The Bernie Fratto Show talks NFL, Jimmy Butler, College Football Playoff, and More!

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we are just eleven hours away from the resumption of
Week eighteen and setting the stage for what should be
a pretty interesting playoff tournament, the final field somewhat got

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a little bit more crystal clear today Saturday, although not
one hundred percent, because if you're a Cincinnati Bengals fan,
or an observer, or a player or coach, you will
be watching the scoreboards Sunday because you're gonna need Denver

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and Miami to both lose. So Cincinnati, who finishes this
season at nine to eight, that would then give them
the seventh and final playoff seed in the AFC. And
I know there's this group think echo chamber narrative. No
one wants to play Cincinnati. Who wants to play Cincinnati. Okay,

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you all can just pull yourself a big old glasses.
Shut up, Juice, and I say that just in fun,
and Jess, just everybody calm down. It's only sports talk here.
But I love Joe Burrow and I love what the
offense does in spurts. They're the reason they're in the
position they're in, all right. Although I'll give them credit.
The Bengals did their part to stay in the playoff conversation.

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It was, in fact, they must win game. Why was
it a must win game? If they lost, they're done.
But they're still alive. They're hanging out and they did
their part, all right. But here's the thing. Despite being
in control for most of the game Saturday, I saw
multiple missed opportunities which buttoned up teams don't do, and

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that forced the Bengals to finally protect and really hang
on to for dear life, a close lead in the
fourth quarter, and Pittsburgh's just a hot mess right now.
Fourth loss in a row, Receivers dropping passes right and left.
They don't have the edge they once had. But again,
Cincinnati did enough to win, actually their fifth straight game

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to close out the regular season. They were playing a
team Saturday. The Steelers ten and seven. They're already in
the playoffs, and I gotta tell you you're heading into
the playoffs losing four in a row. That's bad for him,
That leaves a lot to be desired, and they'll be
the fifth or sixth seed in the AFC, depending on
whether or not Chargers win Sunday. So buckle up. It's

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not going to be a fun eighteen hours for the
Cincinnati Bengals. They're going to have to stress out about
some other results Sunday, while you better to look inward
and ponder the mischances to win earlier in the season.
But if you're a glass half full person, you say
to yourself, at least the Bengals are in a situation

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that didn't seem likely or certainly possible, maybe even certainly
not probable, maybe not even possible. Back around December first,
what did we learn about the Bengals that we probably
already know. Joe Burrow when the situation de mans greatness,
the dude is simply great. When the season is on

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the line, he made sure he is there, present, available,
making plays when the team needs him most. He took
a brutally hard sack of the third quarter, he was
lying on the ground. I didn't know if he hit
his hat on the ground or someone landing on him.
He got about five hundred and eighty pounds of humanity

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that landed on him, and that in theory, could have
been a penalty. But after an examination, walks out of
the tent, puts a black glove on his throwing hand,
salutes Michael Jackson, picks up his tablet. In the next series,
he's throwing dimes to Jamar Chase and Tanner Hudson. That
all of a sudden increased Cincinnati's league to nineteen seven.

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Joel Burrow is the reason that Cincinnati is still in
the conversation And could Denver lose to Kansas City Sunday,
Sure they could, And could Miami lose absolutely. Frankly, I'm
kind of hoping that happens now because I'm willing to
admit I'm wrong. And somehow Cincinnati gets into these playoffs
and makes some noise. I bet they're gonna get in

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and they're gonna get boat raced. Maybe not boat race.
Someone's gonna ride him like a stick horse, because the
peccadillos and sloppiness that's frankly shown up. With this team
and lack of understanding and situational football and players that
make stupid mistakes, it's going to show up in the playoffs.
Could I be wrong? Sure, But here's the deal. The

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Bengals had a chance to put the Steelers away early,
multiple deep trips into Pittsburgh territory, and the Bengals didn't capitalize.
They scored on one of their first three red zone appearances.
On the two drives installed and resulted in field goals.
Cincinnati got inside Pittsburgh's ten yard line that allowed the
Steelers to hang around despite an incredible offensive showing incredibly terrible, bad,

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lackluster offensive showing by the Steelers. And remember the last
time the Bengals played the Steelers, Cincinnati's defense was embarrassed.
We'll give them some credit today, but maybe a lot
can change in five weeks. Five weeks ago, the Bengals
gave up five hundred and twenty yards in that meeting.
Cincinnati's defense was significantly better Saturday than only allowed one

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hundred and ninety three total yards into the first three quarters.
The Bengals only had allowed ninety one yards thirty three
behind the passing yard of Russell Wilson. I'm not so
sure if that speaks to Cincinnati's sudden defensive prowess they
were lucky you escaped Denver last week, or perhaps Pittsburgh
now just simply looks like the proverbial drunk crossing the

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icy street. The Steelers trailed by two minutes with two
minutes to play, and the Pittsburgh faithful, all dressed in
black and gold. All of a sudden, here it comes,
channeling the Detroit Red Wings, steamstrong, don't stop believing, And
it was almost like this stadium anthem, and you say
to yourself, Okay, I don't have any skin in the

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game here. I couldn't care Luke less who wins. But
I'm kind of thinking this is a Hollywood inning. Russell
Wilson drives him down the field, and after three and
a half more bun quarters the Steelers show signs of life,
Cincinnati lets him back in the game. Yes, the Bengals
are motivated, they're fighting for their life to clap you know,

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dooyd playoff elimination. But maybe they're just not that good.
They're sure as hell nowhere near as good as they
were three years ago. With that Lou Anarumo defense. They
had guys like Jesse Bates. Then they got some playmakers
like Trey Hendrickson, and they have their moments. But when
Russell Wilson's fourth down pass attempt went off the fingertips

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of Pat Firemouth, a ball you should have caught, let's
be honest, and that was one of many drops. He
said to yourself. All right, Cincinnati, you won nine games
at the end of the year. They don't ask Kyle
how many, but you may be in for a reconciliation
if you back you went into the playoffs. The Steelers
now become the third team in NFL history end of

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the playoffs on a four game losing streak. The last team,
of course, a team I covered the nineteen ninety nine
Detroit Lions, the Steelers. There's one adjective described to Steelers
right now, inconsistent period. The offense couldn't sustain any momentum,
and now they have to wait till the outcome of

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Sunday's game as well to find out what their playoff
destination is. I don't think coach Tomlin is very happy
with his team right now. He understands that he's it's
been a sub part a month's He's even used the
term junior of varsity for an offense, for an identity
for a team, and we're going, I mean, we are

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going back to the Franco Harris Rocky Bliar days. Pittsburgh
has always had that identity physicality, bully opponents, beat him
up on the trenches, win the one on one battles,
win the game with the line of scrimmage. When you
watch this Steelers team and their inability to gain one
yard on back to back plays with less than a

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minute remaining in the first half, that's just these are
not to Steelers right now. Despite a week of extra
defensive walkthroughs and conversations about all the Austin coverages that
led to their three you know, they had like three
games and eleven days wipeouts by Kansas City and Baltimore,
the Steelers still struggled to cover their Bengals tight ends.

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Burrow went to their tight ends. I mean they were
wide open, right. Mike Kasicki looks like a Hall of Fame.
He's pretty good, and he catches the ball by the
way and finds the marker and gets first down, doesn't
dance around trying to make hero play sixty eight yards.
All four targets to Drew Sample were caught. And I mean,
I don't know the canner. Hudson can grand him, you know,

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not like I actually know who the hell these guys are.
But the bottom line is at the end of the day,
when they're at the history book, Cincinnati will have one
pitcher will have lost. And now the Bengals scoreboard watch
on Sunday to see if Miami can win. If they
lose and Denver loses to Kansas City, and don't be
surprised if that happens, they're gonna see a good day

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on a Carson Wentz tomorrow. A lot of pressure on Denver.
Denver might win a squeaker and I might lose. Not right,
but it remains to be seen. Do I think both
Miami and Denver will lose? No, I don't. Could I
be wrong, sure, But I'm paid to have opinions, and
that's my opinion. Cincinnati, you only have yourself to look
in the mirror. You may have finished strong with five

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weeks to go, sort of, but frankly, you don't really
deserve to be in the playoffs. We'll see Meanwhile, Baltimore
be Cleveland thirty five to ten. Not much to see here.
Keep moving right along. You have to give it's a
long season. Everybody's already forgotten. I guarantee you've forgotten that

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Baltimore is actually a team that chewed resiliency. They started
out with an own two record, remember that, and then
their offensive line coach, Joe d'ella Sanders died of a
heart attack eleven days before the season opener. Then, entering
week fifteen, think about it, the Ravens trailed Pittsburgh by
two games in the AFC North. With just four week's remaining,

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they had about a twenty seven percent chance of overtaking
this dealer for the division title. But they did. Baltimore
beat the odds by winning its last four games. And
here's where you've got to give them credit. They won
those four games by a total of ninety two points.
I think Baltimore has a culture. Baltimore has a DNA.
Baltimore has the type of physical latitude and belief that

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enabled them to do what they just did. Now, does
that mean I believe they can go into Kansas City
and beat Kansas City. No, I do not, and I've
said it so many times. I'm tired of hearing myself
say it. But there you have it. Pittsburgh and Baltimore
will move on, will find out who they play Sunday.
Cincinnati will lie in wait and they have owing themselves

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to blame for putting themselves in a position whereby they're
going to need help coming up. You know what, you
love me can't leave without them. The physic five. We're
going to talk about what is a going to be
a very eventful Sunday, and of course opportunities with what

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I call situational handicapping, much more so than statistics. Situational handicapping,
because yes, there are opportunities Sunday that you're going to
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Speaker 2 (12:44):
Though. We're back on the Bernie Fratle Show Fox Sports Radio.
Come you live from the Tarret dot Com studios here
in Las Vegas. We are about what ten and a
half hours away from the resumption of week eighteen. It'll
be a very eventful one Sunday, and as always, there
are opportunities for wagering. It's the time of the year

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which I call situational handicapping. No one better to have
on than our guy. You know him, you love me,
can't leave without him. It's time phaes at five, let's
welcome in in faz How you been.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Buddy, I'm good, Bernie. Hey, nothing illustrates the importance of
shopping more than the Cincinnati Bengal game, where if you
bet that game and you were an avid shopper, didn't
matter who you bet on, you won. With the Bengals
winning exactly on the number.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
By two tonight well, and interestingly enough, I believe the
sendoff line was three, and I said, wow, you are
really going to pay a Bengals tax I grabbed the
three five days ago, be given Tomlins record as a
divisional dog, and I feel like I got a little lucky.
But I just don't think the Bengals are that good. Well,
before we dive into Sunday, what do your takeaway from
Saturday's games, primarily Bengals Steelers.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
There's a lot of plinko in the NFL. I agree
with you that Bengals were the right side. They probably
should have won by six, but so many of these
games come down to one random event, one fumbled punt,
one missed field goal. If you're looking to win wagering
on sports, you're to try to beat the NFL. Sides

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is if your bet fifty thousand game, that's the only
game in town. That's the only place, the only venue
you can bet big on. If you're betting one hundred
and two hundred and twenty fifty game, go ahead and
invest in some sport like college basketball or prop bets
that's much more easy to beat.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Just for the record, I had the Steelers the Bengals
after observing them last week, and Chase Brown and the
ADC they will never get my money the rest of
this year if they if they play beyond this year.
I actually going to dive into this test because there
are a couple of under the radar games on the
board which I'll get to. But we both know that

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the Bengals will be watching the Dolphins game against the Jets.
Dolphins laying a pretty healthy number thoughts on that game.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
You know, it's very difficult for me when you've got
games with backup quarterbacks and just hell and the Jets.
Who knows what the what the Jets mindset is? Latest
number is? You know the Jets are actually the one
point favorite?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Who the heck are the Jets though? To be laying?
I know it's only for Miami, you know, at Bernie,
I could only look towards the Dolphins. I think the
Jets have checked out and you know this whole you
know where we're If Aaron Rodgers wants to play next year,
who is going to pay this guy more than that
a third string quarterback? I mean, he's a cancer in

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the locker room. This's got to be his last game.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, Miami has got all the motivation they have to win,
and they of course need the Broncos to lose, which
I could, which I do think it happens. Is again,
for the record, the minute I saw am you read
getting ten and a half last week, I grabbed it
before they changed their mind and somewhat surprisingly to me,

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it's gone to eleven. And I don't like I love
the Chiefs in this spot but let's hear what you
have to say.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
You know, there's a sneaky handicap here. So the first
level handicap is the Chiefs want to lose. Why because
they want Denver in the playoff, not Burrowhead and the
Bengals they can give Kansas City trouble. I'm going to
come over the top and say, but wait, you know
it's they're not gonna have to. The Bengals aren't gonna
be playing Kansas City in a Round one. The Bengals, if

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they somehow stole their way in, they'd be playing Buffalo.
And so obviously I'd rather play the Bengals than Buffalo.
So I'd make the case Kansas City should actually they
have an incentive to win this game if it's close.
I think eleven's too much.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I agree, yeah, And you knows there's this missing normalere
they're just forty six guys, and they say, well, you know,
they're not going to play a lot of st but
there are a lot of stars that will play. And
Carson Wentz has won a game or two in this league.
And it's not like preseason football where they don't play
their starters. And the guys that are playing are going
to be working at Naple Auto Parts next month. These

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are real NFL players, So just something to watch. I
much mouth my tongue. Atlanta is the team laying a
healthy number seven and a half against Carolina. Now they
need to win and they need Tampa Bay to lose.
Not a game I'm involved in. Do you find any
value there anywhere? I do.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
I just bet Carolina plus eight, and I know it's
hard to bet Carolina, but you know, Atlanta, They're in
a precarious situation. They're going to be spending half their
time looking up to the scoreboard and getting discouraged when
they see the Bucks putting up touchdown after touchdown against
what's left of the Inks. And because of that, there
is no way that I would trust the Falcons to

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be at full strength, and they're getting priced with attacks
on top of it because of the must win. Don't
like teams like five hundred teams and must win situations
that are close to drawing dead basically or will be
by half time. I look to Carolina, all.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Right, So Tampa Bay, I do agree. I'd be beyond
shocked if New Orleans stole that game because frankly, the Bucks.
So if you've watched them on tape. They look like
a runaway freight train, and they can clinch you at
the NFC South Sunday for the fourth straight year. But
you're paying one hell of attacks. I just simply refuse
to lay fourteen points in an NFL game. Your thoughts, Yes.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
I played Tampa Bay first half. I'm eighty dollars.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Fine.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
I laid my seven first half and my seven and
a half. It's long gone and now it's eight and
a half or nine, And that's the attacks are the
problem of gambling on Saturday night. It's probably just going
to go higher. Tampa is likely to get the ball first.
They've been taking the ball first, and they've been kicking
butts in the first half. I will say this, Mike
Evans all kinds of incentives to get the eighty five yards.

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His number now is one to one and a half.
Tampa Bay's number one wide receiver. If it's a blowout,
the second Evans gets the ninety, he's coming out of
the game. I would look under at Evans at one
hundred or higher for his reception yards.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
I want to gravitate to your thought. It's a strategy
that I've heard more than one handicapper talk about in
week eighteen. If you're looking at, for instance, Green Bay
Chicago Green Bay, I believe the line is nine and
a half, but I believe the first half line is
six six and a half. Is that sound about right? Fast?

Speaker 4 (19:29):
It was right, it's seven, now seven, it's got up
to seven.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
It's not a game I'm involved in it all. They've
already got their playoff berth, but I would expect them
to give an effort in the first half. Is that
a strategy you might employ with Green Bay in Chicago?
Firing on green Bay in the first half. It's a
game they probably win by ten, but you're safer in

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the first half if they jump out. We all know
how bad Caleb is in the first half. Anyway, I'm
getting too long with you your thoughts on that game.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
You're spot on. I gave my clients two plays midweek.
Tampa Bay first half mine seven and a half, green
Bay first half minus six and a half. Both have
moved both teams. We have to worry they're going to
take their foot off the gas light, you know, because
they want to keep everyone healthy for next week. Both
teams have been crushing it in the first half. Both
teams when they win the coin toss of late have
been taking the ball. Their opponents always defer, so we

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get the ball. We get a motivated teams on both
the Beyapigs here strike first, strike hard, no mercy first
half on both of them. But again they were much
much much better to bet them on Wednesday than now.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Somewhat under the game radar. Game that's caught my attention.
You've got the Rams catching seven at home. They're going
to start Jimmy G. So this gives you an opportunity
to say Jimmy G. But they're not going to start
their receivers. Seattle is done and the Rams, you know,
to maintain their three c they need to win, but
they need the Bucks to loose to Orleans. So I

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hate to say this. I won't I refuse to bet
the game, but I honestly feel like if a gun
to my head was I'd be more inclined to lay
to seven with Seattle. Then take to seven. Your thoughts,
I can't do it. I'm not hear yet.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah, I hear you. Because McVeigh has mailed in all
these preseason games on top of it is no problem
with getting getting smacked around in a meaningless game. Hey,
one thing that's interesting. One of the incentives you and
Smith has a bunch of incentives.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
He can make too many six million dollars worth of
vincentas faz.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
And you know, one of the weird incentives is he
needs to throw like sixty nine point eight percent pass
completion rate, and he's just barely above that. So I
think one of the best prop bets Bernie is the
second level thinking the running back chardinay his catches to
go over two and a half catches. If I'm GINO,
all I'm doing is dinking and Duncan and Duncan and

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dincin and completing my first ten passes. And that means
I'm probably noting airing it out forty yards down the
field at might.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Now, yeah, listen, you're good at that stuff. I'm just
not good at the uh, you know, the shooting babies
at the moon thoughts. Because it's all theoretical, and your
theory might end up being spot on. You just don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Oh, I actually think I'm going to say, you know what,
if Bernie Prout is going to get two million dollars
if he completes sixty five percent of his passes. You
are not throwing bombs and hail Mary's. You are throwing
a little shovel.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
But Gino doesn't call the place.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
I don't care call some places. I want my two million.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
All right, No no argument, no, no no argument. I
think your your theory has merit. It's just you. We
find our lane in this business. And you know my
position on profs. But but I understand certainly you're you're employing,
You're employing. You know logical reasoning, deductive reasoning here and

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it makes perfect sense. Again, I'm somewhat conflicted on but
I can only look to the home favorite Arizona lay
in four and a half. I feel like San Franz
spent broke, got their golf clubs packed. Meanwhile, Arizona, you know,
has a little spunk at them. I like their coach,
Jonathan Gannon, and he's the type of guy I think

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they can look at his room and say, I want
an effort today. You're all going to be on film
and where evaluation process begins. I feel like and the
line opened at one, I believe, and went to what
four and a half? Brock Party's not going to play,
by the way, you know that, ysh, go ahead, FANZ.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Yeah, I think your spot on. You know, I can
still lay MIAs two ten and doesn't feel.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Like yeah money line, Yeah right.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
The Niners went all in to win that game against Detroit,
played very well. Now they got a short week, they're
Super Bowl hangover. It just wasn't there for them. But
just I could see them. They're certainly not going to
just mail the game, and I think Arizona wants to
finish on a positive note. In a year they could
have made the playoffs. They were good enough, just didn't

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all right for them. Arizona wins the game, and that
means you know what. I know, it's expensive delay minus
two ten and some places like minus two thirty don't
do that. But I mean you can get minus two
ten whatch you can out there at several places. I'd
play the money line. I think they win by three
or seven.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
All right, So this one's interesting. The Chargers are not
laying seven against the Raiders. Of course. The game's played
here in Vegas about fourteen hours from now. This is
what people need to pay attention to. We already know
that Jim Harbough'll punched his ticket to the playoffs after
they beat the Patriots last week. But it's about seeding now.

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The Chargers can secure the number five seed by beating
the Raiders because the Steelers already lost to the Bengals.
Your thoughts, I feel like you get more. I think
you get an effort out of the Chargers. The question
is can the Raiders hang that number?

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Yeah? I have chargers fully motivated. I make the line
point seven to five, and the current line is indeed
minus six point seventy five. What the heck does that mean? Well,
of course, the Chargers are minus six and a half
in some spots, minus seven in some other spots. It's
a big deal. The Chargers want the five seed because
they'll be favored against Houston next week and they'll be

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a big underdog if they follow the number six. So
because of that, they absolutely want this game. But you
know it's all priced in. I will say this, the
Chargers lost this game against the Raiders last year in
Vegas when they quit on their coach and they lost
one was sixty three to twenty or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
That's right, that's good.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Yeah, And so because of that, they want to they
want to wash away that bad taste when they came
to Vegas last year, all lean Chargers.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, I think I think you get an effort. The
question is did they cover the seven, which I think
is entirely possible because their defense will travel. And I
think the Raiders have won two in a row, but
it's been a little it's been a little slooky, all right,
this is an under radar, under the radar game, Faz.
I genuinely like the Eagles lay in a nice, short,
comfy number two and a half at home against the

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New York Giants. I feel like Philadelphia wins that game
by a touchdown. I understand that Saquon Barkley is not
going to play, but the Giants are an absolute train wreck,
and I think you'll get enough out of Philadelphia to
win that game by boarding the field goal. I feel
like it's actually a twenty to fourteen tech game. Your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
The problem is, I have no idea how good Philly's
third string quarterback is.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
In fact, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
If it's McKee. I don't know his first name. I
think he went to Stransford, Bernie. I don't know about
I can't do it, I don't I'm.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Just I'm flying at the Giants.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
The he played he played the Eagles the absolutely it's
such a small data sample point and you know the Giants.
It's interesting, how the heck did the Giant play so
well against the Colts? Was that their last hurrah? Or
does it show that they haven't quit? I don't know, Bernie,
I got.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
You got guys on film. These guys, they're the players,
are going to give an effort. It's their job. They're
on film. Look, you know I covered the Lions for
ten years and the last year was oh eight, Rod
Marinelli's infamous oh and sixteen team. He only said one
thing all year that really stuck, and I thought was intelligent.
He said, one hundred percent of what you do is

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observed one hundred percent of the time by somebody, and
it's usually on film. In the National Football League, if
you want to keep working in this league, they may
be here next year, it may be somewhere else next year.
You're going to give an effort. That's why you see
these things happen. I can promise you that the you know,
the nickelback for the New York Giants could give a
Flying Horses Pat two if they have the number one

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draft choice. They may be drafting to take his job job. Ye. Yeah,
So it's just that the Giants are so bad, and
I don't think. I just feel Nick Siriani doesn't feel
like heading into the playoffs with a loss. And there
I go, practicing my amateur psychology again. But that's a
nice cozy line. And I just can't see the Giants

(28:09):
winning that game out right right.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
I could see getting behind the Eagles first half, especially
when I'm I'm worried about you know, how much of
an effort the Eagles are going to give the entire game.
But you know, if they are good, if anyone has
like a little ingrown toenail and then and the like
and needs to sit, they're more likely to sit in
the second half. Hey, by the way, when you cover

(28:32):
the lines, they have to ask you Vegas today, you're
familiar with that publication here in Vegas. I'm I correct.
They used to be weekly, and so I still remember
in that seventeen line. I think it was a backup
running back case on they said when the Lions lost
their twelve straight game, they said, in those case ons
go rolling along.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
I do, I do. I also remember the gym Rome
watch and rooting for the Lions nationally to lose their
week and of course, the most infamous game, the legendary
Dan Orlovsky who stepped out of the end zone. I
believe it was Week four against the Minnesota Vikings, and
that so he gave the Vikings his safety. Do you

(29:13):
remember what the score was the day? The final score
was that day, fens, I do not. It was twelve
ten Vikings. Good night falls, thank you for thanks.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Oh my goodness. I wonder if you know if a
team goes o win seventeen, if the Lions like the
Dolphins and Zonkin company, we'll get together and pop champagne
corks to celebrate someone being worse.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Well, uh, why not? They got nothing better to do.
But there is one other quick sidebar to that game.
Orlowski didn't start. He came in off the bench and
the Lions are done, like on their own half yard line.
Orlosky's under center and he's barking out signals. All of
a sudden, there's confusion and consternation and bark and Orlosky

(29:51):
costs time out.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
And he goes, sure, you don't want to lose a
quarter of a yard for the penalty.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Right, Well, he comes back out on the field in
the shotgun, and I'm like, wait a minute. I look
at Vennis fifty and who's sitting next to me in
my broadcast partner. I'm like, okay, wait a minute. So
and sure enough her rolls right and runs out of
the end zone. And we're still talking about it sixteen
years later. And you know what they're going to be
talking about at sixteen years from now. That's just the

(30:17):
way that season rolled. All right. A couple other games
and then I'll get to the doozy the nighttime game.
Do you have any interest in Colts Jaguars? The Jaguars
are infamous for like being one in eighteen against straight
up and against the spread in their last nineteen final

(30:39):
games of the year, and I think you're going to
get a pissed off Colts team even though they lost
last week. The ownership has kind of put everybody on notice.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
And all the money's on the Jaguars. With this line
down to three and that's minus three, I could only
look to the Colts three three point two five lean
Colts million percent.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I did to Colts win by ten. And by the way,
if if all the money's on the Jaguars. Well, then
I want to be on the side of the book
when when the balls in the air, as simple as that,
although I can't be because I'm not involved in that game.
Let's get to the most important game on the board, Fez,
there are some very inconvenient truths about the Detroit Lions
in the last five weeks. Their defense ranks last or

(31:23):
next to last, and all five major defensive metric categories
passing yards, rushing yards, yards per play, points per game
opponent QBR. This is a good Vikings team, but it's
a you know, one game affair. Again, I cannot lie.
I grabbed the three last Sunday when you know the

(31:45):
sendoff came. So I'm sitting with a three. Most people
I know like the over. I can't touch it. It's
gone from fifty one to fifty six and a half.
Give me your breakdown in this game and what you
expect to happen.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
I expect a very close game. I have these teams
power rated almost equally, Detroit half point better. I can
only give them one and a half for home field,
and the spot favors the Vikings because of the Lions.
You know, Blessed Dan Campbell's heart. It is refreshing to
see him play his hard out on a meaningless game
on Monday night against San fran and he embarrassed the NBA.

(32:20):
I'm gonna get there in a second, but I think
that was a poor decision tactically. Although it was on
it was certainly consistent with his philosophy. But that's going
to hurt them in this game. It's gonna be very
close game. Someone's going to win by field goal, so
I have to take the vikings plus.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Three, so for one it's worth. It was actually more
of a strategic decisions and tactical unplugged in. I was
on the phone most of the day Monday with these
my Detroit peats and real quickly, Dan Campbell was channeling
the two thousand and seven New York Giants when to
a man they voted to try to upset the New

(32:57):
England Patriots even though they couldn't improve their playoff position
and they were getting seven and a half points at
home in almost one to a man. Tom Kauflind admitted
three weeks later, when they got to the Super Bowl
and beat the Patriots, that energized them. He was channeling that,
saying We're not going to play scared. We're not going
to play afraid. Not to lose one last thing, Fez.

(33:17):
We'll make this quick. You saw the Lions surrender four
and seventy five yards to the Niners last week, thirty
four points. Their kicker left seven points on the board
against a broken down six to ten nine Ers team.
How much does that bother you heading into this game
against Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Well, it's not just that game. You know all the
injuries that the Niners have had. I think Giants did
the right thing when they won the Super Bowl a
decade ago. But the Giants had to do that to
build up their confidence. Detroit doesn't need that. They're fourteen
and two. They could have mailed that game and then
they would have been fine confidence wise. I think they
paid the price in this game, and ultimately, I think

(33:56):
if it comes down energy, they could lose by a
point and they would have won by three if they
hadn't done that last week. But I still say this quickly.
They embarrassed the NBA because these NBA players, if they
have anything like they have the flu, they don't play.
They don't play back to back games. And Detroit in
a tough physical game with the season on the line,

(34:17):
injuries matter, and they're already horribly injured. They played everyone.
Screw you, NBA. I'm going to call for a boycott
of the NBA all year long because of Dan Campbell.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Heys, enjoy your sunny Paul. We'll talk to you next week.
Wild Car Weekend.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Thank you, Bernie. Hey, Let's go Houston first half. Pick
them against Tennessee. Houston should play their starters the first half.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Good stuff, keep it locked. I've got some real lions
receipts and some inconvenience truths, inconvenient truths. Heading into Sundy.
You're listening to the Bernie Fratleshow on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
All right, back on the Bernie Frattles Show, Fox Sports Radio.
By the way, coming up in about eleven minutes. Mark
Medina will join us from the in two. A lot
to unpack on the Jimmy Butler thing, among other things.
I know Kawhi made his return tonight. We'll certainly touch
on that. We're gonna go deep into the Jimmy Butler thing.
I've done my homework and we had a couple folks
tweet last night. We're gonna talk about it. I'm gonna

(35:13):
make good on my promise. Okay, we're gonna talk about
this in a big way here coming up in about
ten minutes. All right, Look, I have great affinity for
the Detroit Lions. Cover the team for ten years. It's
a wonderful organization. I know they haven't had the greatest
success on the field. Always when I was there, the president,
Tom lewand Bill Keenest, Look, they were great people. I

(35:36):
have nothing but good things to say. I am genuinely
concerned about the Lions Sunday night, and even if they
win Sunday night. And let me tell you how important
the number one seed is Sunday night the last Just
put this way, the Lions win, they get the number
one seat. They lose, they'll be the number five seat.
Will likely have to travel to Tampa Bay or the

(35:59):
Rams and win three straight road games to get to
the Super Bowl. Here's why the number one seed is
so important. The last fifty number one seeds, twenty six
reached the Super Bowl. It's over half nine won the
Super Bowl lot right, So is this amongst win I
say in quotes, Yeah, because There's only been five teams

(36:21):
in NFL history that have been able to garner three
straight road winds to reach the Super Bowl. The last
one was quarterback by Tom Brady four years ago, and
the one before that was quarterback by Aaron Rodgers. And
it's prime fourteen years ago. And we just talked about
the two thousand and seven New York Giants with Steve

(36:42):
f Ezick. They got hot, Eli Manning went on to
win the Super Bowl. Before that, Ben Roethlisberger Steelers did
it in No.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
Five.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
And then you got to go all the way back
to nineteen eighty five when Ray Berry and the leader
of the Pats and the defense, you know they went
on to lose to the Bears forty six to ten
to the Super were quarterback by Tony Easton. So do
you really like those odds? But here's your concern. Since Thanksgiving,
the Lions defense is ranked lasting points allowed thirty two

(37:11):
points a game, last and yards per play allowed almost
seven yards per play. Last in yards per play through
the air, you last in yards per game allowed three
hundred and one per game. They've allowed nine rushing touchdowns
that ranks the defense last, and their opponent's passer rating,

(37:32):
and this includes guys like Caleb Williams. Their passer rating
is one or nine point seven. That is downright scary,
especially if you have designs in winning a Super Bowl,
and when you've allowed thirty two and a half points
your last six games and the last Super Bowl winner,
the last ten Super Bowl winners have only allowed an
averages sixteen point seven, and there hasn't been a single

(37:55):
Super Bowl winner in the last ten years that have
allowed more than twenty one points per game. We got
a situation on our hands, so I am not making
any bold predictions. I think if the Lions and Vikings
played this game Sunday night ten times, the Lions would
win six, maybe five point five. You get my drift

(38:17):
the slightest margin of error. This is a playoff game.
Sam Darnold's never been in a playoff game to the
best of my knowledge, so it'll be a little different
dynamic and that Detroit crowd will bring it. But that
defense is the defense. The team is depleted. It all
started when Aiden Hutchinson went down. He commanded a double team.
They held it together from there. Alex Angeloni went down

(38:39):
DB's Malcolm Rodriguez at one point. There are eleven Lions
players on IR right now that started at one point
for that defense. So is it too much to overcome
the thought of their dream season is basically been curtailed
by nothing better than bad luck, And so it's a

(39:00):
it's a bitter pill to swallow. You got two fourteen
and two teams, and yet you know you've got a
situation where if the Lions win, they get a week
off to lick their wounds, and then they'll get two
home games. So I can only say that there's a
great concern for Sunday Night. You got to take them
one at a time. Coming up, there should be great
concern for the Miami Heat and Jimmy Butler and pat

(39:21):
Riley because this is really skating off the rails pretty quickly,
and I don't think it's a good look for anybody
coming up. We talked with Mark Madeina and Medina Magic.
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We got so much to get to so little time,
and in fact, that's our cue. It's that time. Mark
Medina Medina Magic joined us every Saturday night at midnight
Pacific time in the Bernie Frattle Show, fifty two weeks
out of the year. And there's always storylines. There are

(40:23):
always headlines, and Mark, I have to begin. I have
to begin. We'll certainly get to Kawhi and other things,
but I have to begin with this Jimmy Butler saga,
which went from zero to one hundred this week. And
here's where I want to start. You've got Pat Riley
and this is not his first barbecue. He had a

(40:44):
situation with Tim Hardaway, Alonzo Morning, Dwayne Wade. He'll let
you go if he doesn't watch you anymore. He even
traded a shack, he traded Sean Marion. So now it's
Jimmy Butler's turn. What was the tipping point where Pat
Riley vowed not to trade Jimmy Butler to a seven
game suspension for contract detrimental to now they're listening to trade.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
Offers well as far as that tipping point that changed
a little bit of their tim was Butler's press post
and press conference after Indiana, where you know, he talked
about that he wanted to feel happy, and he made
it clear who feels happy in Miami off the court,
But when he was asked if he could feel happy
with Miami on the court, he said probably not. There's

(41:28):
obviously a lot of questions just about his overall effort
and attitude. But one thing that I will stress burning
is I'm not surprised about any of this. Even when
the Heat released pat Riley's statement, we have to look
at what he technically said and interpreted accordingly. He said
we are not trading Jimmy Boler, but that only meant

(41:48):
in the present tests that did not wipe out any
scenario that they could trade Jimmy Bowler in the future.
And so what I'm concluding is that this was a
game of chicken for a while while now and the
Heat were seen of Jimmy Butler with the blank and
he certainly has once or twice.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Good point, Mark, And let's get to the second layer, because,
as I tweeted, this has a lot of layers and
we're gonna we're gonna get to all of them. Jimmy
Butler shorts aren't clean either. Come on. Now, Chicago refused
to give Butler a MAX contract and they traded him
to Minnesota. Got a bunch of young players. Then in
Minnesota similar Butler was more similar to the Miami situation.

(42:31):
Butler was unhappy with his contract, requested a trade. But
Butler was only twenty nine. Then they sent him the
Philadelphia for three or four guys Dario Sark I don't
remember the rest. Then after one season in Philadelphia, the
seventy six ers said, we don't think we're gonna pay
Jimmy Butler. We'd rather pay Tobias Harris and Josh Richardson
and Al Horford. So now Butler's on his fourth team

(42:54):
and he wants out there. Okay, man, how much of
this is on Jimmy Butler. Let's maintain an objectivity here.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
Yeah, I mean, he's obviously certainly not blameless, and I
think the thing to add an extra wrinkle with Miami
that's different than previous teams. Some people, including Jimmy Butler,
that are fans of his, would chalk up the previous incidents,
specifically in Minnesota and Philadelphia, as a product of Look,
he was a veteran player that worked really hard, and

(43:24):
he didn't feel like his younger teammates were staying up
with him on that level. Here with the Miami Heat,
they're all about work ethic and being in great shape
and competing and that's up until the season why this
match seemed to be made in heaven. But there was
a lot of things that made a turn for the worst.
He was dealing with some injury issues, you know, during

(43:46):
the playoffs last year, and the Heat aren't necessarily going
to hold that against him. But what they did hold
against Stem and Riley made it clear on the record
was when Jimmy Butler was saying, well, if I it's healthy,
we wouldn't have lost in the playoffs, and he didn't
take high to that. You're either available or not. And
then the other thing is the Miami Heat made it
clear that they have enough concerns about Jimmy Butler's their

(44:08):
ability that they're not going to sign him to an
extension when he was eligible this past summer, and so
a lot of times, even though he's still under contract,
those decisions kind of provide clarity on where either party stands.
And so with that, the attitude's been different with Jimmy Butler,
and now it's just been a lot of different twists

(44:28):
and turns this season with his play and then him
wanting to get a trade.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Toby Mark madeIn and Medina Magic every Saturday night, twelve
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Sports Radio insider Guru. All Right, so today, right now,
we are now officially on January fifth, Mark, and the
suspension concludes two weeks from tonight January nineteenth, when the

(44:53):
Heat will play the Spurs. Do you believe that Butler
will be traded by then, and if not, do you
believe the Heat might even consider extending his suspension.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
Yeah, there's a lot of things unpacked here because I
think that we're going to expect the NBA the players
union to file a grievance. They've all already made it
clear they don't agree with this, you know, from a
union standpoint, So there's going to be some back and
forth there but I think that the suspension will still hold.
I don't think it goes past seven games. But hear

(45:26):
me out, Bernie. Even though clearly the Heat have changed
their mind about Jimmy Butler about we're not trading him,
we also have to keep in mind what exactly have
they said in the latest statement. They didn't say we're
now trading Jimmy Boler. They just said we're listening to
all offers. They're going to listen to offers, but gauging
the marketplace, I don't think that there is an offer

(45:49):
that a team is going to be willing to give
up that satisfies what Miami is looking for. When you
look at some of the natural fits, like you know,
the Golden State Warriors or the Loss Angels, Lakers, or
the Denver Nuggets, they would all love to have Jimmy Butler,
But what are they willing to give up to get him.
I don't think that any of these teams want to

(46:10):
stirp away some of their roster depths, and I think
at Barness to Miami, they're not really attracted to what
any of those teams have to offer, and will conclude
that even a Jimmy Butler that is not playing his
best basketball and clearly, as upset with the organization, is
much better off stayin put than trading him away for

(46:31):
a bunch of role players. And so I want to
be surprised Berning, even with all this messiness going back
and forth, and he's still with the Miami Heat for
the rest of the season. And that's the ultimate game
of chicken, because I think Miami essentially is daring Jimmy
Butler to continue this conduct through the rest of the season,

(46:51):
compromising the team's playoff potential, and then entering free agency
as a player that might not have as much market
value as you once would. And I think from Miami standpoint,
they're looking at two ways. One, the best case scenario
is they're all able to reconcile enough for him to
finish out the season, still play at a high level,

(47:12):
and he leaves as a free agent, but they now
have financial flexibility to work with as opposed to trading
him for players they may not really won in the
first place.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Well, Mark, we're totally on the stand page two things.
First of all, I know the legal file aggrievance. They
already issued a statement of these players association, but that
you know, well, that could take a year to resolve.
So that's a big nothing to me. And I know
he's going to lose two and a half million dollars
in salary. But the larger issue, which you teased just now,

(47:45):
so Butler has already issued a preferred list. He likes Dallas,
he likes Goold and State who you mentioned, he likes
the Phoenix Suns. But if you really look at this
from the inside, each one of those rosters that have
to trade three or four players to make this happen,
Potentially the Sons would have to have Bradley be a
wave as no trade clause. And oh, by the way,
given all the complications in the CBA, it's my understanding

(48:09):
that teams are not necessarily allowed to take back more
salary in a trade. So that makes this deal, I believe,
almost impossible. To your point, I don't think he's going
to get traded.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
Yeah, I mean, think about the inverse of how Miami
handled the negotiations to get Damian Lillard before last season.
It was the idea that they would have to give
up a lot of pieces to get a star player.
They didn't want to do that either, and so I
think that they're operating on both ends of the spectrum.
If they're going to trade a star player, they expect

(48:43):
a massive haul in return. If they're going to trade
for a star player, they're still going to want to
keep most of their depth. And so even though these
are clearly two distinct different trade possibilities, that common denominator
is the Miami heat. They don't believe in rebuilds. When
they're making a deal, they want to still make sure
their employoff to tension, and they'll very much value maximizing

(49:07):
connuity more than anything else. And the last thing is
they're always going to do what they feel is best
for the organization, as opposed to feeling like they have
to do something because their star players want them to
do it.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Last thing on this subject, and we'll move on. How
much can you ascribe as a template the way the
Paul George situation played out last year with the Clippers
and extrapolate to the way we expect a Jimmy Butler
thing to play out. Secondly, as you know, this CBA

(49:44):
is far more restrictive. It's almost it's as close to
a hard cap as the NBA has ever had, which
makes deals like this difficult. And the third thing, and
this is the one mark maybe you should have asked first.
I don't the heat, to the best of my knowledge,
is still consider are one of the you know, better
desirable destinations in the NBA. So why why did this

(50:06):
goes so sour with Jimmy Butler?

Speaker 5 (50:10):
Well, the answer to that first part of why I
went so sours, I think it was the contract extension negotiation.
You know, obviously Jimmy's Butler is a great competitor, but
like with any star, he expects to be paid accordingly.
When that doesn't happen, you know, they tend to be different.
I think that's really the crux of it. If he

(50:30):
would sign to an extension, there won't be any complaint
about his role or his comfort level with the team.
But I will push back, Yes, your point about the
hard cap and the spending restrictions that has hit all teams,
So that's part of the equation here. But I think
that's this is much georgeous situation last season because for

(50:52):
all the shortcomings that Paul George has had with his
health and his play, he is never he was never
demonstrative with the Clippers. Even with him leaving, he made
it clear that he owed he felt like he had
a lot of respect and gratitude to Lawrence Frank, the
president basketball operations, and Steve balmer Donor. He just felt, well,

(51:14):
the Philadelphia seventy six ers are off of me substantially
more money, and I'm going to make a business decision.
And so I think that is a clear contrast with
how Jimmy Puller is reacting.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
I'm glad you made that distinction because I was alluding
to mechanically how this will play out, not necessarily, not
necessarily the tenor or the attitude or the yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
But I will with that, I think you're onto something
about our players in their health. The best ability is availability,
as Bill Parcells famously said, And so with the Clippers, yes,
part of the equation was second Apron concerns, but the
other equation was health. And look, they signed Kawhi Leonard
to an extension, but despite his injury, his true but

(52:00):
I think they've made the calculation well, Kawhi Leonard, when available,
is still a much better basketball player than Paul George.
So if we're going to have to choose one or
the other, they'll go with Kawap. But you know, it
sets these things up or teams that have to make
very tough decisions that they probably wouldn't have made if
it wasn't for you know, the second Aprin salary cap

(52:21):
concerns that you outlined.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Just take ten seconds to respond to a statement that
one of my Twitter followers just sent. He says, Butler
ops in and ends up like John wall I don't
think he means ops out and dude is out of touch.
Respond to that.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
Yeah, I mean if he becomes a free agent this
summer and things stay status quo, that very well could
be the case. Now, knowing how Jimmy Bowler is, he
could dramatically change his fortune with just his play, and
all of a sudden, his value as a free agent
will be high, including interest with the Heat. So I

(52:59):
think again, and the Heat are gonna canvass the landscape.
They'll take a lot of calls, and I'm sure they'll
receive a lot of calls, and after the dust settles
lead into the trade deadline of February sixth, I truly
believe they'll make a calculation. You know what, We're just
gonna keep Jimmy Bowler on the team and foul plays
out the rest of the season, and if he wants
to leave, he can do so as a free agent

(53:19):
in the summer.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
And of course the irony. I believe. Jimmy Butler issued
his statement prior to the season saying, no Shenanigans this year.
Do you remember that?

Speaker 5 (53:31):
It's the old thing? Watch what they do now? What
they said?

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yeah, I get I get some cookies out of Petty
Cash for remembering that one. All right, you were there tonight.
Kawhi Leonard not bad, twelve points, hid a couple of threes, boy,
I'll tell you honestly, and the Clippers look pretty good.
This is not a bad starting lineup. If Kawhi Leonard's healthy,

(53:55):
with Zoo Backhard and Poll and Chris Dunn and Nicholas
Patum coming off the bench and Derek Jones coming off
to not bad, could this team make some noise in
my nuts?

Speaker 5 (54:06):
No, they very well could be. Think about this, Bernie.
There's seventh in the West right now, so at the
season end of the day, they would be in the
play tournament. But they're only two and a half games
behind Houston Memphis for second and third in the West,
and now they have Kawhi Leonard back. Now, just because
Kawhi Leonard's back doesn't mean all's well, that ends well,

(54:26):
because Kawhi has an injury history as we all know
right now, tylu And I asked him how many games
or how long has he in the then he'll be
on a miss restriction because he only played nineteen minutes today.
He said he doesn't know. It's about sure the swelling's down,
So this is going to be a day to day process.
And even when he gets out of them and in

(54:48):
restrictions and starts playing, you know, the thirty minutes plus range.
Kawhi Leonard made it clear when I asked what he
has to do to better his odds at staying healthy
the rest of the seas in this he has to
keep the same routine that he was doing during his
injury to maximize those chances. And what does that look like, Well,

(55:09):
only Kawi truly knows because he doesn't share all his
details about his regiment, But roughly speaking, it's about doing
a lot of postgame recovery on off days, doing a
lot of things in the weight room, in the trainer's room.
So really expect this to play out the rest of
the season. But I get to your point, if all
things are reasonably status quo. With Kawhi Leonard and the

(55:31):
depth of Clippers have, they very well could be one
of these screw contenders in the West.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Why did they need to play in more than twenty
minutes for the entire season? They literally go ten deep
with Kevin Porter and Mere Coffee and Derek Jones, they
literally go ten deep. Why not just manage his minutes
and have him there. He doesn't need to play thirty
minutes to be effected.

Speaker 5 (55:54):
Yeah, well, look, we'll see how this plays out. They
did play the Atlanta Hawks today and you know, they're
a team that made some noise in the NBA Cup,
but they're not the best of the best, so they
do have a lot of depth. But I think that
because of this min in restruction, at least in the
short term, this will give them clarity on how could
is the Clippers with at least just a limited why

(56:16):
Leonard and leaning on that depth.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
But first half points is pretty good, Bud.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
Yeah, And in an ideal world though, fast forward the
playoffs and they're going to make a run at it.
Kawhi is going to have to get the thirty vn range.
But yeah, to your point, at least in the short term.
They have to do this because of his health, but
you know, they very well could hold the fork down.
I think it's a testament that even without Kawhi Leonard
playing the first thirty four games, they were seven in

(56:42):
the West. It has a lot to do with James
Harden encouraging his play, you know, kind of embodying that
number one option that he was doing in Houston. But
unlike in Houston, the team is really reliant on ball movement.
So you have guys like Norman Pale and a Beata
Zoobot and a Mere Coffee and Terrence Mann, you know,
scoring on a pretty consistent basis.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Talking about Mark Medina Medina Magic every Saturday night, twelve
midnight on the Bernie Frattle Show, Pacific time. All right,
I want to talk about Lebron before I bash him
for another supercilious statement. We have to be honest. His
Jersey sales are still strong, his TV ratings are still strong,
He's opposing ticket sales when he plays road games are

(57:28):
still strong. But when he comes out and says I
could play five to seven more years, that tells me
he actually wants to play five to seven more years.
Why don't you just unpack what I said and take
it anywhere you want to take it.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
Well, Bernie, this is what sports talk ray is all about.
You agree on something, you disagree on other things. Here,
I'm going to disagree because I think the context of what.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
He was saying.

Speaker 5 (57:56):
The heir she feels like he could but only but
he's not going to do that because you will only
play if he feels like he's playing up with standards. Now,
what are those standards? He's got to be playing at
all star caliber levels. I think he was saying. If
it was about just the saying the rest of his
career and still being able to be good enough to

(58:16):
be part of the rotation, it could be five to
seven years. But because it's about still being one of
the elite players in the league, being the best player
on the team, it's going to be a lot shorter.
So he hasn't said when that final season is, but
you know, you look at his contract. He can opt
out of his contract this summer, and I think what's
going to happen is either next season or the following

(58:39):
season will be the final year. Now he's made a
clear Quakers success isn't necessarily the only indicator because he's
already won four championships. But I want to be surprised
part of the variable and how competitive can this team
truly be, because even though his resume is enough to
be at first bound hold, having that chance to get

(59:02):
a fifth ring is pretty important.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
I did not hear this come out of his mouth,
but I was told from someone I trust that Lebron
actually said the other night admitted that he believes Jordan
is actually the greatest of all time. Did that come
out of his mouth?

Speaker 5 (59:17):
I think he back and forth. He was talking about
because the context that he surpassed Michael Jordan for most
thirty point games in his career. He was talking about
how it's an honor to, you know, be part of
the comparisons on who's better who's not. He didn't say
he's better or or MJ is better. It was more

(59:39):
about the conversation. What was funny was Anthony Davis Pokes
had some fun at his teammates expense, saying, well, it
took Lebron seven more seasons to get more thirty point
games than m J. So there's always going to be
the never ending debate on you know, do your reward
Lebron for his longevity with play more years. You know,
Michael Jordan didn't play as many years, but he came

(01:00:00):
out of retirement twice. Uh. And you know, maybe that
benefits for in the restart button a little bit, but uh,
you know, the reality is both players have a case
of their own to be the goat, and that's what
sports bars are for for fans to discuss that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Yeah, it's a it's you know, a mindless exercise. I
think unless you saw a magic court side, which I did,
unless you saw Jordan courtside, which I did and Lebron courtside,
I think people have to recuse themselves. And people know
where I weigh in on this, and yeah, I realized
Lebron scored more points than anybody in the universe and

(01:00:39):
he reminds us of that. But yeah, we'll save that
for a different day. People know where I stand. I
want to let's close by giving Wemby his flowers and
I'll tell you why, because not only is Victor Wemba
Yama continuing to put up a stellar effort on a
nightly basis, the Spurs are actually winning now, Okay, so

(01:01:03):
this is an organization. They're above five hundred. They're starting
to find their way and they could find their way
into the playing tournament. It feels like Wemby doesn't get
enough respect from the way I see it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
Yeah, I agree clearly, this whole idea that in his
rookie season, oh well, Victor one Beanalma doesn't impact winning enough.
I think what it really showed was he played with
a lot of teammates that just weren't good. And now
this team has more veteran leadership around him, most notably
with Chris Paul and Harrison Barnes and Victor one Beanyama
has taking his game to another level. And I know

(01:01:41):
to begin the season there's some short term growing pains
about his three point shooting and to what extent he
relies on that. But it's the modern MBA, the idea
that a big guy just has to be this traditional
post up big that's in the past now, and so
Victor has shown that he can literally do it all
on both ends of the floor. And I think the

(01:02:03):
other thing that's to his advantage that we've already seen
is he's a hell of a worker. He's a student
of the game, and he's really smart. You combine all
those things, and your ceiling gets dramatically bigger as a
young player, because a lot of times young players are
just getting by because of their talent and their athleticism

(01:02:24):
and their and their youth and their ability to recover quickly.
He has all those attributes, but he has the veteran
thinking man's game already as a young player. So with that,
I think you're just going to see dramatic improvements every
single season where it doesn't take long that you know

(01:02:45):
he is in you know, superstar status.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
And again they're they're winning. So that's the ultimate. Of course,
acid tests. Mark great stuff is always I wanted to
go deep into the Jimmy Butler thing. We did. I
think we covered it all, and I think the story
will continue to have more legs and I'll end at
the same land and every week, can't wait to see
what the twenty four to seven news cycle brings us
for next Saturday night.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
I'm sure we'll talk to me again next switch.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Probably in some former fashion. All right, Mark gets some
rest pal, all right, take care of them. That is
Mark Medina, Medina Magic. And of course you hear him
every Saturday night here on the Bernie Frattle Show at
twelve midnight Pacific. We try to bring in the latest
in the NBA and get down deep, a little bit

(01:03:33):
below the surface and try to, you know, bring it
to you with the journalistic bent as it were. So anyway,
coming up, we got to dive back in the NFL.
We are we are certainly again just hours away from
the resumption of of week eighteen, and we're gonna do

(01:03:56):
a little thing we call record Watch because at there
are a bunch of records. We know that Derek Dickerson
can rest easypal, your record ain't going to be broken.
But Kain's like Jerry Reich, Tory Holt, Aaron Rodgers, Drew
Brees and Moore, they actually have records on the line
that could be broken. Sunday True Story. By the way,

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(01:05:05):
problem the resumption of NFL Week eighteen, which will, of course,
can conclude Game two seventy two. You can't ask for
a more highly contested contest, highly charged with storylines, emotion,
you name it. It's just unreal when you consider that
a team with fourteen wins we'll have to end up

(01:05:27):
being a five seed and Detroit Lions, a team I
know and love and have you know covered for many,
many years. I can't look at this without you know,
some affection and knowing what it will mean to the
city of Detroit for the Lions to pull us off, meaning,
you know, the opportunity to capture once and for all

(01:05:50):
the number one seed, lift their wounds. Rest have to
only win two games. I see that in air quotes,
only to get to the Super Bowl. And then you're
gonna have a tall task from there. This is a team,
it's not one of championships since nineteen fifty seven. They're
one of a couple of franchises along with Cleveland. And
you know, I think Jacksonville couple never been to a

(01:06:12):
Super Bowl. All Right, you get the picture. The historyonics
hyperbole surrounding Sunday Night's game is legitimate. But it's not
just the games on the field with respect to winner
versus loser, who goes home, who gets ready for the playoffs,

(01:06:35):
there are also individual records. Well, Jerry Rice, the legendary
Jerry Rice, who once had eleven consecutive one thousand yard
seasons which concluded in nineteen ninety six. Well, if you
watch Mike Evans and his career has begun with ten
straight one thousand yard seasons. Even Jerry Rice and accomplished that.

(01:07:00):
It took him a couple years to get growing. He
had like nine hundred as a rookie. And this season
Mike Advams, despite missing three games with a hammy, only
needs eighty five yards against the Saints to ty Jerry Rice.
And yes he has the benefit of a seventeenth game,
but he missed three. Another prolific wide receiver, Tory Hole,

(01:07:23):
had sixty seven hundred yards, six seven and eighty four
yards through five seasons, which culminated in two thousand and three,
and despite missing seven games this season, Justin Jefferson smashed
this record by mid season. The NFL's all time leader
in receiving yards per game had ninety seven to one
per game and three hundred and seventy yards one game

(01:07:48):
to play well to catch him, Jamar Chase, we need
to set a single season receiving record yard next season.
So just something to watch now. Before Aaron Rodgers started
doing high in Alaska and going to Egypt and sitting
in the dark rooms and talking incessantly when no one's
asking him, he once had a Pariser rating of one

(01:08:10):
hundred and twenty two point five, the best of all time.
I was back in twenty eleven. Well, Lamar Jackson's current
won twenty one point six is the second best mark ever.
He had a great day Saturday. I have to look
up and see if cumulatively he broke that record. All right,
but that's another record that's teetering. Drew Brees back in

(01:08:35):
twenty eighteen for an entire season This is incredible, all right.
For an entire season, Drew Brees completed seventy four point
four percent of his passes. Now Tua has the third
best of all time at seventy two point nine. He's
not playing Sunday. Baker Mayfield seventy one point seven. It's

(01:08:59):
fifth and he's got a layer game at home. We'll
see what he does. And Jared Goff seventy one point four.
And you expect to track meet Sena nat against Minnesota.
But if they all finished with completion rates of seventy plus,
looks like toolwell, because he's not gonna play, they become
the first trio to do so in a single season. Now,
twenty twenty four quarterbacks cumulatively could also finish with the

(01:09:20):
highest average completion percentage sixty five point three in NFL history. Know,
by the way, as for beating Breeze record, Tua would
have had to play Sunday against the Jets and go
twenty five or twenty five. But he's not gonna do
that because he's missing the game due to his injury.
In twenty twenty, Justin Herbert, who what's not to love

(01:09:44):
about this guy? He checks every box and him and
Harbaugh have been a marriage made in heaven. I told
you last year at this time that Jim Harball had
a man crush on Justin Herbert. I know people say, well,
Harball was interested in the Raiders that I don't check
your sources. I don't know how serious that really was.

(01:10:06):
And even the Bears, and now that wasn't gonna happen
for reasons people don't want to hear about. The Chargers.
Was gonna happen as long as he got paid and
they got paid. And I'm glad Steve Hartman said that
would happen. And let me tell you this is working out.
But Justin Herbert four years ago, through thirty one touchdowns
as a rookie touchdown passes, I don't think it's getting broken.

(01:10:28):
But Jaden Daniels and bow Knicks are both at twenty five.
And this makes it even more impressive because Jaden Daniels
and bow Knicks going into their seventeenth game. Herbert set
this record in fifteen games. Don't think that record is
in any danger unless Jade Daniels throw seven touchdown passes

(01:10:49):
and or bow Knicks does, which ain't gonna happen against
the Chiefs. No, all right. You know you never really
used to hear this. I don't remember it. But now
among receivers there's this thing called the triple Crown. Race
has to do with the number of receptions you have
over the course of a season, the number of yards

(01:11:09):
you accumulate, the number of touchdowns you score. All right,
And since two thousand, only Cooper Cup and Steve Smith
Senior have achieved the triple Crown, which means they led
the league in receptions, yards, and touchdowns in the same season.
It's a virtual lock, beyond a virtual lock, that Jamar

(01:11:35):
Chase will join that group. Even heading into Saturday's game
against the Steelers, Jamar Chase had one hundred and seventeen receptions,
which is nine ahead of brock Bowers, but they had
five hundred more yards. He had over sixteen hundred yards
and sixteen touchdowns against brock Bowers four. But give it

(01:11:55):
up to the rookie brock Bowers one hundred and eight
receptions heading into Sunday eleven hundred and forty four yards,
four touchdowns. Justin Jefferson, who certainly expects to add to
his gaudy total Sunday night. His accumulated one hundred receptions,
fourteen and seventy nine yards. I mean, I guess if
he did something stupid, I had a three hundred yard game,

(01:12:17):
he could steal it from Jamar Chase. I don't expect
that he's only got ten touchdowns. I don't think he's
gonna score eight touchdowns. Miles Garrett had a chance. He
had fourteen plus sacks and four consecutive seasons. You know,
he didn't end great for him on for excuse me
for for Miles Garrett on Saturday. So we're not just watching.

(01:12:42):
We're not just watching, you know, games and outcomes and
who wins and who doesn't win and who goes. We're
gonna watch that next. I'm gonna give you the biggest,
most comprehensive rundown. Right now. The NFL playoff field is
nearly set, but let's look at the playoff scenarios for
each team is still in the hunt and the teams
that have clinched to what's going on. We're going to

(01:13:03):
do that coming up next. No, Bernie Fraddle, We're coming
your line from Las Figas, Fox Sports Radio, Tireck dot
Com Studios. Keep it locked and listening to the Bernie
Fraddle show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, back in
the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Let's dive in
to this whole NFL playoff field. So you know what's
going on. You know, the chiefs of the number one seed,
you'll have to wait for their opponent. They'll play the

(01:13:24):
lowest seeded team a week following weekend, the week of
the of the of the seventeenth. All right, Buffalo, they
visit New England. Doesn't matter what happens. They've already secured
the number two seed. So if Denver wins Sunday, they'll
hold Stenver. If Denver loses in Miami wins, Miami will

(01:13:47):
visit Buffalo. If both Denver and Miami lose, guess what,
the Cincinnati Bengals get their wish. They'll go to Buffalo,
and we'll test that theory about no one wants to
play the Bengals. Ravens, they clinched the AFC North title.
They beat Cleveland. That means to the number three seed.
They're going to host a wild card game against either
the Chargers or the Steelers, depending what happens Sunday. Houston,

(01:14:12):
nothing is on the line here for Houston. Sunday looks
like they'll host either the Steelers or the Chargers during
Wildcard weekend, depending on what happens Sunday. The Steelers have
already lost Chargers, they head into Las Vegas here Sunday.
They'll earn the number five seed. If they win, thanks

(01:14:33):
to Pittsburgh's lost Saturday, that number five seed will earn
them a trip to Houston to face the Texans. So
they beat the Raiders, they go place the Texans. The
Chargers will fall to the number six seed if they
lose to the Raiders, that would earn them a trip
to Baltimore. So, as you heard me and Peasig talking,
the Chargers have been sent to win this game. I
think they'd rather go to Houston, with all due respect

(01:14:55):
than Baltimore Steelers. They've clinched the playoff berth, but they
fail to clinch the five seed lost to the Bengals Saturday.
Actually there be a five or six seed, which means
they'll either visit Houston if the Chargers lose to the
Raiders or the Ravens if the Chargers beat the Raiders.
I don't believe in this whole Bengal card nonsense, but
if you have a bengo card, and by the way,
I don't know where you even buy one or what

(01:15:15):
they look like. You can probably put on your Bengo card.
It feels like Pittsburgh will be heading to Baltimore Denver.
You win against Kansas City, you're in. You're eliminated. If
you lose to the Chiefs. Don't think it can't happen. Miami,
they also want that last wildcard spot. They face the
Jets on the road. They must win and get outside assistance.

(01:15:38):
They'd face the Buffalo Bills if they get that final
postseason bid. As I just said, they have to win
and they have Denver to lose the Bengals. They've got
rope burns from the rosary already and we're just a
few hours into this. They got the hardest chance of
security in the playoff bed. They need both Miami and
Denver to lose Sunday. If that happens, they'll head the Buffalo.

(01:15:59):
They'll shuffle off of Buffalo in the wildcard round. Let's
go to the NFC the Lions. They win the NFC North,
they beat Minnesota Sunday night. By the way, if they
tie Minnesota Sunday Night, they also get the number one seed.
Thanks to beating the Niners the other night. A Week
eighteen loss that looms large. That would drop the Lions
to the number five seed, where they would either have

(01:16:19):
to face Tampa Bay or the Rams. The Falcons they
could theory have in theory have to go to Atlanta,
but Tampa Bay would have to lose as a fourteen
point favorite. That ain't gonna happen. Okay, the Eagles, you know,
they're locked into the number two seed. On the wild
card weekend, they'll host the NFC's lowest wildcard team. It'd
probably be either Washington or Green Bay. Boy that Green Bay,

(01:16:42):
philadelph That would be a tough first round matchup. Wow.
The Rams enter Sunday, they play the Seahawks. They have
a chance to clinch the number three seed, and that
would they can achieve that if they win in the
Tampa Bay Bucks lose against New Orleans. I think Sean
McVay is making a calculated risk that they won't lose,

(01:17:04):
that the Bucks won't lose to the Saints, So it
looks like he'll settle for the you know, the four seed.
That's if they lose to the Seahawks and the Bucks
defeat the Saints. Look, the bottom line is a number
four seed would put the Rams against the Vikings or
the Lions in the first round of the playoffs. The
number three seed would meet the Rams would either host

(01:17:25):
the Greenba Packers or the Washington Commanders. But this all
happ only happens if Tampa Bay loses. Tampa Bay they
can make the playoffs only as the NFC South champion,
So New Orleans comes in as a fourteen point underdog
and Tapa Bay just has to win that would make
them the NFC South champion. In Atlanta Falcons defeat to

(01:17:51):
the visiting the Carolina Panthers would also get the Tampa
Bay Bucks in. That could happen. I don't expect it
to happen. I expect probably most likely Tampa Bay to
win and Atlanta to win, which means the Bucks are in.
They could push their way into the number three seed
with a victory on Sunday, and if the Rams lose
to the Seahawks as then Tampa Bay would be the

(01:18:14):
number three seed, and as the number three seed, the
Bucks would likely face either Green Bay or Washington in
the opening round of the playoffs. But if the Bucks
remain the number four seed. They'll host either the Vikings
or Lions over the wildcard weekend, a fourteen win team.
But also you gotta clude this, the Bucks could in
theory be eliminated from the postseason if they fall to

(01:18:36):
the Saints and the Falcons beat the Packers. There is
your premer. All right, hopefully it took notes. It's going
to be a fun Sunday. It's going to be a
damn fun Sunday. You know it's not fun. It's crazy
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should be looking ahead to next week it all starts Thursday.
We have a five day extravaganza. We'll have obviously a

(01:19:38):
great college football semifinal game and on Thursday, and then
one on Friday. The two matchups are Texas, Ohio State
of course, Penn State and Notre Dame. Then we'll have
the magnificent wild Card weekend. I believe we have three
games on Saturday, two on Sunday, and one on Monday, regardless,

(01:19:59):
five straight days. But it all starts off again with
the resumption of the college football Playoff. And give it
up huge to the Arizona State Sun Devils. Shay, I
can't not do this, buddy, you there, are you there?

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
Shay?

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Yeah, brainon, Okay, huge props to your Arizona State Sun
Devils who should have won that game. And I'll tell
you why. You tell me that was not targeting.

Speaker 6 (01:20:33):
No, I completely agree. It's targeting. And that's something that
when it first happened, I was like, oh, no way,
they don't. They don't call this. It's this is an
easy call. And then when it didn't happen, I was like,
all right, whatever, like let's move on from this. And
then obviously, like throughout the game, well after that we
didn't win and all that, and I got way more

(01:20:53):
upset about that call after the fact. But that wasn't
even the thing that got me the most upset that game.
We could have won the game in the in the
in the first overtime, in that fourth down when with
the broken coverage, they got the score.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
Got the guy behind you.

Speaker 6 (01:21:09):
Yeah, it seems like there was a lot of missed
opportunities on our end. We had the better team, even
though Texas had the more five stars, probably the more
NFL ready players. When it came to just looking at
the who had the better team just from that one game,
it was us, And it was just really it was

(01:21:31):
a frustrating game from my end.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
I'm gonna say something that some people might find out rageous.
You might have the better coach too.

Speaker 6 (01:21:41):
I don't think that's not out of ageous at all.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Ills been around for so long, and he's you know,
and he worked with Saban, and he's got a long resume,
et cetera. This kid can coach man. He's phenomenal in
terms of his demeanor. Uh, but I'm very bothered by
what I said, saw shape very and I'll tell you why,

(01:22:04):
because by the well by the pure definition of targeting.
He led with a crown of his helmet. It was
helmet to helmet, that's without question. But they went and
reviewed it. So what the hell were the three stooges
looking at when these guys put their heads together made
a rock pile? What is it? What is it that
they failed to see? And that replay video that led

(01:22:28):
to the decision that this in fact was not targeting?
Is anybody explained that?

Speaker 5 (01:22:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:22:35):
No, I even Kenny said, he was like, I don't
even know what targeting is after that happened, and like
when you when I was watching it too, there's no like,
I've never seen a more targeting tackle, like a play
that should have been called targeting that wasn't called targeting.
Like I don't think there's been a tackle that easily

(01:22:57):
like oh that's targeting that hasn't been called like that,
like in any other game that's targeted. It just doesn't
make sense to me, Bernie, It didn't make sense to me,
and it still doesn't make sense to me now. But
I'm not gonna be the guy that's sitting here and
saying that's the reason we lost. Because there were a
lot of different there were a lot of other reasons
and a lot of other situations that happened during that

(01:23:18):
game right that we could have won the game. But
that's just one of them. That just adds to the
big list of things that made me cuss under my
breath that day.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
They were down twenty forty eight, they never gave up.
You gotta love Cam Scattable. He will be on an
NFL roster. He probably still ruins a special teams guy.
But you got to put this kid on the field. Okay,
at the end of the day. You can take all
your forty times and shuttle drills and bench press metrics.
You gotta be able to play football. And if you

(01:23:50):
want to find out if a guy can play football,
turn on the tape. This dude was born to play football.
I mean, you throw threw a touchdown pass for crying
out loud.

Speaker 6 (01:24:00):
So anyway, he was like, ces, great, did you see
him talking about that play? He saw? He said the
safety was dropping in the entire time. The way he
was talking about is he just doesn't everyone's talking about
him like he's some just running back that puts his
head down. Gets lucky. He doesn't have to find a hole.
There's a problem that's going around from the Jason Smith Show.

(01:24:20):
As much as I love Jason Smith and Mike Harmon,
they're saying how he isn't going to do amazing in
the NFL just because people make tackles in the NFL.
But then again, it's like you're taking away from all
these college players or players were five stars.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Let me tell you I didn't mean to cut you off,
which I just did. I covered the NFL for ten
years up close and personal. He might be a Steve
Tasker type who says he has to be a running
back that carries the ball twenty times exactly. This kid
is a freaking football player. You find a way to
put him on the field. You put him on the field,

(01:24:53):
and you turn on the film and he's going to
do something. I think you'll start out on special teams.
Remember what Steve Taskers a Hall of Fame special teams
player for the Buffalo Bills. Do you remember that name?

Speaker 6 (01:25:04):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Yeah, So you know, let's start there and he'll get
his carries and you know what, I didn't know, they
made tackles in the NFL. I love Jason Smith too, man.
I see a lot of teams who can't tackle in
space for crap.

Speaker 6 (01:25:20):
I agree. I mean, you see the Giants. There's a
lot of teams out there there right now that are
lacking and tackling.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
And plus he can block, he can ship lock, he
can catch the ball out of the backfield. He's a weapon.

Speaker 6 (01:25:30):
Touchdowns the guys over there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
He's a rolling ball of butcher knives. He is are
There are some guys that are athletes. And look about
fifty percent of the guys in the NFL are there
because they love football. The other fifty percent they're there
because they love the paycheck, no doubt about it. And
that's okay. This dude was born to play football. He's
got a football face. I mean, he's got Forget it, man,

(01:25:55):
they missed on this guy, and he won't be a
high draft choice. He's gonna get on somebody's roster. Watch
him in up with like some of like Kansas City,
and they'll find a way to put him on the
field to make a play. Somehow, some way. He'll make place. Anyway, enough,
said Arizona State. I thought I quitted themselves very very well.

(01:26:16):
I loved watching Jake the Snake plumber on the sidelines
going nuts, so you know, I remember when n Juan
Roquat was at Arizona State. I remember back in eighty
seven when Arizona State beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl.
I remember the Frank Kush days at Arizona State. They're
good and I always wondered, why you've got this powder
keg there in Tempe. Great place to go to school,

(01:26:38):
great place to live, and now they're in a big
time you know, well they are always at a big
time conference with the Pac twelve. Hell, I remember back
when they were in the whack with BYU and Utah
on those schools. Arizona State's a stud school. We played
them in baseball. I have played at that field. So
I always wondered, what is it going to take for
this school to emerge and be one of the you know,

(01:27:02):
elite top football programs. Do you know much about their collective?
There is what they got.

Speaker 6 (01:27:06):
Going, Yeah, the Sun Devil collective. Yeah, it's uh, it's
they've really in the last two years have really picked
it up in terms of just alumni because well, we
aren't a private school, but we are one of the
schools that you get They have a ton of money
and I know that the president, Michael Crowe. I've done

(01:27:27):
a couple of interviews with him myself where he wants
to put as much money as possible into the program,
and he has a lot of alumni come in meetings,
and I know that he's putting his own money into
into the collective. But I get emails all the time now,
just like one once a week now, I was saying, oh,
donate to keep it going, like blah blah blah blah blah,

(01:27:48):
and like, don't get me wrong, like I don't see
an issue with it, and I just think it's funny
that it's like right right now is when they started
pushing it out, and it wasn't in the beginning of
the season that I was getting thesey mouns.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
All right. Well that kind of segues into what I
talk next, because I'll talk about next because they are
we are now in a day and age where not
only does Arizona State have a path to a national championship,
they's proved it right between the transfer portal and the NIL,
your fortunes can change overnight. And if you don't believe me,

(01:28:26):
the first fifteen days of the transfer portal this year,
there were twenty six hundred and fourteen players that entered it.
It only took fifteen days to break last year's record
of twenty six to eleven. And I don't know what
the final number is now we can probably look it
up now. The Winner Transfer Portal technically for underclassmen closed

(01:28:47):
December twenty eighth, and so that means that the transfer
portal is winding down, right, No, no, And this is
why I wanted to make this presentation tonight, because I
don't think people truly understand the vastness of the transfer portal. Okay,
so the Winner Transfer Portal closing was December twenty eighth.
But here's everything you need to know about who can

(01:29:09):
still enter and what's possible and what's ahead for transfers,
not just not but over the next month and over
the next several months. So here's the reality. December twenty
eighth was not a firm deadline. Transfer portal windows indicate
when players must submit their paperwork to end of the portal.
Buy They do, not, however, indicate when a player can

(01:29:30):
be entered into the portal. See Once the school receives
a player's paperwork to enter the portal, the compliance department
has forty eight hours to submit the player's name into
the NCAA's Transfer portal database. And given the fact that
the last day of the transfer portal window was a
week ago Saturday, players basically up till midnight local time
to submit their names. Now, given the fact that compliance

(01:29:52):
departments have forty eight hours to process the paperwork, you
were hearing players enter the portal well beyond Monday and
even into Tuesday beyond. But we're not done. There are
exceptions to deadlines. The most notable has to do with
postseason play. This is not being reported anywhere that I
can see. I'm reporting it tonight. Any player who participates

(01:30:16):
in the postseason, whether it's just a regular old Bull game,
I don't give danvers the Pop Tarts Bowl or a
playoff game, they have an additional five day window to
enter the portal once the season comes to an end.
So if a player's bowl game, say was January first,

(01:30:36):
you've got till January sixth, which is tomorrow to end
of the portal. So if a player plays in the
National Title Game, which will be coming up on January twentieth,
half through January twenty fifth to enter the portal, that
means there's going to continue to be a small but
steady stream a portal entrance all the way through the

(01:30:59):
end of the month. Now, there's also an exception made
for players who go through a coaching change. Let's say
they're out of school and your coach leaves for another job. Well,
any player in that situation is allowed an immediate thirty
day window to enter the transfer portal. Now, although most
coaching changes have already occurred this offseason, there's still another

(01:31:22):
thirty day window when about grad transfers, which has become
a huge part of the transfer portal. Well, grad transfers
operate under a different set of criteria than everybody else
in transfer portal. They're allowed to enter the portal at
any time, even though even if that time is outside

(01:31:43):
of the FBS Winter Transfer portal window, which I just
said was December ninth through twenty eighth. Any grad transfer
has until the end of the spring the Spring portal window,
to submit their names into the portal. Oh spring portal window,
what's that? Okay, We're still not done. There are two
transfer portal windows for FBS football. The first one opened

(01:32:07):
December ninth, and in in December twenty eighth. Even though
I just shared with you why that is not a
hard deadline based on multiple factors. The second transfer portal
window is going to open up April sixteenth, in the
last ten days now last year. In addition to the
twenty six hundred players that entered in the winter transfer portal,

(01:32:30):
you're not going to have their excuse me, there were
more than twelve hundred FBS players that entered the portal
during the spring cycle window last spring and right on
Q twenty seven Sports. Twenty four to seven Sports has
already ranked the top three schools so far as to

(01:32:52):
how they fare in the current class of transfer portals
for the twenty to twenty five season. This is big
coming in at number three, the Old Miss Rebels and
Lane Kiffin. He's already nabbed three former Arkansas starters and
they're following the same recruiting acumen to the last several
cycles and they've got them. They've got designs on getting

(01:33:15):
another top five class between now and the spring. Old
Miss got the nod from a former Nebraska pass rusher
by the name of Princeville Uman Lemlin and if I
pronounced that right, whose brother played at Oxford this last
season at Mississippi after transferring from Florida. He'll join another
guy that Sean Olmack, who's coming in from LSU, And

(01:33:39):
all of a sudden, now Old miss has already basically
rebuilt their defensive front just like that in the transfer portal.
That's why I said what I said about Arizona State
checking in and number two. By the way, Ole miss
they've already got fifteen transfer portal commits. Fifteen LSU, they've
already got thirty teen transfer portal commits. Brian Kelly made

(01:34:04):
it very clear before the portal opened that he said
this year LSU, we're going to be buyers, and he
was right. They needed to revamp their secondary. They brought
in two potential starting cornerbacks. They got a kid from
Florida State named Patrick Payton and a couple of other

(01:34:26):
playmaking weapons. They got a stud wide receiver from Kentucky
named Barrian Brown and Nick Anderson from Oklahoma. So they
are returning their quarterback, Garrett Nusmayer, and they have a
freshman who transferred from Mississippi State behind him. LSU decided
they're going to revamp their offense, but ranking number one,

(01:34:49):
interestingly enough, go figure this one. Maybe they want to
be in Lubbock, and nothing wrong with that. The Tech
Tech rederaidors have already nabbed seventeen transfer portal commits. They
were making big waves. This is now essentially, let's face it,

(01:35:11):
call it the portal. It's free agency, it's football, college
football free agency. They got a stud lineman from Illinois
State name hunters Zenmbrono. He announced for Texas Tech right
after the winner went to open. He's considered the number
one overall interior offensive lineman available. He's a big boost

(01:35:32):
the Texas Tech offensive line needed to fill that gap.
They're the only Big twelve team currently ranked inside of
the twenty four to seven Sports Top ten Portal haul
and the Raiders, well, they have a coach named Joey
McGuire and they have designs very much on competing for

(01:35:54):
a title next year. So there you have it, the
transfer portal. You thought you knew it, there's more layers
to then you realize you knew. And that's why we
like to have fun with this kind of stuff. I
want to switch gears ever so quickly. It won't be long.
You're going to be hearing about pitchers and catchers reporting
and players that you know they have their own transfer

(01:36:15):
portal in the in Major League Baseball club free agency,
and a guy by the name of Juan Soto cashed
in big for seven hundred and sixty five million dollars recently.
But there are some contract details you might have missed,

(01:36:35):
and some of these contact details are going to cause
you to raise an eyebrow, might even piss you off
a little bit. You'll see where I'm going with this
when they start to share with you some of these
under the radar contract details for Juan Soto. By the way,
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Radio app. All right. One Soto entered the transfer portal
recently and he got the bag. The Yankees offered him
seven hundred and sixty million. He said, not up in here,
but I will take the seven hundred and sixty five

(01:38:42):
that the Mets offer, and when I share with you
a little tidbit here in a minute, it may give
some insight as to why he chose the Mets over
the Yankees. So speculative, of course, but let's start with
the basics. Okay, he gets a seventy five million dollar

(01:39:03):
one soda, gets a seventy five million dollar signing bonus,
and he'll get salaries of just under forty seven million
in twenty five and twenty six, about forty three million
and twenty seven, about forty seven million again in twenty
eight and twenty nine, and then forty six million in
each of the final ten seasons. That was your day.

(01:39:25):
Just for a little context, let's sort this out. Averages
out to fifty one million a year, nine hundred and
eighty thousand dollars a week, one hundred and forty thousand
dollars a day, six thousand dollars an hour, one hundred
dollars a minute. So he goes to heat up his
coffee and the microwave and it takes a minute. He

(01:39:46):
just got paid one hundred bucks to heat up his coffee.
But here's where the plot sickens, and this is where
it kind of got me a little bit in terms
of all right, man, are you? Are you serious? In
addition to all that one, Sodo gets free use of

(01:40:11):
a luxury suite. These things aren't cheap, by the way.
You need free use of a luxury suite and up
to four premium tickets behind home play for regular season
in postseason games the New York Mets. I guess if
you're getting seven hundred and sixty five million, hell, I
mean you can't afford to spring for a suite and

(01:40:34):
some tickets, or you don't want to. Regardless, he got it,
So let me run that by again. In addition to
seven hundred and sixty five million dollars, SODA's gonna get
a free luxury suite and up to four premium tickets
behind home played for all the regular season, season and

(01:40:54):
postseason New York Mets home games. But that's not all.
It's sweet. You think, well, maybe that'd be good enough,
but he gets for the highest priced tickets in the house.
Now back to the Yankees thing I just mentioned. See
the Yankees' final offer to Juan Sota was seven hundred

(01:41:18):
and sixty million over sixteen years. Not a bad piece
of change. That good work. If you can get it.
But here's the kicker. The Yankees quote wouldn't budge on
giving Wan Soto a free suite because their premise was
that would set a historical precedent since Aaron Judge and

(01:41:41):
Derek Jeter, well they both had to pay for their
sweet in the Yankee stadium. Aha, that little devil Juan Soto,
all right, but we're not done. Also, in Juan Soto's
deal with something called a number twenty two class, you see,

(01:42:02):
the Mets have a third basement by the name of
Brett Batty and he's I believe he's been on the
roster for the last three seasons, and Brett Batty wears
number twenty two. Well, apparently Juan Soda wants to wear
twenty two, kind of like Caitlin Clark, whose jersey's about
to be retired on February. Second to the tune of

(01:42:26):
about tickets are seven hundred and eleven dollars a piece.
But I digress. Maybe they should have gained one so
a free suite for that game too. But apparently Juan
Soto wants that jersey just because and he doesn't want to.
To the best of my knowledge from the research I've

(01:42:46):
done being cumbered with any compensation to the aforementioned mister
Brett Batty. Now let me tell how these things work.
Players change teams all the time, and players typically have
a preference for a number, which that's understandable. You get
used to a certain number. And this has been going

(01:43:09):
on forever. My good buddy Tim Flannery, he was a
five and ten man with the Podres, one of the
most popular players of all time. Well, in the fall
of nineteen eighty three, Steve Garvey entered free agency with
the Dodgers and ended up a Podre. Garvy wore number
six with the Dodgers. Tim Flannery at the time war
number six with the Padres. Flannery agreed to go to

(01:43:32):
you know where uniform number eleven when Garvey arrived. But
Garv sat down in Flann and says, you can I
have number six if I you know, I'll take carre
of you. And Flann says that we'll work this out.
And so apparently on a road trip up to San Francisco,
Garvey took Flannery to a very high falute and haberdashery

(01:43:54):
and bought Flann a like a two thousand dollars Italian
suit and that was like forty years ago. Okay, that's
how you do it. It was a gesture, its respect,
its protocol, not for Juan Soto. Oh, by the way,
let's fast forward to now. When Shoho Tani, the class
act that he is, joined the Dodgers, he wanted to

(01:44:17):
wear number seventeen, but of course number seventeen was already
spoken for. One of the Dodgers relief pitchers, Joe Kelly,
wore number seventeen, but he did agree to give up
the number and in return, the compensation that mister Kelly

(01:44:37):
received was wait for it, a Porsche wha show Yotani
bought Joe Kelly a new Porsche. See, that's how you
do these things. That's how you do these things. But
all Juan Soto wanted in his contract, along with the
seven hundred and sixty five million and for use of
a luxury suite and for premium tickets, was number twenty two.

(01:45:02):
He just put it in the contract that he would
get Juan Sota would get to wear number twenty two
without having to ask mister Batty for it. But but
there is a little known clause in the Major League
Baseball Collective bargaining agreement that states that if Juan Soto

(01:45:23):
inherits that jersey from mister Brett Bady number twenty two,
he has to buy the remaining allotment of all of
the mister Baty number twenty two merchandise. Not because he
agreed to it, not because it's part of the contract,
but it's a rule in the Major League Baseball Collective
Bargaining Agreement. I told you this stuff happens all the time.
Once again, we're not done. What else does Wan Soda

(01:45:45):
get in addition to seven hundred and sixty million, a
free luxury suite for premium tickets to every game in
the jersey Number twenty two he gets for full security
detail for him and his family for all road and
home game games that can't be cheap. I had no
idea that the Soda family. I couldn't recognize the Sodo

(01:46:08):
family if I saw him, But what do I know?
By the way, Juan Soda will also get a nice
tidy five hundred thousand dollars bonus for winning his first MVP.
If he wins an MVP award after that, or more
than one award after that, he'll get an additional one
million dollars with every MVP after the first one. If

(01:46:31):
he just finishes in the top three in MVP voting
any of these seasons, Juan Soto will cash a check
for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. It feels like
chump change now. And if Jan Soto just finishes in
the top five of MVP voting in any season, he'll

(01:46:53):
cash a check for one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
So there you have it. It's the entire one Soto
seven hundred and sixty million contract, seven hundred and sixty
million dollars contract from soup to nuts to move across town,
to move from the from Manhattan in the Bronx out

(01:47:17):
to Long Island and play for the Mets. It'll be
interesting to see if they actually win, because that's kind
of what they got out for, isn't it. They're sure
as they'll pay a lot. But look, you know, if
I'm on the line here tweet apt be at Bernie Frattle,
I just feel like, I just feel like there's something

(01:47:39):
about the excess here. I never count anybody else's money,
and I don't give a damn he's earned it. But
you know, the free suites and the Jersey deal and
tickets and this and that.

Speaker 5 (01:47:48):
This.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
Okay, man, really, really what are we doing here? But again,
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The Bernie Frattle Show. You'll see this show posted right
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the NFL season and even last season, you've heard the
name Ben Johnson many many times. But there's a twist

(01:48:30):
to this story, and if you're a Bears fan, you
might not like what you're about to hear, because all
of a sudden, there are rumors floating out there in
the ether that Ben Johnson, the highly coveted, highly successful,
incredibly creative offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions, is linked

(01:48:52):
to a different team now and these rumors continue to resurface.
I'll give you the latest coming up. I'm Bernie Fraddle,
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very entertaining and a very attention grabbing week eighteen in
the National Football League, culminating by Game two seventy two,

(01:49:35):
approximately five to twenty pm Pacific time, eight twenty Detroit, Minnesota.
And Detroit's offensive coordinator is Ben Johnson, and he probably
could have got himself a nice gig last year, but
he wanted to come back. He had unfinished business. And
you know what's the rumor, rumor, rumor rumor as far

(01:49:58):
as where Ben Johnson they saved my end up. We
already know that there's gonna at least seven openings. So
there already are a couple, all right, one being in
Chicago Bears, which appears to be that, you know, the
the rumor where Ben Johnson would go. I have no
idea that every materializes, but it's hell, it's been out

(01:50:18):
there and Ryan Poles is. You know, it's my understanding
he charged with the head coaching search in Chicago. But
here's where the story takes a twist, because there's speculation
and I never call for a man's job, and I'm

(01:50:39):
not going to now, but there's speculation that it's possible
that the Bears could move on from Ryan Poles as
their general manager after the regular season concludes. According to
Albert Breer, Poles will remain in his role in the
Bears front office this off season because going to be

(01:51:00):
the point man for the team's head coach search. But
here's where the story gets even a little trickier. Poles
only has one year left under his contract, and the
idea of Polls being in the final year of his
contract has been a point of contention when you start
to juxtapose that scenario when you consider the bearest chances

(01:51:25):
of recruiting Ben Johnson to be their next coach. Right,
Johnson wants to be aligned with perhaps a general manager
of his liking, and that's something that wouldn't be the
case for the Bears unless Poles is extended. Now remains
to be determined if the Bears will hand out an

(01:51:45):
extension to Ryan Poles. Only Chicago fans can't can honestly
tell me if they believe Ryan Poles deserves an extension.
But again, here's where it gets slippy slippery. According to

(01:52:06):
the telephone game, this guy tells that guy. There's another
reason rumor that suggests that Ryan Poles may actually have
reservations about hiring Ben Johnson in the first place. There's
a lot of belief, or at least opinion, that Ben
Johnson could in theory, be the impetus behind pushing bulls

(01:52:29):
out if he's hired. So can you imagine hiring the
guy who pushes you out? And again, this is all rumor,
speculation in nuendo. But when this world we're in, things fly.
Ben Johnson apparently it's been allegedly bannied about that he

(01:52:50):
would actually be interested in the commander's assistant, GM, Lance
Newmark as the GM And why well Newmark was with
Ben Johnson in Detroit. And actually Ryan Poles has a
good history with Viking's defensive coordinator Brian Flores. Flores could

(01:53:10):
be a top candidate if Ryan Poles is there. So
is it fair to speculate and asserteam that Ryan Poles
might be steering clear of Ben Johnson and Ben Johnson's
potential hiring for the Chicago Bears, and is you know,

(01:53:32):
taking up residents at Hollis Hall. So you have to
take all of these rumors and innuendos and group think
echo chamber, you know, statements floating in the ether with
a grand assault until the Bears actually begin the interview process.
And I think for some people this would be concerning
if true. Johnson appears to be the best candidate for

(01:53:54):
the Bears opening because of his offensive proclivities. But I
don't even know if that's true. Do you really need
to hire a guy who's learning down the job and
has to be the CEO of a franchise in front
of one of the greatest fan bases in the National
Football League and have to produce results right away with
the culture that currently exists. Look, I'm here to tell

(01:54:15):
you I cover the Lions ten years. And if you're
an offensive coordinator, you're head coach of the offense. You're
a defensive coordinator, you're head coach of the defense. When
you're a head coach of your CEO, you wear a
totally different hat. It's a completely different skill set. All right,
Johnson appears to be the best candidate according to some
for the Bears opening. And if Poles is in fact
avoiding the Lions and this you know coach because of

(01:54:39):
what it may mean for his future, Well, does that
mean Kevin Warren steps in and takes action and does
he remove Ryan Pols? I don't know, okay, but this
is a rumor that you know, predicted also that the
Bears would be the best bet when predicting where Ben
Johnson would you know, end up this offseason if in

(01:55:02):
fact he leaves Detroit and gets an NFL job. Now,
it's it's my understanding that after the you know, the
Bears played their final game Sunday, there'll be a press conference.
Ryan pulls a hold of press conference at House Hall,
and it's presumed at that time they will be discussing,
you know, the Bears head coaching search, as this will

(01:55:24):
this will be obviously first and foremost and will be
critical and an important juncture to determine not only you know,
what the Bears are going to do, but where things
stand between the polls and Ryan Poles and the Bears
and what direction the team wants to go. So there's
a lot of movie parts. But there's also another part
of this story that might scare or concern Bears fans

(01:55:45):
if they're the one that truly want Ryan Poles. Ryan
are checked out, truly wrot Ben Johnson. There is another
team that whose name quietly under the radar, that continues
to be linked to Ben Johnson. And it's a rumor
that's surfacing a little bit more every day. All right,

(01:56:07):
And we know that coaches across the league, they move
from staff to staff, team to team, and the playoffs
being there's going to be some sort of patience with
teams who have head coaching vacancies, but there are an
inevitable hirings and firings in one of those appears to
be I don't call for a man's job. It appears
to be the wins that change are very clear in
Jacksonville and that Doug Peterson and their general manager Trent

(01:56:29):
Balky are on the hot seat. They have a very
terrible season this year under very disappointing and if the
Jaguars were to move on from Peterson, and you're going
to don't look now, we're twenty four to forty eight
hours for what Black Monday and the latest reports, and
even Pete Prisco, who once worked as the Jaguars beat reporter,

(01:56:51):
mentioned on social media that Ben Johnson would be a
great fit for the Jaguars, why because of their franchise
quarterback Trevor Lawrence. But there's also a hang up in
the form of Trent Balkey. Pete Prisker went out to
say Ben Johnson's would be so good for Trevor Lawrence,
but it won't happen until Trent Balkey is gone. Now,

(01:57:11):
Ben Johnson, his name continues to be tied to potentd
to this theoretical potential Jacksonville Jaguars opening, even though nothing
again can be official until the Jaguars actually have an opening,
and they don't. So for now, the Jags I believe
they face the Texans Sunday. Doug Peterson is still on

(01:57:32):
the sidelines. Actually check that they're on the road against Indianapolis.
But there appears to be for people reportedness smarter than me,
that Doug Peterson will not be there next year. If
that's the case, they're now saying that the Jaguars are
a logical landing spot for Ben Johnson. So bears Jaguars,

(01:57:53):
who knows, by the way, the Lions got bigger fish
to fry Sunday night, and I'm sure they're not too
worried about this, and Benson should be either should be
worried about whether or not his defense can hold a
lead if they get him one. Coming up? What kind
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should be. Well, we've come to that juncture in the week.
You look forward to it all week long, one hundred
and sixty eight hours away, and here it is. You see,
because as Yogi Berra once said, you know you can
observe a lot by watching, and that's exactly what we
do here on the Bernie Frattle Show. Because around this
great land of ours, from seed to oily Sea and

(01:58:58):
certainly even around the grul the planet will people engage
in behaviors. They engage in oddball silliness and oftentimes is
sort of innocuous and just a little crazy, but many
other times can morph into things more serious. Run a
file of the law, can even land you in jail.
But anyway you slice it, any way you describe it,

(01:59:20):
anyway you characterize it, well, these behaviors always always leave
us scratching our head and asking ourselves, what kind of
brand new fool are you? So?

Speaker 1 (01:59:36):
What kind of brand new fool are you?

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
Well, as usual, this one's a beauty and will very
much leave you scratching your head as it left the
Seminole County Sheriff's Department scratching their head. Yep, shay, good news.
We take you back to Florida. We take you back
to Seminole where a gentleman, we'll just call him Jane,

(02:00:00):
fifty six year old James entered a Chase Bank branch
recently and approached a teller, and he had a gun
tucked under his shirt, and as he walked into the bank,
he looked at the teller with his hand and his
gun under his shirt and demanded it the teller hand

(02:00:23):
over cash and then said, quote according to the police department, quote,
advised here not to push any buttons as he waited
for her to open a drawer. Well, the bank employee
complied and handed over the princely sum of one d

(02:00:45):
and twenty dollars one hundred and twenty dollars one hundred
and twenty dollars James, so that's a pretty good haul
for today, and he had it out. What's interesting is
you could easily see under mister james shirt was not
a gun, but it was a finger in the shape

(02:01:07):
of a gun. Was right out of three Stooges Woody
Allen cartoon movie. This dude walks into a bank, robbing
a bank with a gun. This, according to the police report.
With a hand under his shirt, mister James made the
shape of a gun with his finger and demanded the

(02:01:28):
cash be handed over. He got one hundred and twenty
dollars and took off. He was caught within nine minutes.
Nine minutes mister James, who the cops who've described as
a transient, was arrested charged with robbery. He's being held

(02:01:50):
in the County Jaia in lieu of ten thousand dollars
bond on felony court. This is the part that kind
of cracks me up. According to the Planet, the complaint
and the police report, no weapons were seized from mister
James one hundred and twenty dollars with a finger gun

(02:02:10):
under his shirt only in Florida, right, mister jameson seminole
robbing one hundred and twenty dollars from a bank. What
kind of brand new fool are you? Okay, Shay, let's
go baby.

Speaker 6 (02:02:25):
That's a good one man. The finger guns, they go
a long way, they go a long way. Well, this
one goes to Texas where get ready for this headline
Bernie Texas teen killed goat at school barn used for
livestock contests. So I guess there's certain high schools out
there in the US that do livestock contests. I haven't

(02:02:47):
heard of this. Have you wear any.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
That could that in and of itself could pose multiple
questions in terms of what comprises a live stock contest,
And I mean, yeah, I've not heard of it. Let
me just let me just answer the question directly. No, sir,
I've not heard of that.

Speaker 6 (02:03:06):
So I'm assuming it has something to do with just
how a certain animal looks. I think I've seen videos
and all that, but I didn't know they had it
in high school. But anyway, this leads me to this
story where a seventeen year old Texas girl has been
charged with animal cruelty after she killed another teenage goat
a teenager's goat by force feeding it pesticides because she

(02:03:30):
believe the goats keeper was a cheater. According to the authorities,
the girl, Aubrey van Landingham, was questioned at Vista Ridge
High School in Cedar Park near Austin, Texas by a
law enforcement officer. The school has a liveck livestock barn
where the goat was found dead on October twenty fourth,

(02:03:52):
twenty twenty four. The school also has a robust partnership
where basically they do that every month they'll have like
a different livestock contests. So this is a pretty big
deal in that high school. So the miss Landingham actually
originally denied responsibility, but later confessed to having fed pesticide

(02:04:15):
to the goat named Willie, which resulted in the goat's
swift and painful death according to an affidavid and arrest
weren't filed by the detective in Williamson County in November.
Miss van Landingham was arrested on November twenty second and
later posted a five thousand dollars bond. According to court records,
she agreed to not have any contact with the family

(02:04:37):
that owned and kept Willy the Goat. She also agreed
to not look after any animals, but may look after
her own pets under adult supervision. Cruelty and livestock animals
are a felony and actually carries a maximum sentence of
two years in prison and ten thousand dollars penalty in

(02:04:58):
Miss van Landingham schedule to beer back in court on
January fifteenth. So that just leads me to say, it's
Van Landingham. What kind of brand new fool are you.

Speaker 2 (02:05:11):
I'm guessing she's going to get some jail time if
you're murder a god. Is that fair?

Speaker 6 (02:05:14):
I think so? I mean it was it was this
pretty big deal too, in terms of the contests and
all that. So, I mean, I'm sure they press charges.

Speaker 2 (02:05:26):
So can you imagine you know Rikers Island, Hey Van Lanningham,
you know inmate number one three seven six, nine nine two.
What are you in for? I killed a gold with
some trick nine. Yeah, what are you went for? I
murdered a family of seven. Oh nice to meet you.

(02:05:47):
Oh my god. By the way, just ever so quickly,
these livestock contests, I mean, what do you win if
you win a livestock contest.

Speaker 6 (02:05:58):
Well, I'm not sure in high school what you win.
I'm sure it's just prizes in high school. And maybe
there's something in college and all that so they can
go on to like college. But I know an actual
livestock contests, there's actually like prize money and different things
like that, metals.

Speaker 2 (02:06:17):
Maybe a free oxtail dinner.

Speaker 6 (02:06:20):
I could definitely see that hat on the table. I've
been looking for good oxtail dinners near me in LA.
It's not a lot, Brandy, I'll tell you that.

Speaker 2 (02:06:28):
You know that's something that actually is big in Texas.
Ox tail, Yeah, no joke. I've not had it. Have
you had ox? Have you ever had it? No? I do.

Speaker 6 (02:06:38):
But I keep seeing on my Instagram those oxtail plates
with mac and cheese and grits and oxtail, and oh
my god, I want one so bad. Oh, Barnie, I'll
send it over to you. They look insane. I eat
a lot of lamb it reminds me of lamb a lot,
so I like. I like that, but it it looks
like lamb neck honestly.

Speaker 2 (02:06:58):
Of course, you know begs gratuitous statement. I'm guessing I've
never had lamb. Does lamb taste like chicken?

Speaker 6 (02:07:04):
You've never had lamb at all?

Speaker 2 (02:07:07):
Sorry, I'm not a You're gonna have to forgive me, Shay,
I'm not an. I am not a.

Speaker 6 (02:07:11):
Lamb is more like red meat, red meat, does it? Yeah,
it's more. It's more red meat. Yeah, it's pretty tender.
It's it falls off the bone pretty easily.

Speaker 2 (02:07:20):
I'll tell you a quick story. I'll get off track
because I guess I'm not too ashamed to admit I'm
the most basic eater of all time. Just a very
xenophobic when it comes to eating. I'll eat some normal stuff,
but not I just can't go crazy.

Speaker 4 (02:07:34):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:07:35):
One time, though, I was I think I was in
Colorado or Hamburger, and they brought the hamburger to tasted different. Right,
This is pretty good, man, Actually it tastes something different.
He goes, oh, shoot, we brought you a venison burger
and I was eating venison. Didn't even know it. But
I can't lie. Uh, it was good. And then the
minute I found out it was venison, you know, I

(02:07:57):
wound up my arman through an eighty eight mile hours
fastball and rashly just my brain just couldn't get my
mind around. I'll tell you one worse, many many many
years ago. I was at a convention in Palm Springs.
I mean, this is way way way, way, way way
way way back when. And you know, it's that one
of those outdoors soarewe's and you're up dressed up in suits,
and and uh, these waiters kept coming by with these

(02:08:19):
plates and this, uh, these toothpicks with kind of like
this barbecue chicken, right, spicy chicken, and I grab a
couple of toothpicking. I might have had a few cream dements.
I mean, I don't know, I'm hungry, and uh, all
of a sudden, I grab a toothpick, and oh my god,
this chicken is really good. It's spicy, it's tasty, It's

(02:08:41):
got a little bit different consistency. Wonder I wonder how
they prepared it. Did they guilt, did they grill it,
did they boil? What did they do? This is this
is really good. So after about eight toothpicks of chicken.
The waiter comes by. I go, hey, man, this is
really good. Uh how did they prepare this chicken? And
the waiter looks at me and says, chicken. That's not chicken,

(02:09:03):
that's snake. Oh snake snake?

Speaker 6 (02:09:09):
I can't say.

Speaker 2 (02:09:10):
And I had like eight of them, and before I
knew they were snake, I was like, these are good.
The minute I found out they were snake, you might
as well if you've just been standing next to me
with a chainsaw. I always said, Shaye, just kill me
with a chainsaw.

Speaker 6 (02:09:27):
I don't believe it.

Speaker 2 (02:09:29):
I just did. It freaked me out. So really, yeah, yeah,
I can't lie man, I'm a basic get all right.
Well that will conclude another rhusing edition. Got a little
off track there of what kind of brand new fool you?
Which now opens the door and allows us to secuay
into our second favorite bit that we lovingly refer to
as what my name? And here we go. So, Shay,

(02:09:54):
you're a college football officionado, of course, So the Alabama
Crimson let me tell you a whole lot of head cracking.
They only won nine games this year. Well, the last
time the Alabama Crimson Tide failed to win ten games.
I was their head coach. What my name is? That?

Speaker 6 (02:10:16):
Is this for me?

Speaker 2 (02:10:18):
It is you? For you, Shay, I'm sorry, no, it
is not.

Speaker 6 (02:10:20):
Is so the last time they won less than ten
games is the question?

Speaker 2 (02:10:27):
Because you know they didn't after getting there a butt
kicked by Michigan. They ended up with nine wins. The
last time they failed to win ten games, I was
the head coach, Shaye, what my name?

Speaker 6 (02:10:42):
I don't think it was saving. It wasn't saving. Let's
go Mike Shula.

Speaker 2 (02:10:48):
Mike Shula, which excuse me, sir, I think I just
choked on some speak there. Uh it's not Mike Shola.
But that's really a damn good guess because you are
aware of how bad Shoe was stunk it up. The
last time the Alabama Crimson tie who won lesson ten games?

(02:11:13):
I was a head coach, Mark Ramsey. What my name?
And here's the clue. It may have been mentioned just
a minute ago by one mister Shay.

Speaker 7 (02:11:26):
Is it Nick Saban?

Speaker 2 (02:11:29):
It is Nick Saban. By the way, I just got
a tweet from a gentleman named Robert Baker. He says,
come on, Bernie, relating to the livestock it's called FFA
Future Farmers of America Traditional Royal Blue Jacket John mellencap
or Seymour Indiana FFA jacket in the video Big Money

(02:11:50):
and College Scholarships at play? Hey, can you bet on it?
Can you pull a groin? Can you trash talk? I'm
all about it, good tweet, Robert, because I'm all about
ff A livestock knowledge. But in all fairness, if this
is in fact the big deal, I don't want to
minimize it. So there we have a clay, pretty shape,
pretty good stuff. Huh your thoughts, it's very good. It's

(02:12:15):
very good. Okay, all right, it's commonplace now when a
team wins the super Bowl, the president invites them to
the White House. I'm actually the first president in history
to invite a super Bowl winner to the White House.
Shaye Mogngard, What my name?

Speaker 6 (02:12:34):
The first?

Speaker 2 (02:12:35):
Oh god, I was actually the first president.

Speaker 6 (02:12:38):
So the first president to invite let's go, let's go.
Mark help me out here.

Speaker 7 (02:12:47):
I was gonna say, mister Truman.

Speaker 2 (02:12:50):
They played the super Bowl during Harry Truman's years. But
I love the answer. It's not Harry Truman.

Speaker 6 (02:12:58):
I liked I'd liked it too, you liked it.

Speaker 2 (02:13:00):
All right, Well, let so would that be your answer then.

Speaker 6 (02:13:03):
Shay no, because you said no, so that'd be that
would be dumb with me. I'm gonna say, I don't know,
jim Jimmy Carter is Jimmy Carter.

Speaker 2 (02:13:17):
No way. My clue is going to be he just
passed away.

Speaker 6 (02:13:21):
Oh it was, in.

Speaker 2 (02:13:23):
Fact, Jimmy Carter ex to me, look at you.

Speaker 6 (02:13:28):
All right, how's a total guess.

Speaker 2 (02:13:30):
We move on. Recently, in the history of quarterbacks in
the National Football League, I achieved the distinction of being
sacked more than any other quarterback in the history of
the National Football League. I'm up to five hundred and
sixty eight. Mark Ramsey, what my name. Here's a clue.

(02:13:51):
He's still playing. He's still playing.

Speaker 7 (02:13:56):
Quarterback who has been sacked a bunch.

Speaker 2 (02:13:59):
More than any buddy in history, more than anybody in
his five hundred and sixty eight.

Speaker 7 (02:14:04):
I'm five hundred and sixty.

Speaker 2 (02:14:05):
Eight, five hundred and sixty eight.

Speaker 7 (02:14:07):
I'm gonna go with Caleb Williams.

Speaker 2 (02:14:11):
Kind of seems like it, even though it's only I
am as a as a quarterback of the National Football League,
I've been sacked more than any other quarterback in history.
Five hundred and sixty eight times, Shaye, what my name?

Speaker 6 (02:14:30):
There's two heads in my head.

Speaker 2 (02:14:32):
He won a Super Bowl. He talks too damn much.

Speaker 6 (02:14:35):
Rogers.

Speaker 2 (02:14:36):
It is Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 6 (02:14:37):
Okay, I was gonna say David, not David Carr, Derek
Carr first.

Speaker 2 (02:14:41):
But just remember, I mean, if you're sacked four times
a game, you still have to play eight years.

Speaker 6 (02:14:48):
Yeah, that's why Rogers Rodgers is okay.

Speaker 2 (02:14:50):
He's been around twenty years. Well, okay, which leads to
our next, our next contestant. He Rogers had to break
somebody record, right of course. So when Rogers was sacked,
he's five hundred and sixty six at the time. He
broke my record for being all time quarterback sacked. Mark Ramsey,

(02:15:10):
what my name? Here's a clue. He's currently working as
a broadcaster for NFL games on the Fox.

Speaker 7 (02:15:20):
Current on Fox? Oh is it Terry Bradshaw?

Speaker 2 (02:15:25):
Not Terry Bradshaw, although that's not a bad guess. This
guy won more than one Super Bowl. What my name, Shay,
I've been sacked. Aaron Rodgers broke my record for being
sacked more than anybody else.

Speaker 6 (02:15:38):
This goat is still alive. And this coat's name is
Tom Brady.

Speaker 2 (02:15:42):
Tom Brady lev He's won a few livestock contests in
his day as well.

Speaker 6 (02:15:50):
He definitely has.

Speaker 2 (02:15:52):
Yeah, absolutely all right, moving right along, It's a year
for record breakers. As a rookie. I broke the most
yard rards for a tight end by a rookie for
all time, just this season. Mark Ramsey, what my name.

Speaker 8 (02:16:09):
Is it? Somebody named Bowers?

Speaker 2 (02:16:13):
Yeah, you got it. Buddy's Brock Bowers of the Loss
Vegas Raiders. Well, once again he had to break somebody's record.
So when it came to the most tight end yards
by a rookie, I held the record going back sixty
two years. He broke my record. Let's stay with Mark,

(02:16:34):
because I think Mark's gonna get this. It might be
a city he's familiar with. Mark Ramsey, what my name?

Speaker 7 (02:16:40):
I was a late because it's so old. I was
thinking Dave Casper.

Speaker 2 (02:16:44):
Oh it's even older than that, Think Chicago. Brock Bowers
broke my record for tight end tight end yards by
a rookie Seaane Ogngar, what my name? Here's a clue.
He also coached coach didn't won a Super Bowl for
the Bear Dipka Mike Ditka, Oh wow, you got to

(02:17:04):
see film on that dude. Man, he was crazy. I
didn't know that he was crazy, good crazy and crazy crazy.
You still quay craye? Okay, never mind, Bob, all right,
we just awarded a Heisman Trophy winner. Well, I'm the
only college football player to actually win the Heisman Trophy twice?

(02:17:25):
Mark Ramsey, what my name?

Speaker 8 (02:17:30):
The only I can only think of Desmond Howard. But
that's not right, is it?

Speaker 2 (02:17:34):
It's not right. He wanted in uh, he wanted in
uh at Michigan back in ninety one, but he didn't
win it twice. He didn't win it twice. But good, good,
guess all right, Shay, I'm the only Heisman Trophy winner
in history to win the Heisman Trophy twice. Now here's

(02:17:56):
a clue. It's for a school that was is, in fact,
a very big rival of Michigan, the buck Eyes. Yes, so,
Archie Archie Manning, Archie Archie Griffin.

Speaker 6 (02:18:13):
He'll do it, please?

Speaker 2 (02:18:15):
What is wrong with me? Yeah? No, it might be
having an affection that snake meat I eat at that Damn.
It's a while back. You know that stuff will stay
with you a while, you know, mentally, think, freak me out,
it was way worse than the Venicon burger way worse.

Speaker 6 (02:18:31):
It's just, you know, I need anything warning I try it.

Speaker 2 (02:18:34):
I admire people like you. There are people that do that.
To do that. My dad used to make fun of
me because everybody he was a kid. No matter where
we went, we I ordered a hamburger. Really, I went
to a Chinese first. Somebody went to a Chinese restaurant
order to guy says, no, they have hamburgers. Seriously, and
so one time we go to a Chinese restaurant and

(02:18:57):
the guy says, we don't have hamburgers. Well you got
ground beef. Yeah, I'll make a hammer. So it came
out like all deformed, and my dad started laughing. It
didn't even look like a hammer, but it tasted like one.
So I wish I admire people actually, who can, you know,
step out of their comfort zone and eat weird stuff.

(02:19:18):
I just you know, I'm not hardwired that way. That
little team, I right, all right, all right, a couple
more here the Raiders. Oh wait, you know what, I
tell you what, We're going to skip that one. It's
it's just too damn easy. We'll end on one more. Okay, guys,
we'll end on this one, right, do it? I am
the youngest player in the history of the National Basketball

(02:19:42):
Association to be named to the All Defensive Team. Now,
this name came up earlier during my conversation with Mark Medina,
Mark Ramsey, What my.

Speaker 6 (02:19:56):
Name is it?

Speaker 8 (02:20:00):
The guy from Texas Wemby?

Speaker 2 (02:20:05):
You got it, buddy, It's Victor Webman Yama or the
San Antonio Spurs.

Speaker 4 (02:20:10):
That would be him.

Speaker 2 (02:20:13):
All right, great job, guys. Another rising edition of what
kind of brand new fool of You? Followed by what
my name? Is? Now in the books? Well, another one
hundred and sixty seven hours and thirty seven minutes to
the next edition of what kind of brand new fool
am I? What kind of brand new fool of you?
I guess I'm one two, followed by what my name?

(02:20:35):
Thanks to everybody who participated. Best of luck in your
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the air. Well, we covered all here on The Bernie
Frattle Show, including the sport that's spelled fut b o l.
Some people call it soccer, some people call it football.
It's time Chris purfets World of Soccer.

Speaker 9 (02:21:39):
The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum.

Speaker 1 (02:21:52):
Him.

Speaker 3 (02:21:55):
It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

Speaker 10 (02:21:59):
It's a brand new year, Bernie and the World of
Soccer thunders along.

Speaker 1 (02:22:02):
Let's talk a little bit about Italy.

Speaker 10 (02:22:05):
I have some English news to talk about in regards
and penalties, but we haven't actually talked about the Siria
so far this season. If we take a look at
the table, as we are now around the halfway point
for that season, Napoli standing at the top at with
forty four points, three clear of number two, which is Adalanta,
which is a very refreshing look. Adelanta has been kicking

(02:22:27):
around for about five six years or so as this
very feisty, up and coming, very high powered offense team.
But Napoli, you'll remember, after I believe they won the
Scudetto in twenty twenty three, I had some concerns about
whether Napoli would be able to keep up this production.
It was their first Siia title since the nineties, since Maradona,

(02:22:48):
and I wondered how many of their stars would really
get poached, because that was really the life of a
club like Napoli was to see a lot of their
stars end up having to be sold off for parts
that not only didn't happen on a large but it
also meant that they've not only kept Kevich, Cavarccellia or
as I prefer, Kavaradona, but you've also picked up Romelo
Lukaku as a bit of a reclamation project.

Speaker 1 (02:23:10):
His time at Chelsea.

Speaker 10 (02:23:11):
Didn't go well and after two loans, he found himself
transferring to Napoli, and he is your goal leader right
now with six goals for the club, and it's it's
a reminder that sometimes maybe not all everything is at
the mercy of the biggest club stylet there. Of course,
we're at the halfway point and Syria is notoriously volatile.

(02:23:32):
Let's just say Internazionale is in that mix. They're at
third with forty points, Lazio, who's always been the bridesmaid,
never the brides at thirty five and holding up the
back here as Juventus and Fiorentina, and maybe a little
bit of a long shot for Bologna and Milan, but
Milan has definitely taken a step back this year, to
be quite sure. Lazio is a very interesting one. They're

(02:23:53):
playing the Rome Derby here coming up on Sunday against
as Roma, who is a middle team at this point.
The bottom's really fallen off for Roma after a few
just egregious management decisions all around. However, Roma has been feisty.
We did met they pulled out a magical one to
one draw against Milan, who we just mentioned last week,

(02:24:17):
and this is a match that goes down in history,
is one of the feistiest in in Italy. The Roma
Derby is not one to miss. It's a picture that's
still developing. We'll be sure to check in Onnopoly as well.
Because it is a historical club, it is a very
passionate club and their continued access is fun to see
and the pressure from other clubs like Milan makes this

(02:24:40):
all interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:24:41):
Well.

Speaker 10 (02:24:41):
I don't think Milan really has a chance to take
the scudetto this year. They do, at the very least
have a chance to try to salvage some pride and
still play for Europe. And if the rumors are to
believe they are trying to target Marcus Rashford of Manchester United, however,
his price would be a bit of a concern for
Milan but something to keep an eye on, and as
the transfer window in January has indeed opened. But in

(02:25:04):
another race, Ernie, let's turn our attention to England. Liverpool
is playing man You on Sunday. They are five points
clear of Arsenal in second place, and with a win
over the Red Devils could be eight points clear at
this halfway point in the season. But part of that
help came with a very interesting officiating call as Arsenal

(02:25:27):
drew one one level draw with Brighton and Hove Albion. Now,
Arsenal had taking a very early lead in this game,
but around the sixty first minute there was a collision
of heads between William Saliba and Wollo Pedro and this
was called a penalty on Saliba for a headbutt, while

(02:25:47):
Pedro was able to take the penalty shot and drew
level and that was the game. There's been a lot
of mixed reactions to this right now. There's a lot
of fans who believe this was an accidental head butt.
A lot of Arsenal fans would love to say that
that was such the case that it was not intentional
at all, but it was called a penalty on the

(02:26:09):
field and var upheld it. It's a very odd decision.
It was both players challenging it for it with their heads.
It is what happens when a clash happens, and it's
not really intentional. In my book, I know that Mikhail
Arteta said he did not has seen anything like it.
I know that Gary Lineker, one of the great broadcasters

(02:26:29):
of soccer in England, was not happy about it and
thought that it was clearly being headed by Saliba, and
I I had never seen a penalty for head clashes either.

Speaker 2 (02:26:38):
Way.

Speaker 10 (02:26:39):
I think what has been highlighted in this entire episode
has been that Arsenal's defense has been rather chaotic and
they really put themselves in this position to get a
penalty called on someone like Saliba by really not being
that organized on their defense, and that's really where it starts.
It has to start with you have to really clean
this kind of stuff up, drawing contentious decisions that might

(02:27:02):
draw a penalty and open up opportunities for free goals
to the other club. That'll do it for us for now, Bernie,
we'll catch you next time on the World of Soccer.
We've gotten some mail from at least one person asking
me about my opinions on MLS. We'll try to address
that in the next episode.

Speaker 2 (02:27:18):
All right, Well, the MLS was really picking up a
lot of steam with you know, high bringing in some
tremendous foreign players over the past few years is Latime
and the guy who's tremendous and messy and I don't
know if I'm wondering if they've lost some of their
some of their momentum, but that's why we bring in

(02:27:40):
Chris Purfett's World of Soccer. Coming up, we wrap up
the Bernie Frattle Show, and uh, there going that man again,
Hall of Fame quarterback who may or may not be
playing his final game in the National Football League later
on this afternoon, but he he likes to talk. And

(02:28:05):
he said something this past Wednesday, which for me I
happen to find is perhaps one of his more outrageous statements.
And I mean that, and that says a hell of
a lot, because you know, trying to find his most
outrageous statement is like picking out your favorite noodl and

(02:28:27):
to play the spaghetti. But when you hear what I'm
about to share with you, You're going to really ask yourself,
is this guy for real? And I think you already
know the question, you know the answer. I'm Bernie friddlewic
kemedy lyon from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, tirerac dot
Com Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie
Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. Alrighty, we are wrapping

(02:28:48):
it up on the Bernie Fraddle Show. We are coming
alive from the tirerac dot Com studios here in Las Vegas,
Fox Sports Radio. Before I go any further to see
this morning wherever you may be, one thing, my broadcast
team they've been would be they're back in Los Angeles.
They've been with me since eleven pm Pacific time on

(02:29:11):
Saturday night. Of course, Mark and Shay guys turning all
the dials, keeping us glued together, keeping the train on
the tracks, jumping in on brand new fool and what
My Name, and generally participating in all the high jinks.
Greatly appreciate. It's a very underrated job what the producers

(02:29:33):
do for us. We would not be on the air
without them understanding the technology involved in the ability to
hit their marks and make it look simple. Radio is
not simple. Key is making it look simple, and that's
what these guys do. And you know, if you've ever
heard a good rock and roll band play, you're never
going to notice the drummer. He's keeping the beat unless
he gets out of step. These guys are like drummers

(02:29:55):
in a band. A great job. Always appreciate, appreciate our
producers very much much. All right, I don't mean to
pile on this guy, but maybe I do. I can
hold two thoughts concurrently, he's going to be a first
Battle Hall of Famer. And let's assume you are. Your

(02:30:16):
name is Aaron Rodgers, and what the hell. You spent
eighteen years with the Green Bay Packers, you won a
Super Bowl, you won MVP Awards, you were the toast
of the town. And you come to the New York Jets,
and hell, before the seats are even warm, the first debut,

(02:30:40):
with all the expectations in the world, you infamously Terrier
Achilles four snaps into the first regular season game, costing
you the entire twenty twenty three season in a very painful,
lengthy rehab. And then you return in twenty twenty four,
but you've not been good. You're averaging a very modest

(02:31:02):
two hundred and twenty five yard passing yards per game
in this man's NFL. You're throwing twenty four touchdown passes,
ten interceptions, plus your team's been plagued by off field drama,
very unflattering rumors, and then you know you had the
leaks coming out of the organization. Your coach gets fired,
your GM gets fired. You get to bring in all

(02:31:24):
the wide receivers you want, and you're blamed for a lot,
and you it sucked. This year sucked. And yet you
know what is what does Aaron Rodgers think? He is?
Bill Medley and dirty dancing. Oh oh the time. Oh
my look, come on, shut pour yourself a big glasses,

(02:31:44):
shut up schoos because Aaron Rodgers, it's my understanding. Total
Reporters Wednesday. Before I get to that, he says he
has no regrets about moving to play to New York. None. Okay, fair,
but he says he has quote nothing but quote gratitude, dude,
toward the Jets for bringing him in and letting him
play there for two years. And then he went even

(02:32:07):
further by saying this, wait for it, that New York
represented the best years of his life. I mean gratitude. Honestly,
it's been the best two years of my life. Roger said, dude,
just what the hell is your major malfunction you're gonna

(02:32:27):
tell You're going to expect us to buy this Michieg
gos that with everything that's happened, the embarrassment, the poor
play in the field, coaches losing their jobs, insult to injury, memes, punchlines,
rumors that press, you're gonna tell us in your twenty

(02:32:49):
years in the NFL, and before that, your time at
cal or Butte Community College, or even in high school,
even the time you went to Egypt, or did this
is the Hiahuasca? This is the best two years of
your life? You really expect us to buy that? Yeah,

(02:33:12):
I'm gonna go have to go ahead and disagree with
to their Bill Lumberg Now and why Rayna, I want
you to get those TPS reports for us. Look, I
get that the last couple of weeks Aaron Rodgers has
been you're regrading on the curve. He's played some of
the best football this season over the last couple of weeks.

(02:33:34):
But irrespective of whether or not Aaron Rodgers is being
utterly sincere about this being the best two years of
his life, I guess the real question is do the
Jets feel the same. I don't think the Jets have
changed their stance on Aaron Rodgers, who was again a
four time MVP in Green Bay. We actually won a

(02:33:56):
Super Bowl, But these are the best two years of
his life. Sounds to me like he's pining for another
bite at the apple, the big apple. Has he what
I did there? Wow? One more time? And I think
they're crazy if they run this back, even if you
don't have a plan B, He'll bring back Richard Todd.
Since the Jets fired Robert Sala and general manager Joe Douglas.

(02:34:18):
There's been this wide ranging belief that there was no
way Aaron Rodgers was going to be back right, and
that also counts for those who believe have interest in
the Jets opening at general manager. Right, the expectation is
that the Jets will in fact part raised with Aaron Rodgers,

(02:34:41):
and there are prospective GM candidates that do not believe
Woody Johnson, the owner, will make any mandates about Rogers,
but a new regime will likely want a fresh start
at the quarterback position. Now, just this last week against
the lowly Jacksonville Jaguars, Rodgers was sixteen to thirty for
two to eighty nine to three touchdowns. The interceptions well whooped,

(02:35:04):
damn do little too late? Jets are still four and
ten and can you imagine after everything? They won seven
games last year with Zach Wilson in company and Tim
Boyle and we were told all they needed as a quarterback,
and yet the Jets are four and ten and they're
going to be rebuilding again. Rogers just turned forty one.
He's clearly not the same player since you're turning from

(02:35:26):
his torn achilles. And how do the fans feel about
this Right after the Jets flew a fourth quarter leader
and lost to Miami last week, Garret Wilson suggested that
the team had some sort of losing gene built into
their DNA. Rogers was asked about Wilson's comments, and he agreed, quote,
there could be a curse hanging over the franchise, but

(02:35:49):
you're going to tell us. You're gonna tell us that
these are the best two years of your life. Now.
Many fans wasted no time in reacting to the Aaron
Rodgers comment because they jumped right on it and said, yeah,
we've got a damn Kurts all right, he named Aaron Rodgers.
One tweeter said, yeah, that curse is named Aaron Rodgers. Yeah.

(02:36:13):
Another tweeter said, that curse is named Aaron Rodgers. He's
old and he sucks, oh boy, but it's the best
two years of his life. Another tweeter said that man
doesn't own a mirror. Another tweeter said, well, that seems
like a perfinally, perfectly reasonable exploit. Okay, Bernie, last time

(02:36:34):
around a tone from that place, Well, that seems like
a perfectly reasonable explanation for his continuous failures. Look, Rogers
had designs of rescuing this torture franchise. Once said that
you know that Super Bowl trophies looking a little lonely,
will It's still lonely. And I don't think Jets fans
want to hear him talking about voodoo theories or talking

(02:36:58):
at all. The Jets have the longest active playoff drought
of any major US sports team, and Aaron Rodgers couldn't
fix it. But yeah, it's the best two years of
his life. Wonder if the Jets feel the same. Good night, folks,
you've been listening to the Bernie Frattle Show. Keep it
locked up next to great Andy Furman, Fox Sports Radio.

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