The Bernie Fratto Show talks WNBA Second Half of Season, Jerry Jones & MORE!

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of the hour. We're going to dive into this Jerry
Jones situation in Dallas. You may hate Jerry Jones, but
the NFL and Texas and the Cowboys would not be

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with the other day without him. I will fill in
the blanks on that one. You just sit right there.
Got some great Aaron Rogers stuff come up in about
fifteen minutes. The midnight hour will have two excellent topics
Breeze threes at one am. You like movies, we got
a good one tonight. And that's just a tip of
the iceberg. We have so much to get to, so

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little time. And oh, by the way, guess who's back.
Guess who's back. Guess what's back? Guess who's back? You know,
there's an old saying smooth sailing never made for a
skilled sailor, and perhaps the Indiana Fever and Caitlyn Clark
know that all too well. Who's back tonight? A very

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refreshed Caitlin Clark twenty nine points tennis is, five rebounds,
thirteen point win, the twelfth win already Now for the
Indiana Fever, I believe five of their last seven. They
only won thirteen games the entire last season, and let's
face it, the theme of the first half of the NBA,

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it's undeniable. The numbers don't lie the Caitlin Clark effect.
A league high two hundred thousand fans attended Fever games
this season or have attended Fever games this season. That's
up almost three from last year. They've won four their
last six. They're now in seventh place in the WNBA standings.
They're twelve and fifteen after starting one and six. They

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got a shout out the playoffs. Some only thirteen games
the entire last year. But according to a report released
the other day, the Fever tops in the league in
terms of social media engagement, video views. Followers gained total
followers in the two months between April fifteenth and July nineteenth,

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they beat any team in the WNBA and the NBA, NFL,
NHL in Major League Baseball and team produced video consumption.
This number knocked me over eight hundred million views. According
to the Indiana Fever, only enter Miami with Messi, the
MLS team performed better among US teams. The Fever, by

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the way, now have the league's most team sponsors. Recently,
Eli Lilly became the Indiana Fever's latest jersey patch in May.
And let's not forget in July's All Star Game, the
Fever had three stars on the team, Kelsey Mitchell, Elijah
Boston Caitlin Clark. They helped Team w NBA beat the

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twelve player US Olympic squad. You know how they always
say the Olympic squad is like seventy eight to one.
They always forget the game against the All Stars. They
All Stars beat him three years ago as well. By
the way, three and a half million people watched that game,
and of the nineteen games this year in the WNBA
where there have been at least a million watchers for
any reason, Caitlin Clark was a part of those games,

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seventeen out of nineteen. She's refreshed. She might not have
gone to Paris, but she hung out in New York,
got herself from swag Jersey, hung out with Derek Jeter
and the Yankees and even Aaron Boone, a guy I
know Villa Park High School. He admitted the Yankees were
starstruck being around her. So Clark's got thirteen games left

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tonight or left after the regular season. After Friday Night's game,
you know, they beat Dinah Trossi in the Phoenix Mercury,
I believe. Well, yeah, that was Friday night. It's Friday
here in Las Vegas. It's maybe Saturday year at work
with me here, I'm new at this. Sunday, the Fever
will play the Seattle Storm, and of course that's a
national TV game three point thirty Eastern on ABC. Wats

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the stands. You'll see lots of Caitlin Clark jerseys in
the stands for those games. There's only been a twelve
hundred percent increase in uniform sales over the year. So
and by the way, we know because Kelsey Plumps told
us many times, WNBA players are generally not compensated for
those purchases. But that's a conversation for a different day,

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all right. So the truth of the matter is, if
Caitlin Clark can keep up around court play, she leads
the league with almost nine uses per game, she might
earn more. And you know she got a spot. If
she gets a spot on the All WNBA Rookie team,
that's a whopping fifteen hundred dollars bonus, Rookie of the
Year fifty one hundred dollars bonus. Do I expect her

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to win both of those awards? Yes? I do. I'm
not gonna make my case now. I can make a
Perry Mason case, believe me. But people's minds are made up.
The people that don't believe it don't want to hear it.
Doesn't matter. We'll see what happens at the end of
the year. We're also going to see what happens now
coming up. And where am I going with this? Clearly,
the WNBA had a lot of momentum, all kinds of

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viyeballs like never before. I've just given you the numbers.
They had just had a month off now and I'm
not sure whether or not the USA women's team winning
the gold medal being franced by a point is gonna
help boost the NBA. I don't know. The ratings for
the gold medal game weren't that impressive. Yeah, there were
seven million people who watched. That sounds like a lot,

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because it is a lot. It's sort of But that
same number tuned in, exact same number tuned in back
in twenty twenty one, and they won the gold that
year the women did. None of that carried over to
the WNBA. If anything, the fact that the Olympic Gold
Medal Game failed to draw more viewers than the latest
All Star Game or the latest Olympics in three years ago,

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I think might not be a great sign for the league.
Some Americans might have lost interest in the month off.
And again this is research, this is not bespotting my opinion.
They haven't seen Caitlin Clark play a month and we'll
see where this goes. There are those who argue that
not having her own team USA cost massive viewership numbers.

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That's something we'll never know. I told you I was
okay with her not being picked on the roster in
her rookie season, and if it can happen to Barkley,
if it can Achonizeiah Thomas, look onward and upward. It'll
be the last time that happens. Most likely, people are
going to tune in for Caitlin Clark, just like they
did when she played in college, just like they did
from the minute she joined the WNBA, getting slammed in

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the back, ripped to shreds. She's risen above through it all.
Like I said, a smooth sailing never made for a
skilled sailor. Here's the deal, here's the big butt peewee.
We might have a problem, Houston. This is gonna be
the first time Kitlyn Clark and the WNBA is going

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up against football in a battle for media attention and viewership.
So the real question is going to be what's gonna
happen now over the next few weeks. Remember the regular
season is going to run through September twentieth, and then
the playoffs will begin. They'll run a full month or
check that. The regular season will go through September twenty second,

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and then the playoffs will begin, and the playoffs could
go as long as October twentieth. That's a bit of
time that puts us all the way up to Week
seven in the NFL. That's almost halfway through the season.
The NFL is undefeated, you say, from five times undefeated, Well,
the NFL's undefeated, you don't go up against them. So

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it's going to be interesting to see what happens now
as the WNBA has to go up against the NFL,
and not just the NFL, college football as well. Week
zero is a week away and then we've got a
you know, jam pack Labor Day weekend full of games,
all kinds of stuff. The storylines have bound the new conferences,

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whatever it may be. We will see if the WNBA
can sustain their momentum going up against the NFL and
of course college football as well, something we're probably gonna
delve into later. Might want to get your thoughts on that,
because this is a topic. This is a topic. You
can't climb two mountains at the same time. And you

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know I mentioned the NBA Final. The WNBA final game
could be as late as Sunday, October twentieth. There's a
lot of good matchups at that including Raiders Chiefs. So yeah,
grab your popcorn because you will have some choices and
the question will be what choices will you make? By

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Orange County area. He works with Olympians, NFL players, college players.
You may recall I had dog Nan right after the
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Then we talked about Aaron Rodgers and his road to recovery. Well,
fast forward, we are here. The moment of truth is
upon us and Aaron Rodgers will be taking the field

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here shortly. What can we look forward to? What are
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We are coming to Lion from the Tarak dot Com
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two in Pacific five I in Eastern. Just getting started.
It's welcome in a gentleman. You've heard him on my
show before, right after the DeMar Hamlin injury on Monday
Night Football. He correctly pointed out it was commercial. Kartis

(12:00):
had him on regarding the Aaron Rodgers injury when it
first happened, talked about the road to recovery. Well, the
moment of truth is here. This gentleman. He's a very
prominent trainer and chiropractor in the Orange Connie Area's worked
with Olympians, NFL players, college players, and I'm proud to
be his friend for a long time. Former high school
football buddy Doug Anderson. Doug really appreciates you coming on

(12:21):
to night, Bud good I mean by so, let's dive
right in the future always has a way of arriving
ahead of schedule. Aaron Rodgers is taking the field. Let's
talk about his recovery and how that's going to translate
to actual bullet flying in full speed in the National
Football League, So we.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
Know that when someone calls to Chili, that's a major,
major injury because chilly structure is a big time and
in the NFL, we also know that when it happens
to players over thirty, their chance were about thirty percent
of ends their career. But when you're looking at studies
about NFL players, you have to kind of pull the

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quarterbacks out because it's so different. So I looking at
the quarterbacks, it was a pretty small sample size. I
tried to find some guys that were over thirty that
had been starters for over a decade, that had had
this procedure and how they did when they came back.
It's a pretty short list. In fact, two of the
four on that list are still in the covery right now,

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which is Kirk Cousins and Aaron Rogers. But the other
two are Dan Marino and Vinnie Tester Vernet, and both
you know Dan Marino exactly. His injury was so bad
he didn't even fully recover. If you look at pictures
of Marino after he had his achilles, look at his feet.
You'll see that his right foot that he wears a

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different shoe than his left foot because his achilles was elongated.
He could never stand on his tiptoe after that, and
he still had four or five really good years.

Speaker 7 (13:57):
In fact that two.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
Years after his injury, he you know, he made the
Pro Bowl. Now he was younger, he was only thirty
two and Rogers was forty. But he was an old
thirty two because Marino had had already had five knee surgeries,
so we know his connective issue wasn't as good. You
know Rogers' injuries. You know what happens to Rogers is

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he just gets fractures. Right, he had the broken foot,
he had the broken thumb, he had both color books
were fractures. But he's never really had, you know, many cares.
So I'm thinking that that he's probably gonna do fine.
If he doesn't do well this year, my guess would
be it's gonna because of some other injury. It's not
going to be from the achilles.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
All right, good stuff, Doug. So I wanted to talk
about that because the earlier athletes you mentioned, and even
including Kobe Bryant, et cetera, were definitely under forty and
because you do this for a living, talk about the
elasticity of an athlete between thirty and forty. That's that
ten years is a long time and a.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
Lot of wear and here that you know, you're right,
that is a long time. And so and we and
look at we don't know. For example, you know if
you already had ten to ninus or ten to nosis
and just to kind of take a step back, so
you know, a ten denius would be it. You just
imagine a leather belt and let's just and then and
then scratch that leather belt. You know, have your wife

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or girlfriend with fiper nails. Scratch that leather belt. That
is tendonitis. Okay, ten to noses would be taking a
nail and put and make a little sole in that
leather belt. And then we're going to have and then
when you have Anchili's rupture, it could be partial which
you cut part of the belt, or you could have
a complete rupture you cut the belt in half. And

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when you cut that belt and have a compete rupture.
There can also be different grades. There can be if
it's only like the one inch apart, we call it
a grade two. If it's like two inches apart it's
a grade three and if it's over to it's a
grade four. We do not have that information, so I
don't know how this year Aaron Rodgers chair was. We
also know that, you know, unlike Testa, Veriti and Marino,

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the procedure that Rogers had was, you know, with more advanced.
He had that rip stop speed bridge surgery, which is
supposed to be better and gets you better faster. And
as we know he was, he wanted to actually come
back last year, and I think that would have been
way too risky. So and any of that t that
of surgery knows. Look at you're gonna you feel better

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for three or four months later, but compare that three
or four months later to a year, and you're going
to realize, oh yeah, I feel a lot better year later.
So now it's been a year, so I think he's
going to be fine.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Talking with Doug Anderson prominent trainer Colin Practor in Orange County,
which for the Olympians works with NFL players college players.
So it's one thing to get back on the field
for Aaron Rodgers. Doug, what about his level of production?
I mean, you played football, Doug. His mobility, his ability
to roll out, his ability to keep plays alive with

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his feet. Do you expect his per production and his
ability to move when he needs to maneuver the pocket
to suffer? How do you expect that part to recover?

Speaker 6 (17:10):
Well, I think he's going to be fine, Bertie. Again,
I went and went back to the stats and looked
at things, and you know, for example, you know, now
Tom Brady didn't have a chiliad injury, but still really
just you know, from at a from age at age thirty,
age forty three and forty four, Brady had two of

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his best years as far as if you're looking at
passer rating, Brent Barbe's highest year highest passer rating was
his age forty season. So I think, you know, I
think Rogers is going to be fine again. Now, remember
Brent barr played three hundred games. Brady played three hundred
and thirty five games. Rogers only played two hundred and

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thirty one games. So even though he's had nineteen or
eighteen nineteen years, you know, again he hasn't had as
much mileage. So I again, I am thinking he's going
to be fine. Tessa Verdi, By the way he tore
his at age thirty six, and if you remember he
played until he was forty four, this passer rating before
the chair was a seventy five, and this passer rating

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for the eight seasons after the tear went all the
way down to seventy four.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Talking with Doug Anderson, prominent trainer in Orange County, Doug
Aaron Rodgers obviously does not lack for confidence. So I
would believe his mental outlook and the mental aspect of
his healing is probably very good. However, that first time
he's over center or he's in the shotgun and he's
got guys bearing down on him, you know, how long
does it take before the mental aspect of that fear

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or maybe not fears not the right word, of the
holding mental pictures of what you don't want to happen.
I've talked to people that have talked to him and
he says, Hey, the main thing is I don't want
this to happen again. How long before that gets out
of his mind and he can just play football?

Speaker 6 (18:56):
You know that's going to be biochemical individual physiological individuality.
Everybody's a little bit different, right and we look and
we know, you know Rogers is especially in the last
few years, we know he's a little bit of a
different guy. It's a little thing. Different things are coming out.
So you know, I'm wondering about like, you know, there
was just I think a book was published today, right,

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so you know, and we don't know how how that's
going to be on him. So you know, I'm we're
wondering about some of the outside pressures as well.

Speaker 8 (19:25):
You know.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
Ever since he was uh.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
You know, remember you know, he kind of took some
senior he took some gifts with the COVID thing, right,
you know, when he when he know, he wasn't square
with that. And of course what I find so ironic
is that you know, he's now playing you know, the
guys that oh his team were the or the grandsons
of Johnson.

Speaker 9 (19:42):
Johnson then had.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
One of those vaccines. So I think that the I
think that you know, he'll probably there's so much noise now,
I would think, you know, physical, you know, I would
think he's already been he's probably already gone through what
you're saying. Obviously, you know, we still have to have
some game type situations.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
But I.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
Read that he had a nice little comeback here in
a practice game. What a couple of days ago.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I heard, he's looked sensational, he's crisp, he's rested, and
the Jets haven't had that kind of level of quarterback play.
A guy that can play the position with his eyes
and get the ball out of his hands and be accurate.
He's still very athletic, no question. So that fact look at.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
Well, and this guy has been so so pick and
good that even if he was ten to fifty percent
not as good, he's still babbles than anybody else from
the planet. I mean, he has the highest passer rating
in NFL history. Now he is only a technic point
higher than that than that guy over there at Kansas City,
but you know he is I mean, what four hundred

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and seventy five touchdown passes only one hundred and five picks.
I mean that's just ridiculous. So you know, now there
is one thing that would I worry about, and that
is his sacks. I didn't realize how often he gets sacked.
In two hundred and thirty one games career games, he's
been sacked five hundred and thirty one times. I'm sure
that the coaches have already Daniel that we've that's got

(21:01):
to calm down. Just to give you a comparison, Jan Marino,
who had like basically no legs. He played two hundred
and forty two games, so eleven more than than Aaron Rodgers.
He was sacked two hundred and seventy times. You know,
Tom Brady was sacked more than Rogers five hundred and
sixty five times, but he also played three hundred and
thirty five games, so you know, thirty more sacks in

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one hundred more games. So Rogers is gonna That's the
one thing I think he's got to modify is that,
look at he's gonna have to get get get rid
of the ball a little bit sooner and not take
some of the sacks.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Last thing, Doug, we are in Vegas, so I've got
to ask the question, what probability would you give that
Aaron makes it through the season and into the playoffs,
assuming they just make the playoffs without sustaining any kind
of you know, re injury or some other type of injury.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
I think it's good, especially because he didn't try to
come back last season, right he you know, they wouldn't
let him come back, so we waited the whole time.
And again, just let's look at the old guys who
had that happens. You know Dinny Tester Verdey, you know,
he came back and you know he didn't miss a
game the next year at age thirty seven, he played
all sixteen games. And same with Jan Rino at age

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you know he was now he was only thirty four,
I believe, but age thirty four or thirty five, he
played all sixteen games, and we're gonna played all sixteen
games and he just wasn't even fully prepared. So I
think he's going to be fine.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Doug, great stuff. My man appreciates you. We'll follow this
as the season goes and get you, get you back on.
We'll talk to soonent do you have the rest of
eating Bud?

Speaker 6 (22:34):
Take care for bie?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Is Doug Anderson you heard his thoughts very optimistic about
Aaron Rodgers and and Doug, Doug knows a thing or
two about this, and he played football as well as
one of our offensive linemen. So along on the short
of it is, I think he's Doug is drawing a
line of historical perspective going back in the day when
maybe even the surgeries weren't as advanced. So it's not

(22:57):
that Aaron Rodgers is having to reinvent the wheel here,
and I think it's a situation where he's likely to
return at the same level of play he was before
and likely to make it through the season. Let's see
how this plays out, because man, we're gonna be following it.
You know what else for following the Jerry Jones saga.
People can't keep the Dallas Cowboys out of their mouth.
And it's for the same reason every time coach isn't

(23:17):
getting paid. Coaches and lame duck see Lamb's not getting paid.
Although there's a rumor we'll get to later in the
Dallas Cowboys of ten and another offer Michael Parsons, Dak Prescott,
you get the drill. We're gonna get to all that
coming up, but first go to our guy, Kevin Figures
with the latest.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
All right, Bernie.

Speaker 10 (23:33):
In the Major League Baseball Friday night, the Dodgers picked
up a seven to six victory over the Cardinals in
Saint Louis behind a late three on home run from
Kevin Kiermeier. Colorado snapped the Padres three game wins streak
with a seven to three victory Tampa Bay, getting a
home run from Dylan Carlson and a five to four
win over Arizona, who's winning streak ended a six games.
A three run home run for William domins Helton Milwaukee

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defeat the Guardians five to three. Lewis Robert with two
home runs for the White Sox as they upset Houston
five to four, Strolls having their eight game win streak
snapped there. It was the Mets seven and the Marlins three.
Aaron Judge his major league leading forty fourth home run
as the Yankees defeated Detroit three nothing. Boston won a
twelve to ten shootout over Baltimore. Wins for the Twins, Royals,

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and Phillies, and the w NBA. Kaitlin Clark scored twenty
eight points in at ten assists in the Fevers win
over Phoenix. And golf second round at the FedEx Saint
Jude Championship, Dany McCarthy tied for the lead with Hideki Matsuyama.
Scottie Scheffler is two strokes off the lead. All right,
back to Bernie Freda.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
All right, thanks, Kevin, appreciate it, Bud. You know, Jerry Jones,
to say the least, is a very very polarizing figure.
Most people have a strong opinion one way or the other.
They love him, they hate him. The opposite of love
is not hate. The opposite of love is indifference. You
have to have emotion invested to hate somebody. You may

(24:52):
hate Jerry Jones, but the NFL, the state of Texas,
certainly the Cowboys, well, they might not be where they
are today without him. Work with beyond this, because I'm
gonna unpack this. When Jerry bought the Cowboys back in
nineteen eighty nine, it was immediately clear he completely understood
the uniqueness of their brand, how they could be used

(25:15):
in sponsorships, and they continued creation and building of the
Cowboy branded business. He went through a ton of research.
He reached out to other owners and executives throughout the league.
He wanted to talk about franchise building. He understood television
business was expanding. The new networks would be a part
of growing the brand. He saw the value of state

(25:38):
of the art stadiums. He saw potential ancillary revenue streams.
Why do you think the NFL is an honest way
to being a twenty five billion dollar business. It's the
vision of people like Jerry Jones, and he's one of
the most popular owners, believe it or not, because of
what he's done for the league. And one of the
first things he did was signed Troy Aikman, all right,

(25:58):
and yes they remade franchise. I know he had the
thing with em and Smith. Emmitt Smith won that battle
after going zero two and the Cowboys come back and
win the Super Bowl that he In fact, they won
three in ninety three, ninety four, and ninety six. And
then Jerry helped fight for a more vigorous television strategy
for the league. You know, back in you know, before
Jerry bought the team, each each NFL franchise got about

(26:22):
two million per year and now and Jerry grew that,
helped grow that to seventeen million. And then obviously television
money is exploded all right again. By buying the Cowboys
in nineteen eighty nine, it gave Jerry a point of
entry in the world of sports. He has exploited that, yes,
a lot of it for personal wealth, but he's also

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changed the sport to fit the ambitions of the sport. Bigger, bigger, better, better,
endless profits. And by the way, if you've ever if
you spend any time in Texas, I've spent a lot
of time there. Start with just North Texas in the
early nineties. Everybody was broke, buildings were half empty, construction
was stopped, Jerry said the day FIFA announced it awarded

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the AT and T Stadium nine matches for the twenty
twenty six World Cup. That never would have happened in
the nineties. Right, all right, here comes a big bud
pee wee. We know that Jerry Jones and his team
has not reached a conference title game in more than
twenty years, let alone a Super Bowl. But according to Sportico,

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the Cowboys are the most valuable franchise in North America,
valued at nine point six billion dollars. Imagine what that
might be worth if they won playoff games. Used Jerry's
arrival to the Cowboys in February of eighty nine, and
the growth rate of the NFL and all of sports
his contribution in his involvement has far exceeded the pace

(27:47):
of virtually any business anywhere. Yes, he did benefit from
the explosion of cable television, but Jerry had He's a wildcatter.
He's an oil wildcatter by trade. He's a gambler. He
talked about how scared he was when he built that stadium,
Jerry world because he has to keep it filled two
hundred and fifty ninths a year or he loses. But well,

(28:09):
they've managed to do it all right. Jerry turns eighty
two in two months, and ye slowed down a little
bit compared to when he bought the team, but his
Cowboys and his influence on the Cowboys and the NFL
in the state of Texas are still very significant. You
can't stop talking about Jerry Jones. You can't stop taking
shots at Jerry Jones. Look, a lot of it's grand standing.

(28:30):
I don't know why people care so much. Yeah, he
waits too long to pay his players. In case you
haven't noticed that, Jerry is a control freak in a
big way. His first forty eight of this was back
in nineteen ninety three when Emmitt Smith sat out the
Cowboys started zing two, and Jerry kept saying, this is
what we've budgeted for the running back position, and to

(28:53):
take it or leave it. Emittt. Well, Emmett left it.
He says, I'll retire. Emmett won that battle. Emmittt got
his money, The Cowboys got their Super Bowl. A matter
of fact, they got two more of them. We always
know Jerry waits too long. He pays a price to
be in control. Guess who benefits the players. They get
more than they would have gotten in the first place.
And to the people out there with a fake outer age,
I ask you, why do you care? Why do you care?

(29:16):
It's Jerry's team. Here's the thing. And I know I'm
repeating myself, all right, keep one thing in mind. Also,
during Jerry Jones' tenure, and this is the part I
think that rankles people, he's had eight different head coaches,
but he's also drafted five Hall of Fame players and
built the state of the art stadium the Cowboys currently

(29:39):
and they've been Forbes Most Valuable team since two thousand
and nine. Not to mention, yes, they did win three championships.
Jerry bought the team for I think one hundred and
fifty million dollars thirty six years ago. Now it's worth
nine billion. So you got a problem with how Jerry
runs his franchise. That's a u problem. As an owner,
he does an excellent job. Again, here's the big butt

(30:01):
pee wee. It's his executive role that causes people heartburn.
People don't like Jerry as a GM. I'm talking about
this because I was in Milwaukee all week heard a
couple of fine young gentlemen talking about Jerry and one
kid I don't even know if he could spell it. Actually,
the guys did a nice job. I'm not gonna give
their names. He says, Ah, Jerry Jones is the worst

(30:22):
dartar in sports. Come on hockey and you say that,
you're talking out your tookus. Man. You need to lie
down and get yourself a cool compress, some more milk
and soft music. Hope it goes away. Translation, you hate
Jerry Jones for your own reasons. He's in a front
to you, he's he's in enough money. You look those
words up. You don't like him. You don't like him, Fine,
that's what your speech should be. You hate him. You

(30:42):
don't even have to give a reason you hate him.
I told you he's polarizing. But to apply as a
bad owner, I'm not buying that. He's about to give
a guy who goes two and five in the playoffs
and can't find his butt with both hands, and that's
just the regular season sixty million dollars. Does he deserve it?

Speaker 6 (30:57):
No?

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Has he earned it? Hell? No? A good player. Yeah,
they don't want to go back to the Quincy Carter,
Drew Henson era. But the bottom line is Jerry Jones
ain't perfect. When you find that owner, they can build
a state of the art stadium, health the NFL to
a twenty five billion dollar league and win a Super
Bowl every year and be nice and you know, and
not be as as omnipresident. Let me know, let me know.

(31:20):
When you find that perfect person, we'll have him on
the air. Jerry perfect, far from very interesting Guy'll I
remember the day him and Jimmy Johnson part of ways
I go. These guys got to be idiots, not Jimmie Jerry.
And it was Jerry's fault, he said at a banquet
a year before. All fifty guys could have coached that
team that got back to Jimmy. Not good. Jerry wants
to be the star. Jerry wants to be the chief

(31:43):
cook and bottle washer, the president, GM head coach, and
he is. It's good to be the king, mel Brooks. Look,
I get it. People like Jerry Jones. People don't like
Jerry Jones. And you got a situation. I heard there's
this narrative rotating through the radio. I don't know who
started who started it or I would give that person credit. Unfrankly,

(32:04):
I think it was someone at ESPN. They mentioned something
about the fact that if Jerry could make a Faustian
deal whereby his team could win a Super Bowl this
year and next year, but he could never go on
a radio show, could never hold a press conference, never
be in front of a TV camera. Again, he wouldn't
take that deal. He has the psychic medalamaniacal lead need

(32:28):
to be the front center of attention. So there's you're
Jerry Jones guy. That is going to be the theme
of one of our subjects tonight. On the Midnight Hour,
Bree will take your calls on twenty minutes from where
I sit. In twenty minutes, it is the midnight hour
literally here in Las Vegas, twelve midnight on Friday, heading
into Saturday. From where you sit, it may also be

(32:50):
the midnight hour, but figurably it is the midnight hour.
That's when we take your calls. We have some of
the great conversations, and the truth of the matter is
the best of the boring conversations are when people just agree.
I really want to hear your thoughts. I expect this
to be spirited. So question one, Jerry Jones, Okay, do
you like him? Do you hate him? Is he a
good owner, a bad owner, a good GM, a bad GAM?

(33:12):
Do you root for him to win or root for
him to lose? You talked about whether or not the
Cowboys were America's team several weeks ago. Man, we got pounded.
It was great And the truth of the matter is
whether you think they are or they aren't. More people
watched Cowboys games last year than any other NFL franchise.
It then includes more than the Kansas City Chiefs, who

(33:32):
were a distance second those. There gotta be a reason
for that. Got to be a reason for that, right,
So look, Jerry Jones, we want to hear from you
eight seven, seven, nine to nine on Fox eight seven, seven,
nine nine, six sixty three, six y nine, but you'll
take your calls. Do you like Jerry Jones? Do you
dislike him? Good owner, bat owner, good GM, bad GM?
Do you root for him or root against him? Part

(33:54):
B of the Midnight Hour because we always have two parts,
all right. The w NBA is back. It was actually
back Thursday, Big Game Friday Night. Kitlyn Clark twenty nine points,
ten rebounds. They in the nfever becoming an item when
five of the last seven they've won their twelfth game.
Now they only win thirteen all last year. But guess
what they get to compete against the NFL and college football.

(34:16):
The regular season goes through September twenty second, the playoffs
go through October twentieth. That's Week seven in the NFL.
You're in the thick of the season. Can the WNBA
sustain the momentum they had with the competition they're gonna
have for the fans eyeballs going up against the NFL,
certainly and against college basketball? Will you watch? Will you

(34:37):
watch because you love the WNBA? Where you watch because
of Kitlyn Clark? Or will you say I've had enough
been a month I'm seeing Caitlin Clark. You know, Mitch
me with that, I'm gonna watch your Raiders, Chiefs. We
want to find out your thoughts. Can the w NBA survive?
Speaking of Jerry Jones, there is a light at the
end of the tunnel, apparently, and it might not be

(34:57):
an oncoming train. There are only twenty three three days
between today and the NFL's first regular season twenty twenty
four game that was clunky. Try that again. There are
only twenty three days between today and the NFL's first
regular season twenty twenty four. On these lead games that
was better. Lots of good matchups, including Dallas in Cleveland

(35:18):
Week one, which is going to be a doozy. So
I think Dallas would really like to have Ceedee Lamb,
an All Pro receiver, led the NFL in catches last year,
second and receiving yards, third touchdowns. He's breaking Michael Irvin's records.
Wants to get paid. We'll tell you what the latest
news is on that. Make no mistake, Ceedee Lamb's going

(35:38):
to be their Week one. We do this kabuki dance
every year and Jerry Jones always ends up overpaying his
guys and they always end up, you know, screwing the
pooch in the playoffs. Just watch, it's gonna happen again.
It's like Groundhog Day with Bill Murray. All right, I'm
Bernie Friday. We are company line from the Las Vegas
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Ten minutes the midnight hour. We'll be taking your calls.
Folks are starting to line up all good, but we'll
start taking the calls at twelve midnight. The two topics
Jerry Jones, you like him, hate him? Good?

Speaker 6 (36:35):
Bad?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Good GM, bad GM, good owner, bad owner, good for football,
bad for football? Do you root for them? Or do
you root against them? All that, and then of course
the WNBA is back. They have tremendous momentum, the Caitlin
Clark effect, but they're gonna be competing against the NFL
and college football. It's a horts of a different color.
So will you continue to watch? Do you care? Do

(36:57):
you believe that's gonna curtail it momentum? All right, so
we all know it's been heard and repeated a thousand
times that Jerry Jones made the statement a few weeks
back that he did not have a sense of urgency
to rush to get Ceedee Lamb's deal done. I think
he said it about a week ago, but it's possible

(37:18):
he might be softening his stance. The Dallas Morning News
is reporting that Lamb's represent representation team and the front
office group of the Dallas Cowboys spoke on the phone Thursday.
The Cowboys are by the way, they're in Vegas. They
play the Raiders later to night Saturday night in their

(37:38):
second preseason game, and apparently both sides are now efforting
more vigorously to get to steal done. And per the
Dallas Morning News reporting, the Cowboys have offered Cede Lamb
slightly under thirty three million dollars per season. Now, that
number would actually put ced Lamb in the position to

(38:03):
make him the second highest paid receiver in the NFL
on an average per year salary basis, just ahead of
aj Brown who's at thirty two million, but just behind
Justin Jefferson, who's at thirty five million ap Y. Now,
Stephen Jones, the CEO of the Cowboys, the CEO of
the Cowboys, said that both Lamb and Michael Parsons wanted

(38:26):
to be the NFL's highest paid non quarterback transit translation,
to be paid more than Justin Jefferson. Maybe Cedee Lamb
is also softening his position on that just a bit. Remember,
Justin Jefferson just signed a four year, one hundred and
forty million dollar deal one hundred and ten million in
guaranteed money, the second highest paid non quarterback. That's Nick

(38:50):
Boseo's the highest paid non quarterback. He got a five year,
one hundred and seventy million dollars deal with one hundred
and twenty two million in guaranteed money. Even though ced
lam has missed all this time when he could have
been working on timing with his teammates, Mike McCarthy said,
he's not worried. He just whenever the contract gets resolved,

(39:10):
CD will be there. He'll be ready to go. He'll
be great once he gets here. He's in the middle
of a business situation. It's like whatever happens in fight
club stays and fight club. McArthur, you know, I don't
dislike you. I just would never want you to be
my coach. And I spent a fair amount of time
in Green Bay. The city and the stadium had full
access on Wednesday, and they like Mike McCarthy and Green Bay.

(39:33):
He left a good He left a good impression there.
They like dealing with him, they liked him as a person,
et cetera. But it ain't working out so much for
the Cowboys. Well maybe the regular season. And what's McCarthy's
supposed to say, Although it's stupid, Ceedee Lamb, I wish
you'd get here and get back to work. He's screwing
things up for as long as I gotta say that,
all right? The bottom line is and and oh, by
the way, Michael Parsons, he expressed quote supreme confidence that

(39:58):
Lamb will be there week one. I say so too.
There's a lot of blather. These guys don't want to
miss game checks. Game checks are a lot. So there
is a light at the end of the tunnel. And
I do think Ceedee Lamb will be back and they
should get this thing worked out in the next ten days.
All right? Coming up? Do you like her? Hey, Jerry Jones,
he's a good or bath for the NFL. You get
the drill the WNBA, you're gonna watch it? Or now

(40:19):
that it's up against the NFL, do they lose all
that momentum and the Caitlyn Clark effect that was built
up the first sixty days of the season. Eight seven seven,
nine to nine on Fox will take your calls. Keep
it locked right here. It's the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox
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buying should be. Dial them up. Eight seven seven nine
nine six six three six nine eight seven seven ninety nine.
On Fox, we're talking about Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys.
They're in the news every day because players haven't gotten
paid the amount they want and the timeframe they got it.
It's old news. Jerry Jones. You like him, you hate him?

(41:23):
Do you root former against him? Is he good for
the NFL? Bad for the NFL? Good owner, bad owner?
Good GM, bad GM. You know where we're going with
this and the NBA. The WNBA return Thursday. Caitlin Clark
returned Friday twenty nine points ten assists. Here come the
Indiana Fever. But will you be watching the NFL starts shortly.
The WNBA season will extend into October. Will they lose

(41:46):
that momentum going up against football? We want to hear
from you. Yes, it is the midnight hour.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
It's right now, the midnight hour.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
All right? You know what to do the most boring
conversations when everybody agrees, So let's let it rip. Let's
start with Andre in Massachusetts. You're a first welcome in Andre.
How are you?

Speaker 11 (42:15):
How you doing? Vernie? Thanks for taking the call. Listen,
I can't stand Jerry Jones as a general man as
you're based on the fact that not only has the
run franchise into the ground, so to speak. And I'm
going to preface that based on Listen, the Dallas Cowboys
couldn't should be the new England Patriots based on what
they had going in the mid nineties. There's no reason
why they couldn't have won five, six to seven championships

(42:38):
under the capable leadership of Jimmy Johnson, who started from
scratch with that team right one to fifteen. Then he
had to go get his guys from the U build
that roster up.

Speaker 12 (42:47):
And Jimmy Jones is a lot.

Speaker 11 (42:49):
Like Bill Belichick, right, one of these lifer, pride and
true head coaches. So Jerry Jones had his four star
general who was ready to lead that franchise two decades
of success. What doesn't he have that that Robert Kraft
does have. And by the way, you can throw Jerry
bust in this conversation as well. Okay, Robert Craft and
Jerry Busch, they knew they were the man in these

(43:13):
you know, did Jerry bus with the Lakers? Obviously the
Hollywood you know? But Robert Kraft, you know, he likes
to go out and be in the spotlight and all
the rest of that stuff and be around the celebrities.

Speaker 13 (43:21):
But he knows he's the you.

Speaker 11 (43:22):
Know, the biggest man in the event, you know, when
it's all said and done. But he doesn't need everybody
else to know it. And that's why I can't stand
Jerry Jones as a general manager, because he has to
be the mice master ceremonies in every single room, has
to feel like the smartest guy in the room wherever
he is, and that has been absolutely talking for the
Dallas Cowboys franchise.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Now you're not around hold that thought. And let's give
him credit for the herschel Walker trade too, that helped
build the foundation of the franchise. You're not wrong. He's
an egomaniac and all he played football at Arkansas was
on a national championship team. I can't really say random
unto the ground. They're not winning, but they're worth four
point four billion. Continue on Andre in a role.

Speaker 11 (44:00):
Okay, so so Bernie, that's the second part. Jerry Jones,
the owner. I have all the respect in the world
for him in terms of his business savvy. The fact
of the matter is, and I can't wrap my round
my mind around this, how crazy people are in Texas
or the game of football. Yet they put up with
how awful Jerry Jones is as a general manager, but

(44:21):
they continue to support the Cowboys because they can't help
themselves as a brand. And he's the he presides over
the most profitable sports franchise on the face of the earth.
So how he's able to wed those two things together? Like,
for instance, the fans in New York wouldn't have stood
for this with Steinbrend. They would have run his behind out.
You know, if he didn't. Finally, but what did George

(44:41):
Steinbroner do? I know you got other calls. Let me conclude,
when George Steinberner took a step back after the scandal,
that's when the Yankee started winning because he let his
baseball people do what they needed to do. Jerry Jones
has never done that, and so but but the fans
still support him nonetheless. In conclusion, I'm a basketball guy,
so I'm loving what Kaitlin Clark is doing. Real basketball

(45:01):
fans supports the WNBA, There's no two ways about it.
You see Lebron and all the NBA stars at the game,
so we're always going to support. It's a great product
and just see the game grow up more and more. Brace,
thanks so much for taking the call.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
A good job, Andrea, don't be a stranger, my man. Great,
great job. A couple things. And I want to remind everybody,
and it's okay. How you feel is how you feel.
There are objective truths or our personal feelings. Jerry Jones
is in the Hall of Fame. His franchise is worth
four point four bian dollars. Each franchiseee now receives a
television revenue check for two hundred and forty four million

(45:35):
dollars annually. The NFL dominates television ratings, and Jerry, he's
built this team in the mold of ones that won
Super Bowls, monster offensive line, talented running back, talented wide receivers,
potentially a great quarterback, aggressive punishing defense, and they suck
in the playoffs. I don't know I can pin out
on Jerry Andre really really good points. Thanks jam in Massachusetts.

(45:58):
Good evening, buddy. How are you? How are you doing?

Speaker 14 (46:01):
Bernie on full disclosure, I'm a Giants, New York Giants
man football. You know, I started out. I started out
not liking Jerry Jones. You know what he did bandry
and text Stram and then you know, no time moves
on and he's good for the NFL. You know, he's
good for Texas. He's good for the Cowboys. Everything he's done. Now,

(46:22):
he may not be the greatest thing and interpersonal communication,
you know, but I think he's good for the league
and he's done a good job down there. I mean,
look what he turned the franchise into.

Speaker 11 (46:33):
You know.

Speaker 14 (46:33):
So you know he's a character. But you know, I've
grown to he's in a quiet taste.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
You know, that's a well, a good way putting right now.
It's a good way of putting it. The WNBA is back.
Are they going to suffer heading up against the NFL?
You continue to watch your thoughts.

Speaker 14 (46:50):
I don't think that they're gonna suffer. I mean myself,
I'll be flicking back and forth. That's what a remote
control's for, you know, So I'll be flicking back and forth.
But I'm telling you that girl is a once and
a lifetime thing, you know, just like Jordan was to
the NBA. And I think she's going to take that
league on her shoulders, and they better not screw it

(47:11):
up because I think they can go into the stratosphere
with her, and I think her numbers are just going
to explode. She'll have a great playoffs because now she's rested.
You know, she didn't go and be with that clown
team that almost lost it at the Olympic. She's rested now,
so now I think she's just going to turn it out. Bernie,
She's going to turn it out.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Jim, great calls. Always appreciate you, man, Thanks so much.
Andre and Jim. Pull it down from the Great Commonwealth
of Massachusetts. Wicked smart guys, here all right, Bruce and
Utah you are up next. Welcome in. How are you?
I'm good?

Speaker 15 (47:44):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I can hear you?

Speaker 16 (47:46):
Just find I'm a friend, okay, yeah, So okay, Ballard
back a little bit.

Speaker 15 (47:52):
When I was about.

Speaker 16 (47:53):
Eighteen nineteenth, well, all of my life up to that point,
I was a Dallas Tubs and then Jerry Jones acquired
the DLS Cowboys and he fired basically got rid of
Tom Lantry. And that's when you just said, that's a
little bit tired. But uh oh my god, the chach to. Yeah,

(48:20):
Tom Landry and then Danny White.

Speaker 15 (48:23):
Right, So I.

Speaker 16 (48:24):
Left and I went to Buffalo, and I said that
he's like base to an idiot, and yeah, there was
a better way to get rid of the guy. I'm
a hater.

Speaker 17 (48:39):
My son's a fans, but I am not. And I
want to go back if it's the when he retires or.

Speaker 16 (48:50):
Yes whatever.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Is tom is Jerry Jones good for the NFL or
bad for the NFL? Uh?

Speaker 15 (48:59):
I think he is bad? Actually good?

Speaker 16 (49:02):
Woah, okay, so stop it. So I mean money could
buy anything, right, so he's not really well, he got
the Hall of Paper draft. We're all out there and.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
He led the Dodgers.

Speaker 6 (49:18):
Was that.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Let's move on, my friend. I appreciate your thoughts on
the Cowboys, any thoughts on Caitlin Clark the WNBA as
they go up against the NFL in the next couple
of months. Will you continue to watch? Did you watch
in the first place? Do you think they lose the momentum?

Speaker 6 (49:33):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (49:34):
No, I will continue to watch. She is a phenomenon
and yeah, I want to see it.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Hey, Bruce, I appreciate your time to night, and I
appreciate your thoughts. Don't be a stranger, all right, And
just to set the record straight, look, Jerry Jones gets
a lot of blame and there are factions of people
that will never ever ever forgive him for firing Tom Landry.
Tom Landry, he was deified in Dallas for obvious reasons.

(50:03):
But I bet what if I told you that in
Tom Landry's last three seasons he was seven and nine,
seven and eight, and three and thirteen. Jerry Jones didn't
want to lose anymore. He had a decision to make
and guess what the change he made worked? Had they
continue to fail? Now, Jerry really screwed up with Jimmy
Johnson and that's the story for a different day. We'll

(50:24):
get into that, but look, you know, Babe Ruth died,
the game went on. Tom Landry did not have a
god given right to coach forever. And Jerry Jones he's
made the franchise incredibly successful financially, although not so much
on the field. But I'm not holding it against him
because he's knuckleheads, can't run a fourth down play with

(50:45):
games on the line, and daks two and five in
the playoffs. Those are just the facts. So you don't like,
it's not my problem. Rob in Michigan, you are up next?
How are you? Sir?

Speaker 8 (50:54):
Am I?

Speaker 18 (50:55):
You are on rob Okay, thank you.

Speaker 8 (50:58):
I'm not going to be as eloquoi as the first
couple of callers because that I don't have that kind
of words. But anyway, I grew up hating the Cowboys
because my one of my friends really loved him because
of Tom Landry and the the role he played standing

(51:21):
on the sidelines wearing his hat. But Jerry Jones is great,
love him or hate him, and I think he's just
like Tony Stark iron Man in the Avengers. No, I
mean he's a self created hero and whether you don't

(51:46):
like him or you do. He made himself and he
brought greatness and he can bring some ship to I'm sorry, god,
wrong words.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Move on to Caitlin Clark, my friend and the w
n B A uh, And there's the momentum they built.

Speaker 8 (52:06):
I don't think they're going to lose anything because they
started from round zero and she's really uh a thing
to watch and a reason to tune in. I've never
I never watched the w n B A before and
now I do.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
All right, I appreciate you checking in, And I Rob,
what part of Michigan from by the way, are you
still there? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (52:30):
Yeah, top of the top of the mint. Oh you're
a uper No, No, not not that tip of the mint.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Oh you're just below the What's city? What city?

Speaker 9 (52:43):
I did?

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Boy? Again? Okay? Boy can spell with a seed in Wisconsin?
Boy can spell with an S?

Speaker 8 (52:50):
All right? I got people and I got people in
both places.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
All right, buddy, Thanks Rob, appreciate you checking in. We'll
continue on James Manuel Huberto. You will be up next
as we continue with the Midnight Hour Jerry Jones. You
like him or hate him, good or bad for the NFL,
The WNBA is about to go up against the behemoth.
Will they lose momentum? Will you continue to watch for

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All right, back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio,
Come your Life. From the Tarack dot Com studios here
in Las Vegas. We're in the throes of another whopping
been that hour. We go back out to the phone lines.
We're joined by James in Los Angeles. James, you're up next.
Good evening.

Speaker 7 (54:42):
How are you, hey, Bernie?

Speaker 15 (54:43):
How you doing?

Speaker 8 (54:44):
Man?

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Good? Thank you? All right?

Speaker 19 (54:46):
I swear, and I know, like you said, you're I'm
fifty five, so I know you're older than me, and
I know you probably remember Jerry Jose reminds me of
Strother Martin from Cool Handloo.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Oh that's such a good movie.

Speaker 13 (55:01):
You don't need to communicate.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Hold on, by the way, you remember Strother Martin in
Slapshot too?

Speaker 13 (55:09):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
I'm a movie buff going back to the twenties, and
I guarantee I one old there. Okay, go ahead, my friend, Yeah,
you stay around for one o'clock. Bree does a great
job with Breeze threes. If you like movies, Oh.

Speaker 15 (55:21):
Great, great, that's cool.

Speaker 13 (55:23):
Yeah, he reminds me of that. But it's hard to
hate the guy because I'm a I'm a diehard Raider fan,
and he learned from my guy.

Speaker 18 (55:30):
Al David.

Speaker 13 (55:31):
Whatever there was any kind of problems with that something,
he would go to Al and say, hey, how did
you do this? And how did you do that? And
Al did his thing. He was a maverick man. You
hate him or love him or whatever, you know, he
did his thing and he I believe Terry Jones modeled
himself after that. Now that's been fifty sixty seventy years.
Some times have changed, but he still has that same mold,

(55:54):
you know. So I respect the guy. You know, it's
his team. He can kind of do it. He once
out if he should be GM, but as an owner, hey,
I give it to him.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Man.

Speaker 13 (56:03):
He you know, did everything want to do it. And
you know even the players, uh that back when they
were winning, you know, Emmitt Smith. People don't remember he
held out and they started losing.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
I talked about that they were going to in ninety
three and then he signed.

Speaker 13 (56:20):
Twig Treig Aikman and Michael Irvin had a literate kittens
screaming at Jerry Jones to get it back once he
once he signed the deal and got it back they
went out of tear. So you know, he's the man
that's not stupid. He's made millions and doing his thing billions,
I guess, and uh, yeah, I like the.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Guy real quickly. Caitlin Clark. Uh and well more over
the w n b A. Uh they're coming back with competition.
Do they lose that momentum?

Speaker 3 (56:49):
You know what.

Speaker 13 (56:50):
I'm a football basketball guy, and uh, I really didn't
really care.

Speaker 15 (56:55):
About the w n b A.

Speaker 13 (56:56):
I mean, I paid attention to it now that Caitlyn
Clark is there, but it really wasn't my thing. But
you know, the women, they came out and they did
their things, so you know, I know this is like
you said, changing, this is a different time and everything.
So I'm glad that she's able to do it. But yeah,
I think football football is king. We know that, even
college football, I think is you know, might put some

(57:18):
damper on it, but you never know. I mean, she
she she's doing things for the women and everything. I'll
support it, but I'm I'm football, you know, NBA college
college troops. That's my thing.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
All right, good good stuff, James, Now, don't be a
stranger man. We do this every every Friday night and
I know you're a movie guy, so coming up at
about thirty six minutes, don't miss Breeze threes. Thanks bud,
Ladies and gentlemen, Wake the kids, call the neighbors. Grandpa,
put on pants. It's my guy. Man well in Guardana
or La Place.

Speaker 13 (57:52):
Sure sure came in the train reaction.

Speaker 18 (57:57):
Paige E Simon cow Hey good show is always burned.
I love this topic because, you know what, Jerry Jones
is a visionary, a mastermind. This guy, like to what
he's The last caller said he took a page out
of Al Davis, you know, I mean basically at the

(58:18):
NFL's digs, and this guy zags right to a ten
billion dollar franchise mark. So whether he's one or not,
he's one in life. As pressure one of the callers
comparing him to Iron Man, I would go more with
plastic Man, being that the guy's face has been stretched

(58:41):
about as far as a snare drum.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
I mean, that's the man. Well we know in love.

Speaker 18 (58:47):
I don't know how the guy could chew gum and
walk at the same time, to be honest, but.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Let me ask you a question. If him and Joan
Rivers were to pro create, what would that kid look like.

Speaker 18 (58:55):
Oh my goodness, that would be out of the toxic avenger.
I tell you that being would look like I don't
know what the hell that would look like.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Oh man, no, I wouldn't want to see any any
of that. Yeah, hey, real quickly because uh the w NBA, Man, well,
is it gonna lose the momentum it's built now that
it's got to compete.

Speaker 18 (59:19):
I'm gonna take a page out of Rob Parkers. I
never missed the WNBA because I never watch it.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
So we did chows in Detroit.

Speaker 18 (59:29):
They'll never get any momentum from me because I'm just
not a fan of women's basketball. I'm sorry, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
No, I appreciate your candor, but you do acknowledge that,
you're straight up dude. You do acknowledge they have put
up some real numbers this year, and the question is
can they maintain that? And look, listen, man, there's an
old sing. Not everybody likes olives. Go figure. I'm one
hundred percent Italian. I don't eat alas. I don't like them.
You go to the grocery store, there's rose and rose,

(59:56):
so somebody eats them. So I'm with you, My friend,
I'm with you.

Speaker 9 (59:59):
Yeah, kayln clark A.

Speaker 18 (01:00:01):
She's a generational player, but I'm just not a fan man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Good luck to him, all right, man, Well you hold
it down there, my man. In the City of Angels,
Hilberto and San Diego, welcome in, Welcome back. How are
you all?

Speaker 20 (01:00:15):
Love Ernic, come with us?

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Movie by any too?

Speaker 20 (01:00:19):
Movie viene movien.

Speaker 9 (01:00:20):
You're having a great show, like always.

Speaker 20 (01:00:21):
Have been listening throughout, but I have not been able.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
To hear the one today I cut you off. What
did you say there? Nothing today?

Speaker 13 (01:00:30):
No that I have been listening to you for every show,
but I have not been able to call you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Well, I'm glad you could call. And I thought you
had called before I have.

Speaker 20 (01:00:40):
And we talk about boxing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
That's right, that's right, that's right on YouTube that fight
you talked about. All right, what are your thoughts quickly?
I want to make sure I get to everybody. What
are your thoughts? Biberto on Jerry Jones? You like him?
Hate him? Good band? What up?

Speaker 20 (01:00:54):
Listen? I'm a patriotan, but I have to respect Jerry
Jones as an owner. I think he changed food. I
can compare him to Time Brenner. Jerry boss, I mean,
one of the greatest owners in team sports. Lousy general manager,
especially the last twenty thirty years almost because he hasn't

(01:01:15):
won a thing, but as an entrepreneur, visionary, he'll go
down in history as one of the best. I think
because he moved the NFL he did. And in regard
to the WNBA, I think we have to wait and
see the numbers they have for the same period last

(01:01:37):
season or the previous seasons. But I do think they're
going to have a lot much better numbers than any
season before. And that's what counts at the end of
the day, is not the NFL or anything. How many
eyeballs do they get after the NFL starts and in

(01:01:58):
the second half of the season and the playoffs, and
if the fever makes the playoffs.

Speaker 13 (01:02:05):
Go through the roof.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
That's an excellent point. There's a wildcard there. Great stuff,
Uberto as always, you take it easy, my friend. Uh.
Coming up, we have got it. We might have a
special guest, a special callers, Stephen las Vegas. We're gonna
get to that coming up at first, but first let's
go to our guy, Kevin Fergers with another award winning update.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
All right, Bernie and.

Speaker 10 (01:02:28):
We had a full slate of Major League baseball on
Friday night. The nightcap was in Anaheim, where the Angels
defeated Atlanta three to two, Dodgers getting home runs from
Kevin Kiermeyer, Mookie Betts, and Gavin Lux. Kiermeyer actually the
go ahead home run in the six with a three
run blast. They defeat the Cardinals seven to six. All
Star pitcher for the Dodgers, Tyler Glass, now is placed
on the fifteen day injured list with elbow tendonitis. Carlos

(01:02:50):
Santana a three run home run from Minnesota. They defeated
the Rangers four to three. Texas has lost fifteen of
their last twenty games. Trede Turner with four hits, including
the walk off RBI single for Philadelphia. They defeated Washington
three to two. Colorado snapped the Padres three game win
streak with a seven to three victory. Paul Skins and
the Pirates snapped a ten game losing streak after picking
up a five to three win over at Seattle. Went

(01:03:12):
for the Mets, Red Sox and the Yankees, who got
six shutout innings and eight strikeouts from Garrett Cole and
a three to nothing victory over Detroit and golf second
round at the FedEx Saint Jude Championship at Decky Matsuyama
and Danny McCarthy are tied the top the leader board
in the WNBA. As we're discussing Kaitlyn Clark twenty eight points,
five boards, ten assists in a ninety eight to eighty
nine fever victory over Phoenix on Friday, Factor Bernie Freddo,

(01:03:34):
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Thanks, Kevin, Rangers deal kind of shocking. I saw your
Dodgers twice in Milwaukee this past week, up close and personal.
I think they're gonna be okay. I like their physical latitude,
they got bets back, they're getting Max Munty back. Conversation
for a different day. Let's go back out to the
phone lines. Steve in Las Vegas. Now, Steve to what

(01:03:56):
do we owe this pleasure?

Speaker 15 (01:03:58):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Well.

Speaker 15 (01:04:00):
I think Jerry Jones is pretty good. I mean, he
shocked me when he traded herschel Walker and that built.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
The Cowboys seven players he.

Speaker 15 (01:04:10):
Got at and T Stadium. Out of that, we got
at three super Bowls. But he's a little too much
into himself. But he's the one that's suffering in the
box seats whenever they lose.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
You know, see, that's a really good point. He suffers
in silence. He may have more money than God, but
he wants to prove he can win a Super Bowl
without Jimmy Johnson. I'm not so sure it's in the
cards exactly.

Speaker 15 (01:04:33):
And then Barry Swifzer was a fuck in the face
to Troy Aikman.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
You know that whole deal. That whole deal was just
a big fagazy He won it with Jimmy's players. We
all know that Barry was smart enough just to stay
out of the way. By and large, though, do you
believe Jerry Jones is good for the NFL?

Speaker 15 (01:04:52):
Yeah, he's a marketing tool, no question, marketing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Emphasis on tool or marketing. Couldn't resist that, Steve all Right.
The w NBA, yes or no, they're going to continue
their their renaissance here their competing.

Speaker 15 (01:05:09):
You enjoyed watching Caitlin Clark. I started watching this year
and that nd W NBA in the All Star Game.
That was one of the best games I've seen. I
got to admit it. I watched the whole thing, I
take it. And if the Niners are playing the Chiefs
during the WNBA championship. People could dbr you know what

(01:05:31):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
So check out the week seven schedule if that that's
going to be the day of the NBA or the
possible final day of the WNB. I know the Raiders,
but the she said day right.

Speaker 15 (01:05:42):
But when the league started out, they couldn't play. They
were terrible. But the girls twenty fast years later, they're
playing good now. I mean they're swishing, you know, so
it's a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
I agree with you that the the quality of play
is not bad. It's pretty it's pretty good. And now
that you're I need to get named recognition, which is
what Americans need. All right, Hey, Steve, appreciate your time.
We do this every Friday night, and so that's hear
from you again.

Speaker 15 (01:06:09):
All right, thank you. Enjoyed your book.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Oh you're the one who read it. I would have
got I would have sent you a copy for Freedom Man.
All right, Thanks Steve, you take care. We have another
Steven Stephen in Kansas City regular on the midnight hour.
Hi Stephen, how are you? Hey?

Speaker 7 (01:06:25):
Ronny, great great show tonight. You know Jerry is the
ring master of the circus.

Speaker 14 (01:06:31):
I would put him as.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Remember remember the Yankees, Remember when Greg Nettles said, I
always wanted to play for the Yankees and be a
part of the circus. When George Stearns signed me, I
got to do both.

Speaker 7 (01:06:46):
They're the only team that has bigger ratings that are
that are chief, so.

Speaker 15 (01:06:50):
He must be doing that.

Speaker 7 (01:06:51):
He must be doing something something right. People are interested,
you know. We we've got Taylor Swift and they've got Jerry.
So I'll take I'll take our talk Kelsey and Swift
and Mahomes over over Jerry.

Speaker 15 (01:07:03):
But it's fun.

Speaker 7 (01:07:04):
It's fun to watch. I watch them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
So that's that's just thumbs up that Jerry in his
own way. I'm not saying you want to take a
hot shower with him. But he's good for the NFL, right, he.

Speaker 7 (01:07:17):
Lives all boats, I mean. And it's kind of a
good transfer to Caitlin that I don't think the w
n b A has figured out what to do with
her yet. It seems to be it seems to be
a gimme that she's gonna that she and Angel are
going to be the the generational players to take him,

(01:07:38):
take him upwards and onwards. And they seem to have
no clue as to how to pay some of these
elderly players like Diana Trosti. Great champion, but there's no
way at forty two years old, she deserves to be
on that Olympic team we saw her tonight. I hate

(01:08:01):
to say it, but they have to do like the
women's soccer Look what happened to the women's soccer team.
We just won the gold. We had to phase out
Alex Morgan. We had to phase out all the old players.
The w NBA has been subsidized by the NBA for
so long. They don't know how to conduct business. You
just have to get rid of people sometimes that you

(01:08:24):
might not want to get rid of. I mean that's
that's just Caitlin an angel of the future and Diana
Torossi is the past. But I don't think. I don't
know if they're going to get that message.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
I mean it's well, they've been pretty stubborn about it. Man.
Can you say jealousy? Come on, man, this is so obvious.
Stevie Wonder can see it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:43):
I just see, Meritt. I see if I was Caitlin,
I would have played for ice Cube and the Big
Three during that break. I mean, she has no allegiance
to these They don't treat her right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
You know what, she knows where her bread's buttered. He
that's a really good point. But is really shrewd. She's
playing the long game here. She's not just chasing the
almighty dollar.

Speaker 7 (01:09:06):
I mean, yeah, she's chasing endorsements.

Speaker 21 (01:09:10):
I know.

Speaker 7 (01:09:10):
But but the way she's being treated by this league,
she should be Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. Angel should
Angel is being undervalued also. I would I would have
gone to that big tree during the break so fast
and collected ten million dollars. She has no allegiance to them,
I mean yeah, I mean she could still play the WNBA.
She can play the Big three and the WNBA at

(01:09:31):
the same time. Bring Angel.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
She's got yet the box here. All right, listen, I accept,
I accept your opinion. As you know, she's got a
forty million dollars Nike deal. She hung out and she
got to a little traveling, little playing around, and then
she went, you know, and so all right, good stuff
is always Steven. Don't be a stranger about time we
got to the belly of the beast. Robert in Dallas, Robert,

(01:09:55):
you're there in Dallas. You Jerry guy Er no.

Speaker 9 (01:09:59):
Jerry as a general manager trash as an owner, trash.

Speaker 15 (01:10:05):
As a businessman.

Speaker 9 (01:10:06):
No better businessman in the world. And I say that
because Jerry's worst nightmare is not that he hasn't won
a super Bowl in thirty years. He could win ten
in ten But if he's not relevant, it would kill him.
He doesn't suffer. The reason and the thing about Jerry
Jones is he's a great businessman because he's accepting of technology,

(01:10:28):
he's accepting of everything. He didn't build the Cowboys. The
Cowboys were built in the sixties when the NFL was nothing,
but Jerry Jones was. He was open to the ideas.
But you take the NFL the way it is now
with gambling, with social media. Oh you've got to put
players out there with a star because that was built
seventy years ago. And his state is littered with business

(01:10:52):
people came.

Speaker 13 (01:10:53):
Around by my time.

Speaker 9 (01:10:56):
You look at all these podcast guys. Not it's never
been heard of. There's a bunch of millionaires. Just come
at the right time, and you're accepting for change, don't success.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
We're having an issue with Robert's phone. Uh, Bree, maybe
let Robert know. Yeah, thanks, okay, appreciate that, Bree. So
Robert to take a take a quick break here. Brio'll
get you right back. I want to hear what you've
got to say, but we're like it's it's like to
drive through at Wendy's. I'm hearing every other word nothing
against Wendy's. I like Wendy's. Don't don't hold that against me.

(01:11:33):
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Let's hope we have a little bit more luck with
your phone. We were getting every other word, Robert.

Speaker 9 (01:12:55):
I appreciate you taking my call again. First saying Jerry
Jones general manager, trash owner, trash businessmen, probably one of
the best best businessmen in the history of this country.
And I say that because he goes with whatever is
benefits the business as far as like direct TV, you know,
social media, even for an older guy, you wouldn't think

(01:13:17):
he does, but he does.

Speaker 6 (01:13:18):
But as far as the owner, any owner that keeps.

Speaker 9 (01:13:21):
The same general manager after thirty years of not being
relative in the playoffs is a bad owner, you know.
And what Jerry Jones has done is Jerry Jones is
the perfect example of a guy that came around right
at the right time, along at the right time. And
I say that because if Jerry Jones was being the

(01:13:42):
owner of nineteen sixty, he wouldn't be successful. American history
is littered with people that have gotten into the business
at the right time. And I'll give you the podcast
people for example, forty years ago, ninety nine percent of
these podcast people would have never made the radio, would
have never been successful. Now, whether it's them or the
Hawk Tool Go, they came arong at the right time

(01:14:02):
and they've become successful. Jerry Jones came along at the
time where he was going to accept direct TV, social media,
and that made him successful. Not I mean as far
as football, he's horrible. And you know, you say, Jimmy
Johnson the first of Walker trade, that wasn't Jerry Jones.

Speaker 15 (01:14:18):
It was Jimmy Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
No, no, no, no, that's not true. No no, no, no, no, no,
Jerry had a lot to do with that. All right, listen,
good stuff. I want to get to the other callers.
You're going to watch the w n B.

Speaker 13 (01:14:29):
A uh one thing, just one real quick thing about
w n B A w NBA.

Speaker 9 (01:14:33):
That's exactly what I'm saying. W NBA is going to
be successful, but not because of the product. W NBA
is going to be successful because it came along at
the right time when way during specially pick like the
prize picks and all that is coming along where they're
getting recognition because people like me, they like the gamble
when there's nothing to it, they watch it.

Speaker 12 (01:14:51):
We watch it.

Speaker 9 (01:14:52):
We've learned the players and they've come around in the
long time. I think they're going to be successful and
they're going to grow because of that. Thank you very
much for taking my call.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
All right, don't be a stranger. Appreciate you. Robert. Back
out to Dallas, Bryce Joint Just hi, Bryce, what are
your thoughts on Jerry Jones?

Speaker 6 (01:15:06):
And I.

Speaker 12 (01:15:08):
Have no idea what's making Jerry Jones? To be honest,
there's a guy by the name is Gary Vaynerchuck who
wrote a book.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Called Van Pretty successful guy, Gary Vanynerchuk give give people
this background, so I don't know who he is.

Speaker 22 (01:15:21):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (01:15:21):
He's a serial entrepreneur that grew his father's wine business
to multi million arms.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Great interview, by the way, great interview, very bright, yep,
go ahead, thanks parallel.

Speaker 12 (01:15:32):
So he uh, he wrote a book called Day trading attention,
and I think Garry Jones is the best that day
trading attention. You know, it's how to get the eyes
on the sport, not just Dallas, but the sport in general.
And with all the money, he's able to make big moves.
He's a good GM. He's getting the team winning, getting
him into the playoffs. They can't win in the playoffs.

(01:15:52):
I think his biggest issue is you can't be a
ruler in your own kingdom. And I think when it
gets down to like the small things, he's so like,
he clings to.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
It so tightly.

Speaker 12 (01:16:03):
They doesn't allow any creativity from anyone else and it
messes them up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
It's very difficult to disagree with that. He's in the
way a lot of the times. And you get to
take the dude with the bad thoughts on the WNBA
are they're going to lose momentum now.

Speaker 12 (01:16:22):
So I'm a Christian and one of my favorite preachers
says this quote one time. It says pain lives where
your expectations don't meet reality. So that space in between
your expectations and realities for pain lives. I think we
need to put resal expectations on the WNBA I think
they're going to grow from this year or from previous years.

(01:16:43):
I don't think they're going to keep the momentums they
had earlier this year. But you mentioned that the last
game potentially is on August October twenty second, to bring
this full circle, that the bye week for the Dallas Cowboys,
who were the most watched teams in the NFL last year,
can benefit them.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Well, I didn't really think about that, but yeah, yeah,
I can't. I can't rule that out. Sort of an
interesting uh, thank you.

Speaker 18 (01:17:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
It's sort of an interesting dichotomy there. Jerry is all
of these things, and you're, you know, a lot of
good calls tonight, but yet the Cowboys are still the
most watched team. And I don't think he gets enough
credit for some of the good personal decisions he's have made.
I haven't not yet. I've yet to figure out when
it matters most. Why the hell Dak Prescott continues to

(01:17:36):
screw the pooch in the playoffs and it is his fault.
Don't tell me it's not. He's gone up against multiple
other quarterbacks in the league less than he is, and
he's been out duel every time. Uh, Kevin figures let's
get your thoughts on this, my man. Uh, Jerry Jones,
good or bad for the NFL? You know what we're
going with this?

Speaker 10 (01:17:54):
Good for the NFL, because I mean, the NFL has
thrived under I won't say his leadership, but he certainly
has been one of the more influential owners. If you're
talking about the Sunday ticket expansion, all the national TV contracts,
all that stuff. He was a big innovator when it
comes to that, one of the big motivators for relocation
bringing the Rams back to La expansion. So he's been
grateful from that standpoint for his own franchise. I think

(01:18:16):
it's been bittersweet because they have had a run of
success over the last twenty years. I believe they've made
the playoffs twelve times. If they've been over five hundred,
I think at least twelve times over that period of
time in our perennial playoff contender. And at a certain point,
you make the playoffs enough times, you leave it up
to the players to kind of figure it out. I mean,
I could think of a couple of occasions Tony Romo
dropping the extra point, you know, when he was a

(01:18:37):
holder in a playoff great point the interception against the
Giants the year the Giants won the Super Bowl, the
first year they beat the Patriots, and I think the
Cowboys are fourteen to two that year and the favorites.

Speaker 5 (01:18:46):
He can't control that.

Speaker 10 (01:18:48):
You mentioned all of Dak Prescott's shortcomings in the postseason
as well. If he's built a good enough roster to
make it to that point in time, eventually, the players
have to be able to make the plays when necessary.

Speaker 5 (01:18:57):
Has he been perfect?

Speaker 10 (01:18:58):
No, But to say that he's a horrible owner, I mean,
the Cowboys more often than not, especially over the last decade,
have been one of the better teams in the NFC
and have been a contender at least headed into the postseason.
What happens beyond that falls on the heads of the
players and the coaches, not necessarily on the ownership. So
that's the way that I would assess it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
I couldn't have said it better. Kevin real quickly, WNBA.
They're going to continue to momentum.

Speaker 10 (01:19:23):
It's going to die off a little bit because the
NFL and college football overtake so many different things. But
I do believe as we get closer to the postseason,
if the fever end up making your run and Kaylyn Clark,
you know, jumps back up into the consciousness because again
she was forgotten because she wasn't part of team USA.

Speaker 11 (01:19:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:19:38):
I do think it's going to be a little bit
of interest, but it's probably going to die down a
little bit just because you're going to be going up
against the biggest competition in sports in football, college and pro.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Again, agree with you on all points. We'll get to
Bree and Mark later on and the B block in
the one AM. I want to get their thoughts on
Jerry Jones and the Cowboys and the Wnbaight pertinent issues.
In many cases, they are polarizing issues, and there are
thoughts across the board. Again, I like to say there

(01:20:08):
are objective truths in our personal feelings, and when it
comes to Jerry, most people are in their fields. But
you got to remember, he's built a franchise. It's now
worth four point four billion dollars. He's in the Hall
of Fame. Ask his fellow owners that are all now
receiving a television revenue check for two hundred and forty
four million dollars a year and watching the NFL dominate

(01:20:28):
television ratings and They're onward and upward to bigger and
better things. Look at the rosters he's helped to build.
Monster offensive lines, talented running backs, talented wide receivers, a
quarterback who's very good in the regular season. An aggressive defense,
a punishing defense. It's like, well, the operation was a success,
but the patient keeps dying. What are you going to do?

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Speaker 23 (01:21:43):
Alrighty, So yesterday it was announced that Nicholas Cage is
gonna play John Madden in an upcoming David O. Russell movie,
which I think is a little random as a casting.
I don't know what you guys think, but you know,

(01:22:04):
I think there's probably a few different actors that could
have played John Madden a little bit better. What do
you think, Bernie.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
I haven't got my mind around it yet at all,
for multiple reasons, including other rules that Nick Cage has played,
like leaving Las Vegas or Valley Girl or you get
the point right, face off conn Air. He's had a
lot of hits and misses, doesn't have the body type.
Maybe they'll make up the face and maybe he can
channel his inner John Madden. But it's a stretch. It's

(01:22:32):
a big stretch for me. I can't. You know, John
Madden and Fast Times Origemont High don't don't mix. So
but I'm gonna give it a stay in court.

Speaker 23 (01:22:41):
Yes, definitely, like so it'll definitely be interesting. So I
thought a good topic would be biopicks, like the three
best biopicks and not just sports, but just like a variety.
So my three I went Bohemian Rhapsody.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
As number all Freddie Mercury love it.

Speaker 23 (01:22:58):
So Rommy Mallick. Yes, incredible. Had all the prosthetics, did
all the gestures, the hand movements, the singing, just everything.
I thought that was a really good pick. My second
one was I Tanya with Margot Robbie, another phenomenal and movie,

(01:23:19):
just because like Tanya Harding was such a kind of
different looking kind of girl, right, and for Margot Robbie
to try to transform herself completely Margot Robbie's hot, like
I mean, I think we all know that, right, So
for her to completely transform into like a Portland chick
like that was pretty, you know, an incredible transfer.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
And in the chemistry with her and Alison Janney who
played her mom, was just ridiculous.

Speaker 23 (01:23:48):
That back and forth and those fights, and you just
really felt like that trauma, you know, that mother daughter,
just that angst and that anger, like yeah, that that drama. Yeah,
you really felt dead.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
There were a lot of powerful scenes in that movie, really,
and Janie.

Speaker 23 (01:24:00):
Won an Academy Award for that movie. Yeah, so Best
Supporting Actress, Margot Robbie was nominated. But yeah, so anyway,
so I think Margot robbi and just like there's you know,
there's even that scene in Ititania where she's looking in
the mirror and the makeup and everything, and that's not
Margot Robbie, Like that's not hot.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
She poured into the character.

Speaker 23 (01:24:19):
Yes, So I think that was my number two and
my number one was walked the line from two thousand and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Five A.

Speaker 7 (01:24:26):
Yes.

Speaker 23 (01:24:27):
So Joaquin Phoenix, Yes, was incredible as Johnny Cash and
then Reese Witherspoon, Like you kind of have to give
that to Reese, like she was an incredible June Carter.
She learned how to play like you know those instruments,
I can't think of that, not the guitar, but the
other little instrument thing. But both of them were incredible,
and you know, that whole soundtrack was both of them.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
So they didn't really that's right, They sang that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:24:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:24:52):
And so that was nominated for five Academy Awards and
grossed over one hundred and eighty six million dollars at
the box office. So that was my number one for
Best biopick, just because Joaquin Phoenix was incredible as Johnny Cash.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Well, great job not to be that guy. But the
instrument was called the auto harp.

Speaker 23 (01:25:10):
Yes, yeah, oh my gosh, yeah that was a harp.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Yeah, I'm kind of a rain Man EIGHTI well, listen.
I love those three movies. And again, the relationship between
Johnny Depp and his well not Johnny Depp, excuse me,
Joaquin Phoenix, Johnny Cash who played Johnny Cash and his
dad was very real and that formed who Johnny Cash became.

Speaker 14 (01:25:31):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
At the hard Rock Hotel here, Johnny Cash was arrested
many times, and there's a famous letter of a sheriff
let him out of jail, gave him a break, and
the letter was on displayed and said, Johnny, you have
a choice to make the rest of your life. You
can come back to this jail or you can both.
Really powerful letter and it was a collector's item and
I remember standing there reading that thing and like wow,
of course the hard Rock's no longer here. They're going
to build a new hard rock with the mirage. All right,

(01:25:55):
three great ones. I got to tell you, Walk the
Line almost made my list almost almost. Well, here's the problem.
This is such a good topic because when it comes
to bio picks. You're telling a story, so how do
I It's like picking your favorite noodle in a play
to spaghetti, right. So I settled on my three because
of the tangible, visceral feel that the movie gave me

(01:26:17):
in the theater. I look for like the real entertainment,
quotion and music tracks, which, by the way, very much Walked.
The line had that, and it is the story told
with panash Okay. Walk the Line was maybe fourth. But
there's a lot of other really good ones in there
that they just couldn't get to, and I won't name
them all, so I'll just get to my three, and
these aren't any particular order. The first one for me

(01:26:40):
has to be Goodfellas. It's a true story of Henry Hill,
a mob infeman played by Raliota the soundtracks off the Hook.
Probably saw the movie three times and it's a bile
pick about a real human being who helped the FBI
infiltrate the mafia. The second one for me Wolf of

(01:27:00):
Wall Street. Now he said, what are you talking about, Bernie? Well,
remember Marco Roby was also in that. That kind of
really put around the map definitely, and that is the
profile of a gentleman. By the name of Jordan Belfort,
who's a real person played by Leonardo DiCaprio. Now, I've
seen the real Jordan Belfort in interviews and he's very impressive,

(01:27:23):
very articulate, very smooth. Not quite as crazy. We probably crazy,
but not quite as animated as Leo DiCaprio played him.
And that movie hooked me right away. When remember when
Johill slays me, he could order a cheese omelet and
I would laugh, right, And he's in that restaurant and
he's on the phone with Jordan Belfort. He's on the

(01:27:45):
phone with Leevy. He goes, I'm working for you now.
So that that was a classic movie. And then I'm
gonna come out of left field with another Leo DiCaprio movie,
Catch Me if you can't.

Speaker 5 (01:27:56):
It's a true.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Story of a guy named Frank Anil who is He
was a master of deception, a brilliant forger. He was
the most famous bank robber of all time. The FBI
couldn't catch him. Remember Tom Hans, Yes, that was a
real agent. He played by the name of Carl Hanratty.
They finally joined forces and he ended up he ended

(01:28:19):
up being hired by the FBI because he was always
one step ahead of the FBI. But that took place
in a time this fashion, that the movies, or that
the you know, the the music and all that kind
of stuff. So there were it was hard to pick three,
and walk the Line was fourth, but I ended up
settling on Goodfellas, Wolf of Wall Street and Catch Me

(01:28:40):
if you can't. I took a hard look at Shimdler's list,
another true story about Oscar Schindler. Uh played brilliantly Uh
and it was a situation where obviously he was an
opportunist during World War Two. Very intense movie. I didn't
want to bust up the mood to night, which I
just did. And Oppenheimer also also came very close to
making the list because Robert Oppenheimer was the brains behind

(01:29:02):
the atomic momb Anyway, good good stuff tonight, pre Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:29:05):
Absolutely, So then we'll go to Mark now for his three.

Speaker 22 (01:29:09):
So I'm gonna say my three. I want to start
with Ray with that was Jamie Fox. Oh yes, And
because Jamie Fox is already a musician and he had
his own TV show, and he's great at impressions. He really,
you know, as we can see on the screen. He
really got into the character and he was able to

(01:29:32):
you know, sit down and talk with him, play music
with Ray Charles because he was still alive, so he
could do that extra sort of of learning how to
get the character down, get his mannerisms down, and you know,
and make sure his voice was right, and just to
be able to play and look the part when he
played the part of Ray Charles. So that's my first one,

(01:29:53):
like you said, not necessary with this kind of order.
And my next one I'm gonna pick was a coal
miner's daughter, Sissy Space played Loretta Lynne, and just her
you know the idea of capturing that persona that person
and the whole life she had to go through. I
forget the name of the actor who played Due. He

(01:30:14):
was the guy from Men in Black, but we all
know him the second guy anyway, that's the cole Mine
his daughter is my second one. And then I picked
another DiCaprio mover aviator because of how he came across
Howard Hughes playing his you know, brainiac millionaire part and
then once.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
Not just a brainiac, he was a player.

Speaker 22 (01:30:36):
Well, oh my god, I was gonna you know, thanks
for you know, finishing my thought he was he was
a brainiac, a millionaire, and then his decline that we
could all see over the years of what he eventually
turned into and some of the drawings that came out
after that. Guy wanted to go interview him just what
he eventually turned into. But I just thought that DiCaprio

(01:30:59):
should have won for that before he won for Revenant.
So those are my three, and as going, my honorable
mention would have been forty two of che Robinson Bowsman.

Speaker 5 (01:31:12):
That was a really really good movie.

Speaker 22 (01:31:13):
With those, that's my three, Ray, Colem and his Daughter
and Aviator.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
And of course Aviator and Ray came out the same year. Uh,
those are really good, really thoughtful movies. Again, really powerful performances.
Aviator had had a hell of a cast to Kate
Blanchett and at John c Riley, Kate Beckhamsale and I
got to tell you some of those scenes with the
kid Jude Law. All right, great stuff, Mark.

Speaker 23 (01:31:42):
Brie, all right, cav you're up next.

Speaker 10 (01:31:45):
All right, So Mark did take one of mine, which
was Ray, which is spectacular for all the reasons you
explained why Jamie Fox did a phenomenal job, not only
because he's already a talented musician, but to make himself
actually sound exactly like Ray charleson studying and all of
his men. You So, I guess I could put a
ray on my honorable mention since you already took it.
And one that I liked was called Man on the

(01:32:06):
Moon and it was about Andy Kaufman, and uh, Jim
Carrey did a phenomenal job in abiding and look, Jim
Carrey is very eccentric, and so was Andy, so he
was kind of perfectly cast in that role. I think
Jerry Vuller played himself in the movie. Uh So that
was I think that was an excellent one. I loved Ali, uh,
and there are very few people you can choose to

(01:32:28):
try to play that role. And I thought that Will
Smith did it as well as anybody possibly could have.
Uh So, I thought he did an excellent job embodying
Ali in the same thing, trying to study his mannerisms,
got himself, you know, worked on his physique to look
like Ali as much as he possibly could.

Speaker 5 (01:32:42):
I thought that was a solid one.

Speaker 10 (01:32:44):
And then one of my favorites is X and Denzel
Washington playing Malcolm X in a Spike Lee's movie.

Speaker 11 (01:32:50):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (01:32:50):
Talk about again, someone who studied hard for the role
and I think perfectly cast for that situation. I thought
Denzel did an amazing job of embodying the s and
of michaelm X. So though those would be my three
really good choices.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
Kevin and X came out just months after the Rodney
King riots in Los Angeles, and very powerful, very powerful, Bree,
this is such a good topic, great job. If everybody
can come up with one more, because I have to
mention social network.

Speaker 23 (01:33:19):
Oh, I was just gonna say that, Yeah, we'll go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
But you say what you got to say that, I'll
follow up on you.

Speaker 23 (01:33:23):
No, no, no, I was just gonna say I think
social network is it is something that's obviously a little
bit more like current and a little like you know,
within like social media, the beginning of the social media.
I think that was huge and I think they did
a really good job, and especially just like Andrew Garfield
and Jesse Einberg, like the whole Zuckerberg thing, I think
it really captured everything really well.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
Let me tell you, yeah, the Winkleman Twins are you guys,
you guys twins? You guys related? Jesse Eisenberg's a smart ass. Look.
That was a great movie because the way the story
was told again, it had real panache. And you know,
people who have accused me, people have known a long time,

(01:34:04):
always accused me of overthinking everything. They're right I do,
and most people don't like that, but it served me well.
When I evaluate movies, I overthink them. And the irony
here is, here's a guy, Mark Zuckerberg played by Jesse Eisenberg.
If the story is told truly, and I have no
reason to believe it's not, he came up with this

(01:34:26):
whole deal at Harvard to impress a girl that blew
him off. And that opening scene with Rashida Jones and
the end scene with Rashida Jones said, the girl blew
you rough, not because you're so because you're an a hole.
I mean powerful movies, powerful movie lions. Remember in Goodwill
Hunting when Robin Williams looks at Matt Damon and says,

(01:34:48):
or Damon, look, he's you, Miss Carlton fits Homer, he
had to see about a girl. Those are just great
movie lions. And then he had Justin Timberlake, who I
don't like, but I liked him in the movie, Dakota Johnson,
Rashida Jones I forget who else social network. I didn't
mean to steal your thunder. Was there something else you
want to say?

Speaker 23 (01:35:05):
No, no, no, but that was that was on my
one of my honorable mentions. And Moneyball too, Oh I
love I adored that movie.

Speaker 5 (01:35:13):
I liked Lincoln with d. D. Lewis. I thought was
a really good one.

Speaker 23 (01:35:18):
Always my Left Foot also an honorable mention.

Speaker 22 (01:35:21):
Another one another one that I could break up. I
was gonna make the list was a Raging Bull with
Robert Denier.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
That was gonna make my list. And here's why that's
so impactful. We'll go ahead, Mark, see what you're gonna say,
I don't want to steal your thunder.

Speaker 22 (01:35:34):
Well, just the you know of you know, him being
able to you know, take over that role and become
Jake Robert all the not research, but just his the
physical toll he took from being in boxing shape and
then turning into what jakeleb Muda turned into, you know,
as as as the years passed. But just the toll,

(01:35:56):
and just having the movie being black and white, so
doing the boxing scene's the blood splatter would just show
up a certain kind of way. The movie is just
really really good him and Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
It will hold up today. Hopefully you have a big
screen at home. Turn off all the lights, turn your
damn cell phone off, engage. The movie came out in
December of nineteen eighty and it wasn't black and white.
It's his story of Jake Lamona, one of the greatest
boxers of all time and extremely troubled and erratic human being,
played by Robert de Niro. De Niro had to gain
fifty four pounds for the part. He gained fifty four

(01:36:28):
pounds for the part. That movie is so impactful and
so well told that cis glom. Ebert gave it. The
movie the decade, and it came out at the beginning
of the decade. And there were a lot of good
movies in the eighties. By the way, I love you guys,
referencing Daniel day Lewis because there will be blood and
gangs and those aren't bio picks. But anytime Daniel deay
Lewis puts his hands on something, it's usually special. Anybody

(01:36:50):
final thoughts, I got.

Speaker 22 (01:36:51):
One more, last one, I guess I can.

Speaker 5 (01:36:53):
I got this.

Speaker 22 (01:36:53):
STA mentioned a lot Forrest Whittaker, The Last King of Scots.

Speaker 10 (01:36:57):
Times Richmond was excellent The Last King of Style and
that's a great I forgot about that one movie.

Speaker 5 (01:37:01):
Yeah, really good.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
There's a guy with a lot of range. You know,
he had a scholarship to play football at EUCLA.

Speaker 5 (01:37:08):
Didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
Yep, obviously didn't go. He chose acting. A lot of range.
He's been. You know, he was great in The Butler,
The Last King of Scotland, which is a godfather of Harlem.
That's not really that's a series. You guys do remember
him in Fast Times? Is Ridgemont High? Right?

Speaker 6 (01:37:22):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
Yeah, for Jefferson, the linebacker. Jefferson, he goes to school here.
I thought they just flew him in for games. I remember
they trast his card chunk and all right, I digress. Breen,
you got the last word. This is your segment. You
created a great job.

Speaker 22 (01:37:35):
No, that was it.

Speaker 23 (01:37:36):
Thanks guys. I think that was really fun.

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we cannot move forward without getting Brien Mark's thoughts on
Jerry Jones and the WNBA. Bree start us off, So.

Speaker 23 (01:40:18):
Thinking back when Jordan Love and Tua got paid, like
DAK was never gonna get paid around that same time, right, Like,
so it's like Jerry Jones is always going to make
decisions and everything that's always going to set himself apart
and the team apart and everything else. Like as long
as yeah, he'll overpay and as long as it takes
like there's he's not gonna be in any rush, Like

(01:40:38):
there's no urgency with CD, and especially with like all
this Brandon Nyuk drama happening, Brandon Nayuk will probably be
like signed and retired a forty nine or before CD's
like signed, you know what I mean. So anyway, so
I mean, I you know, I think you can you
can bash him, you can say like he's you know,
a pain and he's always everywhere. But I mean I
think he's good for the NFL in a sense. And

(01:41:01):
then when it comes to the w NBA, like sustaining
that momentum, I think maybe around the postseason maybe it'll
kind of pick back up, but I think it's kind
of going to die down just a little bit, just
because everyone's going to be so focused on the beginning
of the season. Tom Brady's broadcaster now Caleb Williams is
a rook I mean, there's just there's so many other
storylines that are just gonna be yeah, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah,

(01:41:24):
So there's just there's just a little bit more going on.
I mean, obviously, but I think, like I said, if
if Kayln Clark and Angel Reese both make the postseason,
that's going to be super fun, and I think people
will pay attention to both.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
I noticed she didn't mention the New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 23 (01:41:38):
I did not. But Sensor Rattler is my offensive Rookie
of the Year pick, very very undercover possibility.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
Kevin just he's gonna he's gonna edge out Derek car.

Speaker 23 (01:41:49):
Then right by week four, that's my prediction.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
I hope by week zero, I mean that's my dream.
But yeah, off the record, just between us girls here exactly, yes,
all right, good job, Brie. All right, Mark, you got
the last word.

Speaker 22 (01:42:04):
When it comes to Jerry Jones being good for football,
you know, good or bad. I think he's good for
football because he's he's a good businessman and he's kept Dallas.
I'm not going to say afloat, but he's he has
Dallas in a good position. It's just that his being
a manager scale about how to make football work.

Speaker 5 (01:42:28):
I don't know if he's always.

Speaker 22 (01:42:30):
Dealing the right way to get the good players to
come along and to get the kind of players that
can get to the next level. Dak is good for
the regular season, but as we've been talking about, somehow
he figures out a way to not get across and
win a playoff gaming and at least get to the

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super Bowl and to do all those things. So Jerry
is good for the business of and good for his team,
keeping them, giving them what they need to be a
good team. But in his picking the players, he's not
picking the ones that going to get him across the line.

(01:43:12):
When it comes to the w NBA. I'm not going
to go out of my way to watch games that
their game is not fast enough for me. I know
it's a quiet taste to like the game and to
love it, and it's not a big thing for me.
I don't make time to go watch it unless I'm

(01:43:33):
here at work. On, all the TVs have the game on.
So when it comes to that, how they're going to
stack up against everything else, it will fall in line.
If the WNBA wins their games, if the games are impactful,
if it causes more success and excitement, they'll find their

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place because the colleges have already.

Speaker 23 (01:44:01):
Said and that it's another good thing.

Speaker 22 (01:44:04):
Football is always king, whether it's you know, NFL football
or college football, football is going to win and everybody
falls in line after that.

Speaker 5 (01:44:13):
So if they have if they know how.

Speaker 22 (01:44:15):
To, you know, get the teams to be better and
make the game better, you know, Caitlin or not. If
they are good, people will watch, they will get the
eyes that they need to be successful, and they'll just
fall in line with everything else because football has always
been king.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
Right, So you get a month off and they're going
up against football. I do think they will slow up.
We'll see on a relative basis, how compares to past years.
All right, coming up, we've got more on the show,
and by the way, at the end, a little Lebron controversy.
Do you imagine that? But first we go to our guy,
Kevin Figures with the latest.

Speaker 10 (01:44:53):
All right, Bernie on Friday Night the Dodgers widen the
gap in the National League West, if not narrowly. They
defeated the Cardinals seven to six. They three home runs
Kevin Kierrymeyer, the biggest one of the night at three
run blast being the difference in the sixth inning breaking
up the tie there. Tampa Bay walked off Arizona five
to four on a throwing error, and Colorado got a
home run from Charlie Blackman in a seven to three

(01:45:13):
victory over San Diego. So right now, LA's division lead
in the National League West stands at three games over
the Padres and Arizona. Phillies won their third straight with
a three to two walk off win over Washington. Atlanta
lost to the Angels three to two, so the Phillies division.

Speaker 5 (01:45:28):
Lead in the NL East is at eight games.

Speaker 10 (01:45:30):
Milwaukee defeated Cleveland five to three at three run home
run there from Willia Damas Twins handing Andrew Heeney his
major league high thirteenth loss in a four to three
win over Texas, and they trail the Guardians by three games.
Of the American League Central, it was the Yankees three
in Detroit. Nothing as Aaron Judge at as forty fourth
home run of the season. Yanks have a one game
lead over Baltimore in the American League East after the

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Red Sox outlast at Baltimore twelve to ten, and the
WNBA Kaitlin Clark twenty eight points ten assists in a
ninety eight to eighty nine fever victory over the Mercury Fredo.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
All right, Kevin, thanks bud Well. The US men's soccer
team has a new coach and it's a big name.
Is it gonna work? I don't know. That's here from
Christopher Fett, The World of Soccer.

Speaker 24 (01:46:14):
The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drama heim
It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

Speaker 5 (01:46:34):
Welcome back to clubs soccer. We missed you.

Speaker 21 (01:46:36):
Wait a minute, didn't we just finish? Didn't this just happen?
Did we just finish international soccer? Yes, yes we did.
It just felt like yesterday we were at Paris for
the twenty twenty four Olympics. Not much for behind that
was Copa America and euro Championship twenty twenty four, and
yet here we are as Manchester United kicked off the
Premier League on Friday.

Speaker 5 (01:46:58):
La Liga got.

Speaker 21 (01:46:59):
Kicked off on Thursday and a whole slate of games
on Saturday and Sunday, including a massive match right out
of the gate featuring Chelsea and Manchester City on Sunday
eleven thirty am Eastern Time. A real great one there.
But it's it's a little quick, it's bewildering. It's part

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of a thing we've talked about, Bernie and that this
is the longest season of soccer ever at more and
more people worry about the.

Speaker 5 (01:47:28):
Burnout Earling Hollins.

Speaker 21 (01:47:30):
I know he's been kind of on and off with injuries,
but if he goes and plays for all of Manchester
City this year, his season will be about three hundred
and fifty four days long. Or take Julian Alvarez, the
man who moved over from City to at leddi Co Madrid,
who was just who played not just Copa America but

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was also on the Argentina Olympic team as well. He
had no time off and he's going right in there
with a brand new club at at Lettig in a
very competitive La Liga. This year it's a lot and
more and more issues crop up, and I think that
was very illustrated this week where a very big Great

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took umbradge with one of those players now, Luke Shaw.
I mentioned Manchester United a little bit ago. They picked
up a win over Fulham to get started on the
season and it looks like left back Luke Shaw will
be missing time. Eric ten Hogg giving the update that
due to a calf injury, Shaw has been ruled out
until September, putting pressure on the club as it really

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looks to pick up some real big wins and tries
to really buy some respect back for itself in the
Premier League this season. And it's brought in criticism to
see Luke Shaw out kind of once again. Really he's
kind of on and off injured quite a bit. But
longtime Red Devil hero Peter Schmichael took umbrage with all

(01:48:57):
of this and went on BB's See five Live and
talk you know about this issue. Luke Shaw hasn't played
for United since February and that he played in the
Euros and now he's injured again and Schmichael says, quote,
he's so important, he's got experience, he's a top class
left back.

Speaker 5 (01:49:15):
We pay him.

Speaker 21 (01:49:16):
He should be focusing and prioritizing Manchester United and not
his country. These are very very concerning words, I think
because again we've talked a little bit about this though
Bertie about that more and more as this season, as
the soccer season continues to expand, gets bigger and bigger.
The conflict between country. Playing for your country, which is

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a big part of soccer, is coming more into conflict
with playing for your club, and the clubs who pay
a lot of money to these players are taking more
and more umbridge and want more and more say over
all of this. It might seem a little quaint to
American ears. After all, while we do have Team USA basketball,
there's always a understanding that the club comes first. The

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World Baseball Classic is another great example when Edwin Diaz
got injured and it was very much so, not that
Edwin Diaz was bad for playing for Puerto Rico, but
that the whole World Baseball Classic was a mistake somehow
because the closer for the Mets got hurt. First off
to Mets fans, crimea River. But it's still something different
to hear it in soccer, especially from Schmichael who played

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for about fourteen years with Team Denmark one hundred and
twenty nine appearances, and I think that more than anything,
that clubs should learn and understand that your game benefits
from and people come to watch the club game partially
and a lot of the times because of the international
game as well. These are two sides of the same

(01:50:45):
coin and they have to be handled hand in hand.
I understand injuries happen and you get frustrated by it,
and you see guys who weren't playing for many months
for Manchester United then going to play for Team England.
I find this also kind of golling, and I found
the response galling. I should say, Bernie, because even though
this was directed to an English club, I saw a

(01:51:06):
lot of United fans agreeing with Schmichael, so clearly he's
onto something that resonates with fans that this is something
where the club should take precedence. But I think there
is something magical to representing your country. I think it
is something amazing to represent your country and it is
a high honor to do so, and it should never
just be dismissed just because a club says so, because

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at the end of the day, that club will not
be loyal to you if it comes time for you
as a player for the rubber to meet the road anyway,
the club season's back. Hopefully we won't have a ton
more of issues because of how long the season has been,
but something to keep an eye on.

Speaker 5 (01:51:46):
We've been pounding on.

Speaker 21 (01:51:46):
The table a little bit here at the world of
soccer that the season is way too long. We just
finished and we're back here already, and expect this fatigue
to be a continuing storyline as we get going in
European soccer. Something I'd like to ask myself every year, Bernie,
is which is of the big four leagues of Europe

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La Liga, Siria, Premier League, Bundesliga, which is the most
fun to watch in any given year? And I hate
to say it, because as much as I know that
roost has been ruled by Premier League for a very
long time, I just have to go with La Liga
this year. I think when we look at the Premier League,
we always associate that league with a lot more competition

(01:52:30):
and thus makes it more viable. But it's been really
hard with Manchester City kind of running away with the
league every year now for quite some time.

Speaker 5 (01:52:38):
I know Arsenal has been getting close.

Speaker 21 (01:52:39):
Manchester United is really feeling itself and hoping to have
some good news this year. But besides that, I mean
Liverpool's turning over a new coach. I have to go
with Aliga because the talent influx we've just seen, be
it Julian Alvarez going to at Lettiico. Madrid always been
kind of the third spoke of the top tier echelon

(01:53:03):
of La Liga and sometimes claiming victory for themselves, and
I think the rivalry between Barcelona and Real Madrid is
kicking into high gear, especially as Killian and Bappe settles
in in Madrid.

Speaker 5 (01:53:16):
With Real, it's going to be fantastic.

Speaker 21 (01:53:19):
You know, Girona finished a very respectable third in the
Spanish League this year too, so I really am going
to keep an eye on Aliga and especially anytime there's
an El Classico on. It's just hard to ignore this
league right now. But that's not to say nothing about
the Premier League. We'll be talking about it plenty. On
the world of soccer moving forward, we should also talk
about that. As we said last week, we thought that

(01:53:42):
the United States would be moving in on Mauricio Poschettino
as their new head coach.

Speaker 5 (01:53:46):
Those rumors appear to be true.

Speaker 21 (01:53:49):
I give this, Bernie, and you can put out your
own grade if you wish.

Speaker 5 (01:53:52):
I give this a very good, solid eight.

Speaker 21 (01:53:54):
I think Bochettino is everything the United States needs right now.
He is a coach who is renowned for his relationship
with players for a team that has had some fractures
here that is absolutely massively important. He's someone very good
at developing talent, and once again his style of coaching,
this pressing attack, high flying attack is exactly what the

(01:54:18):
United States has their personnel for and they like to play.

Speaker 5 (01:54:22):
I really like the hire.

Speaker 21 (01:54:23):
He's probably got the best resume out of any US
coach higher so far. It's interesting to see what's going
to happen with the Americans as we now turn our
attention on the international side towards the twenty twenty six
World Cup sometime away.

Speaker 5 (01:54:35):
But that's going to do.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
It for US.

Speaker 21 (01:54:36):
Bernie, enjoy soccer back. We'll have more previews for a
lot of big name clubs as the season goes gets
started here and it's going to be a long one.

Speaker 5 (01:54:46):
We'll see you next time.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
So, Chris, my grade for the US sing Mauricio Pochettino
is a midterm grade, but I'm going to give it
an A. I mean this guy's got a resume. He
worked for Chelsea or he coach Chelsea Paris Saint Germain.
This is a guy who's been on the world stage
and they're gonna need it because the twenty twenty six
World Cup is here in North America and it would

(01:55:08):
be nice for once if the US team could make
a name for themselves on the field and make some
real noise. And that's gonna be The determination is to
whether or not Pochattino gets that midterm A into a
complete grade A. You gotta win on the field, simple
as that. Coming up, they won on the court, but

(01:55:30):
not without controversy. Some people thought Lebron should have been
the MVP of the Olympics. Others thought Steph. But there's
a twist to this story, and I'm gonna share that twist.
Coming up, I'm Bernie Frouder. We are coming to you
live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio tyreck dot
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Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
All right, we're wrapping it up on the Bernie Frattle
Show Fox Sports Radio come July from the Tarak dot
Com studios here in Las Vegas. Before I go any further,
I want to thank my broadcast team back in Los Angeles.
They've been with me since eleven pm Pacific time on
Friday night. Bree doing a great job creating Breeze stres

(01:56:27):
our movie segment and of course taking all the callers
tonight on the Midnight Hour, and thanks to the callers,
another rousing edition of the Midnight Hour. Mark Ramsey, our
technical producer, turning all the dials, keeping us glued together,
and of course Kevin figures superb job on the updates
and everybody's input on Jerry and the WNBA. I'll be
back on these airwaves Saturday night tonight eleven PMA Pacific.

(01:56:51):
Got another jamp Peck show, heavy heavy NFL stuff, two
great guests and the usual hijinks. You know, the Englishish
language is a language of context. We hear things the
other day, for instance, herbaying, oh, I got myself a
new rescue dog. Did you did you rescue that dog

(01:57:12):
from a burning building? Or did you dive into an
alligator swamp while wearing a tuxedo with no regard for
your personal safety. Did you really rescue the dog or
did you go to a pet store and just grabbing
off the rack? Okay, I'm being a jackass. You know
where I'm going with that. Everything has a context. When
they've all on the MVP, I never really know what

(01:57:34):
the definition is. It's subjective more than it is objective.
So all of a sudden, you can't have Olympics, you
can't have a Lebron James story without controversy. I mean,
this is drummed up out a whole cloth, I think.
But Lebron was named MVP for the men's basketball competition
at the Paris Olympics because put up good numbers, all

(01:57:55):
those things right, and he was a real force of nature.
And yes, his performance I think was MVB calendar caliberg
excuse me, but people have argued that perhaps the award
should have gone to Steph Curry because of his performance
in the semi finals and the gold medal game. Let's
face it, would the US have beatn Serbia without Curry's performance?

(01:58:19):
I don't know, maybe not. He had thirty six points
to help defeat Serbia in the semi finals, and then
he turned around and had twenty four points in the
gold medal game against France. He put the two together.
He was seventeen or twenty six from behind the arc,
and these in games were the kind of became three

(01:58:41):
point shooting contest. I think if there are such a
thing as most Important Player, maybe Curry gets that it's
a tournament award. I think, you know a lot of
people have said Steph Curry deserved the MVP, not because
Lebron wasn't great. He was, but when you step up
when those pivotal moments. Look those first four you had

(01:59:02):
to win six games. Those first four games were duck
soup man. They went to the US won by like
one hundred and twenty points, and Lebron had a lot
to do with that. Okay, he was a force of nature,
did give the manage due but in the final two
games that it mattered most to secure goal. This becomes
one of those arguments as a fisher file you never know,
you know, never Jordan versus the one. People are never

(01:59:22):
going to submit. But I will say that a lot
of smart people think, yeah, James had better overall, numbers,
but Curry was when it mattered most into biggest games,
brought the gold home. Here's what adds fuel to the conversation,
and here's what the twist is. Brian Windhorst reported two

(01:59:43):
days ago that apparently the MVP voting started before the
semi final game, so there were allegedly or extensively votes
cast before Curry played either of those two final games.
Now in the voting you could vote on there's a
QR code on the wall apparently, and they opened the

(02:00:05):
voting like two days before the end of the tournament,
before the semi finals. And what reasonable person? Again, this
is where I overthink things. Why would you vote then
unless you had to? Why wouldn't you wait till the
tournament was completely final? So now the Olympics are facing
backlash for the decision. Fans have the same question that

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Brian Windhorst had about the voting being opened so early,
and clearly that had to help Lebron. You don't want
to diminish the award that Lebron earned, but it raises
a question, and again, how are you gonna have an
Olympics without some kind of controversy. Some people don't think
it was rigged for Lebron. I don't know, man, I'm
not a conspiracy theorist. I'm just an overthinker. It's going

(02:00:50):
to do it for the Bernie Frattle Show again. I'll
be back on these airwaves tonight eleven pm. Saturday Night,
eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Got a massive
show planned for you. Don't miss it, or your first
in line for a frontal lobotomy, all kinds of NFL
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