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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is that time of week. My name is Bernie Fraddle.
We are come to you live from the Fox Sports
Radio studios here in Las Vegas. We'll take you up
to three am Pacific, six am Eastern and Absolute jam
Pack Show. This is a very notable weekend, and I
will explain why in a second. But we've got to
get to some college football, some NFL of course, the

(00:21):
minn our three raucous topics tonight. Look forward to hearing
from you on that great guest in NFL guessed at
about twenty minutes, and of course in the final hour
brand new fool and what my name? Plenty of high
jinks and of course we'll look forward to your calls
about an hour from now at eight seven seven nine
nine six six three sixty nine. But as I said,

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this is a very notable weekend. Why this is the
last weekend until mid February where there's no football now
work with me. The Hall of Fame game is five
days away. It's next Thursday night Detroit and the Chargers.
And there's technically not football games next weekend, but they
are the Hall of Fame induction ceremonies and Thursdays kind

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of like the first Friday for some people. You know
where I'm going with that. So starting next weekend, here
comes the freight train. We'll all be in the bliss
of tranquility, swimming in the sea of all kinds of football.
By the way, just twenty six days until your first
college football game. There's a slate. There are four games Saturday,

(01:32):
August twenty third, and oh, by the way, and about
well after they've been nine hours to night, We're gonna
dive into heavily. There are five very prominent storylines that
I guarantee you will dominate college football at least the
first month and could all year, and I'm gonna dive

(01:54):
into all of them. I'll give you a little teas
we have to do with arch Manning out of the
you know, no for the Wicked. He goes to Ohio
State to make his debut as a starter. Well, he
started some games before, but they've handed they've handed to
the keys of the car now all right, and the
aforementioned Ohio State or they do for an encore. I
know people who think they can repeat. Folks in Michigan

(02:15):
don't even consider their championship legitimate because they lost to Michigan.
You know, how that goes. How about Georgia and Alabama.
You know, every single season since twenty fourteen, either Alabama
or Georgia has played for the SEC title, and they
played against each other three times in those eleven years,
but both seasons for both ended very disappointing. Last year.

(02:38):
We're going to talk about the outlooks for Georgia Alabama
and their situations and then their post Travis Center, Shador Sanders,
Eric Colorado starts won't have nearly the well, let's say
that for a little later. And then finally, mister Belichick
is coaching at North Carolina, some calling it the thirty
third NFL team. Folks I know and trust and the

(03:02):
Betty markets don't have a hell of a lot of
faith in what they might do. But save that a
material for later. We're gonna we're gonna get to all
of it. I just want to get something off my
chest here because, uh, I don't know, I might be
the only human being that actually will defend Jerry Jones.
It's become fashionable to beat him like a rented mule

(03:24):
or like Bob Barker in the original you know, Happy Gilmore. Uh,
you want a piec of me? I want the whole thing.
The price is wrong, Beyonce. All right, well, Jerry Jones
is the favorite, you know, whipping Boy. Fine you you
you get your own ten point one billion dollar franchise.

(03:45):
And yeah, I know they haven't won the damn things
since Moby Dick was a Minto, but he does have
three World World Series Super Bowl championships. Here's where I'm
going with this. There's either real outrage or fake outrage,
depending on how you really feel. And Jerry's running his
old playbook, and this time the protagonist is Michael Parsons.

(04:06):
Let me just add some inflection here. Why who knows?
Why does Jerry do this? Maybe he's afraid if he
signs a guy too soon, then he gets hurt in
camp he screwed. Remember last year he signed Dak Prescott
about five minutes for the season started. Or maybe he
just wants to hold onto his money until the last second,
which a lot of people do. But who winds up

(04:27):
benefiting every time? The players? They always end up getting more.
So do you, I mean, do you really believe Dak
is worth sixty million perreer?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Now?

Speaker 1 (04:37):
The latest culprit Michael Parsons twenty six year old defensive whiz.
I like Michael Parsons a lot. He's worth every penny.
I like the way he plays, I love his attitude,
I love his work ethic fifty three sacks and two
first team All Pro nons in his first four seasons.
But he, like others, are waiting. He's still waiting for
a contract extension that would make him the highest paid

(05:01):
edge rusher in football. And Jerry Jones is talking like
an owner who might just not make that deal. He
had suggested he didn't even know parsons agent's name, and
last week he exaggerated parsons very minimal injury history. And yes,
Micah's rookie contract runs out after this season. If you've

(05:21):
seen this movie before, which seems to be a theme
right now, how about it all started in September nineteen
ninety three. I remember this very well. Dallas was coming
off there first Super Bowl win with the Jimmy Johnson group.
They had beaten Buffalo seven months eight months earlier, and

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Emmitt Smith held out for the first two games of
the season because he said he wanted to quote Thurman
Thomas money Le. After the Cowboys started zero to two
without Emmett Smith who went on to become a Hall
of Famer in the all time rushing King. Jerry Jones
basically acknowledged the reporters quote, well, I guess the leverage
pendulum has swung because of the loss. Jones gave Smith

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more than Thomas made from the Bills, and Dallas went
on to beat Buffalo in the Super Bowl five months later,
went on to win another Super Bowl two years after that.
But Jerry developed a body at work after that. This
turned out to be a very familiar pattern. Fast forward
a few decades. All of a sudden, Jerry Jones hadn't

(06:31):
forgotten the old tricks. Twenty six years later, July twenty nineteen,
Ezekiel Elliott held out. He said, quote, you don't have
to have a rushing champion to win the Super Bowl,
Jerry Jones said, And Ezekiel Elliott he was the second culprit.

(06:52):
But what did Jerry finally do? He gave Ezekiel Elliott
the largest running back contract in league history. And where
did that get Jerry? Yeah, I know, I know, You're
you're gonna cry the river, You're gonna take up a
collection plate. No you're not. Well, it did end up
in a bunch of dead cap money, but Zeke got

(07:13):
paid pseudonymic Four years later, August to twenty twenty three,
Jerry Jones said, quote, you got to put that one
on and say we just move on here without him.
He was talking about All Pro guard Zach Martin, and
Zach Martin said, hell, I'll sit out too. Jerry Jones
said at the time, and this is easily researched, that

(07:37):
he needed to preserve money to eventually pay wait for it,
Michael Parsons, I don't know if anybody's reminded Jerry of
that in the past few weeks. Oh. By the way,
Jerry also caved into Zach Martin's demands three for three
Abbott Smith, Ezekiel Elliott, Elliott, Zach Martin not to be outdone.

(08:00):
Just a year ago now, when he was talking about
a certain receiver, Jerry says, I don't quote, I don't
have any urgency to get it done. While Ceedee Lamb
waited for a mega extension. Well, the receiver replied loll
In tweet for him. Jerry then later made Ceede Lamb

(08:24):
the second highest paid wide receiver in the league. Now,
Jerry isn't always necessarily inflammatory or hostile toward his stars,
because I haven't been able to find any flippant remarks
about Dak Prescott last year as the side seemingly quietly

(08:44):
negotiated their mega deal and the public standofs between Jones
and people like Emma Smith and Ezekiel Elliott and Zach
Martin at Ceedee Lamb were fleeting and they ended up
being pointless. Jerry Jones, he is a capitalist. He's a
wildcat oil guy who does things his way. He's eighty

(09:06):
two years old. He's trade to squeeze every bit, every
last bit out of the juice out of the oar.
Whatever the hell is the metaphor is? You know what
I'm trying to say that he can't. He's also a
bit of a showman. He's got everybody talking about him.
And the opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
You have to care. People seem to care about this guy,

(09:26):
and I think on some level maybe Jerry Jones takes
a perverse pleasure and enjoys this. Is it a situation
where Jerry has some sort of secret master plan or
can he just not help himself? I don't know. He's
got ten point billion reasons not to share what he's
doing with you or me. There's no question Jerry Lew's football.

(09:51):
He played out on Arkansas team that won a national championship.
He's owned the most prominent NFL franchise now for what
thirty five years. He fired Tom Larny, which turned out
to be the best decision. And oh, by the way,
and his hobby in spare time, he likes to negotiate
contracts now. In his business life, certainly from the oil

(10:13):
and gas side to real estate, I'd say he's won
most of the time. Football. You can make it up yourself.
Hate him all you want. You trade the haters want
to beat him. Don't act like you don't now, Jerry,
I'll tell you one deal he won. He bought the
Cowboys in nineteen eighty nine for one hundred and forty

(10:33):
million dollars. One hundred and forty million dollars and they're
worth over ten billion now, now I get it. Recently,
he hasn't been winning when it comes to the deals
with top players, because after Prescott eventually became the highest
paid player, it's sixty million per season. Most of other
quarterbacks would tomp that. But it hasn't happened, and I
don't think it will. But Prescott, Elliott, Lamb, Martin and

(10:57):
des Bryant have all event truly got what they wanted.
If you don't think the same is gonna happen for
Michael Parsons, you haven't been paying attention. Jones isn't about
pr strategy. I don't know. He's having fun. The holdouts

(11:18):
they cause angst for people who have nothing involved in
the game. It cracks me up. People go on the airwaves.
I'm not trying to out anybody, but it feels like
fake outrage. It really does. And I haven't heard all
the shows, so I don't know. But it never seems
to bother Jerry, So why does it bother you. I
think he's having fun. I'm having fun watching the theater again,

(11:40):
and that will conclude this evening's information about Jerry Jones.
But I will say this, He's eighty two years old
and he's unlikely to change. So I don't know who
the culprit may or may not be next year. I
guess we'll just have to wait and find out. By
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Speaker 1 (12:52):
All right back in the Bernie Frattles Show Fox Sports Radio.
Come you live from the Las Vegas studios. We'll take
you up to three m Pacific, six amaster. Let's welcome
in a gentleman, a very busy man. I'm always glad
when I can get him. It's been on our show
many times. He's an award winning NFL College Football Writers
sp Nations Sports Illustrated, co founder of The Leap the

(13:13):
Packers Newsletter. Say hello to Jason Hershorn. Jason, good to
talk to you again.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Good evening, Bernie.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
How is it going good? Buddy? And I think we're
going to dive right in because I know how busy
you are. There are four teams I've identified the that
are really kind of sucking all the air out of
the room, and it might be for quite a while.

(13:40):
So I'm going to start with the Chicago Bears. I'm
very familiar with Ben Johnson's coaching style and the fact
that Kayla Willims I don't dislike him, but he likes
playground football. Is this gonna work in Chicago? Because Ben
coaches hard and yells a lot. What are your thoughts, Jason, So.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Anyone who has a strong opinion on this is just
telling themselves a story. It doesn't mean that it will work,
doesn't mean that it won't work, But there are just
too many variables to account for at this time. Caleb
Williams basically had that wasn't a red shirt rookie year,
obviously because he played, but a year thing really just
can't use for purposes of evaluation in some ways. It's

(14:17):
a lot like the season that Trevor Lawrence had as
a rookie with the Jags, where the coaching staff just
did not put him in a position to succeed, and
the results feet for themselves. Now, that doesn't mean that
there's all this built in improvement, right, there are some
changes that Caleb Billis is gonna have to undergo, not
just to match what Ben Johnson and the Bears coaches
have wants to do, but just some of the things

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you have to do in the NFL as a quarterback,
regardless of who you are. So there's gonna be a
lot of adjustment. But if he's able to make those adjustments,
and these are not necessarily physical things, we know he's
not limited in that regard. This is gonna be a
lot of adjustments to the playing style that he had
at USC at Oklahoma and trying to meld what he
does well with the things that Ben Johnson wants to sympathize.

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And we just won't have that answer for a while.
It's not even just something we're gonna have to wait
through training can to find and we have to wait
through probably most of the season for we start to
have an idea of what that offense with Caleb Williams
under center can really do. If it hits his apex,
then that could be not probably this season, but down
the line, one of the best offense in the NFL.
We know Ben Jonson has that level of creativity, We

(15:23):
know that Caleb Williams has the arm talent to do
things that very few quarterbacks can do. But there are
so many ifs involved that I just don't think that
anyone's going to have a strong opinion at this time.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Well, it's well said. Having covered the lines myself for
ten years, I know that coaches lowed negative plays from
the quarterback, and so when you have a guy that
tries to make hero plays, it ends up creating bad
you know, down a distance situation, long yardage downs. And
I think that's the biggest fear. Can this kid sit
in the pocket and run the offense the way it's

(15:55):
supposed to run or is he going to defaul to
his mechanism, which he's done his entire life, And if
he does, how long would the leash be?

Speaker 4 (16:04):
I think that's fair. But it's also worth pointing out
that at USC, especially that last season, a lot of
the hero ball the kind of the playground tactics that
we saw it not work out in the NFL through
year one. Those are the things they really had to do.
He didn't have a lot of support from the schematics.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
I know he can.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Riley has done a lot of great things in college generally,
but that last year together at USC, he just didn't
have a lot to offer Caleb Williams and the talents
are round capable of the US really forced him to
play outside of the structure of that offense and to
certainly when you saw that last year too. So yeah,
he can't succeed long term doing nothing but playground football.

(16:43):
And it is also fair to say that he didn't
have a lot of alternatives in twenty twenty four with
the Bears with what that staff was offering him. Now
that's likely to change. This is going to be a
much more structured operation, but in terms of what it
expected from the quarterback on a day to day level,
but in terms of what he's going to have to
do it at a given play. That's the adjustment he's
going to have to make. But it is going to

(17:04):
be a very different set of circumstances around. Caleb believes
and because all those things are different. I really feel
that we have to sit back and let the answer
comes up. I don't think we can really guess on
that one.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
You're spot on, You're spot on. So let's move on
to the New York Jets, new coach, new quarterback. I
feel essentially the same about Justin Fields. He's fourteen and thirty.
As a starter, I think his default mechanism is to run.
I'm not sure what Aaron Glenn can do there. I
mean that there's the other Lions half in New York.
What can you expect realistically from the Jets and Aaron

(17:35):
Glenn and Justin Fields?

Speaker 4 (17:36):
This year, with Justin Field, I think we have a
lot more to go off of. That's just because he's
played a lot more football in the NFL. But we've
seen him in a variety of different contests with different
coaching staffs, different offenses, you know, with the Bears of
their first few years and then with the Steelers last year,
and we've seen some consistencies in the way that he
plays the game, and those are not necessarily positive. He

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is a player who is extremely fit. We get that
one of the best pure runners at the quarterack position.
We have ever seen, and someone who has a really
strong arm and can make some good throws down the field.
But it's kind of everything else that has really tricked
him up. Some of the layups that coaching staffs recently
have been giving their quarterbacks. You know, we starting with

(18:18):
rpo games things like that. Those have never been a
strength of Justin Fields in the NFL. And you look
at what the Lions in les year. Not that it's
going to be the same offense in New York, but
it is an offensive Cordner who was a part of
that Detroit Lions coaching staff, you expected to have some
of those things brought with him to New York. And
those are just areas of the game that Justin Field

(18:40):
has not thrived in at any point in his NFL career.
So they gave him a two year contract, it's really
more like a one year deal. I think they know that, like,
barring an unforeseen development, this is really going to be
like a one year band aid situation for Fields, and
they're going to move on to a different quarterback next year,
somebod who's probably not in the organization as of right now.

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But this is kind of the way it works for
a lot of these first year coaching sets. They find
something they feel like can get them through the year
as well as possible, and they set themselves up for
a more expansive roster makeover going into year two.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
We're talking with Jason Hirsharn, been on my show many times.
He's a gifted writer, NFL College Football, Espionation, Sports Illustrated creator,
the Leap co founder, which is the Packers newsletter. Let's
jump to Pittsburgh. I'm going to take a shot here.
I'm not trying to lead the witness. I actually assuming

(19:40):
they stay healthy. I actually think Pittsburgh is going to
be better than people realize. They've won ten games and
used to the last two seasons with Kenny Pickett and
Russell Wilson and Justin fields act last year. What are
you hearing out of Pittsburgh? You know, the locker room,
the vibe, and you know the whole situation with respect

(20:00):
to Aaron Rodgers and him acclimating himself in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
It is probably too early to know how Aaron Rodgers
is fitting into that locker room because so many of
those players just haven't spent much time with him. You know,
he was not there for the earliest parts of the
offense in programent. Now he did get there eventually. It's
not like there is a medium for the first time
as players report to training camp, but it's still a
lot of new in that sense. In terms of the
locker room chemistry, I don't know that we have a

(20:28):
full answer on that, and won't probably have an answer
on that for some time. But if their principal pieces
stay healthy, both on offense and defense. By the way,
this is an old team on both sides of the ball,
I do think they could have a decent year record wise.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
That's also something you.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Could say about almost any Mike Tomlin team right like
the floor for those teams are just very, very high. Now,
I do think that health permitting, Aaron Rodgers, even at
this stage of his career, is going to be forty
two this December, is a better quarterback than the Pittsford
Steelers had last year. However, it is still going to

(21:04):
be I think a kind of awkward mexically what Aaron
Rodgers liked to do really at the end of his
career and what the Steelers have tried to do at
least this past season with Arthur Smith to the offensive
coordinator Arthur Smith has a very structured offense. In some ways,
it's similar to what the Packers did with Matt Lafleur
and Aaron Rodgers during those years, but it differs in
this sense. They probably don't want to give Rogers as

(21:27):
much a leagueway with some of the adjustments both pre
snap and basically within the play that he's had for
the majority of his career. If you Aaron Rodgers, you're
a four time MVP, you feel like that's a given
that you're going to have that kind of flexibility. So
managing that If you remember, going back to twenty nineteen,
Matt Lafleur's first year in Green Bay, that was a
big topic of discussion there with Rogers, and that was
Aaron Rodgers lock closer to his peak. So I think

(21:50):
that's the situation that's going to have to be managed
and maybe massage throughout the year because Aaron Rodgers can
still make pretty much any throw In terms of just
his I don't think he's actually all that diminished, but
it's every other part of his game that has changed.
He obviously does not move around as well as he
did even in his late thirties, you know, the results
of aging, results of that achilities injury had a few

(22:12):
years ago, and that's not something you can just write off.
Like the ability to extend place, even within the pocket
was such a big part of Rodgers' game at every
point in his career. It is as diminished now as
it's ever been. And I still think there are ways
that he plays where he's not getting rid of the
ball as soon as he needs to, given that he
can't extend the way that he did when he was younger.

(22:32):
And I don't know how much tolerance the Steels are
going to have for that. You know, maybe they find
a happy medium, and that's a team that can really
take you know, a lot of little they can dunk
and then the deep shots when they need to, because
Rogers can still do that if he's healthy. But maybe
they never find that rhythm and it becomes kind of
an awkward mix throughout the year. I really don't know
at this point. I don't know the Steelers know either.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Spot On, I get the feeling you're going to see
Aaron Rodgers more under center than he has been for
a long time. I think you'll see a run first
attack and more play action. That's what I'm hearing are
you hearing that as well?

Speaker 4 (23:07):
So I do think you're right that the Steelers want
to play more under center. I think it's a very
very good point. And I don't think Aaron Rodgers is
against using play action, but there's a definitely the way
that Aaron Rodgers historically like to use play action and
the way that the Steelers do. The Steelers want that
quarterback under center and then turning his back to the
defense for those play action plays, and Aaron Rodgers really

(23:30):
doesn't like having his back turn back to defense at
any point in time, and really never has. Like there
were years where he was made to do it and
it was successful, but just wasn't something that he ever
really liked. And I wonder how much of their office
is going to be tailor to Aaron rodgers preference in
that regard, Like there are a lot of play action
concepts that you can run out of pistol instead of
under center or out of shotgun under center. It changes

(23:51):
the effectiveness of those plays, but it might make Rogers
a little more comfortable with him. Is that a compromise
they're willing to make? Again, that's part of that process
where we were just talking about if the Steelers can
find a happy meeting with Rogers, I think it can,
then certain expectations work, but it might just see awkward
because the Steelers are definitely going to have to bend
more to Rogers than they did with Russell Wilson justin
fields last year, and I don't know how much that's

(24:14):
going to work for them. If Aaron Rodgers look the
say he getting dinged up, and you know he's able
to play, but he's not able to play as well
as he would when he was outhy. If that happens
and you have all this other stuff moving around like
it could go south very quickly. I just don't know
at this point. There's so many questions with everything going
on in the situation that, like we were talking about
with the Bears and Caleb Boys, I.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
Think we just wait and see how that flies out.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I'm guessing. You know, it's got a pretty good receiver
corp with DK Metcalf, Calvin Austin and Robert Woods and
Pat Firemouth. Is no slatch it tight end. You just
may see a lot of match protect sets, three step drops,
you know, and you know, get the ball out quick
and let your receivers catch the ball and run. You

(24:58):
may see that. I think they may to simplify it,
but you're right. Everything you said is right, and there
are just simply a lot of unknowns with the Bears
and the Jets and Pittsburgh. So now I'm going to
get to the team that really has me scratching my
head because I have never and I don't think i'll
ever live to see today where a team keeps four
quarterbacks and a fifty three man roster. So in the

(25:21):
Cleveland Browns depth chart, no doubt in my mind is
Flacco one pick at two, and I know it's Dylan
Gabriel three and shed her for who I have my opinions,
but I don't want to lead to witness who's the
odd man out.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
So I do think there is a scenario or the
key four quarterbacks, but you are right, it is not
something that's common. And basically the years where we've seen
a team keep four quarterback it was almost universally because
they didn't have a quarterback they like.

Speaker 7 (25:46):
The only exception that I.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Could find over the last about like twenty five plus
years or maybe twenty six years, was that first year
that Tom Produce with the Patriots and they kept him
as a fourth quarterback.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
That's nice. Yeah, I know the whole story. Yeah, it's yes,
I know the whole story. Cold yeh, go go ahead.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
But that the anomveloe, right, Like in most cases, if
you're keeping even three quarterbacks on the fifty three man roster,
it's usually a sign that there's some questions about the starter. Now,
you said that you expected to be Joe Flacco. I
think you're probably right. I would say the smart money
right now is not either Flacco or Kenny Piggott to
be the starting quarterback in Week one, and the fact

(26:26):
they have four quarterbacks is going to make it very
difficult to manage the rest in practice. And also the
snaps only gets the preseason games, and I don't know
how many stats they really need to give Joe Flacco
this morning his career, like you kind of know what
he's going to be. I imagine that over the course
of the preseason they're going to give a few more
to Picket to see what he can do with that offense,
and then especially with those rookies. But at some point
they are going to have to take some of those

(26:48):
stats away from the guys in the back of the
depth chart even ify douys a thing like, it's just
the way that you have to manage things to prepare
for the regular season. Now, I don't think that they
can either one of those rookies that expect that player
then up back on their practice squad.

Speaker 7 (27:04):
It's at a third round pick.

Speaker 8 (27:05):
On Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
It's really hard, not possible, but really hard to cut
a third round pick going into their rookie year Ansdeorg
Sanders and something they only shut a fifth round pick on.
But you have to feel like if you let him
go into the waiver wire, another team is going to
claim in, so you have to be very careful there.
And that's why I think they might end up keeping four.
But this is a situation where I expect them to

(27:28):
go through at least two certain quarterbacks throughout the season.
More likely three and four is absolutely on the table.
That is just the situation they find themselves then going
into twenty twenty five, with everything that's going on in
that quarterback room over the last few years.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
This is why I love having you, Jason. It's an
excellent reference going back to two thousand Tom Brady's rookie season,
the Pats kept Drew Bledsoe, John Freeze, Michael Bishop, and
Tom Brady. And there were eight coaches in the room
that voted whether or not to keep Brady, and seven
voted no, and the only yes vote was Bill Belichick
because it was foresight and they kept him. He only

(28:05):
played one game. It's a game I covered. It was
at the Silverdome. The Pats lost thirty four to nine
to the Lions that night, and Brady completed one pass,
one pass for like six yards. The fourth quarterback on
this JEP chart, though, was Shudor Sanders. Why do not
really necessarily believe is a major league quarterback? It's not
buying the hype. You're right, I believe Flacco will start

(28:29):
Kenny Picktt. People can make fun of him all they want,
but he's fifteen and ten is a starter, so at
least he has twenty five starts as a professional as
an NFL quarterback. I see more in Dylan Gabriel than
I think people give him credit for. I saw him
pick apart in Michigan and have great games at Oklahoma
and Oregon in bigger stages than Shodor Sanders has. So
I'm not going to disavow the fact that You're right,
they make key for but the fourth one this time

(28:52):
is Shodor Sanders and not Tom Brady.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Yeah, it's really hard to see Eddie quarterback. It's becoming
Tom Brady let alone, someone who is coming in with
a very different set of expectations than Tom Brady did
in two thousand. But it's more than this too, Right,
like the Patriots when Tom Brady first joined then had
fairly recently been to the Super Bowl. I think it
had been like four years earlier.

Speaker 9 (29:15):
There saw a.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Lot of pieces from that team there, and this Brown
seam has had success under Kevin Stefanski, but we're talking
about a very different looking roster and this might be
the final year the Kevin Stefanski and that general manager
in that front office. And guess if things are not successful,
so that could lead to them scrambling throughout the year

(29:36):
to find solutions. If they, let's say, start with Blacko
and it doesn't go well, how quickly do they pull
the cord on him and go to Pickett? And then
if that doesn't work, which I don't know how that
will go because I don't know that we truly have
a have a real idea what Kenny Pickett is in
the NFL given the situations that he has been in
so far, Let's say that happens. So that doesn't go well.
Now you're on to the rookies and you're talking about real,

(30:00):
real hot seat situations at that point, not just for
the quarterbacks before everybody in that organization. So that's situation
I expect to evolve repeatedly over the course of the
twenty twenty five season.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Well, I do I have heard that Jimmy Haslim absolutely
loves arch Manning, and you may see. I don't know
if he'll be a Cleveland Brown in twenty twenty six,
but this whole deal in Cleveland may be a one
year deal as well. Let me finish up Jason with

(30:33):
the Las Vegas Raiders and Pete Carroll. I would have
just asked you your general outlook, what your thoughts are.
I am not confident the Raiders will win more than
six or seven games. But now this Christian Wilkins situation
has emerged, can you shed some light on that.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
It's a little strange, right, Like, this is not the
first time a high profile free agent has flamed out
with a team after one season, but this is the
situation where it seemed even a few weeks ago that
Christian Wilkins was not healthy, that he might miss the
start of the regular seasons, but he was still going
to be a part of the twenty twenty five Raiders.

(31:10):
Now comes out that the team and the players disagreed
on what they needed to do to rehab his injury,
his foot injury, and that ultimately led to the disagreement,
led to the disillusion of the contract, and ultimately the
grievance has been filed about his release because the Raiders
voided all the remaining guarantees in his contract.

Speaker 10 (31:31):
So I actually don't know.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
How it's going to play out, not because of the
Wilkins component or the Raiders component, because that grievance was
filed with the NFLPA, And if your listeners is paying attention,
that organization is going through their own firestorm right now.
So there were all these moving pieces involved. But as
for Wilkins, I don't think that we're going to see
him at some point this year. You had Mike Rabel

(31:55):
speaking earlier this weekend talking about that as someone that
they would at least talk about bringing out of That
doesn't mean that he's healthy enough. The player that would
clear a physical. But if they're talking about it, that
seems to provide some indication of where other teams believe
he is in the recovery process and to be someone
who other teams believe is going to be able to
play in the not terribly distant future. That says a
lot about what the waiters thought, right Like, this is

(32:15):
a player who may have been ready to contribute at
some point, maybe within the first months to two months
of the season, but they felt like was not worth
keeping around, at least at the price they were going
to have to pay. They felt they could get out
of that contract save that money. And I can understand
what they wanted to do that if that avenue is
really available to them, because they gave a lot of
money to Christian Wilkins at a time where they didn't

(32:36):
really have the runway to compete for anything of value,
right like they could have maybe if everything had broken
right for them in twenty twenty four, stuck in the
playoffs and that was not a team that anyone expected
with the talent that they had, especially a quarterback, to
compete for a Super Bowl. Well, I think they kind
of accepted that. That's where they are now, and maybe
getting out of the Wilkins contract if they had a
real reason or real excuse to get.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Out of it.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Out of those guarantees had been the best financial avenue
for them because it frees up funds again if the
grievance goes their way to use them players, not necessarily
this year, but in the future, because they don't have
many players on that roster that you can say our
core pieces. They have Max Crosby just gave him a
new deal, so obviously they see him being there for
a little while at least. But you have Geno Smith, who,

(33:20):
even though they traded for and extended, he is going
to be thirty five this season. You don't know how
long that runway really is just given his age. So
maybe be looking at a new quarterback next year or
soon thereafter. If that's not the case, and you're talking
about a new centerpiece of the offense with Aston Jens
presumably there for support, and then a defense that again

(33:41):
doesn't have a ton of core pieces outside of Max Crosby.
The entire identity of that roster is going to shift
in whole likelihood within the next twelve months. And getting
the money back to Christian Wilkins. You know, as unsavory
as the process may be, could be the thing that
helps them jump start that rebuilding process.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Jason, Great, I know it'll be a busy yer for you.

Speaker 9 (34:01):
Have fun, pal well, I appreciate you having me on.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Bernie, Take care always. That's Jason Hrshorn SB Nation Sports
Illustrated Award winning NFL College football writer. Clearly you can
see he has his finger on the pulse. We are
eighteen minutes away from the midnight hour here in Las Vegas.
Get your fingers limbered up. Eight seven seven nine nine
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(34:27):
Lee Hacksaw Hamilton once said, I'm Bernie Fraddle. Will come
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Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie
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(34:51):
and in eleven minutes check that ten minutes. It is
the midnight hour. Here in Las Vegas, it's midnight literally
where I live, perhaps where you live as well, but
figuratively the mid that hour means you get the last word.
These are our three topics tonight. Well, it turns out
the NFL is cracking down on players and team employees

(35:14):
that look to make some extra cash by selling their
Super Bowl tickets. One hundred players, two dozen club employees,
and many more are being fined and chastised. Here's my
question to you. Where are you weighing on this. Is
it like, well, they got the tickets, they can do
what they want with them, or you know, it's kind
of a privilege to be able to get this. Do

(35:35):
you really need the extra money if you're an NFL player,
it's a bad form. I don't know. If you've ever
bought something for somebody and it was regifted, how do
you feel about that? If you got Super Bowl tickets
and you're an NFL player again, I guess take sides.
Are you on the player's side saying it's their business,
it's their property, they can do what they want with
it if you don't like it too bad, kick rocks?

(35:58):
Or is it a situation where you know discretion is
the better part of valor. Could you maybe use a
little bit better judgment and not do this? And I
think this is a situation. Players are going to be
fined one and a half what they paid for their tickets,
they won't be able to buy tickets for the next
two Super Bowls unless they're playing in them, and club

(36:18):
employees are going to be fined even more. So it's
just not a good look. That's my take. But I
don't have a hard opinion, but a lot of people do,
and I want to hear yours because my callers are phenomenal.
Eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six sixty three sixty nine.
So the second topic, Look, I wasn't here this last week,
but this is a story that's just getting started. It's not,

(36:39):
you know, fresh, it's fresh, it's maybe a few days old.
But where am I going with this?

Speaker 6 (36:44):
You know?

Speaker 1 (36:45):
The WNBA All Star Game is supposed to be a celebration,
a showcase of whatever. This league says they have star power,
you tell me athleticism, they say they have a growing reach,
but instead, once again, they're stuck on stupid. Everybody's got
to play Mickey the Duntz and they spark one of
the most contentions online debates the league has ever faced.

(37:08):
Just saw the t shirts. These are the facts, man.
The WNBA has never turned to profit in their twenty
nine year history. They've lost an estimated one point five
billion since their inception in nineteen ninety seven. Their annual
losses are around ten million for most of its existence,
but that jumped to fifty million in twenty twenty four.
Despite the revenue's growing, the league has nothing but financial

(37:34):
struggles and the players want more for playing forty games
in a game very few people watch. I'm not denigrating it.
They deserve to be here, I guess as long as
Richmond want to bail them out. And I know they
got this upcoming two point two million media deal, dollar
media deal, but the you know, you tell me you
couldn't make a case bird. Get's wrong with you? Man?

(37:56):
They deserve to be paid. Okay, where somebody's supposed to
come from? Just tell me or no, this is wrong. Okay.
There's one thing that's clear. I don't know how many
fans watch games, but apparently they seem to have watched
the books. And the truth of the matter is there's
a growing frustration between the real financial sustainability of whatever

(38:20):
the hell the NBA is, and the perceived entitlement of
these players who seem to be very angry. This is
not funny, but let's face it, there's real significant questions
about even the increasing revenues which are expected to exceed
I think next year a billion, the WNBA is still

(38:40):
unlikely to break even because they've got higher expenses. Now,
so who's going to make these people hold for the
one point five billion they're out before they get more? Finally,
remembering ho Cogan a very complex individual, you know his
background will get into it. So how do you feel
about the NFL players selling their tickets? Who sat do
you on?

Speaker 2 (38:59):
On the end?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
W she'd checked that the WNBA? You know where I'm
going with this, and give me your thoughts on hul Cogan?
How do you remember Haul Cogan? Eight seven seven nine
nine six six three six nine eight seven seven ninety
nine one Fox dial them up, let's hear it from you.
It's the men that hour on the Bernie fraddle Show
Fox Sports Radio. Well that's right, you heard the man.
Bernie Fraddles show keeps rolling right along. My name is

(39:22):
Bernie Frowner. We are come to your line from the
Fox Sports radio compound here in La Vegas. Take it
to three m Pacific, six am Eastern. We are just
getting started, and yes, I repeat. The WNBA has never
turned to profit in their twenty nine year history. They've
lost about a billion and a half since their inception
in nineteen ninety seven. Their annual losses are north of

(39:45):
ten million every year, fifty million last year. Yet they
turned the All Star Game, which is supposed to be
a celebration, into a pitching match with some stupid T shirts.
You know where I'm going with that? Make your case
they deserve a raise? How why you explain? All right?
The NFL players get tickets every year, they buy them
for the Super Bowl, and some folks turned around, about

(40:07):
one hundred of them, man, some PLUB employees, and sold them.
Are you on their side? Is it their ticket to
do what they want their property? Or is it like
regifting something? Is it it's a bad look for me
to see this. You may have a different thought and
give me your thoughts on remembering Halcog and a very
complex individual. It's right, It's time for the Midnight Hour

(40:28):
eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
ninety six six three. Because now we go out to
the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts and welcome in.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Jim.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Hey, Jim, where you been, buddy?

Speaker 2 (40:40):
I was in Brazil for a month?

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Wow? Good for you, Good for you hopefully.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, the barbecue and kashasser and on the beach.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
You know, all right, let's hear it from you.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
That's all right. Here's here's the deal to start with
about the ticket who kids, Let them do what they
want with the tickets they get them. It's it's like
it's like your company giving you a bonus for working,
but they're going to tell you how to spend it.

Speaker 11 (41:10):
You know, just let it go.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
What they got other things to worry about. Just let
them do what they want with the tickets. But crying it,
there's there's you know, all right, you.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Know, and you think with the tickets, I've been a
friend way four times. If you Jim, uh, he said, Brini,
I'm giving you two tickets behind ho play tonight. Oh thanks, Jim,
and I take them. And then you found out I
sold them. How would you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Well, what's the difference. You couldn't go with something like that.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
You said, Okay, I don't want to believe different reasons.
That's the WNBA.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Oh my god, you know, let them crash and burn.
I don't think they're going to resolve it. Do you
mean to tell me they're holding up with more money
and everything. After all that's been going on. They got
rid of the commissioner, they got rid of a four
or five repor rest of his collusion, letting Caitlin Clock
get killed, and then they want more money. You gotta
be kidding me. That's not going anywhere.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
I dare them to walk out. I dare them, double
triple dog dare them from Christmas story, you know, back
and I think it was oh one when Davis deurned
with your missioner the w NBA threatened to walk out.
He says, fine, don't come back. He would have shut
the league down on that. Shut him up right there.
Thoughts on hul Copan, you.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Know Hall colg and I was a kid like when
he came through.

Speaker 9 (42:32):
I mean he was.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
He was a once in a lifetime phenomenon, you know,
and you know, God bless him. He did a lot
for the country, did a lot, you know, for children
and stuff like that.

Speaker 9 (42:44):
I mean it's probad of.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Like might have been crazy but whose private life isn't crazy?

Speaker 12 (42:47):
You know.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
But as far as leaving the world a better place
since he's been here, I got to tip my hat to.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Him, you know, Jim Beckham the saddle, welcome back Stateside.
Good to hear from you, man. We'll see you next
week hopefully. Emit an Olympia or didn't say Washington? Or
when I'm just kidding, Washington? How's it going, Emmitt?

Speaker 5 (43:06):
No, A couple of people say Washington, so.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
I hate that when they do. That's stupid. I don't
see I know, right, I don't go ahead.

Speaker 13 (43:12):
It's so weird Washington.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
Washington's a perfect name for it.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
I mean, it's rainy all the time.

Speaker 9 (43:18):
It makes sense.

Speaker 11 (43:18):
But I'll start with the NFL.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
I mean, honestly, you were saying that you don't really care,
and I kind of agree in a way because I
understand both sides of the matter.

Speaker 13 (43:27):
It's okay.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
First off, you get these tickets and you sell them.
I mean, yeah, make a little bit of money off it.

Speaker 11 (43:32):
Why not?

Speaker 5 (43:33):
That's what like me is thinking. Who doesn't have like
a five million dollar contract or whatever they have.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
You know, here's the thing. It because I've been to
three Super Bowls in my life? Who's a fan? Only
covered one O six in Detroit, seale in Pittsburgh. And
it's a two week convention by the NFL. Yeah, with
a game at the end. It's a spectac it's a spectacle.
It's a glorious event. It's all what I don't know,
I said, I don't care. I did say that. What

(44:00):
I'm on the side of the NFL thinking this is
a bad look. Would you continue on?

Speaker 5 (44:04):
Yeah, And then that's kind of where I go to
my next point with it is, I mean, these guys
are making a crap ton of money, dude. Like it's
something where it's like you don't need the extra money,
like you're getting paid a big salary, so just either
go or like you don't give it to your family
for free. I think the NFL would much rather be, Oh,
I gave this to my cousin John for free and
you went and enjoyed the game.

Speaker 9 (44:23):
I think they much rather have that.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
So on the WNBA, now, obviously I understand where they're
coming from because they have the most attention they've had
on this league and thirty five plus years or whatever
it is. But you come down to the business side,
of it, Bernie, Obviously it's not going to work out.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
When you mentioned it, they.

Speaker 5 (44:41):
Haven't made a profit and they're basically existence. They owe
the NBA all this money and it's just not going
to happen. I mean, yeah, the media deals there, but
I think there's bigger things for the WIA to focus on.
I mean, Jim kind of said it perfectly in the
last call where it's like they had all these issues
with the rest. They don't know how to keep Caitlyn
Clark away from the publicity. Kind of like how the

(45:02):
NBA like they have all these superstars like s GA
and then get fouled and they protect the stars. Morzon,
I'm trying to say, and about whole.

Speaker 13 (45:10):
Cogan, I don't really have too much on him very young.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
I'm twenty one, so I didn't really grow up watching
him like a lot of the other people calling did.
But I think that he's an icon for the sport
of wrestling if he called a sport, and it sucks
that he had these things in his past, and obviously
the society where in now people are going to look
at it like okay, well we're going to look at
the bad things. So I think just focus on what

(45:33):
he did for wrestling because.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
He was an icon.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
Like the difference is like Kobe Bryant, like and I
love Kobe, but like there's allegations there no one brought
that up.

Speaker 10 (45:42):
Like it gives Holp the same energy a little.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
Bit like a couple a couple of weeks later if
you want to bring it up the.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
Boat, well, but you got to think about it from
his family and all that, like it probably sucks for them,
and then they go on social media and here all
of this, you know, whole cogana s that's my that's
your dad or that's your grandpa, whoever it may be.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Thank you, Bernie, Thanks Sammon, don't forget to teach your vitamins.
Scott in Manhattan Beach, Welcome in. Are you a first
timer to the Bernie Frattle Show?

Speaker 14 (46:07):
First time?

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Probably?

Speaker 14 (46:08):
Yeah, great show man, I must say a long.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Time glad to have, Glad to have you. Fire away
in regards to.

Speaker 14 (46:15):
The ticket, So Super Bowl twenty one at the Rose Bowl,
Denver versus the Giants. I'm a big time Redskins fan.
Out here, I'm walking around the Rose Bowl trying to
get a ticket to get into the game. The guy
comes up to me and says, hey, you're a Redskins fan.
I played for the Redskins. I played quarterback for the Redskins.
My name's Mark Rippin. I remember this really, Remember this

(46:37):
is nineteen eighty six. I hadn't no idea who Mark
Rippon was because the quarterback was Schrader and Williams. I'm
thinking this guy's a nut job. But he sow me
his ticket for face value seventy five dollars. So I'm
sitting in the Rose Bowl, unknowingly that I'm in the
Redskins section. Halftime comes. I think Denver was winning at
the halftime too, but remember correctly, and guy gets up.

(47:01):
It's Dexter Manley. He was walking up the aisle, you know,
like three rows ahead of me, and I'm morphin the
Yogi bearra and poor Dexter Manley unknowingly morph into Don
Laws and I'm jumping all over the poor guy because
Dexter Manley was my favorite player.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Memory hers Denver jumped out to me. Done nothing. Lead
in Washington want him. I think Timmy Smith scored like fast.

Speaker 14 (47:24):
Time was a giant. This a year before the Giants
at the Rose Bot.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Eighty seven, the Giants won thirty nine to twenty. I
thought you said Redskins. I thought you said Redskins. Okay,
go ahead, I'm Redskins, Redskins fan.

Speaker 14 (47:37):
The Redskins have lost the championship game the week before
the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Gotcha? Got you? Because the following year, You're right, don't
go ahead.

Speaker 14 (47:43):
Yeah, I'm jumping all over Dexter Manley. He's about to
cold cock me, right, get off me, man, and then
he realizes I'm a Redskins fan.

Speaker 6 (47:51):
So he's like, oh, man, dude, you're a Redskins fan.

Speaker 14 (47:53):
Well, let me tell you something. We're going to be
in this game next year and we're gonna win it.
And next year Williams David Sandy.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah. Hey, by the way, the operative takeaway here is
that you were giving the ticket at face value. I
think it, you know, So all right, moving on your
thoughts on the w n B A and and their
quest for more money.

Speaker 14 (48:14):
You can take Allen Iverson's rant on practice and insert
w n B A and where practice is so.

Speaker 9 (48:20):
Good, that is so good as well.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
But yeah, I'm sure you'd be glued to that double
header tomorrow that ESPN toalts every six minutes oh God
love him. Okay, thoughts on great great energy, Scott. Thoughts
on Hunk Hogan before we let you Go, Punk Hogan.

Speaker 14 (48:39):
I saw him and it was either late eighties early
nineties at the old LA Sports Arena by the Coliseum.
They had some wrestling. I wasn't really big into wrestling,
but I went to this big event and Gene Hackman
was like one of the.

Speaker 6 (48:51):
MC's during this amount.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 14 (48:53):
I forget who he fought, but but yeah, poor remember
him in the Rocky Dream movie.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
You know, Oh my god. Sylvester Stallone talked about that
the other day. Broke Stallone's collarbone.

Speaker 6 (49:05):
Yeah, right, so this is all right.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Hey, don't be a stranger, Scott, great energy, great stuff. Man,
Andre and Massachusetts, welcome back in. I know you'll have uh,
you'll be able to wax fort on these subjects.

Speaker 12 (49:18):
Bertie, how you doing, Thanks for taking the call.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Listen.

Speaker 12 (49:21):
In terms of NFL players and selling the tickets, I
don't have an issue with it, particularly for these headlining events.
Once you've been there once or twice, you kind of
get a feel for it. You know, it's one thing
if it's your first time, you know, going Bud if
if you've been there a few times, Okay, okay, you know,
let me, let me give these tickets to somebody else.
Obviously you can leverage what they're what they're worth in

(49:43):
the free market.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
All right. Maybe I'm just an old stiff on this.
I don't know, man, I just yeah, go fair enough,
fair enough. I'm an open minded guy.

Speaker 12 (49:51):
Hell, And I think that players, particularly, you know, we
look at them as these millionaires and they have all
this money and so on, and they are wealthy compared
to the averaging visual. But after you've been in the
league for a while, you know, you're trying to find
angles and make money just like everybody else. So they
see an opportunity, particularly if it's a game that you know,
it's a big game, you know, you know, ma homes
versus hurts or whatever the case may be, people are

(50:12):
willing to pay whatever you'll charge, go ahead and get
that money. Specific to the w NBA, this kind of
gets home for me because I'm a basketball person.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
You know.

Speaker 12 (50:22):
Again, I go back to ninety seven when a WNBA
came to fruition under the leadership of the late great
David Stern. You know, the first championship Cynthia Cooper. Tina
Thompson Houston comments, you know it, it's a big deal,
And frankly, I take it personally. I think a lot
of people in the basketball community feel this way. Me,
you know, just a guy out here in the Commonwealth.

(50:43):
But you go to the w NBA games, right, Kaitlyn
Clark was here in Boston, Jalen Brown was in attendance.
Right when when the Sparks playing Los Angeles, Lebron James
is in attendance. Right, Kevin Durant's at these teams?

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Can you can you you're a thoughtful guy. Can you
make any similance of a case to just find why
they deserve more money at this juncture?

Speaker 12 (51:05):
No, Bernie, I can't. And my issue is with this
drum beat and this constant, persistent messaging of the WNBA
and sticking with this that pay us what you owe
us and pay us our worth and so on and forth.
You know, this isn't the nineteen seventies. We are not
talking about Title nine. The year is twenty twenty five.

(51:26):
The league has been in effect for thirty years. Everybody
knows it hasn't made a profit. Everybody knows you're losing
ten twenty thirty million dollars annually, adding up to a
half a billion dollars. Now, listen, why I'm furious about
this is because I in the NBA believe in this
league and want to see the league do better. And
they have this opportunity right now with a transcendent player

(51:47):
in Caitlin Clark, to do better, and they are missing
this opportunity. There. It's all this squabbling and infighting and
bickering and jealousy and envy, and I'll just stop it
right there.

Speaker 9 (51:59):
What infuriates to me is.

Speaker 12 (52:00):
That the league itself can't get their ducks in a
row and get behind this you know, this title way,
this tsunami that starts with Caitlin Cluck. Listen, forget the
that it's not you. NBA players had an issue with
Michael Jordan's froze them out of the All Star Game.
Did David Stern allow that to be the narrative or
was it air Jordan?

Speaker 9 (52:19):
Was it the picture of him taking.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Off the Well, there's a definite leadership issue on both sides.
And Adam Silver all right, listen, I always love your calls.
I want to get to everybody real quickly. Anything on
Hulk Coogan.

Speaker 12 (52:30):
Listen, I'm an eighties baby, eighty two awesome eighties, So,
Hulk Cogan, you know it means a lot, you know
for the if you grew up in the n and so,
so I'm the deep down awesome eighties. The things that
he said relative to race, that's a part of his legacy.
And no, there's no two ways about it. So he is,
at the end of the day, a complicated man. That's
what I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get from the benefit
of doubt in terms of him being a complicated man.

(52:52):
He means so much for eighties folks. That's why it's
really hurtful.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
In terms of what he did.

Speaker 7 (52:58):
I'm not talking about policy.

Speaker 12 (53:00):
He has a right to vote for who he wants
to and advocate for who he wants to.

Speaker 9 (53:03):
That's his business.

Speaker 12 (53:04):
But the things that he said some things that you
can't get pass. And so it's part of the legacy.
I'm gonna say, he's the complicated man.

Speaker 13 (53:11):
See it forever, We love it.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Rating that's a part of bad Thanks a lot, Thanks
a lot. I appreciated the Midnight Hour once again, Off
and running Callers spectacular, Andrew and Bakersfield Ryan and Saint
Paul and Jerome back in Charleston. You are up next.
Everybody hang tight. Eight seven seven nine nine six six
three sixty nine. The Bernie Fraddle Show continues. Don't go anywhere,

(53:35):
or you are first in line for front of Lobotomy.
I'm Bernie Frattle. We're come to you live from the
Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked. We're
listening to the Bernie Frattles Show in the midnight hour
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
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Speaker 1 (53:57):
All right, back at the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Come to your line from the compound here in Las Vegas.
That's dive back in to the midnight hour. Eight seven
seven nine nine sixty six three sixty nine. Andrew, thanks
for hanging on, Buddy, Andrew and Bakersfield a regular. What
have you got for us tonight?

Speaker 15 (54:13):
What's up?

Speaker 16 (54:13):
Bretty?

Speaker 15 (54:14):
Can you quickly explain the first topic?

Speaker 1 (54:16):
I'm sorry, Well, the first topic has to do with
the NFL fining one hundred players and a couple dozen
club employees because they sold the Super Bowl fifty nine tickets.
They were a lot of above face values that they're
being called on the carpet.

Speaker 15 (54:30):
Okay, all right, I'm going to go to the next
the WNBA.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Okay, go ahead, Okay. Thoughts on their their their CDA battle, Well, I.

Speaker 15 (54:40):
Heard an interesting thing, and Andre in Massachusetts pretty much
said the same thing. But Kevin in Culver City during
Robin Kelvin's show said he thought the issue was that
they were in fighting and they were, you know, putting
Caitlin Clark down. And until they get that figured out, sorry,

(55:06):
I have some background. Nice after they get that figured out,
who do you whose.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Side are you on? Do you think these girls deserve
more money? And if so, based on what well I would.

Speaker 15 (55:18):
Say, if they figured it out with Caitlin Clark, they.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Would be probably that shit might have already sailed. Quite honestly.
I mean, you got people I think she's all a
famer of people say she's a bust. They really they're
you know, they're it's a situation. You you're a smart guy.
You see it's right there in front of you. Yeah,
you're the commissioner. You got to put your hat on
right now, who's Saiddy? Who's who you siding with? They've

(55:41):
lost a billion and a half and twenty nine years. Good.
You're telling me you're going to make more in the future. Well,
let's let's talk in three years when maybe you're making
a profit.

Speaker 9 (55:49):
Right.

Speaker 15 (55:49):
I was going to say they would get paid based
on the future. Now, if I was the commissioner, I
don't think i'd do that, but maybe in a year.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Okay, Any thoughts on HK Hogan Andrew.

Speaker 15 (56:00):
Yeah, So he was my favorite wrestler pretty much, but like,
once I found out it was fake or staged or whatever,
I didn't really listen or watch that much. And so
then I heard something about a documentary or something on Netflix,
and I just kind of put it to the side
and didn't know if all the details were correct, and

(56:22):
I kind of left it in that case. And so
when he died, heard more stuff about him. But that's
what I kind of did. I don't know, what do
you call it? Suspending judgment?

Speaker 1 (56:34):
That's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 15 (56:35):
Yeah, I'm still there.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
I guess all right, Andrew. I always appreciate you man
checking in all the time. Look, look, Hulk was an
American pop culture phenomenon, but he was also admitted racist
and a union buster. He did a lot of good things.
I believe that he became a Christian born again Christian,
and I think a lot of folks in life struggle

(56:57):
with the person they are versus the person they want
to be. He was probably one of those. At the
end of the day, Ryan and Saint Paul, Minnesota, welcome
into the Bernie Frouders Show. Is this your first time.

Speaker 6 (57:07):
Calling today, Bernie, it's my first time.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Welcome in.

Speaker 10 (57:10):
Good to have you, good to be with you.

Speaker 11 (57:13):
I'd like to.

Speaker 10 (57:13):
Start with hall covering, and I am a child of
the seventies and eighties, and I will tell you that
his passion for entertainment, whether you call wrestling a sport
or not a sport, his passion for his craft is
very rarely seen these days in you know, sports or athletics.

(57:37):
And there's just no denying the buzz that he created
by the passion that he had.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
I can't disagree with that. And he became a larger
than life figure. Any thought the other two subjects, go ahead,
go ahead, Yeah, you.

Speaker 10 (57:54):
Know, the WNBA numbers speak for themselves, and I just
don't think that the Caitlin Clark ticket is a free
ride for everyone in that league. And I just don't
think that it's a rational logical, you know, uh situation,

(58:15):
given the numbers to you know, create uh an issue
as they have done.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
And they're going about it the wrong way.

Speaker 16 (58:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Any thoughts on the NFL, I'll call it a ticket
scalping saga for lack of a better Definitely.

Speaker 10 (58:33):
Yes, you know, at the end of the day, capitalism. Hello,
you got to pay the bills.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (58:39):
They've didn't stealed the tickets, and you know, make your money,
pay your bills, all.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Right, buddy, don't be a stranger. Welcome in, Appreciate you
ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Wake the neighbors, Alert
the kids, Grandpa poot On Pats, We bring in the gentlemen.
The former lead singer of Harold Melvin and the Blue
the legendary Jerome from Charleston. Jerome, where have you been,
my friend?

Speaker 6 (59:06):
And put on your depands too, Nah, I know you.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Ain't talking to me. I don't even look at you. Okay, man,
It's good to have you back in the full Jerome.
I was. I was genuinely worried about you, so I
lit a candle in shirts and well, while you're back right,
I was.

Speaker 6 (59:27):
Worried about you because people were stumping to you for you,
and I was wondering, where the hell is we're having them?

Speaker 14 (59:33):
If you're all right?

Speaker 6 (59:34):
Okay, question's answered.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
I'm all right, man.

Speaker 6 (59:39):
When and you think about the w NB, you know,
the money and all that. I think about that old
saying that colattery will get you nowhere? Okay, you long
for a million dollars? I mean, coy, you want to
be making demand. Come on, man, you're getting money and
you're losing it and you want more money. What kind

(01:00:00):
of business cloud are they taking?

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Man?

Speaker 11 (01:00:03):
Come on?

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Yeah, I could have I could have said it better,
quite honestly, I could have sat.

Speaker 6 (01:00:07):
Up and as far as haug Holgan, you know, I
was watching down a Ross a couple of weeks ago
as I was I'm feeling too good thinking about my mom,
and uh my favorite down and Ross song was reach
out and touch. So brought his hand make this wir
a little better place? Right? You know what's disappointing is
that he got all the fame, all the story and

(01:00:28):
then like that old thing, goal was in the dark,
will come to the light. You know, just a shame
that he went out the way he did because I
would never wish anything bad or anyone because I'm a human.
I'm a human being too. But it's just said that,
you know, the things that came out about him and
how we found out there was a tide of him
that a lot of a lot of us never really knew. Right,

(01:00:51):
And as far as the NFL, hey, greed is good,
greed is right, green works. How much money do you need? Hey,
try to let the moto might draw gets you every month. Okay,
you got all this money, and what you want? You
want more money, and then you gotta do all this
underhand and stuff. You know, you didn't think this was

(01:01:11):
going to get out, and come on, you gotta you
gotta be smarter than there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Don't don't bite the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Hand and peg Jerome. I think we're three for three, man.
Hope to see you back next week. I'll be here,
hope you will be as well. Let's welcome in t
R in San Diego. And I believe tr this is
also your first time calling the Bernie Frattle Show.

Speaker 8 (01:01:32):
It's j R.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
J R. Okay, I apologize, Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:01:37):
Yeah, I mean I called you before.

Speaker 8 (01:01:38):
But about those tickets, it should be it shouldn't do
anything you want with tickets. Man, Once you get those tickets,
sweet takes, why not?

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Okay, I can't argue. I can't argue with that. I
get it. I'm I'm right down the bedl on this. However,
if I said, hey, Jr. Man, can you can you
hook me up? I want to go to the Potters
game next week? You give me two tickets behind the place.
You see. How was the game? Oh? Man? I sold them?
I made two hundred bucks. How are you going to
feel about that if you were the giver?

Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
So what?

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Who cares? Okay, it's all you know what? I respect
that the beauty, the beauty of the midnight hour is
the most boring conversations when everybody agrees. I don't agree.
I don't agree. If I get somebody something they want
to they want to have it. They may not ever
know that I'm pissed off. That would rub me the
wrong way. But I listen, this is why we do.

(01:02:31):
This is why we're bringing callers to get various opinions.
So you're right. I guess what you're essentially saying is
once the property is transferred from you to me or
whoever it's theirs not or do what they want with it, right,
that what you're business saying? All right, that's just move
on to the w n B.

Speaker 8 (01:02:47):
A and you know about the w NBA. Who wants
to watch those ladies do layups. I'd rather watch eighth
or ninth grade or doing three sixty dumps. It's better
than w NBA and the w NBA. It's about supplying demand.
That's why Lady Sucka.

Speaker 9 (01:03:06):
Doesn't you know work in the US.

Speaker 7 (01:03:08):
They like to lose some money.

Speaker 8 (01:03:10):
Is all about money supplying the man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Right, he just nailed it right now, with all due respect,
there isn't nearly the demand for the product. I'm not
saying there's a zero demand. But during one point five
billion in the hole in twenty five years, and I
know everything's different.

Speaker 8 (01:03:26):
Rather what the NBA Summer League in Las Vegas and
wants w NBA, I wish you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
To call my show a few weeks back because Klay
Travis was willing to put up a million dollars to
have a high school state champion team play the w NBA.

Speaker 8 (01:03:41):
Yeah, they'll be the little destroying period.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Yeah, I agree to. I agree to you finally, any thoughts,
good good stuff, Jared for any thoughts on Hulkoge.

Speaker 8 (01:03:53):
I think most people that really kind of back in
the I used to walk back in the eighties until
I turned twenty one. I thought every thing was all real,
and I like to say, called rest and peach and
God bless you. That's all I got to say.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
All right, Hey, don't be a stranger, Jared. I appreciate
hearing from you. Man. Okay, another Bronco fan and Colorado
is up next, and we'll call you by your name.
Another Bronco fan. Welcome in, Hi. How's it going good?
How are you good?

Speaker 9 (01:04:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:04:22):
I want to chime in on all three. As far
as the w NBA, I'm kind of porn on that
and I'm not sure exactly, you know, how they're subsidized
or whatnot?

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
You know WNBA, how they check that the NBA, my friend,
the REA that's get you out. But just do they
are they.

Speaker 16 (01:04:40):
Kind of like a tax ride off or something for
the NBA, I know that, you know, do they get
some kind of kickback or something or I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
No, the NBA owns sixty percent of the w NBA,
and they've been subsidized every penny of these losses since
nineteen ninety seven. It's very saable. The WNBA's operational exis
since completely depends on the large art of the NBA.

Speaker 16 (01:05:04):
Well, here's the thing that, Okay, it's great that they're
you know, subsidizing in the whole shot. As far as
the ladies wanted more money, I'm torn on that because
I'm you know, I'm on the side on one side.
As far as don't like to hand to feed you
kind of thing, yeah, I agree with that right at
the same time and going, well, they do need to
make a living, but don't get too over.

Speaker 9 (01:05:25):
Greedy.

Speaker 16 (01:05:26):
We'll say, Okay, they're making good money, and I mean,
you know, in the off season they can do other
things and say, Caitlin Clark is endorsement, so she's set
for life.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Anyway, torn on that.

Speaker 16 (01:05:39):
The thing with Hulk Hogan. I myself, if I'm going
to watch wrestling, I'd rather wait for the Olympics and
watch it every four years. But check this out that
my grandmother was a huge fan, and especially you know, sixties, seventies, eighties.
Bless her heart rest in peace. She thought it was,
you know, just the best thing go to visit. No,

(01:05:59):
no know until this is over. You know, her attention
span was on that old Cogan as the person I
know a little bit about him, pros and cons. But
I will say this rest in peace, pros cons whatever.
As far as the tickets, you know, the way I
look at it, you know, it's a gift from the NFL.

(01:06:21):
I'm thinking if the people that receive it don't want
to attend, give it to somebody, friends, family, whatever, on
the condition you will go and attend this event. You
will not sell that for profit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
That's the That's the way I would view it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
You know, if you do not care to attend.

Speaker 16 (01:06:40):
If you do not care to attend, let me know.
I'll find somebody else that will attend and enjoy it
and appreciate it. I do think they should sell it
for profit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Okay, that's fair. That that's a salient point. Another Bronco fame.
Don't be a stranger, all right, the Midnight Hour rules
on up. Next we'll have Beast of the East, and
then we'll have Big Mic in Las Vegas and Lighton
in Kentucky. And just please hang tight, because I definitely
do want to hear from all of you. By the way,

(01:07:14):
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There's a ton of great videos from many of our
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on YouTube. I'm Bernie Fraddle. Come to your line from
the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. It is midnight hour.

(01:07:36):
Keep it locked. Listen to the Bernie Fraddle Show on
Fox Sports Radio. All right, back on the Bernie Frattle Show,
the Midnight Hour continues. Let's go back out to the phones.
We are joined by the Beast of the East in
New York. Welcome in, my man, Hey, my friend.

Speaker 11 (01:07:52):
I'm not usually want to wait thirty minutes, but you're
so popular. But that was good tonight. I just want
to talk about how I appreciate Thank you. One four
I listened to out of the whole lineup on Fox,
so I'm congrants you got a great show.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Thanks for being a patient, my friend. Uh, the I
try to get to the folks as quickly as possible.
I'm going to give you plenty of air time here
and you'll hear me more on the air of the
year goes on, I'll be doing feelings and stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:08:20):
So I got a great subject for another time, but
that would take more time. I've done some sports radio,
so I know what it takes to be a good show,
and you got it. Anyways, halt sir, This an interesting story.
You know what, I don't care about all anything that
was said about him. I just look at him. You know,
the entertainment whatever wrestling was fixed or whatever, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
He did.

Speaker 11 (01:08:43):
He brought that sport, whatever it is, up to the
levels you know that we've never heard of before. And
one time I happened to be on a business conference
with my family at the Atlantis and the Bahamas.

Speaker 9 (01:08:59):
So I'm on the slide.

Speaker 11 (01:09:00):
The big guy was on the water slide, big water slide,
and then having to run into him in the restaurant.
I had a pretty good sports cutch, and so I
know what it means for the autographs, you know, to
be the cal ripped in to sit and sign everyone
or whatever, had a bodyguard tarage with him, and they
were eating at the same restaurant we ate at. I

(01:09:21):
didn't bother the people were trying to get to him
while they're eating, and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
They got shoot away.

Speaker 11 (01:09:25):
We happen to go in the Teshire line at the
same time, and you know, I looked over to him.
He was paying, I was paying, and I had my
eight year old fun there and I said, real loud,
kind of loud. I said, well, miss, maybe now that
mister Hogan is done eating, he might take a picture
with you. And sure enough, he looked at me smugly,

(01:09:48):
and he pointed at my son and he called him over, dude.
He lifted them up as tall as he could. I
got a great picture. I always had that picture, but
you know that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Anyways, Absolutely night. Hey, I appreciate you checking in BCDs.
Don't be a stranger man. Try to get in earlier
in the night and we'll keep those weights down. Hey,
Big Mike in Las Vegas is back. Welcome and Mike
Bernie Bernie.

Speaker 7 (01:10:15):
There's only a few people that I'd wait in the
queue for, and yeah, you're one of them. Really, so
I really enjoyed listening to your show.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:10:26):
Yeah, and that's after being on the air for thirty
years myself and the Los Angeles so great. Great hearing
you and there's a wealth of information, calm and preparedness,
and it's a that's apparent.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Every time you take the airway.

Speaker 7 (01:10:43):
So thank you for all of that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:10:48):
Yeah, well it's there, So it's a it's not a
false suck up there, that's for real. So it's a
real suck up. So beautiful night in Vegas tonight. Just
came back from taking my puppy out for a walk.
So come on out to Las Vegas, spend some money,

(01:11:10):
enjoy it, and enjoy it. Everybody, come on out, even
in summertime. It's beautiful. But let's go to the topics.
I'm gonna I've been so after living in La for
fifty years, right down the street from the RAMS office
during these seventies and eighties on Pico Boulevard near Fox Studios,

(01:11:33):
I know what happens to those Super Bowl tickets. Even
from the highest levels, they get.

Speaker 9 (01:11:39):
Filtered, sold, And.

Speaker 7 (01:11:43):
You know this is just a reality. It goes down
players general managers. Yes, that's where general managers will trade
them and set and have them sold on their behalf.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
So it's done.

Speaker 7 (01:11:58):
You know, there's a lot worse things to go on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
In the boy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
So basically Mike, You're you're okay with it, and you're
it's kind of a pragmatic thing. It's just it's going
to happen. You're okay with it.

Speaker 7 (01:12:10):
Especially well it has nothing super Bowl that the only
thing the fans have in the involvement are watching it
and having Super Bowl parties. Attendance is not a fan thing.
It's fans are press out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Absolutely no, No, it's it's It's a good point because
I've been to three Super Bowls, only covered one in
a phishing capacity. Any thoughts on the w n b
A and their CBA fight which is coming up.

Speaker 7 (01:12:34):
Oh I should I've been following the uh the w
n b A and going to their games being in
Los Angeles and enjoying them back then at least with
the sparksy ce Leslie and when the Bus family owned
the team. But why so many where there's so many

(01:12:58):
different owners all over for the years. Well, they didn't
make money, and that's the thing, not at all. They
did have some good stars along the way, Olympians playing
on the team. But these girls are women are completely nuts.
They're radical, they're not that entertaining for the most part,

(01:13:20):
and they're being subsidized by the NBA. And if they
were anything more than than twelve players traveling around for
team or fourteen, they wouldn't get subsidized. And a lot
has to do just with a social political part of them.
And like your previous callers said, you know, they've been

(01:13:44):
losing money for over a quarter of a century. Wesments
at the WNBA All Star Game and they're trying to
kill their cold golden goose there with Caitlin Clark and
ridiculous there, Bernie, completely ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Any final thoughts Mike on on hul Cogan, All I.

Speaker 7 (01:14:10):
Can say that the people that are on the air
that turn that turn go from pundit uh to half
assed journalists are an embarrassment to being on the air
when they talked about haul Hogan when I went on
the air and I and I sourced things out by

(01:14:33):
two or three different sources. And uh, you're only getting
part of the story for people that want to character
assassinate hal Cogan without giving you, as Paul Harvey would say, the.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Rest of the story. Way to finish my strong stuff.
Don't be a stranger, love your calls, appreciate it. Leighton
in Kentucky. You're up next, Hey, Bernie. Uh.

Speaker 17 (01:14:58):
This discovered you about in a year and a half ago.
That was a regular list of the Ben Maller Show.
I really liked you, man, I'm kind of your age
and really enjoy your wealth of experience. I just want
to touch quickly on the NBA and Hulk Hogan because
they want to finish with the w NBA the NFL.
I see that as an amenity. They don't want him
to sell it, don't give it to him. Hulk Hogan

(01:15:20):
wasn't into that sport much, but I think everybody that
was in that industry owes him a lot. Or the
way he was able to raise it up and make
it a sellable product. Remember when they splitted it for
him to beat Android to John Andre the Giant. Of course,
if Andre didn't want him to win, nobody could get
him down.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
I give Hoult credit.

Speaker 17 (01:15:38):
He picked him up all the way up or Head
and Landy h and last great memory.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Believe it or not, thirty three million people watch that broadcast.

Speaker 17 (01:15:47):
You know how big Andre the Giant was. I used
to Oh my god, God, the train something with him.

Speaker 14 (01:15:53):
He was a lesser as even something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Yeah, he took.

Speaker 8 (01:15:57):
He took the front seat out of his car so
he could drive it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
Okay, anything on the WNBA.

Speaker 17 (01:16:04):
Absolutely before Caitlyn Clark, I checked it out. It's such
an inferior product product. They're slow, they just layups. Terrible product.
Then when Caitlin Clark came along outside, I wanted to
check it out. And you're playing college. I mean she
was a great outside shooter.

Speaker 14 (01:16:20):
I watched her.

Speaker 17 (01:16:21):
She could drive the ball, handle the pressure, really like it.
And then here came the thuggery. Years ago, Warren Samp
was trailing a play against Green Bay and he came
up from the blind side and just absolutely clocked an
offensive linement, and I thought, I never forgot.

Speaker 9 (01:16:37):
That chief shot. So here's what they need to do.

Speaker 17 (01:16:41):
As soon as when one of them girls came from
back and after the whistle had wanted to come up
and just slammed her to the ground. I tell you
to stop that three game suspension, maybe fine, half dollars fine,
And then if you come if it happens again, more serious,
that'll stop all that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Hey, I appreciate your calling your thoughts and uh and
on these street topics tonight, don't be a stranger. Late. Look,
I think you were referring to the file Kennedy Carter
on a dead ball slammed her from behind to the ground.
Had nothing to do with the basketball play, just pure anger.
The camera to Tama tells the story. I mean, your trust,
your eyes will tell you a lot. And who's over

(01:17:19):
in the corner jumping up and down like you just
won the lottery? The angel Reese. Is that a good look?
Just tell me? Does that really help you sell your product?
That's all I want to know. So we've got a situation.
We've got two more callers in the queue, and you're
gonna get on. Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:17:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
What what I'm gonna ask you to do is you
can wait a few minutes. We'll get you back on.
Otherwise you won't. It's not fair to give you ten
cents of air time. We've got Bryce in Texas and
Mike and Washington. You'll be our final two callers. Uh,
but you waited, you dialed in and you get you
get your shot tonight, which we look forward to hearing from.

(01:17:54):
But we've got to, uh, you know, the proverbial, pay
some bills and things like that. So we'll pick this
up at the top of the hour, and if you
had missed earlier in the hour, we're talking about the
WNBA and their quests for more money even though the
parential will lose money. The NFL players, one hundred players
and a few organizational employees sold Super Bowl tickets at

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a profit and they got their hands slapped. And then
finally remembering hul Cogan, which I think a lot of
people have done a great job tonight, So keep it locked.
They're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show in the midnight
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(01:18:38):
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Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Well, this
is the case every now and then we go overtime
on the midnight hour because if you took the time
to dial in, I't want you to get shut out.
Bryce in Texas joined just next. Bryce. You've called many times.
What have you got for us tonight?

Speaker 13 (01:19:17):
Bernan, thank you for being back time this hit last week.
But real quick with starting in the NFL. There is
an old thing that I remember growing up. I don't
hear it as much anymore, but it was something like
opportunity makes a thief as far as I'm concerned, and
the twenty seconds of studying this, I guess I think
it's against their CBA for them to do this, So

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they're basically making money on I guess it's not stolen product,
but it's not product that's free for them to sell
for profit either.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
It's a complicated situation to me. All I can say
is the way the Bryce, the way the NFL has
reacted and they've brought the hammer down a little bit
and it's a little long comemfortable, leads me to believe
this is not kosher from the people who are giving
the tickets.

Speaker 13 (01:20:05):
So what kind of right, and like I heard your
analogy earlier about like giving tickets to a Padre's game
and the friends selling them. I think this goes beyond that.
This is like company property. It sounds like getting sold
out from underneath the company, which is like stealing money
from the company that way. So I kind of understand
why the hammer's coming.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Down on them, fair enough, but it's good fun. Go ahead. Sorry.

Speaker 13 (01:20:29):
The second one was the w NBA CVA yep, and
I think it's funny that Angel rees in them or
even like joking about sitting out like they have no
leverage in any of this. The WNBA is going to
be subsidized by the NBA forever. WNBA dos have to
do anything. And I own a small business e commerce business,

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and one of the biggest turn offs for like employees
that come to me is like, oh, okay, I'm getting
paid this much like when well, like how much more
tann get paid this?

Speaker 7 (01:21:00):
Click?

Speaker 13 (01:21:01):
Show me what you're doing first, like show me what
you can build me first, before I even begin to
talk about future income.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
Well, what cracks me up. And I hear what you're saying.
What cracks me up is they want revenue sharing. That's
going to be the Well, sure, when there's revenue, maybe
they can share it. Right now, they're a billion and
a half in the hole over the last twenty nine years.
I know this is not the current player's fault, but
they're doing nothing to change that pattern in my opinion,
Go ahead, Bryce, right.

Speaker 6 (01:21:30):
I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
I could not agree with you more.

Speaker 9 (01:21:33):
The last.

Speaker 13 (01:21:36):
Yeah, for hault Cogan, there's an old Shakespeare's quote said
something along the lines of your mistakes will live longer
than your legacy. And I hope that that's about the
case for him.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
I hope that.

Speaker 13 (01:21:48):
Yes, he had some scandals and there are some fact
old politics, but he really did inspire generations starting from
probably like the seventies and eighties onwards, to get into
the wrestling business, to get into the entertainment business, especially
through the time where everybody wanted to crap on wrestling
and be like, oh, it's fake, and you know, only

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luthers liked that. Like he was part of making it
larger than life. And now WWE is selling out arenas everywhere.
Heyw is selling out arenas everywhere, and these guys are getting.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
Remember remember when they sold out to Pontiac Silverdome ninety
three thousand people.

Speaker 13 (01:22:23):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
And an earlier caller talked about Deander the Giant Match,
thirty three million people watch it on TV. You bring
up a really good point. I have one sentence. Hul
Cogan make pro wrestling popular to the masses because he
was a pop culture icon. That's the way I see it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
I could not agree more.

Speaker 13 (01:22:42):
I think he's done more for that than Vince mcmangit.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Oh oh, there's no question. There's no question. And Hogan
was actually likable. He's human and I know that warts
have come out. That's the ward on Lincoln's knows it happens.
That's what we do in our society. Thanks a lot,
Bryce for hanging on. I appreciate your calls always. We
just do that in our society. We elevate people to
their highest plan. So whether it's sports, entertainment, politics, you

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name it, only to tear them down. Mike and Washington,
bring us over. Are you a first time caller at
the Bernie Frottle Show.

Speaker 9 (01:23:14):
I'm kind of a long time listener at the first
time caller Bernie, and I'm living over. I'm living in Wanatchi, Washington,
away from Seattle.

Speaker 14 (01:23:22):
Now Okay, I.

Speaker 9 (01:23:27):
Think this ticket thing is a little bit of a
tempest in a teapot, but I think it's shortsighted on
these players. I think they get a lot more, you know,
a lot more tread on the tires if they donate
these tickets to charities and auctions and stuff. They don't
really need the money. I have been to two FA

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Cup finals in England and the way they solve that
problem is those tickets get distributed to groups of people,
but with the caveat that with it for a year.
The FA can recall the ticket stub at any time
and if you can't produce the ticket stub, you never

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ever get another ticket.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Interesting happy about this. We've got some really interesting We've
got some really thoughtful callers tonight from all different sides
of the coin. I just know the NFL's pissed off
about this, and they're.

Speaker 9 (01:24:26):
Acting a cour well, they just kind of turned a
blind eye to it for so long and then it
got bad pub and so they have to be mad
about it because they got bad pub. As far as
the WNBA, I think you know, I'm I think I'm
about eight or ten years older than you, but I

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grew up in Seattle when the SuperSonics first came, NBA
was just kind of getting popular players that weren't the best.
Players had to do other things to earn a living.
I remember guys who were account executives for the phone
company and for coffee companies it's sold to, like my

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dad's company. They would give they'd give tickets to their
accounts and we'd go to games. And that's how they
built up the popularity of their sport. And that's how
the league paid its dues. And after years and years
and years, the NBA got popular. W NBA hasn't done
any of that. And I think this is all coming

(01:25:27):
from a bunch of players who are ignorant and miseducated
about what they're do and why they're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
And Mike, we had an earlier caller not to cut
you off, which I just did, But we had an
earlier caller reference topply and demand. There is not a
hell of a lot of demand for this product. I'm sorry,
continue on.

Speaker 9 (01:25:50):
This is all this is all coming from the d
DEI misinformation. This is all coming from I call it
the emmergen Carenocracy of the United States, where you know,
people whine and complain about miserable, little nothing things to
bring attention to themselves that have no merit, And that's

(01:26:14):
where this is coming from. I have no sympathy for
them at all. And if it keeps on, I hope
Caitlin Clark goes to Europe and leaves the whole league dangling.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
I'm curious where this sums up. I might yeah, real quickly,
Mike any finals, any thoughts on hul Cogan and his legacy.

Speaker 9 (01:26:35):
Well, I remember when hul Cogan was on the Ted
Turner channel, when it first when pro wrestling first became
a national thing, and it was a Saturday afternoon thing
on Ted Turner's network, And you know then I don't
even think he was calling himself hull Cogan. He might
have still been calling himself Carrie. It was him and

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the fabulous Free Birds. And then he was just a
submerging character. And he was sometimes a bad guy and
sometimes a good guy, but he was way more interesting
and way more exciting, and he did a pretty damn
good job of marketing self himself. And yeah, he made

(01:27:19):
some mistakes, but I think overall he's a pretty good guy.
I think overall he left a good legacy for himself.
And I saw some people talking about him this week,
talking heads on TV who you know discussing him was

(01:27:41):
bringing a tear to their eye. Well, you know, somebody,
when I die, if people are talking aboubby with tears
in their eyes, I think I'd be feel pretty good
about myself.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
Excellent call way to wrap things up to. I might
appreciate your thoughts and candor. Look, Hulk was a larger
than life hero to a lot of people. He was
a pop culture icon and as I said, he made
wrestling popular to the masses because of his personality and
his creativity in his athleticism. And I know there are

(01:28:15):
still a blockheads, Oh it's fake. Listen, it's entertainment. If
you don't watch it, you don't want to watch it,
turn it off, you'll I get fine. And you know,
the market will always decide. And the market decided they
liked Kulkogan over the years. Uh, And the numbers bear
it out. I won't give you a bunch of numbers
on the radio like I just did about the w NBA. Look,

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I don't care if you're if you're Tiger Woods or
Mark the Bird Fiedrich. Uh, right on through the years, uh,
Serena and Venus Williams. If you put butts in seats
because you're bringing something uh that the American masses can
avail themselves. We do like our bread and circuses. Then
the market will always decide. And that's as simple as that.

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And it's an interesting juxtaposition because like him or hate him,
and we know what his warts were Hull Cogan, if
they're well publicized, but by and large, on balance, he
won over the American people. The American people like their heroes.
We do not have royalty in this country. Our athletes
and our entertainers are in fact our royalty. Our athletes

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are amertainers, and wrestlers were entertainers. And you can make
fun of the people who go, but when you see
ninety three thousand people at a silver dome, man, that
doesn't happen automatically. By the way, Hugh on the Five,
who used to call in, he's a good caller. He said, Hey, Bernie,
nice listening in. Remember lost Leader. As far as the
w NBA Barfest, Hughes not one to mince words, and

(01:29:43):
he said, Hulk Cogan and Mike Tyson are equals in
their sports. I think it's fair they're iconic, they're headliners.
They're the type of people that you're talking about afterward.
I've never met Terry Bully a Hulk Cogan, but I
might test him many times. He's a great guy man.
He's a very he's actually a very bright man. He
had a very difficult upbringing. Anything that he ever loved

(01:30:06):
was taken away from him and it got to him.
But his legacy, I think is secure. That's the way
I see it. Thanks so much to all the callers,
exceptional calls tonight. People are candid, they speak their mind,
they're not afraid to share alternative thoughts and viewpoints. As
I've always said, the most boring calls or when everybody

(01:30:30):
agrees and we didn't agree, we didn't agree. Although I
will say this, I didn't hear one person make a
salient point or a valid case for the WNBA. And look,
we're not bashing in the WNBA. Just call him as
we see him. How the hell do you lose a
billion and a half over twenty nine years and say
give me more money? Well, I get it that a

(01:30:52):
TV deals coming in, but there are still issues and
questions about how Well, all right, let's just see what happens, okay,
And if he's I will tell you that. Two thousand
and one, I think it was two thousand and one,
the WNBA had a similar situation and they threaten to
walk out, and David Stearn says, you know, you know,

(01:31:12):
get your fares in order, say you goodbyes, you leave,
We're done. We'll shut this thing down faster. And you
know the problem is when you have an All Star
game and I believe the All Star Game was sold
out sixteen thousand people, and you turn it into a
piss fest, and all of a sudden, you're wearing these
goofy T shirts. And then you've got Kelsey Plump saying

(01:31:34):
we'll have to be a tattletale. But I'm going to
be a tattletale because I probably don't like Katelin Cark either.
I don't know if that's true. I don't know if
you just liked Katelin Clark at all. But that was stupid.
Every turn, it seems like they do the wrong thing,
all right, And as these events continue on and off
the court, I mean, the popularity of this league, at

(01:31:55):
least among the masses, and you really backfired what they did.
The WNVA did. They did not get They did not
rally a lot of supporter sympathy or empathy from innos bystanders. Frankly,
I think their popularity right now in the last week
is thinking. I think it's deflating faster than a tea
wanna breast implant. So let's see where they go from here.
They always got a chance to turn it around. What

(01:32:16):
the hell anybody can have three off decades? Right by
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right here on Fox Sports Radio and the i Art
Radio app. Well, guess what we're about twenty two, twenty
three days away from college football. Let me tell you now,
it's gonna be a whole lot of head cracking going
on on are Yep, we're twenty three days away from that.
What are the five biggest storylines? I'll tell yeah, coming

(01:33:00):
up on Bernie Fraddle. We're coming to live from the
Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio studios. Don't go away. You're
listening to the Bernie Frattles Show on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
listen live.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
All right back in the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Come to live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio compound.
Here in Las Vegas. That's the Department of Redundancy Department,
thirty seven minutes away from the dance sensation sweep in
the nation. What kind of brand new fool you followed
by what my name? But we are five days a

(01:33:45):
week away from NFL football Thursday night at the Hall
of Fame game. This is the last weekend without football
till mid February. Now I realized Thursday is not a
weekend day, but it's first Friday for some folks. You
get my drift. And next weekend is the NFL Hall
of Fame Induction ceremonies, which are always a treat. But Saturday,

(01:34:06):
August twenty third, there are four college football games and
that will begin to paint the picture of the storylines
for this upcoming season. I mentored under Dick Shapp and
I once asked him when I first got to know him,
what's your favorite sport? He goes, my favorite sport is people,
and I said, well, who do you root for? He goes,

(01:34:27):
I root for the story. I went for a team
or root for the story, and that's ultimately what drives
sports conversations. The first storyline to me that I think
people will climb onto quickly is that the Arch Manning
era is now beginning for Texas, who many think they
may have their best team in years. And that's saying

(01:34:50):
a lot, because they've been pretty good recently and it's
hard to believe. But Manning, it's his third year on
the roster, and you got a perfect one hundred rating
Arch Manning as a prospect coming out of New Orleans
in the class of twenty twenty three. And the people
who've scotted him and evaluated him that know what they're doing.
They rave about him, his size, his mechanics, his tools,

(01:35:13):
his intuition, his playmaking. Whether he's in drills or in
camp or practice or live game settings, every move Arch
Manning makes since he's gotten to Texas and he you know,
was a second he was a second year backup last
year has created some sort of headline including he lost
his student id the first semester. He's arch Manning, the

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son of Cooper Manning, the son of Archie Manning, and
you know who Archie Manning was. Now the time is here.
This is one of the most promising prospects, one of
the most hype prospects of the last twenty years. In
my opinion, it's his turn to take over. You're handing
arch Manning the keys of the car, and Lord behold.
They visit Ohio State week one with arch Manning as

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their starting quarterback. Okay, Quinn, yours is no longer there.
This is the spotlight for the team that may be
number one in some season polls, should make the playoffs,
has a very daunting schedule, and they open up at
the defending national champ Ohio State. Yeah, you know, I've
always said that sports are the greatest reality show because

(01:36:16):
you can script everything. But the ending Ohio State's a
two and a half point favorite. I don't know who
wins that game. It's easy to pick Ohio State, but
they're breaking in a new quarterback, and they have some
but they're still loaded. But arch Manning will be the
You'll hear more about arch Manning in that game, probably
than we've been hearing about Shudeorge Sanders, and that's a lot.

(01:36:36):
Texas opens again at Ohio State on the road, the
remaining national the reigning national champion, and uh look, arch Manning.
It must the same way Peyton Manning had a lot
of accolades at at at at Tennessee. Arch Manning has
a good fortune of being at Texas during a time

(01:36:58):
when the Longhords and they have a very pro tradition
and if they're a very historic program, they're running at
a level you really haven't seen in sixteen years when
they got to the championship game in Pasadena and the
BILDBCS and Colt McCoy got hurt the first or second
play of the game or whatever in Bama. Bama hammered
them right. Texas has not really been on that level

(01:37:18):
in over a decade and a half. But Steve Sarkisian
he's now having playing in the conference championship games in
the national semifinals the last two years, why he recruits well.
Texas has resources, he's got one of the best rosters
in the country. And now and look what they've put
in the NFL and Texas is already one of the
biggest stories in the season. But you add arch Manning

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and now all of a sudden, you've got the Hollywood
story that people are looking. That game will get as
much attention as any college football game will get this year.
Texas at Ohio State, arch Manning, follow the arch Banning story,
Let's see where it goes. Butod, hey, who's on the
other side of the field that day? What does Ohio
State do for na Encore this year? That to me

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is another major storyline. Now, the Buckeye started last season
is one of the biggest stories in the sport because
they spent twenty million dollars and they had this robster
full of rock stars, with a bunch of high profile
portal additions, a bunch of NFL draft choices, and they
had guys that could have went to the NFL they kept.

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So look, they started out doing what they should have done.
They blew out Akron. We blew out Akron, but then
they lost to Oregon. But then they beat Oregon and oh,
by the way, they ate it up and they loust
to Michigan, but then they ended up winning it all. Okay,
the reality created as much a drama as an excitement

(01:38:46):
for some as the height if you look at if
you if you remember that late game drama in the
early season lost at Oregon and the defensive stands that
they had to survive their extremely competitive contest against Penn State,
and ultimately the Michigan lost and the flag planed fiasco.
And I know there were thoughts that Irvin or that

(01:39:08):
checked that that Ryan Day might be let go. No
chance that was never gonna happen. I know things got
hot for him very but they would have completely pissed
away at a tremendous recruiting class coming in for the
twenty five season, So that was never gonna happen. But boy,
they finished the way they needed to credit to Ryan

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Day their team's leadership because Ohio State, after those losses
to Oregon and Michigan rallied and they played their best playoff.
They played their best football when they needed to, winning
four consecutive games against teams that were finished ninth, third, fourth,
and second in the AP Top twenty five pole and
got their national Championship. However, it was an America. It

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was a very emotionally draining year, and at most programs,
the vats would there would be some buffer when it
comes to expectations the following season. There certainly was a Michigan.
Michigan fans, they have to admit it. They gave last
season the mulligan. I don't know how much better Michigan's
going to be this year. It's a conversation for a

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different day. But Ohio State is not most programs because
highly subjective fan expectations are that the Buckeye should be
in the National Championship game every year. So as you
prepare for this upcoming season, Ohio State currently the co favorite. Coincidentally,
with Texas their first opponent to win the National Championship,

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they're both six to one. Despite the Buckeyes having lost
their offensive coordinator, their defensive coordinator, and they sent fourteen
guys in the NFL. So what we want you to
do it again?

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
Ohio State still arguably does have the best offensive skill player.
Their wide receiver Jeremiah Smith and their defensive back Caleb
Downs probably two of the best players in the country.
But now they're going to deal with the next man
up mentality. They've got a lot of highly they recruited,
highly touted players who have that potential word, and now

(01:41:06):
they're going to be thrown into the fire in a
bigger role with one thing in mind, compete for a
title that will be the huge storyline for the defending champs.
Can they answer the call again with a decidedly different roster? Yeah?
Oh bye. By the way, if I could only see

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one Ohio State game this year, I'm sorry because I
covered ten of them, it would be November twenty ninth
in ann Arbor. Because winning a national championship certainly took
a lot of the bad taste in their mouth out
of their mouth, but not all of it. It just
can't if you understand that rivalry which started as a
land war over one hundred years ago. Look Michigan fans,

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and they have their right to do.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
This.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
Will remind Ohio State fans every day twice in three
times on Sunday that Michigan is riding a four game
winning streak and clearly college football's biggest rivalry, which means
Johiose State as a four game losing streak in that rivalry.
So the storylines abound. How will the national champs do
for an encore? Now, Georgia and Alabama, you may find

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it interesting to know that you already I'm sure know
this that every single season since twenty fourteen, either Bama
or Georgia has played for the SEC championship. Matter of fact,
they've played each other three times, and only once in
that stretch was the SEC title not won by either
Alabama or Georgia. Now, Georgia continued that streak last year

(01:42:43):
by beating Texas in overtime, but it went off a
cliff after that point. Georgia may have won the SEC
under Kirby Smart for the third time, but then they
were one and done in the College Football Playoff and
that left a very bad taste. There was an injury
to Carson Beck in the NCC title game and that
changed everything. And he's not even there anymore. Beck transferred

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to Miami. First he declared for the NFL draft, Then
he transferred to Miami, and there were lots of portal exits, editions,
draft exits, and look, it's hard. It's good to be
the King, but it's hard to stay there. Okay. Georgia
is a program that actually went forty two to zero
against everybody not named Alabama for three straight seasons. But

(01:43:30):
even though they won the SEC title last year, there
were more losses. They had three losses, that's the most
the Georgia team has had in seven years, and again
the bad loss in the playoff, at least for Georgia fans.
So will Georgia be able to bounce back to a
foreman twenty twenty five and they've got a roster change
Alabama situation. I think Alabama's going to be really good

(01:43:51):
this year, but their situation's different, and they had to
really adjust to life without Nick Saban and I think
a lot of Kaitlyn de Boor, but he showed moments.
Alabama still showed moments last year where they could flex
their muscles and beat the top programs, but they also
had a nine to four record, and that's direct to

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Alabama fans. The problem Alabama had last year was inconsistency.
They just couldn't put one success on top of another
like they used to. And you know, listen, they didn't
play for the SEC title, they didn't get a chance
to go to the College Football Playoff. And yes they
did beat Georgia early in the year, but that followed

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up the following week by losing to Vanderbilt. Then they
blew out LSU, and then they lost twenty four to
three at Oklahoma. So look, it's just one of those
situations where SMU, who was eleven and two and VAMA
probably would have beaten LSU, but SMU deserved to be
there in the playoff. The committee chose them over nine

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to three Alabama for the final large spot, and then Alabama,
as you can say, is over used cliche, they added
insult to injury with a nineteen to thirteen loss to
Michigan as a sixteen and a half point favorite. So Bama,
like Georgia, clearly they're gonna hate the way that season ended.
They're gonna be itching to get back on the field.

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They got a really good roster, they got a clean slate,
and I think Kalen de Bor having a year under
his belt, I do think they'll get better quarterback play
than they got out of Jalen Milroll last year. Sorry
Jalen Milroe fans, but when he gets hot and it's
hard to breathe, I did not see clutch performances on
a consistent basis. He might have been a guy he
won with but not because of this battle will be

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a big story. And the thing is it's every week
is live and die with him, Live and die, Live
and die. Now. Two years ago, at this point, we
were looking ahead to Colorado in their first year with
Dion Sanders, Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter as a twenty
point underdog against TCU, and on that Labor Day weekend
at a hot stadium down there, they shocked the world.

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Colorado did. If they'd have just hung in there, they
would have won the day they went out, right. Problem
is that created expectations. Colorado was thirteen and twelve over
the last two years, but they did have their share
of highlights and had their share of what Hollywood you know,
actors hanging out on the sidelines. It's the place to be, right.
Dean's done a hell of a job with that program. Okay,

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speaking of when you consider the fact they were one
and eleven as recently as twenty twenty two. So we're
gonna follow Colorado your year a week to week. This year,
you can bet on it. I don't know how many
more years. Deanna just got a nice big deal. I
think it's five years fifty four. I don't know, whatever
it is, I don't know how many more years will
be there. Maybe he's here the rest of his life.

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I don't know, but I will tell you this year,
no Travis Hunter, no shoot or Sanders. That aras over Colorado.
That is another storyline. We'll be watching closely. We'll check
in week by week, just like we have the last
few years. Travis Hunter randu a Heisman Trophy. Last year,
Colorado finished in a four way attack for first place
in the Big Twelve standings, and they had a lot

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of breakthroughs and they started to normalize what Colorado fans
had not had since the early nineties when they had
guys on my buddy Mike Pritchard. They have big stars
or in the headset on the sideline, and they play
in a power conference. But the individual's successes of Travis
Hunter and Shadeur drew the attention away from a lot

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of the roster and even from Coach Prime. And the
truth of the matter is there wasn't always a lot
of talk about the game on the field as opposed
to unorthodox methods of how Sanders, you know, Dion Coach
Prime constructed his roster. There were two really interesting things
that have happened since Sanders first told a meeting room

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full of players that he was quote bringing his Lewis
unquote changed how we view that transition now, because the
first and most important is Dion did produce results in
the form of nine wins in a top twenty five
finish last season. That's you gotta tip your cap two

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years before that. I mean, this is the era now
in college football with the way the transfer portal and
nil and it's a wild wild West. You can see
a roster overhaul damn near overnight. But here's what's interesting.
You got first year coaches this year at Purdue, West Virginia,

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Central Florida, and North Carolina, and they've all got portal
classes between thirty nine and fifty three players. Very ultimate.
At Purdue as a portal fifty three players, Rich Rodriguez
fifty two. At West Virginia, it took over fifty transfers. Now,
that first Colorado portal class was like a complete outlier.

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We'd never seen anything like this before. But given the
recent trends looking at Colorado and their willingness to be
portaled heavy in their approach, it's no longer a differentiator Colorado.
They've boosted their recruiting profiles since Dion Sanders arrived, So look,

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let's give them the benefit of the doubt. He really
is trying to build for the future and not just
for this year. You have every right to Colorado to
judge Colorado by the results you win or lose. Bill
Parcells said it best, you are what your record says
you are. But without Travis Hunter's two way contribution on

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a Heisman Trophy winner and an exquisite playmaker Orshard or Sanders,
who basically the NFL Draft storyline is what we're going
to remember about that whole saga. Now. I think the
attention is fully back on Dion Colorado's tenth on the
odds board to win the Big Twelve. If you are

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feeling saucy, you can get Colorado at twenty seven to
one to Big twelve. But they have a preseason win
total six point five. So will they go seven and
five this year? Will they go six and six? I
don't know what they're gonna do. You one can hope
there will be a winning season. I think Travis Hunter

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is a huge is a huge, huge, huge loss coming
up was the fifth biggest story and for some folks, hell,
they might think it's the biggest story in college football
this year. I'm not willing to say that, but I
guarantee you the students won a few football games, and

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he's gonna be a head coach of a college football
team for the first time ever and win loser draw.
They're gonna have a lot of eyes on them. What's
the fifth biggest college football storyline heading into this year?
I'll tell you. Coming up, I'm Bernie Frittle. We're coming
to your life of the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

(01:51:00):
Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie
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Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio County Live from the
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my name?

Speaker 6 (01:51:19):
And man?

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
Do I have a doozy tonight from the great state
of Kentucky, Wayne County to be specific. All right, so
we're twenty three days away from college football. Hello everybody,
All right? I love Keith Jacks. You actually met him once.
It was a night. I gotta tell the story. So
it's nineteen ninety four. I think I talked about it

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in my book review From the Chief Seats. Michigan's playing
Colorado that day. It's a day that Cordell Stewart, on
the last play of the game, through the ball about
seventy yards to Michael Westbrook caught the ball in the
enzoe beat Michigan. One hundred thousand fans went silent. Ironically,
Michael Westbrook was from Detroit. He comes back to Michigan
and Colorado beats him. I think that was the last
year Bill McCartney coached, and I think I'm not sure.

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Here's the story. So Keith Jackson's in the press box
and I'd only had my credential three months. I think
the first well, the first event I covered was June seventeenth,
nineteen ninety four, which was the Toronto Blue Jays and
the Detroit Tigers. That was the night of the infamous
white Bronco chase, which we all watched on monitors in

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the press box with no sound. But I digress. So
I see Keith Jackson and I walk over to him,
and he's standing right there, larger in life. And I
shake his hand and I said, mister Jackson, I love
the way you talk. What a dork? I can't, I
said it. I did it, mister Jackson, I love the
way you talk. He looked at me, he says, well,

(01:52:50):
we've red talk funny, bo, we don't think funny. And
that was it, man, And I felt like, you know,
I don't know. I felt like someone just knife me
and metal shop. But you live and learn. So the
big college football stories arch manning. It begins for Texas,
who will contend for a title? And they open up

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at Ohio State? Ohio State? What about their on core?
And will they beat Michigan No. Number twenty ninth? And
can they come back with a lot of next man
up players even though they do have a couple of
stunts Jeremiah Smith and Caleb Downs. Georgia and Alabama, they
will be a story. They are still the patriarchal front
runners of the SEC. Every single year for twelve years,

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either Bama or Georgia has played for the SEC title.
Remember Georgia won it last year they beat Texas and
then faltered in the playoffs. How do Georgia and Alabama
respond to the disappointments of the last season the next one,
and this is big the post Travis Hunter, Shadoor Sanders
Eric Colorado, the temperature will get hot again. The focus

(01:53:58):
will be squarely on coach prime. How would they do?
What would their one lost record be? But the fifth
biggest story, and these are in no particular order, but
I think this for some might be the biggest. Bill
Belichick takes over at North Carolina and some jokingly are
calling is quote the thirty third NFL team. Are they
gonna win games? Their schedules are not that daunting. But

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here's what's interesting. When Dion Sanders showed up at Colorado,
he brought his son who had had success at Jackson
State and he was an NFL caliber quarterback, and he
brought an eventual Heisman Trophy winner in Travis Hunter. The
two sons Belichick brought or his own sons on the
defensive staff, got the old band together with a bunch

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of old coaching connections, and he's got this vision to
run this college program like a pro program. Now it's
gaining attention, Okay, And it's been about six months since
the Internetry Press conference, which I thought was a little
clunky we have no idea of is exactly what the
hell this team is going to look like. When North

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Carolina takes the field on Labor Day against TCU, the
coincidence is not lost on me. Deon Sanders, Travis Hunter,
and Shudoor Sanders made their debut at TCU, who'd been
in the National Championship the year before. TCU was a
twenty point favorite and Colorado shocked the world, and that

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just said everything going. Colorado was only twelve and twelve
after that point in two years, but they had a
lot of highlight reel you know, sightings as it were.
So look, there's been a lot of transfer portals, ins
and outs, and there's they've got their own depth chart
and where they practice and how they act and prepare
like a pro. They got a general manager by the
name of Michael Lombardi, and he says their team will

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be tough, says they'll be good in the middle of
the field. Says they're going to try to emulate SEC
teams that produce more players than any other conference. I'm
sure they'll block and tackle well. I have no idea
the talent level they have, and there's been no player
availability of the media no number. I understand there's no
numbers on jerseys during open sessions, and so many movie

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in pieces on the roster, there's no way to really know.
I talked to professional handicappers. They're kind of in lockstep
that Colorado's not going to have a great year. They're
like maybe a six to seven win team. Maybe I
don't know, but if you listen to Belichick's comments at
spring meetings, check that or the ACC spring meetings a
few months ago. Look, he is in his own way.

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He says he's going to have this team prepared, and
they've probably been preparing, you know, since day one. And
the way he prepares so he doesn't have a Tom
Brady and you know, all pro defense like he had
New England all those years. We'll see by the way,
one last thing, well, Penn State finally break through, and
I mean breakthrough by winning the whole damn thing. They've

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been teasing everybody since Moby Dick was a mino. This
is their air, this is the year, and they stink
it up and they lose the Michigan every year, and
they lose their Ohio State And this year they made
a pretty good run. They got to the semi finals.
They beat Boise State, they'd be Look, the Nidney Allions
are among the three most likely teams to win the
Big Ten, along with Ohio State in Oregon. But you

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still gotta do it. Okay, it's not bold to say
Penn State will be good. They have all the pieces
in place. I think James Franklin's a good coach. But
you just don't escape that what three and twelve record
against top five teams or whatever the hell it is.
So that's another story as well, and that's not the
only one. These are the ones I think we'll be
talking about most tell you what we're gonna be talking
about most of lock coming up? What kind of brand

(01:57:46):
from fool of you? Followed by what my name? Keep
it locked? Or listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, that's richer. Heard the man the
Bernie Frattle Show keeps for Roland right along. My name
is Bernie Froanter. We are come to your line from
the Fox Sports Radio compound here in Las Vegas. It's

(01:58:08):
been a rock as show on I once again think
all the phenomenal callers are in the midnight hour. As
we talked about the likes of the WNBA CBA and
the All Star Game debacle, which should have been a
celebration turned into a conversation, which makes it feel like
the popularity the WNBA is deflating faster than a T

(01:58:28):
on a breast implant. But that's a conversation for a
different day. We also talked about Hulk Hogan, his legacy
and you know the NFL players, one hundred of them,
along with league official employees selling their allotment of Super
Bowl tickets out of profit. Great callers tonight, But we've
come to that juncture in the show You Know What

(01:58:49):
You Love You Candley, without it the dance sensation sweep
in the nation. See because as Yogi Berra once said,
you can observe a lot by watching, and we do
because every day around this's great land of ours, from
sea to oily sea, and even around the globe, the planet,
the universe. Well, people they like to engage in things, okay, activities,

(01:59:14):
sometimes embarrassing, stupid, nefarious activities. Maybe sometimes they're harmless, other
times they're more serious. Many times they are illegal lacks
that could even land you in jail. But anyway you
slice it, anyway you describe it anyway you characterize it.
Every one of these behaviors always always leaves us scratching
our head and asking ourselves, what kind of brand new

(01:59:37):
fool are you? So? What kind of brand new fool
are you? This one is a beauty. I don't even
know where to start, so I'll just start by saying,
we take you to Wayne County, Kentucky. And they say,
the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Imagine

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giving your mother a Mother's Day gift and that sparks
a string of circumstances which land you in jail. Can't
make this stuff up, folks, We could, but we don't
do that. These are actually real stories. It starts by
a young man. His name is Jacob. His name is Jacob,

(02:00:26):
won't give his last name this time. And recently, on
Mother's Day, he decided he would give his mother a present.
And you know what's a typical Mother's Day gift? You
know how flowers, nice meal, gift, jewelry, clothes. No, he
got her an Xbox controller. Yeah, Jacob got his mom
an x Box controller. What mom wouldn't be thrilled about

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getting an x Box controller? And that's where the fun
really begins. I don't know what the hell happened from there,
but but Jacob's mother and another female got into an
argument with the aforementioned Jacob, which led to Jacob's arrest.

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Why because the young man decided to really have a
walloping Mother's Day celebration, and since he was twenty two
years old himself, he decided, what the hell, I'd pull
out a twenty two caliber rifle and shoot my mom. Yes,
young Jacob shot his mother on Mother's Day because something

(02:01:35):
happened having to do with an argument about getting an
xbox for Mother's Day. According to the Sheriff's office, actually,
the mother and another female were trying to leave the
home when young Jacob fired the twenty two year old
or check out, he's twenty two years old, and he

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fired at twenty two caliber rifle into the vehicle, hitting
his mother and then small young man. He actually led
the deputy to the rifle that was used in the incident.
Because according to the Sheriff's office, the mother was treated
at Wayne County Hospital then transferred to UK Hospital for
further treatment. Her condition is unknown, but mister Jacob of

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Mancella was arrested charged with murder domestic violence, attempted assault
first degree, domestic violence, criminal initiative second degree, and he
was booked in the Wayne County Divention Center. Mister Jacob
of Monticello, Wayne County, Kentucky, Happy Mother's Day? What kind
of brand new fool? Are you all right? Brandon? You

(02:02:41):
had your what kind of brand new fool debut last
week and did great? What have you got for us tonight?

Speaker 18 (02:02:49):
Well, Bernie, I'm gonna take you back to Florida, because
why not? When we can't go anywhere else? All you
gotta do never failed, look up, Florida never fails. So
we go to I believe this is how you pronounce it.
Now forgive me if we have any listeners that live
here Va Lucilla County in Vlusha, I think, okay, okay,

(02:03:13):
I want to say dumb, but yeah, Vlusha County. A
woman eighteen years old who was unill. They don't have
a name. They didn't give a name, but an unnamed
woman is facing charges in Vlusha County after she vandalized
a car that she thought belonged to her ex boyfriend.
But guess what, Bernie, it.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
Was the wrong car.

Speaker 18 (02:03:35):
How was that even possible? When so deputy said, they
responded to a vandalism call overnight along Grammercy Drive in
del Tone about a young woman spray painting a vehicle.
When the deputies got there, they found an eighteen year
old and a sixteen year old girl. Investigator said the
younger girl had yellow spray paint on her sweatpants. When question,
the eighteen year old admitted she was upset with her

(02:03:57):
ex boyfriend and decided to spray paint to throw eggs
at what she thought was his vehicle. The release reads, Unfortunately,
the vehicle in question belonged to a neighbor, not her
ex boyfriend, and according to the arrest the eighteen year
old deputies told deputies that our ex boyfriend owned owed

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her seven hundred dollars, which is what spurred the active vegeance.
So I have to say, random eighteen year old woman
trying to spray paint her ex boyfriend's vehicle but ended
up being a neighbor's what kind of brand new fool
are you?

Speaker 1 (02:04:34):
Yeah, just throwing eggs into Vehicle's bad enough for me,
especially with the price of eggs, right.

Speaker 18 (02:04:39):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (02:04:40):
All right, Well, that will conclude another rousing edition of
what kind of brand new fool are you, which now
allows us to save way into our second favorite bit,
which we lovingly referred to as what my name? And
here we go? All right, I'm a current NFL calls quarterback,

(02:05:01):
and among all rookies in the history of the NFL,
I actually have the record for most consecutive passes without
an interception for all rookie quarterbacks. Mark Ramsey, what my name,
here's a clue, I'm in the NFC North is it?

Speaker 6 (02:05:25):
Is it?

Speaker 18 (02:05:25):
Caleb?

Speaker 1 (02:05:26):
It is, in fact Caleb Williams. I believe he actually
had the record last year. I forgot what the number was,
might have been like one hundred and sixty years. Somebody
can maybe correct me, the most consecutive passes without an
interception without all rookies. Moving on, well, basketball is kind
of in its law season right now. The NBA Summer

(02:05:49):
league's over and free agencies over and you know it'll
be here before too long. But why not have what
my name question evolving? Bass? You see, because I'm a
very noteworthy player, but I actually have committed more turnovers
in the history of anybody in the NBA. Brandon, what

(02:06:13):
my name? And here's a clue. I'm still active I'm
still playing.

Speaker 18 (02:06:17):
Is it Lebron nicely done?

Speaker 1 (02:06:19):
It's Lebron James. It's actually Lebron James's turned the ball
over more than anybody an anstry of the NBA Lebron Jiles.
All right, well, we've got some great pitchy performances happening
in the major leagues. His yuar. Even though Tarrek's school

(02:06:39):
lost to Toronto Saturday Night the Tigers, he may win
a Sally Young. Guess what? I was the last back
to back cy Young winner in the American League back
in nineteen ninety nine and two thousand. Mark Ramsey what
my name? And a lot of people might remember me

(02:07:01):
from grabbing Don's inver by the head and throwing him
to the ground. What my name? Oh?

Speaker 18 (02:07:09):
I know he has a brother. I forget his own biz.
I forgot his name.

Speaker 1 (02:07:15):
I forgot It's okay, It's okay, all right, moving on.
I'm the last pitcher to win back to back Siang
Awards in the American League. Did it back in nineteen
ninety nine? In two thousand, I made most of my
bones with the Red Sox. Uh Brandon, what my name?

Speaker 18 (02:07:31):
I believe this is Pedro Martinez of the Boston Red Sox,
and you believe right.

Speaker 1 (02:07:37):
It is in fact Pedro Martinez. So you guys are
free for fee. So far, well, not to be outdone.
This one's a little tougher. I'm the last National League
pitcher to win back to back signing awards. I did
it back in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen. Mark Ramsey,

(02:07:58):
what my name? Here's a clue, I'm on a prime
comminent National League East team, or I was on a
prominent National League East team when I did this.

Speaker 9 (02:08:09):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (02:08:10):
He might have the same first name as my protagonist
in the brand new fool segment.

Speaker 18 (02:08:18):
I want to guess in is it? Sure's there?

Speaker 1 (02:08:21):
It's good guest? Was not Max Srzy, not Max Sures,
not not Mets? Okay, it's good guests Pedro Martit? Okay,
I'll check that was he was the al Okay, So
I'm the last NL pitcher to went back to back
setting and ward winners. Did it in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen.
I'll give a little better clue. That was a good guess, though.
Marcus Schuzer had some time with the Mets. Brandy what

(02:08:41):
my name? And uh I did it with the Mets.

Speaker 18 (02:08:46):
Yeah, this is a guy who should be finishing top
three in al Cy Young voting this year for the
Texas Rangers. And a comeback. I believe it is Jacob
de Grom.

Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
Wow, well done, well done. It is Jacob de Gram
And I remember when Texas arrested him two years ago,
sham on me. I was a little critical of the
move because they needed bullpen. That was Bruce Bochie's year
and they won it all and I and they got
a starter whos some comeback is a good word because
there was no question. But he's proved us wrong. So good.

(02:09:17):
You guys are four for four, all right. I'm the
last Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher to win back to back
Signing Award winners. I did it in twenty thirteen and
twenty fourteen. Mark Ramsey went my name, and I just
set a record recently for strikeouts. I'm a leftander, a

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very popular player.

Speaker 18 (02:09:40):
It's got to be the Saint Louis Cartinal's favorite person. Kershaw.

Speaker 1 (02:09:44):
Nicely done, Clayton Kershaw. God, it seems like he's been
around forever.

Speaker 18 (02:09:49):
Great guy, what a career, and Saint Louis just loves
him to death.

Speaker 1 (02:09:57):
Moving along, all right, I am the first rookie rookie
in Major League Baseball history to have a four home
run game. Brandon, what my name? Here's a good clue.
Just a year ago, I was playing first base for
wake Forest University.

Speaker 18 (02:10:13):
Yeah, this is I believe they call him the big
amish Nick Nicholas Kurtz.

Speaker 1 (02:10:20):
Nick Kurtz, Right, my buddy, my buddy, Larry Sorenson, ten
year major league pitcher. Larry's been on this show many times.
He's part of the broadcast team of Wake Forest. He
told me about Nick first Nick Kurtz a couple of
years ago. By the way, I think their last three
first basement I've gotten to the big leagues. This guy
had thirty three games in the minor leagues and he's
just raking. They're gonna have to find a higher league

(02:10:42):
for him. Just unreal. And I don't know if you
guys saw the highlights. He almost had a fifth home run.
He went over the top on the top of the wall.
He got six hits, eight RBIs and it did you know,
nineteen total bases sam as Sean Green did in twenty
oh two, but he had one more RBI. Incredible, six hits,

(02:11:03):
eight RBIs four home runs and almost had a fifth.
While we're on the subject, I have hit eleven home
runs in July. That is more than any other player
in Major League Baseball. Mark Ramsey, what my name? Here's
a clue. I played for the Philadelphia Phillies, but I

(02:11:24):
used to play for a hometown where you used to live.

Speaker 18 (02:11:27):
Mark, is it the Schweber It is Schwarber, Kryle, Schwarber.

Speaker 1 (02:11:34):
Ride of Indiana. All right, let's wrap it up with
one more. The nfls. They're in camp and by this
time next week already played a game, albeit the Hall
of Fame game. But you've got the Lions in the

(02:11:56):
Chargers Thursday night, and then this is the last This
is the last week and with no football. So speaking
of that, along active NFL coaches who haven't won a
Super Bowl, I've won more games than any other of
those coaches. So I'm a current NFL head coach that

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have won more games than any of the group of
coaches who's never won the Super Bowl. Brandon what my name?
And here's a clue. I coach in the NFC North.
Oh wow, this this one is very You're gonna get
this by process of elimination.

Speaker 18 (02:12:36):
Yeah, well, NFC North. It's not Kevin O'Connell. It's not
Matt Lafleur, it's not Ben Johnson, so it's gotta be
Dan Campbell.

Speaker 1 (02:12:47):
I like the way you did that, but I liked,
but it's not Dan Campbell. And yeah, you may be
kicking yourself, but it's okay, fair enough. I'll tighten it
up in a minute. I am a active head coach
in the NFL, never won a Super Bowl, but I
won more games than any other head coach in the
NFL at this time. Who's never won a Super Bowl?

(02:13:10):
Mark Ramsey, what my name?

Speaker 19 (02:13:14):
And you said NFC right, NFC North, And I was thinking,
it's the guy who coaches the Packers.

Speaker 1 (02:13:22):
It is the guy that coaches the Packers.

Speaker 6 (02:13:24):
Is that his name?

Speaker 1 (02:13:26):
Yep, believe it or not. And Brandon. So what's interesting
is Matt Lafleur has been there since twenty nineteen and
Dan Campbell his first year with the Lions as a
head coach was twenty twenty one, so Matt Lafleur had
a two year head start on him.

Speaker 18 (02:13:47):
Lafloora is more wins than Kyle Shanahan as a head coach.

Speaker 1 (02:13:51):
I believes, well, unless my research is wrong, I believe
that Matt Lafleur, among active NFL coaches, has the most.

Speaker 18 (02:13:58):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:14:00):
Maybe you know what, correct me if I'm wrong. I
get one wrong every now and then.

Speaker 18 (02:14:04):
No, No, I mean, I just know that Kyle as
a Niners fan, die hard.

Speaker 8 (02:14:07):
I know that.

Speaker 18 (02:14:08):
You know he's won a bazillion playoff games and games
in the regular season. But I think laflor has had
more consistency, right, Like they win nine or ten games
every year. Niners are kind of twelve.

Speaker 1 (02:14:17):
One, Like I want to say I had the number
sixty six games something like that. You listen, I'm willing
to be corrected. I could be wrong. That's a good catch,
and I could have this wrong. So I have to
I'm gonna have to probably have to look this up

(02:14:39):
to see what his record is as a head coach.
But Kyle Shanahan has been with the Niners since the
twenty seventeen season. Now, I know, in twenty eighteen they
only won four games. They've had a couple of stinky years,
so I'd have to look it up. But I think

(02:15:00):
I think, well, he's won seventy regular season games and
Let's see what Matt Lafleur has won. Shame on me,
but I should know this and I could be wrong,
So good catch. Let's see apparently Matt Lafleur. Now you're right,

(02:15:21):
Matt Lafleur has won sixty seven games. And it's funny
because he's finished first three times, second and third. All right,
good job, good job, onward and upward. All right. That's
going to conclude another rousing. What kind of brand new
fool of you followed by what my name? A good job, guys,

(02:15:45):
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seat this year, we'll talk about it. Coming up Bernie
fraddlework coming toy line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports
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Speaker 3 (02:16:29):
listen live.

Speaker 1 (02:16:42):
There We're back in the Bernie Fraddle Show Fox Sports Radio.
There's a few I use the term hot seat, but
perhaps under the white hot spotlight is more appropriate. There's
a handful of quarterbacks that I believe media outlets are
going to be watching every movie. And I'm gonna start
with Sam Donald. It's interesting coming off the sensational year

(02:17:04):
he had Minnesota. They say for the playoff debacle, the
poor guy got hit more than Rocky Balboa. He's only
got a one year deal in Seattle as a practical
matter at Seahawks say they like Jalen Milroe. We'll see,
but Sam Donald's really gonna have to play well to
secure his status for twenty twenty six. So he's very
much under the white hot spotlight. Same with JJ McCarthy

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or the Vikings. Sam Donald's old team. He's getting a
shot to play. A knee injury wiped out his rookie season,
But I'm guessing anything under an outright disaster will pretty
much ensure his status for twenty twenty six. At worst,
I think maybe they'd bring in a vetter and they'd
have to compete with. But he is going to be
under the white hot spotlight spotlight. Fair How about Russell

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Wilson of the Giants if he's the Week one starter,
which I believe you will. I know Jackson Dart I
believe eventually will live up to his first round draft stock.
The clock is gonna be ticking on Russell Wilson immediately. Okay.
In two thousand and four, the Giants benched Kurt Warner
after nine games for Eli Manning. Yes they did, even
though the Giants were five and four at the time.

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So when Jackson Dart is ready, Dart's gonna play. Even
if Wilson makes it through this year without getting benched,
it's stopfield. He'll beat out Dart in twenty twenty six.
So the white hot spotlight very much on Russell Wilson.
About the sixty million dollar man, Dak Prescott, He's not
on a hot seat, but he's on the white hot
sunlight hot seat because you pay a guy sixty million

(02:18:36):
a year. That's not only reeks havoc on the salary cap.
If they were to cut or trade him, he has
a no trade clause, but he can wave it. The
complication is that the forty five million dollars salary for
twenty twenty seven becomes fully guaranteed on the fifth day
of the league year. So they're stuck with this guy now.
Really it's because Jerry waited too long to pay him,

(02:18:56):
but the guy doesn't win. I also think, you know
Smith is on the white hot spotlight because he's got
eighteen and a half million in guarantees. He has close
times to beat Carol. But you're gonna want you want
all this hype to end up in six wins, five wins.
I think you might have to put Trevor Lawrence in
the same category. Now, every new coach wants his own quarterback,

(02:19:18):
except when you inherit somebody like you know, Peyton Manning.
But it's not clear whether Lawrence is on the short
list of franchise quarterbacks. He was on track to b
one three years ago, but the past two years haven't
been good enough and they got a new coach and
Liam Cole and who's an offensive genies who like Baker Mayfield.
If Lawrence doesn't play it better in twenty twenty five,
he may be out. I could go on with you know,

(02:19:40):
Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson's and all the Bratt Browns
quarterbacks and Tua and Justin Fields. But let's face it.
You know, if your name's not Josh Allen or Patrick
Mahomes or Lamar Jackson, and you're on a white hot
sunlight attention span, and I guarantee you just about every
move in the local media is going to be scrutinized.

(02:20:04):
We covered all here on the Bernie Frontal Show, including
the sport they call football but they spell at futbol.
We call it soccer. It's time Chris Burfetts World Soccer.

Speaker 3 (02:20:13):
The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drama.

Speaker 6 (02:20:26):
Aim give.

Speaker 3 (02:20:28):
It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

Speaker 19 (02:20:33):
Kind of an interesting summer we've had, Bernie here on
the World of Soccer. We didn't really get a chance
to talk before you were off about the arse kicking
that Parising Jermaine, Champions of Europe, had at the FIFA
Club World Cup at the hands of Chelsea and I'm
still trying to parse that one out exactly what happened there.
But sometimes when you just get off the skids at

(02:20:55):
the right time, soccer is very much so a game
of meentum and Chelsea had at the entire way through.
But summer marches on. We have the euro Women's Championship
coming up here on Sunday morning between England and Spain,
the real two powerhouses of the women's game in Europe.

(02:21:16):
You can expect to see that at noon Eastern on
Big Fox. Should be one hell of a matchup there. Meanwhile,
we have some interesting news out of the MLS as
Leonel Messi has been suspended a game for not playing
in MLS's All Star game against the Liga MX All Stars,

(02:21:37):
which she didn't play last year as well.

Speaker 3 (02:21:39):
This seems like a very odd idea.

Speaker 19 (02:21:42):
There was enough of a bit of an outcry, especially
from people like me who are like, look, he's been
voted in. I'm not sure why your all star has
decided not to play in an all star game, especially
one that you've based your entire league's persona around in
MLS like Leonel Messi, But this is just more rare
for Lionel Messi. As without Messi, Miami played to a

(02:22:04):
nil nil draw against Cincinnati. But that's all really eclipse,
because what we're talking about today is the big business
of friendlies. And this is, don't get me wrong, friendly season.
We're already getting close, like probably about a month or
change out from the European calendar. Again, this is why

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the Club World Cup puts such a strain on things
because it's already coming back. We've had no time to breathe.
The next year is going to be the actual World
Cup too, And you'd like to say, okay, but what's
the really the big deal about friendly As well? As
Jay Z once put it, he's not a businessman. He's
a business man, and that is exactly what European soccer

(02:22:48):
has become as friendlies provide the easiest way to play
matches in other places, especially for a lot of English clubs,
there's a lot of pressure to play a lot of
these matches, plays like Southeastern Europe or in the case
of this summer right now, since they were already over here.
You're seeing quite a bit of matches happening in MetLife

(02:23:10):
Stadium in East Brotherford, New Jersey, where We've had two
on Saturday, one between Bournemouth and Everton and one between
Manchester United and West Ham United.

Speaker 3 (02:23:20):
This is not to say.

Speaker 19 (02:23:21):
Something of the really amazing match we really had in
Hong Kong between Liverpool and AC Milan, a matchup that
you'd usually expect to see in something like say the
UEFA Champions League and instead is being played in Milan.

Speaker 18 (02:23:40):
Now, listen, some stars are playing.

Speaker 19 (02:23:42):
Cody Gagpo had a goal for Liverpool and Rust assured
he came on to replace Mohammed Salah, their biggest stars.
So it's not like they're only sending the practice squads
over here or something. These are not preseason games. These
are full sized games meant to put on shows for
audiences outside of their local populations. Because they are big, big,

(02:24:06):
big business. There's a reason why they're playing in the
United States and Hong Kong and eventually in India as well.
I know last year the Guardian had a number that
north of ten million dollars for Premier League clubs alone
was the draw on when it came to holding friendlies

(02:24:27):
in just in the United States. And of course you're
also seeing a lot of these clubs with American investor owners,
some of them happening to be athlete owner investors as well,
such as in the case of Liverpool, I know Lebron
James himself has a bit of a stake. This is
the time, of course, the summer is the time of
money when it comes to the world of soccer. And

(02:24:49):
of course we haven't even talked about the transfer window
just yet. One big name that has moved and you
really should keep an eye on there's a lot of
rumors floating around there. We'll try to get a bigger
picture here in the next world of soccer. But Marcus Rashford,
the brilliant English forward nominally of Manchester United. He had

(02:25:11):
been on loan in twenty twenty five to Aston Villa
and now has another loan out as he moves to
La Liga to Barcelona. Barcelona who claimed the twenty twenty
five La Liga title and would like to continue their
dominance over hated Real Madrid. And this is a very
fascinating loan, mostly because there is an option for a

(02:25:34):
permanent basis valued at about thirty five million euros or
about forty one million dollars United States. This is a
bit surprising, I mean, granted, Manchester United's kind of in
this basis where they kind of need the capitol and
Rashford's not really seeing a lot of meaningful play with
a club that finished as low as they did on

(02:25:57):
the English table here at fifteenth, he's going to be
twenty eighth this year. He's kind of in the last great,
golden but great years of his career. Right now he'll
be playing for probably another World Cup for the English
national team as well. Meaningful minutes with bar with a

(02:26:20):
team as good as Barcelona is absolutely a great move.
It is also, however, a bit of a honor blow
to Manchester United, who has to give up someone who
has been as fantastic for the English team to a
Spanish club. But that's the way it goes. That wraps

(02:26:42):
up the world of soccer. Bernie will see you next week.
Stay safe out there, folks.

Speaker 1 (02:26:47):
There we have it, the world of soccer. It's about
to get real as World Cup is around the corner,
which is exactly when we began and launched this feature
many years ago. I want to remind everybody you can
stream this show and all of our Fox Sports Radio
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(02:27:11):
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Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app and it will
always pop up on the top of your screen. Coming up,

(02:27:33):
we close down the show, and I want to help
you relive one of the greatest offensive baseball performances since
Herman Munster tried out for the Chicago Cubs and hit
a ball seven blocks and clumped Leo de Rocha around
the head. Yeah it happened, folks. I'm Bernie fraddlewer comedy

(02:27:53):
line from Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked.
You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, we are wrapping it up on the Bernie
Frattle Show. I've been with you on these airwaves since
eleven pm Pacific time on Saturday night. I want to
thank my producers Mark and Brandon. Great job tonight, turning

(02:28:17):
all the dials, keeping us glued together, keeping the plane
in the air, answering all the phones. Excellent job on
a brand new fool and what my name. I really
appreciate the professionalism and the effort. These guys make it
look easy, So thanks again, really appreciate all of that.

(02:28:39):
You know who else made it look easy? You know
my buddy Larry Sorenson, who pitched ten years in the
major leagues, in most noteworthy with the very good Milwaukee
Brewers teams in a seventy eight All Star Game, retired
nine minute in a row. I think it's a reckon
of you broken. Larry and I talk all the time.
He does radio, worked for Wake Forest University. He's one

(02:29:02):
of the color men on the football team and certainly
the baseball team. He told me about Nick Kurtz about
a year ago, two years. It's actually Nick Kurtz hit
sixty one home runs while he was at Wake Forest.
He's not twenty three in the major leagues in like
two hundred and forty at bats. He had thirty three
games in the minor leagues. He was playing here in
Las Vegas. He had seven home runs and what are
they waiting for? Reminds me of Bob Warner back in

(02:29:23):
seventy eight when he went straight from Arizona straight to
the Major leagues for the Atlanta Braves, had twenty three
home runs and the remainder of the year. Horner's career
was checkered after that. But this Kurtz, dude, man, this
is what we are seeing a generation of stars now.
And if you need any evidence, look what the heck
happened the other night. Kurtz's performance on Friday raised this

(02:29:47):
season slash line. He's now hitting three zero five, He's
had two hundred and seventy one Major League played appearances
in his first sixty six games. He's got forty three
extra base hits. There's only one player in the history
of baseball that did more than that in their first
sixty six games. God by the name of Joe DiMaggio.

Speaker 16 (02:30:10):
But what.

Speaker 1 (02:30:12):
Nick Kurtz did Friday night, He produced arguably the greatest
single game performance in baseball history. He etched his name
into the you know, sports lower highlight reel in a
way few will ever do. It was a Diking Park,
the former Enron Field and Minute Made Park in Houston.

(02:30:35):
You need a program to keep track of all these
first rookie to ever hit four home runs in a game.
During the A's fifteen to three win over the Houston Astros.
And here's what's interesting. I've watched the highlights a bunch
of times. Maybe people are talking about it and I
missed it. He almost hit a fifth home run, all right.

(02:30:57):
If you he hit a shot to the left, the
opposite field, most you know he's got a great inside outswing,
squares up the bat. But if you look at all
the advertisements in the left field corner above the three
sixty six sign at Dykin Park, there's one that says
one point five. There's one that says EMC jet, and

(02:31:17):
there's another one Merrill Lynch. But there's one in blue
it says one point five. How symbolic because he came
about one point five feet from hitting a fifth home
run that's never been done. Now, there's only been twenty
four homer games in history. To give some perspective, there

(02:31:40):
have been more perfect games than there have been four
homer games. Kurtz went six for six, four homers, five
extra base its, including again a double that I just
mentioned that landed about a foot and a half short
of a fifth home run, eight RBIs, and he scored
six runs out on that missus Lincoln, how was the
play total basis Todd my buddy Sean Green. Sean Green

(02:32:04):
went to Tustin High School, same as is Sean Foster
and Mark Grace and Gottlieb and schools produced a lot.
Heath Heath Miller was no, they got the wrong end
the reliever for the chart of the padres. Anyway, Green
and Kurts are the only players to record six hits

(02:32:26):
four home runs in a game. Kurtz also became the
ninth player since nineteen hundred scored six runs in a game.
Kurtz is the twentieth player in history to hit four
home runs in a game, in the first ever to
wear an athletic uniform an Oakland Athletic uniform.

Speaker 8 (02:32:40):
To do it.

Speaker 1 (02:32:42):
He's only the second A's player with five plus hits
and three plus homers in a game, other than Jimmy Fox,
who had a six hit, three homer game back in
nineteen thirty two. You remember I think it was windy
that day. Yeah, twenty two years old, one hundred and
thirty five days, by far, by far the young mis
member of the forur homer game. Now, as I said,

(02:33:03):
just last July, Kurtz was drafted fourth overall by a
Wake Forest out a wake Forest. He spent a total
of thirty three days in the minors thirty three games
in the minors, which might have been too long. Made
his big league debut on April twenty third, and he
only played twenty games in Tripola. Like I said, his
forty three extra base hits are the most by a

(02:33:24):
player through his first sixty six games since Joe Demaggio
back in nineteen thirty six. By the way, he had
one more RBI than Sean Green did. And so I
don't know, come see you comes out, pick your poison.
Whoever you think had the best had the best offensive day.

(02:33:46):
Mulligan offensive week. That's a week. Man. If you just
did that every week major League baseball season is if
you had four home nuns every week in nineteen forget it.
You get the picture, all right? Eight them. Oh my god,
I'm at a loss for words, honestly, because this kid

(02:34:09):
just he's twenty three years old, just out of Wake Forest.
But there's another aspect to this game that really it's
almost sort of comical. You know howevery now and then
you'll go to a game and there's a blowout happening,
and all of a sudden, you know, they're bringing a
back of brightfielder to pitch or something like that. Well,

(02:34:29):
that happened in the game Friday night, all right. Kertz
had three hits off the starters for the Astro that night.
His name is Ryan Gusto, and they all went to
the opposite field, including that three hundred and eighty four
foot home brown in the second inning that he doubled.
That was the double I just told you about earlier

(02:34:50):
in the game, three eighty one banged off the facade.
According to Major League Baseball Savant, that double edg just
told you about that, that Kurtz hit that landed on
the one point five sign would have been a home
run in six ballparks, not all thirty did. In fact,
twenty four to thirty would have been but six of them.

(02:35:11):
The rest also would have been home runs. He would
have hit five runs in the game. It's never been done.
Kurtz thought it was a home run, he thought it
was out. He hits the ball the other way, and
like Mark Kotze said, the way Nick Kurtz hits the
ball the other way, it's like a right hander pulling
the ball. But let me get to the funny part
here in the eighth inning, after you know, Kurtz pulled
the first pitch fastball from a reliever named Caleb Ord

(02:35:32):
into the third deck of the right field seats, so
that gave them a nine run lead, and that guaranteed
an Astro's position player would come in and pitch the
ninth inning, which he did. His name is Cooper Hunner, A,
Cooper Homer, Cooper Hummel. Excuse me this time I ran
a tongue from that place. But here's the deal. Kurtz's
spot in the batting murder was five spots away, so

(02:35:54):
he stood a triple away from hitting for the cycle.
And he'd already told his third base coach, Eric Martins,
he goes, if I hit one in the gap, I'm
going three, okay. So all of a sudden we get
to the ninth inning, and you know the age are
the visiting teams that they're batting. Lawrence Butler gets a hit,
Gee or Schela gets a hit, Carlos Cortes gets a hit.

(02:36:18):
This is all off Cooper Hummel, who's not a pitcher.
He's showing seventy seven miles an hour. That's batting practice speed.
Most guys try to jerk that and they pop it up.
Kurtz came to the plate and he said, all right,
I'm locked in. They locked in. We're gonna do it.
Neither of the first two pitches that Kurtz faced reached

(02:36:38):
eighty miles an hour or landed anywhere near the strike zone.
A third one was clocked at seventy six and it
got the outer half of the corner. Kurtz didn't take
that pitch. He hit it three hundred and eighty five
feet the other way into the Crawford boxes. He can't
make this stuff up. So you see these guys come
in throwing noodles, and most players them up or strike

(02:37:01):
you know, they don't strike out, but and coot the
Kurtz hit a home run off Cooper Hommel as well.
The ballpark was half empty at that time. But the
people who thought were still dumbfounded. And I still am dumbfounded,
as you can see by my rate of speech. It's
good to do it for the Bernie Frawler Show. Ladies
and gentlemen. Keep it locked. Two Hall of famers up,
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