The Fellas with Anthony Gargano & Jason Fitz discuss Shohei Ohtani, Eagles Huge Loss, Week 3 NFL Matchups & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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(00:28):
buying should be. And I missed my boy. I missed
my boy, and there it was less Sunday, a huge
victory over the Ravens. Will you say, my brother, Good morning, Dozzie.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
So there are certain wins, there are certain games. I
got a phrase for a game where you just put
your feet up. You don't have to really be attend
to it. It's called a beer game. You just sit back,
enjoy your beer. Doesn't really matter.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Should we call that a cigar piece or a or
a rock and chair ride?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Oh? I like a rocket share ride is classy? Like that?
That's just screams classy. I'm stealing rocket Share ride. I
hope that's what the Raiders have tomorrow. But I will
tell you this, last Sunday was what I like to
call a Crumble Cookie Day, not for me, for my neighbors,
because my neighbor's gonna learn some new words, and that
means that I'm gonna have to take over some Crumble
cookie on Monday, which is exactly what I did. Like

(01:21):
I got the sweetest couple that lives right next door.
Like when the door's open, they hear the mother efforts
coming out, they hear all of the chaos. And I'm
telling you, when the Raiders won that game in the
fourth quarter, there were things spewing out of my mouth
that would have had nuns blushing. So I Monday, I
did what you do, was a good neighbor, and I
took over a four pack of Crumble cookies and said,
I'm sorry, that's the kind of day it was on Sunday.

(01:42):
And I didn't even mind overspending for the cookies because
that was a huge I'm telling you, man, Like some
sometimes a coach needs identity, right, like you gotta find
a way to make a team sort of take your identity.
And I always say, you gotta have this tag team
like coach and quarterback. I think because the Raid don't
have the quarterback that is their identity, They've instead taking

(02:04):
this identity from Antonio pears in This and identity from
Max Crosby, and they've made it the fabric of who
they are as a franchise. And man, it was on
display on Sunday. I had goosebumps watching that because that
was truly an identity character win for one team. That
was a beautiful thing. But I'm still high on it
six days later.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Dude, I hear it. I love it. I heard your voice. Man,
you got you got the giddy up.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Well, I'm hanging out with you. That gives me the
giddy up on Now.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I missed you, buddy, I missed you.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Next week man, Saturday Morning Cartoons, I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
On the other hand, I am. We're giving up on
the season. It was a week of drama in my
town after Let me ask you, let me get into
it and ask you, because listen, I understand and I

(03:06):
appreciate the numbers and analytics and and I and I
get it, and it's a it's a very useful tool.
But I say this all the time. I say, you know,
when you use numbers as a religion and you completely
forego the feel of the game, and you sell out

(03:27):
to purely the numbers and what the what the sheet says, right,
it's it's just a recipe for disaster. You know, there's
a reason why Jim Harball just wins and Jim Harball punts,
he kicks field goals. At times he runs the ball

(03:48):
when the other team has no time out, Like that's
kind of football. Like I understand that a lot of
new young head coaches think they invented the game five
years ago by playing Madden. But the game's been around
a long time and there's basic tenants of the game

(04:10):
that I think you need to respect. So if you
see that the game is gonna be one where points
they're gonna be at a premium, right, you got true
running backs, get you got Bijon Robinson, Saquon Barkley. So
two teams are gonna try to run the ball, which
means the clock's gonna run, right, So you know it's

(04:33):
not gonna be a shootout. Therefore you go, I'll take
the points on the fourth drive of the game because
it just makes sense to take the points in that
spot and not go fourth on fourth and fourth and
if there's you know, the Falcons have no time out
even if the play works right and you know, I'll

(04:55):
never deny that throwing the ball to Barkley is a
good idea. Yeah, I do think it's a good idea,
except when they have no timeouts, because when you throw
the ball, inherently, there's two bad things that can happen
as opposed to one good thing. Right, there's a multitude
of freakish things that could cause Barkley to drop the football,

(05:20):
like he just drops it, or Jalalen just happens to
air mail it. There's it just happens. You know, it
may only happen ten times out of one hundred and
ninety times he catches the ball. But you gotta you
gotta subscribe to the theory that why I don't need
to win the game there. Yeah, it's nice, but I

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don't need to win the game there not when I
that could happen. I see, it drives me insane.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
What really stands out to me about analytics because I
think it's not I'm not anti or row analytics. I
think they're one factor in the decision.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
To say it that way.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
The hardest part about analytics is that they don't take
into context what's happened in the rest of the game.
They don't like saying you should go for it on
fourth and three in this situation of fourth and four
in that situation doesn't give me any context to what
was the other team's defense tired right now? Like a
fourth and four right there is different than a fourth

(06:24):
and four, you know early in the game, like how
how is the offensive line playing? Like what's what's the
brotherly shove look like? Right now? You know, I think
there are so many other factors other than just saying, well,
the data shows this. I get what the data says
as part of it, but you do also have to
watch some feel of the game. And I think right
now there is this epidemic in the NFL of cuteness

(06:45):
from offensive ass and I I don't understand it.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Like I'll be back the word I use this week, cute'
that's the Eagles get too cute.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I mean, I'll go back to the Ravens beating the Raiders.
If Todd Munkin, the offensive coordinator for Baltimore, acknowledges the
same thing that the broadcast crew acknowledged in the fourth quarter,
which was that the Raiders defensive line was gassed. They've
been out on the field a bunch they had nothing left.
They were talking about it on the broadcast. Yet when
you have Derrick Henry there, you just stopped running the
football on several drives, you got cute and went for

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a nice little first down pass instead, which only fed
Max Crossby. Like that made no sense. I think the
Ravens getting away from the run is the reason they
lost the game. And you know, you look at it
at Philly in that situation, and I understand, I genuinely
can say I understand the logic of let's do an
aggressive play call here and get the ball to a
guy that could be the MVP of the NFL this season.

(07:38):
What could go wrong? I understand the concept behind the
plane call, But I also do understand that as a coach,
you got to look around and say, okay, risk reward,
what's our risk here? What's our reward? If you're in
a situation where you can get yourself within a few
inches of put in the game away, that's a better
situation to me, and you're running the ball effectively. I
just I thought it was unnecessarily aggressive. And I love

(07:59):
aggressed Blake calling. It's fine. It just was one of
those things where you left the door cracked, and you
didn't have to leave the door cracked. So to me,
there is this level of like risk reward. Maybe that's
the gambler in me, Like I constantly look at risk
reward on all of this and say when is enough enough?
That felt to me like that was just unnecessary risks
to try and you know, put the dagger in their hearts.

(08:21):
And I understand why people love all of that.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
It's just you.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Gotta be real, that's fine, it costs you the game,
and right now, I'm not sure that you can afford
to just throw that game away for any team in
the NFC exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
And you threw a conference game away on a weekend
when you have all kinds of upsets. Right you saw
San Francisco go down, you saw Dallas get destroyed, you
saw Detroit lowse at home. Like that was a big
that's a big game, especially for a team that doesn't

(08:54):
look very good, that's got some major issues defensively and
a key offensive cogged down in aj Brown. So now
all of a sudden, you look, you're one and one,
and you got to go play at New Orleans and
then at Tampa and back to back weeks.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Dad and that's that's just all part of what has
to be. You know, we mentioned we started this off
by saying identity, and I understand that there are some
franchises that aggressiveness is just going to be the identity,
and that that's what a coach chooses. The funny thing
to me is we sit there and we praise Dan
Campbell's aggressiveness all the time until it cost him a game,

(09:34):
and then we say, well, what is he doing?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, we all said you should have kicked a field
ball last year.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
We all said it through the course of the regular season.
He was like, no, I love the fact that Dan
Campbell's out here, you know. And you can also look
at the entire Chargers coaching staff was changed because of aggressiveness.
Like you just what you mentioned with harball is so
simple and so true, and we forget this element of it,
like there is a part of football that's about getting
points on drives. I look at any drive that ends

(10:01):
with points was a successful drive to me. And once
you start chasing points, you gotta chase points the rest
of the game. And how often have we seen that
where it's like, man, this game will be a lot
different right now if they're taking the field goal in
the first half, So this whole like I'm gonna go
for the jugular mindset, Like that works for some boxers,
to live and die by the knockout punch. It works,
But there are going to be times where you're going

(10:23):
to have to box. You're gonna have to actually be
able to hit and counter hit and take punches. And like,
I just I don't know that the knockout mentality is
really something that you can bank on sustainably over the
course of a seventeen game season, over the course of
eighteen weeks.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
No, I know. I mean, you know, it's ridiculous at
times when when we lose the identity of football, like
sometimes like I I and again, if it's the Chiefs
and you're playing Kansas City and you're the underdog and
you're on the road, and or you know, you're playing

(10:58):
a team and it's the Raiders are playing I don't know,
somebody that Detroit and you know what's gonna be. You
gotta score, man, you gotta get seven's by all means,
go for it fourth and four in the first quarter.
I get it. Like, you know, you want to try
to make a statement, you're you're an underdog, you know
it's gonna taking a lot more points. Field goals aren't

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gonna win the game by all means. I I you know,
fourth and four, you know you take the shot. But
if you're a favorite and you're at home and you're
in a game where it's gonna be a run game
and two running backs and clocks gonna be moving, like like,
why that's where hardball kicks the field goal and that's

(11:42):
where and that's where some of these young old sees
and there's some great young minds, but they're also this
like it's choice stick football, right, and it's not like
it's not Madden. As much as we want to have
video games imitate life, it's still life.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
The funny thing is, as you say that, what it
really makes me think through all of this is if
we simply were taking analytics and making analytics the only
thing the factor in, then why have a head coach
at all? Just have a check GPT on the sidelines. Dude, Ah,
you're so right, Just have Ai coached the game.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, because it's hysterical because it's like you got like
Nick Sirianni's the coach and he is the CEO, coach.
This is what's going on my talent. It's a lot
of drama because Syriany, of course got stripped of well
he never called the plays last year, but he was
really involved in the offense. Now to Kelvin Moore production

(12:45):
and he's kind of on the outs and he is
more the CEO coach who is overseeing things Vic Fangiosis
the defense. He oversees the game and they all include
those decisions, but except he's not really making those decisions
because the Eagles are one of these teams that are

(13:05):
all analytics and and they're heavy handed with analytics, and
so they jump in and you know, it's like this
whole thing. I mean, it's bizarre because people are like,
I actually feel sorry for him because people were ripping
them for kicking the field goal. I don't know where
you where you're where you uh, how you line up here?

(13:29):
So in the case of they go for it, forget
about I think it was stupid. You run the ball,
you try to get two yards, you to push it
and go for the first down or whatever. But it's
now it's fourth and three and a half, right, he
kicks the field goal to go for to get put

(13:50):
him up six, which I agree with, but there were
a lot of the analytics people said, no, you go
for the first down there and try because three doesn't
mean anything. I'm thinking, what plan? Well, it doesn't right.
What planet is it where you you don't let them
have to score a touchdown a tie with a field goal.

(14:11):
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I mean I sat there and watched a Thursday night
football broadcast where they spent an extended amount of time
talking about rule changes that should be made because of
the accuracy of kickers from beyond fifty yards. We cannot
have our cake and eat it too, folks, Like there's
some level of if we're gonna sit here and acknowledge
that this year a historic level of post fifty yard
field goals are being hit, we need to acknowledge that

(14:33):
many teams, all they have to do is get to
about the forty yard line, the plus forty yard line,
and they're going to be in field goal range. So
how are you gonna tell me that there isn't a
difference between a three point and six point Like, the
only way you get beat when you have a six
point lead is if you give up a touchdown. Your
defense can just bend and bend and break. You just
not break. You just can't give up the touchdown. Like

(14:54):
that's a substantial difference. That to me, that's confirmation bias,
where somebody is using the outcome to decide what should
have been done with the play itself, and you can't
do that. Like there is a level of give your team,
give the fifty three, give the the one hundred and
fifty people in that building that worked their ass off
all week the best chance to win, and that actually
comes from putting points on the board. I this conversation

(15:16):
of not taking a field goal and stretching it to
you can only get beat one way, to me, makes
absolutely zero sense.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
No, thank you, I'm not crazy. Thank you. No, I
appreciate that we got a ton to talk about. I'm
still looking my Williams after last night and the line
I coming back and a killer taking out the Huskers,

(15:45):
and on the Brands had a chance miss the field
goal at the end, and I'm a Dylan Rayola. I
love this kid. He's the freshman quarterback for Nebraska. I
love him.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Man.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
And then they he just got caught, man, they got
caught behind the sticks in overtime and the aligne I
win in Lincoln. It was a big night Friday night football.
It was that Lincoln krowd, you know, mother sellout like
they do. It was loud, they were into it. And
the align I man, give him credit.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Big win, stunning win. I mean I have gone on
all of my Yahoo shows repeatedly talking about why I
thought a seven and no Nebraska team was going to
be taken on Ohio State and why I think Nebraska
has a real shot at the College Football Playoff because
of the way the schedule lays out. I did not
see this one coming. I didn't and kind of stunning

(16:39):
to me. And you know, good on Illinois for getting
a big win. Not a lot of people have been
paying attention to him. Ryola, by the way, still played
really well in that game. You're right. It's just it's
it's so funny that the margins are so thin. And
I was talking to a Big twelve coach about this
last week who said, you know, the thing that we
all understand is the margins were incredibly thin, and you

(17:00):
got that sense watching Illinois Nebraska take each other on.
I think I walked away from that saying, man, maybe
I've slept a little bit on Illinois this year. Maybe
I haven't given them the respect they deserve. Certainly this
is the sort of game that Nebraska sort of learns from.
The nice thing is that with the College Football Playoff
being the way it is, they still had plenty of
real estate ahead of them to try and get there.

(17:20):
But man, no, this was a This was a to me,
it was a wild loss. It was kind of a
stunning moment for a Nebraska team that really had everything
in front of him.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, it's also a reminder that you know, it's it's
second year coach, right, Like, you know, I know Matt
very well, and I talked to him all the time,
and we were talking, you know, this week, and you know,
he actually was a little not you know, you love,

(17:49):
you welcome the expectations, but it makes you a little
nervous when you know that. You know, he's in year
two of the rebuild, right so you know you so
it'll only be able to run on that front. Yeah,
Like at certain times, like the hope is, you know,

(18:09):
three years, I think he was ready to really make
that leap next year, right, like he'll have it'll be
his third year. Two full years of recruiting is when
you start to kind of see it and you get
to kind of really have your stamp on it, even
though you have the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, and I think on the other side, Brett Bielima
quietly is just sort of got Illinois. He's got him turning.
They get a second ranked win early in the season.
I meant, quarterback play, yeah, really good efficient quarterback play too.
Four touchdown passes in that game. I think it was
like it just it was one of two stunning I think,

(18:50):
you know, I was pretty surprised the way Stanford came
back and you know, kicked a field goal to beat
Syracuse in a game that they got a just a
monstrously lucky pass down the side line as that game
was coming to an end. So, you know, good for them.
Better to be lucky than good. If, just if that's
the tone for the weekend. Man, we are in for
one this weekend because I'm telling you, like I'm watching

(19:10):
Friday night football, thinking Friday night football is usually supposed
to suck. But I do think it's a kind of
a beautiful thing that a game like Nebraska Illinois on
a Friday night. I think in a couple of weeks
we have Michigan's take.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Fox like I love it.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, I'm in I love it, dude. We love it
sitting out in the bar on Friday night, you know,
and like football that actually counts on all the TVs.
I'm in for that.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, me too, brother. All rightlet's take quick too. We'll
come back lots to get to all right with the
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Speaker 2 (20:56):
Ah, Welcome back Fellas Jason fits Anthony Gargan hanging out
on this Fox Football Saturday, the twenty first of September?
Is it? Man? First day of fall is on tomorrow
and it's it's on. My only fear is I want

(21:18):
to slow it down, starting to rev up a little
too fast. Fit See, we're already starting to motor through September.
It's like no, no, no, no, no, slow down. Let's
enjoy each of these days.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
You know what I'm going to be doing tomorrow football,
So I am going to be pulling some of the
animatronics out to start prepping it. Wow for some Halloween. Yeah,
like it's it's and but I'm with you there.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Tell the audience to be favor You gotta tell the
audience what you do if they haven't heard. I think
I got to take a drive off this year with
the kids.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Oh yeah. So you know, for the place in Nashville
for years still has a different movie in the front
lawn all over the place, and so I think last
year there were thirty something Halloween movies represented, and so
I've been building the collection in Connecticut to to compete
with that. Although you know it's hard. That's a lot
of movies. But the animatronics go out, they go everywhere,

(22:16):
and then I'll start putting up like the plastic all
over the house because I like to create false walls
inside so like even as people come through the house,
it's like kind of you're living in a haunted house.
I've got stuff that like, I've got you know, bodies
that mount on walls and all like everything you can imagine.
I've added a few new animatronics already this year. So
feeling good, feeling froggy. It's a gonna have a big

(22:37):
Old Halloween party. I will this. This is like an annual,
the Big Old Halloween Party. I'm gonna have the first one.
First time. I have a big one in Connecticut, and
it's gonna be on a Friday night, So the next
morning I'm gonna be on air with you still raging
from the party.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Is the goal?

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Like, my goal is for people to still be partying
when we start the show. That's you know, I'm sober
right now. What the goal is for them to still
be for them to to be partying. But yes, it's
it's a it's gonna be uh, it's gonna be fun.
Like it's funny. I had some guys working in the
Connecticut house to fix some things, and I forgot to
tell them that there's a storage area in the basement
that has a bunch of like life sized animatronics in it.

(23:14):
And one of the guys opened the door just like
literally went running out because he he I didn't tell him.
It wasn't I wasn't here. But the main contractor that
was working in the house was like, yeah, you're scared that,
you know what out of my guys because they opened
the door and all they saw was Michael Myers, like
and he was he still has the animatronic working because
he's oh way, so he just started like trying to

(23:35):
stab somebody. They ran out of the house. I'm like,
there we go. That that's what happens. So uh yeah,
it's time to Uh I'll start putting stuff out inside
by the windows so that it looks like the it
looks like I have serial killers in my house.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
That starts using Ah, dude, that's classic.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
I will send you pictures, my friend, I will send
you a picture.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Oh you have to Oh my god, that's awesome. That's
flat out awesome. It's funny. The contract reminds me of
a buddy Mind. He came when he came over from Italy.
He didn't realize that he was doing construction right like
and working on houses and doing interiors and stuff. And
he didn't realize that he was doing uh, he was

(24:17):
working at at this one job was at this funeral
parlor because in South Philly, like it's you know, they're
like these houses that are turned into this, you know,
they're turned into the funeral power. Anyway, he's walking into
the room and he sees someone on the chair and
he says good the morning, right, and then nothing, you know,

(24:39):
the person doesn't answer them. He says it again, you know,
the good in the morning, and then nothing, and because
he's walking in and out of the room, finally he says,
good morning, what's the matter with you? And he goes
to tap them on the shoulder, and the body just
slumps and falls to the ground.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Right, that's straight out of a movie. That's insane.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
And he completely freaks out. He's like, oh my god, like
that's cursing Italian, like, oh my god, run it out,
run it, for go God. And then he didn't realize
it was that there was a funeral power and it
was a body that they were getting ready to to
groom and they had it actually sit up. They had
it sitting up in a chair so they could do that.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Oh my god, that is you know, now suddenly I'm
sudden changed. The horror freaking me is changing my mind,
like maybe I don't want to be cremated, Maybe I
want to try and scare somebody on the death There
we go. You're talking me into it just to freak
me out. It's like put it in my will. It's
I can leave leave my body slumped in the in
the in the funeral home for a couple of days,
just just to freak people out. That would be the

(25:45):
way to go.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Oh yeah, oh that's classic. That's absolutely classic.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
We got lots to get to. I gotta I gotta
get to We gotta go all over all the football,
the NFL, college, a lot of stuff, but I gotta
hit you with shoh Otani gave us what I think,
he's the greatest game of my lifetime in any sport.
And we've seen you know, I sold Jordan's score or

(26:13):
whatever it was at the garden. It was some ridiculous thing.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
We know we've watched Kobe's you know, put a ton
of points up and all this stuff. Great quarterback play
and running backs and receivers of all kinds of you know,
pin ball numbers. Never have I seen ten for ten,
three home runs, six for six, three home runs, ten RBI,

(26:41):
four runs, score, two stolen bases, and a dude, he
files it up last night with another home run and
another stolen base for the Dodgers. It's unbelievable. With this
it's he's he's ridiculous. He's the greatest athlete that I
think I've seen in my lifetime. Oh yeah, I mean

(27:04):
dominates the sport.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
The funniest thing to me is you and I have
talked so much about, like how do you get somebody
to transcend the number of my friends just casually that
are coming in and like, here's the question that people
are asking. Are we allowed to say he's the greatest
we've ever seen? Because that's what it feels like, and
nobody wants to be hyperbole with it or hyperbolic with that.
I should say, but how are we're supposed to say that?
I don't know, a hyperbolics the chamber, whatever. But there

(27:29):
is this piece of me that what you're saying is right, like,
this is the single greatest thing I've ever seen in
baseball and maybe the greatest thing I've ever seen in sports.
I mean, just when you start talking about it's so
rare to get a moment in baseball that makes everybody say, hey,
if you're not watching this, turn it on right now.

(27:51):
And this a few times where social media was winning
because I wasn't paying attention at the beginning of the
game and all of a sudden, everybody's like, no, you
got to tune this, tune in, tune in, tune in. Yeah,
And it felt like the time I've told you about before.
It felt like when we were watching Sosa versus McGuire
and the home run chase, and all of a sudden,
ESPN was cutting into every single moment when they were
at bat. It was must see TV to watch that

(28:12):
game and then to see that that's the way that
he got the fifty, like it just man, it just
hit different. And this is for you. We say what
we want about where show he's playing, and you know,
the angels and all of these different things, but to me,
nobody's paying the same level of attention if he's not
where he is. It just I thought it was a
perfect moment for baseball. It was a perfect moment for

(28:33):
the player. It was a perfect moment for sports. Like
it felt like a Disney movie, not an actual night.
And that that's incredible.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Oh my god. Yeah. I And I gotta tell you,
I I'm kind of over the moon with it because
I you know, I'm a baseball fan and like this
stuff that I had never seen. He's He's ridiculous. I
had a friend of mine who was who was a
huge baseball fan, and he's become casual nowadays and he's like,

(29:02):
wait o, Tani has that kind of speed. I'm like, yeah,
you know, he's got ridiculous speed, ridiculous power. And oh,
by the way, he's a ridiculous picture. Like lost in
this year is he's recovered from Tommy Child Like last year,

(29:24):
he's gonna be throwing every five days. I mean, come on, like,
we've never seen anything like this, And sometimes I feel
like we're not. We're not. We don't talk about it enough.
And I just had to bring this up, man.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
We don't talk about it enough, because what do we
all like? This is my whole argument with the Lebron conversation.
There's a lot of people right now that continually think
it's just sexy to you know, doo doo all over
Lebron's legacy. It just happens all the time, and I
laugh at it. I genuinely laugh at it, because we
all know what's gonna happen in forty years. The same
people today that are sitting here saying, oh, Lebron isn't there,

(30:00):
Lebron isn't that are gonna be the people that are
sitting and it's gonna be the grandpa sitting in the
living room saying, oh, don't talk to me about that.
I saw Lebron play. Yeah, right, Like, that's that's what's
going to happen to all of the Lebron haters right now.
Eventually they'll become Lebron stands late in life. They're like, no,
these kids today don't know. We are literally watching that,
like we are watching the one that's like no, no, no, no, no,

(30:21):
no no, don't talk to me about that guy I
saw show. Hey, Like, it's there is such a power
to what's happening right now that will be generational. That's
just that's so rare. It's it's truly iconic. And I
don't think you can celebrate or appreciate it enough because
I don't know that I'll ever see this again in
my lifetime. And that when you when you think about
it that way, it just to me, it just hits

(30:44):
incredibly different.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
I do it spot On man spot On. It's it's
just so uh just it it's crazy to me, like like,
and he follows it up with a game last night
where he's three for four hits another Homebron awful lefty
by the way, and and steals a lot of base
Like what like, I mean that that's crazy. Now he's

(31:07):
in the uh, you know, fifty one fifty one club, Like,
come on, man, that's absurd. That stuff's craze, insane. I
just I had to I have to discuss at it,
and you're spot on. That's exactly what people are gonna
do with Lebron. It's like, you know, I'd always like
to cherish greatness when it's in front of it. You

(31:28):
got to cherish it, man, you gotta you have to
nurture it.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
I mean this objectively. I would probably make more money
in my life if I didn't feel this way. But
my whole thing is like, who really cares if Lebron's
better than Michael? I mean, through all of it, it's
not going to change anything. It's the grown up equivalent
of my dad can beat up your dad. Nobody's ever
gonna be able to solve one side of this the other.
It's only opinion. You can't convince anyone of anything in it.

(31:56):
And like, but there's also this point of like, instead
of sitting here and filling just hours and hours and
hours of daily content on shows yelling about that stupidity.
Why don't we have like smart conversations, like why don't
we guys like Legs tell us what's great about Lebron
instead of sitting here and trying to figure out whether
Lebron could play in the nineties or nineties Michael could
play today? Like who cares? Who cares?

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I'd same way I could have. I stupidly did not
sell out to uh, you know, ridiculous conversations, hot takes
and fake fake takes and the whole thing. I hear you.
I hate that stuff. I always love to like cherish
sport and greatness and discussing how does it happen? And like,

(32:41):
you know, the rarity. It's like a rare gem and
and in reality nobody cares about the adjectives.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, god, that is that is so well said. And
it's just it's funny because I was doing an interview
with a site to promo some of the Yahoo shows
that I'm doing, and the host asked me about, you know,
twenty four hour news cycle and some of the yelling
debate shows and if they've become the problem with society.
And the funny thing is I said to him was like, no,

(33:10):
I don't think that they're the problem. I think it's
easy to blame them instead of looking at the real problem,
which is that's what people want, you know, and like
through all of it, we can just be honest for
a second. The reason that you know, stephen A and
Shaysha are you know, making the money they make is
because at the end of the day, they can have
that conversation about Michael versus Lebron and it's going to

(33:32):
get ten times the views that a smart basketball video will.
And that's not stephen A's fault, that's the viewer's fault.
But everybody wants to blame, you know, everybody wants to blame,
you know, the content, when it's really the consumption of
the content that's problem. If we really didn't want that
people stop consuming it, then it wouldn't be made anymore.
But how do you get people to stop consuming it?
So that's a meta thought for this early in the

(33:53):
morning on a Saturday. It's just you know, stands out to.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Me, h spot on, my brother spot on on. We're
to think quick time out will come back. I have
a I have a question for you on the other side,
I need an update. All right, I need the update,
the Fitzi Update. You'll hear it coming up next. And
then we're gonna start going through the card, taking a

(34:15):
look at all the games today and tomorrow, the landscape.
Two weeks in the in the NFL, it's like an
eternity rash. Statements are being made everywhere. We'll dive into
each and everyone coming up, fellas right here on Fox
Sports Radio. All right, fellas, back from the ty rak
dot com studios, Jason Fitz, I'm Anthony Gargano, Fitz and Couz. Hey,

(34:41):
i gotta get an update, man, because for those people
don't know, Fitzi's killing it all right. He's good in
the uh, He's going for the transformation.

Speaker 7 (34:52):
So spit this journey update.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Oh god, that feels good. That felt good about Can
we hit that one more time? Can we just hit
that one more time?

Speaker 7 (35:04):
Spit this journey update?

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Oh man, you know what if I didn't.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Right, I'm telling you it's shaking the earth.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
I didn't need any more juice in my veins to
get ready for the gym after this workout today, But
now I got it, Like I'm gonna have to have
the guys that I'm gonna have to breathe play that
force right before the end of the show, just because
that's gonna be the thing that amps me straight over
to the gym. Look, I'm not I'm not saying things
are good. I'm just saying things are good. Like body
fat's reduced a little bit more. I am down at

(35:37):
this point, a whopping thirty eight pounds. So I am
thirty eight pounds down. By the way, I was already
a scrawny guy, but I'm thirty eight pounds down. But
my trainer did tell me this. All right, I'm probably
at the lowest weight that I'm gonna be at now,
Like I've cut everything I'm gonna cut. Now we start
the process of like increasing my overall mass. Right, So
like now I'm in this. I mean I'm lifting heavier,

(35:57):
like i'm lifting, I'm lifting bigger. So I'm not going
to brag or anything, but I'm gonna brag. The other day,
I was doing calves on like the you know, the
leg press machine. I got to four hundred pounds of
my calves. Like I'm telling you these things at dude,
these chicken legs or are putting it up. I'm at
this like this is nothing for somebody like you're you
and the boys like you guys are big, Like I'm

(36:18):
not somebody that's ever lifted weights until this journey. So
the fact that now I regularly bench press more than
I weigh, I'm like, that's that's significant to me, Like
that's my my upset is more than my way. So
I'm like, yeah, I'm getting there, like you know, like
my my goal is to get to where I can
two twenty five at a bunch like NFL guys do.
Like I'm not there yet, but I will say this,

(36:39):
like I actually I stumbled until somebody hadn't seen in
a minute yesterday and he just stopped. I haven't seen
him in probably ten years. They looked at me, He's like, dude,
you look like a different human being. So it's it's
it's actually kind of crazy, like you know, And I'm
doing this, by the way, at the ripe age of
forty seven. For everybody that sits there and they can't
says they can't do it, Like I am genuinely in
the best shape of my life in forty seven, at

(37:00):
forty seven, and I've done all of it in twenty weeks.
So like you know, faster than if I had gone
And like we're being honest ay on radio for a second.
He because I actually went to a place and I
look to try and see if I could just get
lighto because I've always had a little belly, so I
was like, I just want my tiny belly sucked out.
And the doctor was like, yeah, we could probably do
this and that and that the recovery time would have
been six months, so in less time than it would

(37:21):
take to get you know, everything sucked out. I've actually
done it the right way, and like I don't have
abs yet, but man I I sort of have abs,
Like I sort of got like the cutout abs. It's
almost there. It's almost there. So you know, like all
I've had to do is eat diligently for twenty weeks
and work out. You know, I go to the gym
six days a week. So we're down thirty eight pounds.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Thirty eight pounds, dude, that's amazing. That's absolutely amazing. God
bless your Barty fit Chies Fitness.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Can we hear one more time? Do we hear one
more time?

Speaker 7 (37:51):
Fitzes Fit this journey update?

Speaker 8 (37:55):
Yes, I'm glad you like it.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, You're gonna have to sell that to me. So
I could just play it right when I get on
the tread bill, like right to start my sprints. At
the end, I'm just gonna be like.

Speaker 8 (38:05):
It's like it's like an intro song like for wrestling
when you're coming out, Like I feel like that would
be like you're coming out to the treadmill and then
you just play that and just gets you all pumped up.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
No, no, yeah, so that plays. That's like current wrestling,
you know, when I'm running in the ring to save
Anthony right like that that plays the something you know,
like something dramatic like NF plays and I run out
to n F after the Fit Fitness Fitsy's Fitness Journey update,
Like that's Anthony Gargano. What would your ring music be

(38:35):
if you were a professional wrestler? What would bring you out?

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I mean probably would go with Public Enemy.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Oh oh that's a good choice.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
That is a good choice. Yeah, yeah, call me out
like you know, public Anemy trying to be.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Actually I kind of love that being my my intro
music to the Oh what would your what would you
come to the ring music? Oh?

Speaker 8 (39:06):
My gosh, I used to like probably I don't know.
I feel like something probably bond Job. I think that
would probably be like some like something like that, like
let It Rock or something like probably just like a
random song maybe like something like eighties like rock. I
think that would be it.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
That's cool.

Speaker 8 (39:20):
We're backstree boys also probably, but maybe a little backstory.
Boys gotta go old school.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, that's cool. I love that.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
That's actually they are.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
I dude, some of these things I hear. Yeah, that's basic. Right,
we're old yeah, because you remember it when they were,
you know, back in the day. Oh my, uh, all right,
we got lots to get to. Uh, I would to go.
We got a full slate of football that we're going

(39:55):
to go through it all man, between college and the NFL.
Where the Fellas right here? Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
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Speaker 2 (40:06):
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(40:28):
should be all right, let's turn our attention to today
and the car that is before us lots to get to.
We got a full slate of college last night. We
already talked about it, UH Friday night football, and it
was it was a lot of fun. Then it was

(40:49):
Nebraska Illinois the aligne I come in with a major
victory on the road and Link in tough place to play,
linket Nebraska. Everybody's feeling it right, they're feeling a potential
playoff run. And you gotta give you a line night credit.
A terrific game last night. They went in overtime thirty one,

(41:11):
twenty four. Stanford goes to Syracuse in its first ACC
game FITSI and wins that one on the road twenty six,
twenty four, and then the thriller Washington State San Jose
State double overtime fifty four to fifty two. That was
last night's action.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah. I still think by the way that Stanford Syracuse game,
really incredible ending to it. And I think one of
the themes we saw last night was, man, you just
it's such a thin line between winning and losing, and
you know, the acclamation of Stanford straight over to go
into two Syracuse that's tough. That's a tough trip to make, right.

(41:58):
Nobody really cares about that, but I thought that made
an impact and a difference huge for them to get
that win. It's a really big deal to.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Me, especially when you know you're looking now at these
crazy conferences right like, you know, how about USC Michigan today?
Right here it is it's a big ten matchup at
USC in the big House. Orgy gets to start for Michigan.

(42:26):
So queebac chain QB change for Michigan that day. Listen.
They had to do it. I mean they were getting nothing.
I mean you had to make the change.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
I think the most surprising part is that over the
course of the first few games, when things didn't look good,
they weren't giving Orgy a lot of opportunities. Like I
think it's stunned me in the beginning that we haven't
seen a quarterback change midgame. Hey, this isn't working with
us in Jackson energy. Orgie comes in, and this to
me means Michigan's game plan is going to be all
about running the ball right now. And that means not

(42:59):
just running the ballsanding the ball off. They're going to
be finding interesting ways to utilize the athleticism of a
young kid that can run and throw right. So look,
I understand that there's a learning curve and a development
curve and all of these things that you're worried about,
but man, I want him in just to see how
he plays. I think this absolutely changes the game plan
for Michigan. I was a little surprised that this was
the game they put him in, considering I think they

(43:20):
have Minnesota next, which would have been a much easier
intro for him. But I think what they're telling you
is that they see it every day and they think
he's ready, and he better be ready because it's going
to be a big game.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yeah, and they had no choice. I mean, Warren two touchdowns,
six interceptions, forty eight or seventy two. I mean, it's
just not good, just not good enough.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Man.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
You get look at some point we saw in the
NFL with Bryce Young, like I can't play it, Like
you're unplayable right now. Just give me no chance to win.
And you know, at some point it's just not fair
to the rest to the football team if you give
me no chance.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, and you'll lose the rest of the football team quickly.
If you turn around and keep saying no, no, no, no,
best player gets in, We're gonna everybody's competing, and it's like, well,
not at the most important position in all the sports,
Like what are we doing here? So absolutely, it's just
I just want to remind Michigan fans loudly it's okay
to be in a bit of a rebuild. Like you

(44:23):
lost your head coach, you lost most of your productivity
from last year from this team. This is a different
Michigan team, and I think it's going to take more
just a minute to establish who he is and who
they are with him, you know. So there's a bigger
difference here too, because even as much as I've talked
about where I think there's a learning curve for Kaitlin
to bore over at Alabama, Nick Saban is still present

(44:45):
around Alabama, Like there's still a sense of like, hey,
this is a handoff. Hardball's not president around Michigan, He's
doing another job, right. So this was truly a thank
you so much appreciated tip of the cap. I love
you guys, you love me. We want to Naddy together.
I'm off to different things and like that's a you
just got to change your mindset around that. If you're
a Michigan fan, I just think that right now, it's

(45:07):
about can we see Orgy develop into somebody that can
be competitive for the next couple of years. If so,
the wins and losses don't matter as much as it
matters just to put your best foot forward.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting to see what Orgy
can be because remember, I mean, he only played a
little bit behind McCarthy, and there's some worry about, you know,
does he have the arm to play this position? You know,
the dramatic he's dramatically different than McCarthy. You know, just

(45:40):
he people worried about his ability just to throw the ball.
You remember last year he come in, he had a
couple underthrows, right that people are like, oh, oh, like
what's that about. They start stacking a box against them.
So it's gonna be interesting to see what he gives you,
right m.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, and like you got to figure that out, because
I it's important in modern college football to understand that
modern college football ain't that different than the modern NFL.
If you do not have a quarterback that can win
you big games, you are not going to win a Natty.
I don't think you can just sort of coast your
way through at the quarterback pos that you've got to

(46:21):
have somebody that can come in and make three or
four game saving plays and.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Not just run the ball. Like back in the day.
You get away with that, right, You get away with
a quarterback that was an option read option guy, and
you know a big part of the run game and
you know pass sparingly. You need a You need throwers
to win in college football, just like you need throwers
to win in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, and I think you need throwers, and you need
to either have a guy you're developing or a guy
that's already developed enough that you're coming right in and
saying we're winning right now. Like you can't have the
in between, you know, And there are rare moments like
you could make the argument, as we did on Yahoo
Sports this week, that Texas might have two number one
overall picks at the quarterback position. Quiches just played really

(47:05):
well and arch Is, I mean arch Is arts right, like,
so you know that's such a rarity. But you better
have a plan because that's what Texas has and that's
what you're competing against. You know, they the eyes of
Texas are on how much money those Nils have spent
to get the guys in they've got, But look, it
doesn't matter at this point. That's what you're competing against.
So you either got a guy, you're developing your guy,

(47:27):
or you are screwed in modern college football.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, yeah, what do you make of speaking of quarterbacks
and I just referenced them, but I mean, you couldn't
play Bryce Shack anymore.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, and this is unfortunate because I genuinely believe that
the Panthers have done everything they can to ruin the kid,
and there are problems. There are problems with Bryce's game.
I'm not saying he doesn't have ownership in this, but
this is not a JaMarcus Russell, like Bryce got in
the league and just didn't really care. This is how
many voices can you put in the kids here we
can in a week out. And I think it's a

(48:01):
fair point right now to look around and say, oh, also,
by the way, we've watched the reclamation of Sam Darnold
and the reclamation of Baker Mayfield. What are those guys
have in common? They were both quarterbacks for the Carolina
Panthers at one point Carolina let him out of the building.
They can't. They can't develop or reclamate anybody, and that's
a weird.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Spot to be in.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Man.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Like, I just I think Dave Canalys is doing the
only thing Dave Canallis can do. The knock on Brice
coming out at Alabama, the only thing that I heard
negative from people around Alabama was that he struggled with
pre snap recognition and communication with the offensive line, so
Blitz could get him. Sometimes formations can get to me,
like he just got a little confused. He was gonna
need work. I don't think they've given him that proper work.

(48:39):
That's absolutely haunting him right now. So they had to
take him out. But also the offensive line is played
for you.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
I mean that in his size, right, I mean yeah, yeah,
that's a I mean that's something you can't come back from.
Like if your pre stat recognition is not there and
you can't be able the same page protection of wives
calling out the protections, uh, and you're that size, well
then you're never going to get throwing on those You're

(49:06):
gonna be a disaster.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Now. Throwing windows huge part of that. And I do
think Carolina tried in the offseason by investing in veteran
offensive linemen to help with that. It just hasn't happened.
And now you put Andy Dalton and looked. I think
they were sort of damned if they do and damned
if they don't. I've watched the Raiders lose several games
to bad teams that made a quarterback switch. So I
understand that nothing is given in this league. But you

(49:28):
either were gonna put a quarterback in that struggles to
figure out, you know, where it's coming from against the
defense that sends it from everywhere, or you're putting in
an immobile quarterback that's a little older, that's seen a
lot of football. But now, boy, that offensive line better
hold up because if Max gets through, Andy Dalton ain't
gonna outrun him right like. So that that's the interesting part.
I think that the Panthers have what looks like a

(49:50):
bad matchup if they're if their offensive line doesn't have
the game of their lives.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
No, I think you're completely spot on. All right, let's
keep going on around the world of college now, So
here's your twenty big new kickoff Ohio State and Marshall.
So we'll get to see Ohio State. What's your early
impressions of Ohio State. Obviously in plenty body they wrecked

(50:17):
Akron fifty two to six, and then they wrecked Western
Michigan fifty six to nothing. Remember today, it's Marshall next
week at Michigan State, then it's a home Iowa, and
then finally Ohio State gets the test in Eugene on

(50:38):
October twelfth.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yeah, I think the hardest part is it because they
haven't played anybody. How do we know anything?

Speaker 3 (50:45):
You know?

Speaker 1 (50:45):
And like I would love to keep they look great,
they look great, They have athletes at every level. We
know that, and Will Howard should be a decent quarterback
for him. But like, man, do we know anything yet?
And I'm not trying to be to avoid the question
of the conversation, but you know, beating Akron in Western
Michigan by an average of fifty something to three essentially,

(51:06):
like what does that mean? It doesn't mean anything. Like
they're gonna they're gonna run all over Marshall and put
up a bunch of points and that means absolutely nothing.
Michigan State. I don't think Michigan State's particularly good, but
Michigan State at this point is at least once a
football games and you know, belongs in the conference. Like again,
I don't I don't put a lot of weight in
Michigan State. I just don't think they're tested until they

(51:28):
hit that run where it goes, you know, Oregon, Nebraska,
Penn State, and that's a pretty brutal run. But even
at that, they get a week off after Oregon before
they take on Nebraska. So like it's just their schedule
just lays out so pretty for them. I think Ohio
State's very good. I just don't think we've seen anything
to know if they can.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Be battle tested. I know it's funny in it. I
mean it's it's the truth. You go, all right, they
look nasty, but who are they? And I guess we
gotta wait for that game at Oregon. That'll tell us everything.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
I wish to college football. Gods, by the way, could
come in and set like a scheduling standard and I
don't care if that's you have to play, you know,
a conference opponent in the first two weeks, Like, give
me something that gives us some opportunity to see if
these teams are any good because right now what the
ap pole is doing and trying to figure out who's

(52:25):
better between Texas, Georgia, Ohio State, Alabama. You know, do
we have a real sense of any of that, because
the strength to schedule for all of them is so
wildly different. Who the hell knows, you know, And I
don't think that's necessarily great for the game. Like, through
all of this, I'm not asking Ohio State to schedule
tougher out of conference. I think less and less teams

(52:46):
are gonna do that because your conferences are getting bigger
and those schedules are gonna get tougher. So I'm not
sitting here saying, well, the only answer is for Alabama
to schedule a tough Big ten team early on, Like,
I just don't think that's realistic. But there has to
be some way to shift this schedule around. It doesn't
give me Akron, Western, Michigan and Marshall and back to
back to back weeks.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, I agree, I think you have to. Probably the
best early game is a very interesting one Oklahoma State
and Utah, so cam Rising against the Cowboys. This is
a this could be really good game. Utah has won

(53:26):
at Utah State, they beat Baylor and Southern Utah and
in Okie State they've beat They were all over Tulsa.
Last week they beat Arkansas and over time and then
they beat South Dakota State. So that's your that's your
probably your your the afternoon game, it's four o'clock Eastern,
one Pacific. Utah and Oklahoma State twelve against fourteen.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Yeah, and look, Cam Rising got hurt earlier and he's
going to be available as what everybody feels like. But
Utah has been a little Lincoln Sate and the Big
twelve is just sitting here screaming, somebody take over, somebody
win this thing up. You know, So in Oklahoma States
had a little bit of a struggle running the football so.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Far this year.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
We know the identity of Utah is supposed to be
particularly physical. And this game is huge for the playoffs,
right because you start thinking about what we expect from
the Big twelve, there are so many teams that are
going to absolutely just rise in the Big ten and
in the SEC. The Big twelve has really got to
make statements, especially if they want any shot in a wildcard.

(54:31):
Like I think that's where people keep talking about twelve
playoff spots and I want to correct that mindset out
of the gates, because what that really is is seven
playoff spots because the Power four and the Group of five,
you know, or the power Yeah, the powerful and the
group of five are gonna take five of those spots.
So there's only seven remaining spots. And then you start

(54:52):
looking around and you're like, okay, let's quick math here, Like,
if Ohio State wins a big ten, for example, well
you still got organ and sitting around that looks like
a you know, a playoff caliber team. Penn State sitting
around that looks like a playoff caliber team. That list
of USC could end up looking like a playoff caliber team.
In the SEC, you're gonna have Tennessee and Alabama, presuming

(55:12):
Georgia wins, you know in Texas. You just start doing
the math and you're like, man, this gets really tough.
So I think this game is pretty significant for everybody.
Oklahoma's got to run the ball better. Their offensive line
has really got to play well. Obviously, this is strength
on strength Oklahoma State's offensive line versus Utah's defensive line. Like,
I think this is just a slobber knocker of a

(55:33):
football game.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
I cannot wait, Ah with you, completely with you. I
think it's a terrific one. And then the best game
of the night for the best game of the days
at night and the Valves. Man, what a darling the
early season darling. The Volves a six and a half
point favorite in Norman tonight. I can't wait for that one.

(55:59):
That's great on the Whites. Saturday Night Football, Tennessee, Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Yeah, and and look my preseason I was asked for
Yahoo to give a preseason playoff team that's a little
off the radar, and my pick was Tennessee. I'm not
sure how off the radar they were nationally, but I
just I think they're a playoff team, and the more
we watch them, I think they're a national championship contender.
Like we know what Josh Hippel, the head coach, that

(56:27):
Tennessee can do to simplify an offense to help a
quarter with. So Nico, IAmA Liavo. Yeah, I mean, Nico
is what we're gonna call him. Nico's good. He's gonna
have to face a lot here. He's gonna have to
be better in this game because he's had some bad
early throws in games. While he settles down, Hypel's gonna
have to make sure that that happens for Nico. I

(56:47):
think he will, But the biggest story of Tennessee is
not the offensive side of the ball. Like the difference
between this version of Tennessee and what we saw a
few years ago with Hendon Hooker is a few years
ago Hypel had to make sure that Hooker and Hiatt
were just points points points points points. This version of
Tennessee plays defense with a lot of speed and explosiveness,
Like they swarm as quickly on the defensive side of

(57:10):
the ball as they do on the offensive side of
the ball. Like I think Tennessee is playing some of
the best team defense we're seeing in the country right now.
I think they're absolutely going to just destroy Oklahoma. This
is a wild did you win? You win?

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Dude? I feel the same way I look at him, going, man,
I love Tennessee tonight.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
I do.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
I you know, I think they're begging you to try
to take Oklahoma at home, and I think the matchup
is all Tennessee, all foals.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Yeah, and this becomes the awakening moment for Tennessee nationally.
As much as you mentioned there, Darling, I think people
are still a little bit reserved to go all in
on them. But if you look at this, you know
they've got this Oklahoma game, which will be a big,
big moment for him. They still have on this schedule
Alabama and Georgia. Right now, I think they're playing better

(57:58):
football on both sides of the ball. Can like, if
we're talking about complimentary football. I think right now Tennessee's
playing better football than Georgia, and Georgia's offense is out
of sync. So I'm not willing to sit here and
just hand the SEC or the SEC East over to
Georgia until we see Georgia get better and play the
way that they should play, and we need to see
a bit of a drop off from Tennessee. I think
Tennessee has a real shot at winning the SEC East.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I agree. All Right, fella's
gonna take quick t o we'll come back. We'll take
some of the look at other games that we like,
and in a lot of NFL stuff as well. Fellas
Jason Fitz Anthony Gargano. Right here, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
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Speaker 2 (58:49):
All Right, fella is Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargano hanging out. Hey,
let me ask you a quick question about just about
public decorum. All right, are you obligated to acknowledge someone
in the elevator because I see a lot of like

(59:12):
a non acknowledgment of people in the elevator and it's
starting to bug the elevator attquate.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
I mean, I feel like I always just naturally like hey,
Like I'm a friendly guy, so I feel like I
just naturally kind of go to that.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Go to that spot right, Like do you like, like,
I don't know why it bugs me that you feel
like you need to look at your phone the whole
time without even put your head up to give me
a nod or to you know, like if you're pressing
the button, Like if you're in first, don't you go

(59:48):
hey before you're going.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
To always wad right where your head is like my
immediate hip, we're ahead now.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
I don't know generation thing, but I don't I don't
get it. I'm with a lot of a lot of
younger people in the elevator where I work, and nobody
does the hey with floor or hey, the nod or whatever.
It's just head burning phone and almost like does don't

(01:00:18):
even want to put your head up? Like does it
like you don't want to ignow with someone?

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Yeah, see now I'm all in, Like if I walk
in the elevator, I'd rather ask you to hit the
floor than reach in front of you because that's kind
of where now I gotta squeeze my way.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Over to hit right, Like I don't want to go
like in vager space.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Yeah, like I'm trying. I'm trying to be polite by
not to not got getting up in the grill like
I I'm with you on that one hundred percent. And
then also like I don't know, we're in the elevator
for a couple of minutes. It's or for a minute,
it's pretty easy just be like, you know, hey, how's
it going, Like have a good day. I'm I'm this
person that's everybody leaves to them always to have a
nice day to everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
See you and I are so much alike, dude, like
we're like we do I do the same thing, and
sometimes it bugs me where like I'll make a point
to speak because it's like, yo, get your head out
of your phone for two seconds. I just hett be
a human being.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Now the worst is when somebody is on the phone
in the elevator, Like that's that's a major violation. Like
if you think that you're gonna be able to keep
your shirt, Like I am the type that if you're
on the phone in the elevator, I will allow talk.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
To my friends.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Like that's just gonna happen. Like if you if you're
sitting there on the phone, I'm gonna look at you,
even though you're right next to me and be like,
so what do you think of the egles? Like I'm
just trying to be loud enough to disrupt your phone call.
I'm gonna be honest about that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Yeah, I respect that. Yeah because I now because nobody
goes back to the point where nobody needs to hear
your conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
That's like the weird thing too, Like why why are
people on speakerphone all over the place now? Like you
can buy headphones for your for your iPhone for like
five bucks off, Like go five below, get a headphones
five bucks, plug them in, Like why are you on
speakerphone when you're walking around? I don't don't. I don't
need to hear your mem I just don't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
I don't like your grandma that much, I don't want
to hear a conversation about her, Like I don't want
to hear you talk your kids.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Right, it's paid enough for your You hear the one
side of the conversation. Now you got to hear both
sides of the conversation, and it's like why.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Why and and then you've got like, on top of that,
the person's obviously barely paying attention to whatever they're doing
because they've got their phone in front of them and
they're facetiming while it's happened, Like it feels like this
is always a FaceTime thing. And I'm like, you're you're
walking through the mall. You don't need to FaceTime while
you're walking through the mall, Like it's just just pull
your head out of your phone and go ahead and
walk around and if you need, if you need some

(01:02:40):
advice on what to buy, then pull off to the
side and FaceTime somebody look at it with your headphones in,
and then move about the day, like I don't want
to have to figure out if I'm navigating around.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
You, dude, it's so funny. You were You were exactly
say what I know why it bugs me, but every
morning that it also.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Bugs me, Like if I if I'm on a trainer,
a planer, I'm going anywhere and there's a group that's
just loud and obnoxious, that's fine if you want to
be loud and obnoxious. If you pull out your phone
because you want to post on social media how loud
and obnoxious you are chanting or you know, screaming on
your way to Vegas or on your way to Nashville
or whatever party city you're going into. And now I'm
in your video. I don't like that, Like, I just

(01:03:20):
I don't like that. Yeah, Like I'm not I'm not
into into this, Like I don't want to be part
of your jets chant Like that's not something I want.
Like I just want to know, and like if you're
if you're je Jet Jet, it's the worst. It is

(01:03:41):
the worst. Like, and I'll be honest, you know, this
will surprise a lot of people. As much as I
have made lifelong diehard Raders fan, as you well know,
and it as much as it is a fabric of
my being, I am one of the least likely people
you will ever meet in your life to just see
another fan and scream red from across the room. I'm
not gonna do that because it's really just disruptive to

(01:04:02):
everybody else in the universe, and it makes me uncomfortable
as hell. If I'm walking through because I'm always wearing
a raid or something. If I'm walking, you know, down
the street, or I'm walking through an airport, or I'm
walking somewhere, someone sees it and they just start doing
like no, that's that's no. We're not gonna do this
right now, Like you can fistbump me, but we don't
need to do like the whole yell raiders across the room.

(01:04:22):
If you see somebody in the Jets hat, you do
not need to remind the world that you know how
to spell the word jets congratulations.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Well it's funny. You know, we have a pretty subdued greeting,
go birds, like go birds, Go birds.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
I mean I respect that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Yeah, Like now we also have the chant e A
L E A L E. Yeah freaking misspelled it e
H L E s and you know, but the but
the greeting is not the chant like the jet fan
is the chant. Our greeting is go birds. I like
like like that, yeah exactly, And you're not chat like

(01:05:04):
you can't the the the greedy can't be a chat.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
You're right. I've got a friend that went to Michigan State,
and you know, I learned through her that every time
you know somebody from went to Michigan State. If you
walking by and you see somebody else, it's like, go
green and they say go white back, and like that's
super easy, go green, go white, and you just have
that tiny conversation and like as you can be walking
through the middle of the airport in Detroit and just
say go green, go white, Like all right, that's that's simple.

(01:05:33):
That's fine. If you are across the hall and you
just start the j e t like now I want
your team to lose, Like now, I just I want
your team to lose. I want to hear from me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
No, I dude, I think you're I think you're spot
on there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Give me a simple roll tide like that's fine. You
want you want to roll tide when you're roll tied,
that's fine. If you start barking like a dog in
the airport, no, and then you should get a shot
color and I should get the shock your watch park
like a dog. I get to shot collar. You gotta
that's that's fair too. Like you gotta say roll tied

(01:06:09):
like you're you know, not a jerk too. It's just like,
just give me a roll time. Like that's easy. Now
we got Like, like I said, if I'm because I'm
usually in black pants and a Raiders shirt and a
Raiders hoodie this time of the year and sometimes a
Raiders hat. Right, so I understand that I'm making my
fandom abundantly clear. All right, as we walked by, like
fist mompo. Raiders gonna be good game this weekend, big win.

(01:06:31):
All right, there we go. We had a connection. I
don't need you to scream. I don't need that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Setting up all the rules here, I'm gonna get so
much hat.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Well, no, no, listen, this is part of violations. Yeah,
I've been doing it for a long time. Violations. I
I do a lot of the rules. That's a big
part of the stick.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
There are rules.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Wise, you got anarchy. You need some modicums of rules
to live by.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
And look, I'm just gonna be honest. If you don't
have a friend in your life that will look at
you and be like whoa man you have? Let yourself go?
Then you need to find that friend. You need a
friend that will be honest. Like when you know, when
a group of girls comes out and one of them
just looks awful, my first thought is like her friend's
let her down. She didn't let herself down, like her

(01:07:26):
friend's let her down. If I'm walking around and I've
got something hanging out of my nose and nobody tells me,
my friends let me down, Like you've got to have
somebody in your friend group that will look at you
and be like, hey man, rest thank and it's like, okay,
all right, thank you. I appreciate that. I will go
take care of that right now. Like you've got to
have that friend. I feel like we're being that friend
for people that just need to hear the hard way, Like, hey,

(01:07:48):
you're fifty three years old. You don't need to yell
jets across the plane because you're headed to a game.
Like he's just you know, you're thirty eight years old
and you're screaming raiders across the hall, Like just just
calm it down, buddy, Like, just just calm it down.
Where the gear go to the game, celebrate all the like,

(01:08:09):
chant it at allegiance. That's fine. But if we're walking
through the street to Denmark, and that's the moment you
with your family decide you want to scream Raiders across
the hall. Come on, man, like I do better, be better.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Well, let me ask you a question. If you are,
say you're in Deadmark and you spy another Eagle fan
or another Raider fan, can't you like and it's an outdoor, crowded,
outdoor market, and you know, like overcome with like, oh

(01:08:42):
my god, here's one of my own. Can you be
a little effusive in that scenario?

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
So this has happened to me a lot in life
because I've been all over the world. You travel in
the world, but wearing Raiders stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
So you're going to another like another like the where
they are playing and an away game. This is you know,
you're oh my god, there's another Raider fan and I'm
in Bangkock and and this has happened to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Me repeatedly in my life, walking through airports or different countries.
And I think the right way to handle it is,
uh like, for me, if I can't get to them,
if I if like I can get to them, I'm
gonna throw my hand way up in the air for
an awkward high five. I mean like let's go, and
that's it, Like it's two guys, quick interaction.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Doesn't disrupt anybody else with the up up nod like
the quick, the chin up in the air like the
quick like hey, what's up brother? Like that that moment,
liked the acknowledgment. Sure if if we cannot see each other,
then no, I'm just gonna like I'm gonna do the
up nod and like a smile. I mean like, yeah,
we got this. I might say from the distance like
let's go. It may like that there's like go raiders,

(01:09:51):
like that's it. I'm not going to yell in this
big disruptive way for everybody else that's at the you know,
street market in Germany. It's just not you know, like
I'm not gonna ruin somebody else. I'm not gonna do it.
I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna ruin somebody
else's October Fest. I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Like.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
It's just it's a weird phenomenon to me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Like I will tell part I too love football fans, right, yeah,
like I do. I love them. I love the boisterous
like being. I love how they're boisterous I do. I
have to admit I love that. I appreciate them, and

(01:10:34):
I often find the football fan meets the non sports
fan is a fascinating just from a sociological standpoint, it's
fascinating to watch because invariably the non sports fan looks
down on the football fan as a haughty from like

(01:10:58):
being hawny. Would you agree? I agree?

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Yeah, And I think the phenomenon here because certainly I've
toured with and know many people in entertainment that just
aren't football fans, are sports fans. And the number of
times you hear like I just don't get it, and
it's like, okay, Like there's a difference between I don't
get it and I'm going to I'm going to belittle it.
And that's the line like, look, I don't get opera

(01:11:23):
and I was a class coal musician for most of
my childhood. I don't get opera. But if you do
and you come in and you're like, man, I love opera.
I cannot wait to listen to Wagner the Ring Cycle.
That's an opera. Firenced guys, look it up. If that's
where you are with that, I am not going to
look at you and be like, you know, I just

(01:11:43):
that's stupid. I don't understand you opera people like, I'm
just not going to do that. I'm probably going to
be the guy that's like, well, you know, it's it's
not something i've really connected with, but if you want
to go, I'll go with you and I'll try it out.
And like, I'll go and I'll be super into it,
and if I don't like it, I'll tell you afterwards,
but I'll do it that. It's like, hey, that's not
for me, but like totally cool, Like I just I

(01:12:04):
don't understand. If you're not into sports, that's fine. What
I don't understand is why there has to be condescension
with that announcement.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
But isn't it like a true wisdom? They look down
on us, there is, and they look down on us.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
For me, it's like, okay, if you're super into theater,
if you're super into music, if you're super into sports,
if you're super into credit card points, I don't care.
Whatever it is that, whatever your thinking is that gets
you camarader like, whatever it is that brings you together
with your buddies, go for it. Like I really like
playing cards and I like board games like that sort

(01:12:41):
of thing. Like I really like you give me the
choice between going out and raging at a bar or
sitting at home with a bunch of friends and playing catchphrase.
I would rather do catchphrase. But that's okay. Like if
if you're the type that still needs to go to
the bar and just rage, okay, I'm not here to
judge that. I just don't know why, why why everybody
has to put such behind it. It's like, oh, I

(01:13:01):
don't understand. I do not get you guys with football.
And it's like, okay, I think are there people that
take it too far?

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Have I been one of those people before? Absolutely, I'm
the first to admit it. Does it normalize in life?
I think as you get older for most people it does,
like you reprioritize some things. But also, if there's this
fellowship in brotherhood that brings us all together, why does
it matter? Like, if you don't like it, then just
stay out of the way of it. Why does it matter?

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Speaker 8 (01:14:48):
Question for us, Oh I was it was about the
airport thing that we were talking about off air, Yes, yes,
so it was about when you're walking through the airport.
If somebody is walking towards you and they're on their phone,
is it appropriate just to keep walking or.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Well that's what I do.

Speaker 8 (01:15:09):
I keep walking and I just let them bump into
me because I'm like, you should be aware of your surroundings,
which maybe isn't the most a polite thing all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
I think if they're heads in their phone and they're
walking in the airport and they don't see you or
the mall anywhere, really my answer is just to scream
heads up, like I'm not moving. I'm just screaming heads
up right before so that they their jarred and they
look like that. That's the thing me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
You know, she's taking the charge I am.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
She's going straight like Ron Hextall in the eighties. It's
just like charge charge. I will say this too, I am.
I am the type to condescendingly after I've been bumped
into loudly say maybe if you kept your head out
of your damn phone, Like I am the guy that
does that. I'll lookmit that like I got passive aggressive
from my mom. She passed it down to me, so

(01:16:01):
like I'm the type to do that for sure, And I.

Speaker 8 (01:16:03):
Give the dirty look and I'm like, see, what what
are you doing? Why'd you bump into me? Like I
you know, and I put the blame on them because
it is there. It is their fault, right, Like I
just took the hit because I'm I'm not going to
go out of my way and move just because you're
not paying attention. So that was something that I.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Also went through a stage like in my life, you know,
because there was a stage in my life where I
felt like every time somebody knocked into they just said
my bad, and I'm like, really, you had to clarify
that that was your bad. Like you could say I'm sorry,
but if you say my bad, I'm just like, obviously
it's your bad. I was walking and you bumped into me.
So I went into a stage where whenever that happened
and it was an obvious my bad situation, I would

(01:16:42):
just loudly say you're bad, like just to just.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Let them all rule.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
It's like, oh no, that's great. Look, there was a
really confrontational version of me fifteen twenty years ago that
doesn't exist anymore. That's just kind of you know, it
was out there. So yeah, I'll admit that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
All right. I like you too, I love it. You
got to pay, you'll be like your bad I love it.
And then he got breed taking a charge. So that's
that's good, that's great.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Cousin is never gonna want to travel with us because
he feels like he's gonna have to actually be the
muscle that backs it up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
I'll I'll enjoy that.

Speaker 8 (01:17:17):
We'll hide behind you and if you could just take over,
that'd be great, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
I'm just gonna look like anytime somebody comes at me
and I got Cousin around me, I'm gonna be like,
do you want a Sopranos incident? Because I don't know
if you've met my buddy, and that's all Like I'm
gonna let them figure out, you know, how Italian you
are and whether or not you're mafia. I'm just gonna
let them figure that outs. No such steak right right right, right,
right right right, says the mafia.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Anyway. Uh oh, you guys correct for me. Uh So,
a couple of things. One give me game like it's
not Today's is another kind of way, you know, Like
tonight's gonna be great because I'm really looking forward to tennis. See.
I love Tennessee. I think Tennessee is really good. So
I'm looking forward to that game. I mean, obviously watching

(01:18:07):
Arch play. Now they got Monroe, Louisiana Monroe, so it's not,
you know, the big opponent, but Arch makes it must
CTV watching Arch Manning. Give me another game that you're
looking forward to today.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
I mean, I know we already talked about, but I
think the Utah Oklahoma stake is the game that also
really stands out to me. I think that's good. But
also Missouri's taken on Vandy. And I'm not saying Vandy's
any good. I'm just I'm just curious what Missouri continues
to look like.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Yeah, yeah, when you think about UCLA, I because like
this could be an LSU beat down. We'll continue the
conversation where the Fellas right here, Fox Sports Radio, Fox
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Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
FITZI, hey cuz, sell to hey, FETs.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
How's it going.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
It's good, you know it's it's it's nice and welcome
to the Fellas. By the way, this is a fun
time for everybody. That doesn't matter. Kind of our usual
Figgy that you know we love figuring to et. He
is a on paternity leave getting to snuggle with this baby,
which is an important thing. So we appreciate you filling
big shoes.

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
It's a return to home as because we'll tell you
I was. I think it was a little before. We've
worked together Fits before, but like you know it on
this particular show. I used to be on the board
and I used to harass Gargano constantly, pretty much him
and Figy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
I mean, I think it's probably but you know that
you don't want you don't call me by my last name,
no cuz, excuse me.

Speaker 7 (01:20:12):
It's been it's been a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
It's been a minute, and buddy, whatever you want to call,
but not by our last name. Not by the last name.
I hate that. Unless you're my coach. I don't want
to hear you call me.

Speaker 5 (01:20:23):
That's that's so different for me growing up in the
Midwest and having like everyone it's you know, you never
get first name, it's just last name because it's easier
to identify by.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
It's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
I haven't been called Jason for most of my adult
or for most of my life. I mean, there were
six Jason F's in my sixth grade class. So that
was the first time that I ever got fits and
it's still were left after that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Well, but again we talked about this. FITZI is a
perfect nickname though, because it still has that endearing quality
to it and it's not just fits, Like I don't
like just fits. I like FITZI. I think it makes
it more endearing and lovable.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
There's a magic to I like that. Yeah, Like certainly,
whenever whenever somebody's like Jason, I'm like, whoa, we got
what we're doing here? Like did something happen?

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Am I in trouble? I mean the middle name? Are
we pulling that out?

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Like? What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Yeah? Yeah, I like it all right. So a couple
of things. One I got to answer this because one
of the big stories of the week before we get
to the NFL. I I a lot to go through
with the card, but that one of the big stories
of the week was the ultimate woj bomb dropped the
mic so Adrian Woodronowski, who I used to work with

(01:21:43):
in New York. Uh, woj leaves, he becomes the pre
eminent NBA reporter. God bless killing it right, woj bombs.
You wanted to know what's going on in the association.
The woje is the man, and he leaves to become

(01:22:05):
GM of the Saint Bonaventure men's basketball program. Now he's
a Saint Bonnie alum, and he leaves to do the
h to become the GM of the program, which you
know again, this this new role of GM in college

(01:22:26):
sports is a real deal. And uh, I applaud him.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
What do you think, FITZI, Well, I think it's amazing
when you've got somebody that, you know, according to reports,
got ten million dollars a year to be uh, you know,
an NBA insider and really was a newsmaker. There aren't
very many newsmakers left in sports media, right, and he's
a newsmaker. But one thing that's clear, and I've worked
with Woljes a bunch Wlch is a good friend. For

(01:22:55):
my time at ESPN. One thing that was always clear
about Wolves was his love for the Bonnies, right, And
so to me, you look at somebody that put in
the work and did the grind and has these relationships
and he looks around at some point and he's like, man,
I've made enough money that I never have to work again.
What do I want to do? And so I wasn't
surprised because it was Saint Bonnie. He's like, if it
had been some other school or some other random job,

(01:23:16):
I probably would have been shocked. But the minute you
saw that come out, it's like, yep, this only makes sense.
And think about Wojes and his connections, right, Like I mean, obviously,
if you're Saint Bonavitz usally gonna miss his donations because
he can't donate now as the GM, But I'm sure
that given his connections it's going to help. Also his
ability just to connect people around the league, Like his

(01:23:37):
ability to know the league. If you if you're a
kid and you're trying to figure out where where to
play ball and you want to play somewhere that you
know can give you insight into what the NBA's thinking
Woch can do that right, So you know, it's a
huge moment for him personally, and it's going to be
a huge thing for ESPN to try and figure out
how to feel like if Sham's just got a lot richer.
I will say that because whether ESPN gets some or not,

(01:24:00):
when his contracts over, there will be a bidding war
for the next to the next best insider in the business.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Yeah, man, you got that front. God bless. I started
thinking back to my days as a reporter. I'm thinking
I liked all sports, so I was one of these
I love all sports, and I'm thinking myself, Man, I'm
an idiot. I should have just picked one and just
stayed with it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
It's just it's crazy that, you know, you've got basically
one major insider in every sport that just has become
synonymous thro the sport. They give the news out like
it's it's everything.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Yeah, it's it's It's pretty wild. But I'll ask you
this because I would love I was talking about this
before Wojes announced he was doing this on my show
last week. There was actually a week before less I
was messing around. My goal is to take over one

(01:24:59):
of the schools the smaller schools in the Philadelphia area
colleges and try to build a college football program. So
there's a school Westchester or the University of Delaware that
are like borderline D one D two schools, and my

(01:25:20):
goal is now to take one of those schools and
then knowing, like to Michael Rubin of the Fanatics, right,
get start getting people like that. You and I did
the Fanatics Fest at the Garden at.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
The At in New York a couple of weeks ago
at the convention.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Yeah, and I want to do like I want to
use the NIL money to build the program. Like the
beauty of where we stand now is with the portal
and the NIL money. If you got big time donors,
you're in, like you could build the program a real program. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
I mean that's the funny thing that the power that
comes in all of this is that you can you
can win anywhere if you are willing to financially invest
in it, you know, And that's that's just real. So
that's empowering, and basketball particularly, you got to pay the
right guys. I mean, I keep going back to this,
but a few weeks ago, you know, Nick Saban said
on College Game Day in a really powerful moment. They

(01:26:28):
were talking about NIL and he said, just make sure
you pay the right guys, because if you don't, you're
s out of luck. And you know, he said that
live on air, and I thought, man, that is an
important part of this, Like you really have to have
a talent evaluator to make sure you're getting the right people.
But right, man, if you get the right people, good lord.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Yeah, Like, I mean, well that's why I want to
do it. Like I know I can. I have the eye,
so so I want to do this right, Like I
want to create I want to take one of these.
Now I'm you know, involved in youth football and so
I I already have my eye on talent.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
I mean that's the funny thing is like there's so
much value added for schools to have people like this,
Like it's just going to be a bigger and bigger
part of how things move forward. And one thing that
we saw in major college football that I think will
impact every level of college football and really makes even

(01:27:26):
more NIL attainable is Tennessee's decision to add a ten
percent surcharge on season tickets to go towards a collective
And to me, that's brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
I know some fans have freaked out about it, but
to me, like, it's almost like when stadiums are built
and they have a tax on the stadium for any
ticket that's sold there, And again people hate that too,
and they're like, well, why is there a tax? Well
to taxing the people that are actually using it. So
it's a smart way to say, hey, we're gonna we're
going to just cook this into our season ticket prices.

(01:27:55):
And if we have one hundred thousand people that buy
tickets and all of them are giving X amount of
dollars the game, that adds up pretty quickly on being
able to make sure that you can continue to pay
the top talent that's going to be a part of
this process moving forward. So there are so many smart
ways to figure out how to raise money. Now all
you got to do is figure out the right place
to spend that money.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Right. That's where I come in as the GM.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
I like, this can be Can I be the assistant GM?

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
Oh yeah, I would love that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Oh yeah, Like I'll just handle all the I'll handle
all the minutia and everything. And I will say too,
It's interesting because my buddy Adam Brenneman. We work together
on the College Football Power Hour on Yaho's Sports. He
was a college football coach for a little bit with
Arizona Arizona State, former Penn State player. But Brennaman was
talking the other day on social media about modern coaching

(01:28:47):
is eighty percent recruiting and twenty percent developing, and if
you are a great recruiter, you will move up the
ladder incredibly quickly in college sports. I do think that
there is something to just having somebody that knows how
to read the room and identify with kids. You know, like,
these are going to become interesting positions aside from coaching,

(01:29:08):
because we used to assistant coaches also being recruiters. I
think we're going to look at full front offices sooner
than later, and probably at some point some level of
a salary cap for all of college football as they
figure out how to normalize this. But yeah, building a
front office of people that are handling the logistics is
going to be important. And as I've said repeatedly, if

(01:29:28):
I ran a school right now, I would start a
department that was the nil department, where I would have
law majors that want to learn how to become agents.
I'd have them in there. I'd have marketing people in there,
I'd have people, social media people in there. Everybody getting
their degrees and learning how to work specifically with athletes
towards helping athletes build their brand, which would, by the way,
create connections that would create future livelihood for everybody. Imagine

(01:29:51):
how many kids could become agents because they met a
football player at Temple. And by the way, I was
part of the NIL department and I got my degree
in law as an agent, and you know, with an
NIL major at Temple, So now I understand what it's
like to be a sports agent. And this is a
social media guy we could hire. Like you could do
all of that as a school right now if you
were forward thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
Oh yeah, without a doubt, spot on, Yeah, I love it.
I love the like to me, it's one thing, you know,
the recruiting is one thing. It's like to me, now
the onus is truly the talent evaluator. Like I get

(01:30:33):
there's X amount of kids and you know, if you're
like you do you do some stuff for rivals, right
and so like you see some of the elite, you know,
blue chip talent. There's a lot of talent. Man, there's
a lot of talent out there, and if you're a
good evaluator. Besides just people put the recruiting aside because

(01:30:54):
you have the money right to pay them. But if
you can identify the talent and put together a team,
because there's one thing just to go. I'm Georgia and
I'm going to go collect the ten bests, oh you know,
d line and the ten best you know, you know,
the six best linebackers, and I'm going to stockpile. But

(01:31:18):
now it's different because I think there's going to be
more competition for players, and it's going to take a
discerning eye to understand how to build a team and
where you spend your money in the sellar gap because
before you just go it's a race to get as
many as much talent as possible. But now you actually
have to pay the right people.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
Yeah, and that's such a huge part of it, because
it's one thing. If you're churning and burning and there's
no money involved, all right, no harm, no foul. You
get the wrong kid and get them out. Who cares.
There's going to be a limited number of Buddy Garrity's
out there Friday night lights that want to spend money
on quarterbacks that aren't getting playtime. So I just I
do think that at some point, you know, because there

(01:32:03):
are there are major college football programs right now that
haven't that have a total NIO budget of less than
a million dollars for their entire roster. So you're going
to have to turn around and say, Okay, if I
have less than a million dollars, I better be really
spot on with whoever I bring into this team. I
got to use every dollar wisely. So I do agree
that talent evaluators, you're going to see more and more,

(01:32:25):
you know, gms too, Like we always see coaches in
the college game and ask what they look like at
the pros. I think you're going to see more and
more front office than scounting people going to college football
for that reason.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
Yeah, totally, totally right. Yeah, I just think it, and
I think it's so fascinating. I love this new world
of college football. I'm like so into it. I just
think it's it's got so much good stuff, so much
good stuff to In fact, buddy of mine, who was
working with the Eagles as Howie Roseman's top guy, left

(01:32:58):
to start his own company to consult with with a
bunch of the schools. He's consulting with Oklahoma, Nebraska and
how to build the front office.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
So the funny thing too, is like that's the beginning
and then schools are going to start looking and say, Okay,
if we outsource it, it costs this much. If we
bring it in house, it costs this much. Right, Like,
So it's just these are the layers in the levels.
Like college football is going to look so different in
five years. I can't wait for it totally. I love change.
I embrace the change in all of this chaos. Yeah,

(01:33:34):
and for everybody that sits there, it's just like ah,
I mean, like, look, in the modern college sports environment,
your team can be as competitive as their wallace want
to be so. Like, as a UNLV fan growing up
for UNLB basketball, all UNLV has to do for basketball
to be really competitive is get all those casinos to
pop a little bit of money into an nil kitty

(01:33:54):
and then identify some talent. They could win national championships.
If Vegas wants to win Natties, they can. I love
that level of empowered. If Vandy really wants to be
a great football team, they can go to their alumni base,
which by the way, has done very well financially, and
they can say, Okay, we want to be successful in football,
let's build a collective. Like all of these things are attainable.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
It's not just well we don't have Nick Saban so
we can't compete. No, no, no no. If you've got
the pockets, you can compete.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
Yeah, no, spot on, All right, We've got lots of
storylines go over in the NFL, so let's do that
coming up next. And also the specter of Bellichack. He's around, man,
every coach that's feeling heat, he's around, and he's not shy.

(01:34:46):
He's actually incredible on the air too. It's amazing. Where
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to get to this story. I love this story, FITZI.
How about this? This is interesting. My just had it.
So in New Orleans here it is. This is awesome.

(01:36:11):
New Orleans has gone eighteen days without a murder. Crime
experts say it's the longest stint in years and it
has to do with the belief that it's football. So
Derek Carr and the Saints putting a bite into crime

(01:36:36):
like McGruff, and I think it's a great story. Violent
crime went down in the city of Philadelphia two years
ago during the Phillies run and the Eagles, when the
Eagles were off the really good start and the Phillies
were doing their Red October World Series run. Violent crime

(01:36:59):
went down to z Era and we see murder with
the murder rate falling into New Orleans. Sports can have
that kind of impact on local society.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
No, I mean when you say that way, it's so
stunning when you think about it, and you're right, and
it's amazing what it does for community. Also, I don't
know if you saw this, but if you look at
Derek Carr's career, this was out on X this week
and true, no, no, if you look at Derek Carran
election years, Derek carrn election years is an MVP candidate sixteen,

(01:37:33):
twenty and twenty four, there is something weird, Like I
don't know what happens to DC in election years, but
it absolutely it hits different. It hits different for sure.
So it's amazing how all of this has come together.
And Brie, by the way, on our show, a big
Saints fan, I owe her a mea culport because I
definitely thought that this was the like it's going to

(01:37:54):
come back to earth, the Saints aren't that good whatever whatever.
Boy was I wrong, because I mean, my god, New
Orleans absolutely just hammering people right now. So you know,
kudos to the way they're playing there, and just incredible
to think that it has that level of impact to
an entire city. But there's a different joy when when

(01:38:14):
your team's good. There's definitely a different joy. I think
we can all agree on that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
No, I think it's beautiful. Hey, one to have a
think a a car, I thought you were going here.
I'm sorry I had the wrong I'll get to it later.
That's a Baker Mayfield piece. The thing about teams doing
well in a community and that it does such good

(01:38:41):
has such a major impact on the spirit that people
feel good about themselves, that the community rises, that there's
an uptick and polite behavior. It's a fascinating study. Man, Listen,
Sports saves lives, Sports builds churches. I love. I'm a

(01:39:06):
big believer in it, man. I think there's a lot
of goodness there.

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
That's it's wild to think that that has that level
of impact. Like it it's hard to imagine you're right,
and then numbers bear it out. It's just hard to
conceptualize that, you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
Know, like to to well, think about it though it
fosters uh happiness, togetherness. Yeah, I mean that community feeling
is real, Like, yeah, how it is you're more apt
to do right by your neighbor. Like It's it's odd,

(01:39:46):
but sports is such a big deal in our society
that it that it can have that kind of impact.
But let's let's let's be real about something too.

Speaker 3 (01:39:55):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
In an era when organized religion is probably at its
lowest in our lifetime time. The biggest religion, the biggest
organic gathering of souls is by sports fans is by
football fans. It's you know, they gather at stadiums, they
gather in parking lots, they gather in houses. There is food,

(01:40:21):
there is togetherness. I mean, it's tell me that that's
not church.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
I mean everything you've just described one hundred percent. And
I lived a lot of that. Like a really special
moment my life was covering the Preds the year that
they went to the Stanley Cup Final and just seeing
the way that Nashville came together. It's funny to me
that so many people that they're just sort of casual
whatever hockey knowledge, people don't even realize that the Preds

(01:40:49):
at one point were on the precipice of moving. The
relocation was real and nobody was going to that arena,
And then you think about where it is now or
where it's gone to in that era that I covered,
watching the entire community come together for street parties where
people were just absolutely slammed into the Concourse area and
up and down the lower broad just to watch a
hockey team. And it made friends out of enemies. Like

(01:41:11):
that's that's the craziest thing about what can happen when
it feels like you're sitting in the middle the middle
of a magical moment. And I don't know, like somebody
smarter than me would know the answer to this, But
I don't know that that's the case if you're you know,
a Celtics fan or a Patriots fan, Like if you're
in a city that wins all the time, blah blah
blah blah blah. But there is a a moment here

(01:41:32):
where you know you you have to look at it
and say, when it happens once and it's magical when
it when you have that that first moment, and when
an unexpected moment, it definitely draws people together.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
It just stoles.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
I love it. I absolutely love it all right. Story
the Saints, Now, let's look on the field. How real
is New Orleans? They go in and absolutely annihilate the
Cowboys on the road.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
They have a great running game with Camara, who has
built life behind a rebuilt offensive line, and they have
two great receivers. I love a lave and Shaheed is
one of the just fastest players. He can run through
a cover two and there's a lot of space on

(01:42:26):
the field. How real? And they have a good defense,
So how real are the Saints?

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
I mean, I think the biggest thing about the Saints
that's studdying to me is their efficiency offensively right now?
You know, so how real are they? I think we
get a big answer to that because there is going
to be a hone in on Alvin Kamara. Do anything
you can to take him out of the game plan
and see if Olave and kar can still beat you.
That is going to be a real part of what

(01:42:53):
we see over the next few weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:42:55):
Carr has had his issues in the red zone. I
think everybody knows that it's been really well covered for
a long time. So I'm wondering, has that suddenly been
solved a new offensive coordinator suddenly he has found the
trick to that, don't I don't know, but man, as
well as they're playing right now. I know it's only
two weeks, but to put up the points they're putting
up and to do it as effortlessly as they're doing

(01:43:16):
it right now, I think there is a statement being made.
I don't think you can deny the statement that New
Orleans has made. I think they're real, But man, I
a lot of that is because I think so highly
of the Cowboys, and the Cowboys just got their assets kicked. Like,
I think this weekend's matchup against Philly is one of
the most interesting because Philly's gonna come in with a
absolute you know, we will we will do everything we

(01:43:37):
can to stop this run. And that's something that simply,
as you well know, the Cowboys have never been capable of.
They can't stop runs out of that scheme. So let's
see if Philly has a better answer for him. And
if they don't, then I think we do need to
step back and say, yep, this is a much better
New Orleans team than we thought.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
Yeah, the Eagles run defense is woeful.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
Yes, so so the fact that's gonna be the case
throughout the course of the season, because I just I
feel like they're there. Their tackles are too good to
be terrible against the run all year, are they not?

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
I don't know. Their tackles are young and inexperience, right,
so their tackles could be a bust. I mean, I
love Jalen Carter. I think Jaalen Carr is legit. He
was late and did not play the first five snaps
of the game, got in, saw out a double team.

(01:44:32):
He's going to be good, But the rest of that front,
I don't know what you got. Jordan Davis can't stay
on the fields. He's a big, huge disappointment. Trade up
to get the big big right to get the big
boy in the middle clogging him up, and he's just

(01:44:55):
been bad. He has not been able to stay on
the field, not enough snaps. So Jordan Davis big question mark.
And then their edges are horrible, like Bryce Hoff. They
pay spent fifty million dollars on Bryce Huff and he's

(01:45:17):
been a ghost. He can't sniff, they can't sniff the quarterback,
and they play a scheme Fangio scheme where they don't
like to blitz a lot. And that was that was
just horrible defense. Like, as someone who loves defense, watching
the end of that game and watching Cousins on one

(01:45:40):
leg still recover from the achilles go down the field
untouched with no timeouts was absolutely an embarrassment.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
Yeah, I agree with that that portion of it. Like
as much as we've already talked about sort of some
of the faults of the and whether or not they
should have thrown the ball to Saquon. There is also
another spot of like you let one leg at Kirk
Cousins do that to you. And it is alarming to
me how the entire conversation about the Minnesota Vikings has

(01:46:12):
changed based on one drive, because like, the Vikings offense
didn't necessarily look great the rest of the time, but
they looked great for that one drive. And now all
of a sudden, it's like, wow, the Vikings have really
figured this thing out, and look at all the changes
they made and blah blah blah, and it's like, man,
that's just a dangerous, dangerous sort of way to go,
because I don't know if I believe that that's sustainable

(01:46:34):
for Minnesota. And I think we're really overreacting to what
was one good drive. It's a little concerning in my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
Maybe it funny because how we it is unbelievable how
we overreact, Like we're NFL fans, you know, week to
week if skies fall in and rash statements, but you know,
it is what it is. There's always a modicum of

(01:47:03):
truth behind it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
But also, like I always say, and I'll say again
now for the new audience, like The toughest part of
what we do is that we are asked specifically to
write a book report after every chapter of a book,
and like, if we're being real, sometimes you read the
first chapter of a book, you're like, man, this thing's great.
Then you get to the end of it and you're like, man,
this thing sucks. Imagine if every thirty minutes they stopped

(01:47:26):
a movie and said, Okay, give us a review. How
good is this movie going to be? Well, I don't know.
I got to see it till the end. But unfortunately,
for what we do, it's not like we could turn
around and say, guys, we're not going to make any
sweeping generalizations about the Eagles until the season ends. Like
that is not a luxury any of us have provided.
So the best you can do is just sort of
give your best opinion based on what you see. And

(01:47:46):
that's where I think, like the ad we run on
Fox Sports Radio all the time about even when Colin
Coward's wrong, he's right, he is kind of right, Like
the evidence changes every week, So we overreact because we
have to over I just don't know, I don't know
any other way.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
You know, right now, it's well, listen it's the truth.
Like we were talking about that. I was talking about
it this week with you know, when you see defensive
play that poorly, you know, I mean, how does that
get fixed overnight? Like unless the young players suddenly blossom
before your eyes and a couple of them don't even

(01:48:20):
appear to have any ability to play at this level,
then I don't know how that changes. So that's something
that when you strap light for the rest of the season,
that your defense is that porous, then you got issues.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
Yeah, And the crazy thing about defense particularly is that
I think we need to remind everybody you only have
fourteen padded practices per year, and you can't have two
in a week during the course of the regular season.
So if your team is bad on defense, if they're
bad at taking angles, they're bad at tackling the bad
at all of those things, they can work on some
of that, but they can't really fix that. Like there

(01:48:58):
is no if your team is just bad defensively, I
don't know what fixes that. Sometimes they get a little
bit better, but usually it's a scheme change that has
to happen. Something has to happen in what they're being
asked to do, rather than you know, you can't do
much about I don't think player development on the defensive
side of the ball that takes you from a terrible
defense to a great defense. During the course of a season,

(01:49:19):
you might go from being okay to being a little
better than okay. But if your hope is that, well,
everything's going to click defensively, I do believe everything can
click offensively because timing is such a part of it.
But if your team's bad on the defensive side of
the ball, they're just going to be bad this year.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
Yeah, man, I think your spot or your spot on
all that, which is a sad message to get fans,
but I'm just being honest, you know, yeah, and I
know I feel you. All right. So, how real are
the Cowboys problems defensively? Because you know they have ability,

(01:49:56):
they just can't stop any kind of run.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
Yeah, that's huge. The fact that they get run on
by Kyle Shanahan offensive schemes is huge, like, because that's
what they're gonna have to face. And look, you know,
I've been the biggest Cowboys guy. I'm the guy that's
like they're gonna be just fine. But then you see
that and you're like, oh god, this is why they
always lose in the playoffs because they just can't do
some of the basic things that you have to be
able to do against really good teams. And I don't

(01:50:22):
know how you fix that either. If you haven't fixed
it like a new defense was supposed to. They were
supposed to fix that during the offseason. So to get
kicked in the teeth like that, Oh, that's I mean,
that's a staggering. That is truly an important moment for
whatever they're trying to accomplish. That You cannot tell me
that that doesn't give cause for concern to literally everybody involved.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
Ah, dude, I feel you. I feel you. But all right,
let's can you around the NFC and what do you
make of Caleb williams struggles. One thing about young quarterbacks
coming in the league right now, the sea change of

(01:51:07):
how defense is way ahead of the offense right now.
It's it's pretty pretty dramatic, and a lot of the
young quarterbacks are realizing they can't play joystick football at
this level.

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
The other part of it is, because you're right, look
at it, what Caleb Williams doesn't do well all the
way to college. The people that would look back at
USC will tell you that he worked really hard to
make huge plays, but sometimes just didn't take what was
easy in their for him. And what's happening right now
is that it feels like again he's running around trying
to make huge plays. You got to coach that out

(01:51:48):
of him. You got to figure out a way quickly
to coach that out of him. I would argue, you
know that Will Levis's stupidity on the football field is
the reason the Titans aren't two and oh instead of
oho and two. And I would also argue that you
can go back and watch college film and see that.
I would argue that Anthony Richardson's great throws and terrible
throws or exactly who he was at Florida, and you
got to coach that out of it with Caleb. You

(01:52:08):
got to start right now. I think nobody's doing a
better job with the young quarterback than Washington, other than
the CJ. Stroud. Then Washington with Jade and Daniels, because
they are being super cautious and how they bring him
into this and they're just making sure, hey, we're gonna
give him just a little taste of this so that
he can be comfortable. And then we're gonna get it
working from there. They're not doing that with Caleb, And
right now it feels like the coaches are failing, in

(01:52:30):
which I predicted.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
Yeah, yeah, all right, tight, because we got lots to discuss,
including man, are the Rams dead? We're the Fellas fits
he Cauz right here, Fox Sports Radio, Fellas hanging out
on this Fox Football Saturday. Hey, let me ask you, Rams.

(01:52:58):
Let's go. Let's go team by team a little bit.
Rams in some trouble man no offensive line obviously, Kop
and Pooka. I mean that's a killer.

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
Yeah. And by the way, you know, we say every
year at the end of the year, the team that
was healthiest was the team that probably won a bunch
of games. We are looking at some of the biggest
teams in the league just absolutely decimated by injuries. I
don't know what to expect with the Rams at this point.
I think, you know, if they can even remain competitive,
that's going to be absolutely shocking to me. So I

(01:53:31):
think the Rams, through no fault of their own. I
just don't think you can deal with what they're dealing
with and still survive it. So they're up against it.
This feels like a season gone wrong, a season wasted
for them at this point lest they can suddenly get
healthy in a very real way.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
Dude, I'm with you, and I don't know how you
can you protect If you can't protect Stafford right like,
we know that that's a disaster and then he's got
nobody to throw to. I mean, you're when you're all
lines like that, that just kills you nine by the way,
but not enough.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
You mentioned the old line. Let's be a broken record
here too. Said it last year there were not thirty
two caliber starting caliber left tackles and right tackles in
the NFL. What are we seeing across the board? Like
we are watching quarterbacks just get hammered because offensive line
play is bad, Like y'all like as much as we
want to sit here and obsess over skill, possession, position,

(01:54:29):
and quarterbacks because that gets fantasy football points for all
of us. This is over simplification. But again, fat guys
win football games. If your fat guys are not as
good as the other team's fat guys, you are not
going to win. And the hardest part is that it's
a tough position to evaluate, it's a tough position to
talk about. It's a tough position to watch on Sundays
and to know where the problem is. But we sit

(01:54:50):
here and we scream at running backs for not getting
enough production, and we scream at quarterbacks for not getting
rid of the ball, when we should be screaming at
the fact that offensive linemen coming out of college for
the most part, are not prepared to play. They're not
getting groom to play, and they're coming into the league
and they're not playing well. And so you got playoff
caliber football teams left and right that are just getting
their asses kicked because their offensive line is not good.

Speaker 2 (01:55:13):
Yes, yes, I gotta give a Yoda my main tuco
who is grooving it to Steely Dan in bed. We
came back to steely Dad. That is amazing. Uh how
about the Uh the Chiefs lose, that's a big loss, man,

(01:55:37):
You losing the checko, that's a that's another big loss.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
Early And it's one of those moments that we just
keep We just presume that, you know, Patrick Mahomes pull
Mahomes his way through it, and I'm not gonna presume
he won't because that's all he ever does. But man,
that's another example of just a crack in the armor, right,
now looking across the board, like the teams that we
thought were gonna be great this year, cracks in the

(01:56:04):
armor all the way across the board for most of them,
like Baltimore does not look like they can get out
of their own way. The Chiefs have an injury issue
that I think is substantial. The forty nine ers are
tesimated right now with injuries. The Cowboys, they come off
a game where they couldn't stop the run at all,
Like a bunch of these teams that we were pretty
sure we're gonna be very good. Like if I'm Detroit,

(01:56:26):
I'm just sort of laughing. If I'm the Bills, I'm
just sort of laughing. I'm like, y'all keep worrying about
all these other bigger brands. Well, we just go out here,
stay healthy, and we win some football games.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
Well, any other aspect is too. Is the style you
mentioned Buffalo. Look at the style in which now teams
are playing. It's a run heavy, big package, you know,
full backs, tight, double tights, twelve personnel, thirteen personnel, and

(01:56:57):
it's teams are running the football.

Speaker 1 (01:57:00):
Yeah, I mean one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
That's the Bills.

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
And by the way, Josh Allen continues to be herculean
no matter what's around him, because they're they're just they
found a way to build around the strengths of their identity,
which is Josh Allen and that offense. So you're right,
and it's fun to see this sort of the teams
that can move the line of scrimmage or at least
hold the line of scrimmage, they can get any sort
of run game going or just flat out better this year,

(01:57:25):
And it's it's fun for me to watch it really is.

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
I it's different, you know, it's you know that it's
funny the uh that air raid head down the field
with all the all wax, all the of the horizontal
stuff that's all getting defenses are are caught up to that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:47):
Yeah, and they'll continue. This is a just counter adjust, right,
So now you're gonna see the run win for a
little bit and then everybody will figure out how to
pass it. Like it's it's gonna be an interesting season
to see what actually sustains. And it's funny to be
through all of that that my beloved Raiders got an
upset by abandoning the run completely because their offensive line
is too bad to run.

Speaker 2 (01:58:05):
Yeah, how nuts is that? Oh man. All right, big
al we're coming up next. Fellas on Fox.

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get off the air. Let's go game by game Fitsie,
all right, and let's look at it and get your thoughts.
So we'll start off Chargers and Stealers Battle two with
those both teams playing old school hard scrabble football.

Speaker 1 (01:59:52):
Yeah, and by the way, you just heard Justin Herbert
hi ankle sprain obviously gonna be significant in this one.
Let's not sleep on the Steelers defense and how good
they are. Justin Fields is playing well enough to win
football games. He's playing fine. Hammered. The over on Justin
Field's rushing yard in Vegas gets that wrong all the time.
But you know, with Justin Herbert being less than himself,

(02:00:14):
less than one hundred percent of himself, you might think
that that hinders the Chargers. The only thing I'd say
is that this is a hardball Chargers team. They're going
to try and run the football three thousand times. So
you know, this just feels like an ugly, ugly football
game where two defenses are going to come to play
and we'll see who makes the least mistakes. If Herbert
is less than one hundred percent, which he will be
if he's if Herbert's not himself, then the Steelers can

(02:00:35):
win this football game.

Speaker 3 (02:00:36):
Though.

Speaker 2 (02:00:37):
Yeah, I'm with you, man, I really am. I do
think I love that still a defense man, that's still
a defense And look, I mean Field struggles throwing the ball,
but if you could just get it to be credible
because of his running ability, they're dangerous. Like they're a

(02:00:57):
dull shorten the game on youah me luck what they do,
that's just that's Steeler football.

Speaker 1 (02:01:04):
Yeah, and you're right. I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist,
but I think now that Justin Fields is in, it's
gonna be hard to take Justin Fields out if he
continues to do just enough to win. So and he's
done that, I think we over complicate some of this
based on the expectations that we have for Justin Fields.
But the fact is right now Arthur Smith and that offense,
the offensive coordinated for the Steelers. They need somebody that's

(02:01:26):
a little mobile. They can get out, they can make
things work. He can do that. I think the death
of the Steelers underreported. They feel like the annual Steelers
and nine wind h.

Speaker 2 (02:01:34):
Yeah, spot on, all right, Minnesota two and oh with
Sam Donald, Sam I am Donald with weapons and an
offensive line looking good. They hosted Texas. I by the way,
I love the Houston in this game. I just think

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Houston is so good. Houston is so good, and we
I don't think we've seen how good they are.

Speaker 1 (02:02:02):
I honestly think that what we're seeing at this point
from CJ Stroud is almost Dann Marino, like when you
just talk about a kid that just can come in
and do everything from the outset, from the very beginning
of his career. Like, I'm the CJ looks every bit
as clean as he did last year, right, and this

(02:02:23):
Texans team is really good. I think he's a little surprising.
But did you find yourself with Sam Darnald? Let me
ask you this with Sam, because I've been sassy with
a lot of people saying that Sam Donald can still play,
and I'm like, come on, relax, now, all of a sudden,
he can play. I actually found myself last week saying, man,
why JJ McCarthy, if you can get this much out
of Sam Donald, why did you spend the equity on JJ.

(02:02:45):
I understand it's because maybe you don't think this is sustainable,
but dang, man, I don't know like this versus Sam Donald,
Like kudos to Kevin O'Connell forgetting it worked out, but man,
I watched it and thought, this is way better than
I thought it could look.

Speaker 2 (02:03:00):
Yeah, I'm still dubious when it comes to Donald and
you know, and I get why, Like I would have
went McCarthy too, So I'm I'm dubious with it. I
don't know, you have those great you have great weapons,
So I guess, you know, let's see, let's see what happens.
Maybe he can. Uh, Eagles you like? I like Houston

(02:03:22):
the game? Are you liking the game? I like Eagles
and Saints again, we talked about them. Saints two and zero. Uh,
Eagles lose a tough one Saints. Uh with that offense ridiculous,
they were a two and a half point favorite.

Speaker 1 (02:03:39):
Yeah, And I like Philly in this game. I think
Philly's backs up against the wall. We'll see an energized
different version of Philly in this I mean not energizing different,
but you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:03:46):
I think, No, it's weird, right, Like the Eagles cover
off the short week Monday Night, Saints looks so great
rallying Dallas. That that's the way this league is, right,
Like the other team comes in you all then in
a short week it will win.

Speaker 1 (02:04:02):
Yeah. And there's just an element to me too where
I keep waiting for the shoot to drop on on
this offense for New Orleans and maybe I'm maybe I'm
just taking too long to jump on the bandwagon. But
I also think that our Philly conversation, if the to me,
the guy that I think could be the MVP this year,
holds onto the football, We're having totally different conversation about

(02:04:23):
Philly right now. We're just tare and I know that
that's not what happens, so we're not having that, but
still I'm trying to keep that context in my mind.

Speaker 2 (02:04:31):
No, I get you. I will say this, it's a
night It's a matchup nightmare for.

Speaker 1 (02:04:37):
The Eagles, the bad matchup for him.

Speaker 2 (02:04:40):
So it'll be interesting to see if the ebb and
flow of the league fits Denver and Tampa speaking is
another team that's dangerous, Tampa two and out. I want
to read you as Baker Mayfield Drew Brees first ninety
five games of their respective careers, Breeze twenty two thousand

(02:05:05):
passing yards, Baker twenty one to nine touchdowns, Baker one
forty five, Breeze one forty two interceptions, Drew Breese eighty five,
Baker seventy eight. Passer rating Baker eighty nine, four Breeze
eighty eighty five, Record Breeze forty nine and forty six,

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Mayfield forty six and forty nine. How fascinating is that?

Speaker 1 (02:05:35):
That's insane when you read it out that way. I mean,
that's that's crazy. And I mean Baker at this point
is just it's it's the version of Baker everybody wanted
from the outset, right, Like, it's it's different. It's it's
more relaxed, it's more in control.

Speaker 2 (02:05:52):
It just looks I.

Speaker 1 (02:05:53):
Say this a lot with really good football, but when
it looks effortless, that's when you know it's it's working.
Like I'm not talking about the result, I'm talking about
the way. The result looks right. And there's just for
this offense, for this, for this Bucks team, it looks easy.
I'm really impressed with where Baker is. And and not
for nothing, I thought it was gonna be the NFC
sucking and the NFC South. Instead looks like it's pretty good.

(02:06:15):
So you got to give them a lot of credit, dude.

Speaker 2 (02:06:17):
Not for nothing, man, it looks real good. And uh,
Evans and Godwin are ageless. They are vampires.

Speaker 1 (02:06:27):
Yeah, I don't know how you stop them. And the
way this this offense looks, it's just they can beat
you in so many different levels and that's so difficult
to defend. Yeah, it's it's really impressive. And where Baker
is is impressive. It's a reminder that every time we
want to give up on a quarterback, we just need
to look at Baker and say, hey, it can be done.

Speaker 2 (02:06:44):
Yeah. Uh, Packers Titans mayo man against Uh No. I
don't think Love is going to play in this. Uh,
there's a chance, but I think probably give him one
more week. Tennessee is a three point favorite.

Speaker 1 (02:07:04):
Yeah, And I mean what the Colts didn't do against
Green Bay last week was coaching malpractice, Like to let
them run all over you like that and then to
not run the ball. I made no sense. The entire
Colts game plan was trash last week. The Packers will
come into this game for the Molik Willis revenge game,
but go back and rewatch it like they won that

(02:07:24):
game knowing that they couldn't throw the football. The Titans
defense has played really well. They'll play really well here. Again.
I don't think you can you know that there's Russian
roulette playing with Molie Willis as your quarterback. They'll lose
this time.

Speaker 2 (02:07:35):
Yeah, I agree. I like Tennessee a lot. In this game.
Uh ooh the Giants a mockery that the Giants are.
They're just pathetic and U and then the Browns Deshaun
Watson just flat out steaks. I mean, just he stakes.

(02:07:57):
And it's a shame because that's a good team and
he is borderline unplayable. That they should have kept Flacco.

Speaker 1 (02:08:07):
They should have kept Flacco. I just can't even say
that with the straight face and your right, it's gross,
but you're right, and you know, to be as bad
as Deshaun is on a roster that's got the potential
that they have is just it's got to be making
everybody sick. It really does. And I don't I can't

(02:08:27):
imagine it, like as a fan, as an organization. If
I'm Miles Garrett, I mean everybody in this process. I
just I cannot imagine it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:38):
Ah, where we're at. Cults and bears, this line's crazy
culture are one point favorite. I don't see how that's possible.
I think I think their they I think they went
by double ditch tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:08:53):
I also, at the same time, though there's this shock
and awe over what we're seeing now around Anthony Richardson,
and it's like, what did you expect?

Speaker 2 (02:09:04):
You know?

Speaker 1 (02:09:04):
Like to me, there's this little element of what Anthony
Richardson so far is is exactly who he was when
he was at Florida. Like he's gonna make a throw
that you've never seen before. You cannot believe that anybody
was capable of making that. Then he's gonna miss somebody
wide open, like he's just they need to do what
the Bills did with Josh Allen. Just tell all of
us to shut up, just go back and say we're

(02:09:26):
gonna it's gonna take three years, Like it took three
years for Josh Allen to get great, and by the way,
they lost year one of Anthony Richardson, so now you
could be looking at three additional years to get to
the point they're great. So, like, I just think everybody
needs to calm down and understand the up and down
is who Anthony Richardson is. Shane Stiken needs to get
this under control and start running the football. Also, I

(02:09:48):
think it's concerning that we've seen so few runs from
Anthony Richardson. You can't take away the entirety of what
makes him a special quarterback, whether it's on him or
whether it's on the offense. They got to find a
way to get him more involved.

Speaker 2 (02:09:58):
Agreed, that's all the Uh, it got so bad that
they had to make a change. So here's Andy Dalton
the red rifle against your squad. The Raiders come it
all the big win in Baltimore. You gotta be feeling good.

Speaker 1 (02:10:24):
I'm nervous. I think you know. The number of times
I've seen the Raiders take on a quarterback on a
bad team that's suddenly being put in and then lose
the game makes me a little nervous. But man, I
don't know this is I said earlier. Identity wins. Antonio
Pierce's identity is a team that comes out with a fire,
like with a thunder of the gods. This week tests
that because this is the first time I can think

(02:10:45):
of in Antonio Pierce's short regime with the Raiders if
we go back to last year and now where the
team has come in a heavy favorite expected to win, right,
and that's not something that we're used to. So I'm
interested to see if they come out with that fire
in their belly and that same level of intent City
home opener. They should. I think they should win this
game by double digits. If they don't, then you gotta

(02:11:05):
look around and say, Okay, what's going on. Andy Dalton
getting into this game? I feel for him because he's
not particularly mobile, and Max Crosby is on one right now.
So you know, if there's no other reason to watch
this game, watch it because Max Crosby is a delight
to watch play the game.

Speaker 2 (02:11:20):
Oh my god. You know what's amazing about him is
that he so wants to be great. Like when you
watch a player that is so into their craft that
they're obsessed with being great. That's Max. From his workouts

(02:11:41):
to technique, I mean, it's so impressive. You know they
do this pass work, this pass rushing, seminar getaway. Yeah,
and a lot of the best pass rushes go out
they and Max a big part of it. And the
amount of the attention to detail on the rush. It's

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freaking fascinating, dude, It's unbelievable. He's such a great player.

Speaker 1 (02:12:09):
I remember interviewing him right after he signed his first
huge deal and I asked him what he did the
next day, and I was waiting for him to give
me the went and bought this, went and did this,
and he's like got into the facility at five am,
had to work. And it's just like, y'all, if I'd
signed one hundred and ten million dollar contract the next
day I had taken it off, I would. That's why
I'm not Max Crosby right, like one of a million reasons.

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But there's just guys are wired different. He's wired different.
And that moment that they've made a big deal of
in the broadcast last week was a big deal where
he you know, he pulled Gardner Minshew aside as he
was coming off the field after a stupid interception, and
Max took that leadership role.

Speaker 3 (02:12:45):
Like I.

Speaker 1 (02:12:46):
He's more than a defensive player. He is the quarterback.
He is the leader. He is the face of this organization.
And I can't think of anybody that would be a
better face, honestly because of the way he handles it.

Speaker 2 (02:12:56):
I know, Uh, Seattle Miami, of course, Uh, it's Shaeweed's
We await whether or not to it can make it back,
We'll make it back. We'll ever play again. Seahawks, you
believe her.

Speaker 1 (02:13:12):
The Seahawks, Uh cautiously optimistic with the Seahawks. I think
Kenneth Walker, the third being out of this game is
big though, Like I really do like he's he's an
offense saver. So I think it's a little concerning obviously
that he's not gonna be there. You got, Yeah, there's
no doubt they still they still have capability of running

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the football. They're gonna have to. It was a particularly
uninspired effort against New England. So and I'm still not
a big believer that Gino has showed us that he's
sustainably a high level quarterback. In the spreer, I think
there's some concern.

Speaker 2 (02:13:47):
Uh, the best game of the day is a fascinating
one Baltimore oh and two need this one bad. They
go to Dallas after Dallas gets anoolated by the Saints.
This is called to be a fun one man, because
the Raiders can't start zero and three.

Speaker 1 (02:14:10):
Yeah, And Todd Munkin, the offensive coordinator that I threw
under the bus earlier, has to be more disciplined as
a play caller, doesn't he Like, Okay, the way to
beat Dallas is by running the ball. So you've got
Derek Henry run the damn ball like this is This
is simple. And if you're Dallas, man, you need to
get this offense clicking. I mean, you need to get
things going quick and early in this game. You need

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to get the stink of the New Orleans game out
in the first couple of drives. You got to come
out and show that like that's not lingering, because I
do think losses like that can linger for good teams.

Speaker 2 (02:14:41):
I'll be honest with you. I know we've kind of
went back and forth on Dallas a little bit. I
still don't get them. I don't. I don't think they're
that good.

Speaker 1 (02:14:51):
I don't. I just don't.

Speaker 2 (02:14:53):
I don't know what like other than and to your point,
and you're right about this every year at CD, all right,
and look, Cooks in the game in the first game
looked good, but they're run game. Man, How's that going
to sustain a whole year?

Speaker 1 (02:15:13):
I don't know if it is. I think they just
decided they could win without it. We'll see if they
were right about winning without it. But I think that's
what they decided. And uh, you know it's certainly I've
got plenty of crow to eat. As positive as I've
been on him and as bad as they looked last week.
If they look that bad again here, I think there's
there's reason for absolute panic at that point.

Speaker 2 (02:15:36):
I'll tell you I'm shocked like that. NFC East looks horrendous.

Speaker 1 (02:15:42):
Yeah, cause you're right so far, it absolutely was terrible.

Speaker 2 (02:15:47):
Oh my god, U Lions and Cardinals? Oh, oh my god.
Mary uh to Marvin Junior, Wow, Mary looked amic. He
gets the rook of value into the first week, he's quiet.
Week two, he explodes some big plays down the field.

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This is a great game, man, Arizona Detroit. I still
I am a huge believer in the Lions, even though
they lost last week to Tampa. I still think the
lines are the best team in the in the NFC.

Speaker 1 (02:16:21):
Yeah, I'm a big believer in the Lions. But also,
I mean, Murray is, there's plenty of people that owe
an apology to the Cardinals because remember it was get
out of that contract, go get yourself, Kayleb Williams. Somehow,
you know, start over at the quarterback position, and it's like, actually,
looks like you kind of did the right thing there
because you know you've got your little guys playing lights out. Now,

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let's be honest, I mean, we see this go awry
with it with health every single year. So let's get
through an entire year healthy before I turn around and annoint.
But man, the way he's playing right now, it's hard
not to just step back and say, Holy cow, I
know it looks great.

Speaker 2 (02:17:00):
Let's take quick time out. The brain's coming up for
a little handicapping. We'll take a look at the world
of sports from a betting standpoint. That's coming up next
to Fellas hanging with you, Jason Fitz, Anthony Garganta right
here Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (02:17:18):
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Speaker 2 (02:17:31):
All right, welcome back, Fellas Fitsy Cauz hanging Fox Football
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just a sportsman, but he h knows all about wagers.
He is, of course the brain had fine by Good
morning Brain, Good morning Anthony.

Speaker 3 (02:18:03):
How are you a couple of good football games last night?
Were you able to watch them?

Speaker 2 (02:18:07):
I know man, I watched of Churs. I watched it
all alcohol, hoskered up and guys. Yeah, a tough one
last night. I will say this though, ray Ol is
the truth. Like he's next year, he's gonna be ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (02:18:25):
He'sman Trophy candidate. I actually believe. Yeah, he's really good. Yeah,
I mean he's really really good. Uh And yeah, Nebraska
the future is right. They have a good coach, they
have a good quarterback.

Speaker 2 (02:18:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:18:38):
I think that that is a school that is certainly
headed in the right direction for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:18:44):
So where do we start. Let's start with the college
slate today and the big one Tennessee Oklahoma. I don't
match ups, man, and more and more I study this game.
The more and more I just go, Man, I don't know.
I like I like the valves all day.

Speaker 3 (02:19:01):
You know, there has not been a line that you
go from like before the year started to now where
the line has changed this month. Now the line is
teering between six and a half and seven. Okay, it's
between six and a half nine thing Oklahoma. This year
they played obviously a horrible Temple team h and they

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beat them. Okay, I'm not going to count that game.
And then again it's the again, a not so great
Houston team. They beat them at like only sixteen to twelve,
sixteen to twelve at home. They didn't look great against
Tulane and laid the Tennessee team Anthony. That granted, has
not had the hardest schedule in the world, but man,
what they have done in those games is absolutely unbelievable.

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They're out gaining the opponents by almost five hundred yards
a game and winning by almost sixty points a game
in scoring margin. Now again they're toughest. They did play
NC State, who's obviously not a great team, but at
least it's a you know, certainly probably if there's anyone
Oklahoma's played. Look, I mean, for me, this game, I
just I wish I'd seen Tennessee play against someone a

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little bit better, so to speak. I don't know how
real they really are. Oklahoma I don't think is very
good this year. I think he's just going to be
a down Oklahoma year. And I think that they listen,
I don't think they're really that good. The question is,
can I trust Tennessee to win this game by a
touchdown on the road. But what they've done so far

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are the answers. Yes, I didn't personally bet this game.
It's the game I'm looking at that potentially live. I
just don't know if I have enough gata to trust Tennessee.
But obviously the pure numbers have been so dominant with
them that's probably you know. I'm not looking at faith
them either.

Speaker 1 (02:20:45):
So if that's where you are in Tennessee, which I
totally understand, where are you on Ohio State because you
were talking earlier about the fact that they played literally nobody.

Speaker 3 (02:20:53):
Yeah, well look Ohio State, and well they played in
Marshall today and I mean looks. I mean they're laying around.
I think it's around what he points or so Ohio
State does not look It's funny. I've been a tad
disappointed with Ohio States so far and how they've looked.
I don't eve think they look I have a couple
of these games against bad teams that let the teams
hang around the first half, but they still have such

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an impressive roster. In my opinion, the team I've been
most impressed with, which I don't think this is a
surprise anyone has been in Texas. Uh, that's the team
right now today that I think has like sort of
speak Book of the Eye the Tiger, so to speak.
The team to me that right now has obviously potentially
arguably the two best quarterbacks in college football. Maybe it's
not impossible to say that Ohio State is going to
make the playoffs. I think they're going to win the

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Big Ten. I think they're going to be a very
tough out. But have not been quite as impressed with
them as I thought I would be.

Speaker 2 (02:21:44):
Ask you about or you're a Michigan guy, what orgy
the books? Still you still even know? Could he throw
cand he throw it where? Nobody knows?

Speaker 3 (02:21:54):
Yeah, it's interesting. Look what they used him a not
a lot. But last year, Anthony, he would come in
and uh, and they usually come in to run the
ball like and he would come in and usually and
made a couple of big running plays.

Speaker 2 (02:22:06):
And looking yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:22:09):
Yeah, he helped in a couple of games actually with
a couple individual plays where but again I don't really
remember the letting him pass the ball much. It was
basically just come in there, you have the extra blocker,
and let him run. Now, Davis Warren was just awful,
awful to me. It's just one of those things where
I don't think they could keep playing Davis Warren. I
think Davis Warren was a nice story, but you just

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see he just didn't have the goods, so to speak.
I don't love what he's passing. Vote from nsaid, I
don't know if he has any Like you said, I
don't know if he have any, but I think we
saw that Davis Warren. Look if they run the ball
with Alex Orgi where he runs the ball seventeen times,
I think they have more success than Davis Warren passed
the ball seventeen times. Potentially. I don't think USC is

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nearly as good as texts the line for somewhat carrible.
I think his game is can be close. But again
Michigan's offenses looked so future guys, so futured. And I
do think Lincoln Riley is a better coach than your
own more. I trust Riley much more in a game
like this. But again, Games in the Road is in

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the big house, and again they see it not a
game I personally bet. But again I will say I
don't think Michigan is going to get blown out in
this one at all like they did against SEXT. I
think this game is be a close game.

Speaker 1 (02:23:23):
Is there a heavy favorite today or a favorite in
general that you just don't like, Well.

Speaker 3 (02:23:29):
Well I'm gonna flip it on you and give you one.
I really have a favorite I do like if that's okay, sure,
I really like l s U against UCLA. Two reasons here.
First of all, l s U again, and it seems
like the market is really hating LSU right now. And
look I get it. You know, they lost the first
game to USC. It's a close game, they did lose it.

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And then look they did make a nice comeback winning
in Top Coroline. But the one thing they can do
is score. Okay, they will be able to score. You see,
eight in me has been absolutely like, I think, the
least impressive team of any team I've seen this year.
I honestly I think they've been They played two games
and they've been absolutely instrocious in books. I backed them

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against Hawaii, who's awful. They beat them by a field
goal in Indiana, who's law beat them by thirty points
last week. I just think this team is potentially going
to be like two and ten bad. I think they're
that bad. UCA, I think. And this line has gone
down from twenty four to twenty one. I really think

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this is one of these games and I talk about
the campon all the time that halftime you're going to
see like thirty five seven LSU. I think it's gonna
be one of these games that you're covering at halftime
that kind of after. I know it's a big number,
and I know the market section we're going from twenty
four to twenty one. I don't again, I just personally

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think that the East is really really bad.

Speaker 2 (02:25:00):
Think I'm done. I'm with you. Any any thoughts on
Utah Oklahoma State.

Speaker 3 (02:25:10):
It's interesting that well, that's that's the thing. Like I've
heard some conflicting things on how healthy Cam Rising is okay,
uh and to me, you know, I came Rising to
me is I'm a huge fan of that guy. I
think he's like a total uh really good player and
he's one of my favorite, one of my favorite guys

(02:25:32):
now list the Oklahoma State I've been impressed with. This
line has slipped multiple times because here's what happened. Uh,
there was Utah was about a two point favorite. Then
there was news that came out. I got news. I
didn't play it that potentially Rising was more hurt than
people thought. But I investigated. I didn't necessarily think that.
Now it looks like he's probably gonna be more okay

(02:25:52):
than people think. So it went from Utah being a
slight favorite to Oklahoma State being a slight favorite. Now
it's back to Utah being a slight favorite. Look, I
think this is going to be the probably, in my opinion,
if I could watch one game of an entire card,
this would be the game I'd want to watch. Very
tough game for me. I have a ton of respect
for Utah, I really really do, but I also have

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a lot of respect for Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State defense
is not that good though Gounda usually plays well at home. Look,
I thought this line should be you tall by about
one and a half. You know it's about Utah by
one right now. Great game. I really think it's going
to be a come down to the end. Again, not
a personal game. I bet I will give you another

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college game I do you like And it's a team
to people again, another team that the market doesn't really love,
and that's Colorado. I have backbailed twice, actually cash with
them twice, and they have a good defense, but I
have not been impressed with their offense even a little bit.
I actually think Colorado will be able to handle them offensively,

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and I do think Colorado at home will be able
to win this game. This game is to pick them.
I in Colorado win this game by let's call it
at least a touchdown. So I like Colorado. I think
They've been a little bit undervalued here, and I'm not
not been that impressed with Daale because I've actually watched
them very closely both these games and have not come

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away impressed from either either performance.

Speaker 1 (02:27:20):
All right, so let's switch to the NFL for a
minute here, because everybody's survivor pools are all dead. Yeah,
I mean, this is just it feels unprecedented. Is it unprecedented?
Like it just feels like this year has been a
weird and wild start.

Speaker 3 (02:27:33):
It's interesting. I think I heard a stat that this
is the first time in NFL history, if if you
listen to this, there's not been a double digit favorite
in the first three games in the NFL season. Okay,
I mean, like think about that. I mean it just
there's the parody, you know, back in the day, Peter Roselle,
I want parody. I mean, yeah, for me, the top

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I've never seen it like this, Like usually I do
power rikings for every team. This is the lowest I've
ever had like a top team ranked, Like, I think
that the difference between being an average team and the
best team NFL is the lowest it's ever been as
of today. I mean, things can flip obviously as of today.
So yeah, to answer your question, yeah, I mean this

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is that obviously makes things like Survivor Pulls way harder
because you know, you're looking for a team that can
get margins, can get spread. Uh, those games are harder
to find now, they really really are.

Speaker 2 (02:28:29):
Yeah, I do. I'm with you. It's the parodies there,
the defenses there, It's it's a sea change, like the
kind of back in the day. Like it's it's pretty interesting,
all right. So let's go through a couple of games
that you may like. I know you're like, I love Houston.

(02:28:51):
You and I we don't. It's funny on Friday's Brains
with me on my local show, and we don't go
over at fits Go. I love the Texans. We both
love the Jets. He had a big coin on the Jets.

Speaker 3 (02:29:10):
I do it's funny if the Texans and it's intertting.
Two of my biggest buy on teams before the year
with the Vikings and the Texans, so and I really
had a feeling that Donald with O'Connor, who is going
to play the best he's played in his career, which
I guess isn't saying much because he hasn't only done
anything in his career, but he's really, through two games,
looked much more impressive than he looked at any point

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in his career. I really like what Minnesota is doing,
I truly do, but I think Houston's in a different class.
I think Houston right now, in my opinion, would be
my pick to go to the super Bowl out of AFC.
I just love how they're set up. I love now
they don't have Joe Mixon this one, which I think
will hurt them a little bit. Cam Akers is to
me a legitimate downgrade there, but I just think the
infrastructure with those two receivers in that quarterback, I just

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think they're a better team in Minnesota. Not say it's
gonna be a blowout, but I thought the fine should
have been at least a field goal. I really do.
And I think Houston is just I really liked them
only laying one and a half points. I think that
line is at least a point and a half too short. Well,
it's probably what I got there is my best game
of the week.

Speaker 1 (02:30:10):
What are you doing with the Chiefs without Isaiah pa Checko?

Speaker 3 (02:30:12):
Now, you know it's funny like the Chiefs, I got
to tell you. Look, they got it. Look, well, I
thought they deserved to beat Baltimore. I did the game
last week. I felt they were massively outplayed. I felt
they got They got a defensive touchdown on a flute play.
That pass interference on fourth and sixteen, well, I guess

(02:30:35):
it was technically pass interference. It was it was an
unnecessary penalty by the defensive back and they should have
lost that game. Stone coach should have lost it. I
downgraded the Chiefs in my rankings point in a half
and I think losing to Checko is a huge loss.
I thought he was the second most important aspect of
their team last year in getting to the Super Bowl.

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Now they have a pote prie of guys like with
you know, Smash t Ryan, potentially kareem On, potentially Carson Steel.
But I don't know if any of them. I know,
not Manio as good as but Checko. I know that
for a fact, and I think that's going to hurt
this Chiefs team. The Marquis bounce now out for the season,
Kelsey and me looks a lot slower than he was
last year. Now the face thing a Falcons team I

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don't think is all that great. But this line opened
to the up look at line was like five. It's
down to three. Listen. I think it's gonna be a
tight game at three and a half. I definitely lean Atlanta,
but I don't think the Chiefs are. Yeah, I'm not
as optimistically necessarily going forward. I think they're gonna I
think this injury is going to hurt them be quite
a bit. I really really do. I think this is

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a bad injury for them. Uh one that I don't
think they're able going to be able to afford because
I don't think they have anyone to replace him as
anywhere nearly as good, and I think the way they
used him, it's just I think it's a really really
gaggerable loss for them. Unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (02:31:52):
I give us some other games you like and maybe
see crops mix it up.

Speaker 3 (02:31:59):
Yeah, I like I like Green Bad. I'm sorry Tennessee
Tennessee again. Screen Bay laying two and a half points.
I'm pretty confident, Jordan, what's not gonna play? Guys, And
to me, Malik Willis potentially is as bad as any
story in quarterback will be playing in all Sunday, especially
Bright Shoung is out and I ain't gonna see really

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the h TO two team that should have been to
and oh they outplayed the Jets, they outplayed the Bears.
Levis made two brain cramps that cost some those games.
Really like this Titans team. I think they win this
game by double digits. I don't think it's gonna be
that close. Lower scoring game obviously, but I really like
the Titans quite a bit. I'll give you another game.

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But the Rams forty nine Ers game, Look, this is
I mean the forty nine ers are potentially missing. I mean,
I again, this is like a hoozo who's out? The
forty nine ers penture to be missing, McCaffrey, deebo Kittle,
Bosa Ward. I again, it's like the next man up thing.
I know that Rams are missing the two receivers. I

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get it, and looking, yeah, iither, but they are getting
one of their guys back off suspension, one of the starters.
But yeah, listen, both teams are just deafnained interest. But
to me, uh, this line before the year probably have
been close to three and a half. I think the
injuries are probably more more so for San Francisco than
the Rams. Vanning, I think seven is just too much.

(02:33:24):
I do. I think it's too much, and I personally
think that the Rams can keep them winning a touchdown.
I know they were absolutely got awful L's weich, I
get it, but I just sick with all the injuries
to this forty nine Ers team. I don't like the
forty nine Ers are that good right now? I really don't.
I say the game is a close game, and you
want to give me a touchdown, I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:33:43):
Gonna gladly take it, all right, I like it, buddy,
good stuff. Listen, best of luck to you. Keep cashing
those bitcoins, man, all right.

Speaker 3 (02:33:52):
I like the and Teezers. Also. I like the Bengals.
Everyone in Teezers. He's them down from minus seven last one.
They'll fully expect Joe Burrow on Prime playing out of
the game and to beat Washington easily. You can take
down like twenty games. You can seese them with, and
the Bengals will be the game that I would look
to anchor those teasers.

Speaker 2 (02:34:08):
Love it good stuff there. He is the brain at
brad'sbet dot Com fitting. I'll be right back Fellas on Fox. Hey,
welcome back everybody, Fellas fitsy cuz wrapping up the show again.
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in the iHeartRadio app, Buddy, Uh, give me the things
that you're looking forward to the most this weekend. The
fact that you guys could go two and one, I
guess is number one, right.

Speaker 1 (02:35:09):
I mean, look, the opportunity to watch a game that
I feel good about like, and then let's be honest,
like one week at a time when your team is
stunk for a long time, but the Raiders have the
Panthers this week, then then they get the Browns after that.
Brown's a good team. But I don't trust the Browns quarterback.
Then they get the Broncos, Steelers rams. I mean, they've
got some winnable games ahead of them like this, This

(02:35:30):
football team, by coming back in that fourth quarter, have
given themselves a real opportunity. So yes, I am most excited, obviously,
but I think you know, there's this The most compelling
game of the weekend, no matter what sport we're talking about,
is definitely the Ravens and the Cowboys, because I mean
you're talking about two teams with Super Bowl expectations that
are both really up against the wall at this point.

(02:35:50):
That's unexpected this early in the season to be talking
about that.

Speaker 2 (02:35:55):
Yeah, I know, oh in two and obviously the Cowboys,
who looks so good Week one, get absolutely destroyed at
home like that was that felt like Green Bay all
over again.

Speaker 1 (02:36:08):
I mean, if the Cowboys are one and two or
the Ravens are zero and three, it's gonna be absolute panic.
I mean absolute panic from everybody that thought that these
were gonna be two huge Super Bowl contenders, you know
what I mean, And I know it's early. Frankly, I'm
not here for any of the Bengals talk because they
do this to us every year and the end of
their schedules soft. So like the Bengals gonna be just fine,

(02:36:29):
But watching these teams sort of implode with their own
problems and bad coaching, particularly like we spent so much
time talking about bad play. Bad coaching has been an
epidemic early in this NFL season.

Speaker 2 (02:36:42):
I know, man, it's true your spot on. Let me
ask you all of it. Monday Night's are first doubleheader
Monday Night I love those. I think they should be
a regular. Are you in or out?

Speaker 1 (02:37:00):
East Coast guy and me, I'm out. I'm out. I
don't need I don't need to be split in my focus.
I don't need to be up even later on Monday Night.
I'm out. Plus, the more we the the more we
take away from Sundays the worst. The Sunday afternoon games
are I just like a Sunday afternoon that's just yoked
with great football.

Speaker 2 (02:37:17):
Really, so you think that one game, the one Addie game,
the Monday night just kind of it's.

Speaker 1 (02:37:24):
One more Monday and Sunday, and then we stack all
these games Sunday early, and then all of a sudden,
the Sunday four pm. It's like two games. Makes me sad.
I like a lot of games. Sunday afternoon, that's the best.

Speaker 3 (02:37:42):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (02:37:43):
I love it. I get it, I get it. I
do love the Monday night. And there's two good games, right,
I mean yeah, I mean like Cincinnati and Washington, Buffalo
and Cincinnati. So I like, I'm interested in the Bills
and I'm interested in Cincinnati. See, I have a great day.
You enjoyed the games. We love your good luck Raiders everybody.

(02:38:05):
We'll see you next week.

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