The Fellas with Anthony Gargano & Jason Fitz discuss the Christmas Games, Chiefs Dominance, College Football Playoff Quarterfinal Preview & MORE!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Speaker 3 (00:53):
Good morning, Fitsie. How was How was Christmas?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
My brother, Christmas is always magical? How was the what
is the seventh the sea of fishes? What do we
call this again? Like the eighty seven course fish meal?
That the feast of.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
The fish, feast of this?

Speaker 1 (01:09):
I was close. I was the feast of the seven fishes.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
I was good, buddy, it was good. Miss.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
I gotta get you here, yeah you can, seriously, next year,
I gotta get you.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Come down. Man, you're too close to you got to
be able to come and hang.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
You know, you have such a magical and yes, I
would love that. And also, I don't know, it just
always hits me at Christmas time because so often, you know,
people get overwhelmed by their families, and look for years,
I did too. I think we all do. You get
overwhelmed by your family sometimes at the holidays. But I
just always find myself sitting back and saying, you know,
as overwhelming as it is, I just remind everybody every year,

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and I'm that guy, and it annoys people. I'm like,
there's gonna be some time in life where you're gonna
turn around and you're not gonna have this massive family gathering.
So like, I don't know, my heart's always full of appreciation,
even for the annoying cousin that you just wish would
shut up. I'm just to that guy that sits there
and says, hey, someday, you're gonna wake up one day
and say, man, I really miss the chaos of that
that environment. So I find myself appreciating it and telling

(02:08):
people all the time he is annoying as your mom is.
By day three, it's it's still, you know, better than
the alternative, just just just a little reminder.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Oh it's perspective, man, that's that's so so poignant and
so spot on.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
And it's funny.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
You know, every year we do this thing because there's
a lot of prep work that goes into play in
the house, and you know, we're disheveled. I don't know,
you know, like everybody, uh we think we're like we
look around and go, oh my god, everybody's got it
together and we don't, right, like we you know, the
house is a mess, the kids, you know, just keeping
up every day with.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
The kids and everything.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
And so to to do the party, my wife freaks
out right like she's you know, she's out of her mind,
clean every nothing in the cranny in the house, and
you know what we're doing, We're doing all stuff and
it's like high stress. She's like, never again, never again,
you know, And.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Then we do it. You know, it's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
And the next thing, know, it's you know, three in
the morning and her and I are sitting there and
she's like, you know, it was great. And every year
we say the same thing, and it was beautiful. Yeah,
glad it's over, But it was beautiful as it was
going on. And then Christmas Day is nice and shell
so it's it's it was a it was a nice night.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
How was how impressive, by the way, I know what
we got off to get to today? How impressive was Netflix?
As as jaded as I was going into this thing
after the way they blew the fight and I thought
it was going to be terrible. I thought Netflix broadcast
of Christmas Day games, I mean, I don't know what
they did for that screen quality to get it like that,

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but my god, like it just looked amazing. And I
thought their camera work looked amazing. Yeah, clarity of the
shots were great, like the overall broadcast, just I think
it puts several broadcast to shame. I thought Beyonce was
absolutely killer in that halftime. So that was a super
Bowl halftime show for a Christmas Day game, Like, I
just look, I know there's there was plenty of doubt

(04:11):
about that coming in, but man, I thought, I thought
Netflix just crushed that thing on Christmas Day.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, you know, I was going to bring the number
up to here because I think you're right. I had
some weird buffering issues. I'm not sure, okay if it's
me though, because most people did not and I'm like,
maybe I need to upgrade my system or whatever.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm not the most tech savvy, right, I thought cable right,
you know, I respect that, you know, so maybe it's
something along those lines.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I don't know. Maybe it was my own doing.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I got to get upgraded, like from comcasts because I
stole my routers old And maybe.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
But to your point, yeah, I mean the camera work
and the production, uh was just excellent and Netflix killed it.
I will say this, sixty five million people watched Christmas
Day two games. Now they were both bad games. However,

(05:16):
you had Mahomes and Lamar and so you had two
stars and they played terrific. They were great, and I
just I go nothing. I was having this conversation the
other day. I'm like, sixty five million people watching the
NFL on Christmas Day? When do we ever have any

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shared experience? I mean, these are Super Bowl type of numbers.
Sixty five million. It's crazy. It's a staggering number to
five right, five million people watch the NBA compared to
sixty five bouts in the NFL. And you think about
the sheer volume of those numbers and all they did

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was take two games from Sunday and put them on Wednesday,
and people ate it up.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, and it look I think it speaks to and
the fact that the NBA was trying to turn around
and say, well, look, our numbers are up to our
numbers are up too, and it's like that's a problem.
Like that's a problem that your numbers are up and
you're trying to praise that and you're getting your buck
kicked that way. I mean, this is just this is
the NFL showing you exactly who they are. They're just
they're the bully on the block. And you know, it

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felt special. It did. I'll be honest, like, I wondered
if you know, this would feel like just you know,
for all the people like, oh, the NFL is taken
over another day for no good reason. I wondered if
it would feel like that, And I didn't think it did.
I felt like it truly to me, felt like a
special kind of like Thanksgiving just has a different feel.
Everything about that broadcast felt like it had a different feeling.

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Guess what if Netflix is getting in the sports game,
that's gonna be a game changer. I mean, because the
other part of it is not just the number of
people watching, but over two hundred countries. Like it is
apparent that the NFL is focused on international growth, just
like the NBA has for years, Right, the NFL is
growing with this international series. Part of what they wanted

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was over two hundred countries across the world watching that
game in that moment. That's just that's that's a home
run for the league if you can get those sorts
of numbers all over the world watching it. And yeah,
neither of those games weren't necessarily what anybody wanted them
to be, but the fact is it didn't matter. It
just had that Christmas Day This is special. You're sitting

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down with your family watching feel and it's you know,
at this point, the NFL is cemented that they're going
to be the Christmas tradition moving forward, just like Thanksgiving
Day is an important day. I will be looking at
the calendar every year excited for what the Christmas Day
game is going to be.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, I think the only change that they'll make is
the lads and like game, I think that's it.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
You think they will, you think they'll they'll we'll go on.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
I think, Yeah, I'm surprised.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
They didn't this year. Honestly, like, why have too and
not have that third?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
I think it was.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
It was a soft kind of happening on a Wednesday, right,
because look what you had to do, right, You had
to play those games on a Saturday. You can only
have four You had to have four teams and then
mix them up, right, so all four teams played on
Saturday to make it Wednesday. Now next year it's Christmas

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falls on a Thursday. So you ain't got to worry
about that. You got three days, right, You're good to go.
You got three games. You're not gonna have amazon dude,
be the be the Christmas Night one.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Oh my god, Yeah, that's actually you're one thousand percent right.
And then just think about the fact that, look, we
had frankly, we had two Wednesday games that were we
had a Thursday night game that was painful. We have
three Saturday games by the time we get to Sunday,
and then Sunday night and Monday night. By the time
we get to this Sunday on what is a particularly
pitiful slate of games this weekend, there are a lot

(09:03):
of bad games, and they're all very like Sunday one
pm and four pm. Those games stink. There's just a
lot of games that stink, and we're still gonna flock
to it, like it's pretty amazing. You and I last
week on air were saying how excited we were, rightfully so,
for the college football Playoff, and the question was could
they compete and the answer was they they didn't. I mean,
we all saw the TV numbers, like the NFL went
out and beat the first round of the college football

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Playoff for the first time that we've ever seen the
college football player.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
What was the what was the ft? I didn't see
the numbers.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
I guesst of it here. It was I think the
night games were around fourteen million, which is good, but
the Saturday games that were up against the NFL specifically
did like six million to the NFL's fourteen to fifteen million.
They didn't even do half. They didn't even do half
of the NFL's number.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, you know, and I wonder if those games were
more competitive, had you know, would that change a bit?

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Right? I don't know?

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, I mean that's where where like the the at
least the Notre Dame in Ohio State games, because they
weren't up against an NFL game, did Okay, numbers. But yeah,
I mean, let's be real, we got blowouts, which, frankly,
if you were listening to the Fellas last Saturday, I
think we told you you were gonna get to mostly blowouts.
Guess what I think this college football playoff, we're gonna

(10:19):
get mostly blowouts. This is just the matchups aren't right
this year. And that's because the seating wasn't what like.
And for all the people that are like, well, you
guys keep complaining about the seating, well, it gave us
terrible matchups. I mean, it's just like fun matchups brand wise,
but these were gonna be the blowouts. And that's sort
of the price the cost of doing business when you
do business this way. So you know, I don't know

(10:41):
what everybody expected.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, and I'm one.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I was having a kind of sure, what a buddy
of mine because I love ball seas.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
I do.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I love ball seats. It sounds stupid, but I always
love the balls, right, and it's their dad. He's like,
dude balls, But man, big nick big knicks like balls
are dead.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
I can't be.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Big actually huge, like or is he is that just
a nickname?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Like big tall? No, he's like six five six four.
I want a big nick to be ironic, but that's okay,
now big Knicks literal. He's big Nikki. Yeah, Nikki Primos.
He owns a sandwich. Uh well I was.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Before you said what he owned. I was like, that's
the name of a guy that owns a deli. That's Oh,
that's amazing, Nicky Nicki Primos, That's that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah. Yeah, so it was.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
So we're talking about this and he's right, like, you know,
like they completely guess what. I've actually still watched and
enjoyed the hell the usc A and M game last night.
It was freaking awesome. Watson Cole McCord was awesome. It
was great.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
The Toledo pickame was really really good, all the.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Brawls in the Toledo picking. Two games that don't have
two teams that don't have historic rivalries sat there and
fought their way through a bowl game and we're talking
too fool games don't matter. I'm like, that's amazing to me.
That's supposed to be the moment where teams are like, nah,
I'm out, and instead, nope, they were fighting the whole way.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I mean, I just think like I listen, they got
to fix the We know this, everybody said it. Everybody's
on top of it. You got to fix the portal.
You can't have free agents like it be like NFL
have a free agency the first week of the playoffs.
Like you can't do that, right, right, you know, it's ridiculous.
So they got to number one. Fix that, fix the seeds,

(12:42):
like they know what they have to do, Like they
know they completely screwed up. But it's all right because
this was needed to happen so they could actually fix
it and get it right. And I mean, I just
think once you fix the portal and get the dates right,
fix the seating, and get the format right, you're gonna

(13:03):
be good. The only thing that scares me is what's
it going to take to fix the portal because everybody sues, right,
so you know, we can have this whole conversation that hey,
we're gonna move the portal back and we're gonna stop
with the pretense about semesters and getting in. Every school

(13:24):
is gonna be in on it, and they'll have to
agree that the kid is allowed in the second semester,
no matter when it falls. Blah blah blah blah, blah.
But all it takes is for somebody to sue and
that's the end of it.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Right, And that's I mean, hell, we're seeing that with
eligibility requirements to the quarterback for and Andy suing saying that
Juco shouldn't count for his requirements, and you know, everybody
backing down and saying, okay, you know, yeah, we're seeing
this all the time. And you're right that that's there
are times, you know, as much as you know collective
bargaining and agents and these sorts of things to become

(14:01):
nasty words. Part of the reason that collective bargaining is
good for the players and the leagues is because it
allows everybody to figure out how to move forward and
get things negotiated in a way that doesn't result in
an individual lawsuit every time it happens. College football doesn't
have that advantage, so you're right, right, everybody just suits
and they win every time. So yeah, this isn't about fanom.
It's about legality at this point, and that's a weird

(14:23):
concept for everybody to sort of wrap their heads around,
you know. But yeah, I mean, certainly there are things
to fix. I feel like this is the this is
the nerdy moment of the college football calendar and playoff
where there's somebody in the room and well, guys, I
told you this was gonna happen, but nobody wanted to
believe it. You can only make so much change it once.
We do have to have a little understanding that you know,

(14:44):
everybody's dealing with the new format, new system and some
things that were inevitable. But you also sort of have
to see it and practice before you can freak.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Out exactly, like you know, like they'll fix it, like
I rerat'll get a handle on it and it'll get
but it's still awesome, I'll tell you, Like I still
think everything's grown. I think it's I think it's bigger.
The NFL thing is is just amazing. You know, Like

(15:15):
there's three games today and like you said, we'll just.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Consume the hell out of that, okay, And you know, and.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Then tomorrow everybody will watch in Minnesota Green Bay, and
everybody will watch the Sunday night game even though it's
not that good, and everybody will watch Monday night. It's
it's unbelievable how that sport captivates us.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
It just it does.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
It's and listen, like I know, the NBA and the
NBA gets back up and this and that, but let's
be real here for a second. I mean these games,
they just don't matter in the NBA, the regular season games.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
I did to watch a minute of the NBA action
on Christmas Day, and that's not an NBA fan. It's
just like by the time I watched football, then I
had other things to do and I was like, okay,
I mean it was still Christmas, so it was like,
you know, there's this moment for me where it's like
and also frankly for all the people like oh Lebron
and Steph for the draw, Yeah, I guess, but I

(16:19):
mean I don't know, Like I'm just sort of tell
me why I should care, like as you know, and
for anyone that's about to hit me with, I just don't.
I don't love ball. As you know, I'm a hockey fan.
I haven't paid a single second of attention to to hockey.
Right now, I'm going to cover college basketball, and when
I cover college basketball, I will start with everybody. So

(16:40):
like this dirty little secret, but like you know, I
was out on the road with Game Day for a
year and I watched Reese start, you know, Reese Davis
is better than anybody, so much of this stuff, and
watching Reese try and ballots the last three weeks of
the college football season where he's cramming college basketball at
the same time, it was really just it was art.
Like the fact is that nobody's paying atten right now

(17:00):
of college basketball. I love it, but nobody's paying attention
to it. I'll have a game on in the background
that I don't even care about the final score, but
I'm not sitting there like absorbing it. So when we
get to the playoffs and there's less football to consume,
then I'll do what I do every year, like I'll
start going back and watching all the college basketball. I
can't get ready for March madness, Like that's that's because
that's my job. Like I don't, I just don't know.

(17:22):
You know at this point, how the NBA cuts through
when it's impossible to make it. It is impossible to
give Christmas Day games meaning other than well, this is
a fun little exhibition and that that's not.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Worth it to me, now I know, I mean, you
know again, I think it runs into the same issues
about devaluing the regular season. Now the game needs to
be fixed. You know, they sold their soul. And again
I go back to it because you know, it wasn't

(17:54):
always like that. Jordan watching Mike, Michael Jordan and the ball.
I covered those games. I mean I was a reporter
and I would cover the Christmas Day games in Chicago
United Center, and those games mattered, like those games felt
like Eventschris.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
You know, Bulls.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Knicks Christmas Day was always fun and everybody watched it.
Now was that because there was no football or because
Bulls Knicks was better? I do think the product was
way better. The game is a better game.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
And also not for nothing, but for a long time,
you couldn't see Michael Jordan every single night of the week.
You couldn't see so like because there wasn't the same
if you lived in Vegas like I lived in you know,
all over the country growing up, so it wasn't like
for me. I actually was was a huge Lakers fan
as a kid, and you know, going across country when
I moved to the East Coast. Part of what made

(18:54):
those Lakers Celtics matchups so cool was like I couldn't
see the Lakers every game. That didn't exist, like hello, kids,
there was a life pre internet and we didn't have
these six and so a you knew how important the
matchups were be you couldn't see them every day. So
like it felt like America sort of flocked to it
now that there is just constant you can get every game,

(19:14):
even without the NBA League Pass, you can get pretty
much every important game throughout the course of it. It
just it makes it tough for all of these things
make it tougher to make people care about this one game.
And also, as we've talked about a million times, the
players don't play like they give a damn most of
the time. So I mean, it's just I'm just being honest,
I don't feel that every you know, yeah, that is.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
The game itself, Like watching Mike.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I hate to tell God, I hate doing this with Kobe,
you know, I hate talking about you know, Kobe and
deifying how it was back then, you know, but it's true,
like those games were exciting.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
I mean, you know, in my mind's eye, I.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Just remember Kobe playing like it was the playoff game
and not not wanting to lose.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
I just don't get that vibe.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
And it just maybe it's just because it's just too
easy to just jack up threes and that's the game.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
And I know they get their back up and the
commissioner gets his back up about it, but he's presided.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
And look, they're making money.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
But if that's all you care about and that's how
you measure success, then fine. But the game is not
well and he can bristle at it all he wants,
bristle at the media. Oh it's old haters, this and
that nonsense. It's not as good.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, And all you have to do is watch it
and feel like sometimes if you're defending it and you're
just yelling and screaming into it into the clouds, you
got to look around and say, Okay, what is actually
happening here? And how do I Like they always say
in business, you got to figure out who your customers
are and what your customers actually want. Sometimes I question
if the NBA has actually took it, taking a look

(20:59):
at it and say, hey, what do our customers actually want? Analytics?
Then I'm not the guy that yells and screams about
analytics typically, but analytics figuring out the value of the
three and devaluing the two has become such an interesting
part of the change in basketball because I understand why
it's the right strategy, but my god, it just seeing
the way they you know, inappropriate play now in basketball,

(21:22):
it's the same sort of play that people used to
scream in the gym. Oh my god, don't shoot that.
So like it's crazy to me, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
I know. Let's say quick, Teo will come right back.

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Speaker 2 (21:54):
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Speaker 1 (21:58):
I don't know, man, I missed the I missed the
Christmas music. Yeah, dude, Market Mighty, Mark's doing the right thing.
I just, oh, you know, I don't know. I'm not
ready to give up, buck, Can I be honest with
you too? Like Frank, the the Frank Sinatra Christmas Channel
in Serious six M turns into forties junction after after
the Holidays, where it's all like forties, big bad music.

(22:19):
I keep that on for like a month. I'm still
listening to like hazy forties music half the time when
I'm driving around, So what get that flipping a wall
to traffic. I'm listening to that. Just so you know.

Speaker 6 (22:28):
I got a dirty look from Tom Hagen next to me,
making sure I didn't play any Christmas music. That's all
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Wow, Well, when does Christmas music come off from the
gargan a hosshole?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
I mean no, I don't know. To me, it's posts,
it's gotta it's after New Year's. I think it's still.
I think it still should exist until at least after
New Year's. I mean, I'd like to leave my lights
up in the at the end of January.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
I still my lights on.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
I mean, I'm not taking the tree down until probably
you know, I'll take the tree down while I'm watching
the AFC Championship Game sort of thing like that.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
That's yeah, like, yeah, yes, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Love the glove.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Like I don't understand that. What's the hurry? I don't
know these people like a January second, Oh my god,
what's the hurry?

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Like?

Speaker 3 (23:24):
January blows?

Speaker 1 (23:26):
It sucks.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
The winter's horrible if you live in the in the
Midwest or the Northeast.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
All right, it sucks. There's no one No, it's gloomy.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
And dark and dreary, like cold lights make it festive,
like you know, for your own psyche until you don't
fall into depression.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
I leave him in, I leave them out.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, Like who's rushing to get back to whatever? Like
I've got all year to listen to the same music
that we all listen to all year long. Like and
then I always laugh, like say thing I say when
people are like Audi, already have your Christmas lights up?
Like why are we trying to shorten of all the
seasons to shorten? Why would you try and shorten Christmas?
Like there's a joy to the whole thing, Like there's

(24:11):
there's supposed to it's supposed to be about, you know,
all of this like family coming together and friends and
love and all this is like wow, you know, but
don't let that go into into January goes. I mean,
why why why? Why? Why are we a rush to
move on?

Speaker 2 (24:24):
I'm not in a rush, no, dude, I'm with you.
In fact, Mark, are you under some edict that you
can't play Christmas music?

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Now?

Speaker 6 (24:33):
I would just always say by co workers giving you
a look, don't do it.

Speaker 7 (24:37):
No, no, no no, I did not say a look.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Reason the classic I'm twenty watt br twenty thirty one,
thirty I'm old.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
No you're not all right, no no no.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
So you're in that classic mode where it's pre family
for you, right, and you're around your single, you're doing
your thing, and how they they don't mean as much.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
I mean, I'm all everybody goes through.

Speaker 7 (25:07):
It's thick in December, that was my thing, right, it
was like after Thanksgiving, like as soon as December first hit,
go for the Christmas music. I'm all for that. December one,
December twenty fifth, lovely Christmas music. Love that. But December
twenty sixth, it's not Christmas anymore. There's no more Christmas
to look for.

Speaker 6 (25:24):
Seasy, it's a season. It's a they sing about the season,
the lights, they sing about.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Genius, the.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
Right, they still slay, rides in the snow if you
have snow, it's a season.

Speaker 7 (25:42):
I'm all for deation, like.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
I wish it was Christmas every day. Well, if you
can't sing that song, if you're trying to turn the
music off on the twenty six now, I'll be an
old man. For a minute, because unlike I'm actually old
and so one thing that I always remember is when
I was a kid again pre internet people, which means
there was no serious or anything for like any of
us to get through to to listen to Christmas music.
The only real shot you had was if you own

(26:06):
records or tapes, you put those on in your house,
and then the local station there was always one that
would flip over to Christmas music the day before Christmas
eve Day, and they'd flip over, and at noon on
Christmas they would stop, like they would go back to
being regular music. So maybe because when I was a kid,
you had to hunt for this stuff so much. I
sit there, I'm like, man, I don't want it to stop,
because like it was the worst. When you're like you

(26:28):
barely opened your presence and you're like, all right, it's
noon and we're now back to, you know, whatever was
popular at the time. We're not back. I don't I
don't want that, you know, I don't know why I.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Pulled out these rules. You know, I'm with you. I'm
completely with Mark.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Play the Christmas music every door and all the breaks.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
You know, Mark, you can play Christmas music in June
and I wouldn't fault your money.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
It just means that you have I'm listening to what
you both are saying. But there's somebody giving me a look.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I all due respect, I'm not giving a look.

Speaker 7 (27:05):
I am staring at my computer.

Speaker 8 (27:07):
That's all I'm saying, all due respect.

Speaker 7 (27:10):
No, you guys, stay president man, it's your name on
the show. I'm just giving my.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
You know we're a team.

Speaker 7 (27:17):
Yes, it's the most wonderful time of the year, but
you know that's fine.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
I like to make sure I get out with both
of my eyes.

Speaker 7 (27:27):
No, am I capable of that? Do you guys think
I'm capable?

Speaker 1 (27:30):
You know me?

Speaker 7 (27:30):
Would I do that?

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (27:31):
We do know? You do.

Speaker 7 (27:33):
I know I'm a sweet Oh gosh, no, have you
heard my voice? Could I honestly be capable of such
an action?

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Like you may look sweet and non threatening, but inside
you're Joe Peshion intimidation.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
Thank you, but I'm not going to get that for that.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
There's a whole network dedicated to investigative ID is totally
dedicated to all the sweet and kind people that ended
up killing like eighteen of their boyfriends and spot Yeah,
like Snap is living breathing proof that you never know.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
You just never know.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Snapping.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yes, my wife used to be obsessed.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
She'd watched and then and then the next day she
she I'd say, hey, what's wrong with you?

Speaker 3 (28:22):
You?

Speaker 2 (28:22):
You are you think of craziness, like you're watching these shows.
Not everybody's a crazy well.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
You never know, taking notes, you never know what you know,
that's what they're doing small a Strict nine every day,
like you hear these quiet you hear these crazy cases.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
And he was feeding her. He was putting the Strict
nine in her mourning tea every day, and she was
growing sick er, unaware of what was going on.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I'm convinced people are taking notes and they're like, all right,
so not that much Strict nine? How did they not
get away? Okay? So I need it right. We're educating
the next the next it's like behind the music for
How to Kill Your exactly.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
There was this, There was the what was that show?
My god?

Speaker 1 (29:09):
His the g Robert Stack was the voice on.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Oh that was great.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
No, it was, oh my god. We used to watch
it all the time. Oh my god. I be like,
oh my god. But the guy's voice was great. He
did the narration. It was one of those types.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Of shows like Dateline. Date Lines got a great narrative
voice on it too.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yes, yes it was like that, but it was Forensic
Files that was it.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Oh, Forensic Files used to be my my. Like when
when I was touring and I'd be in a random
hotel and you can't sleep in the middle of the night.
You always knew that Forensic Files was going to be
on some random whatever news network. Oh God, I have
fallen asleep to Forensic Files.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
And how about it. That guy's voice is the greatest.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yes, yes, that is a great call by you.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah, we still love that guy.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Now I have my wife falls asleep to the British
Baking Show. Her at my at mosmo, my little one.
They love the British Baking Show. They'll have that one.
I'll be watching a football game. I'll go upstairs to
two and them British Baking Show. And now we're going

(30:22):
to have this. You know what, I can't even do
the accent and the show and the next thing, you know,
three seconds later, the dead asleep. I'm waking the other one,
the big one up and carrying his room. And now
you need the truck, you know, a crane. It's funny.
It's it's funny. Yeah, we do it. Uh so are
we clear, Brie? Are we good? Do we have your blessing?

Speaker 7 (30:45):
Yes, father son? Christmas music, go for it, Holy Spirit.
We are ready to go jingle bell rock, even though
there's no more jingle belling to do.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Okay, But you understand the concept of the season, right, Oh, I.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
Wonderful time of the year. I love that. That's a
great song. It's the most wonderful time of the year,
because that's not Christmas, y, that's a season, like you said, right,
there's so there's different types of Christmas music.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
That's But if I'm dashing through the snow, can't I
still be dashing through the snow all through? Like in theory,
I can weather snow in one horse open sleigh for
for months at a time.

Speaker 7 (31:24):
Acceptable, there's no I don't mention.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
I don't even think frosty.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Don't if frost snow, Frosty exists.

Speaker 7 (31:30):
Frosty. Yes, but rude off. See, that's no good because
the Christmas is over. There's no more Rudolf.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Rudolf is gone, so like he works his tail off
and then we don't even appreciate.

Speaker 7 (31:41):
Him at about you guys, he's getting a toe.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Oh my god, you can't risk that red nose.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Really, that's the last thing he's doing. He's relaxed now
by the fire Pinia Kolada.

Speaker 7 (31:55):
You guys, Bloody Mary's to match the red nose. Oh
my gosh, we saw it. We thought.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
By the way, the Travolta Santa Claus is still the greatest.
Santa Claus.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
That was the best idea for commercial to have them
dancing in the Santa suit.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
The greatest. Yeah, they did a killer job on that.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
He was great.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
He was I think he's the He's a great he
was the best stand of all the Sanders. He's strong.
Sand Andy Ree was there too. Speaking of which, we
got to talk about them. They are unbelievable. I mean,
you felt the Patriots dynasty was special. Let's talk about

(32:36):
the kiddessity a little bit. Uh, lots of get to
where the Fellaws hanging out, just spreading the joy of
the seas right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Most one time. Oh we're back, baby.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
See all of a sudden, the smiled Hey Mark is
uh is Bree smiling?

Speaker 7 (33:04):
Yes, ill a little bit. Oh this is a good
song because it's a time it's like it's talking about
something broad like a time of the year.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
No, God, that's great, fellas Jason Fitz Anthony Garotta from
the tire rack dot Com studios.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yes, Amy Reid was a great Santa Uh dude, they're better.
They're better than they were last year.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Man.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
They're so good that now you get Hollywood Brown.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Right now you have actual three weapons on the outside
receivers to go with Kelsey and your two running backs.
And they fixed their offensive line by kick about Tony
to tackle. Tony who's a great guard, right they kick

(34:06):
him out to tackle, and they put cali Endo a guard,
and Andy who knows how o line like anybody, like
nobody else fix their old line problems. And now all
of a sudden, their offense is back.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
They suddenly and weirdly, like every every ounce of the
this isn't the same team that we've seen. They're not
that good. Blah blah blah. That's all just melted away,
Like you know, we keep asking for when it's going
to look easy for the Chiefs. So that's the last
couple of weeks. I mean, I don't just know. You

(34:43):
look at this team right now, and I understand Baltimore,
by the way, looks great. I don't want to take
anything away from Baltimore, but also you just look about
the Bills look great. I don't want to take anything
away from these teams. But the fact is, at some
point you just look just the eye tests, the eye test.
This does not match the Chiefs all year, and the
eye test now matches the Chiefs. That's the part of

(35:04):
this that is just suffocating for everybody. If you are
fatigued of Kansas City, this is not going to be
a great year for you. It just isn't. I just
I know that everybody wants to sit here and find
a reason why it's not going to be the same old,
same old, and and heck maybe it won't. You never know.
It's wild in the playoffs. But if your answer is, well,
the Chiefs really aren't that good, that's been the easy

(35:28):
thing so many people have been able to say over
the course of the last how long. And then you
look at what we've seen lately from this team, and
I mean just the absolute demolition of the Texans and
the demolition of the Steelers, like these are teams like
the Steelers were supposed to be according to most of
the Steelers were supposed to be a playoff team. They

(35:48):
went from winning the luckiest games you could possibly imagine
just going out and kicking the snot out of people.
And that's that's just real. Like they are kicking the
snot out of people now.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah, I mean, I guess their margin of victory has
gone up over each of the last three games, or
certainly over the last month. And it just makes sense.
I mean, you bring Hopkins in. Hopkins allows Worthy to
be the gadget big play guy. Then you got Hollywood Brown,

(36:20):
So now all of a sudden, you got two guys
capable of big plays. Hollywood Brown is a perfect mesh
between Hopkins and Worthy. And then, oh, by the way,
Kelsey can still catch the ball, right, so he could
still get open, and he's still posts up and he
can still catch the ball, and you got a running game.
And you've that all works because you've fixed your O
line and you have the best quarterback in football, so

(36:44):
you fixed your old line now. And by the way,
your defense, you have the best defensive coordinator of football.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
So you're good.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
And as much as listen, I love the Bills, and
you know we're falling on ourselves like you said.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
You know, Josh down on the MVP Lamar.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
An MVP candidate too, and look how great he's playing.
And meanwhile, the Chiefs are just they just roll. It's crazy,
you know the other part of it, And they're way
more likable than Abaciro anybody says that the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, And the fact is this is very reminiscent to
me of when the Warriors went on there their run
and everybody just loves Steph through all of that. Like
there's just a likability for this team. And that's coming
from a guy right now as I talk to you
that is wearing a Raiders shirt, a Raiders hoodie, Raiders sweats,
and Raiders shorts, and even I have to step back
and say, man, the hardest part about this is that

(37:38):
Chiefs are so good and so damn likable in the process,
Like that's real. And you know the other part of
it is is you well know, and anybody you talk to,
the guys that played and guys that have been around
locker rooms, like fatigue is a real thing. And it's
easy to look at this Chiefs team and say, man,
how how do you make Week seven matter as much

(37:59):
to them? When they're back to back Super Bowl champions,
and like they know how long the season is. And
it's not that they don't care about a regular season game.
It's just that they know what the real the end
goal is and you just reach a point where you
get numbed all of it. Last year, about this time
was when the Chiefs started to wake up and it
felt like they found that extra gear. All through the playoffs,
it was like, Okay, this is more like the Chiefs.

(38:21):
What do you know? You see that clip in the
locker room of Andy dancing around like Santa and all
the guys celebrating. There's a joy to what they're doing.
They're having fun with what they're doing, and they're getting
charged up. Like this is the time where the Chiefs
hit the next level. Like I know everybody sits here
on social media, it's just why do we constantly kiss
the Chiefs? But because we're seeing one of the greatest,
if not the greatest dynasty will ever see. So that's why,

(38:43):
I mean, that's why.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Facts, Yes, facts, they do it the right way, man,
they do The coach is all has them buttoned up right,
like they just got them buttoned up. You're spot on, man,
you're just you're I don't And instead.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Of instead of hating this entire process, maybe if you
don't have a dog in the fight, even if you're
rooting against him, just step back and just acknowledge, like
you're seeing something that Oh my god, I can't believe
we're seeing this, Like this is this is going to
be different. This is the sort of thing you'll tell
your grandkids about. Like I just just watch the greatness,
soak it in and appreciate it now.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
And I think you're right. I think they're you know, listen,
they're having fun. Bumble Rouski budd Ruski but l Rooski.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Right, it's crazy, you know, it's also crazy to me, Right,
is what it is?

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Man having a They're out there having a bast and
they just kick. You said they out are kicking. It's
not out of people.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
My god.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
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(40:03):
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(40:26):
Bengals and Arizona and the Rams all pretty like matter
right when it comes to the playoff situation, all decent
games sets up tomorrow and there's not a lot of
drama left before the playoffs. But what's going on in
the nc North is freaking awesome. Like we talked about

(40:49):
the Chiefs and how great that story is, the story
of the NFC North is freaking awesome. Like, listen, blessed
the Lions, man, I mean being decimated, right, I mean
we talked about it over and over again, how they've

(41:09):
just been decimated by injuries.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
And you know, listen, they don't miss a beat.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
They going to Chicago, and I know the Bears are
a mess, but they go into Chicago, they take care
of business. Meanwhile, you're gonna have Green Bay and Minnesota
go at it tomorrow. Four twenty five, the lone game,
I mean, this division. Vikes at thirteen and two, the
Lions at thirteen and two. The pack at eleven and four,

(41:38):
those three teams are incredible.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Somebody's gonna finish fourteen and three and end up a
wild card, Like that's just crazy. I know that is
insane to think about. And you know, to your point,
the Lions have withstood incredible injuries to still be where
they are. I think we're all waiting to see if
that will sustain when they have to play the best
of the best. Right, Not that I don't think the

(42:02):
Lions are a great offense, It's just, man, how much
can any team suffer when it comes to injuries on
the defensive side of the ball, and then on the
flip side of it, the Vikings. I mean, you want
to talk about the quietest two loss team I can
remember in a long time, Like nobody feels like it's
sitting there saying, you know, Vikings are a legitimate super
Bowl contender, and they are like that, Not only are

(42:24):
they a legitimate super Bowl contender, but they're in this
weird situation where just let's go back to August when
we weren't sure if JJ McCarthy, yes, yeah, like I
genuinely believe and I've said this repeatedly on my work
on Yahoo Sports. Sam Donald is gonna get franchised at
the end of this year. If he doesn't sign a
deal with the Vikings. Outright, he's gonna get franchised. They're
going to keep Sam Donald. They're not gonna let him

(42:46):
just walk out the door for nothing. But even at that,
even when they franchise him, I think the intent is, man,
we wanted to find a quarterback, and it sures hell
looks like we have So I don't believe they're just
gonna cut bait and see if JJ can play. We
have no idea that it makes the most sense here
for the Vikings to just sit here and say, let's
run it back. Like I believe their coordinators are going

(43:06):
to be back. Like the Vikings are sort of quietly
pressed set in a situation where they could be good
for the next several years doing just what they're doing
right now. And that's given the way that they've gotten
Sam Donald. He had that little funk in the middle
of the season, we were all ready to say, Okay,
is this gonna be Sam Donald broken out of it.
He's playing so well. I think this is such a

(43:27):
perfect match because not only is Minnesota benefiting, but so
Sam Donald, Like, I mean, if I'm Sam, I want
to stay there. Like, look at the way he's viewed
today versus how he was viewed six months ago.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
I mean, let's face it, right, you know, the Jets
were unmitigated disaster. You know that that's dumpster fire franchise.
Carolina was going through it. It was during COVID. I
remember talking to Matt Ruhle, you know, he still had
I asked mad about Donald a while back, and we

(43:59):
were talking at him and he's like, dude, he goes
he could play. I mean we were just you know,
we were up against the COVID situation. We were trying
to establish something. They were looking for some continuity. They
really never had a chance to get that thing off
the ground in Carolina before temper poles to plug.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
And I think that affected him.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
And we're never going to learn right when we talk
about quarterbacks that it's got to be in the right situation,
the right coach, the right system. I mean for guys
to really flourish, Yes.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Is this matter system? Like I just this is such
an easy thing to say, but I got to yell
at for all of the fans out there that are
listening to have a team that suck like mine. It's
not just drafting a guy, it's making sure that what
you do with that guy gets the best out of him.
And I just don't believe the majority of coaches, gms,

(44:54):
and owners do a good job of that. I said
when Trevor Lawrence was drafted that the Jaggs would fail
Trevor Lawrence before Trevor Lawrence would fail the Jags, and
I just I've taken that logic into almost every draft
pick we could possibly see. Like, I have no idea
if Bryce Young is actually going to be a long
term good quarterback, but I know that the Panthers did
everything they could to screw him over trying to get

(45:16):
him there. I there's no nice way to say that.
And you know, it's just the constant thing you and
I have talked about before, like Mahomes isn't Mahomes if
he's not playing where he's playing. I genuinely believe that,
you know, and you go up and down the list,
like for all the people that are obsessed with got
to get a first overall pick. Okay, well, just remember
that Josh Allen became Josh Allen because he was drafted

(45:37):
somewhere that didn't listen to the outside noise. They had
a plan on how they were going to increase his accuracy.
I sat there and watched people that I worked with
at ESPN doing long rips on his highlight showing why
he would never be an accurate passer. And guess what,
the Bills didn't listen to any of that. They figured
it out, They got the method for him. Lamar Jackson
was supposedly not going to be a capable NFL quarterback

(45:59):
and he could be a three time NFL MVP. My god,
Like you look at all of this, it's just a
reminder that your favorite team needs to go out and
draft the right guy. Yes, but then they need to
develop that guy the right way. And that's where everybody
fails over and over and over.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
And you know again you need the right coordinator, the
right head coach, right depending on if he's an offensive guy.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
You know that that system needs to be in place, like.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
The Bears, perfect example, Bear to bring them. The Bears
did not do the thing for me is when you
draft Caleb Williams as an organization, what what the entire
organization should do from the absolute top down. And I
keep yelling this. I don't care if it's the janitor.
If they don't speak Caleb Williams, get him out of
the building. Like the first thing you do when you

(46:51):
draft a quarterback is you say, we're gonna surround that
quarterback with one voice that makes one sense, that is
to that quarterback skills that we can develop him into
the pro that he needs to be, because you know,
a tiger has its stripes, like look at Caleb's the downfall.
The only thing that I heard about Caleb coming out
from smart people that cover the team that I respect,
cover the draft that I respect, was look, he makes

(47:14):
these great highlight plays, but he holds the ball for
a long time, and sometimes there's a question, why did
you make the highlight play when the easy throw was
right there. That's real, and I think Caleb is a
superstar in the making. I believe in Caleb Williams. I
don't believe in the Bears to develop him. They haven't
done that in one year. And frankly, even Bears fans
that are sitting here saying, well, Ben Johnson's gonna save him.

(47:35):
Ben Johnson likes a quarterback that is quick and efficient,
gets the ball out on time. Ben Johnson likes Jared Golf, Like,
I think you got to stop thinking about who the
hot name is and start looking at it and saying, Okay,
who speaks Caleb Williams to get the best time? Because
Andy Reid certainly figured out how to get the best
out of Patrick Mahomes, right, And I just I wish

(47:56):
more people would slow down and say, Okay, it's not
just the guy, it's who can develop the guy in
the right way, in the way that works for that player.
If the marriage isn't perfect, it's like an eighties tag team,
if you know, if both of them aren't perfect, man,
it's gonna fail.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, yeah, And look, I mean you know, I mean
he's now they're runnerless, right. I watched you know, unfortunately
the Bears are own you know National TV.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
I mean we've watched that now and we've seen Caleb
and you know again, it's just like just what this
m O coming out is exactly what he is. And
you know, he makes some tremendous plays. I mean, he's
got a gifted arm. He can like the play he
makes in that terrible game the other night against Seattle

(48:44):
Thursday night where he's he's reversing field and going back
back back, and he makes a throw to I don't
know who swift, I guess it was, and it was
it was the DJ More and it was along the
right side, and it was It was a great ridiculous throw.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
He should have been sacked. And you go, that's the
kind of arm talent the kid has.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
But you know he's got right now, he's swimming like,
holds all the ball way too long three times when
he just has no feel for the game. He's got
no coaching. They can't figure out any kind of sort
of time management. You know, they have trouble getting plays
in now the head coach has gone, so that makes
it worse. But they're just an absolute mess of a

(49:32):
mess right like they're they desperately need Jim Harball. Oh
that's wait, they didn't want Jim Harball. Yeah, I mean
the jokes, like, honestly, that franchise is a joke. When
they're chanting to sell the team on Amazon right and
the postgame show for the whole world to hear it

(49:54):
was so profound. I mean, it's the same organization that
didn't take it me with Jim Harball. Are they out
of her minds well.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
And according to some reports, Harball would never have wanted
to go there because he doesn't have a good relationship
with their president's CEO, Kevin Warren. And to that I
would say, cool, I'll find a new president and ceo,
like way here to find it. And and this is
the thing I will, I will.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
I also heard I heard that he wanted to go there.
That was that was a place that he wanted to go.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Yeah. No, he loved the idea of Chicago. He just
the couple of reports where he didn't like Warren. And
if that's the case, Chicago, then you fire Warren and
you you go get Harball. I mean, look, my beloved
Raiders chose not to even interview in any meaningful way Harball,
uh and went with Antonio Pearson instead, which I understood.
I said at the time, I understand why this is happening,

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but if this doesn't work, it's going to be a bad,
bad look. And what do you know, it looks like
a bad bad look when you look at what the
Chargers are doing and look at what the Raiders are
doing like this is for to sell the team crowd,
I will remind everybody. Unfortunately, if your favorite team stinks.
You don't get to tell your ownership to sell. Like
if your favorite restaurant goes in the dumps, you don't

(51:10):
get to kick down the door and tell them you
gotta sell this place. You're ruining the food. That's not
the way business works in America. Unfortunately, your team stinks.
The problem is go up and down the list of
the worst teams in the NFL right now, and you'll
see most of the worst teams have most of the
worst owners right Like the Giants, you're an abject disaster

(51:30):
the Raiders ownership. Obviously, it's not that Mark Davis hasn't tried.
It's just that, obviously he's not good at identifying the
right talent. So like, okay, nothing you could do about
that shotcom for the Jags is a joke, right, So
just keep going up and down the list of the
worst teams in the NFL. And we hear all the
time cultures built from the top down, right like in
any business, Well, culture is built from the top down

(51:52):
in the NFL too. If your owner is an idiot
when it comes to basic football moves, if your owner's
Jerry Jones, you're gonna struggle. You just are. You don't
get to tell the guy to sell, and there's nothing
you can do to take somebody's hand out of the
out of the cookie jar once they're in there. So
it's it's an unfortunate situation to be in.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Yeah, Well, I mean we got on the subject of
this whole thing because we're talking about the NFC North
sometimes at the backtrack of how we got some meandering
way through the forest, right, and we got there talking
about the NFC North. I do want to do a
showdown later on in the program, and it's a Raiders

(52:38):
Bears showdown about who's the worst franchise, truly the worst,
because you're talking about two teams that were the top
of the eighties, Right, the Raiders they win it in

(52:58):
eighty three, Right, the Raiders were the team of the
seventies into the eighties. The Bears had the most dominating
team still probably to this day, the Bears eighty five
Bears in the two thousand Ravens were probably the two
most dominant defense in the history of the league.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
So we're going to take it from that moment of
the eighties and we'll do.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
A showdown Raiders versus Bears because you're iconic franchises, right, right,
Bears Raiders iconic franchises. They're not Jackson though, right, all
due respect to the Jaguars. So what has Who's the
king of calamity? So I want to kind of go

(53:45):
through it coaches, quarterbacks and kind of do the tail
of the tape, which I'm sure you can recite chapter
and verse off the top of your head.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. Like look, I will say this.
I've often joked because as most people know that I've
consumed my work. I'm a Raiders fan because my dad
is a big Raiders fan. When I was a kid,
he would go get a dozen donuts, we'd sit down
together and we watch the La Raiders. When I was
in Vegas, every Sunday we watched the La Raiders as
a kid. And I have often joked, man, why couldn't

(54:17):
my dad have been a you know, a Packers fan
or a Patriots fan through all of these dynasties or
continual continual success. I made that joke, and somebody said
to me a couple of months ago, when I made
the joke, He's like, Hey, for what it's worth, your
dad was like in the seventies and eighties. The Raiders
were that team. So you're you're like, it was not
like this was one of the better franchises in all

(54:39):
of sports in the seventies and eighties. Since it's like, man,
I forget about that sometimes because I haven't seen that
in my adult life. I have not seen that.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
But you know the history of it all right, like
you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I'm not that
wasn't a literal question, you know, the history of the
Raiders and Madden and al Davis out Davis being Steinbrenner, right, Like,
I mean, they were they were just the Yankees, you know,
which is for those people that don't remember that or

(55:10):
we're alive, don't know about that stuff.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
I mean they were.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
I mean they were a huge They were a huge deal.
They were a big deal. The Raiders, like they were, man,
they were mythical in a lot of ways, you know that.
I mean they were the NFL. The NFL films made
them right, or you know, the whole thing they worked
and them together, the autumn win was a pirate.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
It was all about them.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Yeah, it feels all right.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
So we got there to this point by talking about
the greatness of the NFC North.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
We start with Minnesota and the Vikings.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
You're right or under the radar because of the anti
Donald bias, They're under the radar. But they have a
really good defense, Like their run defense is very good.
Flores is a great defensive coordinator. They have all the
weapons of the world. I mean, again, you used to

(56:06):
talk about Donald, but look look at Jefferson, Addison, Naylor, Hockinson,
Aaron Jones.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
I mean, are you kidding me that you put that
crew up against anybody?

Speaker 1 (56:19):
No, yep. And they have one of the better coaches
in the NFL too. I just we saw we saw
what O'Connell was able to do last year piecemealing at
the quarterback position, and it's just alarming to see how
much he's been able to get out of this offense
with one quarterback being And part of this is Darnald,
but part of this is also consistency at the position,

(56:41):
you know, compared to what he dealt with last year.
You know, when the injury bug started to come in
and then it was a revolving door at the quarterback position.
So you know, I think that's that's what makes this
really interesting. You've got one of the better offensive tacticians,
and you've got one of the better defensive coordinators in
the NFL. And really, frankly, if you look at the
North where we started this comment, I would say the

(57:01):
same thing at this point about Matt Lafleur. I would
say the same thing at this point obviously about the
Lions and their coaching staff. Like you have, the three
teams that are really dominant in this division are all
well coached, and they all have weapons that they can
rely on to win football games in a myriad of
different ways. They can all run the ball when they
need to, they can all pass the ball when they
need to, They all have they all have beast running

(57:22):
backs that can take over when they need to, and
they all have weapons that are hard to cover one
on one, Like it's tough to stop each of them.
And so it's funny because Minnesota, of the three we're
talking about, Minnesota has by far, I believe, the best defense, right,
Like that's not even because of the injuries, particularly to
the Lions. Minnesota has a huge advantage defensively. So the

(57:43):
question is I think the.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Like Green Bay's front a lot?

Speaker 1 (57:47):
I do I like their front a lot. I agree
with you on that I think green Bay in this conversation,
Minnesota is the best defense. Green Bay is the second
best defense. The Lions are the third best defense because
of the injury. So you know what's interesting is any
given Sunday, like when these two teams play, when the
Vikings play the Lions week eighteen, Man, this is it's
truly going to be earned. Like the best team here

(58:09):
is going to earn their way into that number one
seed in a bye. And that's just it's wild to
think of how good these teams are. And let's throw
Philly into that mix. If Jalen Hurts gets right.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
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Speaker 3 (59:34):
So here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
I don't understand why is Minnesota not a favorite over
green Bay at home?

Speaker 3 (59:43):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
I mean that one surprises me. Honestly, I can't figure
out why other than just like I said, it feels
like the world is slow to give Minnesota a lot
of credit here and.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
The line is moved right, so Minnesota's a slight. It
opened up.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Green Bay was the FA and now it's moved, its
steamed to Minnesota. Min It's those one and a half
still like even though there was a line Chaine online movement.
I was surprised that green Bay came in as the favorite,
and even now it's a pretty short line.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Yeah, and look, I think the Packers, particularly the team
that i've I've miacole plud several times this year.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Yeah, I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
We argued badly, continued to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
You know who we argue. We argued love Jordan Love.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Yeah, we ordered it. And I was wrong about the Cowboys,
certainly wrong about the Cowboys. There's no doubt about that.
Jordan Love still takes some risks sometimes that you know,
But look, Jordan Love is is played really well throughout
the course of this and they've been on a bit
of a heater the last few weeks against you know,
some questionable opponents.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Yeah, I mean the States. You know, you don't get
a lot of you know, points for beating that direk
the drek out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Of that team.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
You look at their there. If you go through and
again I'm not trying to apply the college football model here,
but if you take the Lions games out the two
losses that they have through this win streak, other than
the Lions, I mean the Jags, the Bears, the forty
nine Ers, the Dolphins, the Seahawks, like they're not beaten Juggernauts.
I think this is an important game to really figure
out where these two teams stand. And really it's an

(01:01:21):
important game because of what we talked about before the break,
the two respective defenses. I want to see how these
offenses perform against better level of defenses than they've seen
for much of this much of the season, so that
that's a real I think litanus test in all of this.
And the interesting line in the NFC is going to
be because I'm looking squarely at the Eagles, and let's

(01:01:43):
just we're going to presume for the sake of this
discussion that Jalen Hurts comes out of concussion protocol and
is fine. And if we come out of concussion protocol
and he is fine, I'm still looking at the Eagles. Fine, yeah, right,
And so I'm looking at this saying, this is an
Eagles team that can beat you a million different ways offensively.
But that's the same thing that I could say about
the Vikings. That's the same thing I could say about
the Lions. So let's let's couch the offensive conversation for

(01:02:06):
a second and then just look at the defenses. If
we're talking about the Lions, the Vikings, the Packers, and
the Eagles, the four respective defenses here, the Eagles defense
is the one that I wouldn't want to face, right,
So I'm genuinely interested to see how the Vikings and
Lions play against better defenses, because if we're going to
talk about who belongs to the Super Bowl, I honestly

(01:02:27):
think that side of the ball is going to be
the that's going to be the defining moment here for
whichever team makes it. Like, all of the offenses on
the elite teams can perform well enough, so which defense
is going to be the hardest to get through?

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Yeah? I agree, I do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
I agree of all those teams, even with Montgomery on
the sidelines, I still put Detroit as the top offense.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
But you're to your point, they're all right there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
I mean, the Eagles offense ridiculous because you have two
unbelievable weapons in Barkley and A J.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Brown. Like, you can't man up a J. Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
They'll beat you in man coverage until destroy you in
man coverage. And opposite a J. Brown is DeVante Smith.
So you got two elite, elite receivers to go with
the triangle of Barkley.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
So you know that's formidable.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Obviously, we talk about the Lions green Bay with Jacobs,
and you know they got two tight ends now at
Musgrove's back, and they got a slower receivers, right, like
they go five deep down into Wicks at receiver. And
then we went through the Minnesota's offense. So like you

(01:03:44):
look at these offenses, they're all really good and so
your theory's right, it's whitch defense. And you know it
also depends like where you're play him to like if
you play the Lions, I still and I know that
you know the Buffalo wented to the dome and smacked
them around, but I still believe, Man, if you put

(01:04:06):
them in a dome in the playoffs sort a tough out,
I don't care who's who's playing them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Yeah, that's where you know, home field is such a
massive I think if we're talking about the home fields
that I wouldn't want to have to go through, Philly
is number one because the elements played into that, right,
Like I don't have to worry about the elements in
Detroit or Minnesota. I have to worry about the elements
in Philly and green Bay. But green Bay is not
part of this home field advantage conversation, right, So With

(01:04:33):
that being said, I'm looking at Philly's the one if
the entire NFC should be rooting against Philly to get
home field advantage from there, I do. I agree with
you like I think the Lions and Vikings both. I mean,
it's chaotic, The Dome is going to be wild. It's
going to be crazy. The NFC has truly given and
it's what's funny about this is we all knew the
NFC North was going to be very good. I think

(01:04:53):
most of us included Chicago and the conversation, didn't realize
they were going to be as terrible as they are.
What's surprising is that the NFC has given us this
level of dominance in a season where the Cowboys and
the forty nine ers both suck, right Like that's I
think that's sort of the unpredictable variable here. So what's interesting,
And also go back to you mentioned the ability for

(01:05:16):
Josh Jacobson, you know, the ability to run the football.
All of these teams that we're talking about can run
the football, like that's just it. It's funny, how so simple.
I don't believe defense necessarily wins championship game and championships anymore.
I think it's part of it. But you know, for me,
what's funny is you look at these teams that are
dominant in the NFC. They can all whoop your tail

(01:05:36):
on the defensive side of the ball, and they can
all run the ball in a nasty game if they
have to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Yeah, and they live off of play action, right like
you know, look, look what the Lions do with play action,
Green Bay with play action. You know, Minnesota, same thing.
The Eagles are a different animal. The Eagles also fit
their elements right, like you say. You know, they're tough
to be in January at Lincoln Financial Field, and their

(01:06:05):
style is exactly that right where they just Hurts can
hurt you with his legs and he just makes such
a difference like you saw with him going out against Washington.
Barkley had racked up over one hundred yards in the
first quarter and then Hurts goes out and it's just impossible.

(01:06:26):
You're not gonna have the same level of run of
dominance in the run game because you're taking Hurts out
of the equation, like he means so much the Barkley and.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
The run game.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
And you know, come January, you're outside and you got
to deal with those two and then oh, by the way,
when you sell out like the way the Steelers did
and you go man on the receivers, that's where a J.
Brown Devonte Smithy up. So they're a tough matchup outside.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Yeah, and when with all of this, and it becomes
for me, if we know the ceiling for every one
of these teams is a Super Bowl, then the question
is like, what's the floor, what's the bad game protection?

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
And because some of these any given Saturday Sunday in
the playoffs, right Saturday games, we know they can be
a bad game. So then the question becomes, which team
do you know can survive a bad day from their quarterback?
Right now, We've seen the Lions survive horrible days from
Jered Goff this year with a five interception, five number game.

(01:07:31):
They survive that, but that defense is so decimated with
injuries now, I don't know if they could survive that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Like, if you have to take the ball totally out
of one of these quarterbacks hands and say win without
your quarterback being able to do anything, I still think
that that all leans Philly. I mean it leans Philly
over Like if I know that my quarterback is just
going to be a liability in the game. I might
go Philly and then Green Bay number two, then Minnesota,

(01:07:58):
then Detroit because of the defensive injuries.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
At this point. Yeah, yeah, no, I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
I think they're the most dangerous because defensively, they're so
good in the secondary.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
See.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Now, it was interesting because Terry McLaren was asked after
the game last week because Washington beats the Eagles. Now
Washington beats the Eagles, and figure, it really takes an
act of God, right, Like Hurts leaves the game, it's
Kenny Pickett that comes in the game. So you know,
you still got to take it with a grain of

(01:08:33):
salt that they lost the game. That said, McLaren said
he was surprised how teams showed so much respect to
queen Yon Mitchell, who's their rookie corner out of Toledo.
Teams just stay away from them. Now they went after
a little bit and they had some success. I think
only because I think he had a lot of depth,

(01:08:56):
and you know, his cushion was pretty against Mclaw was
pretty steep. But I mean he's a terrific young player.
So they got to They have a really good secondary
with Mitchell and Cooper Dejeen, the other rookie who plays
slock corner in the middle of.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
The field for him. And then you know, Zach Bonn
has been a revelation.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
He I mean, this is a guy that originally they
thought they were going to bring in to play off
the edge and Vic Fangio of the defensive coordinator for
Philadelphia's and no, no, no, we're gonna play him at linebacker.
And he's just had an amazing year. And the Jalen
Carter in the middle is a game wrecker, like he
just wrecks your offense. The only thing I worry about

(01:09:41):
with them is they're really thin up front. They're thin
on the edges and Jalen Carter's been playing a ton
of snaps, So you know, wearing down would be my
only kind of concern of their front.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Yeah, and I can see that obviously, But the game
wrecker portion of it is just I'll take the ability
to absolutely destroy the interior portion of a line early
and if they wear down, then they wear down. You know,
you're right, I see that. I wonder what impact And
this is where you and I talk all the time
at this point. It's part of what I love about

(01:10:15):
how matchups matter. Like, if you were taking on Josh Jacobs,
for example, somebody that's just going to absolutely like try
and hammer straight up to the middle of the line
and get through that thing and just wear you down
over the course of the game. That's part of how
Josh is always on the football, right. So if you're
taking on Josh Jacobs, and I worry about that interior
defensive line depth because you're just gonna be going at
him the whole time. I don't know that the Lions

(01:10:37):
without David Montgomery, the Lions an't going to be running
the ball that way.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
So it is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
It is interesting, and this is where too the coaches
are going to earn so much street cred in the
process of how they attack these matchups like these are
these are what three of the best, four of the
best coach teams in the NFL at this point, Like,
and it's funny because we've set here for just how
long and questions Sirianni, And that's fine. Look, you know

(01:11:05):
that you know that situation better than most everybody sits
here and yells about Sirianni. And I'm just looking at
it and saying, okay, even the question to me now
is going to be Is Sirianni going to be a
difference maker in the game plan that they come in
with versus Lafleur, who I think is just absolutely proven,
you know absolutely. I mean I cannot say enough about
where Lafleur is right now and where that offense is.

(01:11:28):
And then you've got obviously the Golden Child and Ben
Jonson the offensive coordinator for the Lions. Everybody's in the level,
both of their coordinators obviously, and I already gave flowers
to Kevin O'Connell, right, So the question is, then, if
all things being equal, which which coach do you trust
the most?

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
You know, well, that's a great point, it really is, because.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
That's that's the advantage we always talk about in the
AFS Like look, look AFC Championship game, if we're talking
about the Ravens or the Bills taking on the Chiefs
will remind everybody, as we say on the show, all
the damn time, you aren't just beating Mahomes. You gotta
beat Mahomes, You gotta beat Andy Reid, and you gotta
beat SPACs, right like, so you have to beat the

(01:12:09):
father Son and Holy Ghost of Trinity of effectiveness right now, right,
So you gotta you gotta, you gotta outplay you gotta
outplay Mahomes, you gotta out coach Andy Reid, and you
got out coach SPACs. Which of those coaching staffs that
I just mentioned. You know, like, certainly we've seen enough
stupidity that Bill's fans have yelled about from their head

(01:12:31):
coach in situation and time management even this year, that
that you sit there and say, Man, I'm I got
I'm a McDermott fan too, but I'm just there's been
a couple of like one little mistake, one little mistake
makes everybody blow up. And then I mean Todd unkin
the offensive coordinated for the Ravens. There are times that
I just look at it and think, man, he's totally

(01:12:52):
lost control of what he's game planning for. Like it
just it feels like that game plan gets away from
their strength. Sometimes you can't do that against the best
of the best. I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Well, it's a great that's a great question. It's a
great question because you know laflor Ben Johnson. Now, the
thing with the Eagles and O'Connell Flores is nasty man,
they might be the two best ye tandem.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
You know, Kellamore's done a nice job with the Eagles offense,
and Fangio is terrific. Right, So he's that grizzle veteran.
He's you know in the Spags moulled. Different scheme obviously,
but you know, the same kind of grizzled, you know,
defensive veteran. It's a great point. We're gonna take quick
t o. We'll come right back.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
We've got a lot of stuff next hour. We go
through the college playoffs. We'll do that. We've got tons
of things to do. Fellas hanging out right here. Fox
Sports Radio, Oh Fellas, Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargana. You know,
it's funny you bring up you brought up the college

(01:14:01):
basketball thing earlier, because you know, right after the season,
you know, after college you'll go right into college basketball,
and you know, I'll do the same thing and NBA
two and the whole thing. We'll get, you know, back
into into into ball. But you know, it's the same
thing in college basketball. I know Jim Laernega, you know,
he steps down and he blames the whole system, and
you know, guys are leaving because guys are getting better

(01:14:24):
deals and the whole thing. And I know that this
is a transition period, but I still can't help but
think it's going to be better for the sport.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Look. I get the portals of pain and the ads
for the coaches and the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
However, once this whole thing plays shakes out, guys will
stay in school longer. You can build a team you'll
be I mean, look what's going on with college football
and the quarterbacks like Kyle McCord is trying to get
another year eligibility, come back and play, earn and even
get more season for the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
I don't think you're wrong. There is a we're seeing
it right now. We're college football players, as we mentioned earlier,
are fighting to stay in the game even longer. There
are so many kids playing at the highest possible level
in college athletics that are not going to play in
their respect to professional leagues. Right Look back, go back

(01:15:17):
to the COVID year in college basketball, Casius Winston from
Michigan State was one of the most dominant players in
all of college basketball. That Michigan State team could have,
should have would have won a national championship it was
all ended because of COVID. Obviously, Casius Winston played like
three seconds in the NBA, right, and then went over
to Europe. There are plenty of people that go over

(01:15:38):
to Europe, play play over there, make good money, have
a great life. That it's a very viable way. It's
a really respected way. Like I have nothing nothing but
love for the guys to go and play in Europe.
But if you can stick around play an extra year
college ball, would you, right, Like, if you can transfer
and go play somewhere where there's an opportunity. I mean, look,
look this year in the college football playoff, Dylan Gabriel

(01:16:00):
is the quarterback and the number one ranked team of
the country. I don't know anybody that tells me that
Dylan Gabriel has a shot of being a real Sunday
NFL quarterback, right, But you know what, He's made a
ton of money playing college football, right fully, so right
and when his career is over in college football. It
was extended because of the transfer portal. It was extended
because nil, like all of these things give the guys

(01:16:23):
a chance and girls a chance that are playing sports
that are not going to be playing at the highest
possible level, and isn't that what we should want? Like,
I don't know. For me, it's one of those things
that you see so often and I really saw when
I was working at ESPN. You go over to the
gym across the street from ESPN, then you they have
a like a rec center, and the number of people

(01:16:45):
that were playing basketball, that played high level Division one basketball,
that were you know, production assistants on shows and like
behind the scenes on shows and not on air. People like, yeah,
you'd have former NBA players dunking on each other, but
you have guys and girls that played D one basketball.
They just don't have an outlet anymore. Like why are
we trying to end the outlet early? For anybody that

(01:17:06):
wants to play the game that they've played their whole life.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Let him play.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
And the other thing, too, is to your point, you know,
it's a big business, right, So those contracts, those TV contracts,
you generate a lot of revenue, so let them earn.
I mean, you know, I mean, I'm dude, I'm so
with you. I told her all the time about my
two right, Like, you know, my Anthony is a pretty

(01:17:33):
big boy, and you know he's a freshman in high
school and he'll start his training in January. It was
one of the Santa's gifts, right, Like, he's going to
go to a trainer, you know, three days a week
who just trains the ends in linebackers, right like literally
ends in linebackers. He'll go three days a week. I'll

(01:17:55):
you know, he and I left, well watch like film
right tape while he does school work, and that'll take
him up until the season because it's a big season
for him and the sophomore year and get him ready.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Right, My little one is eleven, and you know, listen,
I don't know what he's gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Project at, but he plays baseball and football and basketball.
But I think he came he's a quarterback and he
goes to we go to all the quarterback work. I
throw with him every day.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
We throw. He's got a high school ball.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
He's got big hands, so I make him throw the
high school ball and we play every day and he throws,
and you know, I don't see what happens, but if
it works out where he can actually play college football
and get paid, you imagine and imagine starting life with
a little net egg and not in debt because of

(01:18:46):
going to college I mean, what parent doesn't want that?

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
And you get to play the sport you love for
as long as you possibly can, and once you stop
playing at the college level, it's hard to find that
competition anywhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
All right, we're gonna take a look at the big
college games coming up, the college football playoffs, Fellas.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
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Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
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Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
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hanging out every Saturday, Fellas. All right, my brother, Uh,
let's take a look at what's going to happen in
the playoffs at college football landscape. So this gounda be
fun man to New Year's Eve it gets back. I mean,
you know you can't get roll Penn State, Boisy. I

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gotta ask you, is there any way, is there any
way a boys he has a chance in this game?

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Well, I mean I think the path is pretty simple.
We all know it. You know, Ashton Genty is gonna
be huge, and he will be huge. He's gonna have
a big game. I don't think you slow down. I
don't think you stop Ashton Genty. Let's say it that way.
So if your Boise State, your hope is that you
know you can maximize the limitations at Penn State does

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have offensively, you can get a couple of early mistakes
somehow someway from Drew Aller, turnover, turnover, and then hold
the ball for a long time. Do I think that
they win this? No, I don't, And frankly, I don't
think this game is going to be close. So this
is this is where I say this gently because part
of the magic of the opening weekend of college football

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playoffs was that we got a game at Happy Valley
and that we got a game at Notre Dame. I
don't think the general like college football barely fan right,
the casual like, oh I watch sometimes. I don't think
he's gonna be absolutely losing their minds over home playoff
game at Boise State. They're gonna watch like a diehards
like us. They're gonna watch it, but it wouldn't have
had the same impact. However, if our opening weekend would

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have had a better seeded playoff, we would have had
better games, and this weekend we would also have better games.
I just I believe that. I think Penn State roles
in this one. Boise State can keep it close for
a minute. Boise State's still gonna get their one hundred
and sixty one hundred and eighty yards from Ashton genty.
That's just what he does. But I don't know how
Boise State stops. Even though at times Penn State can

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be a little one dimensional in their passing game, I
don't think that they can be slowed down by Boise State.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Penn State roles in this one. Three touchdowns. I'm still
going the same thing. The line's eleven. I was going
the same thing, like I look at it and I
go and Aler did not play well last week. It
got lost in that the game was such a mismatch.
I mean, poor Jennings right from smu warnted nothing to
deal with the elements.

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
I mean, I mean he was running off the field
like he just he just was completely lost. He had
a horrific start.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
I mean, I'll be honest with you some it was
Penn State roles in the game, but Franklin still makes
ridiculous decisions like you're up, the reason why you're leading
is you have two pick sixes, so you go for
a fourth and one deep inside your own territory, up
two scores.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
Which sense did that make?

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Yeah? I honestly felt like in that moment, Franklin was
a little bit like, I get the cocky we could
beat anybody. We're not worried about them. We're gonna go
out there and be who we're like. I get football
coach speak on that. I thought it was. It was
I understand that what you're trying to do is send
a message, and you believe that you're so much bigger
and stronger you can get it done. I just thought

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it was foolish, you know, And that's to be to
be honest, even above and beyond the fact that it
disrespects your opponent, and you know, I think it over
it showed an over inflated value of self to where
he viewed Penn State in that matchup. To me, look
and that's coming from somebody that again, I picked Penn
State to win that game by twenty so they were

(01:23:05):
gonna roll. I just thought it was. It was foolis
yet and at some point, all things being equal, again,
we'll go back to the NFL conversation we had for
a second here like that didn't hurt him against SMU.
I don't think that sort of decisi would hurt him
against boise State there enough of a face. Will it
hurt him against Dan Lanning in Oregon at some point
or against sark and Texas at some point?

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
You know those are the things that I think that's
where it starts to get real.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
So I'm with you, and I don't think Boisey can
stress Penn State either. The New Year's Day games on Wednesday.
Obviously Texas Arizona State the other mismatch of the grouping.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
So this line Texas is thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Now you know it's about Scatterborough and you know, look,
can catch the ball out of the backfield, You're gonna
have to fit got away because you're not gonna be
able to run it against Texas front. So you got
to figure out a way to get him the football
in space. Now you catch it out of the backfield.
That would be my biggest game plan, which is to
get him the ball in the short pass game.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Yeah, And that's the funny thing is that I will
give Arizona State credit. They had more balance than I
thought they would in the big Teal championship game. They
had played with more balance throughout this run than I
think that I give them credit for it. Went back
and watched a couple of games too. I just don't
think they can get that against this Texas defense, right, Like,
the thing of it is, they're going to be made

(01:24:37):
one dimensional, and once they're made one dimensional, they're not
going to be able to beat Texas. It would take
a catastrophic game from Quinn Eewers for this to even
be close. And that's Quinn's the shell of himself right now.
I genuinely believe that when we finished the season, we're
gonna find out that Quinn's been battling a lot of
things we don't even know about. Injury wise. The shoulder
never seemed right. Now he's got the ankle on top

(01:24:58):
of it. We're seeing a fraction of who Quinn Ewers
can be in this process. I'm a little surprised that
we didn't see Arch in the last playoff game just
take over. But that being said, yeah, I think the
problem here for Arizona State is that you can't handle
the grown men that are on the defensive side of
the ball. For Texas, I'll give Arizona State credit to
they've got a much bigger defensive line. Then I think

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a lot of people realize size wise, they've they've got size.
But man, I just to me, Texas is going to
run the ball and they're not going to be run on.
And when when Texas runs the ball, they didn't run
the ball in the SEC championship game, they looked foolish.
When they can run the football, they can absolutely decimate you.
And that's what they're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Yeah, because then all of a sudden twenty one. Yeah,
because then yours he works so much better. All quarterbacks
to off of play action, but especially him. I think
you're when they're running the ball and it's second to three,
and you know, it makes quarterback playing easy.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
I don't see either being close. But if I sadia,
which game is closer, Penn State, Boise or Texas Arizona State,
we got.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
I think because of Ashton Genty's simple, magnificent play, I
could see Boise State turning this into seven to eight
minute drives, just just slowing this game down so much
that maybe they can keep it closer. Like maybe maybe
we hit the midway through the third quarter and it's

(01:26:26):
still a ten point game before it blows out. Yeah,
I don't. I think I'll give the Texas Poise State.
But that's cautious on this, Like I'll give Texas Boise
State the better chance to state close.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
What do you think Penn State bois Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's that's.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
What I'm Penn State boys they sorry, yeah, I give
that one a better chance of stay close. What do
you think?

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
I agree?

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
I think it's Penn State Boise and strictly because the
genty because and I like Scataboro, But I just think
the Texas front negates that. Listen, Penn State should be
able to u k not get completely riddled by gente.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
But all right, So look, we're having some technical difficulties
peaked behind the curtain. I'm here. I don't know if
we have cousin, But continuing that conversation, I think we
have to understand because over the course of the first
weekend of the college football Playoff, a lot of what
we talked about was frankly, you know, oh my god,
look at this, they got the wrong teams in the playoffs.

(01:27:22):
I think what we're gonna learn over the course of
New Year's even New Year's Day, is that, frankly, there
just aren't that many playoff caliber football teams, right, Like,
That's what we're gonna see in this process is that
the expansion from four to twelve in many ways was
frankly about getting more teams in because we want more

(01:27:43):
playoff games. There was never a guarantee that that meant
we were going to get more close playoff games. Because
if you look at the way that this is seeded
out and you look at the way the bracket has fallen.
All right, we just told you. Texas Arizona State we
both believe is going to be a blowout. Penn State
Boise I believe it's going to be a blowout. We
both believe it's going to be a blowout. Georgia certainly

(01:28:05):
has the team to be able to compete, but they've
got a backup quarterback at this point against a Notre
Dame team that's playing the hottest defensively that we've seen
in a long time. A Notre Dame team that I
think can absolutely handle Georgia. Hopefully we get a close
game out of that. I believe it'll be a closer
game out of that. But I look, there's a real
shot that we get into this weekend. This week, I

(01:28:28):
should say, and three of the four games could turn
out to be pretty easily handled. Ohio, Ohio State, Oregon
I think might end up being the only really good
game that we're gonna get New Year's even New Year's Day.
And that just speaks to the fact that for all
the yelling about well Alabama should have gotten in or

(01:28:48):
Olemas should have gotten in, I think what we're really
going to realize, guys, is that there just weren't twelve
teams on the same level. Anthony, Like, this is for me, Yeah,
And it doesn't mean the system is broken. It just
means that they're there weren't twelve teams that were capable
of winning a national championship, which more years than not
I think is going to be the case.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
You know, agreed, except like there are teams that I
would like to see in the mix that aren't in
a playoff, right, sure, sure, you know, I mean, you
know it's fair to say, who knows what Alabama does.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
I don't disagree with that, but we're we also would
presume in the conversation of Alabama belonged in. We're presuming
that we get the version of Alabama that has played
lights out, not the version of Alabama that got beat
by an Oklahoma team that's trash right, Like, so, I
think my only point is that look, Oregon, Ohio State,
Notre Dame, Georgia. Maybe we'll see with the backup quarterback Texas.

(01:29:49):
Those are the only teams Penn State that have a
real shot at a national championship, Like Tennessee got their
asses kicked, And I mean certainly, there's no presumption in
my mind, and there's there's no proof that that wouldn't
have happened to Ole Miss or South Carolina or Alabama
as well. Like it's just the first round gave us
more of what the second round. Texas is gonna blow

(01:30:10):
out Arizona State, Penn State's gonna blow out Boise State.
I'm not one hundred percent sure that Notre Dame doesn't
easily handle Georgia. I know that's a hot take to
a lot of people, but I feel like we got
a chance that we're gonna be sitting here saying, in
the first two rounds of the college football playoff, we
got one really close, compelling, oh my god, game, and
that's Oregon Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
Yeah, I do think Listen, I'm with you. I like
Notre Dame in the game, but I mean, I still
think that could be a good game. And by the way,
you know, George is the favorite. So I do think,
you know, even if the game turns out that Notre
Dame wins, and even if they win handily, it does,

(01:30:50):
it's not an indictment on those I think you got
half to I think you got a half to half.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
The games are gonna be good, those two.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
And I think it's a look all Mission and Bama,
I do believe would give you know, better game.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
I just think they just need to fix the seating.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
And I'm all right if the first round is, you know,
a little little lopsided.

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
It's like that in the NFL in the playoffs sometimes too.
In the NFL, it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
That in the NCAA tournament in the first round. Like
a bunch of these games are blowouts in the NCAA tournament,
like and that's where you're right. The seating would have
fixed things like I think we would have had a
better game if we had you know, Arizona State taken
on Poise State in the first round, for example. We
would have had a better game, it just wouldn't have
had the same like sexiness of I mean, the fact
that the first ever college football playoff game was at

(01:31:38):
Notre Dame. It's just that's just sexy, right, So I look,
I have no problem with the college football Playoff the
way any of it went down. I just I'm not
overly concerned about the fact that I think we're gonna
get a bunch of blowouts and Georgia, Man, Georgia is
hard for now. We've got, as we said last week,
and I know a lot of Georgia fans have killed
me for this because they're all convinced the backup quarterbacks
even better. But this is a that led the country

(01:32:00):
and drops. So now you're talking about a wide receiver
corps that plays, that catches the ball like it's a
game of hot potato taking on a Notre Dame defense
that just the secondary on that defense is suffocating, right,
That Notre Dame defense is it needs to get a
lot more love. Now, I do believe George's defense is
gonna shut down a lot more of what Riley Leonard

(01:32:21):
tries to do as a runner. I'll give you that.
I think that could be an ugly low scoring game
in some ways, but I just Notre Dame wins by
ten to me, and ten's close, but it's not gonna
be this. I don't think we're looking at two minutes
to go, Oh my god, who's gonna win this game?
I hope I'm wrong, But to me, the one game
that's gonna be destination. Cancel all your plans, cancel your meetings,

(01:32:43):
shut off your phone is gonna be New Year's Day,
five pm, Ohio State organ.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
Yeah, Rose Bull.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
I'll be honest with you, and I still can't believe
if you're Oregon and you got to play this game,
you're like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
Living? But like I get it, Like you know, it
just fits right. It's rose Ball.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
It's you know, the elements of the old Pac twelve
against Big ten and the whole thing. It's a great game.
It's a great matchup. But man, it's so undeserved by Oregon, right,
Like it's so you're the number one seed and you
got to take all the Ohio State like that a
load should have gave the committee. Uh, they should have

(01:33:26):
blown up the whole idea.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
Of it all.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
Well, and I will say too to me, I don't
give a damn about where these bowl games are, the
Orange Bowl, the Rose Well, I don't care about any
of that. I really wish this round was also home
playoff games.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
I just I do too.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
And like if this game was Ohio State at Oregon,
now we're talking about a home field advantage, right that
that to me is such a different like Notre Dame
going to Georgia. Now we're talking about something different, you know.
And it's gonna feel so stale on New Year's even
New Year compared to what we had the first weekend,
because we're not seeing the best of what college football is.

(01:34:04):
Like there's a reason that they sent big noon in
game day two sites instead of doing them in the studios. Right,
they do that because the best thing about college football
is the atmosphere, and we saw it on the first weekend,
like just seeing the marching bands and seeing the best
d in band in all the land and tears in
their eyes as they're marching on the field, and the
college football Playoff gave me goosebumps, it gave me feels.

(01:34:26):
It's a moment I will as a sportsman. I will
never forget watching the first weekend of the college football
Playoff and seeing those home atmospheres. I am angry to
my core this weekend or this week coming up that
these games are stuck in a bowl game that's just
gonna feel stale and obnoxious compared.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
Yeah, that's a great point, brother, and I.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
Can say that now. I could. I'll be honest with
you all. I always pull back the curtain. You're not
allowed to trash the ball games at ESPN. That is
one thing. You cannot make fun of the bowl game names.
You can't make fun of the bowl games. It's a
big partnership. I'm making fun of them now. Like I
do not care about the vr be O Fiesta, ble,
I just care about Penn State Boise State. Come on.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
This this match?

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
I you know again, I like Ohio State, I guess,
but this map. I mean the first game was ridiculous.
I mean, if you go back and remember the first game,
how how great it was two versus three? And it
was the great showdown in UH In Week seven thirty two,

(01:35:31):
thirty one, Gabriel the magic.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
But look at the Look at the.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
Numbers, right, total yards Oregon four ninety six, Ohio State
four sixty seven. I mean, they're they're so similar, three
forty one to three twenty six, passing one fifty five
to one forty one. On the ground, I mean their
numbers are almost identical other than Ohio State turned the

(01:35:59):
ball over twice.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
The two fumbles well, and to that end, I cannot
get out of my head. And I'm sure Oregon has
spent weeks preaching it the way Penn State just rammed
the ball down their throats Big Ten Championship game, and
now you got those those Ohio State backs coming in woo.
I mean, Oregon better have fixed that. They better have

(01:36:21):
fixed that. Look, Oregon's been the number one team in
the country all year, and I want to give them
benefit of the doubt because they have earned that number
one seed. But you're absolutely right, Like I think, the
toughest matchup that they're gonna play, the top, the top
matchup we're going to see in all of the college
football playoffs is that game. I don't believe they'll be
a better game.

Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
I'm curious about one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Just bringing it back to Notre Dame and Georgia, the
one game I can't get out of my mind. Hey,
look is FC putting up thirty five on that defense
and it's one thing dominated against Indiana. And I mean,
I like the players, and you can only play who

(01:37:04):
you play. I get it, but I still kind of
have that are we sleeping? Are we overrating the Notre
Dame defense?

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
I don't think we're overrating the Notre Dame defense. I
do think they had a bad game against USC, Like
this is one of those two things they are true
at once. But you're right, I mean, who else did
they play for a lot of the season. Like, I
think that's a fair argument to make. You know, when
your biggest to the biggest offense, the best offenses you
took on. We're a Navy team that turned out to

(01:37:35):
not be all that great, or an Army team that
turned out to compared to the elites maybe Louisville when
they face them. We're not talking about taking on a
lot of juggernaut offenses, right, Like, So, I do think
it's fair to look at and say what the hell
happened in that USC game? Particularly, But man, I don't
know the way they were flying to the ball, just

(01:37:55):
absolutely like Signetti was eating a bunch of crow and
a bunch of crow in that matchup. Because of the
way that defense was flying around. The back end of
that defense is what I think scares me in the
college football playoff in a good way. Like that, the
back end of that defense just they have closing speed,
They hit hard, they get they close windows quickly. I just, man,

(01:38:18):
I think the back end of that defense is not
gonna let George is gonna have to run the football
incredibly well to have any chance in that game. Incredibly well.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
Yeah, now, I listen, I feel you. I just just wonder,
just get this little nagg and field. Because I listen,
I like, I picked Notre Dame weeks ago, and so
I love them. But I'm starting to get I start
to get a little. As much as I feel like you,
I go, Notre Dame's gonna beat Georgia, and there's a

(01:38:47):
part of me it goes I'm curious to see what
George's offense looks like because I agree with the backup
when it comes to back and getting the ball down
the field. The only thing is, again, they missed outside
receivers all season long, like Mconkee Bowers. Those threats, those
downfield threats. That's what's missing, that that explosiveness off the

(01:39:10):
Georgia offense.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
One hundred percent. And look, the backup quarterback there for
Georgia is much highly recruited. Everybody loves him. I get it.
He's more dynamic as a runner, I get it, all
of these different threats, I get it. This is what
Georgia fans have been yelling at me for weeks. The
thing of it is, he's not going to be able
to throw the ball with any real You can't depend

(01:39:35):
on it. I can't depend on guys to catch the ball,
and I can't depend on, you know, backup quarterback to
come in and throw the ball against that defense. So
whatever he does with his legs is really going to
be their only shot. It's And by the way, if
your answer is a mobile quarterback against Notre Dame, I
will remind you that they spend every single day practicing
against one of the best mobile quarterbacks in the country,

(01:39:56):
and Riley Leonard, you're not showing them something they haven't
already seen and don't not a game plan for I
just this just felt like the wrong matchup for Georgia.

Speaker 3 (01:40:04):
Yeah, it's a great point. All right, let's take quick too.

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Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
Do you have that. I'm telling you, man, the drones
are still flying in Jersey. So the drones said.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Story, Yeah, no, did the drones freak out? That's this
This is to a fault. Again. As I've said a
million times, I'm not the buddy you want in a
zombie apocalypse. I'll just go to the drug store. I'll
break in and I'll I'll go out and you know,
blaze of glory. It's just really high. So like, I'm
not the person that's going to fight my way through
any sort of like apocalyptic sort of moment. But everybody

(01:41:44):
freaks out about the drones. And I'm also not a
government conspiracy theorist or any of those things. I look
at it, I'm like, well, shoot, if it's UFOs, I'm
not gonna be equipped to take them on anyway, So
I'm not gonna worry about it. If it's a foreign government,
I would think that our government's probably going to figure
it out, you know, at least better than I am.
And if it's our government, I'm not going to be

(01:42:05):
able to stop them. So I'm just like all right, cool, Like,
you know, guess what if you're if you're taking pictures
of my life it's not that exciting. Just send me
any good ones of the dogs. I don't know, Like
I'm this is where I'm the worst. Like my my
friends that get so worked up about this stuff hate
me because I'm always like, yeah, okay, so there's drunks,
like not going to change my Saturday. But they're flying
over Jersey like that. That's right in your neck of

(01:42:26):
the woods. Are you are you like looking at it?

Speaker 3 (01:42:28):
I mean, we see them all the time, and they're
a little off putting and.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Less for me because I kind of I'm kind of
like subscribe to your theory, be honest with you. I'm
pretty much laid back kind of person, but like I
feel bad for like, you know, like my kids, especially
my little one. He's a little freaked out by it,
you know what I mean, Like what is it, daddy?
And you know, and you're trying to explain to him,

(01:42:55):
like you know, listen, we have satellites and we know
where they come from, and you know, I'm trying to
give them the the you know, talk them off the
ledge and not and not make it worse. So that's
kind of really it. But yeah, I mean they've been
like they've been fine. It's bizarre.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
Brother, that's a huge difference when you have kids too,
Like that, that's the other side of it. Like I'm
the first to admit that part of what makes me
at times like I feel like I'm just sort of
devil and angel.

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
All in one.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
Like I feel like overall, I feel like I'm a
good person. I too, but there are also parts of
me that I just are like terrible. So I look
at it and I'm like, yeah, I don't have kids,
so like the future of the world's not something I
really worry about the same way, and I want to.
It just doesn't. It can't hit I don't think it's
kind of like you mentioned earlier, there's a magic to
Christmas when you have kids, there's a magic to Christmas

(01:43:44):
when you don't have kids. I still try and help
the world as best I can on that day, as
you know, But I also look at it as like, man,
I'm you know, I'm in my forties and I don't
have kids, Like Christmas doesn't. I don't have any family,
So Christmas just doesn't hit the same way that it
does for some people with kids. Same when it comes
to like when I sit here and think about foreign

(01:44:05):
policy and the future of the economy and all these things,
Like it's hard for it to hit me the same
way because like I don't really I'm not gonna my
family is not going to be impacted in any way
that I know, So like it's just it's just harder
to hit. That sounds very selfish when I say that
out loud, but you know where I'm coming from.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
Dude, I completely understand. Believe me, I get it. Hey,
just get real quick getting back to it and we'll
get back to the NFL in a second. But I
did want to ask you, are you watching any of
the Bowl games like today's agent.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):
They're always on both Yeah, they're always on.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
Yeah. Yeah, me too. I'll tell you there's a ton
of them today.

Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
Uh. You know, like I was going to actually go
up to Nebraska because they're playing the Yankee Stadium and uh,
but I got all the duties and it's hard for us.
It's an early game, hard for me to get up
there to make it early. But uh, Nebraska, and I'm
a big Rayola fan. I love Rayola, and you know,
with Matt Ruhle and then in Miami, Iowa State, that's

(01:45:07):
another interesting game. Roco Beck should throw for a zillion
in that game. I'm interested and I'm interested in BYU Colorado.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
Don't don't uh, don't back off that pinch stripe Bowl though,
is rule like you got to hook up a coach,
you're gonna get some like fancy pin stripe Nebraska stuff like.
That's one of the cool things about these bowl games.

Speaker 3 (01:45:27):
Is that now the swag, it gives you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
The real opportunity to get different swag that hit different ways.
That's why, frankly, I understand why you know, go into
the Gronk Bowl was good for UNLV, and they always
seem within the last couple of years their bowl games
have been out West. That's fine. I was hopeful that
UNLV would get a more and this like more incredible
sort of yeah, I could. I could justify flying to

(01:45:50):
a bowl game that just didn't happen with this one.
But yeah, like b WHYU Colorado? And by the way,
Colorado being adamant that you know, they took out insurance
policies to cover their their best players and they're making
sure that their players play in this game. And you know,
dion Is is obviously coach Prime is continuing to build
a certain culture around the expectation. They're like, that'd be

(01:46:11):
why you Colorado game. I'm I'm genuinely excited for it,
Like that's that's good football we're gonna see tonight. I
don't think that's gonna be a mail and in bowl
for either side.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
I'm looking for to that game. And I think I
alwould state Miami could have a lot of fireworks.

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
Yeah, and you know, Miami is just gonna be the
what might have been. It's just I'm always interested to
see what happens to a team and how they come
out for a bowl game when it wasn't what they thought, hoped, wanted,
any of those things. You know, it's just the season
that and you were right about Miami the number of times.
And we were texting after the show so often guys

(01:46:49):
where you know, I come in and say, I'm telling
you it doesn't matter. Miami finds a way to win
because of Cam And then you know, I feel like
an hour after the show, Anthony, I'd be texting each
other it's like, God, this Miami team stinks.

Speaker 3 (01:47:00):
You're actually watching the defense.

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
That defense was just horrid, horrid and what a waste.
Like that's one thing I do think we have to
sort of change our mindset on in college football because
the transfer portal has made it such a one year
rental quarterback situation. If you don't take advantage of the
rental quarterback you have, then shame on you, right, And

(01:47:22):
Miami didn't take advantage of it. They had cam Ward
this year and an opportunity that they knew was going
to be. This was the year with cam Ward where
they were going to be able to try and win
a bunch of games and really showcase. And you know,
there are reports out there that, for example, Michigan State's
prepared to offer four million dollars to Quinn Youewers to
come play quarterback for him next year. Okay, what are
you going to build around that to make sure that

(01:47:43):
you take advantage of that so that you're not just
playing in the Pop Tarts Bowl, as much as we
love pop darts, not playing in the Pop Darts Bowl,
you're playing in the college football playoff. Miami didn't do
enough on the defensive side of the ball for that,
and shame on them.

Speaker 3 (01:47:55):
That's right, that's right. You know, I've never eaten a
pop dart.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
This is this take is going to get me in trouble.
But I think pop tarts are so overrated, so overrated.

Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
I never eat one.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
I just never. We weren't a pop tart family. I
know all the people they love the pop tart. I
just never had the you know, toasters are better.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
I'm just I'm gonna say out loud what the world
should know. Toaster stroutles are better. Plus I didn't grow
up on any of that stuff. My brother growing up
was allergic to artificial coloring, so we never had like
the first time I ever had kool aid, it had vacated,
like I didn't. I never grew up around stuff like
I didn't have lucky charms, the better ju juice. Yeah,

(01:48:38):
oh yeah, you're right about that.

Speaker 4 (01:48:40):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
Still to this day, I'll take a nice you know,
give me, give me now. It's better vodka.

Speaker 4 (01:48:45):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
It's not pop off now, you know. But I'm I'm
not too classy to put you know, some fruit punch
in my in my grape goose.

Speaker 4 (01:48:52):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:48:54):
But that that makes me sound terrible. But pop tarts
were in that same category, so I didn't have most
of those. So I was in like my twenties or thirties,
and I'm like, God, if I'm gonna have lucky charms,
I might as well just have a donut. Donuts are better, right.

Speaker 3 (01:49:08):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
Coming up, I want to go through each of the
games because there's three off today NFL. There's three NFL
games and they're all pretty good. They all have decent storylines,
so I kind of want to dive through each of
the three today. I do love the NFL and set
like today looking up at all these college games and
NFL games, it's a great football day.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
So I'm like, you know, just a good day. It's raining.
Is it snowing up there? Is it raining?

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
Just raining, just gross rain.

Speaker 3 (01:49:37):
Yeah, we've had there's.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
A bit of a warm spell now, so it's going
to be raining for the next like four days. It's
a great day to just kind of nestle in and
watch the ball. So we'll be doing that, Fellas, hanging
out right here with you every Saturday. Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargana,
Fox Sports Radio. Fellas, Jason, It's at the new organ

(01:50:01):
from the ti Raq dot Com studios. All right, tripleheader
on the NFL network. So this is the Saturday where
the NFL network gets a bone. How long until that
just goes away?

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
The games are the network itself?

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
Well, maybe both, like because like there's no reason you'll
have the network just to have the network, right, because
it's always good just to have a pr win, right,
But yeah, why put games on the NFL network, like
back in the day made sense?

Speaker 3 (01:50:34):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
It doesn't serve anybody now because like before, you were
looking at it to try to grow the channel, but
you were going to make way more money with streaming.
So why waste a Saturday, a primetime Saturday with three
big You know, I got three games.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
I could sell that to a streamer. Hey, paradou plus.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
Hey, uh, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:50:57):
What's the peacock?

Speaker 4 (01:51:00):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
K two B come on down? You're right, somebody goes
pay for it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
You're right. And it's funny because nothing before you know it,
nothing's going to be available on free TV across the
across the board. You know, we had someone tweetests that
saying on ESPN and it's and ESPN is about to
do their own standalone version of ESPN for anyone that

(01:51:29):
hasn't seen. Next year, they released their first direct to
consumer app that's not like what you're used to. You
won't have to have cable or anything else. You'll be
able just to buy an ESPN. You can get all
of ESPN for You're right there in the app without
having a cable provider or having a TV provider. But
it's going to cost an arm and a leg. And
so you do look at this at some point and say,

(01:51:50):
my god, when's enough enough? Like I was listening to
one of the promos and they were talking about the
fact that not everybody has Netflix. I'll be honest, like,
I'm the one person in the world that if I like,
I'm a team guy, and so T Mobile gives me
Netflix for free. That's one of the perks of T Mobile.
That's what I love. But the fact is, when I
had to log into Netflix to watch the football game,

(01:52:12):
I had to try and remind myself what my password was.
I don't ever watch Netflix. I'm just not really sit
down and binge watch TV guys. So like I'm a
background noise TV person more often than not. So like
I feel for everybody, because it is true. If you
don't have NFL Network today, you're not gonna see I mean,
Broncos Bengals is an important playoff game, so you better

(01:52:35):
have a provider of some sort that will give you
that opportunity to watch it. Otherwise you can't see it.
And that's just the NFL is going more and more
and more to this model. Now, let's be real, I
grew up in an era that didn't have NFL Sunday Ticket,
and I'm certainly a lifelong, diehard NFL fan, But once
you've been used to being able to see all of
the games, not being able to see all of the

(01:52:57):
games feels like a huge loss. I don't know, like
the long term ramifications of this, I think are rather interesting.
That there are big, important, beefy games in the schedule
that unless you're out here, you know, I think Yahoo
said this year was going to cost a thousand dollars
basically to have all of the streaming services you would
need if you want to see every single game, including

(01:53:18):
NFL Sunday Ticket, And you know, I think it's kind
of wild to me, is somebody that's paid for Sunday
Ticket the majority of my adult life, the fact that
you know, you can't get some of these games on
Sunday Ticket, it's just it's all frustrating. It's all frustrating,
and I will remind everybody that we are the only
country in the world that doesn't offer NFL Game Pass

(01:53:40):
on an ola carte team to team, week to week basis.
So when I toured in Europe and I got over there,
I wanted to watch the Raiders game. And the first
thing game Pass said when I signed up over there
was do you want just this week? Do you want
just the Raiders? Different costs for all of it. They
offer that to the rest of the world, but you
get here and you're limited on what you can buy
and how you can buy it and where you can
watch it. Now you have three games, including again two

(01:54:02):
important but like Cardinals Rams. I know the Cardinals are eliminated,
but the Rams, there's a lot of importance this and
Broncos Bengals is one of the most important games of
the entire weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
Right, Charges not for nothing? Right, you want to see
what's going to happen with Chargers. It's you know, Chargers
New England. I'm with you, And that Broncos Bengals game
is a great game. That's that should be a blast,
that game, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:54:28):
And the fact that the Bengals are just trying to
scrape their way into this playoff behind just a miraculous
performance this year by Joe Burrow. I've said it continuously.
I think the Bengals are the biggest disappointment in the
sport this year, and the fact that they're doing what
they're the fact that they're so bad and compared to

(01:54:49):
what they should be, and they get such great play
from Burrow and from Jamal right now, it's just I
can't believe it. It's stunning to me. I didn't know
you could screw it up as badly as their defense
is tried to screw it up.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
This year right now, Dude, it's crazy in it, It
really is. It's insane how they just their defense is
just tragic.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
And you watch Knicks is going to move the ball. Yeah,
he's going to move the ball. You watch He's moving
the ball for sure. That's I like Bock. I like
what Peyton's done with him. You know, he's got a
little bit of a you know he's going to be
I think again, you have a good coach. I think
he's going to be good. I like the dow down

(01:55:29):
the field with Sulton. I think I think this game
is could be entertaining. I like the Bengals in it,
But I think it's gonna be entertaining game.

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
I think it's one of the best games of the weekend, honestly.
And you're right, bo Nicks has turned out like because
Sean Payton has done a masterful job. And I really
I think bon Nicks will have long term, will have
his limitations. But is he going to be a very
good quarterback? Sure looks like it. Is he going to
be in my mind? Is he gonna end up being
a world beater? No, but we'll see. I mean, he's

(01:56:00):
way ahead of where I thought it'd be in one year,
that's for sure. That's a testament to Sean Payton, you know, Joe.
On the other side of it, the Bengals are playing
with desperation here. I mean just I'm a little stunned
the Bengals defensive coordinator lou Anoumo has kept his job
considering how bad that defense has been now for two
straight years. I can't imagine why they didn't make a

(01:56:20):
change at some point this season. But now they're kind
of they are where they are, and you know, so
which defense of the Broncos defense can certainly get stops?
This is interesting to me because these are two teams
that believe they belong in the playoffs, and this this
is basically a playoff game.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
Yeah, now I will say, I mean the Bengals have
been they big crushed on defense with injuries too sure
up front right like so like you know, it's amazing, man,
you watch this sport and it's just so simple to
see if your stat up front, you were gonna you'll
be competitive defensively.

Speaker 3 (01:56:58):
That's it right.

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
Last night Washington State had no defensive line right because
of all the portal and they just couldn't stop Syracuse
at all. If you have no front, you're you're done.
You you just can't compete defensively. I think that was
the Bengals problem.

Speaker 1 (01:57:14):
Fat guys win football games on the front and on
the offensive defense.

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
Yeah, that's sure, all right, big our head, last hour,
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(01:58:40):
and Vikings and then Lions at San Francisco on Monday night,
and there it is. It's the race for the number
one overall seed in the NFC. Of course, Chiefs had
that wrapped up. We spent a good portion in Kansas
City earlier in the show. So now it's down to
the NFC and who gets the number one overall seed there, FITZI.

Speaker 1 (01:59:04):
Yeah, and the number one overall seed there is gonna
just be absolutely huge to have such a This is
a weird weekend in the NFL, I mean honestly, because
the way the schedule is laid out. As I mentioned earlier,
there's only a few games Sunday, and the few games
on Sunday, so many of them stink. Like I mean,

(01:59:25):
if we're being honest, Colts, Giants, Raiders, Saints, like, Jets, Bills, Cowboys, Eagles,
is okay? I mean you just go to Titans, Jags,
my god, two three and twelve teams taking each other
on like there are so many bad games. And then
to think through all of that that Monday night, we
will forget all of that because we get the Lions
and the forty nine ers, and the Lions have so

(01:59:46):
much to play for, you know. It's just it's wild
to think about how there are and I don't say
this lightly, there are more bad teams in the NFL
this year than I can ever remember in a single season.
Bad football everywhere, but the good teams are so stinking
good that it makes up for it, and that's wild.

(02:00:08):
I mean that is maybe it's not that different than
college football a lot of times, where there's just a
bunch of bad if you look up and down the list.
We've been talking about this for a couple of months now.
There are teams picking that would be picking in the
draft at nine, ten to eleven that most years would
be picking at one. They're so bad and all of
a sudden, you know, it's that's just the way it goes.
So we get a lot of bad football. Like I'm sorry,

(02:00:29):
it is hard to sit here and look at some
of these games and think they're great. But Packers Vikings
is gonna mask all of that like it is is
lipstick on a pig, because Packers Vikings is gonna be
so sticking good that we'll forget about the fact that
we have to suffer through Titans Jags to get there.

Speaker 2 (02:00:43):
All right, Well, let's let's dive into the stank, all right,
Oh yeah, let's get there. All right, Let's dive into
the stack, and we'll save our Super Bowl of Stank
Bears Raiders for last.

Speaker 3 (02:00:57):
Okay, let's go in the AFC. The stank is.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
I'll leave the Dolphins because they don't stank. They're just
missing something, right. But deep into the stag is the Jets.
I mean, what in the world are you going to
do next year with Rogers?

Speaker 1 (02:01:17):
There are people in the building that want to bring
him back, the people in the building that want to
run it back. And I just think when you have
a quarterback that stets up at the podium and talks
about being a professional, like the same quarterback that skipped
part of the OTAs and then just said, hey, it's
just an ota, it doesn't matter, you know, then when
we people have a quarteractice, yeah, I mean that's there

(02:01:38):
are I just don't know how you survive this element.
The Jets need to rip it all the way down
to the studts and just start over.

Speaker 2 (02:01:44):
And who's the coach? And by the way, who goes
in there? And because they need somebody to take control
of the damn thing. So now what do even place
and run it?

Speaker 3 (02:01:58):
Run it?

Speaker 1 (02:02:00):
That's the hardest part about it though, right I think
about it. Brother, when you're talking about putting an owner
in their place, which is virtually impossible to do, so
you're talking about ownership that stinks with the quarterback situation
that is complicated with salary cap that's near the middle
of the pack at best, and a draft pick that
is not going to be franchise saving. I mean, I

(02:02:21):
think it's pretty easy to make the argument that the Jets,
of all of the upcoming job openings, the Jets are
likely to be maybe the worst. According to Tankeathon. Right now,
they would have the ninth pick in the draft. They've
got a quarterback situation. Where do you bring back a
guy that at times has looked broken and at times
has looked okay. But either way, it's just a lightning

(02:02:43):
rod for everything. You don't want to have to deal
with a lightning rod for distraction. There's no culture of
championship there. They're there. It's hard to bring in that culture.
You've got weird contracts to work out across the board.
I just the Jets are a dumpster fire right now.

Speaker 2 (02:02:57):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. And they need somebody to
come in strong that can build it. That's that's definitely Listen.
New England's on the right path. I think, you know,
we'll see I like May and you've got to just
rebuild the whole thing. You're you're in the building mode.
I think you're kind of you're there, right, I mean,

(02:03:18):
this is what's going on the next three years is
a slog back to build great.

Speaker 1 (02:03:25):
And we had to know that this is where New
England was going to be. Like I think going into
the draft, everybody said, hey, I mean, I say, coming
into the year, why even play Drake made this year?
Your team stinks. You're gonna have to rebuild the whole roster. Okay,
Drake May has played pretty well. I think I think
Drake has shown that he's going to be a good
quarterback in this league. So you got your quarterback. And
right now, if the draft were today, you have the
second pick. So you're going to go out and get

(02:03:46):
Travis Hunter like he's for According to most people, he's
the best best player in this draft, and he's going
to be available to you too. You get a dynamic
playmaker you can this draft. They'll be able to get
two or three guys that can come in and help
and you start the slow rebuilding. It's gonna take next
year and another year for them to even get to competitive.

Speaker 3 (02:04:03):
In my mind, yep, yep. Agree.

Speaker 2 (02:04:06):
Brown's restructured Deshaun Watson, which probably single signals he's back
which is a complete disaster of a deal for the Browns.
Kevin Stefanski, I mean, God bless him. No chance with
that quarterback. They he can't play. I mean, I don't

(02:04:28):
know what you do if you bring him back because
of the salary cap. You restructure it, but you can't
play him. He's unplayable.

Speaker 1 (02:04:34):
And now you know it's funny because I remember not
long ago in this season, people were talking about fire Stefanski.
Hell if I'm Stefanski, give me out.

Speaker 2 (02:04:42):
Yeah, let me liberate me, liberate me from Deshaun Watson.
That's truth, all right. Jags and Titans, so they're both
three and twelve now. I left the Colts out because
I do like the Colts.

Speaker 3 (02:05:00):
I mean, I know it.

Speaker 2 (02:05:01):
Richardson needs a lot of work, but they got a
nice day. I still have the death some players. I
like Shane Stike, and I think Indianapolis is is not
in stank mode. I think they're kind of coming out.
Now you've got Jacksonville and Tennessee. Jacksonville, you're gonna have
a new coach. I don't know how you win there. Like,

(02:05:25):
that's another franchise with a lot of issues, So I
don't know how you win in Jacksonville. They're the same
thing where you're gonna need a gotta go in there
fix Lawrence right, because that's number one, and you're gonna
have to deal with, you know, three London games probably

(02:05:47):
during the course of the year, if not more. So
that's a tough job. Tennessee is a tough job. It's
hard to get them to win. You know, we've seen
them have be a playoff team type of thing, but
they need a love a love team that needs a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (02:06:03):
Levis is the answer.

Speaker 1 (02:06:05):
So I'm sorry, go ahead, buddy, No Levis Levis not
the answer in Tennessee. I think the harder question for
Tennessee is they got to take a good look in
the mirror. I know this team well. I lived in
Nashville for over twenty years, so yesses fans. I don't
say this lightly. I do not think that ran Karth
on the GM has done anything to show that he
deserves to be a GM in the NFL. I just
don't believe that he has. And frankly, I'm not sure

(02:06:27):
that Callahan has shown anything in one year that makes
you say, Okay, I understand the direction of where we're going.
I am a firm believer that what the Tennessee Titans
need to do. If they're going to draft a quarterback
this year and they need one, if they decide that
either came or should do or is the future of
the franchise, then they need to also look in the mirror,
like I've said repeatedly, and ask, is everybody in that

(02:06:48):
building the person that you want to develop Cam or
should whoever it is. I don't think they have those
guys in the like I would do a complete reset.
I would just absolutely reset the entire organization for the Titans.
If you're taking a quarterback, I would start that reset now.
If you're not taking a quarterback, then take the best
player available. Start the reset the next year when you
take a quarterback. But will Levis is not the answer.

(02:07:10):
You don't have an answer, And I don't think they
have a short or long term path to being competitive
where they are right now.

Speaker 2 (02:07:16):
All right in the NFC, and I think you're spot
along the Tennessee. The Giants are just tragic, tragic disaster.

Speaker 4 (02:07:27):
God.

Speaker 2 (02:07:27):
Yeah, And I thought Dabel was going to be a
good cook. I loved him in Buffalo, what he did
with Josh Allen and the offense. But man, they're a mess.
I mean I think partly the GM. I mean, it's built.
It was horrific the way it was built. You know,
first of all, you built it around Daniel Jones, that

(02:07:48):
you let Barkley go. I mean, there were so many
mistakes with the roster that it's almost it almost takes
Stable off the hulk in my mind.

Speaker 1 (02:07:57):
Yeah, And that's the hardest art about, you know, it's
just it's right there. The mistakes are right there. All
of the things that were done that could have helped
the Giants have been done the incorrect way for a
couple of years now. So you got to look within
and figure out is Daboll the guy at this point?

(02:08:17):
Because here's the thing. Dab All got to that job
because he was considered to be the great quarterback, whisper
and developer of Josh Allen. Now, guess what I mean,
Not for nothing, we've seen Josh Allen continue to ascend.
So maybe in this situation, when you're asking, well was
it Dabell or was it Josh Allen, maybe we need
to start giving Josh Allen a little bit more credit
in this situation for who he is as a quarterback

(02:08:39):
and maybe a little less shined to do.

Speaker 2 (02:08:41):
Yeah, although I felt the offense worked like so I
think in totality, so yeah, I agree with you. I
think you got to give I mean, you give Alan
all the props, but I think dabl did a good
job there.

Speaker 3 (02:08:52):
I think he was legit.

Speaker 2 (02:08:54):
I just look around, I go, how do I judge
the guy with no quarterback has had a quarterback?

Speaker 1 (02:09:02):
I totally agree with that. The unfortunate thing is that
and I'm not just saying this because the Raiders don't
have the number one overall pick. I don't believe that
cam Ward or Shador Sanders are anywhere near the sure
thing that we usually think of for a quarterback. So
the hardest part about this for all of these teams
we're talking about is I believe, in a normal draft,

(02:09:22):
if Sanity Rail was the norm, Shaudre and cam are
mid to late first round picks that you take a
flyer on and you develop and you see, hey, can
this guy be the guy? Neither of them are what
I think of for when I think of first overall pick,
I think it's Joe Burrow, and neither of these guys
to me look like Joe Burrow right now. So neither
of these guys, to most of the guys that I

(02:09:45):
talk to, look like Joe Burrow right now. So you know,
the unfortunate thing for the Giants is they are in
the unenviable position where they have to take a quarterback.
They do not have one. They need to press reset.
This is a terrible draft to need to do that.
And I don't care if we're talking about the Giants
of the Raiders. It's a terrible draft to need a quarterback. Kid.
Sure might work, I mean, heck yeah. And you might also,

(02:10:07):
as I say all the time, you might go to
the gas station today, you might buy a scratch off
lottery ticket, and it might be how you pay your bills. Congratulations.
But man, I wouldn't go to the bank and be like, hey,
I'm buying a car because I'm headed to buy the
scratch off lottery ticket. That's what this year's draft feels
like to me.

Speaker 3 (02:10:22):
Yeah, yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 (02:10:25):
Uh, Arizona kind of in no man's land a little bit.
I mean, you're locked in with Kyler?

Speaker 1 (02:10:34):
Is he your answer? Is it his fault? I don't.
I don't think it's his fault, But I don't think, man,
do any of us feel like is a franchise savor right?
Like there's this this middle of the ground and that's
middle ground on all of this is just man, Kyler
is just good enough to win you some games and
lose you some games. I don't I don't know what

(02:10:55):
the easy answer is for Arizona. I just I can't
look at Arizona and say and look, there's seven or eight.
This guy's not falling for Arizona. There's seven or eight.
I just don't look at Arizona and say, yeah, I
think we talk about disappointment. Marvin Harrison Junior this year
has been a disappointment. There's no nice way to say it.
I mean, he's not even the best rookie drafted. When

(02:11:16):
you talk about impacted wide receiver, Brian Thomas has been
far more impactful, you know. I mean it's kind of
alarming at this point when you look at what we
expected from Marvin Harrison Junior versus what we're getting. It's
a reminder that none of this is a sure thing,
because he was about as sure as he gets it.
He's been good. He's been good, but he hasn't been transcendent.
And so if you're Arizona, man, you got a lot

(02:11:39):
to figure out on how to jump from being okay
to being really good. I don't know that Kyler is
the guy, but I also think you run it back
with Kyler for another year because Kyler is better than
any option you're gonna have this year in free agency
or the draft.

Speaker 3 (02:11:51):
Yep. And then you got the Saints.

Speaker 2 (02:11:56):
I mean they're horrible, right, Like, if you need a quarterback,
you're going to even coach they're they're even a complete
rebuild to that team.

Speaker 3 (02:12:06):
That's pretty rough. That's a rough undertaking.

Speaker 1 (02:12:10):
This is the year I think it finally makes sense
for New Orleans just completely reset the whole thing. They're
According to over thecap dot com, they're always the worst
than this. But according to overthcap dot com right now,
they are sixty four million dollars over the cap next year.
So you know, they've been kicking the can down the
road for a long time. They get away with it
all the time, but you start to think about dead
cap next year. I mean, there's no way they're getting

(02:12:32):
rid of Derek Carr. As much as Derek Carr hasn't
been particularly good. A pre June first cut of Derek
Carr is a sixty three million dollar capit. They can't
take that. If they designated post June first, it's still
a twenty three million dollar cappit. There are already sixty
three million dollars over the cap. I just don't Derek
Carr is going to be the quarterback of the Saints
next year. And also, you know, as I keep mentioning,

(02:12:55):
look at where they draft this year, New Orleans is
going to pick tenth, and they're picking tenth behind several
teams that need a quarterback. So their best case scenario,
even if they wanted to draft a replacement, barring a
massive trade up, would be the fourth best quarterback maybe
in this year's draft. That's a third round pick in
this year's draft, not a first round pick. So and
I think the worst thing you can do, and I

(02:13:15):
don't care if we're talking about the Saints or even
you know, my beloved Raiders, the worst thing you can
do is trade up a bunch of equity to move
up for one of these guys this year. I just
it's already a crapshoot, a crap shoot with future you know,
future equity attached to it. That just feels gross.

Speaker 3 (02:13:31):
Yeah, gross, Oh man, are you kidding me? Poor Brianna
is crying.

Speaker 7 (02:13:39):
You're right, Brie hysterically crying. Yes, devastated, especially when fifty
said those numbers about the sixty three million, that's really depressing.

Speaker 1 (02:13:50):
They got no coach, They have roster holes everywhere, they
have no money. Like the best thing you can say
right now to me for the same since they've spent
a lot of years trying to delay this, this is
that come to Jesus moment. All right, just rip it apart,
you know, get through the next year. And while you're
getting through the next year, just take all the lumps

(02:14:11):
that you possibly can as quickly as you can, get
out as many contracts as you can, and start the slow, long,
painful process of rebuilding. And this is a big reminder,
the Patriots and the Saints are not that different. Things
look different when you have a Hall of Fame coach
and a Hall of Fame quarterback caliber quarterback. When you
have those two things, when you have greatness at coaching quarterback,

(02:14:31):
things seem really easy. When you don't, it isn't, you know.
And that's just that's the fact for both of them.

Speaker 2 (02:14:36):
That's true, and that leaves the Super Bowl bad because
both go back basically to the eighties. Nine other Raiders
had that blip with you know, my dear boy, my
dear friend, Lakey Kennedy, and you know, the Raiders had
that year, you know, I mean, geez, it was a

(02:14:59):
great run and unfortunately Tuck Roll probably killed that Super Bowl.
And then you know, the Mets started right after that,
right after Gruden the leaves, so after that, the Bears. Meanwhile,
I had that one Super Bowl you know, appearance in
the rain if you remember, But other than that, it's

(02:15:21):
really been a disaster, both with quarterback and coach.

Speaker 3 (02:15:27):
And it continues. Now.

Speaker 2 (02:15:28):
You know, you got a quarterback with Caleb Williams, but
he needs so much work. You gotta get him fixed.
The Raiders meanwhile, I don't know, I mean, I feel
bad for Antonio Pierce because how do you judge Antonio
Pierce without a quarterback?

Speaker 1 (02:15:44):
You don't, I mean, you can't. But at the same time,
there been this is where Raiders fans will yell and scream.
There have been mismanagement moments all over the place for
Antonio Pierce, and that that's all fair, But you either
have a quarterback, you don't you know and send stat
Lincoln Kennedy Raiders team since two thousand and two, two
thousand and two, let me say that again, when the

(02:16:06):
Raiders lost the Super Bowl. I've watched two winning seasons,
two total since two thousand and two. I've seen two
winning seasons. You want to talk about just historically bad
year after year after year. Two winning seasons in the
last twenty two years is just that's a level of
disgusting that I don't know how to even process. And

(02:16:29):
then you know, just looking quickly here one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
fourteen seasons in the last twenty two years with double
digit losses, think about that, like double digit losses fourteen times.
That's a level of aneptitude that is just currently unfixable.

(02:16:50):
It's unfortunately, it's a bad year. Need a quarterback. I
just there's not an easy answer for it, for any
of it. Like I'm ever the realist right now, and
ever the realist says that this team needs I don't know,
ten new starters, ten new starters, including a quarterback.

Speaker 9 (02:17:05):
And when you need that's good, Yeah, yeah, brock Powers
is a beast look and I talk about I talk
about wasted seasons, I'll be I'll be as I'm sitting
here with the Max Crosby signed jersey behind me, like
they have wasted Max Crosby year in and year out,
just wasted.

Speaker 1 (02:17:22):
Over and over and over again. A A elites could
end up being Hall of Fame caliber player has just
been wasted in his prime. It's it's wild to watch,
and you know, and so now what do you do?
Because when you know you're gonna suck, and you're gonna
suck for a minute and it's gonna take a long
time to rebuild this, Like, I just don't know. Do
you reach a quarterback and take a quarterback because you

(02:17:43):
have none, or do you just continue what Tom Telesco
did last year, which was best player available. I mean,
everybody I know tells me the Raiders were gonna take
Penix last year. They didn't expect that he'd be gone
he was, so they went best player available. This year,
I mean, you're gonna reach and trade up for Shador
or you're gonna sit back and just take best player available.
I don't know, man, I just know that there's not

(02:18:04):
an easy solution. Not an easy solution for the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (02:18:08):
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the brain do a little uh see he likes in
the game from a betting standpoint where the fellas hanging
out with you guys always we love it.

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Speaker 2 (02:18:34):
All right, welcome back, fellas from the Tyraq dot com studio.
Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargano and now Jordy Us After is
uh so journ to uh Europe? She was in Spain
and Iceland, FITZI bro gets around, man, what do you say,
my man?

Speaker 1 (02:18:54):
I mean, which did you prefer? Spain or Iceland? Let's
start there, like the over under which one's better?

Speaker 4 (02:19:00):
Well, not even for me, like not even remotely close.
I enjoyed Iceland, and I'm not even close. It was
the best trip I've been in in my life.

Speaker 3 (02:19:13):
I saw some of those pictures were think you sent me.

Speaker 4 (02:19:17):
The stuff I saw in Iceland was the best like
nature that I've ever seen. I beyond loved it. I
thought it was incredible. I like Spain. Don't get me wrong.
I enjoyed it and go back. But the stuff I
saw in Iceland was just absolutely phenomenous and called Diamond Beach.
Anyone ever trustfully on one thing in life, if you

(02:19:38):
ever wanted to make a trip and see something that
was the most beautiful than you've ever seen in your life,
google Diamond Beach and Iceland phenomenal. Cannot stress enough, nothing
like nothing else I've ever seen before. Be like watching
Joel be played back in that games just impossible.

Speaker 1 (02:19:54):
And I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:19:59):
I mean, I'm a big fan of the tapa Is
and uh that's Battish culture.

Speaker 4 (02:20:04):
So you know, look, I by the way, I got
to tell you, man, I tell you this. I I went.
I saw my first two in person soccer games, which
you're going to find this shocking, I think. I actually
I would rank it like in person probably my second
favorite sport for watch.

Speaker 3 (02:20:22):
I could say it. I could totally say it. I'm not.

Speaker 4 (02:20:25):
I really enjoyed it a lot. I loved it. I
didn't like it. I loved it. I would like I
would go every day to watch them. I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (02:20:32):
That doesn't surprise me. And I will tell you. I've
been lucky enough to go to a bunch of MLS games.
I know it's much different in the States, but MLS
games do a really nice job. I've been to soccer
in England and MLS does a really good job of
recreating it. I've never been to Spain, though Spain's on
the list. It's it's one of the.

Speaker 4 (02:20:48):
Yeah, a couple of games. The Athletico Madrid Stadium was
just phenomenal, like phenomenal, it was great. Listen, man, I
and I always say that when you lived long, if
you can you have the ability and time to see
other cultures of the world, it's just worth it in
my humble opinion. But you know, just if you have

(02:21:10):
the ability to do. I just think it's really cool
to see how other people live, what things they like,
what things they enjoy, how they spend their time. It's
just uh. I always try to learn, and so it's
always I love. I love to see new things, new places,
new experiences.

Speaker 3 (02:21:25):
That's fabulous. And you open up your kids mind, that's
that's awesome. All right.

Speaker 2 (02:21:31):
Let's if somebody wants to try to take a trip
to Iceland, let's try to help them pay for it.

Speaker 4 (02:21:35):
All right, well said about it.

Speaker 3 (02:21:40):
So a couple of things.

Speaker 2 (02:21:41):
Let's start off before we get to college, because we'll
go through the college all the college games, but NFL today.
So let's tackle the NFL today and tomorrow. Three games today.
I've off the bat. The Bengals stand out.

Speaker 4 (02:21:56):
To me.

Speaker 3 (02:21:59):
The thing.

Speaker 4 (02:22:00):
Yeah, I lit, I laid the three with the Bengals, Antony, listen,
I I just this is obviously there their super Bowl,
so to speak, and I just as great as them
for has been. And I don't think this is a
qute unquote bad number. I thought it would come in,
you know, three and a half fourish, I got three.

(02:22:21):
But I'm just saying like I thought they'd be like
some crazy favorite. But I just I just trusted this
game with all the things on the line. I just
trust Borrowing Company to get it done more than bo
Nixon Company. I just did this to meet again, this
is their super Well, I think they would escape by
at least touchdown. I really do.

Speaker 1 (02:22:43):
What do you think of the Cardinals rams Cardinals with
nothing to play for? Factor that sort of a matchup,
especially when we don't know what's up with James Conner.

Speaker 4 (02:22:50):
Well, I mean, listen, when you say in the pounds.
Obviously Cordres's been great for them. But when you say
they not to play for it, listen, the woman I
always will say about that is, you know, as long
as they're playing their players, these guys you would agree
to see, you're playing every single week for their jobs
in the sense that their auditioning, not for their team
like for some other teams. So I don't think like

(02:23:12):
players just started, I'm not trying this week or anything like.
I don't think it ever really happens. Now. Organizationally, you
could say, all right, you know, like for example, the
Cowboys are resting ceedee lamb, right, I think that stuff happens,
But I think the players are always giving quote unquote
max effort. I'm not expecting any of these guys to
look the line is pricey, right, I mean, if this
game was played two weeks ago, I think this line

(02:23:33):
would have been lere than three. Oh yeah, I think
with the must than three. I really do. In fact,
Arizona was power rated to be the better team, So
the only way I can look here would be Arizona.
Arizona me is one of those teams where I hate
them laying points, hate them taking points. They're always into
me and as that punters chance just because of the

(02:23:55):
uniqueness of Kayler, Murray rams to be not a team
I want to be laying points. It didn't bet the game,
but for me, easy lean would be the Arizona Cardinals
getting the plays with the Chargers. Ye know, look there
laying about six against New England first with Drake and May.
By the way, guys, I won't want to call it,
but I think he's incredible. I love Drake May everything

(02:24:18):
about this guy. I think he's absolutely going to be
a stud like him. Yeah, yeah, I really like Drake May.
I think he's going to be like one of these
quarterbacks the next twelve years. Really quite good. Only I
bet this game. I bet Ymandra Stevenson over ten and
a half rusher temps. He's going over at six in
his last seven games. I see no reason why I
shouldn't do it. Here a game against hit the Chargers,

(02:24:39):
a game of chitty relatively close. I only game trips
and they get away from there from the Patriots here
really going to fall behind by too many. Uh. That
was my favorite bet, and that particular game with Stevenson
over ten and a half rusher Temps. I think I
think the game will be I think I think six
is the right number in this game. Guys, I really
do all right, give me.

Speaker 1 (02:24:57):
To college football playoffs. I'm too excited. I got help me.
Help us figure out what to expect with one of
the games that we've been debating a lot today and
whether or not it's gonna be good or not. Notre
Dame Georgia. What do you see there?

Speaker 4 (02:25:10):
God, well, I mean it should be a good. Look.
I listen, I give look. Anthony. By the way, I'm
not sure if you said it on your show, but
on this Pholley Show he did say. For everyone listening.
Anthony was like five six weeks ago, we're talking about stuff,
and he goes, he loved Notre Name at twenty eight
or thirty one ops to win the title, and man,
if you had that ticket right now, that that could

(02:25:31):
pay for multiple trips fight. So that was his team,
and so I know he's probably a meaning mayor. You know,
it's interesting Georgia's team. I don't love it, Georgia, But
I actually did that Georgia at a pick here. Believe
it or not, You're like, I laid like a balansive team,
But I actually think Georgia couldn't win the game. Now.
For me, one of the reasons was having watched Georgia

(02:25:53):
play like, you know more, I think more or less
every game they played this year. I thought Carson Beck
was the most over to college athlete I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (02:26:03):
Like, I think, yeah, that's Georgia.

Speaker 4 (02:26:07):
Yeah, right on the blind Like on the blind, I like.

Speaker 3 (02:26:11):
Everything I heard about the kid. That kid. I think,
what is named to Gunner as your quarterback?

Speaker 4 (02:26:18):
And you did you see smart Anthony talking about him
at halftime? There's just something that like, again, look you
always need toe quote unquote coach speak, but it seems
like a really like like.

Speaker 3 (02:26:29):
Kid, Yeah, yeah, your cat smile about that?

Speaker 4 (02:26:33):
Yeah, something like that. And and I look, Notre Dame. Look,
they clearly outclass Indiana. They did. And I mean there's
no other way of saying they Indiana clearly. Again. I
remember I said either you believe you don't believe in
them in the beginning, and they they turned out to
be fake. They had the easy schedule, and then when
they stepped up in class against Ohio State, they got

(02:26:55):
absolutely trounced. They step up in classed against Notre Dame
they and I hate it with their co guy was
just talking smack like crazy. Man, he's punting on my
fourth and two's at midfield when you're down by multiple
touchdowns in the fourth quarter. But anyway, I did bet Georgia. Again.
I don't think it's a bad number by any stretch,
but I think Georgia will win a close game here

(02:27:19):
because again, to me, I just think any I guess
maybe I'm being summer. I just think that the I don't.
I think that the quarterback was holding them back all year,
and I actually trust them a little bit more on
I trust start naming to score a few more points there,
I do.

Speaker 3 (02:27:34):
All right, let's say the big the best game for
last fits. You can talk about that.

Speaker 2 (02:27:39):
Yeah, the two mismatches, Yeah, either of Boise or Arizona
State and have a chance to keep it close or
which one does the best?

Speaker 4 (02:27:50):
Listen, I do think that that of the two, I
think Boise has the much better chance to keep me
a close anthy, Look, I'll be on the Penn State.
To me, look, I think they're a solid team, don't
get me wrong. And again I call this tournament to
James Franklin Invitational because I'm pretty convinced that James Franklin
was the one who set these playoffs up because he

(02:28:12):
got a draw of all draws, and I don't know
how he was able to do it, but this was
the all time draw for Penn State. But I actually,
you know, when I look, I watched Penn State play
again all their games this year. This is the team
that's I mean they, I mean they're not some unbeatable
team either. Just like was he have me? Three weeks
ago fifty Minnesota lost to them by a point. Minnesota, Yeah, uh,

(02:28:37):
and I and I certainly think Boise, as crazy as
he is, theoretically better than Minnesota. Maybe I'm not saying
by a ton, but I I don't think Penn I
watched again, going back in time, watching the Penn State
USC game in USC completely outplayed them and lost. I
don't think Penn State's that great. I don't. I think

(02:28:58):
they're a solid team. I think are a good team,
but I don't think they're a team. Again, we talk
about teams with margin that they did do it against SMU,
but again, I think part of that was you were
a cold weather team against a team that had no
interest in playing them. The cold in that game, or
they absolutely traunged SMU. I will say that if the

(02:29:19):
game had played in the warm weather atmosphere, I just
felt like every possible thing in the world win against
SMU in that game, to make that game probably a
lot more deceiving than it really could have been if
it was played in a different climate. I think with
the running game that Boise he has, I think they
can keep this game close. I do eleven points to me,
it's just a little bit too high. Out of those

(02:29:42):
two games, I think I actually do like the boys
sid I did that Boise. I think they do keep
it less than eleven the other game. I definitely think
Texas is a totally different class than ASU. But again,
fourteen points, guys, I have no interest, no interest in
laying fourteen points in any of these kind of games
because I at all year, I don't think any team Georgia,

(02:30:03):
Notre Dame, Texas, Oregon, Ohio State, I don't think any
of these teams merits being like a fourteen point favorite,
because I think any of these teams can be beaten
that thing on any giving Sunday in this case, any
given Saturday or whatever. Yeah, I think any of these
teams can be beaten, so to me, my side would
actually still be ASU, but I'm not betting it. And
out of the two, I definitely for Poise.

Speaker 3 (02:30:25):
All right, we got We're up against it real quick,
Ohio State Oregon.

Speaker 4 (02:30:29):
I like the over, like the over. That's how I
bet this game. Lean Oregon, Lean Oregon, especially if you
can get a three. Because think I made this game
of pick. I did two and a half two to
the over, but I like over fifty five points. I
think both teams get mid you know, at least mid twenties.
I really believe. I think both teams get to thirty.
I think this is going to be a great game,

(02:30:52):
and I think both offenses will have a lot of success.
I see no reasons why either defense is going to
really slow down either offense. Here again, I think that
they played this all.

Speaker 2 (02:31:00):
Right, love it anything else? Bowl games or NFL tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (02:31:05):
And again, yeah, I listen, guys, I I believe in
the Minnesota Vikings. I think they are better in every
aspect in Green Bay offense, defense, coaching every single aspect
at home. Now laying a point, I don't understand that line.
I think I should have been posted at least two
and a half, and I think I have the better
team at home that they just have to win the

(02:31:26):
game and take my chances with the Blakers.

Speaker 3 (02:31:28):
There you go. Good luck to you, my brother.

Speaker 4 (02:31:30):
Appreciate have your back.

Speaker 3 (02:31:31):
Brain, appreciate it your brother there, he is the brain.
We'll come back. Wrap it up, fellas right here, Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (02:31:40):
Fellas Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargatto from the tire rack dot
Com studios.

Speaker 3 (02:31:46):
There you go, buddy, thanks you your song.

Speaker 1 (02:31:49):
No no, no, no, we have we have fella on
Fella Crime. I have just found fella on Fellow Crime.
From this show scrolling through Instagram during the commercial, flipping
through looking at stories. Let me see a story from
the Fox Sports Radio studio from one Bri posted on
Instagram a picture in the studio with the picture of

(02:32:12):
the Grinch next to her microphone and it says only
when it worked during this shift that thinks Christmas music
should end when Christmas is like over. So I'm like
the Grinch apparently, and she didn't tag any of us
in it, so she threw us completely under the bus.
As a show. We were sub tweeted on Instagram. I

(02:32:34):
don't even know what the right term for that is
by our bit like fella on fella crime has occurred.
There's been a murder, There's been a murder, and it's
been fell crime. I did so. I was just like, no,
I'm not. I just really.

Speaker 8 (02:32:50):
Again, guy, you broke my heart. Heart you are Fredo Man.

Speaker 1 (02:33:01):
I knew it was you. I knew it was you.

Speaker 3 (02:33:04):
You're never supposed to take sides against the family.

Speaker 1 (02:33:07):
Bree oh Man.

Speaker 7 (02:33:08):
Just acknowledging who I am. Who you guys think I am.
You guys think I'm the Gridge. So I'm just saying, hey, y'all,
I'm the Grinch. Apparently you don't keep things either.

Speaker 1 (02:33:19):
We don't keep things in house. She went straight out.
She went straight to social media to throw the Fellows
under the bus.

Speaker 7 (02:33:24):
I was going to post the Instagram. I was going
to post the podcast after and be like, what do
you guys think.

Speaker 1 (02:33:31):
Hurt?

Speaker 2 (02:33:33):
Sounds like you got a little upset because we were
saying we wanted the Christmas music to keep playing.

Speaker 3 (02:33:40):
No we we You see watfully, you see you see
what happened? Called you Gridge like you see And I'm.

Speaker 7 (02:33:50):
Just acknowledging and sating to the world I'm a grinch.

Speaker 3 (02:33:54):
You guys, you were staying for sympathy. Like, guys, you're
still looking for Christmas music, aren't they?

Speaker 1 (02:34:03):
Losers? And all comes out. I'm in the minority.

Speaker 7 (02:34:06):
I understand that you guys are all part of the
Christmas loving music family. Okay, I understand. I'm the grinch
all up in the hill. Okay, with better eyebrows and
better eyelashes. But that's different, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:34:21):
Oh God, see how it comes out. You see how
it comes out of the ridge. You can feel the ridge.
Oh my gosh, Fitzy.

Speaker 7 (02:34:28):
I would never have expected this from you.

Speaker 1 (02:34:31):
I know, I know, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:34:34):
I just you were in that club in Cuba and
you're like, you know, I know Johnny Ola and.

Speaker 8 (02:34:41):
You you would never go to his place, right, And
all of a.

Speaker 3 (02:34:44):
Sudden it was like, oh my god, I am gone
in by one of our family.

Speaker 1 (02:34:50):
It's just fact.

Speaker 7 (02:34:51):
I'm just acknowledging what I am.

Speaker 1 (02:34:53):
What you thinking of? My god?

Speaker 3 (02:34:57):
Social media? Oh my oh god?

Speaker 1 (02:35:01):
A rat.

Speaker 7 (02:35:03):
It's not being a rat, it's just fat.

Speaker 3 (02:35:06):
That's rat.

Speaker 1 (02:35:07):
S cock my gosh.

Speaker 7 (02:35:09):
You guys gonna get Shay back next week or.

Speaker 1 (02:35:11):
What I feel?

Speaker 6 (02:35:13):
I push buttons, somebody tells me to push a button.
I push a button.

Speaker 3 (02:35:19):
You're a good button guy.

Speaker 1 (02:35:20):
Mark tom Hagen next to.

Speaker 3 (02:35:24):
Me, Fredo, oh Freido. I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 (02:35:31):
She broke my heart in my car course shook all
the way in my core. Oh my god.

Speaker 7 (02:35:36):
I just can't believe this has been taken so personally.
And I'm the sensitive one. I'm sensitive, Sally, honestly, really, really.

Speaker 2 (02:35:43):
We were just talking about hey breeze, all right, if
you if if Mark played a little Christmas music to
me at least New Year's.

Speaker 1 (02:35:51):
I told you I got a look. I told you, Yeah,
I don't know. This definitely supports the look theory.

Speaker 3 (02:35:56):
This, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:35:57):
And then how about the way she says it too,
like Christmas is over. I mean it's a direct shot.

Speaker 7 (02:36:06):
Because Christmas is over. That's just fact.

Speaker 1 (02:36:09):
I said.

Speaker 7 (02:36:10):
Holiday music is fine, it's the most wonderful time of
the year is fine. But anything Christmas related I just
don't get it.

Speaker 2 (02:36:17):
Yeah, yeah, Well the argument takes place again. It's not
even New Year's Like, can you give it? You know
right away you want to end a joy? Can you
give it till New Year's?

Speaker 5 (02:36:27):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (02:36:28):
Yes, enjoy brief.

Speaker 2 (02:36:31):
Anyway, we love you guys. We love you, break have
a great, happy New Year, safe, blessed,

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