The Fellas with Anthony Gargano & Jason Fitz recap Super Bowl 59, talk College Basketball & NFL Offseason Look Around

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Thank you, Bree. Yes, the great Merril Reese who's been.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
A voice of the Eagles for I don't know fifty years,
as long as I can remember. The UH Champs is
pretty wild yesterday in my city.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
They estimated I thought light. I mean I was at
both of the parades. This one was larger than the
last one in twenty nineteen. It was our twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
It was wild. I mean it was a wild scene.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Goodlock in Philadelphia from South Philly where Lincoln financial Field
and the Brigade commenced down Broad Street, which is the
main thoroughfare of the city, right at by City Hall,
and then onto the Parkway to the Art Museum steps

(01:05):
and all the speeches. Great day in my town yesterday,
celebrating the Eagles as the Super Bowl Champs.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Good morning, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
We are the Fellaws Jason Fitzam, Anthony Gargano, as we
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Speaker 4 (01:35):
Were you at the parade? Like, did Saquan pull you
over the gate?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:39):
What do we got here? What's the parade tradition here
for the Gargano family? Were you taking the kids to
the parade? What do we do now?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I was there. I was doing work, So I was
at the parade.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
You know, it work, but we get a capturing the
whole thing, and.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
It was it was, you know, it was awesome. I
gotta tell you, it's it still amazes me because.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
The gridlock that started at you know, seven o'clock in
the morning, it was.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
It was pretty wild. Man.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
The town loves it fits it's uh, you know, it's
a very passionate city and it was, uh.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
It was. It was a party yesterday, mad.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
I mean, they are the kids proparade or like where
are we on? Just like his look, I'm gonna be honest.
I don't have a lot of experience with championship parades.
So yeah, the kids from school but yeah, ok, kid, yeah, yeah,
all the schools were off.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
The kids were off.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
They decided they won to hang with their friends, so
they were watching it with their buddies on TV.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
So which was fine, you know, I was like, yeah, go, guys,
come on, Daddy's got you, and uh, they want.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
To be with their buddies, so you know, it's all good.
It was one of those days. It was just a memorable,
beautiful remembrance of what sports can do to a community.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Man.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Sports calvinizes communities. It's it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Man.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
When people come together and are happy, and we have
two million happy people in the streets.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
It's a lot like rapture, it must be. Like. So
it was. I hope.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
I mean this, it sounds stupid, but I really hope
that for those towns that never gotten to experience that
kind of parade, for you, FITZI, that they're still looking.
I hope you get to experience it, because it's, Uh,
it's cool, man, it really is.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
I think it's it's amazing because you're right when you
talk about what these championship moments represent, and it just
makes you think about we all know the NFL's king,
but when you start talking about particularly Super Bowl trophies
and the imagery from its us such a special moment,

(04:03):
and sometimes especially because we've had a couple of dynasties lately,
championship has become sort of an eye roll thing, you know,
where it's like, hey, here we go again. I don't know,
I felt like time stopped for a second for everybody
that that is not that doesn't get to experiences as often,
and you just feel how, I don't know special, how
different it is, how much it hits That's why, like
I'm a huge fan. It's it's it's funny to me,

(04:25):
you know, Like I said, I went out to Vegas
for the Golden Knights Parade and for the Vegas Aces Parade,
and it's just just because to me, it's like, man,
I just want to be around this energy, Like I
want to be around this this level of incredible joy
for a franchise, you know, I just it's I keep
watching the scenes from yesterday, and it reminds you of

(04:48):
how much it means to fan bases when they don't
get it as often. It's just it hits different.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, it's uh, it's intoxicate, man, it really is.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
It's it's I got I tell you. I was wondering
how it would be because remember that franchise didn't win
any up until twenty nine, twenty eighteen, and in twenty
eighteen it was you know, this party was Kelsey in
a in a mombers outfit, which is a big.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Parade that we have in this town in the years.
And so it was like this, this.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Whole kind of thing, and you know, you know, it
was the first one, so you can only have one first.
And so we heard this nine years later and they're
having another one, and or eight years later and they're
having another one, and you go, oh my god, what's
it going to be like? And it was bigger, and

(05:44):
it was I think the first one, they were still
in shock, and I think this one they really just partied,
like they just enjoyed themselves. Again, it was it was bigger.
It was market league bigger. The town swelled just really

(06:05):
swolled up. They were swelled up. It was it was
wild man, I'm just thinking about it now. And uh,
it was. It was amazing. I mean right from the
early morning and it was it was very festive and happy.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
And look, I do think that this town expected it.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
They were they believed Eagles were the better team, and
you know, I think it was pretty obvious. I think
this this whole thing has been a party for you know,
for a couple of weeks now. I remember that they
win the championship game in a in a.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Pretty easy fashion against Washington, and then you know, the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
There was no drama that game. We'll talk all about it,
but there was no There was no drama. So this
parade was building and building and expected.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
That's an amazing place to be in because it is funny,
know the running joke, not even joke with the commentary.
How many times have I said it? It's like, man,
the only way you beat the Chiefs is if you
blow them out. And you know, nobody blows them out. Well,
they did Super Bowl. They certainly did. There's no doubt
about it, you know, and that changes It's it's alarming
when you've got you know what I always call a

(07:17):
beer game in the Super Bowl, you're putting your feet
up in the second half and you're like, I mean,
for every fan that's been able to enjoy a Super Bowl,
which is already such an incredible thing, to be able
to enjoy a Super Bowl where midway through the second half,
like you're celebrating the memories with your friends, like the
game is just the game is in hand. It's one

(07:40):
of the more stunning parts of the process that we'll
remember for a long time on that one, Like this
wasn't a nail bier all the way down to the
end of how are we possibly going to keep it
away from a homes? This was just a thorough ass whooping.
You know, that's a that's a that's a different fun
way to enjoy a football.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Game, dude.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I mean, I mean, we listen, you know again, we
don't have a ton of experience. And the Super Bowl thing, right,
you know the four the uh five, I guess it was.
It was February oh five, Eagles lose to New England,
and then in eighty nineteen eighty Eagles lose to your Raiders,

(08:18):
and you know again it was twenty eighteen, and then
you know last week, I mean, that's it and they
only won one. And so this was it was wild.
I was with you know, my family and a couple
of friends, my cousin, and it was it was just
a great It was a great night. Like I enjoyed

(08:40):
that a lot. I mean, it was just one of
the great knights that you'll ever have, that you'll ever
experience your team winning in a route and the way
they did it was many very much a Philadelphia dream,
like a team that embodied the city that this is
pretty much a fan of defense. And you know, unsung people,

(09:05):
the Quakers found in Philadelphia, so they're they're always about
the collective, and I think this team was about the collective.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
It was a great defense. I mean, that's how you win.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
They won up front, completely dominated the Chiefs offensive line.
I don't know about you, Fitzi, but you know, I
hear people talking about Andy Reid no adjustments, and I'm like,
what are you adjusting to? You couldn't Patrick Mahomes couldn't breathe.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
There was no adjusting that you could do. There's nothing.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
You're to run the run the ball, Okay, good luck,
go try You're gonna get back in the game running
the ball, all right. Like I don't I don't see
I don't see any of it. We'll talk about it,
but I'm not sure what you could do.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
They're even showing repeatedly, and I think it's fair to
show a lot of these, you know, highlight low lights
of Travis Kelcey the way he played this game. He
was slow, you know, and that's been ripped all over
social media. But it's just a reminder that you can
call all the things that you want to call, but
if your guys just aren't capable of executing. I mean,
it's just this is the second time we've seen Mahomes

(10:15):
and the Chiefs get their ass kicked in the Super
Bowl because their offensive lines just can't hold up. And
that was, you know, probably one of the most predictable
portions of that game. We all knew that that was
gonna be the thing. And I'm with you, like the
concept of well, what are you doing to adjust to it?
I just it pretends that there's one magical thing that

(10:36):
you were gonna suddenly do that was gonna leave Mahomes
up right, And I just don't think that they had
the horses to be able to execute that against that
that defensive line. And if anything, it's just a reminder
to the rest of the AFC. Frankly, we spend all
of this time, all year just obsessed over whether Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson, or Joe Burrow can beat Patrick Mahomes. And
it's like, y' all, the method is right here. It's

(10:58):
not easy. It's not easy to find a front four
that's going to get home without blitzing. But let's just
be real. If I'm working on roster construction in the
AFC or in the AFC West, particularly, I may never
have a quarterback that's better than my homes. Like, if
that's the line in the sand, you don't need to
have that. You need to have a defensive line that

(11:19):
can absolutely whoop their offensive lines ass And I mean
that we prove a concept of it twice. So it's
just this is like, and I'm sitting here looking at
the draft coming up that has somebody like Abduel Carter
that seems to be the clear best pass rusher, and
I'm looking at the rest of the AFC and saying, hey, guys,
keep it simple, Like it's just how many hogs can
you get up front? They can get after my homes

(11:41):
that's the way you beat him. So you know, I
think this guy isn't falling, and I don't think that
there's one great adjustment, but I do think that this
is just a reminder to the rest of the AFC, Hey,
don't just obsessed with your quarterback. You get the guy
that impacts the quarterback as well.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, and don't just upset upsess on offense.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
One of the things the Eagles have done with Howie
Roseman and It's why they've won two now and it's
a short period of time. Is they've done it the
same way. They've done it with incredible play in the
trenches on both fronts. The O line, they didn't miss
a beat Jason Kelsey retires, and they didn't miss a

(12:26):
beat at center with Cam Jurgens right the Atlanta Dickerson's
come in like he's another young player who is who
has contributed right away. Their big off season signing was
Mackai Becton at right guard and he slotted in nicely

(12:47):
next to Lane Johnson to have a mammoth right side
of their offensive line that helped Saquon all season. I
mean they're that Jordan Malatta, another former rugby player who
is one of the best left tackles in football.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I mean, that's how you win.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
That that that's it's the most unsexy right now. They
have a great O line coach, Jeff Statlin, who is
like this legendary figure.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
But that's how you win.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
You win when you have an O line like the
Eagles do, and when you have a D line. Look
they spent uh you know they how he built the
whole defense with all those Georgia kids and Jalen Carter,
in my eyes, was the co m VP with Jalen Hurts,
the two Jalens.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
It was.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
You know, Carter was doubled and triple all night and
still created havoc. The pressure up, the up in the
a gap up in the middle just completely destroyed Mahomes
because they were winning on the outside one on one battles.
Carter was just wrecking the game plan because every time

(14:02):
my Home's tried to pure a watter step up in
the pocket, he's stepping up in the pressure and that
front led by Carter and help by Nolan Smith on
the outside and another Georgia Kidd, another first round pick.
You know, they didn't blitz. It was amazing. Vic Fangio
didn't blitz once all night. He had a couple of

(14:24):
zone blitzes, which mean he dropped Nolan in the coverage
and then brought Zack Bond off the edge.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
But he didn't rush five all night.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
That's the wildest stat To get the second most saxon
Super Bowl history and never rush five all night is
just that that's just a level of individual one on
one domination. It's and look, I think it's important to
remember just not not because everything has to be defined
by it, but it's there's context to why Jalen Carter

(14:56):
was available in the draft. When he was available, I
think most most people doing their draft analysis that year
thought he was one of not the number one, He
was the number two player in that entire draft. In
different circumstances he would have been available, he would have
been drafted earlier. I think that's all fair to say.
It's the one time in my years of covering the draft,

(15:16):
like what I've covered it nine years, the only time
that I ever had to pre write something to get
it approved was the year that Jalen Carter was eligible
to be drafted. We had to write a statement on
exactly you know, the charges that were up against them
and all of those things like or whether or not
Chargers would be file I should say, so you know,
it's there's context to why Jalen Carter was available. And

(15:38):
but what you've seen as a transcendent player in the
NFL that has done an amazing job of bringing the
best of what he does to the Eagles, and the
huge benefit they get from it is that you know,
he's he's absolutely a superstar. It's an unblockable superstar. And
that's there's just you felt the impact of that that
the course of the entire game, the ability to constantly

(16:00):
get home from everywhere, like there was no answer. The
Chiefs have been sort of putting a band aid on
a gash wound for a long time with that offensive
line this year, and then it finally you finally took
on a defensive line that was just left to right,
man to man, every single one of them was better.
And so, you know, it just it felt like from
the outset, oh wow, this is this is such an

(16:22):
ugly matchup nightmare. And you and I both said going
into the game, I thought they'd have to move the
pocket a lot. I thought that they'd have to get
rid of the ball quickly. Well, hard to get rid
of the ball quickly when you're not getting any separation too,
Like I just this, this whole thing was failed by
the Chiefs from the outset because it just was a
a terrible matchup. And you know that that's that's what

(16:43):
made it beautiful for the Eagles. And that's why if
you're the Chiefs, you're going back to the drawing board
and you're just gonna have to ask yourself, how do
we analyze better talent on the offensive line and that
that's man, that's not an easy question. That seems to
be the whole and that's the weakness and roster construction
for the chief. You still gonna have to look in
the mirror and figure out how to get that better
fast because it's asking a lot of Mahomes to do

(17:05):
this every single week.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Well, you turn around and you go, oh my god,
how did they win all those games? Yep, that's the
first thing that you got. And then you realize some
of the matchups, right, You go, all right, so you
had home field, so you didn't have to play the
first week, then you have.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
The prison.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
But but you realize why that game was so close,
because what did the Texas have. Texas have a front
and the Texas were able to pressure me, not like
the Eagles, but the Texas were able to pressure and
hunt Mahomes. Where the Bills messed up is the Bills
they their front was not dominant.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Right, And that's that's the frustrating thing to me for
everybody in the AFC that's trying to catch Homes like
I just I don't know. I felt like I was
watching the obvious answer to the question super Bowl, how
do you beat the Chiefs?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, here it is. And so then I get frustrated
because I'm looking around thinking, like a team like the Bengals,
they're the one that is taken down my homes during
all of this, right, and then they surround their superstar
quarterback with just the biggest trash defense we've seen in
how long? And I'm watching the Eagles and I'm saying, man, like,
there's an actual cheat code to all of this, Like

(18:22):
there's a very real, this is what you have to
do cheat code, Like maybe we should be following that,
like it. It's so frustrating to me that a team
like Buffalo, for example, they just haven't been able to
put together the defensive front that they need to to
beat a team like the Chiefs, like this is, this
is a beatable Chiefs team, and only the Eagles seem

(18:43):
to have uncracked the path here. And it makes no
sense to me.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, and that's interesting because that's exactly what you know,
kind of doomed the rest of that conference. Like you
are back and you go the Bills are better and
the Ravens are better, right, Like you know, if you're
gonna be honest about it, and.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
It's the one they have superior coaching.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
But like that, I mean, you know, and again I
heard the criticism on Andy Reid.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
You tell me, I didn't see where Andy tried. I
know he tried to move the pocket. I know he
tried a couple things. They tried to get quick. Every
time they got those quick hitters to the edge, they
got blown up. Because the Eagles are really good. The
Eagles defense is great, like not just their front. They

(19:38):
they're a lying Zach Bond is a great player. Cooper
de Jean is a rookie and he dominated that game.
Quinna Mitchell on the outside is a rookie. They're they
have a great young defense man.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yeah, that's a I would I would genuinely ask what
adjustments people think would been made that would have changed
the fact that the Chiefs for getting their ass kicked.
That's just I don't think there's anything they could have
done to prevent that ass kicking. That was meant to
be and that was going to happen in the course
of that game no matter what Andy Reid did.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
All right, let's take a quick too, and we'll come
back and we'll pick up the little you know, go
through the whole game and do everything else. And they
kind of set the stage for next year and we're
going to say go by the football for a little while.
Oh man, that that that depresses me. I want to

(20:35):
relived the whole thing again, all right with a fellas
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Speaker 3 (21:01):
Fellas, Welcome back live for the Fox Sports Radio studios.
That's who we are, the tire rack dot com studio station.
Fitz Anthony Gargano. You know, listen to the there's a
snippet from Dan Patrick talking about the Chiefs and just

(21:23):
the amount of cheer games that you wind up playing
during this incredible run that begins in twenty twenty and
you know, all of the Super Bowls, and it really is.
It's astounding when I hear people talk about the end
of the dynasty or the end of the Chiefs period.
I mean, I don't see that. I don't I don't

(21:45):
think that they're gone. You know, Patrick Wahall is twenty
nine years old. Everybody acts like that. You know, he's
he's at the end like Brady was. I mean, he's
still got a lot of good football left. I mean, yeah,
you gotta rebuilt droffeds of line. But I don't think
they got anywhere.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
I mean, this, this flawed team that just got crushed
in the Super Bowl still got to the super Bowl.
Like I think that's the It still got to the
super Bowl through the gauntlet of the AFC. Like when
we're sitting here talking about who beat this version of
the Chiefs, it wasn't Josh Allen and the Bills. It

(22:24):
wasn't Lamar and the Ravens. It wasn't Joe Burrow and
the Bengals, like it was this bad matchup against the Eagles.
So I guess my as we started talking this whole,
this whole show today about you know, I think that
the path that kind of there and and there's there's
a way you can attack the Chiefs. Let's be honest.
As flawed as this Chiefs team was, the Bills didn't

(22:48):
take advantage of that. Like, so for anyone that's gonna
sit here and tell me that they're dead, or that
this dynasty's over, whatever it is. I just we're not
even close. So this is a team that lost one
regular season game that actually counted, and then another one
at the end when they didn't care. So like this,
this damaged version of the Chiefs won a bunch of

(23:08):
games they shouldn't at all. Okay, Well, they certainly won
their way through the playoffs pretty convincingly until they got
to the super Bowl. So like, I just yeah, the
presumption that there's a massive long term problem with the
Chiefs here, I think is fools cold. What my answer
to anybody is, Okay, if you think that this version

(23:30):
of the Chiefs means the dynasty is dead, why wasn't
it dead two weeks before? Because this certainly, this beatable version,
this blowout able version of the Chiefs still represented the
AFC in the Super Bowl, like the Bills couldn't get them.
They tried, the Bills couldn't get them. So you know,
I just to turn this into a narrative that the

(23:50):
Chiefs are dead, I think is absolutely ignorant.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
I just I don't say it. I don't say it all.
I mean, again, those are back to the Super Bowl.
But I think they're going to be in a mix.
You know, Bills aren't only where, Ravens aren't only where.
I think the Chargers are a team that could step up.
I mean, you know Dever's will to rise. I mean,
we'll go through it.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
And yeah, but think about that.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
They just think about that. Like my answer to all
is why why didn't they get him this year? This
version of the Chiefs was so bad they didn't get
him this year. So you know, because I hear you, certainly,
I think the Bills and the Ravens are supposed to
represent the hope of the AFC moving forward, But man,

(24:37):
I don't know. I just the flawed Chiefs won fifteen
regular season games, and the flawed Chiefs still had home
field advantage in the playoffs, and the flawed Chiefs still
went to the Super Bowl. So I got, Yeah, all
of these other teams are are very good and you
never know. But if the thought was, man, this version

(24:59):
of the Chiefs is is not going to be easy
to stop two weeks ago. That didn't change from the
Super Bowl because the team that finally beat them, they're
not going to have to face till the Super Bowl,
so like to me, it's just it's fool's goal from
the AFC to sit and pretend it means the Chiefs
are dead.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, you know, I mean, let's face it, right, you
know they're One of the things that was interesting is
it shows you how important home field is, right because
by getting home field throughout, you're able to miss the Ravens,
like you didn't have to go through Baltimore and Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Like I don't know that they could have gone through both.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
The Texans taxed them, but you know, had they played
the Ravens the week before, I don't know if that,
if they were able to overcome having to play both
those teams, Baldemore could have got them, or after playing
such a really tough, tough game, you know, they Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Maybe that was that one little piece that Buffalo needed, right.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah, man, I don't know. I just I feel
if I'm the Chiefs, the last thing I need to
do is panic. Right now. I need to figure out
my offensive line. I need to get some better weapons.
I think we all know that I need to make
the offense a little easier from a homes there are
things that I can do to make this all better.

(26:28):
But man, we're going to presume that the Chiefs don't
have an offseason too. They still have one of the
best front offices in the NFL and one of the
best coaches of all time.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
And they didn't have Racy Rice too. Yeah, really good.
Like so when you have Rights and Worthy, they're really good.
I do think you need an update. You know, the
check was good. I think you can use another back
and you know it goes back to your front, right,
you get that offensive line has been was a problem

(27:00):
all year long. They stuck the band aid on by
moving Tony outside, but like you saw in that game,
Nolan Smith abused him on the outside, I manhandle him
and so by doing that, you weaken two positions. Caliendo
got destroyed in the middle and Tony killed the outside

(27:22):
and the rest of the line that played well either.
So you know you're gonna have to fix that, Like
that's number one priority, which is that is to fix
that line. We could talk about weapons and you know,
the running back and this and that, it comes down
to our front, comes down to their line.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
I mean, that's why and I think that's why those
games were close all year long.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
No.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
I mean that's to me, you had the weakest version
of the Chiefs who we've seen all year, and they
still won fifteen games. I just you know that that
has to be a statement of something, and you're right,
like the offensive I'll go back to there are certain
organizations that just don't seem to do the best at
particular positions. For years living in Tennessee, it was a

(28:09):
constant conversation in Nashville why they just as an organization
they could never identify wide receivers. It's just they struggle
with that year in and year out. And there are
certain teams that we know identify, they struggle to identify
certain positions. I do wonder if the Chiefs, you know,
are struggling a little bit in this era, because it's
not the first time that they've had some issues with

(28:30):
their offensive line. That being said, that hasn't prevented them
from being in the AFC Championship. Like that's the part
when we start talking about, you know, the death of
this dynasty, and then I think about the fact that
Patrick Mahomes in his career has never at least been
in the AFC Championship game. To me, before we think
anything is actually broken with the Chiefs permanently. Let's see

(28:52):
them not get to the AFC Championship Game once for
the love of God, you know, So like what defines
broken here because this team, for all of its failings,
was in the Super Bowl. So you know, until I
see Patrick Mahomes finish the season that doesn't end in
at least the AFC Championship Game, I'm not going to

(29:13):
presume that there's anything wrong with the Chiefs that can't
get fixed.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
No, No, now you're it's a great point. No, it
really is.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
It's a it's a it's a great point. It goes
back to again, how you build it and now you're
how you're draft. I mean, you know Howie roseman man
he is. He solidified himself as the best GM in football.
I mean what he did to that defense. He rebuilt

(29:43):
that entire defense in just a couple of years. And
he's made and it's young. The scary thing about the
NFC is Carter's young. Nolan Smith is young. The Kobe
Dean who was hurt for the game is young. Quigytt
Mitchell and Cooper de Gene two big pieces in the secondary.

(30:08):
They're young. They have a kid who's the third round
pick who's going to be a player. His name is
Jalx Hunt. He had a nice game. He was a
he was a project from Abilene Christian. I mean, they're young,
and a lot of places on that defense, they're scary young.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
That's one of the interesting things because I keep hearing, well,
they're gonna be in salary cap hell in a couple
of years because of the way these contracts are structured.
And I'm like, okay, a couple of things. Number One,
who cares about a couple of years from now? When
you just won the Super Bowl? I just want to
loudly just scream to the world, shut up. You won
the Super Bowl. Nobody's worried about contracts in a couple

(30:55):
of years. The other part of it is part of
the reason this team was so dominant is because they've
drive did so well the last few years. I'm gonna
presume that they'll continue to do that because the GM
that's drafting is one of the best in the league.
And then also, by the way, he's really good at
figuring out the contract thing. So, like you know, it
was I literally laughed out loud the day after the

(31:16):
Super Bowl when I started seeing, well, salary cap hell
is about to hit the Eagles in two years and
then let's see how things go. And it's like, oh, okay, cool,
Like what are we worried about? We can't even enjoy
the Super Bowl without worrying about the salary cap in
two years when they have to resign people and blah
blah blah, Like that's just that's dumb assery. We don't
need in our lives. Just enjoy the Super Bowl. Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Don't get that. I mean, that's all part of navigating
the NFL.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
I mean, you know, I mean, all right, who knows
what's gonna happen in two years, right, Like you know,
well you have to replenish the roster in some way
or yeah, all right, they're gonna lose off of this team.
They'll probably lose Becton, who should get paid, Milton Williams,

(32:04):
who's defensive tackle should get paid. They'll re sign Zach Bond,
who's their other free agent. And that's really it, I mean,
you know, I mean that's kind of where you stand.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
And let's let's see what what guys.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Like Josh wet who's who's an end, who's he'll be
one of the biggest ends out there, and they'll lose him.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
I just a guy like McKay. I don't know. I'm
not going to presume anything until we see. You never know,
for guys that were labeled a bust in their careers
just all of a sudden, the in the trash heap
because of the way they're perceived from where they were drafted.
And there's this function of certain organizations and then you
turn around and you find an organization that believes in

(32:51):
you and you win a super Bowl, Like I just
we have to me it's presumption. I'm not gonna yet
presume that MacKaye is just out the door to get
a ton of money, depending on what they can do
for him, if they want to bring him back. You know.
Just there's certain guys that I look at and say, man, same,
It's just no different to me than Sam Donald. I know,
I'm sure he wants to be a starter somewhere for

(33:12):
a ton of money, yes, But I also don't think
Sam Donald's going to be you know, if he had
a comparable offer to stay someplace that you know got
the best of him, or to go to it just
a dumpster fire of an organization. I don't know necessarily that.
I'm as certain as everybody else that the players want
a lesser location, even if it's a little more money.
It's just I think it's so individualistic on the player

(33:34):
and where they want to be.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, that's that's that's a great point. Great point, all right,
I think quick till will come right back.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
I'm curious to see how you watched it, like what
your thoughts, because it was such a personal story for me, uh,
my town, my team, my childhood team, the whole thing. Uh,
you know, kids in the whole the whole nine family,
all about the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
So I'm really curious to see how you know, what
you thought of it.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
When you thought of the game, you know, I can
imagine it kind of probably sucked because you just want
a game, right, So I'm curious how you watched it.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
And then we're gonna start kind of going.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Through each of the teams and kind of where they stand,
almost like a kind of state of the Union for
each of these teams.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
We'll do that as well.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Where the Fellas right here as always every Saturday on
Fox Sports Radio, Fellas Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargano from the
ti raq dot Com Studios. So FITCHI, what'd you do,

(34:52):
like take me into your world?

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Well, okay, a couple of things here. Number one, I
you know, last week was my flu game, so I'll
be honest.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I was.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
I had to isolate the flu in pneumonia all week,
so you know it.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Oh my god, dude, I don't know how you did it,
and you were great, like nobody would know that you
were sick at all.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
It's funny because we finished the show and I actually
was like, man, I think I need to make an
appointment to go to like a walking clinic is up
in Connecticut. You have to make those appointments.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
So I made an.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Appointment for whatever, like one o'clock was the first I
could get in, and I slept from the time we
finished our show until I had to go to the clinic.
And I walk in and they make you take like
a flu test, you know, and the doctor comes in,
He's like, it took like two minutes for your flu
to come back, so for you to come back positive
with the flu. I had a fever of between one
hundred and one and one hundred and two for like
four almost five days.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
I was sick. So I will tell you it's weird
because the Super Bowl is such a communal watching experience
in some ways, and we talked going into it about like, okay, well,
what's the right way to watch it? And you know,
usually just group of people for me, that sort of thing,
all like minded fans. It was weird just sitting at
home alone and being like, I'm watching the super Bowl.

(36:09):
That being said, I think to me there was a
how do I say that. It sounds cheesy, but like
there was a beautiful just watching that pass rush and
the way it got home was so disruptive. I found
myself just kind of on the edge of my seat
enjoying the art of pass rush disruption, if that makes sense.

(36:32):
It just it was such an interesting game to watch
from that like will there be anything they can do
that will buy them anytime? And you just, man, it
felt so easy for Philly throughout that I think that
was the most stunning thing for me watching it, but
also kind of crazy because we spent you know, last week,

(36:53):
talked about the right things to watch and all that,
and I found myself watching and thinking, wow, I thought
for me personally, I thought the halftime show fell flat
no offense to Kendrick fans, I get it. I just
think that that deep social statements don't work on halftime shows,
Like if you have to do fifty two videos to
tell me about your deep symbolism, then it was too deep.

(37:14):
And I think, you know, for common fans just sitting
back watching, I just I thought the halftime show was
kind of meh. I thought the commercials were kind of pooring,
and then by the second half the game was out
of control. So I sat there watching the Super Bowl
thinking like, this is a weirdly anti climactic game to
watch because the game is kind of meh, the ads

(37:37):
are definitely meh. The halftime show didn't charge me up
with some great energy. It was kind of meh. So
it was an interestingly forgettable but enjoyable Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
If that makes sense, it makes perfect sense, And I
was curious if that's that's kind of how I would
imagine it for you. It's funny because we consume it
entirely different. So at halftime, you know, my cousin and
I and my friend and you know, we went outside
like cause we were we were.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Stunned, right, like stunned that it was at that point
twenty four nothing, and so we were outside just kind
of talking about it. All right, well, all right, they're
gonna get the ball in the first half and then
to begin the first the second half and you know,
what can they do and it's the game over, right,

(38:30):
Like we were having these conversations, So there was no
halftime show. I couldn't tell you one commercial because commercials
were like talking about the game, you know, like it
was okay, oh my god, you know, it's to our
eyes deceive us, like they're There was a point where

(38:54):
we were like, this is probably ball game, but nobody
wants to say it.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Right afterday too soon, but you know it's Paul game.
Oh god, that's so real.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Yeah, like nobody wanted to say it, but we all
knew it. We were like, oh my god, this game
could be over. And it was like, this game is over,
like you knew and plus you knew how it was
going right like you you saw them able to dominate
the one of scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Where the fellas right here. Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
You're listening Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, buddy.
Oh happy happy happy Fox. No football Saturday. We'll get
into some college hoops. It's a weird week FITSI because
for this no no football and again, dude, like this

(39:58):
is where the NBA. I know, I rail on it
every week, but it just disappoints me so much. Like
you know that there's a captive audience this weekend without football,
why wouldn't you program to that? Like why wouldn't you
schedule a Sunday like triple header, quadruple header of great games?

(40:25):
Now I realize you can't really tell who's gonna be good,
but you know you have an idea, like why wouldn't
you matter this Sunday be like like some epic Sunday
come out in a gate after the Super Bowl. Instead,
you have your All Star Game that nobody cares about
because it's just stupid.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Yeah, I think all Star games in general, through no
fault of their own, are antiquated, thinking that people are
never going to care about any anymore. It's just and
everybody will talk about how much All Star games mattered,
you know when we were kids sort of thing, But
you just got to remember that the entire process of
watching sports were so different when we were kids. Like,

(41:10):
if you want to go back to what all Star
games meant in the nineties. I think you also have
to acknowledge that in the nineties it was tough to
find some of these sports night in and night out,
Like you didn't have the opportunity to just buy NBA
League mass See every day like so, so by the
very nature of the way we now consume sports and

(41:30):
the ability to stream them absolutely anywhere, anytime, from any device,
all Star games just simply can't be as meaningful. I
think the NHL has done a nice job with this
international tournament, but like.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Like I was about to say, I freaking love the
Four Nations.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Yeah, that's the Oh, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
It's awesome.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
I watched first two games, and I know that this game,
the second game was a blowout with USA Finland, but
it was close up until the very period in the
USA erupted. And I can't wait for today USA Canada. Dude,
Oh my god, that's gonna be great.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
I think that's where you you just have to get
really creative in doing something that serves your audience in
a different way. So I'm not sure that an All
Star we can can ever do that. To your point,
and we know what brands resonate like this is the annual,
as somebody that does love college basketball, the annual sort
of moment for me where I sit here and say, God,

(42:32):
if I was the czar of college basketball, I would
have you know, Duke North Carolina at the Sunday after
the Super Bowl at one pm on CBS. I get
just we're used to watching football at one pm on
CBS and Fox, right, So if I'm CBS and Fox
that both have rights to college basketball at one pm
four pm on Sunday the weekend after the Super Bowl,

(42:54):
I would program the biggest matchups I possibly can. Like,
Fox has Big Ten Basketball, so give me all, give
me whatever you think the best game in the Big
Ten is going to be. Now, we get number one
versus Number two tonight in college basketball, so we are
getting some of that. But I just think that there's
a level of I would be putting programmable. You know,

(43:14):
you're used to watching things. I'm going to give you
things to watch at those same times on those same
networks as a way to just remind you, Hey, my
sport's now going on. In the NBA, doing an All
Star weekend doesn't do any of.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
That to me, No, it does nothing. It just you
gotta highlight the best of your of your league. That's
what you gotta do.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
I mean, you know, when you know you have an
audience to capture, you gotta go after it. You know,
there is still this mindset that we're the NBA, or
we're Major League Baseball, or we're in the NHL or
where this where that you guys still got to realize
that the number one dog is football, it's the NFL.

(44:00):
So all right, knowing that, how do I capture sports?

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Like obviously, if you just got a piece of the
audience that is used to watching sports on Sunday, you're
doing well.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
Yeah, that's such a good When we talk about sort
of what the expectations are for some of these sports,
I think just reminding everybody that you're not even in
the same stratosphere and don't need to be. You know,
when people talk about spring football, this is you. And
I have said this in the past, but I'll remind
everybody again the objective of spring football the UFL as

(44:36):
it now is is not to turn around and compete
with the NFL. That's impossible. The objective of spring football
is to simply say, okay, is this getting better ratings
than what other random sport I would have put on
the weekend in the middle of spring. So is this
getting bigger ratings than a random college basketball we get
or comparable ratings to the random college basketball And that's why,

(44:57):
you know, even when I covered the XFL when it
first came in for ESPN at the time, I used
to tell people all the time, like the XFL is
wildly successful because it's being judged against by by people
at ESPN at the time, it was being judged against
essentially whatever the modern wide world of sports thing is, right,
And that's a much easier number to hit. Like you're

(45:19):
not trying to hit twenty million. You hit a few
million people watching it. That's better than you know, a
random Van Dey versus Belmont basketball game would it done?
And so I just think we have to have a
little bit of that perspective on what's trying to be
accomplished in these in these windows after the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah, and just the idea of understanding that you have
an audience to grab. I think that's the that's the
big thing, Like, you know, first you have to you
have to comprehend that that's that you have something there,
you know what I mean, like, come on, man, you

(45:56):
could do something, you could capture something, you do it right.
And so I look at it now and I'm going,
I can't believe this weekend because it gets up now.
I know it's Valentine's Day weekend and everything else and
you're going out. But you know, like people still watch sports,
Like Sunday afternoon is a is a perfect day for that.

(46:18):
And you look at the Sunday and you go, what's
on Sunday tomorrow? Like, really think about it. What's on tomorrow?
You got Creighton Saint John's on FS one, Michigan Ohio State,
and and that's that's really it? Is that not so

(46:41):
like that's your sports on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Yeah, that's not good enough.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
And the like and the and then the NBA All
Star Game at night that nobody wants to watch.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
I'm looking.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
I mean, and there's DASCAR, right, it's a big deal
for the Daytona five hundred. So you're you're, you're and
then you have have golf. But I'm talking, I was
talking predominantly you know, team sports.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
You got yet that that's and again I will say
to college basketball's like it's so much tougher to be
able to just flex something in college basketball. So I
get that that's you know, easier said than done. Like
college basketball does have number one versus Number two tonight

(47:29):
in the ear this afternoon, and they just both happen
to be Like the Iron Bowl is now a basketball matchup,
and that's.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Right, you just luck out because that's conference.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Yeah, you just got they got lucky Alabama Auburn is
you know, it's it's the premiere college basketball game of
the weekend, and they got lucky that it happens to
be the weekend after the Super Bowl. But even at that,
you know, it's just that that's the one thing that
they sort of have sitting here that we're all gravitating
to as the big the big map. But you're right,

(48:00):
there just isn't another thing that we're sitting here and saying.
And to me, that's where we also have to remember
that sometimes the best matchup is not actually the matchup
that's going to gravitate the most places. Like we know
that Duke North Carolina will always get the best ratings
even if one of those teams sucks, right, Like, So
those are the moments that again, if I was putting

(48:22):
the schedule together. You know, any opportunity to have Duke
UNC Kentucky, Kansas, give me all my blue bloods like that.
We know are people gravitate towards watching them and you know,
stack them together on this weekend. You know, we always
get the challenges early in the college basketball season, you know,
the Big ten sec challenge or whichever one they're doing

(48:43):
in Hawaii. I wish they were doing stuff like that
this weekend. That was just dude.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
You know what's so funny you said that because I
think these leagues kind it sucks backwards, like everything that's
exactly right. Why are you wasting really fun stuff in
the beginning of the season that gets lost with football.

(49:11):
It's lost, like you like, you got the NFL and
college football going on, all right, that's it, that's all.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
That's it, man, Like, what are you doing? Nobody's watching you.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
There's great games early on, and by the way, teams
find themselves, and especially college basketball with the portal and
everything else, the teams don't come together until you know,
after January, when you finally start to learn how to
play with one another, you kind of settle in the rolls.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Now, how much more interesting would it.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Be if you had the ACC Big Ten Challenge this
week and played a bunch of games on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Remember a few years ago when they had the game
on the aircraft or the what the carrier? I can't
even know what they're called.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah, but like the aircraft carrier.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
Give me that, like give me like give me weird basketball,
you know in strange places that are just oh my god,
that seems like something I have to watch, Like I'd
be all in. I mean, I think you just gotta
have to be a little bit of a salesman. You
have to have a little bit of a Wringling Brothers
Barnum and Bailey sort of approach to how am I
going to get people to come to my circus tent?

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And you know that that's the hard part of it
is like.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Like like why can't you do the ACC Big Ten Challenge?
You know from one one place?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Right?

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Like, so maybe you have it going on on a Sunday, right,
so maybe play four games on Sunday. Two are at
Cameron and two are at you know, you know ann Arbor, right,
pick your wherever and then you you make it special too, right,

(51:01):
like you know, you bring a fab five out like
you do all kind of dude, do whatever you can,
like just have fun with it. And you know, because
you're doing it for TV, it make it make it special.
Like if you're the NBA, like you know that this
weekend's here, right, so instead of putting your All Star

(51:22):
game here, put your All Star Game somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
You know you could do it.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
I don't, I don't. I mean the following weekend, whatever
you want to do. But what like can you imagine
if you had any kind of force that you go,
all right, I'm going to work backwards on the schedule.
I want to make sure that this weekend is a
big deal. And this weekend I'm gonna have start with

(51:49):
Celtics Lakers. Now, you had no idea that Luca gets
traded there, but you're gonna start with Celtics Lakers because
it's Celtics Lakers, right, And then you.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Get lucky that Luca gets moved to LA and people
would love to watch that matchup.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
I mean, you could approach the Sunday after Super Bowl
the very same way that they have approached Christmas Day
for years. We're gonna we're gonna make this the biggest brands.
We're gonna blow this thing up. We're gonna make it
a huge day for the NBA. We're gonna turn it
into a spectacle, like the NBA could. I mean, if
your belief is that they're doing all of these other

(52:30):
things to try and get people to pay attention from
the stupid you know, court painting and all you know,
from the Cup series and all of these things, like
they are trying to create initiatives. So the fact is
they realize that they need to bring more attention to
the regular season. I guess my thing is, if you're
gonna try and create initiatives, why not try and create
it over this weekend. This just feels like the right

(52:51):
weekend to do that, you know.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
And I mean they they spent so much noise and
Adam Silver spent so much ref trying to defend his
cup that nobody cares about. Well, if you put the
cup on now, people might watch it and maybe they'll

(53:13):
act someday care about it. I still think it's ridiculous
because you're playing for the same like it's the same
teams that are playing like it doesn't mean anything. Oh
we got the cup?

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Who cares? Nobody cares?

Speaker 3 (53:28):
It's not special enough, But maybe there's something else you
can do instead of the Cup. What if you had
this would actually be fun. What if you had these
teams play and you can easily do it this weekend
and play March Madness style.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
NBA.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
You know, do the do a March Madness bracket with
NBA teams and the first two games games or month.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
It's Saturday and Sunday of this weekend, so you have.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Wall to wall games tip off from noon until ten
pm Eastern.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
On Saturday and Sunday. People, I'd watch that. Oh that's cool. Back,
I got games tipping off every that's fun.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Yeah, yeah, I know. That's a way to create a spectacle. Yeah,
you're right, And you know, I just keep thinking about
We've talked so often about the fact that at the
beginning of the w the beginning of the NBA season
is just lost, and the beginning of college past, I mean,
most of college basketball is lost. And it sort of

(54:44):
didn't hit me until a couple of days ago as
we got through the Super Bowl, and it's like, man,
Selection Sunday is literally a month away, and so we
have one quality month of college basketball to just capture
the imagination of everybody you got, You got this one
month to suddenly remind everybody why they love the sport

(55:06):
and who's good and who's not good and transfer portal
and nil make it so tough to keep up with
rosters for so many casuals. Anyway, it's its own full
time job. Like it's it's just man the opportunity here.
I love your idea of blasting like twenty four to seven.
Like you know, we college basketball always starts with the

(55:28):
midnight madness sort of stuff. I'd be doing all of
that stick right now, anything right now to get people
to realize, you know, hey, this this Big ten team
is actually pretty good, and this this ACC team is
actually bad and things like you've got to you've got
to really acknowledge. And I say that I use this
phrase a lot in sports, but like I think we

(55:50):
have to acknowledge the while you were footballing part of society,
which is you know, a debate I've had with guys
like Jay Billis for years of Man, I understand how
much you love college basketball, but ain't nobody watching it
until we get through. So now you've got to catch
everybody up, and you've got to catch fire. You gotta
catch momentum, you got to get people to truly give
a damn about it in a matter of days and

(56:13):
weeks that set up your entire sport for the most
important time that they have. I think you have to
handle it a lot more, with a lot more understanding
of exactly where you are in the spectrum and exactly
what it's going to take to get people to care.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Yeah, yes, fancy, yes, I mean it's ridiculous, by the way,
at the very least, while it saves some games for tomorrow,
like if you're if you're of these conferences and your
scheduled games and really it's TV wow, Like tomorrow should

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be wall to wall college basketball, Like how stupid.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Is is the NCAA in the sense of.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
You got the NHL not even playing tomorrow because of
the nation's torn it and the NBA All Star gave
it nobody cares about Like you have a cat, Like
if there's ever a day to do twel to wool
hoops college basketball, it's today and tomorrow, and I would
I would do it, you know, like you said the

(57:16):
twenty four hours, I'd have to twenty four hours of
the forty eight hours of hoops, right, you start you know,
Saturday morning at you know, ten eastern, right, wake up, breakfast,
breakfast basketball. You know, like there's a million things you
can do, bacon in basketball, right, like you know, and

(57:38):
you have all day Saturday.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
You have a million games.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
You could stagger play them all throughout weird times, all night,
all night too.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
There's forty eight hours of hoop. I mean that that
moves and the eels.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
I know.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
You go, oh you suffer from football.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
With then you doing a whole ad campaign, a whole
social media campaign. Football withdrawal got you jump into forty
eight hours of hoops. Prepare for March Madness, Prepare for
your bracket now.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
I mean honestly, Like I just mentioned the XFL, now
the UFL. I saw an ad that they ran during
the Super Bowl and they're like spring football starts in
only six weeks. And I just laughed out loud by myself.
I laughed out loud in the house, and I thought, well,
that's stupid. Like your opportunity to start spring football was
this weekend. Yeah, it's that's the other thing. Have it

(58:30):
ready to go? You have it ready to go?

Speaker 2 (58:33):
You guys, like, what's wrong? You do you not understand?

Speaker 3 (58:36):
You in nature, Like how hard is it to figure out?
But in six weeks you're done. You lost them through
past it. I know in six weeks I'll be past it,
all right, I'll be past my addiction going. All right, Well,
I guess I'm on the baseball and basketball and hockey,

(59:00):
and you know I've settled in the major and I
one I have to tell you, I have to be
honest with you. I mean, I'm a sports not right,
So I'll watch you know, you give me like a
like a major golf tournament. I'll watch it on a

(59:20):
Sunday and enjoy it and enjoy it's you know, it's
how great the players are. I'm not the biggest NASCAR guy.
I mean, you know, I mean Daytona five hundred is
a big deal. I'd love team sports, right I do.
I love basketball, I love hockey, I love baseball, and

(59:41):
you know, I mean football we talk about.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
All the time.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Those leagues are, you know, even soccer, right, Like I
look at the world like, I mean the other day
we're watching Champions League. It was incredible, right, Like I
would program to America in sports fans there too.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
There.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
I just don't understand how you see how dominant football
is and you gotta be able to draw upon it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
All.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
That requires self awareness, That's all I'll say. Just requires
self awareness.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
So you got to tell me on the other side
what you and Jay debate, because I love Jay Bellis too.
I think it's fantastic, But I'm curious to see what
he says about that. Where the fellas Jason Fitz Anthony
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FITZI how bad and we'll get to which I want
to do, stated the team addressed to. We'll go through

(01:01:29):
each of the teams in their state. But how badly
are you going to have to withdrawal? Because dude, I'm
already in my team. You know, I was lucky, right
My team won the Super Bowl was fantastic. We had
a great parade yesterday. It was special and unified the city.
It's a beautiful thing. But I look around, I go,

(01:01:51):
oh my god, I'm going to miss it right, can't
wait until combine the draft. But as fun, as much
fun as they are, still not the games.

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
I don't know. I think the draft is such a
season of hope that yeah, it's not games, but you
don't have to deal with the heartbreak that comes with games.
I genuinely believe that the draft has become truly the
savor of, you know, sort of the offseason and the
way it feels, because my god, I mean, I'm consuming

(01:02:25):
constant mock draft to stuff right now. I think most
fans are everybody's in the how do we catch a mode? Now,
Even Chiefs fans are sitting there reading mock drafts trying
to figure out which offensive lineman they're going to draft. Like,
I think that there is some element of the end
of April becomes the thing that we can all look
forward to. So we distract ourselves that it doesn't really

(01:02:47):
set in that football has gone gone to me until
the beginning of May every year because the draft stuff
begins to be such a big part of the conversation,
and all of your favorite shows and podcasts are still
running of football content, and you still feel like you're
connected to your favorite team because you understand what they're
trying to accomplish in all of these dumb things. So

(01:03:07):
I think the draft is really the band aid on it.
But I do agree, by the way, like not for nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Well, you know it's nuts. I like the draft too,
I do. I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
I love it, but like to me, it's a completely
different category of entertainment in the sense that we spend
so much time watching games. And I know you're like
me right, like hey, during college and NFL, I mean
I'm consuming it. I mean that's my Thursday night, watch

(01:03:41):
the Thursday night game all the time, all day Saturday,
all day Sunday, Sunday night Monday, and then if there's
any other specials, like you're watching every game. You know,
that's just what it is. And when you're when those
games go, well, you know it's like you have all

(01:04:03):
it's like you're rediscovering time because you're in such a routine.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
You're definitely right that you find like I find myself
having more you know, just time like that that's real
one hundred percent. But so much of like I think
about routine and so much of what I consume and
if i'm if you know, when I wake up in
the morning and I turn on the TV, the first
thing that get up is talking about is still football, right, Like,

(01:04:31):
so like we haven't reached that spot yet where football
conversation has died off. So I think that's part of
what you know, whether it's podcasts or TV shows, there's
just still so much out there that is consumed with
that energy that it feels like it's still it's still
a massive are You're right? Like it's different than watching
the game.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
I gotta tell you, Like I don't consume as much
ancillary content as I do watching games like I actually
enjoy I love the games themselves, right, I analyze the
game where Rotchet gave coaches tape.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
You know, that's part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Obviously, it's our job, so we can devote a lot
of that time that what people other people can right, sure,
So it's a gift, but.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Like I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
The biggest I gotta watch during the day or every
other show, especially when we do that stuff every day.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
It's a it's a fine line for me. I think
sometimes there's like a thought process, Okay, what are people
talking about and what are people hot on? Like that's
part of why I listen to it. What part of
it is too, Like I just like when I'm working out,
I enjoy sports talk radio when I'm working out, so
you know, I feel like I'm consuming that every day
and I'm still now like more than ever. You know,

(01:05:54):
the process is started of going back and trying to
rewatch whoever I can to get ready for draft content.
So I'm still you know, sitting here on YouTube trying
to find clips and highlights. So I think that that's
a little part of why the band aid is still there.
But I also think that just because of what when
when your team stinks as much as my team has

(01:06:14):
stunk for most of my life, you just the games
themselves are more more heartbreak and let down, like the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
That's interesting. That's a great point, man, that's all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Like people that play Madden a lot are people that
have a football team that they love that sucks because
the only way you're ever going to see and win
is if you're playing the video game version. You know,
It's like that's there's this reality to what the draft is.
And I've said before that I think it's you know,
I think it's the most fun event of the sports calendar,
and you know that's people just go nuts for it.

(01:06:47):
But it's also because like for that weekend, you think
your team got drastically better more often than not, you
like you can walk yourself into it and you don't
have to sit there and be reminded yet that you're
probably wrong in that your team probably sucks. So you know,
like there's suspended disbelief, like you know, it's just it's

(01:07:08):
it's been a while, brother, since you you had one
of those seasons where it's like, man, fourteen weeks out
of this year, I'm gonna hate them myself that I
watched this thing. That's what my most of my years
are like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
So you know, it's just it's a great point, dude.
You're right. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right about that.
You you must.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
Because as much as you like watching other teams, what
heightens your interests in the in the other teams.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Is when your team's good, yeah, because it just it
just it just makes everything more acute right your senses.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
It's amazing how different Sundays feel when your team is
actually good. And I don't mean team is winning. I
say this to you all the time. I think there's
a difference between a team that wins in a team
that is good. And one of the rarest things in
my life is waking up every week and thinking, you

(01:08:08):
know what, my favorite team is really good. Like the
Raiders have had two playoffs seasons since two thousand and two,
and in both of those playoff seasons, a lot of
lucky outcomes, a lot of weird games where you're like, man,
I can't believe we won that. That was fun. But
you didn't wake up on Sunday saying, hey, we are clearly.
Like I haven't truly had more than maybe four years

(01:08:29):
in my adult life that I remember waking up and
thinking my favorite team is better than your team today.
And that is such a rush, Like that is such
an incredible feeling when you wake up and you're like,
now we're gonna win today. Like that's as opposed to
waking up and saying, well, the Raiders are on and
that's what, you know, Like, that's the nicest thing I

(01:08:50):
can say for the majority of my adult life. As
you wake up and I know that I'm gonna have
the feels, I know it's gonna give me all my emotion,
i know I'm gonna care too much, and I'm more
likely than not gonna see my favorite team lose. So
that's just, you know, that's the part of the defeated
mentality that comes with, you know, year and in year out,
just watching your team suck and you know, just getting
to the point where you can actually watch competent football

(01:09:13):
more often. They're like, if your team consistently wins more
games than they lose, then you are one of the
lucky ones in the NFL. And I just have to
say that loud, because there are plenty of like, I know,
Browns fans gotta be feeling this, Titans fans feeling this,
Giants fans feeling this, Raiders fans feeling this. Like you
can go up and down the list, and I said
this repeatedly this year. There were about a dozen teams

(01:09:35):
that were terrible this year. Not just bad, they were terrible,
but we forget that now because the draft is here,
so everybody starts to feel this positivity, like, no, we're
just one quarterback away. Suddenly we're gonna be Washington. We're
gonna be just like Houston was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
We're gonna turn it around one year.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
That all comes from you know what starts now because
now you know nobody can prove you wrong. All you
could do is sit there and live in your genie.
You know, rub the genie Lamb. You're gonna get to
all your wishes, they're all gonna come true. Your offseason
is gonna be better than everybody else's. Your team's gonna
turn it around. So I still think that there's this
planet hope that lasts until May.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
That's really interesting way to look at it, Really an
interesting way that the halo of hope. And it's all
about the draft. You know, it's funny we and I
love the draft too, so like I get it, like
the drafts, I love it. But you know better anybody
that you know, you've got to be extremely lucky for

(01:10:39):
your draft to bear immediate fruit. Yeah, yeah, let alone
bear fruit at all, because a lot of them just
you know, fall to the ground. And are unedible right
to continue to algy.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
I mean that that's the whole like constant. Look, if
your team's favorite GM or your favorite teams GM, I
should say, lands five starters in an offseason, it's a
hall of fame offseason. If they land five quality, oh
my god, new starters, that's a hall of fame. That's
Howie Roseman. You are sitting here saying you did what

(01:11:18):
between the draft and free agency combined? If you land
five high level starters, you are sitting there and you
are like, that is that's an off season you should
tell your grandkids about. Like, that's the line. And I
remind people of that because if you look in the
mirror honestly and you realize that your favorite team needs
more than let's say, like four guys to plug in,

(01:11:42):
your favorite team is not going to take a meteorically
ninety nine percent of the time. And that's the message
to suck that nobody really wants to hear. But the
reality of it is, most teams are gonna get the
draft wrong. Most teams are gonna spend a bunch of
money the opening day of free agency, and that money's
gonna be wasted because guys are let go for a reason,
like most guys don't hit the open market for you

(01:12:03):
know what I mean. So everybody's gonna sit here and say, well,
all we need is a couple of offensive linemen and
a couple of guys on the defensive side of the ball. Well, okay, yeah,
they ain't getting that in one offseason. Like you're just
you're not. But nobody wants that logic right now. Everybody
just wants to feel good. So you know, as a
Raiders fan, I think my team probably needs thirteen fourteen

(01:12:24):
new starters to be a really competitive team. That's three
off I got three years before my team's gonna be
any good if they have three home run off seasons.
And like, nobody wants to hear that message, but I
think that's way more it's reality.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Well you know, wait a week, like you mentioned Howie and.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
They got five right on offitch, you got Barkley and
mckaype acton right so we got you got your big
right guard to solidify your run game, and your all
world running.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Back, who, by the way, could have signed anywhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
And then you got Zach Bond, who they originally saw
people thought that they were signing him to be an
edge guy. He becomes a middle linebacker, becomes a who
doesn't leave the field, and he's out of the plane,
out of his mind. And then you got two corners,
an outside corner and a nickel corner and Mitchell and

(01:13:23):
de Gene. I mean, that's five starters, impactful starters.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
And there are people around the league that are saying
it's one of the best off seasons ever, Like that's
just to get five new starters is a home run
Hall of Fame offseason. So now ask yourself, how many teams,
how many starters does your favorite team actually need? And
if the answer is anywhere near that, you're screwed.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Radio Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Fellas from the tire rack dot Com studios. So my
man Nicky chimes in and says, the NFL Draft isn't football, really,
but it's like the staging of a battle, and the

(01:14:22):
battle is actually the NFL season.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
I think that's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
That's deep.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
I like that a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Yeah, I just think there's something too the fact that
the season, I hope. Like the reason I think that
the draft is so huge is that for if you
don't get it right, then you lose your mind because
it feels like the one thing you have to get right.
But also nobody can really prove it one way or
the other, so you don't have to. You know, you know,

(01:14:53):
two weeks into the season, if your team sucks, like, okay,
you're getting slapped in the face with it. At the
end of the if somebody turns around and says, you
guys had the worst draft, your answer to that as well.
They said the same thing about the Lions. And it
turns out that that Jamia Gibbs class was pretty dark good, right, Like,
nobody can talk you off, like you you can believe
whatever you want for the draft. You can like the

(01:15:15):
fact that we make winners and losers out of the
draft when there won't actually be a product on the
field from it for months afterwards, Like we don't we
don't know who the winners or losers will be for
years out of the NFL Draft. But but people feel
like by Monday afternoon they know exactly what, like we're
going to the playoffs. Now look at this, like and
it's just man, nobody can even if he tells you

(01:15:37):
that you're an idiot, you don't have to you don't
have to listen to it. You don't have to buy it.
You can continue to pay no attention to the man
behind the curtains. So like there's suspended disbelief to whatever
you want to come out of the draft. So I
just that's I think one of the biggest differences is,
like it's a great party because every one of the
thirty two fan bases is sitting there saying, oh, no, no, no,

(01:15:59):
we just took the name extent, Like Eagles fans are
going to be convinced that how he's nailed it again
and that they're going back to back. Chiefs fans are
going to be convinced that they've figured out how to
get back to the mountaintop, and everybody else is going
to be convinced that they've figured out how to catch
those two teams. Like it's the inevitability that happens at
the end of April. It's it's it's cool to me.

(01:16:20):
I love the fact that there's just that much hope
and positivity around something that is factually wrong all the time. Like,
you are so right that most teams are going to
blow the draft, and most of the time it's a waste,
it's a waste of time, it's a waste of your eyeballs,
it's a waste of your concentration. But still we're all

(01:16:41):
going to feel something about it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Well, and you know it's it's in general right, Like
it goes back to just the sheer numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
That who's going to make it and who's not going
to make it?

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Right, there's only twenty percentage of kids that play college
football are going to make it on and that plays
out in the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
You take all these kids and in your mind, as
a consumer of the draft, you're going, oh, well, you know,
my seventh round pick, my fifth round pick, he's gonna
I love that kid.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
I like what he can do.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
I mean, as much as you know, you and I've
both probably fell prey to this, I've done it. I'm like,
oh my, I love this kid's motor man. Oh, this
kid's tall, he's six eight receiver. He's gonna be you
know what, He's a secret weapon. And every once in
a while you get Jordan Malatta who was a rugby

(01:17:39):
star in Australia and he becomes an All World left tackle.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
Well, I think the answer after every round gets more
and more. Mike could like, is that kid gonna work out?
Mike could like we don't know, you know, and like
where you're selected, you start talking about guys that are fifth, sixth,
seventh round picks. I mean, it's just rolling the dice.
He were just literally there's scratch off lottery tickets, no
idea if any of them are going to be good,

(01:18:05):
but we will obsess over every ounce of it, and
then fans will scream if a guy gets cut, that's
a fitth round draft pick. And it's like, man, we
treat these draft picks like they are just known commodities
in gold, when realistically most of them aren't even going
to be in the NFL in three years. So it's
it's it's the weirdest part of what we do, what
we had to analyze this stuff, it is, it is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
It's the truth. I mean, I remember the Eagles. I
was perplexed that the Eagles took Jalen Hurts when they
had Carson Wentz as the as the franchise quarterback, Like
why are you taking Jalen Hurts with a second round pick?
Like I'm like, it makes those sense, not when you

(01:18:50):
have Wentz and you have all these haul the holes
to fill. But look what happened. It turned out to
be saved, to save the franchise because wetz Goes blows
himself up and Hurts becomes an MVP.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
It's amazing story.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Where the Fellas Jason Fitz Anthony Gargana right here, team
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Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
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rack dot com the way tire buying should be. Forgive
me for still, you know, basking in the my Town's Championship.
It was the parade yesterday, so it was still very
fresh gridlock in Philadelphia and it was over.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
I mean we were close to too many people and
it was.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Just lined wall to wall, bigger than it was in
twenty eighteen, and a lot of love. It was a
real beautiful, beautiful day. I mean, you're always gonna when
you have upwards to two million people, you're going to
have a couple of kooks and a couple of people
who do dumb things. But by large, it was uh

(01:20:21):
it was it went off pretty smashingly. Uh, there're a
lot of love. It was a it was a beautiful
day in the city of Philadelphia celebrating the Eagles.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
So many interesting storylines and plot lines when you have
a championship, right, especially in the NFL, a Super Bowl,
and it doesn't get more interesting than the coach and
the quarterback. And I want to ask it, and then
I want to start going and team by team and

(01:20:54):
we're gonna get We're gonna do our state of each
team entering the off season. But coach, quarterback Nick Sirianni
Jalen Hurts, the MVP of the Super Bowl. Still their
journey really interesting. One guy was about to be fired,
right like people talked about his job on the line,

(01:21:16):
FITZI and then the other guy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
I still had someone say to me.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
Yesterday, this is yesterday at the parade, Well, how many
other quarterbacks could have won with that line and running
back and receivers.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
And I'm like, who cares? Like the kids are winning back,
Like who cares?

Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
Why? Why minimize greatness? That's the thing, Like why do
we feel the need to qualify? Why things aren't that
good and this is just like an epidemic in society
in general. It doesn't matter what anybody does. You could
be the best in the world at anything. You could
be the best musician in the world, and somebody is

(01:21:56):
going to immediately be like, oh, yeah, I don't know,
this is kind of overrate. You could be the best
pilot in the history of the world and people will
be like, I don't know. Like we as a society
we just constantly want to find reason to tear down
anyone that accomplishes anything as not being that great. To me, Like,
if you've got a quarterback that's just turned around and

(01:22:19):
played the game that Jalen Hurts played, there is no
longer a time and place for a conversation about, you know,
how good is he? Really? Like, doesn't matter the guy
just won the Super.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
Bowl, like the guys like that's exactly the point, Vincy, Like,
now you don't need to go is he a top
ten quarterback?

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
Is he?

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
This is he elite? What's elite? What's that?

Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
Joe Burrow? Is he Burrow?

Speaker 5 (01:22:45):
Is he?

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Ma Homes is he? You know? Justin Herbert?

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
What is he?

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Lamar? I mean, it's it's just, you know, ridiculous, Like
he's a winner, he shows, he wins. What more you want?

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
He's got a Super Bowl championship. So the only thing
as fans that I think we should be constantly worried
about is and worried the wrong world, but constantly thinking
about is can this team, this player, this coach, can
they win a championship? And I say all the time
that what you're really hoping for is proximity. Are you
in range? Because if you have proximity, you know, look,

(01:23:23):
you can't necessarily do anything about choking a lead away
with thirteen seconds left, But you can ask yourself, if
you're putting yourself in this situation whereas a franchise, you're
constantly in range of winning a championship, that's what your
hope is to get to. And I mean, there's a
very clear answer at this point to Ken Sirianni and
Hurts get you in proximity to Super Bowls? There was

(01:23:44):
already an answer to that, and the answer has only
been reinforced. It's just there's literally nothing else in the
world that we do that we immediately want to tear
somebody down when they accomplish something like we do with sports,
and this happens in every league. It's it's alarming to me,

(01:24:04):
you know, this conversation of you know, no matter what
Jochicz does, it'll be well, where is he on the
Mount Rushmore? I don't care who cares where any of
these guys are in the Mount Rushmore? Like, guess what's
not going to change your tuesday? How somebody ranks Jalen Hurts.
Guess what does change your tuesday? Go into a parade
to watch a super Bowl champion because Jalen Hurts won one,

(01:24:25):
You know what I mean? Like I just the constant
need to compare everybody to everything is just such bs
to me that I don't it's irrelevant. Where Jalen Hurts
ranks in the lexicon of great quarterbacks in the NFL
is irrelevant. He's a super Bowl champion. That's all that's relevant.
Like the is he better or worse than Joe Burrow?

(01:24:47):
Who cares? Because guess what, he just won a super Bowl?
Like that, that's all that matters at this point. You
can win a super Bowl with Jalen Hurts. The rest
of the conversation is irrelevant.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
Well, and I think his journey is story is fascinating
because all this ridiculous talk.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Goes around him is going on around him, and.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
He consistently has said, and you know, he it's like
my man Nick said, he deserves his flowers. He's consistently said, Look,
I just all I care about is winning, Like this
is just about winning. And there's no better winner, right
like you know, and he's showing it time and time

(01:25:29):
out with a slow of different offensive coordinators.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
He's going to do it again.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
He just wins. I think he's magic Johnson. He loves Jordan,
but I think his game is magic Johnson, because Hey,
if you need me to score you know, twenty five,
I can do that, get the ball down the field.
Or if you need me to score you know, fifteen

(01:25:57):
and get twelve assists, I can do that. Use my
legs right, spit the ball out where it needs to
go through some Reid option like all that stuff. That
to me, he plays quarterback like a point guard.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
I like that analogy a lot I do. And you know,
I think there's a valuable lesson. We can look at
our two champions in football this year, and certainly midway
through the season, plenty of people thought Ryan Day was
going to be on the hot seat. Plenty of people
thought Sirianni was going to be on the hot seat.
It's amazing. How more than ever, we have to remember

(01:26:37):
that you will not be remembered or judged by how
you played in the middle of a season. You will
be remembered and judged for how you play at the
end of the season. That you know, it's one of
the impossibilities of the way that we cover sports that
we have to rest to judgment on absolutely everything. And
my god, like we've got living breathing proof from both

(01:26:57):
football champions this year that some times you just got
to stay the course with the people that you know
are going to be able to get you there, and
relax and let them run their entire process. And you
know what we see for both Ohio State and now
for Philadelphia that all the yelling and screaming two months
ago seems pretty dumb by a lot of people. And

(01:27:19):
I don't necessarily think the smartest people and the people
that we should be listening to the most are the
people that are yelling and screaming. I just you mentioned
you don't listen to or consume a lot of this
ancillary stuff. And I do and I just would implore
somebody if you turn on a TV show in the
middle of the season and the first thing you think
is this is a stupid topic, then you're probably watching

(01:27:42):
stupid TV. And we just got to stop, like we
there's the conversation of trying to marginalize the greatness of
anything that Philadelphia has accomplished. To me is just it's
a byproduct of asinine TV that's worried more about whether
somebody will longs on to Mount Rushmore or a top
ten list, and that's just such a failed way of

(01:28:04):
thinking of every ounce of the logic. It's it does
not matter if Jalen Hurts is a top five quarterback
in the NFL or if he isn't a top five
quarterback in the NFL. And if somebody wants to have
the debate demand better like, it's just who cares? Who
cares if we're making a power ranking of quarterbacks right
now when you've got a super bowling.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
It's just that that to me, here's the problem, though,
Let's let's be realistic here, right, because this is interesting
that you said that, because I agree with you inherently, right,
But people don't people want that People want. The reason
why the hot take became wildly successful is because people

(01:28:49):
like it. They like to argue this stuff, right, Like
they like the They like the idea that someone says
X y Z and then you either a agree with
her or shoot.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
It down.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
Like that's people like. They don't they don't like. I mean,
the masses, the masses don't like. I don't think what
you and I like or I love that. I mean
I love the chess match, right, I love that like
like I love I spent a lot of time with Baldy, right,
and we look a lot of film and I talked

(01:29:23):
to Baldy a lot, and I love that stuff. But
Baldi does it in an entertaining way. Too much of
that stuff makes people's eye watch like they don't really,
I don't think they care about it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
I think you're right there has to be some line
where And you're also right that people like easy debates, right,
like you know, I I go back to my buddy
Michael at Junior years ago, who was about to He
was on radio at the time and didn't know what's
what they were going to do next segment wise, and

(01:29:58):
so he jokingly said into the Micael rom versus MJ
who's actually the goat, And he said it as a joke,
and the rest of the day that he was on radio,
his phone lines were full. And you're a thousand percent right,
you know, you do that for people, and people will
gravitate towards it. But man, I also think that it
becomes an epidemic in thinking if everything has to be

(01:30:21):
about a list and about a ranking, when it's so
subjective and arbitrary, like again, who are the top ten
quarterbacks in the NFL? Okay, Well, that's a very arbitrary.
You know, ten different people are going to come up
with ten different lists. I think you know, at some point,
even if the world likes, you know, cheap debate, I

(01:30:43):
get that, at some point you still have to at
least hold everybody to a very simple standard of like, hey,
what are we talking about? Why are we talking about it?
And if you're an Eagles fan at a parade saying, well,
you know, Jalen Hurts over rated, a lot of quarterbacks
could have won a Super Bowl behind that line like that,
that to me is just such a you're you're searching

(01:31:06):
for a reason to tear down somebody's accomplishment and you know,
it's it's the Agel joke. As I sit here surrounded
with you know, a bunch of platinum and gold records
on my wall, it makes me laugh that we sit
here as a society we have learned to trash every
one hit Wonder that's ever. Oh man, what a joke,

(01:31:27):
that one hit wonder. And it's like, you know what's
you know what, what's worse than me to one hit wonder?
Never having a hit? Like we treat all of society
like one hit Wonder is something to be embarrassed about, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
We Wow, that's a great point, man, that's a great point.

Speaker 4 (01:31:42):
I don't know why we have to sit here immediately
after a player wins the super Bowl and then try
and figure out where that puts their legacy or their
ability to win another one, or is he really better
than this guy? Or is he worse than this guy?
And it's like, I don't know, man, shouldn't there be
at least some grace period of appreciation for like where

(01:32:04):
Jalen Hurts ranks in the you know right now, in
the power ranking of NFL quarterbacks. I don't know, he's
he's among the better like that, And I know that's
not great radio. People want like a definitive answer. It's like, well,
don't be don't be wishy washy on it. It's like, Okay,
who's the best is a very subjective thing. Who's a

(01:32:24):
super Bowl champion isn't Like that's not subjective, Like you
won a super Bowl with him, So build him up,
don't tear him down.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
Yeah, I mean because ultimately people don't want rational Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
No, people don't want Mike could you know. It's like
it could be, you know, and that's why how many
years have we said that you put it? Put it?
Make it like vodka? I mean, you you never walk
into a bar and never you rarely walk into a
bar and get into a raging debate with somebody over
what's the best vodka you You'll go in and you'll

(01:33:00):
be like, just give me whatever you got. That's you know,
if you're into if you're into top shelf, then you're
gonna go in and you're gonna order top shelf. You're
gonna be boogie and fancy like that. You're gonna get
your top shelf. Just whatever you got that's in the
range of you know, And it's same with whiskey, Like
you have your personal preferences, but y'all you understand which
ones belong on the same shelf. I think that's the
way we should look at football players, like who belongs

(01:33:21):
on a championship caliber shelf? Well, the.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
That's very good.

Speaker 4 (01:33:26):
I mean point, Jalen Hurts belongs on a championship caliber shelf.
You know that he can get you to a super Bowl.
You know he can play in a super Bowl. You
know he's gonna be money in a super Bowl. Like, Okay,
I'll played Mahomes in both of them. Like, there are
no questions left to be answered about Jalen Hurts. He's
a Super Bowl champion? Is he the best quarterback in

(01:33:47):
the NFL right now? Don't care. That's just that's my
honest answer that I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
Yeah, I feel you around the league coming up.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
Uh, we're gonna do that each of It's where they're
at going into the off season.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
Fellas right here, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (01:34:07):
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listen live.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
Welcome back, Fellas from the tire Rack dot com. Studios,
Jason Fitz Anthony Gargano. All right, so let's take a,
you know, a look around the league going into the
off season, where each team is, and just you know,
a couple of sentences is just to kind of figure out,

(01:34:41):
you know, what to expect as the off season commences
and combine about the Combine is in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
I mean, it's right here, and then the Draft.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
I mean, it's funny how it sneaks it sneaks on you,
sneaks up on you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
I gotta leave that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:02):
This new.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
I guess in two years is when they'll add the
next game, the eighteenth game, when the cnba's up.

Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
I would think that's when they're gonna do it. I
saw somebody posts yesterday that the Super Bowl falls on
Valentine's Day in twenty twenty six, so you know that
that we've got that to look forward to. I don't
think it'll be so it'll be after that that everything
will be even further delayed.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
Right, which everybody wants anyway, because it's going to be
it'll it'll it'll be President's Day weekend, right, So there's
nothing better than being off on Monday after the Super Bowl,
like it never you've pushed it this far.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
Why not just do it? Right, Like, why not just
go and do it? It's perfect.

Speaker 4 (01:35:53):
Yeah, although I still would be a proponent of Super
Bowl Saturday if we wanted, you know, but yes, I
hear you, Like, if we're gonna have President's Day, that
solves the whole problem that we do need a day
to recover. Like, the concept of a national holiday around
the super Bowl is a bit weird to me. Like
I think of national holidays as having you know, tremendous

(01:36:14):
gravitas and importance to you know, to America, Like the
fourth of July is significant for our country. You know.
It's just the concept of a holiday around the super
Bowl feels like we're giving a little bit too much
weight to a sport. But I'm all in for President's
Day being the weekend in the super Bowl. That seems

(01:36:34):
like a fair compromise.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
Yeah, it's factually perfect, you know, it's perfect for it.
All right, So let's go AFC first. We'll start in
the West, and we'll start with the Chiefs. So clearly
you and I said this to the start to show
they're not going anywhere. It's not like they're gonna be

(01:36:57):
They're done. Patrick Holmes is twenty nine years old, got
plenty of football left, even if Travis Kelcey does not.
They have to figure out what to do with a
four to five. The four to five they're o line.
Look defensively, I voted Bags's game plan was kind of

(01:37:18):
what you do. But you know, when your offense isn't
getting anything, it's hard to get off the field.

Speaker 4 (01:37:28):
Yeah, I mean, this is Do they have areas of concern?
Yes they do. Are they still a Super Bowl favorite
next year? Yes they are. Like, let's not get it twisted.
This was a weak Chiefs team that still won fifteen games.
So I don't see any reason that the Chiefs won't
still win, you know, thirteen, fourteen to fifteen games, because

(01:37:50):
that's part of who they are. I don't want to
let the way the Super Bowl turned out suddenly changed
the narrative of what the team was the entire Maybe
they were lucky, but my god, I don't know until
I see them unlucky for any prolonged amount of time.
I'm gonna believe that they continue to run it back.
So the Chiefs are gonna be just fine.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
Now, this is a really good division potentially could be
a really really good division because you got the Chargers,
who I saw were thirty three to one to win
it all. And I think that's live man Harball second year.
He fixed Herbert and he fixed the offense. Wait till

(01:38:35):
he get some skill people in there. I like the Chargers.

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
Chargers have the fifth most cap space going into this year.
It also happens to be a wildly deep draft at
three different positions offensive line, defensive line, and running back.
They're just star running backs all over the place.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
On this one.

Speaker 4 (01:38:54):
I would not be surprised at all to see the
Chargers go out and get themselves, you know, some bell
cow opportunity. They're gonna run the football, They're gonna be
big and physical, They're gonna do these things. Chargers take
a big step forward. Yeah, there's no reason to think
that they aren't going to be a deep playoff contending
super Bowl caliber type. You know, they'll be in that
proximity in the AFC.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
I think, yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
Another team that I thought was a blast to watch,
also with a young quarterback, Bo Nicks and the Broncos.
I think the Broncos already uptick too.

Speaker 4 (01:39:30):
Yeah, and I think that's because bo is ahead of schedule.
They still need a bunch of playmakers, I think, you know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
But they need help on defense. I mean, Peyton's got
to get to some of the help on defense. But
you know, he's a great coach and he's gonna You know,
that team took a big leap last year I thought.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
And they're they're ahead of where I thought they would be.
And yeah, I mean the Broncos should be competing for
a playoff spot next year. They're in a really good position.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
All right. I'll leave this one to you, Pete Carroll.

Speaker 4 (01:40:01):
I think, look, the people I've talked to continue to
echo that the Raiders are doing a ton of homework
on veteran quarterbacks. I think they're gonna make a strong
push to try and sign Sam Donald. I think that
is gonna be their their offseason quarterback move. And then
they go best player available at six in the draft.
So this is my sneaky prediction. I believe they're gonna

(01:40:23):
they're gonna sign Sam Donald. I feel like that's where
they're gonna try and go. They got the second most
cap space with the sixth overall pick in the draft.
I think the Raiders might take Ashton Genty and put
themselves in a situation where with Pete Carroll are doing
exactly what I just mentioned, Like they're handing off to
Ashton Genty combined with brock Bauers a ton of money
to spend. I think the Raiders, you know, best case scenario,

(01:40:45):
there's six or seven win team next year, but they're
a hell of a lot more respectful, so respected, I
think I think they'll take some good strides for it.
I don't think they're a playoff team by any stretch,
like again home run off season, They're years away from that.
But I think that they have a chance to at
least be respectable.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
Yeah, I like I like the idea of Gent going
to the Raiders. Do you like Donald?

Speaker 4 (01:41:09):
I don't like cam Or Shadour, So I think if
they're doing Donald on a four year deal where the
first two years of it are guaranteed, I think it
actually makes a lot of sense. Like I don't love
Sam Donald. But the other part of it to me
is I trust Pete Carroll. So you know, Pete Carroll
found Russ, and Pete Carroll knew that Gina wasn't washed,

(01:41:30):
So you know if he takes him, I trust him.
Chip Kelly's offense with Sam Donald, I don't know. I
don't love any of that. I don't love any of
the quarterback answers, but I just I don't think. I
think the two quarterbacks that everybody's obsessed with her are
gonna end up falling a little bit more than most
people think.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
Wow, yeah, I can see that. I can totally see
that all right to the south. So let's look at
the Texans slow of injuries. I know CJ took a
step back from his amazing rookie year, but I think

(01:42:12):
he comes back and.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
Another one.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
They need just need to fortify their offensive line, and
they dealt with a bunch of injuries.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
They had great receivers and they were all hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
Yeah, and they're also going to be working in a
new offensive coordinator. I think that's interesting. But yeah, this
team just needs to get healthy and get them healthy
and then see what they can be. So I think
CJ is still CJ. And this guy is not falling
to me on CJ strout at all. So yeah, I
still like the Texans, especially in a really easy to

(01:42:45):
win division like the Titans. Suck the Jags suck like
these the Colts don't have a quarterback, they suck. So yeah,
I think it's an easily winnable division for a team
that just needs to get healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
Well you mentioned it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
I mean JAG's new code and it's all gonna be
about Trevor Lawrence. Can Trevor Lawrence be fixed?

Speaker 4 (01:43:05):
And I think it's hysterical, Like there were rumors this
week that the Steelers made phone calls to acquire to
inquire about the availability of Trevor Lawrence. This shows you
how stupid the world is sometimes. Who's the GM of
the Jags right now that would even take that phone call?
Like they don't have a GM, they're still interviewing GM.

(01:43:26):
So it just shows you, like the rumor mill always spins,
and so often this stuff is just wildly inaccurate, Like
do we believe Liam Cohen is over here taking calls
on Trevor Lawrence? There's absolutely nothing shot con that the
owner of the team is out on his you know, yacht.
So to me, the Jags are a joke. They still
don't even know what they're doing as an organization, and

(01:43:48):
there's no reason to believe anything we hear that has
anything to do with the Jags right now?

Speaker 3 (01:43:52):
Yeah, yeah, And then you got a couple, you know,
teams with quandaries at quarterback at what kind of directional
Tennessee in Indianapolis.

Speaker 4 (01:44:08):
Indianapolis needs to go get a starter to compete with
Anthony Richardson. I don't. I don't think there's any question
about that. But they're also on the hot seat right now.
I think a stike and everybody there has got to
prove something.

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
So I don't know how you do that without the
quarterback because right again, again, I don't know that that
Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
You know, they tried to turn it over to him
and he couldn't handle it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:34):
Which is why, like I just want everybody to remember that, Like, look,
these guys are all different, but I don't think cam
Or should do her either. One is going to turn
out to be more successful than even Anthony Richardson. So
you know, it is funny that as desperate as teams
get to, oh, we got a draft quarterback, Well, if
you draft wrong, man, everybody's getting fired. So I'm with you.

(01:44:56):
I don't think there's an easy answer. You want to
talk about the type of spot that you know might
look at a Daniel Jones and hope that you can
get something out of them. I don't know, I just
that that feels and then the Titans. Look I honestly,
I genuinely believe that Aaron Rodgers to the Titans makes
a lot of sense, Like he can go somewhere where

(01:45:16):
when he's running off of the mouth. Nobody's gonna pay
attention to it. The Titans are, I mean, unfortunately for
Titans fans, the league just doesn't pay attention to the Titans.
Like they have the first pick in the draft, and
nobody's sitting here clamoring saying, oh my god, what are
the Titans gonna do? Like it's just I know, it's weird,
isn't it. They're invisible as a franchise they have.

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
They really are the invisible franchise. That's it's a great
way to to capitalize them. You're you're right on.

Speaker 4 (01:45:46):
Can't tell me that the league didn't wish the Browns
at the first overall pick, because it's just people don't genuinely,
the Titans don't move the needle. So if Aaron Rodgers
goes there and he's on McAfee every week, people in
Nashville won't care, The Titans won't care, the general media
won't care. You know, I think Aaron can go just
be weird and it's not even a distraction. And I

(01:46:09):
just I don't believe camera schador is the answer. So
I don't believe will Levis is either. But if I'm Titans,
the Titans, I want to try and I want to
punt on making a quarterback decision this year, and I'd
rather go best player available. Well, whether you believe that's
a dual Carter or Travis Hunter, I would go best
player available.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
Yeah, I agree with Carter's going to be a beast.
He's going to be a monster. All right, Let's go
to the to the East and you're the Bills and
you're back at it. Ye're you know, once again, take
that all season Grinn and Barrett Man, let's go back

(01:46:52):
at it.

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
Those gotta get some I mean, I do believe they've
got to get some help for Josh Allen I and
Bills fans. Bills fans continually yell at me and say no, no, no,
it's all about the defensive side of the ball, and
they blah blah blah. I just man, it's watching late
in the season and just thinking, God, he could use

(01:47:14):
some help with somebody that is just a surefire, and
that's what they're trying to get with Amari Cooper. But
like the third and six, who should go to guy
like I just I would love to see them get
a true different Like They'd have to do a lot
of work financially to make it happen, but I would
love to see somebody like t Higgins in Buffalo. I

(01:47:35):
just a true go to number one guy that can
take over. We need a tough catch it. And I
know they've got defensive needs too, but man, I would
just I would love to see, well they do.

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
I mean ultimately, and you're right, like ultimately Josh Allen
can't play Superman forever. But and the other thing too
is you know that game was one if they could
just get stops mh right, you know like once again,

(01:48:09):
if they just get one key stop, they win the game.

Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
Yeah, they need they need. Yeah, there's got to be
a disruptor to take Like to go back to what
we said earlier, how do you beat mahomes? Like, where's
your Jaalen Carter? They got like they've got some guys
you know that certainly have have shown flashes, but they've
they've got to find more help.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
Uh, then you got the Jets suck.

Speaker 4 (01:48:37):
I mean the Jets. The Jets are punting on Aaron
Rodgers and they have no idea who their quarterback is
going to be. Like, if I'm the Jets, I go
into full rebuild mode at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:48:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48:47):
Yeah, but but mind you, you're right to punt Aaron Rodgers.
I mean, that's not a good marriage. He's got to
get out of New York just exactly for what you
said about him being in Tennessee works perfectly.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
Yeah, I agree, and he needs you know, he does
need to go somewhere else. Can you can't end it
on that note that was that? Would you know? That
would be a shame for him, right for the legacy.

Speaker 4 (01:49:14):
Keep an eye on Quinn Williams too, because, like I mean,
he went to Twitter to I guess it's another rebuild
for me, you know, And we just got to remember
that there's some defensive linemen out there that are are
not going to hold their tongues about where things are going. So,
you know, I just it's an interesting at least moment
to look around and say, Okay, Jets, Jets, players are

(01:49:35):
going to have to accept another rebuild, and not all
of them are going to be excited about that. Yeah, Patriots,
it's one of the worst rosters in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
Right, I mean you like the coach, right, love the coach,
Love the coach, and now you gotta go get a
roster that you know, this is the roll your sleep
up that Yeah, awful. God, look at the skilled guys
on that squad.

Speaker 4 (01:50:08):
And this is where I continued like, look, they've got
the most money to spend and it's not even close.
They have the most available salary cap space over the cap.
Dot Com right now has them at almost one hundred
and twenty million dollars of available cap space. So I
hear you, Patriots fans. I will just go back to
what I said earlier. And I've been consistent on this
with every team I've ever talked about. If you need ten, eleven,

(01:50:32):
twelve new starters, that is a two or three year process.
And so, you know, talking even to Teddy Bruski a
little bit at the Super Bowl and I kept asking
him what he thought best case scenario was, and he said, Hey,
you know, best case scenario is this team takes a
leap up to six seven, eight wins and is closer
in a year to get where they need to be.
And I just think Patriots fans don't want to hear patients.

(01:50:54):
But I think New England needs two or three off
seasons to truly rebuild the roster. And that's that's just
that's best case scenario, two or three perfect off seasons
and then maybe they're back into competing.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
Maybe. And Andy got the weirdest situation, which is Miami.

Speaker 4 (01:51:15):
Are the Dolphins good or the Dolphins knock? I don't
know the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (01:51:20):
I try to figure about that because there's aspects of
the Dolphins I really like that can be dynamic.

Speaker 2 (01:51:27):
But I guess it comes down to the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:51:29):
Man, how do you feel about the quarterback who gets
hurt and the concussions and everything else. And I, you know,
I'm you know, it's a shame because he's the you know,
tough kid and been through a lot. You know, two
has really really been through a ton. But he's not
Jalen Hurts in that sense.

Speaker 4 (01:51:51):
Right yeah, And Miami's now they're going to have to
figure out a lot of contracts to just wiggle around
some of this money. And right now, they're five million
over the cap. There. I know that's funny money that
could be worked out, but it does impact some of
you know, where you're gonna build and how you're gonna build.
So I man, it's like the Dolphins. I don't want

(01:52:12):
to say their their window shut, but it certainly doesn't
feel like it's opened the way I thought it would be.
You know, it's the Dolphins feel like sort of a
mid football team with the with the quarterback that I'm
not sure they can totally trust to stay healthy for
obvious reasons. And you know, a roster that is good
not great, with the coach that seems like maybe he's

(01:52:33):
in the category of good not great. Also, it's it's
interesting how the narrative has shifted so hard on Miami.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
All Right, we'll come back.

Speaker 3 (01:52:41):
We'll do the North which is fascinating NFC next hour,
and then we'll also take a look at some of
the college slate, well college hoop action where the fellas
hanging out right here?

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
Fox Sports Radio, who's the man it fits? Go? Buddy?

Speaker 4 (01:53:07):
Can I blow your mind?

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
Please?

Speaker 4 (01:53:09):
Did you see this yesterday that they have identified Jack
the Ripper. Now, this is a true story, this is
a true story after one hundred and thirty seven years.
There was a scarf from one of the victims that
was auctioned off a few years ago, and the person

(01:53:29):
that bought the scarf in the auction was like a
historian that's written novels on Jack the Ripper, And they
immediately started doing DNA to lift from the old bloodstains
of this scarf that was from an eighteen eighty eight
murder scene. That's an actual real number, eighteen eighty eight,

(01:53:50):
and the great great grand niece of Aaron Kazminski, who
had apparently been also ad a long time suspect, had
submitted DNA and a one hundred percent DNA match from
the shawl founded Catherine Edo's eighteen eighty eight murder scene
confirms that Aaron Kazminski was Jack the Ripper. How about

(01:54:11):
that thirty seven years later DNA matches and we now
know who Jack the Ripper was, Like I don't know,
Like it's yeah, And and not only this, but like
Aaron the Ripper was a barber, so very barber of Seville,
very like Sweeney Todd of all of this, but there
you go. It turns out that he was a he

(01:54:33):
was a barber and we now know.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
Jack the Ripper.

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
How crazy is that?

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
That is wild? That's a wild story.

Speaker 4 (01:54:42):
It's just you know, in the modern world, kids, you'll
never get away with anything. You know, they'll get your
DNA one hundred and thirty years later. So just don't
commit any crimes people, that's the that's a valuable lesson here.
Don't commit crimes.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
That's a that's a great that's a great story.

Speaker 4 (01:55:03):
Jack the Ripper found him.

Speaker 2 (01:55:05):
Now you got me Google on it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:08):
Yeah, I went down. I wasn't sure if it was
real at first, like because you can't trust anything anymore.
But a shout out to a news Nation who I've
gone to really enjoy News Nation in general. I've appeared
on there several times just talking football over the course
of the season, and News Nation put a story.

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
Up on it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:27):
I trust that. So that let me down the rabbit
hole of verified people. And then yes, it turns out
that this is real. The DNA is confirmed.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
That's wild. Man. Aaron Kazminski feels like a Jack the
Ripper name. Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:55:46):
Yes, he's a Polish immigrant who worked as a barber
upon moving to London. He was twenty three years old
when he went on a killing spree and was actually
a suspect at one point. Durning investigation, he died in
a mental institute in nineteen nineteen.

Speaker 4 (01:56:06):
Huh, it's a crazy to think all of that came
from a one hundred and seven thirty seven year old
shawl that still had blood DNA on it. Like an
interesting nugget that when these original crimes happened, fingerprinting wasn't
even yet being used as an effective way of identifying

(01:56:28):
a suspect. So just think about like murder back in
eighteen eighty eight, they couldn't fingerprint. They're like, how'd you
find anybody? I don't know how you how you actually
caught a kid crimes?

Speaker 2 (01:56:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:56:40):
Like what did you do to solve a crime when
you had no no fingerprints, no DNA, no anything. You know.
It's a it's it's funny and as a Law and
Order fanatic, like I'm the first to admit law the
original Law and Order missed me with the rest of them,
but the original Law and Order I can watch all
day every day, and it's funny just watching some of
the episodes from the ninety's and seeing how different even now,

(01:57:03):
the process of solving crime is you know what I mean,
It's like, it's just the concept of all right, guys,
just take a quick to and a swab and we'll
know who did it, whether whether or not this person.
But you got to go back and realize that at
that period that wasn't part of the part of the
lexicon for how these things were solved.

Speaker 3 (01:57:18):
So there you go, Wow, that's wild, that's wild. Who
in the uh did Johnny Depp movie The Ripper was
a medical? Was a doctor?

Speaker 4 (01:57:31):
Hmmm?

Speaker 3 (01:57:33):
Which would which you know you would probably assume right,
like that would be the the Barbers. Is that that's fat? Like,
that's pretty good, Sweeney Todd, You're right, that's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:57:46):
I feel like this is somebody now is doing a
complete rewrite of Sweeney Todd making it the Jack the
Ripper Musical, and they're gonna make a ton of money off.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
Of it, right, I know. Well, now now we enter.

Speaker 3 (01:57:58):
I don't know about you, but I I now reconnect
with movies and television like this is when you know,
when it comes to series and movies, this is when
I'll watch the lion's share of them.

Speaker 2 (01:58:16):
Between now and the tournament. I'm big on that this
is the.

Speaker 4 (01:58:20):
Only time to get to do that because you know, frankly,
when you're up in New England, once you get to summer,
you don't want to be sitting inside binge watching TV
like it's this is the nice time of year, you know,
so yeah, you got to do it now. While it's
like it's why I actually kind of enjoy winter because
it forces you to slow down and just you know,
watch a little TV, just relax a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:58:41):
Yeah, toasty and warm. You're right, all right, Uh, we'll
get back to the NFL. I want to continue going
through all the teams kind of the state of where
they're at, and we've got to do The North is
fascinating because of each of those teams are contenders.

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of unpacking this super Bowl and then looking forward to
the off season, going team by team into the off
season of kind of where we're at.

Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
I was talking about the parade early on.

Speaker 3 (02:00:11):
Here's what I do know that outside of Philadelphia, nobody
cares about the parade. The one thing people don't like
in sports sports fans is watching one city celebrate.

Speaker 2 (02:00:25):
It's the ultimate fomo.

Speaker 4 (02:00:28):
Which to me, man, I don't know. I feel like
you're just sitting back and watching a fan base that
loves it passionately go for it. Like I don't know,
I think it's kind of an amazing thing. I'm a
big fan of parades. I'm a big fan of joy
I'm a big fan of Super Bowl championships being celebrated. Man, Like,
I hope you have spent an uncomfortable amount of money

(02:00:50):
in the last week on Super Bowl things I do. Yeah,
like every one of those.

Speaker 2 (02:00:55):
Oh yeah, my wife, we all watch, you know, we
watched the right after the Super Bowl. She was on
the line ordered all the gear for the kids and everybody.
So yep.

Speaker 4 (02:01:06):
I mean that's just part of the wait to want
the fight like it's takes. So it's such a special
moment to get the opportunity to win a Super Bowl
that I just I feel like these there's no such
thing as act like you've been here before if you're
a fan, like act like you're never going to get

(02:01:26):
here again. It's just soaking every stink and second of it. Yeah,
love every ounce of it because it just feels like
it's such an important like these are the victories that
you have to celebrate to make all of the years
to despair worth it, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:01:41):
Oh yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (02:01:43):
And my wildest imagination, I would not have figured the
Eagles to be in three super Bowls in nine years,
let alone win two of Yeah, in eight years, I
mean I still stop.

Speaker 2 (02:01:59):
It's stunning.

Speaker 3 (02:02:00):
You go, they go to super Bowl fifty two without
winning one, then they're in three and win two.

Speaker 4 (02:02:10):
Yeah, that's to be in this era. You have to
appreciate it even more though, right, like just knowing how
hard and how long it took to get here. You know,
I think it's fair that their kids in Philly that
are going to have no idea what fifty years of
suffering feels like. Thank god, you know, like that's that's great.

(02:02:30):
But for you, it just has to hit different knowing
that you waited so long, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:02:35):
Yeah, yeah, I know, it's pretty cool. All right.

Speaker 3 (02:02:39):
Let's continue our foray around the league right as we
begin the off season. A lot of teams have question
marks what they are, you know, kind of take a
snapshot of where these teams are at. So we've done
three of the four divisions in the AFC. Let's go

(02:03:01):
to the North, which is a great division. Man, it
really is. Ravens still king in your eyes?

Speaker 4 (02:03:09):
Yeah for sure. And you know, I think the Ravens
certainly had their opportunity this year. It didn't come together
the way they wanted it to. But the Ravens are
not a team that has to suddenly make wild wholesale
changes to everything that their defense too committed to get together.
Once it did, I think it was a much different
level the Ravens going to be just fine.

Speaker 2 (02:03:29):
They're gonna be.

Speaker 4 (02:03:30):
They are in proximity, they will remain in proximity. They
got There's nothing I'm concerned about on their ability to
compete for a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (02:03:38):
Yeah, you know we always talk about there.

Speaker 3 (02:03:41):
I think their front, could you use a little little something,
you know, get back to their defense, Like their defense
was not raven, Like their offense is great, they can
you know, probably use another receiver you got you know,

(02:04:01):
remember they were all banged up at the end. Zay
Flowers was heard at the end. There was a big deal. Uh.
Then you got Cincinnati, a team that had they have
gotten in you wonder about because they're so dangerous. Burrows
so good, that offense is dynamic, but again, can you

(02:04:22):
protect him and can you play defense?

Speaker 4 (02:04:25):
Yeah? I just think that the Bengals absolute waste of
another great year a Burrow is disgusting. And you know
the fact that it took them so long to make
a change a defensive coordinator is something that I will
never be able to make sense of. But if you
are the Bengals, it's very clear, like what you have

(02:04:47):
to do, you know what the opportunities out there, like
you you truly have one of the one of the
best quarterbacks in the NFL. We know that, so now
can you make the most of it? And I look,
I see them build a quality defense. I'm not going
to believe in their quality of the quality of their defense,
but that's the only thing they got to figure out,

(02:05:07):
you know.

Speaker 2 (02:05:07):
Yeah, yeah, Pittsburgh, no quarterback. They're not have a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (02:05:15):
They're not gonna have a quarterback. Like they're still not
gonna have a quarterback this year. The quarterback answer is
not does not exist. So you know, if I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:05:25):
Pittsburgh, would would you do Rogers there? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:05:30):
At this point, Look, Aaron Rodgers played better in the
last five six weeks of the season than he had.
He's a little bit further removed from the Achilles injury.
Maybe you think he's got a little bit left in
his tank. You know, you're bringing him to a coach
that can handle the distraction of him. So yes, I
would have no problem with Aaron Rodgers there. But if

(02:05:52):
I'm if I'm the Steelers, I just have to acknowledge
that I need a quarterback and there isn't one there
for me to have. So I don't know I'd feel
better about Aaron Rodgers than I would the rest of
my alternatives. Like, somewhere in this process, Daniel Jones is
going to start. I believe Daniel is going to get
a shot. And so I keep looking at Daniel Jones
and saying, Okay, do they believe they can milk a

(02:06:15):
little bit out of Daniel Jones? I like, do they
believe that they can, you know, milk something out of
you know, Jameis I don't think so. So you know, so, yeah,
you're you're basically looking at the best of a bad lot.

Speaker 3 (02:06:30):
And then you know, ten miles Hunt, ten miles away
is Cleveland, right, and you got the.

Speaker 2 (02:06:36):
More issues there.

Speaker 3 (02:06:39):
Yeah, they're going to have the same quarterback issues because
I love Kevin Stevanska.

Speaker 2 (02:06:44):
I think he's a terrific coach.

Speaker 3 (02:06:46):
Again, they had one major issue that set them back,
and that was the Shawn Watson.

Speaker 4 (02:06:54):
Yeah, and there's just no getting out of it. I think,
to me, the hardest part about this is that clearly
you need a solution, and the solution is at some
level to get a different quarterback. But how do you
do that? So, you know, I think they're just kind
of they're stuck there. They're stuck still and there's no
easy answer to it.

Speaker 3 (02:07:15):
Now, Now, all right to the n f C. Let's
start out west, Niners. I mean, you know, you got
the McCaffrey issue. You got what are you going to
do with the receivers? Who you keeping? You got a

(02:07:39):
defense that's lost its teeth. Are the Niners done?

Speaker 4 (02:07:46):
I feel like it, don't you?

Speaker 2 (02:07:48):
Like, yeah, the run is done.

Speaker 4 (02:07:51):
It feels like they're in a little bit of a
rebuild minute here, you know, and they're going to have
to rebuild with a lot of different weapons. And they
health was such a huge part of the issue this year,
but that's not going away. They're not getting younger in
any of these key spots and so and now they're
gonna have to make a real decision on what to
do with Brock. So, man, I don't envy where the

(02:08:11):
forty nine ers are right now. I think the forty
nine ers are. They've blinked, and it feels like their
windows a little bit more closed than it was. And
by the way, I like, we're quickly going to learn
that whether or not Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay belong
in the same sentence, Like the rams get some benefit
of the doubt for the way they consistently have been

(02:08:31):
able to rebuild through this process. And you know, we
can't say the same for the forty nine ers right now.
So they're they're in a they're in a.

Speaker 2 (02:08:38):
Bit of a pick, a bit of a girk.

Speaker 3 (02:08:40):
Yeah, and then and then you'll get the Rams and
you know again, you got an aging quarterback and Cup
won't be back. And they look, they took the Eagles
to the brink. They played the Eagles better than anybody.
And who knows if not for Jalen Carter punching out
the ball on Kyed Williams as the Rams are driving

(02:09:02):
to take the lead, or at the end of the
game what he sacks Stafford, who knows, could have been
a different story. But I just don't know going forward,
how much you know, you know again, you got it's
all about Stafford and whether or not continue to play
that level.

Speaker 4 (02:09:20):
Yeah, and whether or not he's going to commit. You know,
one thing that Charles Robinson has said with me on
one of our Yahoo shows repeatedly is that there seems
to be some indication that, you know, McVeigh doesn't really
want to have to redo this every year, so they
like they'd like to know that, you know, are we
getting two years? And Stafford doesn't seem to be willing

(02:09:40):
to want to do that, like are we at a
fork in the road moment? And that makes things really
tough for the Rams because there isn't a clear cut
replacement for Stafford right now. Like I I think that
that that's what makes the difficult. There isn't a guy
that they can look at and say, well, this is
this is going to be our bridge, you know, so
so what are you going to do? And you know
where Stafford going to go? Because you know, Stafford costs

(02:10:03):
a ton of money, and so part of its financial,
part of its commitment, all of these things at once.
I think the Rams are in They're in a bit
of a rock and a hard place here trying to
figure out how to build around the quarterback position moving
forward for a team that was way ahead of schedule.

Speaker 2 (02:10:18):
Yeah, yep, now you got The other two teams are
interesting because.

Speaker 3 (02:10:26):
I like Seattle. I think Seattle's got the bones of something.
But again, you know, Gina is just okay. I like
their defense a lot. They got terrific, good young skill guys.
They need to get better on the fronts on the
both their D line and their O line. But their

(02:10:46):
back seven is nice on defense and they're I like
their skilled people on offense.

Speaker 4 (02:10:53):
Yeah, and I do think that, remembering that when they
brought in their coach, there was a conversation about how
long it would take that defense to settle down into
his system. I think there is an adjustment to that,
and these Seahawks are still sort of deciding what their
identity is going to be post Pete Carroll. Also, so
you know, it's you're right. I don't love Geno, but

(02:11:15):
I don't dislike Gino enough to want to get rid
of him. But I do constantly look at the Seahawks
and think, man, this should be better if we're being honest,
like the weapons that they have on the outside, and
I believe a lot in their running back room. You know,
they should have a pretty simple job for their quarterbacks. So,
you know, it just the Seahawks feel like they're sort

(02:11:37):
of stuck in no man's land right now, not good
enough to be great and not bad enough to be bad.
So I don't know what changes that.

Speaker 3 (02:11:45):
And then Arizona, you know, you think they should be better, Yeah,
you know, and they need another receiver need something.

Speaker 2 (02:11:55):
I mean, Kyler played well last year.

Speaker 4 (02:11:58):
Yeah, I don't think Kyler was really the you know,
to that end, and you're right, like we had huge
expectations from Marvin Harrison Junior and he was fine. He
was fine. But man, that sort of describes this this
Arizona team. They're fine, Like how do they take a
dramatic step forward? And it feels like they're constantly saying
we're just one weapon away, but they're always one weapon away.

(02:12:21):
It's they're stuck. Also, it's a very strange spot for
that franchise to be in.

Speaker 3 (02:12:27):
All right, to the NFC South. The team that I
think do you have to watch out for it in
the South is Atlanta because I like Panix a lot
and you know, I love I think Atlanta is poised
to make some move. I think they're in a good
spot now. Obviously Tampa coming off a terrific year. I

(02:12:50):
think Baker solidified himself as a quarterback. But I think
Atlanta is going to be a team that's got a
real chance.

Speaker 4 (02:12:58):
Yeah, you're right, and it's going to be a beautiful
thing to watch Michael Pennock Junior just blossom this year.
Like I really think that's going to turn out to be.
We're gonna end up with just a historic draft class
out of last year. And frankly, as weird as it is,
I even think that just the fact that he sat

(02:13:18):
when he sat probably helped in this whole process too.
I am curious to see if Kirk keeps playing somewhere,
you know, there aren't there's certainly gonna be enough spots
open is Kirk. Does Kirk end up in San Francisco
as a backup? Does he end up somewhere trying to start?
You know, what happens with them is really interesting to me.

Speaker 3 (02:13:38):
Then you got uh, and then Tampa. I mean, look, listen,
tamp Is. I mean they had a great year. They
had a great Baker had a great year.

Speaker 2 (02:13:49):
That team.

Speaker 3 (02:13:51):
You know how long Mike Evans could do it. He's
just wonder But you know, Bucky Irving's a stud. So
they got a great act for the future. They have
you know, uh, they have a good old line. I mean,
that's a good team. It's a good offense.

Speaker 4 (02:14:09):
Yeah. Look that they've become consistently the best team in
their division for a reason. And Baker gets guys paid
like at this point, I don't. I think it's fair
to say, Hey, how much of it is the offensive
coordinated this with Baker, and how much of it is
the Baker has finally just stepped into being who he is. Right, Look,
the Bucks over simplification here. The Bucks are going to

(02:14:31):
continually be the best team in a bad division. There's
no reason for me to think that that's going anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:14:37):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (02:14:39):
And then, you know, Carolina is an interesting piece because
you go, all right, did the quarterbacks show be enough
to get me excited?

Speaker 4 (02:14:49):
I think the answer is maybe. But I'm really glad
that they showed enough to not draft someone this year
because I don't think there's a better option. So it's
kind of a win in for Carolina. If Bryce plays
really well next year, then hey, you avoided having to
go back into the market. If he doesn't, you're going
back into the market on a much better draft than

(02:15:09):
you're gonna get this year, you know. And that's so
I think this is a win win for Carolina. But
because I do think Bryce, as it stands today, if
they were all in the draft at the same time,
Bryce would be a higher ranked prospect than either of
the quarterbacks. People are talking about this year, so I
wouldn't want to have to go back in. But do
I feel confident. No, I mean the Panthers feel like

(02:15:32):
they're just sort of stuck, like they're getting their sea legs,
you know.

Speaker 2 (02:15:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:15:37):
And then of course the Saints a complete rebuild Kellen Moore,
of you, coach, and you got to pick up the
pieces again if.

Speaker 2 (02:15:46):
You're in the Orleans.

Speaker 4 (02:15:48):
Yeah, I'm still curious what happens with Derek Carr. Like again,
you're talking about a quarterback that's not good enough but
also not bad enough, and the cap number is the
cap numbers, so you know, are this ain't gonna try
and do something with it this year? They're just gonna
run it back with Carr for a year. I just
I don't know what the right thing to do is
with Derek Carr, who's certainly not good enough to be

(02:16:10):
the guy that you would want to build around for
the rest of your life, but also not bad enough
to turn around and just you know, pull the plug
on completely. And I mean again, in a world where
we've got we're sitting here trying to figure out if
Jamis is going to get another job, Like you know,
Derek Carr. Certainly, you want to tell me that the
Titans wouldn't be better off having Derek Carr than anybody

(02:16:30):
they could draft this year. I think the answer to
that is yes, and that includes the Saints. By the way,
I think the Saints are better off with Derek Carr
than they would be with whoever they could get it, whatever,
the ninth pick in the draft.

Speaker 3 (02:16:41):
On to the NFC East. The Eagles, well, they're poised
to repeat. They're young in all the right places. I
talked about it earlier. Defensively, they're just really formidable.

Speaker 4 (02:16:56):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:16:57):
They haven't the best defense in the NFL. This defense
rivaled the eighty five Bears, the two thousand Ravens, the
Broncos against Carolina for the most dominating Super Bowl performance.
They're all young, they're getting better, they're coming together even more.

(02:17:18):
I mean, they got a wicked front of young talent
led by Jentlen Carter, good young linebackers, terrific young corners
in the secondary.

Speaker 2 (02:17:30):
I mean they're gonna be scary again.

Speaker 4 (02:17:33):
Yeah, there's no reason to think that they won't be.
Right back in the conversation next year. That's they're built.
They're built to be good for the next several years
and it's gonna be a fun run.

Speaker 2 (02:17:42):
Yeah. And then.

Speaker 3 (02:17:46):
You got Washington because if there's one team that's gonna
look to take the step up, it's the you know,
in their first year. The whole thing jay you know,
Jade Daniels is the story the NFL. The Darling gets
all the way to the title game. Think about that,
and they still you know, they're in the infancy of

(02:18:08):
what they're building there.

Speaker 2 (02:18:10):
So you know, Commanders fans like football's back in the Capitol.

Speaker 4 (02:18:14):
Third most cap space, coming into this year, way ahead
of schedule for where anybody thought they would be and
going to be able to address some of their needs
in the draft yard. The Commanders feel like they're they're
well positioned right now, and that's that's an amazing I
can't take anything away from where the Commanders are right
now because it's it's pretty stunning to see what they

(02:18:34):
did all in the first year of Jayden. His ability
to take a leap in year two is going to
be absolutely staggering to watch it. It's he's about to
take the league over. Cannot wait.

Speaker 3 (02:18:44):
Yeah, yeah, all right, We'll continue the rest of the
East and the North which is still going.

Speaker 2 (02:18:50):
To be the most interesting division. We'll do that. We'll
take a look at some hoops. No brain today, he's
getting married. Fits.

Speaker 4 (02:18:58):
Oh look at that.

Speaker 3 (02:19:00):
Yeah, the brain's getting married. So we wish to brain
lots of love and happiness.

Speaker 2 (02:19:06):
And we'll take a look at sports from a betting standpoint.

Speaker 3 (02:19:09):
You and I take a look at the college hoop
card and everything else where the fellas right here on
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (02:19:22):
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to
listen live.

Speaker 2 (02:19:39):
I hear you, FITZI.

Speaker 4 (02:19:43):
You know what, I think we need a live horn
section on the show. Yeah, you know, we talk to
the bosses about this, like, just need a live horn
section to play us in and out taking applications. We
don't have the power for that. It's an unpaid position.
But I just I just want I want this. I
want just the instrumental version of this with a bunch

(02:20:05):
of horns in the background. I think that's my summer
Oh my god, yeah, it's my summer objective. Because I
never learned to play anything that like involves wind instruments
things like that, And I really want to play the
saxophone just so I can play the solo to Careless
Whisper over and over and over again, like I can
play it on a fiddle. But that's a cool Like
I'm going to learn how to play the sacks this

(02:20:25):
summer just so maybe by the end of the summer
I'll just start playing the sacks in the middle of
the show, you know, once I get it to not
do it back.

Speaker 2 (02:20:33):
You know, fabulous dying in the back.

Speaker 4 (02:20:37):
Where were you on the Seal commercial? By the way,
did it creep you out? Or did you like the
Seal commercial or did you even notice it? Dude?

Speaker 3 (02:20:43):
I didn't even notice it. Okay, I didn't even my
wife said something about it. I was like, huh, Seal coreer.
I couldn't tell you one one commercial I told you,
I meander don't halftime, we went outside. We were just
kind of talking about the game and the girls are
watching it halftime and then the commercial.

Speaker 2 (02:21:05):
Dude, I couldn't even tell you.

Speaker 3 (02:21:07):
We were talking the whole old throughout the old commercials
because the game's going on and you know, and you're
you're we're like in we're in shock right the way
the games go, was it the first half of happened?

Speaker 2 (02:21:21):
I guess the steal commercial was that the first half.

Speaker 4 (02:21:23):
I think it was in the first half. Yeah, I
think it was in the first half.

Speaker 3 (02:21:26):
I mean we were so like, oh my god, this thing,
like we were on a on a cloud, so we
were thinking, oh my god, like, you know, look at
his defense, and we're just talking about the game that
I didn't even pay attention to any commercials. I think
when your teams, your team's in it, you lose, especially

(02:21:47):
that kind of game you're losing, you you don't you
just don't pay attention to the other stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:21:53):
At least I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:21:55):
No, I think like the rest of it's a blur.
When your team's in the super Bowl, it's got it
like yeah, because you know you're actually paying attention to
the super Bowl, like.

Speaker 3 (02:22:04):
Yeah, because you're thinking, all right, like you need wait
a second, they score here, right, gud, You going, allright.

Speaker 2 (02:22:12):
Well, Eagles are dominating. It's only ten to nothing.

Speaker 3 (02:22:16):
Right before the Cooper Degene picked six, and you're going,
I don't like that. You're up ten nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:22:23):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (02:22:24):
You've dominated this game, didn't seventeen nothing like, because that
was over. That's once it hit seventeen nothing. I was like, man,
Chiefs are gonna lose this football game.

Speaker 2 (02:22:37):
This is amazing.

Speaker 4 (02:22:38):
Like that's where it really felt like, Okay, that was
that was the moment where everything was set, everything was done.

Speaker 3 (02:22:44):
And I did like the Eagles going in. I mean
you know that, Like, I thought their front, it wasn't
a Homer picking. I thought their front, would you know,
would dominate the game.

Speaker 2 (02:22:55):
I was giving out the minus ninety and a half
because I thought, but I thought it could get the
double digits at the end because they had they.

Speaker 3 (02:23:03):
Had been doing that all year long, scoring in the
third and fourth quarter. Because there's such a great second
half team. I didn't think that they would come out
and just dominate. I thought the Chiefs have a little
early success, so I'm about to lead and then the
Eagles would take over.

Speaker 2 (02:23:18):
But they just you know, dominate from jump and it was.

Speaker 3 (02:23:21):
It was amazing, all right, So let's do the We're
in the middle of talking about the NFC East. We
did the Eagles, we did Washington and then uh Dallas
and the Giants. Wow, FITZI, I mean, you're the Cowboys, man,

(02:23:43):
You're excited about Brian Scheinenheimer.

Speaker 4 (02:23:46):
No, well, here's the thing I will give. I'll give
Jerry this, right, Jerry is not great at identifying super
Bowl winning head coaches. I think that's a fair thing
to say. But Jerry owns is not, at least in
a very long time, put together a team or organization
that flat out sucks Like that's not so. I do

(02:24:10):
think there is some level of, hey, look the line
in the sand, and we continually give him all the
blame for what they're not able to accomplish. But also this,
when's the last time Jerry had, you know, a couple
of years of four or five wins, Like it just
doesn't happen. So when I when I applied that portion

(02:24:30):
of what Jerry's been able to identify, which is sort
of pretty good coaches, they get pretty good results. The
Cowboys are not suddenly going to be this just see
if suck for the next five years. In my mind,
they're just not going to be great. Like if the if,
the if the line of super Bowls, they're not going
to hit it. If the concept is that they're going
to win five games. Man, it's been a long time

(02:24:51):
since the Cowboys were perennially that you know, so, I
think I think the Cowboys end up kind of who
they've been, like a middle tier team that wins enough
games to piss everybody off and doesn't win enough games
to piss everybody off, And that becomes the conversation.

Speaker 3 (02:25:06):
Isn't there nuts? I mean, yeah, I think you're right.
The only thing worse than the Cowboys is the Giants.

Speaker 4 (02:25:15):
And I'll go back to again. Charles Robinson said on
Yahoo Sports this week that he was pretty stunned, has
been pretty stunned to hear the Giants people around the
Giants organization talking so loudly about doing work on the
veteran quarterbacks. I don't believe that the Giants are as
enamored with cam warder shoot or Sanders as a lot

(02:25:35):
of people do. So I think where it gets really
interesting is that, you know, go back to what c
Robs said that the people around the organization are pretty
convinced that day Bill understands it's going to take ten
wins to save his job in that range, and there's
not a rookie quarterback that's going to get you to that.
So the Giants are doing their work on Stafford and

(02:25:57):
Darnold and you know, they're hoping that one of those
guys I'm available to him, and I just even if
they get one of those guys, I still think that
this is a bad football team. And so it's just
it's it's pretty wild to me that, you know, the Giants.
I think the Giants are stuck in no man's land
of like, you know, what's a good year? Five wins,
six wins like that's.

Speaker 3 (02:26:16):
Well, that's the other problem with having a veteran coach
like that that you're I mean a coach that that
you got to You gotta either commit to dable beyond
and say all right, listen, yep, you get another rebuilt
like here's the deal, because you can't have your coach
worrying about.

Speaker 2 (02:26:34):
His job when you need to rebuild a fit. The
GM's the.

Speaker 3 (02:26:41):
One that I that's my boggling to me, that's the
guy that I don't understand how his job not to
able Joe Shane all right, quickly, the NFC North is
the most fascinating division. The Lions come in now again.
My only question is you lose Ben Johnson. You have this,

(02:27:05):
You're off to this epic season, right like you come
on to the scene. You almost get to the super Bowl,
not for the blowing that lead where you know you
should have took the three, but whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:27:20):
You have this amazing season, great season. You're the defense.

Speaker 3 (02:27:24):
I mean, you can't get more unlucky than Detroit because
it's defense just got gutted and that's ultimately why you
lost to Washington in the playoffs. But you should be
healthy and other than losing Ben Johnson, you should get
everybody back on defense, and their offense is still gonna

(02:27:45):
be prolific. Kids is the best running back in the
NFL with Barkley. So I mean you should feel good
about yourself.

Speaker 4 (02:27:56):
Yeah, I think if you're the Lions, you're just running
it back, try it again. Like, I don't think this
is some reason to panic for Detroit. You can't help
the number of games lost for starters to injury. You
just got to recalibrate and hope that you know, maybe
you want to look at your training staff, maybe you
want to look at your training process. I don't know,

(02:28:16):
but when it comes to your actual result on the field,
you're just you're lining it up and you're running it
back and you're hoping that you know you can stay
healthy enough to put the best version of yourself on
the field at the end of the year. And you're
also hoping that, you know, the meltdown that you saw
at the end of the year is just sort of
an aberration, right, So you know, yeah, if I'm the Lions,

(02:28:39):
I'm not changing anything. If I'm the Lions, I feel
really good going into next year. Just keep doing what
you're doing.

Speaker 2 (02:28:45):
Yeah. The only problem is if you're Detroit, you were
the super Bowl favorite.

Speaker 4 (02:28:51):
Yep, that's fair, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (02:28:53):
Then you'll and you are losing Beg Johnson, so you're
loseer off of your OC. That's a that's gonna be
a big deal too.

Speaker 2 (02:29:02):
Green Bay, I mean Green Bay looks it looks like
it's gonna be good again.

Speaker 3 (02:29:08):
I mean, they're they're a younger team, and you like
their pieces. I think Jordan Love comes back and has
a good year, and you know, I think there are
another team that's been on the ascent and they'll continue
to be there.

Speaker 4 (02:29:23):
Yeah, I totally agree that. You know, this division still
looks really solid. Like everything we said about this division.

Speaker 3 (02:29:30):
Right Minnesota, You're gonna have JJ come in to do blood, right,
you got you know, your your fail like Donald failed,
and now JJ gets to take over with those receivers.
With that defense, I mean, nothing's gonna feel good if
you're Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (02:29:48):
And then dude, then it goes back to Ben Johnson Chicago,
which is can.

Speaker 3 (02:29:54):
He rescue Caleb Williams? Like this division is a great division.
It's it's got a lot of drama to it.

Speaker 4 (02:30:02):
Yeah, I think this division still shapes up to be
the best division in football for the next year and
for the next three years probably, you know, and and look,
none of us know if Ben Johnson's gonna work out,
but certainly every indication is that it's a hire to
be excited about. I still believe that Caleb Williams is
going to end up being a superstar in this league.
So you know, you give a superstar quarterback to a

(02:30:25):
superstar rockstar head coach. This this all feels like there's
a lot of reason for Chicago to be super excited.

Speaker 2 (02:30:31):
Yeah, man, all right, we uh, we're gonna take quick
to you.

Speaker 3 (02:30:36):
We'll come back and let's let's look at the because
no brain, because he's getting married.

Speaker 2 (02:30:41):
You and I will take a look at the card. Today.
College basketball from a betting standpoint. So we look at
some college hoops and uh and get you on your
way where the fellas every Saturday right here on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (02:31:04):
It just feels you know, I it's different when there's
no football. Yeah, man, it's different. It's different.

Speaker 2 (02:31:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:31:15):
I'm sitting here watching, you know, cutups of Sam Donald
trying to get excited. That's where we are now. That's
the next three months watching cutups of quarterbacks while we
desperately try and figure out Like, so, this is my
this is my Debbie Downer prediction, my Debbie Downer prediction
from all of this, Like as much as we've talked

(02:31:36):
about the off season and what's going to happen, my
Debbie Downer prediction is that the Saints are going to realize,
for example, that there's just not a better option than
Derek Carr, so they roll it back, even though it's
not exciting. Stafford comes back to the Rams for the
same exact reason. Sam Donald gets franchised for a year
by the Vikings because they want to make sure that
they've got an insurance policy for JJ. And we're sitting

(02:31:59):
here all of a sudden in two months realizing that
cam Warden Shudeur Sanders also aren't it. And before you
know it, the nine or ten teams that all haven't
need at the quarterback position all realized that essentially there's screwed.
There's no answer to that, and you end up with
a battle for Daniel Jones and Jameis Winston to get

(02:32:20):
to start somewhere, because you gotta have somebody start. And
nobody feels good about any of it until we start
trying to talk ourselves into Jackson Dart being the answer
because people are just desperate for some sort of hope
at the quarterback position when there is none until next year.
That's my that's my very honest prediction of what I.

Speaker 2 (02:32:36):
Think is going to I can see it. I could
totally say it, man, I could say it.

Speaker 3 (02:32:42):
All right, let's take a look at real quick at
the college slate today.

Speaker 2 (02:32:47):
It's a good one.

Speaker 3 (02:32:48):
There's a lot of good games today. The crown jewel
is one v two. It is the iron ball you
said earlier, all Burn Alabama and four clock all Burn
Alabama a two and a half point favorite. I like
al I like two over one.

Speaker 2 (02:33:07):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (02:33:08):
Yeah? And also the first time ever that these two
have met and it's number one versus number two in basketball. Like,
that's it's just sort of crazy to think about. When
we've talked a little bit about this, but the investment
that the SEC made about a decade ago, deciding that
they were going to start to invest in facilities and
coaches and they no longer wanted to be a secondary

(02:33:30):
mind of thought, I should say, in the college basketball
power rankings. To think about where they've come to at
this point, man, that is just it's crazy. It's the
first time we have a number one versus number two
during the regular season since what twenty twenty one? Yeah,
this is just this is a really really special moment

(02:33:50):
for both of these teams. It's special for the SEC
to get to this situation, and I just, man, I
can't wait. This is the time that some of the
these teams are going to start to really prove where
they are. But like, there's a number one seed likely
on the line from this game in the NCAA Tournament.
That's incredible.

Speaker 2 (02:34:08):
I like Bama.

Speaker 4 (02:34:10):
Yeah, I think I like Bama too. I think I think,
I think so. But this really it feels like a
flip of the coin, right, Like, but yeah, I think
I like Bama.

Speaker 3 (02:34:21):
No, we'll go through them real quick. A and M
against Arkansas to start today. That's a noon tip. That's
a good game. A and M of course number eight
in the country. Any thoughts they're an eight and a
half point favorite.

Speaker 4 (02:34:38):
Yeah, I think actually kind of roll in this game.
And M I'm a sneaky right now, can can beat
you a lot of different ways. So I think they're
rolling this one.

Speaker 3 (02:34:46):
Tennessee twelve and a half over Vandy that's coming up
at one.

Speaker 2 (02:34:56):
They shouldn't they should. I think Vandy keeps his game close,
but to see wins.

Speaker 4 (02:35:01):
Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with that one
one sneaky game on the radar today. Michigan State USC.
Just keep an eye for all y'all that may not
have watched any Michigan State you're talking about the best
free throw shooting team in the country or one. Oh
if you're talking about one of the better shooting teams
in some ways, but you are also talking about one

(02:35:21):
of the most pitiful shooting from the outside deep teams
I've ever seen, And like, I can't see. I cannot
sit here and figure out if Michigan State's actually going
to be any good Like I truly wonder what happens
to Michigan State in the tournament if they cannot figure
out how to throw, how to score at all. Deep.
So it's just the lack of shooting for Michigan State

(02:35:42):
is a problem for me.

Speaker 2 (02:35:43):
So Michigan State's at Illinois. Sorry, I pull up the line,
six and a half over them, over Spardy. That's a
good game.

Speaker 3 (02:35:53):
You're right, I like illing, like unragged ILLINOI six and
a half point favorites a lot.

Speaker 4 (02:36:01):
Yeah, I just Michigan State's got to figure out what's
wrong shooting the ball again. Like I think there were
four for twenty five from the floor the other night
from three and like that was better than they have
been at times. Like it's just they cannot shoot their
way out of out of any sort of a deficit,
any sort of a hole. So that becomes interesting to me.

Speaker 2 (02:36:21):
What else we got? We got a couple of duke
is home against Stanford, huge favor eighteen and a half points.

Speaker 4 (02:36:29):
Coming off an upset too, so they're going to be
fired up.

Speaker 2 (02:36:31):
Yeah, you know that. After the Clemson game.

Speaker 3 (02:36:35):
Miss Mississippi State another at CC battle. That's another gut
one ole miss and Mississippi State nineteen versus twenty two.

Speaker 4 (02:36:45):
Yeah, and like, by the way, this is that upper
middle class of the SEC that's just beating up on
each other right now. So yeah, these are interesting games
for seeding purposes. The SEC just feels like everybody's likely
to make the tournament, so seeding is going to become huge. Well,
fourteen out of sixteen, I think we're in the most
recent the most recent Linardi fourteen out of sixteen teams

(02:37:09):
from the SEC ended up in that crazy. It is
wild what we're seeing right now.

Speaker 2 (02:37:15):
Not a great one in Houston at Arizona six v.
Thirteen in that.

Speaker 4 (02:37:21):
Game, that is a good game. I didn't even realize
that game was. That comes back to the thing we
were talking about earlier, Like I totally didn't realize that
game was going on today. So that, yeah, absolutely, Use.

Speaker 3 (02:37:33):
Is a slight favorite on the road and in the
Big Ten Purdue Wisconsin. That's always a good game. Purdue
five and a half seventh rank number seventh in the
country against number sixteen Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (02:37:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:37:45):
And also not for nothing, I mean Purdue is kind
of right back there, you know. It's it's it's funny
to me that if you'd asked us a year ago,
you know who is going to be okay coming off
the national championship game. Would it be Purdue they was
able to Conepe continue run it back, or would it
be Yukon? And I realized Harley loves to talk his
talk after getting that win the other night, but Yukon's unranked.

(02:38:08):
Like I just one of the more surprising things we've
seen this year is that Yukon is is finds weird
ways to lose basketball.

Speaker 2 (02:38:14):
Yeah, yeah, you got that right. And then uh, tonight
USA Canada Foundation. That's a great getting, dude. I'm actually like,
you know, to like it's date night. I'm like, oh, man,
I want to watch this game.

Speaker 4 (02:38:35):
In the background.

Speaker 2 (02:38:37):
I don't think.

Speaker 4 (02:38:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:38:39):
I don't know what I'm going to do. I had
I have to speak at the pen Baseball dinner tonight.

Speaker 5 (02:38:45):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:38:46):
And I'll be back probably around nine or a thirty.
The games at eight. It's a great game, man. I'm like,
I have the DVR anyway.

Speaker 4 (02:38:55):
Gargano with the flowers and the chocolates and.

Speaker 3 (02:38:58):
Yeah, where the fellas. We wish you a great weekend.
We love you to see you next week.

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