The Fellas with Anthony Gargano & Jason Fitz react to the Geno Smith Trade, Jokic’s Historic Night & MORE!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
And uh, before we get.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
To the Raiders, because that's gonna be the big story,
and of course, uh, Monday, the legal tampering period, free agency,
we go back to football before the tournament, so we've
got lots of good to uh. And the Raiders make
a move, a pretty dramatic one, uh, landing Gino Smith
for a third round pick. And my main man is

(00:55):
a monster Raider fan, so I can't wait. There we
had to say, and then we also got to talk
about the Jokers first thirty twenty twenty game, which was unbelievable,
the NBA's first thirty twenty twenty game last night with
the Nuggets in overtime.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
FITZI, you got a quarterback you.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Like, oh Man, so let me paint a picture for you,
my friend paying a picture for you, my brother sitting
out there. Last night, I take myself out to a
little bit of you know, little dinner. I'm eating a
little dinner, catching up with a couple of buddies, or
hanging out, you know, just eating eating my grilled chicken,
just normal Friday night. And then all of a sudden, yeah,

(01:34):
all of a sudden, I look at it, Like the
entire table just starts looking at me, and I'm like,
what do I have food on my face? And they're like,
you might want to check your phone. You know, this
was It was a glorious moment last night. Because here's
the thing. A lot of people are going to say
a lot of things about the mediocrity of Gino Smith.
We've talked about, you know, Gino's good enough to get
you to a certain level, but God only knows if

(01:55):
he can get you past that. All of these conversations
right now don't matter what's real. For the they traded
a third round pick, of which, by the way, they
have multiple, They traded one of their third round picks
to go at least give themselves flexibility. And I think
that's what everybody right now needs to understand. The most
is like, does Gino need to be the forever answer? No,

(02:17):
Watch Pete Carroll's history. Pete in the past with Seattle
has signed quarterbacks and drafted quarterbacks. What we know is
that a seventy three year old coach wasn't going to
come in and wait three or four years to find
the right quarterback. What we know is that at least
right now, it looks like this year's draft doesn't necessarily
have that guy, even though everyone wants to put the
Raiders with Shador. So now here's what happens. This is

(02:39):
why this is a beautiful thing. The Raiders get on
the clock at six. If they love Shadoor Sanders, take
Shador Sanders. Fine. If you want to sign a quarterback
and develop a quarterback Ali kirk Cousins and Michael Pennix Junior,
I think that's become a new model in the NFL.
The flip side of it is, if you don't love Shadoor,
you don't have to force anything. You don't have to

(02:59):
suddenly take a quarterback that you may not believe is
worth picking at that spot. You can address any of
your other many needs with the best player available. I
will never fault a team for giving themselves flexibility going
into the draft for a third round draft pick. And
I don't care about the money he's going to get
because it's Mark Davis's money, not my money. So man,

(03:19):
I think this is a great moment for the Raiders.
Have a competent quarterback that could come in and help
them win the football games. I feel much better about
the Raiders season today than I did twenty four hours ago.
I think this is a great move.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Wow, you know what. I love your ratchingale I do.
I love where you're headed. And obviously the Raiders were
looking for that quarterback they can trust, right, Like we
talked about how they flirted with Matt Stafford. So you
wanted competency, which is something. What was the last competent quarterback?

Speaker 4 (03:51):
I mean Carr? Carr had some good years, Carr had
some good moments.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, you know, but I was never a big fan.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
But yeah, no, you're right, you know, but at least
you got someone you could try it out and then
you're right, you could develop.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
You know.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's so interesting because when you hear all the talk
about the draft, and it's amazing people still think they're
gonna go one too, even though nobody really is in
love with these quarterbacks and the Shador stuff. I mean,
talking to guys around the league, there's not a lot

(04:29):
of fans of Shador. It's it's amazing, like he was
kind of under I think guys are like underwhelmed by
both by both quarterbacks, yet everybody thinks they're gonna go
one too.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Well. And so here's what it's interesting to me. Yesterday
when we were filming or recording one of my Yahoo
shows since I coverage Charles Robinson the Yahoo NFL Insider,
it's funny. Yesterday morning, we finished a segment and he
says to me at the end, because we talked about
Shador for about half an hour on the show, and
at the end he says to me, just to give

(05:06):
you a point of reference for where Sea Rob is,
he says to me, Hey, fits quick question, how would
you feel about Gino to the Raiders? Let's say for
like a third round draft pick? You like that? And
so that was yesterday morning. So I only say that
to everybody to say Sea Rob always seems to know
what's going on a day.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Early, right.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
So he came back from the combine in Indie, and
the first thing he said to all of us in
our production meeting was, this is going to be the
most interesting quarterback situation we've seen since Aaron Rodgers. Because
there are truly people that think that he's going to
go to for Shador and there are truly people that
think he's going to slip out of the first round altogether.

(05:44):
And that's wild to me. And you look at how
many teams need a quarterback right now. I can't imagine
that he falls farther than the middle of the first round.
But at some point where there's smoke, there's fire. For
all of this conversation, I don't as many people, you know,
this is Lion season. I get that. It just feels

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like there are too many smart people that I think
are really good at their job, that are good and
plugged in, that are telling me that should or could
fall for me to be comfortable, like I genuinely don't know.
I think it makes sense that he would go too
to Cleveland because they got to have a quarterback at
some point and they can't afford any other option because
of the Deshaun contract. But I also don't think I'll

(06:24):
be surprised if we're sitting there on draft night and
he gets picked eighteen by somebody.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, I agree. I mean I've had I had people
tell me the same thing. It was the weirdest thing
because they're also like, I don't see it. I don't
think they shouldn't happen, but they could go one too.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
And that's bizarre, right, because to your point, I hear
the same thing.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
There's like no one in love with them and either quarterback,
and yet there's still a chance that they're going to
go one too, and that people are going to go
there's so there is so much desperation out there for quarterbacks.
That's he said it. Actually a few people said it
and use the word desperate. But one guy who's always

(07:14):
inside the league, who's always knowsed his thought, he's really sharp,
and he was like, dude, He's like, there's a lot
of desperation out here.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
And that's why I keep saying over and over and
over the analogy I use. For anyone who hasn't heard this,
I'll say it again. We all have a friend that
walks into the room with his buddies and he's like,
I got engaged, and everybody's like, oh really, why well,
we've been together for a long time, and that's just
what you do. It's time that marriage never works out
because you don't get married just because you are desperate

(07:45):
to get married like that doesn't typically work out for
anybody just because you need a quarterback and you're desperate
for a quarterback. Everybody in league circles last year understood
that last year's draft was going to be far better
at the quarterback situation. And every buddy in the league
understands that next year is going to be far better
at the quarterbacks. So I think you just have to Unfortunately,

(08:06):
and then this is my message to Titans fans, Giants fans,
Raiders fans, Jets fans, everybody that's sitting here saying, well,
we need a quarterback. We all know that these teams
need a quarterback, but just because you need one doesn't
mean you can manufacture one. And Cam and Shadour, I
think Jackson, Dart, Taglam, all of these quarterbacks are talking
about if you take them in the second round and

(08:28):
they're developed for two or three years and then they
get on the field, I think these guys, several of
these guys could come into the league and have a
real shot, but nothing changes the fact that if a
guy is taking it too overall, the way they're judged
is different, the timeline is different, what we expect from
them is different forever. So you know, the funny thing
to me is that if you told me that somebody

(08:49):
took Shador with the Browns took the Shador in the
second round in a beautiful world, they were able to
get him in the second I look at that and say, wow,
that's great. Take a flyer, take.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Even if it's the middle to the end of the
first round. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Right, It's just you know, it's just not top top
ten because there's enough top ten talent out there that
shouldn't warn it. Like we're talking about. You know, what
the Raiders need to do is build an O line.
I mean, you know, I mean it's great GINO so
you have some competency there. But I keep I screamed
to people, the Eagles showed you the blueprint. They showed

(09:30):
you the blueprint in seventeen when they won the Super Bowl,
and they showed you the blueprint last year and this
whole run of relevancy. They have a great O line.
It's the Eagles and probably the Lions that have the
best offensive lines in football, and you o reason why
the Lions didn't get to the championship games because of

(09:51):
all the injuries.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
You got to build fronts.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
You just do all this talk about you know, I
you know, quarterbacks and receivers and all the skill guys.
You got to build fronts. It's just how the game
is won.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
And the hardest part about that is offensive linemen are
the toughest for most of us to evaluate, you know,
And that's just being honest for a lot a lot
of people. I have for years, I've got like a
small committee of friends that all played offensive linemen in
high level college or the NFL, and I always refer
to them as my factut committee. And when I do

(10:29):
my draft prep, I'm the first to admit that what
I do on offensive line is I send different notes
to different friends that played, and I say, tell me
what I need to know about this person, because I
simply it's so hard to be able to break down interior,
Like who knows guard play? Not many people covering the
draft no guard plays.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
So you need film. You just have to study. You
just have to study film over and over and over.
I mean, then I was in NFL films last week.
I'll be there this week with Baldy. Just go to
over all the prospects and you know, I mean, it's
it's a lot. I'm not doing it fornt of living.
We're just doing it for our draft stuff. But you know,
you're a personnel guy. This is why you have you know,

(11:11):
your Diegles have a guy, a guy named Jeff Staltlin
who's their O line coach, who is a legendary kind
of figure. Who who would who was who told Howie
Roseman to draft Jordan Mayolotta and they got him late
in the draft and he became one of the best
starting left tackles in football. And he was a rugby

(11:33):
player from Australia. And you need your guys like that
to identify real talent, you know, guys that could be
projects that you know you strike all down. That's I mean,
that's extraordinary that you get a seventh round pick, sixth
round pick and becomes your starting left tackle. But there

(11:54):
is a lot of value to be had in the
middle rounds with Oligneman.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Well, and stick with that value conversation because think for
a second about this year's draft and then think about
who gets paid what Because one thing that happens is
we constantly say, well, you got to win with a
quarterback on a rookie deal, because that's the way it goes.
And as I've said to you repeatedly, I think that's
a little bit of a fallacy, and I also think
it's way over simplification. But we are now reaching a point,

(12:23):
especially when you look at what's happened with Max Crosby's deal,
and then what's going to happen with the deals that
inevitably Hendrickson's going to get and Miles Carrett's going to get.
We're at a spot where you better win with an
edge rusher on a rookie contract because edge rushers are
starting to make what pretty good quarterbacks make, right, So
that increases the value of wanting somebody like abdual Carter

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for example, in the draft. And then you look at
how much offensive linemen are starting get, you know, tackles
in general, we know what they get paid, so all
of a sudden, it's like, well, you better hit on
an offensive lineman. I think the point here is that
when you have a top ten pick, instead of sitting
here and obsessing over well, we need a quarterback. Need
a quarterback, We need a quarterback. Okay, you also need
to get better at every positions with as much value

(13:06):
as you possibly can. So now, going back even to
the Geno trade, because all they gave up was one
of their third round picks, there's still in a situation
where if they choose to move up for somebody, they can.
If they want to move down, they can, And if
they sit where they are, they will likely be in
position to get one of if not the best offensive
lineman or one of if like the best defensive tackle

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may still be on the line, the best wide receiver
is still going to be there for you. You get flexibility,
you know, And I just think that's such a important part.
Like I don't want my favorite team's GM, no matter
what team I'm rooting for, I don't want my favorite
teams GM to be sitting in their war room in
April with a clear cup board that tells them, for example,

(13:48):
that Brock Bauers is the best player, and then say, yeah,
but we really need a quarterback, so forget the board.
Let's just go get the quarterback we need. I don't
think you successfully build that way. So to your point,
knowing that a team like the Raiders needs help on
particular the offensive line. You're in a much better spot
to address that than you were twenty four hours ago
because now you don't have to overreach for a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I agree, I agree, and to you and to your point,
you could wait. Listen, they're in a ridiculously tough division, right, Yeah,
you got the Chiefs, you got the Chargers who are
going to be You saw it last year with Harball,
how much better they were, right you looked at Herbert

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how much better he looked last year.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
As soon as they give him.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Some help and get him another wide out and you know,
you look at him, They're going to be really good
Denver with bod Knicks, but bow Nicks would be the
number one pick in the draft this year. And with
Peyton they look great. So you're you're in that Nancy division.
But to your point, you have you'll have competent play

(14:59):
and and that's you've got to be able to stay
in games like you just can't. You just can't go
into it. Last year for the most part, I mean,
you talked about it every week. You're happy if they
weren't blown out.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, Well, and this isn't even just a Geno Smith proposition.
By the way, this is a let's just let's just
say this this way, you got a shot at Shadoor
Sanders for example, or trading up for camboard, or you
cannot lose any future equity in the draft, so you
still can be able to draft over the next couple
of years. You signed Geno and at six you can

(15:37):
get let's say, let's say they want Ashton Genty. So
now all of a sudden, this isn't just Shaeduur versus
Geno or whatever quarterbacks available. This is Shadoor versus Geno
and Ashton Genty. That's a much different conversation, you know.
So I think looking at the offense as a whole
and looking at just being competent. One thing that Pete
Carroll has said since he got the job is that
you have to surround the quarterback to make to help

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them to make your team. And I think this gives
him the flexibility to do that. You're so right that
when you are in the AFC West, when you're in
the AFC in general, if you genuinely are asking yourself
to draft a quarterback that can compete, you're asking yourself
can I draft a Hall of Fame quarterback because right
now the mount Rushmore in the AFC are a bunch
of future Hall of famers. So you know it. To me,

(16:23):
you have a much better chance of doing that if
you're aggressive in a year that you just absolutely love
a guy like Sean Payton loved Bonis. Okay, they went
up and they got Bnicks. I respect the hell out
of if you are. If you love Josh Allen, you
give you move mountains to get him. I have no
problem with that. If you sort of like Shador, you
don't move mountains, you don't even draft him. You don't

(16:44):
put yourself in that situation. You give yourself other options.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
All right, we got lots to get to. Let's go
over a lot of stuff heading into Monday, since could
be a big NFL show today, we'll look at we'll
start looking at the draft. We're gonna go through team
by team today, all right, and kind of look at
potential free agents where they're at, who they're gonna lose,
what they might add. I love this stuff. This is

(17:12):
this fun stuff. We've got college so we got the
tournament around the corner. Conference tournaments are underway, dude, thirty
twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Oh my god, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I mean it was funny. I'm a nerd, right, a
box score nerd. I love box scores, so especially at
my I'm watching games like I watch games especially, you know,
like before our show last night was up late watch,
I was watching a lot of different basketball and I'm
watching the Nuggets. I'm looking and I'm looking at this score.

(17:49):
I'm looking at it, at the what do you call it?
The box score, and I'm going, my god, he's got
look at that the eighteen rebounds. Like I was watching Walker,
I was watching I'm looking at Walker. Kessler have like
twenty boards in the first half. He fits for twenty three.

(18:10):
He had twenty one rebounds, twenty two assists, thirty one points,
three steals. I mean, are you kidding me? That's that's
an like that's filling a box score. My god. The joker,
he's such a great player, man, he really is. Forget

(18:30):
about just the the eye popping numbers. When you just
watch him, He's every bit of what Larry Bird was
in yesterday's game. Just the way he sees the floor.
He's sick amazing all right, Well that's to do where

(18:50):
the fellas missed last week? Buddy, Buddy, there he is
Jason fitza Anthony Gargatta right here.

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Speaker 3 (19:38):
Oh it's always fun.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Uh all right, brother, let's go through because you know,
we're obsessed with quarterbacks. So let's look at some of
the team's team by team and where they sit and
would you be happy with their quarterback situation?

Speaker 3 (19:56):
All right?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Because this is this is an interesting exercise because it's
one of a few halves, a lot of all right,
like we're good, and a lot of like we're desperate.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
It's so interesting.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
That's that's that's also interesting to me too, because I think,
and we'll see this if we go through this process.
Having been a fan of a team that just has,
you know, struggled to find a great quarterback, I have
learned to at least appreciate a quarterback that can keep
you competitive, I will say that. So it's interesting because I,

(20:38):
just like everybody else, know that when you're competing against
Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Like, if
you don't have one of those guys, it's gonna be
really hard to win a super Bowl. That's the way
it's gonna be hard to get through the AFC. But
at the same time, man, there's a hopelessness to winning
three games, you know. So it's it's interesting to see
where we fall on this because sometimes you can have

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a pretty good quarterback depending on where your team is.
Maybe you need that to help you right now, or
maybe you're frustrated with that because you want to take
the next step. It's funny how the team will sort
of dictate some of that.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Let me ask you a question. Does the Jalen Hurts
effect give hope? Look, I mean, you know, obviously hurts
his my quarterback, and he was terrific as playing his
role right, which is, you know, he needed to be

(21:31):
a point guard. He needed to play like Magic Johnson
at which means get the ball out right. He's great
with his legs, see it go down the field. I
had the chance to sit down with Steve Spagnolo this week,
so I sat down with Spags to kind of go
over the Super Bowl play by play and which I.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Want to air on Monday.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
And I mean, it's fascinating because they accomplish what they
wanted to accomplish in stopping Saquon. I mean, twenty five
carries fifty seven yards. He was like, dude, you tell
me twenty five carries fifty seven yards. Will take it
every day of a week, right like that? That was
our That was our goal, which was to stop Barkley

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and stop the run game. He said, because Jalen made
just killer place and he's done that to us. He
did it in the last Super Bowl, the one they won.
He said, he just made a couple of those big plays.

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There was a third down crosser to AJ Brown, there
was an AJ Brown down the field. There was a
Johan Dotson down the field throw. There was a couple
runs that he made. He made those big plays on
third down. That was because that was the difference. When
you look at it, the fact is Eagles defense could
control the game right and kids that he could move it.

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The Chiefs defense, it's actually played well in the gate
when you go through the tape. I've watched it several
times now, and the Chiefs defense played well. But Jalen
man a handful of plays to tip it and then
allow their defense to take over.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
And so in this moment, it feels like, even though
I was more of a Transformers guy, it feels like
the Eagles offense is a little bit like Voltron back
in the eighties. You know, the robot are.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, yeah, all of the yeah, they all came together.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
So the chest of the Voltron robot is obviously the
offensive line, because that's like the beef of the entire thing.
But when you look at what made and makes the
Eagles so tough to defend for the next several years,
is I believe they've got a lot of greatness and
a very good quarterback. Like I don't think that, I

(23:48):
think it's fair to say that in my mind, at least,
I don't think of Jalen Hurts the same way I
think of you know, Patrick Mahomes. Usually I don't like
I think. I think Patrick Mahomes is being a life saver.
But I think Jalen Hurts is in the right system
situation for him that really brings out the best in
who he is. And they are built as a team

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to be able to save one another when something goes wrong,
so to me, where the Chiefs are more transformers, like
it's up to it's up at this point, it's up
to Patrick Mahomes to be you know, optimist prime and
take care of everything. The Eagles are more vultron with
a bunch of different things that come together. The harder
one to build, yes, thank you, I don't know the

(24:32):
eighties child of me coming out. The harder one to
build is the Eagles. And this is one thing I
talked to my draft buddies about all the time. Part
of the reason we're obsessed with the quarterback is you
can hit on Jayden Daniels and then all of a
sudden your team gets drastically better and now man like
the world has changed, and that's what everybody wants is fixed,
quick fix. It's tougher to hit on draft pick after
draft pick after draft pick, and that's part of what

(24:52):
the Eagles have done really well. Part of the reason
we even see a team like the Rams a little
differently is the way that they've drafted defensively when they've
had draft picks.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
You know.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
So, I think the Eagles deserve so much credit for
doing it the right way, piece by piece, and for
most teams that are trying to compete this year, I
think you have to do it piece by piece, because
again I don't I don't think there's a Jayden Daniels
in this year's draft. I don't think there's a CJ.
Stroft in this year's draft, and you know, so, to me,
the Eagles analogy becomes a great one if you're if

(25:24):
you're a team trying to figure out how to compete,
then at least look around and say, Okay, how do
we make the most out of this offensive line? Do
we have some weapons on the offense that are really
tough to handle?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
You know?

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Then can we get a pretty good quarterback and really
bring out the best of them. I think that that's
a smarter way to try and build. It just takes
really good front office work, long time, and I'm not
sure most teams have that, So you know, I think
the Eagles are hope. I'm not sure most teams GM
is as competent as Howie Roseman. We should all be
hoping that we do.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
We all. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
You know the other thing too, when we talk about quarterbacks,
like and you see at the combine, I can't wait
to to watch him throw. And I love that position,
all right, I love it. It's my favorite position. I
love whatever it is. I love pitching, and I love
quarterback plays. My favorite thing in sports. I like to hear,

(26:17):
to close my eyes and hear the football. It's like
when you have a great arm and you hear it.
It's like bacon sizzling on a stove, Like you hear it,
and I love it. But that's not what quarterback play
is now. Back in the day, you need it a

(26:42):
great arm to succeed. I mean, I can get Montana,
but Montana didn't have to act like he had a
noodle arm.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
I mean he could still. He was acturate as all
get out, and he can still throw it.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Now you need so many elements, like you gotta process
it really really fast. You gotta be able to move
like those are more important than your arm talent. Like
you look at Jaydon Daniels and he's ridiculous. He's got

(27:13):
a beautiful arm, great arm, makes every throw, he's accurate,
he's got sizzle to it right. But what makes him
so ridiculously good is he he can move. He knows
exactly where everything is, he sees the field, and he
processes ultra fast.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
That's really what makes you great as a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Now, I think to that end, something that really changed
the way I see quarterback play was the first time
I was lucky enough to stand on the field during
a game. And you know, at the time, I had
a friend with the Raiders that helped me get a
field pass for the Raiders Titans game in Nashville, and
they put a photographer's a jacket on me so I
could just stand on the field and watch the game,
which was an incredible experience, right, But standing in the

(28:04):
end zone where you can see what the quarterback is seeing,
and then understanding how quick it all feels. I think
one thing that most of us don't realize. Even if
you played football, you forget it over the years. You
forget how hard it is to gain a yard when
you've got twenty two bodies up against each other, and
how small a window five yards is, for example, so

(28:26):
you forget that, and then realizing the anticipation of throw
standing on the field watching at the time Derek Carr
was throwing the ball for the Raiders and just seeing
that when he threw the football there's nobody anywhere near it.
But then the speed of the game and the speed
of the decision making from the field level is so
it's overwhelming a little bit. So to your point the processing,

(28:49):
if you think about what quarterbacks talk about all the time,
and what we have to remember is that from the
time they break the huddle, they have a what ten
seconds to look around, figure out what defense they're in,
and then try and figure out out from some of
the pre snap motion what the defense is going to do.
And then they snap the ball and they have to
immediately figure out a if they were right in what
they diagnosed, and b where they're going with the football.

(29:11):
And then we also want them to go through three
reads when they go in that process. So exactly, it's
just when you actually list out everything we ask a
quarterback to do. I think that's why football intelligence is important,
and that's why work ethic is important to so many
other people because like in some positions in football, you
can just memorize the playbook, can go out and run.

(29:32):
At the quarterback position, you are truly like you're playing chess. Well,
one of the keys to playing chess is thinking three
or four moves ahead, right, like you're playing chess for
the entire game, and every single new snap is a
new game of chess. Like that's just that's a lot
for anybody to try.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
By God, the mental acuity it takes, it's unbelievable. The
stress of that position. Now, it's more stressed than anything
anything else, not even close to the sports. It's more
mental stress. And then we complain about about windows. Ah, well,
you know what you gotta throw with tight windows? You know,

(30:12):
freaking hard it is to a identify it right, if
there's no rush, if there's no pressure, how difficult it
is to put it in a tight window. Now add
pressure to it. It's ridiculous. Man. That's why I love
these kids, because the kids today, this crop of athletes

(30:38):
where we sit, are the most dedicated and most intelligent
at the top level of any athlete we've ever seen
in each sport. Because you're trained they're trained individually. I
talk about it all the time. Fits you with you,
but they're trained individually from you know, eighth grade through

(31:00):
high school. It's college and that's all they do. I
tell you all the time about a couple of standback
quarterbacks in my area and what their life is. Their
life is film study. You're a sophomore in high school,
it's March. You're watching film two hours a day, and
you're throwing every day.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
I think what's wild about that is it's a different language.
And so that I say all the time. From a
music background, I tell people a lot when they have
kids and they ask me, you know, when should I
start am on piano or whatever you're gonna ask your
kid to play. My answer to that is as early
as humanly possible, because as you get older, you start
to realize that you're dominant with one hand or the other.

(31:41):
So playing the piano or the violin, particularly ambidextras instruments,
so you have to be able to use both hands.
If you start playing them when you're ten, you already
understand that while I'm right handed and my left hand sucks.
So then asking people to do two different things with
their hands at the same time gets tougher and tougher.
You also have to grow up sort of speaking the
language of written music, right Like, so if I'm learning

(32:04):
a classical music piece, part of the reason that when
I was, you know, eight years old, I was practicing
eight hours a day was because you're memorizing thousands of
notes over and over and over again, and they have
to be done perfectly and meticulously. And that's something that
you know, I did my whole life. So, you know,
a gift that I have at this point, that I've
earned is that you know when when somebody, if you

(32:26):
play something for me, I can usually pick up any instrument,
particularly violent, and play a pack for you, Like I
have that recognition language. It seems really impressive to people
that have never seen it before, but I've done it
my whole life. I only say that because it's very
reminiscent of what's happened for sports now. Because it used

(32:47):
to be as you got older, you started to play sports,
and then maybe in high school you started to like football,
and then you really liked it and you were putting
in the effort, and you got to go to college
and that's when you really hunger down. Now, to your point,
you've got six and seven creators out there that are
just they're eating, breathing, sleeping every ounce of film, study
and play breakdown, and to your point, they're speaking another language,

(33:10):
Like it's easier to learn Spanish if you start in
elementary school then if you start when you're forty, right.
So I think we do need to look at it
and say, man, the game is sped up and the
processing speed of these athletes is sped up in a
way that is just it's pretty surreal. Like the I
would argue that the intelligence being shown by a lot

(33:30):
of these college quarterbacks, we only see coaches calling in
a play, so we're like, oh, he's not doing anything.
We're forgetting how much they're still actually doing it. And
just the fact that they can speak the language that's
right protections.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
To me, one of the luckiest things I've ever gotten
to do is is to sit down and break down
film with guys that played, because they say twenty things
you'd never even thought of from the break of the
huddle and you're like, okay, you saw that all that
from that guy being lined up two yards further to
the left, Yes, that indicates these things and it's like
the instant recognition that is impressive.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, and you're you're right, it's music, it's reading that language.
I'm with you all right, Fellas hanging right here Fox
Sports Radio. Fellas from thetaire raq dot com studios. Hey, uh,
I got to share this with you. So Thursday night

(34:27):
we played for the championship oh sweet yeah, of our
Catholic league basketball.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Right. So, in case people don't know, I.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Bend Fitsy's ear each week about youth sports because I
have two sons that play, and I'm really involved.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
I coach every sport you.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Know, football, basketball, baseball, and so with basketball seasons and
we I coached the local ur grade school, Saint Margaret's
and so so we made it to the final and
we played a team Christ King, right, and they're mighty right.
They're undefeated going in the first game they beat us

(35:07):
bike twenty five. The second game it was like eight
and a halftime, and then they blew us out in
the second half.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
We lost by twenty three.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
So you know, we have a great win in our
semi final and it gets a really good team and
so you know, we're on practicing and I think I
threw two extra practices in one of the kids right
coupless those kids. They put me and Mike the guy
coach with Kevin who played baseball at Duke and got drafted.

(35:42):
Really good baseball play, really good basketball guy. The two
of us were sitting there and you know, we're really
cool for you about it. I ben Fitzy's year every week,
so you know, I put in one free one in.
We tweak it where like the kids are practicing, don't
you know we beat them Thursday night.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Oh that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
It was actually the kids to see their joy on
their I'm gonna send you the video to see the
joy on their face.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
It was.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
It was awesome. They were freaking out and it was, uh,
it was. It was a lot of fun. It was.
It was the what youth sports supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
And the coach, uh for the other team, for chrisy
kick with like what a gentleman, like just a beautiful
They're a terrific team. His son is a really good
ball player and it's a great shooter. So I had
my I had Masaa, my son at the top of
the one three one, and I'm.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Like, dude, whatever you do.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
The kid's names will do not leave, will open all right,
Like if you have to not slide the other side,
just you could stay up top. And but you got
and you can hedge, but you got to make sure
you get your you can recover quick enough, get a
hand in his face. And so like we played inspets
to attach it to home and the coach is such

(37:06):
a gentleman afterwards, like you know, if we had to lose,
it was great to lose to your kids, and you
know it.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Was it was a cool thing. So I'm gonna I
gave them.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
I said, listen, if you guys win, I'm going to
tell get all your parents to let you all from
school next week. You're going to come in on my
show and then I'm going to go get you guys pizza.
So we're going to do that Thursday.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
That's amazing. And look the also, especially at the age
that they're all at right now, it's kind of a
cool learning lesson for both sides. Like you never want
a team to lose if you're if you're proud of it,
but you know, kicking the snot out of a team
a couple of times and then getting beat is a
valuable you know, every game is a new games sort

(37:50):
of learning experience. It's one there's a moment there where
your guys learn, hey, the past results do not equal
you know, future results sort of thing. And past performance,
you know, the past performance does not mean future whatever.
Those stockbrokers performers, and then you know, for it's the
same for the team that felt like they probably walked
on the court thinking, man, we've already kicked them out twice.

(38:12):
We're gonna be just fine. So you have a cool
learning opportunity for everybody you know in that process that's
at that age. Particularly.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, it was, uh, you're right, you're right. It's a
great learning, great learning experience and uh and on both sides.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
But it was.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
It was fun, man, it was.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
It was.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
It was adorable. Right, it's what it's really what sports
at twelve years old is supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Right.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I told them, listen, it's gonna sound. It's gonna sound
you know, uh silly. But you guys, remember this, this
will bind you.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
You guys.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Remember this is a fun experience in your life that
nobody could take away from you. Like, you guys worked
really hard and you won and you won the championship.
That's a big deal. So you guys should be proud
of your else.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
You know.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Yeah, that's congratulations, brother, that's a big deal for everybody.
Congratulations for you. Does everybody get a trophy? Do you
get a trophy? How does that work?

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Well, all the kids get trophies and then we get
the big trophy that goes into school's show and display case,
which is great. So it was Sister Michelle, who's our principal,
was ecstatic. Where the Fellas Big hour Back to football next.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
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Uh, we're two weeks from last Thursday from the first
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We said, we talked about Hurts and the Eagles as

(40:42):
a potential model for you know, like everybody wants, you know,
all the.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Burrows and Mahomes and Allen.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Well, you know, we talked about Hurts and how great
of a season he had, what he does. So let's
begin with the Super Bowl champs in Philadelphia. So when
you look at them, you know that they're gonna lose.
It's about uh, it's about keeping your own how he
told me, maintenance. I told him last week and they

(41:15):
could still do something, but right now, it's about maintenance.
They signed Barkley to a big deal, which helps make
them a destination. You know, you go in and it
was a reward as much as anything else. Plus he
gives him some cat relief for this year. And then
they get Zach Bond in the fault, which was really smart.

(41:36):
He was a linchpin to their defense. He did so
much in Fanzio's defense and it was a great fit. Now,
the only question they're gonna lose Josh Sweat, They're gonna
they're gonna lose Milton Williams. The only question is do
they keep Mackai Beckton a right guard or does beck
didn get any big offer. I know he wants to stay,

(41:57):
but I mean, who knows if we'll get another He
could go a big offer to go out and kick
out and play tackle.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
The only thing I'd say with mackay and I think
we need to factor some of this in with everybody else,
Like with the Sam Darnel conversation, Man McKay has been
a bust and not He's obviously not, but he's been
perceived as a bust. I think sometimes when players finally
find a spot where man it makes sense and it
comes together and you're valued. The number of guys that

(42:25):
I talk to that even currently play that will tell
you that getting into a situation where you feel like
you actually valued and your talents are appreciated and you're
well taken care of, Like I don't know, you can
put a price that guy. I think McKay is going
to be really interesting because his career has had so
many downs. To have the up that he had is
pretty significant. So, you know, I think it's it's harder

(42:47):
than some people think to pry guys like that away
from a good situation.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
You're right, and think about Bawn. I just discuss Bawn, right,
He's a that's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
He flew.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
He was, you know, a kind of a journeyman type,
come from the New Orleans and you go to free agency.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
And look, he became a star. He was great at
a super Bowl. By god, what a great story.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Well, and there is value. This is something that you know,
Max Crosby has said to me multiple times when we've talked,
like part of the reason that he will always feel
a loyalty to the Raiders isn't just because you know
he likes being a Raider. They took a shot on him.
And I think what we have to remember when things
go wrong in the league for a lot of guys,

(43:36):
like we look at guys and we always say, well,
that guy sucks, and it's never that simple. I mean,
if you got to the NFL, it's never as simple
as that guy sucks. So you know, there is some
value to Wow, this coaching staff not only took a
chance on me, they not only paid me something to
let me keep playing the game that I know I'm
great at, but they also knew how to get the
best out of me. And when you've seen a coaching
staff not do that, I just I just think there's

(43:58):
a lot of value if you're if you're a guy
like McKay and you're looking around, you're like, well, anyway
you want to look at it, I'm gonna get mine.
So now the question is is it comparable. That's why
I think the Sam Donald conversation is going to be
wildly interesting in a few days, because you know, unless
he's going somewhere where he really trust the coaching staff
to be able to get the best out of him, man,
they're gonna have to really come in and overpay to

(44:20):
get him to walk out of Minnesota. I believe.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yeah, I'm curious to see you're you're spot on, man,
And it's funny. I heard one of our promos with
Dan Patrick and he was so spot on. It was
the span of eight days that completely cost him millions
of dollars. Like, you still want to get you know,
a good contract, but those eight days he got exposed.

(44:47):
He got exposed against the Lions in the last game
of the season, and he got exposed that Monday night
in Arizona against the ReBs.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
And when you're talking about Sam Donald, I know we
haven't even gotten to Sam yet. But when you talk
about Sam, I think he's part of a lot of
these conversations. He's made sixty five million dollars according to
the World Wide Web in his career, so he's got,
you know, up yours money and then he can he
can keep it in forever. He has been perceived as
a bust and now he's been perceived as a very

(45:18):
good quarterback. For anyone that says, why would he go
back to Minnesota where he's gonna have to compete with JJ,
the only thing I'd say is that, you know, there
are a lot of variables with the Vikings. Right now,
JJ lost weight in the rehab portion of his injury.
They're having a struggle to get him to put it
back on. Like he didn't play last year. So even
though he got the mental reps, he didn't get the
real reps. There are a lot of ways that you

(45:39):
can look at it. If you're Sam and say, hey, man,
I got a real chance at continuing to start here.
So then it's like, well, would you rather battle for
that in Minnesota or would you rather go to just
a team right now that is devoid and talent all
over the place, like let's say the Giants. Where if
you fail, if because your offensive line sucks, whatever the
reason is, if the pieces around you make next year

(46:00):
to be a big step back, that's it. You're probably done,
you know. And so yeah, you might get a little
bit more money, but is it worth the fact that
it will change your entire career trajectory if it doesn't
go right and you're trusting a team that doesn't have
a ton of talent. I think these are real variables
that players consider when they're looking around. For some guys,
it's just as simple as who pays me the most.

(46:21):
I think there's more nuanced to guys that have been
perceived as busts, and now we're being perceived as guys
that are worth paying.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah, and you're you're dead right, dead right, all right?
Just to finish the Eagles, so you kind of see
where they're at. They're gonna there have a lot of
guys down the road, right they're you know Howie Roseman's
a master at the cap, but they do. They have
a lot of guys down the road that they're gonna
take care of. Jalen Carter's gonna become the highest paid

(46:50):
defensive tackle linemen in football. There's a lot of heat
about Miles Garrett and could you wind up and fill
it out. I'll never say anything, never with him when
it comes to Howie and big, big name hunting.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
But I I just don't say it. I just don't
think it.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
I don't think he's got enough to give him that
to give him that contract. And there's a lot of
there's a lot of veteran guys out there that might
want to go ring chase like that, all of a
sudden ring chasing in Philadelphia, they were a destination.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Yeah, And this is I would just I would beg
most when you have a GM as competent as how
he is, just stop worrying about what's going to happen
in three years because I've I've read plenty of this
offseason where it feels like people are ringing in the hands. Well,
they're going to have salary type issues. It's like I
again as a fan of a team that sucks. I
remember when things suddenly turned around for Derek Carr and

(47:50):
Khalil Mack and even Gabe Jackson, the offensive linoment at
the time, all in the same draft, and Raiders fans
spent years saying, oh my god. Once once all three
of them looked like they were going to be long
term starters, was like, wow, how are we ever going
to keep them? N Mari under contract at the same time,
and you got so worried about that you didn't even
appreciate the season that that was the one really good
season with all of those guys. So I just like,

(48:12):
stop bringing your hand. Yeah Howie, Like trust how he's
going to figure out the money portion of it? Also,
I do. There was something that was said yesterday on
ESPN that I thought was really smart by Mike Tannenbaum,
who I love the human being. I've worked with michae
a lot, and he was talking about the fact that
when you were in your window, that's when you use
your credit cards. Like when you are suddenly in a

(48:33):
we can win the super Bowl right now moment, worry
about the debt later. Just keep trying to win super Bowls.
And you know, I think there's a little bit of
that and don't do that when you're when you're the
Browns right now, Like, don't the Browns are stuck because,
like to keep on the credit card analogy, the Browns
are stuck because they're now robbing from Peter to pay Paul.

(48:55):
They're using credit card advances on one to get to
fund the other. Like they're in that like I'm broke
situation and that's hard to fix. If you're the Eagles, man, like,
you'll figure it out, push some money down the line.
And if you suck in five years for a couple
of years, that's okay because you could win a couple
of Super Bowls right now and that is always worth
the future debt to me.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, great point, great point.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Uh, Washington, So what'd you think about debo to go
with scary Terry for Jaden?

Speaker 4 (49:31):
I loved, I mean, I love that move. And I
think when you combine what Deebo does with what Terry
McLaurin does, it's just man, Washington's in a really good
situation because they've given themselves even more flexibility. And you know,
one of my pillars that I live on is the
minute you identify that you have your quarterback, especially on

(49:52):
the rookie deal situation, then you have a responsibility to
surround them with everything you possibly can to make sure
that that guy develops and to make sure you've got
your guy before you got to pay him. It's less
about trying like everybody else worries about got to win
on the quarterback salary, and I understand that. Again, I
disagree with part of the philosophy, but the more important
part of it is Jaden looks great, so now get

(50:14):
him to keep growing because I think year two in
year three are such huge moments for fifteen year careers
a quarterback that to me, going out and getting him debo,
this was a no brainer. It was an absolute no
brainer to me, and it gives them draft flexibility to
continue to grow however they want to. In the draft.
They know this isn't a great wide receiver draft by

(50:34):
most estimations. There's maybe a couple of guys that go
in the first round. So you know, I love this
move for Washington, absolutely every ounce of it.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
I'll tell you it's a great tight end draft.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
Yes it is, Yes it is.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Zach Ertz Is thirty five had a great year for
him but they could use a weapon down the field
tight end.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Yeah, and look, I mean depending on how aggressive they
want to get. Tyler Warren, the kid out of Penn State,
seems to be everybody's favorite tight end reasonably so, like
he has incredible potential. And then I'm looking at Washington,
you know, thinking they're picking twenty nine. I don't think
Tyler Warren's going to fall that far.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
But now it's deep. It's it is deep. It is deep.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
And look out for Washington too. They could get kind
of depending on what happens they're picking at twenty nine
to get in the first round. You got to look
at it. If there is a free fall of Schadeur. Again,
we don't know, but if there's a free fall for Shadur,
these teams picking at the end of the first round,
once you get to Baltimore, Baltimore, Detroit, Washington, Buffalo, Kansas City,

(51:39):
and Philadelphia, none of those teams need a quarterback, so
all of them become how bad do you want him?
Do you want to trade up for? You know? So yeah,
I think even Jackson Dark could get some of that
that love too. So they have so much flexibility that
comes from that move at I love where Washington's position.
I'm really happy for Washington fans.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Do they get which lineman are they going to get?
Do they get Mac?

Speaker 6 (52:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (52:03):
I mean I'd still go after Khalil, wouldn't you? Yeah?
I mean, And if you're if you're Mac, like, my god,
you've spent so much of your career just on the
fringe going to a team where man like that, because
that's obviously getting after the quarterback is one of the
big things Washington has to address. And you want to
talk about mercenary, Like, if I'm Khalil Mack, I want

(52:24):
to be a mercenary. So I think it's interesting Mac,
because everybody wants to put Miles Garrett on the Eagles,
as you already mentioned. I just Khalil Mack has already
made more money than he knows what to do with.
Is he interested enough in a ring that he decides
he wants to be a guy that comes into mercenaries
it at a place like Philly for a year.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
You know, it's funny because he's that guy. You know,
I could see Garrett Winn Washington. Yeah, you know, I
could see that completely. And then you know, and it's
funny because you got Joey Bose out there too. Who
is he going to get a big deal? And who
may who's made a ton of money, who may just

(53:02):
want to ring Chase. So he's an interesting guy too.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Yeah, I just got to figure out how to stay healthy.
Not that he can figure that out. We all know
that it's not that simple. I shouldn't say that that way.
But if he can't be on the field, you know,
the best ability is availability. As always saying like that
that's real for Joey, it is.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
But like you know, if if if I'm Howie and
I get it, and I get it a favorable deal,
I get a bargain with Joey, Yeah, I take the risk.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
I mean I would.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Cowboys, Man, they're interesting because you you know you're gonna
bring back. You got that coming back, you got receipt,
you know you're gonna do the whole thing again. Basically,
they're a they're a conundrum because the core didn't win

(54:00):
and now you're off of you know, now you're like
three years late on it, and they're.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Stuck in that weird position of you're so invested, you know,
pot committed is right, they're so invested. I don't think
that there's an easy workaround for any of this. I
honestly think the Cowboys are sort of stuck and they
got to figure out whether they want to rip this
thing that they're in a house that's not quite worth demolishing,

(54:29):
but it's definitely not worth saving. And so I don't
know what you're do in that situation. Like, I still
believe dak is a very good quarterback, and I believe
they have obviously they have one of the best wide receivers.
Everybody wants to put Davante there this offseason, and you
know that's interesting. At least they got to get They
got to just get They got to get more. They
got to get more all the way across the board.

(54:51):
But how do you get more when you know you're
in a situation where now you're rewarding all these contracts
and you're paying people late. And it's just I think today,
for all of the yelling and screaming about past contracts
of the Cowboys, it gets felt today these are the
moments where it's like, Man, if they had done some
of these deals earlier, they wouldn't be in this weird
purgatory that they're stuck in. So you know, this is

(55:12):
the mess that Jerry made, and I don't think there's
an easy way to clean it. I still think the
Cowboys are more likely than not to be a good
football team. They're just not gonna be a great football team.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Now, they do have some money to spend, so you know.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
You're gonna you're going to probably go to your U
continue year and now through the house. You're gonna come
in and you know you're you're gonna go, I key
your kitchen right like you're gonna go. You're gonna try
to do whatever you can to keep the house, you know,
to spruce it up. You have so many holes that

(55:49):
you need to try to fix all of them and
hope it turns out beautiful.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
But how many times in that situation has somebody used
the phrase, oh man, I know it leads a lot
of work, but the bones are good, and like, okay,
the bone, the bones can be good, the structure can
be good, all of these things. I think the weird
part about the Cowboys. I'll go back to what you
where you started our conversation about football an hour ago.
The bones of a team are the offensive and defensive line. Yeah,

(56:16):
so what do you do when you're in this house
and it's like the foundation's cracked and we might have
to pick the whole house up and figure out how
to put in a new foundation under it. But boy,
the pretty stuff all looks good. You know, the windows
are nice. You know, the kitchen's real nice. You know,
it's like, okay, but the house might fall into the
sinkhole at any point. But boy, the kitchen is fancy,

(56:37):
and like, I feel like that's the cowboys. They've got
fancy pieces. But man, do any of us really trust
the foundation?

Speaker 5 (56:43):
No?

Speaker 3 (56:45):
No, nah, no, you're right. And then I'll bring us
to the Giants.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
The first that is test sperate for a quarterback. Right now,
it's just Tommy Cutlets on the roster as your quarterback.
The Giants who have been linked to everyone, Stafford Gino,
They're linked to every quarterback.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
They are quarterback desperate.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
Yeah. And by the way, now, because they haven't properly
addressed it for a long time, they need to address it.
And that's okay. The hard part about it is I
don't think that they It's back to are you going
to draft desperate or are you going to draft the
player that you actually need? Depending on what happens, there
because I mean I could see Gino on the board,
or Gino, I could see Chadur on the board. Yeah,
you know, are you gonna draft desperate on Shador? You know?

(57:37):
Or are you going to oversign somebody? And the hardest
part of all of this is they have a GM
and a coach that need to win. Now. How do
you win now with a developmental quarterback at you don't?
So then how do you win now? If you enter
the free agency sweepstakes? And then you got to look
at it and say, there are very limited options that
make you drastically better now. So you know, do I

(57:58):
expect the Giants to overpay veteran quarterback? Yeah, but they
have no choice. Do I think that's gonna make them
better than the third best team in their own division? No,
which is why I think it would have been stupid
for Stafford to go there in the first place.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Yes, And to me, they're clearly fourth, clearly.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
So so if I'm the Giants, why am I gonna
go overpay for Sam Darnold? Like it's a shame because
I know you have a star at the receiver, right, Like,
I mean, the kid is the kids just the player
and you made some strides on bove lines, but you're

(58:37):
not finished yet. And that's why you're You're still a
year away from from, you know, any kind of to me,
being competitive in your division. So you've got to spend
this year not spent to your point, not using the
credit card.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
And the hardest part about that is you've got a
coach in a GM that aren't gonna want to take
the time. I mean, because if they win three games
this year, if they win five games this year, are
they are they keeping their job? So it's just it's
clearly the fourth best roster. It's like this to me
feels as obvious a year ago. Right now I was

(59:16):
sitting here saying, oh my god, how do you draft
Kayleb Williams and keep Matt Eberflus when it just means
you're going to be firing eb Reflus and Kayleb Williams
is gonna have a new coach in year two, which
is exactly what happened. Like you can see it coming
from a mile away. I just don't see a scenario
where the Giants aren't the fourth best team in the
division with a new head coach and a new GM
in a year and to me, if you're gonna go
there anyway, just accelerate the whole thing. Get there. If

(59:38):
you're gonna get there, get there now.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
You're so spot on, man.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
This is what I never understand from owners. You got
these brilliant guys that you understand do you you understand
human nature? If I'm fighting for my job, I have
to be all in now. So I need to commit
to the coach of the court and the GM and say, yo, guys,

(01:00:05):
here's my assurance. You guys go three and thirty three
and fourteen. You're still got You still have a job
next year. I don't care. Barring the dumbest, most ridiculously
stupid moves you got or a poor performance, you got
a job. So do me a favor. And this is

(01:00:28):
what we need to focus on the health and future
of the franchise. And I'll extend you in case you're
a lame duck guy, right Like you're extended. So there's
no that this is it. You gotta look and be patient.
Why don't they do that?

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
I don't know now, like, yeah, either get rid of cleanhouse.
Like most of these people are rich because they were
successful in business. I don't know why they don't use
the same mindset for their football team that they use
for business. I truly don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Like they hedge, you hedge it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
It's here that they don't want to pay them, right,
they hate paying having guys on the payroll, or or
they want to hedge You can't, like you, you put
your you put your franchise in limbo that way, because
you're right, it's human nature to for guys to save
their jobs, Like that's what you want to do. You

(01:01:28):
gotta figure out a way so you're gonna do stuff
that's not right for the future of the franchise.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
We see it coming. I don't know why they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
I know it'spcially the Giants after what they did. I
mean it played out on the hard knocks. Geez, they're
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Radio and the iHeartRadio app. So we did the NFC East.

(01:02:47):
Now let's go to the North. How do you think
the Lions are going to fare?

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
This year?

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Started out with so much promise, right like they were
the darlings of the league. They looked great, and then
all the injuries started to pile up and mounts, and
you know, then came Washington that fateful Saturday night and
they lose Ben Johnson finally, So there's gonna be something.
It's gonna be different. How do you recover from this season?

(01:03:21):
Because it wasn't like they underachieved, It was all external
with the injuries.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
I think that makes it easier in some ways to
recover from it because you can look at it and say,
you know what, this wasn't on us. This was on
just the way that the injury bug bit this year.
So you can the Lions are in the spot where
kind of like the Bills, while you can tweak things,
you're basically just going to keep running it back every year,

(01:03:49):
hoping for a different result, hoping that this is the
year you stay healthy and maybe somebody else is bit
by the injury bug so that they could deal with
what you deal dealt with. You know, I think at
some point, if you're the Lions, all you can do
is just, you know, you just look around and say, hey,
we're going to run it back because we know we
had a super Bowl caliber football team last year. Now,

(01:04:09):
I do think the coordinator issue is a big one,
you know, because we I don't want to take for granted.
You've seen it in Philadelphia, right Like, at some point
you got to look around and realize that every time
a coach has to swing at hiring coordinators, there's a
chance they miss. So you'd love to think that the
Lions don't even skip a beat. But when you have
new coordinators on both sides of the ball, that sometimes

(01:04:31):
can work out okay, and sometimes that can be a
hell of a learning curve. So I think that's the
interesting thing facing the Lions this year. But from a
roster standpoint, they're in, to use Howie's word from earlier,
they're in maintenance mode for a while, Like they're just
gonna keep drafting well because that's what they do, and
then figuring out how to resign their own because that's
what they're gonna have to do. And they keep trying
to run it back for Super Bowls.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Now, not that you're gonna do anything here, but do
you have any guys off worries?

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
I don't. I mean, I think golf has given you
everything you could possibly ask.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
For most of the time, right and even if you
time you saw he was pretty bad.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
Yeah, he had a couple of real stinkers last year,
a couple of big like oh my god, what the
hell happened in game? And wash? Yeah if Sam Bradford,
Sam Bradford, if Sam, but yeah, if Sam Donald, I
love how I'm putting Bradford back. If Sam Darnold had
that same five interception game, people would have been losing

(01:05:36):
their mind. But for golf, they're like, oh, it's fine,
he'll be fine. I do think. I mean he's only thirty, right,
Like if you're the Lions, you're looking around, you're like, yeah,
bad game, bad moment. Yeah, put it behind him.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
I'm with you, you know, like and I prefaced everything,
but by saying not that you're going to do anything,
I mean, this is what it is. But there's still
got to be like a right dude, like you know,
I need you now, all right. I can't have that game,
can't have that game in January. And it's a shame.

(01:06:10):
The ultimate shame for them is again it's the health.
They were a great team, they really were. They had
the best offense and football They're O line is if
it's probably number two to the Eagles, and it's certainly
in THEFC, probably probably in all football. And you know,

(01:06:31):
the running games about Gibbs. You know, as much as
I love Barkley Gibbs is the is just a crown
jewel at back because he's so fast, he runs an
amazing rounde He's just a great, great player.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
Yeah, And I think one thing that's really been key
for the Lions is they've lived in a bubble. They
don't listen to any of the noise. They have a
better sense of who they are and what they're doing,
and they have since the day that they brought in Gamble.
So I trust they'll be fine moving forward. It's just
they got to figure out how to get through this
injury bug issue somehow. Like right now, the only person
that I think should be really worried about their job

(01:07:08):
is the trading staff because they're gonna have to start
looking internally and figuring out what happened. Maybe it's freakier,
but as you know, sometimes the injury bug results and
change behind the scenes, you know. So I'm sure they're
analyzing where it came from and figuring out how.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
To stop it all right now, speaking to Bed Johnson,
let's go right to the bears, all right, because you know,
you know what the mission is.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
It's it's to save Caleb, right, that's the mission.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
I don't think. I mean, their first couple of steps
speak to the fact that they understand the only way
they're going to save the habits is by getting a
better offensive line in front of him.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
And I think that's you know, it's just smart moves
by them so far.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:07:49):
It's certainly kind of like the quarterback. I think they're
getting some some bridge gap options, but it's better than
putting your quarterback out there and continuing to put him
in a situation where you feel like he has to
hold the ball on too long and too much, just
a little bit what they did in Carolina, although the
difficulties for Bryce were far different. But Bryce was struggling

(01:08:09):
with the offensive line that was in front of him.
So what did Carolina do in his second year? They
went out and invested a bunch of money and trying
to bring in some veteran guys on the offensive line
to just calm some of that pre snap stuff down
and get Bryce to play a little more efficiently, which worked, right.
So I think this is a smart, smart offseason so
far by the Bears, who got the home run higher
of a coach. And I'm sure that if you're a

(01:08:31):
Bears fan, you're looking at that saying Ben Johnson will
fix all, but you can't fix all un till you
fix that offensive line.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Uh, Minnesota, we look this fascinating year, right because we
talked about the whole quarterback situation and JJ now taking over.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
I mean you got to be excited.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
I mean, you know, you still come back with a
really good team, a really good defense. I think you
tighted it up a little bit in the back end,
and I think you're ready to go. There's still They're
a good team, they have great weapons, they're built well,
they're well coached.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
I mean, they're absolutely in a super Bowl window right now.
I do think that it would make a ton of
sense for them to add if they if they can't
bring Darnold back, then I think they need to add
somebody to give themselves a bit of an insurance plan.
Let's remember that again. JJ is rehabbing from the injuries,
lost a lot of weight in that process. He's trying

(01:09:34):
to put the weight back on, Like, these are all
key things he didn't he didn't get any on field reps,
So still going to be a learning curve for what
is still essentially a rookie quarterback. Right Like, he's going
to make mistakes, so they're going to have to insulate
him a little bit, which I think they're capable of doing,
but just in case, you know, he needs a little
bit more time or he's not quite ready. If I
was the Vikings, knowing that I'm in a super Bowl

(01:09:56):
window right now, I'm still trying to aggressively make sure
I have a back cup option that I really like.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree, But I like
them North again, is gonna be a great division. Yeah,
I mean the East is really good at the top, right,
the Eagles in Washington are gonna be a fun those two,
but then there's the drop off Dallas and then the
Giants are bed the north. Green Bay's back. I mean,

(01:10:26):
you know, again, if you're a Green Bay, I do
think you got to help out Love. You still you
they have a lot of guys, a lot of receivers.
You know, you've got a couple tight ends. I think
those guys got to stay healthy. If that was a
difference in the playoffs. Now, they weren't going to beat

(01:10:48):
the Eagles, but they had no weapons. By the end
of it, they were really banged up.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
Yeah, and that's why I think everybody has been putting
all sorts of DK you know, into the university. They're
just gonna have to get more help. To your point,
for Jordan Love and again, if they don't love somebody
in the draft, that means being aggressive. The good news
for them is, at least from a brand name recognition standpoint,

(01:11:15):
there are a ton of wide receivers out there. There's
a ton of options for him, so you know, they
have the opportunity to get him exactly what he needs.
But they're going I agree with you, they need to
get him some help. For sure.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
They have a bunch of two's, you know. Yeah, no,
that's you're right, but that division is really good, really good.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
All right, we'll continue these this trip around the league
and kind of see what they need, see what teams
looking for, a kind of going over their state. As
we reach a pivotal part in the NFL calendar, Monday,
Tamperry Period begins. Fellas Jason Fitz Anthony gar got it
right here on Fox Sports Radio. Fellas Jason Fits Anthony Gargan,

(01:12:00):
tonight's the uh push the clock forward?

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
Oh shoot, wow, you're right spring forward. I don't know
why I said it that way. I just very excited
about singing forward. Get an hour less sleep tonight? Is
that the way?

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Ye? You lose the hour so at one this morning
it goes to two or whatever at midnight? Yeah, yeah,
you lose so instead of it goes right to two o'clock.
Lose an hour.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
That's gonna you know, that's gonna make tomorrow suck. I'm
not gonna lie about that. It's gonna make it We're
all gonna be a little groggy Sunday morning when we
get up. But you know what, little electra coffee, little
extra energy drinking, bam, you'll be right there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
Yeah, well, you love it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
And you know at nighttime when you go it's not
dark early, all of a sudden seven o'clock and the
lights it's to light out, like six thirty quarter to seven.
You know, we got baseball starting, so we've been uh
late last week. Last Saturday, we had a double header exhibition.
It was murder the wind. It's been freezing, right, I

(01:13:08):
don't know up there. I'm sure it's sick. We can
say freezing, all right, you got it even worse, and
it was just it was nasty, man like forty two
degrees would wind that baseball's miserable.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Forty two degrees of wind.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Yeah, there's there's no doubt. And usually you know, I'm
I'm good with cold weather. It doesn't bother me. I'm
good at handling it in general. This is the first
time I can really remember since I started spending so
much time up at Connecticut that I have ever been like, yep,
I'm just sort of done with it. Like every time
I go outside now, it's not even that it's that cold.
It's just cold enough to piss me off. Like every

(01:13:45):
you just walk outside and like yep, I got to
start the car early just to go to the gym.
Like it's just man, it's just cold enough to annoy
every ounce of your being. So you know, it's it's
I'm ready for this all to sort of go away.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
I used to love this show to wire. You have
to watch you watch the water.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
So the greatest line ever is nobody remembers a forty
degree day, Like forty degree days are the worst, and
that's what you got.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
Now, God, that is so true that this is this
is the just suffer through it, like I don't mind,
like Christmas time, you have the holidays, so it's great.
January February, I'm so obsessed with football, I don't really
pay attention to it. It is this time where we're like,
you know, in my mind, March madness is associated with
like spring is starting and there's a full in New England,

(01:14:37):
there's a full month after you know, like, well you
got to get to mid April before you can even
have any hope that you're actually going to start warming up.
It's definitely mid April, so it's setting in now that
like I don't. I don't need a groundhog to tell
me I still got six weeks left of this junk
to get through.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Yeah, yeah, no, I feel you, brother, I do.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
That's the one thing like I'm thinking about, all right,
your baseball, the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
But we're still we're still a few weeks away from
that stuff. So we're turning the clocks forward. It's light,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
I'm looking outside my house on my window now my
office and it's light. You know, usually it's dark, right,
So we've we've hit that piece where we can actually
see the warm weather, but we still.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Got like that last hurdle. It's like, oh my, I
do it. I completely feel you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
Yeah. Well, And the only thing I remind people in
New England all the time, because everybody complains about the
cold up here, and I get it. But like like
I said, I got you know, the next six weeks
are gonna kind of agitate me. To me, there's just
nothing worse than seven o'clock in the morning and you
walk outside in the middle of summer in the South
and all of a sudden you have buck crack sweat,

(01:15:49):
like the minute you walk out, like you haven't even
done anything. All you did was open the front door
to walk out and get the mail. It doesn't matter
like you're going out your walking the dog. You haven't
even gotten that far. You've want one step out the door,
and all of a sudden you're like, yep, I need
a shower again. Like humidity and heat together, I cannot stand.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
So you know, and what's your what's your favorite?

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Were you because I don't mind listen. I mean, nobody
loves oppressive heat, but I'd rather have that than be freezing.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
No, see, I'd rather be cold. Like I can layer up.
I can layer up, like I can put on extra
you know, three shirts and a hoodie and at least
get through it. I can't strip off enough to get
comfortable when it's that hot. So, like, which is weird
for a kid to grow up in Vegas and then
live there?

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Yeah, help with those oven summers.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Man. Man, there's just something about one hundred and fifteen
degrees that you're like, oh god, just it's just I
hate it. And then then you get to like the
ninety degrees and eighty percent humidity. I hate that too.
So I'm actually I like, I kind of think it's
a hot take, but I think that the New England

(01:16:59):
weather for me kind of wins, like I can I
can handle the two months of junkie cold. I can
just bundle up for that, and the rest of the
year is beautiful. The rest of the year is like
spring and fall are are crisp in New England, which
I enjoyed, Like I'm a hoodie guy all year round. Yeah,
And summer is absolutely like I love it up here
in Connecticut where people are like, I hate the humidity.

(01:17:20):
I'm like, have you never been south of the Mason
Dixon line there?

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Oh my god, you hot man?

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
You want to told about to go to trading camp
man Swanny Georgia. Oh man, I, I oh god. It
was so it's so hot down there. Those camps were brutal.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Play air. The air is like paste. You're breathing and paste.

Speaker 6 (01:17:46):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
I love the way you said, like the number of
times you know, playing the country music You're playing all
over the South and particularly and in very humid places
in the summer because that's where you know, you make
most of money. There's something about like Louisiana humidity that
just hits to like your skin bubbles the minute you
walk outside, and it's like it's a combination of sweat

(01:18:08):
and heat all just like yeah, falling into your pores.
It's like living in a sauna that you can't get
out of. It's just whoa, it's too much. It's too
much right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Last day because because you're were going to get back
to our NFL stuff next hour.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
But the tournament is around the corner. And I love this. Now,
I gotta ask you, because you do your you're on
your journey, man. You you It's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Amazing what you've done transforming your body. I'm so impressed.
Will you let loose during the tournament?

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
No? No, no, no, no, the tournament, I'll eat grilled
chicken while I said at Buffalo wil Wing's all day,
I'm gonna's a grilled chicken and soda water. You know
it's gonna be that kind of. It's gonna be that
kind of instead of a tournament. I want to look
in for the draft. The draft is my next target.
To try and get another app by the draft.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Nope, not one beer. No, God bless fellas, Fox for
it's radio.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
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(01:19:34):
night last night for the Nuggets. As jokicic the joker
with the league's first thirty twenty twenty game.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
I still can't get over that game, are you kiddefy?

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
Like how often does somebody do something that's just never
been done in the history of the sports, you know
what I mean? Like God, Like, it's it is insane
to think about the fact that he's won all these
m vps and he's having it even better year this year.
And I know, fatigue is fatigue, and you know that

(01:20:10):
that changes the way we viewed certain players. But man,
we can't normalize what we're seeing from Yokich. We have
to stop consistently and say, hey, this is this different,
you know, And the fact that he loves being out
of the spotlight, and he plays in a market that
I think, you know, frankly allows him to be out

(01:20:30):
of the spotlight. It's great for him personally that, you know,
he can just go back and live on the farm
of the offseason and it's awesome. There's there are times
like last night that I look at it and say, man,
I wish he played on a bigger brand at times,
just because I think there'd be more appreciation. It feels
like as much as Jokich gets some love, you know,
the whether it's the Dadbod jokes or whether it's just

(01:20:54):
you know, the Denver jokes, it's just I wish we
appreciated it a little bit more because it's this is
true epic, the way he plays in what we're seeing.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Dude. Yes, yeah, you're right, You're so right. I mean,
you think about him and.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Every big like his you think about his size, Like
he played forty five minutes last night.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
He in forty five minutes, he goes thirteen of twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Three threes, twenty one rebounds, twenty two assists and three steals,
thirty one points ol Dickens twenty two assists from a
big like I know, the offense goes throw him, So
I get it, but twenty two assists a twenty one boards,
Oh my god, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
Wild, especially when the whole world has had time to
and continues to try to figure out how to stop him. Yeah,
you know, it's just that every team is coming in
with a we're gonna row everything that we have Yokic,
and it just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. And

(01:22:07):
I mean it's it's breathtaking because there's not any one
thing that you can look at and say, hey, this
is his weakness, Like there isn't a weakness to get
this game like it's and there isn't any one person
that can match up to everything that he does.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
People talking about on the ball defense, but I mean,
will okay, come on.

Speaker 4 (01:22:31):
Modern MBA, there like that that we can agree on that, Like,
that's just exactly modern ball defense is not on ball
defense is not going to be the thing that really changes. Yeah,
but man, I look at it and I don't know
where the appropriate because I hate, you know, goat conversations
in general. I think all of it is so you know,

(01:22:54):
it's just so tired. But unfortunately, I wish we could
stop so much of the hyperbole on that because there
there is a real conversation about when have we ever
seen somebody do these things? And I don't know what
the right context is for that, because you know, just
like I constantly say, there has to be a line
other than suck, Like players aren't either All Star or suck.
They're somewhere in the middle for this, Like, I don't

(01:23:16):
know how to best appreciate Jokic in a way that
brings him credit without turning it into he's the greatest
dis or the time. But I do think that you
have to just step back and say, hey, guys, like
we're seeing one of the most memorable players we will
ever see in NBA history.

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
Yeah, yeah, I know. And he's still reminds me of Bird,
just as the way he sees the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Yeah, there's that Celtic City on HBO coming up that's
I think debuted last night or whatever, and it's all
about Boston and Celtics and the whole thing, and.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
It's I'm looking forward to. I'm a basketball fan.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
I hate the Celtics, but you know, as a basketball fan,
I'm dying to say it. I will say this the
West as much as I railed in the league, this year.
The West is interest me because with Luca now that works.

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
It was amazing to me.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
People saying that Lebron and Luca wouldn't work. If Lebron
and Kyrie could get you in the finals, why wouldn't
I mean, if Luca and Kyrie get you in the finals,
why wouldn't Lebroni and Luca work. That made no sense
to me. They're legit steps reborn now with Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
Yeah, I didn't see that. I was wrong about that,
by the way, I'll say that loudly.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
I didn't think that would be this dynamic and good
for them. I mean it's just yeah, good for them.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
And okay, see, is just nasty man. There's the deepest
team maybe ever. Like they sit everybody last night and
they still win by twenty eight, like they sat. I
know it's Portland, but still they set everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
And the funny thing is the only argument that people
can ever make for okay see, when it comes to like,
well what's going to happen in the playoffs, everybody says, well,
they're young.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
They're young.

Speaker 4 (01:25:10):
You know, it's got to they're not battle tested enough.
I don't know your depth point I think is an
important one because they're doing it a little bit different.
They got a lot of depth, and they still have
one of the best players in the world, right so
it's a hell of a combination to have. But for
all of that, you know, in basketball matchup world, I
keep watching the Lakers, and I know it's become this

(01:25:32):
hot topic for everybody because Barkley and Steven a going
back and forth. But I think there's a very what
you can't do is shut either end of that conversation
off just because you're tired of Lakers talk. So, like,
I think it's fair to say that the world should
probably pay more attention to Oklahoma City. I also think
it's fair to say that right now, despite the fact
that everybody's been paying attention to the Lakers uselessly for

(01:25:53):
the last couple of years, you can't tell me that
this Lakers team, as it's currently constructed, in the way
they're playing in a seven game series, can't beat anybody. So, like,
it's this is a pretty wild time in the West
to figure out what it's going to mean in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, it's interesting. Hey, And the last
thing before we get back to football, and the fact
that you have a quarterback. Rejoice, Raider fans, you have
a quarterback. So no beer during the tournament.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
Yeah, no beer during the tournament. Now I'm not have
a Guinness zero. Again, A zero is very good. It's
not an alcoholic gainness tastes just like Guinness. Nobody knows
the difference.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
But I was gonna it's funny, I was gonna bring
get us up to you because Guinness is lower calorie
and it's very low in alcohol.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
Yeah times I think I honestly don't know, but it
is low in calories. Again is zero. I've actually poured
some of my friends again at zero would and not
told them it was a zero, and they had no
idea until after they drafted a couple, you know, So
it truly get A zero tastes about saying you just
can't find it as readily, and and I want to

(01:27:00):
be like, I want to be in box. I'm gonna
take a quick second here on the NCAA tournament, and
I'm going to absolutely spend a second destroying sports books
that are charging out the wazoo for tables all over
the place. I've heard this really, Yeah, No, it's like
I looked at so Mohegan's Son is the big casino
in Connecticut. Mohegan Son in Foxwoods are two of the

(01:27:22):
largest casinos in the country in America, and oftentimes when
people come to visit, I'm like, hey, I'll take you
up to Mohegan. We used to play it all the
time when I was with the band, and people are like, nah,
I don't want to go to a random casino, and
then they walk in and they realize that it is
every bit what a Las Vegas resort is. Mohegan and
Foxwoods are both beautiful casinos. But I looked yesterday and
at a four top table during NCAA tournament in the

(01:27:45):
sports book is eight hundred dollars bare minimum, Like it's
an eight hundred dollars spend to evening what And I
look at that and I'm like, to me, that is
so short sighted in all of it. Like, I guess
they're going to fill them. I've got friends that you
go to all the different sports books in Vegas for
the incident for the opening weekend of the NCAA tournament,
hearing the same thing that you know, everybody's charging just

(01:28:07):
an arm and a leg for these premium seats, and
that doesn't even for Ohegan. Your eight hundred dollars spend,
three hundred of it is then a beverage credit for you.
So it's only a five hundred dollars spend, but you
still got to buy food and all that stuff. It's
not like a minimum. It's not one of those words
by a minimum. It's a eight hundred dollars for these

(01:28:28):
seats will give you a little bit of back towards
the beverages, but you still got to buy all your
food and everything for the day. Like I just I
think that's so short sighted by the places like that,
Like the tournament is such a crazy, incredible vibe and
you've got such a a captive audience to it. To me,
you know, up the price of your food and your
drinks and you know require a minimum spend. I'm totally

(01:28:50):
good with that, Like require, hey, you want a table,
you guys, the table has to spend at least this
amount of money. I got no problem with that. Making
me buy the table to then make me buy the food,
to then make me buy most of the drinks. Like
that's just that's a violation. So I'm mad at the
sports books that are currently charging all of this for this.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
You're gonna you're gonna bet the games with them?

Speaker 4 (01:29:12):
Yeah, I mean I had. I had a group of
about fifteen people that were ready to go to Mohegan
to watch the games in the sports book, and I
was like, well, let me just see how it works.
And you can't even you can't even get in without
a reservation. And to make the reservation, like I said,
a four top eight hundred bucks. If you wanted the
four top VIP, which included more benefits, it got as

(01:29:33):
expensive as I think six thousand dollars and I'm like what,
So my my entire group of buddies was like, now
we'll just go to Buffalo Wilings instead and we'll bet
in the app. So, you know, I think sports books
right now are a little confused on how easy it
is to just pull out my phone and do this
in most places, So big miss for everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
Yeah yeah, dude, that's crazy, Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
I didn't know that the eight hundred dollars just to
sit down, that's unbelievable. You're right, you go, you go
to just go to a pub and watch the game
of the bar. You got your phone, what do you
need what do you need the sportsbook for?

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
Yeah, totally think that's what everybody right now. And and
you know, I was talking to somebody a couple of
days ago about Vegas in general, and Vegas is struggling currently,
and you know, Vegas is pricing themselves out of a
lot of things. They Yeah, And the funny thing is
that's the opposite. You know, if you ever watch Kitchen Nightmares,
like Gordon Ramsey goes around to restaurants that a failing,

(01:30:41):
and one thing that is always interesting to me is
inevitably every restaurant that's failing that he's visiting, suddenly they're
using canned ingredients that are you know, their quality goes
way down. And Gordon always says, yeah, you're trying to
save dollars, but you're driving away with the clientele you
could have. And I think the same things happening to Vegas,

(01:31:01):
like as gambling becomes more and more, Like I said,
I can go to a casino forty five minutes from
my house and it's every bit as nice as the
casinos in Vegas. I can bet on my phone. So
if you want me to come into town for you know,
the NCAA tournament instead of pricing me out of it,
because the sports books in Vegas are just astronomical prices

(01:31:24):
to get four seat tables. If you want me to
come into the town, then do the opposite, Like that's
the Vegas I grew up on, was free hotel rooms
and you know, twelve dollars buffets and all of these things,
and all right, it was because they knew once they
got you there, they were going to get your money.
So I'm I think it's disappointing that, you know, the
Vegas sportsbooks have priced themselves to a spot where I

(01:31:46):
know people all over the country that usually fly to
Vegas for the first weekend of the NCAA tournament and
they're just literally not doing it this year because it's
no longer cost effective. And I think Vegas has forgotten
that I can again sit in the local bar here
with my buddies and we can just pull out our phones.
We can build the barlays, we can bet on the
funt we can we can communally bet, we can do
all of the things that you're usually doing where it's

(01:32:07):
like everybody pick a play and we'll put it together.
You can do all that from your phone now. In
most states. So you know, to me, in Vegas wants
to continue to thrive somehow or start to thrive again,
they got to do the opposite. They've got to be incentivizing, like,
you know, unless you're the sports book at Circle, which
is such a cool experience. The rest of them, Yeah,

(01:32:28):
but the rest of them are replicable almost anybody anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
Yeah, I dude, the stadium swim is ridiculous, that'd sir.

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
Yeah, stadium swim is amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
Yeah, it's really cool. But no, man, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
And these sports books that especially aren't in Vegas that
charge to sit like what are you nuts? Why you
don't have to do that? Just go to any bar
and get better food and and you're right, you just
take your phone out.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
Let's endnoughts. And for you know, Thanksgiving, I went to
the sports book at Fox was the other casino and
had a blast because I was able just to sit
down and watch the games and bet on the games
there and it was awesome. Like it, sports books are
a great experience to watch games, especially on big games
and fun big groups. It's a great experience. You should

(01:33:24):
just be pricing people into it, you know, or like again,
if they if the same sports book experience for anyone
that loves them. You know, if they came in and said, hey,
if you want a four top for the day, the
minimum your foretop has to spend is eight hundred dollars. Okay, right,
I understand. I understand minimums, and I understand why they exist.
I have no problem with that. If you come in
and say, all right, guys, for the fore top you

(01:33:46):
need eight hundred dollars and then you have to buy
your food and the majority of your alcohol on top
of it, that's just gouging at that point, and that's
keeping people away.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Yeah, and especially when you know, like you said, it's
so pervasive too, like if you want to bet the games,
you just go thrown your phone like I don't need you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
That's crazy, that's crazy, that's a low. That's wild.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
So the big story we started to show with was
the Raiders have a quarterback? My man over here, number
one Raider fan? How does it feel to have a quarterback?
Now It's funny because people go, well, you know, Smith,
what are you getting excited for? But I love the
way you explained it to start to show.

Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
Yeah, and I think having flexibility and Raiders fans were
in my mentioned last night freaking out in a negative way.
It's like, oh, I can't believe we're gonna pay Geno,
and I just look around at some point and say, okay,
first and foremost, if your team has the salary cap space,
which the Raiders do, and you're looking at this free
agent market, realizing is I think most teams are right

(01:34:54):
now that there's not that many people that are worth
breaking the bank over. You're now going to be using
that money instead to reinvest in your own roster. I
think we're gonna see a lot of that next week.
We're going to be reminded quickly that some of these
free agents are just This isn't necessarily the strongest free
agent class. So you're looking around and saying, well, I
got the money to spend, I got the cap space

(01:35:15):
for it. I'm going to do a deal with this
quarterback that will allow me the time to figure out
what I'm actually gonna do for the next ten years
at the position. Even if the Raiders give a three year,
four year deal extension to Gino, I'd say to everybody,
number one, look at the total money and look at
how it's split out. Before you freak out about the
amount per year. But number two, all right, so you
buy yourself time and now you can address quarterback this

(01:35:38):
year if you want, you can address quarterback next year.
I don't think we can stress enough that the Falcons
changed the business model last year. Investing one hundred million
dollars in Kirk Cousins as a backup plan and then
going in and getting Michael Pennix like that at the
time was something we all looked at and said, well,
that's stupid. And now we're looking around saying, okay, you
know what, First and foremost, Arthur Blank, the owner of

(01:36:00):
the Falcons, can afford one hundred million dollars who cares. Secondly,
look at the quarterback position instead of just looking at
how much they're paying one person, looking how much they're
paying the position. Overall. You factor the rookie deal with
the big free agent deal, it's still just a moderate position.
Will spend. That's part two, and then part three, it's
the most important position in sports, So fine as somebody.
And then I don't care how you find somebody, Like

(01:36:23):
if the Vikings bring back Stam Darnold and he has
a killer year somehow, and JJ stays on the bench
and they wasted that pick. Who cares get yourself a quarterback,
That's what. And so if Gino gives you the opportunity
to see just how good he can be. You know,
he's obviously had success with Pete Carroll. I think Pete
Carroll deserves so much benefit of the doubt when it

(01:36:45):
comes to the quarterback position because he found Russ and
he realized Gino wasn't washed. So if he thinks Gino
still got gas in the tank, I respect it. And
the flexibility of being able to go best player available
in the draft is massive.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
It is like we talk about you don't to start
the show about you know, Warded Sanders and the lukewarm
and then Dart who's rising and shocked. Like the people
talk about the quarterbacks, they go, you know you were you,
we heard you were hurt. Everybody to combine everybody the

(01:37:18):
same reaction so not have to go into the draft.
Yet I agree with you. I think it's a smart move.

Speaker 4 (01:37:27):
I mean, what if if you're the Raiders you had
the what if right now your choice was Shador Sanders
and whatever you can muster up in free agency or
Gino and Ashtrion genty and you take a quarterback in
the second or third round that you're going to develop
long time. To me, that's a better that's just a
better overall solution for your offense.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
By the way, Checky's gonna be a star.

Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
I love him.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
I love that kid. That kid is Jack. Kid's real,
He's real. Uh, all right, we'll come back. We'll go
through the rest of the teams. My buddy Pat is uh,
he lives in Vegas. He's like, dude, he goes, he goes,
We're now became La East. He goes, I'm at barras.

(01:38:12):
We charge eighteen dollars of beer. God, do you remember
like they used to be, Like you get a giant
ivy kid like twenty four hours higheykin draft for a dollar.

Speaker 4 (01:38:22):
Yeah, and then after you've had a couple of those,
you walk out on the casino floor and you lose
one thousand dollars at the craps table. Like that's right.
They're they're yeah, they're they're chasing pennies and losing dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
Yeah, terrible, all right, fellas, be back, go continue our
forway through the teams. Free agency tampering Monday, NFL all
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Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
Can I just laugh at that for one second? A
few years ago, I was talking to one of my
one of the younger people that was working on one
of the shows I was on at the time, and
he said, Man, I just wish that there was a
guide they would take all of my streaming services and
put them together and then show me what's on all
of them at once. And I was like, you're describing
cable like you are literally describing cable. So it's funny

(01:40:12):
that the more that the world becomes unplugged, which is
the inevitability, it's like, well, now we have all these apps,
we listen everything on. It's like, well, you can pre
set it. We're describing radio, but you know, hey, let's
not call it radio because nobody wants to call things
radio anymore. But like, hey, you know, it's it's just
funny that, you know, as things become old, they become new. Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
I had this same conversation with fast channels, right, so
people don't know fast channels are like Roku. When you
buy your Samsung TV, they're hooked up to the internet, right,
and you get all these channels and they're called fast channels,

(01:40:53):
and it's the newest thing, right. People love it, right
because you know you don't have the cable. But they go, well,
well what do we do with the fast channels? All
my network is on fast channels, and I go, yeah,
this is just like the uh RSNS. So like Denver Dallas, Philly,

(01:41:19):
d C, San Francisco, right, Chicago. All the big markets
had rsns, your regional sports networks, And it's the same thing,
except it's odd. It's digital. It's not using towers, and
in radio it's not it's not using towers. But it's
just like radio just an app. It's digital radio thing.

Speaker 4 (01:41:41):
And I think one of the cool things now in
consumption and media is that if you're a Raiders fan,
you can listen to Radar Nation Radio wherever you go,
wherever you are. That didn't exist, you know when we
were growing up, and you're if you're a seventy six
ers fan, you can get content from anywhere. And that's
one really cool, powerful things about it that I just think.

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
You don't want to be a seventy six ers fan.

Speaker 4 (01:42:05):
Yeah, no, that that is sorry if you're an Eagles fan,
just trying to figure out how to wait until the
next Eagles season. But like, there's so much power in
the fact that you can get so much content. It's
just it becomes harder and harder to organize it. And
like the number of times now when somebody says, have
you seen this show? The first question we have to
ask is like, well, what service is it on?

Speaker 6 (01:42:27):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:42:28):
Yeah, yeah, And by the.

Speaker 4 (01:42:29):
Time I actually log onto anything, like I forget, which
is oh yeah there was that show? Was that on
Apple Plus or Amazon Prime or Netflix? Like it's it's
just wild that we're all having to separate to go
to different places to literally watch and listen and consume everything.
And I still am a believer that at some point
it's going to be all centralized again. As much as

(01:42:50):
people think that's crez like y, it's it's going to
be by the time you end up paying whatever in
a few years, it's like, well, I'm paying fifty bucks
for ESPN and I'm in, you know, thirty bucks for Netflix,
give me one. Somebody's gonna come in and the services together,
and then we're gonna be like, oh, this is it's

(01:43:11):
this new thing called cobble. It's c b l E,
It's cobblay.

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
It's fabulous coble.

Speaker 4 (01:43:20):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
But it's the truth, you know, So nuts like ESPN Plus.

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
All right, well, you're basically giving me the NBA ticket
or the NHL ticket.

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
Mm hmm, that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:43:40):
Yeah. And when I was great, when I was at
when I was at ESPN though, there were shows on
Plus like Popular the the some of the top ranked
shows that were only getting a few thousand views a day,
and it's just crazy, Like you know, part of what
this is all about, too, is just like filling libraries.
So's kind of like, kind of like when you log

(01:44:02):
onto Netflix, there's gonna be a thousand things you can watch. Well,
nine hundred and eighty of those thousand things suck and
nobody wants to watch them, but they got to have
a bunch of options for you, so they throw them
all out there, so you know, it's just it's, yeah,
it's interesting to me because.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
Well, the two greatest advances I think you'll agree are,
like you said, you're a Raider fan, so you can
watch it anywhere, right, So you could consume any sort
of news anywhere, So I could watch and I love this.
I I've been on a on a hockey kick. I'm
trying to figure out, like after football, I needed to

(01:44:39):
dive into something, so I always watch NBA or college basketball.
But I'm also a hockey fan, so I've been the
league's fun. Like I love watching the Avalanche Vegas, right,
They're just fun teams to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:44:53):
So I had to the Plus and I go in
and I watch a lot of those those games. I
love it. It's great.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
You can watch anything and any time, and all demand
is the other thing, the all demand portion of it
is the greatest, the fact that I could just go
watch shows whenever I want, Like you know, tonight, we'll
have a date night and cocktails and we'll watch our shows.

Speaker 4 (01:45:19):
Yeah. Yeah, it's it's such an incredible advancement. But it
also changes so much of the water cooler conversation. That's
such a I miss. I miss you know, like whatever
NBC on Thursday nights, or like the fact that Friday
whatever happened on Friends. Yeah, Like you know, I love
the fact that White Lotus comes out on Sunday nights

(01:45:41):
because then, like it's still a conversation piece, you know.
But certainly I miss some.

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
Of the I still like the show, the shows. I mean,
the formula, I get the formula, but the show's good show.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
I like the show. I like the Exotic, I love
Sicily and I like this year. Uh, I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:59):
It's it's okay, it's taking a second of ramp up,
like you know, like all of these things. That's why
I will constantly credit any TV show that just calls
it like. The fact is, Succession could have had three
more seasons if they wanted to just bleed that thing dry.
The fact that they found a perfect way to just
end it. I respect that so much.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
When it shows a question to you a little on
the bone, do you get it's funny you say that,
I get sad because I get close.

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
I love the characters.

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
I love TV right, I love I mean, I love
serial content where you get to know the character and
part of me. When the show like Succession ends, as
much as all those characters really were, you reviled them,
you like them right like you still they were a
master at making you like the anti hero.

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
So I get depressed when the show ends.

Speaker 4 (01:46:58):
Yeah, well, and by the way, making you love the
anti heroes like HBO one oh one, and they do
it so brilliantly on so many of their shows. Yeah,
of course, But to your point, yes, So this is
a quirk for me. Succession. I got caught into and
I binged it, like I just I was late to
the party, and I ended up watching all whatever three

(01:47:18):
or four season how many there were. I watched all
all of the seasons in the matter of like a week,
and I just I couldn't get enough of it. It
was great on the whole. When shows invest years of
my life like this is a quirk for me. You're
not going to be pleased when I say this. I
never seen the last season The Sopranos. I knew it
was the last season. I didn't want to watch how
it ended. I knew it would disappoint me. I know

(01:47:39):
how it ends. Obviously, culturally we all found that out.
Never watched the last season. Like The Americans was one
of my favorite TV shows of all time. Never watched
the last season, no idea how. Wow. Really, there's a
part of me that's like, I don't want the TV
writers that like, I think shows end so poorly so
often that most of the time, I'm like, I don't
want you to butcher the ending, because that's what I'm

(01:48:01):
going to think of forever, is that I hated the
way you ended the show. So more often than not,
I have no idea how these shows ended. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:48:09):
Wow, it's a weird work.

Speaker 4 (01:48:12):
It's a weird quirk. I didn't have me the last
season of The Americans.

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
That's crazy. You invest all that time and you you
skew the ending.

Speaker 4 (01:48:24):
There's a moment where it's like I don't trust I
just don't trust the writers. I've heard the Americans. I
don't know how it ended. I heard the last season
was actually like part of me, what I want to
do is go back, and because now it's been years
since I watched it, I would love to go back
and just rewatch the whole the whole show, you know,
in a binge fashion, and then maybe see how it ends.

(01:48:46):
But I don't know. Like, so, there was this weird
wrestling show on Stars called Heels that I got hooked
into when I was sick a few weeks ago, and
I watched the whole first season of Heels and I
had no idea that it didn't get picked up for
another season. I had no idea, And it ended like
I'm not going to for anyone that's ever going to
watch it. It was one of the most staggering, like

(01:49:07):
cliffhanger sort of endings you could ever imagine in that situation.
And then I was like, I google win is season two?
Oh sorry, the show was abruptly canceled. I like that
was a kick. I wouldn't have started the show if
I knew that it was abruptly canceled because now I
have no idea that so, like, I don't like to
be blindsided by weird endings. I'm very I'm very particular
on this. It's weird. It's quirk.

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
Yeah, well that there's nothing worse than you when you
get into a show and then they cancel it. So
like I've that sucks, like especially a drama, Like you're
investing into a drama and.

Speaker 3 (01:49:44):
It's it's no mo your life, what the hell you know? No, No,
I feel you, I feel you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
All right, we gotta take quick t We'll come back
and uh, I want to get back to well, I
mean you think about it Land. I want you to
think about Atlanta. We love Panics. What's the future of Cousins?
What should be the future? Like which is so wild.
We're thinking about these quarterbacks, the Donald Cousins, you know,

(01:50:16):
go to Pittsburgh with you know, you look at that
state right, you go, all right, well, who's the quarterback there?
The Giants? Like these teams that have no quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (01:50:32):
It's wild.

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
Jason Fits Anthony Gargana Where the Fellas right here on Fox.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
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Speaker 2 (01:50:42):
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Speaker 3 (01:50:49):
Hey, so let me ask you, what do you do?
Like if you're like, what do you do with the cousins?

Speaker 4 (01:50:58):
Well, the funny thing is you got to pay for
him either way, right right, So, knowing that you're going
to be paying the bill either way, the question becomes
do you help the player out and let him go
somewhere else where he can try to compete right away,
or do you leave yourself an insurance blanket? And if
I'm sitting here as Falcons management and looking around, I

(01:51:22):
still want that security banket, you know. And I'll be
consistent here because a year ago, right now, I kept
telling you that I thought that, you know, as good
as Jordan Love looked at times, we need to see more.
Like you can't make a sweeping generalization on quarterback based
on five or six good games. I don't think that
that's a safe thing to do. So even with Pennix playing,

(01:51:42):
I think pretty well at the end of the year,
I still want to give myself a safety blanket in
case there's a step back. I love having the idea
of a backup that I know that can come in
and execute. And I love having an adult in the
room that can really be a guiding force to whatever
whatever that quarterback room looks like. So I, frankly, I
know that Kirk Cousins wants to go somewhere else and play.

(01:52:03):
But if I got to pay the bill either way,
he's not leaving my locker room. I'm just keeping him.
There's whether it's about salary cap or reel cash. Either way,
this is Arthur Blank's check to right right now, So
I keep him.

Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
Yeah, yeah, I hear you. I hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
Unless you can leverage something great. And I again, if
you're somebody, if you're a team that's starved, I mean,
how much you're going to like what kind of capital
are you going to give up?

Speaker 6 (01:52:34):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
Coming off with an Achilles like you can't gamble, there's
a cap to where you can possibly give a compensation.

Speaker 4 (01:52:43):
Yeah, I mean, coming off the Achilles thirty six years
old to be thirty seven when the season starts. The
good news is that and this is part of why
I think the Falcons are going to keep him too,
Like they haven't out after this year in the contract,
so he's forty million dollars in cap space and then
they can get rid of him after the year with
the thirty five million dollars dead cap hit, which I'm

(01:53:05):
sure they would spread over two years if they wanted to.
If you're the Falcons, not a lot of incentive. If
you're another team, what's one year? Like this is a
little bit of the geno argument, like do you want
to go get a quarterback and then you know, are
you gonna have to change any of the money in
Kirk's contractor you're just getting him for the one year
and you're paying forty million bucks for Kirk Cousins. Like

(01:53:26):
if he played particularly well last year and you know,
Penics just beat him out, then sure, I'd been Kirk
Cousins over. There's limited options of it. If you're the Giants,
you know it bring over Kirk Cousins and then also
figure out how to draft a quarterback, like run it
from two different angles. I think that's smart. But if
you're at this point, he didn't play well and unless

(01:53:46):
you believe that it's because it takes that much time
to come back from the Achilles, but your medical can't
really make that judgment. Who knows?

Speaker 1 (01:53:53):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
So too much for a.

Speaker 4 (01:53:54):
Cap shoot for me, like I wouldn't give up assets
for him, and if I'm the Falcons, I wouldn't let
him out the door because he's still the best insurance
plan I can have.

Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
Yeah, it's amazing. You think about how lucky Tampa got.

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
You see the Browns in hell right like, they leverage
everything and it's a huge, colossal mistake with Deshaun Watson,
and they have Baker. Baker leaves and Baker just blossoms.
So we're talking about the NFC South your Tampa you

(01:54:28):
feel great about having Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 4 (01:54:31):
Yeah, at this point, it's no longer the offensive coordinators
that we should be giving the shine too. I think
it's Baker. Baker's getting guys jobs, you know, Yeah, playing
really well. So in that if you're Tampa Bay like,
and that's the great hope that everybody's using, right, Like
we had Gino a few years ago, and then we
have Baker, then you have Sam Darnold. Like, it feels
like you can look at some of these guys that

(01:54:52):
the league was ready to give up on and say, hey,
in the right systems, with the right coaches, you can
get some effectiveness out of them. And that's that's a
that's everything. If you're Baker, it's everything, But if you're
Tampa Bay, it's everything too. Like it's it's just a
reminder that sometimes the reason these guys take flyers is
because you have to go back to how they got
in the league, what you saw when they got in

(01:55:12):
the league, and then ask yourself, you know, whatever problems
they've had in the league, is that something that we
can work around schematically? And if you have the right coaches,
I think you can well.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
And you know, it's funny if that's why Justin Fields
will still have a job, because you're hoping that Justin
Fields figures it out a little bit as a thrower,
and you know, could could be could be salvaged.

Speaker 4 (01:55:39):
Yeah, And also, man, I still look at it and say,
I think Justin Fields has talent. I wonder if anybody
has really been able to figure out the best way
to utilize that. And I just think that happens more
and more and more. And you know, I keep screaming
to people that say they don't want Sam Donald because
of the way he looked the last couple of games.

(01:56:00):
You know, I keep screaming, well, he won fourteen games.
And then if you say, well, it's a one year aberration.
I guess my question is, do you not believe that
your coach is as good as Kevin O'Connell, Because Kevin
O'Connell and that offense certainly figured out how to get
the most out of Sam Donald. So if you don't
believe that you can with your favorite team, what you're
telling me is that you don't believe your coaching staff

(01:56:20):
is as good as the Vikings coaching staff because they've
shown you that Sam Donald can play at a really
high level.

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
Well, and then you look at it, right, if you're
the Steelers, why can't you be Why can't you run
an offense the way the Eagles run an offense and
have and have run the same run fields like you
would run Hurts.

Speaker 4 (01:56:47):
But that takes that takes a coach that's going to
come in and say, you know what, I'm going to
change what I do to match this player, which is
what every coach should do. We talk about it all
the time, but I just don't think a lot of
coaches walk in and say this is my system, this
my offense, this is how I got here, and this
is the type of player I want for that system.
I hate it. I hate that that there are so

(01:57:07):
many coaches that way, but I think a lot of
them fall victim to that coaching ego. Is everybody as
bad as playing?

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
Yeah, No, you're right, because if you look at if
you're a look at Pittsburgh, if you ran the that
offense would work in Steelers, right, if you you get
Dobbins or whatever back, you're going to get, you shore
up that line, you're close. You play defense, and he's
a great athlete, and he's got such good arm like
you could run that offense, and that offense worked.

Speaker 3 (01:57:36):
Now, Jalen. I'm not saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:38):
It's easy to become Jalen Hurts, but my point is
he's got physical tools and they don't run all spread
and intricate down the field passing game.

Speaker 4 (01:57:50):
You just wonder if if it's being thought through the
right way.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
Yeah, all right, pig Il. We're coming up next the
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Speaker 1 (01:58:02):
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Speaker 3 (01:58:37):
So we appreciate you hanging out.

Speaker 2 (01:58:40):
Uh FITZI a couple things because Monday is such a
big day when the final tampering period, well the tampering
period begins, uh, leading up to Wednesday start a free
agency when you can.

Speaker 3 (01:58:51):
Actually sign deals.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
So it's funny, it's all it's they're already start like
many you have combine with all those agents and everybody there.

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
That's what everything happens. That's when everything gets to put
in the motion.

Speaker 4 (01:59:08):
I was reading somebody the other day said the tampering
actually starts as much as six, seven and eight months
in advance, where little conversations happened that are not allowed
to happen, but at the combine, particularly because you know,
I was talking to a great example. Joey Epstein is
one of my co hosts Yahoo on one of our
football shows. She's an NFL insider. And when I say

(01:59:31):
that Jory doesn't go out, I mean Jory doesn't go
out like you know, she doesn't drink, she doesn't party,
she doesn't go to bars at all, and so just
just not part of her life. Like she's never seen
any movie that I've ever referenced. She doesn't watch any TV.
She reads, She absorbs football and she reads more. That's it.

(01:59:51):
And I was stunned, you know, when we were doing
our show last week and we at one point she said, sorry, guys,
you know, we were out at the bars until fourth
third in the morning, and I was like, Jory, why
would you possibly be out at a bar till four
thirty And she has somebody that literally only drinks water.
She said, She's like, that's that's what you have to
do in Indy. You have to your sources are there

(02:00:13):
that people are comfortable talking to you at two thirty, three,
thirty four in the morning at a bar. We have
to remember that. That's what's happening for reporters. That's also
what's happening between agents and teams, Like they're out until
four in the morning, having some drinks and then saying
things they probably shouldn't and nobody's sitting there wire tapping
or using their phone to record it, so you can't
prove that they had any sort of conversation. But these

(02:00:35):
contracts are intricate. So when inevitably eight minutes in we
hear about contracts that are done, and just remember that
they were probably hammering out the final details in Indy.

Speaker 3 (02:00:46):
Yeah, you know, it's great, Like you go, hey, h
nugi are aging X? I love your plier?

Speaker 4 (02:00:55):
What do you figure?

Speaker 3 (02:00:56):
Here's what, here's what we got. This is my budget.
It's the best. Yeah, and it's so you know, so
and so said they're looking at so and so and
you know, looking at him. I love it. I like
I missed it. I wasn't there to share. I love
that stuff I do.

Speaker 2 (02:01:13):
It's it's great. It's great, you know, being out and
all that shatter and all those rumor maga and all
because everybody's everybody's got something to say.

Speaker 3 (02:01:24):
You hear so and so ask so and so, and
I heard what they're too.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
And it's great because everybody throw shade and everybody's trying
to angle, and everybody's lying, and the agents are the
conduits of everything.

Speaker 3 (02:01:37):
It's pretty good stuff. Yeah, that's a that's its old show,
you know.

Speaker 4 (02:01:42):
Yeah, I mean it would be amazing to do a
show where you're just literally sitting there letting every rumor
go every every single thing. There's some of these some
of these things that you start hearing in Indie and
you know, trying to figure out fact from fiction. I
don't know how insiders do it. It's it's something you know.
Cheft he's been a friend of mine for a long
time and one of the most incredible things to me

(02:02:04):
is that nine of the time, guys in those situations
have to figure out when they're being used and when
there's something real. And that's just man, I don't I
just don't know how you sort through the bs and
all of that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:16):
Yeah, well you know the agents for everything. Man, that's
because the GM's are going to use you. Why everybody's
using you to the agents, you're using you too. But yeah,
it's it's it's it's a lot. The thing that makes
it so difficult is you're just constantly on your phone.
I was talking to WoDES the other day, woes is

(02:02:37):
now the GM. I'd say, bonta vetch or basketball and
he's like, dude, I don't miss it. But he did
an event at Teppall. It was a joint NIL event
with with Kevin Na Gandhi and it was like, you know,
be in locked your phone eighteen hours a day is rough. Hey,

(02:03:01):
you got the deadlines and then you all your hits.
It's just it's it's listen, it's it's tough, like you
gotta be you gotta work it, man, you know, you
really do.

Speaker 4 (02:03:16):
And look how we had Woge on air at one
point and in the middle of talking on air, he
just had to walk out of the studio live because
he was getting a call from the Lakers he had
to take. And I've seen the intensity with which Woge works.
And I don't think people understand how taxing being an

(02:03:36):
insider truly is. Like I mean, certainly they made, you know,
generational wealth, doing it for the for the best of
the best, so they're they're well compensated. But you genuinely
don't have a life. You don't have time to do anything.
You're always on your phone. There's always a story breaking.
And when you think about the marathon length of the
season for woj, you know it's for the NBA, And

(02:04:00):
then you think about the fact that for Schefty, the
season never stops, like football never stopped.

Speaker 3 (02:04:04):
Over stops.

Speaker 4 (02:04:06):
It's just, you know, it's kind of alarming, And there
have been times that you know, we've had I've had
Schefty on air and then afterwards you find out that
he was on vacation with his family in Hawaii, and
it's like, doesn't matter, news broke, and it's just it
is a grind. And to think that actually, fundraising for
Saint Bonaventure's and trying to build a basketball program there

(02:04:28):
as a GM is less of a grind than what
he was doing. Like, it's crazy, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:04:33):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (02:04:35):
Mike caren Fulla from the NFL Network is a We're
dear friend. His sister is married to my cousin. He
was my producer way back in the day when I
left newspapers went the radio and Mike, he's like, dude,
he goes. My wife is constantly yelling at me, like

(02:04:56):
we're at you know, he's got two girls. We're at dinner.
The phone's always on the table, and you know what
kind of examples that you know your phone is that
it's like I had my job, I have to be
tied to it at all times, especially now, like you
never know what you're going to get a text. It's crazy,
I mean, but this is the this is the fun
of it. Like, we just did the NHL trade deadline,

(02:05:19):
and you know, the public loves it. We love deadlines,
the NBA trade deadline, Brad Marshan move. When Marshan goes
to Florida, that's a big deal. What was it like
in Boston? I mean Connecticut was it was there a
lot of Marshan?

Speaker 4 (02:05:36):
It was, there was some of it, but it wasn't
as I mean, it's marsh It's still hockey, so it
doesn't it doesn't, it doesn't resonate the same way. But yes,
like there was there was some of that, and we
are now you know, yeah, yeah, no, Like I think
Boston probably felt it a lot more than than Connecticut did.
But to your point, and what you what your statement

(02:05:57):
really asked me thinking about, is just the fact that
in general, other than the NFL and college football in general,
most sports, I think it has become more enjoyable to
discuss and to talk about on our shows and for
sports bar conversations to be about drama and movement and

(02:06:17):
player tracking than it is about the actual games. Like
the actual It is rare that you'll walk into a
sports bar anymore and here somebody say, oh my god,
did you see that Bruins game last night? But you
can walk into a sports bar and have somebody say,
oh my god, you see the Martians. You know what
I mean? Like it's interesting because you know this living
in an NBA world, Like we spend more time talking

(02:06:40):
about embiid than we do talking about the actual games.
And we'll spend more time talking about where Jimmy Butler
was going to go, and then the minute Jimmy Butler
goes somewhere, that conversation kind of falls off. Even though
Jimmy Butler's playing incredibly well for the war Like, even
though the Warriors have had this big turnaround, I feel
like Jimmy Butler is less of a day and d

(02:07:00):
out story than when we had the drama around what
was gonna happen next for Jimmy Butler. Like you you're right,
you're right, it's crazy, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:07:08):
It's hot stove, it's you're you're one hundred percent right,
and it's only football.

Speaker 3 (02:07:12):
Football is the only sport where you can bind both right,
like where the games obviously are are everything. But my god,
Like you know Detexans acquiring Christian Kirk. Everybody knows who
Christian Kirk is right, like.

Speaker 2 (02:07:30):
People Texas guy, another receiver, a deep threat, you know,
made me stay healthy, Like people know the backstory of
Christian Kirk because we are that knowledgeable or into the rosters.
So all this player movement let alone, you know, Oh man,
where does Henderson go? Oh my god, what are the
begal's gonna do? What about d k.

Speaker 4 (02:07:54):
You know? And that's like, that's just I don't know.
I'm the the type of neighbor that doesn't if I
see an ambulance driving down the street, I don't give
it two thoughts usually, and if I do, my first
thought as man, I hope everybody's okay. That's how if
I see like an ambulance down the street, most neighbors

(02:08:15):
that I've known in my life, if they see an
ambulance pull up to my house, god forbid, are immediately
looking out the window trying to figure out what's going on,
Like what's the ambulance gonna do? Like are they really
worried about my safety? Or they just into the Oh
my god, there's an ambulance over there. I gotta know
what's going on. Like that's kind of how we consume
everything as a society now, Like we are. Everything's like, ooh,

(02:08:35):
I gotta know the drama, give me the tea. Like
this has become such a gossip based fueled society in
general that it's just way easier to talk about. You know,
post Oscars, most people hadn't seen ninety percent of those movies,
but everybody had a hot take based on some drama
around who won and who lost, and then we'll go

(02:08:56):
right back to not paying attention to any of it.
So it's like it's we are, we are crave. We
crave some sort of drama that we can absolutely like
attach our flags to and it's an interesting thing, like
it's never going to change. That's the way we are
now as a society. It's just wild to me because
I live in the opposite. I just don't. I as

(02:09:16):
a person don't thrive in other people's drama, like true crime,
the very thing of true crime, and I love true
crime podcasts. But it occurred to me the other day
is I was watching I was flipping through Netflix and
they had the girl Gabby, Gabby Patrino, I think her
last name is the girl that was unfortunately, you know,
killed in domestic violence, and Netflix had a special on it.

(02:09:39):
And I sat there and thought, I was like, man,
when did we get to the spot as a society
that what we love is anything that is rehashing probably
the worst day you could ever imagine for a whole
group of people, Like why are we making documentaries about
terrible murders that have been solved just because people want
to know more of the drama and the backstorre behind it.

(02:10:00):
And I can't imagine being her family and looking around
and being like, oh god, oh my god, there's another
you know, Like there's a difference between that and like
an unsolved case where they're constantly trying to stay in
the news. I understand why, you know, like the things
like jumping a Ramsey have become such a conversation piece
for generations, but we as a society in general, it's like, Wow,

(02:10:21):
that person that family's worst day, We need more information
on that. But if it was that family's best day,
we don't really give it him. Like it's just a
weird world. Man, It is a weird world.

Speaker 3 (02:10:32):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (02:10:32):
You're right, And I kind of you know again, I'm
in my own little bubble that I'm the same way,
like you know, I have to worry about my own household.

Speaker 3 (02:10:41):
I can't keep up with Mike.

Speaker 2 (02:10:43):
I can't keep up with my kids games right like
my kids sports right between work and my children. That's it, man,
I don't have any time for anybody else's drive by
own stuff. So I feel you on that and that
the fascination with it, and it does bleed into sports
what your.

Speaker 4 (02:11:00):
Point is, Yeah, it bleeds into how we cover sports.
And but the funny thing to me is the reason.
One of the reasons I love watching the games is
the games of the ultimate reality show. Yeah, I don't
need drama behind college basketball this weekend. I know that
there's going to be great college basketball, like, so I don't.
I don't need to talk about whether Cooper Flag is

(02:11:20):
coming back next year. I just want to watch Cooper
Flag play today. Like that's That's just the difference in
how I'm wired. I realize I'm I am the weird exception.

Speaker 3 (02:11:29):
Yeah, and I'm more like you. I say, I love games.

Speaker 2 (02:11:34):
I'd rather watch games than opinion shows, even though we
do one like, I'd rather I'd rather watch I just
love the games of themselves, you know, like today there's
some great ball all to day. I mean, Marquette Saint John's.

Speaker 4 (02:11:50):
Look at this, Saint John's doing this thing? Is this
amazing right now? By the way, it really is.

Speaker 3 (02:11:56):
A friend of mine is the production company behind the
Patino Show.

Speaker 4 (02:12:02):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (02:12:03):
So we just got another episode to follow with Dorian
March Madness to them.

Speaker 3 (02:12:10):
Yeah, yeah, it's great. It's a great story.

Speaker 2 (02:12:14):
This is a great game today, Marquette Sat John's Missouri
Kentucky's a great game too.

Speaker 3 (02:12:20):
Both Newton starts.

Speaker 4 (02:12:21):
Yeah, well then and then right when that wraps up,
you get Auburn Alabama again like this and this Auburn
Auburn justs It's incredible to me that, you know, we
keep talking about the greatness of the SEC this year particularly,
we should be talking about the greatness of the SEC,
and realizing obviously that Auburn just lost to Texas A

(02:12:46):
and M. But to think that they've gotten gotten through
this gauntlet, I mean, they're twenty seven and three in
what is going to turn out to be arguably one
of the greatest years we've ever seen for any conference
in college basketball, like Projection yesterday that had fourteen of
the sixteen SEC teams and so like, and to be
sitting here at twenty seven and three like Auburn. It

(02:13:08):
is absolutely insane at what Auburn is doing. And if
you're Bama, you've been in some of these games that
you're just looking at it saying, how the hell do
we lose? Like, how the hell did Bama not figure
out how to inbounds the ball against Tennessee last week?
The game? It's crazy to me. So yeah, just the
fact that we're getting that this late, like we're getting
meaningful true seating on the line. Oh my god, we

(02:13:31):
still can't figure out who the best teams are two
days before we're into conference tournament. Actually, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:13:37):
So we have the Brain coming up and he does it.
He'll give us some picks and we talk about sports
from a betting perspective. A question for you, Duke, is
only ten and a half against Caroline. Now, I know
the game's Chapel Hill, but that matchup is not good

(02:14:01):
for Carolina. We saw it the first game. Now it
got crazy, but I don't see how it doesn't get
crazy yet. I don't know how they stay in the
game against that team.

Speaker 4 (02:14:10):
I a thousand percent agree with you. And in fact,
if you just look this year at North Carolina for
the most part. When they've played ranked teams, it hasn't
been that competitive. I mean, this is North Carolina has
beaten up on some teams in the ACC to add
that win total. But I mean, come on, Clemson beat
them and beat him by a few weeks ago. Duke

(02:14:33):
beat them bad. We know that. I feel like they
had an earlier game this year might have been Florida
memory against the SEC. They played a couple of a
couple of those SEC teams and neither of those games
were competitive. Like, I just I'm with you, I don't.
I don't think this is going to be a competitive
Duke North Carolina game today, and that's going to be

(02:14:53):
That's that's a hard building.

Speaker 2 (02:14:54):
For Florida Carolina. It was a good game, but Florida
beat him by six early. You're right, they've lost to
every ranked team. Bama beat them by fifteen, Florida.

Speaker 4 (02:15:08):
And Obama beat them, and Auburn beat them early in
the year, Big two. So you know, yeah, I just
go up and down the board, like when Carolina has
to play somebody that's actually worth the damn it doesn't
work out well.

Speaker 2 (02:15:19):
You know what's crazy, dude, I'm just going back to
November I'm looking at Carolina schedule right to start the
season on November eighth, right, how early that is? November
the eighth, North Carolina. It was ranked what I don't remember,

(02:15:41):
I know they were ranked time number nine.

Speaker 4 (02:15:45):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (02:15:46):
And on November the eighth, that Friday, to kick off
the season in one of the big early tournaments, they
played number the number one team in the country.

Speaker 3 (02:15:59):
Do you know what was?

Speaker 4 (02:16:01):
No, I only know this because it came up the
other day in my prep.

Speaker 3 (02:16:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:16:04):
Kansas, Kansas. Yes, we forget that. Kansas started this year.

Speaker 3 (02:16:08):
Yeah, number one, and they it's just been a disaster.

Speaker 4 (02:16:12):
Of a year for Kansas.

Speaker 2 (02:16:13):
Right, Oh my god, I forgot now, I'm like, oh, yeah, true,
there were number one. They were the number one team
in the country. Kansas. It's unbelievable. And they won that
game ninety to eighty nine over Carolina. And to your point,
Auburn a little later on in the month crushes them

(02:16:38):
eighty five to seventy two. And wasn't that close And
the Maui invitation alburn was that good? Like we should
have saw Auburn back then.

Speaker 4 (02:16:50):
And think about this is one of the crazy things
about the transfer portal in college basketball, Hunter Dickinson left
for Kansas and made it pretty clear that they were
going to pay him the most and he gonna be
able to win the most there. And it's like, how'd
that work out for you? Hunter, Because I mean, right now,
Michigan looks like they're in a pretty good situation and
Kansas does not. So it's a it's kind of wild

(02:17:12):
how this thing played out.

Speaker 3 (02:17:13):
Yeah, yeah, big way. All right.

Speaker 2 (02:17:16):
Bray comes up next and we'll get back to football
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(02:18:11):
this show posted Right after we get off the air
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Our man the inside of the Brain. Brad Feinberg, Good morning, brain.

Speaker 6 (02:18:24):
What's that funny hell are you today?

Speaker 5 (02:18:26):
So?

Speaker 3 (02:18:27):
Did you have the over twenty twenty thirty for jokicch
last night?

Speaker 6 (02:18:34):
It's unbelievable again, you know, in the history I saw
that box score. I was watching them some of the
game and I just couldn't believe. It's like, it's like,
you say, how can a player do that in the NBA.
It's like it just it doesn't seem possible. And He's
just I told you when I watched it play Anthony,
I feel like I'm watching a guide in slow motion,

(02:18:56):
you know what I mean? Yeah, he like bird, he
like sex the game like in a way that again,
he plays it like Keith in slow motion. Like Keith.
He just sees everything before everyone else. He's a phenomenal player,
just fastly phenomenal player.

Speaker 2 (02:19:12):
You see why Kessler lost all He had twenty rebounds
on the first death.

Speaker 6 (02:19:19):
Well, funny, I always tell you my wins, I'll get
my loss. I had Kessler under like thirteen and a
half rebounds. I lost it, like in the first quarter,
Ill said, Okay, we'll move on. I had a good
prop day yesterday, but that was not one of my
uh one of my better, one of my better yesterday.
Get Walker Kessler had an amazing game yesterday as well.
But Joe gets just otherworldly.

Speaker 3 (02:19:39):
Yeah he's he's the best. Let's get it started. Fifteen.

Speaker 2 (02:19:42):
I want to pick your brain locks you get to Yeah,
yet maybe there he is. My boy's excited this morning.

Speaker 4 (02:19:50):
I mean, look, the only thing I'll say to the
brain is that, like, because I see all that they
hate on social media, Like I think Pete Carroll has
earned a little benefit of the death. If Pete Carroll
tells me that Gino Smith can can be the quarterback,
I'm gonna trust him. That's all.

Speaker 6 (02:20:02):
Well, No, I mean to me, Geno Smith again, I
look to give up a number three pick for him.
I look at it like this, I mean, he to me,
you know, I'm not overrating him, but he's at least
a solid professional NFL quarterback, which is way like you know,
like a dark hard for years. Like he's better than him.
And I mean, I think he's at least a guy

(02:20:23):
you can put out there not embarrass yourself, and you
put a decent team around him. Now the question is
can you put a decent team around him. I mean,
Bowers is obviously tremendous wide receiver wise. They don't really
know if they've been much after that, but I absolutely
think this will help their team a tremendous amount. Obviously,
top brading company want to start winning and at least
I think, you know, third round, like that's not going

(02:20:45):
to kill you, So I kind of I like the
Trevator's point view.

Speaker 2 (02:20:48):
All right, let's dive into Kyle's basketball because it's the
firth day of Cott. We were talking about last regular
season first six. First, why is Duke only ten and
a half? Explain that to me? Because the matchup I
watched the first game. I know it's a jop oil
this year. I don't see how that's going to stay close.

Speaker 6 (02:21:08):
Yeah, well, I mean obviously it shouldn't. But I mean
I guess the reason for that, Anthony. And again, in
your most have one's ratings, you're gonna have Duke ranth
one or two. Okay, North Carolina, it's in various part
of my will, says North Carolina. Anthony has been playing.
Look from the numbers point of view, just my numbers. Sure,
this game should have been close to like fourteen. Okay,

(02:21:30):
but North Carolina has actually been playing better recently. They
really have. They They were atrocious to start the year,
but recently they actually have. This is the team makes
before the year I thought had a chance to be decent,
But they actually have been playing a little better recently.
I think they've won like five or five games in
a row by twenty points or something like that. They

(02:21:50):
actually have been playing a little bit better. But again,
as she said, this is total difference in class. Only
way I came up would be the Duke's side, not
laying it, but because again the rivalry just we know
that it's like the Michigan Ohio State thing. When Michigan
this year came closerven though they shouldn't, maybe just because
to the rivalry, UNC does keep it close. Not a

(02:22:13):
game I'm playing that my lean would be towards Duke.

Speaker 4 (02:22:16):
Let mean, you mentioned Michigan. It's tomorrow, But I got
to ask you about how do you factor a game
rivalry Miskan, Michigan State, that's games at Breslin, But how
do you factor in the fact that the game is
sort of meaningless because the big regular season championship has
already been locked up. So does that give you any
hesitation when you're playing on something?

Speaker 6 (02:22:35):
Yeah? Well again, motivation is such an important part see,
So yeah, I try to deal with games where I
think I know the motivation, you know, at least, even
if I just need to know it from one of
the two sides. I tried it to know that because
I always say, again, we you don't factor that in
and you're and you read it wrong, you could have
a total egg on your hands. So yeah, I much

(02:22:55):
prefer dealing with games where I feel like the motivation
I know is opposed to me getting and how do
I know who's going to play, how many minutes, how
hard they're going to play. Although usually with college I
feel like it's not as bad as in the pros,
which has gotten to the point, I mean if they've
talked about the NBA. I mean, I feel like the
way the players rest or whatnot motivations als like it's
impossible to know who's gonna who's going to do what.

(02:23:17):
But in college usually at least you're going to get
a quote unquote true effort, usually even if it is
a quote unquote non meaningful game.

Speaker 3 (02:23:25):
Uh alburn Alabama again?

Speaker 6 (02:23:28):
Yeah, good one. Yeah, well listen, you know, Alabama to me,
when they've stepped up in class just has not gotten
it done. Now they're getting seven and a half here
on the road, big number, but Albura would be decided.
I'd be looking at not going to touch it. I
thin my numbers made this game close like around eight.

(02:23:50):
It's sitting at seven and a half slash eight. Lean
here would be the Auburn sarbridge. Mostly because Alabama just
to me this year, in these big games, these big spots,
they step up and faced tougher competition time and time again,
Alabama has failed. I leaned towards Auburn.

Speaker 4 (02:24:09):
So talk to me a little bit about Texas A
and M. They're taking on LSU today. It's interesting to
me because they lost a bunch of games in a row,
but they were tough games, right, and then they turned
around and beat Auburn. So where are you on Texas
A and M LSU? Where are you on Texas A
and M in general?

Speaker 2 (02:24:25):
Well?

Speaker 6 (02:24:25):
Tha, look, I mean look at everybody in right now.
I think fifty six or six and a half. I
believe something like that. It's six and a half A
and M. To me, look, they went through a bad
stretch where I think this is a team to me
that offensively, do I think they're good enough to make
a deep run here? Probably not to me. But they

(02:24:48):
are a tough team and they are a team that
I think on any day, and they proved it when
they beat Auburn, like quite easily. They can beat anyone
in anythan data. They went through a tough structure, lost
at home in Tennessee, they lost on the road at
Missippi s If they got blown out. They lost at
home to Vandergilt So that was a really tough little
stretch for them. But this does this is a team
to me that it's had some really nice wins. Again,

(02:25:09):
the Auburn win was incredible. They weren't at Missouri, which
was a really really nice win. They want at all
miss which is a really really nice win. I think
A and M is a good team. I absolutely think
that they are a team that can make a run,
maybe win even two or three games. It wouldn't shock me.
But do I see them as a team to go
win the championship? Probably not, But l issue to me

(02:25:31):
not a team that I really really think too highly
of they have a losing record. I think A and
M would be the only side I'd lay there, but again,
didn't quite make my numbers. I fought one should be
about seven and a half. At six and a half, all.

Speaker 3 (02:25:46):
Right, so how do you how are you approaching today?
You got it?

Speaker 2 (02:25:49):
There's a million conference tournaments, yeah, on their way and
like all these other games, what do you got going on?

Speaker 6 (02:25:55):
Well, it's interesting, and I do I always hate taking
the road teams in college, I really do. So there
are a couple of teams that actually do like today
one again, Missouri Kentucky. I have these teams in my
ratings literally ranked. When I say dead even, I mean
dead even. You take five and a half with Kentucky

(02:26:16):
against Missouri. I just again, I can't make a teams.
I think debt even. I'm not given five and a
half for home court. I think Missouri will win the game,
But I think these teams are even. I'm gonna you know,
I'm gonna take Kentucky getting five and a half. I
think that line is at least a point and a
half too high. I think that's just a little bit
too high, As I said another one bailer to me

(02:26:39):
has been you know, kind of like North Carolina, a
very disappointing team. I just think they're awful. I do
nothing about ballerun like and while I do not, Houston
is a team that I do not think is quite
as good as maybe as others do. I think Houston
laying four and a half is a very reasonable spot
for a teams I do trust always give a professional
effort against the banner team. I just don't thinks very good.

(02:27:01):
And here I will take a home team. Arkansas's around
a picker laying one against the City State at home.
Arkansas needs this game for blood. This is where Kyle
Perry Tree shines these big games. I think they win
a close game again, and I think it's a bad number,
but I think Arkansas wins a close game at home
against the City States.

Speaker 4 (02:27:19):
So walk me through how you're going to approach conference
championship week because obviously we won't talk to you until
Saturday of next week. So are there any teams that
you're looking at right now saying, Man, I really like
people are sleeping on them. They can make a run
through the conference tournament. Like there's there's some opportunity or
money to be made in any of these like are
the things that stand out to you going into it?

Speaker 3 (02:27:39):
Not?

Speaker 6 (02:27:39):
Not really you know what I said to Anthony Befoust again,
especially with some of these bigger conference things that seem
like I'm talking to the SEC big ten, you know,
conferences like that, there's a situation where the motivation where
let's put like like a like a like a duke.
Do they you know, do they want to play four
games in four ds?

Speaker 4 (02:27:59):
Just they do they need to do that?

Speaker 6 (02:28:01):
Like they really not that They're not trying to ever lose.
I'm not saying ever that, but sometimes I feel like
they don't want to. It's like putting a you know,
if you take your car on along road trip, you know,
you don't want to put the miles off. So whether
you rent the car or whatever, So I don't want
to put that many miles on my car. Maybe they
don't want to put that many miles in their on
the players where say, all right, if we lose there,
we get a week off to rest, recover, get our

(02:28:24):
minds and body.

Speaker 4 (02:28:25):
Right.

Speaker 6 (02:28:25):
That's not the worst thing so to me, much more
than these conference tournaments, I far prefer the true tournament. Okay,
in terms of handicapping. And also now in terms of
the smaller tournaments that ones were only one team is
going to get in, you know, like the Missouri Valley
Conference or something like that. Those are ones. Again. I

(02:28:46):
like to live bet much more so than Bennett. Before
the game. If I see a situation we're a live
beat opportunity for a team that I in the game
where to must win for both teams, then I have
more confidence. Uh watching was posted again the motivation. She's
sometimes a little murky in these conference tournament games, so
it makes me I try to put my money into

(02:29:07):
I'm a little more confident in.

Speaker 3 (02:29:10):
All right, so anything in the association and then I do, Okay.

Speaker 6 (02:29:15):
I'm gonna give you I'll make real quick.

Speaker 3 (02:29:17):
I'd love that.

Speaker 6 (02:29:18):
One of my favorite props of the year. You heard
me gave me a liw it over five and a
half asis. I bet this like seven times last night,
thirty seven and fifteen and over five and a half sis.
I was taking big odds, which I never understand that line.
As long as I live again, this number should be
closer to seven lowered over five and alphesis bet is
an incredible bet. Franz Wagner's over three and emphasis getting

(02:29:40):
juiced to he's thirty and fourteen of that over guy's
going over two or three times. You want to give
me plus some money on it, Sure, I'll take it.
And then straight games. I like Bronaldane three and a
half at home against the Wizards. I think I have
a better team. They rested, They're going to probably rest
quickly at night. But I do like the raptor's length
they have at home. Lakers. I like them getting seven

(02:30:02):
and a half against Boston our zingest questionable, true holiday questionable.
I don't care however it shakes out. I think the
Lakers hid them within seven and a half and the
Pistons taking six manth at the Warriors. Love what the
Pistons of them this year. They played great every single game.
Warriors the better team yet, but Detroit I say they
keep close.

Speaker 3 (02:30:21):
Yeah, I agree. I love this Pistons team.

Speaker 6 (02:30:23):
They've played so consistent. Anthony, again, you want to put
a place to put your money in that they're to
me plots season. They may not do anything, but regl
season that's probably been like my best team I've bet
on this year. They get a good effort, They play
hard every night, and you're way ahead of the game.
If your team plays hard every night in today's day
and age, you're so far ahead of the game.

Speaker 3 (02:30:42):
Yeah, hey, real quick, just to put a ball on
this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (02:30:45):
So free agency, how will that will impact your futures?
You're like the minute like you hear stuff coming out
and kind of move.

Speaker 6 (02:30:56):
I mean a NFL well, you know, I mean, I don't,
to be honest anything, I don't think there's any one
specific player, and I'm just being honest. It's just like
a you know that it's a huge like if Miles
Garrett were to be traded, that would be something that
would affect me, okay, more so than any specific creation.

(02:31:17):
I don't know if I see there's one player that's
really going to be that much of a difference maker.
I see, you know, I see the list. You know,
Bosa got released, Okay, but he got released for a reason.
He's not the same player that he once was. So
for me, look, I'll be monitoring it, and it'll it
actually absolutely factors in.

Speaker 1 (02:31:35):
But.

Speaker 6 (02:31:37):
Not as much this year is maybe some other years
where there's really a one or two or three guys
I think could be true difference makers. Maybe Devonte Adams
can help a team charges the team I'm looking at
if they were to get someone like him, you know,
maybe I wait, sorry, they got they got a good
receiver which they needed to help Lad McConkie and Justin Herbert.
But I'll have to be monitoring it. But I don't

(02:31:57):
think it's quite as important this year as in years past.

Speaker 3 (02:31:59):
Potentially, gotcha?

Speaker 2 (02:32:01):
All right, my brother, great stuff as always, man, Good
luck to you this weekend, and then next week it's
on watch your weekend. Alright, all right, Fitty and I
will take Quatia will come right back to wrap it
up right here, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (02:32:22):
That's how I feel about college basketball now today, at
the end of the college basketball did you miss it
this week? I'm going to the Yukon game this afternoon.
Uh really seenhole? Yukon going to be there.

Speaker 3 (02:32:34):
Let's go nice.

Speaker 4 (02:32:36):
Shout out to our wonderful Fox Sports Radio family for
helping me get some tickets. It was a possible ticket
up here, but it is a Fox game. So I
reached out to some people in Fox Sports Radio and
pay them. What do you know, I was able to
get some help. So shout out to the bosses for
helping me.

Speaker 3 (02:32:51):
Oh that's good man. What happened to them?

Speaker 4 (02:32:55):
What they are a mystery, I honestly, and you know,
I talked to Alice Caraman for Yahoo Sports a couple
of weeks ago, and he talked a lot about, you know,
his own shooting troubles and trying to figure out, you know,
how to fix that with coaches and maintaining his confidence
for leadership. I think what you had here was a

(02:33:17):
group of guys that were supposed to, you know, supposed
to graduate into leadership roles and a bunch of young
guys that were going to come in and automatically fill
the gaps. And last year that worked and everybody doubted
him last year, so you felt like, man, can't do
that this year. Well, between the fact that Caraman hasn't
shot particularly well and the team has been really inconsistent
with some of this stuff. Like the hard part is

(02:33:38):
that the best of Yukon on any given night can
beat anybody, but they haven't been able to consistently put
the best of themselves out there. I think this is
a little bit like I this is said with a
lot of difference and respect to Alex, So I think
it's been a really good player. I'm not sure every
great player is necessarily meant to be also sort of
the main feature of the locker room, you know what

(02:33:58):
I mean. So I feel like he was a better
version of himself when he didn't have to also be
the leader in some ways. And I think that, you know,
Yukon probably felt the loss of everybody that headed to
the league. Like it's just all these pieces came together
at once. I feel like we're gonna say, oh, you
don't want to face this Yukon team in the tournament.
They have so much experience, but they've just been not

(02:34:18):
good this year.

Speaker 3 (02:34:19):
Not good. No, I yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (02:34:23):
It's to the point where I go, Yeah, I felt
almost as of a couple of weeks ago, I felt
you know, I still think maybe a dark horse, but
they just the Marquette game that showed a lie.

Speaker 3 (02:34:38):
I was like, they just don't have it.

Speaker 4 (02:34:42):
No, And I don't know this late in the season,
like if it hasn't come together now, I just don't
see how it suddenly comes together, and especially as poorly
as they've shot at times. So it just just just
feels like a lost year for them.

Speaker 2 (02:34:58):
Yeah, Yeah, It's funny, h picking the brain's brain when
it comes to this stuff, because I always thought the
conference tournaments where I like a team that gets hot
and they could carry it. Speaking to Yukon, I mean,
how many times do they do that where you get
hot during the tournament and you ride it right into

(02:35:19):
the NC double lot.

Speaker 4 (02:35:21):
Yeah, and that's maybe this is sort of the big
moment that turns around for Yukon. But I don't know.
I keep watching these It's, you know, to use the
dreaded eye test conversation. If you spend a few minutes
watching you know, the SEC, and you spend a few
minutes watching the best of the Big ten this year,
and then you turn around to watch Yukon, You're like, yeah,
they just don't have that same level of everything from

(02:35:45):
the spacing on the floor to the way that they
attack it to the inability to inbound the ball sometimes,
Like it's just yeah, it's all over the place for them.

Speaker 2 (02:35:53):
And believe me, I know how good the SEC is,
all right, and I know that the ACC isn't what
you to me, it's not very good, But you still
can't convince me that Duke's not way better.

Speaker 3 (02:36:06):
I mean, I don't like go, I'll burn a ton,
but I I just don't know how they that team loses.

Speaker 4 (02:36:14):
Yeah, I mean that that Duke team, especially my god,
Like not everybody lives up to the hype. So I
don't want to take it for granted that Cooper Flag is.
I mean, it's just it's historic and it's a it's
just a damn shame that he's going to be won
and done for for the sport.

Speaker 2 (02:36:30):
I know, I wish he came back so bad, you know,
when he was talking about coming back, I mean, I
don't know. I mean, you know, you're going to get paid,
so it's not like you know, and I get that,
I get it.

Speaker 3 (02:36:42):
He's so good. He's so good.

Speaker 2 (02:36:45):
Cooper Flag is so good and it's amazing you He's
almost underrated. Like as the season's going on, he's gotten
better and better and better just and and by leaps
and bounds.

Speaker 3 (02:36:58):
It's it's it's wild.

Speaker 4 (02:37:01):
Yeah, And you know when you think about such a
limited amount of time and the legacy stamp that he
has made in that amount of time. Like I heard
Seth Greenberg the other day when I asked, like, who
are is comps in the NBA and he said, he's
got a little bit of Grant hitlling him, a little
bit of Scottie Pippin in him. And I just kept
naming player after player after player his size, his length,
his ability to shoot. And then also it's just it's staggering, staggering,

(02:37:25):
I know.

Speaker 3 (02:37:25):
All right, Last thing, real quick, big Eddy prediction for Monday.

Speaker 4 (02:37:32):
Uh, Sam Donald to the Seahawks.

Speaker 3 (02:37:34):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (02:37:35):
I think they got rid of Geno because they know
that they're going Sam Donald instead.

Speaker 3 (02:37:39):
Yeah, I like that. I like that a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:37:42):
All Right, that's gonna do for us. Thanks to Muddy
Walk and Bree. Thank you guys for haggling with us.
We love you, have a great week. We'll see you
next Saturday.

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