The Fellas With Anthony Gargano & Kevin Figgers Talk Party At The Garden In New York, Preview Nuggets Vs Thunder Game 7, Having Two Teams Is A Violation, And Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Fox Sports Saturday to all across the country.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Where the fellas Kevin Figures.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Anthony garganam as we come live from the Tyraq dot
com studios. Well, it was a garden party figure last night.
It was a very anti climactic night at the garden,
but a joyous one in New York as the Knicks

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finish off the Celtics without Jason Tatum.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Hey, look, you.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Kind of knew this was coming after Game five where
Boston shot the lights out and you know it was
their first game without Tatum, but they shot the ball
really well. You're gonna give tid it's a night to
kind of he's got the Tate. The look what the
offense is gonna look like without Tatum, and the odds

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where they were going to shoot like that any we're
close to that again.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
And the result it was kind of predictable.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I kind of thought the Knicks would win, and I
thought they would win big, and the Knicks slay the Celtics,
and truthfully, I mean it's it's a huge it's a
great win and it's a great upset. But you know,
without when you lose Tatum, I just don't know, you know,
I mean, I you know, I don't want to take

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it away from the Knicks, but I don't know that
the magnitude of the upset, like who would have thought
it without Tatum and changes everything.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, I mean no more so than Minnesota defeating Golden
State without Steph Curry, which is you know, first of all,
you hate to see great players, star players go down
to the postseason. And this is something you and I
talked about on the eve of the playoffs beginning, is
that we're going into the postseason for the first time
in a long time where all the stars were relatively healthy.
So it's unfortunate for the Celtics that they lost Jason Tatum.

(02:07):
But to that point, and we talked about this last
week when the Knicks, I believe at that time we're
up to one in this series. Even with Tatum, Boston
didn't necessarily look great in this series, So once he
went down, you knew it was basically a fada complete
that the Knicks were gonna end up winning it.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
It was just a matter of win.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
I would have said, had Boston found a way to
muster the sort of effort that they had the other
night and won this game last night. Game seven on
the road in Boston definitely would have been interesting, but
they were just overmatched. And the way that the Knicks
played defense this entire series, with or without Tatum, it
was going to be tough sledding for the for the
Celtics to win, even if Tatum were healthy, and once
he went down, you knew it was all over. Game

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five I thought was fairly easy to see coming. You know,
you lose your star player, you're running on adrenaline, your
back home, you know, you get big performances from guys
like Pritchard and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I kind of saw that effort coming.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
But to your point, going back home for the Knicks
in the garden again, the Celtics heading into the conference
finals in twenty plus years, you knew they were gonna
come out with a major effort to come out with
the victory. So I was not the least bit surprised
that the Knicks one and the fact that they won big.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, and let's face it too, right, like yeah, I'm
with you, Like you could you could see it. The
teams come together and then all of a sudden they
have this great night. There's film like, all right, this
is the offense this is gonna look like. And Tims
is a great defensive coach.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Man.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
I mean, I tell you something.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
I love that Knicks team and that they just get
after you defensively.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Man.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
They play hard, the Brunston leads, the way they don't
cheat you out of any possession. They're like that in
a regular season. They're one of the few NBA teams
that never cheat you with effort. They never do. They're
always they're always given max effort to always play defense.

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They rebound. I still don't know how good they are.
I mean, I know they're a good team. I think
I still might like Indiana in that series, but they
got tons of grit there are really lovable that Villanova thing.
I know a lot of those kids, they're terrific. I

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just you know, they're a great story. But fig indianam
is gonna be dangerous.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
They will.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well, I'll say about the Knicks, I mean they're the
quintessential TIBs team. I mean they look like the Chicago
Bulls teams with Derreck Rose and Jimmy Butler and Joakim
Noah and like they play tough the issues with Tips teams,
and this always happens. The deeper they get into the postseason,
the more and more that the attrition catches up with them.
Even last night with the blowout victory and the Celtics

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benching pretty much all their starters in the fourth quarter,
you look up and down an Anobi thirty seven minutes,
Cat thirty five minutes, Brunson thirty five, like TIBs, has
historically runs his guys into the ground and doesn't really
have the deepest rotation, and bruns has been playing through
a bit of an ankle situation.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Towns has been banged up.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
So that's the issue going against in a series against
the Indiana Pasiers, who are arrested, who are a bit younger,
who are most definitely deeper, and really anythink that would
be the reason why, above all else I would like
Indiana in this series over the Knicks is that the
Knicks are going to play their starters upwards of thirty
eight thirty five, you know, forty minutes a night.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Ye, Indiana's deep.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
They can they can run guys at you left and right,
and have so many guys they can throw at Brunson.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
For that reason alone, I like Indiana.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
More.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
I don't want to discount the grip that the Knicks have.
It's tough and it's fun. It's kind of a bit
of a throwback to old school in nineties basketball to
a certain degree. But ultimately I think their lack of
depth is probably what's going to end up costing them
against Indiana.

Speaker 6 (05:48):
Well that's funny because figure not surprised.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
You will like kind of see it very similar. We
often look at the matchups that I think like, uh.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
And it's kind of interesting in that. Dude.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
The last time like these two teams were there was
that nineties in the Night I was covering them.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Saying you were covering that next team? I believe I was.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
I was covering that series.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Man.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
It just brings back like amazing memories of you know,
Reggie Miller and you know, going off in the garden
and I mean it was it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, that was Spree well and Allan Houston.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
I believe those next teams you know Spray Yeah, oh
my god, Spree with Van Gundy.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Oh man, it was uh, it was great start, It
was great theater. Man.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
An interesting team to follow, by the way, with the
personalities around.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, and they were like the Oakley Man.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Something else. I'm sure Chuck was.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Oakley was one of my favorite people ever covered. He
was he was a character. He was a he was
a real character. But they were were they were man,
they were tough. They were a tough team. And it's
interesting because they're like that now right, like they're a
tough team. I got to I love Josh Hart. He
might be my one of my favorite players in the league.

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Josh Hart just does everything. That triple double last night,
he does it all. And Brunson we talked, We touched
this last week. But great forts foresight by the Knicks,
right because I'll never forget they make that offer to Brunson.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Bronson's on Dallas.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
He had like a bit of a coming out party,
if you remember, and they offered him a ton of
money in free agency. And I was like, and I
and I had known Brunson from here, right from Villanova
like this, you know, it's you know, it's a pretty
small community out of here, so and I was like, wow,
and you're rooted for him because he was our local.

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So I was like, I love the kid. He's tough,
he's a really good ball player. But I didn't think
they want like a max contract like they want for
the big money. And boy, were the right man. That kid,
he just he just he's got all the grit in
the world, all the toughness. You know, back in the day,
it was always the New York City point guard, right yep.

(08:23):
And and that's Brunson, man, he's he used to quit
desential one.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
You know, It's funny certain teams win with certain identities.
They kind of you mimic the city. Like if you
go back to the Showtime Lakers, it was flash and
it was up and down and it was Hollywood. Those
Knicks teams were grit and grind and tough, and they
weren't gonna they weren't gonna run up and down the
floor and blow you out.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
They they like to win games ugly.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
The Detroit Pistons, anytime they've ever won, has always been
defense and toughness. Kind of yeah, the mold of the
city of Detroit, and you kind of feel like the
Knicks this way are built the exact same way as
those Knicks teams back in the day.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Is just grit, grind, toughness.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Jalen Bronson, classic overachiever, probably not the most naturally gifted
athlete but works his ass off and is one of
the better players in the NBA despite the fact that
he's not very big, that he's not a great athlete,
but he just really embodies what to your point, the
old school New York point guard, old school New York
basketball is all about. And it's really fun for someone

(09:24):
like me to see, Like, like I said, I believe
I said this last week. Usually when you come of
big market franchises LA New York Boston, you don't have
a lot of fans on the periphery that kind of
jump on the bandwagon. But the Knicks are kind of
a fun team to root for because they're kind of
a workmanlike, tough basketball team. There's not a lot of flash. Hey,
you could identify with them, you really can. You know,

(09:45):
there's no arrogance. It's a kind of an alfra wand
one for all mentality really really hard or easy I
should say to get behind.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, you know it's been I was a little suspect
of Kat and how he fit. And you know, because
I thought they lost a lot right, Like one of
the things that they had last year was was depth, right,
that they had a lot more depth, especially in the
front court, and he's been terrific, you know, even battling

(10:15):
through injury, he's been he's been really good.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
I agree with you. I I like that team. It's funny.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
It's they're immensely unpopular in my neck of the woods,
and rightfully so, you know, Philly they hate them, and
I'm like, and I got a soft spot. I go,
you know, having uh worked up there for a long
time and loving that. I mean, yeah, there's stuff like
the Garden, like on a Friday night, I'm sure a

(10:43):
big Friday night in the spring.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
I mean, the garden pops, you know.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
But I understand.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
I mean, I would think there'd be a little bit
of people being torn in your city because of the
Villanova connection and all.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
The other jealous like they hate it, like I mean,
I get it, but like they hate the fact that
another city is taking like taking quote our kids and
winning with it.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
And a lot of it is.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
The bitterness to do with the the clown show that
is the Sixers.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
I was gonna say, juxtapos what the Knicks are doing
with what the Sixers have and all your hometown guys
is like imagine if the script was flipped and those guys.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Bridges came up big right in one A couple of
games is in the uh in the in the series.
So back in the day when he was drafted, the
Sixers actually drafted him.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
His mom worked for the.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Franchise, so so I probably told you this story, right,
So go to that draft.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
We were all like, all right, you gotta take Bridges.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
You need a wing. You have no wing. And wait,
we all wanted Bridges.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
It's low.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Behold he's there and they draft him, right, so everybody's happy, right, like,
all right, you got it right, like you know, and
this is like during the process kind of days like
they needed there was things were starting to come together,
but they didn't have a wing. They needed like a
three and D kind of guy, and we thought that

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that would be the minimum. I remember saying before the
draft that Michael's minimum what he would be, would be
a three and D guy at worst.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Right, But he had a chance to be to do
to be really good Villanova players because Jay Wright really
excelled and you see it they excel in the NBA, right,
So we're like, oh, it's great. So they draft them
and then oh god, they trade him and they trade

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him to the.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Spur, to the Spur Phoenix.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Actually it was a three team trade the Spur. I
don't know it was a three team trade.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Maybe he ended up in Phoenix. So I don't know
how what the rock.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
But they get they get Miami's unprotected pick and they
get Zire Smith. Now, Zire Smith was like an undersized
small forward who couldn't shoot from San Diego State. I

(13:31):
think San Diego State.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
But anyway, I'm looking at I'm looking at Texas Tech here.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
The reason why San Diego in the mine is because
they compared him to Kawhi Leonard. They thought that he
would become the next Kawhi Leonard, and they were really
enamored by the heat unprotected pick. So they trade bridges. Now, meanwhile,
Michael's mom works for the team. Michale's cousin. He's one

(14:05):
of my dear friends. We work together, Devaon Gibbons. Devon
is what We worked together at the radio station. And
then when I opened up the new digital network in Philly,
I brought Devon with me there and so he used

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to look at dear friends of mine. It's his cousin, right,
So we were like all excited and we got cousin
and is gonna be awesome, and Mcal's gonna be great,
and he's the idiot's trade for Zire Smith. He winds
up getting in the sin. The poor guy gets a
flesh eating disease or something happened.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I think it was a fleshing.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
It hurt his calf and he was just he was
wasn't good and he couldn't check the.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Fracture of the fifth metatarsal in his foot right, and
then he comes but during the healing.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Process, he developed this kind of uh you got there
was an infection, yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
An allergic reaction to ingesting sesame, which complicated issues I'm
looking at here, So a rash of issues, right, and
then that was that and only so like you can imagine,
like you can, and he was just.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Cu shame he just come play, right.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
But like you can imagine, everybody, like the whole town
wanted this. I'm sure other other towns can relate, right,
Like everybody wants draft and they look at it like
we just had the lottery and you go, this is
the guy and we we want this guy, and of
course they screw it up. But that's how they had
Bien Man like, they've screwed up everything. They have failed

(15:50):
in every which way. They're they're a they're a mock
of a team like we we have. It's been a
horrible run with them. Buddy, last night, all right, we're
watching a game and my buddy Boo, right, yes, ye yeah,
Boo texts me and he goes, I hate to say it,

(16:16):
but I'm done with them meeting the Sixers like he
loves the Sixers, right, he said, I'm done with them.
I love them, but I'm done with them ever since
Iverson and I love Ai, but he started it. They
picked the showman over the sport. Look at Indiana, look

(16:39):
at New York. I would have been happy if I
would have been a happy Philadelphia with a team like that.
But we always have to go after the star or
the showman. We got a bunch of idiots who run
our team. We should have given Billy Cunningham a lifetime contract,
just like pat Riley.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
That was last night.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah, I mean, how can you are you against it?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Now? Granted some things and this is Wrother.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
The the Bridges draft story is a really good one,
and talking about Zier Smith and obviously nobody could have
predicted what happened with Smith, But I mean he was
kind of your you know, draft a young kid and
he has all the potential in the world and hopefully
we hit a home run versus A Bridges, who, to
your point was the floor was a three and D
wing who might get you, you know, fifteen points a

(17:26):
game and be able to you know, lock up the
other team's best perimeter player. You know, that's the kind
of player that really is built on winning. That's how
you win championships, That's how you build winning rosters. Yeah,
you can take a swing on a guy, but the
majority of the time those don't end up working out.
And to your point, at the point in time that
they were this was twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen, I believe,

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so you were coming out of the process you had been.
You had Joel Embiid. You need to start putting pieces
around him and not go star searching. And to your point,
it's just and this is a mentality around the NBA,
and I think we're going to get out of this
anthony with the new CBA because you just can't pay
all these guys the whether you used to, with all
the p and the art model. Yeah, the star model

(18:06):
is just not gonna work anymore.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
It's over.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yeah, the Celtics are gonna find that out pretty soon
in a couple of years, if not this upcoming offseason,
Oklahoma City's gonna find that out. You're gonna have to
be smarter about the way that you build your franchises
because if you don't, and you end up paying these
guys a lot of money and now you have three
four guys making fifty million dollars a year, you're just
not gonna be able to feel the roster.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
And you know what, I think, I think it's good
for the game.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I think the over reliance on stars and the over
exposure of those stars, I think it gave the league
a swelve head in that sense, right, like figuratively.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, And it wasn't good.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Like it goes back to I'll never forget the summer
and you'll remember this. You and I were on the
air when Brooklyn gets KD and Ivory and Hardy and
you and I were happened like during a Friday or whatever.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
I think you and I were doing the.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Show the next day and we were like, oh my god,
oh my god. Yeah, it's like all those and they
were an unmitigated disaster, right.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Well, you know, guys couldn't stay healthy, Guys were inconsistent.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
It was a whole.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
One thing that I like about it is the fact
that star players can actually carve out their own niche
and this championship chasing and big threes and all that.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
I've never been a fan of that.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Now going back, it came together organically with the Celtics
years ago with Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce.
There were trades that were made, what have you, But
the Miami Heat and the Heatles are the ones that really.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Started all of this.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
And I never thought it was good for the game
of basketball, and it took a lot of competitive balance
away from the league. Kevin Durant going to the Golden
State Warriors and the Warriors and Cavaliers playing in the
finals for fifteen straight years. I just didn't think that
was good for the sport. I think that's the sign
of a healthy sport is when you have a little
bit of parody, you have star power across the entire
league instead of you know, eight guys playing for three

(20:05):
franchises and basically it's a faded complete as to where
the NBA Finals or the conference finals are going to
be on a year in, year out basis. So for
the health of the league, I think it's actually good
that they put in these new rules and the second,
the first and second second, I'm.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Completely with you, and quite frankly, I think it's better.
It's also smarter to build your team that way, like
you said, because if you look at Miami, like I
think your Golden State was exactly what's wrong with it,
right Miami?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Like Bosh was a good player.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
But he wasn't the star true right, Like he was
a good player, you know, d Rent leaving OKC and
go to Golden State.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
That was that was the dagger.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah, that was Travisty is probably strong, but it was.
It was terrible for the league. You took a team
that the year before had one of the most games
in regular season history, and he went to Game seven
and now they had one of the greatest scorers in
the history of the sport from the team that beat
from the team that beats you. You blew a three
to one lead, by the way in Oklahoma City against
Golden State, and then you joined that team it was

(21:14):
a bad look for Kevin Durant, and it was just
it was a bad result for the league as a whole.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Really, but that one, that one is a tough one
to live down, you know, it really was.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
And well, and he's feeling it now because after he
won a couple of championships, he still got, you know,
a lot of heat on social media from people saying like, well,
you know, you joined a historic team and you know,
the the margin for era was so wide for you guys,
the championships don't mean as much. Kevin Durant is just
he's a perfect example of the modern athletes that has

(21:45):
the what do you call it antenna's up you know, yes,
the burner accounts on social media. He very much goes
off of what other people say, in other people's opinions,
and that's I understand everybody looks at it. They say,
I don't read newspapers or I don't look at social media.
Of course they all do. But you can't necessarily have
an effect the way that you play, the way that
you're performing, the way that your career goes, because you're

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never gonna feel fulfilled if you do that.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yep, yep, I say quick t o. We got another
great game in the West that we're gonna get to.
Oh yeah, playoffs heating up. There is a great hockey
game last night, and I'm burying the lead because a
bulk of the show will be spent on what took
place Wednesday night.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Fig I know, I know you're not shocked at that.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Not in the NFL schedule.

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Speaker 3 (23:10):
A little programming.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Note, FITZI and I will be back together at eight
o'clock eastern, five Pacific, so we'll have a little another
Fellas tomorrow evening because we'll get in on Game seven.
Game seven takes place tomorrow at three point thirty eastern,
twelve thirty Pacific. Denver, OKC and that Denver team, Man,

(23:36):
they're something now they're going to deal with Gordon and
the Gordon injury. But man, I give that that team
a ton of credit.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Considering all they've gone through, the up and down season
that they had this year, firing the head coach and
the general manager at the end of the year, and
people thought that was a death nil. Like they were
not favored to beat the Clippers on by many accounts.
People thought the Clipers would have them in the first round,
and they've kept rolling and Aaron Gordon, to your point,
that's going to be a huge loss even if he

(24:06):
is able to go, He's clearly not going to be
one hundred percent in Game seven, and he has hit
so many big shots for them. Is one of the
few true two way players that they actually have on
the roster, he and Christian Brown probably, so they had
a very narrow chance of winning a Game seven in
Oklahoma City anyway, Although I will say, and you know this,
covering this league young teams that haven't really been tested

(24:28):
home war road in a Game seven is not necessarily
easy for a team like Oklahoma City facing a battle
tested team with a lot of grit and who have
won a championship the last couple of years, but without
one of their best players, potentially Aaron Gordon, and even
if he is in there, not at one hundred percent,
it's going to be tough sledding for them to be
able to get a victory.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
And OKC on the road.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
I have any big shots and big rebounds that Gordon
come up with.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Well, I mean he's directly had what two game winning
shots that not quite buzzer beaters, were pretty darn.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Close to it. Yeah, the put back, the put.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Back against the Clippers, the game winner earlier in the
series here. I mean, so that's gonna be a humongous
loss for them.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Now.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Granted, Nikola Jokic could play like a superstar and get
you know thirty twenty and twenty, but he can't do
it by himself. Like the issue with the Nuggets this
entire series has really been, whether they've won or lost,
is really have to have the role players you know, scored.
Are they making their open shots? Because as good as
Oklahoma City is defensively, Denver is one of the best
offensive teams in the entire league, and when they're on,

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they're hard to stop. The problem is when guys like
Brown and Murray are not making their open shots, which
has happened a few times in the series. That's when
Oklahoma City has been able to pull away and win.
So now one of your key role players is not
even going to be available or not going to be
one hundred percent. That's going to be even more of
a detriment to Denvers, especially offensively.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, I mean it's funny, man.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
Each time I thought that Okay, she would win or
win big and pull away.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Deaver just kept coming back and just making it a game.

Speaker 6 (26:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I'm really impressed by him, really impressed by him.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
I am too, And I think it's a great example
because remember when they fired Michael Malone, people are like,
why would you fire somebody at the end of the season,
the playoffs are getting ready to start. Let them play
it out, let's see what happens. Well, look, they knew
that it was a toxic situation, so staying the status
quo was gonna be bad for the franchise, bad for
the locker room. Move on, now, see if we can
salvage something. See what David Adaman has and at this

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point in time, win or lose. Coming up tonight, David
adam is going to be the head coach of the
team they're gonna move forward. They've already evolved the way
that they played down the stretch of the regular season
into the playoffs. So it just goes to show you,
you know, the franchise is no.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
More than we do.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
So it might not make sense on the surface from
the outside looking in, but on the inside, they knew
exactly how toxic that situation was and knew that making
a change ahead coach could propel them, and it certainly has.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, and you know, we both think obviously it'll be
that Okay he'll win. But you know, I think Denver
obviously taking okay See to seven and it still series
isn't over. You know, they're like Minnesota, I don't think
can do it. And I just don't think Minnesota has

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got enough to play with okay See and to test
them the way Denver has.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah, I mean, Minnesota is long and ragy defensively, so
I think they could present some challenges to Oklahoma City
as far as the Minnesota defensively versus Oklahoma City offensively.
He's core though, Like that's the issue. That's what I
was getting ready to say. Outside of ant they don't
have anybody else that can really kill you consistently. Julius
Randall has had a phenomenal postseason. Yeah, and he's kind

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of shaking the monkey off his back that's been kind
of saddling him throughout his career that he's not a
playoff performer. But look, going up against Chet who's been
up and down himself, and he's a young player, but
against that defense is going to be really, really a
difficult test for him in the front. So unless Anthony
Edwards has like a Dwayne Wade in the NBA Finals
against the Mavericks kind of run, which he's certainly capable

(28:07):
of doing, I agree. If Oklahoma City does end up
winning Game seven, I pretty much see them winning that
next series, probably in five games. I think it's that
much of an advantage to Oklahoma City over Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
It's funny, I have at five too. I could see
to say, with the matchup. It's funny how this sport.
You could see the matchup. You go, yeah, this is
kind of how I like it. It's kind of you know,
we'll say now again, it doesn't mean that that Denver
can't shock the world and go in there and win.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Yeah, if if Denver was fully healthy, if they had
Aaron Gordon at one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
I'll be honest with you, I'd probably take.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Denver on the road against Oklahoma City in Game seven
because they have the experience. You covered the NBA long
enough to know as good as the team is, as
talent as they may be, things get tight. Game sevens
are usually played pretty ugly because teams are tight, you're
not making a lot of open shots. Who makes the
fewest amount of mistakes. I would trust Denver in that
situation more than I would trust Oklahoma City. And even

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without Aaron Gordon, Denver still has a chance to win.
I just don't think that they will. I think they
don't have a lot of depth as it is, and
so when you lose one of your better players, that's
gonna be tough sledding for them. But if Aaron Gordon
were healthy, I think I would actually pick Denver to
win this game.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
I totally see it, totally say it.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, No, I mean a game seven that know how
to navigate it, Yeah, without a doubt. What did you
make of the lottery? Because the lottery happened and everybody
had the conspiracy theory, you know you were in the
belly of it. What was your take, because obviously Luca

(29:43):
goes to the Lakers and somehow miraculously the Mavericks.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Are rewarded with Cooper flag.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
The idea that this is some giant conspiracy theory for
the NBA to give the Mavericks the first overall pick,
I think is one of the most ridiculous things I've
ever heard, especially with the protections in place for the
lottery not to be rigged. There's well, I think it
was twelve media members were actually live in the room
when they drew all the lottery balls. You know, so
there's a lot of eyeballs on exactly what's happening in

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this lottery process, and so not David Stern with the
frozen envelope, the right.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
And mind you, for the Mavericks to actually miss the playoffs,
right for Anthony Davis to get hurt for right, so
that happened, Yeah, you know, I mean, and we would, Joe.
I think, listen, I think there's a small percentage of
people that will jump to it and actually believe it

(30:39):
and argue with you. I think for most of us,
it's just a kind of ironic story, and you play
into that narrative that's always followed the NBA.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Right, right, that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
I mean, there's certain people you're just never going to
convince that we didn't land on the moon, or that
the Earth is flat or.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Whatever theories that they have.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
But if you just look at the it's really hard
to cover something like this up.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
For so many people to be in on the.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Fact that this was a conspiracy for the Mavericks to
get the first overall pick. You realized how many people
have to be tight lipped about that, right thing in
today's environment, especially that would never happen.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
First of all, the gigantic conspiracy theory that in sports,
and you know we used to hear about the NFL. Ah,
it's rigged all that stuff, right, It's the most ridiculous
thing in the world because to your point, people are
inherently rats. Yes, somebody's going to drop and dive, right, like,

(31:35):
that's just how it happens.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
So, look, it's cute and it's convenient, and I understand,
but I think it's just a it's a coincidence. And
by the way, like this is not some anomaly. Ever
since the NBA changed the lottery system to where the
team with the worst record doesn't have I think it
was like a twenty two percent chance to win the lottery.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Now it's down to fourteen.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Note the team with the worst record in the NBA
has not won the draft lottery since they change that rule.
So the system from that standpoint is working distance and
advising tanking making every team that misses the playoffs, giving
them a greater chance of making. You know, Grant at
one point eight percent is astronomically low for a team
to be able to win, but the odds were tilted

(32:16):
away from the favor of the team with the worst
record to win the lottery. So this is not an
anomaly because the team's with less than I think four
or five percent chance, I think three of the last
five years has gotten the first overall pick. So this
is not in the grand scheme all that surprising. It's
just ironic that it happens to be the Dallas Mavericks.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Now do you do you think it's a good thing
now here but the decentivizing uh tanking, But like you
got teams like Charlotte and the Wizards, and do you
just stay bad?

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (32:49):
You know, yeah, I mean, well, there's only so much
you can do about that.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Too.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
I mean, if you, because the problem is you don't
want to have in teams intentionally losing games at the
end of the season because they were start talking about
what we've been complaining about for the last decade.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
As it is.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
So the problem with teams like Charlotte free agents, with
all due respect to our friends in North Carolina, is
not necessarily a destination for players. So the only way
a team like that is going to get good is
either via trade or to win a lottery and get
a generational player. LaMelo Ball is a good player, but
he's not, you know, a generational franchise changer. So I

(33:24):
really don't know how you fix that part of it
for the NBA, But I certainly understand people's issues with
I guess the system from not being able to give
the team with the worst record the greatest chance to week. Look,
you still have a great chance to win the first
overall pick. It's just not almost a guarantee.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Like it used to be.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, but I don't know what you do about franchises
like Charlotte or who are not necessarily destination franchises.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I really do. Oklahoma City's figured it out. Yeah, they've
they've been brilliant. I mean the way they've done it brilliant.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
So there's always a way, But there's a way.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, I agree. I't to say quick to you. O
come right back and.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
We'll give you a little bit more of the lottery
and then I can't wait, Figgy, I can't wait to.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Dive into the schedule. My favorite day was this week.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Man, we'll talk all about it, Fellas Haggin Radio, Fox
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(34:53):
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Speaker 1 (35:00):
Radio videos on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
That's right, Uh, coming up, We're going to go through
the schedule next hour.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
I did yes, w's and.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
L's for every team I did. It was supposed to
be an hour show right Saturday Wednesday night, like to
kick off the Eagle schedule. And because of the beauty
of this new world where you know.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Length is really up to whatever you want to create.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Correct, I went two and a half hours.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
They were like, yeah, we done yet or what like?

Speaker 4 (35:52):
And this was all strictly about the Philadelphia Eagle schedule.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Nobody else.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Well, I mixed in the rest some of the league too, but.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
I was about to say, that's that's extensive.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
Your coverage of their schedule is almost as long as
an actual game.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
That's improving. I have a loser. It doesn't matter. I
don't know what it is. I freaking love the schedule.
You you and I have done this. We have done
this a long time together for years. Yeah, and I
don't know, I mean, you know, you know how I
am this schedule.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Well, and there's people who like they who hate on
the schedule.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
At least I don't understand sitting around for four hours
hearing people break down who's playing in week fourteen and
all that, and it's like, well, first of all, the
NFL is king. We know that they're going to monetize
whatever they can, as they should and the big thing
for most fan base is as the NFL has become
more of a nationwide sport and you have fans of
different teams and different franchises all across the country, it

(36:44):
is really big for a lot of people to find
out logistically, what game can I go to?

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Can I flights?

Speaker 4 (36:49):
It tells all that stuff to know in advanced So
there's people sitting on pins and eagles waiting for that
schedule to drop so they know exactly where their team's
going to be and win so they can travel to
see their s what.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I totally understand the hype around it. I do.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, it's just it's it's just a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
I don't know. I mean it's fun and.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
You know, yeah, who's playing who? And you know, obviously
your your win totals are affected or projected wind totals
are affected by who you're playing and when granted, we
have no idea who's what's who's gonna look like what
on December eighth, obviously, but we can speculate and have
a pretty decent idea based on trends and.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Else with people.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
Ah, it's so stupid to do w's and ls in May.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, You're right, it is. It's to waste the time.
But it's fun, right, it's fun.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, But exactly if you love the sport, then can
we just talk about If you're not that, you know,
don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, do something else.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Nobody's telling you got listen to it. Like we want
to talk about the spot, we want to talk about
the games. Yes, And it's a great excuse to talk
about the games. Like that's how I've always been Like, hey, listen,
there's a clip of Colin talking about the w NBA, right,
Like there's just so much time that we all have, right, right, Hey,
everybody has their own interests, right, so hey listen, if

(38:20):
that's your thing, God bless right, enjoy yourself. I'm not
going to I'm not going to rain on it. Like,
if you like it, that's great. Like you know, for
certain things that you just don't have enough time for,
that you put in the pecking order. But like, talking
about football is fun, right, Like I get it. I
get enjoyment out of that. You're not the only one.

(38:43):
The great majority of people do. I don't know what
the ratings were for at the NFL schedule release. It
was probably higher than for any NBA playoff game. And
we love the NBA, by the way, but that tells
you right there, or if not higher, at least comparable,
that tells you all you need to know the NBA
or the NFL aft the ratings for that. Hey, real quick,

(39:05):
did you catch at eve the hockey game last night?

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Very little? To be honest with you, it was uh.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
I mean, my god, here's here's Toronto, right, you're you
take the first, you gave.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
You the series on the road, right right, Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:24):
And then Florida comes back winsday next three since we
all lots of that, and then you come back and
then you steal game six on the road. It was
nothing nothing, I mean, it was unbelievable. It was an
incredible game. And then Matthews comes through. You know, it

(39:45):
was why he had been shut out the whole series.
This is Austin Matthews.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Yeah, one of the greats you know in the game today.
And it comes up big when it matters the most.
That's what you love about the postseason.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
I know you never know, but man, like you're watching
that and you see like Thursday out the word uh
square in Toronto and they're freaking out. It was awesome story,
a great theater. All right, big al We're coming up
next football football football football football. Well, good morning, good morning,

(40:19):
good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Happy hebby Fox Saturday.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Preaking is Saturday, by the way, It's a great sports Saturday,
May the seventeenth, Kevin Figures, Anthony Gargana fellas every week
right here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, I want to
give a shout out which I brought up the Preakness
fig Uh, my man Southside Chuck a great sportsman himself.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
He's in Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
He's a great loves the ponies, and uh listen, our
heart goes out to every he's been without powers last night.
Oh yeah, I mean everybody did some nasty storms rolling
through uh that entire region, big swath of the country

(41:14):
and between tornadoes and just all the awful weather. Yeah,
so just u our hard oys out to you guys.
Hopefully everybody's safe.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah, it's really tough.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
And Saint Louis, I know there's at least last recording
about five or six fatalities because of the tornado. Really
really devastating. So thoughts and prayers with you guys, for sure.
Be out if you're out there, if you're in the
midst of it, please be safe.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah yeah, uh, all right before we get to the highlights,
because I want to basically go week by week with you, okay,
okay and give highlights of each week. We'll do prime
ten games, international games, you know, stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (41:57):
All right, Sure, we'll go weep, why we I promise
I will do every game you sure.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
I really jones in to talk about that Arizona New
Orleans game in week one, so.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
I know, just like Link.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
Gee, okay, shout out to guy Link by the way.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
I love him. Uh.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Oh my god, I could just hear his voice, you know. Yeah, okay,
all right, you show yourself with the uh the Chargers
did on the Minecraft Genius right freaking awesome bad That
was great stuff.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
You know, find a way to build on top of
something that's huge in pop culture with the film that's
out now one of the most popular video games of
all time. The creativity of that digital team, uh to
put that together. It was really really impressive. And did
you see a Buffalo did too?

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Ai?

Speaker 2 (43:03):
You know?

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Ah, it's fabulous.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
That The Chargers was great, but that might have been
my favorite one. We got to use AI. It's like,
all right, dude.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
It was. It was awesome.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
It was awesome if you guys listening weren't aware of
what the bills did, you know. Basically, it starts a
video that starts with Josh Allen just kind of shooting
hoops and he's talking to Brandon Bean, and Brandon Bean
calls and asks him, you know, hey, you know we're
putting together the schedule these video do you have any ideas?
And Josh Allen says, you know, everybody's using AI nowadays,
use AI. So Brandon Bean is like all right. So

(43:34):
they go through this whole montages like I want to
use AI? How I use AI? And then all of
a sudden, he calls up Alan Iverson to sit down
in like a video conference, and basically he says, yeah,
they wanted us to use AI, so I'm calling you up.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
You're the only AI that I know. It was really
really frea. It was very far.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
It was great AI, greater than Grock, Yeah right, exactly. Yeah,
it was awesome. Yeah, it was that was great stuff.
That was very creative. The U the charges the Minecraft
won so uh they did you know, every opponent, right,

(44:17):
So it was it was great, like.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Just how they how they did it, you know.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
The whole night.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
And then they're playing the Eagles and they did a
big dom as as what's that creature or whatever.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
I've never played Minecraft, so like the actual specific references
I necessarily get, so I can't.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
But the Big dom is the Big is the greatest.
I was cracking up. He had on a screen. I
saw him the other night and He's like, dude, look
at did you see this. I'm like, yeah, yeah, he's
He's like, this is hysterical. It was funny.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, all right, you ready to indulge me? All right?

Speaker 6 (44:57):
I know where you're starting, all right, we're star arding
Week one Eagles and Dallas to kick off the season.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Yes you do, and.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Listen, I know nobody wants to hear about your teams
and all that stuff, so you know, I'm trying to
I'm trying to just say bear with me to everybody,
but I freaking love starting the season with the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
And the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Don't like now this are the rivalry may be one sided,
although now I'm not so sure because I think there's
a good bit of hatred for the Cowboys just against
the Eagles, right, Yeah, this is like my dream.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
I think Eagles will have ring ceremony ring night when
the Cowboys are in down.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yes, how do you beat that? Yes?

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Like this is our dream.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Like so I grew up in child of the eighties, right,
and so the Cowboys they were already America's team, right
with Stallbach and Door set the whole thing. And then
the nineties happens, right, and then it's Hervin and Akman
and Emmen.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Right, the whole nine.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
And like in my town, and Eagles hadn't won a
Super Bowl. They were a half of a joke of
a team. And there were so many Cowboys fans, like
in my area, and they used to kill the Eagles. Like,
you know, I'm growing up and imagine like your neighbors

(46:35):
are these.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Rats, Yeah, in your own neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
That ridiculous, Yes.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
And they walk around And it's funny because I never
even before I got the business, and I was a kid. Yeah,
when I was in college, I used to work for
an airline and we used to fly for free. So
one year we did the Eagles. We went to Eagles
Dallas in Dallas and you know, again that was old
Texas Stadium.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
The whole thing.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
And you know, I've never had anything against Cowboy fans.
It was like, you're from Texas, you should be a
Cowboys fan, Like I get it, like you know, I mean,
I would be proud of my team too, and they
were never It was it was the people that had
never set foot in Texas who were Cowboy fans that
I hated. Yeah, they were obnoxious. Stick the chest area.

(47:28):
Yeah yeah, you're living in Philadelphia and you're a Cowboys fan.
He walk around with it with the white mock turtle underneath,
the white jerseyy, the Irvin jersey.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Oh, the hat of the star. Oh my god. They
hated it. Disgusting. It was.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
I mean, you know, my older cousin is a Celtics
fan who born and raised in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
I was like, I love you, but you disgusted me. Yes,
to this day, you disgusted me exactly.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
But how in the world could you be a Celtics
fan in LA or Philadelphia.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
He caught himself as being a rebel or wanting to
be different and didn't want to jump on the back.
It's not a bandwagon. That's your hometown. What are you
talking about? What do you do?

Speaker 2 (48:10):
It's your it's your We've talked about this many times
on the show, and I'll always have this fight. It's
your civic duty to root for your home team. Yeah,
it's a free country. Well yeah it is. But here's
the point. You are from an area. If your area
has a team and you grow up in that era,

(48:33):
I'm not talking about you lived there for a couple
of years or you're in and out, or I'm talking
about to those people that grew up in a city
or a town, whatever, and you stayed there and that's
your town.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
You have to root for your that team.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
It's part of your civic pride, it's part of your
it's your civic duty to root for your home team.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
It represents your town, your city.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
The pushback there, yeah, and I would say, look, if
you don't like the direction your team is going in,
you could be openly critical of them. Like I use
myself as an example. People who know and have listened
to me over the years know that I'm an Angel fan.
No one talks more trash about the Angels and their
owner Artio Mourno than I do. But it's because I
care and I want you for Logize to win and succeed.

(49:20):
I'm not gonna jump off and say I'm not a
fan anymore. I'm not a fan of ownership. And I'll
say this, Anthony, I'm not going to a game because
I don't want to put money in that owner's pockets.
But I watch the team, I support the players. But
I'm not gonna jump off and say that my fandom
is totally gone.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
No, dude, that's exactly right. That's exactly how you should be.
You love them. You're making a statement, right, but no,
you love them and that's your team. And as much
as you know, you're not gonna suddenly turn into I
don't know, a Mariners fan, right, Like, absolutely, you're not

(49:57):
doing that or anybody that's any good. Oh, I'm a
Red Sox fan, you know, like when when the Red
Sox started to win titles, all of a sudden, everybody
was a Red.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Sox fan, right exactly.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
The only time I'll give license to someone for switching
allegiances is if your franchise leaves.

Speaker 7 (50:14):
Ye.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
If you are a if you happen to be a
Raider fan in Oakland and they left Vegas and you
think they turned their back on the city or whatever,
and you want to join another team. I'm all, I'm
all on board because in that sense, they turn their
backs on you, so you can turn your back on them.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
I have no problem with that.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Yep, spot on, it's spot on correct.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Or Yeah, Or to your point, if you grew up
in Los Angeles for twenty plus years and there was
no NFL team, you had license to jump on to
become a fan of another franchise because you didn't have
a team here.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Right exactly.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
But if you're from the town or a town that's reasonable,
reasonably close to a franchise, right like, you gotta be
that you got the root for that team.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I'm sorry, that's it.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
You know, it's because because what you're rooting for is
not just the laundry. It's rooting for yourself and your town,
your people.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
The sports franchises oftentimes represent the city.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah, that's exactly, That's exactly what it's about.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
So as an Eagles fan, a lifelong Eagles fan, and
having it to deal with cowboy fans rubbing it in
my face.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
So I used to hear from there will be all
these cowboy like cowboy dave. I used to have four
cowboy daves called far different. I would have this, Okay,
I would call them cowboys cowboy Dave one Roman numeral
two row manumeraal three, right, and then I would have
captain Cowboy right like all these guys and they would

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be at Eagle steak, never gonna win. We got rings?
You got no rings on the pigeons like they would
just crush brother, like you got nothing to say.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Right.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
And now, as my buddy Brian Boldanger points out to
me and he sent me a text, and he's like, dude,
how great is this? Since two thousand, the last time
the Eagles and Cowboys opened the NFL season, they played
on an opening week, the Cowboys have been to the

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playoffs ten times. They have been to the NFC Championship
Game zero times.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Big wus eg yep.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
The Eagles have been to the playoffs seventeen times.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
They have been to it was it eight championship games.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
So many championship games they got to four in a
row or something like that with the McNab years, you.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Know, yea, and they falls and they've been to four
Super Bowls and have won two. So I believe over
this twenty five year stretch, the Eagles are right there
with the Cowboys historically, and I have surpassed them as

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the model franchise.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Well not only, I mean the Eagles have passed them.
Kansas City's passed them, right, the Cowboys of being America's team.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I know they get eyeballs.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
I even heard a Fox executive talk about this earlier
this week, talking about the schedule release and how they
intentionally did not want the Cowboys to be in as
many four to twenty five Fox TV slots as they
have been in recent past. One because they haven't been
as good, and two because there's just not a clamoring
for them like there used to be, Like their fans
are as saying I'm tired tired of the Cowboys playing

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at four twenty five every week.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Well, but then how come they're won all these national
TV games.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
That's a good question.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
Now, Thanksgiving and Christmas this year, by the way, they
have the second most national telvised games behind Kansas City games.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
It's one of my beefs. I'm going, all right, yeah,
I don't know where you stand. We argued last year.
Now I don't know where you stand this year. But
I got a buddy of mine who covers the Eagles
for my network and he he finks the Cowboys will
be the second best team in the division, that the

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Cowboys will overtake Washington, which I would disagree with.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
But what was his basis for saying that, By the way,
I'm curious or did he have times.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Washington takes a step back.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
He thinks the and he loves the Cowboys, not as
a fan, he loves the way they're put together.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
I don't say it.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Well.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
He gave me me a argument that you and Fitzy
gaming last year, which was, you know, with Dak healthy,
they win twelve straight games. That's what they do. They
win games.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
Look well, Look, certainly adding George Pickens along with Ceedee
Lamb doesn't hurt their calls. Offensively, still don't have a
running game. You're turning over I think three fifths of
your offensive line. So I don't think the Cowboys are
going to be terrible, But to say that they're going
to surpass Washington, I don't necessarily see that. I think
the Cowboys would be competitive, and if you want to,
I can be convinced that they can knock on the

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door of a wild card potentially, But I would agree,
but I don't think there were anything special.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
I would agree not with that, Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Yeah, that backfield is not doing much for me.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
And it's not like you have just a giant, you know,
road graders up front offense on the offensive line, like
it doesn't matter who the running back is.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
So that's the issue with me. I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
I'm with you, and honestly, and I mentioned this last
week and I'm going to keep hammering it home until
hopefully he proves me wrong. I guess if you're a
Cowboy fan, you're downgraded a head coach. Say what you
want about Mike McCarthy, he's one of the better regular
season coaches in the NFL. And Brian Schottenhamer couldn't get
a sniff at a head coaching position fifteen years he's

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been an assistant.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I get it. It's Jerry. It's a Jerry power move
once again. Guess you're right. That's exactly what it is.
Is someone that Jerry can control.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Yeah, anyway, I love it all. You gotta watch us
raise it batter all right, Yeah, you gotta watch us,
and it's gonna be a party like for us, it's
gonna be a huge party in Philadelphia to kick off
the NFL season that Thursday night Eagles and Cowboys, and

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then Friday we go back to Brazil. Do you like
the Brazil the Friday night Brazil game?

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Uh? Yeah, I mean I love the last year.

Speaker 4 (56:40):
Obviously it was a good success with the Packers and
the Eagles doing it last season on that Friday night.
I still don't necessarily like the fact that home games
are being taken away from certain franchises, but I know
the NFL is trying to grow the sport globally, so
I understand it.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
I find it interesting.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
And apparently the Chargers chose not to protect this Kansas
City matchup, and that's what allowed a divisional game.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Because we talked about this last week.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
How can a divisional game be one of these international
games because the divisional games are so important. The Chargers
have the option to protect this game against Kansas City.
They chose not to, so they're giving up a home
game at so Far to play against Kansas City in Salapolo.
So I find that to be interesting. But anyway to
find a way to grow the game, get more eyeballs
on the game, it makes sense to me. So I
don't have a huge objection to it other than the

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local markets losing out on a home game.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Yeah yeah, I would agree it should be a great game.
I love hardball. And then you got so Chiefs Chargers
from Brazil. I like the Friday like I love. I mean,
the NFL just does things correctly, right, Like you get
to start the season on a Thursday at Ady Club,

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right back on a Friday, right then and Sunday Monday.
Like that's just a way. That's the way that you know,
it's a power boot, right And I.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
Trust issues they play on Saturday too, say, hey, take
it on the chin. College football, we don't care, right right.
They don't play on Saturdays because they basically can't. That's
the only reason why they don't do it right.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
And I respect, I like I actually it's the one
day I like to keep sacred.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Oh, I agree, I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
There's there's a small part of me that kind of
wishes they would have left Christmas alone. I would have
done it too, by the way, if I were them
from a standpoint, thousand percent agreed. But man, the NBA
has nothing, They literally nothing to themselves. That was their
day to shine and pull them you know why.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
The way you say, is so right?

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Like true? Like the I b a a guy.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
You had had Christmas right, it was like, oh Christmas
and you can you see the little NBA thing with
the Santa hat on it and the logo right like
you're like all right, you know and and you know
I to watch obviously, right, like I would always have
it on, yeah, if.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
It was on in the background there you know, those
games literally all day from morning to night.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
I love whatever exactly, and I truthfully I love sports
and holidays.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
I just I don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
The family watches like we're sports people, so we love it, right,
so we watch it. It's you know, yeah, we watch
our Christmas movies and everything else. But it was funny.
It was arguing with a buddy of mine. He's like,
I go, what do you watch? Because I have the
log on? You know the log?

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Oh you a log and then the log on a
five hour loop or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Right, I go, you got the log? You guys watch
a log. He was on a fireplace. So we have
the log on and we have music, and I got
I guess that's nice.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
But I mean, you know what the music, I'm fine.
Games you gets are music on and have the game
on mute and still have a game on.

Speaker 6 (59:55):
Right, you don't have to watch a log exactly. I
don't want to have watched a log.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Well, man, he's watching the lock. My man violates Greg.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Come on, yeah, that's that's Uh. I'm not feeling that one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
No, I can't watch a lock that the game's on anyway,
Like we're watching like you're right, we were watching NBA
and any NFL just comes over and goes you know,
I think we want to own Christmas, right, Like they
just come in and they just slapping on the table.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
And then the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
And the greatest is it doesn't even truly matter what
game they put on.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
It will destroy the NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Does not matter whatsoever. It could be Jacksonville and New Orleans. Yeah,
and it will get better ratings than anything the NBA
will put on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
I know. I know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Well we'll get to those games because quite frankly, I'm
not a fan of the Christmas Day slate.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
Really yeah, I'm intrigue. I actually am.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Okay, good, we'll talk about it because I'm actually pissed
off about it, to be honest with you. Okay, we're
the fellas Kevin figures Anthony guarg I don't hanging out
right here talking Christmas in May on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, welcome back, Figure, I need you for a

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second here from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Fellas, So
Patrick sent for Brianna. All right, now, Patrick and Money
Mark of course doing his great job as always. So Patrick,
we were talking about this. He grew up in La

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all right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Oh yeah, I know where this is going, you already huh?

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
So all right, so he gets a pass that he's
a he's a fan free agent, correct?

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
How old were you when the Rams moved back?

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Patrick?

Speaker 6 (01:01:55):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (01:01:56):
That was what twenty fourteen, so we're looking I was nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
All right.

Speaker 6 (01:02:01):
I mean your formative years were spent without a squad.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
Yeah, you're an adult at that point. Yeah, so you're
you're a free agent. I give you free agent status.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
The only thing that's weird about you, and let me
run this by fake, is that his dad is from Minnesota. Right,
So he's a Vikings man. So of course his father,
like any good football man, wants his son to root
for his team. Correct, like your dad, you get it.

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So then he plays flag football and he plays for
the Seahawks, right, And then he becomes a Seahawks fan.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
Yes, yeah, we've had this discussion.

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
You know there's an issue here.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
And then he says to me, well Sheeahawks or my
number one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
By a hair.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
I'm like, you can't root for two teams. You don't
get two teams, you don't get two wives, you don't
get two teams.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
Well, it depends on what state you live in, but
I will say you get two teams. They have two
teams at the very least. I'm not a fan of
the two teams. They gotta be in copper conferences, right, Like,
I mean, there have been playoff games. There was an
epic playoff game where you know, the the Seahawks play
at the Vikings and like, how do you where's your
allegiance at that point?

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Pat?

Speaker 8 (01:03:33):
So like I've had this whole debate before, Like like
I've had this with Mike Harmone, Jason Smith. Like they're like, Patrick,
tell me Seahawks Vikings in the NFC championship winner goes
to the Super Bowl, who do you pick? And I
literally wipe my hands of it and say I'm happy
with whoever wins, because.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
That's a cop out. That's real.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
No, it's not stupid, stupid, it's type fair, anti American,
it's horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
I know I'm happy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
For Gayzy. That's a for gazy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Come on, bro, now, let me throw something at you.
And going back to our example of growing up and
if you grow born in the city that has a
team and you have to be a fan.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
So to use pats.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Example as father, Minnesota guy bestowed that down onto his
son to be a Vikings fan. You know that I'm
a Raider fan going back to their LA Raider days.
So my son now, who just turned one, I would
love for him to grow up to be a Raider fan.
But in his formative years, he's gonna have two options
in the LA market to choose from. Is it a

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violation if I raise him as a Raider fan knowing
that there are two franchises in the city of Los Angeles?

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
No, okay, So I get the bloodline rule.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Okay, okay, it's a save fit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Like it's true, like right, so, uh, you want your
roots in your in your family tree, go to a
point where there was no team, so it's like you
follow that bloodline. So I'm getting my dual citizenship right

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with Italy so I can have a you know, the
Italian passport and you know whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
So all of my families from Italy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
So but you follow the bloodline to get your to
get your citizenship, like you know, so you've have I
have four sets of grandparents, they're all from different regions.
So it goes back just like that, it goes back
to the bloodline. So I have no issue whatsoever of

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you raising your son, your boy to be a Now
you must accept the only thing that if he chooses
right Rams or Chargers, I gotta allow it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Yeah, and I will.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
I wouldn't be I mean, it's not the best that
the Chargers will be a Raider rival and he picked them.
But I will certainly understand it because at that point
in time, you know, by the time he's old enough
to determine what team he wants to be a fan of,
both of those teams will be back here well established
for probably you know, well for well over a decade,
fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
So I'll have no qualms about him choosing one of
the local teams for sure. So I wouldn't hold that
against them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Now it's like, now there's a violation on my mathsam
of my son.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Oh really, I didn't know about this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Now, I'm not going to say he's not an Eagles fan,
m but he's a bit of a sympathizer.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
With whom the chiefs. Really Yeah, why is that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Well, well, you know we're close with Spags. Yeah, and
so he you know, I mean he calls him uncles bags, right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
So that's hard when you have a personal relationship. Well
but he and he.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Loves my homes, which is another violation. Well yeah, because
here's what he is now, Like I do believe now
he was rooting Eagles because we were all together, right,
so I have no it wasn't like he was rooting cheese.
But he's like a sympathizer. Well, he kind of gave
the Patrick. Now he's twelve, but he kind of gave

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a Patrick kind of answer. Well, you know, I mean
it doesn't matter. Like I'm like, what, I was about
to ban him from watching the super Bowl with us,
all right, we all went over my buddy's Teucha's house, right,
the whole family's right, my cousin, his family and my wife, me, everybody,

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and I was going to have Mosmo have to go
up to watch the gate. Yes, because he was like, well,
you know, whatever happens happens, like like no, no, like
what are you nuts? Like and you know Bart's too,
He's spoiled. You know, the Eagles have wanted True to

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win now twice. I'm like, I spent my whole life.
I haven't seen him win, right, and all of a sudden,
you're lucky bastard.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
And then and then to give to well, you know,
because he plays quarterback and he lost my homes. I'm like,
that's fine, but you got It's not like you've got
a quarterback or steaks. You got Jalen Hurts, right, and
he'll rip Jalen for what like like he like my

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home is way better and all this other stuff. Well, like, dude,
you're the height of being twelve years old. This is
where you're fandom. You gotta be an Eagle fan to death.
I don't like it. It's a Patrick move.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
Yeah, I don't know if it's quite a Patrick move,
because I mean we are in the era two with
kids now, where you have a you're a fan of
a team, but they also follow individual players.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
They like players too.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
I like players too, saying I loved like magic growing up, right,
Like I know what magic and bird and Elijah One.
I mean, I love watching those guys play, and I loved,
you know, seeing them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
But I was a Sixer fan.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Right and you were not certainly never torn if your
team played against them, you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Knew where your elitians lied at.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
I love watching them play, like I was a fan
of this. I love Jordan right like I love Jordan.
But it wasn't like I was like, oh, you know,
I would root for Jordan in the file and the
Sixers weren't playing, you know, But I mean, come on,
I won't see it if I didn't call myself a
Bulls fan.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Yeah, it's also rough.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
I mean, if you're a Moss and you're playing the
quarter of the quarterback position, you're gonna try idolize and
look up to the person that plays it at the
highest level.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
So it would make sense. And we love, we love Jalen.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
Jalen's a good player and all that, but he's not
Pat Patrick Mahomes obviously, So if you want to be
able to reach that level, then I understand that you
would follow and to a certain degree idolize someone who has,
to lack of a better it's ourn master at the position,
which to a certain degree of Patrick Mahomes has done
in his short career. So I certainly understand his admiration

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for Patrick Mahomes, but not to where it's to the
detriment Rob's fandom of the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
That's the part that I can't get with.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
But I'm all for him idolizing Mahomes and wanting to
be like him, play like him, whatever it is, because
why wouldn't he.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
I mean, don't go easier on my uncle fake.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
By the way, I'm complimenting a chief. You know how
hard that is for me. I know, there's no franchise
I hate more than the Kansas City Chiefs. I know,
but I gotta recognize, recognize greatness.

Speaker 6 (01:10:58):
When you see it, I know, real quick. Getting back
to the Christmas Day and then we'll go through all
the schedule.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
But my man Nikki from one of our finalisteners says
that we over sell the holiday like we kill the holiday.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Is towards football on Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
He said, I'm not going to go the log route
like I was saying, yeah, but that the Christmas games
force you to pay attention like football itself forces you
away from the people in the holiday and more towards
paid attention to the gate.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
He's not wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
I mean, especially if you look at this coming Christmas,
where basically every single window that you have during the
regular season doing a standard Sunday is going to be filled.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
On that Thursday.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
You got Dallas Washington in at one o'clock eastern, you
got Detroit, Minnesota, what's that four thirty eastern, and then
you have a night game Kansas City and Denver. So
it's literally football all day long, especially if you're on
the West coast, you know, ten o'clock in the morning.
If you're East coast and it's one pm, you know,
kids can open their presence.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
You can do it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
You're right, we have Christmas morning.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Right if you're on the West coast and the game
kicks off at ten o'clock in the morning, he's like,
all right, son, open your gifts now, because in about
an hour or so it's done for you know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
So I certainly understand there's that you want.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
A little bit of sports to a degree, but you
also want to allow it to breathe Like Christmas Eve,
generally speaking, is an extremely light day on the sports calendar.
Over the tame there's almost after I think that there
might be a couple of games. Maybe there's a Bowl game,
but nothing starts after like five o'clock Eastern.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Everything starts.

Speaker 6 (01:12:48):
And I love that, Yeah, especially since I do Christmas Eve.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
But yeah, right, yeah, I know, and many people do.
That's right, So there's a there's there's something to be.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Said for allowing the holiday to breathe a little bit
and to have distraction free family time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Or whatever you want to call it. I can certainly
understand that notion.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Well, I want to dive just a little bit further
in it because my uncle unwittingly ripped me and it's
over sports.

Speaker 6 (01:13:20):
So okay, I'm interested in this. I'll excuseually you're the
one doing the ripping, so that I'll expand. I got trashed.
He trashed me to my face without even realizing it.
All right, Yeah, yeah, it's great. Where the Fellas hag
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Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
So we were talking about sports.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
On holidays and the Christmas thing and watching the log
as opposed to the game whatever. So I hoast Christmas, right,
I hoast Christmas Eve, and then we do Thanksgiving. Okay,
now we do later on Thanksgiving because we play football.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
We do a whole big situation.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Yeah, So anyway, right, so my sister does, she'll do
Christmas Day and she'll do Easter and whatever. So my
uncle says to me, like they just had Eastern He's like,
you know, it was such a great day he had

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it Easter. Everybody was talking and everybody was hanging around
and the whole thing because it was so it was
actually at my mother in law's right, because my sister couldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
My sister was there, but she she we couldn't use.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Her house, right, so we were going to use my house,
but I got sick, so I wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Or the Easter.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
At my uncle saying it was the greatest Easter ever.
We were all together and talking. Nobody was in the
other room watching TV. Now, my uncle is not a
sports guy, all right, you don't like it. Every holiday.
I got the game on, right, and I sit in

(01:15:52):
like when we're at my sister's house. You know, there's
the kitchen table, the dining room table or the honing
room table, whatever, and it's adjacent to the kitchen. And
then I'm in the living room and I'm watching I
got the game on, so then you know, my father
comes in usually will watch the game, you know, my

(01:16:13):
nephew like I'll grab the kids, you know, and I
guess it's you know whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
But my uncle was like, oh, it was so good.
It was great. Nobody was watching TV.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
We were all together talking, the kids were involving the
conversation now all things. And I was like, oh, that's nice.
And then he's not even thinking about it. He's not
taking a shot, but he's taking a shot right, like
he's not doing it on purpose, and I'm thinking about
my Eastern Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
I was sick and it wasn't bad.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
I mean, I missed everybody, but I had playoffs on
all day, right, right, So I just spent hester Sunday
watching playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
It's tough because we talk about how sports is like
a sanctuary. It's almost like church and brings people together.
It's your community and all that, and that works with
families too, It brings families together. But there's also something
to be said for there is a holiday, there's a gathering.
You have a lot of family together, right, the intermingling,
being able to talk and tell stories. A lot of

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that can be lost if you're spending a lot of
that time sitting there watching a game. So I understand
both sides of it, yes, Yes, and football.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
And that was the beauty with the NBA because the
NBA you don't have to just be glued, right, Like
you can just watch it and you know, there's games
all day and you know, like if you zone out
fifteen minutes, you're watching a game, right, Like that's but
you could be involved in the conversation, right and the

(01:17:52):
play games like yeah, we always fit family. You play
some kind of games with football, you really not do it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
You can, like I've had family gatherings, thanksgivings over the
past and all that where you know, the Cowboy game
was always the marquee game. And it was on, but
we weren't necessarily glued to it. It turned to the
right and look and I was like, oh, look, Jason
Wooden caught a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Cool. So like as I was light like, that can't
happen too So it works. I think it works all
the way around anything. I think.

Speaker 4 (01:18:23):
I think sports are just good to have on in
the background, even if you're not sitting.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
There glued to it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
Agreed.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
I would much rather have that on in the background
than a log I'll say.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
That, agreed. And here's the thing, like I get it.
You know, the movies are a great part of it,
Like forever. Growing up, our Christmas movie was The Godfather, right,
Like we would watch it as a family every Christmas Day.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
That's excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
And then you know sports started to come on. They
start playing games and the whole thing. And I don't know,
I mean, you know, but you're right, it's good to
play the games. And you know, I'm the only one
that really kind of like locks in.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Well, there's balance, you know, there's balance with everything.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
You know, give me thirty five minutes here to play
the game and then let me go over here and
watch the game on the TV for a little bit
and maybe you pop in and out. There's a way
to have balance, so every box gets checked to a
certain degree.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Yes, you know, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
It's all important. Family time is important, but football is
also important.

Speaker 6 (01:19:27):
Right, just say football. Family goes together, man, correct, it
just goes together.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
It is that it is the best. Now, I don't
like this slate.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Yeah, I'm curious as to why you're you're down.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
And we're going to go through each each week too. Uh,
it's just we're getting these spider conversations. But it's the
same exact teams. We'll expand fellas on Fox. Ah, good morning,

(01:20:03):
good morning, good morning, good morning, co morning, good morning,
Fellas figure cause Kevin figures Anthony Gargano hanging out with
you guys every week figuring in for FITZI Jason Fitz
be on later today and if Jason Fitz and I
will be back tomorrow night eight am Eastern five Pacific,

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hang and do a whole rap of the weekend sports.
A little bit later on next hour, the Brain will
join us to go through some of the games from
a betting standpoint. We talked a lot about the NBA
and the Knicks over Boston last night, we're out city

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kind of like we expected.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
But the Knicks uh, a fascinating team.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Will look ahead to the Knicks Indiana and of course
game seven, okasee Denver tomorrow and Toronto and Flora, which
is another really good game. So we'll we'll hockey and
the Stanley Cup playoffs. We'll get to that. But we've
been going over the NFL schedule and like we always do,
fig we get these winding, meandering conversations.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
So we got through two games.

Speaker 9 (01:21:16):
Exactly, Yeah, two whole games, right, two games, So let's
spend this out really diving deep, all right, So we diligent,
We're excited.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Eagles, Cowboys start the season, Chiefs Chargers from Brazil, and
then the first Sunday full slate, the prime time game
is a great one.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Baltimore and Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
Are to be I mean, that's the one that you want.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
The only other one on the slate that you possibly
could put in that slot is Detroit and Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
But yeah, that's the four to twenty five CBS game
protected by CBS.

Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
Yeah, but I mean obviously dueling MVPs and Lamar Jackson
and Josh Allen makes all the sense in the world.
That would be the primetime game, so I'm obviously looking
forward to that one.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
The Monday night game is an interesting one because the
Monday night game and uh, Joe and Troy Minnesota Chicago,
So Chicago with Ben Johnson, Caleb at Minnesota with JJ
McCarthy at the Helm.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
What do you think of that? Interesting choice?

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
And maybe Fox protected Detroit and Green bayy for or
excuse me, CBS did for that game on Sunday afternoon,
and maybe that's the reason why that's not on Monday night.
But I think people are intrigued to see Caleb with
a new offensive coordinator or a new head coach, offensive minded
hit coach, and see if Minnesota can follow up on
what they did last season now with their rookie quarterback.
I mean, he's essentially a rookie at the home. So

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it's an in trigaguing matchup. Probably not my favorite for
it Monday night, but you know, we'll certainly watch and
have eyeballs on it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Now. Couldn't have been you could have did.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
Now assuming that Rogers really does do the Steelers and
that's the story, right, it would have been Pittsburgh Jets
right Monday night.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
Yeah, the problem is.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
I don't think you can just you can project to
that and now without actually knowing for a fact.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
If you knew for a fact, then you would have
done it. Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
But outside because it's not like either team is going
to necessarily you know, you plan on them light in
the world on fire, especially if Pittsburgh doesn't have Aaron Rodgers.
So that'd be a giant dud to have on a
on a nationally televised game on.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
A Monday night without that star power. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Week two, Washington and green Bay, great game to treat, right,
that's a great game Thursday night.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
So yeah, that's that's a phenomenal slate right there.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Sunday four, twenty five, Eagles and Kids Is City, the
rematch of the Super Bowl right here on Fox.

Speaker 4 (01:24:12):
Would you not have preferred that have been? I mean,
I'm sure you do. As an Eagle fan. We talked
about it, how you you bask in the glow of
getting your rings in front of the cowboys and how
much they have to sit and watch it. But if
you're just a generic fan or a fan of the
sport and not notes you know, dog in the race,
I kind of would have wouldn't have minded having a
Super Bowl rematch in Week one and have that be

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the big kickoff game.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Yeah, as opposed to Week two. I could see that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
I could totally see that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Nevertheless, still looking forward to it obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
The thing is, though, Sunday Night, like, I guess Fox
protected the Eagles the Eagles Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
It's possible.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Yeah, boy, min God like the Sunday Nighters Atlanta, Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
That steaks.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
Not only that, just on a macro view, just looking
at team and primetime games, you realize the Falcons have
five prime time games this year.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Yeah. I love Panics and I don't, but they're not good. No.

Speaker 4 (01:25:09):
I like Panis too, but not that much. Right, the
fact that they're on five times, but the first overall
pick with Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Is not on once. Have you told me you.

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
Gonna switch out Atlanta one or two more times and
put you know, cam Ward in one of.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
Those slots somewhere? I know, I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
I'm really intrigued as to what the schedule makers were
thinking getting Atlanta in all these primetime slots.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
I mean, I'll be honest, you I rat to watch
Bears Lions.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
Agree on thousand percent. I don't. I don't understand that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
I don't blame the Fox CBS to have the four
to five blockage, right, but like Sunday Night, like, you
can't have that done of a Sunday night.

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
Sunday Night is the new is the new Monday Night.
That's a sacred You have to have a marquee matchup there,
especially that early in the season.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Right, Yeah, I don't I don't like that. Mother Light's
a good matchup. I mean generating football Tampa and Houston.
It's a double header, double header, yeah, which I loved
the seven and the ten that staggered double header, right,
Raiders Chargers at ten, Eastern.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
Tampa Houston at seven.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
I love that. Yeah. And at least there's a little
bit more separation.

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
You're talking about a three hour separation between kickoffs as
opposed to the you know, ninety minutes or whatever it's
been in the past. I'm just not a fan of
having to bounce between, you know, between different games.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And
just the West Coast time, it's great.

Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
That's a seven o'clock kickoff for the late for the
for Vegas and Los Angeles. I can understand kicking off
a game at ten o'clock at night. It's it's insane
to me. I know you guys are used to it
back there, but it's it's an anomoly to me.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
It really is. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
So here's the thing, right, you know, it's funny because Ego,
I'm with you. There are four Monday night doubleheaders this year.
Two were staggered and two are the one hour seven fifteen,
eight fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
I just don't understand.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
I don't understand it either.

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
Why you're cutting off your nose to spite your face
to a certain degree.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
Yeah, you know, you've got to captivate an audience, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
Yeah, I mean if you have to sacrifice, maybe you
sacrifice some of the West Coast viewership and start the
game a little earlier, but at least you know, you
have a chance on the late window to know that
everybody's going to be home and be able to watch
the start of that game the second game. But the
idea that people have to go back and forth between
one game or another, the staggered start, I'm just not don't.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
I don't understand the rationale behind that. I never have.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
No, I completely agree, completely agree, But I do like
the I do like the fact that, like they're two
good games. You know, you get to see your Raiders
Raiders charges great Division game. Yeah, and then and then
Tampa and Houston. I'm down with that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Yeah, Tampa Houston is fun.

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
You got Harball versus Pete Carroll again, the the What's
your Deal matchup from Stanford and USC back in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
So I mean that those are two good matchups. Wow,
that's right, that's great.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
The week three Thursday game Miami Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
It should be a good one. Interest me.

Speaker 4 (01:28:29):
Uh, I don't know what Miami is even gonna look like. Still,
I mean it's Jalen Rams are gonna be there?

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Probably not?

Speaker 4 (01:28:36):
Are they gonna take this? Seems like Miami's probably gonna
take half a step back this year. Yeah, it's kind
of the vibe I have. Tyreek's not getting any younger. Obviously,
Wattle's great, but I don't know, I feel like their
their window is closing.

Speaker 6 (01:28:53):
For You have Dallas, Chicago, Arizona, San Francisco this Sunday nighter, Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
Dud Giants City the Giants.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
First of all, I get the kids city thing, but
it's excessive.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Seven times you're old National TV. Well you gotta play
the Hits. I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:17):
You know, that's the that's the Giants, that's the Travis
Kelcey slash Taylor Swift effect. So I do the same thing.
You want Kansas City as much as possible to get
as many eyeballs there. It's I have no problem with
Kansas City. I have a problem with him playing New York.

Speaker 5 (01:29:34):
And I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
New York, big TV market, there's a lot of viewership.
Similar to the Cowboys to a certain degree. They're just
so bad. The Giants steak, Yeah, I mean that's gonna
be you know, forty one nothing at halftime. I'm sure
it won't be and watch the Giants upset. But you
know what I mean, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
It's Sunday, the first two of the first three Sunday
Night steak terrible, and then you got Monday Night great.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
Monday's good.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
Yeah, lie is rave it?

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
That's a great game. Yeah, absolutely, that's a that's a
football game. Preview it may be maybe, although I think
there's gonna be a repeat, but just say you're biased.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
Of course, a week four, we get it started Thursday night.
I like the I like when they go all right,
let let's go to the look ahead. Thursday night. It's
a started man, all the networks at all. Right, Seattle Arizona,
What do you think of that?

Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
I think Arizona might be better than people think. They've
kind of been steadily improving these last couple of years Undergannon.
Now there's still nothing super you know, spectacular or overly exciting,
and Seattle is a team that's in kind of a
quasi rebuild at this point. So it's not the sexiest matchup,
to be honest with you, but I do like Arizona
this year.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
I think Arizona my surprise.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
And folks, they have a good defense and you know,
they figured it out offensively.

Speaker 4 (01:30:59):
I still not the biggest Kyler. Kyler is very inconsistent,
but agreed, you know, we'll be all right. I like
I like how they're turning things around over there. I
think they'll be solid this year.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
And it marks It's Sunday, September twenty eighth, so it
marks the first international game Pittsburgh and Minnesota from Dublin.

Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
I like the international games. I know you hate them.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Hate is strong.

Speaker 4 (01:31:28):
I'll put it this way, is that that game kicks
off at six thirty in the morning West Coast time.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
Now because I'm an early riser.

Speaker 4 (01:31:34):
I'll be up and I'll watch it, obviously, but it
would not be appointment of viewing. I'm not setting my
alarm to get up and watch Pittsburgh Minnesota. I'll put
it that way. If this is Kevin Figures from twelve
years ago, and I'm waking up from a you know,
Saturday night of who knows what, right, I ain't doing
that right, that doesn't doesn't intrigue me enough. I got you,
so you gotta give me something better than that.

Speaker 6 (01:31:56):
Well, the four to twenty five game you're locked in, Oh,
trust me, keep Baltimore, KC.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
I mean, come on, outrageous, that's incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Yeah, and then you got Green Bay Dallas on this
Sunday nighter.

Speaker 6 (01:32:15):
More Dallas, Yes, more Dallas.

Speaker 4 (01:32:18):
Six national televised games or primetime games for the Cowboys
this year.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
I thought that you were saying the Fox. The Fox
executives saying no, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
Fox says for their one twenty five West Coast for
twenty five Eastern, they're not having as many Cowboy games
as they've had in the past because they've had complaints
from fan saying like, why is it that every single
Sunday at four to twenty five. The Cowboys are on
regardless if they're good or bad. I'm tired of seeing
the Cowboys and they're like, you know what, we want
to switch things up. There's more compelling matchups. We want

(01:32:47):
more Jaydon Daniels. We want more AFC quality teams. We
want more Detroit, which you should you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
Know if you're Detroit's a fun team.

Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
Yeah, like obviously someone's Washington Troy dat fun watch like.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
Right, they're a good team to watch. Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (01:33:05):
Yeah, I like the idea, especially in those windows, being
able to mix it up and show them, show the
nation a variety of the really good teams that we have.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
That's what that's lot. I think that's what that s
lots should be for.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
Agreed. How about the doubleheader.

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
And this is the seven fifteen eight to fifteen, which
we hate the crossover.

Speaker 6 (01:33:30):
Ye's Miami and in Cincinnati Denver. Cincinnati Denver could has
potential to be a fun one. That could be a
fun Agree, that could be a could be a high
scoring one. No, now we have reached October, My brother, Wow,
that fast.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
Look at that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
We're in October. Now, Rams Niners to Thursday Night? What
are you think of the Niners. I think they're having
a bad year.

Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
Yeah, I think they probably they their schedule is not
as super difficult, but they've lost a lot. They're kind
of a team that's aging out. You feel like their
windows kind of closed on them a little bit. You
resign party. It's actually a pretty decent contract overall, to
be honest with you, It's not that terrible, right, But
how much do you have around them? Is McCaffrey gonna
stay healthy? You don't have Devo anymore? What is Iyuk

(01:34:22):
coming off injury?

Speaker 5 (01:34:23):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:34:24):
So there's a lot of question marks for them. So
I think San Francisco probably takes us a half step
back this year.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
And then once you get to the Sunday, the Sunday slate,
the second international game is a London game and it's Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
So what do you think about Minnesota?

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Yeah, backa, we.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Play Cleveland going back to back, staying doing Dublin and
then London, and they will spend two weeks across the pond.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
That's interesting. Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
I guess it's smart on their parts because they can
stay over there. They don't have to readjust their bodies,
so they'll have an advantage over Cleveland in that matchup.
I think it's as interesting that you would choose to
actually do that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
And they by week and they do right after that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
Yeah, So it's also it also helps with international branding
to a certain degree, getting yourself out there to different countries,
getting more exposure. So from that standpoint, it's not necessarily
a bad move from Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
I think it's also a precursor to when they add
the weekly international game, right where they'll start keeping teams
over there for a couple of weeks at a time.

Speaker 4 (01:35:37):
Yeah, well, that'll be difficult, right because I guess in
theory every single team is going to have at least
going to have one international game per season, right, Does
that mean by default somebody is going to have to
play multiple I'm not exactly sure how that how that
all works.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
Out Jacksonville, right, because you know, Jacksonville is a team
that's going to be you know, kind of shared time bill.
It might be like the how the Packers would do
it with Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
Right back in the day. That's right, right, Like you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Can almost see that, Yeah, you could see that, and
then the rest of the slate.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
The prime time slate that that is not the greatest.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
Okay, so let me throw this at you. Now, the
four to twenty five game on Fox is great. Cincinnati Detroit.
I'm in on that absolutely right, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
Even Washington, Washington and the Chargers is.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
I was going to bring that up. Now, why would
you opt if you're NBC? I think NBC stakes right.

Speaker 4 (01:36:39):
So far, they're they're striking out last first month and month.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Whoever drafted for NBC should be fired. It's like they
preside over the Sixers draft, right, like they're terrible. So
they chose New England Buffalo over either could man, there's
Chargers or Lions Bengals.

Speaker 4 (01:37:02):
Why yeah, why I would even take Houston Baltimore and
put them there. Yes, Eagles, Eagles, Denver put them there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
Yes, but New New England Buffalo. The Buffalos could destroy them, right.

Speaker 4 (01:37:18):
I I I guess wanted to get a look at
Drake May on the national stage.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
Sure whatever, Drake May.

Speaker 4 (01:37:26):
I'm stretching here, man, you are, I really I really
don't see what it is. I really don't see that one.
And then Monday night it's bad too.

Speaker 6 (01:37:37):
Chiefs and Jackson Jars again Kansas City, right, Yeah, like, like,
now go through it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
We're five weeks in and Kansas City's played on prime
time for the five.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
Weeks four times, I believe. Yeah, I mean that's excessive.

Speaker 4 (01:37:59):
Yeah, I mean, if you're going to be in primetime
that often, Siff, it is gonna be seven times for
the season out of eighteen weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
You gotta spread it out a little bit more. You
gotta give at variety in Hereeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
And now look the following Thursday, will we begin week
six Eagles Giants?

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
That steaks? Yeah, that's terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
The Eagles have a weird thing to their schedule. They
play the Giants week six and week eight oh wow.
And they play Washington week sixteen and week eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
Wow. How often does that happen? That's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
You don't get to see, Like, I don't understand that
they were it's the rematch of the AFC Championship game
and they don't play until week sixteen, and then you
cram them in twice.

Speaker 4 (01:38:45):
That's a weird quirk on the schedule. And I realize
there's logistics and travel and there's reasons why the schedule
lands the way that it lands. Because I'm pretty sure
the NFL, if they had their Drothers will not have
division opponents play each other twice in three weeks if
they could avoid it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
So, yeah, there has to be something going on as
to why they had to do that. No, I don't.
I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
Uh, dever jets uh the international game that week and
then you go with now, I mean the Lion's Chiefs. Dude,
Canda Sunday night like Chiefs. Okay, that's five to six.

Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:39:27):
People want pat people want Tata Man, people want that
Taylor's They.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
I think there's Chiefs fatigue.

Speaker 4 (01:39:36):
I would like to think that there's Chiefs fatigue. I
don't believe that there is. I really don't.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
You don't think so? No, I think they they pull
a number.

Speaker 4 (01:39:45):
They've brought in fans who are not even football fans
because of the Kelsey Swift angle of it. And look,
we football people can be sick and tired of it
as much as we are, but that's a real thing.
There are people that watch Kansas City that five years
ago could give a rip about the Chiefs that are
watching them now. NFL knows that recognizes that the network's

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no one recognized that, and that's as big a reason
as any the fact that they win a lot and
that they have the best quarterback in the league helps
greatly obviously. But I do believe if it wasn't for
the Kelsey Swift effect, it wouldn't be to this magnitude.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
I would ride that gravy train too if I were,
if I were, or ESPN or whoever.

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
I get it. I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
I mean, you know, listen, I don't know how like
a terrible beef with Lions cheese, right, yeah, but don't
put don't make it Jaguars Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
Correct. So that's the thing that gets me.

Speaker 4 (01:40:38):
Don't just put Kansas City on by, you know, just
because by any means necessary, they're playing a terrible opponent.

Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
We don't eat that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:47):
Put them in the ten am slash one pm window
for that, and when they happen.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
Then the month that double heaters good Bill's Falcons, Bears, Commanders.

Speaker 6 (01:40:58):
Bears, Commanders. I like the Falcon, the Falcons. I got
no beef with I.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
Just don't Why is Atlanta there?

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
I know, I know, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:41:06):
I don't nothing about Atlanta that screams national TV to me.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
Yeah, I hear you.

Speaker 4 (01:41:13):
Titans, Browns and Saints have no nationally televised games if
they if the Falcons were in that mix, I'd have
no complaints whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
Yeah, I'll put it in.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
I feel you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
All right, We're gonna take quick tell you, oh, we'll
come back. Uh, run through a little more to the schedule,
get back to basketball in the playoffs. Next hour where
the Fellas k fig cause Hagen right here Fox Sports
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Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
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Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
Features in the app is pretty cool, right, like you
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So just like the preset, you know, just like the
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It'll always pop up at the top of your screen.
All right, let's kind of do this, uh, because I

(01:42:21):
could spend a whole day, and I don't know if
people just get tired of it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
I don't know if you are. I'd be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
I'm actually asking the question, like I could go through
this the whole thing, and now you tell me, I
want to like literally go here, Fig, tell me, like,
sometimes you need to tell your friends that this is
probably not a good idea. Yep, all right, Now tell
me that we just did six weeks. Do you want

(01:42:51):
to keep going or just skip around?

Speaker 4 (01:42:55):
I think it's best if we skip around, Yeah, the
week by week. I think it'd be a little bit much.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
So my instincts say the same thing, but my heart
is stubborn, right all right, So that's why I had
to say to you, Figure, like listen, stop me, man,
take the keys.

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
Yeah, and I appreciate you for having the self awareness
to put yourself in that position, so so thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
Yes, yeah, I mean listen, I don't want to kill
the audience.

Speaker 4 (01:43:29):
Yeah, exactly as much as the audience loves, like the schedule,
release and all of that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:35):
You know, every single.

Speaker 4 (01:43:37):
Week, I think looking at it and more of a
macro view or spotlighting a few things, your thanksgivings, your
Christmas is right right right, your late season, Saturdays, late
stuff like that might sit on.

Speaker 3 (01:43:48):
The side fans forward from October.

Speaker 1 (01:43:54):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
Now the beauty is I could do this as I
mock myself. Make it funny, right, which is what I'm
trying to do, even though like I really kind of want.

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
To do it seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
So which tells you that my degree of loserdom right,
like of Kingdom, it's completely ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:44:14):
That was a geekdom fandom. I wouldn't call it loserdom,
you know. Yeah, it was close to love, a passion
for it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
I appreciate, you know. All right, so let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
We'll skip to Thanksgiving, like fig said, which is a
smart thing to do. Thursday, November twenty seventh, Green Bay, Detroit,
one o'clock, Kansas City, Dallas four point thirty, Cincinnati, Baltimore,

(01:44:46):
eight twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:44:47):
Who's complaining? That's awesome? Who's complaining about that slate? Great?
Great slates? The Cowboys are terrible, you know, and then
that would, you know, put a damper on which I'm
happening st you know, even if they're bad. I don't
mind that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
I like, I remember there was a movement a few
years back before the lines got good to get the
lines off of Christmas, off of Thanksgiving Day.

Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
Very big movement on that. Yes, there really was.

Speaker 3 (01:45:17):
I was against it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:19):
Yeah, I was too, because part of me was, like
I said, eventually they were gonna end up turning it around. Now,
I didn't know if it was going to be you know,
now or thirty years from now. And even if they're not,
it's just tradition, you know, give them their day in
the spotlight, whether they're good or not. This is kind
of their day every single year to kind of showcase
the city of Detroit, you know, And it's been such

(01:45:41):
a tradition for so long. I'm not really a fan
of messing with that if I don't really really have to.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
Yeah, I love.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
The tradition of football, and I think it's important to
keep that tradition. Yeah, so I like Detroit, DA.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
And I don't want to jump ahead too much.

Speaker 4 (01:46:03):
But I mean, well, I guess it's in the same vein,
so it's not totally off base. So the Kansas City
Chiefs put in a request to the NFL this offseason.
We want Christmas. We want to own Christmas Day. We
want to be the Detroit and Dallas like they are
on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
We want to do that on Christmas. And the league
said no.

Speaker 4 (01:46:22):
And I was interested, intrigued as to why the league
would tell them no. Now, granted their Kansas City is
kind of at the apex of their dynasty at this
point in time, is going to die down eventually at
some point, no one knows when. And they do have
a Christmas game this year, but they're not going to
be on Christmas Day in perpetuity. What are your thoughts
on if the NBA or excuse me, the NFL, and

(01:46:44):
we know they will are going to remain on Christmas Day,
do you think that they should have a consistent team
that performs every single year on Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
It's hard, right, because there's some weeks some years you
can only have two games, ye like on the Wednesday,
like every other day. You could do the three, and
I don't mind Kansas City for one of them, but
because I like, I think it's a great football town,
it's a great stadium, So I get it. But if

(01:47:16):
you're in the NFL, you're gonna want to spread the
wealth a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:47:22):
Right, And you're basically sticking with Detroit and Dallas because
those are grandfathered in, but in today's.

Speaker 3 (01:47:29):
Would never get it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:30):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
Respect the ASK. I think it's a smart ask.

Speaker 4 (01:47:37):
It's very small on their part. I mean, that's that's
part of your branding. If you can do that, that's
a huge Whether you're good.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
That's a big advantage. It's a huge advantage.

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
Like all of a sudden, synonymous like Dave becomes ant,
like right now, they're they're definitely I.

Speaker 1 (01:47:53):
Mean Andy, Andy Saint Nick right exactly. I mean, is
the white Beard that's it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:48:01):
I mean it's perfect, right, I mean it really is.

Speaker 1 (01:48:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:48:07):
And you know, I talk about hope with fam field
advantages at least Detroit and Dallas or you know, Dome stadiums.
I would hate to have to be the team looking
up knowing that Kansas City is on your schedule before
the schedule release and you're like, please not us, Please
not us, Please not us. If you're like the Chargers
or the Raiders, and it's like we got to go
at Kansas City on Christmas Day December.

Speaker 3 (01:48:26):
Yeah, you're like please, God No.

Speaker 1 (01:48:28):
It's the ultimate home field advantage.

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
So let me ask you this because I love the
Black Friday game.

Speaker 1 (01:48:38):
Yeah right, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
I love the idea of it. Three o'clock Black Friday, Eastern.
Not be sure it's Eagles Bears. I got one beef
with it. How common is the double header? Why isn't
there a Friday light gate?

Speaker 4 (01:48:57):
I don't know, and we know for years that college
football kind of owned Black Friday. I don't know if
they're trying to give space for that. It's like, hey,
we'll give you a little NFL all knowing that's also
a big weekend. That's usually the last day of the
last game of the regular season for a lot of
college programs.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
So maybe that's the NFL given a little bit of a.

Speaker 4 (01:49:16):
Tip saying like, hey, yeah, you'll squeeze in here a
little bit, but we're not going to totally take it over.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
I thought of that, Except the only problem is the
games that they play Friday night aren't that good.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
Shouldn't really speaking, Yeah, if there are good games in
the past, there were always day games.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
And they're not and if there's not a ton of
them at night.

Speaker 4 (01:49:38):
No, So and that's interesting because the NFL that matchup
is what that's a that's a noon or three o'clock
Eastern kickoff NFL game, the NFL game one Black Friday. Yeah, yeah,
so that's interesting. So the fact that there's only a
game and the fact that the game is in the
window that it's in is interesting. So I'm looking at they,

(01:49:58):
by the way, the college football slate for Black Friday.
I was about to do that, so and every time.
By the way, every time is TBD. There's not a
single game that actually has a start time yet, but
Georgia Georgia Tech could potentially.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
Be a big rivalry game. Who knows where George is
gonna be.

Speaker 4 (01:50:15):
I don't have the highest expectations for Nebraska.

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
Said that Georgia Georgia Tech game is a wild during
the day, right.

Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
I think it was a night game this past year,
and it was close. It was very close, if you remember,
I mean that that was nip and tuck towards the
very Georgia Tech bluw elite to Georgia at the very end. Uh,
Nebraska could take a giant leap this year. They have
a game against Iowa Arizona, a state could be big
in the Big twelve. Outside of that, there's not a
whole lot of bad. Yeah, Nebraska should be good with
Royola in the second season with the ob our.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
Guy Matt rule.

Speaker 4 (01:50:48):
But it's not the biggest slate, not the most impactful
college football slate outside of a hand a couple of
about two or two or three games. So when those
games start, juxtapposed to win the nb NFL game starts.

Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
Is going to be interesting. Yeah, man, I don't know, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
I think it should be honestly, like, I think they
should play two.

Speaker 4 (01:51:09):
Yeah. I as someone who loves college football as much,
if not a little bit more than I love the NFL,
and I love them both. I kind of like the
idea of each one giving the other one room to
breathe a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:51:22):
Yeah, so the next listen, if there was I just
remember last year going, well, it's only like there's like
two games on right Friday night.

Speaker 1 (01:51:33):
The last year, I was like, and none neither of
them did much for they never were already good. Like
the Georgia dreg Tech game.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
I remember thinking it was only close because George didn't
play well, right and they were half down.

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):
Sure, but nevertheless, you know what I mean, rivalry game,
you never know.

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
Yeah, this is my problem with Christmas. Okay, it's the
same teams.

Speaker 4 (01:52:00):
Yeah, there's not a lot of new blood from a
national TV standpoint, especially if you just take this particular
season as a whole. For all the lead up that
we've been talking about as far as Kansas City is on,
and this team is on, and this team is on,
and that you look at December twenty fifth, it's Kansas
City again.

Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
It's Dallasoys again, Dalla's first game.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
Yeah, this Detroit again, you know Detroit.

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
The second game at Kansas City, the third game. What
the freak? It's the same teams. Yeah, why would you
do that?

Speaker 4 (01:52:32):
Well, the number one reason, as you know, TV drives everything.
People are gonna watch the Cowboys, good or bad. We've
talked about Kansas City and why they're on. And Detroit's
one of the best teams in the NFC and expected
to be good again this year too.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
Yeah, but it's redundant to put them from Thanksgiving, I
think Christmas. It's just redundant. Where's Buffalo? Where's Baltimore? The
Eagles like whatever? Eagles?

Speaker 5 (01:52:57):
Do?

Speaker 1 (01:52:57):
You know what? The Eagles have many Sunday light games?
To have how many? One that's surprising to me.

Speaker 4 (01:53:04):
One they're the defending Super Bowl champion and two it's
not like they play in timbuktoo. I mean, Philadelphia is
a major market with the national following two, so that's
odd to me.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
I know, they play in a weird they play like
a Saturday game. They have the Black Friday Game, but
like they only played it one Sunday night there, which
is odd to me. Now, remember starting in week six
they can flex, right, so and there are different rules

(01:53:33):
like from week six to week ten and you know
you can you could flex. Here's somebody told me that
they front loaded the Giants early because of the New
York market and they expect them to be bad late.

Speaker 4 (01:53:51):
Which makes sense. I mean, it will make sense from
a rationale standpoint. You will put bad teams in the
national TV slots early in the seas and to kind
of get them out of the way, so then once
you get to the back half of the year, then
you can pick and choose your better matchups and all
that while acknowledging that New York is a giant TV
market that's going to bring eyeballs. But you'd rather schedule
them early than schedule them late and then flex out

(01:54:14):
of them.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
So that makes sense to me.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
But here's the problem. You would to say New York's
gonna bring eyeballs. New York's to one city that what
happens in October playoff Baseball? Yeah, and that's the city
in the country, New York and Boston where baseball is
bigger than football.

Speaker 4 (01:54:33):
Yep, thousand, regardless of how good the football teams are.
If the baseball teams are good, baseball is going to.

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
Be number one. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
Yankees and Mets are bigger than the Giants and Jets. Yes, absolutely,
all right, let's take a quick to we'll come back.
I would to throw the college thing at you since
we're talking schedules this hour.

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Speaker 10 (01:55:50):
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Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
Posted and that was it, Kurt to see the Knicks
radio network McBride buries the triple, the big lead, and
you saw it really from the beginning. Boston couldn't score
that first half. We'll get to it to start the
next hour, Figuie, we'll get back to basketball. But you
saw early on last night that that's the way the

(01:56:19):
game was gonna go.

Speaker 4 (01:56:21):
Yeah, and it was gonna be tough sledding anyway in
that environment for Boston. Those Knicks fans were, i mean
fowming at the mouth, and after the game ended, you
thought they'd won Game seven of the NBA Finals while
they were celebrated and it was insane. And some people
are criticizing them, saying they were doing a little bit
too much, but I mean, it's it's all about a
city that starred for a winner, especially that franchise in particular,

(01:56:41):
that building in particular. It means a lot to the
city for the Knicks to be able to make that
deep of a run again.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
They haven't made it to the conference finals in twenty
five years.

Speaker 4 (01:56:50):
There are full blown adults with kids who have never
seen the Knicks make of this deep into the postseason,
so I think it was a great sight to see.
They shouldn't be criticized for that. They should celebrate.

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
Yeah, I agree. I don't know. I never have any
issues with that stuff. Yeah, you know, I mean, look,
that's a big moment.

Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
Man, it is places go wild.

Speaker 2 (01:57:08):
I mean, I'd never understand, like the muted stuff like
you they.

Speaker 1 (01:57:14):
Act like you've been there before. Thing right, like they
have closed.

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
You put a lot of you put a lot of stress,
and you stress about it and you practice and it's
a lot of work and it's gonna come out.

Speaker 1 (01:57:27):
Yeah, it's a long season.

Speaker 4 (01:57:28):
I've had this argument about, you know, when baseball teams
clinch division titles or they make it to the next round,
should they do with the champagne shower?

Speaker 1 (01:57:35):
And is it over?

Speaker 4 (01:57:36):
It's like, yeah, you know what, for those guys who've
been busting their ass for one hundred and sixty two
plus spring training, Yeah, you know what, they should celebrate.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
That's a hell of an accomplishment. You should do it.
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
One of the things I think that we are that
we need to rail against is this notion that you
can't sell it like, I get you don't want to celebrate,
you know, complete trophies and that stuff. I agree with that,
Like you know, but like U and beings need a
little bit of celebratory for moments, for accomplishments. I think

(01:58:10):
it's good for your psyche. I think it helps you
achieve more. Right, you know, it doesn't mean you're resting
on your laurels. It means you're taking a moment and
celebrating something. People need to do that more.

Speaker 4 (01:58:23):
Yeah, like that to have the emotional release, especially like
in sports, guys are so tightly wound. You have your routines,
you work your ass off all season long, battling through
injuries and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
It's a sense of accomplishment.

Speaker 4 (01:58:35):
You should be able to stop and smell the roses
for even for half a second.

Speaker 1 (01:58:38):
Or one night. That's what you should do. Yeah, you know,
Like I go back.

Speaker 4 (01:58:42):
I think it's a Nick Saban after Alabama won the
nation one of their fifteen national championships, and he's doing
his postseason press conference. In one of the reporters Asthien
is like, you don't look happy, and he says, I'm
happy as hell in a very dead pan, like pardon me,
wonder if Nick Saban like looks back and says like
I never really actually soaked in and enjoyed any of that.
It was just onto the next one, onto recruiting, onto
the give yourself at least a day to celebrate and

(01:59:05):
take a bath, like, you know, come on, because at
that point, what are you doing if you're not right?

Speaker 1 (01:59:10):
What's the point of doing this? Right? You know? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
All right, real quick? The college football schedule.

Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
Yes, all right, the Labor Day game, the two Sunday
games are good. They need to do a full Sunday
game over more over Labor Day weekend. Look, you got
South Carolina, Virginia, chech Notre Dame Miami, right, I mean
love not Day in Miami is gonna be a good game.
It will be great game, right, but what we're up

(01:59:42):
against it, man, we'll touch on it real quick. On
the other side, fellas well, Good morning, good morning, good morning,
good morning, happy happy happy Fox Sports Saturday to all.
What a beautiful weekend weekend before Memorial Day kicking off

(02:00:02):
summer twenty twenty five. The funny thing about it is
we're all the schedule stuff that came out this week,
and we're gonna talk about this morning.

Speaker 6 (02:00:11):
People are just killing me, going, dude, stop trying to
fanst forward through the summer.

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
Like we're in May and we're looking at all September
and October, November and all, like you're like, dude, summertime, man,
what happened in summer?

Speaker 3 (02:00:26):
I'm like, just give me football.

Speaker 4 (02:00:28):
Yeah, we got plenty of time for that, you know,
speculation season.

Speaker 1 (02:00:31):
This is the best time.

Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
Come on, that's it, buddy, that's it. Uh, we're not
through the playoffs. We got the spring playoffs. Last night
a tremendous, tremendous night for the Knicks.

Speaker 3 (02:00:50):
It was a garden party figure last night.

Speaker 2 (02:00:53):
Yeah, it was all the celebs are out, everybody was
waiting for it, and you kind of figured that last
it would happen, right like, you know, Tatum goes down,
the awful injury for Jason Tatum, and you know, the
Celtics respond, they're home, they shoot the lights out, they
get hot. But now all of a sudden, Tims knows

(02:01:15):
how the offense is going to flow. They're not going
to shoot anywhere near that, and they clamp down. Man,
they just.

Speaker 1 (02:01:23):
Clamped down and the game was over early.

Speaker 2 (02:01:26):
You saw it, like the Knicks the Celtics were struggling
to score without Tatum and without being able to shoot
the ball like.

Speaker 3 (02:01:34):
They just did.

Speaker 2 (02:01:35):
Like you knew they would have trouble scoring the basketball.

Speaker 4 (02:01:38):
And it showed, Yeah, and the guys that they relied on,
whether Tatum was going to be there or not, like
Drew Holliday had a terrible series.

Speaker 1 (02:01:47):
Yeah, outside, he's a terrific player too.

Speaker 4 (02:01:50):
He really is, but he just had a down. I mean,
it happens, and I know he's getting up there on
the other side of thirty, but I mean, he's a
guy you're relying on. So especially especially in a game
where you have Jason Tatum in the all hands on
deck situation, you gotta have guys like Derek White and
Drew Holliday play like all stars and Porzingis, you know,
play like an All Star. And it was just too
much to overcome, and to your point, giving TIBs an

(02:02:12):
additional day to see exactly how the offense is gonna
play without Tatum in the lineup, knowing how New York
can just lock in defensively, and again New York was
having success defensively before Tatum got hurt, so granted the
game that he went down. He was playing out of
his mind. He had forty two points I believe when
he got hurt. But the Knicks were playing well defensively
in this series before that happened. So once he went down,

(02:02:34):
you knew it was gonna it was just gonna wear
down on the Celtics. Eventually, too much on Jalen brown shoulders.
They just weren't gonna have enough.

Speaker 2 (02:02:41):
Yeah, I'm with him, and he kind of understood it.
Now this brings us to this next series, because this
series is gonna be fascinating and it may not be
sexyen the way you know there, you know people think
about it. But Knixt Pacers, I think it's good, bad

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good series.

Speaker 1 (02:03:04):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:03:05):
I like Indiana and the series that'll begin on Wednesday.
So this coming Wednesday will be Game one between the
Pacers and the Knicks, and to throw back, Knicks will
have the home court advantage. It's a throwback to Knicks
Pacers twenty years ago, the last time both these teams

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were good.

Speaker 3 (02:03:29):
I like Indiana and the series.

Speaker 2 (02:03:31):
I want to see the Knicks win, but I think
Indiana matches up and I just think they're too deep.

Speaker 4 (02:03:38):
They're too deep, and Indiana can actually play. They can
play up and down, which they had done early in
the season when they were kind of struggling, and they
don't actually slowed down. It became more of a methodical
half court team. That's kind of when they actually started
to blossom and play better and turn themselves into an
Eastern Conference contender. We know how the Knicks want to play,
but Indiana can speed it up on them if they

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want to. And they also have guys. They have multiple
guys that they can throw defensively at Jalen Brunson. You
can put Haliburton on him. You got nim Hard, you
got Nie Smith, you got McConnell that there's a lot
of different.

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
Looks they can give.

Speaker 4 (02:04:11):
Pascal Siakam will make cat work up front, and sol
Miles Turner. So matchup wise, I think it favors Indiana
just in general. And then the fact that you mentioned
just depth. Indiana can go ten deep, which is a
rarity in the NBA postseason. That you have a team
that actually has that much depth, but they have like
six seven guys or averaging double figures in the postseason.

Speaker 1 (02:04:29):
That's incredible. That's almost unheard.

Speaker 3 (02:04:31):
Of, right, it really is. And you know, between.

Speaker 2 (02:04:36):
I mean, they're just built really well, right because you
have Halliburton terrific players. Siakam a terrific player, and then
like you said, all the role players and them hard
and a Smith, like, they just got really good role
players up and down the roster, and you know they
you're you broke up a good point about how they

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morphed and they got out of that running gun and
they became more of a half courteen. They played defense,
they just got better at it. And I think that's
probably the difference. I think everybody will see what the
brain likes, but I think everybody's gonna be obviously on
the Knicks to win. And I just think Indiana match

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I think it's a matchup thing.

Speaker 4 (02:05:21):
I agree one thousand percent is just not a good
matchup for New York. New York is gonna get run
into the ground. The depth in Indiana has running all
those guys that you and knowing that the Knicks their
top six guys and really just their starter, their starters
are all gonna play thirty eight plus minutes every single night,
that's just a lot of wear and tear. I will say,
if and when games are closed down the stretch there's

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nobody in this series I trust more than Jalen Brunson,
so the clutch factor.

Speaker 1 (02:05:46):
Goes to him.

Speaker 4 (02:05:47):
You know, if this is gonna be a rough and tumble,
tough defensive series and it's gonna come down to a
possession or two, then the Knicks obviously haves have a
phenomenal shot because they have one of the best closers
in the entire league. So something like that can be discounted.
The problem is will they be in that position often
for the game to be on the line when it
matters most in crunch time?

Speaker 2 (02:06:07):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Well, before we get to the
Eastern Conference Finals, we gotta we have to uh take
care of this series, this last series in the Western
Conference semifinals. Nuggets and Thunder tomorrow Game seven, OKC eight
and a half point favorites, and that Gordon questionable. He's

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gonna be being that he's gonna be dinged up at
the work at worst.

Speaker 4 (02:06:38):
All right, yeah, at best he'll be dinged up and
playing that It seems unlikely at this point that he's
even gonna play at all, which is a huge blow
to Jennifer who does not does not have a lot
of quality depth and he's one of the most important
players that they have on their roster, and this is,
you know, all hands on deck is something that you
need going into a Game seven on the road. And

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it's unfortunate because I thought Denver going into Game seven,
if they were fully healthy, had a phenomenal shot to
be able to beat an inexperienced Oklahoma City team whose
inexperience has shown at times in the postseason specific games,
right right, So I think it's unfortunate if you're a
Nugget Nuggets fan that Aaron Gordon's not going to be

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one hundred percent because I think that's going to be
the biggest factor in determining whether or not they end
up winning on Sunday, and honestly, they probably won't because
they just they can't afford to be shorthanded there. Their
margin for error is not as wide as it was too.

Speaker 6 (02:07:34):
That's the problem for them and losing Gordon too, because
Gordon is athletics. You need athlete to get Okay. See,
he's a great athlete.

Speaker 4 (02:07:43):
He's a He's very solid defensively and makes a high
percentage of his spot up threes, which is something that
Denver has excelled that when they've won, when they haven't
won games, they haven't been able to knock down its
outside shots. So even if you just want to, you know,
base it on this and just eliminate everything else. To say,
the Aaron Gordon is one of their best three point shooters,
now you're taking that out of the equation. Now, who

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are you going to Peyton Watson?

Speaker 1 (02:08:06):
He can't.

Speaker 4 (02:08:07):
He's a good defensive player, but he can't shoot. You're
gonna rely on Julian Strawther to have another, you know,
out of this world game. A highly doubt that's gonna
happen in game seven on the road, so that that's
an uphill battle for Denver.

Speaker 2 (02:08:20):
Yeah, I'm with you. I don't see how. And then
here's the other issue is that Denver if okay see
finishes off Denver. I think Denver was their toughest competition. Like,
I just don't see Minnesota beating that team. We like

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the Wolves a lot. I love ant Man, I just
don't think they have enough firepower to beat that team.

Speaker 4 (02:08:47):
The only caveat I will say, if Julius Randall continues
to play the way that he's been playing, they have
a shot. Because that's your legitimate Robin to ants Batman
as a legitimate score.

Speaker 1 (02:08:59):
You can go, we can get yourself bucket.

Speaker 7 (02:09:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:09:02):
Whether or not he can keep it up, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (02:09:04):
But generally speaking, look, I was I didn't like Minnesota's
half court offense or like thereof was why I thought
they would lose to the Lakers in the first round.
And who knows what would have happened if Steph Curry
had stayed healthy for Golden State.

Speaker 1 (02:09:16):
Once he went down. I mean that that whole thing
just you know, went to hell.

Speaker 4 (02:09:19):
So I don't even know how much you can take
away from that Golden State series considering Steph wasn't there
before a game. But if Julius Rednaald continues to play
at the level that he's playing at, then Minnesota I
think has a legitimate shot.

Speaker 1 (02:09:31):
I don't. I just don't know if he can keep
that up.

Speaker 6 (02:09:34):
Yeah, man, I hear you, I hear you. I think
the same thing, And unfortunately I like to see that
series get pushed.

Speaker 4 (02:09:45):
I would too, because even though I think I think,
okay see, we both agree that, okay see, he's gonna
win in five, but I'd rather not.

Speaker 1 (02:09:51):
I'd love word to go seven, you know, is it the.

Speaker 3 (02:09:55):
Biggest nightmare for the NBA to have it? Okay, AAC
Indiana Final.

Speaker 4 (02:10:05):
The NBA is probably behind the eight ball regardless of
who makes it. Outside of the Knicks, fourths, three fourths
of the team that arena have the potential of making
it to the finals.

Speaker 1 (02:10:14):
Are probably not doing a lot for you.

Speaker 4 (02:10:16):
So as much as Anthony Edwards is on the ascension
to being the face of the league, I don't know
if he's quite there yet.

Speaker 1 (02:10:23):
He's not.

Speaker 4 (02:10:23):
He hasn't transcended to a point where people who are
not sports fans know who he is. You know, so
you need the Knick. You kind of need the Knicks
brand to be in the NBA finals because outside of that,
the casual observer is not. There's nothing in nothing to
really draw them in. I know, unfortunate because she is
a phenomenal player.

Speaker 3 (02:10:42):
He's actually say that, Like, you know, I think it's
always that Nick Sherin.

Speaker 2 (02:10:47):
I think Indiana is is the nightmare scenario for them.

Speaker 4 (02:10:51):
I agree, which is unfortunate because style of play wise,
I think they're fun to watch, especially when Halliburton gets
it going.

Speaker 1 (02:10:56):
Oh and I think it's decent basketball.

Speaker 2 (02:10:58):
But if you were you mentioned the cas well like, listen,
a man has to go through this to get over
the hull to tip for the tipping point right right,
and okay, see, okay, she's not going anywhere. Like they're
gonna be around for a long time. They're good, so

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it'll be interesting to see kind of what happens.

Speaker 4 (02:11:22):
Yeah, and maybe you know, okay, see makes it in
this kind of win or lose. Puts them on on
the map, excuse me, put some on the map for
the first time, and the casuals get to see Shay
and how spectacular of a player that he is, and
maybe something grows out of that.

Speaker 1 (02:11:34):
But just generally.

Speaker 4 (02:11:36):
Speaking, when you look at the marquee and you see
Oklahoma City versus Indiana, you're like what you're like.

Speaker 2 (02:11:42):
That because you know it'll be good basketball. I think
it'll be good basketball.

Speaker 4 (02:11:47):
I'll be a very entertaining series, honestly, do you all right?

Speaker 3 (02:11:52):
So let's let's let's look at this.

Speaker 2 (02:11:55):
If Yannis we expect Giannis to leave the East, correct,
so Yanice goes to the Spurs like that, that trade
has to happen. Now it makes too much sense, I
mean it just it just does. So Yannis leaves the East.
Look at the Eastern Conference right now. Yeah, Davim is

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gonna be coming off of the achilles.

Speaker 4 (02:12:21):
I mean he's gonna miss the entire season most likely.
I mean, if he comes back, it'll be lot.

Speaker 3 (02:12:26):
Think it comes back toward the end of the year,
but whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:12:29):
Right, Chiles is tough, so I know, and if he
comes back, even if he does come back, he's gonna
be a shell of himself at least his first couple
of games or his first twenty right games, working through that.

Speaker 1 (02:12:38):
Right, the Knicks again, are I I like them?

Speaker 6 (02:12:44):
I think I like their great and everything else, but
they're not a great team.

Speaker 4 (02:12:48):
No, no, and no.

Speaker 1 (02:12:51):
Look look how bad the conference is.

Speaker 2 (02:12:53):
Yannis leaves and you're gonna have Indie Abbit the Knicks.

Speaker 3 (02:12:59):
Cleveland told you they're for Gayzy.

Speaker 4 (02:13:01):
Yeah, well, I mean they also had health issues pop
up at the.

Speaker 1 (02:13:05):
Wrong time, so that didn't help.

Speaker 2 (02:13:06):
True.

Speaker 4 (02:13:07):
True, I still think that they're a really good team
and if healthy that they they'll still be the class
of the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 3 (02:13:13):
Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (02:13:14):
Yes, I think Boston is gonna have to consider breaking
some stuff up.

Speaker 1 (02:13:19):
They're over the second luxury tax.

Speaker 4 (02:13:21):
Apron Tatum is gonna be out most likely to be
honest all of next season. So if you're a Boston
just looking at next season, what are you are? You're
good enough to make the postseason, sure without you know
you have enough talent to do that. But over the
second apron are you gonna have to move some guys,
whether that's Drew Holliday or Prezingis. You can't do a

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full on rebuild, but you're definitely gonna have to retool.
You can't come back and look them the same way
that you look this year. It's not even financially feasible
right now.

Speaker 2 (02:13:50):
It's funny, like, you know, there's talk about the sixers
that they go because you're like, well, we're gonna try
to try to compete and maybe they'll use the third
pick as some sort of trade. And I'm like, no,
I know it's wide open, but as long as you
can't if you can't count on embiid right then I

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just think it's fool's goal. That's a mirage.

Speaker 4 (02:14:15):
Well, also, you'd have to attach the third pick to something,
and what are you attaching it to. You don't even
have any tradable assets than anybody will want. Your only
tradable asset is Maxican. You're not trading him, so what
are you getting?

Speaker 1 (02:14:28):
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:14:29):
No, and you're not going to trade George now he's
at the all time lowe Jordan Embiid both all time
low from a standpoint, and you're and for people to
take the contract like I was trying to get you
to take the emb contract.

Speaker 1 (02:14:45):
Yeah, that's right, I ain't doing it.

Speaker 2 (02:14:48):
I just don't think though. I just don't think you
have any success unless he unless they show you that
they could come back, in which case then you could
be a contender. But I think it's sl tits. It
at a slim.

Speaker 4 (02:15:01):
It's highly unlikely at this point, which is unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (02:15:05):
Yeah, uh, all right, the hockey's interesting. So you got
Game six tonight Dallas and Rampman.

Speaker 3 (02:15:16):
I like, you got Man and Man, right.

Speaker 2 (02:15:20):
You got ranting in and the Winnipeg game six tonight
and in Game seven tomorrow between Florida Toronto.

Speaker 1 (02:15:29):
Yeah, she'll be exciting.

Speaker 4 (02:15:30):
Well, first of all, having a Game seven obviously is
uh was what you look forward to the most.

Speaker 1 (02:15:35):
And I love the.

Speaker 4 (02:15:36):
NHL more than any other postseason because of the unpredictability
of it. You know, if we talk about goalies, or
like relief pitchers, you never know what one's gonna get
hot or what.

Speaker 2 (02:15:45):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:15:45):
It really just adds an extra layer of excitement like
postseason hockey for anybody that's never been to a just
a hockey game in general in person is spectacular, and
then the playoffs is just next level. So this, I
don't know about you with this. The Stanley Cup playoffs
have been really exciting to watch.

Speaker 2 (02:15:59):
Oh my god, Yeah, oh my god, it's been great,
been fantastic. All right, real quick, I gotta do this
because we needn't get back to the college football schedule. Yeah,
because we spent a lot of good part on the NFL. Well,
take a look at the college for a second. You

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get started week zero, and this is what I want
to see. I want to see them blow out week zero.
It's August twenty third. Now you've got four games Stanford, Hawaii,
Fresno State and Kansas, Sam Houston, Western Kentucky and a

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k State in Iowa State.

Speaker 1 (02:16:43):
How exciting? Well, Ky State, Iowa State's a good game.

Speaker 4 (02:16:47):
IM it's sure conference game, but it's fine. It's fine,
but it's not necessarily getting my juices flowing, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 6 (02:16:54):
I hear you, But it isn't it time now to
blow out Week zero?

Speaker 4 (02:17:00):
Yes, I've been saying this for four years now, right,
what's the play you gotta do it? Just to have
a giant rollout on on the Labor Day weekend and
start it there. If you want to start on Thursday
with the Thursday Night slate, which is also not that impressive,
but fine, but that Saturday before with the week zero,
there's never there's never a game of substance in Week zero, never.

Speaker 1 (02:17:24):
Of major substance or major consequence.

Speaker 3 (02:17:27):
What I would do, this is what I would do
for college football.

Speaker 2 (02:17:31):
I would start that Saturday, and I would have a
bunch of games. I would play that Sunday, that Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, right,
and I have a week the week of football for
college you're gonna tell me that people wouldn't watch that, Oh.

Speaker 4 (02:17:52):
They eat it up. I mean I would even start
the Friday before. I wouldn't even start on Saturday, like
say August thirtieth. That's start Friday the twenty ninth and
roll it out there.

Speaker 2 (02:18:00):
Well, no, Week zero is the twenty third, correct, So
you want to start the twenty second.

Speaker 4 (02:18:05):
So you say well, I guess I would start at
I guess I will start a week later than that,
a week later than that, unless you so you want
the twenty third, So you want the twenty third to
be week one, basically you want full slate.

Speaker 2 (02:18:16):
There I want, and here's what I want, Like, I
wouldn't play all, I wouldn't have it all the games
that day I pick like, you know, three decent ones.
But I also play on Sunday and then Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
Friday into the following week.

Speaker 1 (02:18:33):
Every single night.

Speaker 2 (02:18:34):
Yeah, the week of cod it's the way to open
you want to talk about open it up in a
grand fashion. You play every night from August twenty third
on to to Labor Day weekend.

Speaker 4 (02:18:51):
I think there might be a little bit of fatigue
depending on what those matchups are on an every single
night basis what.

Speaker 6 (02:18:57):
Fatigue it's gone. You miss it, you'll you'll eat up
every game.

Speaker 4 (02:19:03):
Well, assuming every game is you have to have a
compelling matchup every single night.

Speaker 1 (02:19:07):
That's the one.

Speaker 2 (02:19:07):
Well, I mean, you know, listen, if it's Tuesday, you
could throw a maction game.

Speaker 4 (02:19:13):
Yeah, which is not going to have the same bite
as you know, Georgia and LSU.

Speaker 1 (02:19:18):
Or something, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:19:20):
I'm telling you to open up the season with the
the the eight day, where it would be like the
nine days of football.

Speaker 1 (02:19:32):
I think that might have.

Speaker 2 (02:19:35):
Actually I would go and I would play up until
the Thursday, and I had month, I had Tuesday Wednesday
in the equation.

Speaker 4 (02:19:42):
Well, in the perfect world, you would have football all day,
every day, all year long.

Speaker 2 (02:19:45):
Well, but just to start it, right, Like you're right,
but like, just to start it? How great would that be?

Speaker 1 (02:19:51):
College football? Oh my god?

Speaker 4 (02:19:53):
Like I love college football. It's it's phenomenal, obviously, but
doing it on it every night. But I think this
is what ends up ended up hurting May League baseball
in the NBA. There's too much of it. You gotta
be able to spread it out a little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:20:04):
Okay, but it's right. Disagree because.

Speaker 2 (02:20:09):
Football only runs from the end of August to January.

Speaker 1 (02:20:15):
You're right, it's a scarce product. I get that, so
whereas baseball is nine months. Right, So that's right.

Speaker 2 (02:20:23):
I disagree, And I think you can get away with
a week just as it's special to kick it off.

Speaker 1 (02:20:28):
Oh my god, I'm.

Speaker 4 (02:20:29):
Willing to concede to an experiment, but Ultimately, I think that.

Speaker 2 (02:20:34):
Ball game you see the beginning, like move some of
the bad ball games to the beginning.

Speaker 4 (02:20:41):
Yeah, you can do that, and especially if it's if
there's nothing else going on, which typically there is, and
especially in the preseason NFL people don't even pay attention
to that anymore because starters don't play, I know, So
take advantage of it to a certain degree. Yes, but
every single salitary night for ten days. Yes, overkill, come
fig total overkill. All right, let me we'll run it
by the brain. Come up, you know, I want to.

Speaker 1 (02:21:01):
See where Brad thinks about this.

Speaker 2 (02:21:02):
All right, all right, we're the fellas hanging right here
Fox Sports Radio. All right, welcome back, fellas, Cake fig
Cuz hanging with you now joining us to take a
look at the world of sports from a Betty standpoint.

Speaker 1 (02:21:19):
Oh man, the brain, Brad Fiber, Good morning.

Speaker 5 (02:21:23):
Brain, Good morning, how are you today.

Speaker 1 (02:21:27):
Good buddy?

Speaker 3 (02:21:28):
All right, So.

Speaker 1 (02:21:31):
Settle this for us.

Speaker 2 (02:21:33):
So I have another idea, this one college football. Are
you ready? I want to go because you know you
have week zero. So this year week zero falls August
twenty third, So I want to run games from August
twenty third through the labor day Monday actually through Wednesday

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after labor, leading it to the NFL opener, and I'm
going to call it there whatever, ten days of football
every day. I'll figure something out. But basically, it's the
kickoff of the season.

Speaker 3 (02:22:13):
What do you think of that?

Speaker 5 (02:22:15):
It would be? It'd be great? Look it would it
would be? It would be, it would shine, it would shine?
I mean, how would how would it not be good?
I would have instiader saying, well, I think of it.
I'd say, how would that not work? I think I
think it's like, I don't know how that wouldn't be good?

Speaker 1 (02:22:31):
I guess, Brad. My only pushback was that it will be.

Speaker 4 (02:22:33):
That's a lot of football for mini consecutive nights, and
to get all the eyeballs that you're looking for, it's
going to be spread fairly fan, especially the deeper you
get into the week and spreading all the matchups out.

Speaker 1 (02:22:43):
So I thought it might a little bit too much.

Speaker 5 (02:22:46):
I you know, it's funny though, but I mean, you know,
this seem like to me like football is such king
that I feel like the almost again. I think it's like,
you know, all you can eat the thing and everyone
going there weighs three hundred pounds. You know, it's like
it's just it's you know, I think it's going to
be a success. And that's just my opinion. And you know,

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I don't think I just don't think football can never
really be oversaturated. I just feel it's that it's one
thing I see, it's almost just it just it's never
gotten that point. So I see what you're saying, but
I really don't think that would be an issue.

Speaker 2 (02:23:22):
Well, the other argument, figure, is this so fake? Think
about this, when you kick off the college basketball season.
You have college basketball games every night all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:23:33):
True, now that's popular of a sport, but yeah, well.

Speaker 3 (02:23:37):
Right, and I would just package it together.

Speaker 2 (02:23:40):
And even again, you run the twenty third through Labor Day,
the ten Days of college Football brought to you by
Capitol Walks.

Speaker 1 (02:23:49):
See. I was just getting rid of saying you put
a sponsor behind it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:23:52):
Absolutely, if there's a way to make money and monetize it,
would I would knock them for trying it. Part of
me just wonders if there's a certain sect of the
audience who are just like you know, I can't you
can't watch every single game, and I want to watch
this many.

Speaker 6 (02:24:03):
Games but you but think about this, like you miss it, right,
don't you miss it?

Speaker 1 (02:24:08):
Yeah? Right?

Speaker 2 (02:24:09):
So, like I don't know how you are, but like
when the season happens, like the first week of baseball,
I watched like a million baseball games, I'm like, oh,
this is great, it's back.

Speaker 1 (02:24:18):
It's back.

Speaker 2 (02:24:19):
Then you settle it to your routine. So I think
you would have people looking a wall. Yeah, it's you know,
it's the summer, it's the August twenty six a game on. Yeah,
it's what's my appetite for the NFL?

Speaker 4 (02:24:34):
Yeah, I understand the rationale behind it. And well, there's
nothing pulling you away. You're in the dog days of
the baseball season and the NFL hasn't started yet.

Speaker 1 (02:24:42):
I mean it's preseason. No one cares.

Speaker 4 (02:24:44):
So I understand. I totally get it. I understand your
side of the argument.

Speaker 1 (02:24:49):
All right, I'm glad. I'm glaid.

Speaker 3 (02:24:51):
It sounds like you're not totally against it.

Speaker 1 (02:24:54):
I'm not. I'm not. Yeah, I just know.

Speaker 4 (02:24:56):
I just know it can be a lot and there's like, oh,
you know, put some people in the position of picking
and choosing, you know, especially people with family responsibilities, Like
all right, what night am I watching or what night
am I not versus I got this whole Saturday between
you know, this time and this time.

Speaker 1 (02:25:12):
Don't talk to me. I got a bunch of football.
I gotta watch right right right, right, right, right right right.

Speaker 6 (02:25:17):
I let's get into it break. Last night. You and
I talked about it earlier yesterday. We both liked the
Knicks last night and that that seemed to be an
easy one.

Speaker 5 (02:25:29):
We'll think about this, Anthony, think about this, and I said,
I said to people, I go the Knicks, I think
won whatever, fifty one to sixty two games, whatever it was, bossion.
When they're sixty, you're taking off from their team, undoubtedly
a top six player in the NBA, their best player,
and you're taking off. You can argue to me whether
you want to skip John Brown or secondst player leads

(02:25:51):
or third best persingis or Derek White perzingis. I guess
technically played, but he was I can't even say limited
to me. He was like a I mean, you know,
he wasn't in essence really not playing. So you're taking
away probably the first and third best players, and you're
saying that the Knicks are still the better are the
worst team still? Because Boston was favored by five in

(02:26:12):
that game five and the Knicks were only between two
and a half and three yesterday, And I'm like, I just,
I just that's just not right. You cannot tell me
that the Knicks are not as good when you take
away the first and third best player from from Boston.
That's just false. And you know we saw yesterday and
in Boston was obviously severely compromised, and yeah, it was

(02:26:37):
just it was like it was a dream game from
a Knicks fan, right and from Selvin Vaders. You couldn't
have had more of a dream game than that. I
call those those avalanche games where it just it just
goes if like a snowball going downhill and there was
nothing they could do to stop it.

Speaker 4 (02:26:54):
So I know we still have the game seven coming
up on sign of between Devor and Okay, see, yeah,
for the future project a little just sticking with the
Eastern Conference. You know, At and I were talking a
little bit earlier about Indiana and New York and how
we like Indiana because they have so much depth. How
do you handicap this series as it gets started on Wednesday?

Speaker 5 (02:27:12):
You know, it's fifty I agree with that and here's
the thing. I was a little disappointed in the number
that came out. I was hoping hoping, especially after they
won by a zillion yesterday, that maybe i'd be able
to take plus a dollar sixty, Maybeoul coming up one
to eighty one fifty, maybe one seventy one fifty. I
really was hoping that. But no, nixt a small favorite

(02:27:34):
between I think the dollar thirty dollars forty favorite so
Indiana getting their respect, which I think is merited. I
think Indiana is actually going to win. But I was
really hoping to play Indiana getting a nice price plus
a dollar twenty, not at not the price I was
necessarily a little brought to. I was gonna get a
better price than that. But I do think it's gonna

(02:27:54):
be a good series. I think it's gonna be close.
I lean Indiana to win it. But again, I was
really hoping that the Knicks would get a little more
respect based off the fact they'd beat Boston so easily.
I was just hoping it would be a little bit higher.
But yeah, I think it's made a good series, but
I do lean Indiana to win it.

Speaker 2 (02:28:14):
Yeah, I'm with you. I think the same thing I
thought I'm shocked, became. I thought that Knicks were going
to get all kinds of big love in that series.

Speaker 5 (02:28:24):
Yeah, yeah, I do too, So I thought so too.
But again, listen to me, what was more impressive watching
the Knicks beat Boston or watching Indiana beat Cleveland? To me,
it wasn't close. To me, it was watching Indiana beat Cleveland.
I just feel Boston, especially after Tatum went down it again.
I I mean again, I picked myself. I did very

(02:28:48):
well live betting that game, but I kicked myself for
not really even going more aggressive on New York because
I you know, sometimes you see a line and you
almost overanalyze, like what am I missing? What am I missing?
And that was one of those lines that what am
I missing here? Why? I mean, they're saying Nicks are
not better than the team and you take away two

(02:29:09):
of the three best player that it's just not possible,
and especially an important game when you're getting max effort.
And you know we saw that again yesterday. So I
again looking forward the series. And then you mentioned, guys
the game seven of the Oklahoma City like Denver. Yeah, well,
it's funny to me. It comes down guys Aaron Gordon
Aaron Gordon, if you've been watching this postseason for Denver

(02:29:32):
has been they've gone true big three right. Obviously Jokic
and Murray we all know about, but Aaron Gordon has
played phenomenal. Okay, and to me he's questionable with the
hamstring injury if he's healthy. Look, this line sitting around
eight eight and a half easy lean for Denver for me, easy,
I mean, listen, at some point you just have to

(02:29:54):
like say, all right, this is what it is. And
Denver has fault his team, clawed his team and right
there with this team the entire way, and they're don't
They're not going to go away if the Aaron Goarton
plays easy side for Denver. For me, if Aaron Gorton
is out, which we still don't know yet, much suffer

(02:30:14):
things for me because I don't love Denver's depth, and
I do think if he is not there probably gonna
you know, to me would be Oklahoma city of your past.
But if he's finding easy side Denver for me, all.

Speaker 2 (02:30:28):
Right, what about anything with the hockey anything there?

Speaker 1 (02:30:36):
Well, you liked Toronto last night.

Speaker 5 (02:30:38):
We came through for me yesterday. That was a really
good one for me. Yeah, Look, they're going to play
Game seven at home against uh the Panthers. Here's the
thing like for me again, in those games, I'd much
rather play as I'm closed. Yesterday, I took plus two
oh five with Toronto. I'd rather take the plus two
o five than plus a dour ten at home. Okay,

(02:31:02):
paying one hundred cents for the whole Mikes advantage, because
to me, it's just non existent the other game. Listen, hello, book,
it's stay he least had two shutout snails every time.
You want to trust them, know, and I feel like
it's hard to do that. I do think Dallas is

(02:31:22):
going to beat Winnipeg, that is my opinion. But again
it's you know, it gets de lay about about our
forty five ish. But I do think Dallas will find
the way. I think they're better than wear a peg.
I hate laying that big bet number of brigs think
they'll do it. Game seventy thres series brood. I think
it's basically the right number. I think Florida probably wins

(02:31:42):
it a little over half the time. I'm not going
to touch in that one.

Speaker 1 (02:31:46):
Oh oh, sorry about that brat.

Speaker 4 (02:31:48):
I was gonna ask a question about the NFL with
the schedule release this y, this week, and just more
of a macro overview as someone who does this for
a living and follows us on a day to day basis,
how did the schedule release or how does the schedule
release and knowing win teams are going to play each
other affect the preseason win totals and did we see
any sort of swing in that market after this schedule

(02:32:09):
was released?

Speaker 5 (02:32:10):
You know, it's funny, it's a great question. Really doesn't
affect so much the win totals, but what it can
do is as you guys know, like they have the
individual games priced right, and you can if a team's
off short rest, you can maybe bet a certain team
a certain game, like knowing that, okay, this team's on

(02:32:32):
six days rest versusity maybe on eight days rest. Or
this team is, you know, coming off a quote unquote
untime game and a big spot and now this could
be like a spot that's it's tough for them. And
another thing you talk about season wins though, But the
one thing I do like to look at for me is,
let's suppose I'll call it a tiebreaker of sorts. Let's

(02:32:55):
suppose you're leading towards betting a team. I'll just give
you an example. And you're betting, you like a team,
Let's say a under or over. So you like the
team over eight and a half wins and their last
game of the year they play, let's say the Buffalo Bills. Okay, well,
why does that matter? It's last game in your world
is a good chance the Buffalo is my favorite win
the division. But let's call it three games that week seventeen.

(02:33:18):
They may be resting, Josh Allen. So if you look
a team over eight and a half wins and cle
in your face of Philadelphia or Buffalo, I look for
stuffling that because at the game you meet count as.

Speaker 2 (02:33:30):
An automatic real quick as we're up against it, Yes, sir,
and that makes perfect sense. Run through the what you
got today baseball, and if you have real.

Speaker 5 (02:33:40):
Quick bese Isaiah Hartenstein over two and a half assist guy,
I'm just stone cluded three and a half fourteen and
six is last twenty like Hardenstein over two and a
half assists. Clark Schmidt Yankees under five mass strikeouts Net's
fourth hardest team in the league to strikeout. Schmid doesn't
usually go on the tont of innings like him under
five may strikeouts, Tobias my Milwaukee Brewers lackeboe is nineteen

(02:34:03):
to five last year, four and oh this year, so
twenty three and five total under two and a half
runs against the Twins team No Byron bucks sits no
Carlos Korea like that got a lot mast but not
least Griffin Canning New York match to give up over
four and a half. It's yeah, Yankee second most ships
in baseball this year. Canning start over that about sixty
some percent of the time. I'll take my chances and

(02:34:24):
he gives up over four and half. That's Andyga, like
you know, well, let's you know, listen to at. I
don't like Jonathan Vegas. I don't think he's going to
get it unnecessarily. Shuffler's the big favored only three shots back.
How to pick someone made? Maybe taking a shot I
saw sixteen to one area would maybe be Kim the
Mayby have that incredible, incredible all in one on you

(02:34:48):
ever not part three. I always think he's always gut
that maybe has a chance to break through. But again
it's going to be very very hard. There's so much competition,
so many people can win it. So I'm just looking
forward to watching it.

Speaker 2 (02:35:00):
Great stuff. Brain as always Man, good stuff. We'll come back,
Fellas and wrap it up right here Fox Sports Radio.
Fellas figure, Kevin Figures, I'm Anthony gargantto Yes, don't forget
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(02:35:44):
One of the fact our man mighty Mark always another
great day. And Patrick, don't do a Patrick Patrick doing
a great job.

Speaker 1 (02:35:56):
Fell it is Patrick. Move Patrick, cho a side. I
want all the sides.

Speaker 2 (02:36:04):
You can't root for two teams in the same conference.
You can't root for two teams, but especially the same conference.

Speaker 4 (02:36:14):
Cool bro on all the sides, Man, violation of all violations.

Speaker 1 (02:36:20):
Yes it is. You can't do it. You just can't
do it.

Speaker 3 (02:36:24):
Figgie, what's on tap for you this week at Buddy
really just.

Speaker 1 (02:36:28):
Spending time with the fam.

Speaker 4 (02:36:30):
I think we might you might hit up the Freeway series.

Speaker 1 (02:36:32):
Dodgers are playing the Angels this weekend.

Speaker 4 (02:36:34):
Kershaw has first start this weekend of the season, so
we might hit that up tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:36:38):
We'll see, Uh, Toddy's ridiculous. By the way, how many
we had this week? We what two? The other mine
way the other night.

Speaker 4 (02:36:47):
One last night, you know, And every apparently every time
the Dodgers do a Bible biblehead giveaway for him, he
hits a home run. So Dave Roberts said, we should
give away to show you a biblehead every single night.
It's incredible.

Speaker 2 (02:36:58):
He's all I mean, honestly, I mean, it's not even close.

Speaker 3 (02:37:03):
He's the best baseball player I've ever seen my life.

Speaker 2 (02:37:05):
I thought Bonds right in my lifetime, right, I mean,
but my god, he teases these ridiculous and.

Speaker 1 (02:37:12):
He's not even back on the mound yet.

Speaker 4 (02:37:13):
By the way, now, no guy has cy Young caliber
stuff when he pitches, and he's not even there yet.

Speaker 1 (02:37:19):
That's how incredibly is.

Speaker 2 (02:37:20):
I will say this, speaking of baseball, that one of
the great stories of this season, and they're good and
they're going to be good, is the Tigers.

Speaker 1 (02:37:31):
Isn't it.

Speaker 4 (02:37:32):
I mean they they caught fire towards the end of lastyear.
Remember they sold they traded flared into the Dodgers. They
thought they were there, they sold off and they except
they kept winning, and all of a sudden they have
the second best record all of baseball?

Speaker 1 (02:37:42):
Like where did this come from?

Speaker 2 (02:37:46):
And they hit like Corper there? Yeah, I mean Greed's terrific.
By how about Hobby By?

Speaker 4 (02:37:52):
It as what a resurgence from him at.

Speaker 3 (02:37:55):
One last night? Another one.

Speaker 4 (02:37:59):
Don't sleep on Mark white Sox by the way, you
know now they have divine intervention behind him. Now they
got they got ever since the pope was put in
place on fire hope leo.

Speaker 6 (02:38:12):
Baby, that's right man, that's true.

Speaker 1 (02:38:16):
I love it. I love it. Favorite stories right there.

Speaker 2 (02:38:20):
Yeah, that is a great that is a great story.
Do you like this weekend a baseball the rivalry weekend?

Speaker 1 (02:38:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:38:27):
I like the whether they stack it up, I think
it's fun. Sodo getting booed out of the stadium last
night against the Yankees was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (02:38:33):
So I like the if they line this up, I
think it's really sweet. Yeah, yeah, I do too, I
do too. Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:38:39):
And then we got a little baseball at my household.
We got tournaments at ye, dude.

Speaker 1 (02:38:45):
No regard to this weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:38:47):
Yes, actually the big one had his. He had a
race yesterday, but we got hit or all these storms.

Speaker 3 (02:38:57):
So they were supposed to leave this morning.

Speaker 2 (02:38:58):
They were gonna they made they made the Cup for Nationals,
but the rising waters canceled the race.

Speaker 1 (02:39:06):
Oh that was unfortunate.

Speaker 4 (02:39:07):
I know, I know, mostly because you just can't partake
in the phenomenal spread that they have.

Speaker 2 (02:39:12):
During the Well I can't. I'm a baseball dude. So
my wife gets to do that, you know, hopeless. She
can get you a plate to go. Yeah. Well listen,
always a blast. FIG love you, buddy. We want to
thank everybody listening. We'll see you next week.

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