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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, good morning, good morning, good morning. Heaby Habby Habby,
Fox Sports Saturday Fellas, Jeff Schwartz, I'm Anthony Gargana. That's right,
We're back together again. Fitzi's off would come you alive
from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And oh my, we
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got trouble in Big D major trouble man. Jerry's making
a mess of it. Michaeh. Parsons, Jeff wants to be traded.
Oh he put out a statement on social media. Let
me get right to it for you. Yes, I wanted
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to be here. I did everything I could to show
that I wanted to be a cowboy and wear the
star on my helmet. I wanted to play in front
of the best fans in sports and make this America's
team once again great, the team my pops and I
grew up cheering for way up in Harrisburg, PA.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Unfortunately, I no longer want to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I no longer want to be held to close to
close door negotiations without my agent present. I no longer
want shots taken at me for getting injured while laying
on the line for the organizations. For the organization are
fans and my teammates. I no longer want narratives created
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and spread to the media about me. I had purposely
stayed quiet in hopes of getting something done.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Do you play the Eagles fights on in your head?
As you said that, they're just like.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
You know me? Well, yeah, we haven't worked the other
that much, but man, you know me.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Buddy, Like like I like, I always know you're gonna
be here in the morning, but like I knew this
morning you would be here. I knew like there was
like if there was like a day that you would
be here, it would be the day that the Cowboys
make national embarrassment, which which unfortunately happens way too often.
Good morning to you as well and everyone listening. Look, man, yeah,
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I don't defend Jerry Jones. It's the wrong way to
put it. But I think he does get a little
bit too much grief in the national media. I think
he actually, I think he actually does less with the
team than that we think. I think that obviously his
presence is very known, right, actual involvement in day day
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activity is not as much as we believe. So I've
always sort of cut him slack on on some.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Of this stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Right, like he he loves to be on the radio
and doing TV, like he loves those studies, he loves
the press conference. But his actual involvement you could tell
by the very end of this of the letter from
Michael Parker's where he said, I have given my request
to Stephen.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Jones, not to Jerry Jones. Stephen Jones right, his son.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
And uh but but the number one reason the Cowboys
can't win anything is Jerry Jones.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Like he's enabling this behavior and it is. It is
mind blowing to me that.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
You would would alienate such a young superstar on your
team over what's gonna amount to be not a lot
of money in the grand scheme of things, right, that
you would get to the point where a superstar of
this caliber decides early in his career, I don't want
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to be here. And look, let's how porny is for
the cow He's been there, He's been there four years.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
The Cowboys are the league's best defense with Michael Parks
is on the field, according to to e PA right,
which expected points added Okay, across basically a thousand plays.
They're the league's second worst defense when he's not on
the field. During that same during the same four years.
He is so valuable to them. He is such a
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disruptive player, right he he what he does? You know,
I'm an offensive lineman. Right, what he does would keep
us up at night. Right, where's he gonna line up?
Who's he going against? How do we make sure we
ide him? Like all these things. It's he's such an
impactful player, and for Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones and
the Cowboys to get to this point into his fifth
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year is unacceptable. It's why the Cowboys stink. The best
teams in the NFL they pay their players as early
as possible. The best example, obviously is in their own division,
where the Eagles all the time. That's how you win
in the league, right, you have to you have to
be able to see this coming and and be able
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to pay your players on ste schedule. And besides just
the salary camp ramifications of this, right where when you
pay a player early, you then set your salary cup
around that guy. What it also does is signals to
the team that we're serious, okay, and that if you
come in here and you are a player that we
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draft and we developed. The Macha Parsons would have been
good anywhere. So this is maybe not exactly apples apples discussion.
But if you if you draft, if you draft Macha Parsons,
he becomes a superstar. You reward that superstar with money.
The rest of the team sees that, and then they go,
if I play well, I didn't get paid. If I
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play well, I'll be a Dallas Cowboy. The Cowboys are
serious about winning. I want to stay here with the Cowboys.
All those things matter to growth and success of your program.
And the fact that they're still drafting the things and
I bet, look, I think he'll get a deal done.
But they should have done this last year. They should
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do after a third season. He said in the notes
app which is while that you're again your fifth year
player is notes apping you guys. He laid out the
time and I do want to talk about the negotiation
part of this in the second but he said in
there after the third season, which is when you can
negotiate a new contract.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
We went to the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
The Cowboys should have been like, here you go, here's
your money, and this would have been done with. It
would have been done, would have on the books, dude,
done with and they should have done it then, and
they're dragging their feet. It's cost them a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
So you know, obviously I know Howie Roseman very well, right,
I mean since he came into the league on their
Andy Reid in two thousand and two. So that's you
said it. That's how they do business, the Eagles, Jeffrey
Lorie in their own division. Like I've seen it for
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count I could give you dozens of players that they've
looked at and they went, Wow, then we're gonna lock
them up. And I, for the life of me, I
just don't understand it and full the full disclosure. So
the network I work for, it's called All City, right
I do. My network that I run in Philly is
called phl Y. We're owned by the same private equity
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firm that owns athletes first. The agency that reps Mike right,
it's a one. Mike is one of the Micah's agent
is from Philadelphia. I love him the death andre Otum,
and I was going back and forth. He's telling me
the whole story, and I'm going this is unbelievable. It's
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unbelievable that you would backdoor your player like you would
back door the agents and go right, try to think
you could do a deal like God bless him. I
mean I all came inside. Jerry Jones. He's an amazing man.
I mean, Covin covered the league for long time. I
got to know him a little bit. I mean he
really is. I mean, loves the sport, the whole thing.
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He's very pivotal to the success of the NFL. Yes, yes,
but my god, he has made like this is a mess.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
This is bad, really bad.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And as much as I take Lee because we joke
around in his division rivals Cowboys that you know, I
grew up hating the Cowboys, right, So it was one
of those things where there were a lot of families
that were Cowboy fans all over the country. But you know,
growing up an Eagle fan, you they were, You're mortal.
Letting me the the greatness of that franchise and to
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see what it is now is did you see shot
that having those guys run sprints?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Okay, so, and they were jogging and I was like,
oh my.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
God, Brian Dable had the Giants running sprints too. I mean,
it's it's silly for many reasons, but that.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
But the the thing.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Okay, So the other part of this that that it's
very interesting. Okay, is you mentioned it now? Michael Parsons
said in the in the notes app right that that
he went to talk to Jerry about his leadership and
there was There was further reported by Jane Slater who
said that, you know, their teammates have questioned Michael Parson's
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leadership because he goes on his podcast and talks about
the team as a team leader, even though he might
not be in the building. Okay, essentially what Jane said.
And I really do think like there's an and I've
said this before to friends, like I don't like the podcasting,
Like when you're a young football player, I just don't.
I don't like it. It doesn't mean it's wrong or that.
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I just think, like when you're young, just do football
and do podcasting later, like Max Crossing having a podcast.
Be my guest, you like, right, like the Kelsey's Yeah
to all famers, be my guest. But you know they
didn't do it. Jason didn't do it in year two.
He did it in year twelve, you know what I mean.
Like Travis didn't do it until they won two Super Bowls.
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Like it's you know what I mean, Like it's it's
it seemed like that was time for that to do that.
I get why there's pushback on parsons podcast, and I
get that he does say things sometimes in absolutes that
the team might not feel that that's an absolute right. Okay,
So he went into Like I said, he went into
talked to Jerry about leadership in March, which I think
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is actually interesting that he sort of noticed it. Maybe
how can I be a better leader? And then Jerry
ambushed him with the contract talk, and they talked a
little bit about the contract, and it appears that they
left the meeting. The Cowboys did that with a with
an understanding that they deal had a deal. Mike I said, no,
we don't. I have to go with my agent. And
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they have not talked spoken to his agents since. And
the audacity to think that Michael Parsons was dumb enough
to not include his agent is also something that has to.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Be discussed here. Oh my god, they don't. That's not
a protocol.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
They thought he was dumb enough to not include agent
in this, which is another Now, the Cowboys a buddy
of mine who knows him very well, I mean, he said,
this is what they always do. Like they always try
to do this to people. They always try to work
around the agent, which I mean again in itself, is
that like a scummy thing to do?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
No, not exactly, but yeah it is. It's like, but
you got reps. Like it's like it's a kid, now,
go with me here, Jeff, it's a kin to pull
if police talking to somebody without their lawyer like you.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Oh, no, I know, yeah, you cannot do that.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I mean there's a reason why you need an agent, right,
you need a profession in your bath.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
But then the police will then talk to the lawyer
when they show up, right, Like Jerry won't talk to
his agent, I know, which, which again it is like
a whole here, like so it's not just that they
won't don't negotiate it all. They're just they're just going
about this in a very unorthodox way. And the thing
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is is that again, like you have sort of there's
a very funny story I'm gonna butcher probably some of
this where Jimmy Johnson, former Cowboys head coach, tells a
story about guys sleeping right in the meeting room. He goes,
you know, if a seventh round pick on director Pagett
was sleep in the meeting room.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I would I'd cut him, right.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I thought them by the meeting and find him and
cut him. But tray can will sleep on and give
him a pillow, right, Like you have different standards for
different players, of course, Like that's the way, that's the
way life is. Where I think it's fair unfair, but
like that's what that's what football is as well, right,
better player, you get afforded some other opportunities other players
do not, and come a seventh round pick.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
It pissed me off sometimes.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Where first round picks get like fourth chances in the NFL,
I had one seventh round pick, right, But that's.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
What the league is.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
And so you have different sort of philosophies when it
comes to these and for persons, you shouldn't treat him
like he is a jerk off like he could like
he very again, I might disagree with the podcast itself,
like him doing the podcast, but when you listen to
him talk, he very clearly is not dumb, Like he's
very aware of football and himself and and and what's
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in hand here. And so the Cowboys like thinking that
they're gonna pull one over on him, This to me
is just is again just ludicrous. And again they might
work out a deal, Like it's very possible that they
work out a deal and we look dumb tomorrow and
there's a new contract.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
But at what cost is this? Right?
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Like another one of these, Like here we go again,
the Cowboys aren't paying their best players?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
What cost? What costs it?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Just it feels like the cost of doing this every
time is so not worth it.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Dude, it's so that worth it from a reason.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
And it's just not how you do business with your
best players.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I mean, I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
How they how they build their team out with their actions.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I honestly, I have no idea what they're doing with.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
The overpay for players because because because they don't get
deals done fast, I mean, that's how they do it,
Like they overpay for everyone. I mean, like that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That's like when they turned a horrible cap situation and
they don't have to and they don't have their best No,
and I'm just pointing this out. They're in a terrible
cap situation and they don't have their best player signed.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
What does that tell you that?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
And again I I you know, I was having this
conversation that my local show in Philadelphia, Like, and this
is where you would the teams that do it right,
it's it's glaring.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Oh yeah, it's just glaring. How in the world could.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You possibly your best player of defense? But even Jerry
you gotta to stop him from talking too, because he
just kills the situation.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I mean he does.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
He's talking ill about his quarterback, right who is without
Dak prest Well, however you feel about Dak Prescott. Without
Doc Dak Prescott, they're a joke, right like they have
and they're they're unwatchable, right like they're an unwatchable team.
They do not belong anywhere near a prime time They're
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not interesting, they're not good without Dak Prescott. And the
two guys that you're burying are your two most important players.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I just don't understand it.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
And also when you pay players early, they tend to
take less because they're pumped. Like imagine you're twenty four
years old, twenty five, of course, and someone comes to
you and they're like, here's one hundred million dollars. You
could wait a year and get one hundred and twenty.
You're like, no, no, give me a hundred right now,
I'll take it. Like they know they take us, you
take us money all the time, because sure, I go
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back to it again, where like you feel wanted, like
think about life, like you want to feel wanted by
your employer, you and paying someone early they feel wanted,
And now he's gonna bleed you for every freaking dollar
you have, as they should, by the way, like they
absolutely he absolutely should do that. So it's just it's
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a really awful way to do business. And I don't
know why the Cowboys are insistent on continuing to do
it this way, but this is what they do. And
they're going to cost him a ton of money in
this situation because Parsons now and he's not gonna sign
for anything less than the most money ever for a
non quarterback, right, I mean, I get why would he?
I mean, at this point, it's just a it's a
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lot of grief and a lot of time spent talking
about this situation, a lot of hurt feelings that necessary,
just a lot of these things that just don't feel
worth the squeeze here man and the Cowboys continually do this.
They continue to put this onse BA situations again. Your
your fourth year player starts, your team is is on
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the internet.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I mean, just everyon's on the internet, you.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Know, telling you how much he doesn't want to play
for you anymore. When he's supposed to be the anchor
of your team and the guy you build around for
future generations of Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
It's laughable, it's crazy crazy. Michael pars is a great player,
a great player. He's a difference maker. You know, you
only have a handful of them, you know better than anybody.
You only have a handful on a team. A guy
on either side of the ball, that's it. That's an
honest to goodness weapon that can change the game. And
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he's that freak of a player. Oh yeah, wow wow.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
But some of my my lane Johnson like is the
best offensive line in the NFL. Take which I mean
he is? Is that the way he plays against Michael
Parsons like he he has really well against him, And
that that to me is like another one of those
like here's another another data point. But I promise you
when he gets ready to play him, he's got some
sleepless nights. I mean, that's what That's what happens right
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when he's in That's those are the guys you want
to pay man. Yeah, the one you're like, get out
that that's the guy. I want it to pay. I
want to make my team around him. And the thing too,
is like if you go to trade him, there's just
even not a lot of teams that can afford two
first round picks essentially and in a contract extentsion. Because
he's that that's what he's worth him. He's he'll get
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whatever obviously he'll get. That's that deal in a heartbeat
from someone. But is it worth? Is he worth two
first round?
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Like?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Is it really worth like that? Angst? I just man, oh,
I just don't.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You never get you never get in return for a
great player, whatever the comp is, unless it's absurdity like
the herschel Walker trade you know to the Vikings years
and years ago with the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You're never going to get any kind of value for it.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
And and worse, you just look horrible within your own
locker room.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
What's that say to everybody else?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
If you don't pay Michael Parsons, and not only not
pay him, but you make a mockery of him, you
try to backdoor the situation without his agent, You talk
ill of him.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
You do that, they're making him look at a fool,
Like yes, he doesn't. Obviously he doesn't, you know, he's
not a fool. Obviously wouldn't you know, But it feels
like they're trying to make him out.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
To be this fool.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, and that that messaging to the rest of your
team like you'll never win, You're just not gonna win.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
No, your team's not gonna come together.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
And Jeff, we gotta take quick too, will come right back.
But also like hiring this coach some of the other
questionable moves. I don't going into seasons with no running
back or just washed running backs. I don't understand how
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they what they're looking at. We gotta talk all about it.
We got lots to get to a crazy MLB trade deadline. Yeah,
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Speaker 2 (22:11):
I welcome back fellas, Jeff Schwartz Anthony Garganta talking about
the insanity in Dallas. So, Jeff, so we will get
back into Micah for a second. But let's look at
the Cowboys and the litanyum mistakes. I mean we touched
on a little bit, but Brian Schottenheimer as your coach,
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are you serious about winning?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Like how? I still don't. I don't get that.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I don't get going into seasons that fit at running
back last year this year getting two guys that Miles
Sanders and poor Davonte Williams not the same Anthony knee injury.
I don't even understand that.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
So I actually think Dallas is a pretty talented football team.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Look, would you sort of.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
One way to preview teams is I just look at
as sort of what I call the game wreckers, right,
Like who are the guys you highlight?
Speaker 8 (23:14):
Like?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
These are like the dudes? Right?
Speaker 4 (23:16):
They have a good amount of dudes right now. I
don't know if you can Dak healthiest is that guy?
He's not the best quarterback, but he's a dude. He
can wreck a game for you, right if you're on defense.
They have offense alignment that can certainly do that. Now
one of them is hurt right now, which is unfortunate,
but that is that in Tyler Smith is an All
Pro left guard. Lamb and Pickens, Yeah, two good wide receivers.
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Parsons obviously, and some of the guys in the secondary
or those players.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Like they have.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
They got a good amount of those guys now that
you have roster deficiencies that you mentioned at running backs
one of them and I don't know why they just
have refused to drive other than saying like maybe they
thought they overpaid for Zeke and just don't want to
go back down that roads possible, which you know, teams
certainly have the right to feel that way when they
have when they make some mistakes every now and then.
But it doesn't make that much sense. What happening addressed
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that position is Dak's been best when they've had a
run game.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yes, he has, just he has been and it's those
real quick there's those shoes to go in with those backs.
When you got to be able to draft one, you
can get backs in the in the fourth and you know,
third fourth round, you can get backs, good quality college
backs everywhere.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And the Mingo trade, Like what was that about.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
I don't I don't know what they're doing sometimes it's
really hard to decipher.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
It's me and don't.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I don't know if they know what they're doing sometimes either,
which is which is the problem. And I actually think
if Parses does come back, they are like they're not
they're they're I think they're undervalue this year, Like the
window is like seven and a half. It's a little
bit low for what I think the team can be.
I don't like Sean Heimer, which certainly does and help
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discussion at all. I just don't think he's going to
be a good coach, and giving him the reins to
the team I don't, probably not the best decision in
the end. But if Jack's healthy, the team has always
been very competitive, so I don't think it's the worst
team of the world. But the problem is obviously the
drama around them and and all that that that's that
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adds up. Like you when you when Ceedee Lamb is
out here, you know, tweeting, like just pay the man
like those those are things that other teams don't have
to worry about their best players online begging the team
to pay their other best players. It's it's not me
that most teams have to worry about. And here we
are again with the Cowboys with extracurricular things really wrecking
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with with you know, with with a team chemistry.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, man, I I I just don't get it.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And and you look, say what you want and hey,
Brian chattanhar Brian chattaharm returns out to be a good folks.
I just did not get that highed like you. And
you're in a situation where you need a real good
coach to help turn this thing around. I think they're
drafting has been buying large pretty.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Good, like it has been, especially offensive line. I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
They have, you know, resistant temptation, I think to go
sexy route like they've I think made buying large some
good picks, the right picks. They have not been coach well,
I mean since Jimmy Johnson. Look the parade of coaches, right,
I mean McCarthy was good, but other than that, who's
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been good? You tried for the same guy where it's
a coach that only has a modicum of power, right
a coach. You can say what you want about Belichick.
I thought they should have kicked the tires around him.
I get it. The girlfriend everything else to guy. The
guy's a great I'm sorry, you can't tell me you're
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not gonna go there to This is the point you're
trying to make. He's not going there with zones in charge.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Right and that and that's that is the point where
you're got to go.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
The fact that you take yourself out of the running
for a Belichick is a problem.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
That's a huge issue. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
And it's that way because they refuse to give up,
you know, control of of what's happening. Yeah, it's it's
not I don't I don't think it's gonna change anytime soon.
I mean, Jerry's not getting rid of the team.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
No.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
But listen, you go sit with with Belichick and you
check your ego. I mean, maybe there's a chance you
can land them. It's about checking your ego. It's about checking,
you know, changing the power. It's not been working. You've
you have not, you've not. This has not worked. And
if it's not working, you have to change the way
(27:59):
or alter the way that you do business.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
I'm dude, I'm gonna agree with you, and I think
that it's just not going to change till Jerry essentially
gives the team to his son, I think, and again,
it's becoming more and more clear that the reason they
haven't won is just it's just Jerry, and it's just
it's just it's just the philosophy of the team. And
(28:24):
you know, if you're a Cowboys fan, you probably know this,
but that's been the issue, and it becomes more apparent.
I think every time Jerry speaks about this is something
that you know, he's the one holding him back. And
it's unfortunate because the cow Again, the Cowboys have had
talent over the years, they've been closeer than we might
(28:44):
give him credit for, but they haven't even playing a
conference title game since nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
It's kind of insane. Nuh, I mean, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It's crazy when you think about that, it's insane. Generations
of people. It's twenty five years ago, thirty years ago,
thirty years ago, yeah, thirty years ago, and.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Since that time, all the Giants have won two, but
they played in three. I think in that time, Eagles
have won two, but they've played in how many since
that they played a four?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I think since that.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Time, So like they've you know, these teams are your
other teams in your division are playing well except you,
right again. I mean the Commanders have been mostly lifeless,
but I seem to have some more life now, right.
You know, they even play obviously played in one last season,
So everyone else has had his life around you except
except you.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I mean, it's it's a Cowboys problem now.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, No, there's no there's there's no way else to
look at it, you know, I mean ninety five, nineteen
ninety five, I think about that.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
It's it's insane.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
It's been that long, and you've lost all the cachet
that you had as his team is one of these
elite franchises.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
It went up and smoke, I still think. But you
think it's it's crazy. It's it's people still look at
them as America's team. Look, I'll tell you what, man,
I I do stuff for Fox. Know any any Cowboys
content by Fly Fly is still it does. I mean,
it's just it's just like that, like still like it.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
They're polarizing.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I mean, there's still a lot of fans they have
a lot they have they have advanced fan base.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
But it's the same thing where like people want to
age it out. But you know, like they like they
want the train wreck, like they want to watch it.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
So what they want.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
They people are are watching it, man, They're they're watching
for the craziness, the madness, the crazy things. Jerry says,
like their people are watching. Man, It's just it's so,
you know.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
My mains outside Chuck from Great Listener of ours it
Kentucky good Saturday morning because the Dallas Cowboys imploding love
it and for there's a there's a zillion Southside Chucks,
including myself saying the same thing.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Oh, I'm this is like, this is I mean, the
rest of the division is probably even Giants Matcher probably
like yeah, calling for football.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
I'll be back. It's just it.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Just it feels it's such a self afflictive thing, like no,
why are we Why the Cowboys? Why are they here
right now? They shouldn't be here. They should just pay
the guy and move on.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
That's crazy, It really is. It's how to destroy a brand.
And I and I love all I love older people right,
like they're filled with wisdom great stories the whole thing.
And I never like to you know, even joke about
you know, Jerry and his age and that sort of thing.
(32:00):
But how he conducts businesses just completely antiquated. Like the
idea of him trying to backdoor Mike's agent, and I
mean that's a practice that's done in nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Yeah, I mean this is my point, My point too
about like they just think that Michael was dumb enough
to do it like like that. That's also like again,
this is also part of it to me, Like they
thought that, like he's dumb enough to like to not
to just okay a deal in you know, in the
meeting with Jerry, right again, is is just not giving
(32:36):
him the credit for being smarter than that they thought
that he was gonna be like but no, listen, sign
me up, Jerry, I'm in. It's like no, yea, yeah,
like no, he gotta be involved. So that's why you
pay the guy, right, so't.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Don't you think it's everything he does is just feels antiquated, right,
Like that's that was a practice that would happen inineteen
eighty five, right, Uh, the owner coming out as the
omnipotent right and powerful, most powerful man, ripping his players
(33:11):
like I'm going to rip my two best players.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Well, in nineteen eighty five, guys would do that. He
don't do that today.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Like a lot of his practices, a lot of his views,
he feels like he's stuck in another time.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Yes, yeah, it really does feel that way. And maybe
for him he I mean, yeah, it feels like it
only feels that way, where like it's just it's just
not he doesn't he has not cut up yet to
maybe the way business is done now and again it
continues to hurt his ability to have the best team
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he can have.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, yeah, all right, I gotta take a quick too.
Would you think of the Hall of Fame game? Great
to have it back, wasn't it?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
It really was? Well, just gos coming up.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
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(34:43):
it just great? Take whatever? It was great just to
see it, wasn't it?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
So?
Speaker 4 (34:53):
I have a rule about the preseason and people didn't
like this a little bit of the internet.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
But who cares about the Internet. They're not real people.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Like I'm gonna let some like random person save means
things to me the Internet? Yeah, like they would never
do that in real life. How many times I've been
talking to the way people talk to me the internet
in real life? How about zero zero rhymes? Yeah, I
hear what that? I love the thing where like you,
you blocked to me people on the Internet. No, I
don't block enough. I don't care immediate bo who cares?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
You know, if you watch the preseason, okay, it's your
choice to watch a preseason, no complaining about what you're watching.
You're not all complain about. It's a third stringers and
it's it's sloppy and no, no, you chose to watch it. Okay,
we should celebrate football. Yeah the Lions play sloppy? Yeah
today maybe already bet on them to win their next
(35:47):
preseason game. Maybe I have, but it's a preseason. Hey,
Like things are weird, things are gonna happen. And to
your point, football was back, baby, if football to have
to have Tarika and Collinsworth and and and and and uh.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Brown was there in the booth as well, it was
It was great. It was awesome.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
And you know Harbaugh and and and uh and Campbell
and I mean, sign sign me up. How fun was that?
So glad football was back. We'll get more Obviously, preseason,
I believe on Friday, Saturday, Sunday is when the next
round the games are so looking forward to it. Man,
it's just you know, signal that that we're here, We're
(36:29):
we're here.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
That's it, right, It's so true, man, it does. It's
signals we're here. Yeah, Thursday night we got uh colch Ravens, Eagles,
Bengals and Raiders, Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
That's your Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
And we had three games on Friday, and a full
slate on Saturday too. On Sunday. It's it from you know,
from now every weekend through February, we're to have football.
That's the pointing. That's great. You mentioned that Brent was
in the booth. Can I tell you he's one of
my favorite all time UH broadcasters and people.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
He he's the greatest. UH. Maria Taylor, who I loved,
did a great job interview or whatever.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
And of course they worked together on the college ABC
College football and she said, you know, hey, take us
to break and like he starts riffing about.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
You know, you're looking live.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Like kids in the future, round it out the rosters
of the two terrific teams out of the Chargers and
lives like he just starts riffing.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
It's why he's the best.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
And like, I've always loved Brent because he unquestionably loves sports,
Like whenever event he was doing, it was the greatest,
Like it was big.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
It always felt big when he was doing a gain.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I love that about it because I like, I want
the broadcaster to love it as much as I do, right,
and so I want you to be excited to be there.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
He did that. I also think that his love for
gambling and wagering made it fun to listen to him
as well, because he would always hint about that type
of stuff and a lot of us were also in
on it because we were gambling at the time, it
wasn't technically legal yet to be doing it. So I
think he even made a joke about like the total
in this game, which was fun. The Chargers went over
(38:38):
by themselves. By the way, The total was like four
thirty three and a half by the time it closed,
and the Chargers went over quickly. So you know, I look,
it's game one. Trey Lance is not going to Hall
of Fame. It's like a deep breath everyone. I mean,
I did the amount of Trey Lance takes. We're like,
this is all you needed was Jim Harbaugh's confidence to
(38:59):
be good again. I'm like, guys, he's playing guys that
aren't making rosters.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Let's relax a little bit.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
There's so much takeaway from the preseason, but last night
or two nights ago, whenever that was, there's not much.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Take away from that first game.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
No, no, and look in today's league. I mean, you know,
truth be told, there's not a lot of to take
away in most of the games. I mean, the joint
practices is where teams are doing the lion's share of work.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
So we mean, at some point we will come back
from with my take on it. There is stuff I
think to actually take away from the preseason. It's not
what I think what you think it might be. But
I think there's certainly to me things I look for
when it comes to preseason performance, and a lot of
it revolves around expectations of teams and players and what
(39:55):
you get from them in the preseason. Now, it's hard
because starters don't play all the time. And I actually started, Yeah,
I think starters should play more. It's one of my
big things about preseason. And you look at like you
we thought about Andy read here. I mean, everybody still
plays the starters like like there's a value to that,
and I think that more teams should do that. Like
the Lions do not play a rookie offensive lineman who's
supposed to be their starting like left guard, which I
(40:16):
think is absolutely crazy to not do that in a
preseason game, like what the rookie needs as much as
he can get.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
You know, It's funny that I hear you on the rookie,
you know, But I'm on the fence with even playing
your starters.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I really am.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
And I was always in Andy because I think Andy
is the best coach in the league.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
But I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Let's discuss it because I'm talking about it's a good subject.
Fellas hanging out Fox Sports.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Radio, Fox Sports Radio Radio.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
All right, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
That's us our number two fellas, Fox Sports Saturday, and
before you know it, as we are in August, Fox
Sports Saturday. Well it'll be a college football Saturday.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Well baby, week zero just a few weeks away.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Will you watch week zero? We'll be honest, Week zero
is week one? Why are we doing this week zero thing?
Like it's just week there's like there's like fifteen games.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
I kind of like it, to be honest with you,
I why are we calling it week Why we call
it week zero? Just call it what it is? Yeah,
I hear you. I don't know. I just like.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
It's stupid, but I like it. It's like I can't
I can't explain it.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Like if I watch every stamp of the Hall of
Fame game, I'm surely gonna watch every stamp of week
one week zero college football when it actually matters.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
No, but I like calling it week zero? Oh you
like calling it week zero? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know why. I mean, your point's right,
but I don't know. It's got it's got like it's
like a thing, yes, a thing like week zero. I like,
we know it's week one, but week zero. I don't know,
it's stupid, but I like it.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
I was listening to the update in the in the
top of the hour, and I saw the Pirates score
nine runs in the top of the first thing against
the Rockies. I was I was kind of paying attention
to box course yesterday and they came back in one.
It sounds seventeen sixteen, is what it sounds like, which
is an incredible baseball. Yeah, what was the live number
(42:30):
for the Rockies in that game?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Could you imagine? I mean, they have to offer. I
still think you would offer because it's so early.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Some of those you would offer, it would be up.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
But the question is what would the number be. I
I could probably find I mean five thousand, Yeah, I
was gonna say thirty to one, Like it's got it's
somewhere in that in that range where it's it's like
you're just like, it's even too much for me, you know,
it's it's I can't believe that they won that game
and the Yankees lost and all that bullpen well we
(43:05):
traded for.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
You know what's nuts about it is like, yeah, nine
to nothing is one thing, but they were also down
sixteen to ten, and I love I was. I watched
box Scors too, so we were watching. We had a
family movie night last night, so we watched Happy Gilmore two, Me,
my wife, the two boys and saw I'm on my
(43:28):
phone like because now we I don't know, I'm terrible,
but you're on your phone looking at stuff sports and
we had to win to show tomorrow today.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
And excuse, I use, I got work. I got work, Dad,
you walk every day. Yeah, yeah, I have to watch right.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Right exactly, so you know, I'm keep an eye on
the Phillies. And I had to make sure at the
end of the game because I wanted to see the
entrance by Duran.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
It was making a lot of rounds on the social media.
I thought the entrance was fine, and people were making
out to be like the best entrance of all time.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
It was fine. I love you're a Phillies fan.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
I but listen, I can divorce myself from fandom and
and look at him a big picture like that's cool,
Like where else what other entrances are like that?
Speaker 3 (44:20):
No?
Speaker 4 (44:20):
I mean, I I think I think the Dias want
to stow like top tier for me, Like that's cool,
like like the the rivera one I know everyone loves
because it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Man, it's not a great entrance.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
He just kind of like lightly jogs out there, like
you know, Giant Stadium, like there's it's not like that
crazy like yeah, but lastly at the light show and
you had that right.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
It was a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Last night, dude, the fire, the Spider and no one
the game right because four jet so four pitches he had,
he had, he had, he got three outs and four pitches.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
That's fantas at the Yankees obviously last night lost. And
what's crazy? The Giants traded. I'm a Giants fan and
we just are just really really bad since the break.
We've won three games since the All Star Break and
one was actually last night. It's against the Mets. You
get Devers and what happened. I love the trail. I'm thinking, oh, man,
(45:24):
I think it's a great I still think it's a
great trade. The Giants have hit like one eighty five
with runs with goring positions since since the All Star Break.
It's not Devers prom it's a team problem. Plenty of
guys get on basis don't. They just don't knock him in.
But they traded their closer, Duvall, and he has been
very up and down. Last night you saw the down
(45:44):
for the Yankees like it's gonna be The Yankees fans
are not gonna enjoy this ride. I promise you it
is a tortuous ride. Where he's in the game, he
has all the stuff in the world, does never knows
where it's going. And that's one thing about baseball. Now
when you watch these relievers, they throw so hard, as
we know, they have no idea where the ball is going.
There's there's no The ball moves so much. I mean,
(46:06):
what used to be a four scene fastball is now
you know they call a sinker right, a two seam
fastball with sinc on it. The ball has no idea
where it's going. If you watch these catchers, it's very
fun to just pay attention. They they just put the
glove in the middle of home plate and they just
the ball. Who knows where it's gonna go, no idea.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
I tell you, I love the fact that on you
that you like baseball. I love baseball.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I know, you know because few people, yeah, you know,
a few people. I could talk to like I usually
steer away right because not a lot of people love it.
And the fact that you're a former professional football player
that loves baseball, I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
Well. So here, so here's why. So I I grew
up playing baseball. I always thought I'd played baseball in college,
and then I realized it wasn't good enough and football
became my thing. I pitched in college, I mean pitched
in a high school. I did no, I pisched a high school,
not college. Sorry, but I did play. You'll appreciate because
I think I told the story before. But I played
(47:10):
one inning. I pitched one inning of college summer baseball,
all right. Oregon didn't have a baseball program when I
went to school there. We got it back, I think,
and actually after Oregon State won two championships, they brought
our baseball program back. So we did baseball for like
forty years, and they brought it back on nine maybe
and I was gone by then. But the trade off
(47:31):
was I always wanted to play baseball. The trade off was, Hey,
you come to Oregon and the Knights Phill and Penny Night,
they own a college summer would bat team. Oh wow,
it's now in Corvallis. We're Oregon State is that it
was their facility, but it wasn't. It wasn't a Loha
which is outside of Portland. And they're like, you can
come up and play for us for a weekend and
(47:53):
before you go to college, before you show up to
for football. I was like, okay, fine, So I get there.
The first game I pitched, Okay, I come in. The
game is tied at not at six in the ninth inning?
All right, and uh again, I'm eighteen years old. These
are college baseball players. It's the you know, like the
Cape Codleague is considered like the number one summer baseball.
(48:15):
This is what this was like the second it's a
national league. This was like the second one, the second
best like summer. Like if you go look on their website,
there's a bunch of pros that played for this Corvallis
Night's team. So would bat everything. So I get up there, I'm,
you know, eighteen years old. Actually so I'm still seventeen.
So seventeen and I'm amped, bro, Like I I threw
like eighty eight eighty nine, like I wasn't didn't though
(48:36):
terribly hard for my size.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
But I'm in the I'm in like nineties, like I'm
I'm amped in this.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
Yeah, first guy grounds out, second guy. I remember vividly.
It was a lefty. I'm alrighty three to two. I
hit him with a backdoor curveball strike three, looking like.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Nice, let's go.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
And then I ended up walking to giving up a double,
walking two more guys, giving up a single. I ended
up allowing three runs. Okay, ah, so I leave the
game nine to six. All right, we score four in
the bottom of ninth inning, so we win. So my
official stat line it's on the internet. I can send
you a picture. I took a picture of the box
score from the season stats seas that's and this whole
(49:17):
entire team one to know with a twenty seven era.
And we ended up winning the championship that year, like
the National Championship for like for that, like Division A
base Oh I got a championship? Bring they gave me one? No, yeah,
I gotta you know. It's a Joustin's like diamonds or nothing.
(49:37):
This championship rings. So and then when I when I
was when I was in the NFL off seasons here
in Charlotte, I was bored. My first officers because look
the way the NFL works obviously, like you're you know,
you're in it, like you're in it, right, you're just
and then just over, like the seasons ends, like that's it,
like you're just done. I was bored to tears, buddy,
and I was so bored. And my dad was like,
(49:58):
why did you go coach high school baseball? Like called
the local high school? So I called up the local
high school formula high school. I was living near South
Carolina at the time, and I called high school baseball. Hey, man, like,
I'll you need any help, I'll volunteer. So I volunteered
for five years. I was a varsity pitching coach.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:17):
Yeah, we won, and we won Upper State one year.
We sent three that year, we sent three pitchers to
college and we had one kid draft in the third
round as a hitter.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Like we were. We were pretty good. So I was Silveh,
that's great game. He taught it. That's great. Yeah, that's good.
I love it.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
So I now you know, it's a national topic. It's
not like the best because you weekly, but like trade
deadline stuff is interesting because you know, you really see
who's in, like who's in, who's out, and the desperation
were for some teams. I just don't know if it's
going to pay off in the end. We'll obviously find
out the weeks go forward, but clearly, I mean worked.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
The Padres day with the Pod Wild Wild They're.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
The one team I look at I think like it
hope it pays off because they trade away people are
not happy about what they did for Padres. They trade
away their best prospect for a reliever, which on a
like a rental reliever. It's just like like they don't
only they don't. They didn't need Mason Miller. I mean
he's great to have obviously the as, but he's under control.
(51:27):
I think maybe with someone else. Uh, they trade Mashon.
Miller is on the control. Who's they trade? They trade
away one of them for for for something for their
like best shortstop prospect who was.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
Supposed to be incredible. He was part of it, Yeah,
he was. He was in that.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
They did get a couple of Reynolds from Baltimore. But
the short the kid that you're talking about, was it
the Miller deal. Now Miller pitched last night. He uh,
he's set up Suarez, so.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
He's not even gonna be the closers and we set
up Cary or just can gain one.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
He was set up.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Now they on four to one. It was an easy
win for the pore right, he gave up to it.
Pitched one and he gave up to it, struck out one.
Uh Suarez came and closed it. What I think they're
actually going to do is because they have under control,
is make him a starter again.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
Really for the point for this postson.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
No no, no, no, next year, you can't stretch him
out that far.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
No interesting, really interesting? Yeah, yeah, I heard some talking
about that. Yeah, they the Padres went like all they
gave up.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
They gave up whatever it was, three, five, six, eight,
nine eleven, like crazy number of prospects of all their
top prospects except for a handful.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
But they do it every years. It's wild. Now. I
liked listen.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
I mean they fortified their lineup right because you got Larrano,
Loriano and j T. Hearn O'Hearn from UH ball the
more right, take a couple of bats to go. Their
lineup is their lineup is pretty lengthy. They really are
nine deep with ds behind a plate and their sick Yeah,
(53:14):
like it was great before Miller and Miller is great
like Miller's great art.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
Yeah, it's really good to me.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
The interesting team out of all of this is the
Mariners because they have the pitching. So, you know, to
win the postseason, I think you need sort of two
ingredients that are maybe three we can go. You know,
you need like three you need three starters, right ideally right,
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and you need a bullpen, uh, and you need guys
that can have they can have biggot bats, like you
can string together hits, of course, but you need guys
that can just like and the Mariners have now a
lot of guys that got biggot bats, like a lot
of dudes that can give you a one swing of
the bats and and and put you ahead. And I
think that you need those ingredients to have and they
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have those.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
Now I agree. I look, you got in the middle
of the order you wind.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Up getting You brought Suarez back Naylor right, and then
you got Naylor, who is a lefty who's got you know,
who's who's that kind of guy?
Speaker 3 (54:22):
I mean, like, I like what they did with their lineup.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
They had a Rozaraina leading off last night and then
cal Rally and then they.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
Right then you had Julio Naylor.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Crawford hit the game winning home runs right, Polanco can
zone and then Crawford.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
I mean that's ninety. It's a it's a very good lineup.
Speaker 4 (54:45):
Yeah, and they're interesting that, you know, I don't know
how much I think you you wage a little bit
like I do.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
It's funny.
Speaker 4 (54:52):
I was with someone, a very sharp guy that I
I know in Vegas a couple of weeks ago, and
we were at dinner when I was in Vegas and
he's like, hey, I just got a text from someone
to bet the Mariners to win the World Series was
thirty to one. Okay, so uh, we know three thousand
plus three thousand if you look at your sports book
and you know, I get information, and sometimes I'm like, ah,
(55:13):
I'm gonna be there are times a lot of times
I follow the sharps like blindly, like if you.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
Eat like whatever. I was like a like, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
The Mariners are like I don't know, and they're like
twelve to one today because.
Speaker 3 (55:25):
Oh wow, really they made.
Speaker 4 (55:28):
All the moves like they Yeah, like one of those
teams were like they went all in. I think it
makes sense for them to go all in because this
feels like a year that's very wide open right now. Yeah,
you know, the Dodgers obviously were the favorite, but they've
had some injuries, just haven't played as well. Then there
could be a little bit of sandbager from them as well,
because they know that they're just trying to get to
the postseason.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
At well, well, it really is about the American League,
right So let's look at the American League for a second.
So in that division, it's them in Houston. He used
to gets Korea back, which I like, but I'm with you.
I think Seattle is the better team right now, are
three and a half games behind the Astros. Then you
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got Detroit in Central and you're not like, you know,
like Detroit, Well, Detroit.
Speaker 3 (56:12):
I think it's just they haven't been.
Speaker 4 (56:16):
They haven't, they haven't don't think they've been challenged, right
and they I just don't know. So Detroit, they've had
a lot of hitters this year overperform expectations and that
words become the postseason. Like the other teams were talking about,
They're like the Mariners right there. They're guys that played
two expectations. And you could argue cal Rawly has a
(56:38):
little more home runs, but that to me that's immaterial
to this discussion, Like, yeah, he has five more home
runs than he should have, like whatever, you know, like
he's he can mash. We know that the Tigers have
had guys like three guys having the best career, the
best year of their career. That to me is a
concern come the postseason. I think you need guys that
are just playing expectations. The guys that overperform come postseason
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tend to underperform because it's just it's a postseason. Man,
Like every pitch and every swing is the intensity of
all those rams up a little bit. That's what concerns
me about the Tigers.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Yeah, so here's a thing, like I don't disagree. I mean,
there's a couple of guys I love, like Torres is legit,
Green is legit. Like those are two legit players. Now
the rest of that lineup, I'm with you, like's got
some decent power from the right side.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
But I'm not in love with a lot of a
lot of that lineup.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
What I love about Detroit is flaherty and schoolable, right
like you got like you got like and they gotta
yeah yeah, and they're gonna they have they have really
good pitching, But I'm with you. I think the I
like the Matriners line up better. I like Toronto's line
up better, probably Detroit. Wait, I mean, Houston is interesting,
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and I don't like the Yankees. I don't like where
they're at now. We'll see once Judge comes back. I
still don't think they have enough.
Speaker 4 (58:13):
Pitching probably probably not, probably not, Like I don't, I
don't think they they the Yankees and who I mean,
who are they going the postseason? And like I feel
great about this starting pitching, right A rookie, that's what
and a rookie like I know, I don't, and you know,
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I just I'm with you. I don't think that they're
at that point where you feel great about their situation.
The Astros are interesting to mean to astroally, I think
have the pieces to get it done. Just to have
enough pitching is a question for me with Houston. But
that's why that's why I like the Mariners going in. Man,
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like this is a year in the al.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Well, dude, you're right on I I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
I think the marin I like them the best out
of every all the contenders.
Speaker 3 (59:04):
Yeah, the other.
Speaker 4 (59:04):
Team is is is the Rangers they got healthy, got
the pitching. They've been there before, right a couple of
years ago. I I am, and I'm a Giants fan,
so I'm a little bias here. I love Bruce Bochie.
I think bo g I think is such a good
postseason manager. It's a different type of managing with rosters
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and rotations and and you know, putting in certain guys
like with the Giants. I mean, he was so good,
like here's the defensive substitution instead of the thing, and
immediately that guy makes a great play like he just
had this. He knows when to pull pitchers when like
he's been so good at that over his career. So
that that to me gives me a bonus for the Rangers.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
Agreed a little bit as well. National League. Let's take
a looking, you know what, we have to take quick
t o we'll come back. We'll let's look thinking to
nationally because I think there's six really good even only
match teams, playoff teams, like six of them. I think
they're all good. I think all of them are better
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than the American League. I love it, and the NL
is stacked. We'll talk about it and we'll get back
to football. Lots to do fellas as we're hanging out
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Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
The Rockies come all the way back.
Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
I mean they were down nine to nothing, they were
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Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Here it is oh one pitch and hit.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Deep the left.
Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Is it enough?
Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Going back?
Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Sam On Gone?
Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
It's gone. You gotta be kidding me. Brendon Doyle with
a two run home run.
Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
The Rockies have come all the way back to win
it seventeen to sixteen. That's incredible, absolutely incredible, Jeff. So
before we get to the NL, we have a great
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All right, she's she's gonna be. She's working toward doing
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a shot to do some treadings.
Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Here's bri with the update.
Speaker 8 (01:02:24):
Okay, so we just talked. We just played that Rocky highlight.
The live line was plus twenty five hundred.
Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Okay, I thought, crazy your rock I.
Speaker 8 (01:02:36):
Just saw that on a good old Twitter.
Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
So that was awesod work by you.
Speaker 8 (01:02:41):
Yes, and so then I know you don't like the
Yankees aunt.
Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
So yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:02:46):
The Marlins beat them thirteen to twelve, and it was
a shaky debut for their newest relievers. All three combined
to give up nine runs and two point one innings pitched,
So all three of them. That was really really rough.
The Phillies edge the Tigers five to four. Bryce Harper
was ejected in the seventh inning for arguing a call
on the third strike after a check swing. Philadelphia is
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now in the lead in the NL East after the
Mets fell to the Giants four to three, the Brewers
defeated the Nationals sixteen to nine. The Cubs shout out
the Orioles one to zero, the Dodgers beat the Rays
five to zero. Blake Snell, who's been sidelined since April,
He's set to start later today, and the Padres won
their sixth straight after downing the Cardinals four to one.
Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
And in the.
Speaker 8 (01:03:29):
NFL, you guys were talking about it a little bit earlier,
Michael Parsons officially announced that he has requested a trade,
and specifically to Stephen Jones, not Jerry Jones, very specific
in that response. And the Bengals finalized a new stadium
leased through twenty thirty six. And Buccaneers quarterback Baker Mayfield
is day to day with the contusion in his throwing hand.
Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
So back to you guys, Ah, I gotta tell you
did a great.
Speaker 8 (01:03:56):
Job, nice and quick and nice.
Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
That was awesome. You know you did. You got a
lot of information.
Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
You didn't go long, no, you get you got in
a lot of and you were your Newsy like your
news was right now. Remember I'm a former journalist, right,
so I'm thinking about what's your news judgment?
Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
And your news judgment was a plus? Thank you, great job, fantastic.
I don't have a journalism background. I can't.
Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
I can't tell you, like you know, you know, what
do you say, your producer, like, what do you do in.
Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
The past that you can I was a sports writer.
I worked, okay in Chicago, New York and Philly.
Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
What if I write about sports of my sportswriter? Yeah,
I mean now, yeah, I mean I worked for newspapers
back in the day.
Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
It was a journalist like I and then whatever, yeah, yes,
if you write about sports or sports writer, I did
it as a beat, right, So I covered baseball, football, basketball,
you know, I loved it. I love to be on
the road and be of events and sit down. So
I used to do these long, five thousand word pieces.
(01:05:10):
So I'd spend like I went to Tennessee and when
Peyton was a senior. One of my favorite stories was
I went to Tennessee and did I went to class
with him?
Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
I shadowed it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
I shadowed him for about ten days and then it
was leading up to the Florida game, and it was.
Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
I mean, I loved it. I slept out.
Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Remember when Duke before Duke North Carolina, they would sleep
out for a week. It's chefskyvill the tents. I did that, right,
Like I used to do stuff like that. I would
go and you know, do stuff like these long pieces,
and it was.
Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
I loved it. It was.
Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
It was great stuff fun. We had budget, like I could.
I spent three hundred nights of the year on the road.
I went to every event. Yeah, it was great. I
probably spent I mean it was. It was when I
was in New York and the post we had. Our
travel budget was huge, so like I would be heard
about this guy. It was Dante Colpepper was at Central Florida.
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He's like, we're at I'm like, I'm in Texas. He's like,
go to my sports center, go to Florida, go go
shit with let's go do that story.
Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
I'm like all right, And then like.
Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
I called down there and you know, watch film with
the coaches and then meet Dante, you know, like and
then write about it like we do all stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
It was fun. It was a good, good gig.
Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Clearly, I never I don't know I ever did anyone
talk about like traveling for work like that, that's such excitement.
Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Yeah, it was. It was a play like I did
every I was very lucky.
Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
I did every big event like World Series, Aga, Torment,
NBA Finals, you know, you name it, obviously, all the
NFL college football, and it was it was fun, like.
Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
You go to I do a big game.
Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Back then, the Monday night game was bigger than Sunday
night r and so I would do a Saturday college game,
a big one. I would do a Sunday NFL and
do it so I could travel and get to the
Monday night game on and it was fun.
Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
I believe. I believe you. It feels like a lot
of travel. Though I could, I don't think I could
do that anymore. Yeah, I mean this was pre nine
to eleven, like I did it in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Oh so yeah, there was no security airporade. I mean
a lot of eas I get there in twenty you know.
I would get to the airport twenty minutes before a flight,
like it was. It was crazy before before takeoff, before takeoff,
I mean, like I.
Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
So we so weird ease.
Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
My family is very much show up ten minutes before boarding,
like we we pushed a little. We don't check bags
or team, we don't check back. For example, my family's
flying in Baltimore right now. They bored I think at
six fifteen. My wife got there five minutes ago.
Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Wow, you guys are still like that that said something man.
Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
Well okay, tsa pre check, no check bags and and
like it's an hour flights like no, Like the kids,
we made food at the house to take on the plane.
So they're going today go see the Savannah bananas for
like the hundredth time this year.
Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
The Savannah bananas.
Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Yeah, my kids cannot get enough of them. It is crazy. Hey, son,
do you want to watch a baseball game?
Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Do you want to watch Van Banaz Yes? Like they do.
Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
They are so in on the bananas. They make it
so so much fun for these kids. They have the
best time watching them play baseball. It's real baseball. It's
not like the Palm Globetrotters, right, like they're playing the
Generals Like it's like, dude.
Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
They are so they love it. They are so in
on it. What a great idea. Oh, it's it's a blast, man,
it really is. It's great stuff. How old are your boys?
Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
So my son just turn eleven, my daughter just turned nine.
Oh yeah, and they're going and then they go with
their cousin who is who's ten, So they like they
all they all go together. They go to this is
like their fourth game. Is we got lucky. I don't
know how they got like all the tickets this year,
but they got a bunch this year. We've been in
like the lottery for years and somehow they end up
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getting a lot of them this year.
Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
So like they like, they're they're all in.
Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
They love it, love it kids, kids love it and
it's great.
Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
It's fun. Man, it's good. It's good stuff. Does does
your boy play baseball? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Yeah, he plays baseball and my daughter plays softball. I'll
tell you. So this is this is interesting because I
know your kids play sports as well he is, so
I have the I have the benefit of like having
played professional sports, right sort of understand this thing. But
like it switching your kids are just like my son,
(01:09:56):
he's like the best, he's like the coach's favorite, like.
Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
He he is plays hard, but he's he's he's working
on his skills. Let's put it like that. Like he's
he's just and my daughter.
Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
Is a butt kicker, like she like like she got Okay.
Yesterday my kids got home from camp. They were gone
for a month essentially July July seventh, August. First we
were an hour at home and my daughter goes, all right,
let's go play catch, like like back into softball, like immediately,
(01:10:31):
like that's just like what she is. She like she
played all Star games. They just played one all Star game.
She got home in the car full full tiers, was
like they lost and was like, Dad, I have to
I have to be better next season.
Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
I was like, oh my god, like music.
Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
I was like, okay, I mean, sure, what do you
what do you want to like, what what do you
want to do? Like cause you moving up in age
and she's like I need to be better. I was like, okay,
but what do you sign me up?
Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Let's go? You want to prow practice any day you want?
Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
Like you can just sort of tell, like, you know,
the difference in personalities in the way again, like the
way they prepare and do things. It's kind of interesting
to see that from a perspective. And when I see like,
and I'm not knocking other parents, but you see these
parents are so intense with their kids training and whatnot.
It's like but they're not really gonna go like to
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They're not gonna be drafted. They're not like gonna get
a college scholarship. Like what, we're this hard and it's interesting,
dynamic to see sort of baseball is intense, buddy, Like,
especially in the South, Man, it is like there's intensity
to the parents here when it comes to baseball.
Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Dude, it's all over man, it's crazy. I told you,
I mean that little league story happened. My son was
in the game. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean
it's intense. It's crazy. It's crazy, it really is. And
baseball it's tough because it's a game of failure. Right
oh yeah, So like how many tiers between you know,
(01:12:10):
not just my kid, but all of them? Right, like, god,
they reading up. You got the tears finally stopped. I
think this year was no tears. The first time nobody
cried on the team. And he's playing twelve you right,
like at some point somebody's gonna strike out, make an error,
(01:12:31):
whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
I think getting lit up.
Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
I think my son only cried once this year, and
I was like, as the umpire, just to bring them up.
I tell us all the time, this is a strong
I tell us all the time, my buddy, if you
let an umpire get the two strikes, they're going to
strike you out on strike three, right, you gotta protect
you got it. But they're just it's just it's there.
They're little gumpires. Buddy, you're good, right, you're gonna be out.
Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
And so I kind of clicked with him, and he
finally sort of started swinging the bat a little earlier
in the account. But there was one at bat where
like the umpire just didn'tive him a chance, you know,
one of those, and he was so upset. So I
think we only had one one time this year, which
is pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
No, that's great, are you kidding? So you're about he's
playing eleven U.
Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
Well, so the way a little league works, it's up
essentially ends up being like playing miners. This year, we
have like a weird way that we like do our
our little league. In my mind, so we have like
the majors, you know, the majors and the miners. And essentially,
like the majors, you can start playing at ten, you
get drafted, you stay the same team, which is not
(01:13:38):
how I play the little league. I'm not saying it's
a right way or wrong way to do it, so
you can play majors at ten, you get essentially what
happens is, if you are any good, you get drafted
at ten, like for example, I think they had they
had twenty four ten.
Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Year olds get drafted this year. Okay, and because you're
staying in.
Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
A team for three years ten, eleven, twelve, sure, and
so everyone else basically then plays like what is considered
the miners. But then Alex will play in the majors.
Next year is a league twelve, so he'll get to
move up to the majors. It's very, very competitive, Like
it is shockingly competitive here in this little league.
Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Do you guys play the travel ball too?
Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
No, we don't do travel ball. I've resisted that for years.
Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Good for you, Alex.
Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
You know, like he could probably he could probably do
it this year, but my daughter could do it, but
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
We're not doing that. Yeah, it's smart, it's smart. I mean,
you know, we were at South Carolina for a tournament.
We got him other tournament, which is crazy because he's
gonna miss football practice. We have a tournament in Cooperstown.
It's a pretty cool thing. You should think about this.
(01:14:52):
They do a twelve it's a twelve you tournament.
Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
I know, I know some people from Charlotte that are
going to Cooperstown.
Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Yeah, and it's just twelve year olds. That's the only
thing they do. And they all stay together in the barracks, right,
And it's really a cool thing. So we're going it's
like the second week of August. Parents are staying out,
like they're only a couple. Two of the coaches stay
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with the kids. It's a cool it's a really cool thing.
And it's just twelve, just twelve you great experience.
Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
Yeah, he would do he would do it next year
because he's a right, and I this whole gripe about
the age thing, like he's a very young he's at
July birthdays is always the youngest. He'll yeah, he'll be
eleven and he'll be a twelve.
Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
Uh yeah, where.
Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
Softball is his calendar year. So my daughter gets to
be the old one in a given year, which is
super like last year she did eight.
Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Well, the travel it's tough that way.
Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
I mean, even my son is March, right, and and
that's not July, right, that's still when you're talking when
you're talking months like these kids that are born in
August September have such a leg up and travel ball
because they're going through puberty earlier.
Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Right, Like they're they're all like that.
Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Six months to nine months is a big deal in
development and growth with children, you know, I mean.
Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
Softball, but softball is not that way.
Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
Softball is calendar year.
Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
So it's a huge difference, like you can see it,
and like it's it's not even just compet like confidence wise,
right when you're like one of the better players, you
are more confident as a player.
Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Yes, yeah, hey, let's say quick t o. We'll come
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we'll make this the baseball hour. We'll get back to
(01:17:18):
the NFL and some college next hour. But let's look
at the National League. We looked at the American League.
I love what the I love the Nationally. I think
the National League is stacked in the East Phillies, Mets, Milwaukee, Cubs,
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in the Central, Dodgers, Padres. I think those six teams
are really evenly matched and really good. I mean, you
can go through it the Padres after the deadline. Their
bullpen is nasty. They lengthened their lineup. Michael King's gonna
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come back for them to start, so the rotation is good.
The Dodgers are the Dodgers. The Cubs, I'll tell you, brother,
I love their lineup. They mash, but I just don't
think they have enough pitching to get by. Milwaukee's dangerous.
They got great starting pitching, especially with the way Wood
you have his pitching. They go three deep. Miserawski has
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nasty stuff. You got Peralta their lineup and sneaky. Not
love with their bullpen. Mets have I think a really
good lineup, a lengthy lineup.
Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
I like their pen a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
They got Hellsley from the Cardinals to go with Diaz
and the met Pen's nasty, not love with their starters.
Phillies have great pitching, They have great starters. They go
three deep with Wheelers, Sanchez, Lizardo. They're gonna have noa
they'll have. They got Duran for their back end. Bullpen
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lineup is not as lengthy, a little streaky. It's what
killed them the last two postseasons. So I mean that's
kind of what the l looks like in my eyes.
Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
Jeff, Yeah, you know, I think to me, like if
the Dodgers are healthy, they probably feel like it's still
the favorite. They just have so many outs. Like I
think when you look when you when you want to
look at a championship level roster, obviously that they're there.
They it can be that. But the Phillies to me
are really interesting because they have they have the two starters, right,
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they have the reliever.
Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Now they've got.
Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
Dudes that can they can get big hits, which is
I think again I talked about earlier. I think that's
hugely important for me. As long as long as Harper
does get tossed. Has there been a player that's been
tossed more often arguing a third strike swing like there's
a famous one of him and Angel Hernandez right.
Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Going at it.
Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
Yes, yeah, I think he. I think he very clearly
swung yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
He does not like them fires out from third base.
So I mean again, when you have when you have
him and Schwarbur that can just at any point send
you know, hit the ball a thousand miles that that
to me is valuable in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Yeah, and Bryce has gotten big.
Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
It's like against the Padres uh in twenty two through
the rain drops, big clutch home run.
Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
Joe Davis had the call right the thing of the
swing of his life, right, Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah,
swing of his life. Actually great memory. It was a
great call too.
Speaker 6 (01:20:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Where the Fellas right here? Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
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Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, seven am in
the east.
Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Uh, Sun's up August the second.
Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
You know, that means we got football coming up this
weekend and every weekend from now through February. Jeff Schwartz,
Anthony Gregan fellas. So one of the things, Jeff, I
got to point this out, and I don't want to
forget it because I sent it to my kids. In fact, yesterday,
(01:21:13):
did you see cam Ward talking about putting in work?
Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Yes, I saw a part of it. Yeah, so I
know about his parents, correct.
Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Yes, Yes, I love this messaging. It's some of the
greatest messaging you're going to hear. Cam Ward. I will
root for it until the day hangs him up. I
hope the kid has a great success. He talked about
getting up at four thirty to get his work in
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and he said, I saw my father wake up at
four pot thirty to go to work, to go to
his job every day. If he can go to work
at four point thirty in the morning, I could go
work out at four point thirty in the morning. And
I was like, you want to talk about perspective, How
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freaking awesome is that.
Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
It's a great perspective to have. Cam Ward's journey is interesting.
I think people may might not sort of have paid
attention to it. He was an Incarnate Word right after
playing quarterback in high school in a basically wing tea.
He didn't throw the ball in high school. He went
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to Incarnate Word because of COVID they had a spring
and fall season back to back, so he basically played
like two seasons worth of games in a year, goes
to Washington State. Now, I covered the PAC twelve full
time at the time. That was my main job PACK
twelve Radio Rip PAC twelve. And I remember watching him
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play early on and thinking to myself and I said
out a loud, I mean, there's tweets that someone found
a tweet of mind when he was drafted first overalls
like this, this kid's going high in the draft. Guys,
just watch out. He was that type of player immediately,
and he had to refine some footwork issues because he
wasn't really much of a passer and sort of you know,
some aggressive tendencies which he still sort of had at
Miami a little bit, and just got better and better
(01:23:14):
and worked his butt off from Incarnate Word to Washington
State to Miami. And I'm not surprised. That's his personality
and that's the way he thinks, because of the way
I watched him play and the way I watched him
work to get to where he is from from Incarnate Word.
So none that surprises me. And obviously you have to
back it up with, you know, play on the field.
But I appreciate that that from him, the way he
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talks about work ethic. Five o'clock is a little fourth
or it's a little early for workouts. But I mean,
that's my personal thing about working on that early. But
I love the thought process of like, hey, I watched
my parents do this, I watched my dad do this.
I'm gonna I'm gonna work that hard to.
Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
I mean, you know, some of these kids I marvel at,
right because I think, you know, we have a tendency
sometimes to you know, always not look at always think
back in the day or whatever. These kids now have
a much there. I think their focus is better. They're
(01:24:16):
they're they're all about craft. Like there's so much out there,
and I see a lot of kids. Man, I was
with a kid the other day, Alex Haskell. He's going
to Penn State. He's one of the top defensive ends
of the country. And I'm listening to this kid talk
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about his day like you know, they're got their heads
like his father's like he's gonna make three million dollars
next year Penn State, and it'll be like more.
Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
Than I'll ever make in my life.
Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
And the kid his groundings could be all about work,
all about his speed and quickness, and yeah, he's a
big boy. Like you know, I just like I just
I love the mentality of putting the work, you know, I.
Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
I love hearing that story because you know, Organ obviously
is one of the schools that is having nil. And
one thing you hear from haters of Oregon is like,
we don't pay well, our school doesn't pay high school
kids like Organ does. And I'm like, yeah, you're doing
one of the one recently a Penn State person was
(01:25:25):
in my mentionis like Penn State doesn't pay guys until
they've earned it. I'm like, no, you pay high school
players to confirms it again, like everyone else does. Like
everyone plays the same game. Fans don't want to admit it.
Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Why but why? Why is it a big deal? I'm sorry,
I okay, I don't think it's a big deal. I
think I think these kids deserve to get paid, and
so why of course.
Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
They deserve to get paid. So here's here's my here's
my take for this. On years, it has been like,
is it Anthony's is it your money that you're isn't
my money?
Speaker 9 (01:25:55):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
No, you can donate if you want to, and you
know what you're donating for. If if the owner of
X company wants to use his billions of dollars to
fund a college program.
Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
So be it. It's not my money.
Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
Do I think it's crazy for an eighteen year old
to get three million dollars without having proven obviously that
they're good enough. Yeah, I think it's nuts. It's not
my money, though, who cares? It's not it's not our money.
Why do we care?
Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
The idea that, like, somehow this is against us, that three.
Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Million is over a period of time and it's not
guaranteed for.
Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
Of course, yeah, these are like real contracts. Of course
it is. And like and the thing is, if you
were this is always this is always an argument when
I'm When I was in school at Organ, it was
under scholarship, and the scholarship, by the way, is worth something.
I think people it's not worth nothing. I think that's
one argument I don't like. Either it's worth something. Okay,
(01:26:50):
it's not worth everything, but it's worth something. You leave
college without debt, it's a big it's a big step
up from your you know, from other people that leave
college with a ton of debt. Like it's it's obviously
it's obviously very good.
Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
Like if you're a.
Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
Musician in college under a musician like a music scholarship. Right,
you can have gigs on the weekend, you can do
sociality sponsor, you can make money off the side. And
yet somehow football players are or athletes weren't allowed to
do the same, which never made sense to me, Like
why it just never made sense. It never made sense
to me. So I'm glad we're making this right again.
(01:27:26):
Is it a ton of money, Yeah, it's a lot
of money. Is it my money? No, I don't care.
You're not not when when pro athletes make money, But
that's not an issue.
Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
For you as well.
Speaker 4 (01:27:37):
And I think it just it bothers people sometimes to
see people they feel haven't earned it make the money.
And the other thing that I think people are getting
wrong about this is that it's going to change the
way players care about the sport. Not true, And it's
going to actually think that the players are getting money,
(01:27:58):
they actually care more. They don't want disappoint the people
that are paying them, and like it. There's some like
real like there's there's money behind their play now, right,
like they have to play well or they're going to
lose their contract rctually. Right, They're right they're gonna get
processed out and have to go transfer. Is that people
(01:28:19):
thought this was only gonna benefit the top schools in
the country, and it's not.
Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
It's not. Look at what Texas Tech is doing right now.
Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
What I mean, Duke ended up getting a quarterback transfer
that they would never have gone ever without nil like
all these all these programs are now either keeping players,
even on the smaller scale. Memphis s gott donation from
the now he just passed. But you know the the
FedEx CEO right, owner and CEO, who obviously Memphis is
(01:28:49):
their hub.
Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
It's all these it's a lot different now. Man.
Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
These schools can afford to pay to pay the players
to keep the players.
Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
And Penn State, Michigan State, like they're getting the top
draft picks in the NHL instead of going to juniors
in the minor leagues. They're playing it. They're playing at college. Yeah, unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (01:29:14):
And I think that we're not We're not giving enough
credit to these schools for figuring it out. And it
is think about cultural all this season. Yeah, it's it's
still the same top heavy teams. But you know what
I mean, it's a little bit more. Right if Texas
Tech continues to build the roster this way, like they're
certainly in discussion moving forward about you look a real contender.
Now it's gonna take a couple of years, not just
(01:29:34):
one year. But think about Boise State being able to
keep aston genty, which would have never happened in previous years.
Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
Right, they kept they were going to give them something again.
Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
And one thing I want to reiterate, I'm not gonna
talk about this for days, is that this is really
frustrates me too. Is that and Gents is a good example.
Players are not going are not going somewhere for the
most money. Okay, money is part of it, but they're
still choosing coaching staff, atmosphere, environment, facilities, academics, location over
(01:30:14):
the most money. Of course, there are some players to
the five stars. They might go just for the most
money somewhere. Now, in a lot of cases, the most
money is from schools where all those things.
Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
Are checked off. Right.
Speaker 4 (01:30:25):
But as to Jennie's example, he could have gone somewhere
to make more money, but he chose to stay at
Boys State for some money, right, and stay with the
coaching staff, the players, the program that he wanted to
be wanted to be at nil is not about paying
everyone the most money. It's about players being able to
earn money while they play while still at being and
(01:30:48):
enjoying where they're going to school. And it really frustrates
me because I think everyone's like, well, they went for
the most money. No, no, it's not the way it works.
Not everyone goes they were for the most money. Again,
are there players, I'm sure you know some that go
just for the money. Absolutely, But those guys, man, they
end up transferring. You have to enjoy where you're You
(01:31:09):
have to enjoy the coaching staff, you have to enjoy
the process. You have to enjoy the people around you, you
have to enjoy the city you're in. The players that
go just for the money, you know that they're gone fast.
They don't enjoy the process. They don't enjoy their teammates,
they enjoy the city, join the coach after they're not
going to be happy. So it's a really misconception about
about the process. A lot of a lot of players
(01:31:31):
are not going somewhere just for the money.
Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
The money is important everything else.
Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
I just got done tell you about this kid, one
of the top d ends in the country, Alex askell
uh plays. There will be a senior at Saint Joe's
Prep outside Philadelphia, which is a really good program, and
Alex I was talking about it. We had the same
discussion and he said, listen, he goes. His father said,
in fact, he likes Syracuse a lot. Syracuse offered him
(01:31:59):
more money to State. He said, like Syracuse a lot.
He liked Michigan. Michigan had offered him. Uh probably, yeah,
ped State was like third and what they offered. But
he really connected with the with the d line coach,
like he really connected. And he said that they were
(01:32:21):
at every game last year. They were they just felt
loved and if the kid feels loved, like that's great,
like you know, like that's where he needs to be,
Like it shows him correct.
Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
I was at Big Tim Media Day for covering Big
Tim Media. I was talking. We were talking to PJ. Fleck,
was Minnesota's head coach and the Minnesota, by the way,
has a player, uh Coy Perch, who I don't think
people know. And I certainly learned more about All American
Safety crew freshman All American Safety and he'll play He'll
(01:32:57):
be Travis Hunter. He'll play both sides this year. An
incredible player from the state of Minnesota. Like legitimately, I
think we're not. People don't know about him, they will
after this year again. To be a true freshman, to
be All American and a true freshman, it's hard to do.
Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
And uh.
Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
He said that like every high school football game he
was on the sideline, they flew they flew up and
they had an airplane like flying like a banner, like
around the stadium like during his games, like he the
presence that was felt and the love.
Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
That matter to him committing. Yes, it all matters. It's
not just the money.
Speaker 4 (01:33:37):
I think that's what people If they understood that a
little bit more, I think they wouldn't be so upset
when they hear a player gets paid.
Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
I dude, I think you're spot on. Man.
Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
I think you know, I'm passionate about it as you are,
and you know, all the money is I.
Speaker 4 (01:33:55):
Unfortunately I'm too old to get any money. I I
there was like a settlement, you know that how settlement
and yeah, like are you And I'm like, I'm too
old tool for that. It does, it does, I'll tell
you what blows my mind.
Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
About this though.
Speaker 4 (01:34:07):
It was like, you know, I was a three star kid,
out California. I think now with the ways I was
in that I got, you know, was recruited into two
o three, Right, I'm older, and that's started when the
recruiting services started.
Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:34:20):
Back then it was still like Tom Lemmings magazine, like
that was like the huge thing. Like if you ran
the magazine, that was That's what it was. And yeah,
probably would have been a four star. Now like if
we wave recruiting rankings work now, you know I was
a three star California. I played a little bit of
true freshman, which back then, you know we got call
heard from a freshman year a little bit. That was
(01:34:42):
only the third true freshman to off. It's a linement
ever played organ. The list is pretty cool. It's Gary
Zimmerman Hall of Famer, Adam Steiner played like twelve years
of the NFL, and wow, there's only three.
Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
Was a true freshman, I would have made a lot
of money.
Speaker 4 (01:34:59):
I was like after my first year, we'd been like,
yeah I'm starting now, like give me all the money.
Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
Is right right right right.
Speaker 4 (01:35:05):
The base now, I mean, you know you're a starting
lineman in the portal.
Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
Is getting seven to fifty?
Speaker 4 (01:35:13):
Yeah, not just like a base like not even a
good like just like a starter, a like a not
even NFL type guy seven fifty.
Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's real, it's real. It's real money,
all right. I just saw this piece and I want
to run this by because you mentioned Texas Tech. So
ESPN did a story their analytics said that thirty two
(01:35:42):
college teams have a chance to make the playoffs. That's correct, right,
So now obviously the chances are very remote once you
get passed.
Speaker 4 (01:35:58):
You said to make the playoff or win the champions.
Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
No, make the playoff. Oh yeah, that's that's it.
Speaker 4 (01:36:04):
Okay, right, that's like the entire Big play It's like
the entire Big twelve.
Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
That's like right, right, right, exactly exactly. But I want
to I want.
Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
To throw the teams at you, okay, right, and we'll
play a little game.
Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
We'll throw the teams at you and we'll look at,
you know, kind of the odds, like would you take
a flyer on them? Okay, And I'll give it you
the analytics piece of it. So Texas Tech is thirty two.
They have a ten chance to make the playoffs, a
zero point one chance to win it all.
Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
I their schedule is pretty easy, which matters a lot
in this discussion. Yeah, I think they have a chance
with their schedule. The big part about this, I got
to pull up everyone's schedule to talk about this problem,
right right, schedule matters a lot here, guys like you
a voice.
Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
At Arizona State. Yeah, in October.
Speaker 4 (01:37:04):
But pretty much it's pretty decent schedules, I would say.
And again, when you talk about the Big twelve, you're
probably only getting one team in. So this is like
a conference winner type of thing. They got a chance.
Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
Yeah, okay, uh thirty one it is TCU.
Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
I don't think so. Yeah, I don't either. I mean
Texas Tech. I agree with you, TCU. I don't say it. This.
Speaker 4 (01:37:34):
This is gonna list every Big twelve team, isn't it.
I can already tell it's just gonna be like a
Big twelve, like a Big twelve, like every because of
last year's weirdness of the Big twelve.
Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Thirty Nebraska my main man, Matt Rule.
Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
I've told I think I told you this. Nebraska is
like my Big ten sleeper team.
Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (01:37:58):
Really like Royola. Let me tell you if I do too,
I'll give you an example. Another example of why so
we interviewed him for Big Ten Media day and I
asked him, what, what'd you learn about yourself last year?
Then you can help this year again. He was a
true freshman last year. I think we don't give enough
grace a true freshmen. It's hard to play as a
true freshman as much as a quarterback. And I asked him,
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I said, hey, like, would you learn about yourself last year?
They can help you this year. He goes, I learned
essentially that situations and fourth quarter matter more than anything else,
and winning in the fourth quarter is more important than
winning in the first quarter. And that situation is two
minutes drill. And I love that answer. He's right, right,
like those high leverage situations matter so much. It's great
(01:38:43):
to hear that. And so, yeah, Nebraska is a yes
because I think they can be ten and two and
get in as in in you know, in the big
in the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
I mean they have to go to Penn State November
twenty second, they avoid Ohio State and Oregon. Yep, right,
So I think they can wrap up a lot, they
can rack up a lot of wins. I mean, you
got you got Penn State, you got Michigan, you got usc.
Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
Those are the teams they'll probably bully usc USC. I
think it's still just I don't know in the trenches
if they're ready yet for that yet. But I think
baskets for me it would be a yes. I think
they could be like Indiana type.
Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
Yeah, yeah, I like that from Lanscar. Yeah. Twenty nine
is byalor.
Speaker 4 (01:39:35):
No, No, yeah, I don't know they're good enough.
Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
Yeah. Twenty eight VA Tech.
Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
So they are a team that people sort of have
as like a sneaky like AC contender. Sure are we
going with more than one agency team? Where we going
two agency teams.
Speaker 3 (01:40:04):
In the playoffs? I'll just read you know, twenty seven
is no.
Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
I'm not myself like how many ACCY teams are.
Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
Getting in the ride right right?
Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
I would say, matter whether or not you believe that
they have a shot to make it.
Speaker 4 (01:40:16):
I I mean, I guess I would think that's pretty
difficult shot.
Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
Yeah, but God would have in the bransk over them
because because because I think Clemson is going to win
that that conference and so easily.
Speaker 4 (01:40:28):
I think Tech it's a sneaky like runner up in
the conference. This hereammy folds a little bit. Plus I
do like.
Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
I don't believe in Miami's defense again.
Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
Carson Beck is gonna be good, I think, yeah, is
here so that like, I think Miami will have offensively again.
Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
So I'm I'm I guess.
Speaker 4 (01:40:46):
I'm in on but their defense, yeah, Miami, but I
would say Virginia Tech.
Speaker 6 (01:40:50):
No.
Speaker 4 (01:40:51):
But okay, well, what else we got next?
Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
All right, let's say quick tea out, We'll come back,
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Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
There you go, fellas, Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargott, I'm hanging
out all right.
Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
So just checked in.
Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
We're just going through this analytics ESPN analytics. Did the
thirty two teams have a chance for the playoff? We're
batt it's around. Yes, no type of thing you you.
Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
You're ready for? Keep going? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:42:08):
Yeah, I haven't looked at the list on purpose. I
could probably. I'm waiting for you to tell me.
Speaker 3 (01:42:13):
No, I don't want it.
Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
I don't want it. Look at the Yeah, that's good,
all right. Twenty seven it's b y U.
Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
No, they lost their quarterback. No for their quarterback. I guess,
I mean it sounds like nothing. Actually, like I mean,
he broke the honor code, but whatever he was accused
of is not didn't happen. That's what sounds like, right Chan,
you know, but you break the honor code, you're out white.
Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
Twenty six Kansas, Wow, I can see that.
Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
Can we just filter out the big ten, the big
twelve teams in this list? Can we have look like
it's basically just like anyone who's in the big twelves
on this list, it feels like because of.
Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
What happened, right, sure.
Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
Right, right right, I'd say no, all right, this is
an interesting one. Twenty five Florida DJ Languet Lagway.
Speaker 3 (01:43:08):
I hear good things about Florida. Yeah, so I hear.
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (01:43:13):
The problem is Lagway is hurt again and continues to
be hurt, and you just can't win anything if you're hurt.
So they're more talented they've been in past years, and
they finally have sort of matured with their high school
recruiting talent. But the problem is they're just Lagway is
not healthy still. I think if Lagoay is healthy, they're
(01:43:34):
certainly live to be very, very feisty this season. But
they he's got to be healthy.
Speaker 3 (01:43:40):
Yep, yep, yep, I agreed. Twenty four Arizona State.
Speaker 4 (01:43:49):
Yeah, they have a target on their back this year,
which they didn't have last season. And on my podcast
we were visiting some bad takes from last year. I
thought they would win three games last year. I did
not have a good rihonn Arizona State last season.
Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
Yeah, I mean, fairness to you, I mean, come on,
who did I mean, who thought that they would have
that year?
Speaker 3 (01:44:10):
No? Right?
Speaker 4 (01:44:12):
Yeah, but but I but I think that that.
Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
Probably, I mean, yes, they have a chance.
Speaker 4 (01:44:19):
I'm actually surprised they're this low, but they have a
target on their back this year, which they did not
have last year. And their schedule is much tougher this
year than last season, which again in the Big Twelve schedule,
it matters every conference, but last there's a big sort
of divide of like top teams and lower tier teams
in that conference. And you could tell by last year's
success like who had who?
Speaker 3 (01:44:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
Yeah, uh number twenty three Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (01:44:46):
Let's go to the Norman.
Speaker 4 (01:44:48):
So I love their quarterback job the tier. He is
a Washington State transfer. I have money on him to
win the Heisman. I think he has a chance to
be the first pick overall. Like he is really really good.
The problem with Oklahoma, well, they're healthier or a wide receiver,
(01:45:10):
and they they brought a bunch of portal talent, which
is hugely important because they just they just were so
beat up a wide receiver the games where they didn't
even have white House last season. This is a this
is a big boost for them. I just don't know
if they're overall good enough yet for this to win,
to win a championship, to be a playoff team. But
Matier is good enough to be a playoff quarterback, if
(01:45:31):
that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (01:45:32):
Like, I.
Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
Really good defense isn't good. Their defense is not good enough.
But you make that kind of run.
Speaker 4 (01:45:40):
But you have to think with with venables, the defense
is gonna be fine. Though it's gonna be fine. But
they also I think have like I got to look
up the schedules. Their schedule. I think this year is
like the last six games is just miserably brutal. And
again this again. I'm a I'm a big I keep
(01:46:00):
saying this, I keep repeating myself. But schedule matters. I mean,
here we go, So their last six I looked up.
Finally you ready? So they host Michigan, Okay, whatever, Week
five by Kent State, the old Golden Flashes, and here
are you ready? Texas, South Carolina, old miss Tennessee, Alabama, Missouri, LSU.
Speaker 3 (01:46:19):
Ah, that's a murder I would say.
Speaker 4 (01:46:22):
I would say no, I'd say no, no, no playoff
for them?
Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
Who they stop and come on there. That's a murderous schedule.
It's pretty rough. Yeah, twenty two South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
They give a twenty chance, twenty five to make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
It's you know a lot of just on quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:46:44):
You looked at at Cellars and how they finished last season.
I still think this is probably a little higher for
them as a playoff team. You gotta think they gotta
go ten and two.
Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:47:00):
They play Virginia attack week one. We talked about Virginia tack.
That's a neutral site game in Atlanta. They have LSU, Obama,
Old miss A, n M. They and they end with Clemson.
It feels like a pretty difficult task.
Speaker 10 (01:47:16):
Yeah, twenty one, I don't see twenty one. They got
usc Yeah, no, that's I don't I don't see it
at all. There's they're they're snocking.
Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
No, they gotta go play at Illinois Notre Dame. It
was a little a little overrated, but they might be.
But still they're they're gonna be decent. Right, they go
to Oregon and Oregon. Right, Illinois, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Oregon.
That's three losses right there.
Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
Yeah, I agree. Yeah, uh number twenty s m u.
Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
No, No, they got a twenty two percent chance, twenty
one point one percent chance of making the playoffs, a
point five percent chance and winning it.
Speaker 4 (01:48:12):
I mean, look, if we if we go with like
one or two eights, just still tall team playoffs, right,
so like how many how many sec team? I mean
A S teams. Are you getting in there?
Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
I know, I hear you, I hear Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
They're fun to watch that. I will say that.
Speaker 4 (01:48:31):
I agree, but I just don't. You know, they're they're
again like they're schedule this year. You know it's getting
school easy. They got they got Syracuse at home at Clemson,
Miami and Louisville. Yes, split yes, split those right? You
know you have and two to have a chance and
then knock get upset anywhere else?
Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
Yep, number nineteen un l V. No, why are we
doing this? What? What's thee? Now?
Speaker 4 (01:49:00):
Now you know what I said, I was going to
look at it. I have to read this now. I
don't what do we I won't look at anyone other
I'll pretend I haven't looked at this.
Speaker 3 (01:49:06):
What do we do? I'll give it to you.
Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
This is the right spot for UNLV, which can earn
a spot in the playoff as the Mountain West Conference champion. Uh,
unless you know they it's all about Boise. They're October eighteenth,
They're at Boise. This is the only opponent that projects
to beat UNLV. So it's basically comes down that at Boise.
Speaker 4 (01:49:35):
Right, But there's no guarantee at Mount West champion makes
the playoffs though, Like that's.
Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
Right, right, because you can at three percent, you.
Speaker 4 (01:49:45):
Can have an American champion make the playoffs too, Like
it's just it's a it's so yeah, I don't I
don't think so new coach.
Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
I mean, Mullen is a good coach.
Speaker 4 (01:49:54):
But they lost very old I lost their best players
to produe I think.
Speaker 3 (01:49:59):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
Auburn, Wow, I don't see that a little bit either.
Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
All Burn, my god, So here's what they say.
Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
All Burn might be one of the most improved teams
in the country.
Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
So right now.
Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
They got to play Oklahoma A and m Georgia Alabama.
Speaker 3 (01:50:29):
I don't see it, man, I don't see it. I'm
out on that. Yeah. Seventeen kids state?
Speaker 4 (01:50:40):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
In the Big Twelve? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:50:41):
Did they have Averie Johnson's back?
Speaker 3 (01:50:43):
Right?
Speaker 4 (01:50:43):
Yeah? He was very consistent last season. A lot of highs,
a lot of lows, I'd argue, you know, I mean
the Big twelve, sure they could. They have a chance
to win the Big twelve.
Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
Sixteen TWU lane.
Speaker 4 (01:50:58):
So this is basically there. So Tulane and you and
l V are there group of five options right right,
So you know, if Tulane wins out. Now they got
the b YU quarterback who was really good and there's
no honor code at Tulane, so he can he can
talk to you can talk to other people of the
opposite sex there. So he's a good quarterback. What would
(01:51:24):
it be? I am Jewish as well as I I
very much followed by Jews, called right, So what's his
nickname of Tulane? It is a huge Jewish population, by
the way, like I didn't realize that it's a big
Jewish population. He's gonna fit in very well. Uh in
uh in Louisiana. Have you ever been on that campus?
What a beautiful campus? No, no, I spent a decent
amount of time in New Orleans, oddly enough, but I've
(01:51:44):
never been to the campus there.
Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
Well that that is the Garden district outside Tulane. I mean,
it's a beautiful part of the city. Oh my god,
a new or great campus and.
Speaker 4 (01:51:57):
Me get along because we both enjoy gumbo. So it's
a good it's a good, good pairing. It's a great city.
Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
They at Boise fifteen because again you know their their
quarterback is.
Speaker 4 (01:52:14):
Back, which he was good ish last year. But genty,
I mean he did so much for them, buddy, I
just I just don't know if and his yellow issue
and they're.
Speaker 3 (01:52:24):
Gonna they're not beating Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
I don't care what they Hey, October fourth, they're at
Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
They're not winning that game.
Speaker 4 (01:52:30):
I would say no, but Notre Dame has a weird
loss with feels like every year. Yeah, so it's not
a complete no, but I would say it's probably a no.
Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Yeah, fourteen, you're ready Michigan.
Speaker 4 (01:52:48):
Okay, So Michigan is a really interesting team for me
this season because so you have to figure they're going
to be better at quarterback no matter who plays, because
it was so bad last year they could barely complete
a forward pass. The problem is that that quarterback could
(01:53:08):
be a true freshman and you're just not winning or
making a playoff in my opinion, with the true freshman quarters.
Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
Yeah, and guess why I would I would play Bryce
Underwood and I would say, hey, let's go because it's
not about this year anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (01:53:23):
They have to replace offensive line and they've had to
be also like part of being good. And this is
a problem I think Georgia has run into the last
couple of years. Is you do get you do get
a dump of talent to the NFL, and it's hard
to replace. You're not replacing Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis
like you know, like those are just like you're just
(01:53:43):
not It's just impossible. So I think, you know, Mission's
going to go through some of that where they just
have They've had all these pros leave, especially on the
defensive line. And look, they've recruited very well of the
defense and they have good players on the defensive line.
I'm not that's not my point here. My point is
that it's just very hard to continue to have the
same level of players at those positions, and that's not
(01:54:05):
gonna start with Michigan. So you have a new quarterback
right who's probably a true freshman I would put Underwood
like like like you would couple that with, you know,
the idea that like you're just not as good in
other positions. So I think it's a little bit of
a work for them. I like Schroon Moore, Yeah, I too.
I'm rooting for him. I hope he does really well.
Former offensivelignment. You have to always root for those guys,
(01:54:27):
and I hope, I hope you can figure it out
this year, but I just don't know if they're quite
ready for that yet.
Speaker 2 (01:54:33):
All Right, I like it. Let's take a quick too.
We'll come back and finish that list. Turn At touched
to the NFL. We got our betting segment, our betting.
You'll love this. The brain is back. You guys will
hit it off. Uh, the fella is hanging. Fox Sports Radio,
Welcome back fellas hanging.
Speaker 4 (01:54:54):
You know what looks great, buddy, which is the Battery
Boys concert in the Sphere in Vegas. And I we
were gonna go. My wife and I ended July when
I was out in Vegas and we didn't. She didn't come.
It was expensive. We probably should have sucked up and gone.
It looks fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:55:15):
So do you see Metallic? I think just booked a sphere.
Speaker 4 (01:55:20):
Yeah, they're going to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:55:23):
I would love to see Metallic at the Sphere and
that would be kind of cool.
Speaker 4 (01:55:27):
My wife was worried she would get sort of like
motion sickness in there because it's kind of like a
lot happening at once, But it looks like that's not
actually the case at all when you're there. And tickets
were expensive for where we wanted to sit because we're
bougie and we want to sit in a certain place.
But I feel like some of those things where we
just should have done it and like worried about it
later because it looks like it looks like really like
(01:55:48):
all every video I see, it looks like the most fun.
Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
My boy, my dear friend of mine went my buddy boo,
he saw you two and he said it was out
rage I mean he's just like unbelievable of the life
time kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (01:56:01):
Yeah, I'm kind of bummed we didn't. We didn't do
it now and I mean that they might do it
another residency there again, but like it's never it's not
the first. We should we chucked it up. Would you
want to see it? Would be your number one to
see there? Oh, I mean Tupac's dead otherwise, I mean
that would be that would be that'd be kind of fun.
Like up a smoke.
Speaker 3 (01:56:23):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:56:23):
I mean, look, I I like my wife and I
like like the dance music, like electric dance music. Like
I would go see one of those artists there's spear.
Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's fun stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:56:35):
Like my wife went to she went to E d
C again this year probably the last time. I think
I think she's past that stage in her life now,
and she did it one last time, it would be uh,
it looks like the most fun. Yeah, I'm not really
like big Erano. Probably like artists now most of me
I listened to just like whatever my kids put on.
Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
I'm not I'm not going to see any of those concerts.
Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
Right well, you know, listen when you when when we
become dads, we lose we you know, there's a part
of us that is lost.
Speaker 4 (01:57:04):
TikTok radio is kind of brutal sometimes, I'm all right,
I mean whatever, we'll put on tik talk radio again.
Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
You're you're the baby. If all right, we'll put it
on for you. So it can be kind of brutal.
Speaker 4 (01:57:19):
So uh, I you know, you know, any of like
the West Coast hip hop I'm I'm in.
Speaker 3 (01:57:24):
I'm in on those artists.
Speaker 2 (01:57:27):
It's cool, all right, real quick, let's just finish this
and then, uh we got to talk Micah again at
the top. We touched on it early in the show. Obviously,
it's the big story of the week. Michaeh Parsons and
the cowboys, the Flowling Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (01:57:48):
We gotta get back and touch that.
Speaker 2 (01:57:50):
We'll have our betting expert come on next hour to
look at some futures. And also, you know Washington got
clearance to build a dome. Boom commanders, all right, And
I want to ask about that because there's a big
debate in Philadelphia about a potential dome in Philly.
Speaker 3 (01:58:10):
No, I know, I hear you, buddy, never nah, thank
you real quick.
Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
LSU thirty percent chance to make the playoffs, yes, shoe
percent chance to win it. I'm in on that, oh,
miss thirty percent chance one point five percent?
Speaker 3 (01:58:31):
You like, miss? Yeah, I mean I think I think any.
Speaker 4 (01:58:33):
Of those SEC fringe teams can you know, those kind
of agreed who's fighting for number four?
Speaker 3 (01:58:38):
Can make it?
Speaker 9 (01:58:38):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (01:58:39):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:58:39):
A and m is there they're eleven. Tennessee is number ten.
Number nine is Notre Dame forty five percent chance. They
only give them a two point seven percent chance to
win it all.
Speaker 4 (01:58:56):
Yeah, I mean they're the same position that Michigan's ind
I mean, Young Car's probably gonna play like just this
too young again, they lost a lot too as well,
so I would to that that that probably feels tough.
Speaker 2 (01:59:07):
Miami is number eight, Number seven is Clemson we we
like Clemson.
Speaker 3 (01:59:14):
Number six is Oregon go Ducks. There you go your boys.
Organ's really good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
Yeah, uh. Number seven obviously Penn State. Our number five
is Penn State. Number four is Bama, and then it's
Ohio State and Georgia.
Speaker 4 (01:59:34):
And number one is Texas. Yeah, the Texas thing. I mean,
are we sure?
Speaker 3 (01:59:39):
I mean we are? I'm we sure he's good man,
I don't know, I'm sure he's really that good? All right? Yeah,
oh you're in on that. Okay, i'd buy I'm buying it. No,
I'm gonna buy it. They're a playoff team of course, champions.
Another question.
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off the air. All right, Uh, big story, Jeff. We
touched on it obviously the first hour. We talked a
lot about it. Micah the Cowboys, Jerrah, it's a disaster.
(02:01:07):
He had an open letter on social media to the
Cowboys where he poured his heart out ultimately asked for
a trade. Samuel doesn't want to beat her anymore. We
know how badly was handled.
Speaker 3 (02:01:22):
How does it end?
Speaker 4 (02:01:25):
So it ends with him getting his deal. Which is
the dumbest part of all of this is antagonizing your
best player who is young and wants to be in
the building when you're gonna get a deal done anyways.
To me, feels really counterproductive if you're the Cowboys, which
I could say counterproductive is the Cowboys brand at the moment,
(02:01:48):
right you know, everyone points out that well, Ceedee, Lamb
and Dak got upset too, and they got their deals done.
Yeah they did, because in the end it would be
unwise to not pay those players, but you've now made
it more expensive, and you've made it to the point
where not only is is your youngest sending player wanting out,
(02:02:09):
you have players like Ceedee Lamb who are tweeting support
of Michael Parsons. So you have your better players also
being upset about this, and again it just feels like.
Speaker 3 (02:02:22):
A very unnecessary you know, unnecessary.
Speaker 4 (02:02:28):
Uh, you know, the distraction for for no for no
purpose when you're going to do this anyways, And look,
you want to be a franchise that pays your young
players because it really sets the tone for your organization
when those guys that have that you have drafted get paid.
(02:02:51):
What it does is it it really lets everyone know
that if I play well too, I can also get paid.
It also rewards a scouting department for finding Michael Parsons,
for drafting michaup but he wasn't hard to find, but
obviously you know what I mean. And it just lightens
up the mood for the whole team when you pay
these superstars. And then the manner with which it appears
(02:03:11):
that they negotiated sort of not in good faith. Did
Jerry Jones here trying to go go around his agent's back,
thinking Michael Parsons was dumb enough to not an include
his agent in this entire process. All of it feels
like a pretty big unforced air, which seems, unfortunately be
a lot of what the Cowboys do nowadays. And it
feels very unnecessary to be here and have to worry
(02:03:35):
about whether or not Parsons is gonna get his money.
Speaker 2 (02:03:39):
Yeah, man, and like I'm with you, I can't see
you trade.
Speaker 3 (02:03:46):
It would have to say it. It would have to be.
Speaker 4 (02:03:50):
For an uncomfortable amount of assets. Plus when you trade
for him, you have to pay him too, so you've
given up two first round picks and whatever he's gonna make. Now,
it depends where you are as a team. Right, So
if you think you're going to be good, okay, and
you trade away a first round pick, that first round
(02:04:10):
pick is going to be in the late twenties or
even thirties, It might be worth it then to do it. Right,
if you're trading the thirtieth pick, so that means you
didn't win a Super Bowl, you you lost it in
the championship game. For a guy like Parsons, that that
that could be worth the money, right, That could be.
Speaker 2 (02:04:28):
They would ever do Yeah, but they would ever do it.
And that was where people have feorized that is that
the Commanders would be a good fit. And they absolutely would.
But you're not trading him to the Commanders. So I
don't know who that team is going to be that's
gonna give up two first round picks and pay him.
But I mean teams are gonna call. They're gonna they're
(02:04:52):
gonna they're gonna.
Speaker 4 (02:04:53):
At least call over there and see what, see what
see whethery're either actually open for business or not.
Speaker 2 (02:04:58):
Yeah, you know, I'm trying to think of a team.
Speaker 3 (02:05:03):
You know what about Buffalo?
Speaker 4 (02:05:07):
Uh yeah, I mean they always trade they seem to
trade the first round pick anyways, every year. They would
be a team that would I think certainly be up
for this discussion.
Speaker 2 (02:05:16):
I was looking for a an AFC team and a team
like the Bills.
Speaker 3 (02:05:22):
I don't think the Chiefs no can handle it, just not.
Speaker 4 (02:05:28):
I mean, they pay so many players. It would be
I think if you can have Chris Jones under contract,
it would be easier.
Speaker 3 (02:05:36):
But but but the thing.
Speaker 4 (02:05:38):
About the Chiefs is they're not like a Michael Parsons
away from being good to already good. You know, like
the thing with the Buffalo point would be like he
can't they need something to help them beat the Chiefs
in the postseason, and this could be the missing piece
where the Chiefs don't need They're not Michael Parts away
from a championship.
Speaker 3 (02:06:00):
They're they're they but they don't they Yeah, but they
told me, I'm just looking at needs.
Speaker 4 (02:06:05):
Sure, they need a pass rusher. But if you're thinking
to yourself, like long term, those two first round picks
and that money is probably more valuable to us in the.
Speaker 3 (02:06:14):
Long term, I don't. I don't. We're Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (02:06:17):
You can make the case like let's just sell out
and win a win a championship right when they get
you a super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (02:06:22):
They they at least gotta get to a super Bowl
during this era, and that's too good to help them
get there, obviously.
Speaker 2 (02:06:31):
And then I look elsewhere, you know, you got we
talked about the Bills and nobody in the in the
a f C North, and then uh, you know, you
know Chargers.
Speaker 4 (02:06:49):
Yeah, there's always gonna be a team.
Speaker 3 (02:06:52):
He's great, Mike is great.
Speaker 2 (02:06:54):
I'm just looking at trying to figure out, you know,
that team that could have some fus flexibility and could
use another edge.
Speaker 4 (02:07:05):
There's probably some wildcard teams out there that we don't
know about quite yet, and those are the ones that
are kind of fun because they're gonna get a report
of so and so look like someone I know where,
like like what a bit of Atlanta who just you know,
they drafted two pass rushers, like they need pass rush
really really badly. What if they just now they don't
have a first round pick next year, which really hurts
(02:07:26):
this discussion because they trade away for James Pierce. It
was just a really bad trade in my opinion for
a first round pick for him. But a team like that,
like out of sort of out of nowhere, that is
sort of young and has some picks. Again, it's not
Atlanta because they trade the first round pick last season away.
Now imagine this is why another reason why Now it's
hard to look at it in hindsight, but why I
(02:07:47):
think you just don't trade away the first round pick
for James Pierce. You could be a discussion for Michael
Parsons if you had that first round pick still.
Speaker 2 (02:07:55):
Show Yeah, no, I know, you're right, you're right, You're
I'm just looking at most picks.
Speaker 4 (02:08:07):
Pittsburgh has a ton of picks, but I don't think
they're gonna trade for it for they need a quarterback. Correct,
They're not trading their picks away for that in the future. Again,
so this is the part of the trade. Who's gonna
do it? That's the question. Yeah, it's a big hit, right,
I know, I know. Now I think you're you're ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:08:25):
The other team.
Speaker 4 (02:08:26):
That's always in the discussions and they will not happen
as the Eagles in every discussion like.
Speaker 3 (02:08:31):
This doesn't do it.
Speaker 4 (02:08:32):
But how he I mean, he finds a way to
make this, he would do.
Speaker 3 (02:08:36):
It in his second. They need an they need an edge.
Speaker 4 (02:08:41):
They could use another age they really mean need is
probably strong. They could use one more guy. They don't
need to have.
Speaker 2 (02:08:49):
Them, No, but they don't have I mean right now
off the edges their question marks, right, like they got
Jlex Hunt, Nolan Smith, why love?
Speaker 4 (02:09:00):
But Colin really won the Super Bowl. He looked like
he's he's got chance.
Speaker 2 (02:09:04):
Yes, I agree, and then after that they had nobody.
I mean, they have Ouch and Ojalai. So they're they're
freight off the edge. Like that's the one position we've
been looking at, like, uh, going in now Nolan Is.
Speaker 3 (02:09:21):
I love Nolan Smith.
Speaker 2 (02:09:23):
The only issue is he's very violent at the porty
contact and he has a concussion now, But it's it's
mood anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:09:31):
How he would do it with the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (02:09:33):
There's no way in your right mind you could send
Mike uh to back here. He loves the Eagles. He's
from Harrisburg, which is an hour away. But there's no
way you could trade him to the Eagles and see
him two times a year. So what's what's so funny
to me? I was thinking about this the other day, like,
you know, for the Commanders, Like what is like you
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baseballly have you know, you know, basketball like feel three
four way trades? Like what it's a like a like
a like he goes to the colt to then trade
him immediately to the Eagles company, would happy? That'd be
pretty funny, right, Like it'd be funny if that if
like there was some like weird back channel way to
get him to the Eagles or to the Commanders. That's
(02:10:18):
very much like not a football thing to do, but
that would be pretty funny if they worked out some
sort of back channel way to get him into those
into those.
Speaker 3 (02:10:27):
Spaces made Jerry's head would explode.
Speaker 4 (02:10:30):
Oh, he wouldn't like it.
Speaker 3 (02:10:31):
His head would explode.
Speaker 2 (02:10:33):
Yeah, I you know, it's uh, Ultimately, I think what's
gonna happen, which is what you said earlier, which is
he's going to go back to that, like he's going
to go back and play for the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (02:10:44):
But of course.
Speaker 2 (02:10:47):
And you would look at it and go, this is
ridiculous because all it does is further hurt the brand. Right,
it just further hurts the brand. Yeah, it's dumb.
Speaker 3 (02:10:59):
It It.
Speaker 4 (02:11:03):
Further goes to the point of like, who's holding them back?
Jerry is Like he's the one, like he's the one
holding them back from winning championships. And and I'll make
this point again, it's worth talking about Jerry Jones is
not making day to day decisions for the Dallas Cowboys.
His son is and and Will and Will I think
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that's McCoy, right, who's their their player personnel guy who's
really good and they've drafted well like they they like
that's actually something that that that that they've done, like
they should be proud of.
Speaker 3 (02:11:44):
Jerry is the is the.
Speaker 4 (02:11:47):
Like he's the the forward facing like you know, he's
the one that does the press conferences. He's the one
that does you know that that gets out of front.
But he's not making decisions. Will mccle sorry, I want
to get that right. Will McClay is the name of
the he's vice president of playing a personnel. But yeah,
he's in charge of the roster. Him and Stephen Jones.
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And when Michael Parson said in his letter, I gave
my request to Stephen Jones, Jerry Jones is the figurehead,
and Jerry Jones certainly has to sign off on any
sort of contract of that magnitude. But he's not doing
day to day for them. But he's overseen the entire process,
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which leads to this, to them not getting these guys
to sign early enough and not being proactive and how
you build a roster. But he's not doing day to day.
I think we don't we don't acknowledge that enough. He's
not doing the day to day things in that in
that building. It's other guys, but he's overseen the entire process.
Speaker 6 (02:12:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:12:49):
Man, it's crazy, the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (02:12:54):
And they look like a team like here's Ceedee Lamb
and he's he has to speak out. Everybody's gonna speak
out like this is this is crazy. And then and
then you saw we talked about it, but earlier you
saw Brian Schottenheimer doing the sprints, which is stupid, Like
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do you just watch those guys?
Speaker 3 (02:13:18):
It was a joke.
Speaker 2 (02:13:19):
They're jogging, yeah, and you got coaches run it like,
come on, man.
Speaker 3 (02:13:24):
This is not so.
Speaker 4 (02:13:25):
Here's the thing the giants were doing that too, is
so they were doing sprints because they were fighting.
Speaker 3 (02:13:32):
And so was enough fighting.
Speaker 4 (02:13:34):
And you know, fighting's fine until it ruins too much
a practice time. Coaches hate it. They like that they
fighting this every now and then, but two three four
fights in a practice it just ruins the practice, right
and you have to stop down and you'll get a
certain number of minutes now on the practice field, and
they're just there's no recourse though for coaches like you,
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the players that you have to respect the coach essentially
to not fight, and that's policed by the players for
the most part. So there's nothing like if a coach
wants to show dominance, he does have to sort of
make him run him. It's only he can do. He
can't he start finding guys, I guess, but that feels
necessary in that moment, so I sort of get like
why he did.
Speaker 2 (02:14:16):
That, But it's it's like a little bit of Harry
High School. You know, watch you know it is and
you will.
Speaker 4 (02:14:26):
You also hate the Cowboys, so that's also not you know,
maybe the best the best person to talk about this.
Uh so that's also part of this. You're a hater
hater hater alert. So that's that. You know you mentioned
Andy Reid. I mean, yeah, Ay wouldn't do that because
guys don't fight more than once because they respect coach
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read like, if coach read like again, one fight's fine,
but you're not wasting coach reads practice time.
Speaker 3 (02:14:56):
I'll tell you that you ain't go allow that to happen.
Speaker 2 (02:14:58):
No, unless he was back in the day and it
was two a days and it was it was it
was run ying and run ya would start a fight
to get out of the rest of practice.
Speaker 4 (02:15:10):
Yes, but also then you had unlimited practice time. So
if you fought, like coaches could just start practice over again. Remember,
oh practice is bad, start over again? Everyone, You're like,
what what what?
Speaker 3 (02:15:23):
Start over practice? Now? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:15:25):
Yeah, it's different. Now it's different, it's way different now. No, No,
now you're you're spot on. Hey, I want to get
to this, which is the dome situation. So Washington's gonna
have a dome, They're gonna have a dome stadium there.
There was already talks about Philadelphia perhaps getting a dome,
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and the idea of domes in.
Speaker 3 (02:15:54):
Washington and Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (02:15:58):
Ew the antiseptic nature of a dome in the northeast
mid Atlantic.
Speaker 3 (02:16:05):
I think it's terrible.
Speaker 4 (02:16:08):
I hate it so much. I hate it. Football shoe
put outside on grass I I just I just disagree
with that wholeheartedly. I do think from an ownership perspective,
you know, a dome allows you to host a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (02:16:25):
Right, but even that all kiddy side real quick, I'm sorry,
but the super Bowl needs to be in destination cities.
Speaker 3 (02:16:34):
I'm with you. I agree.
Speaker 2 (02:16:35):
I agree that, like like like, like listen. I live
in Philadelphia. It's a it's a great city. It's my hometown.
I love it dearly. It means the world to me.
But it's not a super Bowl city, nor.
Speaker 3 (02:16:49):
Is d C. Like your super Bowls need to be
in New Orleans, l A. You know, Miami like it.
I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (02:16:59):
As someone who ends them for work, I would much
prefer to be in a warm weather place than a
cold weather place. Uh for for that, No, I agree,
but that I mean, that's that's why, right. I mean,
you're you're getting to host super Bowls when you get
yourself in a situation where you put a dome and
you host concerts and you get to do all this
stuff in the winter that you just can't do otherwise.
Speaker 3 (02:17:19):
But I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (02:17:21):
Look, if my argument has always been of green Bay
can have grass, if Pittsburgh can have grass, if Philly
can have grass, of DC can have grass in the
in the in the december, then you can do you
just can't if you want to, and you should want to.
It gets crazy to me that I live in Charlotte
that the Panthers don't have grass anymore, like you live
in the South.
Speaker 3 (02:17:41):
What do you know.
Speaker 4 (02:17:41):
I get it, you want to host soccer and you
want to go Like I understand, I get it from
a business perspective, but just from a player perspective and
someone who who thinks that, you know, we should do
what's best for the players too, like the players, we
want grass. Now some players are say they don't want
to play the cold Okay, fine, I mean sure that's
your opinion, But I want to play in.
Speaker 2 (02:18:04):
Grass, but it isn't Let's just look for the game itself.
The game needs the different climates. It's a part of
building your team. And you know, Northeast in winter is
windy and cold, you know, so you run the ball
like there is a great you know that Eagles Rams
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Snow game in the playoffs was awesome. Like you have
a dome that goes away and it all becomes the
same thing. Basketball on you know, in a dome, basketball
on turf.
Speaker 4 (02:18:40):
I agree, Yeah, you won't won't find me disagreeing there.
Speaker 3 (02:18:45):
But I'm all for football. We played outside. Yeah, and
you know what it is too, like there's a cultural football.
Speaker 2 (02:18:55):
What I love about football is that it represents Americana,
right and and there's a culture with it around it,
right and like and and it's you know, it goes
to how we how we celebrated in the South right
sec to the northeast, or the Big ten in the Midwest,
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right or in a dome in uh you know, we
pick and pick one of your dome spots. Like I
get that Detroit, even though I think Detroit should be outdoors,
all right, they got one. But you know, it kills
me that Minnesota is a dome, right it used to
be uh used to be outdoor Metropolitan Stadium. Like you're
getting yourself there, buddy, rather fact. I know, but you know,
(02:19:39):
we're gonna tell you. I just liked the idea that
Green Bay's cold, right with you? I play I played
a playoff game in Green Bay. Ands we left, but
it's cool, man, Yeah, yeah, anyway, Uh, we gotta take
quick too, we'll come back. You're gonna love this. Uh.
As a betting man, You're gonna talk to our man,
the Brad Feiberg, who is a sharp of sharps, so
(02:20:05):
you guys will chop it up. Coming up, looking forward
to that. Fella is hanging out on a Fox Sports Saturday.
Speaker 6 (02:20:13):
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Speaker 3 (02:20:26):
Fellas. Welcome back, Jeff and the Brain.
Speaker 2 (02:20:33):
Yeah, let's take a look at sports from a gambling standpoint,
From a betting standpoint, We'll look.
Speaker 3 (02:20:38):
At some of the futures.
Speaker 2 (02:20:40):
We'll take a look at college We'll take a look
at the NFL with our man, the expert, Brad Feinberg
the Brain.
Speaker 9 (02:20:50):
Good morning, Brain, Good morning, how are you guys.
Speaker 3 (02:20:54):
Good meet Jeff Schwartz, Jeff, meet Brad Feinberg the Brain.
Speaker 9 (02:21:00):
Yeah, Jeff, good morning to you. You're doing upstanding today.
Speaker 3 (02:21:05):
I'm doing great. Another day to gamble in sports.
Speaker 9 (02:21:07):
Let's go exactly any day for that. It's a good day, right.
Speaker 3 (02:21:10):
I knew you guys did hit it off.
Speaker 2 (02:21:12):
And of course Braid's a great sportsman, so you know
he knows all about your career, Jeff. You know, especially
he's a he's an NFC east Man. So uh, let's
get it started.
Speaker 3 (02:21:24):
Boys.
Speaker 2 (02:21:25):
Let's tackle the world of college football and then we'll
go to the NFL. So, Braid, let's look at some
of the maybe win titles, some of the teams that
you like that you're taking a shot on futures wise
in college football.
Speaker 9 (02:21:43):
You know, it's funny. They will want my biggest investment
to date. The line has definitely moved some, but I
like Clemson. Clemson is a team I actually believe it
or not have ranked number one in my power ratings.
I know Dabo has been off the last few years.
Although actually didn't get here. Actually was a decent year
for them. They did beat SMU in in the finals.
(02:22:05):
But to me, I really like Kate club Nick. I
think this team is really poised. I didn't think the
schedule was crazy bad. The first game is gonna be
obviously very telling versus L s U. But to me,
Clemson is a team that I like very very much.
They're my biggest investment terms are winning the title. In fact,
I only bet on two teams. I bet on them
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and I made a smaller bet and Notre Dame. I
think Notre Dame is still extremely talented, really liked the coach,
thought the schedule was manageable, and those would be probably
you know, the two teams that you know from it
from its standpoint of winning the national championship, Anthony, those
were the two teams I took a shot on.
Speaker 4 (02:22:48):
Well, I have Clemson to an acc I have not
taken it over yet because it's like minus two hundred.
I haven't been a playoff parlay with a couple of
Big ten teams. So I'm with you on on Clemson.
Speaker 9 (02:23:00):
Uh there, uh everyone, Jeff, you know that they opened
nine and a half. I was you've already get plus
one twenty on the over.
Speaker 4 (02:23:07):
Yeah, I mean I'm a little late to the party
there obviously, but uh, yeah I missed. I may look,
and there's time still for these numbers to change, so
there's still opportunities to get to get some numbers there.
Speaker 3 (02:23:18):
And in week one too.
Speaker 4 (02:23:19):
The LSU has been terrible Week one against anyone really
lost us see last year of Austin Florida State twice
in a row. So of course, you know, I think
they would that week one.
Speaker 3 (02:23:29):
He's got it, Brian Kelly has to. He's got to
come out prepared.
Speaker 4 (02:23:34):
No, I think he might be prepared. Doesn't mean they're
gonna win. I think I think is really I think
they're really good.
Speaker 3 (02:23:40):
But I can't say if you're a lock to win
the game. I like ls you now, yeah, look I was.
Speaker 9 (02:23:46):
She was freaking good. Yeah, look, I mean you kidding me.
It's a hard that's a hard game. It's a really
hard game. It's to me a game I'm extremely looking
forward to, obviously, moving like crazy for Clemson to start
off the year. Well, and it's a game that Look,
you have two top teams, Uh, it should be a
great geam and obviously LSU is strong quarterback. Well, I mean,
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I should should be a great game. Again, I just
think Colenson is the better team. We'll see how it
plays out, but I I, you know, consience the team. Again.
I'm very bullish on this year.
Speaker 4 (02:24:15):
Sticky in the ACC. My favorite win total this year
is Georgia Tech over seven and a half. How do
you have them rated for the season.
Speaker 3 (02:24:24):
I have didn't.
Speaker 9 (02:24:24):
I have Georgia Tech rated quite high. Agree with you
and Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech to me is a team
that look I think absolutely can make some real noise
uh in the ACC. I think they're a very strong team,
and they played they were last year. To me, Georgia
Tech was just really like a What's what I'm looking for?
(02:24:46):
Like a like a spunky team that was really like
undervalued the quarterback play. I just again, this is a
team again. I like Georgia Tech quite a bit. I
absolutely think that they're going to have a really really
solid year. I have them probably ranked my power ratings
around the thirtieth best team or so. I think I
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think they're very very solid. I absolutely agree with you,
and I do think that they'll win. I haven't projected
to win closer to one game over the number that
you said. I haven't closer to eight and a half
h in my numbers.
Speaker 3 (02:25:20):
So yeah, I do.
Speaker 9 (02:25:21):
I do. Like the George techover, how do you.
Speaker 3 (02:25:25):
See the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (02:25:27):
Like, if you're just looking at it, give me your
plug because we're talking about probability of different playoff teams.
Speaker 3 (02:25:34):
Give me your lot like the teams that you love
that you see in the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (02:25:40):
Well, I mean, for me, my favorite team I told
you was was right, do you have t would be
my personal favorite. Now, again, Clemson's not rated as high
as some of the other teams. But look, I mean
look in terms of a lock, I mean, look, I yes,
she's I actually do like I'll say this in Ohio
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State's favorite to win the Big Ten. But actually I
have Penn State rated number one in the Big Ten.
You get you know, you Penn State extremely well, Anthony,
But actually I have Penn State ranked extremely high. Penn
State for me would probably be if I had to
pick another team outside of Clemson, just in terms of
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who is the best forgetting odds, just for forgetting odds right,
just to see that I that, I think I would
say it's it's Penn State.
Speaker 3 (02:26:32):
Look you have to put.
Speaker 9 (02:26:33):
Obviously, I still do have Ohio State ranked quite high, Texas, Georgia, Alabama,
I have notre name rank really high. Those are probably
in Clemson. Those are probably my top seven teams Anthony,
And actually I do have LSU ranked right there as
well too, which is why I think at LSU Clemson
game is going to be an incredible game.
Speaker 4 (02:26:54):
You know, when James Franklin beats someone who he shouldn't beat,
and that'll be the first time. So I mean, i'd like,
I'm I'm on that idea of Penn State being good.
But to win a championships you have to beat someone
who shouldn't be. He shouldn't you know, That's been the
issue all these years, right, he just hasn't yet won,
hasn't won that year.
Speaker 3 (02:27:10):
That's fair.
Speaker 4 (02:27:10):
Yeah, I have Utah pretty high this year. I think
that injury wise, they're just gonna have better injury luck.
They're better at quarterback this season.
Speaker 3 (02:27:18):
What do you have? What do you have? Utah?
Speaker 4 (02:27:20):
I have him to you know, I took a little
piece and then to make the playoffs at I think
five point fifty. I think they can be a playoff
team this year.
Speaker 9 (02:27:27):
Yeah, Utah. Again, I'm looking at my rank. I have
Utah ranked twenty ninth right now in my in my
Power ratings, and again, yeah, obviously, look, last year to
me for Utah is a year that you just in
my opinion, almost have to throughout the entire year. I mean,
they just got every The quarterback situation last year with
the rise ling was just so bad, so unfortunate. They
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just you know, they just didn't have a chance. It
was one of those things where it just wasn't a
year obviously a really well coached team, always been just
a solid, solid program. Am Again, I absolutely agree with you.
I think last year is a year for Utah. Again,
I felt just the injury situation and the big twelve
this year. I'll say this, you want to talk about
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a mubble conference where a lot of teams can win it,
I mean I have Kansas State rank pretty high, bail
or Texas Tech PCU. Then you know a su I mean,
I really think that conference.
Speaker 3 (02:28:24):
You went to about it.
Speaker 9 (02:28:25):
If you're looking to take a shot everyone listening to
this on a team to win a conference where you
can actually get really good odds, that would be the
conference I'm looking at. Because yeah, there's there's teams, they're
all Nobled, and you'll be able to get at least
five to one on every team in that conference. I
personally think it's really really close. But I absolutely do
agree with you, Jeff, that Utah certainly answered a good shot.
Speaker 4 (02:28:46):
Took over quickly here, and I found this really interesting.
The other day, you know, there was a rumor of
swirling about Dion retiring. Essentially I got that we all
got the same text from the same people. I'm sure
one person put it out there and then people start
a hammering collar on those wind total it's now five
and a half. I was at six and a half.
I have under six and a half. I can't get
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out under six and a half. Now it's gone like
this is one of those moments where everyone kind of
got it wrong today because I was kind of surprised
to see it move that much. And I know that
the people that had the money on it, but I
was just shocked to see.
Speaker 3 (02:29:19):
It move this much.
Speaker 9 (02:29:21):
Yeah. Well, it's funny, Jeff. I'd actually do have a
Colorado under six and a half ticket in my portfolio,
but HI laid like a dollar thirty, yes or not,
it's the.
Speaker 4 (02:29:28):
First wager I made this offseason.
Speaker 9 (02:29:30):
Yeah, yeah, I did it. Yeah, I did it a
while back. But again, you know it's funny and I
know where you got that texture. But yeah, I listened.
If obviously they had lost him, I think that would
have been the disruption factor, a huge, huge issue. So
I understand why Jeff people were hammering at the time.
But yeah, I mean, listen now that he's obviously just
hope the guy's okay from a forgetting sports from a
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personal level, hopefully he's okay. But yeah, I mean he's
obviously looks like he is hopefully going to be there
and whatnot. And yeah, usually when he's happen, it's like
people don't go back and then just bet the other side,
even though the information turned out to be inaccurate, you
know what I mean. So I mean, from a quote
nquote value standpoint, you know, maybe you could argue there's
still some value on the Coroado over based on the
(02:30:13):
quote unquote fake news that that happened. That really wasn't
the case. But I actually, again, Colorade as a team
actually lean under there.
Speaker 3 (02:30:21):
To be honest.
Speaker 2 (02:30:22):
All right, let's go to the NFL, and you know,
how is the future market for you there? And some
of the stuff that we've seen, right, like obviously the
mic and news. How's that affecting you know what we've
seen so far early in camp, some of the news
to your future market.
Speaker 9 (02:30:43):
It's interesting, Jeff. I'm curious when you when you played
I guess with the Mayors it probably wasn't like that,
but man, I don't. It's almost like I'd never seen.
It's almost like he goes out of his way. He's
bored in life or something. He's going out of his
way to just anger his best player, which I don't
as someone who does this from a probability standpoint, I
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always try to understand logic, and when I see illogical moves,
it does something to my brain where I struggle with
it and to me, this is so that shit. You
know what, I'm sorry that you know that's crazy crazy.
I'm sorry, apological because so crazy that that that he's
doing this to his best player. I just don't understand it.
And from a win Steven wins standpoint, Guys, the total
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is seven and a half right on Dallas. I actually
do have a Dallas over seven and a half ticket
in my portfolio. This is making me think maybe I
should get off it, because just the distraction. Jeff, you
know you played in the league many years. Sure you
saw stuff where where like in owner, where something happened
with the team and it just causes disruption, which you
don't need. It's hard enough to win in the NFL,
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which when everything's going smoothly hard, you know, it's so
hard to win, and when you have an owner who's
seemingly sabotaging the year and getting your play, it's just
I don't get it. So I actually may get off
my alice seven and a half wins over and flipflops
to the younger because I don't know how this is
good and I just don't understand it.
Speaker 4 (02:32:08):
So actually the Dallas to me, the over is a
fantastic wager. I think they're actually a pretty good team.
I don't trust Shawanheimer, which is the reason I haven't
done it yet. I actually might do it now. I
think Parsons will play this year for them, and he'll
get his deal eventually. It's why cheaper now to get
it today one future. I want to discuss with you.
Speaker 3 (02:32:28):
I think this real quick because we got to take
a quick break break. Can you hag for a minute, yes, sir, Yes,
Like let's take a let's take a quick to you.
Speaker 2 (02:32:39):
We'll come back and then we'll finish the conversation. Got
to ask him about baseball too, and how the deadline
move those markets as well. Where the fellas, Jeff Schwartz,
I'm Anthony Garganta right here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey,
welcome back, fellas. I hope everybody has a great Saturday
and a great weekend. Jeff Schwartz. And for Jason Fitz
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Jeff and I it's a lot of fun as always.
Thanks to our man Mighty Mark, our fine producer and
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do such a great job every week. We're very grateful.
We're finishing up with our man, the Brain, Brad Feinberg. Jeff,
(02:33:24):
I know, yet you wanted to hit the brain with something.
Speaker 3 (02:33:27):
Yeah, NFL question.
Speaker 9 (02:33:30):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (02:33:30):
I think the Chiefs Division odds are very low considering
what they had been over the years, and this is
the cheapest price you've gone on them and forever. What
is there to Chiefs to win the division? I think
it's still minus one twenty, which again to me, I've
gobbled that out that feels way too low.
Speaker 9 (02:33:47):
Well, you know, let's I wouldn't want to arm wrestle you,
but we're gonna arm wrestle here because I don't don't
agree with you on this one. And obviously you know
you're extremely knowledgeable about this. If I understand every single year,
death taxes and the Chiefs being good, right, I understand that,
But I personally I don't love the Chiefs this year
as much as I feel like last year. I thought
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like the luck factor, if there's such a thing, was
through the roof, and I guess it finally came to
help in the Super Bowl, where all these crazy, crazy
games that they were winning that they shouldn't have won
based on paper, so to speak. It came to Fruition
where they were just so dominated in the line of
scrimmage in Acamim siegeles, I understand that every team is
as good as Eagles, but I actually, Jeff, I think
that the Raiders were vastly improved this year. I think
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they're going to be a much tougher out this year
than they were last year. That was two Winsday had
in one of which they met. They got lucky because
of that last field, Well they should have lost anyway.
I think the Chargers were better, and I absolutely think
Denver would be better. So Jeff, this is a team
in the past was going six to o quite a
bit in their division. I would not blink an eye
if they went three and three. I bet the Chiefs
under eleven and a half and I bet they would
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not win the division. I think their receiving course personally overrated.
I think Kelsey is getting older. Chris Jones against a
great Hall of Fame player, but he's now another year older.
I just don't think the Chiefs are or are going
to be the team this year, and I again I'm
actually fading them.
Speaker 4 (02:35:18):
I think they're still pretty good. I think people look
at last year and think about the close games that
it was. It was luck they wont of those games.
I just think they sort of stopped caring and something.
I was at the Panthers game. They were up two
scores in the third quarter and stopped trying. Sure, and
I think their offense lines better this year, and their
wide receivers are I think last year they played with
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no Richie Rice, no Hollywood Brown, and a rookie. Those
guys are all back this year. I just think they're
going to be a better team, but the division's better.
I mean that's always Chargers are better. They always have
a tough schedule.
Speaker 9 (02:35:53):
Yeah you think Hollywood, How good is Hollywood Brown Jet?
Speaker 3 (02:35:57):
Like, I feel like.
Speaker 9 (02:36:00):
I think I'm talking about them theory on it. I
don't think it's any gay.
Speaker 3 (02:36:04):
Hey, I don't want to get backed down.
Speaker 2 (02:36:06):
Let's go to I got to ask you about baseball
because brain like it was wild. I mean trade Della
was insane. What like what happened with your markets? And
like the Padres like my guy?
Speaker 9 (02:36:22):
Yeah, yet Anthony, when the when?
Speaker 8 (02:36:25):
Then?
Speaker 9 (02:36:26):
When the Mariners got a Josh Naylor, I made a
really large wage on them to win the World Series,
And I'm like, even if they don't do anything, I'm smart.
I think it is now the best team in the
American League. I think they have the best pitching and
their hitting is really close. Now they got Suarez. Love
the Mariners. I have the Mariners definitely. Power is the
best team in the American League. I love the Mariners.
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I again, I think they did you get in that
what I got them at thirty to one, thirteen to one.
Speaker 4 (02:36:53):
I think I think we have the same the same
people that tell us because I was told on a
certain day to take them thirty to one, and I passed,
and I looked.
Speaker 3 (02:37:02):
Like a dummy.
Speaker 9 (02:37:04):
Yeah, well, listen, sometimes you're right, you know, you know
how that goes. It's just you know, luck of the draw.
But but yeah, I like the Mariners very very much.
Look at me, and now I look, I give I
give them a lot of credit. The Padres, I mean
they're they're you talk about it like you know, ownerships
that don't care and don't want to win. I mean there,
they gave up. I think I saw like fifteen of
their top twenty prospects. You never anything like that.
Speaker 3 (02:37:24):
I'm like, that was insane. Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 9 (02:37:27):
It's funny. If it wasn't, if I wasn't like a
Phillies got Philly stander, I specific deaths I have to
root for. I would actually root for this team really hard. Yeah,
it's funny and mean, Jeff, I was down at the
sports book. They were fourteen to one to win the Pennant.
After these moves, I was putting in some other deaths
like New Orleans Saints thunders and stuff like that. But
and I and I and I got to that afterwards,
and by the time I did it. They went down
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at ten to one to win the Pennant and I passed.
But I actually really do like the Padres. I think
they're they can win that division. A lot of parody
and then I think that there certainly, God, they really
helped upgraded their hitting and obviously getting Miller in the
bullpen was massive. Yeah, they're gonna be tough. A lot
of teams, listen, for give these teams credit that went
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for it, that didn't just sit on their behinds and
it say, you know what, you know the old Herm
Edwards line, you play to win the game. And I
give a lot of these teams credit for really trying.
Speaker 2 (02:38:18):
Yeah, I'm with you, man, I I love what they did.
I think the NL is wild. All of those teams
are pretty even. They could all win Philly's, the Nets, Cubs, Brewers, Dodgers, Padres.
Speaker 9 (02:38:35):
And you know it's funny, Anthony, the Dodgers get this
like extra whatever cash. They're really not any better than
any of these teams at all. But again they get
this hype because it's the Dodgers, this, this and that.
But I absolutely think the I think all these teams
are right. I think they're all about even those six teams.
I agree, put a blanket over them. Who the heck
knows how it's gonna playoff, but I absolutely have those
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are the six teams.
Speaker 2 (02:38:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's pretty good, and it's pretty good.
H anything quickly, Uh, Jeff, nope, okay, thank you, buddy.
All right, last thing for me, brain any preseason anything
you like this coming week?
Speaker 9 (02:39:14):
No in the NFL, I have I gotta. I gotta
do that right now, not to do the season work
where I have to see who's playing and stuff like that. Anthy.
Until I see that I can't do that, I'll give
you a couple of those things, real, real quick. Baseball wise,
I'll let you run sometimes it's just that easy. Ante.
I took under seven in the Phillies game school against
Zach Wheeler. I don't need to analyze that.
Speaker 3 (02:39:35):
Yeah, I deal with it. We got like three seconds,
so we got we gotta go. We love it. Play
of the day, good.
Speaker 2 (02:39:44):
Gotcha, Jeff? What a pleasure, man? That was so much fun.
As always, Yes it was, buddy, have a good day.
We have a great one. Best of the family. All right, Uh, everybody,
thanks for hanging man. We love you guys. So much fun.
We'll be back next week. Have a great weekend. Fells
are out
Speaker 4 (02:40:03):
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