The Fellas With Anthony Gargano & Geoff Schwartz Talk Week 1 of NFL Matchups, Spitgate, Week 2 of the CFB Season, & MORE!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:04):
Good morning, good morning, good morning, happy happy Fox Football Saturday.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's right. We are the fellas.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Jeff Schwartz my new fella, I'm Anthony Gargana as we
hang out from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And isn't
it wonderful to have the NFL back. We've had two
fascinating games to start to season, just you know, wild weather, delays,

(00:33):
Lougi's all kinds of stuff last night. Good morning, Jeff,
how are you, my brother?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm good.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
I'm a little tired. I've had a couple of traveling days.
If I spit like on you do, I get tossed
for the show.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm out.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
I go back to right, right back to bed.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
You think I'm gonna let.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
You ruin the show like you used to ruin practice
by getting to a fight.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
I I never did that. Gotta fight to it thrown out.
But I mean, obviously that that's something that can happen
one a way to start the season. I mean, look,
you're an Eagles guy, I'm a chief Sky. So this
is a great couple of hours talk about those games. Obviously,
a big weekend in college football, as well, and I'm
well versus I will say this, I don't give myself
shout outs very often. There are not a lot of
people that can talk both college football and NFL and

(01:27):
do a good job at both like I am. I
am locked in on both. I'm excited to talk to
you about about all this stuff that we see in
the last couple of days, what we're gonna see today.
But I don't want to be a worry wart. Like
it's not fun to be a worry wart. And I'm
a Chiefs fan and in every year they said they'd
sort of do this where it's like, oh boy, there's

(01:49):
some issues. But I think there's some issues. I think
people if you're if you're wanting to be a Chief hater,
someone who thinks the Chiefs are done. Uh last night
was the Chargers are good. They played well. They're not
like zer Bow and not think they're not like I mean,

(02:10):
there's a team the Chiefs can can be competitive with it.
There's a lot there's a lot of red flags, Buddy.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, yeah, look, you know there if you think about it.
Their offense, the Chargers offense really moved when they needed
first downs, got them when they did yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's issue. That means my biggest way, Look, offensively, you're

(02:38):
gonna get Rice back. I thought the line held up.
You know there's gonna be like you should be okay, yeah, right,
Like offensively, I just just defense. And again you know
there's no one better at it than Spags, but they
just look again, it's I hate to I hate to

(02:59):
do this because you know, other than anybody, especially now,
September is a little bit of a glorified preseason that counts, except.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
The Chiefs did play their starters in the preseason like that.
That's the only like having on to that is they
actually do you try in the preseason. Look offensively, it
was ugly first half, but you have to sort of think,
I think where the Chiefs were at right, So ray
Sheet Rice and if you're Worthy, obviously we're big parts
of the training camp. I mean, they were supposed to

(03:28):
be whole this year. And then ray she Rice gets suspended,
which look, the Chiefs sort of knew that was coming
at some point. Correct, it wasn't gonna be a surprise, right,
it did happen, and then you know, Worthy gets hurt
on the first drive of the game, second play running
the Davis Kelly is gonna mess out, which again like
that that can happen, but something that you don't see
happen from a team like the Chiefs, like that kind.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Of just slide.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
It justesn't happened that way. So now you're down two
wide receivers. So basically, now Hollywood Brown becomes your one,
right Thornton becomes your two. I mean, those are guys
that are not ones and twos. And eventually they figured out,
like eventually, you know, second half it looked a lot
cleaner and whatnot. And you mentioned what the offensive line was,
basically starting two new guys right Kingsley Sue Matia left

(04:11):
guard he had played one game there last year, but
obviously not a full full deck last year of games,
and a new left tackle. Enough, the offense line was
like the John Taylor stuff with the penalty is certainly
not great. But I thought the offense line was fine.
It was fine. It wasn't It wasn't great, but not
a lot in my opinion to be worried about. Here's
the problem. So last year in the Super Bowl, we

(04:32):
know how well the Eagles offense played. The thing that
to me that was not talked about enough was how
poorly the Chiefs rushed the passer last year wau Jalen Hurts.
They did not touch Jalen Hurts. Now, the Eagles offense
line is really great. I get that, but you know
you gotta give a little bit. You're gonna play the Bills,
You're gonna play other teams that have good offensive lines.
So you have to hit the quarterback. It's part of

(04:53):
your job. As you can't.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
You have to.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
You have to get home with four because it's really
difficult to pressure all the time to create quarterback you know,
to create but basically to create quarterback pressures, Like I
wanna use pressure twice, but like that's what it is, right, Like,
you have to bring pressure on defense. If you do that,
you leave a lot of guys on islands and eventually,

(05:18):
over the course of sixty minutes, they get beat. What
you saw last night, and so it happened on the
final touchdown for the Chrugers. Right, the Chiefs pass rush
did not get better this offseason. It is a problem, dude,
I I it was to me. That was the biggest
thing I saw last night was the pass rush. And
there's no again, offensively, you get Rice back in Game

(05:39):
seven worthies injury. Imagine it's not out for the season.
He'll come back at some point. There's no reinforcements, and
your Eagles come to Kansas City, I believe next weekend.
If you're not going to hit the quarterback, what are
the Eagles going to do to you? Look, I there's

(06:00):
no there's but there's no readforce. There's no they're not
training for anyone. It's week one. Like, there's not a
bunch of street free agents hanging out waiting.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
The Eagles got their Eagles got the best pass rusher
out there.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
It's Darius Smith. Correct yesterday, That.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
To me feels like the biggest Glary weakness. To me,
it Look the Chargers. I know people will say, well,
you're not giving the Chargers credit. Look, the Chargers have
needed have wanted that Herbert game forever, like they've been
they've been this one. They've been waiting for this Herbert
game for years, right where he sort of closed out
a game, right, they've been waiting for that. It happened

(06:39):
the Chargers when there was thirteen thirteen. I thought like,
oh I got thirteen twelve. Another small thing like by
the way, like you chieve to keep this touchdown and
they missed extra point. You're like, what, well, look, what's
more demoralizing than that, buddy. But the Church's offensive line
is Joe Al's really good at left tackle, but it's
not it's not great off. It's a line like the

(07:01):
inside is not great. You have a backup right tackle.
So it's a it's a big concern to pass the
rest for the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
They need somebody off like Dan off the Edge's it's
just not you're you rely so heavily. The problem is
bags rely so heavily on Chris Jones, right, So it's
like wherever he's got it, it's why we'll move him
up and down to go try to find the pigeon right.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Well, and then last night he he goes he does
the wrong thing on the final play the game where
he breaks contained and uh he break contained Herbert break
containle But he ends up obviously, you know, creating an
issue by going inside when he should have so like
you did so, like, if you're gonna it's just to

(07:53):
me those are this just I saw last night?

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, but let me clos you real quick though, I mean,
let let me, let me caution because you're you're Chiefs fan,
and no do they get They do start slow, all right,
Like I've seen any of these teams start slow. He
we've I've had conversations with him about this, and it's
always about November and December. His team's always played better

(08:20):
in the in November December. And while they've played some
it's not like that they were finally tuned machine coming
into it. You know, you're you're only playing a handful
of of snaps.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
They just play.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
The Eagles just didn't play anybody, right, so they think
they saw a little bit of action. But I think
all around the league you're going to have a little
bit of a little bit of a preseason kind of thing,
like a week one thing where I don't think that
you can can freak out over over one week.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
And I'm not saying you're freaking out.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I'm just saying, well, I think you just gotta just
relaxes a little bit.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
So I understand what you're saying, and I do agree. Now,
the Chiefs historically have started fast, though Week one sometimes
has been a little ugly, but they played pretty well.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
In Septembers over the years.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
I've just given away and the just way Andy Well, yeah,
I mean the best teams obviously peaking in November December.
But the thing that that the thing that worries me
is the things that were bad last February, right against
the Eagles. Uh they I think I think offensively they're
gonna be fine, right and obviously we saw the Eagles

(09:35):
rush the passer. Well, I think they fixed like Josh
Emmons as a baller, he's still rookie left tackle, like
that they fixed that problem long term. I think Kingsley
Sue Matia will be fine at left guard. I think
that's if you're worthy and race she like like like
they're gonna be fine. On offense, Traviscous is not what
he used to be, but he's he's good enough for
what they need from him, right, Like this is very

(09:55):
last year, like we know those things. But a long
touchdown yesterday and and he he's fine.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
When he did right. Mahomes looks great, locked in mate,
it looks good too.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah. I feel like week one, you don't want to
see that from Mahomes, Like you'd rather not have to
have Hero Mahomes in week one, but so be it.
He was obviously on a mission last night to keep
up and make that game close and does not close
without him. But the pass orde like again, like it looked.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
No better than last February.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
And that I think is the concern, right is like
where does that get better? Like the offense, I agree
better November December gonna happen. I trust Andy Reid And
again like there were guys open early in the game,
but Mahomes is playing with guys that are now you know,
Thornton's a fourth or fifth string option who becomes number
two in the middle of a game in week one.

(10:42):
Like it's going to take time. You have said this
a lot, like Jujus Smith. Schuster said this a few
years ago. It's first stint with the Chiefs. It took
him about twelve weeks to feel comfortable with Mahomes in
the Chiefs offense. And then we saw ezebra Worthy last
year come on strong, and the year we saw race
Rights come on strong. That every work he sees like
it takes a little bit of time to figure out

(11:04):
how to play with Mahomes. There's just a lot of
moving parts and a lot of things that he wants
done a certain way, and like it just takes time
any reads I figure how to use you. So they're
gonna be final on offense, like they're gonna figure it
out that that that that I'm not concerned all about
the offense from last night.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I'm really not. Again.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
The concern for me is that defensively, you mentioned I
love spats. He does like the pressure. And when you
have pressure and it works, it works. Still it doesn't.
When you pressure you have you typically will play you
know man the way he pressures that zero pressure, you'll
play man behind it, right, And that means you have

(11:41):
to have guys that hold up a man coverage and.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
The goal, this is what the goal is.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
The goal is to is to have your guys get
home essentially right, get to the quarterback before the balls thrown.
That's simple, right, And they have corners and throat. I
think they can do that well. If you can't get
home and I give him play. We saw on on
that touchdown on the past by Herbert like that's the

(12:06):
plays over right.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
So.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
I it's it's hit or miss. It was I think
mostly hit on pressure yesterday. But the third and long
stuff was they were they got torsed on third and long,
which is not acceptable, and again give Herbert credit. Herbert
looked incredible. Look he like he's the story today.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
I think, you know, we're looking at it from a
chief angle, and we should and we will.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
But I think Herbert's the story. I tell you.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
I listen, I remember so Steve, and you know Steve's
wont did you play for him? Play when when he
when he was were the Giants when he was there?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
No?

Speaker 4 (12:47):
No, yes, yeah the super Bowl? No no, no, I didn't
want super Bowl. But he came back in fourteen or
I think it was fright, I came back. I think
I was on one of those. I was thinking I
was on one of those teams. I was there. I
was taking which one I was on. I was there
for one year when I was there.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yes, So if you remember his super Bowl year, I'll
never forget talk. We're very close because he was you know,
he's with the Eagles, and he and I became very
very close. Like my kids call him Uncle Spags, right,
So you know that's kind of where it is.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
So I told to him yesterday morning.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
We were texting about it right about the This was
before the game. He his defenses usually started out slow too.
I'll never forget that here. He was like desponded because
the Cowboys put up thirty on them. And I don't

(13:46):
know it was washing there was another division. It wasn't
the Eagles. Was somebody else put up a big number.
I think it was the Packers put up a big number,
like like ridiculous, like sports sports. His defenses, and it's
kind of indicative because and you're right, like he does
he lives by the blitz. I mean, that's it's his
whole thing. But he's usually those defenses by the time

(14:10):
they get it because you're so much responsibility on the
defensive backs because he uses them a lot and to blitz,
and he puts him out on an island like you said,
So it's sometimes it takes a minute for all. Like
like honestly, I'm not worried a little bit on the Chiefs,
like I'm not. I think the story is Herbert and

(14:34):
Quentin Johnston. Here's a kid who couldn't hold all of
the football, right, like you.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Drop one in the end zone too before he yeah right,
but I mean he had he had a game thirty
five to one to score two touchdowns. By the way,
was Johnson, Oh my god, are you serious. Yeah, thirty five,
thirty five to one, So wow. I am a Herbert
guy who went to Oregon. I went to Oregon, and

(15:00):
I when he was during the draft process, I thought
some of the criticues of him were kind of silly.
And he's had a good chart to his career, obviously,
and sometimes you just need that coach right to get
the most out of you. And in last year we
saw some glimpses of the most getting out of him,
but you know, it wasn't I think there was still
room for growth that we think we saw last night.

(15:22):
What I liked last night is the it's essentially like
the confidence and just sort of taking over that game
because Mahomes was doing Mahomes things like that that can
be intimidating. You're like, oh boy, here, here we go again.
And the Chargers, obviously a Charger very often, as we
know right there, they were ended up making errors and

(15:43):
stuff that they kind of lose them the game. And
he just took command of the game. Man his ability
to run the football, to kind of control the pocket.
Again on the touchdown the go ahead, that was a
pressure that was a one guy free. He bought tom,
He bought time he backed up, be backed up. He
found Johnson like he was able to manipulate the pocket

(16:04):
really well last night. It was just a very clean
game from him week one. And I think if you're
a Chargers fan hard by year two and you upgraded
some of the weapons and you hope that Johnson and
Trey Harris and some of these young guys are able
to play well, it just felt like a very whole
game from Herbert and a confidence level that we had
not seen before from him, in my opinion, any game

(16:26):
of this magnitude r I mean, there's always talk like, dude,
yes he's big games. Yes, I think he did a
good job in a big game. He's got a new
girlfriend now, so maybe that I could look up his girlfriend.
I had no idea, and then maybe that you know,
some some confidence in that now, Like I don't know, man,
he seems to be a different dude in week one.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, because I say one thing, you know, because I'm
a Herbert fan and I.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Love her, right, I said to everyone he'd be good.
So I'm on the right side of history.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Here, yeah, I mean, and you and I see it's
the same exact way, right.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I love the kid. I mean be honest with you.
You go to the di the Q lab right here,
Herbert's is what comes out of it? Oh you know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Size, arm, arm, talent, athleticism, I mean you know, I mean,
the kids got everything. It's why I don't understand. For
some reason, there's a lot of vitriol right on him
to him. But well, and I keep saying, I keep
going back to the coaching, right like like he had

(17:29):
a historically bad coach. All right, last year a great
coach comes in, but you got to give the guy
a minute to build it. He has one receiver, I
mean last year, one receiver. We talked about all the
drops to Quentin Johnson. It was a joke, right like
pizza board hands. He dropped everything. And somehow it's on

(17:52):
Herbert when you know they had a respectable year. Harball
is a great coach, Like, I don't understand what's not
to like about the Chargers And what's why people just
don't like Herbert?

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Well, I think people.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Genuinely have a problem with saying someone is the next
like the next good thing, the next great thing. Uh,
and then they just judge that player based on playoff
wins solely and he has not you know, he hasn't
put up that that success yet. But yeah, I mean
his arm talent has always been there, his ability to
use his legs has always been there. And now year

(18:31):
two in this offense, it feels like yesterday just a
little more under control with what he was trying to
do each and every past Now he does tell the ball,
I think, just he needs to put a little and
enter the ball and some of deep passes.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
But so be it.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
But I think people just have a problem with when
guys like haven't proved it yet and get the like
can't miss prospect type of thing, right, And that's what
we've seen with Herbert, where people talk about Herbert without
the playoff wins, and people for some reason get really
frustrated about that. Again, I don't get it. You can
separate the two, I think and say Herbert is very talented,

(19:04):
but still they're missing a little bit of of those
big moments. But not yesterday, yesterday, yesterday, But.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Were you're greeting Herbert? You know?

Speaker 3 (19:12):
And and I get there's been a couple of games
where he's come up small. But doesn't the coach have
to be a part of the equation. Well, stale come on.
Of course, of course it does.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
And I don't think we You know, one thing I
like about about I think the modern football discourse a
little bit more than maybe when I was playing, and
really the early stage I think of, like social media
whatnot is we do at least now I think discuss
situation way more than ever before. And situation includes obviously coaching, right, ownership,

(19:47):
personal around you, where I felt that just wasn't the
case for a while, like when I was coming up
and to like no one talked about no one talked
about that, and now we do. I think it's important
because we're learning, at least I'm learning that situation might
matter more than anything.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Right.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Your talent level is your talent level, and if you're
not in the right situation, you're just not gonna have
a good career, a good season. And Brandon Staley was
not a good coach right as a head coach and
hardball we know because he did it at San Diego, Stanford,
in San Francisco and Michigan. I was standing coach. I

(20:24):
was standing coach, and I think I don't think I
know in year two now in this offense, they're going
to have a better year offensively, and we have to
just maybe hold off what some of the Herbert takes
and just see how well he plays this season.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, yeah, yes.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
All right, Well we're continue this because it's the weirdest store.
I don't know, it's the weirdest debate. I get it
all the time. Like last night or yesterday during my
local show, to the listeners are going, here, you go,
we're your favorite team tonight. I'm like, what do you mean?
I go just because I think Rboll's a good coach

(21:05):
and I think Herbert's a really good quarterback.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Not my team. I'm just looking at from a football standpoint,
all right.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Anyway, it was funny they were busting my chops. We'll
get into it all little so much to discuss the
first two games of the NFL season. It just feels
so big, it feels so eptic, epic. It's why it's wild.
We'll get into everything. College.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
We have to talk about College Week one. You and I.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
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Speaker 3 (22:26):
All right, welcome back Fellas, Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargano and
Wild first two games of the season. First of all,
just the bigness of it, like singular games Thursday night
to start the season on Peacock. Last night on YouTube?

(22:48):
What did you think of the of the debut YouTube presentation?

Speaker 4 (22:53):
So I don't listen to a ton of game with
the volume on. I don't know why, I just don't.
I don't really somebody. Actually, I actually like a lot
of the announcers. The announcer I just.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
The first half.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
My daughter we were in our TV. My daughter was
watching Despicable Me Too, so who had the volume on that?
And I was listening to had the Chiefs game on
mute okay, and I didn't really hear anything, and I
saw people complaining about stuff of the.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Internet, as they usually do because people are losers.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
And I then put the volume on the second half
when you went to bed, and I thought it was fine.
I like rich Eison, I liked I like Warner, I mean,
Warners sometimes is super hard on my homes. I think
some of these guys don't like his play style, like
eight minutes sort of been that way over the years,
except like really hard on my homes. And you're like, oh,
I don't know sure, but I like those guys. I'm

(23:46):
gonna be the old guy here. Man, I'm thirty nine.
You could skip me with the YouTube stars. I don't
I don't care. I mean, I like, I just there
was most of the guys like god Slid like, hey, guys,
these guys are big. They're big, I know, and now
I know. There was some six seven joke that I
guess the kids used that slang. I don't care. It's

(24:07):
eleven thirty at night. Man, who's watching this game? Think
about the kids right now, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
I like, I'm like, I just you didn't see the
pregame show.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
So my circle of friends in this game, I didn't
see it either, right, but my circle of friends were,
they were free. I'm going to text chain and they're
freaking out. I had I had a baseball game last night.
We had football practice because we have a game today,
and then we had for my son, and then we
had baseball, and so I didn't see it, right, So

(24:39):
I was watching the game on my phone and the
dugout the uh.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
I'm gonna be there today a softball practice. Maybe I'll
be watching Organ Oklahoma State on.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
My phone exactly.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
I told my daughter, I'm like, Emmy, we might have
to leave like ten minutes early because Organ place, And
of course the game I want to watch is at
three thirty Eastern today, but softball practice, of course it
could be all day, right, but two to three thirty.
And she's like, Dad, just watching your phone, Okay, all right,
you've gotten me there. I'll watch my phone. So like
I I'm I get it, man, it's it's it's sports

(25:11):
dad life.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
But they were freaking out about, you know, about the
pregame show and how yeah, how bad it was and
all the YouTube stars. But that is a generational thing, right,
like you know, like we're being older, like you go, eh,
you know, like I didn't know, you know, I didn't

(25:32):
get God got so I am Speed, who's a YouTube star?
Was at Eagles practice last week and.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
It was like a for your kids, are you like
the cool dad you autograph? No?

Speaker 3 (25:44):
I didn't. I I should have, but I didn't. I didn't.
I mean, like full disclosure. I'm like, whatever, you I
am the old guy. I go, I don't I know
who he was, right, I'm like, I am Speed? And
I asked Big Tom and I go, dude, Who's who's that?

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Anyways?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Because some YouTube kid I don't know, like to like
what do I what don't we know? Right?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Like what our kids?

Speaker 3 (26:09):
My kids go? Oh man, I am Speed? Yeah yeah bro,
thirty million followers.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
So I was again. I was watching a game in
the room with my with my daughter, and they they
rolled I don't watch pregame shows anyway, So I put
the game on right eight o'clock, right, and they did
that whole YouTube. They did the whole pregame like welcome
to the show type of you know, and a bunch
of YouTube stars were in there, and my daughter rattled
off every single one of them. Oh look it's it's
so and so.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Oh my, oh look it's that. It's that girl. What's
your name? Dad?

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Like, oh look it's so and So. She was, Oh,
mister bast, I do know who mister Beast is? Like yeah,
like dude, she was fired up about it, like she
was so Like but again, my nine year old daughter,
I don't think it's the demo for NFL uh. I
think it's me and you is what they're trying to
do and have us. We're the ones who are going

(26:57):
to watch and pay the bills and whatnot. Obviously not again,
I don't, you know, sometimes not always geared for us.
But again, I I listened to games on mute, so
it really bothered me.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
I like hich Eyes and I like Warner. I got
I got a flashbacks for Fine. You know what's nuts
is I had a flashback because so the Fella is
the show that we're we have began with with myself
and Lincoln Kennedy, right, so Big Link, who I to
this day love him to death.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
And it's funny that you're Oregon and he's Washington. Yeah,
I know it's no one makes silk. Not everyone can
be a perfect I like Lincoln. Sometimes you make mistakes
in life. What do you do?

Speaker 2 (27:41):
So Big look? I love him, right, I love him? Yeah,
I love him. Dear, dear, dear friend is my brother.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
And uh, we we used to talk about the watching game,
like I love to watch games and listen to the announcer.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
I'm a big announcer guy. But he would watch it
on mute. Baseball, yes, for me, announcers love them right.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Well, Link would watch football on mute and he would
have like a jazz on or whatever, but he would
watch it on mute. And when you said that, I
just gave me a flashback. Uh, and I I guess
it's because you guys are so used to watching film.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Well, it's mostly because I'm watching a ton of games
at the same time, like on Sundays, right, Like I
got so many games on. Actually, just what I typically
do is have the red Zone channel as the one
with the volume. It's like I turn my eyes to
the red zone channel if I want to watch an
important play and actually actually like announcer. I defend them
all the time. I think that when people hate on

(28:43):
Chris Collins Orthotroke, but it's kind of silly. I think
they're very good at their jobs, right, I just don't
need to hear what they say personally. I again, like
I I don't know, man, maybe because I'm listening, got
my head sitting on talking to you for four hours,
I'm I watch them. I'm gonna have the volume maybe
on for like the organ game. Like like, I don't.
I don't feel like I need to hear everyone talk

(29:03):
about the game. I'm fine just sort of sitting in
my own space thinking about the game. But yeah, I
don't listen to a jazz though. I mean, that's impressive
by by Lincoln to do that, but I I know,
I just watch the game.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I don't. I don't need the announcers.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
But again, I thought the graphics were fine, Like, I mean,
most of it was fine, but it's not for the
broadcast is not really for me, And the things that
were not football related were not for me and you.
They're for an audience. They were hoping to grab on
YouTube and obviously.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
By the way, smart like as much as I go, Yeah,
what do I care about a bunch of YouTube stars? Right,
But that's brilliant in that you are. You're trying to
get our kids right and truth it better is my
two boys are football players, but they don't watch football
the way I used to watch football as a kid.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
We have so many options now. That's why we had
the TV. Was like my parents put on the game.
That's what we're watching. Now they can just unfortunately they
could just go grab their iPhones or whatever. They can.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
They have o the choices when it comes to what
to watch. Yes, there's so much competition for it.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
So from an NFL standpoint, it's smart to you that
we're gonna watch no matter what.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Right, So they got us so they.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Can dress it up and put halftime shows and sambas
and YouTube stars and we may grouse, but we're not
going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
We're watching like we're this is what we love.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
They got us from those They got me. I'm you
know what, fine, NFL, I'll watch all the games. Why not?

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Got me?

Speaker 4 (30:32):
I'll watch all the football.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
That's it. That's it, That's exactly it. Anyway they were.
But my friends were freaking out because they're you know,
they're old school.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
I was, I guess, want football, Why do you have
all those stuff?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
But you know, can I imagine it?

Speaker 4 (30:51):
So it's because my dad never really cribs about the
pregame shows. He's just sort of like, you know, all
the channels to watch football. Sometimes he's like, this is
a lot for me, though, I figure out where football
is that I get, like last night, he's here in Charlotte,
you know, I'm like, okay, well, here we go. Let's
let's I gotta find the YouTube app on the TV
and we got to log in. Like I I get
that being a frustration when obviously you should just be

(31:12):
on four channels and there were you know, over the
air channels and very easy to watch football. I get
that gripe about football now where it's just it's hard
to find sometimes and and I get why they Again,
we all agree the NFL branching out is really good.
I think the international series is. Uh. If the footing
in the field was good, which I think we saw
last night, was fine, I think it's a really good idea, right.
I think the branch outs great. I think all those

(31:33):
things are great. You know, access to the games is
a little tougher to find. But being upset about pregame shows,
I mean, that's that's kind of silly. Just just don't
watch it. I don't watch it on pre game shows.
I I'll pick. Yeah, look we I watched. I made
sure last weekend to watch Leek courso, right, I think
we all did h at the very end.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Which is beautiful.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Yeah, you know, I'm I watched Big New Kickoff because
I do a podcast with with with Chris Filik. I
want to support him on that. But I you know,
this morning, like I'm when we're done with the show
at nine, I'm I have things to do. I watch
the pre game show all day.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
And so I just my personal life. I don't watch
a ton of pregame shows. I won't watch a ton
on side, I'm working tomorrow on the ten to one
on kind kickoff right here with with Brian and Crack.
So I just don't watch a ton of pre game shows.
It's not something that that I obsess over and get
all angry about.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Right, No, No, And you know, listen, they're they're football
fans and they're old schools. So they get a little
crazy about it. But you know, it's my only issue
with just streaming is that when you're streaming a game,
it's hard to go.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
It's hard to go.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
You got to get out of it to get back
to your other channel.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Yeah, you can't change the channel, and then you know
you for me, like just live wager is like as
possible because you're you're play behind. You know, it's always
a you know, it's forty seconds to fifty seconds behind
or maybe a minute behind. You can't live wager really
because the number is you're getting you don't know.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Well, you're probably watching on your phone too, like when
you're on the Devari iPad.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
This one I was watching, well, I was I'd just
watch on my roko. I was just watching them when you're.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Live betting, like you're keeping an eye on the game
on your phone or.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
It depends what it depends like what I'm using. But yeah,
it's so it's it's a little difficult to live wager.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
But again I'm just what you're seeing.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
What you're seeing, and you know, you could you could
see the play beforehand, so if you want to, you know,
if you want to travel.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
So it is what it is, and.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
As we work together more and more, you'll understand the
levels to to that. I'm already firing a touchdown prop
this morning for the Organ game winner today. So I'm nice.
I'm ready to go, Buddy.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
I like it. I like it. Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Uh, lots to do, we got it still, go over
lots of questions from Thursday night, Eagles, Cowboys Wild round off. Yeah,
so we got lots to get to and we're not
done with the Chiefs and Chargers.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
We'll take a look at the entire league.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Everything is happening, look at the games on Sunday, the
college games today. Lots to do, fellas Jeff Schwartz, Anthony
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All right, what did you make of Thursday? Now let's

(34:49):
look at big picture before we get to the loogie
and you know how the game started. But let's just
go big picture because I'm sure we'll lead with it
next hour and continue the conversation and uh general thoughts
on it.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
So so interesting.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
So I'm yeah, I uh, I go to New York
on Wednesdays and Thursdays. It was flying gonna fly home
last night and my flight ended up getting basically banged
till till yesterday, just you know, the weather. It was
got Philly eventually. But I'm saying, at hotime, I'm watching
the game, and you know, I'm a little little bit
stuck at Philly.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
No, I stuck it.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
I was in Newark, dude. I'm I'm an hour and
a half or two hours from not even from.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
My I mean, I just I just you let me know,
all right, I'm watching, but I'm watching. I'm watching the
game and at the U and the first half was great,
you know, it was high scoring, like super into it.
I had Cowboys plus eight a little bit. So I'm like,
you know, it's going a well, like we're doing a
good job. And then the rain delay comes and I
went to bed. I'm like, I just I got to

(35:51):
wake up at four o'clock in the morning. I'm I'm
going to bed, and I woke up in the morning
and checked the score. I'm like, oh, twenty four to
twenty did they suspend the game? Like did it right?
Just like nothing happened for it. And then I looked
at the box scored it was like punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt.
And Collinsworth mentioned this as they were going into the

(36:11):
long rain delay. Is that I've been in this situation
the preseason, not really in the regular season. We're like,
you have a rain delay, man, like that your body
just like shuts down, like like you you you went
through halftime already, came back out. And I'm not surprised
that the back half of the game was ugly for
and half of the game was really good. And I

(36:31):
think my takeaways are a couple things here. One is, look,
we'll do Eagles first. Okay, this is what they are,
Like I don't it's exactly. The Eagles are great. Offensive line,
Jalen Hurts is good, good run game, good weapons. Like defensively,

(36:53):
we knew some issues they were gonna have, which is
basically they don't have an edge rush. At the moment,
they trusted edge rush right, and there's some new pieces
in the secondary, and you have to choose at certain
times to go, you know, to go all in on offense.
Mostly it's most of the time you choose one side
of the ball. We'll go all in offense. Okay, we
got to be a young on defense, and we saw
last season the way Vick Fanjo was able to get

(37:14):
that defense playing at a very high level when it
mattered most. I'm just unconcerned about about the Eagles this year.
I'm just I'm notock conturned about at all. The interesting
part of the Cowboys because look, when Dak Prescott has played,
they've been pretty good over the years. They won a
ton of football when he's been healthy. I was just
really pleasantly surprised at the Cowboys. You got the Micah

(37:36):
Parsons issue, where you trade away one of the core
players of your team as one who's an elite player,
and a team could go in the tank when that happens,
and then we didn't see that at all from the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
No, they can't rush the passer.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
It's a huge problem, but obviously trade parts away. But
I was just very impressed with Dak. Dak was really
good he was very under control. He knew where to
go with the ball. Ceedee, Lamb just screwed him all night.
Lamb just catch a couple of passes. Ferguson dropped the
touchdown pass and when he got in then and wait, look, Anthony,
I just if you're the NFL, I get I get

(38:09):
the protection of the players with the head injuries. But
what is the defender supposed to do? What is supposed
to do, like let him catch the football? I feel
like we need to use a little discretion when it comes.
We've watched the football, the NFL is watching the football.
Blaken Ship hit Ferguson, he got got you, got it,
got you penalized for that?

Speaker 2 (38:30):
What's he supposed to do?

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Man?

Speaker 4 (38:32):
Let him catch the football?

Speaker 2 (38:33):
I don't know what the how is it?

Speaker 3 (38:35):
And by that point right like he's already in the
air going towards him like and you can see he's
trying to pull up a little bit to not making
a direct headshot.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
And Ferguson dropped the pass and dropped the past. He
fell down like he went down, got hit in the head.
So I think the Cowboys offensively, man, I was a
little concerned about some of the offensive line, you know,
just like the injuries they've had and whatnot. I was,
I came away, I can't wait, Maybe more impressed with
the Cowboys offense than anything else I saw in the game.
And Williams look decent too. Yeah, he looked like he

(39:08):
looked refreshed. You look renewed. I was highly pressed with
with with Dallas in this game.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
And look, you could see the difference that Pickens is
going to make.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
So you know, Interpid is a weapon, you know, like
Turpin's a guy that you know you could use that
will give you a good speed And they I thought
they I thought, I'll be honest with you, I thought
Shot Loomber called a great game.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
I thought for play calling was really good. And I'm
with you. I you know, if not for the drops,
it had.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Certainly been a different you know, it would have been
a more stressful game if they were if not, you know,
winning outright, making it more stressful for the Eagles if
nothing came out right.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
I thought the Cowboys really showed themselves. And we'll talk
about Eagles here, I imagine in just a minute or two,
I want to talk about Jahen Carter, because that that's
disrespectful bro.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, yeah, there's a backstory there. What the backstory is?

Speaker 3 (40:08):
You're right listen, you know, listen, it's the lowest thing
you could do, right, it's uh, it's a fight.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Right. The minute you do that, you're gonna fight.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
We'll talk about it, Fellas on Fox's Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Well, good morning, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
That's us, Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargado Fellas another iteration. Really
looking forward to it. A lot of fun hanging out
with Jeff. We'll have a well, you know, you can
only imagine, we'll dive into college, We'll dive into NFL. Uh,
you know, last hour and probably throughout the show. Well,
look at your betting standpoint, because Jeff w like to

(40:54):
he'll give you some winners. We have our Manda brain,
uh in the our last hour every week to kind
of look at the card on the weekend. And so
you know, we're gonna go in and out of it
and we love it. So we know that you do.
And we're gonna celebrate it together. Celebrated great football season.

(41:15):
We're talking about what happened Thursday and Friday night and
Thursday night it all began with an awful injury on
the opening kickoff to Ben Van sumer And who had
a torptel attendant. While he lay there, there was an
incident and obviously Jalen Carter, the whole world saw it.

(41:37):
It was a Seinfeld episode that played out, and the
whole world saw the loogie and you know right away
he was flagged and ejected from the game. It came
out earlier that Dak had spa first in his direction. Jeff,

(41:59):
I will tell you about Carter just to set the stage.
Jaleen is one of these kids that you know had
a very, very difficult childhood. And I'm sure you played
with these kids a lot of guys. You have certain guys,
particularly on defense, that are just ferocious, come from a

(42:19):
messed up childhood and they carry.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Demons with them, right, and.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
They become a little on hitche It's which makes them,
particularly on defense, where it's such a reactionary thing, it
makes them ferocious. It makes them such a it makes
them a great player. Like, let's face it, you play
football at the highest level, Jeff, you're sometimes not all
there right, like sometimes you need to be in another place.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Now, Carter is one of.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
These dudes that is a little paranoid, Like if you
walk into a room and he sees people laughing, he
may feel their laughing at him, and then he could
then you better run, because if he gives you a
grin with the empty eyes behind it, you kind of
better run.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
And I think Dak.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Spit over the over his lineman kind of in his direction,
and then the carter came up to him and was
like you spin it made like what are you doing?
And then Dak is like laughing, and then then he
starts to egg him on, like what do you mean?
Like you know, and then the kid loses it.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
So there's a couple like, to me, non negotiables that
are not allowed on a football field, right. I think
that hitting someone in the groin is a non We're
not doing that, okay, people in the groin, all right?
On purpose? Of course I'm talking about. The other one

(43:55):
is spinning. It's vile, like it's it's fat, you're spinning
on it like it's just grows. You know, it's gross
disrespect all those things, right, And so I certainly sympathize
that a player might have had a tough upbringing, but
that doesn't excuse them for those Now I know you're
talking about that just as emotional makeup, right, but it's.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Not right, like there's no isshoes and all that. I'm
just giving you the back. I don't understand.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
And look, and there were and this has looked that
it's a very difficult discussion because people do not like
it during draft season when we when play when when
scouts talk about character concerns, Okay, it's things they hear
about players from teams or there are oftentimes when obviously
it comes from you know, the college. Okay, And there

(44:42):
were character concerns about Jalen Carter, and there were other
incidents you know, at Georgia and whatnot. So this is
what sort of people are talking about. It's this type
of stuff. Now, of course it's mostly been corralled, mostly
not been a problem in the NFL. But a you
can't been on players too. You can't do in the
first play of the game in front of the officials,

(45:03):
like the time everything was stopped, like everyone's looking at
you too, both of you guys talking to each other
in the middle of the of the huddle, really in
the front of the huddle before the first play of
the game, the referee staring right at you, buddy, the
entire time.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
What are we doing?

Speaker 4 (45:18):
So he to me, that's automatical. I mean, I'm glad
he got ejected. I know it's not in the rule
book per se, but get out of here, like he
should be ejected for that, I'm fine with that. With
that ejection, I'm not sure he should be suspended. It's
not really suspendable offense, even though the NFL might look
at a little harsher because of the situation when it happened,

(45:39):
which essentially was the first play of the first game
of the season, that the whole world correct so that
there might he might be spent. I don't think he does.
To be honest with you, I don't think he get suspended.
When I was playing in college, We're playing USC and
uh a player spent on me. Really and there, yes,

(46:00):
So now, to be fair, you know, we we we
we hit him. It wasn't dirty, it was in the
middle of the play, but it was a it was
a I get why he was angry with us. I'll
put it like that, like we we we got him good. Okay,
look legal, nothing in the groin, nothing late, all legal,
all legal, buddy, But we got him good.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
I understand why he was angry with us.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
I'll put it like that, okay, but all legal, okay,
spin in my face. And he made he actually made
the NFL. And we we had a thing going for
years every time we played each other, like we knew
exactly what happened. He would admit it. Either there was
a time when he wouldn't admit it. Eventually he admitted it.
I threw a friend, I knew him, we called him
long whatever matter, he admitted, he admitted he did it.
But man like, that's just like, it's just disrespectful, man

(46:47):
like you, even though this game is played by violent
individuals or guys who have to be violent, right, and
it's very physical. And one thing is so noticeable the
first couple of NFL games compared to college football, just.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
The violence, man Like, the hits are just.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Like you're like, you miss it, right, even you even
seen since February and you've been watching college ball preseason football,
and you see week one and you're like, oh, boy,
is your hit right? It's a lot. It's much of
a sport there still has a mutual respect to the
players and mutual respecting the other coaches and spinning on
someone just sort of breaks that code, right, and you

(47:21):
just you can't you can't do it. It's one thing
that we, you know, universally players agree upon is that
that is something that you should be check out of
a game for. And he essentially I was suspended a
whole game. He didn't play, you know, he didn't play
the entire entire game. So I think it was right
to throw him out. I hope, I hope he learned
a lesson. I don't think you should be suspended. And

(47:42):
we'll see if he plays against UH, against the Chiefs
this weekend. It's a lesson to learn. You just can't
do it. You just can't do it, man, you just
can't do it. And the Eagles missed him because as
soon as he went out and that defense opened a
way up.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yeah, well you're everything he's built around him. You know.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
We talked about UH the Chiefs and what happened during
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Well it's because Carter.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Carter was the most impactful player on the field and
didn't have a tackle.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
The Chiefs had to double.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Him and triple him at times, and that allowed for
Josh Sweat to have one on one. He had a
big day with a couple of sacks it allowed for
you know, it's it's gonna allowed. When you collapse the middle,
you know better than anybody, you're gonna have opportunities on
the edge.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
And the Eagles don't have a deep edge.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
It's why they signed Zadarius Smith yesterday to add to
their edge.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Rush.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Uh, when you look at what Carter means in the
middle of that thing, he's just of De's of beasts.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
You can't it's it's it's one of those guys where
it's just like it's so hard to block him. He's
just so big and strong, and it's it's hard, it's
hard to put into words. These guys man there, they're
just like there's so much bigger and stronger than ever before.
And he's of those guys. And the way, so the

(49:02):
way defense is a little get in the weeds now.
So like when I, again I'm not that old, but
when I when I was in the NFL, you sort
of just rushed over the guy you played against all game, right,
You just that's where it's where you rushed and you
worked one on one and you had battles all game.
And it was obviously it was obviously a lot of
four on five, right, and maybe you bring an extra guy,

(49:23):
but you run twist games all that stuff. Now nowadays,
with the way defenses are designed pass rush wise, it's
really one on ones all over the board, right, they're
bringing five guys, they're lining, they're moving guys up to
find the best matchups all the time. And that just
makes it even tougher to to basically guard a guy

(49:44):
like Jalen Carter because he can play over multitude of
guy center guards. I'm sure if you put him at
tackle you can do the same I mean, defensive end,
you can do the same thing. And there's just no way.
And then you of course, because where linebackers line up
and because of the schemes, you get a lot of
one on once and so he's nearly impossible to walk

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one on one dude. He's the type of player and
so that's what makes him so valuable. And when you
lose a guy like that, you just your defense is
kind of cooked. And again, I though the Cowboys had
a really good play in too that was important. The
Cowboys played well, that's that's important to note here.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
But Carter eying the thing that was interesting, and Dak
said it after the game. He's like, listen, when we
scrapped everything once Carter got kicked out of the game.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
Oh yeah, I would too.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
I mean, I mean, let's face that, they had a
rookie guard, so you were going to have to account
for Carter and help, and they didn't have to do that.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
And and Booker played well their guard as well, the
rookie who we knew, I mean the Cowboys. Look, I'll
tell you about the cowboy.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Three Tyler's on the offensive line three times?

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Yeah, no two three y yes, sure, yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah yeah, Tyler Guy, Tyler Smith, Tyler Booker. That's funny.
I actually think about that. They they the Cowboys thing.
They have done best Oner Jerry Jones, not really best.
I mean obviously one one years ago. The last ten years, dude,

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they hit home runs with every first round offensive line
when they draft the guys are these guys are very
very good. So, I mean, Booker will be good eventually,
and he played really well and so so my takeaway
from from that early game was, I think the Eagles
looked like they should offensively. They're gonna be good on offense.
I thought, you know, Steam came in there immediately right

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guard looked like he belonged. He had a great block
on one of the early sake one bark the touchdown runs.
One thing I love to do is we got gambling,
is uh? I love taking the Eagles back up, running
back over, rushing yards. I did it with I did
it with with centers every game last year. Shipley immediately
went went over. He had like a twenty yard run

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early in the game.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Like that.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Those Eagles, just the way they run the football, the backups,
you get a ton of carries. Hurts looked under control.
He looked in command. He looked like he should so. Offensively,
A just just checked the box for me. And defensively again,
I think the concern is young in the secondary. Adorri
Jackson got cooked and the edge rush is a concern

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as of now.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
So let's go let's go offfense for a second. Let's
go Jalen right because right away I heard people taking
shots all the number and put his numbers up. And
I keep saying, you know, when you're judging Jalen Hurts,

(52:38):
you got to judge him as a point guard, like
he's never going to have numbers the way you think
three hundred yard numbers my Holmes type of numbers.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
That's not what he does. Like, he's not going to
give you those numbers.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
But he's going to win, like he's gonna he's gonna
break your back and run for two touchdowns like he did.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Right, He's not going to force the football like I was.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Uh, you know, Baldy and I do a thing together,
and you know, he had just it was yesterday morning.
He had spent all morning go through the all twenty
two and he's like, yeah, it was like Jalen missed
a couple of blitz opportunities.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
To AJ because AJ.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Brown got zero target at one target at the end
of the game, and so there was a big thing, Wow, alcohol.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
He's not getting the ball, blah blah blah. You know.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
You saw because you can actually see him go through
his progressives a couple of times where he's looking, he's
trying to get to AJ.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
He wants to go to AJ, but he doesn't let
it go.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
And Baldy's point was, there was a couple opportunities where
you had to you had to see it and you
had to let it go quick.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
And that's not Jalen's not Jale's not going to do that.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
But what he is going to do is he's going
to hurt you, right, Like he'll hurt you with his legs.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Uh Like.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
I just thought he played a really good for a
really good game.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
So so in interesting. So we talked about Herbert earlier,
right in discussion about Herbert and and sort of hurts.
And this is where I think it's really interesting about
quarterbacks because there's basically multiple ways to evaluate the guys, right,
and one of them is, you know, we look at
the difference between let's say, arm talent and physical gifts
throwing the football, and then just sort of what Jalen

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hurts to me is that he means a point guard
right playmaker. You look at Herbert, you're like, dude, A
plus everything right, arm, size, processing, all the stuff, you know.
But but but the Super Bowl wins are not there,
the playoffinds are not there. Then you look at Jalen
and you say, you know, again, if you rank him
as a passer, he's not on the top ten in
the NFL, right, But but as a point guard, as

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a as a runner of the offense, he's an A. Right,
He's an A. He's obviously an A. Look at the
way he plays in games and even Super Bowl he lost,
He'd do for three fifty.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
He was a great super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
And so that's difficult that that's the hard part about
this evaluation is that I don't I think if you
were starting a team and you are drafting quarterbacks, now,
I don't think Herts is like in the it's in
the top ten.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
If you're going to draft quarterbacks you're talking about yeah,
just like you're just drafted.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Like if you if you're starting the franchise today, right
and you're drafting quarterbacks Mahomes, Allen Jackson, Burrow, Daniels, maybe
not Stafford anymore, but you know, you know, is in
the top ten.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
I think if you just those no, no, I think
like you rattle off that that five and yeah, like
you're right, people would because you're still going to draft
off of well, Herbert's size arm.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
Yeah, you have group, you would have Herbert in the
group ahead, right, like you.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Know obviously Jane Daniels, is you know, ridiculous and then
and then the elites, right yeah, Mahomes Right.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
So my point is, and I think more than what
we have a hard time with the evaluation when it
comes to a quarterback who is just not as as
great of a thrower of the football as other quarterbacks are.
And we have a problem in I think with the

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football media and culture of just this game manager, a
tag that we give quarterbacks because that's what you're supposed
to do.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
You'reposed to manage game.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
And I gotta argue the like the throw thing too,
because he throws a great Jalen Hurts throws a great
deep ball.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Yeah, great deal.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Like come on the other night, dead deep ball to
Jahan Dotson was just a bucket throw. I've seen it
one hundred times and make that throw. He'll make that
throw outside the numbers all day long.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
But I think that you mentioned the point like it's
some he just to be. I think the quarterback in
the top top tier of guys, he still misses opportunities
other guys don't miss. And because of the offense they run,
it is a more quarterback friendly offense because the offensive

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line is so good. And again that doesn't mean again,
that doesn't mean it's bad. I think people game manager bad. No, no, no,
that mean bad. It just means that you have to
evaluate him in context of what he's working with and
the plays that he makes. And look to be fair.
He he knows I can throw the ball away, I

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can run for eight yards on third down and punt
the ball. My defense will take care of men. I
can get to fourth and two and we'll go for it.
He has these advantages built in that allow him to
maybe play a different style. If he's on a different team,
maybe he plays different stylid football as well.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
So all fair Hurts.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
You can't argue that Hurts.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
Makes winning plays, and that's what you want from that position.
You want a guy to make winning plays. And he
is a winning play quarterback. There's no doubt about it.
And over the years he continues to prove that that
those qualities are going to keep the Eagles in a
lot of games, and they're gonna win a ton of

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games because he's a quarterback that, like a ton of errors,
doesn't lose the game for the team, and when it
matters most, he's able to run and make enough plays.
And so I think that those are to me a
lot of positives when it comes to Hurts, And I
don't think he gets credit for all those things.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Yeah, I and the way it hit, you know, because everybody,
the whole world watched the game right, and the way
it hit Friday morning was like people throwing out his
numbers on social media and I'm like, dude, like why
would you throw out his numbers like it's not and
by the way, you throw these passing numbers, but you

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ignore the rush numbers and the two touchdowns like he
scores a bushel of touchdowns a year. Man, I know,
like the name the game is to get the ball
the end zone, and he does it. That's why I
use the point guard label like Magic Johnson, right, like
how do you want me to beat you? You want
me to beat you by you know, passing it or

(59:12):
by scoring myself? Like you know, it drives me nuts
that the kid, because I think the kid's a winner. Listen,
I don't think he's built like those elites. But if
the kid wins, the guy wins, the guy's a winner.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
He definitely is a winner.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
He won in college, he's won in the NFL so far,
and he's proven I think every game that he is
that type of player. Look, they're gonna get a national
spotlight this weekend playing the Chiefs. I guess next weekend
by now will play the Chiefs again, Like they're gonna
have opportunities obviously to continue to sort of prove the
doubters wrong. And I think I think a lot of times, man,
it's really hard for people to just admit they were

(59:53):
wrong about players and situations. I think people Pigeonholmee Jalen
Hurts in a certain role in the NFL, and he's
done better than that, and it just can't admit that
they were wrong about the evaluation. It's not simples too.
You say, oh, he's not gonna be good quarterback, he
ends up being good. You just can't bring yourself to
say that we made a mistake on the evaluation.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Uh, sit tight, Sit tight. We're
gonna finish the Eagles and Cowboys, the Chiefs and Charges
will look at head to the NFL. But also want
to get to some college today too, because a couple
of big games Michigan Oklahoma is going to be a
fun one. And we got to talk about week one

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because you and I didn't get a chance to talk
about it and set up the stage.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
It was so big. There's a little bit of drop off.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Of the matchups here in week two, but we'll dive
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Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Yep thirty five to one. OW.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
I don't play touchdown market very much. I feel like
it's just I never win. I just stay away from it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Yeah, there's really been like you get lucky, you find
the back like you find a receiver, you fight somebody,
those like two and three touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
You know, if you get lucky, you can have a
big day.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Oh heck yeah yeah, man, you put one hundred bucks
in that. Yeah, you're go ten dollars your return on
that's awesome. So exactly, that's obviously a great way.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
But going in the way like let you go.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
If you're gonna size up the charges receivers, you're going,
all right, well, lad mcconckany's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Gonna get his and maybe you know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Disley Trey Harris, you know you're not gonna trust Quentin Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
You know you're gonna go to get two let alone one? Correct.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Yeah, anyway, good stuff. All right, let's go over uh
week one college. You and I did not get a
chance to know talk about it, and it's important because
it kind of sets the stage for today.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
So let's kind of go through.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
It in some of the big games and kind of
what you saw.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
All right, so look ahead. No, I think it was
a really fun Week one. I think what we saw is,
you know a lot of teams with with hype struggled
a little bit, which is normal for week one. I
think we forget sometimes that that that can't be what
happens in week one. I think what's interesting is we

(01:03:34):
saw just saw a lot of low scoring games, defenses
playing a lot of basically two shell and saying like, look,
we're not gonna let these offenses beat us down the field.
I thought that was pretty pretty fascinating for game one
and we saw to me, you know, some some offenses

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take some time to get going, which is what week
one is about. A lot of teams just took a
little bit of time to kind of get going. I
think that week two, we know in football, between week
one and week two typically is a really important week
for growth. I think we're gonna see that again in
this week and that it's a dude, it's a long
season now. Man, It's not like it used to be,

(01:04:17):
and teams a week one are not gonna be with
there in week twelve and thirteen. And we should just
understand that when it comes to college football, it's mark
the n I found that it's a long, long season,
and we're gonna have situations where teams start slow and
it will not matter to the end result because guess what,
there's a twelve team playoff now. So a lot of

(01:04:38):
fun action I was wrong about I think some teams.
I think I was kind of disappointed in the way
Clemson played.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Well, let's go through each of the game. Yeah, right,
go ahead, let's do that this way. We'll go kind
of go in order from Saturday. Okay, and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
So early you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Mentioned Clemson, LSU, Clemson, So let's start there, because I
think everybody felt the same thing we were. Everybody was
excited Clemson LSU is gonna be no smart against club
Nick and it was the whole dabbo. Hey, you know,
the referendum on the not going through the portal and

(01:05:19):
a lot of hype on Clemson, and really what stood
out was the LSU defense looking like the LSU defensive old.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
Yeah. So that to me is I think if we're
to have one takeaway, it's it's that. It's that, you know,
there were questions about LSU's defensive rebuild and what they're
going to be this season, and we saw really and
this was this point in me about Clemson, as Clemson
would turned the most offense in the country, and you
would expect, in my opinion, a little better play, especially

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on the offensive line, and that's been issue, you know,
for gods, Clemson has been interesting. First goods Clemson has
been They have not been grant on the offensive line
over the years, and this is the year, especially come
off lilast year, when you expected that to happen. And again,
to be fair, you know, it's it's hard week one
when you really have played just your team, and I
guess Clemsons defensive lines is really good. Peter Woods right

(01:06:09):
now like number one player in most mock drafts. So
maybe not the greatest take of mine, but the idea
is that you know, week one, it takes a little
bit of time to pass, protect and learn how to
play in a live situation and against a team like LSU.
But I think to me, if LSU's defense is going
to play this well, their offense will find their footing
throughout the season. I'm not concerned about their offense. They

(01:06:29):
have a good quarterback to have good being getting on
Brian Kelly, but they're gonna if they're going to play
this well defensively, watch out. They're gonna be a top team.
And and Clemson, look, the loss uh disappointing. Again, when
you returned as much production as they did, I think
you would expect there to be a little.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Bit better, a little bit better.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
But but but they play at a conference that's the joke,
and they're gonna be just they'll be a playoff team.
I'm unconcerned about where they're gonna end up. But I
was disappointed in the way the offense showed up against LSU,
knowing full well that we should give Alex Defense a
credit in this right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Yeah, you know, Club Nick, I don't know, dude. I
know he gets a lot of it, gets a lot
of love.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Yeah, there was.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
Sort of the top quarterbacks of the twenty twenty six
draft all didn't didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Really play well.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
I mean, no, smart gives you a couple of flashs
like I like, you see, you know he's he's going
to be. I mean, he's legit like he's going to
be going to be good. Club Nick, I just don't.
I don't know how well he translates that next level.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
It's fair, it's a fair it's a fair criticism of
of him. I don't see it with him at times
as far as like the type of pro player that
people want him to be and a couple hole season
to figure out and think about the NFL Draft. That
makes it really difficult for us to us. I think
to evaluate is that you know, NFL teams draft a
lot off traits and we just don't really get to

(01:07:58):
see the inner workings of traits. Sitting where the chairs
were in now, you know, teams obviously get a better
evaluation of what those traits can be. They talked to coaches,
they watch the film, they know the intangibles. We don't
know those things, but there seems to be you know,
club Nick has sort of looked at as a guy
that I think we agree like there's a lot to

(01:08:19):
get better at. Before we put him in that quarterback
one conversation, na Smart looked a little more complete. He
was playing on the road as well, which is important
here to the context of playing at Death Valley that
early the season, so very pressed with the LSU. That's
my takeaway from that game.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Let's go to the game everybody talked about. You know,
the one thing I get it, it's kind of human nature.
Because arch Manning got all the hype, the fact that
he failed or not failed, the fact that he played
a poor game.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
You know, everybody has to jump in and the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Social media afterwards shits ridiculous, But you know, it's kind
of human nature.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Look at the end, I felt the kid made a
couple of plays, you know, I had to one drive.
He's going to be fine in my eyes, curious to
what you think. And he was going up against a
terrific Ohio State team. Yeah, and Matt Patricia, Matt is
a good coach man.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Yeah, he's smart guy.

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
So this one, to me is a very interesting game
Ohio State. Quickly, I thought, that's what we get from
Ohio State. Right, they have a new quarterback, based on
new offensive line, new running backs, new offensive coordinator. That's
what I thought we'd see from them. Offensively, that their
their game not surprising at all. Defensively though, they replaced
seven starters I believe it was. And then there were

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playing a lot of a lot of players that are
really good, Like there were important pivotal players for them
last season. Now they replaced those players with more five stars.
So I don't feel that die bad for them. Texas,
though had to replace four offensive linemen like that. There
were some things for them that were against you know,
sort of them in this game playing on the road.

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But I don't look to me, Ohio State is not
a home field advantage that is any greater than anyone
than anywhere else. They they win a lot of games
at home because they're better than everyone else, not because
they're they're their home atmospheres that great. I wasn't like
the arch manning on the road. I that to me
is was not important. But he didn't look comfortable early on,
and that I think is where you would have liked

(01:10:27):
to see that a little bit, just a little a
little more comfortable early in the game, and he wasn't.
Now to your point, he got better throughout the game. Texas,
by the way, they're favored by thirty six and a
half against sam As. They said, I take I took Texas.
I think Texas is gonna smoke them today, Like they're
just gonna they're gonna take all their ring outs today. Right,
They're still a good team. If they were to play

(01:10:48):
again today, odds makers who don't have no emotion, right,
they're they're just they're they're just making you know, they're
just putting up lines. They would have to is a
favorite against Ohio State today if they played still, Texas
is still really good. They're gonna be fine, man, They're
gonna be fine. It's gonna be okay. Yeah, listen, I'm

(01:11:10):
with you. I'm with you all day long. And again,
you know, Julian's saying he made some nice plays.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
I listened. I think they're in a good spot. They're again,
they're loaded again.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
And I've thought Patricia is gonna be a really good
defensive coordinator for them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
I mean, he's a brilliant dude, and you know, with
that team and they're good, I mean that's just kind
of what it is, Patricia, They're really good.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
I think it's fair to be a little a little
bit skeptical Patricia because it's a different job than the NFL,
and he hasn't done this before, and so I think
it was okay to be like, is this the is
this the guy? Like?

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Is he is he? Is he the right guy for this?
So I get the skepticism.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
I totally do. But he proved in week one he's
very ready for this job. That they they did as
they did a very very good job just schematically trying
to find different ways to you know, unique and different looks.
So I think they did a really good job. I'm
very impressed with uh, with with with Patricia.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
All right, let's keep going, and you know, I tell
you Georgia is going to be a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Georgie is going and I know it's Marshall the opening week,
but nobody's talking about and nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Kirby's like just laying low. They got studs, dude, they was,
They're always good.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
It just depends that it's the same with a bunch
of these teams, Like they just have.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
To win the three games that we care about.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Yeah, but nobody, nobody went in to tout in Georgia,
Georgie and George and Georgia, Georgia not like the last
couple of years. I think as a as the fifth
number five team in the country, they're they're under talked about.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
Uh, probably because I we just got our stocked and
I don't think excites a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Yeah, that's more than other people. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
I I think they're gonna be good. I think they're
gonna be dominant. All right, coming back, coming up trouble
in Bama. All right, Oh my, not great, buddy. I
had a guy tell me about Simpson. I'll share it
with you. Oh it's not good, pretty damning. Oh my,

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right here on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. Hey,
before we get to Bama, because did we need to
do that? And the rest of the college football I
have to ask you a question. There's a violation question.
So there was a baseball game last night. It was
Marlin's and Phillies.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
Oh yeah, just yes, that lady. That lady said, I
don't know what gonna happen to that woman. She says,
Karma's gonna come her her way. It's not going to
be good.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
So let me set the state. Let me set the
states for the audience.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Right, So there is a foul ball and you know
it bounced, and even these situations where the ball bounces right,
and you got like a group of people standing there
and they're all reaching for the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Well, this dude is the first one.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
He snatches the ball, he raises it up and then
he goes to his son and he gives the ball
right to his boy, and the boy smiling, and you
know it's a beautiful moment, right whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:14:54):
Well, this woman true all right, that she is aaron,
that she is comes over and starts beading this dude
to the point where he takes the ball from the
kid's glove and gives her the ball, and it just

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in sets me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
Now, the Marlins, God blessed them, did the right thing.
They were great. They gave the kid all kinds of
chots keys and.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
Then he's a Phillies fan though, so I appreciate what
to get.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Like Harrison Baterer's autograph and the sign ball from Allison
Bader like the Philly like did Marlin's got the Phillies
a step up, And so the kid was able to,
you know, to get some stuff. But this woman's all
over social media, so you gotta guys gotta check it out.
I gotta tell you, brother, I was like, are you
kidding me? With this lady, I would have told her

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to go bleep herself seven ways from Sunday, get the
hell out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
You're not getting near them. But the kids, my kid's
ball beat it, Karen.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
So the dad came from about what like seven seats
over and got the foul ball when it and look
again it No one's entitled to a ball. And you know,
he seemed like, and some of us are non confrontational, right,
just seemed like for him it was like, I'm this
lady's yelling at me, like here, it must matter a

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lot to you take the ball. I have a firm
policy when it comes to foul balls or home run
balls adults, unless it is like a special ball, like
the player has a milestone at bat and the ball
is yours to keep, or you know, it's a game
winning home run something like that, that you should as
an adult, if you catch a foul ball, you should

(01:16:43):
give it to the nearest kid. Yes, every single time.
I don't care what, I don't care. You don't need
an one foul ball hit by show Halo Tani. Give
it to the kid every single time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Give it to the kid.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
And this lady again, I don't know what words I
can and I cannot use on Terresto Radio, so I'll
just stay away from saying anything. But like this lady,
you're now famous for the wrong reasons. Congratulations, all for
all for it was a home runner, all for a
home run baseball in a Marlins Phillies game. And I understand,
I understand the pushback of this might be the only

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game she's ever been to and blah blah blah. Okay, great,
you're an adult. Okay, give the ball to the kid.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
Okay, are you gonna put the Are you gonna put
the baseball on the mantle at your house?

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
But guess what, your kid. That kid is going to
love that baseball. Like my kids, it goes in their room,
they talk about it. They you know, they bring up
their friends like it's a big moment for these kids,
the opportunity to just get a baseball, man, and for
you to ruin the opportunity because your selfishness and your
need to be the center of attention to me is wrong.

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And I hope this lady gets famous for the wrong reasons.
And you know she she just gets it's coming first.
The karma on this one's gonna be bad, very bad
for this lady, and she does.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
I gotta tell you I was I saw the when
I saw the interaction, I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Now, First of all, the rule and.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
There is a rule, right, if you go to baseball games,
there's a rule. The ball bounces. Yeah, it's free game, right,
Like I'm with you on to give it to the
nearest kid, right, it's free game. Like the guy didn't
do anything wrong and for her to behave that way,
and you know, listen, I hate to be like judge people.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Udge.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
You can judge her, yeah, but like I mean, I
could just imagine this woman. This woman looks like a nightmare. Right,
always got something to like, you know, the archetype's got
something to say, her opinion you want. You know what
drives me nounces like the people that are so pious

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and yet they're they're not nice, right, Like, what are
you doing? You're supposed to be all holder than now
and yet you're not even nice and you think you
don't even.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
See the other side of your belief system.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
I hate people like I gotta tell you, a kid
stand it and her face she's I hate the face
like people look at you kids stand there.

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
You know, her profile on social media is gonna be
like mother, yes, and you know out of religion pronouns, yeah,
out of religion in there you know, you'll say like,
and she doesn't act that way at all in public.
So I'm glad they made the kid hole. He deserves
it because that's that's his ball to have.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
Yes, I just felt so bad for that kid. And
and listen, you're right like the fathers. You know, the
father is just like, oh my god, the way he
reacted once he came up, he.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Like he shuck, you say it, shuck.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
My wife would have maybe punched that woman in the face.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Yeah, your wife would in my mind too. Fellas right here,
Fox Sports Radio, Sports Radio Radio, that's us. Good morning,
Good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
At seven am in the east sunrise upon us kickoff
Week two in college football about to commence at noontime.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
We'll go through some of your games for it noon.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Penn State, which looking pretty formidable against Nevada, but nonetheless, Penn.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
State looks like it's uh, it's got you know, it's
got the goods. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
You got a great backfield, perhaps the best backfield in
the country, along with Notre Dame and uh, Drew Allen, you're.

Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
Just waiting to see them play Orgon. Same with Oregon.
You're just that's the week five. Somehow, somehow, Pennstanihill has
a buye before they get to play Orgon at home
in a white out.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
That must they also have a bye before they play Ohio.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
So's Ohio state, though they both have a buy so
that that's fair. But Oregon traveling across the country to
play a whiteout game with pensan off a bye feels
like the like, But the cars aren't really aren't really Uh,
I don't really square here. But nonetheless, nonetheless, we're gonna
have a wager you and I on that game, squads
going at it. You're gonna give me like I mean,

(01:21:22):
I guess the spreader like I think. I think it's
a tough game for us. I've said all along, I
don't think we win that game, and I think it's
just a tough Oh yeah, we'll do dinner. I think Oregon.
I've not been this excited for an Oregon team in
quite a few years. I think last year obviously, I
was excited because I thought we had a chance to

(01:21:44):
win a championship, but I knew that our our talent
depth was probably not there. I didn't I didn't think
Gabriel was good enough to lead us to a championship.
This year's team is super young. We have twenty guys
we played in Week one that are either first or
second your players that had not played before, including starting
two freshmen, two true freshman wide receivers, and two freshman cornerbacks.

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But buddy, our team is is. It ain't happened this year,
but we can get. If we get Dante more to
stay one more year, next year, we're gonna We're gonna
be in that championship game. I we we are that
good and so this year is a building year for us.
For That's why I think the Penn State game is
gonna be tough to play. That game on the road

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is really our our environment. No offense to to Northwestern,
who we play next weekend. I'm gonna be there. I
text you about. I don't know if I'll be on
the show next week, depending on sort of right right,
I'll be in Chicago to watch.

Speaker 5 (01:22:45):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
This is the The benefit for.

Speaker 4 (01:22:47):
Me is the East Coast Oregon fan of the Big
Ten move is the ability to watch them play on
the East coast. I'm gonna go, I know, the East coast.
I'm gonna go Chicago next weekend to watch organ play Northwestern.
We're really good, so I'm looking for that Penn State
Oregon game.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Northwest is a pretty good team too. They rolled last night.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
They stink well, you know, I mean, I'm not I
think Oregon's gonna win. I'm not saying it like that,
but I'm you know, they're not bad. If they're not
a bid, you know, kind of second tier Big ten team,
they're you're being very nice. It's okay to be mean.
They're not very good. Let's be honest.

Speaker 4 (01:23:22):
Orgon's gonna win that game by fourtowns.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
Yeah, I think I think Oregon was by, you know, comfortably.
But Malley point is that they're better than they used
than they normally are.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
You know. Sure, they did lose.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
Twenty three to three in Week one, though, so I
don't Yeah, someone who was, I guess, but no less
so Penn State today forty one and a half. I
think as a number. Yeah, when James Franklin is a
favorite the head coach between seven and nineteen points, I
believe it's twenty. It's nineteen and one. Against the spread

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in his career Penn State.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
Yeah, and they'll do the same thing today. They'll they'll
cover that number. That'll be a big one. I mean mosten,
they're gonna be good. We'll see, Like you said, you know,
youve got a couple of games that you were gonna
that you'll be judged on in Oregon, I mean Ohio
State and in Oregon, Oregon in Nebraska. Yeah, so let's

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let's you know, kind of see. But I do think
they're they're gonna be good. Uh and and all these
teams are playing, you know, this is the layup week
Texas San Jose State. You love Texas today minus the
thirty seven and a half I got.

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
I got thirty six and a half. But yes, I
I like them a lot, so I I this year
this would be fun to do. I I played the
Westgate the Super Book College Football contest this year, so
it's it's seven picks. It gets the spread every week,
which is a lot for college football. And I was

(01:24:56):
four and three last week, so winning week. And I
have an interesting card this week, so be funny. We
can maybe do it every Saturday. I could give you
my myself.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
I love it, yeah, man, and so it's a it'd
be a lot of fun this year to play in
that contest. First year I've done a contest like this,
and uh, the thing about it is it like it's
so hard to win. I mean I went, you know,
I went four and three last week. That put me
like tied for one hundred and thirtieth after one week.
You gotta got many people in the contest. I don't know.
I think I saw like nine hundred yeah, yeah, five hundred,

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five hundred dollars entry. So yeah, got one of those.
So it'd be uh yeah, it should be fun year
for it for the content. I put Texas in my
contest this week. I think Texas, Look, I get it,
last week was rough. They're back at home this week
and they're angry after that loss. And Texas over the
years has smoked opponents in this spot. Go look at

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the scores from the last couple of years. Forty nine nothing,
fifty six to seven. Say, lost sixteen to fourteen to
Central Michigan last weekend and they had three turnovers and
missed a couple of field goals. I think this is
a classic like rebound spot for Texas. Uh to to
just get the party started right and early to twelve

(01:26:13):
twelve noon like played eleven Central and Aliston. Just think
it kicks Sataday. It's go kick their go kick.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Their butts today. I like it. I like it a lot. Ye,
the Gate the jewel of the day. There's one great
game and that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
In two you know, you know, you know and the
I in fact, I am yea walk go back your boy,
you're you're exactly yes, So yes, Iowa State Iowa.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
Uh is a great game. It really I'm looking forward
to that one too. I forgot about that one. Arizona State,
Mississippi State. I think it's a good game too. But
Michigan Oklahoma is going to be fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Yeah. Oklahoma a four and a half, all right, the
fight around a little bit. Yeah, I'm curious, see kind
of what you like?

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Uh. They were a big winner against Illinois State last week.
The tier played very well. I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Yeah, this game. I got a lot of thoughts.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
Okay, so yeah, a couple of things here Oklahoma last week. Look,
I love John Mytier. I have a heis and waighte
jurin him. It's unlikely to hit just because Oklahoma, I
don't think will be good enough. But he's a verod
follboy from Washington State. No one paid attention to watch
State last season. He's really good. Okay, so we saw
in week one. Now the problem is Oklahoma couldn't really

(01:27:38):
run the ball their offensive line A little suspect that
that does worry me in this game because Michigan, I
think the thing they can do that we can rely
on is defensively.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
They got dues.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
Now they have dudes that I might not played a
lot over the last couple of years because they had
a lot of NFL guys in front of them. But
they have dudes on that defensive line. The thing that
I'm most interested about in this game is Bryce Underwood.
So Brice Underwood is an eighteen year old true freshman
quarterback for Michigan who played well last weekend. But I think, Anthony,
that the that we're getting a little bit ahead of

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ourselves with the with the Bryce Underwood talk in this game,
the important part about sort of maybe paying attention to
the whole game, and I have access to film, I'm
lucky enough to have the film of games, is that
I give Michigan's offensive staff a ton of credit for this.

(01:28:29):
If I were to tell you you had a true
freshman playing who just turned eighteen against New Mexico, design
me the perfect game plan for that. It's what they
did against New Mexico on Saturday. I was run the
ball obviously, I had a long touchdown on early but
rpo one to read passes, play action pass. It was
the perfect atmosphere for Bryce Underwood. Cut off the field form.

(01:28:51):
I'm telling you tonight, it's not the perfect It's not
the perfect atmosphere for Bryce Underwood. It's going to be
a very tough game for the Michigan offense. Oklahoma's defense
is very good, and I looked this up. I wrote
an article for Fox Sports on this. I believe when
it was third and seven plus against New Mexico, they

(01:29:11):
were two for seven converted. They're actually Michigan was six
for thirteen total and third down, which I don't think
it's great against New Mexico. So in this game, if
you're not ahead of the sticks, so head of the
sticks basically is this right first down it used to
be four yards was efficient. You were probably like five
now right, So nonetheless, you get four yards every play
you get a first down but first down, you get

(01:29:33):
five yards, second and five, then you get to you
get three yards, you get second to third and two.
You're in a good spot. Right, You're pretty good spot.
That's odd schedule. You can push it twice correct And
when we say like on schedule, that's what we talked about, right,
five four or five yards? First play four or five yards,
second play, third and short. When Michigan does that, they're
gonna be hard to beat any given game because their

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offensive line is okay, even though I think they struggled
in week one up to their standard what we've seen
in the past. And Underwood with his army's got a
rifle of an arm with use his legs like you're
in a good spot in this game. Though, I just
think that first and ten is gonna be second and eight,
or second and nine or first and second and thirteen
like it's gonna be a must have a stay on schedule.

(01:30:15):
And if you get behind, that's where Oklahoma's defensive line
I think what has a good advantage aginst the Michigan's
offense line that I think was shaking week one against
New Mexico in pass production. And again, you can't half
field read on third and thirteen. I mean, you can,
you just won't get a first down. And we saw

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last year. This is reminiscent to me of Oklahoma Alabama.
Last year Alabama came into Oklahoma and John Millroe is
a little limited as a passer, and we saw what
happened last year. So now I'm not sure Oklahoma's gonna
score a ton either. I took Michigan under twenty and
a half points in this game. I don't know if
that's still the number now. I gave this out on
various podcast all week, so I'm sticking with what I

(01:30:58):
gave out. If you don't listen to me there, I'm sorry,
but I think Michigan's offense will struggle in this game.
But the four and a half this game can be
twenty seventeen. It can be twenty thirteen in Michigan's coming back.
Like I don't love the spread in this game, but
I really like Michigan to have a little bit issue
scoring scoring in this car Now. The one equalizer, of course,

(01:31:20):
is the ability for Phil for president would to scramble.
The last point.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
I want to make.

Speaker 4 (01:31:27):
True freshmen on the road very hard to play in.
It's very hard, but true freshmen by nature have a
lot of ups and downs in the season. It's what
they are. It's why it's difficult to project to project.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
So last night.

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
Maryland played Okay, they played in Northern Indiana. Excuse mean
Northern Illinois. Northern Indiana. I'm not sure they have a team.
They have a true freshman as well at quarterback. I'm
not sure that people talk a lot about Miliical Washington
because it's Maryland and week one, man he looked great,
like fantastic. You're like, oh wow, he was Week one
definitely again exact he's given twenty move twenty seven forty

(01:32:04):
three was his first game and he rushed for he
didn't he didn't carry the ball in week one, but
he's good yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Week two.

Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
More film on him nineteen to thirty five, you know.
Like So it's just it's it's hard. You're not going
to get consistency as a true freshman. So that's why
I think it's just a tough spot for Michigan. And
I'm I was surprised they didn't go with Mikey Keen
to start the season at quarterback, but I can see
why because Brinsi Nderwood, the talents. So, dude, he's got
a freaking cannon. Bro, Yeah, he's got a cannon. I

(01:32:34):
actually loved him.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
I was talking about it as somebody, uh, one of
the pro personal guys, and we were talking about him.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
I'm like, dude, he's gonna be that kid. He's really good.
President was really good.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
But I mean this game today, we're going to see
true freshman on the road, first start type of quarterback,
and that, to me is very difficult. So I will
leave Oklahoma minds four and a half. You get a
better number down you had earlier in the week. But
I can see this game being twenty seventeen like seventeen fourteen,
just ugly low scoring game. So that's why I personally
like this Michigan. I'm really looking forward to this.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
I want to give you a little preview, all right,
because I talked to the Brain yesterday and he's all
over the Michigan over. He's a Michigan guy. He liked
the one team he roots for team Total over today
or just over and for the season.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
Now he likes them. Oh, he likes the game to
go over the total tonight to go over.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
Well today, I mean today, you get a better number
tenen than you would then you had three days ago.
I mean, it's forty three and a half to that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
I don't know. I know he know he loves the.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
Over and it'll be interesting to see you guys kind
of debate this. The one team he's really a depth
at picking is Michigan. It's only it's one of those
things where when he talks about Michigan, I'm pretty up
my ears are open because.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
Look, he's got he does it for a living.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
But his Michigan take because that's where he went and
that's his passion is Michigan football. So I'm curious to
see what you guys, how you guys go at it
later today. That'll be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
I would be shocked if Underwood played well in this game.

Speaker 4 (01:34:10):
I just think, I mean, we have we have like
years and years and years of data about true freshman
on the road taking their first big road store.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
Yeah, I and I listen.

Speaker 3 (01:34:19):
I like Mattier and I think, you know, like I do,
think Oklahoma will score a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:34:27):
Their offense line has got to play better than it
did against uh even though they played last weekend who
it was some Schimo team all of the times got
it got to be better than it was last weekend,
to be I think, as good as they want to
be today, but they might get you know, admitagious field
position and things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Who they play? I thought it was Illinois State.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
I just yeah, I mean yeah, it was a team
that they should have played well against.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
Ye I'm gonna look it up. I think it was State.

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
I'm gonna give you a quickly as we can start
doing the show a lot on Saturdays. So of course
it was only I gamble on a lot of things.
I mean, I had a fever last night. The best
wager in all sports is fading the sky. When Angelies
doesn't play, they just don't cover.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
It was awesome. I hit alternate numbers, I hit everything
was great. God.

Speaker 4 (01:35:25):
The NFL, I'm okay, you know, like a I'm probably
closer to fifty percent of the NFL, which is you
really don't make any money.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
You don't lose a ton of money, you just lose
the juice. It is what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:35:37):
I'm college football is my my thing. I give out
wagers on on social media every Thursday or Friday. I've
been doing it for years. I give out three or
four maybe five picks a week.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
I tracked them.

Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
Give you my record. I covered the Pack twelve conference
for a living for years and it was basically my
PAC twelve wagers of the week. Last year transition more
to just the teams I, you know, the West Coast teams,
maybe a couple of big you know, Big ten teams.
I follow the Big ten much closer now with Oregon there,
I'm fifty eight percent over six years.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
Wow, it's great.

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
I uh, they're on Twitter. You can at Jeff Schwartz
like they're up every week. It's don't It's the thing
I do best, and so I just make those play down.
Of course I get I wager on Texas today, they're not.
I don't put I didn't put that in my my
weekly wagers. Again, I stick to mostly West Coast teams there.
I like Texas Tech today. I didn't put that in

(01:36:31):
my wagers. But those I put on social media I
tend to do pretty well. So I'll give myself a
little bragg there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:36:39):
It's you know, it's more fun to talk about the losses,
I feel like, because that's more of a storyline. No,
I won a wager like, it's more to talk about Yo,
you know you lost a wager. It makes a more
bigger storyline and it's more fun. I think to talk
about the losses at times. But yeah, I I do
college football. It's the things. It's my best thing. That's
lessen fifty NWNB fitting the sky. That's also a very

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When injuries doesn't play, it's like they are covered one
game this.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
Year, I can't watch it. I just came so I I.

Speaker 4 (01:37:09):
Don't know if I don't watch a ton of it.
At times, I will wager on it. I watched Camlin
Clark play. She's very excited to be but it's a
tough watch. Sometimes it's I'll be honest, is that it's
interesting game to watch. But I like I bet on
fever last night. You didn't really watch much of it.
I just kept tracking the score because injuries didn't play.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
She suspend it. And you know what it is, you
got so much time right to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
And I love it, right, I love sports, right, and
I and I and to me like you're you're gonna
make a decision, right.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
So we're all in on football. We're all on college football.

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
So obviously the NFL, the NFL, everybody watches and we're
I'm a big college guy like you, so I love
college football and that I you know, I love baseball
like so I'll be in on baseball and then NBA
and I'm a hockey fan, so I'll watch, you know,
I'll watch all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
So so I can't I can't even put anything else
in there.

Speaker 4 (01:38:08):
Yeah, I get that's why. Like for me, like people
do you watch tennis, I'm like, I can't. My brain
like I've done, I just can't like bring myself to
watch more sports. I don't watch a ton of a
ton of WNA. But there are wagers to make that
that win, and so I make those wagers. Like for example,

(01:38:28):
again when when injuries does not play, they're really bad,
this guy like I think it's it's it's I cant
redo the numbers. Is a troach. And then also I
watched a fever play because okay, the Kardovoc she's out
for the rest of the season, disappointing. But the starting
center opposing Indiana scores a ton of points every game
like Cardo's at eighteen last night. I don't know why
that is. They just he can't guard centers. And then

(01:38:49):
those is exact thing again when footballs here have done
less done you know, winter on the wm A. But
this exact theory plays. You know, where a lady has
a woman has a bad game, in the next game,
they typically played better if they're a regular score. But
the NBA too, right in the postseason especially, is a
bad game the next game you take Jayen.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Williams over and roll role players at home in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:39:11):
So I will take a look at that when it
comes to w But I'm not I'm not watching.

Speaker 2 (01:39:17):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
I'm not like the Mercury and Sun play today and
I'm looking right now at one o'clock. But that's all
on my television right right, I'm not going to watch that. Yeah,
and I have to watch, like I'm about watch.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
I love to watch it, Like I like the soccer
thing is interesting because I've kind of gotten way more
into it over the years and it's what happens a
lodd times, right, like so you know I was getting it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
I love the Euros.

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
I love when they you know, the yeah, like when
you're playing when you're seeing the elite of the elite.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
Yeah, some of that.

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
So like tonight, like for example, like so they like
the the Mercury play the Son. Like I said, mentioned
the Sun day and the sun of the worst team
in basketball. Like I I will probably take like a
list of time this who is Phoenix's best player. She
gets a triple doubles and it's eight triple doubles this year.
I'll probably take her to go, like, have a triple
double tonight today. Like I think there's some opportunities. I

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won't watch a second in the game. There are way
opportunities to be to be had if you want to.
And every city you look at it's an investment there.
You go, all right, we gotta take quick t o
We'll come right back. Uh, kind of go through the
card a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
I got to talk about Alababa, uh, because there's a
lot of worry there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
For me. I'm curious, see what's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
Uh, Fellas, Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargatto, Jeff in it hang
it right here.

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Boo, it's there, all right, brother bad Let's get the
bat because like the games today we talked about it.
Iowa Iowa State ghost cyclones because my boy Rock Obec Sorry,
Cooper Degene, who's a big Iowa by the way, Cooper Degene,
who is a stud.

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
Secondary play.

Speaker 3 (01:41:49):
He'll play nickel corner safety, he can play outside corner.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
He is just a terrific, terrific player. The Eagles they
could clone him.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
He's guys, a brother who's going to Iowa who is
a stud too little twn in Iowa. These kids come
from pretty amazing stuff. Iowa Ioway State is a great,
great football game. But let me ask you, Jeff Bama's
issue is Simpson a dude.

Speaker 4 (01:42:21):
Okay, great, great question. So Ty Simpson is the Alabama
quarterback who's been in the program I believe five years now,
and the question that I think we.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
Never asked is why was he there that long and
never started?

Speaker 4 (01:42:43):
You can argue obviously that it's because Melroe was in
front of him and other quarterbacks, but that's sort of
a long time to wait to get, you know, to
to basically never play in this day and age a
while ago. Not the problem, but do you think that
you can be a quarterback that wins at that level?

(01:43:06):
Wait into your fifth year to be a starter? That's
unprecedented in college right now, and for that to be
the guy? And it looks we'll also trigging about week one. Okay,
this is very nerdy? Is I love these type of things?

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
Okay? Yeah? Is that?

Speaker 4 (01:43:22):
So when you play in a week one game, you
basically prepare for two weeks as a player, right, So
like the week before the week before the game week
you spend some doing training camp, but you start sort
of getting the install for week one, like you start
sort of getting bits and pieces of it. Then the

(01:43:44):
game week you get your full install. The coach has
been preparing for week one for a while. Okay, so
that first drive of a week one is a drive
you prepared for for two weeks at least, and maybe
longer than if you're a coaching staff, it's often like
the best drive you're gonna have of a game. Look
at Alabama, South Carolina, North Carolina. They came out first drive,

(01:44:08):
bing bang, boom, touchdown. It's a it's a well manicured,
scripted drive, and then when you're off script, the offense
really struggles. So that's happened again. I mentioned three games.
I'm sure there's more where opening drive you look good
the rest of the game, yet right like just sink
not as good. Now, eventually Alabama did make some you know,

(01:44:28):
score eventually whatnot. But the point I'm making is that
that's to me another sign of the offense is not
is not healthy, and I'm very concerned about Bbama. Now, Yeah,
two more things, two more things in quickly. One is
Klein debor So everywhere he's been he's won, so I'm

(01:44:49):
not I'm a little worried, but he's proven to be
a winner. He won at two Falls, he won at Fresley,
went at Washington. The other part that I think is
really the issue. Here is the film showing two things.
One they're getting pushed on the line of stream whig,
which never happened with Alabama. And two is the lack

(01:45:09):
of effort. We've all seen that sloppy. Yeah, and again,
I watched every play Washington had for two years in
her Killa and the Boar. It's not how Washington was
with Killa the Boar. They were very physically. They won
the Joe mor Award for the best offense line of
the country when when he was there. So I don't
know where that disconnect is. Why Washington was that not
a problem, but here at Bama it is. Why Why

(01:45:32):
is that an issue for them?

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
It's a great question. I mean, they were sloppy, they
were you said they got bullied. I mean, geez, you
know that just doesn't happen. Last year it was a
lot of this very similar. You can't blame it all
on Milrow, correct I Listen, I'm worried about them in
big way, in a big way, I mean, and then

(01:45:58):
it just gets worse and worse worse, because you know,
you're talking about maybe the greatest modern day college coach
in Saban, Like you know, let's face it, he's number one,
and you never you never saw that when he's there,
you saw that attention to detail. I mean that's something

(01:46:21):
that was that was always there for him, plain sight.

Speaker 4 (01:46:26):
Yeah. Yeah. So but but thinking about that, I don't
know if I played Alabama today yet, but they are
probably going to smoke Ulm today. Thirty four and a half.

(01:46:47):
I big numbers that because as much as the SEC
team said to have some some scrubs, but I do
think Bama will bounce back.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
They played Georgia in three weeks at Georgia on the
on the twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (01:47:00):
We can get a Bama, Georgia, Oregon and Penn State.
Good weekend of football. But you know, they got a
lot of work to do. They got they got this game.
Then they have Wisconsin in a buy and the obviously
getting ready for Georgia. So we gotta see I want
to see the effort. I just need to see the
effort being a little bit better today.

Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
Yeah, and you know, again they were sloppy. That was
another thing that is like you never see on their
saving Let me ask you this way, you didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:47:22):
See that at Washington either, Like that's the thing is
that this is. We didn't see this, and I watched everything.
He didn't see this at Washington either. Yeah, man, that's
a good point. I don't know why it's like that,
but we saw it last year. What do you make
of Miami and Miami Notre Dame? What was your what

(01:47:44):
your your thoughts on that game? Yeah, so I want
to look. I think that I took Miami plus a
three points in this game. I thought that again true
freshmen playing on the road for the first time, and
not true freshman retro freshman, but a car playing for
the first time on the road, it would be difficult.
In Carr actually, I thought it Quit himself pretty well
for the Irish. Yeah, Miami has been building for this

(01:48:07):
opportunity this year for a long time. Right, look at
Mario and and what he's done in recruiting and especially
in the trenches that had been trying to build up
this team now for years and Carson Beckett and it's
sort of come to fruition now, right, this is the
team that he wants it to be. They're gonna get better. Remember,
they have five new secondary pieces and new quarterback, and

(01:48:28):
they have young wide receivers. They're gonna even get better.
In my opinion, they're a legitimate playoff caliber team. I
will not bet Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (01:48:36):
You get retro freshman making us first star on the road.
I think car quited himself very very well. Should be
very excited for what this team can be once you
sort of get in the rhythm with Kart quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:48:48):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48:51):
The thing that stood out to me because the kids
got a lot of a lot of heart.

Speaker 2 (01:48:57):
Man, he played well.

Speaker 3 (01:48:59):
Now it was almost like they felt they had Riley Leonard,
right So he's not Riley Leonard. When he carries the ball,
he just doesn't have that size, but he can sling it.
He made really good decisions that the the he was
up for the moment. I just didn't like to play calling,
like how many like you? First of all, you know

(01:49:20):
you should lean more into the run game, and you
got to love in Price.

Speaker 4 (01:49:24):
Yeah, but I think that they correctly made the assertion
that it'd be tough to on the football against Miami
with with their offensive line.

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
Right now, I hear you. You still got to do it,
and Price is quick through the hole. You had to
give him the way. In fact, he had he had
some success running it and they just went away from it.
How many times you're going to throw that flash pass,
that's what calls that turnover.

Speaker 2 (01:49:48):
Yeah, that was a horrible call. Yeah, I mean I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:49:58):
You know, I thought too, like the Miami thing, like
they it's interesting because you know they they're before they're
up ten there at the end, and that he became
a tie game. Like Miami just has trouble in these
situations like closing the game out. You know, now then
they did. They did end up doing it, but they're
up ten in the fourth quarter against against car you
can't allow a guy to get behind you like they did.

(01:50:19):
I mean, they's just again Miami just it's sort of close,
but not always as button up as I think they
should be at the end of those situations. So I'm
very curious to see them throughout the season. Mario was
an Oregon I like Mario. I wish them all the
best at Miami, and I think that Miami can be
the team they want to be this season because of

(01:50:41):
the work the staff is put in. We're seeing not
a not a not a backlash to the portal, but
I think we're seeing a correction at the top where
the best teams are just kind of very, very strategically

(01:51:02):
going to the portal. But otherwise it's high school recruiting. Man,
that's the backbone of your program, and if you can't
do that at a high level, you just can't win championships.
Of course, I'm not saying portal guys are not worth it.
There are cert situations where you need to target to
portal because you can upgrade a position. But you look
at the best team in the country, dude, it is

(01:51:23):
a lot of high school players maturing at.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
The right time. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:51:28):
Well, you need the patience though to build with them.
Right Because I had this so Matt Rule and I
hostitude podcast, I am called House Rules.

Speaker 4 (01:51:44):
Very disappointed in Nebraska's offense a week one.

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
Yeah, yes, well I'll tell you what I hold the thought,
and we'll come back to it with a quick geo.
Then we'll come back to it and then next hour
where we go all NFL and look ahead to tomorrow,
which is going to be it's the games of a TIC.
How about the matchups in week one? They got that right, man.

(01:52:13):
The matchups in week one Sunday Night Football Baltimore and Buffalo,
Detroit and Green Bay at four to twenty five. Wow,
all kinds of great games. We'll talk about that coming
up as well. We're the Fellas, Jeff Schwartz, Anthony gar
Got all righty here on Fox Sports Radio. Fellas, welcome

(01:52:35):
back live from the Fox Sports Radio studios and and Jeff.

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
Get ready to kick off college football Week two.

Speaker 3 (01:52:45):
So you brought up this concept, and I think it's
a really interesting one about the portal versus the high
school recruiting. And in fact, next week we're going to
debut before our show kicks off, We're gonna debut a
youth sports show with myself and a guy named Daniel D.

(01:53:06):
Bernadinas who is in a big time ad in my
neck in the Woods high school ad. He built this
Saint Joe Prep program which was which is a national program,
very very good football. And we're gonna talk to sports
parents about this and it's gonna be all a part
of it's going to be called Project Nil.

Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:53:28):
Yeah, it could be fun. Right before we get on,
we're gonna do that hour Project Nil. And I know
you with your daughters and your your family, like you
know it's all about and it's we love it like
you know you and I it was perfect because we
love this stuff. But to get to your point about
the high school recruiting, you want them older and bigger

(01:53:48):
and more mature, because that's really kind of how you win.
But you got to have patience to grow them and
then be able to keep them in the program when
they're not playing.

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
That's the whole catch twenty two of it. You know, Yeah,
I understand that, but I think that.

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
Again.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
Like, so.

Speaker 4 (01:54:14):
I'll give you again. I'll go to Miami and organ
for example of building a program using the portal, but
also high school players. Right, So Mario Crystal bals in
his fourth year in Miami. So is Dan Landing in
organ and you see the transition from early in their
tenure heavy portal right to phil holes to now portal
is very much a specific need, right like we need

(01:54:37):
a left tackle, find them in the portal. We need
a corner go get him in the portal. But now
the bulk of the roster turns its attention to the
high school development. And if you thread that fine line,
that's where you that's where you win. Now we're seeing
a situation where us he is a good example of this. Okay,

(01:54:58):
the realization that we're doing it the wrong way. So
USC member Loki comes in portal heavy, portal, portal, portal, portal,
almost no development of high school players. They realized early on, yikes,
that's that's not going to work. And now we're seeing
in year four recruiting level pick up recruiting. But also

(01:55:18):
their best players on their team, like are a lot
of them are the high school kids in the year
three four, the year three and four, right they're left tackle,
the right guard, one of their word receivers. And so
they realized probably a year too late, to go back
to high school recruiting, which I which I love. I
think that again they I've given USC a lot of
grieve over the years for the way they've handled business.

(01:55:38):
I think it's the USC. You should always remember that.
And they've made that correction. We're like to me, Dion
Sanders at Colorado has not made that correction yet and
they're going to struggle all season because of it. There's
there's something about the foundation of your team, the players

(01:56:00):
that have put in the work over the years. Now
those guys might not even play very much, but you
need to have a locker room full of guys that
have done it together for years. Weightlifted together, condition together,
met together, Understand the culture of what you want in
a winning locker room. Understand in those relationships you form

(01:56:24):
in the summer months right where you're you know, in Eugene,
organ we were outflowing the river, We're having barbecues, or
we're just you know, we we would go out an
offensive line. It's a very country of us. We would
just drive out in the country somewhere, go up a
logging road and just camp for the night and camp
very loose terms. I mean that's we bonfire and sleep
on the floor and drink a bunch like.

Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
It's not like I.

Speaker 4 (01:56:48):
But but those like yeah, I mean it was not
official camping, but yes, it were like but those bonding
those bonding moments pay off in close games, they pay
off in relationships. No, I think you're money those and
you can again, you can add portal pieces as you
go and those guys will get acclimated to the culture

(01:57:10):
of the program. But when you're constantly turning over thirty
forty guys in your roster, you don't build up those
relationships and that and that and that connection to the program, right,
And I think over time it really does end up
hurting the ability for you to win.

Speaker 3 (01:57:24):
So ultimately it's you're gonna have to build it like
an NFL team, right because free agency, if you got
to try to put a team together in free agency,
it's not gonna work. So you got to use free
agency to go after areas of need. Like take take
Penn State, right, they needed receivers in the worst way.
So they go out and get three receivers into Portal.

(01:57:45):
Well to go with a quarterback that's been there, two
running backs that have been there, an offensive line has
been there, a tight end that's going to take the
other tight end spot who just left in the NFL.
So there's there's your excent waving, which you have your
roster through the portal, which is in just like free agency.

Speaker 2 (01:58:06):
So I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (01:58:08):
I will tell you that I've had college coaches tell
me that they're down to recruiting six to eight ten
MAX high school players a year that you know, between.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
Portal and Juco they do one year older.

Speaker 4 (01:58:24):
I really think it really depends on what your what
the goal of your program is. And I think that
if you if your goal is to win a championship,
which again, a lot of teams just can't aspire to
it's just impossible. That's not a winning way. But if
you are in the middle ground, yeah, you probably have
to portal more because you're not gonna get tho high
school players.

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
So I understand that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:45):
Yeah, And I just think that's kind of you know,
I think it's you know, it's kind of kind of
they're like the Beltic had.

Speaker 4 (01:58:55):
No choice but to go portal, right, Like so Year
one were keep freaking out one, Yes, like you're one,
I you're one.

Speaker 2 (01:59:02):
I get it, Like here he's getting no choice. But
now but I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (01:59:06):
Your point's gonna be like all right, well, now established something.

Speaker 4 (01:59:09):
Which is why I've been critical about Dion, like you
got you gotta no Maybe I play Juju Lewis today
against Delaware a little bit more, but again, like your
offensive line portal, your wide receivers portal, your defensive guy's portal,
like you need your Year three. Now you need some
of those guys you've you know, to be to bes
right here. Fox Sports.

Speaker 3 (01:59:31):
Sports Radio, good morning, good morning, good morning, a happy
happy Fox Football Saturday. Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Guar, I know, yes,
where the fella is as uh daybreak hits. It's a
beautiful sunny morning on the East coast. So as we
get ready for a full slate of NFL tomorrow. We

(01:59:53):
took a lot about college football over the last hour.
I want to switch focus to the NFL. We talked
about Chiefs and Chargers last night. Just to reiterate from
the first aprogation, missed it. You saw Herbert game, Jeff.
You saw a game in which you know what the

(02:00:13):
quarterback with all the ability that the quarterback who was
came out of a lab with incredible arm, talent, size, mobility,
and you saw them put it together and you saw
his receiver, Quintin Johnson actually catch it. But you saw
the ability and what Justin Herbert could be against the

(02:00:37):
mighty Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (02:00:39):
You did. And I think that the takeaway is the Chargers.
The one thing we say about them often is the
Charger right where they end up not being able to
finish out a game where you know they should win
that game, right, And yesterday sort of started to go
in that direction right where they came out early, got

(02:01:01):
a big lead early, very clearly were the better team,
but settled for a couple of field goals because some
errors they made you know, there was that first and
ten about the eleven and they went backwards twice and
he had to kick a field goal, and to be fair,
the first driver of that their first driver of the game.
Without that, Carl loftis off sides or in neutral zone

(02:01:22):
infraction that they kick another field goal, they only have
nine points in the first half. And the Chiefs started
making that push, right, it was thirteen to six, and
then it was thirteen twelve and whatnot. And then the
Chargers came alive offensively, and Herbert made a bunch of
big throwers, but a bunch of big plays, and they
did not succumb to being the Chargers in that moment.

(02:01:44):
And that was a lot of Herbert, right, We've asked
him to play a little bit better in those moments.
We're now judging him based off those successes or lack thereof.
Then we're judging other quarterbacks because he's elevated himself talent
wise to be judging in those big moments. Third and fifteen,
closing out the game, Chris Jones loses contain. Herbert rushes
for twenty yards and really impressive performance from Herbert under control,

(02:02:10):
full control of the playbook, making checks, the touchdown throw
to Johnson, the ability to buy a little bit of
time backwards right to know what was coming. That zero
pressure that Spags loves been a great throw on the run.
I thought it was a very controlled.

Speaker 2 (02:02:26):
Using his arm.

Speaker 4 (02:02:27):
Talent, using his leg talent. And that's what you're hearing
it from Herbert all season. Man, charge is gonna be
really good.

Speaker 3 (02:02:32):
And you know, we've talked a lot about the charges,
a lot about Herbert, and I keep making the assertion
that now that he has a real coach, Harball is
a great coach.

Speaker 2 (02:02:46):
He is, He's a winner, he knows it. He's a quarterback.
He was a quarterback. Right. It's such a different It's
a night and day from Brandon Staley. Night and day. Yeah.
So to me, now the clock starts on Herbert. This
is year two with Horrball.

Speaker 3 (02:03:06):
So to me, now now you want to judge him,
let's see what he's got because now it's fair.

Speaker 2 (02:03:12):
It's like Trevor Lawrence. I think he has a good
year this year.

Speaker 1 (02:03:17):
I do.

Speaker 3 (02:03:18):
I think that he the coaching wasn't there, and I'm
a Doug Pee guy, but I just didn't like what
he did with him.

Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
I still think he's salvagable with good coach.

Speaker 4 (02:03:32):
We'll find out. I don't know. I feel like Herbert
has just shown from more over the years to make
him feel that way.

Speaker 3 (02:03:41):
I agreed, But my important is that I can't believe
that Trevor Lawrence is going to be a complete failure.

Speaker 2 (02:03:49):
I can't believe that he's a failure.

Speaker 4 (02:03:53):
Failure is probably not the right word. I just don't
know if he'll be as good as we thought he
was gonna be, which I to you that might be failure.
I don't know if that qualifies to me as failure,
but I think that he's just not going to be
as good as he's never gonna be an upper tier quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (02:04:06):
I'm not asking to be an elite tier quarterback.

Speaker 3 (02:04:08):
But I mean he was bad. I mean he was
making his decisions were awful, right, He's play was not good.
I mean he was just not good.

Speaker 2 (02:04:18):
Like he was a bad quarterback, Like he was just ineffective.

Speaker 4 (02:04:23):
Yeah, I don't disagree. So obviously coaching what will matter
in that. But I just want to make sure because
I obviously have a chief slant as a Chiefs fan,
like the Chargers get their credit for last night because
it was very impressive what they did. Good way to
start the season for them. Obviously, could get a division
win the Chiefs. Mahomes now thirty five and six against
the division, which is insane number insane that that's what

(02:04:45):
it is. But that's where he's out right now. So
good for the Chargers and that win last night.

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
Yeah, we talked about Eagles and Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (02:04:55):
We both believe the Eagles are the Eagles and they're
gonna be really good and they're the elite of the NFC.
We'll see who joins them in the elite status the Cowboys. However,
my question to you is, had they work something out
with Micah, might this be a real contender of a team.

Speaker 4 (02:05:19):
What do you mean by a contender like to just
win the East when the.

Speaker 3 (02:05:22):
Super Bowl or you know, listen would would they be
a legit contender in the in the NFC had they
kept Michael Parsons.

Speaker 4 (02:05:35):
No, but I think that their win total was certainly
achievable and I totally by the way, So they lost
last night or two nights ago as an eight point
underdog and their total didn't move at seven and a
half plus money now, which seems like an insane overreaction
to what we saw. The Cowboys were very much in
that game for a long time. The rain de lay

(02:05:57):
kind of mess with everyone and ended up just you know,
obviously not being able to win that game. But the
Cowboys looked looked the part. Look, guys, when Dak Prescott
has played, this Cowboys team has been really good.

Speaker 2 (02:06:08):
They've won.

Speaker 4 (02:06:09):
They won thirty or six games over three years before
it got hurt last season. So they're going to be
in a lot of games. They're gonna win a long games.
The issue I have with them is the pass rush
is that they obviously it's the Eagles. It's hard to
pass against Eagles. But what do you do, man like
you just you can't get any pressure on the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (02:06:26):
Well that's my pint.

Speaker 3 (02:06:28):
If you have Michael Parsons on this team, you go,
all right, Well the offense with Pickens like Pickens lamb
you know, yeah, it's pretty good. Dak back, you know,
Dak and sling it all day long. Javonte Williams looked refreshed.

Speaker 4 (02:06:41):
And the offensive line there is good too.

Speaker 3 (02:06:43):
Well, it's point like, had you worked had you worked
something out with Michael Barzons, like you should have Jerry.

Speaker 4 (02:06:51):
Just he he whether it was the handshakes, whether he
was so caught up on that handshake, whether it was
that or something else injuries the leadership questions about Parsons,
he just very clearly did not want to reassign Parsons.

Speaker 2 (02:07:11):
So now, so this is interesting. I'm Clarence Hill, you know,
Clarence yea.

Speaker 3 (02:07:16):
So Clarence has covered the Cowboys forever, legend in the
press box down in Dallas. He now works for All
City Networks d LLS, and Clarence I talked to on Thursday,
and he was telling me that he loved Micah, that
he wanted the same relationship that he had with Michael

(02:07:39):
Irvin and with Michael Irvin like he loved him, like
he loved Michael. Now, he also bowed Michael out back
in the day, you know, a bunch of issues and
whatever was going on. Jerry was like his guy like
you know, and Jerry loved playing that role and he
bowled him out. And he did a handshake deal with

(02:08:00):
Michael Irvin, right, and.

Speaker 2 (02:08:02):
So he big one. I think he wanted to skew.

Speaker 3 (02:08:09):
Make it personal in a good way, right, like yeah, no, Michael,
you're my boy, Like I want you to be my Michael.

Speaker 4 (02:08:16):
Okay. A couple of things here. One is that that's
all great, okay, But the other person that has to
agree to a handshake deal, right, So it doesn't work
if if no one agrees to it, and Michael Parsons
might not want to be your Michael Irvin. And that
to me, that excuse for not resigning him the handshake

(02:08:40):
whatever excuse, I want him to be my Michael Irvin.
If that's the reason why you didn't sign him, you
have made a grave mistake because this this is a
business at times that is emotionless. Right, if you make
decisions based off of what's best for your team and
try the emotion. I'm not arguing you can have emotion.
I'm not arguing that at times it doesn't feel emotional.

(02:09:02):
But to not pay Michael Parsons because you wanted him
to be Michael Irvin in a relationship, to me, it's
just a really bad way to run a bit.

Speaker 2 (02:09:12):
Hey, listen, I agree one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (02:09:14):
I think it's ridiculous, right, But this is this was
Clarence's read on the situation, and he knows Jerry well
agree with.

Speaker 4 (02:09:26):
How he reads it. I'm just thinking that it's a
really bad way to run a front.

Speaker 3 (02:09:30):
I mean, yeah, I mean and and listen, he had
to bail Michael out of the situations Micah. Michae doesn't
do anything wrong right, like Michaeh Like Mike is not
doing anything wrong that you got ready to bail you out.

Speaker 4 (02:09:46):
No, he won't. What I what also I find interesting
is so there's reports came out that that Michael's podcast
is a problem. And I have long believed and this
is a little bit of curmudget maybe in me as
a as I get a little older now, I just
don't think players should have a podcast during the season

(02:10:07):
unless they're like the best player ever. I don't really yes,
I mean I think that it ends up causing more
issues than it than the positives. It's not because I
don't think it's a distraction. Michael Parson's doing an hour
podcast the week is not discractioned. But but but you

(02:10:27):
say things players, you might say things that you don't
realize you're saying. And there were plenty of times where
Parsons said things that I think rub people the wrong
way in his own franchise, the quarterback stuff, a lot
of things and I'm not saying that I was the
ball end off for their decision here, but I do

(02:10:49):
think that that it really does bother teams when players
spend time doing other things that don't have to do
with winning and losing, because all it's all the staff does.
They spend every second of their being right trying to
win football games. And if there's a situation where you
can hold that against a player, they will take every

(02:11:10):
opportunity to do that. And I think that teams. I'm
not saying it's right or wrong. I think it's wrong. Actually,
I'll say it's I think it's wrong teams use social
media against players. They use when it comes to contract stuff, right,
like not not explicitly saying I don't want to say
it because you're you have a TikTok presence, But if

(02:11:32):
it's between you and someone else or it's you know,
it's like, I don't know if I really want this
guy and your social media guy, like teams use that
against you, man, they use your your spouse's Instagram again
like they do. It's it's not fair, but they you
know this man like they they and so is it worth.

Speaker 2 (02:11:53):
Is it worth that.

Speaker 4 (02:11:56):
To lose out on playing in Dallas or having a concert.

Speaker 3 (02:12:00):
Don't think the podcast had anything to do with that decision.

Speaker 2 (02:12:03):
I don't, I know, but I agree with the whole
but the.

Speaker 4 (02:12:09):
Whole discussion that the handsing agreement meeting was about his leadership,
which stems from the podcast, that that's why that meeting happened.
He said that it's what the meeting happened. And so again,
like I, I don't think it matters all the time,
but I just personally think having a podcast during a

(02:12:31):
season when you're a young player still is just not
the best move. You're Max Crosby. I think Max has
a podcast like go for It. Be my guest Tom
Brady in year eighty five.

Speaker 2 (02:12:45):
What's the difference between Max Crosby and Michael Parsons.

Speaker 4 (02:12:48):
I mean, Max Crosby is a veteran respect in the
locker room.

Speaker 2 (02:12:53):
He's in that locker room. I mean, I'm just trying.

Speaker 4 (02:12:58):
I'm talking about why we saw tweets after he was
let go or traded that the players had issues with
with the podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:13:08):
A right, I I hear you. I saw I'm not
making this.

Speaker 4 (02:13:12):
I'm not making this.

Speaker 3 (02:13:13):
I mean I didn't think, oh, I didn't think it
was from people that come to I don't know, I do.
You might be right, but I can't believe that that's
the really because here's the here's the truth of the matter.
He signs the contract or agrees to that with the handshake,
he's a cowboy for life. So the proc the podcast

(02:13:36):
is irrelevant. He goes on to do the podcast in
Dallas if he if he does the deal, I think
it goes down that he got personal Well.

Speaker 2 (02:13:47):
I no, I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:13:48):
I don't think that he didn't sign because of that.
I'm I'm saying that those can end up being factors
that My.

Speaker 3 (02:13:57):
Point is that if he signs the deal, that Jerry like,
they have the handshake deal, they comply, right, he's it
like you know, it's happily.

Speaker 2 (02:14:06):
Ever after he's still doing a podcast like you're right,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (02:14:09):
I'm not arguing with you that that you know, people
in the locker room might rub people the wrong way,
all right, But the reason why he's in Green Bay
right now is because he didn't he didn't comply with But.

Speaker 4 (02:14:24):
Then what what are the reasons why Jerry refused to
talk to his agents like that? That to me, the
handshake thing is so silly because I know that I
bought the Cowboys on a handshake. Well you also your
lawyers also spent thirty days locked in a room figure
out you know, like the sale. Like look like let's
be real like you it's Clarence. I trust Clarence's read
on it, and it makes a lot of sense. And

(02:14:44):
you know, and I know from the other angle, from
the Micah angle, like he Jerry. I think Jerry let
it get personal.

Speaker 3 (02:14:55):
It's like he wanted to he loved the kid, like
he wanted to be Yeah, I wanted to replicate the
Michael Irvan thing.

Speaker 2 (02:15:03):
I mean, the ridiculousness is a you should have traded.

Speaker 3 (02:15:09):
Him in the draft, like if there was any case
if you weren't going to pay him. I realized you
thought you had a deal. But if there's any kind
of question, like you gotta get it buttoned up around
the draft one way or the other so that you
could move them and get more than too late number ones, right,
I mean, it's.

Speaker 2 (02:15:29):
It's crazy to me, and be honest with you, it
should have been done last year.

Speaker 3 (02:15:33):
Like I watched the way Howie Roseman does businesses, right,
I mean, like day you go all right, we're paying
this guy, We're paying that guy, We're paying this guy.
And Jeffy Lewis now is a terrific owner that he'll
pay a lot up front cash, which a lot of
owners won't do, which also gives you more of cap flexibility.

(02:15:54):
But Jeff, when you think about this whole thing, like
how he was all in on on mykah Adam Schefter
reported the Eagles maybe a huge plus.

Speaker 4 (02:16:06):
A player you make. He's that kind of a player
that you do that.

Speaker 3 (02:16:10):
Yeah, it's it's fascinating. But but but get back to
the original point. If Mike is a Cowboy today, then
I think they're contender. They may not be a favorite,
but they're they're They have every bit of chance as
the Niners, every bit of chance as the Rams.

Speaker 2 (02:16:32):
I think there, I think that they're contender. Tampa Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (02:16:39):
I think the Cowboys would be a playoff team ish
if Dak was was there. I think there's still question
I mean, Micah, I think there are still questions about
the coaching staff in my mind, but I think they
would have been fighting for a playoff birth. Yes, now
it feels unlikely because they just can't run the passer

(02:17:01):
right exactly. If you took away the best pass rusher
of the league. No, yes, it's it's insane. I now,
as far as the game, there is the line moving
a point and a half. When Michael Parsons got trained
to feel like a lot. That's why I want to
what I took the calndary was supposed to.

Speaker 2 (02:17:19):
I feel you, Yeah, I feel it interesting. Uh, all right.
What we're going to do is we're going to take
quick too.

Speaker 3 (02:17:26):
We'll have the Brain on and I want to cover
a lot of the games with you and the brain,
and we'll move quickly through.

Speaker 2 (02:17:34):
All the games. That sounds good, Yeah, sounds good. All right,
looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (02:17:38):
Where the fella is Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargatto hanging out
right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (02:17:44):
the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio
listen live.

Speaker 3 (02:17:57):
All right, welcome back fellas, Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargano, Jeff,
A lot of fun rolling by, all right, this is
the this is gonna be fun. That'll be a fun
segment because Jeff is a is a handicapper, and we

(02:18:17):
have our man, the brain, who is in a he
does it for a living. He's a pro. So we
got two pros. Right, there's Jeff. I feel like il
pro handicapper. I was really going for the football angle like.

Speaker 2 (02:18:32):
You're a pro a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:18:37):
I was going for the pro football like you you
are a pro. I am a brain's pro. So it's
kind of a cool things there. Yes, right, yes, I
love this. I think this could be a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (02:18:49):
Good morning Brain, Good morning guys.

Speaker 7 (02:18:51):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (02:18:54):
I like it all right?

Speaker 3 (02:18:55):
So each week you guys are gonna go head to
head in the NFL at college, gonna have some fun
with this whole thing. We're gonna go rapid fire. Let's
start off in college. And I know right off the
bet because I said it earlier.

Speaker 2 (02:19:10):
I was talking about your brain.

Speaker 3 (02:19:12):
The one thing that I would never ever go against
you is with Michigan football. You are a Michigan man
all the way you've you've talked about that team, and
you get him right every time.

Speaker 7 (02:19:27):
Now, well, not here every time, but it's definitely more
more than not. I would say I've been on the
right side.

Speaker 2 (02:19:33):
I don't remember a time you missed the Michigan game.

Speaker 3 (02:19:35):
But I will say this, this will be interesting because
I know that there's an opposite take here, So Jeff,
take it away your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (02:19:46):
Michigan Oklahoma.

Speaker 4 (02:19:48):
Yeah, I just think Michigan my way drive waizer on.
I took Michigan under twenty and a half points, true
freshman on the road against this defense. To me, screams
low scoring, grind it out out game. And I don't
really have a side. I don't have a take on
the side. I think it's uh could go. I think
you could win the game, even because I think Oklahoma's
offense a little fugazi last weekend. Offensive line not great.

(02:20:13):
But I think Bryce was just going to have trouble
because it's a true freshman making his first road start.
I got the top ten opponent at night. Feels like
not top ten, a top five point at night. It
feels like a difficult spot for it for him to
be in.

Speaker 7 (02:20:27):
You know, it's interesting, just uh this game in this summer,
they've all these lookal like guys, and you look at
mines that you could bet these games in freaking you know, June,
you know, April, May, you know, and they have this
total opened it fifty three and a half. Okay, fifty
three and a half.

Speaker 2 (02:20:45):
That's now down.

Speaker 7 (02:20:47):
It's now down to forty three and a half.

Speaker 3 (02:20:50):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (02:20:50):
You know, Jeff, listen, you may be right, I mean obviously,
but I think both teams actually will score twenty points.
And the reason for me is again, I actually we
would do like both quarterbacks quite a bit. I think
Mattier again now maybe Dana fugazy game last week against
a four opponent, but I don't think Michigan's defense is
necessarily going to be like dominant. I really liked what

(02:21:13):
I saw out of Underwood. I think both teams do
hit twenty here. I think forty three and a half
is too low, I really do. This game has been
founded the under. It's one of the most heavily bet
things on the card has been the under in this
I think the heat for the over is gone too far.
I thought this total should have been closer to forty
seven forty three and a half. I bet the over,

(02:21:34):
and I also bet Michigan getting five math points. I
don't understand why Oklahoma is as big as a favorite.

Speaker 2 (02:21:40):
I really really don't.

Speaker 7 (02:21:42):
I actually have these teams tower rank pretty close to
even and should not be five malf points for home
fil advantage. We'll see how it plays out. Michigan scores
twenty one or even they score twenty. I can't lose
both ways. I do think Michigan gets twenty. Jeff respectfully disagree,
but we will see how it plays out.

Speaker 3 (02:22:00):
All right, there is the first battle of the season,
the total in Michigan Oklahoma.

Speaker 4 (02:22:07):
It can still go over and we can both win
our bets.

Speaker 7 (02:22:11):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. It's absolutely true,
very possible.

Speaker 2 (02:22:17):
Yeah, all right. Any other college games you like today, buddy?

Speaker 7 (02:22:21):
You know it's funny, Anthony, like, no joke. This was
one of the toughest college slates were going to find
stuff that I really really liked. I did like Memphis again,
kind of a not a huge game, and going against
Georgia State, you can still get thirteen and a half
out there. I have Memphis just in my power rankings
it's pretty much an average team, and I have Georgia

(02:22:44):
State like right towards the bottom in my ratings, and
I thought the fine swing closer to like seventeen. I
don't understand why it's so low. Again, I just think
one team is fairly decent and the other team. I
think it's got awful. I think Memphis wins is won
by seventeen plus.

Speaker 2 (02:23:02):
All right, Like is that it any other because they'll
get to the NFL?

Speaker 7 (02:23:07):
Yeah, I mean that was that was really Those were
probably my three secs.

Speaker 2 (02:23:10):
But Iowa, Ioway stayed any any any feel in that game?

Speaker 7 (02:23:14):
Oh, Iowa State. You know what's funny. I did make
a small bet, a small bet on Iowa getting three
and a half. Now, Iowa State just these games when
these two teams play with me, as you know, it
just seems like every freaking year when these teams play,
it is just like kind of like deal with Raven Steelers,
like a rock fight kind of game where they're just
close scoring. I just I know I think I would look.

(02:23:38):
I always did, had the very nice one over Kansas State.
I made a small bet on Iowa because it was
over three, because I thought the line should have been three.

Speaker 2 (02:23:46):
Any thoughts on that, Jeff?

Speaker 4 (02:23:48):
I had nothing on this game because I just I
have respect for Iowa. I just dis liked their quoteback
situation a lot. You go eight for fifteen against Albany.
I know it's his first game in a while. I
just I like that, like that's a game that's a
tune up game, like you should be twenty two for
twenty seven, Like I don't even even if. And I

(02:24:10):
just it's a systematic issue with them at quarterback. And
I get Rock Obeck, like I get a real quarterback.
I get a team that's won a rival a game
already this season. But Iowa just sort of has this
black magic in these games that you know they win
with like a you know, a couple of years ago
they won because Iowa State ran into each other on
a punt and they muffed the punt. Like, I just

(02:24:32):
that's my issue with this game. So I have nothing
in this game. I would not be surprised if Iowa
State won by a touchdown or more. But it's not
like I don't have. I just I didn't wager on it.

Speaker 1 (02:24:41):
No.

Speaker 7 (02:24:42):
Yeah, it's a hard game, as you said, Yeah, if
you're right, they're so it's very hard to trust the
Iowa offense. And it's weird. When's the last time I
was had a good quarterback?

Speaker 2 (02:24:51):
Chuck Long?

Speaker 3 (02:24:52):
It's been a long time, Chuck Long. I love it
all right, let's go to the NFL card Our five
producer Brianna Brie. We need you to keep score brain
v Jeff, all right, you got it? All right, We're
gonna run through this quickly. We're gonna go through each game.

Speaker 2 (02:25:15):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:25:16):
Again, you don't have to make a pick, but if
you like a side, a total, or a prop, you
let us know.

Speaker 2 (02:25:23):
Okay, Cardinals Saints, what do you got, brain anything?

Speaker 7 (02:25:32):
Yeah, the line is teetering between six to six and
a half. The totals between forty three and forty three
and a half. Pass for me. Uh, not a game,
I bet. I think the number pretty close to being
a lean on a winner. My lean would be, believe
it or not, the Saints, but not a game.

Speaker 2 (02:25:48):
I'm better, all right, So you lean Saints? So well, yeah,
all right, what do you got, Jeff?

Speaker 4 (02:25:53):
I got nothing in this game? I just hope that
that the It would be nice if if the Saints
were to win, to knock out some survivors. It's about
that's about my my. You got to play on that team.

Speaker 2 (02:26:04):
I don't think that.

Speaker 4 (02:26:04):
I think the Saints are really bad this year. I
think the Cardinals probably win, but I don't have a wage.
I'm not betting at this game. Colts Dolphin's brain, I
actually did that.

Speaker 7 (02:26:16):
Uh, Indianapolis, I think it was getting plus one and
right now it looks like it's right around a pick.
I think Indianapolis is actually weirdly going to be improved.
I think Daniel Jones is actually going to be an
upgrade for what they have. And I think the Colts
find a way to win this one. I just you know,
I thought they should have been a you know, closer,

(02:26:36):
I'm not going to see.

Speaker 2 (02:26:38):
I'm with you.

Speaker 7 (02:26:39):
The Colts are going to win this one. I think
they'll find a way to win. Colts was the actually game.

Speaker 4 (02:26:43):
I bet, all right, jem I My best bet in
my podcast this week was Colt's mightest one.

Speaker 7 (02:26:48):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:26:50):
Proa agree, it's a road, it's a very it's a
very ugly game.

Speaker 4 (02:26:54):
I get it. But I think the Dolphins absolutely stink.
And I think in week one, which which ain't stychen
to prepare with Daniel Jones for two weeks, they will
have a competent offense. Uh It's like, what do the
Dolphins do?

Speaker 2 (02:27:06):
Well? Yeah, I agree, So I'm on. I'm on the Colts,
all right, you guys, you agree? I love it. Patriots
Raiders Brain, Oh.

Speaker 7 (02:27:16):
Patrick Raiders. Yeah, I bet the Raiders here, guys, I
think New England losing the val thinks of really big injury.
It was three downs, two and a half. I like
it's best way to bet it now is in teasers. Personally,
go and take them up to eight and a half.
I highly recommend that. But I think it's to be
a close game. But I actually like the Raiders. Raiders
to me or I think are vastly improved team, vastly improved.

(02:27:39):
I think the Raiders win this one out right, all right.

Speaker 4 (02:27:41):
Jeff, So I if you missed the best number on
the Raiders, it was three yesterday. But I'm the Patriots
love is too much their favorite, like eleven games this year,
Like can we take a deep breath please? So I
have nothing on this game, but I if you missed
the three then I just would maybe live wager or
like you said, Brad, you can you.

Speaker 3 (02:28:01):
Guys should say the same way though you both both
see right, I'm not waiting.

Speaker 4 (02:28:04):
How can you wage on the Patriots as a favorite
without you haven't seen them play with like this new
iteration play in the city.

Speaker 2 (02:28:11):
Game yet it seems silly to me.

Speaker 3 (02:28:12):
I listen, I like it, you guys, agree there Steelers
Jets the Rogers ball brain.

Speaker 7 (02:28:18):
All right, this was a game. I actually did have
a bet on the on the Jets plus three when
they lost the lineman Tucker. Yeah, vera Tucker. I just
and I and then you know I got deals just
has looked so poor. I got out of my bet.
No harm, no fouls. I just kind of like, you

(02:28:39):
know what, I just started feeling easy about it. Lean
here Jets plus three but not an official play anymore
because I just I hate when the team. Although the
Chargers overcame losing Slavory yesterday, just don't like the way
that starts out, Jeff.

Speaker 4 (02:28:54):
For me, we got to move fast, so yeah, it
would it would be Jets are nothing in this one.
Mike Toman has as a road favorite is a terrible wager.

Speaker 2 (02:29:02):
All right, all right, Giants Washington Brain.

Speaker 7 (02:29:09):
Rest with me or as my best my all in
game of the week calling the upside outright. I think
the Giants win. I totally me this game was pick them.
I was offered a trillion dollars and get cure cancer.
I picked the Giants. I like under forty six and
I like the Giants plus you can get some so
six mans out there. I like Giants plus six and

(02:29:30):
a half or six, and I like under in the
game as well.

Speaker 4 (02:29:33):
So this is stay away from me because I like
the Commanders a lot this year. I like them in
this game, and I know it's the wrong side. So
I did not make a wager in this game.

Speaker 2 (02:29:42):
It's the wrong side.

Speaker 4 (02:29:43):
This is this is like absolutely like square sharp situation
where the sharp guys are all on the Giants and
people like me that that have square tendencies at times
are on are on the Commanders. This is like, this
is a classic sharp square game, and so I don't
have a wager on it. I'm high the Commanders this year.

Speaker 3 (02:30:01):
And I put him down for Washington braid so because
that was his first line, even though he didn't wager
on the game. But sure you can put you that
for Washington. Okay, well we gotta put him. You gotta
put you guys down. You guys have agreed on most
of the other games. Uh, Carolina Jacksonville Jacksonville three and
a half, brain Yeah, Jacksonville.

Speaker 7 (02:30:22):
Mine is two and a half. Is one of my
biggest bets of the of the week. Now it's three
and a half. Unfortunately, still Lee believe it or not, Jacksonville.
I actually jackson is gonna be quite good offensively. My
number one quarter will you're called a hot take. I
think the Giants will be decent in the second one.
I think Jacksonville Trevor Lawrence will be the guy that
people think he's going to be this year. I think
he's gonna play great. I also bet over forty six

(02:30:43):
and a half as well. I think Jacksonville scores thirty
plus in this one.

Speaker 4 (02:30:48):
I like the Panther I like the Panthers at three
and a half. Jovi Joe, well, we can both win.
He's got two and a half. I got three and
a half. I say the Panthers are much improved this season,
especially on defense. And I just don't know what I'm
getting in Jacksonville. I don't really trust him quite yet.
All right, And so I got the Panthers bus.

Speaker 2 (02:31:08):
Three and a half.

Speaker 3 (02:31:09):
All right, all right, brain stick around, don't go anywhere, okay,
and then we'll finish the card. But we got to
move fast to get to all the games. All right, boys,
we're the fellas. This is a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (02:31:21):
We're at Joe v.

Speaker 3 (02:31:23):
Joe ob all right, pro v pro over here hanging
out on Fox Sports Radio. All Right, fellas, welcome back,
Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargano.

Speaker 2 (02:31:36):
We are having some fun with the brain and uh.

Speaker 3 (02:31:43):
Going through the card, the NFL card tomorrow. You ready, boys, Stuart?
All right, let's go quick because I want to make
sure we get to everything. Bengals and Brown's all right,
Bengals laying five and a half brain?

Speaker 7 (02:32:04):
Yeah for me game personally as a pass, I think
it's the right number. Took me to that many on
the road, but pass, I think it's the right number.

Speaker 4 (02:32:15):
I got the Browns and cover this game. I don't
think they win, but I think that they're not as bad.
The story around them is maybe worse than their actual team,
you know what I mean. Like, I think they're gonna
be just find this game, so I'll take them plus
the plus. It's look, you get the best Joe Flacker.
You probably get all seasons in this game, right, so
it's nothing new. The Bengals, Honestly, they're slow starting, so

(02:32:36):
win the game. But also to like the Bengals defense
still stinks, Like whych the Browns scoring the Bengals? So
give me plus five and a half here all right.

Speaker 2 (02:32:43):
I like it. The Buccaneers Falcons great match up in
the NFC.

Speaker 7 (02:32:48):
South Brain, I like Atlanta to one this one, out right,
I do. I was hoping i'd get a three. That's
not gonna happen. No, I think Atlanta those win this game.
They throwing down on one and a half. But I
like Atlanta to win. So and take the Falcons. A
lot of injuries for both sides, but I like Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (02:33:05):
Jeffery.

Speaker 4 (02:33:06):
If everyone has a team who they can never, they
never like, get right, it minds the Falcons. Whatever side
I wager on the other side wins. So I just
stay away from Falcons games. So I have no thoughts
on this. Well, I'll watch the game, of course. I
think Baker probably throws for a lot of yards. I
haven't looked at his number and yet, but I think

(02:33:26):
I think Baker will.

Speaker 2 (02:33:28):
We'll have a big game, all right, nine Ers Seahawks. Brain.

Speaker 7 (02:33:33):
You know this was a game I initially bet Seattle.
I'm sorry, yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (02:33:38):
San Francisco.

Speaker 7 (02:33:39):
I laid one and a half when McCaffrey news came
out and she's like, it's got n I's just have
a lot of binged up guys, I got out of
it again. I always say I'm looking to be right,
not consistent. I like Seattle and Teezers right now. You
can get them up to like plus seven and a
half plus eight area. That'd be my favorite way to
attack this game side itself. Right now, it's a total pass. Yeah,

(02:34:00):
I just don't like the forty nine ers injury situation.
I'm passing.

Speaker 4 (02:34:03):
Yeah, I'm not having the Seahawks this year. And then
the McCaffrey thing is not good. Now they have Brian Robinson,
so you know they might have solved themselves an issue
for a long term. But I don't have anything for
this game.

Speaker 2 (02:34:13):
Denver Tennessee brain.

Speaker 7 (02:34:16):
Love, love Denver and teases that's my favorite keys game
of the week, probably the top elimination game of the week.
I'm looking at. Look, I think Tennessee's a lot better
than people expect. I bet them over five and a
half season wins. I love what I'm like. Pamwoard seems
like he's a winner, which I really like, a hard
working guy and all that. Not a game on betting
at the eighth, But I do think Denver, and I'm

(02:34:37):
looking at objectively, I think Denver definitely does win this
game by double digits. But my favorite way to attack
it isn't teasers, Jeah.

Speaker 4 (02:34:43):
I have Titans under sixteen and a half points in
this game. Just a really difficult spot for them in
week one with a rookie quarterback. You know, we can
debate bo Nicks all we want, but we know the
Denver defense is really good. Tis offensive line still kind
of going through some growing pains. I have the Titians
under sixty and a half, sixteen a half points.

Speaker 2 (02:35:00):
In this game.

Speaker 3 (02:35:01):
All right, Rams Texans, the Rams laying three and a
half talking about a bagged up team against the bagged
up Texas brand.

Speaker 7 (02:35:10):
Well, mostly I'm seeing I'm seeing mostly threes, and actually
it's mostly see a lot of threes out there. I'm
gonna go with that. I like the Rams. I like
the Rams. I don't Jeff, are we sure the Texans
are good? I know they have a good quarterback, and
I know they have a good defense. I get it,
But man, that offensive line to be ugly. Yeah, the
weapons on offense with no mixing. Now, the no Christian Kirk,

(02:35:30):
it's Nico Collins or don't call it, don't pass though
and collect a two hundred dollars. I think the Rams,
as long as Stafford's playing, which is that's a good team.
I say the Rams win this one at least to
touch on one of my favorite games the league Rams
Lang three.

Speaker 2 (02:35:44):
I'm very high in the Rams this season.

Speaker 4 (02:35:45):
I'm just staying away from them until I see Stafford
play a game and determine he's like ready to be healthy.
So I'm with you in the Rams in general this season.
I think they're really good and if he is healthy,
the Rams to me are going Nancy Championship game. But
I need to see it before I wager on it.

Speaker 2 (02:36:01):
I have nothing for this one, all right.

Speaker 3 (02:36:03):
Four five the crown jewel of the late afternoon with
the battle the Lions against the Packers.

Speaker 2 (02:36:14):
Wow, the two.

Speaker 3 (02:36:16):
You know who's the great challenger to the Eagles in
the NFC. That game will have an answer brain.

Speaker 7 (02:36:24):
You know, Anthony. It's interesting. I've never seen a team
that went fifteen and two that's talked about less than
the Detroit Lions. Pretty fascinating, look tough game for me.
I don't know if Mike is going to play. I
did bet Detroit and teasers again from eight from two
and a half up, to eight and a half because
I think it's the Green Bay Wines game will certainly
will not be by double digits. Very tough game for me,

(02:36:45):
because I have a lot of respect. I think these
could be the two best teams, guys in the NFC.
I really believe that. I think they easily could.

Speaker 2 (02:36:50):
Be the two best games along with the Eagles.

Speaker 7 (02:36:53):
Yes, well, okay, yeah, along with the Eagles. Lean here
Detroit guys, and I actually did bet them in teasers.

Speaker 2 (02:37:00):
I have nothing in this one.

Speaker 4 (02:37:01):
I will say that the loser might have some good
value in the futures market vision or like a division
winner type wager or a playoff wager, because you know
the market will violently react to this game, and so
you might be able to find yourself a good win
total number, a good futures number on the loser of
this game.

Speaker 2 (02:37:22):
I like it, all right, when's Jeff the idea?

Speaker 4 (02:37:27):
Oh jeez? I lean Packers ever so slightly, but it
would surprise you the Lions one.

Speaker 2 (02:37:33):
Of course. All right, Sunday Night, the crowd, Jewel, the AFC,
it is.

Speaker 3 (02:37:41):
V Josh Ravens, Bills, Dateline Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (02:37:45):
What do you got brain?

Speaker 7 (02:37:48):
Yeah, Lione looks we're looking at Baltimore lane one crazy
that their favorite at the Mighty Bills, But you know what,
I just think they're better. I really believe they're better.
Watching that playoff game last year. Man, if I'm bar Ball,
I'm just sick to my stomach because they clearly were
better than Buffalo, just did everything except win the game.
I like Baltimore. I think Baltimore wins. Not again my bet,

(02:38:10):
but easy side for me. Baltimore or anything, just the
better team. And I think they get a little bit
of revenge in a regular season game. But Baltimore the
better teams here, I think they win.

Speaker 4 (02:38:18):
Jeff I took Josh all over six and a half
rush attempts in these In these games, he rushed the
ball more than he does against Miami, and I think
that this will be part of what they have to do,
especially on third down, fourth down, those big moments. So
I like playing Josh Allen in that prop market in
these bigger type must win games for the Bills.

Speaker 3 (02:38:37):
All right, and the lastly quickly got about forty seconds
parents Vikings Monday night.

Speaker 7 (02:38:44):
Right, I like to look. I bet the Vikings at
the open plus two are now round minus one. Lean Vikings,
Lean Vikings. I actually believe they're not that over forty
three and a half. I actually think both teams are
gonna have a little bit more success offensively than maybe
the market.

Speaker 4 (02:39:01):
Jeff, I'm sorry, brother, Jeff. Stay away till I see
both quarterbacks play interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:39:06):
I tell you, I lean with brain.

Speaker 3 (02:39:09):
I like Minnesota a lot flores early against Caleb. I
think it's going to be an issue that'll do for
us or everybody. We love you guys, have a great weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:39:19):
Fells around

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