The Fellas With Anthony Gargano & Geoff Schwartz discuss College Football Playoff Selection Notre Dame decision, Sherrone Moore Debacle, preview NFL Week 15 & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Good morning, Jeffery, Good morning, sir. I'm glad to be
back with you for another Saturday here. And we do
have a bowl game by the way to the first
bowl game is after Army Navy. I know, I love
ball season, it's it's too early, too early, too early.

(01:12):
The Bucked Up LA Bowl presented by Gronk no more,
no more after tonight between Boise and Washington. But I'll
tell you what, man, there's nothing to talk about in
college football, is there?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
What a what a very quiet week in the sport
continues to be a very quiet sport where nothing happens
of any interest whatsoever. And you know, just it just
it just continues to give us nothing. I don't know,
why do we cover the sports boring man?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
So basically we're witnessing history right like it's anarchy and
college sports between the private equity now going to University
Utah private equity here is wild. The whole sport is
on its ear and upside down. And yeah, in the

(02:00):
middle of it, there's a there's a coaching scandal at
one of the biggest programs in the country. We are
kicking off both season, like you said, where we don't
even know who's playing, and oh yeah, Notre Dame gets screwed,
and we wonder is it payback for them not being

(02:23):
in a conference college football playoff? All on its ear?
The world is wild. It's just insane, Jeff Schwartz, Where
do you want to start?

Speaker 3 (02:37):
All right? I mean, let's start because we were not on.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I mean, well, we were on last Saturday, but the
college football playoff happened after our show, So let's start
with the college football playoff. Saying I'm dying for your
thoughts here. Yeah, because you know you and I both
we love this stuff. I do power rankings. You have
them in your head. I have Notre Dame. Remember, remember, dude,

(03:08):
you're my man. Like, come on, I pay attention. I listen.
Part of being a good friend as you listen. I
think that I had Notre Dame as my third best
team in the power rank behind uh hive statement Indiana,
and most.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
People had them three to five.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, right, like some people have Georgia. I had him
a tick ahead of Georgia. You know, I had Oregon
up there, but I thought Notre Dame. The way the
season unfolded, we know the deal by now. You know
you lose ut Miami and the opener, you lose a
thriller at A and against A and m u oho
and two. Then you run the table. They came together

(03:53):
as a team, the whole thing. I get a couple
of things. You and I talked about this on Championship
Saturday last week, that the Alabama thing. As much as
I believe Notre Dame is better than Alabama, you can't
penalize Alabama for playing in a championship game.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Correct. Okay, So where to begin I'll tell you. I'll
begin here. The number one problem with the Coltur Playoff
Committee is that we expect, we expect a little bit
of uniformity, and there is zero whatsoever there is. They

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have no principles they go by every year. They have
no shining light that they here too. They have no
rhyme of reason why they do things. So the first
problem that we have with the committee is that they
make up as they go every year and when it
look I'm not saying that that's the worst thing, but

(04:56):
the fact is, they pretend they don't, right, they pretend
that they have like these guys. It puts everyone, you know,
whenever I tweet about it, I get someone to reply
with like here look like here's the streamshot of like
the the you know, the home page for the cultural
Playoffs that list the reasons why they choose teams. So
I got they don't do any of that. I don't
know they hear. You know, this year it was eye test, right,

(05:16):
previous year has been your worst loss or your best
win or your They make it up as they go. Okay,
that that's the first thing. The second thing is that
they might have got to the right result and we
get debate that in a second, but the process was
really really bad and it was quite frankly embarrassing. Right

(05:36):
when you have Miami behind Notre Dame for every single
raking up until the final one, and you switch them
when they both did not play this weekend, that is
bad process. It's bad process. It's a bad way to go.
If you felt that strongly about Miami they had another name,

(06:01):
you should have put them ahead of their name. There's
no reason not to do it until last weekend. The
reasons they gave, which again our BS was, ah, we
don't really put them, you know, we can't judge them
head to head yet until they they're close enough in
the rankings to each other. I call BS on that.
So that's the problem. Number two. Problem Number three Blabama problem.

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The last three years, if you lost that conference championship game,
you dropped at least one spot in the rankings. The
last three years, it didn't matter. This year, Ohio State
dropped right by you dropped in the rankings. Alabama didn't
drop one spot in the rankings for getting their doors
blown off again. They didn't score for five straight quarters

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against Georgia, they didn't go the second half of the
first game and the first three quarters of this game.
They didn't even drop them in ten. They kept them
at nine. They dropped Ohio State, they dropped by you.
They have dropped every loser of the conference at least
one spot. Yeah, I'm not saying you drop them out
of the playoff. They didn't move them from from nine
to ten. So I understand why No Daing fans are

(07:07):
super pissed because guess what, they treat you differently for
the first seven weeks of the rankings than they did
the last one. And I understand why everye's upset about
Alabama because they treat them differently than they treat everyone else.
And Bama, I don't I don't know Obama's even that good.
And to treat them like they're you know, you know
two thousand and five USC in this instance, like to me,
is wrong. So to me, this awesomes back to the

(07:28):
Cultural Playoff Committee doesn't have any ethos that they follow,
any guiding light, any principles, And when we think about
it from that perspective, it all makes sense, right because
they just do what they want every week. If they
wanted to, they could have just said, you know what, Duke.
We are so impressive. You beat Virginia, You're going to
have James Madison. They could have done that. No one had.

(07:49):
There's no stuff, no one will stopping it from doing that.
So that's where NET like, I think their name probably
got screwed. I would have put no I would have
put nobody in there. But I think it's fine the
way they ended up where they're at. I think the process.
To me, you can't make these off power rankings. I

(08:13):
don't think there was any I don't think that the
committee like purposely trying to screw their name. I do
think that, I do not playing an AC championship game
hurt them in the end, I think.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
But the AC.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Buried them well, the a c C also buried themselves.
But they're with their terrible tie breakers because you know,
if they would have had better tiebreaker rules, Miami would
have played in that game, and that would have solved
all the problems. I also do I also do think
that I do I do believe this. I do believe
that because there was a prospect of no a SEC
teams that they put Miami in absolutely for that. The

(08:48):
question is not whether Miami should be in Miami should
be and they beat their name. The question is whether
or not Alabama should be in Like that's a discussion
that we need to have, which we are doing right now.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Well, the other the biggest thing is to hold structure
of it because Tulane does not belong in it.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
And yeah, but that's a separate discussion because they had
to do that, right, Like.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I know, I get it, but I'm talking about from
a big picture. Oh, I agree, it's it's surd. This
is not basketball right, Like again, I know we have
this thing like Cinderella does not exist in football.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
It doesn't. It's not going to this year. No, I
know that part of it is is it will change
I think again this year. You know, Okay, the old system,
touline would have had to buy like since we had
last year, they had to buy buye. But you know
that to me feels like a change that will be
made this offseason. But yeah, if you if you just

(09:46):
go with the idea that they just make it up
as they go, it makes it a lot easier to sort
of stomach what's happening right now. And the thing too
that I just so many things frushan about the committee
is we ended up with two with two rematches? Why
why move the teams around so we go rematches? Why?

(10:10):
Why are why are Alabama and in in Oklahoma playing again?
Who wants to watch that game again? Why are Old
miss and Tulia playing? Move the teams around so we
don't have to have rematches in round one? I don't
know why they didn't do that, Like that's a super Okay,
put A and m at six and put Old missus seven,
put Alabama at ten.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I dude, I it's it's maddening, to be honest with you,
how this thing is structured and how they screwed it up. Listen,
let's go back. But let's go back because we're gonna
go rounding around this thing. But let's go back to
Notre Dame for a second. So I do think that

(10:51):
there is a backlash, that is, I don't say it's directly,
but certainly in direct and it's part of the motive,
which is, hey join a conference. Last year there was
one hundred and thirty eight million dollars doled out from
the College Football Playoff. The conferences get that money and

(11:15):
the team and they gets split up there. It didn't
keeps it all. Yeah, you know, once they got how
much twenty million dollars. Yeah, it's basically your nil budget. Yeah,
twenty million off the college football playoff. They have a
clause next year. You know what the clause is?

Speaker 3 (11:34):
This? This is I am, I am. I cannot believe
that this was agreed upod I. This was shocking to me,
but say go ahead.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, so if they're in the top twelve next year,
they're automatically in the college football Playoff if they're ranked
in the top twelve, which is wild.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
I am stunned that this is agreed upont I can't
I cannot believe that they eat to this. Yeah, it's
wildly And because I think of their belly achang the
last week, I think they're gonna be we we'll explore
changing a lot of things that no name has going
for them. Because when their commissioner got on national TV
and radio this week and blasted the whole process and

(12:17):
and all the things he said, I think there's gonna
be really a big backlash to the way they acted
about this process.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Listen, I agree with them in principle. That's a great
football team. They had every bit of chance to win
the national title.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
I mean, really I think they could beat Olhiam State,
they could beat Indiana, they could beat Georgia. I think
they're that good. They can't. You had a freshman quarterback,
Like it's absurd that we actually are having this conversation.
You had a freshman quarterback. He comes in, he loses
at Miami by a field goal, and it loses by

(12:58):
a point to a and m right against that defense, right,
what do they put up forty?

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:05):
All right against that defense as a freshman. There's an evolution,
like what a team is in you know, the summer
is different than what the team becomes. It's supposed to
be about the evolution of a team. It's crazy to me,
but they gotta join a conference like you just do.

(13:28):
You got to join the conference. And quite frankly, they
should be in a Big ten. I mean, who would
want to see every year Notre Dame Michigan or Notre
Dame Ohio State, or Notre Dame Penn State, Notre Dame
USC getting grandfather than in every year? Anyway, Like they
should be in the Big ten. Like that's the truth

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of the matter. Like this this go rogue thing and
the other thing. And again I like Notre Name but
you know, let's be honest. Here, the of the top
twenty five highest rated UH college football games on television, then.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
They had one, right, yes one, the USC game, Yeah one?
And and the reason was the USC game.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
I'm not sure which one it was.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
It might it might have been earlier city games. And
the reason why, and this is something that goes into
into what I think why they didn't make it, is
they just don't play a tough schedule really like you know,
obviously they they do in the non conference, but like
once you got past the first two games, I mean
that the schedule was it was a joke. I mean,

(14:43):
USC was your only good team you played. They played
a bunch of bad football teams. And that's why that
you know that no one watches them play. And I
understand that you know they're they're they're you know, they're
they're in their ad was like, we're we're a national bro,
you're a national brand. But the TV ringings don't back
up that people actually pay attention you guys like the
way you think they do.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, and here's the thing. Here's one thing that Americans
don't like is when you put yourself one single entity,
whether it's a person or a business or an entity
over the rest of the industry, right, Like you can't

(15:22):
be like it's a turn off, Like I don't want
to hear that you're separate. Nobody wants like, no, you
need to join the group. Everybody's there's a lot of
great schools and a lot of great programs. Everybody needs
to join a conference. That's just the way it is.
And people resent that. And do I think that filtered in? Absolutely?

(15:48):
I think that filtered in. Do you think that filtered
in publicly or just the minds of the committee members?
So do you think there was a discussion about it
in that room? I think for sure. Well I think
it came up like this, not we're gonna penalize them
because they're not in the conference. Well that's what you

(16:08):
get because you're not in a.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Conference, right, Okay. I'm just curious, like how how Yeah? Yeah, okay, yeah,
I mean like that to me, it makes a lot
of sense, right, Like that feels reasonable.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, like hey, like he's not in the Fairies. Hey, well,
I mean I don't know if they were at a
conference they'd be playing for they would be playing on
on championship Saturday. Well, you're not in the conference. Do
you read what you sow?

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, yeah, no, that that's certainly possible. It feels likely, right,
there's a little bit of punishment there. And again the
way they acted after this is not gonna help. Not
about missing the Bowl game, I don't know whatever, but
this the commissioner and you know, the the a SC
pissed us off by playing that Miami video. I mean, well,

(16:56):
you're not you're not. You're not a league member of
Coursey're gonna they're gonna try to pump up Miami, like
what not pump up their only you guys stupid? You know,
a league member. They're gonna, yeah, you you wear the
patch for twelve basketball games a year, Like, I don't
don't care. You're not a lead member. Miami is a
league member. They're gonna trying to pump up their league member.
That's Miami. So like the idea that that that was,

(17:18):
you know, that was such a sin of theirs I
found interesting in the discussion. But the fact is, you're look,
you're right. If you're picking teams who win a championship,
Norridaime was definitely the top five, right, Like, that's just
the way that they had played this year and they
deserve to be in that discussion, and now they're out
and I look the bowl game thing, so they did.

(17:39):
They decided to skip the ball game. And I think
that's a decision that made emotionally in the moment. You
had to You had to decide immediately if you're playing
a ball game or not. I think they waited forty
hours they would have decided to play the bowl game.
That's my feeling on that. But they had to make
decision like meet like you're for weeks, you're told you're
a playoff team. And they were minus three thousand for

(18:03):
Yes playoffs before the announcement. What yeah, minus three thousand? Wow? Yeah,
right for the announcement on Sunday, Oh man, I hit
a Miami like what I had? Nice Miami plus plus
four thirty on the Yes. That was nice. The note

(18:26):
name no was like eight hundred. It was like plus
eight hundred. I didn't I thought there was no chance
they were left out right bams out.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Right when when BYU loses, that was it. That's what
I thought on Saturday when Texas Tech takes care of them.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
So I thought that that was that minus three thousand
that's wild man.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
That's that's insane. All right, Lots to get to we
have a full day. I mean, we're just talking about it,
but we don't. We're gonna be talking about this all
day long. We gotta deal with Charon Moore and Michigan
where they go from here. I mean, it's it's crazy, man,
It's this whole world is wild. We got the NFL

(19:16):
on its ear upside down. Uh, oh my god, there's
only one team in the NBA sports is wildly.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
I took a before the season twenty three to one. Okay,
see to break the winds.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Right. Oh that's a great bet. You God bless you, dude.
Feel I feel good on that one. You should.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Uh they are they are a jucker, but you don't
want to tell you what though. I kind of still
like I kinda still like like uh like Denver though,
like I'm kind.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Of yeah, Well, we'll talk about it. Well.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Lots to get into today.

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unassist dot com. All right, uh jet Obviously, the week
was then dominated by Michigan Yes, and uh Sharon Moore,
which is, you know, horrible situations. Yeah, you know stuff.

(22:05):
This stuff has happened throughout time.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Yeah, so first and foremost, I feel worse for his family.
And of course, yeah, he has a wife and three kids,
and he's sneaking around with interns. And look, some of
the alleged details are not our business to share, right there, rumors,
We don't know everything. We we do know is that

(22:30):
you know, he was fired from an inappropriate relationship with
a staffer. He then obviously had an episode where he
went to believe her house. It sounds like threatened to
harm himself and then was arrested. And I hope, we
all hope obviously that you know, he gets the help
he needs. Boes, think about this yesterday when when he

(22:51):
was being a rained So he's in you know, he's
in I believe a mental stitution, right, he's not wasn't handcuffed.
He was wearing a white kind of white outfit. Versus
wearing like a would you would often see right from
a from someone in a detention center. And that was yesterday, right,
I believe, just just forty hours before. And he was
the head coach of Michigan football before he was the

(23:16):
head coach of the Michigan football team. And he threw
it away over not being able to keep his pants on.
And I he's my age, thirty nine. I look, I've
talked to Sharon many times. You know, when he was
an assistant coach and offensive line coach. You know, they

(23:37):
won the Joe Moore Award a couple of times. I've
been to Michigan. I'm fung out with him. I've tooken
them many times, Like you never know obviously what someone does,
but behind the scenes. But threw it all away, threw
it all away, through his career away, through his marriage away.
And I don't I'm not wired that way. It wouldn't

(23:58):
be me, buddy, would not be me. And so I
don't know, uh, you know how else to processes other
than basically just what I just said about the situation.
I hope his wife and kids can find peace at
some point over this. I hope he can get the
help he needs, and obviously he will never I ain't

(24:19):
gonna coach again in college football. Will tell you that
that's not gonna happen. And it's a situation that feels
very unfortunate. But you know, I see people making like
him the victim and her the victim, and maybe she's
a little bit of a victim here. We don't know
the you know, the whole situation between them two, but
is the victims are his family? Like like those are

(24:41):
the victims? Right? And so a terrible situation. And the
question I have now is what did Michigan know? Right?
They claim they didn't know officially till when they fired him, right,
which is this? The story goes that he that they asked,
the rumors came in October, the tips came in. They
asked both of them. They denied it. There wasn't any proof, right,

(25:02):
I mean, you know, you don't subpoena parent, the subpoena
their phones. And they both said, no, it's not happening.
And then she came forward with information that it was
happening everywhere. It's funny when these things, when these stories happen,
and you start and the text threads start texting about it, right,
and then you get the text like, oh, yeah, I

(25:25):
heard rumors in October. I heard rumors for nine months.
I heard this. If they're hearing that, guess what everyone
in Michigan's hearing that also, you know, and and I
understand there's plausible deniability for these things, and maybe they
did not actually know, but oh no, man, if Michigan
knew about this for a while and were waiting for

(25:45):
him to lose to Ohio State and waiting for him
to have his recruiting class come in before firing him,
that's sleazy as well, and there should be a price
to pay for that.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, well that was uh, that was the rule that
they won the wait until if you're signing day.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Now, the kids will be let out of their of
their let every intent immediately if they want to transfer,
by the way, so like that is certainly it's a
thing that will happen if they want to leave. And
you know that process now is a little bit different,
uh that you know, with N I L or whatnot.
But the fact is, it sounds like everyone in Arbor
Store knew this was happening, and while there was no
definitive proof of it happening, how hard did Michigan look

(26:27):
for this to happen anything? Look, is he the first
coach to do this on the side, Probably not if
it be the Ohio State that does he still have
a job? Absolutely? Those are all all the things are true.
Those are all true. But he doesn't anymore. And uh
wait a Michion. Look, this is now like many years
of scandal for Michigan, right but with and see to

(26:50):
have a problem in their thought department with with with
scandal recently. And I'm curious to see obviously what the
end result of all this becomes. The room was about
who they hire, I mean, right now in the prediction markets,
kit Kenny Dillingham of Arizona State is the favorite. I
think Keeland Bore wanted the job. We already have it.
I don't think they want to have it. Get fish, yeah,
and another year of turmwill He's.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Lucky that that they got Matt Campbell when they did.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Correct, he'd be a Michigan he'd be a Michigan man
at the moment. You know, I I don't know how
the athletic director. I also you know what one one
one last thing here? I thought it was pretty gross
how they they fed the information yesterday about how Scharnmore

(27:40):
was having a mental health episode and they fired him
without an HR person there or without security there. And
two things about that. One that was very clearly put
out there trying to get the athletic director fired. Right then, Hey,
he fired this guy without the proper people being there.
But I'll tell you what, man, Look, I've been fired
before from NFL job. Won't or won't not be in

(28:01):
afire a head coaching job. Man, there's not an HR
person in the room, and they fired the head coach.
What do we do why. It's not the way it
works in coach football. It's not a it's not a
it's not a corporate job. They get there's no HR
person in the room, they just get they get fired,
and they move along. Like the idea that this was
supposed to throw the you know, the ad under the bus.
I just thought the reporter on that was kind of
gross that that like they they ran with that story

(28:24):
and tried to make the AD look bad here when
it sounds like he might have not known, even though
I think we all agree he probably did know. It's
very unfortunate. Man. Again, Schroanmore is thirty nine years old,
same age as me played offensive line. I believe it
was at Oklahoma. He's announced championship winning coach. He had
the head coaching job at Michigan at Michigan seventy two

(28:45):
hours ago. And this has been going on for years.
By the way, this is not so, this is not
like he just did this last week, and it's just
it's disappointing. Man. It's just I, I personally don't have
those urges, So I don't know what it's like. Uh,
I can barely it's a little time of like I

(29:06):
can barely handle one woman in my life, my own wife.
Oh I love like having a second, a third, dming
women the thing two that I was telling someone yesterday
about this. Has he have time to do this? These
coaches like have no time to live their own life,
and they had time on this on the side to
like have a side piece. Uh it's all Uh, it's

(29:32):
all just you know, it's it's not. None of it's good.
We can laugh about some of it, obviously, But I
help coach gets to help he needs. I hope that
his wife and family have some peace at some point
with a situation. I just think, like I'm just gonna
put imagine my wife through this, like a my kids
through this. It's just yeah, it's an awful situation.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
It really is what's next for Michigan, right, like you know,
what where do you where? Where do you begin this search?
And then what happens to like a Bryce Underwood?

Speaker 3 (30:10):
So the search is so the search I think comes
down to two things, right One, are you are you
hiring someone to keep Brice Underwood? What's Katy Dillingham higher?
I think we keep Brest Underwood? Or are you hiring
someone to just not have scandal? And and this is
Katy Dylan. I don't think's gonna have scandal, by the way.

(30:32):
I'm just I just don't think. But are you going?
Are you going? You know he's even younger than she
and more are you going younger than sherw and Moore?
Are you are you going with someone like you know,
obviously I don't know, like canle de bor is doing it?
But can de Boor or a jed fish like a
coach has a long history of being a coach without scandal.
You know Utah yesterday and.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Now I mean real quick, just interject when when you're
looking at an older coach I mean, like we could
look at Signetti and go look at the success that.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
He had when he finally got a job. Correct. So
the other couple of names that I think are interesting here.
Yesterday Kyle Whittingham at Utah decided to leave the program.
He didn't use the word retire in in in what
was in his in his UH letter, he didn't use
the retire. And then the reports came out that he's

(31:26):
not retiring. He would be open to another job. He
would be if he wants that job, a great hire
for Michigan. I don't know if he wants that job,
but he at Utah did a remarkable job with that,
with that program. He brought the reason I didn't see
the reasoning.

Speaker 7 (31:46):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
People expected this for years, like just it just was time,
like he kind of I think he maxed out at
Utah what he could do at Utah.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Well, it's interesting though, because the private would deal gets announced.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah, so people actually so people expected this at Utah
for a while. Now him to retire, and they actually
speculated the private acuity deal might might keep him in
Utah because now that money kind of what I thought,
That's why I was asking so curious. So I do
wonder if Michigan just puts out a call, Hey, hey, Kyle,
like you're interested and see what you get back there.

(32:24):
I saw someone suggest like David Shaw. No, I would
do that. But if you're looking for like a coach
like that, like who's built program and got Utah the
kind of weddinghead thing. He took Utah from the mountain
west of the Pac twelve. They want the conference championship.
Like a lot of the power for schools that have

(32:46):
gone up, sue me. The group of five schools that
have gone up to Power five have not had success.
Utah had success. And so if I have Mischian, I
at least call, I'll call over there and say, hey, man,
you're interested and taking this job? He would no skin.
It just wouldn't happen under coy whitting him. It's not
how he rolls. And you get a coach that's won

(33:06):
a lot of football games and it's physical, tough, smart,
give him a little bit of money, give him Bryce Underwood,
which he really hasn't had at Utah and you know,
winning football team. Man, you would wow, it's what the
coaching thing, you know.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
You know, it's funny how you always say, there's not
enough quarterbacks in the NFL, enough coaches, there is no
entering Saturday comes more blends more into the Sunday. He's
not a lot.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Which is which is, which is what I said about
why I think like Luke Fickle kept a job and
why I think you know why I think you.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Know, uh uh.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Norvell kept a job? Right like these schools look around there,
like who are we hiring for these jobs? Head State
finally hired Matt Campbell. The story that came out, Okay,
hang on, put a bow on that. Let's let's talk
about that on the other side. We'll get to Matt Campbell.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
We also have to get to the NFL next hour,
so we'll start with the NFL stuff at the top
of the hour. Lots to go over there. Eagles lost
three in a row, we got major games. The rematch
in New England's that beat Buffalo earlier in the year.

(34:26):
Now the rematch happens. That's going to be fun. Rams
Lions also fun. So Lots to get to where the
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Speaker 3 (34:42):
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iHeart App. All right, Buddy, you were telling the story
of Matt Campbell and Penn State.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
So the report came out that they tried to contact
Matt Campbell earlier in the process, but they got a
bad number for him. I what, yeah, I saw that.
What your Penn State? You couldn't find the right number

(35:59):
for Matt Campbell's agent and then like you just didn't
you answer back, and you're like and you're like, okay,
well lol, he doesn't want the job. I guess we're
not going to talk to him anymore. What you like,
you just you just gave up after not being able
to contact him for me days. I mean, honestly, I
didn't really take that seriously. Multiple who have reported that now,

(36:20):
So I with that. Multiple people have reported that now
that they reached out to an old agent of his
who did not pass along the information to Matt Campbell.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
All right, I know, I I that makes so little
sense to me.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Oh, I agree.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I mean that.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I mean I didn't really take it serious, Like I
took him as though they weren't serious, because if they
were serious back then, like you said, like, what do
you mean, like you don't just not follow up like
corre all right, you know whatever I got, sid, I'm
getting silence, like what you know again? Yeah, we're Penn

(37:01):
State and knowing Paccraft. I mean, I just I would
find that hard to believe. I do. I find it
hard to believe.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
In the end, it feels like Penn State got a
fantastic coach and one that's gonna work really well, there
like in the end, through this whole process, they got
a coach. It probably should have targeted from the beginning,
who but Iowa State into into a contending team every year,
which it feels impossible to do because I was thin,

(37:32):
and there's no history of a success in football. And
it does feel like this is an opportunity for them
to sort of recover from from the Franklin end of
kind of debacle there at the end, he obviously he's
keeping Terry Smith there. I like his hire so far,
Jim Knowles, as I believe, leaving right, he brought some

(37:53):
guys with him from from Iowa State, So I I
like it. Well, I do too, I like a lot.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Anthony Beck, who obviously played in the league for a
long time in the NFL for a long time, also
coaches in the in the the other league and UFL.
And then is uh the dad of Rocco Beck, who
played for Matt. You know, Rocco's great quarterback and is

(38:30):
a great football man and loves and loves Matt Campbell. Uh,
you know, I talked to him life about him and
and he was he was thrilled.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
So I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I think they came out best possible scenario. They're going
to be lean next year, right, and so it's gonna
take a minute to build the thing. But I think
as long as you had patients, I think Matt can
settle in and and and do well.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
I think so too. I'm I'm curious to see obviously
quarterbacks have a big decision for him. Uh what happens there?
I was support opens up a little bit. But yeah,
I think that's a hire. If you would have told
them they end up with Matt Campbell fifty five days ago,
you'd have been like, good hire, right, it just took
a long time to get there.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, I I you know, I felt the same thing.
I'm like, all right, well, you know you turned out
it worked out for you in a world again, in
a world where you're.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Just a coaching shortage.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
You just it's like we saw the you know, saving retirement,
and you lost a lot of big time coaches and
it's going to take a minute to kind of replenish
and work itself through.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
And this Penda State deal got a lot of a
lot of coaches hired, Like I mean, I not hired.
I extended a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
I made a lot of people money. Yeah, baby made
a lot of money, uh for a lot of people.
All right, coming up, I want to switchcus for a minute.
We'll get back to college football, Army Navy. I do
want to talk about it, U like today, but to
the NFL. We're gonna go next Monster game, Patriots Bills tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
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so it's always gonna pop up at the top of
your screen. All right, talk to heavy college football as
you can well imagine with the world going wild, turning
upside down.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
We'll get back to it.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
And I don't want a slight Army Navy because it's
it's one of the great games. I love it and selflessly.
I live in Philly and when I was a kid,
it was we used to always be in Philadelphia. Yeah,
before they rotated, you know, to North Jersey and Baltimore,
d C.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Talking about to Atlanta, by the way, Yeah I like that. No,
I mean, listen, it needs to be in bad weather.
It needs to be cold, like he needs to be
near the campus as cold like Atlanta feels way too
sterile for that game.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, yeah, I have to.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
It just selfish. My memories of Army Avy. So you know,
I remember being a kid at going to the VET
right it was the old Veteran Stadium before the Lincoln
Financial Field, and the town you know, this week would
be filled with servicemen, right like, so all the Army

(42:17):
Navy people would come in and you know, it was
it was awesome, like you see them around town and
I remember being a kid and you know, looking up
and it was like a magical experience and going to
the game. You know, my dad, my family members, like
you know, everybody served, and we would all everybody would

(42:37):
go to the game, and it was it was a
big deal. And so I always remember, you're right, the
bitter cold, like right now it's twenty degrees. We're expecting
our first snow of the year is going to hit tonight.
And that reminds me of Army Navy. You know, that's

(42:59):
a part of it. So let's get speaking of cold weather,
let's get to the Jewel of tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
And it's a one o'clock game.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Man, if there's every game that should have been flexed,
I guess it was protected. But this is a game
that should be on Sunday night, not one o'clock. Bills
and Patriots the rematch, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
What a game. You know, this is essentially for the division,
right the winner of this game will well, if the
Patriots win, the division is over. If the Bills win,
there's still a chance that they can sneak you into
the division. They need this win as to make that happen.
You know. What I find so you know, fasty about
this game is obviously where you know sort of where

(43:43):
these teams are at, right, where you have a situation
where you have you know, a buffalo team that has
been inconsistent so far this season, but you know, their
ability to win games because of Josh Allen is very impressive.
And we saw last week, right, you know, Josh Allen
with the forty five your touchdown, Like they're just that's
that's what the Bills team's gonna need because they're not

(44:05):
great a wide receiver as we know. We know that
they don't. They don't stop to run very well, and
they're gonna need these Josh Allen plays to make this happen.
New England's schedule has been like uber easy, even though
they've been impressive in the games they have played. They're
off of bye. Mike Fable has been good career wise
off a bye, which important to note here right that
that that does matter here. Drake may has been It's

(44:28):
been fantastic this season. It feels like it's getting better
every week. H really really fun matchup here. Yeah, man,
it's uh, it's got a lot to it.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Of course, the last time, the last game, like we
talked about twenty three twenty in Buffalo, Diggs had a
monster it was like his comeback game. He played really well.
But you know what's funny, I was talking to Mike
Garrofolo from the NFL Network yesterday, and we had this,
we had this memory like that New England dominated the game.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
They didn't right, right, right, they did not that's right.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
And I'm looking forward to tomar Man. Keep going back
from the Buffalo standpoint two things. One their defense and
you know, can this thing get fixed? And two it
just goes back to you know, you don't have enough
weapons for Superman.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
You probably don't congraduates. By the way, Josh Allen will
be a father soon. I was announced yesterday. I yeah,
I don't. I don't know if they have enough to
win this guy. I know there's the short favorites. It's
so funny. We're to point this year where you say,

(45:51):
for a lot of the teams that we expected to
be good, well, well, it's a must win game. They
can't lose this game. The Bills have to win this game,
The Chiefs have to win this game. Baltimore has to
win this game. First of all, you have to win
a game. You must not be very good, right, If
you have a must win game, you must not be
very good, right, Like that's always you know that, That's
that's kind of what I live by and Buffalo has

(46:15):
a lot of flaws. Are they better at quarterback and
have more experience? Probably? Are they in a position where
they need to win and do you trust them in
these spots? Probably, But they have to win for a reason,
you know, Like it's just not been as good as
we thought this year. Plus New England's had a great season.

(46:35):
So I just don't know if I can back a
team that, again, like has to win, but hasn't been
able to do it this season in a way that
we've expected them to do in the past. I'm really
out on the Chiefs this week, will with them a
few minutes, So I don't really know if I'm gonna
if Buffalo is a side that I think is gonna
win this game.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Listen, I don't disagree with your premise, which is, you
know this has to win thing because of putation, right,
like this team has to win, that team has to win.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I had the same conversation this week. The Eagles have
lost three in a row, right, and they have the
Raiders in town, the lowly Raiders. If you can't win
this week, we everyone's been fired so well that that
was why I think, like, you can't lose this week, like,
you gotta win this week. There's no way in the
world that you can lose to the Raiders. No, but

(47:31):
we have this, this conversation a lot. We've had it
with Baltimore. You said it with Kansas City. By the way,
I will say this, I did not expec I did
expect last week to go that way. That defense is
by far the best in the NFL. And the Texas

(47:53):
are going to the super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
They're not going to super Bowl. I love, I love
where they are offense. You cannot go super Bowl with
that offensive line. It's impossible. It's not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
They're much better. They're much better, dude. I talked to
Spags this week. They see threw everything at CJ. Yeah,
everything they didn't and they.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Did nothing until the Chiefs foolishly went for a fourth
and three at their own like thirty like that. That
second half was gross. They had no answers and all
of a sudden, Kansas City, for whatever is Andy Reid
is like, ah, screw it, let's go for it. And
if they didn't go for it, Houston was not. I
feel love. I disagree with you. I think Houston's dangerous.

(48:34):
You said they're going to the super Bowl, though, I am.
I do.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
I feel I feel like they're gonna win the AMC.
I love their defense, I love it. I love I
love it.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Not with that offensive line, in my opinion, all right,
I can't see can't run the ball. I mean, do
you trust Stroud to go on the right?

Speaker 2 (48:50):
I do trust I think Stroud in games, I do.
I like Stroud.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
I do.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
I trust them. You got it, dude, that lines protected
and better did last year. Last year was a complete mess. Sure,
but the other day was not good either. Though it
was pretty bad. I mean, specs for everything at them.
I talked to I talked to Steve on Tuesday. We
went through the whole thing. Like they're good. They're good.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
I don't know if they're that good.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Like, yeah, but who is that good? You got Buffalo,
and you got and you got New England.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Denver's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
All right, Well, you were like, disagree with Denver. I
don't like Denver.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
I don't like Nicks.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
I think there. I think their defense is good. It's
not as good as the Texans.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yeah, but their offensive line, run game skill guys, like
all that is better in my opinion. Yeah, But like
like like their whole like offensive setup as much. I'll
take Nico Collins over something. The whole offensive setup is better.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
And well you're just.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Talking about their line. Let's hit well and play calling.
Their play calling is better, Like they have a better
play caller that that. I think that matters in the postseason. Yeah,
I'm I'm not a big fan of Knicks. I'm not
a big fan of that. And you could take Sean
Payton the all day long. I good coach. I look
and I agree. I'm not a big Sean Payton fan.

(50:10):
My my thing with Nicks is like if you can
get you know, ten percent better in the playoffs that
they're really live with AFC.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, I don't. I don't think so. Well, so we're
gonna go ahead to head you and I will go ahead.
I don't buy Houston at all. Just I mean, they're
not going to the fits. Are they gonna be the
defense travels?

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Baby, They're gonna go as a wildcard team on Super Bowl.
I like them. I'm just say, dude, I like them.
You know what, Walker, what's the last walkcard team to
go to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
I gotta think about it, dude. It's seven o'clock in
the morning, Tom Brady in twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Can I think about it for a second. Let's tell
you is Tom Brady in twenty twenty? That's who it was?
All right, there's a five seeds.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Well that was a that was the COVID year, right.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
It doesn't that doesn't count. Nothing counts for that season.
I'm just saying the walk Yeah, you know, walkcard teams
don't often go to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
So they win, they've got a revelation, Jimmy. But dude,
but I like their I don't have to tell you.
I love their defense. I love the way they're playing.
They're they're playing hot, and I'm not so sure that
they're not going to win the division. So you like
the Jaguars more than I do.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
I don't really particularly like the Jaguars. I don't love them,
but they I mean I think the I think they
the Texas can they're gay behind them.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Who's the tiebreaker there.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Right now?

Speaker 5 (51:29):
I know.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
They're they're both.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
I love the defense. I'm just I love defense.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
I love the schedules are pretty easy too. They have
like very very winnable games, like you know, the rest
of the way they didn't. I think both of them
have like one competitive game left in their schedule lost. Yeah.
So Jacksonville has the Broncos. That's a competitive game they have.
They have jets of Broncos, Colts, Titans, So that Broncos
game is gonna matter a lot. And I think Houston, Houston,

(51:58):
we know this weekend has Arizona. They have one other
tough game. I think Texans call the tie breaker. So
it's Cardinals, Raiders, Chargers, Colts for uh for the Texans. Uh.
So that Broncos game next week for Jacksonville will probably
matter for the division.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
And let's Philip Rivers lights it up, baby. That's that's
that's embarrassing. Light it up, buddy. I could not wager
enough on Seattle this weekend that that wager has been made,
it's been placed. What an embarrassment for the Colts. Really
super embarrassing. This is a This is Philip Rivers is

(52:38):
forty four years old. He has not played the game
in nearly five years, nearly five years. He he hasn't
played since the end of the twenty twenty season. And
you're gonna bring him in presumably he's gonna pu He's
gonna start this week. I don't know why else you
bring him in, right, supreme just just supremely embarrassing that

(52:59):
this is where they're at now, that Philip River is
gonna save your season. He's going you can play at
Seattle maybe the league's best defense. No, I know, dude,
I get it. I bet on Seattle is Richardson. They
killed them, man, just so do we believe that he
like the thing was I think with Richardson is that
he's I think he's probably fine. They just don't want

(53:20):
to play him. Yeah, yes, yes, Okay, we all got there. Okay,
same page. Uh, but let's get back to Bills and Patriots.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Because I love and by the way, but when i'm
you know, I'm being with the you know, hot takey.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
With my Texans.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
But I mean, like, if I'm want to, if I
want to take Bills and and Patriots are are both
you know, extremely live.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
I mean, they're both really good. I just don't by
the Bills run defense in the playoffs that I know
I worry about them, I do. I hear you, Josh
Allen dependent like on on.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
I know, if they had if they had more, they
just needed one all the weapon for them, like, you know,
ke Koleman just hasn't been that guy, Like you need
more than just thaltkkad.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Yeah, and Josh Allen's numbers that are like are insanely
good when you have kinkaid or someone who's out of
the lineup, which is you know, super important to note here. Yeah,
you just need another out, You just need another outside.
It's so Josh Allen dependent man, and I just I
don't know if I can can can buy them on
the whole with the way they're set up right now.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Or their run defense is uh suspect.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
So that's a nice way to put it. Correct.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Good there, they're paid. And then the Patriots, now let's
look at them for a second, because.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
God, they're just not ready for posting success yet in
my book.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
So, I mean, obviously, you know, I see where you're
coming from. So but I think we've seen that before,
Like we've seen the team come and and make a
run and look, Washington, you know, got with a game
in the Super Bowl last year.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
So the reason why it's hard to pick up the
Patriots to get to the Super Bowl is it's very
hard in your first year of postseason play to get
to get the super Bowl. It's very rare. Right, We've
seen guys in the year two. Everyone says, well, year two,
Drake may Well, sure, we've seen players, you know, Russell Wilson,

(55:36):
Big Ben in year two. The difference, obviously is they
went to the playoffs in year one like that a
little bit of experience in year one. This team has
no experience in the postseason, and that does concern because
I think I think that does matter to have you
have to have a little bit of experience in the postseason.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
In sometimes that sometimes sometimes you get a team that's
just ready. Like again, Washington, I'm going off at NFL
history like team, like I get it, but I get it.
But like, look at Washington last year. They're one game
from the super Bowl. Yeah, they were one full game
from the super Bowl. They got their butts up to

(56:11):
that game. Okay, but but they're one game like they
would one like they would you know, we're talking about
like we're talking about like can they can they get
the Super Bowl and win it?

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Right in this in this discussion, I don't think, I mean,
I don't know. Yeah, look, look New England, can it
can be the White Sea, the Rams, the best team?

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Yeah, they could.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Well, the thing about New England like they could they
can have the one seed to win one game and
be the Answer Championship game.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Like I don't.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
I don't think that's that's out of the question. The
question is can they win the answer Championshi game against
Houston or against Denver against the Bills. Again, I don't
know if I would take them to win that game.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
That's again when you're thinking about if you your mister
lines go Patriots, Uh, Patriots Denver? What's the line.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
In in the uh? Where in New England?

Speaker 2 (57:07):
New England?

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Yeah, Denver is probably favored by two, right, I would
take Patriots.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
But all right, but either way, it's inside, it's right
around pick them. You you would think Patriots would be
favored New England. Yes, I mean.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
They're Buffalo's favored today or tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
I should say it's the Bills effect. You over rate
the Broncos. My god, who which lay there?

Speaker 3 (57:38):
I mean the Broncos, I mean they're they're analytics. I
mean they're better than than Buffalo, which goes into this, right,
that's a part.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Of it, right, Okay, those analytics.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
But I'm just looking at DV O A E P
A like those are like, those are those matters?

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Okay, I look, I look at that team and I
go boat Nicks is a favorite in New England.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Look, I have problems with with the analytics this year
because the chiefs are OR six and dv AA and
they stink. So I don't. I don't like, I don't,
I don't do it.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
I listen, I'm with it, like there are things that
I I still you know what, I still don't know
why you know the the analytics that that I still
I've had it explained to me by GMS A thousands times.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
You're doing. I can't buy it? Yes, I guess, yeah,
going for two, thank you? Going for two down up seven?

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Right? Yeap?

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Or don't down down eight down eight, that's what it is, right,
going for to down eight?

Speaker 2 (58:40):
No, don't go for two down down, four down whatever,
all the number. It's all fun. It's all of last week.
It's all for Thursday.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
So you're down fourteen, you score to go down eight,
you go for two to go to six. Right, that's exactly,
Look I I it's quit simply this right, Like you
have a two point conversion temps are typically fifty to fifty, right,
And if you. I understand the math. I'm explained to
me a thousand times.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I don't buy the unless you're an offensive team that
really has great two point conversion plays.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
I just don't. I don't buy it. Atlanta won, though
they won? Why did they win because of the turnovers?
Very good?

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Talk about Tom boldof for he is he is for sure,
he's out the paint. He ain't gonna be there next year.
He knows that too. That's why I think it's one
of the tirade there. Why would be pissed off?

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Well, hold on, all right, we got to take a
quick time out. Let's talk about Todd on the other side.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Most coaches don't m f their team in the podium, but.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Sure I love toddat time I went to Temple together.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
He won't.

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Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Speaking of the NBA, JEF, It's one team league. I
know you bring up Denver. You have this, you have
a people devor should love you man, You're a Denver
up this morning Broncos Nuggets.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
I mean they took them with seven last year and
they're better now, so yeah, I think, okay, she's better. Okay,
she's starting five, could probably be a starting group in
the NFL. You know, in the NBA, I should say, like, no,
they're they're really good too. Yeah okay, see, second team
would win the East, so obviously I make a lot
of money if Okay, he keeps winning. I think Denver

(01:02:24):
is not a bad pick. If you're still looking the
wayser on winning the West, you can't think okay, see now,
so I think they got to I think the NBA
is problem. What's the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
That you're gonna have one team located in Oklahoma City
that is so far better than everybody else, well they
mutter than everybody else.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
They'd be created a ton of this mess with this,
with this apron stuff for teams, kids can't get better.
So okay, so he just had a bunch of draft
picks that hit and they're able to pay them. And
that's just the way that the league is right now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
I don't deir Coffers filled right and draft picks correct.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
More draft picks and more draft picks, and more draft
picks I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Mean it's the greatest front office job in the history
of sports.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
So yeah, look it's it's okay see your buzz. I mean, dude.
The thing that what creates about them too is like
you can get such value on them. In game a
couple of weeks ago, they were losing to the Jazz
by sixteen in the first quarter, and uh, I was
able to get okay see minus seven after the first quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
They won the game by forty. Yeah, when they win
every game by like forty, So.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Like the value of like that is, like, dude, it's awesome,
Like you get so much value, okay see, because the
way they that they play, well, well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Let's talk about it, like forget the betting for stamp
for a second. From a competitive standpoint from the league,
like the health of the league. It's not good to
have a team I think head and sholders above everybody else.
You like that, I don't think I only never could

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beat them, so.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Well, the thing is you need in sports, you need
a villain in my opinion, to be to drive ratings
and people to root against. And okayc he's going to
get in a villain territory, especially with the way SJ.
Plays and the way that they officiate him. I think
people do not like it, and I think it's good

(01:04:24):
for the NBA. If you have a team like this,
everyone roots against in essence, right, and everyone's upset about
and there's talking about I mean, look, every time every
time okay See plays, my at least my social media
feed is just is filled with people showing clips of
like SJ barely being touched and being called you know,
and the foul being called right, and like there's a
I think there's a growing resentment of the way he's

(01:04:48):
treated by fans in the NBA, and I think that
actually helps ratings. It helps people watch because they're rooting
for them to lose. Like that's a part of sport, right.
People watch the Patriots want them to lose for years.
People watch the Cheeks want them lose for years. I'm
curious if the ratings net that out over the years,
if okay See does become some sort of dynasty here.

(01:05:09):
But I do think I do think people are hate
watching okay See. I will hate watch them at some point. Yeah,
I don't know. They officiate him so he's so soft,
it's so soft. It's it's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Dude, I love his mid rage game.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
It's great, but he gets a lot of foul calls
that are like, I think the kids ball are bad.
Let's not disagree with that. I think that's complained why.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
People are gonna watch because of it though kid Kid
bawls out. Man, my man, my man balls out. I
love that, Sha.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
I gotta tell you, I got no sympathy for like
I think this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
I I think that team is just so much better
than anybody else. And I I hear you on the
hate Watch, but I don't know, man, I you need
you need. You said something that I think is right.
You need a villain, but you need somebody that can
beat the villain. If o case he's a villain. I
don't think they're a villain type of team. But whatever,

(01:06:16):
because they're gonna win so much, people will resent that.
I mean, I don't know. I think you're you're looking
at a run, a major run.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Just because they have that all those picks. Yeah, who uh,
who's the who? Again? Like, who's the the team to
probably to throw them would only be denver. I know
what in the East is doing it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Know what the East is closed?

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Yeah, I mean, I'll agree with you that Denver's probably the.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Only team that could play with him.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Yeah, but even then, I don't I don't think I
think that was an anomly. I think now that they're
that they're rolling. I think they beat Denver, you know,
five or six? Yeah, I mean Denver. They're rolling right
now like they're you watch them play like they've hit
it peaked out right, like they got over their hump

(01:07:13):
last year and now they're just they're just nasty.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
I dude, I do disagree. And again, like if you're
in the wagering purposes, like they're a good team and
just live wager man, it's like it's fun to wait
drop on them, and I got that that big befom.
They continue to win game. This win games finally me, man,
can win as many games as you want. And then
too like they they want this record too, by the way,

(01:07:38):
Yeah I would too. Yeah, like to care to play?

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
No, it's just history. You want to make history. This
is history. This is awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
I listen.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
I have to tell you, I I I love that team,
like I like the players, I love their work ethic,
I love.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Play though personally I just can't stand it watching Chet play.
It's too soft. You can't do it, all right, Well
that's j is fun to watch their team is fun.
I like I like to play defense. Ches's just too
soft for me. Man, I can't do it. I just
can't do it. I just can't. I just I can't.
I can't. I can't. You can't be that big and

(01:08:21):
like get out rebounded by dudes in the paints.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
You know that's what he kind of what he is.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Well, I know, just like you like take a rebound
off the rim for once, can you do it just
one time for me?

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Yeah? Well no, I'm asking the flaw on the player
like he's a face the basket dude, Why.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
No, I can I get it? It can still bother me,
all right. I understand what. I understand what he is.
I just like like once, you know, like well, like
a small gust of wind can blow him over. I can't.
I just can't do it. I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Yeah, but like you have to have a basis of
expect of expectations. No, not total like it like you
know like when you go in, you watch it, you
watch the kid play, you know you know what he is,
like you know what he is coming out of cope
like you know what he kid is like, he's a
face basket player and that's what he is. Like. He's
not going to turn into a tough guy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
I understand. Let's I don't like it, all right. He
entertained my opinion on this. I understand all the variables here.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
All right, all right, all right, all right, let's get
back to the NFL. So the Eagles have lost three straight,
have they? They didn't know they opened up the offense
last week and Jalen threw four.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Picks that that was opening up the offense. Well, you
saw them go in between the numbers downfield. So their
offense is just all kind of messed up. Sometimes you
watch the routes, You're like, what are we doing here?
What is this guy's in the same place? No one

(01:10:14):
breaking off for hats or sites, no run or reason.
They're doing things just kind of like and I think, look,
Jalen Hurts is, I don't know what the right wad
He's just he's not He's a he's a a player
at that position at quarterback who has limitations compared to

(01:10:35):
his peers, right, And we're seeing that on a weekly
basis when things just aren't going as well as they
have in the past. He's just not the player who's
good enough at that position, I think to make it right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
For his team.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
And like that's sort of like the thing we've all
said about Hurts like winner, good guy, like all those
things are. When it's great, it's great. When it's not,
it's just not good. And he's like not a guy
that it seems, at least right now, to be able
to overcome when things are not perfect and when the
offense line isn't good anymore, and when the run game

(01:11:13):
is is non existent, and so again, I don't I
think the OC is not helping. I think the OC
is very you know, not good. I do love, by
the way, when there's a scandal in uh in sports
and people tweet out like, hey, Michigan, I heard Kevin
Petula is also talking to an intern, like you can
fire him too. Like those tweets to me, I just

(01:11:34):
love those are like they're very funny. And that's like
all eagle stands are like, hey, hey Michigan, Like this
guy's also causing problems. Come get rid of him too.
Uh OC just not good enough in Philly? Is none
of it's good enough right now? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Well, you know there's a there's a couple of things.
One the O C c OC and you know he's
been This is been an issue going on for a
long time. It predates Patulo. This offense. The best it

(01:12:10):
looked was in twenty two. That was the year they
went to the Super Bowl loss to Kansas City. That
was a year that they were a true RPO offense.
And Hertz's was great, right because they were going downhill.

(01:12:30):
He had movement, he had throwing lanes. Teams really struggled
to defend the RPO. And once they figured out how
to defend the RPO, this offense started to stall. I
mean even last year, as dominant as they were, it

(01:12:50):
was because of the run game. Yeah, I mean they were.
I mean Saqua was hitting the home runs like we
never saw. Out of the run game, their pass game
was still bogged down. And if you recall the first
four games of the season last year, they struggled.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
There were two and two.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Syriana was about to be fired until they went all right,
well let's just kind of make us a downhill run team.
And so the pass game has had issues. We got
to take quick too, but the pass games that issue
for years. So a three dates. Patullo is the issue.
Let's take a quick to you. We'll continue the conversation

(01:13:30):
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Haleyon assist dot com. So we're just talking about the
NFC a little bit. In the Eagles and what to do.
There was a report Jeremy Follon from ESPN said the
teams are expecting Howie Roseman to draft a quarterback. They

(01:14:38):
also have Tanner McKee. It'll be interesting to see how
the story ends. Of twenty twenty five. I mean, you're
not gonna bench Jalen now, I mean, that would be foolish.
You're not gonna do that. You do that, you lose them.
You're not gonna do that. So you're gonna try to
kind of get him through this spell. Can you win
by being a I have a great defense? Can you

(01:15:01):
win by playing ultra conservative? Is that possible? Jeff No,
I don't think so. I also don't believe they're drafting
a quarter It's not a good quarterback year in the
first I mean it's not even the first round. Is
not even a great opportunity. You're not gonna have one
probably this year.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
I don't. I don't totally buy that, to be honest
with you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
But well I buy this. They're gonna look for a
project quarterback to develop. Sure, sure, so how he always
does that and it hurts. Isn't the quarterback next year?
If something happens and Jalen's not here, they do have
it and out in.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
The sure, but they also, I mean, the key would
be the guy. I mean, you know, but a lot
of teams do that. Though that's not like any that's
not like in my opinion of reportable news, like the
Patriots did that every two years after the quarterback in
the third round, like yeah, I got you, Yeah, I
feel yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
I mean it was a Jeremy report, but it was
it's more salacious when the starter is struggling, right, So
that's why it was reported that way.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
I just I don't think you can you can be
conservative like that and win a It has to be
a very very specific way to win when you do that.
And I don't think that's the Eagles right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Now now what they're lying the way it is because
you got to lean in the run game, like you know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
And Lane is just you know that. It's funny the
splits for the Eagles when Layane plays and doesn't play.
It's a big, big difference in that when when that
happens to by the way, which again I don't know
how much.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Well, he'll be back next week. He was going to
be back this week, but you got a little set back.
He'll be back next week.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
How is not He's not He's making all the rest
of the season. That's my concern too. He's just the age.
I mean, you know it beat up. I mean the
hopes like yeah and uh and so yeah, I don't
think so. I just think the Rams are a lot
better right now and they're just a complete team at
the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Yeah, I look, it's gonna be fun to see Rams
and Lions on Sunday. The question is, like, man, with
that secondary banged up the way it is, good lines
just get just crushed every year now, it seems. But
with that secondary banged up, what staff are going to do?

(01:17:27):
My god, he's on fire with Pooka last week. Anytime
you're inside the five, Davante wins every route.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
You know, it's it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
He's unstoppable inside you know, inside the five yard line.
They're gonna put up a lot of points.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
They are. So this number is interesting because there's a
couple of numbers this week where you're like, really, that's
that's the number, this one right, like in this in
this game, you're like, wait that the number is is?
Uh is six? Six? And you realize how all the
Rams are playing on the line's injuries, and you're like, yeah, okay,
six makes sense. Actually, like the Rams at six, I mean,

(01:18:09):
I'm in on that. So that's that's you know that
that's a The Rams are just that much better than
the lines right now?

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, I don't know, I don't
know how you do. I don't know how. I'm with you.
I don't know how you do it. You know, I
don't know how you do it. Yeah, I mean, because
I look at that Rams offense. It's just incredible, right,
Like Stavords is when he's healthy, I mean, you know,

(01:18:46):
is he could put it through a mouse fall. But
then you got those two receivers. I mean, you know, man,
they're tough. They're really tough. Uh. And then elsewhere in
the NFC, I mean, Thursday night's gonna be fascinating because
that's the rematch of Rams in Seattle.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
So I wish this game was I wish this game
was a Sunday game because I feel like this would
be a game where both teams gonna full way to
prepare for the game, you know, between Stantle and Los Angeles.
I hate it's Thursday night. I just I just it
just feels like in a game where it determines maybe
the one seed the division, I wish they could play

(01:19:27):
when they're both like fully prepared for an entire week
of practice.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Yeah yeah, I agree that level of game at this
juncture of the year, it should be on a full week.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
I agreed.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
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over everything from a betting standpoint. I know it's Jeff's favorite,

(01:21:34):
Jeff and the Brain. It's a mutual love going on
right there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
I had Stephen F. Austin last night, and I woke
up this morning to see a late field goal by
Montana State to ruin that wager. So not not fun.
It was an FCS playoff betas stuff. Well, today I got,
I got. I got Army Navy first quarter under seven
and a half. How about that?

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Usually an I'm the rights for last year went over? Yeah, yeah,
anything with your Boise in Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
I like Bois's date plus ten. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
The only trick for these ball games, it's got to
figure out who's playing correct.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
Well, so here's the way I look at bowl games.
You have to target a couple of things. One is
who's playing. We just don't know. You have a sort
of guess. But but more importantly than me, it's about
motivation and coaching staff. So I'll give you two bets
I've made so far. The numbers moved San Diego State
I got plus six against North Texas. So North Texas

(01:22:37):
loses the American Conference CHAMPIONIP game, right, so they were
they were gonna go to the playoff. They won that game.
Not only did they lose that, they they they lost big. Okay,
their coach left, their quarterbacks probably leaving. What motivation do
they have to play in a ball game in San
Diego State, I don't think very much. Where the Aztecs

(01:22:57):
had a great season under Sean Lewis, they're highly motivated
to win this bowl game and finished our years strong.
They don't have it any if opt outs probably right,
no one's transferring at the moment, right, I in this
game goes off at a pick them. I got plus Still,
you can still find three. Those are games to target, right.

(01:23:18):
Louisville hosting a Memphis team that's just new coach, right,
didn't finish very strong. Louisville just won forty one. Le
excuse me. They're facing Toledo. I'm sorry, Toledo's coach left
to Yukon. I just think there's no motivation for Toledo
in this game, right, Like I just just there's just none.
So those are the opportunities, in my opinion, to target in.

(01:23:41):
Uh in these in these bowl games, that makes sense. Yeah,
it feels early. But today it is ridiculous that there
is a bowl game tonight. Well you know, it's wild.
It's like it's on right, Like you got a game tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
And by the way, on ABC at prime time children,
where sports is at that? It's ABC prime time on
a Saturday night. Boys, you Washington. After that, you got
games Tuesday night, you got the Veterans Sloop, the Veterans Bowl. Wednesday,
you got two bawls, The Man the Staff, DNA Cure

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Bawl and the and the Ventures Bowl. Thursday you got
a bawl. Friday, you got two in the afternoon. And
then the playoffs start. Alabama Oklahoma in the rematch, Bama
is one and a half in the rematch.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
Yeah, the rematch is to me the first game. Uh
do you ever look at a postgame with expectancy by
any chance? College? So basically that's just you know, if
you just look at the raw numbers of the game. Okay,
I look at the role.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
I look at the numbers like you know, I look
at I look at first down, time, possession, turnovers.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Okay, So if you just take so the post game
will win expectancy. It's just about looking at the numbers
as they are and determining who should have won the
game based off the numbers correct, Like, that's all it is. Okay,
So I do that in the old school.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
I look at yardage.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
Ye yeah, yeah, Okay. So Alabama that lost that game
twenty three to twenty one had a postgame win expectancy
of ninety five percent out played Oklahoma. Turnovers doomed them, right,
So what about this game is any different? Oklahoma can't

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score an offense, they shock on offense. I'm not really
as concerned about the home field advantage here for Oklahoma.
I think I think a lot of these teams are
pretty used to playing road games, Like Alabama went to
Georgia won this year. I don't really don't. I don't
really think that that's a big of an issues we
make it out to me. Now, maybe the weather would be,
but I think I think I saw it supposed to
be sixty seven degrees or sixty five degrees, so that

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that that's not a problem for Alabama. I don't know
why this game is any different than the first game,
other than Alabama just wins because they're better, Like they
played better the first game and just didn't. They just
didn't win the game because of turnovers. If you eliminate
two of those turnovers, the game is Albama win by
a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Yeah, I look at it the same way. The problem
is is that Oklahoma's got no offense. It can't go
down the field. No, you know, and I love Oklahoma's defense,
but it'll break. It's going to break.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
So thinking about defense, We've talked about this before. It's
it's important. Note here you know what's a good example
of this, Chiefs Texans from from last week. But I'll
give you the thing. So you know, defense is an
emotional position, right, A lot of emotion on defense. Offense
is less emotional, right, it's a it's a controlled it's

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more controlled control, right, you playner control. Defense is more emotion, right,
it's like physicality and violence. And so you do an
offense too like your reactionary right. I think the defense
needs a lot more support from the offense, and the
offense needs support from the defense, right, Like our job

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on offense is to score as many points as possible
all the time. Correct, And no matter how about the
defense is playing, we can go out and fix it
by scoring points. Right, Defensively, if you don't get help
from the offense over sixty minutes, it's very hard to
play as good as you can without some help, right
because eventually you're gonna have you because it's field position too,

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like that's part of it too. But also you know defense,
you're on the field too long, right, that that tends
to affect the defense. And we saw last week with
Kansas City they were playing great on defense until that
fourth down, and then when you don't feel like you're
being supported by the offense, you just have a little
bit of a letdown. You just naturally just happens all
the time. So for Oklahoma, if they can, if their

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offense can't help them in this game over sixty minutes,
you just get tired, you get frustrated, you don't play
as hard. Now you break, not on purpose, of course,
but you break. So that's a to me, that's a
way to preview some of these games where you look
at and you say, look, but the defense is great,
but can the offense support them a little bit? And
I only Ohoma can do that right now, So I

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lean Alabama in this game. I'm curious what the brain thinks,
not and that with tears hand the way it is,
he's not been the same since he came back. Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Yes, yeah, then Saturday, so the best games of the
day is at noon.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
The first one.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
Yeah, it's A and M in Miami, which I love
A and M in that game.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
Oh I like Miami. Okay, well you do? Oh good? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Yeah, I love that and M.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
So we haven't we haven't done this discussion yet, but
we talked a little bit the playoff earlier. So you know,
there's anger, of course with these two group of five
teams being in. And here here's the thing, guys, the
way it worked out this year is Acy's fault. But
they had to put to it right just the way
it was formatted. It is what it is. That you
can't change it. So let's not be angry about that.

(01:29:33):
The problem with the group of five teams being in, okay,
is whatever you say, these games are going to be blowouts.
The counter that is, well, we had blow us last
year and we've had over the years. The difference, of course,
it's a big difference, okay, is that we went into
the game where Tennessee played Ohio State believing that could

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be a close game. We previewed that game believing it
could be a close game. I I don't know how
to preview Oregon jmu. I don't Jamie's defense is good.
I get it. Every player who starts on Oregan's offense
is the best player at that position that James Madison's
played in the entire season. Like the center, it's the

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best center. They played the tight end the best time,
and they played the backup wide receiver is the best
wide receiver they played all season. How do I preview
a game where this is the best James Madison is
seeing the entire season, where for Oregon this is the
seventh defense they played like James Madison this season. You know,

(01:30:36):
like I can't earnestly preview that game because of this.
I don't know. And I'm not saying you have to
change the platform because I can't preview the game. But
it's a legitimate thing, like how do you preview old
miss dude?

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
Now, you're right, listen, it's about drumming up interested excitement,
and you can't. It's too lopsided, one sided. And here's
the issue is the NFL starts playing on Saturdays, yeah,
next week, No, it's next week. Next week it's Eagles
Washington and Green Bay Chicago.

Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
Which is a great Eagles Washington obviously is a different,
you know, different, different thing now. But I mean, like
I'm looking at the but but hear me out, So
whatever you figu about Eagles Washington, that's a five o'clock start,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
The night game, which would go up against Oregon and
Chulane is Bears Packers.

Speaker 3 (01:31:32):
That's a that's a great game. That's interesting, Remats, it's
the whole thing. That's really a cold weather. It could
be snow, like only you will be watching Oregon. James Madison,
I'm watch so like I'm looking at at the roster
right now for for jam you look the starting roster right,
so they're starting left def it'sive tackle, okay, is six

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feet six feet tall. The left tackles six foot tall. No, no, no,
the left the starting defensive tackle, defensive defensive tackle right
is is six feet two ninety. Their other defensive tackle
is six two two eighties. That's a little bit better.
But like it's just their physically, I just don't know

(01:32:16):
how to like what their line look like. So like
their left tackle is six six three twenty. That's good
the left guard. I'm againing this. I think this is
the right six to two. He's six to two, uh three,
three point thirty. I'm unconcerned about them scoring any point.

(01:32:36):
I think James j James Madison is not going to score.
They're total th think thirteen and a half. I don't
think they're gonna score and anything. I don't. I don't.
I'm not gonna score very much. I can't pass. They
can't pass the ball then, But.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
That's the shame of it, Like it's the playoffs and
you got this ridiculous I don't even know why it
was it was written up this way.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
Well, I think they never thought that situation where like
you just don't have a group of you know, you
just don't have like someone. You just don't expect there
to be a situation where no one like is they
just just can't do it. I mean, like my gold

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is to watch them JMU film just to gain just
to get a general sense of like where they're at.
I guess I don't. I feel bad. I feel it's
not their fault. This is that I feel this way. Look,
I just put the like I just put on the
Washington State game, because I think that at least I
could get a little bit. Like Washington has some bigger bodies,
and like they're starting defensive line. One of their d

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their d end is six one two forty.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
Another guy gets six two two eighty. Their nose tackle
is six feet six one three point fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
The other guy who's playing down the box looks like
you're like, in he's got in line. I was on
the left guard is number fifteenyear. I'm looking at the
roster right here. He ain't very big. So you know,
just again like it's just it's this is what it's
not even on the roster right now. He might have
got hurt. Uh, It's just there's not big enough to

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compete in this game.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
It's like it's that's something that's the problem, and that's
the problem with It's not basketball. Like you know, listen,
you could have Cinderella and you know, one out of
every you know, ten times you'll beat you know, Caroline
or whatever, Duke. It doesn't happen to football because of

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what you're talking about, because the line play, you just
can't have that. We saw that with teams like Louisville.
Remember when Louisville went like we saw that, We've seen
it historically, like there's you're not you can't have Cinderella
in football doesn't work.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
People will point to you, see if being all in
a bowl game, it's not the same thing as a
playoff game, It's not. It's not it's Auburn loss as
the championship game that year. It's just not the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
This is.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
This is just a much different It's just much different.
It's not the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
No, it's it's not even close. And because you had that,
you had that one blue snow like. It really frustrates
me because I love the playoffs. I love the whole thing,
and I feel like we got cheated. And this is
this was what rankled me about Notre Dame. It's not

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about being a Notre Dame fan, because I'm not. You know,
I like them, but I'm not a fan. And here's
the thing. I just feel cheated as a college football
fan that I don't get them a team that I
think is third I have as a third but you know,
arguably anywhere from three, four, five best team in the

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country that makes the playoffs more interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:36:06):
I totally agree. Yeah, so I don't want to see
Alabama Oklahoma again. I have no desire of that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
Yeah, they screwed this thing up, geez, just a million
ways for Sunday. It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
Now I'm gonna go back redo the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
And then the other thing that they're gonna have to
do is these that conference championship weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
They have to change that whole structure of it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
So I do wonder if Conference Championship weekend will eventually
just become a play in game for for like the
Big Ten in sec like like to choose a fourth
team or something. That's why I think we're heading too well,
by the way, that makes sense to me. Yeah, you

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don't you set luke warm on it. No, I think
it's I just don't know what iteration it's gonna be,
I think, But I do think it's gonna happen, Yes,
And and you want it to happen, correct. I do
like it would be us Michigan playing for the like
a playoff spot for the Big Ten this week? It
was what you know what it would have been, right,
all right? Because that that to me, that's what it

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has to be, is something like that. I got to
tell you I mean I look at it and I go,
you know, why else do you playing?

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
It was nice seeing the adda winning game and I
watched it, but it didn't mean anything, correct, you know.
I mean that's that's an issue. And then I don't know,
do you think that they're going to somehow incorporate all
the balls too, or at least some of them? No, No,
that will always remain separate.

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
I didn't. I think we're gonna lose. I think we're
gonna lose a lot of balls. Yeah, I think the
main step and maybe like that, you know, maybe a
holiday bowled alimble bowl get wrapped.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
In there's money, though, I still don't know you're gonna
lose balls if there's money.

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
Well, because people still watch them. Correct, But so like
the Fiesta and well no, not the big balls. So
like the Alamobile, the holiday ball will become part of
like the expanded playoffs. What you're saying, yes, yeah, it's
fair to say, Yeah, that's fair. I mean it just
kind of makes sense to me.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
All Right, we'll take a quick too, we'll come back,
the brain will join us, and we'll kind of sus
out the college landscape. We'll lead with army Navy because
we got to talk a little bit more Army Navy
about the game and you know what we think. And
then of course we'll go through the ball game that

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What do you say, Labraine, Hey.

Speaker 8 (01:40:38):
Good morning, Good morning to you, my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
How are you all right?

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
Always fun we Jeff and I chopping up and always
great talking football. And it's a great time of the year.
So Army Navy today. How do you look at at
this game?

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
Buddy?

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
It's an iconic I love Army Navy game. I loved
it when we were kids because you're from Stup like
I am. And when it was played the VET and
you saw all the servicemen in town for the whole
week leading up to the game.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
I loved it.

Speaker 8 (01:41:13):
Yeah, Like it's funny. It's one of the things that
was on my bucket list. And I've been there a
few times and it's recommended to anyone to go, oh, look,
Navy's had a great year. I mean, they really had
a really really nice season. Line sitting at six and
a half MAB, I just can't. And it's interesting this
game went over under Anta fourteen straight years, and now

(01:41:33):
it's gone over the last three years. It's two oho
to one to the over Look. They had a really
good win over South Florida. I respect quite a bit,
but it just seems like whenever these two teams play,
it just seems like these games are just always so tight.
And I'm just heading into lay six and a half
points in a game when it just seems like whenever
these two teams play, there's a like a magnet makes

(01:41:56):
them close together. Lean here to the dog. But I
do respect, maybe I think they're a good team, just
the rivalry factor. It just makes me lean to the
dog because she's like, whenever they play, these games are tight.

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
I like, first quarter under seven and a half points.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
Do you agree with me?

Speaker 8 (01:42:14):
I do, because again, one of the things about that
is again it takes obviously, you know, it takes two scores,
and obviously the second quarter and fourth quarter of the
most highest scoring quarters because you're not going to get
any hurry up offense, Jeff in like quarter number one
at all, and you're going to need a touchdown to
beat you factually, which may not happen. And the field
goal it's again, yes, I do agree with you. I

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think it's uh. I would much rather have that than
under in the game total, because I think that actually
is a much better play.

Speaker 3 (01:42:41):
I also quickly the other Bowl game tonight, I like
Boise getting ten.

Speaker 8 (01:42:45):
I know Bowl games are up big number, very big number.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
Yeah, Washington does not play as good away from home.
There's like no motivation really for Washington this game. And
that's where I bet Bowl games a lot motivation. I
don't think Boise is a ton of optime mean, left
tackle is not playing, but otherwise I think anyone else
is playing. I like Boise getting ten points tonight. Am
I crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:43:08):
I don't think you're and I don't think you're crazy
at all, and I don't would tell you. But what's
Boise's motivation though? Either, I mean you can say that
probably about both situation.

Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
The motivation is they're playing a power a power conference team,
and I think I think, I think, I think though,
I think Mound West teams and group of five teams
really care about beating these big boys.

Speaker 8 (01:43:26):
Sure. Well, you know what's interesting? What is Washington dumb
this year? I have to be honest, like, this is
a game I would actually like Boise with the money
line too. What is the ten playing favorite thing? Well, no,
think about this. They're saying, this is almost impossible for
Boise to win. I don't think I've seen anything out
of Washington this year at all to make me think
there's some behemoth that that can't be beaten. I think

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these teams are in the same weight class. Yeah, I
think Boise getting cans too many points.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
I mean they did play. I mean they played Oregon tough.

Speaker 8 (01:43:56):
They got out played thoroughly.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
Yeah, and they I mean they kept it close.

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
The final scores alone miss leading because of it is
and there it's thirty three fourteen no no, but.

Speaker 8 (01:44:06):
But also in fairness, in fairness, I actually had Washington
in that game and I lost. But they they got
out played, like they couldn't move the ball offensively at all. Yeah,
I mean I thought Oregon was clearly in control of
the entire way in my opinions at least. But obviously, look,
that's a tough game. You know, of course Oregon should
beat them, and they did, but I'm just saying, and

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all their big games this year, I felt like Washington
really was very block when they stepped up in class.
Not that they're stepping up in class here that they're not,
but I just don't think there's a huge difference between
these two teams.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
All right, let's uh, let's move over to the NFL.
All right, So we've been talking a lot about New
England Buffalo. How do you approach the rematch?

Speaker 8 (01:44:54):
Well, you know, and to me, it's it's interesting, like
I feel like sometimes Sister Power rated based on how
they is supposed to be before the year started, and
there's just there's just not going to be an adjustment.
Like to me, again, I think New England has been
better than Buffalo all season. I don't understand why they're
an underdog here. I really don't. I thought New England

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should be a slight favorite. Again, I made a line
like New England vibe two. It came in Buffalo, I
think one one and a half right now. I like
the New England try. I think they've been the better
team all year, and I think Buffalo is a flawed
team that's the best player in the NFL. But I
think that this is one of the rare matchups where
there's a quarterback that can at least stand up with

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him and not be totally outplayssed. I think May is terrific.
I think New England wins this one. I mean it'll
be a high scoring New England win.

Speaker 3 (01:45:45):
Buffalo's defencse. I just I just don't trust speak about
like power, power ratings. I I I get how they work.
I don't get the Chiefs love. I still don't get
it that I'll cover in five weeks. Yeah, now maybe
close to cover, and they've won one to last five
games haw Man close to covering. I know the Charge
have their own problems. I get it, but five and

(01:46:05):
a half man just feels like I don't get it.
I'm on the Chargers here. I think the Charge win
this game. I don't know why the Chiefs have this
trust they're not the same team this season.

Speaker 8 (01:46:16):
Well, yeah, Jeff Alenter like this, and Anthony is obviously
a huge Philly guy, and so the Eagles people just
want to keep thinking that their offense is good because
they won the Super Bowl last year and they different
for seven ten straight weeks. They keep showing you their
offenses not great, but they continue to get respective being
in this elite offense which people must not watch them

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play offensively. The Chief's kind of similar situation. But I
in this pigular game, Jeff, I, and this is maybe
more of an anti Charger play to me. I think
the Chargers are another team that is just a one
man band at the highest level.

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
At their own line. God, they have no tackles.

Speaker 8 (01:46:57):
Yeah, I actually think Jeff, this is going to be
a win by margin on the green with you the
line teams high based off the resumes. I will not
argue that if you just put the resumes again, this
is two teams putting at the resumes, you'd say that
the Chiefs are the inferior team, let alone lank five
and a half points. But I just think that Chargers
are one of the most overachieving teams in football, and

(01:47:19):
I just think they're gonna have a hard time here,
I really do. I don't trust their passing game right
now at all. They can't protect Herbert. I just think
it's a they not get injuries. Jeff. I actually would
have been very really like to see what happened to
the Chargers team, and they're gonna go to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
I can't. The Chiefs can't rush the passer either.

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
Though.

Speaker 3 (01:47:36):
The Chiefs can't rush the passer and are down three
offens linemen as well.

Speaker 8 (01:47:38):
I just don't yeh. I know they didn't well last
week though, But Jeff, I will say this last week
last week, especially in that second half, especially with Jones,
I think we saw for the first time in a
little while, they were able to rush the passer again.
Maybe it was just one game.

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
Against use pressures anyway, against the against them, he's gonna.

Speaker 8 (01:47:57):
I don't trust. I don't trust the Chargers to score here.
It's that simple. I think the Chiefs defense will have
success against the Chargers because I don't think the Chargers
have anything offensively at all except the great quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:48:11):
Yeah. I don't like them.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
I don't like them. I don't like I hate their offensive.
They're gonna lie just just bagged up. Jeff and I
have been a big battle in today.

Speaker 8 (01:48:21):
Well the Eagles give you watch Eagles game, Jeff, I
mean like that was again. If you're an Eagles fan.
After if you're a Eagles player and you Jeff, you
played in the league for a lot a lot of years.
I'm sure there was games that you walked off that
field thing. How the heck do we lose that game?
We're so much better this game. You're so frustrated if
you watch that Eagles Chargers game. I mean, I don't
know if I'm an Eagle player, especially on the defensive
side of the ball. I can't even look Eagles offense

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in the face. And I can't even look at them
ever again, because I would be so angry knowing that
we dominated that game at such a high level but
fall turnfoards from the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
I just couldn't.

Speaker 8 (01:48:55):
It would just I'd be angry to no end. And
I just think the Chargers are very limited.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
But we'll see. Let's keep it going, because Jeff and
I agree with this.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
One man Rams Lions. How Lion's going to stop the
Rams right now?

Speaker 8 (01:49:16):
Yeah, I don't you know. I said, I think it's
going to be score, score and score some more. I
like the old Jeff. I don't know what you've done
on this. I think if I had to pick one matchup,
it would be the highest scoring total of any game
this year. I would pick this exact matchup. I have
no doubt Detroit's going to score at least in the twenties,
at least I think. But I think the Rams really
may hit forty here. I actually really believe that. I

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don't think they any prayer of getting any stops here.

Speaker 3 (01:49:40):
I like the Rams minus six. I just don't really
I don't. I don't think the lines again stops. I
think the Rams defense is fine. I just don't the Lions.
You know, without Laporta, the Cowboys defenses is not good.
I don't really judge the Lions offense based off of that.
I agree another game. I as soon as I saw

(01:50:01):
the Philip Rivers news, I ran to the nearest sports.
It took Seattle a minus thirteen and a half. I
just do Seattle out of all the teams are big favorites.
They continue to dominate his big favorites, like this is
what they've done all season. Their defense is going to
make Philip Rivers wish he never decided to play football again.

(01:50:21):
I'm absolutely fine taking Seattle here. I'm laying at thirteen
and a half. Am I crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
Well?

Speaker 8 (01:50:27):
First of all, not, Jeff, I respect your opinion a lot.
I know you're extremely good with this. Now, I absolutely
don't think you're crazy. But that being said, it's a
stay away from me. Look they're treating Jeff, tell me
if you agree they're treating See, I'm sorry, Indianapolis like
they're a bottom fourteen. I can't say Indianapolis is a
bottom four team. I just I can't get that far.

(01:50:47):
I can't. And again, here's the thing, And maybe I'm naive, Jeff,
And you know this way burying me having played in
the league and you've seen when guys come in for
workouts or whatnot. I understand Philip Rivers hasn't played since
nineteen oh two. I get it, But would they really
sign him Jet if he came in there and just
looked like he had nothing? I I just don't know

(01:51:07):
why they would do that if you looked like he
was at inept. I just I've seen so many bad quarterbacks,
Like watching Brady Cook last week for the Jets was like,
oh my god, I.

Speaker 3 (01:51:18):
Just you're watching again this week?

Speaker 8 (01:51:20):
Yeah, exactly. I just I don't know, Jeff, I I
I just a lot of points to me. I want
to ask you a quick thing on next week is
the game I'm really gears a well, because we're gonna
I think the game's Thursday. They play the Rams. Look ahead,
mine is pick them. I like Seattle, I don't. I
think Seattle is better in the Rams. I've had him
ready to ahead of them all year. I still haven't
ready to ahead of them and the games in Seattle.
That's gonna be a big bet for me next week.

(01:51:42):
But we're getting ahead of myself. But we're not gonna
be in the here next week. But I like Seattle
over the Rams next week.

Speaker 3 (01:51:47):
I just don't trust Donald in the big games. Still.
That's it. That's that's that's my thing. I just I
just don't. I'd rather stay away from the game than
be on sound on a big game.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
I agree with Jeff, I'm with you. Let me ask
both of you guys. Cowboys Minnesota Sunday night. I mean,
I think the Cowboys went by double digits. I think
they flex against that team.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
I don't. I think that line is really low.

Speaker 8 (01:52:23):
Rain definitely be on the Dallas side of empty. But again,
let's just keep it fair. Like Dallas is one of
those teams where you know they're just one of those
teams I'm never gonna trust against inferior opponents because I
think it's anyone. They're the kind of team to me,
they could look like it's the best team in any
week given week and look like the Arizona game from
what just three weeks ago or whatever it was, where

(01:52:43):
they lost by twenty to Arizona. I think they should
beat Minnesota. I don't trust McCarthy at all. He finally
had an OK game, But to me, it's easy Dallas
for pass.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
So I'm so glad that we don't talk about Dallas'
defense being good anymore because they're not good. I never
understood this idea. Quinn Williams makes someone like he's a
de tackle.

Speaker 4 (01:53:04):
What are you doing here?

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
Is an Aaron Donald? Their defense stinks is thirty first
and DVOA, and it showed when they give forty four
the Lions. The defense is atrocious still just because Kansas
City they still score twenty eight. By the way, did
the Chiefs in Dallas didn't finish that game? Their Dallas
defense is terrible. You cannot lay it with Dallas in
this game because who's stopping Justin Jefferson. I know McCarthy

(01:53:27):
might turn into whatever he was who slapped Justin Jefferson.
What did I miss justin Jefferson's big year with no quarterback?
The Cowboys don't stop anybody. That's my point. They stopped nobody.
They stop nobody. Their defense is atrocious. I don't know
why all the JJ McCarthy when he's terrible to It's
why I'm not betting on this game. But with the

(01:53:47):
idea that like the idea that all of a sudden,
the Cowboys are something they're not, I don't wonder.

Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
I don't I hate the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (01:53:55):
I think, well, you hate them personally.

Speaker 2 (01:53:57):
Right, But I look at that team and I'm judging
the game. I think it's one sided. I'm shocked.

Speaker 3 (01:54:05):
I'm not putting Jeff.

Speaker 8 (01:54:06):
I got to ask you a question when you played,
which team did you hate the most?

Speaker 3 (01:54:09):
When you were the Eagles, when I was, when.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
Uh, when I was on the Giants. Probably we played
worse Agains Philly than any of the other teams we played.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
Well, hang on one second, we got to take a
t O because he's gonna kill us. But I but
I want Jeff to answer this. This is great where
the fellas hang it out right here? Fox Sports Radio,
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Speaker 7 (01:54:54):
Mark final segment here. I don't even feel like doing it,
but we have.

Speaker 1 (01:54:58):
To two.

Speaker 2 (01:55:02):
Two on.

Speaker 3 (01:55:03):
I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
Why don't you want to do it? Adam?

Speaker 3 (01:55:05):
What happened you?

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
Kevin?

Speaker 8 (01:55:07):
Mean?

Speaker 7 (01:55:08):
We have an update on two on two off where
we pick two favorites every week and two underdogs every
week in the NFL. So I was feeling pretty good
about myself after going three and one last week.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
Pretty good.

Speaker 7 (01:55:23):
Only problem is Kevin also went three and one, oh
for real, so I gained no ground. Do not pass, go,
do not collect two hundred dollars. I'm twenty eight and
twenty eight and he's FN thirty one and twenty five.

Speaker 6 (01:55:39):
Hey, you're right, You're in Jeff Fisher status right there.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:55:41):
Well, I guess that's seven and nine, so you're better.

Speaker 6 (01:55:43):
So he's even better see it's looking up for you, Adam.

Speaker 7 (01:55:45):
First of all, the records are receiving. I'm only three
games back of Kevin, but I've been three games back
of him for like two months now, and I can't
gain any ground. I have a good week, he has
a good week. He has a bad week. I have
a bad week.

Speaker 3 (01:56:00):
Two steps forward, one step back.

Speaker 7 (01:56:04):
One kicking the ass? Right, how many weeks we have left?

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
Oh? What?

Speaker 8 (01:56:08):
Four?

Speaker 7 (01:56:08):
I believe I might have to get freaky with it.
All right, take some evasive action here?

Speaker 8 (01:56:18):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:56:18):
Okay, well, how evasive are we looking? So let's give
me an on. What's your first on for this week?

Speaker 7 (01:56:24):
I was gonna wait till I got yours.

Speaker 3 (01:56:26):
Well, of course you are.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
All right?

Speaker 7 (01:56:29):
All right, my first on? I like some ams this week.
I gotta choose between three here, and I didn't give
my cast time to choose for me. I'm gonna go
with the Seahawks minus thirteen and a half over the
Colts at home. I don't give you, damn. I don't
for age. Is just a number, is right? He's more experienced. Yeah,

(01:56:54):
five years ago he sucked as great. Cosell said he
couldn't throw the football. Then what's gonna change now against
that defense?

Speaker 3 (01:57:03):
Good luck.

Speaker 6 (01:57:05):
My first on, I'm going with the Houston Texans favored
by nine and a half over the Cardinals. Cardinals are
terrible Texans offense, still a bit of an issue where
their defense is dominant. Like Greg cole Sale told us,
this defense might score fourteen points by itself against Arizona.
So I got Houston covering the nine and a half
points spread over Arizona.

Speaker 3 (01:57:21):
All right.

Speaker 7 (01:57:22):
My other pick on a favorite the Bears the Bears,
the Bears, the Bears Bears minus seven. I put seven
point six. I think it's seven and a half. I
think it's minus seven and a half over the Browns
at home. I like the Bears bouncing back. Ben Johnson's
been amazing. Caleb Williams. I kind of understood what he

(01:57:45):
was saying postgame about that last throw. He wanted to
give his guy a chance. He didn't want to overthrow him.
He just underthrew him way too much. But I like
the Bears bouncing back minus seven and a half at
home over the Browns.

Speaker 3 (01:57:56):
That's actually one of my offs.

Speaker 6 (01:57:57):
I actually have the Bears of the Browns, excuse me,
covering seven and a half points Bread, So you got
you have a separator right there at him.

Speaker 3 (01:58:03):
I needed this. On my other on, I have the
Rams minus six.

Speaker 6 (01:58:07):
Over the Detroit Lions. I know I've been a big
supporter of the Lions, but just two banged up on defense.
The Rams offense is an absolute machine in that young
defense continuing to play well after they ran Arizona off.

Speaker 3 (01:58:17):
The field last week.

Speaker 6 (01:58:18):
I don't think they run the Lions off the field,
but I definitely think they covered the six points spread.

Speaker 7 (01:58:22):
All right to the offs off of favorites on to
the underdogs. Yes, I got Cincinnati plus three at home.
I know Joe Burrow's being a little bit MOPy. He's
not having fun.

Speaker 3 (01:58:36):
You will be two if you were running for your life.

Speaker 7 (01:58:38):
Well, I just expect everyone to rally around him. And
they already beat the Baltimore Ravens once. I think they
can do it again, or at least just not lose
by more than three. Since he plus three.

Speaker 3 (01:58:48):
Yeah, possible.

Speaker 6 (01:58:49):
My other off I already told you at the Browns
covering the seven and a half points bread in Chicago.
I also have the Chargers five and a half point
underdogs against the Chiefs. I do think the Chiefs wins.
Like I said, I'm not gonna count them out until
they're absolutely done. But I do think the Chargers find
a way to keep this close. I see this game
being decided by a field goal.

Speaker 3 (01:59:06):
All right.

Speaker 7 (01:59:07):
My final offen New England plus a point and a
half at home against the Bills.

Speaker 6 (01:59:13):
All right, Well, good luck to you, Adam, Thanks to Mark,
Thanks Debris, Thanks to you guys for listening. Project nil
is next here on Fox Sports Radio.

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