The Fellas With Anthony Gargano & Geoff Schwartz Recap Bama’s Comeback vs Oklahoma, Preview Week 16 in the NFL & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio. Well, good morning,
good morning, good morning, good morning, happy happy uh Fox
Football Saturday College football playoffs got on their way in
a big way last night. What an incredible football game
last night. And Norman, it looked Sooner, looked like Sooners

(00:23):
all day, right, jump out to the seventeen to nothing lead,
dominating the defensive front from Oklahoma, dominating Simpson and the Tide.
And then there was a couple miscues. There was a
drop punt, there was a pick six, and then the
field tipped. We'll talk all about it and get you

(00:44):
sept for today's slate of three games. And I know
there's one guy. It's Game day four, my main man,
Jeff Schwartz, Oregon. JM you tonight. Good morning, buddy, Happy
game day.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
It is the game day. I am excited to be
with you today. We excited to watch Organ tonight. Two
straight games, two straight days where tweets have had to
be deleted because of the end result. Right when you
have the Rams up thirty fourteen, Oklahoma up, you know,
seventeen to nothing. A lot of things were said, including
things from me and those I've had to be erased

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and changed but such as sports. I mean, look, Alabama
two or sixty yards on offense, thirty four points in
a road win.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Those numbers don't always align.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
But they got it done because that's college football and
special uns manor right. We saw that last night, we
saw that on Thursday, and that's why it's a team game.
It's why you have office. You have been special teams.
And they made more plays in the end. Oklahoma completely melted.
I mean, they're seventy nothing at home, and this is
like why you play your season right to have a

(01:53):
home playoff game like this, to go seventeen to nothing
and lose. Knock except you know so, but cred Alabama
credit the winner. First, they won the game. They made
the players that were necessary to get it done. The
last dude, But the last six drives this game were
like four punts and two missfield. I mean, it's kind
of It was just a gross game in general. So
know what, we thought this game would be probably a

(02:15):
little more points than the defensive touchdown. But in the end,
Bama wins, killing the borough off whatever semi hot seat
he was on, probably off of Michigan coaching board now
as well.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
In Alabama advances to play Indiana.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
And the Rose Bull.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, you know it really was kind of unacceptable for
for Oklahoma in so many ways. Man, well you got
that kind of lead, and I get it. And the
defense too, well that's it, like that's that's it all
you need. And then what happened the real issue is
all right, so things happen like a punter will drop

(02:54):
a punt and it will drop the ball and you
got bad luck. Defense still held them at three, and
then the pick six was awful. But when Alabama tied
it up, you saw the tier going to a shell.
After the pick six is when their offense started to
really stall. Yeah, and between the end of the second

(03:17):
quarter and the entire third quarter, they you could see they.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Play title offense. Yeah, you know, Matier is just not
an upper eche long quarterback. I mean, Ty Simpson is
better than him, I think, especially as a passer. Now,
Matier can run the ball obviously, which is hugely important too,
but the materi is their run game. Like he's their
run game. And I think too, even on the Alabama side,

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they can't run the football, man, but it's a problem,
but they do enough and they stuck with it. Look,
I love that fourth down call by killing the Boords
at seventeen to nothing fourth and two about the fifteen,
you could have kicked a short field goal, but you
know you need a point and something's a good you know,
I feel good about they throw a short pass, it
was completed for a first down. Three four tackles later,

(04:03):
guys you know, broken down the guys in the in
zone and you celebrated a touchdown. So h that was
a huge hurting point in that game. Followed by him
the drop punt, which is just like I'm not sure
I've ever seen a punter just no no wind, no weather,
no just flat out drop the ball as he went
to put put it on his leg.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
I've never seen that before.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Like that, so Oklahoma in all phases, just you know,
they missed two field goals. Then in the game, the
field kicker one of the like gros Award did he
like the best, Like they just didn't he missed one
whole year. They just didn't. Just didn't play well in
the moment and they're at home, you know, like this
is again you want to buy right like you fight
for a buy.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I get that. If you don't get one, what's what's
better home home playoff game.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I get Tobama team, by the way, that has not
played terribly well for the last month. They've won games,
but they can't think haven't been able to score a
lot of points in those games. They just got dominated
by Georgia and you had them up seventeen nothing and
couldn't finish the game.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
You know, it's bizarre. They didn't run the ball right,
and Bama, well they can't run the ball well all season.
This is like it's not new for now, I agree,
but I'm just laying out this fut Yeah, and Jeremy
Bernard was quiet, like he had one big chance for
a play and he dropped it. He was on the ground.

(05:31):
So Jeremy bre Bernard was quiet. So was Ryan Williams,
who has just fallen off the planet. They feels like
no chances back on the team next year right now.
But then they win, Like that's what's amazing, right, I mean,
here Brooks has a great game, but that was it, Like,

(05:53):
well you look at it, it's nuts. So the first game.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Was won by Oklahoma and the postgame win expectancy, so
again just sort of I've talked about this before, right,
just sort of looking at what the numbers of the
game will tell you the efficiency numbers right would have put, well,
did put Oklahoma with a five percent chance to win
that game? And they won? They won twenty three twenty one.

(06:21):
I'm curious what the postgame went. Expectancy, Well, this game was, Yes,
this was the opposite. I don't think it's I don't
think it's gonna be up yet.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
But I'm curious if first downs Oklahoma eighteen to twelve,
Alabama was two for twelve. On third down Oklahoma seven
for eighteen total yards BABA two hundred and sixty total yards,
Oklahoma three sixty two, Alabama twenty eight rushing yards, Oklahoma

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three hundred and seven passing yards, time of possession Alabama
twenty six fifty two, Oklahoma thirty three eight in every
category lay out stat alabout.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, I'm looking here. I'm seeing my guy Bill Connley,
who posts posting win toward TV's got it up yet.
I'm kind of curious to see because I mean, this
feels like a game where again this is gonna be
like ten percent again, but it's gonna be the other direction,
right where the other team, you know, is the one
who does it. So I mean, it's really the first
nineteen minutes, Oklahoma went up seventeen, nothing out gained Bamba

(07:32):
one eighty one to twelve. The next twenty one minutes,
Bama outscored the sender's twenty seven nothing out gained them
one ninety four to fifty nine. Just wild to wild Man.
Just a game that this has looked. This why football,
I mean is I feel like you just don't get

(07:52):
this very much. And in other sports, like you're not
gonna get a basketball game or one team shot terribly
Like no, again, you can't and win like you just
that's not the way it works. And football, you even
go back to Thursday night, I don't think, I don't
think Stalles better than than Los Angeles, but they won
the game. You know, it's just that just is what
it is. That's the way football is. It's because there's

(08:13):
so many different phases, there's so many different ways to
win that so many different ways to lose. Quite honestly, right,
I talk about this a lot. I really do firmly
believe this. I think more teams lose games and win games.
And I think here's it's a good example here of
that where Oklahoma lost this game. Right, They lost this
game with the pick six. Stay through. They lost this
game by you know, by missing field goals. They lost

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this game by dropping a punt. You know, Bama didn't
Bama didn't have the pick six. They caught the football,
but it's a bad throw. And then you mentioned r
John Matier goes into a shell, you know, like and
that's the confidence you have to have to play after
bad things happen. That takes a special skill and John
Materier just yesterday just didn't have that special skill in
him to overcome that.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Now, that's huge, It's exactly right. The what we saw
too is you know, when you've got a team on
the ropes, you have to you know, and we've seen
this from time to time, and again this wasn't last night,
but we've seen it where teams just kind of get

(09:18):
up big and have a big lead and they kind
of go into a shell, right like they just kind
of don't execute, They don't they don't continue to depress it, like,
I don't know whether they're gonna learn that you've got
to keep being aggressive.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, I mean the Rams are figured this out the
hard way multiple times this year.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Right where I saw one where against the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, like you gotta keep going, you gotta keep you
got you gotta you gotta keep the foot down. You
have to be down.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
And they start running the ball and trying to milk
clock in the third quarter. You can't do it like
these guys, like they play prevent defense on.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Offense, especially especially in my in my opinion on college football,
where the game deals a little bit longer, right, yeah,
stops after first downs under two minutes, and there seems
to be more variants and more bad things can happen,
Like you have to keep the foot down the entire game.

(10:19):
You just you can never stop, never stop trying to
score points, never stop. And I think that it's human
nature to try to shorten the game up. But to
Oklahoma is not a shortened game up offense, right because
they don't run the ball well. Like I I understand
if you run the ball really well, Okay, yeah, look
short in the game up, Like I get that philosophy.
But if that's not who you are, because you can't

(10:41):
run the ball very well, then you can't be as
short in the game.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Team. You have to be a score as many points.
You can't.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Now the last time I say welcome with though defensively,
you know, they they got two inch fixty yards like
that's that's basically you should win those games when you're
doing that rights, and they just didn't.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
So I don't.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
I don't blame the d defense at all in this one.
Now we have Indiana Oklahoma in the roads, gonna be
Alabama Indiana in the in the Rose Bowl. What a
fascinating game, man.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I love Indiana in this game.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I think Alabama is not going to score in this game,
so you know, I think, like for all of us,
this will be a fun watch. And we got three
games today, We've we we had two NFL games today.
H your your squad's playing today against a Commander squad
that's out their quarterback.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I just don't. I still don't trust you guys. We'll
talk about that obviously plenty today as well. So man,
so much football, dude. I love it.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
It is. It's the it is the holidays are here,
and it's the greatest. It really is the greatest time.
But just to continue the Oklahoma thing, because I'm watching
that thing and I I don't think they went into
a shell. I just think data loss confidence, right, like
they just got blitzed. It was a blitz type of

(11:58):
thing where two jolts right, like the drop the drop
punt and then the pick six jolted that like they
were rolling and the next thing, you know, the game's tied,
and psychologically they couldn't handle it. Like take me into
your world in the highest level, right, yeah, because I

(12:22):
could talk about lower level. I want to know from
the highest level of your level. When you when you squander,
when you you feel like you have a game in control,
and then you go in into halftime and you go,
oh my god, we're down or we're tied. What's that mindset?
And then that, to me is everything to overcome.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Look, it's you know, offensively, I always felt like.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
It was.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
It was just it's a little easier than defensively. I
think the mindset was like our drops a score points
no matter what. So we're got, you know, seventeen seventeen.
Its just like, let's just let's just score points, man,
but let's just make it happen. And I feel like defensively,
you know, there's a lot of momentum involved, and I
consider that sort of confidence involved there, and so I
think defensively it's a little bit harder when when the

(13:13):
bad things happened, but offensive jubs just a score like
Geo materiy through a pick six, like screw it band,
like let's go, like, let's just have that confidence to
to play faster. And I imagine Brad Vnables came to
the locker room was like, all right, come on, guys,
like what are we doing now? Alabama had to fit
great at halftime because they did not play on the
first half right, and they ended up being ahead. So

(13:33):
one thing that I think is super important and the
best teams do this, and it really is hard to do.
I think, is you you spent all week preparing now
in this case, you spent you know, two weeks preparing
for this game. Is that no matter what happened in
the first half, you cannot get off your game plan.
That's what dooms a lot of a lot of teams

(13:54):
is they get to a point of the game where
they get out their game plan, their game script so soon.
I'm not saying Oklahoma did that, but that's one thing
I've noticed over the years with playing with certain coaches
like the ones that that in bad moments stick stuck
with what we practiced all week tended to fare better
in those situations than otherwise. And you can't pan.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Now.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Of course there is a time to say, look what
we what we practice just isn't gonna work today, right,
But there that wasn't the case yesterday. So that's a
lot of it for me is you have a game plan,
you have to stick to it, dude. These these games
are long, man. I bring this up all the time
to people like football. It's a long game. We saw
it the last two nights.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Man.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Now the NFL, we don't see comebacks quite like that
is often, and we see that a lot, you know,
in college football. But the fact is, like these games
are long. They're their ebbs and flows. You have to
ride the wave.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Man.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
You can't get too up and two down and stick
with what you practice, what you know you can do well.
Oklahoma try looked like they ran the ball bunch with
Materier as they should have. They tried their best to
stick with the game plan. Obviously, just wasn't enough to
make to make the place the end. Again, it was
a it was a failure from everyone. They threw a
pick six offensive, they didn'trun the ball very well, and
they bout special teams like this is These are all

(15:11):
things that matter in an important game like this. So
unfortunate ending for the Sooners. You know, I thought they
were winning this game. I was wrong on that. I
did my favorite prop of the weekend hit, which is
Jom's over over Russian attempts. That was my favorite. I mean,
I I that was he had nineteen of them. Now,
of course sacks count as rush attempts, but I thought
he had to run the ball a lot.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
He did. Yeah, yeah, that's good. That was a good play.
You know, it's amazing because he threw. He threw for
over three hundred yards. But he's not but he's not
a relative. It's not an accurate passer. Though. Mechanics are horrible.
I mean, I mean he's mechanics. I mean you know,

(15:53):
I mean everything as a quarterback. You cringe watching that,
like you go, you know, he's jumping in the air,
He's twisted his body, right, I mean, you know, God
bless him. Though, I he's a competitor. I respect his competitive.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Sure, I would would you rather have a QB that's
a tad less competitive but better pastor. I mean, I yeah,
it's fine. I just he's got to be.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
I get it, dude, I'm trying to be you know,
I still look at them like kids lay in the
way like I you know, I mean create sometimes.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
But so some schools right now as we get to
the time of the season where the transfer portal is
opening opening but Genuay first. But you know it's people
talking about it. There are there are these schools that
announced the players have re signed. They're pretty on tweets.
Usc Old missed in it, have re signed, Jeff Schwartz, Dude,

(16:53):
it's cringe as can be. I understand the nature of
the sport now these players are getting.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Paid, but to me it.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
To to to these teams specifically put out like re signed,
they're no longer kids, buddy, Like I felt the same
way you have for years.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
For years, I did not criticize Cassubal players specifically the
way I Chris the NFL players because they're not getting paid.
They're I'm just I'm not going to do it. They're
eighteen years old, they're nineteen years old. They're now officially
resigning like they are officially adults, like in my book,
So I have I have the filter is off. It's
been that way for two years, three years now as

(17:38):
soon as they're getting paid they are now you know,
you know I treat them like I would treat NFL players.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, like I get it. It doesn't change their age.
I mean change we change the system. They didn't change.
They're still the same age. Just because we change the
system doesn't mean now we castigate them because they're cashing
a check. I get it. And yeah, it's a big
stage and you know, I feel you. But you know

(18:08):
you're still talking about young men either, even though they're
getting old. Even though some quarterbacks now, like the quarterback
at Miami today, it's twenty five years old.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, save we could treat him like a a pro
so that you know, you know, you have you seen
those ressigned those resigned graphics, man, I.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Have, Yeah, I have, I had so. But you but
here's the problem. It's it's this is what you get
when you got free agency twice a year, right, like
you know you the reason why you do that is
to protect your guy. Like you know, we resign him
like they treat it just like an NFL office. It's
messed up, but it's here, it's not going anywhere. It's

(18:53):
it's insane. I just we just got done, you know,
we do the project that I help before the show.
And you know, I mean there was a House subcommittee
on youth sports because of affordability and a bunch of
lack of kids playing.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well. The affordability thing is a real problem. It's just
it's very expensive now to play youth sports.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
It just is now. Right. The thing, so here's here's
my whole thing on this is like, you know, travel ball.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
College is so expensive, right, so parents look to sports
as a way to get to college, right, and whether
that's as a walk on, the preferred walk on status,
you can get you into school a little bit easier, right,
a scholarship obviously, you can get you into school and
paid for your school. And so parents view that as

(19:51):
an opportunity and rightfully so right through sports to get
into a better school, to get school paid for. You
just get into a school, right, And so parents are
pushing their kids right to get into club sports earlier,
travel sports earlier. That's expensive and you know REX sports
are still cheap. Man, My kids play REX sports still.
But again, if you if you, if your goal is

(20:12):
to get your kids started early and get them on
that path to be noticed by any whoever that whoever
getting to be noticed by you push them into club
sports earlier and earlier, And I feel fortunate because of
my background right to like not do that. I'm not
doing that with my kids. We're not we're not doing
that yet. And so but there is a point, like

(20:33):
my daughter is very good at softball, okay, and she's ginormous.
That's probably the wrong word to you, I know, but
my voice says, like I don't know what the words
you used to call a girl big, Like she's my
daughter is very large, Okay, she's nine half percentile height
and weight. She's the way I put it like this,
it's like if you look at Jeff Schwartz's body in
a girl, like that's my daughter, okay, right right right right,

(20:55):
Like she's she's she's phenomenal in sports. At some point
for her to get seen, I will have to move
for the club sports, right like like like no one's
coming to watch our local high school softball game to
scout to scout to scout for for scholarship athletes, Like
you're gonna have to move at some point to go
play club sports travel ball so I can get her scene.

(21:17):
So like there's a there's a there's a pivot point
where that has to happen. I just wish it wasn't
that way, like when when I was a kid, when
you were kids, scouts came to high school games. So yeah,
like they like that's what they saw, like where they said, no,
you went to some showcase camps. You absolutely did. I
went to a Stanford baseball camp. I went to this.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Like, but it's just so I but it's unaffordable. It's
so expensive, dude, and travel, it's we gotta take we
gotta take a quick break. Just s I will get
to it. We gotta We got a busy, busy show.
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Speaker 1 (22:40):
Happy holidays, and Jeff hanging with you guys on a
Fox Football Saturday. All right, my brother, let's look to
UH today's slate. Hey, let's start with your game, all right,
because I I know you got to be just brimming

(23:02):
right now. Fire it up. It's James Madison in Oregon.
I love what coach Dan did this week. He's had
a simulated game, had the I had the duck out,
the whole thing, but start the end of the third
quarter and or the beginning of the fourth quarter. Tried
to simulate everything, UH in anticipation of the playoff game.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
So it's interesting about the playoff. About hosting a playoff game,
it's actually run by the UH, the CFP committee. It's
like you still have some of the home things you do,
but you do like other like you. It's like a
neutral syche game. Sometimes it's kind of very odd setup.
But nonetheless I feel good. I don't know why it

(23:47):
wouldn't I uh, you know, I mean we're better than
than yeah, obviously.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I think the most important the most important thing is
that it sounds like we're getting our wide receivers back
at least two of them, uh, which would turn us
from right now as we're talking right now without knowing
the status, the actual game status of those guys. We
have three wide receivers that are healthy and on scholarship
that are playing this game. Our fourth is in the portal.

(24:15):
So we have we have three. We have Benson, who
had the huge touchdown for us against Washington, right, and
he's been incredible.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
We have we have.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Jeremiah mccleonell, number eleven, and then we have a true
freshman who doesn't play like we played our last game
against Washington with two wide receivers to play an entire game,
and we have. Luckily for us, we have two great
tight ends right, one of them Kendik, who's going to
be a top five So that's fortunate for us that

(24:47):
we could play a twelve games.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
But right, you could be McVeigh right.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
We can't correct which which we are. So half of
those guys back Gary Bryn Jr. And presumably Decreyn Moore,
who's our true freshman who is incredibly talented and how
to great season until he got hurt in practice over
the bye week about six weeks ago. Now that that
that'd be great, be great for us. So when people
are saying, and I've seen Duck fans, well, you shouldn't play.

(25:12):
Are they gonna play? You know they're gonna play if
they're healthy, Like, come on, of course they're gonna play.
So that's important. Secondly, I looked this up. We've been
a favorite of at least eighteen points in seven games
so far this season. We've covered five of the seven,
but with ease for the most part, and then though

(25:33):
two we didn't cover what thirty four to nothing at
Northwestern they scored two touchdowns against our four string team
in the fourth quarter, and then we didn't cover the
monsoon against Wisconsin in the middle of the season. So
we play really well in these games so far this season.
And I've watched JMU on defense. Their defense is tough, physical,

(25:53):
plays hard, doesn't make mistakes, but they're also just not
very big. I mean, I just have a hard time
previously this game because every every player that we are
starting is the best player they've seen that position all season.
I know people will say, well, Louisville's wide receiver, I
guess I mean, I think the Corny Moore is better

(26:14):
than any Louisville wide receiver. Like, it's just the best
team they played all season. So I don't we should
win this game going away. It's called football. You never know, Jamie,
you will be ready to play. But I just we're
just much better. So hopefully we we take care of
business tonight and I could turn over to the NFL
game fairly quickly. Well you'll watch the whole thing. Well

(26:36):
you have more so well, yeah, yeah, I'm thinking you're not.
I stayed up late to watch the Seattle Rams game.
I went to bed early last night, so tonight it's
a good night to stay awake again. I'll be I'll
make it. I'll make I'll make it with these buddy.
Did you watch the end of the Badman game this morning?

Speaker 1 (26:52):
I did? Oh yeah, wow, I was. I tried my best.
I was it was.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I knew that tonight was going to be a long
so I made sure last night was A was a
I was.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Up A five. I wouldn't watch it.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
I'll just watch it again this morning, he said, as
you have to do that these coasts. Man, it's hard.
It's it's it's it's what it is.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
All right. So the crown jewel of the day's game
of the day takes place Miami and A and m Yes, sir,
and this one. I I, you know what's funny because
I like A and m But I mean I I
don't I don't feel I don't have any confidence in

(27:39):
kind of seeing how this game is gonna play out.
You know why I like them? I mean, you know,
I mean I can easily see a pathway for Miami.
I mean, I you know, you love. I'm curious because
I think Marcel Reid doesn't get enough love and respect.
I'm a I like read a lot, and you know,

(28:05):
Beck gets all the gets all that stuff, and I
get it, like Tony is ridiculous. He's the best player
on the field.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
But Reid hasn't played as well goods the better teams,
and the schedule is not full of better teams.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
That's that's my concern, is like.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
This is the I mean, this is the best, you know,
this is the best team A and M has played
really played Texas at Miami, Like those are two best
teams are going to play offs season and they don't
look good against Texas and they got the opportunity, and
you know, it gets Miami to look much better. The
thing that I have look I like Marrier crystabal. This

(28:40):
is my biggest concern is sort of the big game.
Hows Miami playing this game. That's my biggest concern because he,
you know, the game management sometimes has not been great
the situations for him. So I think Miami is better
as a team that have to go on the road,
which is tough. A and M is a tough place
to play. It's going to be loud, and it's gonna

(29:01):
be wild and crazy, and it's early game. By the
Miami is better. The Miami is better. And I'm curious
to see obviously if I look silly and saying.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
That, yeah, I mean, you know you've forgotten other Dame
who a and m oh yeah that's all the way yes,
all the way back. I don't know if that's in.
I think not.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Dame would be A and M fairly, not easily now,
but it'd be.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
A different Yeah, I do too. I think Notre Dame
would beat Miami easily now, but I think that would
have been both those teams last night.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, I forgot about I mean the thing about football,
like that game was playing I think September like eighth,
Like it just doesn't That game just doesn't matter. There's
just there's that game happened, It certainly did, but it
has no there's no there's no use in pre in
previewing today's game, but talking about a game in September.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
You know what's funny. I I completely agree. I just
had to bring that up. No no, no, no, no, no, no,
to be accurate. You did. No, You're right, you have to.

Speaker 6 (30:02):
I was.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
I was wrong that they did be they I was
thinking about the last thing.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Well, yeah, I know where you're at and and and
I agree with you. And I only really brought up
just to take a shot at the committee again because
I do think Notre Dame is better than all three
of these teams. So you know, the two leg or
all four of them, the two of the last night
and the two playing today. I think Notre Dame is
better than and And again, I just say this in

(30:29):
wanting to see the best teams out there, and that's
really it. You know. I went to Temple, so we
were not work far from the college football playoffs. I
just look at it. It's a huge void not having
Notre Dame there. Temple's not close like like you were.
You're really going to play that like mister big Oregon

(30:51):
Eugene guy kicking kicking the tu man. I mean, like
you're above that, aren't you. I don't.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Really it's basketball, they like organ basketball is not good.
We have problems this year. Now listen, it's key. It's decent,
but it's not where it used to be. It used
to be great. I remember Temple basketball is great.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, they had a great coach, All Famer John Cheney.
Uh rest is God rest his soul. But now they're not.
That's not that's not what. That's not.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Still Temple still play home games at the Link for football.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yes, it's kind of.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Crazy to me that both Pittsburgh and Philadelphia both have
grass as they should then, but both played college games
the day before they play NFL games. I don't know
how to get away with that.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
I don't know how.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
The field just is destroyed. It's crazy to me that
that they that that that's still a thing that happens.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. So let's yeah, let's
get back to this game. Let's get back to the
So what what's your pathway? Let's look at it for
A and M. What's your now their defense like to me,
you've got to get in Beck's face. You've got to

(32:09):
be able to pressure him, and then just make sure
you got a bracket Tony that I love the Yeah,
I like the A and M defense. I do think
that that's kind of where they need to be and
in this in that environment.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
I think that the pathway for A and M is,
you know, you have a control game plan offense, You
leave on your offensive line, which is good, you know,
Ruby Bain is fantastic. You find a way to get
a couple of couple of eyes on him right throughout
the game and take away that option for them. And
that's that's how you do it right. And and defensively,

(32:47):
as you mentioned, like you forced back in the turnovers,
which we've seen in the losses this year that that's
been a problem, whether he's been confused or whether he's
been non same picts with with with with the wide receiver,
which is the way the the legal game ended right
on the interception, he said, you know me and the
wide was ever wear on the same page on the
hot route. So I thought, you do it right. You

(33:07):
just try to find a way to confuse him, confuse
the the Miami offense. And maybe you know, maybe it
starts slow, right is it is a road a road
playoff game, and uh, you catch them early and nap
in a little bit and force some turnovers and and
make them plays early.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Now flip side canes come in. You know, it's squarely
to me a momentum thing and just survive early. You
almost you got to not do Bama right, Like Bama
got lucky that there were a couple of big mistakes
that happened. You got to survive early without digging in

(33:43):
an early grave.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Absolutely, And that to me comes down to their good
offensive line, their run game, some quick easy passes like that.
Like I thought, Bama yesterday just when they started the
game just didn't come out offensively. And you have to
do on the road, my opinion, especially in the hostile
environment and you haven't played in a couple of weeks.
Like just let me just just methodical, right, You use

(34:07):
your offensive line, use what you have short passes like
just you know, early on, just let Beck settle into things.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
That's how I would do it. Yeah, I'm with you.
And Uh, you know, you got the best player to
feel on the field in Tony. He's a dynamic player
and you gotta get him a football A.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
And M knows that too, by the way, right, you
have to find a way to you know, you have
to know that they're going to try to take him
away as well.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, yeah, we have to take quick too. We'll come
right back as we preview the college football playoffs already
off to a rock and start. It's uh and Jeff
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Radio app. All Right, the Grove gonna be popping, man,
that's gonna be another one. I'm already looking at a
buddy of mine is a big Mississippi guy, big old

(35:36):
miss man, and they are pumped up. They cannot wait
the playoffs come to the grove. And I already got
pictures from the morning, the calm before the storm. Everybody's excited. Look,
I know it's it feels like not a mismatch, but

(35:56):
it's gonna be interesting, certainly from the Lane Kiffin standpoint.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Look, man, I'm not saying that CAP committee has to
care what Jeff Schwartz thinks about about this and worry
about our jobs. But like, the thing that is frustrating
about the G five teams being in and it's not
their fault, that's just the system that's set up, and
JMU and Tulane and and you know Boise last year,
who was much better than both too Lane and JMU.

(36:22):
They would have beat them by the touchdown or more
they played. Is like, there's just no way to preview
these games. How do you preview a game that was
forty five to ten ear this season? Yeah, Like, what
do you want me to say?

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Well, if the Lane kiffn thing if it, you know,
I don't know what's gonna happen. I mean, all the
coaches came back and said to Lane, like you, what
do you equate that to seven points? So this would
be a twenty four point spread if Lane was there.
Most sportsbooks I think have made this a four, have
changed his number by four without Lane Kiffin being there.
I think it's a little bit more quite honestly, losing

(37:00):
your head coach and play caller. But Old Miss again
is just more talented. That's the thing about about the sport.
There are surely upsets that happened, right, but a lot
of times they happen uh in week two, in week
seven and week ten. There's a difference wheen you've had
an entire two weeks to prepare and this game matters.

(37:21):
It's a playoff game, right if they played this game
in week eleven, feel a little differently, But you're gonna
get Old Misses full attention in this game. It's also
at home. You know, Old Miss defensively is not as
good this season as they were in years past. So
maybe two Lane, you try to muck the game up
a little bit. You run the ball. You know, all
these teams JMU and two Lake have to be they're

(37:43):
going to be so good on third down on offense. Well, really,
to be fair, they have to be really good on
first down to put them on a situation where, you know,
opportunity for convertible third downs. I mean JMU was looking
at the numbers earlier. JMU, they they have a third
and seven plus forty eight percent of their third downs
that ain't gonna work. That don't work today, not gonna

(38:05):
work today, buddy, So excuse me. Fifty five yeah, yeah,
forty six percent of the time they have a third
and seven plus ain't gonna work today. So winning first
downs for both these teams is gonna be hugely important.
Every play you've ever had, imaginable in your entire playbook, right,
is gonna be out there today.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Every trick play.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Every formation, every everything you could ever imagine is gonna
be out thrown out for two Lane today, for for
JMU today. You know, can those defenses have good eye discipline, right?
Can they make sure that they're not fooled by anything
and allow to Lane or JMU to score. Look, it's

(38:48):
last night, Oklahoma is up seventeen. Nothing being able to
look back and wins. If two Lane or Jamie gets
down seventeen nothing, they're losing by forty five, right, So like,
how fast can they start? How can they know? How
can they win on third down?

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Right?

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Like there's little things that and even that even if
you are good on first down, you're good on third down,
you're you're you're still just less talented, right, you know,
it's an easier case to make that to Lene and
Retslough just play their minds for two and a half
quarters to keep the game close, right, And and Chamblins

(39:24):
doesn't have Lane Kiffin there and he's not you know,
and they they turn out the you know, the team
over to Golden and just they're not as crisp as
they can be, right, And I can make that case better.
I can jam you organ. Right, So maybe too Lane
MUCKs it up enough to keep it close. They're not
gonna win over sixty minutes. But I can see a
path for old Missus to start a little slower than

(39:46):
we expect because of the coaching changes.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
But also too to Lane's coaches coaching Florida. He's he's
in Florida now. It's like some are all on social
media has a picture of himself in two different like
half shirt half Florida, half.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Too late, like these coaches, Chesty has already with his.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Eyes to UCLA.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
So there's so many things layers to these games that
I didn't really make it tougher for the G five
teams to compete at the level they want to be at.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, and listen, we all know what they need to fix.
We've talked about at nauseum. Hey, coming up through some
NFL let's talk about it as well. Fellas on Fox
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(40:44):
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(41:07):
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your screen. Any parties, Jeff, Nope, I mean we do.
We have a party of the house.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
We had people over. We No, no, not for nothing
for the holidays. Oh, I'm not interesting now I think
about it. I'm surprised my wife doesn't have a holiday
party for her office. She just didn't want to go.
Didn't tell me. It's interesting.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
H nothing.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
My kids are my kids and wife family is going
to Whistler on Monday morning. So I'll be by myself
next week because I don't ski and I'm not flying
a Whistler for that. Uh so, uh yeah, I will.
I'll have like six days to myself.

Speaker 6 (42:12):
I will.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
It will be the six best days of food of
my life. I feel like I'm gonna make just whenever
I want for six days in a row. I have
recipes saved, I have like soups I want to I
have long recipes I want to make, like hours, I
got everything, like, because I want to make it's queued
up ready to go. I'm gonna go to I'll go
to the there's an international grocery store. I'll go there

(42:35):
the first day of my family leaves. Because but you know,
like my wife doesn't like some of the smells of
the food I make. I don't know if I told
you so, Like I you know, I like I like
eating Chinese like all of us do. And so I've
decided to learn how to make a lot of dishes
that yeah I love that. Yeah, So but you know,
it's supposed to a Chinese food restaurant in my house
when I make those, and she doesn't like it. So

(42:55):
I save a lot of the opportunity for that when
when they're gone. So I'm gonna go the Asian Mark
pick up all the ingredients. I have most of them.
I just more of like the meats and the noodles
and stuff. And I have all the sauces in my
house right here that I got the oyster sauce and
the hoist and sauce, and the fish oils and the
sesame oil and fish sauce. I should say I got
the chauging wine.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
I got to do. I got everything all right, It's
just it's all ready to go.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
MSG. By the way, I'm about to be MSG like
real MSG. It makes Yeah, it makes a difference. It pops,
It pops. So I can't I can't wait. What's your
number one dish? It you're gonna make?

Speaker 1 (43:31):
So I make this?

Speaker 2 (43:32):
So I make this like beef chow fun that I
really like to make. Salt, I make salt pepper shrimp.
I'm gonna make uh, that's a I'm gonna make some
sort of soup from scratch. I've done Wanton from scratch before. No, no,
I've done.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
I've done Foe from scratch before. I might do wanton.
So you've tried to pop from from scratch? Yeah, I
mean I think my favorite. I love it.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
The kind of meat, uh, beef I did, I've done.
Shrimp is easiest because you can just blant it really quickly.
I've done, I have done uh Like it's more of
a quick recipe. Like it takes an hour to make
the broth. I could do one that takes longer, But
to make the broth from scratches not very hard. It
just it just you know, it takes a little bit

(44:17):
of time. So yeah, there's a many options for me.
It's gonna be warm next week too, so the soups
might be off off I might not feel like soup
next week.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
So they're going to the Where are they going again, Whistler, Okay,
north of Vancouver. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yeah, my wife's problem because it's supposed to it's snowing
a bunch like they have great They're gonna have great snow.
It's gonna be cold. We went to Utah last year
for the same time period. It wasn't it didn't snow
very much and it wasn't terribly cold. But this is
gonna be like legit snow. The kids will do The
kids will ski from uh seven am.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
To four o'clock. They will not stop. They they love it.
That's awesome, man.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah they're good. They're good at skiing, so they they
certainly love it. Yeah, that sounds like that's such a
boogy thing to say. There good at skiing. Never would
have thought I would say something like that in my life.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Hey, here's what it is. All right, we got NFL
today as well as college football. Man cannot live by
college football alone. So this begins the NFL Saturday games.
So we have a couple of week A Saturday games.
We get it started at five with the Eagles and Commanders. Obviously,

(45:32):
Commanders are done. Dave sheld Jade Daniels like he's done
for the year. They shelved him Mariotle start. The Eagles
looked after losing three straight, beat a hapless Raiders team
crossed them thirty one, nothing out, say whatever you want.
They held an NFL team to seventy five yards, so

(45:54):
that's still impressive. And now they go to place to
face Washington, which should continue their get.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Right kind of feel. So let's keep us interesting to
me because we know that the Raiders are the medicine
for any bad football team player of the Raiders gonna win.
Feel better? Are the Eagles offensive woes fixed now? Because
let the Chiefs put up thirty one on the under

(46:22):
the Raiders, right, the Raiders absolutely stink. So I gotta
see that man I you know is now Nolan Johnson again.
So that's that's important because I think that he really
makes a big difference to the offensive line Washington. The
question for Washington, a lot of it comes down to,
like how much do they care about this game?

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Right?

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Because Jane Daniels as they they're sitting him, which I
think it makes a lot of sense. So Mariota is starting.
They're out of the playoffs as a division rival. Is
a primetime game, it's a game against your you know,
it's the the Eagles. They're going to care a little bit.
But like how if it gets tough, it gets you know, hard,
How much I'm really gonna care about this game is
my question?

Speaker 1 (47:07):
So, uh, fascinating game.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
The Eagles win this game, I believe they win the division, right,
had a shirt game for the Eagles. Yeah, with a
win today, first division winner back to back in the
ANFC East two thousand and three would be today. If
Philly were to win this game, I think if Philly
plays well offensively, you sort of feel good about them
heading the postseason, right, a couple of weeks in a row,

(47:30):
some some good stuff, you know, defensively, so offensively. I'm
looking forward to this game. I'm if Daniels is playing,
it will be different. I'm mildly looking forward to this game.
I know you're you know, you're Eagles fan. Well, yeah,
I mean I think a couple of things off of
this thing. One, Washington defense is not good, So that's

(47:54):
Everything with the Eagles is about their offense. Their defense
is legitimate.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
The defense can drag them to a little bit of
a run, but it's really gonna be about whether or
not they can execute offensively and get confidence. Now they've
done even when they lost the Chargers, they did different
things right, like Jalen under center. It finally appears that

(48:20):
Jalen has embraced under center, which he needs to be.
He also flashed in the run game, and I think
that's what he's most effective is when he's playing point
guard and he's evolved in a run game. It just
makes it they may It makes them so much harder.
We actually saw some creativity in the offense. I had

(48:41):
somebody tell me the other day because we were talking
about the creativity and got it being evolved at tight
end and I was like, I was like, I liked
a couple of formations, particularly the Goddard stuff. And I
was told, what do you think that Petlo doesn't want
to do that stuff or it doesn't know how to

(49:01):
do that stuff? Of course they do. It's been it's
been limited. Well why is why is that? Though? Well
apparently limited a little bit because of the quarterback and
what he likes to do and quarterback changing plays and
that sort of thing. But I thought Jalen executed that
stuff really well. Now you can say it's the Raiders defense,

(49:24):
so what Yeah, no, they're supposed to. You know, you
should against bad teams. You should play well if you're
a good team. So I agree with you there. Yeah,
and I you know again, this should be another another
offensive you know, they should. They should look good offensively.
Washington's defense they had no pass rush, So I'm with

(49:47):
you there on a lot of things. You said.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
A couple more questions I have for you. So there
was report next sire already got more involve the offense.
Do you do you think that's the case. Yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
I think he was.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
He was part of it, which is what I think
is needs to happen. Right, We talked about this for
a while though, Right, if you have a side of
the ball that you are in charge of as a
head coach, yeah you got you gotta be able to
jump in. So I'm glad they did that. That's super important.
That's awesome for the for Philly, And now it's just

(50:22):
a matter of sort of getting yourself, you know, win
the game, get healthy, get carter back, get laying back,
and get ready for the postseason. I still don't know
what this offense would look like. I think it's a
better defense. I mean there's still question marks there, but
another sharp performance today would be very encouraging. I feel

(50:42):
like people have forgotten about Philly right you look at
at the at the the stands right now in the NFC,
you know they're gonna have a home playoff game, they're
defending champions. I feel like we've sort of forgotten about
the possibility of Philly, who could go back to Super
I don't think they're as good as the Rams. But
the Rams, though, have also blown multiple games in a road.
But I don't trust the Rams early in any sort

(51:02):
of game because they can't. You know, they blew a
big lead to the Philly. They blew a big lead
to Seattle. They they lost the Panthers, so they see
his wide open. Man, I don't know why Philly, if
they start playing better holistically, can can get back to
Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah. Well, I what gives me the most optimism from
that from their perspective is I think they have the
best defense in the NFC, better than Seattle. Yep, yep,
they got a better front, and they have an equal secondary.
I mean Quentna Mitchell has not allowed a touchdown pass

(51:39):
to Sea. One of the most underrated players in the
league is Coignon Cooper Degene you know, physical, can play corner,
can play a lot like the song. Yeah, I mean,

(52:02):
you know. I mean they are two good linebackers. They're
good at every level. Even their only weak spot was
CB two. And Tori Jackson's actually played well.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Uh yeah, he's he's been he's been better.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yeah, I mean I'm not saying he's you know, Quinnya
on the other side, right, not Reeves, but I mean
he's played well, like he hasn't been a problem. They
had an injury, you other safety spot, they brought in
a veteran Epps Marcusp's been kind of solidified that. So
their secondary is good. They got you know, I mean,

(52:44):
two great players on it again, they got a dynamic front,
and they got two good linebackers and Zach Bond and
the Kobe Dean who were very active. So I'll take
the Eagles defense over Seattle's defense.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
I really consider Philly in that way defensively, and I
love the coordinator. I think Fancier knows what he's done
is out of Quenjo is fantastic. And we saw last
season to end the year how much better the defense
played than the start the season. Right, so you have
some some sort of you know, the idea of what
what that could look like. Hey in the postseason. I
do feel like he had. In the NFC, Phillies that

(53:20):
one team that were sort of just not paying attention to.
And part of that is obviously the AFC West sort
of stuck up the attention last week and Philly had
not played well till they played in Oakland.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
But whatever, Vegas.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
But they get a win today a national television and
they played Buffalo next week, right, so we'll get a
good view of them next couple of weeks here.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
So we were talking a lot about you know, the
Bills game too, like because you're the school of thought
here that you know you got lame. Do you do
your rush lane back for Buffalo in that environment, laming Carter,
or wait until the season finale the following week also

(54:05):
gets Washington and play those guys for a half.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
You're not getting the one seed correct in the NFC,
and it's probably.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
A lot three seed it's kind of where they're at.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
I I think it really depends on what what Lane wants. Right,
He's earned the opportunity, I think, to choose how he
would like to come back in the situation. Right, And
if he says I need one game before the playoffs,
give him one game. If he says I need to
or he wants to play against Buffalo, you play him
against Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Right, that's simple. If he says, hey, man, I just
need one.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Game to get ready or need a half, like, let
me play a half against Washington a week eighteen, you
let him play a half, like. I think Lane has
earned the opportunity and the right to tell you what
he needs for himself to get ready to play. Obviously
is indict no indicative, But obviously he can only happen
if you win today. If you win today, you clinch

(55:01):
the divisions. A hand T shirt game, right, you get
a hand T shirt after after today. I think you
Lane choose, right. I think Jaalen Carter, you get to
choose as a team.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Right. By the way, for Lane, I think Lane has
to choose what he needs to get ready for the post. Yah, yeah,
I would agree, I would agree.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
So maybe it's it's play against buffaloy K team. Maybe
it's playing half in either game. Like, whatever Lane tells
you he needs for his body, he gets to choose.
He's earned that right to to to choose.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Yeah, I would agree with that. Hey. Last thing on
the Eagles, Uh as they play Washington today, do you
you brought up the Eagles? When I brought up Eagles defense,
you kind of were like surprised at you know, my
kind of stance on it. I'll ask you, how would
you attack their defense? Because it's not like you could

(55:51):
pick on corners, it's not like they're porus against the run.
How would you attack them?

Speaker 2 (56:00):
You can't really do anything up the middle, right, so
now you have to attack edges, sea gaps, up the alleys,
things like that, because you know, Jaylen Carter causes just
so much, so many issues.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Up and Jordan Davis had a great year.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
And I think that that we've seen, we're seeing defensively
obviously that edge rushers are important. Uh, but he was
inside guys man, They just they they they ruined, They
ruined games so much easier, so much quicker.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
And we saw him on Thursday night. Some of the
guys inside by Byron Murphy was incredible. Dude.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
They make life really really difficult for any offense.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Yeah, and that's ybe I I one of the great
acquisitions at the deadline was Jalen Phillips because Phillips has
has done a good because he's also really good against
the run. He does he does and he's very good
against the run. So they kind of solidified your defense.
The night game, to like is a great one. It's

(57:04):
Bears and Packers, and you know, the shame of it
for Green Bay is when you lose Mica, you just
lost so much, Like it's such a gigantic hole out
of their defense. Their pass ruts suddenly becomes from uh
yeah yeah, you go from being an elite defense to

(57:28):
a team that can't really rush the pass or without blitz. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
I thought that injury was way more impactful than the
Mahomes injury for this season, right, Like, I know we
spent a lot of time talking about Mahomes and that's
very unfortunate obviously, but the Chiefs were dead anyways, Right,
I came on here last week and we talked to
the brain. I was like the Chargers when that came out, right,
I told you guys that right. I just the Chiefs
are just dead right now, and but the Packers have

(57:58):
a real chance. Right in the NFC, we just talk
about how wide open it is. So not only do
does Parsons just physically him him being there changed defensively
what what they can do The Bears game A couples
ago is good example. They played the Bears the other day.
I remember it's fourteen three at half time, maybe seventeen
three at halftime, and killb Billyams was bad. He was
not the first half of that game. The second half
of the game. They have to throw the ball. The

(58:19):
Packers could not. They just could hit him. And now
you lose Michael Parsons psychologically losing Michael Parsons's huge shoot
because he's been playing really well last month this season,
like he sort of finally got healthy. And the ability
to get after the passer, to create issues, to have
to be double triple team that that opens up opportunities

(58:41):
for other guys, and him being out is such a
is so impactful. So for this game today, I don't
really know.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Man.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Look, the Bears have had good season. As we know,
KILEB Williams is starting to be the player that people
thought he could be. But to be fair, he's only
completely fifty eight percent of passes. Like, it's not it's
not great.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Ben Johnson's done an amazing job.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Correct, But I all but to my point, I do
think that the Packers without without person, I just I
don't like them in this game. Watson's a little beat up,
right I tuk A Craft is out for the season.
The thing, okay, I'm asking this question. When you watch

(59:22):
a Packers offensive play, is there one player person something
they do that scares you, Like, are you when you
watch it, you're like, oh, man, I gotta who.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Gotta worry about that?

Speaker 2 (59:33):
I thought the answer is nothing, and that's why they
are where they are right now.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Yeah, I think they are erratic. I think there are
times when they can look really good. When they got
Jacob's rolling and he's healthy, and he's rolling, and you
can play off of play action, and their receivers are healthy,
they could be formidable. Now, you know, Kraft is a

(59:57):
huge loss, but you know, if you get Jacob's healthy
rolling downhill and then you know the play action, the
Watson Devin Field.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
You know that you know that they could be decent.
But That's sort of my point, right, this feels like
a team that they're not. They're not scary, man, They're
not scared. I feel like, no, But I feel like
if you're going to be a division winner or have
sort of deep ideas to go in the postseason, you
have to be scary. And I just don't view them

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as a scary team.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
So no, the scariest team in the in the NFC
North is the Lions. Like that to me, they still
like put it this way, if they somehow got in,
I wouldn't want to play the Lions. I mean I
noticed secondaries beat.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Up at all, but there's defense kind of stings well.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Their secondary I mean they're hurt and Brian Branch, I mean, yeah,
they defense not very good. I I am their front'st good,
Hutcherson's good. Yeah, they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
They don't strike me as a team that would would
be terribly fearful about because they can't. They just they
they're not gonna. They got a ton of points of
how scary the was a ton of points.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
I don't know, dude, I like, put this way, Eagles,
they could go come in and beat the Eagles, Uh,
I mean they can I mean they are, they came
was what was it? What was it thirteen sixteen thirteen?
Or it was a low scoring game. The game here

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a few weeks back, seventeen six, wasn't it? Look at it?
Sixteen to nine? Thank you league? Oh man lead the
lap uh sixteen nine. I mean, you know, and that
was a game, the whole game. I was there. This
year just feels like every team and they're sing oh.

(01:02:04):
I don't know, at least I do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
I don't find myself attracted to really a team right
now that I think is like the overh only things.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
But my point is is that they still have the
scariest offense, Like they can beat you on offense. I agree,
Like if you take put the Rams aside, I don't
Seattle's side. I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
But I don't like them going as a wildcard team
through the through the entire playing outside three games in
a row.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
No, I don't either. My only point is is that
like I still won't want to play it. Like if
I'm the Eagles, I go, I prefer not to play it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
So you prefer to play the Niners if the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
So here's the thing. The Niners offense it's you know,
it's Shaman and they're there. They got bodies back, and
Kittle's playing well, and obviously CMC Jennings and you know,
I mean they're good. Jenny's you know, one of the
best in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Can't rush.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Their defense is awful. Yeah, defenses is worse than the Lions.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
They're a team that it's interesting because they're their defense
of numbers are better than their personnel. But that tends
to really even after postseason, right right, Like, because you
play your That's what I'm saying, Like the postseason, when
you play better teams, the lack of pass rush is
going to show itself to then degree. Right, So like you, yeah,

(01:03:34):
so I think that the that's a the Niners, dude.
Because of the Rams loss on Thursday, the Niners control
their own destiny.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
For the one seed. It's insane, man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
They get the Colts this week, who they should be
on Monday, and then they play the Bears, I believe,
on Sign of football at home and they get to
host Seattle. I tell you right now, if that game
Week eighteen is for the NFC Wester or for the
one seed, I will face Seattle so hard in that game.
I cannot wait. I will face Sam Donald, So I

(01:04:08):
will fate Sam Donald in the Sam Donald has played
two portant, really important games this season, and yes he
played well at the end of that game very night,
but also threw two horrendous interceptions, again in a big game, so.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
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coming up. Let's go back right back to it, because
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get to the big boy games like Miami am M
is going to be a really good one. And obviously
you know the two mismatches you heard Saban. In fact,
we played a little cut off it. Saban on McAfee
was like, hey, like what are we doing here? We
don't use the triple A champion to play in the
Major League Baseball World Series, So why are we doing

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that here? Which I thought was right and I loved it.
The analogy was harsh, but it was apt. I mean
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
But you know, this is the system that we have
set up. And if you want to blame anyone, you
need to blame they to see, right, because they didn't
they didn't do that. They hold hold they're part of
this deal, right, Like they had opportunity to, you know,
to get a team in the playoff and and Duke
won their championship, right A five lost team, So.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
That is a problem, right, So so blame them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Ok, Look, we all understand what is going to happen
to the G fives today, and that's fine, that is
but that's the system that we have set up and
the idea, and I think the idea that we've spent
weeks bashing the G five for it's not this is
none of their fault, right, Like they didn't they they

(01:08:00):
didn't ask for this, right, I think is wrong. I
think it's wrong for these these folks that are in
positions of power in college football to use their platform
to consistently talk down about G five teams.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Look, I agree with everything that everyone has said, like
the G five schools are not going to win these games,
They're probably not gonna be overly competitive. I agree with
all those things. I still think it's wrong that there's
been such this. This feels like a movement to bash
them for participating in this tournament. So look, would I'd
rather see Nord aim and BYU. Absolutely, I think those

(01:08:32):
are better games. I think that would give us a
better opportunity to find a champion. But this is the
system we have set up. And spending an entire week
or two bashing the G five programs I think is wrong.
I don't know how that makes you know, our support
better to spend you know, your time and energy talking
about Triple A teams like JAMU went twelve to one
man like that's their jobs to win the games on

(01:08:54):
their schedule.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
What they did, Wow, standing up for a little guy.

Speaker 6 (01:08:59):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
I Look, I'm not offender than being in the playoff either,
but I'm not going to spend two weeks to bash
them for that. It's not their fault. This is if
you want to bash themone, bash the system right to
put them in place.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Here the fault say I think that's what he's doing.
I mean, but but it feels like it feels like
these are direct. The more this goes on, we'll spend
on game dayDay and we'll talk about it. The more
they do this, the more it does for like a
direct attack right on on on them, on the on
the teams themselves, the players themselves. I don't know, I don't,

(01:09:35):
do you really you really think that, you really think
it's the direct attack because the more, the more, the
more that the more. Look, I get it the first
couple of times, but like calling them Triple A teams,
like come on like that, that feels they know, I mean,
they don't belong. They like football, you know, I know

(01:09:55):
you know, so I'm not you know, saying you don't
or anything. It it's just a disparity is so great.
I agree. I don't disagree, you know. I mean, the
concept of them involved in it is kind of foolish,
one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
If one plays a close game today, that's gonna it
was like a ruin the internet. It really will because
it's they'll be like, see I told you so, and
there's no there's no told you so. Because my my
thing has always been again like the goal of this
whole thing is to find a champion, right, and my
argument for for excluding the group of five teams is
that we're not. They don't help us find a champion.

(01:10:38):
And people put to Boys and to State like Boys
Day was a top fifteen sh team ten team the
entire season. They went to Oregon and lost by three.
JMU and Tulane have not been top twenty five teams
most of the season. There's a big difference between that
and and what Boise was last season. And it's not
a fair comparison really, you know when uh, you know

(01:10:58):
years back, you know u s yeah for Utah. But
the difference in the UCF Auburn game which everyone points to,
the UCF was undefeated and they beat Auburn, And is
that Auburn in that bowl game? It just lost the
championship game. The loser of a conference championship game often
loses their bowl game. Man, you know what the motivation
of that game is? Like, No, this is different. You
had the full motivation, the full win of preparation from

(01:11:19):
old miss and organ in these games, but just sort
of enough of the like attack, I just I'm kind
of over it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
We spent two weeks doing this. Now it's game day.
Can we just talk about the games? Now? Yeah, that's fair.
That's that's fair. And to your point, like you want
to be excited for him, like you don't want to
go into it. I mean, it's bizarre the way the
schedule is because A at Miami is the is the

(01:11:46):
crown jewel that DIDs the best game, and then you
got these two other games in great venues, right, and
i'd all miss and A Eugene And you want to
get excited for right, Like you just don't want to
be like going in with its sour attitude. Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
And you know people are complaining I've seen that that
because I put the best game early. They did that
because the NFL is on tonight, guys. That's why, like
the best game is in the slot where the most
eyeballs should theoretically be watching it, because the NFL is
on tonight. And as mucial as I love my Ducks,
I understand that people are watching the biggest game the
Bears have played in years.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
You know, Like I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
I get if you're watching Division, so I get why
fans would tune in tonight to watch you know, the
game between you know, the Bears and Packers. So I
get what you know, those the the n plus orchands
of Western You can't play an early game on the
West Coast. It's unfair to orchand they're gonna host the game.
They can play nine am local time. So I'm excited

(01:12:49):
to watch all the games today. But obviously it's just
to day of ball.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Man. I told my wife, like I it's its.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Game day, baby, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
How do you It's funny because the schedule, it's a
perfect day for college football playoffs. Yep. And but you're right,
like the NFL, man, it's just it's just the way,
just because it's so big, it's you know, it's the

(01:13:18):
death Star.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Well, collegeable could have played two games yesterday and two
games today like that. You know, they could have done
that they wanted to. But yeah, I know I thought
about that. Do you play one, a six and a
nine type of thing yesterday?

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Yes? Yesterday? Yeah? And you put the West Coast game
the later game, right, so it's you're not gonna you're
not gonna play at the same time, so you're gonna
try to stagger right, right, So you put the you
put the Laker on at nine.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Yeah, that would work. But you know, collegeable doesn't think
like that. They think the NFL should move for that,
which is never gonna happen. So it's just it's unfortunately
that's the way they think of it sometimes. But look,
the games are on. We're gonna watch them. We're gonna
watch the Bears, Packers play, We're gonna watch the Eagles
and Commanders play, and uh, we're gonna spend a day.

(01:14:07):
I'm not in the college basketball as much, but the
college basketball is because basketball slay today.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
This is a lot happening today. Yeah, it's great. I
still I mean football mode. I just can't.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
I can't stay watching college basketball. I think I retired
this week for the for a little bit. I tried
to watch one game. I just I couldn't do it.
It was it was it was so poorly, so poorly played.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Really, I still like college basketball. Actually I'd like it more.
And let me ask it is because game well coming up,
we'll talk about speaking of whop uh, I mean, all
the talk about the NBA Cup, I weigh in on it.
Let me hear what your thoughts are. We'll discuss that

(01:14:50):
as well. And the brain will join us next hour
where the fella is right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Say no, Fox Sports Radio, welcome back Fellas and Jeff

(01:15:14):
and uh As. We uh hang out on a beautiful
Fox footballs Saturday. So the NBA Cup, my man, let
me just let's just get your kind of overall you
want it, like I listen, we won't get it. I
don't know how you feel about it in season tournament.

(01:15:36):
You know, we all understand it, trying to replicate the
champions League and and and I get it if there
were more teams involved, like if there was an international thing,
it would work somewhat, I guess, But the way it's
the way it's constructed, it's kind of baseless. And the
real issue is it gets completely lost to like you're

(01:16:01):
doing it now on the teeth of like the NFL
and football, and it's just kind of weird.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
And it believe it was in Vegas, right, so you're
not even like at a home site. So it feels
very it feels not very personal right to win the championship.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
It feels fake, is what it does. Like it's a
try hard piece.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Look, I certainly think that building camaraderie through this tournament
can be helpful for your team, right, I mean, clearly,
you know, these teams are having an opportunity to be
together to sort of win something together in the middle
of the season, but it's meaningless for the rest of

(01:16:44):
the season, Like the Knicks are knocking it out win
the championship, the Lakers, I mean, my team won won
a banner whatever this was two three years ago. It's
unimportant for that. I think if you're if you look
at it from the lens of like team building and
just sort of the idea that you know, we can
have an opportunity to to win something together as a
team again experience of what that feels like to play

(01:17:04):
better in the postseason. Sure, but the Knicks had a
deep postseason run last year, right, Like they know what
that feels like without having to play. And the tournament
it felt like this was designed originally for teams that
are not going to see the postseason, and this was
going to be an opportunity for them to make more money,
right and being an opportunity to play the national spotlight. Instead,

(01:17:27):
you got Spurs who have not been in the postseason.
But we know because Webby's been hurt and the roster
has been.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Great against the Knicks who were there last year, right,
And so I think they were hoping this was going
to be like Portland against someone in the East, like
just teams that were not expected to be there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
But just it's hasn't been. It hasn't been that case
at all. It's been Lakers and Knicks. Like it's not
what NBA I think wanted this to be. Well, and
I also think it's not for now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
This is has nothing to do with Aren't Day and
more about establishing something for the future, right, Like that's
I think this is more about, you know, hey, let's
try to establish this tournament and in ten years when
there's another you know, there's another generation of basketball fans.

(01:18:19):
They've grown up with it. It's hard to come into sports,
make it change. Care all about this? Well now they don't.
But like I don't know that a lot Like who's
to say when future generations will find interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
I mean I even argue that the new generations that
actually come in the NBA with a lot more money
in their pockets because of NIL will care less about
winning some money in the NBA Cup. Like part of
the rangement for this was that and Lebron talked about
this when the Lakers won, like he wasn't he wasn't

(01:18:54):
excited that they won.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Well, he was excited they won for.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Themselves, but he was excited that a lot of guys
at the end of his bench, she's got a lot
more money in their pockets that they're like that need
you know, they need to fire one thousand dollars Like, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
I'm not even told about the players because this is
about the fans. Like the fans are going to adopt
the fan doesn't care that the players got to love.
I think you're talking about are the players gonna care more?
I'm talking about the fans. I think they're they're doing
this not for the now generation, but for the future.
NBA fans like to grow something. They're trying to grow it.

(01:19:30):
You can't. Sports is something that has that it's hard
to put new stuff in. It's got to take a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Yeah, I don't know fans will ever care about this
unless it there's some sort of correlation to winning after this, right,
Like if we find out that the champions of this
were going to NBA Finals every year, like I think
they'd be a lot more in But it's just it

(01:20:00):
just hasn't been that case yet, and so I think
that we're not going to see the buy in from
fans until that happens.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
See, I don't think they my fig the fatal flaw
is the same teams, right, Like it's the same teams.
What makes the Champions League fun is that it incorporates
the four biggest European leagues. So if you add a
global kind of component to it, the greatest teams in

(01:20:30):
Europe play NBA teams, all right, Like I could see
that being interesting. Yeah, I don't think anyone will do
than this. Ever.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
I think it's it's more likely this is no longer
a thing in ten years than people care about it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Maybe. I mean, you know, I can see that coming up.
The brain will join us and we go back into
a big day of football. Fellas, you're listening to Fox
Sports where good morning, good morning, good morning, happy happy
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(01:21:10):
got no fellas live in the Fox Sports radio studios.
You getting ready for three big college football playoff games today,
some NFL games, big slate tomorrow of NFL games, some
really good games going on. Uh and then uh and
then we got Christmas week. Wow, how are you? How

(01:21:32):
are you? You're good because your family's about to go
to yeahs go skiing. We are We're different, We're we're
about to. Uh the stress of Christmas midweek is a lot,
all right. And then we got family coming over and
the house got to gout in shape and I'm in

(01:21:54):
the doghouse because you know, there's a million things around
the house that I haven't done, so my wife just
stormed out. I also don't talk about Christmas, so it's
it's it's for me. It's a Chinese food day as usual,
and day to watch sports. I remember as a kid,

(01:22:15):
the Low Hullble used to be on everything. Yes, it
was like it was like always UCA playing that gig
because they were they were, you know, disappointing during the season.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
And I got to watch a Low Hall Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
But now we have them. We got three NFL games.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Unfortunately, the couple quarterbacks hurt, so the games are not
as good as they potentially could have been. And uh, yeah,
it's become a football day now. I mean, I know
the NBA tries to own it. Unfortunately, there are NBA
games on Christmas, but the NFL is like no, no, no, no,
we're going to own the day.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
Sorry. No, it's amazing, right like they it was. I
was having this discnversating yesterday. Christmas Day was the NBA day.
It was a huge NBA day. It was first and
foremost NBA. I remember when I was in New York covering.
I was a sports writer in New York. You know,

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I would I was younger and didn't have a family,
so I would do the Chicago Christmas Day games or
the Knicks games at the Garden, and you know, it
was a big deal. And then football said no, the
NFL said, now it's hard day we're playing and uh,
and now it's you know, just like Thanksgiving Christmas the

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same way.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
It's so funny because you know, I see people say
stuff like, well, the NFL is getting too fat, and
they're gonna get little pump fat.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
You know, pas gets slough. I don't. I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
I think that until the ratings show otherwise, which it
just hasn't shown, that people are gonna keep watching man
in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
The NFL is king.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Yeah, the ratings keep showing that it doesn't matter if
they're good bad. I mean, we're gonna have a game,
you know, on Christmas between the Broncos and Chiefs without
without Patrick Mahomes, people are still gonna watch. Everybody still
gonna watch. I agree as much. And think about it.
You know, the Chiefs are out of it. There's no
my Homes and that thing will outdraw whatever else is

(01:24:10):
all that night. Yeah, it's a wonderful life. I mean,
I don't know whatever. You know what I'm saying, I've
used it. Well whatever about sports, you know, it's so funny, man.
Uh people people say things like, well, so and so
doesn't rate as high as it should baseball basketball, it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
Still rates higher than the rest of everything else is
on TV. So it might not be the NFL, it's
still better than everything else though, so like like I
never understand that, well, NBA, the ratings are down, the
right is still better than general hospital, Like they're better
better anything else, Like, look, what are we doing? You
better than anything else on TV? So, and by the way,
people go, whoa, how calm? You know? Sports? Sports, sports,

(01:24:55):
get out here for my wife or whatever, and I go,
well average, correct, it's the only thing that people watch it. Yeah.
The only time you could actually watch a commercial is
during a sporting events.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
Correct well for me in my age group. I'm thirty nine.
I don't watch TV. I watch sports, and I watch
streaming platforms. So the only time we get ads to
me is on sports is when I watch Rice. I'm
not watching network television now. My wife watches some nightly news.

(01:25:30):
I made this joke many times, but it's only true.
Like my wife is like the perfect consumer for like
what like what people think?

Speaker 6 (01:25:36):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
You know, like my wife watches like the nightly news
and she watches like you. It's like she watches presidential debates.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
I'm like, what what what? Why?

Speaker 5 (01:25:44):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
Why are you watch? She's like have you heard this before? Yeah,
I'm on social media. I picked at all this stuff
my wife watches. She's like the perfect consumer. She watches
the nightly news still and it's it's it's wild but
nonetheless Adds the only time I see Adds darting sports.
And I think a lot of people in my age
group are the same way.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Well, yeah, I don't. I don't watch anything, but I
mean sports guy, you know, like an n C I
S guy and not a who me. Yeah, I'm just
my favorite thing too.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
When my my parents come to town and I look
at my d VR and it's just like all the
CBS shows they've taped for the entire week. Yeah, I
have to delete the ball, But I don't know what
am I gonna do with seven episodes of Blue Bloods?

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
Yeah? No, I hear. I'm kind of offended that you
actually thought I was a network TV guy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
I don't know, man, you write, you know you're a scriptwriter,
like I don't know if you like have to watch
for for ideas or for things.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
To think about. I'm trying to. I'm trying to do
uh streaming stuff right where it's which is which is streaming? Man,
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Like this, this Netflix deal to put pot cast on
their platforms, certainly, it's very fascinating because this is a
game changer if it actually works. Where you take your
your podcast off YouTube, you move into Netflix and you
know you're you're not gonna see the streaming numbers immediately, right,
but if you can get people to tune into daily

(01:27:17):
programming on Netflix, I'm very curious about this and how
it changes the streaming world for podcasts, for sports podcasts.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Ah, dude, I've I'm with you, man, It's very It's
a very it's big. It's big world. We're already starting
to produce different things.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
And it's very fascinating to see if it's if it
is it's a barstool thing, barstool Netflix, if if it's gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Work, Oh dunkin man, she's great, like, you know, kind
of curious. Yeah, well it just opens up. Listen, everybody
wants a piece of sports, right like, so yeah, I
mean I was having this conversations earlier before the show
when we do our project that I l and there
were congressional hearings on youth sports, right yeah, And what's

(01:28:07):
happening is fascinating. And obviously the price. Everybody was talking
about the cost, and you know, and you and I
touched on a little bit earlier about the price of
youth sports. But reality, what we're doing is it's become
so huge in our society that we're creating a professionalization

(01:28:29):
of sports really from all down. Like we're talking about
college football, but high school the same way. Like they're
already teams high school teams that play national schedules, Like
the big programs in high school will play there three
four non league games that are against national teams. I mean,

(01:28:53):
they'll jump on airplanes. My high school play a team
from Philly this year. Yes, we play Norman Conflict. I
think it was yes, yes, yeah. We wind up winning
the state championship and I think we've beat them by
one at home. It was good game. But like, yeah,
we we we do. I mean our mind school does

(01:29:13):
it all the time. Yeah, yeah, there there is, Like
that's that's where we're creating this whole world of sports
because it's just monstrous, right like, and so everybody wants
a piece of it. The streamers want a piece of it,
and it's it's basically, you know, kind of moving. And

(01:29:34):
it's funny because our system are we go from our
networks to streaming and in reality, we're just going to
replicate the network model on streaming. You know that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Yes, but but are people going to to realize the
switch has been made and started watching.

Speaker 6 (01:29:59):
On what?

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
Like, are people gonna realize the switch of the Maine
They're gonna start watching? Yeah, at some point everything will
be yes, yes, I mean because at some point the
network's morph into what they are right Like they're they're
all just apps, right like, they're all everything is digital.
So you know, it's just it's just everything will just

(01:30:26):
become streaming. Everybody's got streaming outlets now anyway, right, Fox
all local Fox has streaming. You know, it's the digital world,
and it'll just become like the network model. And it
goes from network where there's a finite amount of channels,
to cable where there's a lot of channels, but now

(01:30:47):
to streaming where there's infinite choices. But the big dogs
are still the big dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
Yeah, I'm just I'm I'm you know, very fascinated by
what what this will look like for sports in the future.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
It's just more and more and more, right, I mean
that's kind of how I'm looking at it. I mean,
like they're gonna expand the college football playoffs, right, so
they need to do that. Like last night was a
great It was a great game. It was great theater,
the game was terrific, the setting was great. I mean,

(01:31:26):
you know, other than unless you're an Alaholma fan and
you're devastated, it was fun. So I could see them easily,
you know, just expanding this whole playoff.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Well, they're expanding the playoff because Notre Dame didn't make it,
but also do you see all the news that Notre Dame.
I guess i'd signed a memorandum of understanding where that
they're a top twelve team, they're automatically the playoff, which
I can't believe that they. I mean, the amount of
have your when you're kicking it too for Notre Dame.
The fact they don't have to join the conference and

(01:32:01):
then they get a guaranteed spot they in the top twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Yeah, that's that's Yeah, there's no sympathy from people now. Again,
I think they got hosed. But the reason why, I
get the reason why, you know, this whole thing was
a shot to say, dude, like you guys got to
join the conference last year, you got twenty million dollars
that you didn't have to split up. Everybody else had
to split up, split the money. You didn't have to

(01:32:28):
split the twenty million. That's what this whole thing's about. Correct.
I don't agree, Yeah, you know, but I think they
expand it because it's just gonna be worth expanding. And
as the bowl games become less and less important, you
just incorporate some of them in the in the playoff.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Yeah, I imagine that's what happens, you know. I still
I'll tell you what manute. I'm maybe I'm just old school.
I still like watching these ball games. Maybe it because
I want to the dude during the day. But like
yesterday eleven am.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
I watched it. Well but yeah on a teal field
and Myrtle Beach, like, so yeah, I'm starting for enough
at a halftime.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Well, yeah, it wasn't a great game I had it
was on me. But I'm I'm I'm, I'm in on
on the bowl game still, even though you know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
At c State CJ. Bailey. I mean, I'll take some
Friday afternoon bowl games. I love the day game. I
get football during the weekday is awesome. I I always
love that stuff, So I agree with it. Sign me up.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
I'll take I'll take as much football as I can get,
and I'm never I'm never.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
Turning it down. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of how
we are. But I wonder what the future holds for them,
right That's the that's the biggest thing, is like, what
what's the what's the future going to hold for ballgame?
When it comes to players opting out and teams declining

(01:34:05):
to go to a bawl.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
You know, I still feel that if Notre Dame had
had forty hours to decide they would have gone to
a ball game.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
Yeah yeah, cooler heads, Yeah yeah, I'm with you on that.
All right, So we're gonna get the brain up and
then we're gonna go through all of the all of
the weekend, beginning with Miami and A and M and
then through your bulls, so real quick before before we

(01:34:41):
get to that, I do I do want to ask
about Oregon in this sense. So what's the what's beyond
this game? How do you feel about them? Making it?

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
Yeah, making that run feel great. I think it's a
very balanced team. I think that we have shown this
season the ability to win in many different ways, which
is hugely important to success. Right Like, we've won, we've
won shootouts, we won close games. I trust our team
and at the end of games, which is again I think,
look at Dante Moore are kicking our Our kicker has

(01:35:14):
been great this year. Our defense does not allow explosive
plays that we do the things that we have to do. Look,
Texas tack will be hard for us. I think we're
overall better team do I mean, you obviously win those
games and once again the semi finals, who knows we're
gonna play Indiana potentially, like they're a very good football team,
as we know they would be us this season. But
I think in this year we have a good a
chance to anyone to be near the near the finish

(01:35:35):
line at least, so guarantees obviously, but I'm okay with
where we're at right now, especially if our wide receivers
come back healthy, which appears that they are today.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
So how many teams do you think can actually win it?

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
I think there's three. I think it's Ohio State, Indiana,
Georgia team, right, I mean, who who are you? Who's well?

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
I think Texas Tech. I like Texas Tech.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
Yeah, we disagree on I think their offense you less
than ideal agains the better teams they play. Their offense
has not been as good. Uh and they're really bad
in the red zone, which which really concerns because if
you can't score touchdowns, you know the defense is great,
but just remember to the final score in some of
these games is not really thinking of how the game went.
Remember Utah Texas Tech was a three point game. I

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believe in the fourth quarter, like their defense is keeps
him in a lot of games and really allows them
feel position wise for their offense to have success if
they run up, but look, Oregon will be the best
offense they've played all season. Be hard to score, but
look to be fair, Organ's also played some rego defenses
this year and managed to put up yards in points,

(01:36:48):
So it'd be a really really fun game.

Speaker 1 (01:36:50):
I can't wait. I kind of believe that. You know,
why can't Oregon win? I mean we can.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
I think I just think that things have to kind
of go right for us. And I think it's a
long tournament. I mean that's part of it too. Look,
I just don't know. If it's a long tournament, I
think it's hard to pick. Winners are depot, will be tested.
I gotta see. I just have to come back healthy.
Dude like, yeah, well you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
You're right, You're not beating Indiana, Ohio State or Georgia
without those kids.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
So it appears that two are back today, the two
I expect to play. Evan Stewart has not played in
a year. I don't know what Organ fans keep thinking
he's gonna play.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
He's not.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
But the ability to have those guys back in the
lineup will change a lot of things. I think our
quarterback has shown all season, incredible poise, We've made the
big plays. We've had to make out sid Indiana game,
which feels like the outlier for us, just how we've
played so far this season.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
Yeah, there's a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
I just they're my team and I can't get ahead
of myself, like I we're gonna win today, but yo,
let's be let's be at Tech and then I will
probably be uh in Atlanta for the for the Peach Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
Nice. Nice, So that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
I feel like I feel like, if it's a four
hour drama, they have to go.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
I have to go. If a semifinal gets Indiana, yeah,
I think you gotta go Indiana. We we both agree
they'll beat Alabama, right, yes, yeah, yes, I think they
roll Alabama. Yeah. I think so too. I think it's
a bad matchup for him. I think they'll they'll really
struggle to move the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
Indiana, by the way, had a sneaky bad injury at
the end of that the gain in Ohio State, though
with their best defensive tackle, got hurt and it's out
for the season. It appears like that that's that that
they're a team that doesn't really have a ton of
depth the front, and it's really good, and they're down.
I think I think they're there. I think one of
the other tackles is out for the season, and now
you lost. I think they're down another one that got

(01:38:43):
hurt earlier this season, so I double check on that.
But that that is a problem, Like that to me
is like that's It's just they're a team that is
very top heavy. They're very good at the top. Yeah,
and we didn't get a chance, by the way, to
talk about Heisman. I'm just glad I don't hear from
Pavia ever again. If I never have to hear from

(01:39:03):
ever again, I'll be a very happy camper.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
I just can't. I just can't do it, man, I
can't do it. Yeah, the wrong way, dolly. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
And look, I'm fine with cockiness, like I'm flying with that,
but it just feels a bit like it's look because
being cocky is fine, but when you add in like
the f Indiana and screw the Heisman, voters like, bro,
come on, man, who are you? Who are you to

(01:39:32):
tell the voters go f off?

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
Yeah? Yeah, no, I feel you on that. All Right,
We're gona take quick too. We'll come back. Brain joins us,
and we go deep and examine each of the big matchups.
A lot of fun this time of the year. Jeff
Schwartz Anthony Gargano hanging out on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
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Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
Welcome back, Fellas and Jeff, And let me take a
moment to thank our fine production team, Mighty Mark and
Lee in for Bree. Always great to work with. Lee
and of course Mighty Mark, our main man every week. Guys,

(01:40:28):
always doing a great job. We appreciate the boys behind
the scenes. Now joining us to take a look at
the entire weekend's card. It's gonna be a lot of fun, man,
a lot of good football all weekend long. The Brain,
Good morning, Brain.

Speaker 6 (01:40:45):
Good morning guys.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
How are you We're doing well? Man? What'd you make
of last night? And uh the suoner meltdown?

Speaker 6 (01:40:54):
You heard of this same turn about its fair play.
It's interesting those two games. If you watch the first team,
those two teams played, and you watched last night's game,
it was literally the exact like opposite. Like what I
mean by that is first game. Yeah, Alabama absolutely should
have won and they just didn't. Yesterday, I mean I

(01:41:15):
lost by Oklahoma was just again a lot, I mean awful.
I mean Alabama is just not good and they just
just an awful loss. Awful. I mean, Oklahoma really played
them one hundred percent should have won the game, but
they didn't, and Alabama goes on.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
I mentioned earlier that the postgame win expectancy in the
first game was five percent Bama like it was. It was,
it was a joke obviously, yesterday it flipped. I am
a surprised the Oregon JMU number has not moved at all.
I grabbed twenty and a half immediately and still hasn't
moved at all. Is that a function of people betting

(01:41:55):
on GMU? Is the ticket count just a little bit
less right now? I'm just surprised that jam you would
be a side people would take. I don't know the football.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
Reason for that.

Speaker 6 (01:42:05):
Yeah, Jeff, I absolutely agree with you. JM you again,
I mean, Jami is just not a team that she
even be on the field with, you know, with this team,
I mean, they really shouldn't and it's gonna you know,
I bet Oregon, I bet Oregon over their team total.
I think Oregon getting healthy on the offensive side of

(01:42:26):
the ball, wide receiver wise, especially Jeff. I think Oregon
will win this game by severe margin. I will not
be surprised if they're covering at halftime, let alone the
end of the game. I don't understand how anyone is
going to bet on the jm you here, but you
know what, teach their own. But I agree with everything
you said. I again, I will not be making I

(01:42:49):
think this is a severe mismatch.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Uh how do you size up a m Miami braid?

Speaker 6 (01:42:56):
You know, it's it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
I think.

Speaker 6 (01:42:58):
I know I mentioned this to you initially, I like,
I really Miami's been playing I think certainly better. They
kind of had an interesting year. They started off house
on fire, then they kind of when they hit that
Louisville game kind of kind of which he leveled out.
Now they've been playing better again, both teams getting more
healthy again. But you know, Anthony, I know I said
this to you before I go. There's something just about

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Mario Crystobal that reminds me of James Franklin. It's not
meant a positive, it's just meant in a way where
I feel like just bad things happen to that guy
in big spots and just and I'll go to me
as a coach I really trust and respect. I think
A and m wins the game. Just something somehow, I
just I cannot trust Miami and they're coaching staff in

(01:43:41):
a big spots. It's time and time again it seemed.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
To fail anything for two Lane old mess in this game. Yeah,
be close a little bit. What how's this one going
to go?

Speaker 6 (01:43:54):
Well, you know, Jeff, look, obviously Mississippi has right all
the coaching things. Was obviously a distraction. These teams played
earlier this year actually had tou Lane got killed. They
beat them, I think by about twenty eight or so earlier. Yeah, Okay,

(01:44:15):
out of the two games, the game I'm more confident
in of these two lesser teams getting in is Oregon.
To be honest, you I bet Oregon. I did not
bet this game, but I absolutely would be on the
Mississippi side. But I just have a little more faith
in Oregon in terms of covering that I do than
all missed them all missed with my fight again again,

(01:44:36):
I don't think these two Having both these teams in
to me is just just really not good for the sport.
This isn't the unstateable a basketball where you know, you
can get these Cinderells, And to me, it's not that
at all. Yeah, I wish we were saying Notre Dame
in here and not these two teams.

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
Do you any thoughts on you know, how these games
are going to go high scoring, low score, Any thoughts
on the total?

Speaker 6 (01:45:01):
Well, I like, well again, team, I think Oregon's going
to score. I think Oregon's gonna have a lot of
success on the offensive side of the ball that would
be in terms of the total. My biggest individual lean
Anthony is I think Oregon offensively will have a lot
of success. I like the way they've been playing recently
and again the actually getting healthier. I think Oregon can
actually make a little bit of a run potentially in
this tournament. And I think the most likely winners are

(01:45:24):
going to be you know, obviously Ohio State, Indiana and
to me, Texas Tech. I actually like a lot as well,
but I think Oregon would actually maybe be the team.
And actually even put forth.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
Looking to the NFL today, the night game is really
fascinating because I think that without Parsons there the Packers
are just a much different team. How do you view
this game? I think the Bears are still They're a
slight home favorite. Last I checked.

Speaker 6 (01:45:49):
You know, Jeff, this is a great I mean I
bet the look ahead mine big the Bears plus three
and a half. I didn't understand the line at all.
I thought the Bears should have been like flight favorite,
and now it's gone that way. The lines moved five
and a half points, not obviously all because of Parsons,
but Bears have some injuries to the Jeff, I mean,
you know, I do think some of their receiver injuries

(01:46:12):
are somewhat significant. I think the total I agree with you. Obviously,
Parsons is one of the calm six best defensive players
in the NFL. But I do think the total is
still a little bit high. I don't love either offense.
I just don't, and Bears defense is actually playing a
little better. I like the under in the game at
current numbers. Again, right now the Bears are laying too

(01:46:36):
lean Bears, but not betting it at Bears.

Speaker 1 (01:46:37):
Again.

Speaker 6 (01:46:38):
To me, the edge was getting three and a half,
not laying two. But I do think under forty seven
has some value because I don't I don't trust necessarily
either offense to get twenty seven points here. I think
it's an under game.

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
Could see it all right. The other game is the
Eagles game. It's Eagles and Washington. Again. I look at jeez,
Washington just has no teeth on defense. So I gotta
believe the Eagles offense has a love of day where
they look good.

Speaker 6 (01:47:10):
It may be the case they made a small bet.

Speaker 1 (01:47:12):
That's what.

Speaker 6 (01:47:12):
A small bet on Washington getting seven. Not a game
I love, but I thought the numbers should have been
closer to like between six and six and a half.
Small bet on me for Washington. But again, look, anytime
you take a team like Washington that's playing for nothing,
that has nothing, you could argue get what you deserve.
But I just the Eagles to me, have been a
team all year. There's just massively disappointed in terms of

(01:47:35):
expectation versus what they've actually performed on the field. Again,
only a small bet.

Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
For me though, a game that I did wager on.

Speaker 2 (01:47:44):
Here in the NFC South, the Panthers are getting three
points at home against the Bucks. The Panthers good bad,
good bad, good bad now for eight weeks in a row.
Hopefully we get to go. But this is more a
play on Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay right now is not good.
They're not playing good football, hasn't been that way in
six weeks. Their coaches is f bomb and the team
at you know a postgame press conferences. I think the

(01:48:06):
Panthers are gonna win this game. I'll take the three points.

Speaker 6 (01:48:08):
Though, Jeff, we once again we agreed, and I didn't
understand this line at all. I think this line is
slat out one or a half points at least too high.
Taking three to me again, yeah, I agree. It's a
fifty to fifty close game and go either way. I'll
take the three points, and if timp b wins, guess
what it could easily be by one, two or three.

Speaker 1 (01:48:28):
I agree with you.

Speaker 6 (01:48:29):
I bet I bet the Carolina getting three as well.

Speaker 1 (01:48:32):
So I'm a I'm an outlier here. I hear everything
you guys are saying, and I'll you know, I get it.
It makes sense. They did score twenty eight points. They
were up twenty eight to fourteen before the meltdown. Tampa
is healthy. Now you got three backs, Bucky's running the

(01:48:52):
ball well, all your receivers are healthy. I gotta tell you,
I don't believe even Bryce Young, I don't believe in Carolina.
I like their defense, but I'm not buying it. Man,
I'm not buying Carolina. And I still I know Tampa's
defense isn't what it was, but I still I got

(01:49:16):
I gotta go Tampa in this game.

Speaker 6 (01:49:18):
Yeah yeah, I don't like again Anthony, I don't like
Caroline either, but I just uh, I always again, I
question it. Baker Mayfield talthy because after those first six
weeks when people were talking MVP, until he's played extremely
below average the last seven weeks or whatever it's been.

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
His shoulder, shoulder.

Speaker 6 (01:49:37):
Yeah yeah, so to me again, I I and these
guys are so tough. And Jeff, you know that you
played in the league. I'm sure there's so many times
you watch guys play that the general person has no
idea how hurt they are. And if they don't play well,
they get criticized. But it's amazing they're even playing for
all I know. You know, Baker is just really just
gunning it out because he doesn't seem like the same
player to me.

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
Right now, now, I let's do this. Let's take a
quick too, we'll come back, we'll go through the games
tomorrow and then, uh, we got the because there's some
big ones then and we'll take a look at maybe
some of you guys are tapping into some future stuff.
We'll look at the college football playoffs again. So we

(01:50:19):
got the brain. Hang tight, We'll take a quick too,
come right back and run through it all. Where the
fellas right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 7 (01:50:30):
You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, all right,
welcome back fellas, Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargano and the Brain.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
You miss any today's show, be sure to check out
the podcast she search Fox Sports Radio wherever you game podcasts.
Shortly after you'll see this one post and raf we
go off the air. Alright, let's do it. Let's go
through tomorrow and kind of where we're at. So tomorrow, boys,
I'll throw the both of you. We'll go through some

(01:51:05):
of the games. I do know the brain likes the
Saints tomorrow. That line is skyrocket and suddenly now up
to six and a half.

Speaker 6 (01:51:14):
Yeah, that's got again. This opened at three, Yeah, and
that was I loved it at three. I got even
some more at four. Mail's up to six and a half.
You had definitely a different wager at that point. But again,
I actually still clearly on the Saint Some look, we
have a Saints team that since me at the quarterback
switch again, maybe maybe Tyler Show is the actual future

(01:51:37):
of the team. Potentially He's played really well against the
Jets team to me that there is absolutely nothing uh
Saints playing well again toughly that many points.

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):
I get a lot of people like shuck, yeah, Jeff,
what do you think he's played well? He's played well.

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
I mean it would be Saints. I mean the number
now is ridiculous, but I think back when it was
you would bet the Saints or nothing. This game, there's
some I like, I like some ugly sides this week,
but just feels like it is every NFL week.

Speaker 1 (01:52:06):
All right, So I want to go through the game.
Do you tell me if you guys have an opinion?
Bill's Brown's no opinion for me on that, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
I would play the Browns if I had to play
the game, but I'll pass Chiefs and Titans.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
I love the Titans.

Speaker 6 (01:52:24):
Yeah, I bet the Titans getting three and a half.
I mean saw three again. This Chiefs team, I look,
if this is to me, is going to be a
very tough situation for them, Anthony, with what they're going through.
I think the Titans win the game.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
I told you guys last week to bet the Chargers.
I thought Chargers.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
You're right, You're right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
I think the Titans win the game, out right. I
took them three and a half when the when the
line came out obviously adjusted with Mahomes injury. I just
the Chiefs right now this they have nothing to play for.
Their offense wasn't good with Mahomes. Now you have a
backup quarterback in there. What's the motivation for this game?
Chris Jones? Beat up, offensive line, beat up? I just
I just the Chiefs. It would not surprise you.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
They just it's gonna be bad. I like Tennessee, all right,
Dallas and the Chargers. Cowboys one and a half now eliminated.
Brain Yeah, well, I mean that's now last after losing
at home in Minnesota.

Speaker 6 (01:53:24):
This to me is one of the harder games on
the board to pick because the people are talking about
your Cowboys, and Jeff you pointed out astutely their defense stinks.
You're like, what are people talking about? But people were
probably getting a little over league Zuber on this team
Chargers to me or a team that the coach is amazing,
the quarterback's amazing, everything else. I just don't get. I

(01:53:44):
think Dallas wins the game, but not a game. I'm
playing hardest game on the board for me personally, I like.

Speaker 2 (01:53:49):
The Chargers of this game. I just think that their physicality.
Now to your point, they basically have to win once
one sort of way, which is tough, but I think
it's gonna out physical. Dallas run the football, control lives scrimmage. Defensively,
Chargers are playing really well. Obviously the Cowboys present a
lot of challenges for them, but the Cowboys defense is
not is not good at all.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
So I lean Chargers here all right, Vikings and Giants?
Where you at with this one brain?

Speaker 6 (01:54:21):
You know when I think it's two and a half
right now, when it was three, I lend leaned Giants. Look,
I'll say this, McCarthy, after what ten straight or eleven
straight whatever, it was atrocious weeks. Last two weeks he's
actually played pretty well and now he's another eight matchup
my co job. I like justin Jefferson Anthony. I mentioned
this sup before he over his receiving yards and I

(01:54:42):
need even an alternate bet getting seven to one odds,
he gets two hundred yards. I feel like this is
a spot where he finally kind of can break through
fifty five and a half yards. Think's a little bit
too low.

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
I actually took I took money on uh. Will Darby
evaluated for concussion in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:54:58):
I took the yess.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
I just you know, cover my bases, you know, I
find an alternate market to wager on. No, I got
nothing for this one. I I just don't trust McCarthy
and the Giants. I mean they've lost twelve in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
That yeah, Miami Cincinnati Cincinnati four and a half. The
big chick quarterback chains uh taus sits down and Hewers
gets to start for the Dolphin's brain.

Speaker 6 (01:55:29):
Yeah, I mean look, and obviously the big move in
the line based off that I never liked yours at
text as much or what you thought. Jeff was never
really a huge fan. But upposedly in the building they
like them. We'll see. Uh. To me, the game's a
complete pass.

Speaker 2 (01:55:45):
Why are Bengals favorite over anyone on the road. I
don't mean the three the three of us can play quarterback.
I don't I don't really their defense is atrocious. Their
offense had their worst game of the season last week.
The Dolphins could run the football like I think that,
I think chan whatever, I don't even look like his
his his combined rushing receiving yards. It's gonna be like
I'm gonna guess one thirty like in say number one

(01:56:07):
thirty five. I mean, I just the Bengels being a
favorite of anyone right now is silly to me. The
way Joe Burrow's talking, the way they played. I'm not
sure I'm taking the Dolphins plus four and a half,
but I don't like the Bengals here.

Speaker 6 (01:56:23):
Yeah, that's sure, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:56:28):
Denver, Jacksonville, Denver three and a half? What do you got?

Speaker 6 (01:56:32):
Break again? Open? Two and a half. I didn't get
the line. I thought it should have been between three
and three and a half. I know a lot of
people like the over in this game. They're a lot
of shark people. I know. I don't agree with that personally,
but the current numbers to me, this game is a pass.

Speaker 1 (01:56:49):
I three and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:56:51):
You only you go to bet Jacksonville, but man Trevor
Lawrence on the road in a big game, it's pass
pass on that. I think two and a half would
have been the spot to take Denver in obviously no longer.

Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
Available Atlanta given three on the road in Arizona.

Speaker 6 (01:57:08):
Brain, Yeah, not a e game I'm doing, Drake, lend
this those lead back for this one. Arizona just so
banged up, can't win anything. I mean, just not a
game I'm getting involved in.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
I think these are the worst and toughest games to
bet on because both teams are out of the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
Like what what?

Speaker 3 (01:57:25):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
Yeah? What?

Speaker 2 (01:57:28):
This is like a bowl game?

Speaker 1 (01:57:29):
Who Who's who's more motivated?

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
Who?

Speaker 5 (01:57:31):
Like?

Speaker 6 (01:57:31):
I no no idea, Jeff, I got to answer you
a quick question.

Speaker 1 (01:57:35):
I know.

Speaker 6 (01:57:36):
But when you played you mentioned something about Kansas City.
How I just they have nothing to play for? Jeff,
you played a lot of years in the league. Was
there tients and games where again, obviously you try every game.
I get that, but you just kind of knew in
the locker room like, man, it's just going to be
It's just you could just tell like everything the vibe
wasn't good and it just wasn't gonna be your day. Like,
as a player, do you kind of know of those things?

Speaker 1 (01:57:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:57:57):
But I also was on a turn the Yeah, but
to be fair, it was only one time, and it
was when I was on a two and fourteen Panthers team,
like you knew. Like otherwise, you go into every game
thinking it's gonna go well, and then obviously that can
change pretty quickly. But you go into every game thinking
that you're gonna win, except when you are really, really bad,
which is why sometimes I just say, like, I just

(01:58:18):
think this team is sort of they're sort of done
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:58:21):
But you go into most every game you go and
thinking you're gonna win, no matter the odds. But on
a bad, bad team I played on, we definite knew
we were losing.

Speaker 6 (01:58:30):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
Let's go Steelers and Lions. I like Detroit. I like
Detroit's totals. I think they scored a ton of points.
Bray and I talked about this. I think Gibbs has
a great receiving day out of the backfield. I think
they just can't Matt in Pittsburgh's defense gonna get slaughtered.

Speaker 6 (01:58:54):
Well, as I told you, for me again, I hear
you on that. But I can't lay seven points with Detroit.
Thing would be Pittsburgh for me.

Speaker 1 (01:59:01):
I do with Greef.

Speaker 6 (01:59:02):
Pittsburgh I mean Detroit should be able to score a lot,
but right now I ranked their defense thirty two out
of thirty two. I'm not take laying seven points with
the team. I don't think it's stop a college team
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
Man, this is always like the bight Tom on one
spot right that you're like, what there's like, oh that
Pittsburgh has no chance they win the game, right, But
I still think it's it's a stayaway for me. Bob
would leave Pittsburgh or nothing. I the England Baltimore.

Speaker 6 (01:59:31):
Yeah, I this was my biggest stead of the week.
I don't understand the line, I really I can't. On
the byball, I don't get it. I think New England's better.
I don't understand why they're this big of an undergog.
I didn't understand the New England Buffalo line last week though,
either in fairness, but this one I really don't get.
I think New England win's the game out right.

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
That's fast because I'm on New England too, and I
think people are of the mindset that because of their
loss last week, they're going to emotionally be down this week.
But the Raven's offense can't score.

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
Their offense is not good. I wouldn'tan I take the
three points with New England now, I a great I
love the patrons of this game, Niners and cults on
the Monday night. Niners. You said it earlier, Jeff Well,
I don't know where you guys feel, but Niners kind
of hold their own destiny. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:00:19):
I bet them in eight poorn and win the division.
Last week I kind of saw this happening. It's like
coming down. I think to that last game where they
play Seattle. In my opinion, Oh look, here's the thing.
You know, Rivers man, he just watching. He really struggles
to throat the ball. I guess it's not surprising. I
just can't lay that many points here with San Francisco.

(02:00:41):
I just can't do it. Stay away game from me.
I think Sancisco wins the game, but not a game
I can't get at the scheme of the way.

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
Thanks Phil, Rivers Unders, That's what I would do every day.

Speaker 1 (02:00:53):
Hey listen, guys want to wish everybody happy holidays. Jeff,
enjoy your week. Everybody else Merry Christmas, enjoy it. We
love you. Fellas are out

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