February 25, 2022 • 43 mins
Scott Ferrall, a kingpin of nighttime sports radio makes a special visit to the podcast. Big Ben and Scott are long-time radio friends. As host of “Ferrall on the Bench,” Scott has dominated the nighttime airwaves for decades. Ferrall tells tales of his gambling sojourns to Atlantic City, the legendary raspy, gravelly voice, friendship with Howard Stern, working as the PBP voice of the Atlanta Thrashers and his plans for the rest of his career now that he’s decided to step away from the drudgery of nightly radio. You can still see and hear plenty of Scott on Sports Grid each day from 3p-6p ET talking sports gambling, follow Ferrall on Twitter @ScottFerrall Follow Danny G Radio on Twitter @DannyGradio, Follow Big Ben on Twitter @BenMaller, and listen to the original "Ben Maller Show," Monday-Friday on 400+ terrestrial Fox Sports Radio affiliates, iHeart stream, and SiriusXM Radio channel 83, 2a-6a ET, 11p-3a PT!
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done this for a while. And I am excited to
be joined now today by one of the greats to
ever do sports talk radio in the United States or anywhere,
a man who jumps off the walls when he is
on the microphone, the o G of late night radio,
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Scott Farrell. And I'm happy to call Scott a friend.
I have known Scott over the years. We worked together
at Fox Sports Radio many years ago Scott briefly passed
through the hallowed hallways of fs ARE in Los Angeles,
but even before that, when Scott did the syndicated show
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Farrell on the bench which is his signature program, which
was heard nationwide on Westwood One for so many years.
Scott also briefly did some stuff locally in l A.
Before I moved on to Fox Sports Radio. I was
doing local radio in l A. And Scott has worked
at the biggest sports talk stations in the country. W
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f AN, can be R in San Francisco, big talker
in Atlanta, Los Angeles, you name it. He's been all
over the map and has been on television with David Letterman.
That I can go through Scott's resume, but I'm sure
Scott will do better than that. So we are excited
to welcome in the great Scott Farrell, who's still actively working.
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I posted a photo and we'll get into the Scott.
I posted a photo of you, and many people are like,
oh my god, I love Scott. I listen back in
the day and uh, which is cool. It's it's great
when you lose track of somebody and then they pop up,
somebody you listen to on the radio and they pop
back up. I mean, Scott has worked for Howard Stern,
for God's sake, So let's get into it. He's joining
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us now from a suite at an unnamed hotel in
Atlantic City and he has been up for a few
hours now as we are having this conversation. So Scott,
has the trip been good or bad in Atlantic City? Well,
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it was it was a really good trip because uh,
I guess a good and bad mostly good. Though. The
thing is, we just woke up. We went to bed
at five in the morning, and we slept for a
couple of hours and we're gonna go ah fat blackness
right now. Um, and we came to get tons of
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money that they ows the sports book because um, they
shut me down. Bottom line has straight up no joke. Uh.
If you win a ton of money in Vegas or
in Atlantic City or any uh sports books the mobile
books in California, you know, you guys are living in
like the wild wild West of the eighteen hundreds. You
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guys don't have sports bedding there exactly here in New
York City and uh in Jersey. Uh, they make the
millions of dollars every month, um, betting on sports and
I'm pretty good at it, as most people know. My
whole shows about sports betting, and it's been that way
for about thirty years. But anyway that the reality is, Um,
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you know, we made a lot of money. Uh let's
just say uh, I mean a ton of money, and
they shut us down right, so we can't we can't
bet anymore with them, so we can't do uh see
the pie piper. We came to visit to get all
our money and they gave it all to us. And
it was creepy because I went in at you know,
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I don't know, twelve thirty one in the morning to
the um casino where they have the sports book, and uh,
I went to the cash here and I said, I
want all of it, and the guy looked at me
like I was robbing the place. And I left with
all of it. And it was funny because I was
I was kind of tripping, and you know, like one
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in the morning, here I am was a giant bag
of money. And then I was with my buddy and
I walked with him and I said, um, if anyone
even comes near me, I'm gonna gouge the f and
I house. I'm literally yeah. I said, you're gonna see
a side of me you've never seen before. You've never
seen the side of me, but it's gonna come out
if anyone comes near me. Because I had a bag
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of money that most people will never see in their lifetime.
And then afterwards we took pictures of it. It was
the funniest thing. We went up to the suite. It
was a badass suite. It's the size of Texas, and
we just poured there's bag of money all over the
bed and then we took pictures with it, you know,
just for our family and no one else, because I
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can't be showing that it's picture to anybody because it's
I don't criminal know. All I know is I left
here with a ton of money and my buddy loved
to leaven more money, and we're gonna go eat breakfast
and make fun of people, and um, we're gonna have
to take the bag of money into the restaurant with
us because I'm not leaving it in a car. Yeah no.
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So it's just it's like out of a movie, right, Scott.
This is like you're you know, you break the casino
and your did they did they give you the bag
or did you have to bring the bag for the money?
How did that work? They gave me the bag and
the guy was funny. I said to him, I said, uh,
I go, who's better than you? Mitchell, and the guy
was like seventy and he goes partly, I said, who's
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better than you? Mitchell? They would no one. I go,
that's my Metchell. You know what's better than you because
you just gave did And then when he counted, when
he counted, I was like one, two, three, and I
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go fans and my curked dance bands and my Currked
dance bands and bands and making cantel right now now
I'm naked in my suite. I just took his shout
band has and make curd bands, macre dance. And let's
just say, um, I'm not talking uh, I'm talking roll
over roll over six figures. I'm not talking to six figures.
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I'm talking roll over six figures. I could run in
this account for in a matter of I guess six months.
And you know, in about through the four months, maybe
not even six months. It was like the last half
of the NFL season and Bold season, and I guess
a little touch of NBA in there as well. And
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you don't even funnier is that I have a just
dancing right there naked in my sleep and made me
breathe heavy. Not a good sign. But I did play
basketball last night and I did have ten five one
one and one the one gume the one steel of
the one block shot to go, oh, it was nice.
But we have a bet, this guy and I and
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he's a lot smarter than me, and I'm just better
looking to him. We have a bet on MBAT as
the m D p at plus three thousand for ten grand.
Can you do that mass? That's three large? And when
I looked at the guy in the mirror in the
in the change, I said, I'll see a stint. So
let I'll see you. So I want to don't get
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a bigger back. So Scott, do they put your photo
up in the casino earlier like band now because you
took too much money? How's that work there? Well, what
happens is they take they make you stand there and
they film you and so they have facial recognition. And
so when I go in and when my buddy goes
into the sports book, we're not allowed to back on
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sports anymore. That's because because they don't like They don't
like people that win. They like people that are stupid
and that lose. They love those people. They'll fill you
up with drinks, give you a room, give me a steak. See,
I don't want all that. I already got rooms, sweets,
got sweets. My buddy sat down last night with fifty
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large to play black jack, and in less than thirty
minutes he had sixty. And I said, get up in line.
That's line. That's done now. Even it was how much
funny I go. I didn't want to cheek to look
at me anyone I looked at her. I go, don't
look at me, don't mean look at me, don't want
to me. And She's like, uh, I was scared of
death of us, scared to death of us. They thought
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I was some kind of criminal because you know my voice, uh,
rather grading and painful and a cidy and I'm just
you know, I'm scary. And if I raised my boys,
people think I'm yelling. And I'm just like, we gotta
go now. Now we got sixty, let's get out of here.
We went to a change and to get the money
to get the ten large on top of the fifty.
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I'm sitting there and there was a guy. I swear
to God, there was a guy sitting there at two
thirty three in the morning, and he was watching the
nature boy. He was watching Rick Flaire did some kind
of in ring speech at the w w E event
like Wrestlania, and I was like, I looked up in
my mondy hand, going there, what's a rich Flaire like
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happen here? And I was like, you got any weed, Scott?
Are you playing his sleep at all today? Are you're
just gonna He's gonna stay up? And I got a
little I got a little sleep. We had a game
last night. This guy's a teammate of mine. He had
eighteen three threes. Grollballers undefeated again and UH we won
by sixteen. We didn't even cover. The spread was twenty.
(11:30):
It was unfortunate. Usually we cover and blow people out.
With the students. Some guy in like six or seven
threes were playing this huge UH league in New York City.
It's all over the country. There's a lot of believe
or not. There's a lot of former D one players
and being a retired players, the plan that it's pretty
cool and it's high level basketball spit. It's the only
thing I have obviously athletically in my life. I played
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tons of basketball. I'm big. You see how big I
am When I saw you, I'm six four to twenty.
I mean business and I'm I'm Rick Mhorn. I'm dirty
and I can knock down shots from anywhere. But I
play with us, dude. And uh, not only do I
play with he's my he's my good friend. And he's
an incredible sharp, he's heavy, he's a he's a better,
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and he's a sports better for his you know, that's
what he does for a living. And he makes let's
just say, um seven figures a year. And all I
know is, um, he's fun to hang out with. So
now now that you've been booted out of Jersey, you
just moved to the next stage. Is that the movie?
(12:35):
Because you they they're legal betting in New York now, right,
so you can go to there's a lot of sports books.
So let's just say we're going this morning to breakfast.
We're gonna PLoP in I think thirty into an account
with a different sports book, and we're gonna start a
little relationship with them. Uh, we we've been uh you know.
Bottom line, there's a couple of them. There's a couple
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of them that were not allowed to bet in. Uh.
You know, you got to come to Atlantic City to
beat but you have to come to Atlantic City to
be the kind of money that we bet, and you
have to um, you know, you have to put that
kind of money in the in the account. It's collateral.
You can't just make those kind of bets unless you
have the the juice. So we start the account small,
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you know, and then we build them up and then
and then we come back down here, you know, late
at night. You get a suite. He plays black jack, uh,
and I count money. You gotta run a script on
this guy. It sounds like a future movie. You gotta
made this. I gotta tell you, it's more fun than
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hanging out with my life. So I was hot though,
I gotta tell you. I took pictures of it, of
me with the stacks of money, uh, coming out of
my ears, and I made a really funny face, and
she wrote me back, it sounds funny, I said, getting naked.
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I'll be home for three hours exactly exactly. The new kitchen.
She's getting a new kitchen out of this. She she
can careless about me the sports show. Uh, the show
as I do, the TV, the radio, my career. Uh.
She just wants some money, which is what I appreciate about.
It's like a real New York You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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you know, give me the money. It's all about the Benjamin.
It's all about the Benjamin Scott Challenge. You can watch
the Super Sports tonight to go ahead. I'm going out
with my friends. We're gonna sleep with other men. Uh
So I posted the photo Scott of you and I
and I had a bunch of people that listen to me.
(14:45):
It was like, I love where you know? They lost
track here for They're like, where have you been? What
have you been up to? You bounced around the radio
dial and you've been doing the show for a while,
and now you I click on these website Scott, I
see your face, you pop up all over a place
here with what you've been doing, these these streaming videos
that are all over there, like what have you been
up to? Give the people that have lost track of
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the great Scott? For what have you been doing the
last couple of years? Well, man, I do so. I
was at I guess the quick story. I was at
Howard uh Sea Channels at Serious for eight years. I
did Howard one on one at night and my job
was to bring millions of men to Howard Seed. I
was able to do that and it was an incredible experience.
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I was not on the school. I'm good friends with him.
I dig him. He's the best, he's a great boss.
He's an incredible guy. I love him and from friends
with him. It was an incredible eight years in my life.
I loved it. Nothing better. I've ever had a better
job in my life. It was a lot of fun.
I was repulsive, disgusting, filthy, found mouth. Uh criminal, I
(15:52):
was criminal. I was felonious on the air. I did
everything that you uh shouldn't do ever on the radio
in it, and I did it exceedingly well, and I
did it constantly, and it was it was just an
absolute disaster of epic proportions and it was phenomenally kick ass.
And then I uh, I went I believe and I
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saw the writing on the wall. It was like the
channels were changing and it was going to be more
about Howard. And I looked at him and I said, listen,
I got't know, but I go back to CDs and
working on a pension I got for twenty five years
and uh, and he said. I showed him the offer,
he said take it, and I said, I love you.
I gave him how I left I went back to CDs.
I did CDs months radio tended to people say, why
(16:36):
would you ever do that? I did it for the
I did it for the money. I did it for
the pension that I had, and so I got um
thirty three years of pension. So if I die or
you know, when I'm sixty five, I get it every
month till I'm dead, and you know the deal. But
I was in a sad after I got had it, uh,
and the CBS, you know it was I was in
a Union shop. I worked in the Union for most
(16:59):
of my career, and they owed me a shot ton
of money. And all I know is that's why it
was kind of Vatican Radio. I thought it was soft.
It was definitely a p radio, like you know, uh,
we'll see changed the letters. And then I was, um,
I was you know, I was cool and everything. I
did it and it was fun everything. But I got
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an offer to go to sports Grid, uh from lou
May owned who's the owner, and he runs the whole thing,
and he's from Wall Street. He's you know, uh, just
worth tons of money. And he's like, we're doing seven
sports gambling on this on this streaming television network. We
want to putting on TV and we want to talk
about sports betting all day. And I was like, okay,
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So I took the offer. It was a risk, but
I'm crazy and I take chances and I'm a better
and I said, I'm gonna bet on this sports betting.
I've been doing it since you've known me, man, I
couldn't long before I knew you. I did it in
the Uh you know, I've been talking about sports betting
is basically on. I've been doing heavy national radio sports
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betting talk, spreads, you know, everything money on its teasers
or versus everything. And then, um, you know, I finally
got a chance. I was always in troubled Scott. You
gotta stop with all the gambling talk. It's just like
they treated me like I was a pedophile, like it
was selling heroin to kids. Well yeah, I remember, yeah,
probably know. Finally I went to work for somebody that
(18:27):
gets it, like a twenty crowner, uh sports you know,
Gambling Sports Betting Network. It's incredible, it's cool. It's on
every streaming service in the world. It's on all smart TVs,
Same Sung TVs, Busy O TVs, lq S, TCLS uh
it's on um, you know every row loose playing, Uh,
(18:48):
YouTube TV, Apple TV, It's on everything. It's everyone like kids,
Uh you know a T thirty. All they do is screen. Um.
Most people that are old and can't get up off
of a sofa, they don't even know what it means.
But most people that are into it. That's the world
that we live in now, right, So I'm on there.
We got fifty two million viewers. I did a super
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Bowl show after I saw you. I did a super
Bowl show for four hours and I had a million viewers.
That's awesome. It's awesome. Yeah, I c Scott, I got
rid of That's that's where I am. I got rid
of cable myself and I I have seen I have
a Samsung TV, and I've seen you on there and
some of the other guys, and I'm like, wow, this
is pretty cool. And uh yeah, I mean that's the
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and the council. But I want to go back to
the gambling stuff because I remember when you when I
first met you, and you were doing the Westwood One show,
and you would talk gambling, and those were the days
where it was taboo, right scot. You had offshore books
and it was only legal in Vegas and you were
and I did Neighborhood Bookie and all that stuff, and
you weren't supposed to talk about it on the radio,
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and we used to get dreamed from programmed just like uh,
you know, I remember people complaining, you're not allowed to
do that, it's illegal, you can't you know, you can't
do it, blah blah blah blah blah. And you always
had an edge to it. You always found a workaround you.
You you were always pushing against the machine, which I
love about you because a lot of guys don't do that.
They just gonna. I did. I did it, and I
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got into trouble a lot. I was always I was
always in uh the suits office, since I was always
getting yelled out by lawyers. Um, I was always being
threatened and I was always loop fired. I've been fired
a lot, right, So I took uh, I took those chances,
and I was kind of, uh, I was kind of
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the face of it and at the forefront of it,
and I was the troublemaker. And I was like trying to,
you know, do something unique in radio where Milk composer
told me to do it, and when mel kinds and
told me to do it, I did it, and he
knew what I was doing made sense because he knew
the black market of it. You know, hundreds of millions
of people do it around the world and they all
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have bookkeeas or whatever, and everybody's into it and that's
all people care about is who's gonna cover the spread.
So I did it, and I got in all kinds
of trouble. Let's just say I have a really good lawyer.
Um I had, uh. The FTEC after me. I've I've
beating them in court five times. I'm five and oh
against them, and they told you get me for everything,
(22:52):
everything you can. I can't even go down the list.
I don't even like to talk about him. So like
my phonal range to day, like that's how bad it was.
So when I went a serious I got away from
the FTEC. That was cool, but I went back to
see us everyone thought I was gonna get busted again
and that I would say something dirty or get fired
or get in trouble. I know did and that went
a sports grid started doing TV. But when COVID hit,
(23:13):
they made me do radio. Here they have a radio
network and I was on Serious one to nine, I
was on in San Diego and my ever time ninety
I was on uh TO Networks National Sports Map in
Houston and Sports Finline in San Francisco. And I just
retired from doing that. Um, after thirty eight years, I'm
not doing the late night radio show anymore. That you've
seen you do like you've done You're a warrior. I
(23:36):
know your deal. Like bro, you and I go way
back with friends. You're you're a warrior, badass, You're like
a grinder. You've done the overnight thing, the late night think.
I've done it for thirty eight years, so I always
tell people I think I've done my time. Thanks, Um,
how weird is it? Those guys? How weird is it
now that you've done it? Like I was wondering when
I when I'm done with radio, Like, what's it gonna be? Like?
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Is it? Do you do? You miss it? Are you cool?
Because you're still doing the other stuff, so you're still
doing me. I mean I finished Friday, was my last
show radio. I'm not saying I'll never do radio again,
because my TV shows now in the afternoon or on
like twelve to three l a time, right three to
six East, they're all on radio. They they simulcast my
TVs on on on all those networks. I just told you,
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and it's still on. So I'm still on. I'm just
not doing late night radio anymore. And it's real simple.
I did it and it ruined my life. Um, when
you work at midnight six or tended to or eight
to midnight or tend a midnight, Uh, you have to
know life whatsoever? Was e family, kids, nothing. It's just
the hardest thing in the world to do, is I believe,
(24:43):
is overnight radio or morning drive where you have to
do up at three in the morning. So I did
morning drive in New York against Howard Stern for one
year and I wanted to kill myself. And then I
did it at Miami and I was number one in
MYNI in mornings. But I also had a problem there,
which is, um, you know my party, Like I was
on Miami Advice, I mean, I literally would show up.
(25:04):
I literally I got off a cigarette boat, I was
covered with boost and love it whoa. And I was
just like, I can't do this. So I kept doing overnights.
I get thirty six or thirty eight years in a
late night radio and I just think it's it's it's
it's not for everyone. You gotta be a hard ass
and a badass to do it. It's tough. I got
(25:25):
a guy to me the other day that does it
really well, Maurnzi Gabriel Morncy know that is and Lourenzy.
Renz's done it for twenty years, but it's like fifty two.
And I said, you know, I think you're the most
hardcore guy I know. I love him. Funny's tripped out
his whacked wild because me twenty years ago, right, And
(25:46):
I always tell him, I said, you'll never touch me.
I'm like, you're you're the man. Now, you're the badass.
Now you're the craziest dude that he's crazy. You're you're
really good at what you do. Ben, You're incredible. That's
why you're as good as you want what you do.
But this guy's nuts. He should be in in a
mental institution. Okay, and he should be living in a
cuckoo's nest mental institution. He's so funny and crazy and
(26:08):
insane and nuts. And I said, you'll never make it.
You got eighteen years suggect to good luck. He's sitting too,
and he'll never do another eighteen years of it. He'll
be dead. I've always said I think that I've set
the bar high thirty eight years of doing it, and um,
I don't want to do it anymore. I just don't.
Like people are like, why would you stop do? Because
(26:29):
I aptain hate it. I'm like, you know I've done
I've already, you know I've done everything, and ready, what
more can I do? I told people it's really simple.
They want me to do after the drive over, you know,
noon to three years, I might. I would do it
and bring tons of money when you make the offer
to me. And I know that radio won't do that
because radio is still achieve suits and want of the
(26:53):
losers that like think they're badasses and they just aren't.
And I am a badass and I don't play games
when it comes to this stuff. I know all the tricks,
all the moves, all the deals, all the dirty stuff.
I've seen it all so and I've had the most
agents in the business, had done buck Ball. You don't
gonna learned anything from Don buck Walls after twenty years. Really,
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I know how to cut a deal, and no one
in radio can afford me. Yeah, well, that's the problems.
I mean. This week, the big story is Troy Aikman
getting like a hundred eighty million or something like that
to to go to Monday night football. That's the story
I mean. But to me, Scott, people tune in to
hear what you have to say. I mean, you did
this for so long, guys like you and I, But
(27:38):
yet the radio guys aren't making that kind of money
like the the NFL guys are to play by play
in the broadcast. I do well, I do well. I'm
not about the money. I'm telling you to get me
to do late night radio again. Hey, it's not gonna happen.
It be. The only way I haven't even ever considered
is doing, like I said, after for mid days or something.
(27:59):
And you have to me a lot of money. I've
done radio for so long. I started doing the Bob
Night Show when I was eighteen years old. At fifty
six going on fifty seven. I played basketball, um and
I eat everything I see if I like. I went
to dinner last night in a Chinese place. I said,
we're closing, I said, I said, I'm here. I'm gonna
eat everything that you had left. I'm gonna eat the
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entire goddamn kitchen. I'm here to spend money and get
your food. You're gonna bring it out to me, and
I'm not leaving. And the guy brought me ten plates
of food. We had duck going and everything I said.
And then I threw money, and the guy, when I
let him, just threw a bunch of money out of
I said, I touch you. You You weren't closet, and I'm
the best guy you had here all night throwing money
at I'm leaving here and I'm flowing money at you,
(28:43):
and you're now happy. And they guy gave me a
high five. I thought he was gonna do it, and
it was gonna pull my tens down to do. All
I know is is that I want to have fun
in life. I'm fifty six and I want to finish
with a bang. I want to get laid. I want
to travel the world. I want to have fun. I
want to take money from sports books. And I want
to eat everything I kept in to see everything. I
(29:04):
want to eat everything. You're living waking up people in
this casino right now, in this suite, I've broken up
seven or eight neighbors of people getting had a bed right.
You know what I say is that my boys just
crushes through walls and goes right into the liver. Scott,
when you were tell me about that when you were
a kid, did you always did this voice change at
some point? Did you when you were a little kid,
(29:25):
a little Scott at the elementary school? Did it sound
It must have sounded different. At what point did you
realize I got something here? This is a this is
a weapon. I think when I think when I was fifteen, right,
my boys, uh turned into this and it's really simple. Sorry.
My dad had a golden throat. Right. So my father
I was an anchorman with CBS and in the nineteen
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lasted forever, and he left and went to work with
US Seal in Pittsburgh and um he he was a
powerful suit with U S Seal for forty five years.
When he retired, he ran steel mills in Europe for
another ten years, made tons of money and he had
(30:07):
a golden throat. So he was an anchorman that had
the two bartlet Tone boys good evening. He was the
national guy at CBS at the time. He would have
been Tom Broke, all right, And I kid you not,
that's how good he was. Because when he was in
UH television, he went to UH he was in Kansas
City out of Missouri Columbia, Great Broadcasting Jollison School, and
(30:28):
he was doing Missouri football and he was doing everything.
And then he ended up in Kansas City. And then
he got bigger and bigger and bigger, and then he
eventually left the business. So he never did what I did.
Like he he wanted to do this his entire life
and and it didn't work out that way. He worked
in the steel business and he became a powerful executive,
right but my boys, my boys never made it to that.
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and very as it is today, based on I believe,
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I'll go back to that now. I obviously been a
bit a fan of Stern over the years, Scott, but
(33:42):
you knew, you know him, he's a friend of yours.
There is. He's not a sports guy though, right. He
goes to Knicks games every once in a while, but
he's not really a sports guy. What do you guys
talk about? Well, you know, I would say he's one
of the funniest kids I've never met, Right, very funny,
it's very smart. Right, So that's a pretty good combination
(34:02):
if you want to hang out with someone. Uh, that's
you know. I love smart people who I love funny people.
I love exciting people, right, and he's one of them.
And um, I just you know, I got a huge
kick out of him. And obviously I wondered how this
was coming to fruition of like, how is this guy
he really doesn't like sports at all? Because the next
games to be seen not to watch again, he doesn't
(34:24):
really follow sports at all, zero, but he is, Um,
you know, there's only in the things that I'm not
into you know, paintings and animals and you know, uh,
photography and stuff like that. He said he's into that
kind of stuff. And you know they saved dogs and
cats and all this stuff that's and and how that's
what they do. He's a money Like when I would
(34:48):
hang out with him with my wife, like I would,
we would go dancing, we'd go party and um, I
could sit with him in a in a bar at
a party or something and talk about farting for half
an hour and you know, just the conversation about ripping
the perfect farm, the dry lasting ten to fifteen second
ripper if it's dry enough, and clean it up and
(35:10):
you can and you to carry it for you know,
ten to fifteen seconds. You can do a lot of
damage here. And I would have these conversations with him
about farting, and I thought it was like the greatest
thing ever, Like who do you sit around talking about farming?
That's like no one, you know, Howard sterns. So it's
a very funny guy and he's um, he's brilliant and
(35:32):
so things like that, like I gotta kick out of him.
I would go to uh, he'd have a party, right
and and like a Christmas party or a birthday party
or something, and he would throw the biggest party you've
ever been to in your life. And I mean it
would be the greatest party you've ever been to ever
in your life. And then he'd beat us like sixteen minutes,
and then he'd leave. I'd be like, this guy's I mean,
(35:52):
this is just that he walks in everybody. He makes
it makes, you know, contact with everybody since hide, everybody
has a drink. Everybody's just so excited that he's there.
They're all just swinging from his nuts. And then he's
out the door, FID. And I was always like, that's
that's crazy. I go, that's incredible. I used to that.
But he was. He was a really normal person to me.
(36:14):
That was great to me, you know what I mean,
Like there's no one really describe it. Like I really
looked up to him. I love him. He's been great
to me, to my family. Uh. Special guy always supported me.
Uh And one one last said once, um ever, not
even close did I ever swing from his nuts. So
(36:36):
you were there was mutual respect, you weren't that he
totally respected him. And I always high flighted them to
be like where are you ups? I go, I'm gonna
che a game O the day? Are you easy? I'm
gonna have fun and I'm gonna head on women all day,
all day long. I'm gonna hit on every chick I see,
and then I'm gonna go sleep with my wife. She's
(36:56):
hot too. He liked that. He liked that I was.
I that was crazy and fun and uh that that's uh,
you know, he's not, you know, crazy, but he's definitely
fun and he's got his but believe me, he's got
his shot together. That guy's got more money coming out
of him than a federal reserve. I always thought that
was pretty cool too, Like people always question how much
(37:19):
money he made, and I was like, I just think
it's so kicking us that he has all that in cash.
I mean, I think it's just cool. So I was
always uh good fannel what he was, you know, it
was cool. Like I got to go on Letterman twice
and then I worked for Howard Stern for eight years.
Everything else can basically uh get on their knees and
not me. I'm not doing that, Scott. I'm not doing that.
(37:42):
But I know I that's how I looked at it.
You know what I mean. Like I was, like, there's
nothing else left for me to prove or do. I
got to I got to work for Howard Stern and
if you don't like that, then you're stupid. And then
I got to go on Letterman twice. I mean, David
Letterman loved my show and I loved him. He was
kind of my hero. And to go on there, Um,
I got a I got a boner. Yeah, no, that's
(38:04):
all I mean. And not only that, the thing also
about you and your name pops up, the fact that
you did NHL play by play in addition to everything else. Scott,
the Atlanta Thrashers, the long lost Atlanta Thrashers. How did
how did that? It didn't last long? But how did
that happen? Scott? Well, it didn't match long because they
didn't have the balls to have me keep doing it. Um,
(38:27):
millions and fans loved it. And there was no one
that was crazier on the radio doing play by play
than name. My fights were the best, my call games,
we were the best. And no one ever said I sucked.
You never heard that. All you heard was is that
I was crazy, and I was I was out of
control and I was drinking beers and a press bound oxen.
(38:49):
He swung a hot stick with a microphone on it
and almost hurt people. And he broke all the rules.
I'm not allowed to go out with the players and
drink all night in nightclubs. And he would go out
and twink with players and night clubs. And you're not
allowed to go out to dinner with the players. And
he was always got to be dinner with the players,
allowed to go to their homes. And when I saw
(39:10):
their wives walking naked in the kitchen when I was
at their home. Because everyone loved all the players loved me,
I partied with them. I broke all the rules. He said, Scott,
don't do this, Scot, don't do that. Stop on a
sport coach, Scott with a tie, stopped stowing the practice. Scott,
don't drink, Stott sitting the plane and shut up. And
I was like, you know what they said to me
at the end of the year, what do you wanna do?
(39:31):
I said, I want to go home. I said, we
want you to go home to its God gave me
for three more years and I had a four year
guarantee deal. Best shot I've ever had. I got a
paycheck every two weeks or four years. Greatest deal I
ever cut because the three years I did nothing. I
just got the best weed you could smoke in the world, right,
I just said, every time I walked down the driveway
to get that chat, I just smoked up fatty and
(39:53):
I was like that. And the Thrashers went broke and
they moved to Felipeg. What's better than Matt the story?
I come back on him anyway. They moved up Farrella
Peg and they still suck and they don't matter. They
went and I got to work for that Turner, which
is really called that Turner. Loved me. Everyone loved me,
but the people that the GM Donalodell, he's still in
(40:16):
League runs Carolina. He was scared to death of me.
Kirk Fraser, the coach he was, he loved me so
much that he couldn't even admit it. Uh. Andrew Brunett's
the coach of the Panthers. Now he won't even have
many knows me, but believe me you when I tell
you he knows me. And we had a lot of
fun together. They all know me. You're boy. Rayed fer
Rao wrought my name at him and the guy hope hut.
(40:38):
But I started shooting because they none of them know
what to think of me. And I got fired, right, Yeah,
not gonna fired fifty times like getting fired. To me,
he's different than most people. I was like, trust me,
I told you before. I know, I got a deal,
and so they take me for you know, it's even funnier.
The man that hired me ran the uh. He ran
(40:59):
there for academy, he ran the Olympics. His son was
the phrase hearty Chiller. He's not the chairman of the
board a sports thread the company I learned for now.
But believe me you, I love Harvey. I looked up
to him. He's a legend. He's a general right from
the Army and he um from the Air Force and
I and I always looked up to him. He's incredible.
(41:20):
And now I'm working for him again. And I'm working
for Hi because I'm good at what I do. And
I'm also a lot older and a lot wiser and
one mature. When I was a drastic, she said, I
play a guy. I was an absolute radical gangster. Yeah,
you were living the light. And I didn't go into
that job thinking it was pussy. I can be doing
um hockey play by play. I didn't go into it
(41:43):
like that. I was like, I'm gonna make Harry carry proud. Yeah,
and you did. Hey, Scott, we gotta we gotta wrap
it up. Man, you're the man. And uh, I'll watch
you on my my TV. They're doing the gambling stuff
and during the day and any we'll have you on again.
But you're you're one of the greats and everyone I love. Yeah,
you know I love you. I'd only do this for you.
I'm now sweating in my uh, in my suite, and
(42:06):
I'm late for breakfast, and I would only do it
for you. You know. I love you. You're great what
you do. I've always been a fan and a friend
of yours. It's great seeing you and hope to see
you again soon. Thanks for having me on the interview
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(02:21):
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I posted a photo and we'll get into the Scott.
I posted a photo of you, and many people are like,
oh my god, I love Scott. I listen back in
the day and uh, which is cool. It's it's great
when you lose track of somebody and then they pop up,
somebody you listen to on the radio and they pop
back up. I mean, Scott has worked for Howard Stern,
for God's sake, So let's get into it. He's joining
(03:46):
us now from a suite at an unnamed hotel in
Atlantic City and he has been up for a few
hours now as we are having this conversation. So Scott,
has the trip been good or bad in Atlantic City? Well,
(04:07):
it was it was a really good trip because uh,
I guess a good and bad mostly good. Though. The
thing is, we just woke up. We went to bed
at five in the morning, and we slept for a
couple of hours and we're gonna go ah fat blackness
right now. Um, and we came to get tons of
(04:28):
money that they ows the sports book because um, they
shut me down. Bottom line has straight up no joke. Uh.
If you win a ton of money in Vegas or
in Atlantic City or any uh sports books the mobile
books in California, you know, you guys are living in
like the wild wild West of the eighteen hundreds. You
(04:50):
guys don't have sports bedding there exactly here in New
York City and uh in Jersey. Uh, they make the
millions of dollars every month, um, betting on sports and
I'm pretty good at it, as most people know. My
whole shows about sports betting, and it's been that way
for about thirty years. But anyway that the reality is, Um,
(05:13):
you know, we made a lot of money. Uh let's
just say uh, I mean a ton of money, and
they shut us down right, so we can't we can't
bet anymore with them, so we can't do uh see
the pie piper. We came to visit to get all
our money and they gave it all to us. And
it was creepy because I went in at you know,
(05:35):
I don't know, twelve thirty one in the morning to
the um casino where they have the sports book, and uh,
I went to the cash here and I said, I
want all of it, and the guy looked at me
like I was robbing the place. And I left with
all of it. And it was funny because I was
I was kind of tripping, and you know, like one
(05:56):
in the morning, here I am was a giant bag
of money. And then I was with my buddy and
I walked with him and I said, um, if anyone
even comes near me, I'm gonna gouge the f and
I house. I'm literally yeah. I said, you're gonna see
a side of me you've never seen before. You've never
seen the side of me, but it's gonna come out
if anyone comes near me. Because I had a bag
(06:18):
of money that most people will never see in their lifetime.
And then afterwards we took pictures of it. It was
the funniest thing. We went up to the suite. It
was a badass suite. It's the size of Texas, and
we just poured there's bag of money all over the
bed and then we took pictures with it, you know,
just for our family and no one else, because I
(06:39):
can't be showing that it's picture to anybody because it's
I don't criminal know. All I know is I left
here with a ton of money and my buddy loved
to leaven more money, and we're gonna go eat breakfast
and make fun of people, and um, we're gonna have
to take the bag of money into the restaurant with
us because I'm not leaving it in a car. Yeah no.
(07:02):
So it's just it's like out of a movie, right, Scott.
This is like you're you know, you break the casino
and your did they did they give you the bag
or did you have to bring the bag for the money?
How did that work? They gave me the bag and
the guy was funny. I said to him, I said, uh,
I go, who's better than you? Mitchell, and the guy
was like seventy and he goes partly, I said, who's
(07:22):
better than you? Mitchell? They would no one. I go,
that's my Metchell. You know what's better than you because
you just gave did And then when he counted, when
he counted, I was like one, two, three, and I
(07:42):
go fans and my curked dance bands and my Currked
dance bands and bands and making cantel right now now
I'm naked in my suite. I just took his shout
band has and make curd bands, macre dance. And let's
just say, um, I'm not talking uh, I'm talking roll
over roll over six figures. I'm not talking to six figures.
(08:06):
I'm talking roll over six figures. I could run in
this account for in a matter of I guess six months.
And you know, in about through the four months, maybe
not even six months. It was like the last half
of the NFL season and Bold season, and I guess
a little touch of NBA in there as well. And
(08:28):
you don't even funnier is that I have a just
dancing right there naked in my sleep and made me
breathe heavy. Not a good sign. But I did play
basketball last night and I did have ten five one
one and one the one gume the one steel of
the one block shot to go, oh, it was nice.
But we have a bet, this guy and I and
(08:49):
he's a lot smarter than me, and I'm just better
looking to him. We have a bet on MBAT as
the m D p at plus three thousand for ten grand.
Can you do that mass? That's three large? And when
I looked at the guy in the mirror in the
in the change, I said, I'll see a stint. So
let I'll see you. So I want to don't get
(09:13):
a bigger back. So Scott, do they put your photo
up in the casino earlier like band now because you
took too much money? How's that work there? Well, what
happens is they take they make you stand there and
they film you and so they have facial recognition. And
so when I go in and when my buddy goes
into the sports book, we're not allowed to back on
(09:35):
sports anymore. That's because because they don't like They don't
like people that win. They like people that are stupid
and that lose. They love those people. They'll fill you
up with drinks, give you a room, give me a steak. See,
I don't want all that. I already got rooms, sweets,
got sweets. My buddy sat down last night with fifty
(09:57):
large to play black jack, and in less than thirty
minutes he had sixty. And I said, get up in line.
That's line. That's done now. Even it was how much
funny I go. I didn't want to cheek to look
at me anyone I looked at her. I go, don't
look at me, don't mean look at me, don't want
to me. And She's like, uh, I was scared of
death of us, scared to death of us. They thought
(10:18):
I was some kind of criminal because you know my voice, uh,
rather grading and painful and a cidy and I'm just
you know, I'm scary. And if I raised my boys,
people think I'm yelling. And I'm just like, we gotta
go now. Now we got sixty, let's get out of here.
We went to a change and to get the money
to get the ten large on top of the fifty.
(10:40):
I'm sitting there and there was a guy. I swear
to God, there was a guy sitting there at two
thirty three in the morning, and he was watching the
nature boy. He was watching Rick Flaire did some kind
of in ring speech at the w w E event
like Wrestlania, and I was like, I looked up in
my mondy hand, going there, what's a rich Flaire like
(11:07):
happen here? And I was like, you got any weed, Scott?
Are you playing his sleep at all today? Are you're
just gonna He's gonna stay up? And I got a
little I got a little sleep. We had a game
last night. This guy's a teammate of mine. He had
eighteen three threes. Grollballers undefeated again and UH we won
by sixteen. We didn't even cover. The spread was twenty.
(11:30):
It was unfortunate. Usually we cover and blow people out.
With the students. Some guy in like six or seven
threes were playing this huge UH league in New York City.
It's all over the country. There's a lot of believe
or not. There's a lot of former D one players
and being a retired players, the plan that it's pretty
cool and it's high level basketball spit. It's the only
thing I have obviously athletically in my life. I played
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tons of basketball. I'm big. You see how big I
am When I saw you, I'm six four to twenty.
I mean business and I'm I'm Rick Mhorn. I'm dirty
and I can knock down shots from anywhere. But I
play with us, dude. And uh, not only do I
play with he's my he's my good friend. And he's
an incredible sharp, he's heavy, he's a he's a better,
(12:13):
and he's a sports better for his you know, that's
what he does for a living. And he makes let's
just say, um seven figures a year. And all I
know is, um, he's fun to hang out with. So
now now that you've been booted out of Jersey, you
just moved to the next stage. Is that the movie?
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Because you they they're legal betting in New York now, right,
so you can go to there's a lot of sports books.
So let's just say we're going this morning to breakfast.
We're gonna PLoP in I think thirty into an account
with a different sports book, and we're gonna start a
little relationship with them. Uh, we we've been uh you know.
Bottom line, there's a couple of them. There's a couple
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of them that were not allowed to bet in. Uh.
You know, you got to come to Atlantic City to
beat but you have to come to Atlantic City to
be the kind of money that we bet, and you
have to um, you know, you have to put that
kind of money in the in the account. It's collateral.
You can't just make those kind of bets unless you
have the the juice. So we start the account small,
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you know, and then we build them up and then
and then we come back down here, you know, late
at night. You get a suite. He plays black jack, uh,
and I count money. You gotta run a script on
this guy. It sounds like a future movie. You gotta
made this. I gotta tell you, it's more fun than
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hanging out with my life. So I was hot though,
I gotta tell you. I took pictures of it, of
me with the stacks of money, uh, coming out of
my ears, and I made a really funny face, and
she wrote me back, it sounds funny, I said, getting naked.
(14:04):
I'll be home for three hours exactly exactly. The new kitchen.
She's getting a new kitchen out of this. She she
can careless about me the sports show. Uh, the show
as I do, the TV, the radio, my career. Uh.
She just wants some money, which is what I appreciate about.
It's like a real New York You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(14:24):
you know, give me the money. It's all about the Benjamin.
It's all about the Benjamin Scott Challenge. You can watch
the Super Sports tonight to go ahead. I'm going out
with my friends. We're gonna sleep with other men. Uh
So I posted the photo Scott of you and I
and I had a bunch of people that listen to me.
(14:45):
It was like, I love where you know? They lost
track here for They're like, where have you been? What
have you been up to? You bounced around the radio
dial and you've been doing the show for a while,
and now you I click on these website Scott, I
see your face, you pop up all over a place
here with what you've been doing, these these streaming videos
that are all over there, like what have you been
up to? Give the people that have lost track of
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the great Scott? For what have you been doing the
last couple of years? Well, man, I do so. I
was at I guess the quick story. I was at
Howard uh Sea Channels at Serious for eight years. I
did Howard one on one at night and my job
was to bring millions of men to Howard Seed. I
was able to do that and it was an incredible experience.
(15:29):
I was not on the school. I'm good friends with him.
I dig him. He's the best, he's a great boss.
He's an incredible guy. I love him and from friends
with him. It was an incredible eight years in my life.
I loved it. Nothing better. I've ever had a better
job in my life. It was a lot of fun.
I was repulsive, disgusting, filthy, found mouth. Uh criminal, I
(15:52):
was criminal. I was felonious on the air. I did
everything that you uh shouldn't do ever on the radio
in it, and I did it exceedingly well, and I
did it constantly, and it was it was just an
absolute disaster of epic proportions and it was phenomenally kick ass.
And then I uh, I went I believe and I
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saw the writing on the wall. It was like the
channels were changing and it was going to be more
about Howard. And I looked at him and I said, listen,
I got't know, but I go back to CDs and
working on a pension I got for twenty five years
and uh, and he said. I showed him the offer,
he said take it, and I said, I love you.
I gave him how I left I went back to CDs.
I did CDs months radio tended to people say, why
(16:36):
would you ever do that? I did it for the
I did it for the money. I did it for
the pension that I had, and so I got um
thirty three years of pension. So if I die or
you know, when I'm sixty five, I get it every
month till I'm dead, and you know the deal. But
I was in a sad after I got had it, uh,
and the CBS, you know it was I was in
a Union shop. I worked in the Union for most
(16:59):
of my career, and they owed me a shot ton
of money. And all I know is that's why it
was kind of Vatican Radio. I thought it was soft.
It was definitely a p radio, like you know, uh,
we'll see changed the letters. And then I was, um,
I was you know, I was cool and everything. I
did it and it was fun everything. But I got
(17:21):
an offer to go to sports Grid, uh from lou
May owned who's the owner, and he runs the whole thing,
and he's from Wall Street. He's you know, uh, just
worth tons of money. And he's like, we're doing seven
sports gambling on this on this streaming television network. We
want to putting on TV and we want to talk
about sports betting all day. And I was like, okay,
(17:44):
So I took the offer. It was a risk, but
I'm crazy and I take chances and I'm a better
and I said, I'm gonna bet on this sports betting.
I've been doing it since you've known me, man, I
couldn't long before I knew you. I did it in
the Uh you know, I've been talking about sports betting
is basically on. I've been doing heavy national radio sports
(18:06):
betting talk, spreads, you know, everything money on its teasers
or versus everything. And then, um, you know, I finally
got a chance. I was always in troubled Scott. You
gotta stop with all the gambling talk. It's just like
they treated me like I was a pedophile, like it
was selling heroin to kids. Well yeah, I remember, yeah,
probably know. Finally I went to work for somebody that
(18:27):
gets it, like a twenty crowner, uh sports you know,
Gambling Sports Betting Network. It's incredible, it's cool. It's on
every streaming service in the world. It's on all smart TVs,
Same Sung TVs, Busy O TVs, lq S, TCLS uh
it's on um, you know every row loose playing, Uh,
(18:48):
YouTube TV, Apple TV, It's on everything. It's everyone like kids,
Uh you know a T thirty. All they do is screen. Um.
Most people that are old and can't get up off
of a sofa, they don't even know what it means.
But most people that are into it. That's the world
that we live in now, right, So I'm on there.
We got fifty two million viewers. I did a super
(19:09):
Bowl show after I saw you. I did a super
Bowl show for four hours and I had a million viewers.
That's awesome. It's awesome. Yeah, I c Scott, I got
rid of That's that's where I am. I got rid
of cable myself and I I have seen I have
a Samsung TV, and I've seen you on there and
some of the other guys, and I'm like, wow, this
is pretty cool. And uh yeah, I mean that's the
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and the council. But I want to go back to
the gambling stuff because I remember when you when I
first met you, and you were doing the Westwood One show,
and you would talk gambling, and those were the days
where it was taboo, right scot. You had offshore books
and it was only legal in Vegas and you were
and I did Neighborhood Bookie and all that stuff, and
you weren't supposed to talk about it on the radio,
(21:23):
and we used to get dreamed from programmed just like uh,
you know, I remember people complaining, you're not allowed to
do that, it's illegal, you can't you know, you can't
do it, blah blah blah blah blah. And you always
had an edge to it. You always found a workaround you.
You you were always pushing against the machine, which I
love about you because a lot of guys don't do that.
They just gonna. I did. I did it, and I
(21:45):
got into trouble a lot. I was always I was
always in uh the suits office, since I was always
getting yelled out by lawyers. Um, I was always being
threatened and I was always loop fired. I've been fired
a lot, right, So I took uh, I took those chances,
and I was kind of, uh, I was kind of
(22:06):
the face of it and at the forefront of it,
and I was the troublemaker. And I was like trying to,
you know, do something unique in radio where Milk composer
told me to do it, and when mel kinds and
told me to do it, I did it, and he
knew what I was doing made sense because he knew
the black market of it. You know, hundreds of millions
of people do it around the world and they all
(22:29):
have bookkeeas or whatever, and everybody's into it and that's
all people care about is who's gonna cover the spread.
So I did it, and I got in all kinds
of trouble. Let's just say I have a really good lawyer.
Um I had, uh. The FTEC after me. I've I've
beating them in court five times. I'm five and oh
against them, and they told you get me for everything,
(22:52):
everything you can. I can't even go down the list.
I don't even like to talk about him. So like
my phonal range to day, like that's how bad it was.
So when I went a serious I got away from
the FTEC. That was cool, but I went back to
see us everyone thought I was gonna get busted again
and that I would say something dirty or get fired
or get in trouble. I know did and that went
a sports grid started doing TV. But when COVID hit,
(23:13):
they made me do radio. Here they have a radio
network and I was on Serious one to nine, I
was on in San Diego and my ever time ninety
I was on uh TO Networks National Sports Map in
Houston and Sports Finline in San Francisco. And I just
retired from doing that. Um, after thirty eight years, I'm
not doing the late night radio show anymore. That you've
seen you do like you've done You're a warrior. I
(23:36):
know your deal. Like bro, you and I go way
back with friends. You're you're a warrior, badass, You're like
a grinder. You've done the overnight thing, the late night think.
I've done it for thirty eight years, so I always
tell people I think I've done my time. Thanks, Um,
how weird is it? Those guys? How weird is it
now that you've done it? Like I was wondering when
I when I'm done with radio, Like, what's it gonna be? Like?
(23:58):
Is it? Do you do? You miss it? Are you cool?
Because you're still doing the other stuff, so you're still
doing me. I mean I finished Friday, was my last
show radio. I'm not saying I'll never do radio again,
because my TV shows now in the afternoon or on
like twelve to three l a time, right three to
six East, they're all on radio. They they simulcast my
TVs on on on all those networks. I just told you,
(24:20):
and it's still on. So I'm still on. I'm just
not doing late night radio anymore. And it's real simple.
I did it and it ruined my life. Um, when
you work at midnight six or tended to or eight
to midnight or tend a midnight, Uh, you have to
know life whatsoever? Was e family, kids, nothing. It's just
the hardest thing in the world to do, is I believe,
(24:43):
is overnight radio or morning drive where you have to
do up at three in the morning. So I did
morning drive in New York against Howard Stern for one
year and I wanted to kill myself. And then I
did it at Miami and I was number one in
MYNI in mornings. But I also had a problem there,
which is, um, you know my party, Like I was
on Miami Advice, I mean, I literally would show up.
(25:04):
I literally I got off a cigarette boat, I was
covered with boost and love it whoa. And I was
just like, I can't do this. So I kept doing overnights.
I get thirty six or thirty eight years in a
late night radio and I just think it's it's it's
it's not for everyone. You gotta be a hard ass
and a badass to do it. It's tough. I got
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a guy to me the other day that does it
really well, Maurnzi Gabriel Morncy know that is and Lourenzy.
Renz's done it for twenty years, but it's like fifty two.
And I said, you know, I think you're the most
hardcore guy I know. I love him. Funny's tripped out
his whacked wild because me twenty years ago, right, And
(25:46):
I always tell him, I said, you'll never touch me.
I'm like, you're you're the man. Now, you're the badass.
Now you're the craziest dude that he's crazy. You're you're
really good at what you do. Ben, You're incredible. That's
why you're as good as you want what you do.
But this guy's nuts. He should be in in a
mental institution. Okay, and he should be living in a
cuckoo's nest mental institution. He's so funny and crazy and
(26:08):
insane and nuts. And I said, you'll never make it.
You got eighteen years suggect to good luck. He's sitting too,
and he'll never do another eighteen years of it. He'll
be dead. I've always said I think that I've set
the bar high thirty eight years of doing it, and um,
I don't want to do it anymore. I just don't.
Like people are like, why would you stop do? Because
(26:29):
I aptain hate it. I'm like, you know I've done
I've already, you know I've done everything, and ready, what
more can I do? I told people it's really simple.
They want me to do after the drive over, you know,
noon to three years, I might. I would do it
and bring tons of money when you make the offer
to me. And I know that radio won't do that
because radio is still achieve suits and want of the
(26:53):
losers that like think they're badasses and they just aren't.
And I am a badass and I don't play games
when it comes to this stuff. I know all the tricks,
all the moves, all the deals, all the dirty stuff.
I've seen it all so and I've had the most
agents in the business, had done buck Ball. You don't
gonna learned anything from Don buck Walls after twenty years. Really,
(27:17):
I know how to cut a deal, and no one
in radio can afford me. Yeah, well, that's the problems.
I mean. This week, the big story is Troy Aikman
getting like a hundred eighty million or something like that
to to go to Monday night football. That's the story
I mean. But to me, Scott, people tune in to
hear what you have to say. I mean, you did
this for so long, guys like you and I, But
(27:38):
yet the radio guys aren't making that kind of money
like the the NFL guys are to play by play
in the broadcast. I do well, I do well. I'm
not about the money. I'm telling you to get me
to do late night radio again. Hey, it's not gonna happen.
It be. The only way I haven't even ever considered
is doing, like I said, after for mid days or something.
(27:59):
And you have to me a lot of money. I've
done radio for so long. I started doing the Bob
Night Show when I was eighteen years old. At fifty
six going on fifty seven. I played basketball, um and
I eat everything I see if I like. I went
to dinner last night in a Chinese place. I said,
we're closing, I said, I said, I'm here. I'm gonna
eat everything that you had left. I'm gonna eat the
(28:21):
entire goddamn kitchen. I'm here to spend money and get
your food. You're gonna bring it out to me, and
I'm not leaving. And the guy brought me ten plates
of food. We had duck going and everything I said.
And then I threw money, and the guy, when I
let him, just threw a bunch of money out of
I said, I touch you. You You weren't closet, and I'm
the best guy you had here all night throwing money
at I'm leaving here and I'm flowing money at you,
(28:43):
and you're now happy. And they guy gave me a
high five. I thought he was gonna do it, and
it was gonna pull my tens down to do. All
I know is is that I want to have fun
in life. I'm fifty six and I want to finish
with a bang. I want to get laid. I want
to travel the world. I want to have fun. I
want to take money from sports books. And I want
to eat everything I kept in to see everything. I
(29:04):
want to eat everything. You're living waking up people in
this casino right now, in this suite, I've broken up
seven or eight neighbors of people getting had a bed right.
You know what I say is that my boys just
crushes through walls and goes right into the liver. Scott,
when you were tell me about that when you were
a kid, did you always did this voice change at
some point? Did you when you were a little kid,
(29:25):
a little Scott at the elementary school? Did it sound
It must have sounded different. At what point did you
realize I got something here? This is a this is
a weapon. I think when I think when I was fifteen, right,
my boys, uh turned into this and it's really simple. Sorry.
My dad had a golden throat. Right. So my father
I was an anchorman with CBS and in the nineteen
(29:46):
sixty five they struck. They had a strike and it
lasted forever, and he left and went to work with
US Seal in Pittsburgh and um he he was a
powerful suit with U S Seal for forty five years.
When he retired, he ran steel mills in Europe for
another ten years, made tons of money and he had
(30:07):
a golden throat. So he was an anchorman that had
the two bartlet Tone boys good evening. He was the
national guy at CBS at the time. He would have
been Tom Broke, all right, And I kid you not,
that's how good he was. Because when he was in
UH television, he went to UH he was in Kansas
City out of Missouri Columbia, Great Broadcasting Jollison School, and
(30:28):
he was doing Missouri football and he was doing everything.
And then he ended up in Kansas City. And then
he got bigger and bigger and bigger, and then he
eventually left the business. So he never did what I did.
Like he he wanted to do this his entire life
and and it didn't work out that way. He worked
in the steel business and he became a powerful executive,
right but my boys, my boys never made it to that.
(30:50):
My boys, UM, it became very uh you know, gravelly
and very as it is today, based on I believe,
um a heavy those of booze beer, we cigarettes and
just aggressive seeing in uh Colorado, you know, see a
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the AD Council. So when you were working with Stern,
I'll go back to that now. I obviously been a
bit a fan of Stern over the years, Scott, but
(33:42):
you knew, you know him, he's a friend of yours.
There is. He's not a sports guy though, right. He
goes to Knicks games every once in a while, but
he's not really a sports guy. What do you guys
talk about? Well, you know, I would say he's one
of the funniest kids I've never met, Right, very funny,
it's very smart. Right, So that's a pretty good combination
(34:02):
if you want to hang out with someone. Uh, that's
you know. I love smart people who I love funny people.
I love exciting people, right, and he's one of them.
And um, I just you know, I got a huge
kick out of him. And obviously I wondered how this
was coming to fruition of like, how is this guy
he really doesn't like sports at all? Because the next
games to be seen not to watch again, he doesn't
(34:24):
really follow sports at all, zero, but he is, Um,
you know, there's only in the things that I'm not
into you know, paintings and animals and you know, uh,
photography and stuff like that. He said he's into that
kind of stuff. And you know they saved dogs and
cats and all this stuff that's and and how that's
what they do. He's a money Like when I would
(34:48):
hang out with him with my wife, like I would,
we would go dancing, we'd go party and um, I
could sit with him in a in a bar at
a party or something and talk about farting for half
an hour and you know, just the conversation about ripping
the perfect farm, the dry lasting ten to fifteen second
ripper if it's dry enough, and clean it up and
(35:10):
you can and you to carry it for you know,
ten to fifteen seconds. You can do a lot of
damage here. And I would have these conversations with him
about farting, and I thought it was like the greatest
thing ever, Like who do you sit around talking about farming?
That's like no one, you know, Howard sterns. So it's
a very funny guy and he's um, he's brilliant and
(35:32):
so things like that, like I gotta kick out of him.
I would go to uh, he'd have a party, right
and and like a Christmas party or a birthday party
or something, and he would throw the biggest party you've
ever been to in your life. And I mean it
would be the greatest party you've ever been to ever
in your life. And then he'd beat us like sixteen minutes,
and then he'd leave. I'd be like, this guy's I mean,
(35:52):
this is just that he walks in everybody. He makes
it makes, you know, contact with everybody since hide, everybody
has a drink. Everybody's just so excited that he's there.
They're all just swinging from his nuts. And then he's
out the door, FID. And I was always like, that's
that's crazy. I go, that's incredible. I used to that.
But he was. He was a really normal person to me.
(36:14):
That was great to me, you know what I mean,
Like there's no one really describe it. Like I really
looked up to him. I love him. He's been great
to me, to my family. Uh. Special guy always supported me.
Uh And one one last said once, um ever, not
even close did I ever swing from his nuts. So
(36:36):
you were there was mutual respect, you weren't that he
totally respected him. And I always high flighted them to
be like where are you ups? I go, I'm gonna
che a game O the day? Are you easy? I'm
gonna have fun and I'm gonna head on women all day,
all day long. I'm gonna hit on every chick I see,
and then I'm gonna go sleep with my wife. She's
(36:56):
hot too. He liked that. He liked that I was.
I that was crazy and fun and uh that that's uh,
you know, he's not, you know, crazy, but he's definitely
fun and he's got his but believe me, he's got
his shot together. That guy's got more money coming out
of him than a federal reserve. I always thought that
was pretty cool too, Like people always question how much
(37:19):
money he made, and I was like, I just think
it's so kicking us that he has all that in cash.
I mean, I think it's just cool. So I was
always uh good fannel what he was, you know, it
was cool. Like I got to go on Letterman twice
and then I worked for Howard Stern for eight years.
Everything else can basically uh get on their knees and
not me. I'm not doing that, Scott. I'm not doing that.
(37:42):
But I know I that's how I looked at it.
You know what I mean. Like I was, like, there's
nothing else left for me to prove or do. I
got to I got to work for Howard Stern and
if you don't like that, then you're stupid. And then
I got to go on Letterman twice. I mean, David
Letterman loved my show and I loved him. He was
kind of my hero. And to go on there, Um,
I got a I got a boner. Yeah, no, that's
(38:04):
all I mean. And not only that, the thing also
about you and your name pops up, the fact that
you did NHL play by play in addition to everything else. Scott,
the Atlanta Thrashers, the long lost Atlanta Thrashers. How did
how did that? It didn't last long? But how did
that happen? Scott? Well, it didn't match long because they
didn't have the balls to have me keep doing it. Um,
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millions and fans loved it. And there was no one
that was crazier on the radio doing play by play
than name. My fights were the best, my call games,
we were the best. And no one ever said I sucked.
You never heard that. All you heard was is that
I was crazy, and I was I was out of
control and I was drinking beers and a press bound oxen.
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He swung a hot stick with a microphone on it
and almost hurt people. And he broke all the rules.
I'm not allowed to go out with the players and
drink all night in nightclubs. And he would go out
and twink with players and night clubs. And you're not
allowed to go out to dinner with the players. And
he was always got to be dinner with the players,
allowed to go to their homes. And when I saw
(39:10):
their wives walking naked in the kitchen when I was
at their home. Because everyone loved all the players loved me,
I partied with them. I broke all the rules. He said, Scott,
don't do this, Scot, don't do that. Stop on a
sport coach, Scott with a tie, stopped stowing the practice. Scott,
don't drink, Stott sitting the plane and shut up. And
I was like, you know what they said to me
at the end of the year, what do you wanna do?
(39:31):
I said, I want to go home. I said, we
want you to go home to its God gave me
for three more years and I had a four year
guarantee deal. Best shot I've ever had. I got a
paycheck every two weeks or four years. Greatest deal I
ever cut because the three years I did nothing. I
just got the best weed you could smoke in the world, right,
I just said, every time I walked down the driveway
to get that chat, I just smoked up fatty and
(39:53):
I was like that. And the Thrashers went broke and
they moved to Felipeg. What's better than Matt the story?
I come back on him anyway. They moved up Farrella
Peg and they still suck and they don't matter. They
went and I got to work for that Turner, which
is really called that Turner. Loved me. Everyone loved me,
but the people that the GM Donalodell, he's still in
(40:16):
League runs Carolina. He was scared to death of me.
Kirk Fraser, the coach he was, he loved me so
much that he couldn't even admit it. Uh. Andrew Brunett's
the coach of the Panthers. Now he won't even have
many knows me, but believe me you when I tell
you he knows me. And we had a lot of
fun together. They all know me. You're boy. Rayed fer
Rao wrought my name at him and the guy hope hut.
(40:38):
But I started shooting because they none of them know
what to think of me. And I got fired, right, Yeah,
not gonna fired fifty times like getting fired. To me,
he's different than most people. I was like, trust me,
I told you before. I know, I got a deal,
and so they take me for you know, it's even funnier.
The man that hired me ran the uh. He ran
(40:59):
there for academy, he ran the Olympics. His son was
the phrase hearty Chiller. He's not the chairman of the
board a sports thread the company I learned for now.
But believe me you, I love Harvey. I looked up
to him. He's a legend. He's a general right from
the Army and he um from the Air Force and
I and I always looked up to him. He's incredible.
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And now I'm working for him again. And I'm working
for Hi because I'm good at what I do. And
I'm also a lot older and a lot wiser and
one mature. When I was a drastic, she said, I
play a guy. I was an absolute radical gangster. Yeah,
you were living the light. And I didn't go into
that job thinking it was pussy. I can be doing
um hockey play by play. I didn't go into it
(41:43):
like that. I was like, I'm gonna make Harry carry proud. Yeah,
and you did. Hey, Scott, we gotta we gotta wrap
it up. Man, you're the man. And uh, I'll watch
you on my my TV. They're doing the gambling stuff
and during the day and any we'll have you on again.
But you're you're one of the greats and everyone I love. Yeah,
you know I love you. I'd only do this for you.
I'm now sweating in my uh, in my suite, and
(42:06):
I'm late for breakfast, and I would only do it
for you. You know. I love you. You're great what
you do. I've always been a fan and a friend
of yours. It's great seeing you and hope to see
you again soon. Thanks for having me on the interview
right when I said, pussy, you're the best. Gut Thank you, buddy,
You're the man. I love you. Mama. What does the
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