The Jason Martin Show: 07/26/2020

Jason Martin talked about the return of baseball and tells you what he thinks of the crowd noise being pumped into MLB games across the country. Jason also gives his thoughts on Lou Williams getting caught at a strip club while outside of the NBA bubble in Orlando. Plus, LeBron James decided not to place a social justice message on his jersey and Jason tells you why LeBron's reasoning could be better.

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Episode Transcript

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(01:10):
on because ladies and gentlemen sports are being played that
actually have records that carry on, and that's just a
very good thing to be able to say. Baseball has
been back for a few days now, hoops less than
a week away from getting going down in Orlando wherever

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you might be listening to us from this morning, whether
it is you waking up early or staying up late,
or I don't know, finishing up a buffet at a
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Fox Sports Radio. Welcome in. We'll get to that story,
I promise you. But I want to talk about baseball

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and I want to talk about sports as a whole
to open up this show. And there's there's a lot
of specifics to get into, but as an overarching thing.
I sat down and I watched the beginning. I watched
the first pitch, the first half inning, pretty much glued
to the set Yankees Nats, Fauci's first pitch, and man boy,

(02:14):
I'll tell you what I'm sure. Look, I haven't been
on social media in over a week. And maybe I'll
explain why down the road. But I haven't been on
it about eight days and it's been good for my psyche.
I can promise you that. But I'm sure all the
Fauci first pitch jokes have been made. I'm gonna recite

(02:38):
him for you. But this is just kind of like
you've seen a great episode of the Office and now
you're just gonna watch it again because you like it.
I mean, how many different things do you want me
to go with? I mean, yeah, he's wearing a mask
in an empty stadium. Then he goes and sits down
without a mask in the seats. But past that, the
pitch was well, it was left to poke one if

(03:00):
you want to go there. It was completely inaccurate and
there was no chance of catching it. That's just three
right there. Now, I will say, you know, Faucci is
an eight year old guy. Maybe when I'm e d
I hope I can throw a pitch. I actually threw
a first pitch out in a minor league game here
in Nashville a year year and a half ago, and

(03:21):
that video is available to find online the forums. Not great,
but it got there. That thing was picked up by
the catcher and he didn't have to grab it out
of the dirt like that. Thing hit him. Uh, Fauci's
pitch not so good. It wasn't Carl Lewis, it wasn't
Mariah Carey, it wasn't the Cincinnati mayor. You can go
find all of these on YouTube if you haven't lately

(03:42):
and you need to laugh, and I think we all do.
Go find it. Hey Faucci's eighty. But this was not
a fantastic effort, and the jokes right themselves. But I
think we all expected that the numbers, the ratings numbers
for base ball, we're going to be up. The question
was how much, at least in the short term, that

(04:08):
NAT's Yankees game average audience around four mill that's per Nielsen,
and according to Awful Announcing, that number is the highest
on any network since two thousand and eleven for a
regular season Major League baseball game. So the start of

(04:30):
this article and Awful Announcing, actually, I'm gonna use the
start of this just because I think this is an
erroneous sentence. I don't think this actually is accurate in
the way that it's stated. This is not me going
after the person for saying something stupid. It's just I
think this is this is too small minded, This is
too my opic this article and awful announcing that talks

(04:52):
about the ratings and how far they were up two
from last year's opening day and all this. It starts
out with this sentence, in case you were wondering if
people missed watching Major League baseball games, let there be
no doubt that the answer is yes. I just read
that directly from the article. Uh, that actually is false

(05:13):
in my eyes, because it doesn't did we miss watching
major League baseball games? Or were we just so desperate
and so thankful to be able to watch any American
team sport. I'm not even trying to dog baseball here.

(05:33):
I am saying that I don't think that there were
millions of people more than have watched a game in
eight years that oh, they missed watching baseball and they
had to come out and watch it on that first day. Well,
if they missed it so much, then where were they
for the last eight years? You know what I'm saying,
Like you get this. I'm not saying that this wasn't impressive.

(05:58):
I'm saying that that can lusion isn't supported by the
facts at all. Again, the sentence in case you were
wondering if people missed watching Major League baseball games. Let
there be no doubt that the answer is yes. Rewrite
the sentence in case you were wondering if people missed
watching American team sports, Let there be no doubt that
the answer is yes. Bingo boom goes the dynamite. That

(06:23):
is accurate, and it was proven because baseball is number
four these days or number three. I guess I should
say obviously not hockey above it, but it's clearly number three.
And this is why I went off to open last
week's edition of The Jason Martin Show here on Fox
Sports Radio about what a missed opportunity major League Baseball

(06:44):
just totally botched by not getting on the field weeks
earlier because the numbers that they pulled on opening night,
and right now in the studio replay of Brewers Cubs
My Braves one after losing, you know, like, we're paying
attention to this stuff, but we still don't have a
lot to divert us away. Yeah, there's a little bit

(07:06):
of exhibition NBA if you want to watch NBA TV.
Lakers Magic I think was on the last time I
was over there, But until Thursday, baseball is the one
where the records count, and baseball had a chance for
three or four weeks or maybe even longer, to have
been out here with all of our attention, because as

(07:26):
long as they're the only game in town, we're going
to watch, because, as you well know, being someone that
has chosen to unless you're you know, at the mercy
if someone else controlling the radio, you have chosen to
listen to a sports talk radio station. If you're on
the East Coast, it's three AM, and I appreciate that

(07:48):
choice mightily, but it's obvious that you care. These numbers
just make me wonder what it's gonna look like when
the m b A starts up. And again, I know
it sounds like I'm sliding baseball, but I'm not. I
was happy to see baseball. I watched baseball. I've got

(08:09):
baseball on right now. Yeah, it's weird. No fans is weird.
The piped in crowd thing is weird. People calling games
from a studio instead of in the stands. In a
lot of these cases are just not in the stadium,
like the ESPN crews are in Bristol doing these games
and things of that nature. Like that's weird. Anytime you

(08:30):
don't have the broadcast and crew on site. For some reason,
there's just to disconnect. It feels like it's a little
bit contrived, maybe a little bit too polished. It's just
kind of an artificial but that's look, this is this
is a year unlike any other. Hopefully we will never
ever see anything like this again. But right now we

(08:53):
can't nitpick the fact that there aren't fans, even though
we wish there were, and we just have to enjoy
the fact that baseball is being played. It's time to
be more and more optimistic because we're about to get
a lot of sports back in a very short period
of time. And I was looking today there was an
ad on our television and it basically was listing all

(09:15):
of what NBC has for the rest of the year.
And it just lists all of these dates, NASCAR, um
PGA Tour Championship, Kentucky Derby, NFL season starting, and it
gives dates for all this stuff and it says sports
are back. And that's the ad. And it's not an
ad for NBC, it's an ad for the cable company

(09:36):
because right now they're saying, hey, we know you've been
rolling Tiger King and Jeffrey Epstein, Filthy Rich and all
of these other things on these streaming services. But we
just want to let you know that thing you're addicted to,
that thing you're obsessed with. You may not know your
wife's anniversary, but you know a whole lot of sports statistics.

(09:57):
You might not know the numbers of when you were married,
but you definitely know if you're a Chiefs fan, what
Patrick mahomes is accuracy where it was last year, his
completion percentage, This matters. Four million people watched baseball most
since two thousand eleven for any regular season game. I

(10:20):
think you're missing the boat. If your argument is all
this just shows how much people missed the Major League
Baseball No, this shows Holy cal wait until some of
these other sports come back. It's awesome for baseball. More
eyes on their stars, more eyes on their game, hopefully

(10:41):
able to create a little bit of a niche, especially
to a younger audience that just simply is not watching
baseball at all. That's the biggest problem for baseball is
that it's not that look being an old man sport
per se. It's okay as long as the young generation
is still why watching the problem with being an old

(11:01):
man's sport for baseball is when those old men pass away.
If the younger generation isn't watching baseball, then what does
baseball become It it passes away like you have to
pass the past time to the next generation for it

(11:23):
to work. Which is why, yet again, I will repeat
one more time, baseball really needed to be on the
air four or five weeks ago. Kids needed to be
watching this stuff. Pull them away from videos of people
playing Minecraft for hours and hours on end, pull them
away from Baby Shark. I guess if they're that age,
to keep them watching Baby Shark because they're not gonna

(11:44):
be able to understand what's going on in the nl
central race. But right now baseball has an opportunity to
at least endear itself to its future. And I don't
know that they've taken full advantage of it, but but
at least it's back now. But four million for that,

(12:06):
what do you think the numbers are going to be
for the NBA? And good lord, what are they gonna
be for college football if it's played, And what are
they gonna be for the NFL when it is played?
And you heard the difference there, right, I said college
football if NFL win. There's a reason for that. Even

(12:27):
though I do think college football is gonna be played.
We're gonna talk about the difference between college football and
NFL in terms of their seasons and why things are
happening the way that they're happening. I'm gonna give you
a theory a little bit later on in the program,
so stick around for that. But we should have well,
we look, we saw this coming. We knew this was
coming when people are watching virtual NASCAR races, and when

(12:53):
they're watching all of these weird exhibition things that even
Korean baseball is on on a regular basis, and all
these things. We know that when one of the Big
four comes back, we're gonna watch. If it had been hockey,
I think those numbers would have surprised us as well.
And hockey will be rolling here pretty soon as well.
And they're going straight into the playoffs and NHL playoffs, folks,

(13:13):
if you haven't ever watched the Stanley Cup playoffs are outstanding.
So this should be dramatic stuff and it should be
right into the thick of it. This is perfect for them.
Baseball is about to We're about to see just how
many people missed watching Major League baseball because they're about
to get a lot of competition. When you don't have competition,

(13:36):
you should do really solid numbers. And maybe these numbers
are gonna hold up across the board. I hope they do. Nobody,
nobody at the Jason Martin Show, certainly not me, is
rooting for the death of baseball. I'm just saying that
the numbers this week don't indicate people missed baseball. They
indicate how badly people want big time American team sports.

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And there's a difference there. Eight seven seven ninety nine
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of days and what's to come. All that still to
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(15:04):
the breakat we started talking about Lou Williams, just kind
of down the line and stuff. We're gonna talk about
Lou Williams. It's it's just something else, is what it is.
No question about that NBA bubble is gonna be wild, folks,
Baseball's back. Let's bring in the crew. I asked, Chris,
or Chris, you asked how I was doing when you
said hello to me when we first locked in here

(15:25):
about twenty minutes ago or so, and I said, I'm
doing all right. How are you? And you said Tigers
up because Detroit won, And I said, yeah, Atlanta up
because the Braves had won as well, and both of
us had not had a great first game, but uh,
second game kind of coming back. So and you're not
even the biggest baseball guy out there. I know Eric
is a huge baseball fan, but we were excited about

(15:48):
this watching games that didn't count last week, and now
we've got games that do count and it's a sixty
game sprint, and I gotta say, I am I'm locked in,
and I'm interested, and I'm watching a lot more of
this already then I thought I would. Yeah, so my
car is on the table. For people who don't know,
I am a Detroit I covered Detroit sports. I'm a
Detroit sports fan. The secret to Detroit sports is that

(16:10):
we wait for a team to get good and we
kind of gravitate over there. So I was a lot
more locked in with the Tigers in like when they
had all those great pictures like Verlander and Scherzer and
David Price. Not as much right now as they work
to rebuild. And one of my friends gave me their
uh the hashtag for the for the tanking rock bottom

(16:30):
for Rocker. But I don't like that kind of trust
the process stuff. I think it's just boring and I've
got I've got better things to do than waste my time.
But I did watch, you know, I watched the Tiger.
I've watched both Tigers games so far, and it's the
whole Their whole division is gonna be interesting. This year,
especially with the Twins and the White Sox, and I
I gotta say, like, maybe it's just because I feel

(16:51):
like they might be the faces of baseball right now,
and maybe they don't have the stink of the dynasty
of years past. But I'm I'm enjoying watching the Yankees.
I really am. Stanton's got two home runs in two games,
Like he's just gonna be hitting taters this entire year.
So there's there's a lot for me to be dialed
in right now. I think the cardboard cutouts are a
little cheesy. I didn't like the fake crowd noise on

(17:15):
the Fox broadcast today, but you know, I I also
I also realized that I think someone on MLB network
brought this up. You would appreciate this as a guy
from you know, you know, you know South sports pretty well.
Like he was talking about how it would be nice
for the natural sound because it would be more like
a college baseball game where you've got where you've got.
You don't have that big of a crowd, but you've

(17:36):
got you know, the the dugouts are kind of leering
at each other and and talk and smack to the
batter or whatever. It would be cool to kind of
have that. I get it, though. People need what they're
familiar with. It's, you know, because people are stupid. Yeah,
that's because people are stupid. Like there was it was
the same thing as it was like How I Met
Your Mother and Big Bang Theory and some of that stuff. Yeah,

(17:57):
a ton of people were watching those shows. But that
was around the time that the laugh track. You realize.
Chuck Closeman wrote an excellent piece on this years ago,
so if you can find it online. I've read it,
I think, yeah, yeah, and it talks about the laugh
track and what it does to you and what it
does to your psyche and all these things that. Look
I still love some classic stuff. One of my favorite
pieces of comfort food is Everybody Loves Raymond. And now

(18:19):
that Peacock is rolling, I'm going back through some of
those episodes just to try and you know, clear your
head and get away from news and get away from
a lot of those things. So I understand the laugh track,
and I like being able to laugh along with people
as well. But there is something you can't see those people,
Like here, I see a bunch of empty seats, and
it's just like this is a little bit too far

(18:41):
from me. My cognitive dissonance just doesn't allow this. Yeah,
I just want to throw some because you mentioned comfort food.
It's like today, I it was the other day I
learned that apparently, you know popeye s is the fried
chicken sandwich. We all kind of lost their minds. Apparently
there's seven different flavors of popeye is chicken sandwich in Korea,
in South Korea, and we only have to you over here.
I thought this country was the king of flavors. I

(19:03):
thought it was like, I mean, there was a time
when there was up folks. I am old enough to
remember a time when it was Derrito's and you knew
what that meant. There was no such I remember when
Cool Ranch debut. I remember when that blue bag hit
uh when I think it was in my childhood. I
can't remember exactly the year. Yeah, that's that's weird. But

(19:24):
that's what I mean. Like people, as you say, people
want their comforts. They want to hear the crowd noise
in the background. They want to see there's people in
the stands. But I don't know. I I noticed there
was like we I think it was talking with Eric
about Eric. There was like Nick Nicholas Cage from National
Treasure Indian Washington, d C. Or something. So it's it's
getting weird and that's drawing me out. But the baseball

(19:46):
is good. The baseball is good, and I'm dialed in
for it, and I'll probably be dialed in for a while.
We'll see. I mean, I don't expect much out of
the Tigers, but I mean I can at least watch
a Detroit team. I can't say that about the NBA
bubble right now. Yeah, I will say that I think
that you could do a lot of You can do
a lot of experimentation, especially with the right guys, ones

(20:08):
that are on board with with more live miking of
players and talking to them the way that they've done
during the All Star Game. But here you could maybe
do it with guys that are on the bench, like
maybe not ones that are actually on the field, but
you could do it that way. I'd rather hear that
than some of the the artificial noise that's just not
for me. It may be working for a lot of
you out there, and if it is great, I just

(20:28):
I mean, I can watch a baseball game on mute
and enjoy it just as much like it's just you know,
there's nobody there right Eric, Like it's not like I
can't I just can't get there because my eyes and
ears don't match things where it's like when you have
a kid and if you tell them like, hey, don't
look at this scene in a TV. But like are
you watching a movie and you know, a sex scene happens,

(20:50):
and the kids peeking through the eyes or the holes
and their fingers. It's like, we know it's there, and
it's almost trowing more attention by you trying to cover
it up in a way. You know. It's like and
my thing is, you know, I've I'm flipping through games
all you know, all weekend or whatever, and the crowd
noises at so many different levels from game to game.
Like one game it's like really piping in nine innings

(21:11):
of just constant noise and it's not ebbing and flowing
with the you know, the flow of the game. You know,
it's not reactionary. And then another one it's like you
can't even really hear it, so it's like the constant
isn't there, and it's it's really it's yeah, it's like
you paint a third gold, it's still you know, whatever
it's it's it's so weird in a way. It's it's
it's bringing more attention with these The cardboard cutouts is

(21:33):
a cool, little quirky thing, you know, raising money for
charity stuff like that, but then you know not to
you know, not to bite the hand the feeds, but
fs one with the virtual stuff today even more weird.
It's it's like, guys, we know there's no fans there
and you're it's it's bringing more attention by you guys
trying to do these weird things to cover it up,
like just just just own it and there's no covering it.
There's no covering it up. Well you know we can't

(21:55):
go to these games. It's it's a big yeah. It's
like it's and that's the biggest thing is like, guys,
we know it, and you're bringing more attention with these
articles because now people are focusing on how you're trying
to cover it up and how you're failing at it
in a lot of ways. He's making it weird. He's
been showed like the back of the cardboard cutouts just
to kind of drive home the point. And it's like,
why did we know we know that there's dogs there's

(22:16):
like a dog that got hit. Somebody's dog was hit.
That was one of the cardboard cutoffs. Like, oh, that's
not a real dog. I'm stunned. One of the funniest
things I saw, one of the most ironic things I
guess over the weekend was like, you know, they're showing
all these cardboard cutouts are the virtual virtual crowd in Chicago,
the brewers that were in you know, Chicago for the
opening series. It's like, oh, you know, no fans, no fans,

(22:37):
And they cut to a live shot of wriggley Ville,
just feet outside of Wrigley and there's tons of people
at like local bars just eating, you know, chopping it up.
And I'm like, so we have these virtual fans in here,
and like literally the Chicago the city is sitting outside
just like yeah, like there's the people are literally feet
outside of the stadium, but they can't be let in

(22:59):
and they're just at the bar inside. I'll just it's
it's such a surprise. We should really, honestly, like, in
the size of these stadiums, we should have some people
in these seats. Like it's not like you can't socially
distance like it would be even if you have pasty,
you could have legitimate sound, you can have something that
actually makes sense. But let me tell you what's more

(23:19):
faith than the crowd noise. I received this email. You know,
I had forgotten about it until just a second ago,
and we're sitting here talking about, you know, all the
fakery and the fugasiness that's going on surrounding good baseball
and this tops at all. This is not political in
any way or anything. This is just I have functioning eyes.

(23:41):
I get this email. Like I get a lot of
emails from various companies and corporations and sports agents, and
because I do pop culture stuff, I get a lot
of TV and film and all this. So I get
this from I guess the company behind TOPS that makes
baseball cards, and so they made this Anthony Fauci baseball
card based on his historic first pitch, which we all saw.

(24:04):
And yes it was historic because it was the first
pitch in this you know, unique season. But this is
how this email reads. Let me know when you feel
like this has kind of jumped the shark from being
legitimate to worse than anything we just discussed for the
last three or four minutes. The card will be available

(24:25):
this afternoon for twenty four hours only for exclusively at
Tops as part of the Tops Now collection capturing legendary
moments throughout the MLB season. Okay, cool idea. The card
captures doctor Dr Fauci donning a National's jersey hat and
face mask, firing a strong effort to the plate, signaling

(24:47):
the official start of the MLB regular season as the
Gnats took on the Yankees on July. You guys saw
that pitch, right, it was an effort. I don't know
about strong he did. He did better than right. Yeah,

(25:09):
but that's still the worst first pitch of all time.
Fifty cent of the Mets game. Like, nothing's going to
top that. I'm sorry, Are you sure about that one? Yes?
I I will go to my dinner mayor maybe Carly
ray Jepson in No fifties was really Mariah Carey fifties
was really bad. Well, I know he's on the list.
I'm just is it that Clutton dry? Guys, Like, is

(25:31):
it definitely fifty cent? I feel like there's an argument
here for several different Probably is I will just always
stub for fifty cents throw because it was just that bad,
Just like all of his albums after the first one,
and just like the Mets, Yeah, exactly, Brads firing a
strong effort to the plate. This was not a strong

(25:54):
effort of an email because as soon as I read that,
I just died laughing and archived this so I could
save it forever. And then it's got a photo of
actually the pitch. And look, let's just say it doesn't
look like he's firing a strong effort. Even in the pitch.
It looks like he's doing the the Henry Rowing Gardner. Um,
what was the stupid pitch called the flop pitch? The float?

(26:15):
The float pitch from Rookie of the Year, which is
a movie that you all three of you may not
have been alive when it was actually released, but you should.
You can go find that. Yeah, you watch it. I
mean you got the squeaky arm. Yeah, I was like,
what did you have, Tommy John or how did he get? Yeah?
So he you know, he ended up screwing up and
he ended up doing what his mom used to do.

(26:36):
And so yeah, that's basically what this looks like. It's
like Faucci is trying to grab the ball that's floating
above him in the sky and he's looking up in
the air and this is the first pitch, and it's
like even the photo that you chose doesn't indicate anything
vaguely resembling a strong effort. Let's bring in Brian Finn,

(27:00):
who always brings in strong Did you see that pitch?
Do you think that defining that or sending an email
saying firing a strong effort to the plate, It's just
pushing it a little bit too far, Jason. It looked
like Faucci was trying to throw a grenade. That's how
I looked at it. And then did you see the
comment from Trevor Bauer the Reds picture on Twitter? He

(27:21):
took a picture or at least he screenshot at it,
of Faucci after the first pitch that he threw, watching
the game in the stands, and his mask is not
over his face. Yeah, because the cameras not on anymore,
so the virtue signaling doesn't work anymore. So. Bauer tweeted
with the picture with the caption quote, great news. Fans

(27:41):
can be in the stands for MLB baseball this year
and you are allowed to make a personal decision to
wear slash not wear a mask, and it shows Faucci
in between two other people taking in the game. So
I just I can't deal with it. Man, I can't
deal with that. I can't deal with the difference there.
It's like, if you want to be the guy that

(28:04):
is preaching masks, that's absolutely fine, but you'd better dag
on where that thing all the time when you're in public.
It's just the same thing, like why would you take
that off? Because somebody's going to know and it just
reflects so badly. It's just like, well, you've just destroyed
your own argument. In the eyes of anybody that had
even the mildest doubts, They're like, well, Dr Fauci is

(28:26):
not even wearing a mask, so why would I. Exactly,
you're trying to set a precedent, and you guys were
bringing up what baseball has done and and trying to
make it sound like there are fans in the stands
with the fake noise and the different things that they're
adding to the game. I like the noise because you
know me, Jason, I like movies on in the background,

(28:49):
like the Lego movie or Saving Private ryme everything is awesome,
or a bunch of people have died. Yes, So those
are my two just you know, it's sort of like
finger food. You're doing a couple of things around the
house and you've got one of those movies up or
the baseball there's a there's a it's so soothing to
hear the background noise. It's like white noise trying to

(29:10):
sleep on. Sir. Yeah, well so, I just I feel
like maybe we need to have fake crowd noise under
these updates, like when we come to you. We need that,
I mean, because it would be just as realistic as
what we're hearing in Yes, speaking of updates, Jomal Adams
hitting that ejection button, Adams who made disparaging remarks the
head coach for the Jets, and Adam Gates joining forces

(29:32):
with the Seahawks Seattle in return giving New York to
first round draft picks and other minor bits in the trade. You're, oh,
we got hapen every single time. Perfect, Chris Pete bringing
it so multiple outlets have also conveyed and I know, Jason,

(29:54):
this is going to be your favorite story of the show.
The NBA trying to get a clear pick sure on
what Clipper Williams was doing during an excused absence from
the Orlando bubble. So Williams said he went to a
strip club in Atlanta on Thursday for dinner, strictly for
the food he had attended the family funeral earlier that day.

(30:18):
And what it's gonna come down to is Williams will
have to quarantine as little as four days to as
many as ten days before rejoining his squad. Hey, speaking
of baseball, how about those Padres guys, I'm telling you
they are gonna win it all. And I usually am

(30:40):
a clown, but I think that statement does not befit
me being a clown. I actually believe this our first
place in the n L West after body slamming their
Diamondbacks five one, the Giants takedown the Dodgers five four
after scoring in each of the first four innings, and
the Nationals power drill the Yankees nine to. Steven Strassburg

(31:01):
missed his start with a nervous you tied to his
throwing hand. And you're happy, Jason, because your braves won
an extra innings and so did the Royals. That last
one doesn't really affect my day, but I'm glad to
hear about the Braves, all right. So I watched fifty
Cents first pitch. Definitely bad. Cincinnati Mayor. I'm telling you,

(31:23):
you guys need to go watch somebo these during the
break and we can discuss this a little bit more.
But the Cincinnati Mayor is right there and maybe worse.
Even though fifty maybe you would think he's a little
bit more athletic and at his age, I'm sure he's
a lot younger than the Cincinnati mayor. Look up Mariah Carey,
look up Carl Lewis. I remember the Mariah Carey one. Yeah,
we need to we need to have an argument. There's

(31:44):
there's an argument here. But fifty is definitely on the list.
Fifty is it's not good. And he looked like he
thought he was about to just throw a frozen rope
just like a perfect pitch, And uh yeah, that's what
makes it for me. On fifty is like it's the confidence,
Like this is a guy who who does a bunch
of who's done several album covers with his shirt off
all the time. He's he's he's absolutely like athletically gifted,

(32:07):
and he he looks like he's he's got muscular two
at two and it's just it's it's a pitch. I
just was not expecting at all with with all all
that put together, and that's what you put like there
there's expectation and then there's reality, and that for me
is the largest golf I can I can forgive, like
Mariah Carey or Carly ray Jepson or some old mayor
like not throwing as well, although I'm about to watch

(32:29):
the Cincinnati mayor's pitch. But I'm just saying, like there's
there's expectations when it's a guy like like I just saw.
So I just saw Dirt Navisky airmail somebody by ft
above their head as well, So uh, keep those rolling
in at j mar Radio. Let me know what the
first pitches are on your list of the worst, and

(32:50):
does Fouci make it. The answer is yes. Welcome back
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I have discovered the YouTube MLB worst first pitch as ever.
And I'm just watching all of these and I had

(33:12):
forgotten about Carly Rae Jepson. It's not good. She barely
gets it off the mound. Yeah, it's to think about it.
Like when I had to do this at the minor
league game, like a year and a half ago. I
practiced for a couple of weeks before just I didn't
actually have a catcher. I just went out there. I
just want to make sure that I could get it
there and it was in the vicinity of where it

(33:34):
needed to be, where the catcher could make a play
on it, not out of the dirt. And you know,
I did it for maybe two three days, maybe it's
just two days. I went out there and threw just
to be familiar with it. And it's nerve wracking. Like
before I did it, I was not really thrilled about
doing it. And this is in a minor league ballpark
that's not you know, completely full or anything. There's maybe

(33:55):
five people there, maybe not even that many. Like this
would be a nerve wracking thing. But I would suggest
that when you're asked to throw a first pitch, and
if your Mariah Carey doesn't matter, like that's you're making
a valid point there about what's expecting what's not expected.
But if you're somebody that like has self respect as
an athlete or somebody like that confident all that. Then

(34:19):
if you aren't really sure about it, maybe don't do it.
It is harder than it looks. You can't just show
up that day and do it. Had I done that,
that video would have been far worse than the one
that's actually out there where look, you guys can find it.
You can look it up at the time. I think
my Twitter account was at j mart Zone. You can
look up the first pitch there because several people tweeted

(34:40):
it out at the time. And maybe maybe if we
find it we can we can grade it. But I'd
give it a see maybe maybe even a B minus,
especially after watching this. But I can tell you that Fauci,
I'm gonna give him the grade that matches the first
letter of his last Name'll be right back. This is
a Jason Martin show on Fox Sports Radio, our number

(35:02):
one putting finishing touches on it, about to put it
into books. Welcome back Fox Sports Radio Studio. It is
brought to you by Geico. I'm Jason Martin. This is well,
it's a Jason Martin show. And even though we're well
passed a year into this run doing this show, it's
still weird. Every time I hear just using my own
name and saying show after it is such a just

(35:23):
surreal thing. It's crazy. It's always gonna be crazy. I
could do this for twenty years, will be blessed enough
to do it for one more week, and it's just
gonna be nuts then, or it's gonna be nuts two
decades from now. I'm gonna enjoy the ride. I hope
you will be along with us for it as well.
So we were looking at bad first pitches during the

(35:46):
last break and again, look, we're having a little bit
of fun without you here, Like, yeah, he's not my
favorite guy. I think I've made that pretty clear. But
he's an eighty year old man. What I was saying
in the last break was just or before the last break,
was if you can't do this, why say yes? That's
one thing that doesn't make sense. It's like, if you

(36:08):
can't do it, then you shouldn't do it because it's
only going to And look, if you're lighthearted and don't care,
then that's one thing. And maybe Fouci doesn't. Fouci's a
baseball fan, just and a huge one, A big time
Nats fan, I believe, and this doesn't change that fact. Like,
there are a whole lot of people out there right
now listening that are diehard NFL fans that wouldn't want

(36:31):
anyone on the face of the planet to see them
attempt to play football in any way so order to
go out there and kick a field goal or something
like that. Like, there's some people that would do it
for fun, there's some people that would do it that
aren't big fans that would be better at it, and
then there's some that are huge fans that just can't
do it, so that's they're just fans of it. Like
one of the reasons why and I always make this

(36:52):
argument about how sports is basically modern day superheroes. It's
actual superheroes. Like we're never gonna have a real superhero
with superpowers in this universe, you know. That's why we
go read the comics and things like that because they're
they're far off worlds, and then when you're able to
take those worlds and tie them into reality or use
them to tell stories or morals or all this that

(37:13):
brings us here. But we love the idea of superheroes.
We love the idea of something we can't do. So
we watch sports. Yeah, we can go out there and try,
but we can't do what these guys do. They are
just incredible at their sports. I mean, you're seeing Mookie
Betts and the money he's being paid. You're seeing Patrick

(37:35):
Mahomes and the money he's being paid. You're seeing all
of this hoop lah around all of these athletes because
they do things that we simply cannot do. And I
would say that that's probably I'm gonna go ahead and
defend Fauci and say Bouci's probably a diehard baseball fan,
especially at his age, it makes total sense that he's
a gigantic baseball fan, and just because he's and he

(37:58):
might be a bigger fan because of the fact that
he can't duplicate even the most basic, at least at
this point in his life, the most basic tenants of
the sport. Maybe he always maybe he never could. I
don't know. I've heard varying stories about it. But you know,
it's not a prerequisite that you're good at something that

(38:19):
explains why you're a fan of it. Sometimes you're a
fan of it because it's just otherworldly to you, which
I think again, explains why we watch sports so much. Yeah,
we love the competitiveness and we love the achievement of it,
but we also love the superhuman nature of it because
we recognize that what we're seeing is real. When Lebron
James does what he does, it is real. When Vince

(38:40):
Carter had the Olympic dunk, it was real. Watching what
Patrick Mahomes does right before he goes out of bounds,
the wizardry that he pulls off, the sorcery straight out
of Hogwarts that he pulls off, throwing the football down
the field, that kind of thing that I think is
one of the reasons we're being drawn so much back
to sports. The only thing that I sat off the

(39:00):
top of the show to reiterate before we get to
the end of this hour is that these baseball numbers
indicate how much we love sports in this country, especially
our major sports. It does not mean, I don't think
that we missed a baseball but it does mean and
if I'm Rob Manford, I'm probably kicking myself. No, not probably,
I'm definitely kicking myself that we didn't take a bigger

(39:24):
advantage of this, because when there are other games in town,
we're gonna see what happens to the audience then. But
what they were able to pull off this week very
very good, and hopefully this momentum can build. Hopefully people
enjoyed this. I do think this indicates, at least to me,
it's not going to happen, But it indicates just how

(39:47):
ridiculous the number of games played in Major League Baseball
actually is. It just I cannot care because of how
many games are played, each individual game doesn't have that
much meaning. This season completely different, and it feels like
a sprint baseball, which often feels like a slog even
during some games, especially if a Yankees Red Sox on

(40:09):
national television, you get the exact same thing, but it's
in reverse. Now this thing is just shot out of
a cannon, and we're all excited about it. When we
come back. The next sport to come back and the
Lou Williams story stick around, we'll talk about it. Second
hour of the program, Jayson Martin Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. I'm in Nashville, Tennessee. My crew was in

(40:29):
Los Angeles, California. You're well, you're wherever you are in
time and space, hopefully safe and healthy. We're almost August
will eventually come to an end. Yes, this election will
eventually end, and then I think a lot of things
are probably gonna change pretty quickly after that. We're in

(40:53):
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Lou Williams story is just fascinating to me for a

(41:16):
number of different reasons. Lou Williams of the Clippers, whose
shortlist for six Man of the Year again, He's already
won it twice in his career. I think he's what
eighteen and five I think are his numbers before the shutdown.
Back in March, Lou Williams went to Atlanta for a
funeral someone important to him, I think a family member,

(41:40):
and certainly he had to leave the bubble to do that,
and that is about his viable and excuses you can
possibly have. And while he was there, he went after
the service, he went to dinner. This sounds normal. What

(42:01):
do you go to Chili's, Applebee's, you go to Bruce
Chris or you know something high end. I don't know
all of the restaurants in Atlanta. I lived in kennisof
for a couple of years. But no, he can't go
to those places where he chose for this dinner. What's

(42:25):
a place called Magic City, and Magic City is Look,
their cuisine might be exquisite, but it is a let's
just call it a gentleman's establishment. And the jokes here
are plentiful. Lou Williams, there's actually a history. And the

(42:49):
Athletic picked up on and I was reading an article
during the break from sam Amic and Shams and that
crew about how, look, there's history of Lou Williams talking
about this is his favorite restaurant. We're in the middle
of pandemic hysteria, NBA about to get started in the bubble.

(43:14):
He leaves the bubble for a good reason and he
goes to dinner and his choice is his favorite restaurant,
which again, look, he's free to make choices. But the
idea of going to a strip club for dinner is. Look.
I have friends and went to the strip club in Greenville,

(43:35):
South Carolina, and they always raved about how great the
buffet was. They're like, hey, come with us, we want
to get there around four thirty, because that's when they
put out the shrimp. You know, I never I don't
think I ever. I went to Strip Club a few times,
a few times years and years ago. I don't think

(43:59):
I ever ate there because it just didn't seem like
that kind of place to me. Okay, the cuisine might
be exquisite, just like the articles might be wonderful in Playboy,
but you're never gonna be able to sell that to
a large swath of people. You always heard that growing up,
that all playboys just got these unbelievable writers and that. Look,

(44:23):
I'm not saying that isn't true. I'm saying that if
you asked what those people's names were, very few people
would be able to tell you. But they would be
able to tell you who the centerfolds were in all
these different months, in all these different years. Because as
you're perusing these wonderful pieces of journalism, oh there's another
woman without her clothes. I guess I'll look, it's just

(44:47):
the optics here more than anything else. Like Lou Williams,
he could have been doing exactly the right thing here
in terms of this is just a place I want
to go to dinner. He said there were no entertainers there.
He wasn't there for very long. He's in a But
the timing of this, the careful nature of the bubble,
the way everything is scrutinized in the way that you

(45:08):
could harm a team, It's just it's the judgment here
that's just kind of mind boggling to me. And look,
this was a difficult time for him, so maybe he
just felt like he needed to go somewhere that he
just really loved. Like maybe we'll hear him kind of
talk about this more. But the bigger issue to me here,
and we were actually the crew and I were talking
about this half hour ago or so. They were in

(45:31):
one of the commercial breaks. If you have some level
of fame, notoriety, if there is something to risk, then
why in the world are you allowing photos to be taken?

(45:51):
Are you putting yourself in a situation where someone could
take a photo of you? We were talking about Fauci
in the first hour. Fauci throws out the first to
wearing a mask of sits in the seats, takes a
mask off. He's not socially distanced away from other people
that he's sitting with in those seats, so he so
what was he wearing the mask for otherwise other than
virtue signal When the camera's on, it's the same. It's

(46:18):
the You just have to be cognizant of your surroundings.
Derek Jeter takes people's phones when they come to his house,
or at least those are stories of the past. Kid
Rock I always heard from numerous people that he would
throw all these wild parties and as you came to
his establishment, there would be a basket and you would

(46:40):
put all of your devices into it. Then you would
go in and it was like, whatever happens in this
house stays in this house. There's gonna be drugs and
a lot of things that are illegal or inappropriate or whatever,
and we're going to have some degree of privacy here.
You can feel safe here because no one is going

(47:00):
to be able to document this or report it. If
you're going to a strip club in the middle of
a pandemic after leaving the NBA bubble, even if you're
just going there for dinner, I probably don't want my
photo taken. And if I'm lou Williams, I feel like
I can probably control that, especially if I'm in a
very or close to empty place, one where there's no
entertainers there and all this kind of stuff. Before I

(47:23):
walk in the door, I can probably have somebody that's
with me go in and say, okay, let's make sure
that this is safe and that no one knows lewis
here or whatever like that maybe looted, and think it
through that well, but it's not really the sharpest move
at this point in time. I'm going to stop short
of saying how dare he do this to his team?

(47:44):
Because he's gonna be back in time, and where they
are in the standings, it's not like they're fighting for
their playoff lives. He's gonna be back before it matters.
If he's quarantined for two weeks whatever, you know, he'll
be back and the Clippers are going to be okay.
This isn't going into finals losing him. I mean, if
you were losing his numbers for a substantial amount of
time and they needed those wins, that would be different.

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But here in this case, I don't necessarily agree. It's
just here's what. Here's what this article from the Athletics said. Basically,
sources say Williams and a group of people including rapper
Harlow visited the club for dinner on Thursday evening after
attending the funeral, viewing that's Jack Harlow. They didn't stay long,
according to those sources, and we're allegedly there for the

(48:28):
food above all else. Williams on Twitter last night said,
ask any of my teammates, what's my favorite restaurant in Atlanta?
Ain't nobody partying? Chill out? L O l hashtag mask
on hashtag in and out. Taylor Rooks a Bleacher report said, quote, well,

(48:52):
according to this article in The Athletic, this adult establishment
has good eats. Is how it's written. Lou Williams did
an interview with an NBA reporter in April and talked
about again, reading from the article quote the quality of
the cuisine. Lou william said, Magic City is my favorite
restaurant in the world. That must be some good eating.

(49:20):
I I just think maybe at this point in time,
with as careful as everyone is trying to be, that
dinner at Magic City, maybe hold off on that until
you know. He went to the funeral on Friday, he

(49:42):
was back in Orlando on Saturday. I'm glad, of course
that he was able to go and be a part
of something that was very important to him there. I
don't know if I'm Docr Rivers how I feel about this.
Here's what he said. Dr River said, he's back here.
I can tell you that much. Obviously, those pictures got out,

(50:05):
and it's something we obviously didn't enjoy seeing or like
unquote yeah, I'll bet you didn't because it's not even
this is a distraction necessarily. This is just one of
those things where we were all wondering how this bubble
experiment's gonna go. And everybody leaves the bubble, then you
have to see how that's gonna work out. Zion had

(50:25):
to leave, He's gonna come back. He's quarantined for four days.
Maybe Lou Williams is out ten to fourteen days. I
don't think there's a hard and fast rule here. Actually,
you know what, I think there is a hard and
fast rule. It is if you're Lou Williams, probably put
you out for ten to fourteen days. If you're Zion Williamson,
you better be on TV. It's as simple as that, folks,

(50:48):
as simple as that. We were joking. Actually, Chris, I
can bring you in here. We were joking about Lebron,
James Lebron James would have to like be down with
new own you and unable to move before they would
find a way to quarantine him. Like he's going to
be on television like he could. He could be rolling

(51:09):
around with COVID the entire time test positive every day.
We will never know about those tests, so it will
not happen. No, not to go too conspiracy minded, but
I I do. I do find it funny that, you know,
when we're talking about a bit player in some of
these other cases, the fourteen days, whereas for Zion it
looks like they're he's coming back pretty quick. Yeah, it's

(51:32):
it's almost like Williams. It's important to the bottom line
of the NBA and to the television ratings. And I
guess the big question now is how important is Lou Williams.
How how bad the Clippers want to back? Well, like
I said, if because of where they are, they're gonna
be into this postseason, they're not barely in or anything
like that. They're right up at the top. They can

(51:52):
probably sustain themselves without him for a little while. Yes,
his eighteen and five is gonna be missed, but it's
gonna be back when it matters. So this is not
gonna have a gigantic effect. It's a funny story. Not.
I mean, it's not funny that he was in Atlanta
for the reason he was in But it's just like
I went to a funeral and then gotta go to
my favorite restaurant a k a. The Gentleman's Club that
I like to frequent for their cuisine. I I feel

(52:17):
like we need to send several reporters to try this
food out. I've never seen Magic City profiled on the
Food Network. That's never seen Rachel Ray. There nothing. There
is someone in the Fox Bus radio building we could
go probably ask to be honest, continue speaking, because I'm
I'm unfamiliar with this, Okay, yeah, yeah, all right. I

(52:39):
thought you meant somebody in the building right now, and
I was like, you know, I don't take Finley. I
don't take Finley as a strip club aficionada. I've gone
to Atlanta multiple times. I know some great restaurants around there.
Shout out to the Vortex from the best Burgers and
all of Georgia. I have not had the pleasure of
Magic City, though. Be very careful with the terminology that
you used to describe, and it's and it's fine cuisine,

(53:02):
So Lou Williams, he's gonna be quarantined. It's look, it's
not gonna be life or death for the Clippers. It's
really not. It's just kind of hilarious because this is
a kind of thing where trying to sell this, there's
gonna be a large contingent of people that will never
believe that he was there for the food, and we'll
probably never believe that there weren't entertainers there. Rule of thumb,

(53:27):
if you're gonna go to a strip club in the
middle of a pandemic right before your season is about
to start, when quarantine is on the line, No Photos
eight seven seven nine on on Fox. That's six six
three six nine. We'll talk some more NBA on the
other side. If the Milwaukee Bucks don't get the job

(53:47):
done this year, will they ever get it done? That's
one topic. Also, Lebron is talking and not sounding particularly
intelligent on a certain pretty key issue where I think
he needs to educate himself or just be a little
more cautious with the way he's describing things. We'll talk
about all that next. This is a Jason Martin show
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(54:10):
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You can find me there at least for the next

(54:31):
two hours until I disappear, probably for another week. Tell me, man,
if you don't need to be on social media, don't
be on it right now. Just don't. I mean, maybe
it's set up some lists if you wanna like follow
a bunch of people that are talking about baseball games
or something like that. Just escape there though, don't go
there for there's just there's just it's a sewage plant

(54:54):
on their folks. I mean, I've been on for what
two hours? I guess maybe not hight two hours. I
think I logged on around one thirty, and by five
I was just like, oh man, I'm gonna go back
to Doctor Who and reading novels. I'm gonna do something else.

(55:16):
I do want to talk about something Lebron James said
a couple of days ago, and it's a it's a
fairly lengthy quote here, but I'm gonna read the entire
thing to you so you get it in context. And
then I just I don't understand this. I don't understand
the pushback against this. I don't understand it's being called
and and accurately semantic overload. But I'm gonna read this.

(55:40):
This is what Lebron said in a media availability quote.
A lot of people kind of use this analogy talking
about Black Lives Matter as a movement. It's not a movement.
When you're black, it's not a movement. It's a lifestyle.
We sit here and say it's a movement, and okay,
how long is this movement gonna last? Don't stop the movement. No,

(56:04):
this is a walk of life when you wake up
in your black that is what it is. It shouldn't
be a movement. It should be a lifestyle. This is
who we are. I don't like the word movement because unfortunately,
in America and in society, there ain't been no bleap
movement for us. There ain't been no movement unquote. I

(56:27):
don't like the word movement either, Lebron, because I know
it exists, not the word, but the word as it
relates to black Lives Matter. I've said this for two weeks.
It's out there. This is something that you have to
educate yourself about because there is semantic overload going on

(56:49):
all over the place. And what that basically means is
there's a sentence that we all agree with, and then
there's a movement that very few of us would if
we actually knew what was behind it. These two things
are different. That's why there is controversy here. There is
no controversy whatsoever in the statement black lives matter at all.

(57:15):
But when I read from Lebron James that there's never
been a movement for blacks in America, I'm just kind
of taken aback. I mean Lebron and what he's been
able to accomplish and where he started, and you know

(57:36):
what he was able to raise up out of and
what he is able to do now, and the money
he's given to charity, and all of the power that
he wields, the leverage that he holds not just in
his sport but outside of it, the world in which
he lives right now, if he looks around and sees

(57:57):
that as well, I know what he looks around and
sees it as because that's what we're being taught right now.
That's what we're being told erroneously as far as I'm concerned.
But you know, that's up for you know, you can
make that decision for yourself. But to say that there's
not been a movement, that's just the kind of thing
where Lebron probably needs to stop and think a bit

(58:18):
before he says things like this, Because there was a
time in the country when slavery actually happened. There hasn't
been a movement. How about the civil rights movement, how
about the abolitionist movement. There have been multiple movements for
black specifically, Thank God, thank God, thank the Lord above. Folks,

(58:41):
that Lebron James is making the money that he is,
That all of these athletes or celebrities or anybody else
is able in this country to make the money that
they make, to live the kind of lives that they live,
to have freedom to say what they want to say.
This is not in indicative of the world that Lebron

(59:02):
James actually seems to think we live in. But when
you say I don't like the word movement, then do
something about it, Lebron. My whole issue here isn't in
a sentence that you really believe in. It's that the

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sentence doesn't come unattached with other things. Because you don't
donate money to parts of speech or pieces of pieces
of paragraphs. You're not donating money to three words. You're
donating money to a global organization. So change it. If

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it's not a movement, Lebron, then instead of putting Black
Lives Matter on the court, put support Black Lives or
anything else that's basically the exact same. Don't form a corporation.
Make it a five oh one C three nonprofit or
something where it's all donations and everything is transparent, where

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you know exactly where it's going, and you can funnel it.
Lebron and the NBA can funnel it to the causes
specifically to those communities to help in all of these
different specific ways. Just do that. If it's not a movement,
then just change the semantics, change the name of it,

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and then make that your rallying cry. Has anybody thought
about this? Why would you support something that clearly has controversy?
And then just say I don't like the word movement.
The word movement, he says, the word movement is an
analogy that people are using no, Lebron, it's not an

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analogy because it's not a comparison. That isn't true. It's
direct fact. There's a movement, and there's a sense it's
the movement is a neo Marxist organization. Two of the
three founders make it clear in their own words. Look
at their mission statement, which has now been kind of scrubbed,

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but you can find archives of this. It doesn't take
long to figure this out. Just change the semantics. Black
Lives Matter is toxic because it's controversial. It's not going
to help your message to use that. So support black
lives or Black Lives Count or anything else. Make that

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an NBA specific deal and funnel that money with transparency
wherever it needs to go, specifically, because let me tell
you who's not transparent, the organization, the movement word that
you don't like, That is what's plastered on the courts

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in Orlando, and what's on the mound in Major League
Baseball as a stencil, and what might be on the
helmets in the NFL on the fall. You can say
until you're blue in the face, Lebron, that it's just
a sentence. It's not a movement, it's just it's a
walk of life. No, it's a movement. I promise you

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it is. Even if they're now trying to back away
to some degree so that you don't exactly know what's
going on, I promise you it is. So I'm calling
upon you, Lebron, because you have the power to make
something like this happen, because people listen to you. Millions

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of children look up to you. Even adults idolize you
and look up to you. Take black lives matter out
of the equation and just change one word in it,
and don't have a dot org, don't have a global corporation,

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don't have all these other things underneath it. Make it
very very simple. And then say, look, this amount of
money is going to the Boys and Girls Club, and
this is going here, and this is going to this ministry,
and this is going to this specific charity, and this
is going to this literacy program and all of this
kind of thing. Imagine what that would do, Lebron. Then

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you could actually maybe even create a movement that you
would be able to be behind. There's no controversy behind
the statement black lives matter. There's not anybody that disagrees
with that is a reprehensible human being, and I mean
disagrees with that sentence. Reprehensible, unacceptable, But it's also so
unbelievably rare that there's no point in putting it on

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the basketball court. It's the same thing as putting I
hate murder, we hate murder on a basketball court. What
are you accomplishing here unless we hate murder is also
a movement. That's that's my issue lb J. What you're

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saying about it being a way of life and all
this other kind of stuff. We can disagree on the
extent of that, and we can disagree on the statistics,
and I can tell you I don't think we're in
a systemically racist country at all, but you can argue
against that, and we can have debates on the merits there.
But we can't have debates when you say Black Lives
Matter is not a movement, and I don't like the

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word movement, and I hate when people are using this
analogy to it being a movement. It's not an analogy,
it's a fact. All you need to do is use
your authority to create a new hashtag sentence. Everybody in
the NBA. Can you can even bargain it? You know,

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you can sit down with Chris Paul and everybody in
the NBA Players Association, and you can come up with
whatever the slogan is for you separated entire early from
the neo Marxist organization that you may not even realize
that you're supporting, and there's not gonna be any controversy,
or if there is, it's gonna be very minor. But

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here I think you're actually clouding and harming your own
message because there are a large group amount of there
are a substantial amount of people in this country that
do recognize the difference, even if you don't, And I'm
gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and say
you don't that you don't really know that there's a
movement here, at least to the degree of what it entails.

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Just change it black Lives count, save black lives anything
else other than Black Lives Matter, and you erase a
lot of this problem. But notice that's not happening. Notice
it's just BLM left and right. Notice the Toronto Raptors
behind them, they've got Black Lives Matter in the same
font that you'll find on the website, being painted on

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streets and all this stuff. This is semantic overload. This
is a sentence with a large hidden meaning behind it
that ain't good, that is divisive. There is a difference.
I agree, Lebron. I don't like it being a movement either,

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not at all. But you can't use the word analogy
when it's a fact. When you say it's a lifestyle
and he says it shouldn't be a movement, it should
be a lifestyle. Amen, you're right, it shouldn't be a movement.
The movement is toxic. You are an example of the

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inverse of it, the opposite of it, because of the
success you've achieved, the voice that you have, and the
good that you've done. So stand up. We won't even
get into the Hong Kong thing right now. Stand up
and come up with something original, something unique that connotes

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that sentence without the sludge behind it. That is my
challenge to you. Eight seven, seven, nine nine on Fox
is how you reached the program. Let's bring in Brian Finley,
who was not a Lakers fan, he's a Clippers fan. Uh,
and lou William how to feel about it? So, yeah,
this is a bit crazy, and I love the music,

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or shall I say the crowd noise in the background
actually can hear both shout out to Chris p So, yeah, Jason,
the whole strip club thing. I'll tell you a quick story.
I've been once. I was eighteen years old, went with
some high school friends. I'll never forget one of my
friends pulling up extra dough for like the v I p.
He told me afterwards he thought the girl liked her,

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and I said, I'm sure she did. Yeah, I've been.
I think I've went three or four times in my life.
And I remember the last time. I was single at
the time, and I was just like, I think I
met my future wife. She she loved me to death,
and somebody else had been like just paying for her
to hang out. I guess in there for a while
and I was just like, Oh, I forgot this is

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how this works for everybody that walks in the door. Yeah,
we were really vibing. I really felt a connection until
that wasn't actually the case, until until your connection to
the wallet got a little too soft and you had
no more bills, no question, Jason Jamal Adams getting his
way after ridiculing Jed, said coach Adam Gaze New York,
trading the defensive back to the Seahawks Seattle in return

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sending over a Fannie pack of assets headlined by a
pair of first round draft picks. Yes, as Jason mentioned,
several media outlets reporting the NBA is gathering intel on
how Clipper Lou Williams spent an excused absence from Tells
getting all the information possible, because Williams did admit he

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went to a strip club in Atlanta on Thursday solely
for the food man. They must have some great shrimp,
That's all I'm saying, that is what I'm hearing. Yeah,
I'll bet your hearing that. Earlier that day on Thursday,
he did attend a serious matter with the family funeral
that took place. Williams will have to quarantine between four

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to ten days before we joining the team. Now, if
he has to sit out the full ten days, Jason,
he will miss two regular season games and lose one
fifty thou dollars in salary. All right, Well, that's that's
bad to lose the money like that's that's a lot
of money in my life. At least, that's a huge
amount of money to lose. I would cry for weeks
because of that. But as a Clippers fan, you recognize

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the same thing I basically said, which is this isn't
gonna affect him. He's gonna be back before they really
need him. Yeah, I don't think it's worth it, because
I don't think anybody could blow up at a strip
club one night. I don't know, I don't know if
that's possible. Maybe your buddy, maybe my buddy, for sure.
The Padres all loan in first place in the NL
West after no one cares about that body slamming the

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Diamondbacks five one, the Giants able to weather the Dodgers
five four, The Nationals power drill the Yankees nine to
the Braves tack on three runs. Now, I got your
ears perked up, Jason. Three runs at the top of
the tenth for Atlanta slight the Mets five. Three. World
Series Yeah, two games in, Dylan Bundy pitched a scoreless

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six and two thirds innings as the Angels flummixe at
the Athletics for one, and finally the Cardinals strangle the
Pirates nine one. Adam Waynewright spotted only one and run
through six innings, and Jason, I read and I was
watching this piece that was done with Doc Rivers being
interviewed by Jeff Goodman Bob Bryan, and they were talking

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about Lou Williams, and this was right at the start
of the pandemic, and Doc Rivers basically explained that when
they got their hands on Lou Williams, that doctor did
not want him on the team, noting his selfishness and
that he was creating all sorts of problems in that
he had been going from team to team to team

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over That's true. A few years it seemed like Lou
was getting his act together. But maybe this is just
a relapse for him. That's just I don't know. I
just think this is poor judgment. I don't know if
it's you can maybe call this selfishness to a degree.
I just think this isn't really thinking it through. I
think he may have maybe. I mean, since there's actually
a history of him talking about this is his favorite
restaurant and all this stuff, like way back in the day.

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It's not like it just happened yesterday. Then okay. I
just think maybe in the midst of a pandemic, I'm
staying away from the strip club buffet exactly. I just
feel like there it's gonna be hard to sell that
to the rest of the public. When you're Lou Williams.
Maybe he doesn't care. I don't know. Welcome back Fox
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The only hard part figuring out which way is easier.
I'm on Twitter at j mar Radio. Yeah, I mean,
that's interesting if Doc Rivers wasn't really too keen on
getting Lou Williams. And that's sort of interesting in its
own right because he was moving around from team to team.
We know how talented he is. He's won the six

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Man of the Year twice. He's certainly got a shot
at winning it for a third time this year. Really
talented and an unbelievable score. I know Charles Barkley's talked
about Lou Williams other than James Harden is one of
the most just at times, you just cannot stop Lou Williams.
So why wouldn't everybody want that on their team? Well,
if there are other concerns, selfishness is not a word

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that you want to hear if you're selfish in terms
of your tendencies off the court, then you better be
daggon good on it. And Lou Williams is certainly good
enough that he's still playing for the Clippers and actually playing. Uh,
you know, Doc Rivers who didn't want him. There is
but it's just the optics here, Like you can go

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wherever you want to eat, and you're an adult and
you can make decisions. It's just you have to be
discerning in life. As you get older, you're supposed to
get a little bit wiser, and wisdom doesn't mean you're
always gonna make the right choice. It means you're gonna
make fewer bad choices. Some people think that you're never
going to make a bad choice in your life, or

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if you feel that way as you get older, like oh,
you know, once you're seventy five, you're not making any mistakes.
We're sure you are. We all need grace every single day.
They're probably things I've already said on this show where
I need absolution, where I need grace. I make mistakes,
I say things erroneously. But as you get older, your

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discernment it is supposed to assist you in your decision making.
It's not that all of the decisions are going to
be right it's that you're gonna make fewer bad ones
because they're coming from the right place. It's the same
thing is being quick on the Twitter trigger finger. When

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you feel like you have to tweet every five seconds. Yeah,
you're probably gonna make some mistakes there, and if you're famous,
you better be real careful. Same thing with Instagram or
anything else. DeShawn Jackson, just as an example of that,
just you gotta slow down, you gotta figure out, you
gotta know what you're saying, and you've got to realize

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that the Internet is in ink, somebody's gonna see it instantly,
and it can affect you in every way possible. So
you've got to be cautious about that all and that
that this does not reek of caution by Lou Williams.
This reeks of almost a sense of invincibility. This is

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raskol Mcov from Dostoyevsky. Extraordinary man. He can do it.
I'm not a pro athlete, and I know that's a
completely different life than just about anything else. But I
do know, in the midst of a pandemic, I'm probably
not going to a strip club right before my team's
season kicks back off. After a you know, five month

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layoff inside an NBA bubble where there's testing and all
of these advanced procedures and stuff like that. I'm probably
gonna be incredibly cautious if i have to leave the
bubble for a very valid reason. As Lou Williams had,
I'm probably gonna stick away from the Magic City Gentleman's
Establishment for my dinner, probably gonna find somewhere else to

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get take out. Just gonna be cautious. But again, it's
not really gonna hurt the Clippers because he'll be back
before they really need him because of where they are saying.
Maybe Lou Williams knows that maybe he can be a
little bit more reckless because he's fully aware of that.
The same thing as Draymond Green, Like it's easy for
Draymond Green to say the things he doesn't act the

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way he has throughout his time in Golden State when
he's backed up by three Hall of Famers. If he
was in Orlando, that dude would not say a word.
Just food for thought. We'll be right back to Jason
Martin Show here on Fox Sports Radio Shine Little Collective
Soul to finish off the second hour. Alright, so I'm

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watching Dodgers Giants. Eric, I know your Dodgers guy, so
you're gonna have to get in on this. I didn't
see this earlier. These are cardboard cutouts, or these virtual fans.
So they had cardboard cutouts behind home play. Those are
cardboard through spots along foul ball area, along the you know,
first and baseline or first and third baseline, and I

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think around the first um row in the in the
stands and the bleachers. Okay, they had virtual fans in
parts of the telecast, like you know, super imposed in
So yeah, like I'm watching I'm pretty sure the same
pie as you on this one right now. So along
the edge of it, there are parts where you see
virtual fans, and there are parts where and there's the

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cutoutsider there you know in real life. All right, these
hot outs. This is the only thing that I could
think of. First off, this has gotta go, Like this
is just you're exactly right. This is basically a giant
exclamation point reminding us there are no friends. We know,
there's nobody there. Don't try to sugarcoat it, like it's
just making it weird, and like it's one of those
things where it's it's quirky. You know, it's fun maybe

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for the first couple of times, you know, somebody, somebody
submitted the picture of their dog. It's fun. But al right,
if you want to put them, if you want to
put them out there, like put like ten or fifteen
targets or something out in the outfield for people to
hit chy different somebody. So Will Smith, the Dodgers catcher,
actually hit um hit a home run today and it
took a head off of somebody out in the bleacher area,

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and the guy tweeted Will Smith saying, hey, since it
took out my my cut out, do I get the ball?
And Will Smith actually replied to him, so he's gonna
look him up with like a little swag bag or whatever.
So I guess there are some teams that are doing
some cool stuff. I have, like foul ball zones where
if like you're you're kind of gets hit by the ball,
you'll get the ball. Milty and stuff like that, quirky
little things. But yeah, it's it's one of those things
where it's like, okay, guys, we know there's nobody there.

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We don't need this weird cutout stuff going on, all right,
So this is the only thing I could think of
when I looked at these virtual fans behind home plate,
These like four rows at chavez Ervine. The Seinfeld episode
The Slicer where George was in a photo with Krueger
who was an employer and somebody he was trying to

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get a job with and ended up getting a job with.
And it was Krueger and his family, and George was
on the beach and George hadn't and George got angry
at him, like threw a boom box into the deal
or whatever. It is a really bad moment. He realized
he was in the photo, so he takes the photo
and he air brushes himself out of it, but they
end up airbrushing Krueger out of it instead, and then

(01:18:41):
they end up trying to put Krueger back, and the
guy that tries to do it draws him in like
air brushes him back into this thing. It looks like
a cartoon. That's the only thing I could think of
looking at this is just how ridiculous it is that
you've got this, Like I need a water pistol to
knock these people down. Um behind home plate just enough

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with this. It's clever if you put them in the
outfield and you do something for charity, but we don't
need the four or five rows full of cardboard cutouts
behind home plate. Like It's like, it's all I can see.
And now I'm just like, well, who's there? I see
Spielberg and blah blah blah. And then when you go
from that to the virtual fans in the seats, and
then there's more cardboard cutouts above a dug out here

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and there like, and then they show another shot and
you can't see anybody in the seats because the virtual
is only happening and during the game action itself. This
is just too much for my feeble simple brain to comprehend.
I would just say, hey, guys, let's give up the
ghost on this one, and we'll put a few things

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out in the outfield to have some fun, and we
can talk about that a little bit. But outside of that,
let's just recognize that baseball is being played without fans
right now and embrace that and do the same thing
that we used to do when we listen to baseball
on the radio every day when we had three television
channels and baseball was really rolling. Just tell stories, tell

(01:20:09):
stories between pitches, Just tell the story of this unique
baseball season day today, all of this, because it's all
gonna be played. We really are kind of watching a
very we're watching a book, but we're watching a good book.
You know, you have that book that you get assigned
in English class, like the Epic of Gilgames or something,
but something longer, and it takes you forever to read it,

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or it would because it's just boring and droll, and
then it's a book that you absolutely love and you
can't put down and you read it in two or
three sittings. That's what we got with baseball right now.
So you've got this good book where you're not forgetting
things from day to day. This is how you can
actually build some momentum focused on the story, not on
the cardboard cutouts that remind me of Kruga on Sidefeld.

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We'll be right back third hour of the program. If
it's the first or the second hour for you. Welcome
or welcome back Jason Martin Show on Fox Sports Radio.
I'm Jason Martin on Twitter at j Marra Radio. I
do the show out of Nashville, Tennessee Music City Cruise
in l A. That's Eric Roberts. That's Chris Perfette. That's

(01:21:14):
is Brian Finley. We will hear some more from them
a little bit later on. So I want to talk
about two different teams in two different sports. This is
one of those radio moments where it's just like during
the break, it just kind of hit me that a
couple of things I wanted to talk about, and we

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can maybe kind of bump them together here, and I
tease this earlier. One of these things. Milwaukee Bucks are
fifty three and twelve NBA getting started on Thursday. I
think the bucks first game is Friday against the Celtics.
So I'm not mistaken in the bubble. Milwaukee's having a
historically good year. Their number one in the East. They

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have the best record in the NBA, Lakers a second
at the Clippers four and twenty, and the Raptors are
the Raptors really have the third best record in the
league at forty six and eighteen, but they're still six
and a half back of the Bucks because of just
how ridiculous of Bucks have been. If the Bucks don't

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get it done this year kind of feels like, one
it's a waste and two they're not going to eventually
a narrative starts to build and it's hard to overcome. Internally.
This is the way I felt about James Harden the
way I still feel about James Harden in Houston, because

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I watched him in Oklahoma City and I watched him
fail in Houston, that he had lost my trust. He
had no more equity with me in terms of me
being able to predict that the Rockets were gonna win
a championship once I saw him collapse against the Spurs
in that game and just look defeated, and just like

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he quit and lost to a Spurs team that, if
I'm not mistaken, did not have Kawhi Leonard on it
at the time he was heard and still lost. Uh,
that was pretty much it at that point. I need
to see James Harden win a championship. At that point,
I'll say, Okay, well maybe next year I can predict
them to win, but he's gotta win one at this

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point for me to believe that he can. Milwaukee is
not quite there yet. But is Johan is really gonna
play his entire career there? Do you think that? Or
do you think he's going somewhere else when he gets
the opportunity this core of talent that they have around

(01:23:43):
him is good enough to win a championship. But if
they can't do it, then it just kind of feels like,
all right, this is gonna this is destined to be
one of those outstanding basketball teams that's just not meant
to be a championship team, even though they have enough
talent to do it. So I'm looking at them and
I'm saying they have to realize this is this is

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the opportunity. They've looked good in their exhibition games. Brook
Lopez is having a really good season, Chris Middleton is
having a good year. Janice at Jonice. We know how
good they can be. We've also seen them just kind
of flounder a bit when they run into battle tough
teams with superstars in the postseason. Now, how many of

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those are they going to run into in the East
this year? Toronto is good, but Toronto doesn't have Kauai.
And even though I still think that's a good basketball team,
Kauai was the killer, I don't think they have that.
Even though they've got talent there, they absolutely a really
good team, I don't think they have that same mentality
that they're gonna need in that case and you look

(01:24:49):
at the rest of it. Yeah, there's some teams that
could call some damage. But the Bucks should win the East.
They should. There's a piece of me it doesn't think
they're going to. But even if they do, do you
think they're gonna beat Lebron and Anthony Davis or Kawhi
Leonard and crew or maybe even a Denver or if
you want to go with the Harden route, you can

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We're one of those squads. It's hard to predict that
because we haven't seen it. Be honest, has gotten better
every year, and he looked very defeated last year in
terms of I'm coming back and I'm coming back hard.
He didn't look defeated like I'm done forever. He looked
defeated like I'm mad, I'm gonna go home my skills
a little bit more. I'm gonna come back and I'm
gonna be even more of a force. But we haven't

(01:25:34):
seen it yet, and we haven't We don't know what
this is gonna look like because no one has ever
experienced what these guys are about to go through in
this bubble over the next couple of months. But if
the Bucks don't get it done, this year. This feels
like one of those moments where here's where we determine
whether or not they can win a couple of championships
or they're gonna win zero. This is the year they
can do it. If they don't, and I said this

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before the season, because we saw how good they were
last year and then what happened to them in the postseason.
If they don't do it this year, they're very close
to James Harden territory where I'll never predict them to
do it. Right now, I'm sort of on the fence.
They're capable of it, but I still need to see
it when it counts. Usually, the NBA is a stepping

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stone kind of league where you move up from like
an eight C to a four and then you just
keep on getting better, but you keep getting beaten, but
you're getting a little further and you get a little
better roster's getting a little bit more veteran, a little
more chemistry, and then you're ready to take that step.
This has to be the year they do it, because
it just feels like they're gonna end up. It's like
they have enough talent, but maybe that mix just isn't

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supposed to win a championship, and they happen to be
playing in an era where there are a lot of
other good teams that can knock them off even with
their record, but they could win. I don't think they're
going to. So I was thinking about the Bucks, and
I was thinking about how do they feel about themselves.
They have to know their situation and feel like they
can win a title, and they have to know this

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might be their real chance, because who knows what's gonna
happen with Janice in the future. It's Milwaukee, it's not
Los Angeles, it's not New York, it's not Miami. Is
he gonna want to stay in Milwaukee? Some guys do,
but and I'm not talking about Milwaukee specifically, but smaller

(01:27:26):
market teams. But Janice, I would not bet that he's
gonna be there his entire career. Now. If he's able
to win a championship, I don't know if that makes
it more or less likely, but this is the year
they can do it. So that so I'm sit there
thinking about how the Bucks feel about themselves, and then
I'm thinking about the Seattle Seahawks and how they must
feel about themselves, because to make this deal for Jamal Adams,

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who got himself out of town in New York by
crushing the Jets ownership and destroying Adam Gaze. And he
could be right on both accounts. I guarantee you he's
right about Adam Gaze based on every bit of evidence
that we have seen about how Adam Gates gets along
with superstar players, and Jamal Adams, who's a safety, wants

(01:28:16):
to be paid like a position that usually paid more,
meaning not a safety as good as he is. But
the Seahawks are looking for Cam Chancellor's two point oh
and so they're gonna do whatever they can here, and
they think Jamal Adams, who actually was able to get
to the quarterback last year, can also help them on
the pass rush. But they lost Clowney, they replaced him

(01:28:37):
with Irvin. They bring in a couple of other guys,
but they're not the same defense that they were if
you look in. Bill Barnwell made this point at ESPN,
and I think it's very worthy. You've got Russell Wilson.
We know how good he is, but based on the
guys that they have gotten rid of in the last
couple of years, the moves that they have made seemed

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like they didn't feel like they were a championship level team,
Like they didn't feel like they were that close because
they weren't keeping around a couple of guys. I don't
mean the malcontents are the ones that maybe were causing
divisiveness in the locker room. I'm saying that they've shuttled
off some talent. They've jettisoned off some talent there that

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could have helped them, that would have kept them closer
to winning a Super Bowl, and they could have done
it and they did not do it. So you've got
Russell Wilson and you've still got a few good years
left with him. I mean, he's outstanding in every way.
They've always been questions about weapons around him and the
fact that they're just intent to run the football continuously

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and not utilize him as much as they could otherwise.
But here they're bringing in Jamal Adams, and Jamal Adams
is a kind of guy that you bring in when
you think you're about to win a championship and I'm
thinking about the Bucks and I'm thinking about you know,
I just don't see it. I just don't I think
that this is this Bucks team is just gonna be
in the Hall of Very Good. If there was a

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Hall of Fame for teams, I don't think this one's
gonna make it. And when I'm thinking about the Seahawks,
I'm just thinking, if they think they're close to a championship,
then they're the only ones I know they made the playoffs.
I get all of that, but the Seahawks looked to me.
They feel to me like kind of a relic. There

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are new teams doing more dynamic things. Their offense is
not getting more dynamic. As good a defensive coach as
Pete Carroll is, especially with the secondary players, which could
make Jamal Adams even more of a beast. They are
the team. They're the kind of team I could see

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just taking a fall and not even making the playoffs.
If they didn't have Russell Wilson, it wouldn't even be
a question. But this move and given up two future
first round picks that, as some have mentioned, probably will
fall in the early twenties unless they're just dreadful, and
I don't think they're dropping off a cliff. It just

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seems like their best days are behind them, and getting
Jamal Adams isn't instantly going to make you a super
Bowl contender. Now it could if you had every other piece,
but I don't feel like I feel like that team
is a lot less secure. So I'm looking at two
teams that we've kind of come to expect over this
last couple of years. This is one of the better

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franchises in sports, but it's also one that in a
case of Seattle is far removed from the Super Bowl
team of years back, legion of boom, and then a
Bucks team that is this feels like kind of a
last stand moment for this group. If you don't do

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it this way, you have to do something different because
you can't just keep running into the same wall. Two
different sports. Maybe imperfect to try to compare them together,
but I'm sitting here thinking about both of them, and
I'm thinking about their future. This is making a break
it time for the Bucks and the Seahawks are behaving
like this is it for them, and Jamal Adams puts

(01:32:12):
them over the top. And I don't think many people
out there listening to this program right now would agree
with that statement. Do you really feel like Seattle is
one of those teams? It's just like they can win
a Super Bowl? Like maybe they can, but would you
better sent on that. I mean, just look at the
NFC right now and how loaded they are and how

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many top flight offenses there are. Yeah, Jamal Adams, that's
the kind of guy you want to bring in in
that case. But this is a guy who certainly loves
him some him in the words of TEO, and might
be difficult to try and rain in at times. And

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this is the franchise that has had some of those
guys before, and look, they flourished with some of those guys,
so maybe that's gonna happen again. But the Adams deal
the hall that the Jets were able to get here. Yeah,
this is so Jets because everybody the Jets draft, if
you go back and look at their drafts of the
last like five six years, they have almost none of
those guys left and they've just blown so many picks.

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Jamal Adams was certainly not a blown pick, but he
wanted out of town as fast as he could get there.
What does that say about Adam Gates? Probably not good things.
But I first guessed that when Gates was hired because
I didn't understand it because what I had seen from
him as a head coach prior in Miami did not
make me think, oh, well, he's gonna be the savior
in New York. It's like Peyton Manning gave him a

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career basically in turn, and Peyton mann has probably given
a lot of guys better careers and they would have
had otherwise. But Adam Gates is a huge beneficiary there,
an enormous beneficiary. I just don't think the Seahawks are
a safety away from a championship, do you. It's a

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good deal for the Jets if Adams, i mean Adams
was gonna force this way out like apparently that had
become untenable. They had to do something. They managed to
get two first round picks out of it, even with
all of the leverage that Adams kind of killed for
them all because of the way in which he conducted

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himself over the last couple of weeks. So the Jets
did pretty well here for the Jets, and the Seahawks
got an All Pro player, a first team All Pro
at safety who is a guy that could move positions
and play multiple positions on the field and can get
to the quarterback. But that is a lot. That is

(01:34:48):
a lot to give up, and that's the kind of
move that you make when you think you are about
to win a Super Bowl and you're one piece away.
And I just don't think the Seahawks or a team
where if you looked at their roster top to body,
like boy they get a safety, they're shoeing or they're
gonna be just demlunstable. Better does Jamal Adams give them
another win in the regular season? I maybe paying that position,

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we're giving up for that position. It's questionable. We'll say
that now Pete Carroll because of his experience and his
talent at coaching that defensive backs in particular the secondary,
but just as a defensive coach, and we know what

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Seattle can do defensively generally, maybe I'll eat my words.
Maybe this is gonna turn out to be a great
move for Seattle. But between the two, I think the
Jets did better here because dude basically ruined any way
that you could sell him because of how he disparaged

(01:35:58):
you publicly, your organised zation and your head coach like, Okay,
well he's probably not gonna be able to play here anymore.
We've got to find a new home for him. When
that's there, usually you're not able to get two first
round picks in the third getting two first round picks period,
very few people believe it's gonna be able to happen,
and the Jets were able to do it, which means

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the Seahawks think Jamal Adams is otherworldly, and maybe he is.
But I'm not even sure the Seahawks are gonna make
the playoffs this year. That's how stack the NFC is
and how I just don't buy into the offensive coaching
strategy of the Seattle Seahawks just don't never have When
you've got Russell Wilson, unleashed Russell Wilson, we've never seen

(01:36:39):
it before. Maybe he's gonna come out this year and
and do what we know he's capable of, but usually
he's hampered by the guys holding clipboards on the sidelines
that are calling the place, dudes in the headsets. If
it was left up to him, sky's the limit. But
we know that it's not because it never has been before.
So that's a lot to pay for a safety when

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it's your offense is gonna keep you maybe out of
the playoffs. Maybe I'll change that opinion before the season starts,
but right now not, I'm just not really up on
the Seahawks. So good on the Jets for finding way
to get somebody out of town that basically demanded to
be put out of town and make sure everybody in
the world knew how unhappy he was and how he
was even willing to be disrespectful if he had to

(01:37:24):
in public. A lot of times that doesn't work. This
time it did in terms of them still getting a
huge haul in return. We'll be right back. This is
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about the college football versus NFL season debate, and I

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don't think anybody at this point doesn't think the NFL
is gonna play Now that the NFL p A, now
that they've come to whatever arrangement they needed to financially
vote on Friday camps opening, We're gonna have a season
is it gonna start on time? I guess you never
know what's gonna happen over the next few weeks. But

(01:38:29):
they're gonna play. Are people gonna be in the seats
to some degree? I think somebody will somewhere, not at
all places. No. But college has been a different argument,
and it's been treated differently, and it's been covered differently,
and there's been a number of theories as to why
there's been gambling theories. There's been, uh, this is the

(01:38:53):
last bastion for those that are trying to keep everything
shut down. There's a lot that's out there. M At
this point, I think we're all pretty comfortable saying the
NFL is gonna happen. We're watching Major League Baseball. Happened, yes,
in empty stadiums with cardboard cutouts in virtual fans and
pumped in crowd noise. But we're watching baseball. We're about

(01:39:14):
to watch basketball. We're gonna watch pro football. College football
is still kind of up in the air, but I
still believe we're going to But I understand the difference
in looking at college and looking at pro There's the

(01:39:35):
argument that and you've heard this from a number of
athletic directors and even some coaches that if students aren't
on campus, then how in the world can you play football?
And really, you could look at it otherwise and say,
we'll keep the kids at home, but let's play football.
We've got athletes that are in unbelievable physical condition that
are not in the risk category. If there are a

(01:39:55):
few on your team that maybe they can't play or
shouldn't play, you've got to be careful. But outside of that,
just let them play football and keep everybody else at
on Like, just because there's not people on campus doesn't
mean you couldn't play football. You could still do that.
That's just one side of everything that's out there. But
the reason I understand the difference here is because one

(01:40:21):
group of athletes is being paid millions of dollars to
incur risk and the other is being paid Yeah, the
jokes can start here, but zero dollars to incur risk. Yes,
they're getting an education, and they're getting an opportunity to

(01:40:41):
basically audition at all times for their future. You know,
they'll have a combine and they can have private workouts
and whatever else. But this is this tape matters. But
they're not being paid to incur risk right now. So
if you believe that COVID nineteen is hugely problematic, then

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the amateurs, the guys that aren't being paid, they're probably
the ones that aren't going to take the risk, or
they're the ones that you can understand wouldn't want to
take the risk, or that that's where you can have
some level of debate. But if you're seeing what we're
seeing with the very low numbers in Major League Baseball,

(01:41:27):
in the n b A, in the NFL testing numbers, Yeah,
we saw Rutgers, I guess has a few cases right now,
and we had seen the Clempson numbers and all this stuff,
but by and large we're seeing less and less, and
we're seeing what we're seeing from the professional sports leagues
is this can be controlled, then college football should not

(01:41:54):
be on the chopping block in the way that it is.
So what I'm saying is I can understand the debate.
I can understand why college football wouldn't be the first
one you would think should be back. Pro should because
there's a lot of money involved. And I don't mean
revenue for the owners, because there's still revenue for the

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universities that we know full well eight of a budget
or whatever for an athletic department. On average, somewhere in
that neighborhood comes from the football program and a football season.
But the fact that one group of athletes is cashing

(01:42:35):
in any other is not wouldn't mean okay, if one
is going to stay closed down, then it would be
college football over the NFL. I only either one of
them should. I don't necessarily think either one of them is,
even though we may get conference only and we might
get a shortened schedule. And I guess the one thing

(01:42:57):
that we continue to know is we don't know everything
information on all sides. There's a reason that you're hearing
the lows and the highs pretty much at all times.
We're still trying to get a handle on everything. I
know where I stand on it. I don't know where
you stand on it. Unfortunately, it probably depends on where

(01:43:21):
you've actually gotten your information. If we were all treated
to exactly the same stuff and it was unbiased and
everybody was just going by the facts, we would actually
maybe be able to get some answers here. Good news is,
at least I think I've seen less articles this week
about how college football shouldn't be played, but we were

(01:43:41):
still hearing it. We're still hearing the same kind of
stuff out here, but there is a difference between these
two things. The NFL, now that they've got the finances
worked out, Patrick Mahomes said, Hey, now that I've seen
some of the protocols, I feel totally comfortable, and I
feel like most football players do. Football is a sport
where tough it out right. For the most part, these

(01:44:05):
things are going to happen. And going back to the
very beginning of the show tonight, when I was discussing
that baseball did the best ratings that have done since
two thousand and eleven, and the conclusion that the article
that I found and quoted from Awful Announcing was this
proves how much people missed baseball, But no, it didn't.

(01:44:27):
It proves that American team sports are king and we're
gonna watch. The proof about baseball will come from what's
it do once the NBA is back, and certainly once
we start paying attention to what's going on in football.
No preseason will help. It will help out the other sports,

(01:44:52):
no question, but our attention is about to get diverted
more and more. So everybody takes a bit of a
hit more than they would if they were the only
game in town, because you're splitting the same audience. But generally,
again college football, you have to take into consideration the

(01:45:15):
amateur nature of things. That's a debate for a different
day as to whether or not that should be a consideration.
Meaning maybe all should be professional, but that's not where
we are and it's probably not where we're likely to
be anywhere in the near future. The hope is we're
gonna play college football. The expectation, I would say is

(01:45:39):
we're going to play and it's gonna be really weird
if we're watching gigantic, you know, the Big House and
new and Stadium and Bryant Denny Stadium and Death Valley
and all this kind of stuff nearly empty. But we've
proven watching these other sports that we can pull this off,
and we can. We will find a way. But just

(01:46:02):
as you look at like the fact that you expand
the NBA playoffs to make sure the Pelicans get in
because Zion better beyond TV for the NBA. During this restart,
there was a question about what was gonna happen with
Notre Dame, and now it's well, they can compete for
the a c C championship this year. I bet you
just do it forever because this independent thing is nonsense.

(01:46:24):
Like this is a chance for experimentation of rules. It's
also the time to finally close the loophole on stupid
things that shouldn't be there. There's a lot of things
that you could kind of try to clean up right now.
Maybe this is going to be the start of something
to that degree. But there's still a lot to be

(01:46:46):
decided about college football and college athletics. But at the
very least, we are seeing less of the we can't
possibly play college football? How dare us play college football?
You're still hearing? And I saw a fine bomb, And
I've seen other people say this, and I've heard other
people say this is like, it's just about the money. Well, duh,

(01:47:07):
of course it is. Everything is about the money. The
main reason that we have sports at all, and certainly
the reason we have it back right now is thankfully
we live in a capitalist economy where money does matter
and people are trying to make sure that they earn
some of it. If there was no revenue this, I mean,

(01:47:31):
there wouldn't even be a discussion about college football right now.
That's just a weird argument to make. It's just like you,
I think Fine bombs the one that said you can't
say it's like, give me a good reason to play
college football, but you can't say the money. Why the
heck not give me a good reason to play college

(01:47:52):
football any year? Paul Money. I'm not saying that's the
best reason. We want to believe it's because of the
greatness to the sport and the competitiveness and all this.
And I think we kind of debunked that on this
program three weeks ago when I said, you want to
believe that these organizations are altruistic and they want to
do this because they have a responsibility to the community,

(01:48:12):
but they don't. They want to make money. And yeah, great,
they love to help out the community, but not until
they get their's. So it's fallacious to just act like, well,
you can't make the argument that college football should be
played just because of the money, Well, why the heck not.
That's why we do everything. Mad Men existed on a

(01:48:35):
MC because of the ads during that game, because they
need to do raise money and have people watching and
hopefully get into that key demographic of eighteen to forty nine.
All the shows that you love exist because the ad
time dictates that the networks keep them on. There's it's
nuts and bolts here the NFL and the revenue that

(01:48:58):
it's worth they're gonna play. The fact that Major League
Baseball is happening makes sense because the money involved. What
doesn't make sense. That's how long it took them to
figure this out and how much they lost that they
could have potentially gained for the future. Over the last
month and a half the NBA, we knew what the

(01:49:19):
revenue projections losses were gonna be. We saw what Adam
Silver said, We saw what some of the owners were saying.
They were going to try to find a way to play.
These players want their salaries. In all of these sports,
it's all about money. What don't we spend a lot
of time talking about on these airwaves on a day
to day basis. To all the people that are arguing

(01:49:40):
that college football you can't talk about it in terms
of money, I guess you can't because the athletes aren't
getting paid. But hundred hundred fifty million dollar endowments to
some of these universities and to these athletics programs and
to all of the pipeline of money that is funneled
out through merchandizing and apparel and everything else. It's a
third and preposterous and frankly stupid to exclude money from

(01:50:08):
the equation. But we talked about contracts on sports radio
all the time. What's dac worth, what's Jamal Adams worth?
What's Derrick Henry worth? Wow? McK mookie Betts three sixty
five million dollars? Patrick Mahomes five million dollars. Money counts
in America. And it's okay to say that's the reason

(01:50:30):
college football should be played. It might not be the
one that you want to think, but like I said,
we don't live in an altruistic society when it comes
down to business, and arguing the college football is anything
other than a business is wrong. Let's go to Brian
Finlay one more time and catch one more look at
the latest me Jason one note, really quickly. You're talking

(01:50:52):
about the gloom and doom out there. Did you see
this buster only of ESPN before Major League baseball seasons started?
And I don't want to jinx anything, but he said
that the baseball season was only thirty possible of starting
on time, and that looks like an absolute clown right
now because playing And I don't want to jinks anything

(01:51:14):
because we still have a long way to go, but
that low of numbers. Look, I mean that that the
worst thing that I've seen so far. And I called
this out last week as Dennis Dodd writing that article
with that like computer science professor that said three to
seven college football players will die if they try to
play the season this year, It's like, are you kidding me? Insane? Yeah. Meanwhile,

(01:51:36):
safety Jamal Adams heading to the Seahawks in a trade
with the Jets, New York gets a pot look of assets,
including two first round draft picks. Adams expedited the move
by barbecuing Jets coach Adam Gaze in the press. And
then Jason, did you see this twitter back and forth?
Lady On Bell took a crowbar out on his teammate

(01:51:59):
via Twitter quote, people do all the hoot and holler
and to get you brought in just to leave l
O L like people weird, Yo. The Internet got those
dudes doing whatever for attention. Even I think I remember
Bell talking a lot to try and get out of
a job in the past as well. Yeah, that is

(01:52:19):
the case. Adams went on to say in a short
and sustinct or succinct response, quote noted see week fourteen
and quote then bell countered noted what L O L
that you lied? Please trust that it is noted. Then,
and if I'm supposed to take see you in week
fourteen as a threat, I don't end quote. Wow, everything

(01:52:45):
could be just Vouchi's first pit. Yes. By the way,
somebody indicated to me on Twitter, Brian that he was
wearing a jersey of number nineteen. Come on, man, I
mean that's not a joke. He was wearing number nineteen.
Why would you? Why would your jersey number match the virus?
Oh my gosh, seriously, I saw this article Jason that

(01:53:09):
claimed he was the standout high school basketball player. The
dudes five seven Okay, there's not a lot of five
seven star high school basketball players. Maybe he was. Maybe
he was, but I know what. I was looking it up,
you know, I was just looking it up. I thought
it might be fake. I thought somebody's like, oh, it's funny,
it's a number nineteen. I looked it up. No, it's
number nineteen, bouncy war nineteen. That's that's just perfect. And finally,

(01:53:34):
Jason ESPN disclosing. The New York Knicks are firming up
a five yor deal with Tom Thibodeau to make him
head coach. New York has been a no show in
the playoffs the last seven years, and Jason, maybe this
is what we'll get them over the hump unless it
won't back. Yeah, yeah, Brian, and it better happen fast

(01:53:54):
because Stibideau has a habit of wearing out his welcome
relatively quickly because he's horror to play for. He's a
very intense coach. He's good, but he's intense. Welcome back
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four seven Auto. The only hard part figuring out which

(01:54:17):
way is easier. Yeah, Thibodeaux. There's always that story about
Doug Collins, and you kind of saw it in the
Last Dance, but it's something that we had heard for
a long time, is that Doug Collins was so intense
that he would just wear you out, and he would
wear himself out to the point that his team is
the teams he coached. Those players would worry about his

(01:54:37):
health because of just the level of seriousness that he
took it. So when he would go into the broadcast booth,
he was always good. I've always loved him as a broadcaster.
Whenever we would get on the floor, I'd start to
worry about him again because I had heard the stories
and you had seen it. They're just there are coaches
that wear on you, especially on the professional level. It's

(01:54:58):
just like after a while, l they end up having
to go somewhere else. Usually they can go and in
a short term do decent work. And Thibodeaux has had success.
We know this. But Thibodeaux is also a guy that
has that tendency to his intensity. Is a good thing
at first, and then after a while it's just like, hey,

(01:55:21):
all right, we get it. And there are guys that
just don't necessarily like being around him. He can bristle you.
I think maybe that's a good word. He at some point,
Tom Thibodeaux becomes steel wool in an organization like steel
wool that you just don't want necessarily near you, too
close to you, because it's a little bit too abrasive.

(01:55:41):
That's at least one of the knocks that we've heard
about Thibodeaux, but he's going to a NIXT team. That's
just Look, there's been no direction, there's been no obviously,
there's been no success, sustained success in a long long time.
There's been no stability. There's been no real sense of
authority either. Thibodeaux does command, and that if they'll just
leave him alone for a few years, maybe he can

(01:56:04):
be the start of something. Thibodeau, to me, isn't your
end game, but he can be the fixer. He can
be the dude that comes in and does the dirty
work and then you find the right guy to go
that next step. I'm not saying Thibodeaux can't win a championship.
I'm saying he's kind of more the blue collar dude,
ship shape kind of guy, get you rolling and then okay,

(01:56:29):
now we bring in the guy we want. Long term
and transition guys can be important, and that's what I
ultimately think Tom Thibodeaux will be. We'll be right back
to finish up the program. So Jason Martin show here
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(01:56:51):
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So I'll avoid talking about the Washington football team for now,
but I will talk about the Seattle Cracking on the

(01:57:13):
way out because I want to be a fan so
badly just because of the name. Finally somebody gets this
thing right, something original, unique, fun. They ought to sell
a ton of merchandise. Seattle is always a good area
for pro sports. They'll support it really well. I'm really

(01:57:35):
happy they can go with the Seattle Autonomous Zones going
with the Cracking. I think the logo is pretty rad, honestly,
but just the fact that this is what they landed on.
I have said before the thing that I would want
to see in sports if I was a pro sports
team is something like the Ghosts, because it just seems
like ghosts is it just sounds cool when it's not there, Like, yeah,

(01:58:00):
you have phantoms here and there, and that's not bad.
Specters would be pretty cool too, but I don't know
why there's not a ghost It would be a cool mascot.
It would be something that you would want to wear
that kind of a uniform. It would look good on
a hat, especially as a baseball team. But Cracking is
up there, folks. Cracking and Emily Kapitlan had a good

(01:58:23):
piece for ESPN dot com about how the name came
about and where it may have started and when they
were speaking about this team back in a memo on
the door that said released the cracking and it turns
out to be cracking. After names that they tried to
look through, it's becoming difficult to come up with names

(01:58:43):
because once Redskins goes because a bunch of white people said, hey,
you should be offended by this Native Americans. The problem
is once that happens, then all bets are off and
you can find the reason to make almost anything offensive.
I hope you can't find a reason to make cracking offensive,

(01:59:05):
because it never needs to change. If I am a
NHL fan or somebody in Seattle that loves sports and
super excited about this, I would be thrilled if I'm
then like this is this I'm trying to think? Is
this my favorite nickname? Now? My favorite mascot in all
of pro sports, and I'm probably missing some really good

(01:59:27):
ones and just overthinking this a little bit, but Cracking's
got to be up there, guys. L a Seattle cracking
just a total grand slam of the name, right. I
enjoyed it. I liked it. I know a lot of people,
you know, they poop poop on it, just because that's
the world we live in now, you know, the Twitter
trolls are out there. But I enjoyed it. I like
the color scheme of it. It's, you know, a step
away from just the generic white and blacks. You know.

(01:59:48):
They had the kind of like the the aqua teal
and the blue and a nod to like the Seattle
Metropolitans from way back when with the s and how
it's kind of shaped. So I think it's a win.
I'm not a huge fan of it that we really look,
we've only got a minute, so I really can't dive
into it. But there's still cracking in the Pacific, and
I like, at least I don't mind cool names, but

(02:00:09):
I asked they at least have some merit in. But
it's a mystical cracking, like it's not a real creature. Anyway,
it would work for a Northeastern Atlantic team. That's all
I'm gonna say. Like, I like some meaning to it. Also,
the font reminds me of a ride at Bush Guardiams, Williamsburg.
So I look at that and all I see is
a roller coaster. I'm sorry, but we'll have to talk

(02:00:30):
about it more next week because I can't even start now.
We've got like I wasn't expecting the history lesson that
because the cracking is not going to be found in
the Pacific that that's probably not a good name for Seattle.
I like that better than I'm sure the Twitter trolls.
I haven't seen any Twitter trolls. Soon as I saw
this name, I was just like that somebody took to

(02:00:50):
ani made it the Seattle Karen's and you know, put
a coffee cup on. That's funny, kind of kind of creative.
But yeah, I didn't didn't take long. I like see
at'll crack, and I think it's original and unique. I'm
glad they were able to find something like this good
on Seattle. They should support this team again. Glad it's
not the Autonomous Zone. See you next week.