These are some of the WORST interviews, not just in the history of the show, but in the history of time. Of course, they all wind up getting kicked OFF THE SHOW!
First, former NBA big man Olden Polynice reacts to Team USA almost losing to South Sudan and then gives a confusing take on Bronny James. Then, Paulie & Tony ask Antoine Walker about a confusing situation with the Timberwolves, and then discuss the problem of Knicks fans ruining Sixers games. Then, Cuttino Mobley opens up about his problems with Doc Rivers and then shuts down Paulie and Tony when they try to defend Ja Morant and his gun usage. Finally, Kenyon Martin gives an interview so bad that they wonder if he's an impostor.
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Timeline (note: times may be off slightly... blame our useless producer):
00:00 - Intro
02:06 - Olden Polynice on Team USA's near-loss, Bronny James
12:46 - Antoine Walker on T-Wolves weirdness, bad Knicks fans
26:05 - Cuttino Mobley on Doc Rivers stinking, Ja Morant problems
37:00 - Kenyon Martin on NBA violence, his son's "poor play"
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
All right around you. I'm into you, well not live
ful film.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's the number one rated Paully and Tony Fullsco show
Joy as always.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Pauli Fosco here with Tony Fosco with Donate.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
This is what we call a special bonus episode for
you out there. You know, with these NBA finals being
so historically crappy, you know there's a hole in the
market right now for a basketball content that people actually
want to watch, you know, that doesn't put them to sleep.
That's why we're bringing you a special show today. Right,
everyone knows the worst part of the show is of
(00:39):
course the producer. We all know that. But a close
second is a terrible horrible guests. Right, So that's why
we're going to go and bring you our worst NBA
guest interviews through the years, well the past couple of years,
because we didn't bother searching for that long.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Ye know that's true. Went two years back and said
that's it. But when we say worst, by the way,
of course we were perfect. Yeah, but they were suck. Yeah,
don't worry, Well we don't.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
We're gonna dunk on all these losers and you're gonna
get to enjoy it. Again, because we already know you'll
listen to watch, but go back and do it again,
you know.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Exactly, you know you have to listen and watch again.
I mean, you know people are gonna say shows like
this are just recycling old content.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
But is it recycling good you know for the planet?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Great point, Tony, And well, before we get into the
whole show and everything, you remember, you know you like
your subscribe your review on Apple Podcasts. You know all
that jazz, right, Tonty, they gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
When we say all that jazz, we don't mean the
Utah jazz because that would be even more boring NBA content.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, we don't mean the Utah jazz because that would
be more terrible content anyway. All right, all right, let's
get into the clips there, right, this first one, it's
from the summer of twenty twenty four. All right, so
this is when Team USA basketball somehow almost lost.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
To South Sudan.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, so we brought the former NBA big man Olden
Polonies on to talk about it, and well here's what
happened roll that Daylight World. Okay, Well, he's returning to
the show for a second time, despite the first appearance
being you know, I'll put this politely, a horrible train wreck,
(02:19):
but that's we're going to start over.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Glean, slate clean.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
He's one of the NBA's Yeah, yes, there you go, Olden.
He's one of the NBA's all time iconic big men
seven foot played for the Kings, Clippers, Pistons. Also one
of the very first international basketball stars. Now he's a
Fox Sports NBA analyst, just the perfect person to have
on the show right now. So let's go ahead and
(02:43):
bring him in, Olden, polonies, Welcome back, Welcome back, Golden.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I still don't know how I decided to do this again,
but thank you for having me back on.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
We may have gone a little time, you know, mainly
on you, but exactly.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
It's on me. Well, you know it's on me.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
You were rude, okay, you know you didn't see things,
were trying to didn't kind of seeing the right way.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
First of all, you should have known I wasn't going
to agree, especially with that Eagles jersey.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
On Oh who do you root for? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
The Giants?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Oh like we're supposed to know that. So what though
we didn't bring you on in a talk NFL Olympic basketball.
You know, maybe you shouldn't be producing sports. Talk to
stay as a guest. But okay, we're going to go
into basketball. Okay, Older, we can.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Talk about Annie, we can talk about curling if you
want to.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
We don't want we don't want to lose our audience.
Stay on topic, old, Yeah, okay, all right, now you.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Mentioned your my apologies.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Okay, right, you mentioned you're a Giants fan.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
We understand why you know because I said, here I
see her in your bio. It says you were born
in Haiti, but then you grew up in the Bronx.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Well, so tell us I grew up in Harlem.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Okay, okay, I went to school in the Bronx.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So tell us between Haiti and Harlem, which was worse?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Oh my god, uh, I'm gonna say Haiti was a
little bit worse than Harlem. Oh okay, I actually had
I actually had indoor plumbing and Harlem.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Oh I see. Okay, that is a big plus. That's
a big plus. We bring this up for a reason.
That's you know, you saw it old and just a
truly stunning outcome in men's basketball team USA almost losing
to South Sudan. Now when you look at this, break
it down do you think the South Sudan team was
so good because you know, they were literally the hungry
(04:43):
A team.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Oh my god, they were the hungry AT team.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
You know, they were the more determined team. They wanted
to win more, but unfortunately they didn't and that was
because of a bad had no call by the referees.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
But you know, Team USA wasn't great either, So you know,
do you think the problem for Team USA is that
all these soft modern athletes with their nutritionists and their
protein bars, maybe less nutrition would be the way to
go because then they could be hungrier to win to win.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, okay, I don't know about all that, but I
just feel that personally, I feel that there's not much
that these guys are playing for US. You know, the
other countries they are playing for team pride, country pride,
and for everything else. And I don't believe that our
athletes are playing for the USA. I believe they're playing
(05:43):
more for the endorsements and shoe deals and everything else.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Right, I'm the Chinese, and the Chinese they go old
and perfectly said. But you do know something about this,
because we look this up. It said on your Wikipedia
you did a hunger strike in nineteen ninety three to
protest something or other.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
But the point of the protest is beside the point.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
The stats show that you had your best statistical year
in the nineteen ninety three ninety four season. Do you
think that starving yourself like that led the better output
on the court? You know, you had that hunger, had
that hunger.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I can't Oh my god, Yes that's what it was.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
No, that's not it. Okay, Oh oh okay. I was getting.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Minutes, and you know I just played a really solid
season also, and then.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It's on the corner in the cafeteria. Where were you
getting the minutes on the court.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
I was getting the minutes.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I had a good sidekick and Bill Lambiert, So it
allowed me the freedom to do more. You know, I
didn't have to play center all the time. That's all
it was.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
So what you're saying is that you were hungry for
this new opportunity.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Yeah, but not for food. I was just hungry for rebounds.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Do you think that your career went downhill though after
that when you started eating?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I can't with you guys asking a serious question.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yes, hey man, let me tell y'all something, man, this
show is very interesting.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
All right, number one, I eat before games. I'm well fed.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
My determination was the reason I got my rebounds and
scored the points.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
That had nothing to do with anything else.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Okay, when I went under hunger strike, I did that
to protest the US policies. But I was you know,
I went ten days without eating and it was rough,
you know. And still try to play back except on.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
The scoreboard, great score, great in the status.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Ht me alone about this eating thing I've eaten?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Okay, all right, you know, but older us, there's food.
Leads to another question, because you're such a great role
model for us. Okay, yeah, you know you have a
sudden You have a son who plays ball at Lost
Beach State, right Chase Polonies? Now, first question, why didn't
you name your son youngin Polonies? Yeah? It seems like
(08:23):
a total missed opportunity and young.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Yeah that's horrible.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Oh, because I would never do that to my child.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Oh well, who did it to? Who called you olden?
I mean, what were they? What was going on there?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
A great name? Yeah? Okay, so y'all need to stop.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
See now now you mean disrespectful to my parents name.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
It was a great name.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
If you did your research, you would know where my
name came from. Okay, there's a slight change in my name,
kind of like a chem Olajuan used to be a
k E E M. And then he went back to
the original with the age. I was the same way.
I just never went back to the original. H. So
you are I was holding? I was named after William Holding,
(09:12):
the actor that was my grandfather's favorite act.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Wow from The Godfather.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Hit that breaking news button.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Wow here first, William William Holden was never in The Godfather.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Wait a minute, William Holding the drunk actor. We're sending
this to the poets. Hey, alright, you.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Do not pronounce his so in my ear, I'm hearing
all den all den, Oh, hearing the age.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
So I just started writing my name with an oh.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
See you learned something today. Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Well why did you name your son Chase? You're a
fan of the bank or something.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I actually do banking, Chase.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
See there you go.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But you you you've been a defender of Bronnie James, right,
and you know you tweeted something the other day.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
You tweeted, Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
It baffles me that people have issues with Bronnie James.
The young man has a dream to play in the
NBA like his father. He worked his ass off to
become a legit prospect. Yet folks have an issue. Grow
up people, now, I don't think you understand Olden. Yeah. See,
you said he plays like he wants to play in
the NBA like his father.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
He doesn't play like his father. He plays much worse
than his father.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yeah, he stinks father.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Than his father. He's like his father, his father.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
He's not good enough to be lebron lebron.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
But you you clearly said he wants to play like
his father said it.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Those are your words.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Oh my god, I don't mean exactly like his father.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And I was taking it back. I think you might
be lightheaded. You might need to eat something. Look, listen,
let me let's just take our advice. Old And you
work for farther sports as an analyst. If you want
people to trust your judgment, you need to do better.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Here.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Look at the camera and say, Bronnie give it up.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Retire now, come on the camera, tell Bronnie to retire.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Oh okay, all right, okay, you know what, go to the.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Regrigerator right now, because you know what's getting Olden, you
won the shows, you shot the show We're not playing
nice anymore. You're volume holding this show down? You should
you holding this show down?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Show? Is he off the line? Jay, hang up the phone.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You know you should have never had him on the
show again. Just a terrible attitude, terrible. He seemed really angry.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, he did.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Well.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That was terrible, horrible.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Although it does sound, Tony like our first interview with
him was even worse. But do you even remember what
happened in that interview?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You know, it must be so bad that I blocked
it out because I have no recollection wants to do
no recollection anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
We'll be right back after this commercial. All right, we're
back with our worst of NBA guests. All right, this
next clip, this is from twenty twenty four. All so,
this time in May, during the playoffs, we had on
former Celtic and Twan Walker. Just a terrible interview. You're
about to watch it now. You have to remember this
(12:21):
interview took place in a far off time when the
Sixers were actually good.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I don't even remember that, Tony, I.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Know, you know, to be honest, I'm having trouble remembering
that time period.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Also.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, it's very hard to remember, so just you keep
that in mind when you're listening as we walk back
down on memory lane. Here May twenty twenty four and
Twin Walker roll.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
That clip satur light in the world. Okay, we'll admit.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
You know, this guy put together an okay basketball resume,
you know, decent. Okay, he won the tourney while at Kentucky.
He was a champion with the Miami Heaton two thousand
and six and not with Lebron. So that makes it
slightly easier to digest three time All Star known as
a Celtics great, even though those two words really don't
belong together. You can't be great and be on the Celtics,
(13:13):
you know. Anyway, y'all, let's just get him in antwine. Walker,
welcome back to the show.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Thanks for having me. Guys, you got to you gotta
add too. Though.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
I'm one of the one of the few players. I
don't know the number. I used to keep up with
the number. There's one one in college and pro now,
so I speak, I speak as you know.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I'm like a little.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Different than everybody else. It's only about fifty or sixty
of us. They won a championship in cars and pro.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Have that conversation with your publicists first before you come
on the show.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Exactly, just know I'm on that list list, all right,
He's right good, we've established that.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
And also we know you, We know your pr people
are falling down on the job.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
We just stablished that though. Exactly. All right, Look, we're
going to get.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Into this six is nixt series soon. But you know
something up top, we got to adre us with you.
You know, the other day you made headlines when you
came out and said the best Celtic scorer of all
time was not Larry Bird but Paul Pierce. So that
leads to my next question here. Has anyone from Boston
tried to murder you yet?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
No, not yet.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
But I mean I'm talking about pure a store that
can go inside, outside, get to the foul line. We
know Birds there, but Paul was a little bit and
a little bit more athletic to Paul.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Not that much though, that's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Just so we're clear, when you were talking about scoring,
were you talking about on the court or off the court?
Because you know, I've seen Instagram videos with Paul Pierce
and he's definitely a terrific scorer.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, it does very well.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Yeah, court off, I'm talking on I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Right. Don't play it safe there. He's a media person.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
He's playing.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You know, you probably don't want to remember, but you
did play for the Timberwolves at one point in your career.
How confusing is it to you that the Timberwolves are
now actually a good team. Does your brain have as
much trouble processing that as everybody else's?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Does I do?
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Because I knew that it wasn't a big free agent market,
so I knew it was gonna be hard for them
to like lure superstar there. But they've drafted well, we
got to get them. Credit Carl, Anthony Towles, Anthony Edwitds.
These guys have turned out to be all stars and
superstars in our league. They made a couple of great moves.
I mean to acquire Rudy Gobert.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
About those great moves. Do you see what Mike Conley
did the other night running into his coach accidentally and
knocking him out?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You saw that?
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Yeah? I did see that. Man.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
When you saw that, I was a terrialic.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
The thing back when you are on the Timberwolves, your
coach was Randy witz More, one of the worst coaches
in NBA history Looking back now, don't you think it
would have been smarter you to maybe, you know, accidentally
just run in through him and knock him out of commission,
you know, getting flips on his back of something.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
No, we were terrible, man, My Minnesota days were bad.
I was on a bad team, bad situation. They won
a youth movement. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna throw
Randy women under the bus like that.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
But the team was bad. The organization was going in
a totally different direction. When I was there.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Well, we didn't say throw him under a bus. Literally,
we just meant injured, you know, we met like, hurt
his knee.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
No, I wouldn't hurt his knee. Randy was cool to me.
He was cool. We just were We just were not
very good.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Okayna's going on there that made you not good?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
It was just kind of just being on the table.
Wolves Was that the problem? Hold?
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Well, I think one it was too cold and I'm
from Chicago and that that's a different type of cold
up there. But just obviously the youth movement. They were
in the youth movement. When I got there, I was
in the back end of my career. I wasn't trying
to be in a youth movement situation. I just come
and win the NBA Championship and playing for the Miami Heat.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I was not trying to go to a team that
was in a rebuild situation. So it was tough just
kind of going to.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
That after leaving the Miami Heat and playing for championships.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
So that's what made it hard for me.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, that that to be tough, going from a championship
team to the Timberwolves.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yea, what is that like?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Is that like when you're you know, like in a
jacuzzi and then you get out and it's like super cold,
and you know, your thing shrivels up? Is that how
that type of how that feels?
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Yes? Like that? Okay, look, I would never look at
it that way, but it's something like.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Now you get yeah, all right, the guy wants to
know his thing will never shrivel up like that?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Get okay?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Week anyway, Look, you never played for the Lakers, but
you know, there's been a lot of talk about there
about this Bronnie James. Bronnie James. You know, everybody thinks
he's he wants to play with his dad. But oss
is dellas that now that Lebron is flamed out of
the playoffs in the first round, you know also us
to say Bronnie James is now having second thoughts about
(18:03):
playing with his dad. In fact, we hear he's openly
saying that he wishes Jamal Murray was his father, even
calling himself Jamali among friends. What is your reaction to
this just stunning development.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
I think that's all false. I don't think that's none
of that's true. I think the only thing that's true
is I think Jamal Murray has had a dominated the
Lakers over the last couple of years. That and that's
that's actual facts. The Devin Nuggets have dominated the Lakers.
But I think leb Brownie would love to play with
his dad. I think it'd be it would be a
great thing. I don't know if it's going to happen.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
I don't know what sports, I don't know what it
does for sports. Just as a father from Lebron is
probably an unbelievable feeling to be in the same NBA
locker room playing alongside your son.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Such a shame. That's not gonna happen anymore.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
I don't think it's gonna hap. I don't think it's
gonna happed to.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Say the same thing, so good, the same There we go,
There we go, we to the Timberwolves.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Well, no, I think I think Brianni needs to go
back to college. I think if Lebron, I think, if
Lebron wants to do right by his son and get
him ready and prepare to play at the NBA level,
and I think he should go back to college and
enjoy college. I don't think he's ready for the NBA.
He didn't start last year. He played, you know, well,
how mean minutes he played a game ten fifteen?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Nobody knows. And I don't know. I never saw him.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
I don't think he's ready yet. I think, you know,
he needs another year of college. I think he should
have an opportunity to enjoy college. It shouldn't be all
predicated on him making it to the NBA and enjoy college.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Planning playing the tournament, planning sixteen.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I mean, exactly, go to a team with a better
chance of winning a title like Florida Atlantic, you.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Know, exactly university. Yeah there, but you.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Know what we could we could think about it felt
we could really think about. You know, that was kind
of I don't know if Lebron really that was the
decision because he was in California. But is that the
school he really wanted to go to. He was getting
recruited by everybody, right, you know what I mean? So
that maybe picked the wrong school, gets to the right
situation so you can enjoy college.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And it's so smart too.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
If he plays like another three four years, maybe he
goes to grad school, plays an extra year. By then
Lebron will have retired and he won't have to play
with them.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
There you go, Yeah, you're not lying.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Lebron is like the energizing money. It seems like he
never gonna retire. I just was reading this more than
watch his sports. I don't know if you guys saw that.
They're talking about maybe he gets another two three year deal.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
What is that? Just?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Is that just with what depends? Like what is he
gonna he can?
Speaker 6 (20:45):
No, he can he can opt out this summer and
become a free agent. So they were saying the Lakers
may sign him to another two three year deal after this.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
That would be great, sour Wow, wow, this is breaking news,
breaking new break walker, breaking news, on his shoes. Bro,
more terrible decisions by the Lake, by the Lakers there,
you go, exactly, all right.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
But I know that's I mean, he has that, he
has that option though he has like take fifty one
fifty two million that he makes next year, but he
can opt out and sign a new deal this summer.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Well, I heard that Brownie wants to opt out of
the family. So you know we're gonna have double moves here.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Exactly, Bro, I got that.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
I thought you want to.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well, you know your source is different than ours, you know,
beg to different. All right, let's move to the Sixers here.
How impressed are you with this Sixers team? Antoine? You know,
they go into Game five in New York truly hostile territory,
the city descending into chaos, protests at that war zone
known as Columbia University. Wasn't this the most bravest under
(21:52):
pressure performance you've ever seen?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Ye?
Speaker 5 (21:56):
I don't know about that, but I thought it was.
I thought it was a great performance.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
And and we've we've all and you guys have done it.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
I'm sure.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
Uh. In the past, we've all criticized and b and
and his injuries and how he played the way guy's
gutting it out and giving this chance the team to win.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
We got to give him a lot of credit. So
I'm not gonna don't. I don't want to. I don't
want to make might of that.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
The fact that how he's playing, he's basically on one
leg and he's out there trying to will his way
through this series.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Absolutely, And the other thing he has is at home games,
he has these nick fans showing.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
So let me let me ask you guys about that though.
Since you bring that up, though, how do you feel
about that? How do how do they get those tickets?
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Like that?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
We got a great we got a solution for you
and Twine. Listen to what Tony came up with here.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
So now we avoid this in the future, we are
introducing fan I D legislation. You know, if you need
a passport to enter our country, then shouldn't you need
a passport to enter a game? Make sure you're a
fan of the team, you know, we just simply have
the government check fans home addresses, social security numbers and
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make them pass a written test, and that way we
can stop illegal fans from entering our games.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
I don't like that, how about what you guys, stop
publicly going after the fans and telling them to come
out and support the Sixers. Just like you got your
Eagles jersey on, you got your Eagles background, support the
Sixers the same way.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Once you gotta start, we do. But if the Knicks
buy the tickets.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Migrating into games and stealing yours, what can we do?
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure these tickets go on sale at
the same time.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
What's with y'all fans? Y'all wait around, y'all.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You want to blame the fans.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You want to blame the fans New York Will Yorkers
who come down. Yeah, first you know they're squatting our stands.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Then they're squatting in their universities. They're squatting all over
the squat and that's what they do.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
That back right now, you apologize to the Sixers fans
is not apologize to the best fan base in sports.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
I love the Sixers fans.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
I love the passion, the passion you got for your
teams and how how you make it really difficult at
times to play in Filly.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
But the problem with you, guys, it's embarrassing a little
bit that you guys are Let the New York fans
come in and get these tickets.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
You know what's embarrassing?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
You know it's embarrassing you coming in here, you because
you talk like that.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And walker, well you're going to be walking right now.
You're walking.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
You ain't.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
The short row, so.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Shad like you guys can have the constructive criticism.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
What don't you know a phone.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
On this guy?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Is he off the line? Jay, hang up the phone.
You know one thing we will never allow on the show.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
We will never mock the proud fans of Philly on
this show.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Never. That's something we would never do. Ever.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Well, that was all very rude of him, all around rude.
That's why he hasn't been back on the show since.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
They're terrible, terrible mistake by him. All right, Don will
be right back after this break. All right, we're back
with our worst of now our next terrible guest.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
There.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
We're gonna go back two years now, Tony. This is
from May twenty twenty three. We brought on NBA legend
Katino Mobley to talk about Jah Morant in that whole
gun situation which you amb but this was also when
the Sixers fired Doc Rivers. Well, now you know, Doc
Rivers is killing another team right in front of our eyes,
(25:43):
the Bucks. So that makes this all very relevant. You know,
it feels like totally fresh content. It's gonna feel fresh
when you.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Watch, exactly, and just a great example of how recycling
is good for content and the planet exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
This is just a great reuse of content here.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
So let's go back May twenty twenty three, Katino Mobiley
roll that tape Saturnlight. All Right, this guy native son,
born right here in Philadelphia. Twelve year NBA that we
couldn't be more proud of. Of course six as we would
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have been proud of.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
But we would have been much prouder plat for.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
The Rockets, the Magic, the Kings, the Clippers. Now he's
on Fox Sports as an analyst and he's also a
motivational speaker.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Wows a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Anyway, let's bring him on Katino mobiley. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
Guys, how you doing man hey.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
And you know, on the subject of how we do it,
you know, we know you had a bit of a
hot condition. You know, that's what caused you to retire
from the league. You know, we have a reputation as
you know, we can be tough on our guests, very
tough on our guests, but within easy today he's get
scared of coming on the show. Some don't show up,
like sometimes they don't even show up. So still we're
going to go easy on you. We don't want to
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get you riled up all. We want the heart rate
to stay low, blood.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Pressure down, We need that.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Okay, yeah, exactly, Okay, So here's why we brought you
on today. Obviously, you played for the Orlando Magic in
two thousand and four, the year after Doc Rivers got fired.
Of course, you know in the last season that Doc
was there, that team, they finished an embarrassing twenty one
and sixty one but horrible. You came in, and so
did their new coach, Johnny Davis. They improved to a
(27:28):
highly respectable thirty six and forty six, which is good
for the Magic.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, when you showed up, tell us Katino, how relieved
in the building were people that you know, Doc was
finally out of there.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
I don't know if they were relieved, man, you know
what I'm saying, Like, I, uh, twenty one games the
year prior and then I actually didn't want to leave
Orlando but I got into a little you know, bumping
the heads with Johnny Davis. When I left, we were
topping in Orlando. We were toping the East, one of
the top teams. And when I left, his guys didn't
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make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Thought yourself, which is good. I like that, good ego.
What was your beef with Johnny Day?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
What happened? Was he worse than Doc Rivers? What was his?
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Was he worse than Doc Rivers? This guy? No, Doc
wasn't bad. Listen, Docs never coached me. I think Doc's
a good dude.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
But you know, as far as Johnny, you know, he,
Steve Reston and I were at that time, you know,
you know, back court of excitement for the NBA and
you know the team that we had. I you know,
I didn't want to share time with the rookies. And
you know the reason there was success on our team
(28:42):
at the time I was there. You know, Grant Hill
was coming off you know, injury and he's feeling better.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Dwhite Howard was a rookie. You know, he was coming
off the bench. We had a nice little team.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
You know, he thought that the scheme and everything was his,
and you know, come to find out, the team broke up.
You know, it's kind of like it just wasn't what
it was when I left.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
So what you're saying there is that Johnny Davis is
equally a shitty coach?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Is Doc just as much as Doc? Just follow Yeah,
that's what it sounded like.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Listen. All I'm saying is we didn't go to the
playoffs the year. They didn't go to the playoffs the year.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
But you know, you know, just I got a question
for you since you played the game.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
You know, Doc Rivers, he's had like a twenty year
case of laryngitis.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
You can't understand the word this guy said.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I can't tell me as a player, how important is
it to actually be able to hear and understand your
coach when he's talking.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Oh, there you go, impersonation impression.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, listen, I screamed a lot when I was younger.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
You know, I think Doc's are I think Doc, you know,
he's a very He's not a stand Ben Gundy. He's
not a Jeff Ben Gundhy, and he's very talented as coach.
But I just think the personality of Doc, he's not pushy.
So in not being pushy. People practice bad habits throughout
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seasons and because you're not pushy, and you know, guys
just do what they want to do, and when it
starts to show in the playoffs and that's the that's
the bad thing about situation with that.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
One of the rumors that we're hearing with the head
coaching vacancy for the Sixes is former Raptors coach Nick Nurse.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
But don't you.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Think that would be a downgrade going from doc to
a nurse?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:36):
I mean they both won a championship. Doctor don't have
more championships than that.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, But you know, as a man who suffers from
a hot condition, I just want to know, you.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Know, who would rather to see.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
You know, if they say the doctors out, here's a nurse,
wouldn't that bother you?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:49):
Because nurses do more work.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Respect for nurses, yeah yeah, but you know you do
more work. This is a man who you have the
experience here. Yeah, you don't spit ole record, Yeah, you don't.
Just back to the Sixers. Yeah, you know, people are
saying the Sixers season was a failure, but when you
look at it, Joel Embiid won a title.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, he won the titling title. A scoring title, it
is harder to win.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
You got to beat the six hundred people in the league,
even people on your own team.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Wouldn't you agree?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Scoring title more impressive than the NBA title?
Speaker 7 (31:23):
Get out of here? Are you serious? Are you guys
on dope for dog food? Yes?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
You mind?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Excuse scoring title? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Scoring title on?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah? Don't want you to get two upset?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah, we could tell your blood pressure is like one
thirty six over eighty two.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Hold, bring it back?
Speaker 7 (31:40):
Which one is dopeer dog food? Which one is it?
I'm trying to.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Find you kidding me? He had to beat out five
hundred players in the league. He doubled your score. Yeah,
Jorge Joe LMB. What was your career high in the
season sixteen? He had thirty two?
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Yeah, No, my career high the season is twenty two.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Was that heart beats? Heart beats? Twenty two heart beats
per season? Yeah, that's what we're talking here.
Speaker 8 (32:08):
Okay, listen, I'm gonna tell you this, what how did
that work out?
Speaker 7 (32:12):
But you being the scoring leader doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
We got a title already.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
What do you mean it doesn't matter, doesn't matter matter
you brought it up. This is a source subject for
you and can tell why because you never played for
the Sixers, right exactly?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
You wish you wish you played for the six I.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Do not know.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I do not Yeah, you don't. He's getting a little agitated.
We probably don't want to take it down enough. Okay, Okay,
we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
We're gonna move to a better topic, a more a
more positive note for you. We want to talk about
how you almost got traded to the Knicks, right, and
then this was in the late two thousands, and then
they brought you in for a medical evaluation and they
found you had this heart condition. How glad at that
point were you for that heart condition? Do you go
back and think of the years of your life you
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would have lost had you had to play.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
For such a terrible organization.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
At the time. Dan h d'An TONI was the coach.
Speaker 8 (33:09):
I wouldn't mind playing with D'Antoni, but I wasn't really
a fan of uh the guy Dolan, the owner.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
I wasn't a fan of him.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
So I think, uh, you know, I for me, truthfully,
I gotta be I should have been careful of how
I wish.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
That one truth?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
What should you have done.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
I love New York. I love New York. I spent
my summers in New York. I love D'Antoni, but I
did not like the owner.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
He's a terrible, terrible right, all right, I see we're good.
I think we're a little calmer.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Now, this is okay, all right, I'm not afraid I
was gonna call EMT there for a second. Okay, we
were close. But now you know, we saw you on
this other show, Katino. You were talking about how Jah
morant Is is not being a good role model for
flashing a gun. But hold on here, I think you're
missing the point. Yeah, he lives in Memphis. The team
is called the Grizzlies. If there are grizzly beards running
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around there, well, wouldn't it be smart to carry a gun?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
The Grizzlies are everywhere.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
No, it's not smart to listen licensed in a hoster
in the box.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
All good.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
I'm not saying you know you shouldn't carry your gun.
But at the end of the day, did you're you know,
your big influence in your role model?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
What about about what about John Wayne?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
You know, is he not a role model to you?
Or Charles Bronson.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
Charles Bronson, John Wayne that wish, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
You wanted to be him?
Speaker 1 (34:42):
You want to watch death Wish twelve. I said, oh
my god, what a guy here. He doesn't take nothing.
So I want to be after world's number one sports catch.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
And look at you and look at you now and amazing.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I'm sensing a little look at you.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Now, You're not You're not fighting to fly right now?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 7 (35:04):
Fly?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Are you kidding me? We take on the whole sports
world over here? You are? You? Are you get in
the next.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Time I see you, I'm gonna be right in my
fist right where the sun don't shine, because guess what,
I guess what you're getting katinoed from the show.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
You're right of here. You're done, You're off the show.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
By see you put your We're hanging up the mobile
phone and you get eaten by a grizzly bear.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Don't put your bag in the back of something.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Get out of here? Is he off the line? Jay?
Hang up the phone.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I wish he was more like I guess last week
and you know, just didn't show up at all. Yeah exactly,
that would have been way better. Well that was a
terrible interview, but horrible. At least he survived. I guess
that's good.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, that's true. You know, we didn't kill them, so
that's good. That's good. That's good by us, you know,
because we're professionals. That's what we're exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
All right, And on that note, we're going to take
a quick break. We'll be right back after this. All right,
we're back there, wrap up our worst of NBA guests. Okay,
we're still in twenty twenty three. We're going back now
to April twenty twenty three. Okay, we had on NBA
legend Kenyan Martin to discuss if the NBA was getting
soft because they, you know, they toss out players for fighting.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah, exactly. I mean we already know the answer to that.
Of course, the NBA is terrible.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
But by the way, when you're listen to this, okay,
there's a whole section here where we discuss how much
the Houston Rockets suck. Okay, now, remember, yes, they still
kind of suck, but they actually sucked way much more
and more back.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
So if some of this content.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
You know, it feels kind of dated to you, well
that's because your brain is slow in the processing right, Yny.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
And exactly you're the problem and not the innovation.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Exactly, you're the problem. All right, So here we are.
It's April twenty twenty three. In this clip, Kenyan Martin
rolling fus.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Goal satellite woke.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
All right, This man number one overall pick of course
in two thousand played for the Nuggets, the Knicks, the Nets,
where he went to two NBA finals. But of course,
his biggest accomplishment we all know is his reputation for
being one of the toughest and fiercest players in NBA history.
Listen to this one hundred and five career technical foulsands wow.
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And more importantly and impressively, one of just three NBA
players since nineteen ninety nine the rack up six or
more flagrant thousand one season. Just terrific. There, So let's
bring him on the show. Kenyan Martin, the true legend.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 9 (37:42):
Those are stands I did not know, so appreciate you
sharing it.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
That's all we do. We do on this the type
of thing we do. You know, Kenyan, we don't need
to tell you this. These NBA playoffs they're a joke,
you know, the refs throwing out players left and right
for bareley doing anything. You know, they're trying to make
the game about, you know, shooting and dribbling and rebounding.
That's not what's about, you know, it's about trimbling on
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the players in the name of competition, you know, intimidating them,
threatening to permanently injured them, you know, which we were
so good at. You know, don't you think that we've
lost the soul of the game.
Speaker 9 (38:18):
Yeah, I would agree we've lost the soul of the game.
Yeah I would. I would definitely agree with you in
that aspect. But but but permanently injured in someone probably
I wouldn't take it that far.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Well, you know, maybe a few nights in the hospital, right, yeah,
maybe not perm.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
You gotta walk the line. You gotta walk the line.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
You know, Daron like knockout Karl alone once, didn't you
see it, didn't you put the elbow to the head.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (38:44):
Yeah, But no knights in the hospital though, what I'm
saying he went home to his wife and kids.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Well, that's disappointing that but you tried, You tried, you
know what, exactly, when you look at the way basketball
is right now, that it's so soft, does that make
you want to cry because they're kind of crapping on
the legacy of violence that you and so many of
your your friends and yeah, you helped create there.
Speaker 9 (39:05):
Yeah, it had to this change because I think it
would be it would be out of.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Control right now.
Speaker 9 (39:13):
It was necessary. It was a necessary change, man, it was.
It was one of those things where if they didn't,
people were gonna stop tuning in and it was effecting
their bottom line. So changes, changes must be made.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
It wasn't a moment where you thought, all right, maybe
this has gone a little too far, maybe I might
have just broken a few laws.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Was there a moment like that for you?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (39:39):
Now, mine was a conversation. Oh, mine was a conversation
with the late great David Stern. I'm saying mine was
a conversation, not a moment.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
What happened in that conversation?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
You know, did David Stern like lock you in a
room and punch you, like say hey, you know I'm
not for.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
This, knock it out, slap you across the face. What happened?
Speaker 5 (39:59):
Would it's absolutely?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Oh wow, he was tough, David Stern. What do you say, Oh.
Speaker 9 (40:04):
Yeah, no, no, you to cut it out like his
exa words, do you if you want to be a
part of this league, I suggest you cut it out.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
You know I used to have respect for Stern. I'm
losing respect for David Stern here, you know.
Speaker 9 (40:18):
So therefore I walked the line like I walked the
line without without you know what I'm saying. I didn't
after that point there was no more in game fights
or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
So I said, yeah, like I understood, I got to
miss it out.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
And Okay, you know, you seem I gotta say, you
seem kind of like, uh, what's the word?
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Kind of zen?
Speaker 5 (40:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Very, And I gotta be honest, it's a it's a
it's a little annoying, like you know, you're you're what
happened to the Kenyan Martin?
Speaker 1 (40:49):
You know who was you know throwing around?
Speaker 5 (40:51):
Yea?
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Carl Malone, you know making David.
Speaker 9 (40:55):
Yeah, he's done.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Deep deep down there.
Speaker 9 (41:01):
Man, I've had I've had eight years to suppress that guy,
you know, have I retired in twenty fifteen, so I've
had eight years to suppress that that guy.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
And not because at home.
Speaker 9 (41:14):
I'm not hanging off the chandelier or I'm not threatening
the dog. And you know I'm cool, man, I'm not.
But like I said, I react the situation. You look
at it the only situation, Well.
Speaker 7 (41:24):
Let me let me live.
Speaker 9 (41:26):
The karmelone situation I initiate. But it was a retaliation
for some shit. Had nothing to do with me.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Right, you were getting them back for the knock and
Isaiah Thomas to the first It had.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Nothing to do with Kenyan Martin whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
But everything else is Thomas, thank you for that, you know,
for Bloody and Karl alone, and send you a gift
basket of something.
Speaker 9 (41:49):
Public actually did recently publicly on on the same podcast
that I told his story on. So yeah, no, but no,
I just wann't them situations, man, I was. I was
wired different when I played, and to the effect of
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my respect went a lot longer and further than me
getting kicked out of the game or me fighting in
the situation. You know what I'm saying, I was all
I'm all about respect.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
I think you're missing the whole point there. I think
Isaiah Thomas was trying to tell you something. He was saying,
thank you for not respecting other people? How zen are you? Like,
let me ask you something. Let's give you hypothetical. You know,
now goes to McDonald's. They forget to put his fries
in the back. Do you like you okay? Or do
you through the drive through?
Speaker 9 (42:45):
Might climb through the window, might climb through the window
because they because they from my son, and my son
didn't get his fries.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Ye But I'm for family, yea, but.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Not really deal it with my food.
Speaker 9 (43:01):
So actually I'm going to be polite.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
All right.
Speaker 9 (43:05):
They've been with my food, so now we're not gonna
I don't want the fry, I don't want the basket
of fries just fell on the floor and you scooped
to the side like we don't want those.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
So good point.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Good point. It did bring up your son. Let's talk
about your son quickly.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I don't want to sally the mood here, but obviously
it's a it's a tough subject for you and your family.
You know, I'm very sorry, we're all sorry about what's
happened with your son, Kenyan Martin Jr. You know, a
couple of years ago, very sadly of all the teams
got drafted to the Kings terrible enough, heart breaking. Even
more sadly, he gets traded to the Houston Rockets, you know,
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the most pathetic organization.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
And all of basketball.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
How are you helping your son through this tragic and
hopeless time for him?
Speaker 9 (43:50):
Hey, listen, man, it was a it was a blessing,
and it was a blessing in disguise get drafted by
the Kings and day and going to Houston. No, man,
but just it's an unfortunate situation. But it's it's like
I said, it's a blessing for him to be living
out a dream and making a name for himself.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Man, And just a second, but you want to say
a bunch of.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
Always like that? You know, ken.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
You example the problem with your situation.
Speaker 9 (44:25):
Every situation ain't like that, man.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
I know this is a sole subject. But you look
at your son's stats. Of course, I'm talking about his
number of flagrant fouls. He only he only has one
flagrant foul and his entire three year Korea, Kenyon.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Yeah, that's your son.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
You know, as a father, do you tell him how
disappointed you are in him?
Speaker 1 (44:51):
He's shaming the family. Now, how disappointed are you?
Speaker 7 (44:55):
There's one right, It's only one right? Yeah, and that
was some bs.
Speaker 9 (45:01):
So listen, hey, he's failing me. Tremendously. Man, Listen, I can't.
I don't know where to be getting to start.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
Man, like you go.
Speaker 9 (45:08):
He's not holding up the end of that I'm saying
of the last name. So I definitely need to have
a talk with him.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
Oh here's what I.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Want to look at the camera, Kenyan Junior, right now,
say Kenyan, I'm so disappointed in how weak you are.
I want you to step up and start bashing guys
in the head and play the game as.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
It's meant to be played. Make me some permanent injuries.
Speaker 9 (45:35):
Yeah, see, I thought I thought we gotta pass the
permanent injury part of this coming.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Oh you want to be permanently injured? Yea, guess what?
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Come back to a little angry and next time because
you yes, you're permanently off.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
The show business Business show. Bring back the old Kenyan
Martin and come back. He's welcome.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
You need a little less anger management this show.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
How dare you? How dare you? How dare you?
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Don't you're on the time machine and come back when
you're twenty Yeah, who wants to do some Bye?
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Is he off the line? Jay?
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Hang up the phone, Tony, I'm not one hundred percent
sure that was actually Kenyan Martin did not seem.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Like I'm not sure either. I don't know what who
that was.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
You know, that just summarized the problem with guests on
this show. We try to give advice and they don't listen.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Tonty exactly.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
You know, just like we give advice to everybody out there,
rate review the show, share.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
It with all your friends.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
So you as the guest, and go do what we said.
So do what we tell you to do. You know, Tony,
I just realized, you know, those were terrible guests, But
you know what was great about the show?
Speaker 1 (46:57):
No producer correction. I mean, what do you what are you.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Going to correct? Silent exily, nothing, nothing. She just use
a clip of just him sitting there quietly. Every eight
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your dial. Ora and Tony, you know, we didn't have
to do much, but you did a great job as always,
so did you.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Pollie another fallless
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Show, they go see your people later this week, sometime
who knows, Yeah, see your
All right around you. I'm into you, well not live
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's the number one rated Paully and Tony Fullsco show
Joy as always.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Pauli Fosco here with Tony Fosco with Donate.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
This is what we call a special bonus episode for
you out there. You know, with these NBA finals being
so historically crappy, you know there's a hole in the
market right now for a basketball content that people actually
want to watch, you know, that doesn't put them to sleep.
That's why we're bringing you a special show today. Right,
everyone knows the worst part of the show is of
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course the producer. We all know that. But a close
second is a terrible horrible guests. Right, So that's why
we're going to go and bring you our worst NBA
guest interviews through the years, well the past couple of years,
because we didn't bother searching for that long.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Ye know that's true. Went two years back and said
that's it. But when we say worst, by the way,
of course we were perfect. Yeah, but they were suck. Yeah,
don't worry, Well we don't.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
We're gonna dunk on all these losers and you're gonna
get to enjoy it. Again, because we already know you'll
listen to watch, but go back and do it again,
you know.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Exactly, you know you have to listen and watch again.
I mean, you know people are gonna say shows like
this are just recycling old content.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
But is it recycling good you know for the planet?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Great point, Tony, And well, before we get into the
whole show and everything, you remember, you know you like
your subscribe your review on Apple Podcasts. You know all
that jazz, right, Tonty, they gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
When we say all that jazz, we don't mean the
Utah jazz because that would be even more boring NBA content.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, we don't mean the Utah jazz because that would
be more terrible content anyway. All right, all right, let's
get into the clips there, right, this first one, it's
from the summer of twenty twenty four. All right, so
this is when Team USA basketball somehow almost lost.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
To South Sudan.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, so we brought the former NBA big man Olden
Polonies on to talk about it, and well here's what
happened roll that Daylight World. Okay, Well, he's returning to
the show for a second time, despite the first appearance
being you know, I'll put this politely, a horrible train wreck,
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but that's we're going to start over.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Glean, slate clean.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
He's one of the NBA's Yeah, yes, there you go, Olden.
He's one of the NBA's all time iconic big men
seven foot played for the Kings, Clippers, Pistons. Also one
of the very first international basketball stars. Now he's a
Fox Sports NBA analyst, just the perfect person to have
on the show right now. So let's go ahead and
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bring him in, Olden, polonies, Welcome back, Welcome back, Golden.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I still don't know how I decided to do this again,
but thank you for having me back on.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
We may have gone a little time, you know, mainly
on you, but exactly.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
It's on me. Well, you know it's on me.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
You were rude, okay, you know you didn't see things,
were trying to didn't kind of seeing the right way.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
First of all, you should have known I wasn't going
to agree, especially with that Eagles jersey.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
On Oh who do you root for? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
The Giants?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Oh like we're supposed to know that. So what though
we didn't bring you on in a talk NFL Olympic basketball.
You know, maybe you shouldn't be producing sports. Talk to
stay as a guest. But okay, we're going to go
into basketball. Okay, Older, we can.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Talk about Annie, we can talk about curling if you
want to.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
We don't want we don't want to lose our audience.
Stay on topic, old, Yeah, okay, all right, now you.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Mentioned your my apologies.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Okay, right, you mentioned you're a Giants fan.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
We understand why you know because I said, here I
see her in your bio. It says you were born
in Haiti, but then you grew up in the Bronx.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Well, so tell us I grew up in Harlem.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Okay, okay, I went to school in the Bronx.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So tell us between Haiti and Harlem, which was worse?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Oh my god, uh, I'm gonna say Haiti was a
little bit worse than Harlem. Oh okay, I actually had
I actually had indoor plumbing and Harlem.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Oh I see. Okay, that is a big plus. That's
a big plus. We bring this up for a reason.
That's you know, you saw it old and just a
truly stunning outcome in men's basketball team USA almost losing
to South Sudan. Now when you look at this, break
it down do you think the South Sudan team was
so good because you know, they were literally the hungry
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A team.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Oh my god, they were the hungry AT team.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
You know, they were the more determined team. They wanted
to win more, but unfortunately they didn't and that was
because of a bad had no call by the referees.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
But you know, Team USA wasn't great either, So you know,
do you think the problem for Team USA is that
all these soft modern athletes with their nutritionists and their
protein bars, maybe less nutrition would be the way to
go because then they could be hungrier to win to win.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, okay, I don't know about all that, but I
just feel that personally, I feel that there's not much
that these guys are playing for US. You know, the
other countries they are playing for team pride, country pride,
and for everything else. And I don't believe that our
athletes are playing for the USA. I believe they're playing
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more for the endorsements and shoe deals and everything else.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Right, I'm the Chinese, and the Chinese they go old
and perfectly said. But you do know something about this,
because we look this up. It said on your Wikipedia
you did a hunger strike in nineteen ninety three to
protest something or other.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
But the point of the protest is beside the point.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
The stats show that you had your best statistical year
in the nineteen ninety three ninety four season. Do you
think that starving yourself like that led the better output
on the court? You know, you had that hunger, had
that hunger.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I can't Oh my god, Yes that's what it was.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
No, that's not it. Okay, Oh oh okay. I was getting.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Minutes, and you know I just played a really solid
season also, and then.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It's on the corner in the cafeteria. Where were you
getting the minutes on the court.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
I was getting the minutes.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I had a good sidekick and Bill Lambiert, So it
allowed me the freedom to do more. You know, I
didn't have to play center all the time. That's all
it was.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
So what you're saying is that you were hungry for
this new opportunity.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Yeah, but not for food. I was just hungry for rebounds.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Do you think that your career went downhill though after
that when you started eating?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I can't with you guys asking a serious question.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yes, hey man, let me tell y'all something, man, this
show is very interesting.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
All right, number one, I eat before games. I'm well fed.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
My determination was the reason I got my rebounds and
scored the points.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
That had nothing to do with anything else.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Okay, when I went under hunger strike, I did that
to protest the US policies. But I was you know,
I went ten days without eating and it was rough,
you know. And still try to play back except on.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
The scoreboard, great score, great in the status.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Ht me alone about this eating thing I've eaten?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Okay, all right, you know, but older us, there's food.
Leads to another question, because you're such a great role
model for us. Okay, yeah, you know you have a
sudden You have a son who plays ball at Lost
Beach State, right Chase Polonies? Now, first question, why didn't
you name your son youngin Polonies? Yeah? It seems like
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a total missed opportunity and young.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Yeah that's horrible.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Oh, because I would never do that to my child.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Oh well, who did it to? Who called you olden?
I mean, what were they? What was going on there?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
A great name? Yeah? Okay, so y'all need to stop.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
See now now you mean disrespectful to my parents name.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
It was a great name.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
If you did your research, you would know where my
name came from. Okay, there's a slight change in my name,
kind of like a chem Olajuan used to be a
k E E M. And then he went back to
the original with the age. I was the same way.
I just never went back to the original. H. So
you are I was holding? I was named after William Holding,
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the actor that was my grandfather's favorite act.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Wow from The Godfather.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Hit that breaking news button.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Wow here first, William William Holden was never in The Godfather.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Wait a minute, William Holding the drunk actor. We're sending
this to the poets. Hey, alright, you.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Do not pronounce his so in my ear, I'm hearing
all den all den, Oh, hearing the age.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
So I just started writing my name with an oh.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
See you learned something today. Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Well why did you name your son Chase? You're a
fan of the bank or something.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I actually do banking, Chase.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
See there you go.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But you you you've been a defender of Bronnie James, right,
and you know you tweeted something the other day.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
You tweeted, Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
It baffles me that people have issues with Bronnie James.
The young man has a dream to play in the
NBA like his father. He worked his ass off to
become a legit prospect. Yet folks have an issue. Grow
up people, now, I don't think you understand Olden. Yeah. See,
you said he plays like he wants to play in
the NBA like his father.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
He doesn't play like his father. He plays much worse
than his father.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yeah, he stinks father.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Than his father. He's like his father, his father.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
He's not good enough to be lebron lebron.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
But you you clearly said he wants to play like
his father said it.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Those are your words.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Oh my god, I don't mean exactly like his father.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And I was taking it back. I think you might
be lightheaded. You might need to eat something. Look, listen,
let me let's just take our advice. Old And you
work for farther sports as an analyst. If you want
people to trust your judgment, you need to do better.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Here.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Look at the camera and say, Bronnie give it up.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Retire now, come on the camera, tell Bronnie to retire.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Oh okay, all right, okay, you know what, go to the.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Regrigerator right now, because you know what's getting Olden, you
won the shows, you shot the show We're not playing
nice anymore. You're volume holding this show down? You should
you holding this show down?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Show? Is he off the line? Jay, hang up the phone.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You know you should have never had him on the
show again. Just a terrible attitude, terrible. He seemed really angry.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, he did.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Well.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That was terrible, horrible.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Although it does sound, Tony like our first interview with
him was even worse. But do you even remember what
happened in that interview?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You know, it must be so bad that I blocked
it out because I have no recollection wants to do
no recollection anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
We'll be right back after this commercial. All right, we're
back with our worst of NBA guests. All right, this
next clip, this is from twenty twenty four. All so,
this time in May, during the playoffs, we had on
former Celtic and Twan Walker. Just a terrible interview. You're
about to watch it now. You have to remember this
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interview took place in a far off time when the
Sixers were actually good.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I don't even remember that, Tony, I.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Know, you know, to be honest, I'm having trouble remembering
that time period.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Also.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, it's very hard to remember, so just you keep
that in mind when you're listening as we walk back
down on memory lane. Here May twenty twenty four and
Twin Walker roll.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
That clip satur light in the world. Okay, we'll admit.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
You know, this guy put together an okay basketball resume,
you know, decent. Okay, he won the tourney while at Kentucky.
He was a champion with the Miami Heaton two thousand
and six and not with Lebron. So that makes it
slightly easier to digest three time All Star known as
a Celtics great, even though those two words really don't
belong together. You can't be great and be on the Celtics,
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you know. Anyway, y'all, let's just get him in antwine. Walker,
welcome back to the show.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Thanks for having me. Guys, you got to you gotta
add too. Though.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
I'm one of the one of the few players. I
don't know the number. I used to keep up with
the number. There's one one in college and pro now,
so I speak, I speak as you know.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I'm like a little.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Different than everybody else. It's only about fifty or sixty
of us. They won a championship in cars and pro.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Have that conversation with your publicists first before you come
on the show.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Exactly, just know I'm on that list list, all right,
He's right good, we've established that.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
And also we know you, We know your pr people
are falling down on the job.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
We just stablished that though. Exactly. All right, Look, we're
going to get.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Into this six is nixt series soon. But you know
something up top, we got to adre us with you.
You know, the other day you made headlines when you
came out and said the best Celtic scorer of all
time was not Larry Bird but Paul Pierce. So that
leads to my next question here. Has anyone from Boston
tried to murder you yet?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
No, not yet.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
But I mean I'm talking about pure a store that
can go inside, outside, get to the foul line. We
know Birds there, but Paul was a little bit and
a little bit more athletic to Paul.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Not that much though, that's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Just so we're clear, when you were talking about scoring,
were you talking about on the court or off the court?
Because you know, I've seen Instagram videos with Paul Pierce
and he's definitely a terrific scorer.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, it does very well.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Yeah, court off, I'm talking on I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Right. Don't play it safe there. He's a media person.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
He's playing.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You know, you probably don't want to remember, but you
did play for the Timberwolves at one point in your career.
How confusing is it to you that the Timberwolves are
now actually a good team. Does your brain have as
much trouble processing that as everybody else's?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Does I do?
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Because I knew that it wasn't a big free agent market,
so I knew it was gonna be hard for them
to like lure superstar there. But they've drafted well, we
got to get them. Credit Carl, Anthony Towles, Anthony Edwitds.
These guys have turned out to be all stars and
superstars in our league. They made a couple of great moves.
I mean to acquire Rudy Gobert.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
About those great moves. Do you see what Mike Conley
did the other night running into his coach accidentally and
knocking him out?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You saw that?
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Yeah? I did see that. Man.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
When you saw that, I was a terrialic.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
The thing back when you are on the Timberwolves, your
coach was Randy witz More, one of the worst coaches
in NBA history Looking back now, don't you think it
would have been smarter you to maybe, you know, accidentally
just run in through him and knock him out of commission,
you know, getting flips on his back of something.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
No, we were terrible, man, My Minnesota days were bad.
I was on a bad team, bad situation. They won
a youth movement. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna throw
Randy women under the bus like that.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
But the team was bad. The organization was going in
a totally different direction. When I was there.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Well, we didn't say throw him under a bus. Literally,
we just meant injured, you know, we met like, hurt
his knee.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
No, I wouldn't hurt his knee. Randy was cool to me.
He was cool. We just were We just were not
very good.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Okayna's going on there that made you not good?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
It was just kind of just being on the table.
Wolves Was that the problem? Hold?
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Well, I think one it was too cold and I'm
from Chicago and that that's a different type of cold
up there. But just obviously the youth movement. They were
in the youth movement. When I got there, I was
in the back end of my career. I wasn't trying
to be in a youth movement situation. I just come
and win the NBA Championship and playing for the Miami Heat.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I was not trying to go to a team that
was in a rebuild situation. So it was tough just
kind of going to.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
That after leaving the Miami Heat and playing for championships.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
So that's what made it hard for me.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, that that to be tough, going from a championship
team to the Timberwolves.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yea, what is that like?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Is that like when you're you know, like in a
jacuzzi and then you get out and it's like super cold,
and you know, your thing shrivels up? Is that how
that type of how that feels?
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Yes? Like that? Okay, look, I would never look at
it that way, but it's something like.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Now you get yeah, all right, the guy wants to
know his thing will never shrivel up like that?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Get okay?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Week anyway, Look, you never played for the Lakers, but
you know, there's been a lot of talk about there
about this Bronnie James. Bronnie James. You know, everybody thinks
he's he wants to play with his dad. But oss
is dellas that now that Lebron is flamed out of
the playoffs in the first round, you know also us
to say Bronnie James is now having second thoughts about
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playing with his dad. In fact, we hear he's openly
saying that he wishes Jamal Murray was his father, even
calling himself Jamali among friends. What is your reaction to
this just stunning development.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
I think that's all false. I don't think that's none
of that's true. I think the only thing that's true
is I think Jamal Murray has had a dominated the
Lakers over the last couple of years. That and that's
that's actual facts. The Devin Nuggets have dominated the Lakers.
But I think leb Brownie would love to play with
his dad. I think it'd be it would be a
great thing. I don't know if it's going to happen.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
I don't know what sports, I don't know what it
does for sports. Just as a father from Lebron is
probably an unbelievable feeling to be in the same NBA
locker room playing alongside your son.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Such a shame. That's not gonna happen anymore.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
I don't think it's gonna hap. I don't think it's
gonna happed to.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Say the same thing, so good, the same There we go,
There we go, we to the Timberwolves.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Well, no, I think I think Brianni needs to go
back to college. I think if Lebron, I think, if
Lebron wants to do right by his son and get
him ready and prepare to play at the NBA level,
and I think he should go back to college and
enjoy college. I don't think he's ready for the NBA.
He didn't start last year. He played, you know, well,
how mean minutes he played a game ten fifteen?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Nobody knows. And I don't know. I never saw him.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
I don't think he's ready yet. I think, you know,
he needs another year of college. I think he should
have an opportunity to enjoy college. It shouldn't be all
predicated on him making it to the NBA and enjoy college.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Planning playing the tournament, planning sixteen.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I mean, exactly, go to a team with a better
chance of winning a title like Florida Atlantic, you.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Know, exactly university. Yeah there, but you.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Know what we could we could think about it felt
we could really think about. You know, that was kind
of I don't know if Lebron really that was the
decision because he was in California. But is that the
school he really wanted to go to. He was getting
recruited by everybody, right, you know what I mean? So
that maybe picked the wrong school, gets to the right
situation so you can enjoy college.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And it's so smart too.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
If he plays like another three four years, maybe he
goes to grad school, plays an extra year. By then
Lebron will have retired and he won't have to play
with them.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
There you go, Yeah, you're not lying.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Lebron is like the energizing money. It seems like he
never gonna retire. I just was reading this more than
watch his sports. I don't know if you guys saw that.
They're talking about maybe he gets another two three year deal.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
What is that? Just?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Is that just with what depends? Like what is he
gonna he can?
Speaker 6 (20:45):
No, he can he can opt out this summer and
become a free agent. So they were saying the Lakers
may sign him to another two three year deal after this.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
That would be great, sour Wow, wow, this is breaking news,
breaking new break walker, breaking news, on his shoes. Bro,
more terrible decisions by the Lake, by the Lakers there,
you go, exactly, all right.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
But I know that's I mean, he has that, he
has that option though he has like take fifty one
fifty two million that he makes next year, but he
can opt out and sign a new deal this summer.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Well, I heard that Brownie wants to opt out of
the family. So you know we're gonna have double moves here.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Exactly, Bro, I got that.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
I thought you want to.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well, you know your source is different than ours, you know,
beg to different. All right, let's move to the Sixers here.
How impressed are you with this Sixers team? Antoine? You know,
they go into Game five in New York truly hostile territory,
the city descending into chaos, protests at that war zone
known as Columbia University. Wasn't this the most bravest under
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pressure performance you've ever seen?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Ye?
Speaker 5 (21:56):
I don't know about that, but I thought it was.
I thought it was a great performance.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
And and we've we've all and you guys have done it.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
I'm sure.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
Uh. In the past, we've all criticized and b and
and his injuries and how he played the way guy's
gutting it out and giving this chance the team to win.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
We got to give him a lot of credit. So
I'm not gonna don't. I don't want to. I don't
want to make might of that.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
The fact that how he's playing, he's basically on one
leg and he's out there trying to will his way
through this series.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Absolutely, And the other thing he has is at home games,
he has these nick fans showing.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
So let me let me ask you guys about that though.
Since you bring that up, though, how do you feel
about that? How do how do they get those tickets?
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Like that?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
We got a great we got a solution for you
and Twine. Listen to what Tony came up with here.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
So now we avoid this in the future, we are
introducing fan I D legislation. You know, if you need
a passport to enter our country, then shouldn't you need
a passport to enter a game? Make sure you're a
fan of the team, you know, we just simply have
the government check fans home addresses, social security numbers and
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make them pass a written test, and that way we
can stop illegal fans from entering our games.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
I don't like that, how about what you guys, stop
publicly going after the fans and telling them to come
out and support the Sixers. Just like you got your
Eagles jersey on, you got your Eagles background, support the
Sixers the same way.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Once you gotta start, we do. But if the Knicks
buy the tickets.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Migrating into games and stealing yours, what can we do?
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure these tickets go on sale at
the same time.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
What's with y'all fans? Y'all wait around, y'all.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You want to blame the fans.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You want to blame the fans New York Will Yorkers
who come down. Yeah, first you know they're squatting our stands.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Then they're squatting in their universities. They're squatting all over
the squat and that's what they do.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
That back right now, you apologize to the Sixers fans
is not apologize to the best fan base in sports.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
I love the Sixers fans.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
I love the passion, the passion you got for your
teams and how how you make it really difficult at
times to play in Filly.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
But the problem with you, guys, it's embarrassing a little
bit that you guys are Let the New York fans
come in and get these tickets.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
You know what's embarrassing?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
You know it's embarrassing you coming in here, you because
you talk like that.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And walker, well you're going to be walking right now.
You're walking.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
You ain't.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
The short row, so.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Shad like you guys can have the constructive criticism.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
What don't you know a phone.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
On this guy?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Is he off the line? Jay, hang up the phone.
You know one thing we will never allow on the show.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
We will never mock the proud fans of Philly on
this show.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Never. That's something we would never do. Ever.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Well, that was all very rude of him, all around rude.
That's why he hasn't been back on the show since.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
They're terrible, terrible mistake by him. All right, Don will
be right back after this break. All right, we're back
with our worst of now our next terrible guest.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
There.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
We're gonna go back two years now, Tony. This is
from May twenty twenty three. We brought on NBA legend
Katino Mobley to talk about Jah Morant in that whole
gun situation which you amb but this was also when
the Sixers fired Doc Rivers. Well, now you know, Doc
Rivers is killing another team right in front of our eyes,
(25:43):
the Bucks. So that makes this all very relevant. You know,
it feels like totally fresh content. It's gonna feel fresh
when you.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Watch, exactly, and just a great example of how recycling
is good for content and the planet exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
This is just a great reuse of content here.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
So let's go back May twenty twenty three, Katino Mobiley
roll that tape Saturnlight. All Right, this guy native son,
born right here in Philadelphia. Twelve year NBA that we
couldn't be more proud of. Of course six as we would
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have been proud of.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
But we would have been much prouder plat for.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
The Rockets, the Magic, the Kings, the Clippers. Now he's
on Fox Sports as an analyst and he's also a
motivational speaker.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Wows a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Anyway, let's bring him on Katino mobiley. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
Guys, how you doing man hey.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
And you know, on the subject of how we do it,
you know, we know you had a bit of a
hot condition. You know, that's what caused you to retire
from the league. You know, we have a reputation as
you know, we can be tough on our guests, very
tough on our guests, but within easy today he's get
scared of coming on the show. Some don't show up,
like sometimes they don't even show up. So still we're
going to go easy on you. We don't want to
(27:01):
get you riled up all. We want the heart rate
to stay low, blood.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Pressure down, We need that.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Okay, yeah, exactly, Okay, So here's why we brought you
on today. Obviously, you played for the Orlando Magic in
two thousand and four, the year after Doc Rivers got fired.
Of course, you know in the last season that Doc
was there, that team, they finished an embarrassing twenty one
and sixty one but horrible. You came in, and so
did their new coach, Johnny Davis. They improved to a
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highly respectable thirty six and forty six, which is good
for the Magic.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, when you showed up, tell us Katino, how relieved
in the building were people that you know, Doc was
finally out of there.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
I don't know if they were relieved, man, you know
what I'm saying, Like, I, uh, twenty one games the
year prior and then I actually didn't want to leave
Orlando but I got into a little you know, bumping
the heads with Johnny Davis. When I left, we were
topping in Orlando. We were toping the East, one of
the top teams. And when I left, his guys didn't
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make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Thought yourself, which is good. I like that, good ego.
What was your beef with Johnny Day?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
What happened? Was he worse than Doc Rivers? What was his?
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Was he worse than Doc Rivers? This guy? No, Doc
wasn't bad. Listen, Docs never coached me. I think Doc's
a good dude.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
But you know, as far as Johnny, you know, he,
Steve Reston and I were at that time, you know,
you know, back court of excitement for the NBA and
you know the team that we had. I you know,
I didn't want to share time with the rookies. And
you know the reason there was success on our team
(28:42):
at the time I was there. You know, Grant Hill
was coming off you know, injury and he's feeling better.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Dwhite Howard was a rookie. You know, he was coming
off the bench. We had a nice little team.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
You know, he thought that the scheme and everything was his,
and you know, come to find out, the team broke up.
You know, it's kind of like it just wasn't what
it was when I left.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
So what you're saying there is that Johnny Davis is
equally a shitty coach?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Is Doc just as much as Doc? Just follow Yeah,
that's what it sounded like.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Listen. All I'm saying is we didn't go to the
playoffs the year. They didn't go to the playoffs the year.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
But you know, you know, just I got a question
for you since you played the game.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
You know, Doc Rivers, he's had like a twenty year
case of laryngitis.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
You can't understand the word this guy said.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I can't tell me as a player, how important is
it to actually be able to hear and understand your
coach when he's talking.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Oh, there you go, impersonation impression.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, listen, I screamed a lot when I was younger.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
You know, I think Doc's are I think Doc, you know,
he's a very He's not a stand Ben Gundy. He's
not a Jeff Ben Gundhy, and he's very talented as coach.
But I just think the personality of Doc, he's not pushy.
So in not being pushy. People practice bad habits throughout
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seasons and because you're not pushy, and you know, guys
just do what they want to do, and when it
starts to show in the playoffs and that's the that's
the bad thing about situation with that.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
One of the rumors that we're hearing with the head
coaching vacancy for the Sixes is former Raptors coach Nick Nurse.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
But don't you.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Think that would be a downgrade going from doc to
a nurse?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:36):
I mean they both won a championship. Doctor don't have
more championships than that.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, But you know, as a man who suffers from
a hot condition, I just want to know, you.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Know, who would rather to see.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
You know, if they say the doctors out, here's a nurse,
wouldn't that bother you?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:49):
Because nurses do more work.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Respect for nurses, yeah yeah, but you know you do
more work. This is a man who you have the
experience here. Yeah, you don't spit ole record, Yeah, you don't.
Just back to the Sixers. Yeah, you know, people are
saying the Sixers season was a failure, but when you
look at it, Joel Embiid won a title.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, he won the titling title. A scoring title, it
is harder to win.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
You got to beat the six hundred people in the league,
even people on your own team.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Wouldn't you agree?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Scoring title more impressive than the NBA title?
Speaker 7 (31:23):
Get out of here? Are you serious? Are you guys
on dope for dog food? Yes?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
You mind?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Excuse scoring title? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Scoring title on?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah? Don't want you to get two upset?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah, we could tell your blood pressure is like one
thirty six over eighty two.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Hold, bring it back?
Speaker 7 (31:40):
Which one is dopeer dog food? Which one is it?
I'm trying to.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Find you kidding me? He had to beat out five
hundred players in the league. He doubled your score. Yeah,
Jorge Joe LMB. What was your career high in the
season sixteen? He had thirty two?
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Yeah, No, my career high the season is twenty two.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Was that heart beats? Heart beats? Twenty two heart beats
per season? Yeah, that's what we're talking here.
Speaker 8 (32:08):
Okay, listen, I'm gonna tell you this, what how did
that work out?
Speaker 7 (32:12):
But you being the scoring leader doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
We got a title already.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
What do you mean it doesn't matter, doesn't matter matter
you brought it up. This is a source subject for
you and can tell why because you never played for
the Sixers, right exactly?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
You wish you wish you played for the six I.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Do not know.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I do not Yeah, you don't. He's getting a little agitated.
We probably don't want to take it down enough. Okay, Okay,
we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
We're gonna move to a better topic, a more a
more positive note for you. We want to talk about
how you almost got traded to the Knicks, right, and
then this was in the late two thousands, and then
they brought you in for a medical evaluation and they
found you had this heart condition. How glad at that
point were you for that heart condition? Do you go
back and think of the years of your life you
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would have lost had you had to play.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
For such a terrible organization.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
At the time. Dan h d'An TONI was the coach.
Speaker 8 (33:09):
I wouldn't mind playing with D'Antoni, but I wasn't really
a fan of uh the guy Dolan, the owner.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
I wasn't a fan of him.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
So I think, uh, you know, I for me, truthfully,
I gotta be I should have been careful of how
I wish.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
That one truth?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
What should you have done.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
I love New York. I love New York. I spent
my summers in New York. I love D'Antoni, but I
did not like the owner.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
He's a terrible, terrible right, all right, I see we're good.
I think we're a little calmer.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Now, this is okay, all right, I'm not afraid I
was gonna call EMT there for a second. Okay, we
were close. But now you know, we saw you on
this other show, Katino. You were talking about how Jah
morant Is is not being a good role model for
flashing a gun. But hold on here, I think you're
missing the point. Yeah, he lives in Memphis. The team
is called the Grizzlies. If there are grizzly beards running
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around there, well, wouldn't it be smart to carry a gun?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
The Grizzlies are everywhere.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
No, it's not smart to listen licensed in a hoster
in the box.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
All good.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
I'm not saying you know you shouldn't carry your gun.
But at the end of the day, did you're you know,
your big influence in your role model?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
What about about what about John Wayne?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
You know, is he not a role model to you?
Or Charles Bronson.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
Charles Bronson, John Wayne that wish, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
You wanted to be him?
Speaker 1 (34:42):
You want to watch death Wish twelve. I said, oh
my god, what a guy here. He doesn't take nothing.
So I want to be after world's number one sports catch.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
And look at you and look at you now and amazing.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I'm sensing a little look at you.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Now, You're not You're not fighting to fly right now?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 7 (35:04):
Fly?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Are you kidding me? We take on the whole sports
world over here? You are? You? Are you get in
the next.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Time I see you, I'm gonna be right in my
fist right where the sun don't shine, because guess what,
I guess what you're getting katinoed from the show.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
You're right of here. You're done, You're off the show.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
By see you put your We're hanging up the mobile
phone and you get eaten by a grizzly bear.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Don't put your bag in the back of something.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Get out of here? Is he off the line? Jay?
Hang up the phone.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I wish he was more like I guess last week
and you know, just didn't show up at all. Yeah exactly,
that would have been way better. Well that was a
terrible interview, but horrible. At least he survived. I guess
that's good.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, that's true. You know, we didn't kill them, so
that's good. That's good. That's good by us, you know,
because we're professionals. That's what we're exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
All right, And on that note, we're going to take
a quick break. We'll be right back after this. All right,
we're back there, wrap up our worst of NBA guests. Okay,
we're still in twenty twenty three. We're going back now
to April twenty twenty three. Okay, we had on NBA
legend Kenyan Martin to discuss if the NBA was getting
soft because they, you know, they toss out players for fighting.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah, exactly. I mean we already know the answer to that.
Of course, the NBA is terrible.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
But by the way, when you're listen to this, okay,
there's a whole section here where we discuss how much
the Houston Rockets suck. Okay, now, remember, yes, they still
kind of suck, but they actually sucked way much more
and more back.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
So if some of this content.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
You know, it feels kind of dated to you, well
that's because your brain is slow in the processing right, Yny.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
And exactly you're the problem and not the innovation.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Exactly, you're the problem. All right, So here we are.
It's April twenty twenty three. In this clip, Kenyan Martin
rolling fus.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Goal satellite woke.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
All right, This man number one overall pick of course
in two thousand played for the Nuggets, the Knicks, the Nets,
where he went to two NBA finals. But of course,
his biggest accomplishment we all know is his reputation for
being one of the toughest and fiercest players in NBA history.
Listen to this one hundred and five career technical foulsands wow.
(37:27):
And more importantly and impressively, one of just three NBA
players since nineteen ninety nine the rack up six or
more flagrant thousand one season. Just terrific. There, So let's
bring him on the show. Kenyan Martin, the true legend.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 9 (37:42):
Those are stands I did not know, so appreciate you
sharing it.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
That's all we do. We do on this the type
of thing we do. You know, Kenyan, we don't need
to tell you this. These NBA playoffs they're a joke,
you know, the refs throwing out players left and right
for bareley doing anything. You know, they're trying to make
the game about, you know, shooting and dribbling and rebounding.
That's not what's about, you know, it's about trimbling on
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the players in the name of competition, you know, intimidating them,
threatening to permanently injured them, you know, which we were
so good at. You know, don't you think that we've
lost the soul of the game.
Speaker 9 (38:18):
Yeah, I would agree we've lost the soul of the game.
Yeah I would. I would definitely agree with you in
that aspect. But but but permanently injured in someone probably
I wouldn't take it that far.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Well, you know, maybe a few nights in the hospital, right, yeah,
maybe not perm.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
You gotta walk the line. You gotta walk the line.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
You know, Daron like knockout Karl alone once, didn't you
see it, didn't you put the elbow to the head.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (38:44):
Yeah, But no knights in the hospital though, what I'm
saying he went home to his wife and kids.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Well, that's disappointing that but you tried, You tried, you
know what, exactly, when you look at the way basketball
is right now, that it's so soft, does that make
you want to cry because they're kind of crapping on
the legacy of violence that you and so many of
your your friends and yeah, you helped create there.
Speaker 9 (39:05):
Yeah, it had to this change because I think it
would be it would be out of.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Control right now.
Speaker 9 (39:13):
It was necessary. It was a necessary change, man, it was.
It was one of those things where if they didn't,
people were gonna stop tuning in and it was effecting
their bottom line. So changes, changes must be made.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
It wasn't a moment where you thought, all right, maybe
this has gone a little too far, maybe I might
have just broken a few laws.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Was there a moment like that for you?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (39:39):
Now, mine was a conversation. Oh, mine was a conversation
with the late great David Stern. I'm saying mine was
a conversation, not a moment.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
What happened in that conversation?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
You know, did David Stern like lock you in a
room and punch you, like say hey, you know I'm
not for.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
This, knock it out, slap you across the face. What happened?
Speaker 5 (39:59):
Would it's absolutely?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Oh wow, he was tough, David Stern. What do you say, Oh.
Speaker 9 (40:04):
Yeah, no, no, you to cut it out like his
exa words, do you if you want to be a
part of this league, I suggest you cut it out.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
You know I used to have respect for Stern. I'm
losing respect for David Stern here, you know.
Speaker 9 (40:18):
So therefore I walked the line like I walked the
line without without you know what I'm saying. I didn't
after that point there was no more in game fights
or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
So I said, yeah, like I understood, I got to
miss it out.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
And Okay, you know, you seem I gotta say, you
seem kind of like, uh, what's the word?
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Kind of zen?
Speaker 5 (40:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Very, And I gotta be honest, it's a it's a
it's a little annoying, like you know, you're you're what
happened to the Kenyan Martin?
Speaker 1 (40:49):
You know who was you know throwing around?
Speaker 5 (40:51):
Yea?
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Carl Malone, you know making David.
Speaker 9 (40:55):
Yeah, he's done.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Deep deep down there.
Speaker 9 (41:01):
Man, I've had I've had eight years to suppress that guy,
you know, have I retired in twenty fifteen, so I've
had eight years to suppress that that guy.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
And not because at home.
Speaker 9 (41:14):
I'm not hanging off the chandelier or I'm not threatening
the dog. And you know I'm cool, man, I'm not.
But like I said, I react the situation. You look
at it the only situation, Well.
Speaker 7 (41:24):
Let me let me live.
Speaker 9 (41:26):
The karmelone situation I initiate. But it was a retaliation
for some shit. Had nothing to do with me.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Right, you were getting them back for the knock and
Isaiah Thomas to the first It had.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Nothing to do with Kenyan Martin whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
But everything else is Thomas, thank you for that, you know,
for Bloody and Karl alone, and send you a gift
basket of something.
Speaker 9 (41:49):
Public actually did recently publicly on on the same podcast
that I told his story on. So yeah, no, but no,
I just wann't them situations, man, I was. I was
wired different when I played, and to the effect of
(42:11):
my respect went a lot longer and further than me
getting kicked out of the game or me fighting in
the situation. You know what I'm saying, I was all
I'm all about respect.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
I think you're missing the whole point there. I think
Isaiah Thomas was trying to tell you something. He was saying,
thank you for not respecting other people? How zen are you? Like,
let me ask you something. Let's give you hypothetical. You know,
now goes to McDonald's. They forget to put his fries
in the back. Do you like you okay? Or do
you through the drive through?
Speaker 9 (42:45):
Might climb through the window, might climb through the window
because they because they from my son, and my son
didn't get his fries.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Ye But I'm for family, yea, but.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Not really deal it with my food.
Speaker 9 (43:01):
So actually I'm going to be polite.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
All right.
Speaker 9 (43:05):
They've been with my food, so now we're not gonna
I don't want the fry, I don't want the basket
of fries just fell on the floor and you scooped
to the side like we don't want those.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
So good point.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Good point. It did bring up your son. Let's talk
about your son quickly.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I don't want to sally the mood here, but obviously
it's a it's a tough subject for you and your family.
You know, I'm very sorry, we're all sorry about what's
happened with your son, Kenyan Martin Jr. You know, a
couple of years ago, very sadly of all the teams
got drafted to the Kings terrible enough, heart breaking. Even
more sadly, he gets traded to the Houston Rockets, you know,
(43:43):
the most pathetic organization.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
And all of basketball.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
How are you helping your son through this tragic and
hopeless time for him?
Speaker 9 (43:50):
Hey, listen, man, it was a it was a blessing,
and it was a blessing in disguise get drafted by
the Kings and day and going to Houston. No, man,
but just it's an unfortunate situation. But it's it's like
I said, it's a blessing for him to be living
out a dream and making a name for himself.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Man, And just a second, but you want to say
a bunch of.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
Always like that? You know, ken.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
You example the problem with your situation.
Speaker 9 (44:25):
Every situation ain't like that, man.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
I know this is a sole subject. But you look
at your son's stats. Of course, I'm talking about his
number of flagrant fouls. He only he only has one
flagrant foul and his entire three year Korea, Kenyon.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Yeah, that's your son.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
You know, as a father, do you tell him how
disappointed you are in him?
Speaker 1 (44:51):
He's shaming the family. Now, how disappointed are you?
Speaker 7 (44:55):
There's one right, It's only one right? Yeah, and that
was some bs.
Speaker 9 (45:01):
So listen, hey, he's failing me. Tremendously. Man, Listen, I can't.
I don't know where to be getting to start.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
Man, like you go.
Speaker 9 (45:08):
He's not holding up the end of that I'm saying
of the last name. So I definitely need to have
a talk with him.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
Oh here's what I.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Want to look at the camera, Kenyan Junior, right now,
say Kenyan, I'm so disappointed in how weak you are.
I want you to step up and start bashing guys
in the head and play the game as.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
It's meant to be played. Make me some permanent injuries.
Speaker 9 (45:35):
Yeah, see, I thought I thought we gotta pass the
permanent injury part of this coming.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Oh you want to be permanently injured? Yea, guess what?
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Come back to a little angry and next time because
you yes, you're permanently off.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
The show business Business show. Bring back the old Kenyan
Martin and come back. He's welcome.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
You need a little less anger management this show.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
How dare you? How dare you? How dare you?
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Don't you're on the time machine and come back when
you're twenty Yeah, who wants to do some Bye?
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Is he off the line? Jay?
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Hang up the phone, Tony, I'm not one hundred percent
sure that was actually Kenyan Martin did not seem.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Like I'm not sure either. I don't know what who
that was.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
You know, that just summarized the problem with guests on
this show. We try to give advice and they don't listen.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Tonty exactly.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
You know, just like we give advice to everybody out there,
rate review the show, share.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
It with all your friends.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
So you as the guest, and go do what we said.
So do what we tell you to do. You know, Tony,
I just realized, you know, those were terrible guests, But
you know what was great about the show?
Speaker 1 (46:57):
No producer correction. I mean, what do you what are you.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Going to correct? Silent exily, nothing, nothing. She just use
a clip of just him sitting there quietly. Every eight
that's there is exactly anyway why, Like Tony said, you
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your dial. Ora and Tony, you know, we didn't have
to do much, but you did a great job as always,
so did you.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Pollie another fallless
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Show, they go see your people later this week, sometime
who knows, Yeah, see your
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