June 11, 2025 • 32 mins
Welcome to Unbreakable! A mental wealth podcast hosted by Fox NFL Insider Jay Glazer. On today's episode, Jay hits the road with rock legend, the one and only Bret Michaels. Bret opens up the velvet ropes for an all-access pass of his incredible journey and gives an inside look of what the music business and being a Rockstar is really like!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental Wealth podcast
Build you from the inside out. Now here's Jay Glacier.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome in to Unbreakable, a mental Wealth podcast with Jay Glazer.
I'm Jay Glazer and joining me now. If you follow
my Instagram, you see that I go big and my
glazier palooz is at my house. I don't have just
anybody play music. I don't just use the shit out
of my friends for nothing. I gotta go and throw
these extravagant glazier ploos is. The star of news is
(00:36):
the man joining me now, my brother. And one of
the greatest things about doing this podcast is I met
this man the first time he was on my podcast,
and he truly has become one of the best friends
I've ever had in my life. You know, nothing but
a good time. Yes, probably Noma's the guy who've broken
up to a girl with over a song every rose.
How's this story? One and only? Brett Michaels.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Oh right, brother, Jay, my brother, I'm doing awesome, man.
It is great to see you. And we've had many jayapaloosas,
and a few of them that we actually remember, which
is good.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yes, well barely vaguely. Let me tell you guys about it.
So you guys, I was in no Brett one of
the biggest recruiting artists in the world. But also Brett,
as time has gone on here has gotten more successful,
and I want to kind of dive into him what
he's done. And he always kind of reinvents himself and
builds up more and builds up Moore. The Brandon gets
burger so much so that he played at the main
concert at the Indy five hundred a couple of weeks
(01:29):
ago that was broadcast on Fox, and it's like, man,
there was hundreds of thousands of people there. He just
gets bigger. With Tom He's like, okamis wine. So I
want to kind of dive into that with him. But
before we get that, folks, let me tell you how
big Brett Michaels is. I take Brett to Steelers camp
because that's what friends do.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And I love you for it, Jay, I love you
for it. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Here we are Pittsburgh Steelers camp, and Brett grew up
in Pittsburgh. Outside of Pittsburgh, he grew up going to
Steelers camp outside the fence. Put his little kid. I'm like,
I got you. I'm gonna bring you in with Mike Tomlin,
not that whole thing, and we bring them the Steelers camping.
After we go to a bar in La Trope. So
it's me him, Mike Tomlin, head coach of the Steelers.
(02:14):
This is the head coach of the Steelers. People could
care less that Mike Tomlin was sitting at that bar
called Dino's. There was a line out the door for
Brett Michaels. I'm like, this is supposed to be an
NFL bar and NFL camp. They could care less. But
you know, Brett, you know what that is because the
authenticity of the guy that you are. I think it's
(02:36):
just brought you all this love throughout the years and
it continues to just build like that.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, Jay, first of all, thank you that day to
this second second here with you, one of the best
days of my life. You have to understand. First of all,
I want to go on the record, Jay, I love
you for the build up, but that is not true.
They loved you, they love Mike. They were crawling over
The problem was I was standing in front of you
and Mike, so they had to crawl over me to
(03:04):
get to you. Guys, right, they were just moving me
out of the way. I was just accepting the love
as it came by, right. But we went to camp
that day and dude, you we talked about this a lot.
I since my childhood, especially around six years old getting
diagnosed with being diabetic, sports has been such an important
part of my life. Saved my life and music. And
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we used to go there with my dad, my sisters.
We would stand on the other side of the fence
and you know, I'm talking about I've got pictures of me.
I've shown you. Joe Green in the background, Lambert Terry
Bradshaw came over and said hello. Terry was super cool.
And then all of a sudden, to be there with you,
with Mike Tomlin throwing ball, talking to TJ, talking to
(03:48):
just it was just it was awesome. And then I stole,
I'm not gonna lie to you. I borrowed a couple
of the practice balls. They managed to make it into
my RV which I'm traveling around in. Now, you know,
an ABD outdoorsman. So the uh, I just wanted to
say a couple.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Of talking about that. By the way, they start a
mini camp, but they can't practice because they got no balls.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You know, hey, it's said boom, what happened on?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Now we know the crime has been solved.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Tell the Rooney's I'm good for it.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Aaron Rodgers shows up and he's like, dude, there's no
balls to throw the balls.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'm not kidding. I took a couple. I'm not gonna
hide you. They managed to disappear, right, but the Rooneys know.
I'm good for it. I'm coming clean out. I'm gonna
buck up on those all right dinos. I think it
was one of the bars in Latrobe and that was
one of the best. I'm telling you. I got some pictures.
We'll post them up again of the uh we'll just
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say no letters.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Video of me and Mike t going what this dude,
No one even knows you're here, my team coach. They
could care less. He's like, all good, broke, all good.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You know him, I'll go it was awesome. And his
son Mason there, Mason comes out on stage with me
all the time. He's a great musician.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Opens up for Brett Michaels. Now it's sometimes on the road.
How cool is that?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
It's amazing and that folks, I want you to hear
this that's the way.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
One of the times I try and do his life.
I try and connect people, and I try and connect
good people with good people. And all I did was
I asked Brett to sit with Mason. Hey, he's a
rising recording artist. Can you sit with him. I've known
him since he was zero, and can you just help him,
you know, give him some advice along way. It's all
(05:36):
I was trying to do. And you sat with him,
and you went above me on and you saw something
in me like, not only am I going to after
you're sitting with him, not only do I have this viceroom, Mason,
I'm gonna have you open up for me in Pittsburgh
and several other places. It was a win win for all.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It was great. And I told you, I think, knowing
this about you but about me as well, I don't
say something I'm not gonna do. So I told Mason,
I said, and he's like, are you serious? We're gonna
be start like at the Amphitheater on the Party Grawl tour.
And he he killed it. I mean he walked out there.
He was such a pro The crowd got fired up
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and boom, we went into it and it was just
we do it every year. The party were at three
point zero now party grawl, Party grawl, three point zero.
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So that's what I want to get into, correct because
a lot of guys, you know, they have their their
hits and they as they get older, certain guys kind
of can float away and oblivion. Certain guys trying to
reinvent themselves. You see different things. But you have almost
found this fountain of youth in this party, Gras. And
it's not just you, but the names you bring up
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there with you when I talk about, hey, you know
the way you your loyalty is about a give give right.
What can you do for someone without expecting someone something back?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
That's that's would be a loyalist. And it seems like
that has given back to you tenfold. But tell me, like,
what are I begin with this? So again, folks till
like Brett'll do these concerts now we calls the party
grop and give us an idea of who's out there
with you, but also kind of how you decided to
evolve into that from just you know, going solo by
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yourself or when you're with poison to what it's become now.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And why so a couple of reasons. One. So, first
of all, let me start with my brothers in Poison,
Bobby cc Ricky, they're my friends, they're my brothers. I
am grateful. I wouldn't be here talking to you if
it wasn't for us together in a small town out
of Mechanics Purt Pennsylvania, getting together, selling everything we own,
getting in a van and driving to Los Angeles. Live
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behind a dry cleaner. There's no lie. I think we've
talked about this many times. I'd live behind a dry
cleaner in downtown LA. And that loyalty amongst us has
been fantastic. Now we do it with Poison about every
four years. We did eighteen, then we did the stadium
tour in twenty two, and then we'll do it again
here in a few you're it'll be amazing. But the
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solo careers, because if anyone watches any of my socials,
I'll go from Indie where we just broke poisons record
with the Brett Michaels band. So Poison set the record
twenty thirteen sixty eight thousand, and we just did a
little over eighty five thousand, and I told them round
it up to eighty six. We rounded it down to
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eighty five. I go, no, no, don't round me down,
round me up. You go, And I want to tell
you something. Working it's about having great relationships in the
business I'm in. It's about moving parts. It's about so
many moving parts every minute of every day, from doing
an interview to drawing out what you want to set
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to be to knowing the band you want on it.
The first words out of my mouth is I need
to call the artists myself. I'm like, this is about
us having in order for the fans to have a
great time, the band's got to have a great time.
I can only work off sincerity because everyone comes out
with me is playing real live music, in other words,
where the instruments are live, the show's live. And so
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it starts like that, and then I literally drew this.
I'll make you laugh when you see the drawling. I
drew it on a piece of paper, Neanderthal style, right
on my Hillbilly hard drive. That's why I call it paper.
And my pen drew out the stage where we were
going to go, what side the artist would come out on.
And then you find the right people around me, the ton.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
People who've been who you've had to perform with you
in a basic party round.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
So it's so basically, here's here's D Snyder born on
the same day as me, March fifteenth. So D Snyder
from Twisted Sister. So I go three songs into my set.
I say, I'd love to hear a Twisted Sister song.
I land pyro goes de Snyder comes out those three hits,
he lands. Mark McGrath from Sugar Ray born on the
same day he plays music. Chris Jansen, a huge country
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star right now, comes out, starts doing buy Me a Boat.
Then Don Felder from the Eagles, Lou Graham from Foreigner Bans.
Want to hear kit after kid after kid, and that's
what we bring him, just an absolute party.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So what got you to say, Hey, this is you know,
sometimes the best ideas are so simple, it's brilliant, but
no one dots thought of it. But you what got
you to think of that idea?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
So it was a simple I wanted to have a
show where instead of the bands, they do a set,
then they shut down for a half hour, then they
have another band, and at the end of the night
one of them may join you. Right, I said, what
if we do this. Every band that's going to open,
like Don Felder from the Eagles. I mean, you're talking
about the guy's written some of the biggest songs in history.
(10:45):
He's the nicest guy in the world. He does his
Eagles hits, then he comes and joins me on stage.
Then all of a sudden, you have Night Ranger out there, right,
you got Chris Jansen out there, Jeffersons Starship, and then
I'm mixing country, rock, hop, you name it. When I
did Boardwalk Rock a couple of weeks ago in Ocean City, Maryland,
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it's all the bands fuel lit, every band that's been
friends of mine forever coming up on stage and just
killing it, and they join me and we either do
one of their songs they do one of mine. But that,
to me, Jay is what music's always been about. When
we're setting it at jay Apaloos on your patio, which
is amazingly awesome looking over an ocean, I won't mention
(11:27):
which ocean, right it is. You set the tone of
that party. And I told you that the first time
I ever met you. You set a tone. You welcome
people in that door. We feel welcome. We break out
the guitar, we listen to Sean McVay saying the most
horrible version of every Rose ever, but we love him.
Then he had remember me and him wrestle.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yes, and Cliff King broke it up. Yes, yes, but
it was and Cliff, it just go back to what
spawned the idea. In the first play, you're saying how
great it is, but what gave you the idea?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
So the idea was just it was simple, bringing out
friends of mine that I could join, they could join
me on stage, that we're willing hear me out to
let my solo band be the music. So my solo
band put in all the work. Pete Evick and my
band put in all the work to learn every song
from Foreigner, every song from the Eagles, every song from
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Sugar Ray, whoever's joining me, right, they learn them. So
that the idea was to come out and seamlessly. You know,
most times you have to stop down. The audience is
kind of like, okay, they're waiting. You're in the middle
about to you know, rock the world, and all of
a sudden you got to stop down and change drummers,
drum kit. We didn't want to do that, and so
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the idea was it was seamless, and that's what happened.
They came up. My band is one big band, and
they come out and three songs in, I'll finish say
nothing but a good time. I land on the ground.
Piro goes up. I throw the microphone and all of
a sudden d Snyder singing I want to rock right
and we're not going to take it. Then he singing
(13:06):
Highway to Hell, throws the microphone back to me, and
then I go up. And most of the time I
stay on stage and play guitar or congos, you know
what I mean? Who, by the way, Bill jumped out
on us? On you? Bill Richer's supposed to be up
there on that stage.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Is our producer at Foxonville Sunday. So topics to become
a big business for you. But what I didn't understand
until I talked to you more, there's so much more
business than just what you see. Hey, tickets people are
showing up. There's you have a hand in concessions and
shirts and merchandise and all that. How did you educate
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yourself on what you should be getting, what should be
produced and then you can have a stake in that.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
That's actually a very that's a great question.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
So that's what I do.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You do great questions. So here's the real answer. The
first book I ever read, ever read about the entertainment
business called get It in Writing, So it told you
everyone loves your babe, you're the best come out. We're
going to take care of you. If you don't have
that in writing, good luck at the end of the show.
(14:15):
So we go in there and the first thing we
did from ground zero that was a blessing for Poison.
We kept all of our publishing except for what's called
an admin deal and administration deal, so on all of
our songs, the masters, the songs, the publishing we own.
So when those songs go anywhere they're played except for
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a ten percent administration deal that Bobby and myself worked
on in getting with the band Ricky and CC. And
so that's an important part is own. These are all
like our children, every song, whether solo or Poison. Owning that,
then I own my own merchandise. So and everyone wanted
to give you an advance. Here's where they get you, Jay.
(14:57):
When you're starving and you're living in a warehouse, they
send you a limousine and a contract this big, and
you haven't eaten two weeks. It looks pretty exciting, and
it happens. It happens to so many great artists, and
we just held out and said, nope, I'm starving anyway.
And we just went through the deals and the deals,
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and we finally just decided the keyword bet on ourself.
So there was no big glory day when our first
record came out. I was in El Segundo, California. There
was no massive party. I love to tell you there was.
You know, they sent a private jet, there was a limo.
I was setting in probably leather pants, thinking there might
(15:40):
be some kind of a party on the warehouse floor
in El Segundo. No lie shrink wrapping cassettes and albums
in a line with my band on a cold out table.
That's I'm not making that up. We were an independent
record and then we went in in our first video.
We put the money together for Cry Tough and Talk
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Dirty to Me, and we went in there and Talk
Dirty to Me became a top ten single, and we
were the first independent band to sell over three million. Guy,
it was unheard of, like most independent bands sell ten thousand.
Back in the day when it was actual product. You
know what I mean. But my work method for everything
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everything is have fun, get it done, have passion, purpose
and take care of people. That's it. And make sure
again profit. Don't ever be embarrassed to make a profit
at what you do. You're kicking ass h. No, I'm
just saying I'm sorry, I'm spitting it out, but it's
not close to my heart. It's what happens to so
(16:43):
many bands. An example, if you think about looking at
an arena and you get an offer, what you got
to look at as the GP. So you're looking at
the gross potential of what that building holds a sell
out and I'm thinking, well, if they're booking me in
this size of a building, hedding on being a sellout.
So I take a guarantee versus the back end of
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the deal so that everyone has skin in the game.
If you don't have people with skin in the game,
they don't need to do anything. There's no if ten
people show up, they made money because there's no skin
in the game. And so you want people to be
invested both yourself. You've got to make good partnerships with
the promoters.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
But is there I guess the question I'm asking you
is like so if I was doing this, I know
I'm going to get a gate, but I wouldn't know. Hey,
I could create an energy drink and sell it or
a water or how much do I get from shirts
who are like, hey, you're not going to produce the shirts.
I'm going to produce the shirts. I guess how did
you educate yourself on all that other part of the business?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
This sounds strange, very simple. I have a quick learning curve,
so I only got to get sucker punched and jaw
wat learn burn once and I'm learned. I call it.
I'm learned. I just I said, wait a minute, why
don't I just giving me a small advance against my
own shirts and image and likeness. I'm like, why don't
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I just take to bet on my again? I know
it's a generic term, but it's really true, bet on yourself.
So I bet on me. There was no big advance,
but it paid three hundred times that owning. When you
own your content as much as you can, that's anyone
will tell you. Content is king.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Relationships are everything too, so everything right for everything. Who
was the best rocker for business advice when you were
coming up?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
So, honest to God, are you ready for this. One
of the best. As I was breaking into the business,
one of the best piece of advice I ever got
was from my friend E Sneyer. He's like, look, I've
been through the highs the lows his album that come
out before ours, you know, and he just said, here's
some great things to do, and here here's some things
you don't want to do, and he had to live them.
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I had to live them, and it was some of
the best advice ever. And I got to give credit
to the members of Poison as well as my solo band,
you know, PD my guitar and my music directory is
our buddy, but smart business guy. But when we hit
that stage, we are hell on fire. Like we every
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bit of my love, every bit of my anger, passion.
I've been a listen. I'm a pink human pin cushion.
I have over a million injections, five shots and days
since I've been six. And I take that pent up,
crazy anger, a little touch of you know, ADHD. I
take all that stuff and when I get that ability
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to go on stage, the most important thing I could
tell you is I am forever grateful, forever I look out.
I'm a fan of music, and I look out at
the indie, eighty five thousand people rocket in the heat, partying,
and there's not one moment out one second that I'm
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not grateful for every person there. And I'm a fan.
So I brought all American rejects in their entire family
out on stage with me, where Bill skipped out. By
the way, I had a whole congo set up, and
all she had to do was put on that leather
thong we asked him to wear.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
No no, no, no thanks.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
He turned it down. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So this is why I'm gonna tell you a story
of that a legend affected me. And that's why I
kind of went, I'm gonna tell you this story. And
see it's another and he's a legend, but you have
another like icon that man. This happened one day and
he said this. So the guy who got me to
be an NFL insider, see you throughout America is running
a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
That's who. By the way, I don't think you ever
told you the story. You haven't, so let me say this,
but one of the best to ever do it, one
of the most dedicated, but go pleeple.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
One of the one of the most feared defenders of
all time ever, you know, Hall of Famer for the
forty nine ers. I didn't work a run. I was
just fronts of them. And Ronnie came to me in
two thousand and two or three two and said, Jay,
you have what people want. They want information, so back
then they weren't and a FORLL insigners there was you know,
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the Internet had just kind of come out a few
years earlier, and I was the first minute, five minute
breaking news down in this country with a guy named
Lynn Pascarelli and Chris Mortensen and John Clayton. But he says,
what you should do. Have your agent because I was
working at CBS, but I was behind the scenes and
they would come on the NFL today a CBS say, oh,
Jay Glazer has broken this and this it is our
inside of Jay Glazer is reporting this. Jumn answers say that.
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But I would break stuff on the internet. He said,
have your agent call fifty of the top markets in America.
Offer up. You go to a studio every Tuesday or Wednesday, Monday,
whatever and offer up to be their NFL insider for
their team or that market. So Atlanta, Saint Louis Los Angeles,
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Oh Clinton, New York, Philly hits for all of it
and charging five hundred bucks a clip. And back then
I was making nothing and it was Ronnie's idea, and
I believe we got twenty markets each week. Five hundred
dollars was a clip. The crazy part was they were
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all Fox markets, every.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Fox station's that's all Fox Sports Net.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Doing best dance sports show period, even though I was
working for CBS. But CBS doesn't put me on the air,
so that Fox saw me. Ronnie Law. I owe my
career to Ronnie Law. So do you have a story
that's kind of like that where, oh my god, Rock
Icon had told you this.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yeah. So again, I want to say this because one
of the probably greatest people in my life, who has
since passed away, was of all the people, see, I
know you're looking for the eye because in musician world,
it's a it's a different thing than having someone sit
down there. There's not a lot of mentoring. I'm one
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of the few people that once I work with every
young band, I want nothing from them. So but what
happened was is there was a manager's name was Howard Kaufman, right,
and he worked with irving as off and we went in.
We met different management to partner with us, and he
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was the best. He was a diabetic like myself, and
he couldn't have been more straightforward, more honest, told me
what to watch out for, what to do, what not
to do. He would tell you, Brett out know what
you read. Because I'm excited. I'm a musician. I'm like,
I want to fucking play right, I'm like, I want
to go play music. And he said, just yes, that
will happen. Take a breath, because this contract you're about
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to sign, you have to sell five hundred million records
to make thirty eight cents like this contry. Look at
these back pains. It was real. I was blessed like
you o' ronnie, you know what I mean? At the
farm print, yes, look at and he he watched out
and he never ever ever stepped in. He wasn't a
(24:14):
step in front of the mic. Guy, He wasn't I
need to be on stage. He said, this is what
you do. But he gave great advice to all the
members of Poison and myself and to this day, the
last I won't get emotional on you like I did
last time. But at his funeral was me and Steven
Tyler where the last to stand over his grave and
(24:35):
laid the dirt on it. You know what I mean,
the last to shovel. I know that sounds, but I
was waiting until everyone. I wasn't going till and Steven
said I'm not going either, and he would tell you
that story. We stood there and just sprinkled the last
bit of dirt on it. Because he'd helped Aerosmith with
some great stuff, too interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
He said, there's not a lot of mentor, but you
do give me your top piece of advice for aspiring.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Perform Number one, top piece of advice more than any
other thing, I repeat over and over when I say
bet on yourself. No one is going to believe in
Jay Glazer until Jay Glazer believes in Jay Glazer. No
one's going to believe in Brett Michaels until Brett Michaels
believes it. And then when you bet on yourself, you
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can adjust and adapt to anything. Number Two, there's a
couple got to go with it. So if you don't
have the passion for what you're doing in the music business,
you're screwed. You know what I mean, You're just you're
you're ready on a bad path, right. Same with sports.
I mean sports is you know, sports has saved my life.
So and I can say this, the most important thing
(25:47):
in the end, so that you're never bitter, never bitter,
don't carry that with you is have fun, surround yourself
with great people and get it done. You got like
when we met, we instantly knew there was this awesome
friendship and connection that went beyond words. We were great friends.
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We've been to highs and lows. And I think that
that's surrounding yourself with great people. It takes a village,
it takes a team. You know, you don't have someone
blocking for you on the line as a quarterback, You're
not going to last long in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I think what separates you, man, is that look. In
order for you to be a star, you gotta be selfish.
And you were the most selfless dude. I know it
self lists you cared so much about folks. Let me
tell you what he did. So I throw those little
Blazer plus at my house. He calls it Jame Beliza.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
It was awesome. It was awesome, It was big.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
And Brett goes and gets the phone number every single
person was there, including the people who are cleaning up.
We are hard to like clean the place up their
cell phones and texting every one of them, thanking them
for showing up to my party, not even his for
listening to him a three songs. That's just not normal
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in a day and age when hurt people hurt people,
and everybody's so damn hurt because of social media, and
people ask about our relationship. And this is why having
a guy like Brett, no matter where you are, no
matter how gray I am, no matter how dark I'm stuck,
you shine that blue light through to everybody, and you
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didn't need a thing for me or anybody there. And
I've seen it over and over and over and over.
It was just that authenticity. So if I can give
advice to any aspiring performer out there, it's that authenticity
that Brett has. Gratitude, be grateful to people. And I know, look,
it's easy for me to say because I've been a
dick and I've been in an asshole and I just,
you know, get caught up. And I told my wife Rosie,
(27:45):
I want to learn from Brett. I want to be
more like Brett.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
You're gonna make you're trying to make me cry. Aren't
you you're doing You're about to do it.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I got misty for it, Derem mc bryan.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
That goes I'm gonna say this now, Jay, thank you,
and that every bit of that goes back to you.
We were a brother now but we and I tell you,
I say this to everybody, say to my kids, to
my daughters. I said, please be whatever it takes, find
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a way to be grateful. And I'm talking you and
me have taken some hits. We've been thrown some some
sucker punches. I've been sucker punched, a stabbed in the back,
and it takes a lot to stay not bitter. I
state my piece. I know the people in my life
that I need to let go, and I know the
people I want to stay. But coming to your party,
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you threw the best damn party. I was grateful to
be there. I got to I whipped out that guitar
on that crazy driveway, climbed the hill, brought that guitar in,
and we listened to some of the best at a
key singing in history. And it was the only person
that sang more out of key at a lacrosse game
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in San Diego was Drew Brees right, Yes, I got
I'm gonna send that to you. It's he's the best,
and he really is passionate about it, and he's knocking
it out little every rowse as it's thorn, and it
was I'm like, man, that that took it to a
whole new level of awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Man. Look, I know you're on the road here. I'm
gonna let you go here. But before I let you go,
I do have to tell people he's a rock star,
the most rock story thing I've ever heard from you ever.
Uh oh, tell them what your daughter's job was, Rain,
when she was like eight nine years old at your conference.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Uh oh, you mean grabbing the brawls from the stage.
You can't make Rains like that. You don't think this
hasn't messed me up for now that the therapy build
for that, which I thought was hilarious after a few drinks,
I'm like Rain, listen, collect all the brawls off the stage.
I'm not a bad dad. Jay. You got to tell him,
I'm a My daughter now when I come to your parties,
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has to draw I'm me home.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yes, she does lie right, that's my fault, that's my fault. Right,
you're bad, my bad.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
But Raid's job. But she's eight or nine years she
was telling me, she goes. My job is to go
pick up my bras and undies on the stage. One
Dad will perform like I did not make her. I
need to go in record second, here go on records.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
They what I'm going on record to say I did
not make her or tell her to do that? She
hold on here, I got a low power. That's my
life story right there, mid old, my finest speech, and
my batteries about to die. But and by the way,
this shirt I am tubing in the yellow Breeches Creek Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania.
That's why these things. I'm literally floating.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
What does that have to do with the bras and
the undies? Get back, get back?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
You know I have a d Yeah, yeah, all right,
I'm back, squirrel. No, I'm back the uh so anyway, yes,
Raine jobs, She's like Dad. As she got older, I
collected brawls and panties and crazy people jumping up on
the stage and then your crew would move them over
to the side. I never threw anyone out. So crazy
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people get up party and then they're like party. She goes, Dad,
they're partying with me, trying to get me. I go,
I didn't make you do any of that. I want
to go on record. I did not make her collect
the brawl.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Rain is as straight and arrow as you get. So
it worked. You scanned her straight, is what happened.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
That's exactly why I meant to do it. I'm a
good dad.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I snore father the decade.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Here here, Brett, I know you performed.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Brother. I appreciate you joining me, dude. I love you
with all my partner. I appreciate you giving us an
inside look on what it's like of the business of
music and being a rock star.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Absolutely, Jay, I love you. It's right here. I'm just
telling you and uh and please just I'll see you
back soon, very soon. I'll bring rain in them to
drive us back, and we're about to slow down.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I love Brett Michaels, I love you only. I love
a brother, Love everybody,
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental Wealth podcast
Build you from the inside out. Now here's Jay Glacier.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome in to Unbreakable, a mental Wealth podcast with Jay Glazer.
I'm Jay Glazer and joining me now. If you follow
my Instagram, you see that I go big and my
glazier palooz is at my house. I don't have just
anybody play music. I don't just use the shit out
of my friends for nothing. I gotta go and throw
these extravagant glazier ploos is. The star of news is
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the man joining me now, my brother. And one of
the greatest things about doing this podcast is I met
this man the first time he was on my podcast,
and he truly has become one of the best friends
I've ever had in my life. You know, nothing but
a good time. Yes, probably Noma's the guy who've broken
up to a girl with over a song every rose.
How's this story? One and only? Brett Michaels.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Oh right, brother, Jay, my brother, I'm doing awesome, man.
It is great to see you. And we've had many jayapaloosas,
and a few of them that we actually remember, which
is good.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yes, well barely vaguely. Let me tell you guys about it.
So you guys, I was in no Brett one of
the biggest recruiting artists in the world. But also Brett,
as time has gone on here has gotten more successful,
and I want to kind of dive into him what
he's done. And he always kind of reinvents himself and
builds up more and builds up Moore. The Brandon gets
burger so much so that he played at the main
concert at the Indy five hundred a couple of weeks
(01:29):
ago that was broadcast on Fox, and it's like, man,
there was hundreds of thousands of people there. He just
gets bigger. With Tom He's like, okamis wine. So I
want to kind of dive into that with him. But
before we get that, folks, let me tell you how
big Brett Michaels is. I take Brett to Steelers camp
because that's what friends do.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And I love you for it, Jay, I love you
for it. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Here we are Pittsburgh Steelers camp, and Brett grew up
in Pittsburgh. Outside of Pittsburgh, he grew up going to
Steelers camp outside the fence. Put his little kid. I'm like,
I got you. I'm gonna bring you in with Mike Tomlin,
not that whole thing, and we bring them the Steelers camping.
After we go to a bar in La Trope. So
it's me him, Mike Tomlin, head coach of the Steelers.
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This is the head coach of the Steelers. People could
care less that Mike Tomlin was sitting at that bar
called Dino's. There was a line out the door for
Brett Michaels. I'm like, this is supposed to be an
NFL bar and NFL camp. They could care less. But
you know, Brett, you know what that is because the
authenticity of the guy that you are. I think it's
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just brought you all this love throughout the years and
it continues to just build like that.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, Jay, first of all, thank you that day to
this second second here with you, one of the best
days of my life. You have to understand. First of all,
I want to go on the record, Jay, I love
you for the build up, but that is not true.
They loved you, they love Mike. They were crawling over
The problem was I was standing in front of you
and Mike, so they had to crawl over me to
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get to you. Guys, right, they were just moving me
out of the way. I was just accepting the love
as it came by, right. But we went to camp
that day and dude, you we talked about this a lot.
I since my childhood, especially around six years old getting
diagnosed with being diabetic, sports has been such an important
part of my life. Saved my life and music. And
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we used to go there with my dad, my sisters.
We would stand on the other side of the fence
and you know, I'm talking about I've got pictures of me.
I've shown you. Joe Green in the background, Lambert Terry
Bradshaw came over and said hello. Terry was super cool.
And then all of a sudden, to be there with you,
with Mike Tomlin throwing ball, talking to TJ, talking to
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just it was just it was awesome. And then I stole,
I'm not gonna lie to you. I borrowed a couple
of the practice balls. They managed to make it into
my RV which I'm traveling around in. Now, you know,
an ABD outdoorsman. So the uh, I just wanted to
say a couple.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Of talking about that. By the way, they start a
mini camp, but they can't practice because they got no balls.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You know, hey, it's said boom, what happened on?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Now we know the crime has been solved.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Tell the Rooney's I'm good for it.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Aaron Rodgers shows up and he's like, dude, there's no
balls to throw the balls.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'm not kidding. I took a couple. I'm not gonna
hide you. They managed to disappear, right, but the Rooneys know.
I'm good for it. I'm coming clean out. I'm gonna
buck up on those all right dinos. I think it
was one of the bars in Latrobe and that was
one of the best. I'm telling you. I got some pictures.
We'll post them up again of the uh we'll just
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say no letters.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Video of me and Mike t going what this dude,
No one even knows you're here, my team coach. They
could care less. He's like, all good, broke, all good.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You know him, I'll go it was awesome. And his
son Mason there, Mason comes out on stage with me
all the time. He's a great musician.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Opens up for Brett Michaels. Now it's sometimes on the road.
How cool is that?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
It's amazing and that folks, I want you to hear
this that's the way.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
One of the times I try and do his life.
I try and connect people, and I try and connect
good people with good people. And all I did was
I asked Brett to sit with Mason. Hey, he's a
rising recording artist. Can you sit with him. I've known
him since he was zero, and can you just help him,
you know, give him some advice along way. It's all
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I was trying to do. And you sat with him,
and you went above me on and you saw something
in me like, not only am I going to after
you're sitting with him, not only do I have this viceroom, Mason,
I'm gonna have you open up for me in Pittsburgh
and several other places. It was a win win for all.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It was great. And I told you, I think, knowing
this about you but about me as well, I don't
say something I'm not gonna do. So I told Mason,
I said, and he's like, are you serious? We're gonna
be start like at the Amphitheater on the Party Grawl tour.
And he he killed it. I mean he walked out there.
He was such a pro The crowd got fired up
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and boom, we went into it and it was just
we do it every year. The party were at three
point zero now party grawl, Party grawl, three point zero.
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So that's what I want to get into, correct because
a lot of guys, you know, they have their their
hits and they as they get older, certain guys kind
of can float away and oblivion. Certain guys trying to
reinvent themselves. You see different things. But you have almost
found this fountain of youth in this party, Gras. And
it's not just you, but the names you bring up
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there with you when I talk about, hey, you know
the way you your loyalty is about a give give right.
What can you do for someone without expecting someone something back?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
That's that's would be a loyalist. And it seems like
that has given back to you tenfold. But tell me, like,
what are I begin with this? So again, folks till
like Brett'll do these concerts now we calls the party
grop and give us an idea of who's out there
with you, but also kind of how you decided to
evolve into that from just you know, going solo by
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yourself or when you're with poison to what it's become now.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And why so a couple of reasons. One. So, first
of all, let me start with my brothers in Poison,
Bobby cc Ricky, they're my friends, they're my brothers. I
am grateful. I wouldn't be here talking to you if
it wasn't for us together in a small town out
of Mechanics Purt Pennsylvania, getting together, selling everything we own,
getting in a van and driving to Los Angeles. Live
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behind a dry cleaner. There's no lie. I think we've
talked about this many times. I'd live behind a dry
cleaner in downtown LA. And that loyalty amongst us has
been fantastic. Now we do it with Poison about every
four years. We did eighteen, then we did the stadium
tour in twenty two, and then we'll do it again
here in a few you're it'll be amazing. But the
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solo careers, because if anyone watches any of my socials,
I'll go from Indie where we just broke poisons record
with the Brett Michaels band. So Poison set the record
twenty thirteen sixty eight thousand, and we just did a
little over eighty five thousand, and I told them round
it up to eighty six. We rounded it down to
(08:24):
eighty five. I go, no, no, don't round me down,
round me up. You go, And I want to tell
you something. Working it's about having great relationships in the
business I'm in. It's about moving parts. It's about so
many moving parts every minute of every day, from doing
an interview to drawing out what you want to set
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to be to knowing the band you want on it.
The first words out of my mouth is I need
to call the artists myself. I'm like, this is about
us having in order for the fans to have a
great time, the band's got to have a great time.
I can only work off sincerity because everyone comes out
with me is playing real live music, in other words,
where the instruments are live, the show's live. And so
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it starts like that, and then I literally drew this.
I'll make you laugh when you see the drawling. I
drew it on a piece of paper, Neanderthal style, right
on my Hillbilly hard drive. That's why I call it paper.
And my pen drew out the stage where we were
going to go, what side the artist would come out on.
And then you find the right people around me, the ton.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
People who've been who you've had to perform with you
in a basic party round.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
So it's so basically, here's here's D Snyder born on
the same day as me, March fifteenth. So D Snyder
from Twisted Sister. So I go three songs into my set.
I say, I'd love to hear a Twisted Sister song.
I land pyro goes de Snyder comes out those three hits,
he lands. Mark McGrath from Sugar Ray born on the
same day he plays music. Chris Jansen, a huge country
(09:59):
star right now, comes out, starts doing buy Me a Boat.
Then Don Felder from the Eagles, Lou Graham from Foreigner Bans.
Want to hear kit after kid after kid, and that's
what we bring him, just an absolute party.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So what got you to say, Hey, this is you know,
sometimes the best ideas are so simple, it's brilliant, but
no one dots thought of it. But you what got
you to think of that idea?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
So it was a simple I wanted to have a
show where instead of the bands, they do a set,
then they shut down for a half hour, then they
have another band, and at the end of the night
one of them may join you. Right, I said, what
if we do this. Every band that's going to open,
like Don Felder from the Eagles. I mean, you're talking
about the guy's written some of the biggest songs in history.
(10:45):
He's the nicest guy in the world. He does his
Eagles hits, then he comes and joins me on stage.
Then all of a sudden, you have Night Ranger out there, right,
you got Chris Jansen out there, Jeffersons Starship, and then
I'm mixing country, rock, hop, you name it. When I
did Boardwalk Rock a couple of weeks ago in Ocean City, Maryland,
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it's all the bands fuel lit, every band that's been
friends of mine forever coming up on stage and just
killing it, and they join me and we either do
one of their songs they do one of mine. But that,
to me, Jay is what music's always been about. When
we're setting it at jay Apaloos on your patio, which
is amazingly awesome looking over an ocean, I won't mention
(11:27):
which ocean, right it is. You set the tone of
that party. And I told you that the first time
I ever met you. You set a tone. You welcome
people in that door. We feel welcome. We break out
the guitar, we listen to Sean McVay saying the most
horrible version of every Rose ever, but we love him.
Then he had remember me and him wrestle.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yes, and Cliff King broke it up. Yes, yes, but
it was and Cliff, it just go back to what
spawned the idea. In the first play, you're saying how
great it is, but what gave you the idea?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
So the idea was just it was simple, bringing out
friends of mine that I could join, they could join
me on stage, that we're willing hear me out to
let my solo band be the music. So my solo
band put in all the work. Pete Evick and my
band put in all the work to learn every song
from Foreigner, every song from the Eagles, every song from
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Sugar Ray, whoever's joining me, right, they learn them. So
that the idea was to come out and seamlessly. You know,
most times you have to stop down. The audience is
kind of like, okay, they're waiting. You're in the middle
about to you know, rock the world, and all of
a sudden you got to stop down and change drummers,
drum kit. We didn't want to do that, and so
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the idea was it was seamless, and that's what happened.
They came up. My band is one big band, and
they come out and three songs in, I'll finish say
nothing but a good time. I land on the ground.
Piro goes up. I throw the microphone and all of
a sudden d Snyder singing I want to rock right
and we're not going to take it. Then he singing
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Highway to Hell, throws the microphone back to me, and
then I go up. And most of the time I
stay on stage and play guitar or congos, you know
what I mean? Who, by the way, Bill jumped out
on us? On you? Bill Richer's supposed to be up
there on that stage.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Is our producer at Foxonville Sunday. So topics to become
a big business for you. But what I didn't understand
until I talked to you more, there's so much more
business than just what you see. Hey, tickets people are
showing up. There's you have a hand in concessions and
shirts and merchandise and all that. How did you educate
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yourself on what you should be getting, what should be
produced and then you can have a stake in that.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
That's actually a very that's a great question.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
So that's what I do.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You do great questions. So here's the real answer. The
first book I ever read, ever read about the entertainment
business called get It in Writing, So it told you
everyone loves your babe, you're the best come out. We're
going to take care of you. If you don't have
that in writing, good luck at the end of the show.
(14:15):
So we go in there and the first thing we
did from ground zero that was a blessing for Poison.
We kept all of our publishing except for what's called
an admin deal and administration deal, so on all of
our songs, the masters, the songs, the publishing we own.
So when those songs go anywhere they're played except for
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a ten percent administration deal that Bobby and myself worked
on in getting with the band Ricky and CC. And
so that's an important part is own. These are all
like our children, every song, whether solo or Poison. Owning that,
then I own my own merchandise. So and everyone wanted
to give you an advance. Here's where they get you, Jay.
(14:57):
When you're starving and you're living in a warehouse, they
send you a limousine and a contract this big, and
you haven't eaten two weeks. It looks pretty exciting, and
it happens. It happens to so many great artists, and
we just held out and said, nope, I'm starving anyway.
And we just went through the deals and the deals,
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and we finally just decided the keyword bet on ourself.
So there was no big glory day when our first
record came out. I was in El Segundo, California. There
was no massive party. I love to tell you there was.
You know, they sent a private jet, there was a limo.
I was setting in probably leather pants, thinking there might
(15:40):
be some kind of a party on the warehouse floor
in El Segundo. No lie shrink wrapping cassettes and albums
in a line with my band on a cold out table.
That's I'm not making that up. We were an independent
record and then we went in in our first video.
We put the money together for Cry Tough and Talk
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Dirty to Me, and we went in there and Talk
Dirty to Me became a top ten single, and we
were the first independent band to sell over three million. Guy,
it was unheard of, like most independent bands sell ten thousand.
Back in the day when it was actual product. You
know what I mean. But my work method for everything
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everything is have fun, get it done, have passion, purpose
and take care of people. That's it. And make sure
again profit. Don't ever be embarrassed to make a profit
at what you do. You're kicking ass h. No, I'm
just saying I'm sorry, I'm spitting it out, but it's
not close to my heart. It's what happens to so
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many bands. An example, if you think about looking at
an arena and you get an offer, what you got
to look at as the GP. So you're looking at
the gross potential of what that building holds a sell
out and I'm thinking, well, if they're booking me in
this size of a building, hedding on being a sellout.
So I take a guarantee versus the back end of
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the deal so that everyone has skin in the game.
If you don't have people with skin in the game,
they don't need to do anything. There's no if ten
people show up, they made money because there's no skin
in the game. And so you want people to be
invested both yourself. You've got to make good partnerships with
the promoters.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
But is there I guess the question I'm asking you
is like so if I was doing this, I know
I'm going to get a gate, but I wouldn't know. Hey,
I could create an energy drink and sell it or
a water or how much do I get from shirts
who are like, hey, you're not going to produce the shirts.
I'm going to produce the shirts. I guess how did
you educate yourself on all that other part of the business?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
This sounds strange, very simple. I have a quick learning curve,
so I only got to get sucker punched and jaw
wat learn burn once and I'm learned. I call it.
I'm learned. I just I said, wait a minute, why
don't I just giving me a small advance against my
own shirts and image and likeness. I'm like, why don't
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I just take to bet on my again? I know
it's a generic term, but it's really true, bet on yourself.
So I bet on me. There was no big advance,
but it paid three hundred times that owning. When you
own your content as much as you can, that's anyone
will tell you. Content is king.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Relationships are everything too, so everything right for everything. Who
was the best rocker for business advice when you were
coming up?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
So, honest to God, are you ready for this. One
of the best. As I was breaking into the business,
one of the best piece of advice I ever got
was from my friend E Sneyer. He's like, look, I've
been through the highs the lows his album that come
out before ours, you know, and he just said, here's
some great things to do, and here here's some things
you don't want to do, and he had to live them.
(18:58):
I had to live them, and it was some of
the best advice ever. And I got to give credit
to the members of Poison as well as my solo band,
you know, PD my guitar and my music directory is
our buddy, but smart business guy. But when we hit
that stage, we are hell on fire. Like we every
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bit of my love, every bit of my anger, passion.
I've been a listen. I'm a pink human pin cushion.
I have over a million injections, five shots and days
since I've been six. And I take that pent up,
crazy anger, a little touch of you know, ADHD. I
take all that stuff and when I get that ability
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to go on stage, the most important thing I could
tell you is I am forever grateful, forever I look out.
I'm a fan of music, and I look out at
the indie, eighty five thousand people rocket in the heat, partying,
and there's not one moment out one second that I'm
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not grateful for every person there. And I'm a fan.
So I brought all American rejects in their entire family
out on stage with me, where Bill skipped out. By
the way, I had a whole congo set up, and
all she had to do was put on that leather
thong we asked him to wear.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
No no, no, no thanks.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
He turned it down. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So this is why I'm gonna tell you a story
of that a legend affected me. And that's why I
kind of went, I'm gonna tell you this story. And
see it's another and he's a legend, but you have
another like icon that man. This happened one day and
he said this. So the guy who got me to
be an NFL insider, see you throughout America is running
a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
That's who. By the way, I don't think you ever
told you the story. You haven't, so let me say this,
but one of the best to ever do it, one
of the most dedicated, but go pleeple.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
One of the one of the most feared defenders of
all time ever, you know, Hall of Famer for the
forty nine ers. I didn't work a run. I was
just fronts of them. And Ronnie came to me in
two thousand and two or three two and said, Jay,
you have what people want. They want information, so back
then they weren't and a FORLL insigners there was you know,
(21:14):
the Internet had just kind of come out a few
years earlier, and I was the first minute, five minute
breaking news down in this country with a guy named
Lynn Pascarelli and Chris Mortensen and John Clayton. But he says,
what you should do. Have your agent because I was
working at CBS, but I was behind the scenes and
they would come on the NFL today a CBS say, oh,
Jay Glazer has broken this and this it is our
inside of Jay Glazer is reporting this. Jumn answers say that.
(21:37):
But I would break stuff on the internet. He said,
have your agent call fifty of the top markets in America.
Offer up. You go to a studio every Tuesday or Wednesday, Monday,
whatever and offer up to be their NFL insider for
their team or that market. So Atlanta, Saint Louis Los Angeles,
(21:59):
Oh Clinton, New York, Philly hits for all of it
and charging five hundred bucks a clip. And back then
I was making nothing and it was Ronnie's idea, and
I believe we got twenty markets each week. Five hundred
dollars was a clip. The crazy part was they were
(22:20):
all Fox markets, every.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Fox station's that's all Fox Sports Net.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Doing best dance sports show period, even though I was
working for CBS. But CBS doesn't put me on the air,
so that Fox saw me. Ronnie Law. I owe my
career to Ronnie Law. So do you have a story
that's kind of like that where, oh my god, Rock
Icon had told you this.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yeah. So again, I want to say this because one
of the probably greatest people in my life, who has
since passed away, was of all the people, see, I
know you're looking for the eye because in musician world,
it's a it's a different thing than having someone sit
down there. There's not a lot of mentoring. I'm one
(23:08):
of the few people that once I work with every
young band, I want nothing from them. So but what
happened was is there was a manager's name was Howard Kaufman, right,
and he worked with irving as off and we went in.
We met different management to partner with us, and he
(23:29):
was the best. He was a diabetic like myself, and
he couldn't have been more straightforward, more honest, told me
what to watch out for, what to do, what not
to do. He would tell you, Brett out know what
you read. Because I'm excited. I'm a musician. I'm like,
I want to fucking play right, I'm like, I want
to go play music. And he said, just yes, that
will happen. Take a breath, because this contract you're about
(23:53):
to sign, you have to sell five hundred million records
to make thirty eight cents like this contry. Look at
these back pains. It was real. I was blessed like
you o' ronnie, you know what I mean? At the
farm print, yes, look at and he he watched out
and he never ever ever stepped in. He wasn't a
(24:14):
step in front of the mic. Guy, He wasn't I
need to be on stage. He said, this is what
you do. But he gave great advice to all the
members of Poison and myself and to this day, the
last I won't get emotional on you like I did
last time. But at his funeral was me and Steven
Tyler where the last to stand over his grave and
(24:35):
laid the dirt on it. You know what I mean,
the last to shovel. I know that sounds, but I
was waiting until everyone. I wasn't going till and Steven
said I'm not going either, and he would tell you
that story. We stood there and just sprinkled the last
bit of dirt on it. Because he'd helped Aerosmith with
some great stuff, too interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
He said, there's not a lot of mentor, but you
do give me your top piece of advice for aspiring.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Perform Number one, top piece of advice more than any
other thing, I repeat over and over when I say
bet on yourself. No one is going to believe in
Jay Glazer until Jay Glazer believes in Jay Glazer. No
one's going to believe in Brett Michaels until Brett Michaels
believes it. And then when you bet on yourself, you
(25:24):
can adjust and adapt to anything. Number Two, there's a
couple got to go with it. So if you don't
have the passion for what you're doing in the music business,
you're screwed. You know what I mean, You're just you're
you're ready on a bad path, right. Same with sports.
I mean sports is you know, sports has saved my life.
So and I can say this, the most important thing
(25:47):
in the end, so that you're never bitter, never bitter,
don't carry that with you is have fun, surround yourself
with great people and get it done. You got like
when we met, we instantly knew there was this awesome
friendship and connection that went beyond words. We were great friends.
(26:08):
We've been to highs and lows. And I think that
that's surrounding yourself with great people. It takes a village,
it takes a team. You know, you don't have someone
blocking for you on the line as a quarterback, You're
not going to last long in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I think what separates you, man, is that look. In
order for you to be a star, you gotta be selfish.
And you were the most selfless dude. I know it
self lists you cared so much about folks. Let me
tell you what he did. So I throw those little
Blazer plus at my house. He calls it Jame Beliza.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
It was awesome. It was awesome, It was big.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
And Brett goes and gets the phone number every single
person was there, including the people who are cleaning up.
We are hard to like clean the place up their
cell phones and texting every one of them, thanking them
for showing up to my party, not even his for
listening to him a three songs. That's just not normal
(27:02):
in a day and age when hurt people hurt people,
and everybody's so damn hurt because of social media, and
people ask about our relationship. And this is why having
a guy like Brett, no matter where you are, no
matter how gray I am, no matter how dark I'm stuck,
you shine that blue light through to everybody, and you
(27:22):
didn't need a thing for me or anybody there. And
I've seen it over and over and over and over.
It was just that authenticity. So if I can give
advice to any aspiring performer out there, it's that authenticity
that Brett has. Gratitude, be grateful to people. And I know, look,
it's easy for me to say because I've been a
dick and I've been in an asshole and I just,
you know, get caught up. And I told my wife Rosie,
(27:45):
I want to learn from Brett. I want to be
more like Brett.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
You're gonna make you're trying to make me cry. Aren't
you you're doing You're about to do it.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I got misty for it, Derem mc bryan.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
That goes I'm gonna say this now, Jay, thank you,
and that every bit of that goes back to you.
We were a brother now but we and I tell you,
I say this to everybody, say to my kids, to
my daughters. I said, please be whatever it takes, find
(28:18):
a way to be grateful. And I'm talking you and
me have taken some hits. We've been thrown some some
sucker punches. I've been sucker punched, a stabbed in the back,
and it takes a lot to stay not bitter. I
state my piece. I know the people in my life
that I need to let go, and I know the
people I want to stay. But coming to your party,
(28:39):
you threw the best damn party. I was grateful to
be there. I got to I whipped out that guitar
on that crazy driveway, climbed the hill, brought that guitar in,
and we listened to some of the best at a
key singing in history. And it was the only person
that sang more out of key at a lacrosse game
(29:00):
in San Diego was Drew Brees right, Yes, I got
I'm gonna send that to you. It's he's the best,
and he really is passionate about it, and he's knocking
it out little every rowse as it's thorn, and it
was I'm like, man, that that took it to a
whole new level of awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Man. Look, I know you're on the road here. I'm
gonna let you go here. But before I let you go,
I do have to tell people he's a rock star,
the most rock story thing I've ever heard from you ever.
Uh oh, tell them what your daughter's job was, Rain,
when she was like eight nine years old at your conference.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Uh oh, you mean grabbing the brawls from the stage.
You can't make Rains like that. You don't think this
hasn't messed me up for now that the therapy build
for that, which I thought was hilarious after a few drinks,
I'm like Rain, listen, collect all the brawls off the stage.
I'm not a bad dad. Jay. You got to tell him,
I'm a My daughter now when I come to your parties,
(29:59):
has to draw I'm me home.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yes, she does lie right, that's my fault, that's my fault. Right,
you're bad, my bad.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
But Raid's job. But she's eight or nine years she
was telling me, she goes. My job is to go
pick up my bras and undies on the stage. One
Dad will perform like I did not make her. I
need to go in record second, here go on records.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
They what I'm going on record to say I did
not make her or tell her to do that? She
hold on here, I got a low power. That's my
life story right there, mid old, my finest speech, and
my batteries about to die. But and by the way,
this shirt I am tubing in the yellow Breeches Creek Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania.
That's why these things. I'm literally floating.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
What does that have to do with the bras and
the undies? Get back, get back?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
You know I have a d Yeah, yeah, all right,
I'm back, squirrel. No, I'm back the uh so anyway, yes,
Raine jobs, She's like Dad. As she got older, I
collected brawls and panties and crazy people jumping up on
the stage and then your crew would move them over
to the side. I never threw anyone out. So crazy
(31:12):
people get up party and then they're like party. She goes, Dad,
they're partying with me, trying to get me. I go,
I didn't make you do any of that. I want
to go on record. I did not make her collect
the brawl.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Rain is as straight and arrow as you get. So
it worked. You scanned her straight, is what happened.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
That's exactly why I meant to do it. I'm a
good dad.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I snore father the decade.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Here here, Brett, I know you performed.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Brother. I appreciate you joining me, dude. I love you
with all my partner. I appreciate you giving us an
inside look on what it's like of the business of
music and being a rock star.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Absolutely, Jay, I love you. It's right here. I'm just
telling you and uh and please just I'll see you
back soon, very soon. I'll bring rain in them to
drive us back, and we're about to slow down.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I love Brett Michaels, I love you only. I love
a brother, Love everybody,
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