May 15, 2024 • 39 mins
Welcome to Unbreakable! A mental health podcast hosted by Fox NFL Insider Jay Glazer. While you are listening to this podcast, I am in on my honeymoon with the love of my life Rosie Tenison. Waiting 54 years for my soulmate is proof that it’s never too late to true find love. Enjoy a very special encore presentation of Part 2 with Rosie!!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast
build you from the inside out. Now here's Jay Glacier.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome into a very special Unbreakable and Mental Wealth podcast
with Jay Glazer. I'm Jay Glazer, and this is the
most special guest I've ever had on in my entire life.
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(00:57):
Mental Wealth Podcast with Jay Glazer.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
As you're listening to the.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I am in Italy on my honeymoon, Yes, my honeymoon,
but I want to make sure we had some content
here for all of you who've been walking this walk
together with me for.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
The last few years doing this podcast, but.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Also walking this walk with now my wife Rosie Tennis
and I now.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Last week we had part one.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
This week is part two of a podcast where I
really hope you can enjoy and be lifted up by
a lot of the lessons that Rosie has to offer
up from her life, the things she's overcome. She's really
excelled from a girl who grew up in a tidy
little place in Millanora in Idaho to getting to the
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hot top of Hollywood and creating a business where she
started with one Kiosk hit a mall in Idaho and
then two, then four, then one brick and mortar store,
than thirty stores. But also a lot of things we've
done and she's helped me with with my mental health journey.
If I didn't have all the work that I've had
on myself last few years, and if I didn't have
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all of you to do this with, I wouldn't have
really gotten the tools to be in this relationship and
to be on my honeymoon right now.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I would have sabotaged. I would have pushed away.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I would have done everything I've done the past to
ruin every other relationship I ever had Rosie.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
So I hope you can enjoy Part two of Rosie
Tennyson our podcast as we're enjoying our honeymoon. I hope
you could all enjoy our journey with us. The way
this came about is wonderful. People over at Fox Sports
Radio and a lot of people out there have said, man,
we have never seen you better. We've never seen a
(02:38):
better version of Jay Glazer. And I said, well, Rosie's
really the reason why. My beautiful fiance, Rosie Tennyson, She's why.
And you know, I finally, after all these years, found a.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Partner who could really lift me up. But I feel comfortable,
it's safe for the first time in my life.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And they said, great, let's get Rosie and I said, no, now, now, now,
I'm not getting Rosie on, Absolutely not. And they said,
do you know how many people you could help and
give hope to if the two of you came on
and just talked about not only Rosie's life, which is unbelievable,
like she's the reality show of all reality shows and
the success story of success stories for all little girls
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out there trying to make it, but also just the
hope that we can give people that it's never too
late to find love, and also to give people insight
into what she does to help me when my crazy
gets out of control, when my gray gets really dark
and deep, what she does to help lift me up
and to be there for me.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So I am this better version.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So this is for Don and Scott m Horri and
Justin and everybody else out there who has said this.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Is the best version of Jay Glazers they've seen. Everybody.
Welcome my beautiful fiance, Rosie Tennyson.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Thank you, babe.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Introduction, It is quite the introduction.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And so what was your favorite acting modeling job? And now,
like she'll come up with and by the way, here's
the thing that the crazy part.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Rosie ended up.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Graduating, ohla in broadcasting, Yeah, broadcast journalism because she wants
to be a sports reporter.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yeah right.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Know this until a year ago, Like hello, Like, Rosie,
how do you fail to tell me this? And then
tells me she was a researcher in Fox Sports in
the early nineties, like the same thing I did, but
to start my career at CBS logging game tape.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
And I'm like, I'm telling.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
You why now we saw playmate sitting there doing and
she is over there on the research.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
You're like you you got a kid me and like again,
she doesn't tell me this till like recently.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Like oh, by the way, long, I was only there
for a couple of weeks and that I ended up
like like going on to what I do now.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
But it was fun.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
It was oh so okay, okay, okay, so you do that.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And then after that, you know, I've told you guys,
it's it's never too late to make a change, right,
I've talked about this. You've changed your life in the
fraction of a second, and you decide to you decided
to get out of modeling all together, you and your
sister together at your height, right.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Well, yeah, we had we modeled for years and years
and years.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
But then after a while I kind of was like,
you know what, I kind of just the I just
lost the thrill and wanted to do something else.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
So I remember I was thinking, gosh, what could I do?
What can I do?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
And then I was watching this Oprah show called Find
Your Passion and they were like telling you if you
could do anything, and a genie came down and said, hey,
you know you could do whatever you want.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
It's not no one's telling you you don't have the experience,
you're too old, or this or that. What would you do?
Speaker 6 (05:39):
And my sister and I were like, we would probably
do something in fashion because we used to like design
our own clothes and all this stuff. So that's what
we kind of were like, well, wait, what.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
If we did something in fashion?
Speaker 6 (05:49):
What if we start like a clothing company, which was
like something we never would have thought of or never
would have even allowed ourselves to even dream to do.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
And like, slowly but surely we started like you know.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So you but how old are you are this time
you to reinvent yourself?
Speaker 5 (06:03):
It was like probably in your thirties.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, you decided, and your thirties you're going to completely
reinvent your whole life and whole career.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, so I want people to hear that too. That's great,
that's never that.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Extra, yeah, because it's a completely different than what we
were doing.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
So we just started off like small, and we got
like a little.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Kiosk and like this is you know, Kiosk in Idaho,
which but we were flying back and so Kiosk.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
In them all in Idaho and you were so you
started selling clothes.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
We were doing accessories the question.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, you were defining them.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Making those little lot rhine start jewelry and stuff like that.
It was like a little crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
So it started there.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Yeah, it started small, and then we like, you know,
several kiosks, and then a friend of ours was telling us, hey,
you know you should combine these into like one store.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
But you were still living here. Did you move back to.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Fly back and forth?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
So you fly back and forth and you just have
people run those kiosks?
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Yeah, yeah, okay, And then we ended up getting our
first brick and mortar in Santa Monica. This is like
a very sex store, which was like like the start
of like and.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Their store is called Varga.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
It's called Vargo, yeah, and it was.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Named after Alberto Varga, who.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Was the Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
He does like the pennant drawings from like the fifties,
and it's like it's really cool because it was like
a really cool time like when women were like very
fashionable and they were dressed really like Elizabeth Taylor, Marilyn
Monroe or Rodrey Hepburn. So it's inspired by that kind
of concept, right.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And then so then you get one brick and mortar,
and you have since gone on to build this empire
of how many brick and mortars.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
We've opened thirty vargas over the course since since then,
since we started, Yeah, thirty stores again a little crazy,
no thirty stores.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But again, Han, I love you to go from these
two little girls we're making a dollar an hour working
in these fields of topping corn and hoe and beats
and getting their dad stealing the money from them, to
going out and having a very successful get an app
off that farm, and I having a very successful career
(08:02):
in modeling and doing authentically and not having to sell
your soul for it, and then in your thirties to
say we're going to pivot and do something completely different
and build something that big on it is incredible.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Thank you, It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And Rosie has a hard time with realizing how successful
she's been, how magnificent that is. Like this is the
same two girls who have their arms draped around them
in Idaho watching the cars drive to la and you
have both done that. If that ain't the American dream page,
I don't know what it is. And if that ain't
two girls saying I don't care what Uphill battles we have,
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we are going to overcome them and make our dreams
come true.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Can you give yourself a little grace and love yourself up?
Speaker 5 (08:50):
For I can love myself up.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Yeah, it's hard to give yourself credit, I guess for
all the work because we were always striving to do
more and do more and do more, and then at
some point I was like, wait, you know what, We've
already done so much. Sometimes you kind of just need
to just kick back and like enjoy everything that you've
done and see it.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
But it's sometimes hard to see.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
But that's the thing that's a huge lesson for everybody.
It's like, that's where we get in problems, is that
we're we want more and more and more and more
and more, and you never get to enjoy it what
you have have, have had that exactly what you've done, done, done, done, done,
Like that's a big thing, and that's a huge thing
that gets in trouble in between our ears, you know,
with anxiety and with the grave.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
We get stuck in the grave because you don't allow
yourself that grace.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
So if yeah I did this, Yeah I've done this,
and it's a it's a huge thing that we now
work on with Rosie so she could start loving herself
for all this. Rosie does it with me, so I
can love myself up for all the different things I've done.
I've reinvented myself five different times, you know, with different
things with businesses, charities, and you know, from NFL to
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MMA to mental health. Now, god, I've you know, reinvented
a bunch. But we really have to love ourselves up
for what we've done.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
All right.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
So now we're gonna shift into how Rosie I met
and we.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Met in COVID.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I had gone to Pittsburgh in a business trip right
before everything shut down. And I come back to my
house and my friend Nicki's Heering is there, who's my assistant?
Time she was Eyeing's Eerring's ex wife and she's done Playboy.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
And prices right with Rosie.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
When I come home and I have the tennis and
twins at my house and they are shift face drunk
just sitting there at my house. I'm like, and I
kne who the tennis and twins were. I didn't expect
to ever see them at my house. I'm like, this
is pretty fantastic right here. And Rosie and I just
became friends in COVID like you know here in La
like no one wants to look at you, and all
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our business were closed down, and a couple of different
times we hung out just as friends. And one night,
NICKI and we're gonna end up going off with this
deep conversation. And I really got to sit there and
talk with Rosie and we started talking about God and
our faith, right and we just started bonding.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
It was about three hours and so.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I shifted over from me as a friend to man,
this woman is fantastic, And I said, can I take
you on a date? And You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we could do that, Okay, But I literally go like
what she said to me that night was just so
different than anything else. And what she said by the
(11:32):
way she had been on I was running an MVP session, right,
I had her come on because she actually wrote Rosie
donated clothes to some of our veterans. She donated a
lot of her equipment her store to a lot of
our veterans, right from merging vets and players. So I said, well,
I'd love to have you come on, and I'd love
for these people to thank you. So come on a
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session on zoom Man. We had about one hundred vets
and players and man, really cool putting them together, and
I'm coaching it.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
And Rosie had said to NICKI.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Oh, yeah, So I was watching the session and Jay
is always the one that's like, you know, leaving the
pack over there and cheering up out, just encouraging everybody
and just really really positive. And I was just I
could see how much he was like helping out everybody,
like he's just like being like this motivational person. So
I was just like, wow, this this guy, he's so amazing.
(12:30):
He takes care of all these people. That's what you
were just like giving, so giving what you're saying. But
I was like, but who takes care of him? That's
what I was just like wondering, because I was like, Wow,
he's so like he's just giving so much for everybody.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
But you know, I was just like, he takes care
of him. And then then after.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, she said it again, she said yes, and then
she says to NICKI again, Hey, remember I said, man,
this guy takes care of so many people, but who
takes care of him?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I think I want to be the one that takes
care of him.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
That very same night, I said to her sister, Renee,
Rose has never been married. She said nope. And that's
the other part we'll tell you about Rosie. She said nope.
I said why, and Renee said, because all she does
is take care of everybody else. She's never given herself time, yeah,
right to take care of anybody. She always takes care
of everybody else. I said, wow, I'm going to marry
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your sister. Literally said that to Renee. Renee's like, okay, yeah, whatever, whatever,
sure you are. And I said, now I'm gonna marry
your sister. And it's the first time I've ever felt
like that my life, first time i'd ever and I
heard what you said from Niki. Then you said, man,
this guy takes care of so many people, but who
takes care of him? I want to be the one
to take care of him. I've just never heard that
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in my life. I've never ever ever heard that.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
And I was like, that's my soul name, my wife.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And again, Rosie here has literally like helped out all
theer brothers get jobs and move them in with her
and helped her sister and her relationship she's just taking
care of everybody else and those thirty stores, and she
just never given herself grace to say it's my turn.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
So I think at one point you said she's not
gonna happen for you. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
It was so like I kind of was so career driven,
and plus I was like, you know, I was kind
of had people, like I was helping out and stuff.
But in doing so, I just looked up and I
was like, wait a second, I realized.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
I was like, I didn't get married, I didn't have
a family.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
It's like, you know, I just at one point I
was kind of depressed because I felt like I had
just missed the boat and I was just it was
too late, and so I was like wait a second,
you know wow. So I remember like thinking like it
was just not going to happen, but it did.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
It's it's never too late, that's what. It's never too late.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Like that's the also started writing down.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Yeah, I started when I oh, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
So I was like just kind of putting out to
the universe what I wanted. So I kept like making
all my passwords. I was like I changed them to
new life. I was wanting a new life.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I was.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I was putting everything like a quite like best life
this life. So I was like kind of thinking in
my head like what I wanted to attract, and it
was so amazing.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Before we met.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, thanks all our path. Yeah, every new life when
we meet twenty twenty. Yeah, new life twenty twenty. Everything
was New Life twenty twenty. It's like if you came,
so instead of you taking.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Care ofbody else wishing, it's wishing.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
First time you allowed myself to say, yeah, I am
worthy of this.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I've got to make a change. Yeah that was big.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Yeah, which was so unlikely, and because I just had
kind of gotten caught in a red of doing the
same thing over and over and over, and so I
was like, you know what, in order for things to change,
I have to change.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
I have to be different.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
So when Nicki called me to come over, that was
something I may not have done. But then instead of
saying no, I started saying yes. I was like, Lok, yeah, yeah,
I'll come over. Yeah, let'say, yeah, I've seen you all.
So but that one, you know, meeting of coming over
to see Nickcki brought me to meet you, which changed
my life. So it's like, you know, you're just like
one person away from like your life changing, or when
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you know, like moment away.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah, that changes your life.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So I did that once for us. I did that
one away as a motivate weekly motivation. I got it
from Rosie. She said, you're one away, You're one meeting
away from changing your life.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
One opportunity, one opportunity, one dinner day, one person.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
You're one away when your life changing, one encounter from
your life changing. And she started believing that, and she was,
and thank God Almighty had happened because we met. So
now our first date, we were closed in covid and
while we were closed, we went down and took a
bottle of wine down by the beach in Santa Monica.
It was pretty hilarious.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
There was a guy with an acoustic guitar sitting and
we're still trying to kind of feel each other out.
And we actually we drove to Malibu for a little bit,
because what a bunch you could do. We came back
to Santa Monica where she lives. I had a bottle
of wine I brought. We sat down there and there
was a guy with an acoustic guitars. So who was like, man,
this is great, this.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Is by the fair about it, very very beautiful.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
It was perfect, and all of a sudden, the guy says, hey,
you to on a first date? He said yeah. He goes,
I got a song for you, and in acoustics.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Sings, Baby's got bad, Baby.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Got back, Baby got back. He said, baby got back,
Oh my god. And I'm like, babe, just you know,
this is how my life is. If something crazy get happened.
This is that what's going to be.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
It's actually really good.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
But I said, you'll always be entertained. Okay. So now
our second date, Santa Barbara was open. I called Troy
Aikman who lives.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
In Santa Barbara, and I say, brother, man, you know
the Tennys and twins. He's like Rosie Renee. I said, yeah,
I know who they are. I said, man, I'm going
on a date with Rosie. He goes, wow, good for you.
I said, but I want to take her to Santa
Barbara because La is not open, and I know you
live there. Is there a restaurant you can get me
into that you love? He goes, I love this Italian restaurant.
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I'll catch you guys in your set. We drive up
to Santa Barbara on our second date. We're in there
and then we go to Lucky's for a little nightcap
over there, and all of a sudden, our phone start
pinging and ringing and ringing, bing it and bring it,
and everybody's like, you're right, You're right, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I'm one of the tennis and twins Santa barbar fantastic.
And her phone's lighting up and then my friend's like, Yo,
you need to come over there. Yo, you need to
come over there. And I'm like, what is going on?
And that was the night of the riots that happened
here in La and her cell phone which shows her
store which was in Santa Monica Place, which shows everybody
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e looting the entire mind, destroys everything.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And that's her main store.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So here we are on our second date and they
are putting her out of business, smashed everything every and
we're just watching it from her phone of them smashing
the windows of the stores next to her.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
They didn't get it. They didn't smash her when there's
two stores. They didn't smash the windows off.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Right everything else.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
No idea why? And I didn't think they knew you
were black O score, but you got scared. But it
didn't matter to put the whole mall out of business.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Rosie.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
It was like intense National Guard was there. It was
just it was really crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And meanwhile, I'm trying to fly back at one o'clock
in the morning and get her there.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
And even though like what are we gonna do?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
But I also want to make sure, like my my
house was safe, and so we ended up getting back there.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Unfortunately, Rosie lost her store.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Yeah, we ended up having to close that store because
the ball it just it's still it's still struggling because
it's just you know.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I still had to pay rent, and then all her
other stores that were closed, she still had to pay
rent for.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
It was COVID was very really hard. Yeah for you right,
really good for sure, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
And here you are in a new relationship and I
was just like, hey, you know, we did for about
ten months or something like that, and I knew, man,
this girl my soulmate.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
She's it for me.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
And Rosie ends up breaking up with me. NFC Championship
game right after, my babe, We're gonna have a whole,
like our whole off season come, We're really going to
work on everything, and she said, no, I'm not coming
home today.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I just we need a break.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I'm like what, she goes, I need to go save
my store and I know you need a lot of
attention in time.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
And the only way I'm going to do this is
I have to do this. I have to go.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I'm going to pull this out of debt. And I'm like, no, no,
I got it. I got I said no, no, and
she's like, I don't want to be like every other
girl and just take from you. I'm going to do
this right.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Well, I mean it was my baby, and I just
was like, I got myself in this mess.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
I'll get myself out. So I just did what I
had to do.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
It really hard time me because I thought she was
my soulmate and man, you know me who my mental
health issues believes like you know, the universe is gonna
come crashing that around me and the sky's falling. Skott
fell that day and it came out of nowhere, and
you just kept telling me, no, we're just didn't take
a break till I get.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Myself out of this. But I'm not having you pay
for it. Yeah. Yeah, And for me, I was very
conflicting because I'm like, yeah, but then you're abandoning me.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Yeah, not like I was like, but I was like, no,
but I'm not. I didn't feel right.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
About like having him take on all this stuff that
wasn't yours, so.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Which no, I don't know another girl who would have
done that.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
They would have just said, okay, yeah, if you can
help me out and take care of it, great, and
she just didn't. And she kept also assuring me this
isn't forever, this is just a break in my mind forever,
that it's no way, and it's the first time I'd
ever been in a tank, really really in the tank,
because I'm like, man, this is like I finally got
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like this, this soul mad of mine, who I did
believe was like set up through God because we are
like you have to get me and you have to
get Rosy, and if you get us, you really understand
how special we are. And we got each other, and
you know, all of a sudden it's gone, and I
don't hear it's just a break. I hear it's forever,
to the point where I said, well, I don't even
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want to be in California anymore. And I'm so heartbroken.
I need to start something for myself, a new life
for myself. And I moved to Arizona, and the day
before I left, Rosie came over to the house to
tell me, Hey, I got my ship straight.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I'm ready to get back.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
And I said, well, if you're going to get back,
it's gonna have to be in Arizona because I've moved.
And that was really hard. Rosie started crying. I don't
see her cry a lot. She started crying, and you know,
I made my decision, and she said, well, I told
you it was just a break. I guess I'll have
to start coming to Arizona. Nobody knows, but you know,
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last football season, every single week Rosie flew to Arizona
from Wednesday, Friday or Saturday every week and fought to
get me back, which was huge, right, yeah, yep, and
eventually said to me, now, backing up here, when Rosie
first did break up with me, I went into this
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horrifically downward spiral. I was already in an odd place
because when I wrote him breakable. People don't know this,
but I stopped all my treatment for my mental health
illness and issues, which was all therapy. I threw a
lot of vitamins and ivs and things like that, and
different therapies. I've usually of three therapists, but I work
at my mental health. I stopped it all to be
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in as darker places I could be. So when I
wrote Unbreakable, it was so authentic. This is what depression
feels like, this is what anxiety feels like, this is
what ADHD feels like.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
And it took a long time to try and get
myself out of that hole.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And I did that for everybody else sitting at home,
so I can describe it and.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Give it word so you will have the words.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
To be able to use moving forward and have conversations
with people.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
So still trying to come out of that. And then
this happened with Rosie.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I really went off the deep end and it forced
me to really go get help that I needed to
change habits.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Forevor and I look now and say, if we didn't break.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Up, we probably wouldn't have made it, because I really learned.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
How in that time. I went to Thailand and I.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Learned a lot of work on yourself, did a lot
of work.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
You did a lot of work on yourself.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
You different, but yeah, but like you weren't worthy of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
there was a yeah different things, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
And you did a lot of work and then you
would you say to me, one day, you're gonna put
your captain's hat on it.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Yeah, this is I was talking about your destiny. When
you're like you're choosing your destiny, it's like you have
to be the one that puts the captain's hat on
and then steer your life the way you want it
to go, even if it's not, you know, initially where
you want it.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
You have to be like on a little you know,
might be a little canoe boat. Then pretty soon you
go to the motor boat.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Then, but you're the one with the ability to take
your life in the direction that you wanted to go
and your destiny, which is what you're really good at
and so on.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
To do that, I say, no, I'm worthy of this now.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
So you could that captain that and say no, I am,
I'm going to steer my boat into Jay's waters. And
for me, I went to Thailand and I learned how
to heal that little kid of me, how to feel
like the universe wasn't against me. And really there I
understood I've been putting all this pain for all these
years so I could help others through THEIRS. And Rose
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and I were talking that we weren't together, but.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I called her from there and I'm like, oh my God,
I am worthy of being in love. I now know
why I had this pain.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And by the way, I almost said this, like when
I was out there, this epiphany, like this voice from
like God in the universe of hey, listen you you
needed to be in this kind of pain so you
can help others through THEIRS. But we need you to
understand and see we made all your other dreams come
true to keep you afloat. And that changed everything for me.
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You used to always feel like I was cursed with
this depression, anxiety and the sky is falling mentality, And
now I felt like God blessed me with these mental
health issues to help others. And because I want to
live a life of service, I want to leave something
behind in this life. And I know that Unbreakable as
saved lives.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I've been you and.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I read messages of people who are going to commit
suicide now didn't because of this book.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Are people who are so lost.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And now found their way because of this book or
this podcast or something I said of somebody. We do
a weekly motivation and that day that person needed to
hear that message, and if they didn't, they might have
made the ultimate wrong decision. You and I we can't
message again that time, so I understand why we had
to do it right. So Rosie's coming out every week,
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and finally I just kind of wanted to hear from her, Hey,
I'll move to Arizona. I want to be with you,
but I still have my stories back in La so
I'm gonna have to commute. I just kind of want
to hear that from her. And once she said out
to me, I said, no, I don't want you commute.
I want to be at the all time. Okay, I'll
move back to California.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
I'll do it right.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I'll move California, but if it's a place that on
the beach that we both love, and we did and
we did that.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
We found a place and I fell more in love
than I ever could have dreamed.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And folks, this is what I want you to understand.
Like I'm I'm fifty four, Rosi and I know she
don't look it, but we're both in our fifties. It's
never too late to find love and you know, I
think we're giving people home.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
It is never too late. And I absolutely never had
a love this deep. I've never been cared for this deeply.
I've never just been able to just be with someone
without worrying until I met you.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Yeah, it's really it's very like when you find it,
it's like really like unbelievable and it's great down it
with you.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
So it's really cool. It's never too late, too late,
actually late.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
What what's your feelings on all this stuff? Like you
you when.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I first met you, you were never you wouldn't ever
allow yourself to feel like this.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
What changed?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
I think I would always like I wanted it, but
then if it got to.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
I just don't know if I wasn't feeling worthy of it,
or I would sabotage it.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
It was it was a thing that I had to
go through that I never allowed myself to go deeply
into relationships. I was always on the surface probably I
wouldn't get it hurt. But this is the first time
that I actually allowed myself to go in and give
love and receive love and to the level.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Of that with me because I think it was just
meant to be.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
I just knew, like like you and I are like
the same kind of going through the same things, and
you're like very vulnerable, and like I just knew when
I met you, I was like, this is the guy
I'm supposed to be with, and you're amazing, and I
just knew it.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
I don't know something, it's something you don't know until
it happened.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
So again, you don't know why things happened.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
During the time we hadn't broken up, you wouldn't have
gotten more help for yourself to open your yea, your
heart up to Moore, I wouldn't have got to do
all the work I did in Thailand and with my
therapist to learn more. So now we're going to kind
of finish you off here with the high point for us.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
It was our engagement.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Now, everybody saw that we got engaged in Santa Monica,
which is the same spot where we had our first date,
but that actually wasn't the case.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
And nobody knows this.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
So we did it when we did it publicly, when
I finally got our ring. But the truth is, as
I said the year before, I went to Thailand on
a mind body spirit to really learn how to do
breath work.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
And meditation and heal that little kid in me. And
and I was fighting Muatai and the John Wilwich is fantastic.
Oh my god. It was the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
With my friend Mike Swick, who thought was the first
ultimate fighter and owns a place out there called Aka Thailand,
and another guy named Christian who's from Sweden who's great kickboxers. Anyway,
but it was really about I didn'tdrink any alcohol. I
only ate anti inflammatory foods. I did breathwork and meditation
every day. I work with these monks as my therapists.
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I did all this and I'm out there and I
took a boat ride one day and I'm out in
the middle of the SIMC in the middle, I mean
an hour and a half away from shore, in the
middle of the SIMC, and there's this big rock in
the middle there, and some was sitting and I look
up and I kind of get in the word and
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I start having this conversation with God.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I start talking to God and I'm in.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
A great moment of healing and peace and some of
the stuff I'm talking about. Yeah, you're worthy, man, you
just you got to go through this and so you
can help others through there. So it was just this
beautiful moment with God who I felt. I really felt
the love of the universe, and I felt like it
was okay. And I came back and I told Rosie
about it.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
A year later. This past year, Rosie.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Comes with me back to the same place in Thailand
called Kamalaya, and I want to her to.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Experience for my experience.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
It was for her, but I disguised it and mastered
as come out there with me so you can learn
these same things from these monks and the breath work
and meditation so you can help me along with it.
I take Rosie out there and she's like.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
I was like, but this is you know, I'm doing it.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
But these monks aren't going to be able to relate
because I was, you know, I'd lost my great business
and all this stuff.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
So I was like, they're not going to know what,
you know, But actually it was great. They really do.
They're very like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Crying like crazy, and like she's lost her mother and
she's trying to do with that and her stores. She's
you know, she you know, close those stores that were
giving her problems. And it's been a lot that's gone
on in her life. She's got her condo burned down twice,
like not once, but twice. She's been through a lot,
and you shipped her and she just starts hysterical crying.
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And then even these these monks start helping you big
time with they're great.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Yeah, they were actually like they give you like these
analogies that you wouldn't like expect, but they're really good.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
They're very good, like that really great, Like I.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Think I've used it here before.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
We're like, for a great example, Rosie is telling this monk, Yeah,
I just don't feel worthy of you know, Jay's love.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Like all these crappy things happening to me, like with
just everything and everything everything. So when the good things
start happening, mat Jay and was like, you know, all
these good things, they felt like unworthy or like even
worried that like, oh God, something bad's going to happen,
you know, because I was in that.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Little that was your story, that was your rock story, that.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Was my racket. I was running with the monks as.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
To her, Rosie, what's what's your favorite food?
Speaker 5 (32:01):
And you say that R and D chicken sandwich, And.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Then monk Luly says, you love that chicken sandwich. She says, yeah,
you get a great pleasure of that chicken sandwich. Yeah,
when you're eating that chicken sandwiches, think anybody else thinks
you shouldn't enjoy that chicken sandwich.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
You're not worthy of the chicken sandwich.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
And you said no, that's like, she goes, You're.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Just enjoying, Like like what happens? You know, you get
another bite of Are you worried that the person over
at the other tables thinking that you're not worthy of
that chicken sandwich that you're eating? And I was like no,
she goes, you're just enjoying your chicken sandwich until it's gone.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
And I was like, yeah, I'm doing the prize. And
she's like, well, this is this is you, this is
your life.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
This is your life's chicken sandwich.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
So enjoy it.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Don't don't worry about what anybody else is like over there,
worried that you don't deserve that, or you shouldn't have that,
or the fries, or because you're not thinking that when
you get your favorite meal, you're just eating it and
enjoying it.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
She's like, that's this your like's the chicken.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Your life is the chicken sandwich. And it changed everything
for Rosie. She literally looked a love out.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
That's a really cool, right.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Nobody's against me.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
There's nothing against me and she and it changed Rosy
and it changed her so much.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I saw this huge change.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Or I take her on the boat ride, totally different
boat coming, totally different place everything, and all of a sudden,
we're getting the sunset and I look, we come over
these rocks and I look over and I go, oh
my god, we're at the same exact spot I was
at last year when I was having that talk with God.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Oh my god. I never thought i'd see that place again.
Oh my god. I said, baby, this is the place
I told you about. This is the place. This is
where I told you I had that talk with God.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
She's like, well, it's literally in the middle of the
Siam c and this's like rock comes up and there
could be any other place.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
We could have been a different boat company.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
We're in the same exact place. And I turned a
Rosie and I said, maybe I promise you. I'll always
love you, admire you, appreciate you. Most of all, I
will always take care of you.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
And love you.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I guess I'm ask you to marry me, and she says,
well are you, and I go, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I am.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I ask you to marriedy like I wanted, expecting it.
But it's the same place, she says.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I said, yes, yes, Well I didn't have a ring,
so we had uh, we had cutlery, and there was
a string around the cutlery.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
So I pulled the string off the cutlery and.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I put that on her finger and she wore that
for a couple of weeks without anybody knowing that we
were engaged. We didn't tell anybody she had this a
little piece of string around her finger. I'm not going
to show off that I got engaged to Rosie with
a little piece of string on her finger. I'm gonna
look like the cheapest bastard who ever lived. So it
really wasn't until we went out. We went ring shopping.
We did it all and we got her ring, and
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then I said, let's go back to the original spot
of our first date, and I got down on my
knee and I did a proper engagement. That's when the
world found out that we were engaged. But we were
actually engaged for two days earlier.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Beautiful engagement and one that could only happen like once
in a lifetime and once in a while.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Amazing. Yeah, and you're really amazing too.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
So again this is you know, I hope we've given
people hope.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I hope we've given people the ability to say, wow,
there is it is never too late. And also know
that by a Rosie story, it's never too late to
reinvent yourself, never too late to make a change, right.
And I hope we've also talked more than anything with
your partner. Lean into them and make sure they know
I got you, I'm not going anywhere. I got you,
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and really make them understand. And then the other thing
that Rosie and I really do.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Right somewhere lessons. I am very vocal to Rosie about
what I need. Maybe I need you to hear.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
This, this is what I need from you, and you listen,
and same thing she will come to me and say, hey,
I'm really uncomfortable with this, Jay, I need I need you.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
To hear me on this. This is what I need
from you, So be very vocal.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
We hear a lot of couple say yeah, he's not
gonna understand, Yeah he's not going to listen.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah, she will understand me. You don't know that until
you actually sit down and tell them, Hey, I really
need you to hear me. Here. I'm in a lot
of pain.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
And we've had somebody that we knew who was one
of the most beautiful women we've ever seen in our
lives basically tell us she was about to kill herself
and she's in a happily married relationship. And I said,
he needs to understand your pain, and she said he won't.
I said, well he needs to. You deserve that. And
we called them over and said, hey, man, you need
to read the third.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Chapter of my book that lays out this is what.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
It feels like to have this anxiety and this depression,
and what it feels like and what it feels like inside,
just so you understand her, because man, you deserve to
understand her, and she deserves for.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
You to be her best teammate.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
And he at that time said, oh, I didn't realize
it was this bad, Okay, and did And you know,
they're great, but really a lot of times the people
were closest to we hold the most things back from.
Give them the grace of being your best friend, give
them the grace of being your teammate. Really tell them
every thing you're going through and don't say, oh, I
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don't want to put more on them. No, that's what
marriage is about, that's relationships are about. So you have the
ultimate teammate walking this walk together with you.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I love that, so baby, I loved having you on.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I love showing you to the world. It's been fantastic.
But anything else you want to add, if something you've
learned from us, or.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
I just think that the communication is really like our
communication this the second go around is much better.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
So like that's the best thing that we.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
Give each other is like now we're communicating and making
sure that we're like making sure the other one knows,
like like what you just said.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Yeah, so it's it's amazing. It's been really good and
I want you to.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Know also, like I've had a lot of milltowns to you.
Has it ever gotten too much?
Speaker 5 (37:48):
No, No, it's no.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
But but if it does, then you know you just
take a little like you know, get a little moment
and then come back and reset.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
But no, it's a great. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
But my point is people think, oh, it's be too
much in the thought of the person's going to leave
right now.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
No no, yeah, no, yeah, that's that's what You just
have to assure them and reassure them, reassure them and
and you know, reassure them because that's that you've.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Been on and off forget together now for three years
and she still reassures me, and she may have to
for the rest of her life.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
And the meltdowns are part of it.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
Like, so they make you grow, they make you grow
closer because you can make it through it. Because sometimes
people are fearful, like if this happens, the person is
going to break up with you or it's going to
end the thing.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
But like, bumpy roads just make you stronger.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
And if your relationship is not strong enough to make
it through these bumpy roads, then it's not that strong of.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
A relationship, strong enough through the storms, through the storm.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
So it's like if start.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
With the bumpy roads and then make sure you get
through those so you could together hold each other's hands
and get through the storms of life.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Nobody more than I'd rather go through these storms of life.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
That is my beautiful fiance.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Rosie Tennyson, one half of the Tennis and Twins the
better half. That better clean that up. But also I
did the great part for me is I do get
a sister, Renee. She has been fantastic. And one thing
you do is you don't get between two twins. You
make sure that you foster that relationship more and more
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and more. They started in the room, and you too
were survivors again, your survivors, and you survived that place
in Idaho and these journeys and.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
All these you guys are survivors. You were the American
dream and your mind trip.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I love you too, folks.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
This was the best guest I've ever had, an unbreakable
hope you enjoy it over the holidays. I hope we
have given you all some hope and some lessons for
you all to walk this walk together.
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Speaker 3 (00:59):
As you're listening to the.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I am in Italy on my honeymoon, Yes, my honeymoon,
but I want to make sure we had some content
here for all of you who've been walking this walk
together with me for.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
The last few years doing this podcast, but.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Also walking this walk with now my wife Rosie Tennis
and I now.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Last week we had part one.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
This week is part two of a podcast where I
really hope you can enjoy and be lifted up by
a lot of the lessons that Rosie has to offer
up from her life, the things she's overcome. She's really
excelled from a girl who grew up in a tidy
little place in Millanora in Idaho to getting to the
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hot top of Hollywood and creating a business where she
started with one Kiosk hit a mall in Idaho and
then two, then four, then one brick and mortar store,
than thirty stores. But also a lot of things we've
done and she's helped me with with my mental health journey.
If I didn't have all the work that I've had
on myself last few years, and if I didn't have
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all of you to do this with, I wouldn't have
really gotten the tools to be in this relationship and
to be on my honeymoon right now.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I would have sabotaged. I would have pushed away.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I would have done everything I've done the past to
ruin every other relationship I ever had Rosie.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
So I hope you can enjoy Part two of Rosie
Tennyson our podcast as we're enjoying our honeymoon. I hope
you could all enjoy our journey with us. The way
this came about is wonderful. People over at Fox Sports
Radio and a lot of people out there have said, man,
we have never seen you better. We've never seen a
(02:38):
better version of Jay Glazer. And I said, well, Rosie's
really the reason why. My beautiful fiance, Rosie Tennyson, She's why.
And you know, I finally, after all these years, found a.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Partner who could really lift me up. But I feel comfortable,
it's safe for the first time in my life.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And they said, great, let's get Rosie and I said, no, now, now, now,
I'm not getting Rosie on, Absolutely not. And they said,
do you know how many people you could help and
give hope to if the two of you came on
and just talked about not only Rosie's life, which is unbelievable,
like she's the reality show of all reality shows and
the success story of success stories for all little girls
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out there trying to make it, but also just the
hope that we can give people that it's never too
late to find love, and also to give people insight
into what she does to help me when my crazy
gets out of control, when my gray gets really dark
and deep, what she does to help lift me up
and to be there for me.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So I am this better version.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So this is for Don and Scott m Horri and
Justin and everybody else out there who has said this.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Is the best version of Jay Glazers they've seen. Everybody.
Welcome my beautiful fiance, Rosie Tennyson.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Thank you, babe.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Introduction, It is quite the introduction.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And so what was your favorite acting modeling job? And now,
like she'll come up with and by the way, here's
the thing that the crazy part.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Rosie ended up.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Graduating, ohla in broadcasting, Yeah, broadcast journalism because she wants
to be a sports reporter.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yeah right.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Know this until a year ago, Like hello, Like, Rosie,
how do you fail to tell me this? And then
tells me she was a researcher in Fox Sports in
the early nineties, like the same thing I did, but
to start my career at CBS logging game tape.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
And I'm like, I'm telling.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
You why now we saw playmate sitting there doing and
she is over there on the research.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
You're like you you got a kid me and like again,
she doesn't tell me this till like recently.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Like oh, by the way, long, I was only there
for a couple of weeks and that I ended up
like like going on to what I do now.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
But it was fun.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
It was oh so okay, okay, okay, so you do that.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And then after that, you know, I've told you guys,
it's it's never too late to make a change, right,
I've talked about this. You've changed your life in the
fraction of a second, and you decide to you decided
to get out of modeling all together, you and your
sister together at your height, right.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Well, yeah, we had we modeled for years and years
and years.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
But then after a while I kind of was like,
you know what, I kind of just the I just
lost the thrill and wanted to do something else.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
So I remember I was thinking, gosh, what could I do?
What can I do?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
And then I was watching this Oprah show called Find
Your Passion and they were like telling you if you
could do anything, and a genie came down and said, hey,
you know you could do whatever you want.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
It's not no one's telling you you don't have the experience,
you're too old, or this or that. What would you do?
Speaker 6 (05:39):
And my sister and I were like, we would probably
do something in fashion because we used to like design
our own clothes and all this stuff. So that's what
we kind of were like, well, wait, what.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
If we did something in fashion?
Speaker 6 (05:49):
What if we start like a clothing company, which was
like something we never would have thought of or never
would have even allowed ourselves to even dream to do.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
And like, slowly but surely we started like you know.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So you but how old are you are this time
you to reinvent yourself?
Speaker 5 (06:03):
It was like probably in your thirties.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, you decided, and your thirties you're going to completely
reinvent your whole life and whole career.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, so I want people to hear that too. That's great,
that's never that.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Extra, yeah, because it's a completely different than what we
were doing.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
So we just started off like small, and we got
like a little.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Kiosk and like this is you know, Kiosk in Idaho,
which but we were flying back and so Kiosk.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
In them all in Idaho and you were so you
started selling clothes.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
We were doing accessories the question.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, you were defining them.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Making those little lot rhine start jewelry and stuff like that.
It was like a little crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
So it started there.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Yeah, it started small, and then we like, you know,
several kiosks, and then a friend of ours was telling us, hey,
you know you should combine these into like one store.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
But you were still living here. Did you move back to.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Fly back and forth?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
So you fly back and forth and you just have
people run those kiosks?
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Yeah, yeah, okay, And then we ended up getting our
first brick and mortar in Santa Monica. This is like
a very sex store, which was like like the start
of like and.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Their store is called Varga.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
It's called Vargo, yeah, and it was.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Named after Alberto Varga, who.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Was the Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
He does like the pennant drawings from like the fifties,
and it's like it's really cool because it was like
a really cool time like when women were like very
fashionable and they were dressed really like Elizabeth Taylor, Marilyn
Monroe or Rodrey Hepburn. So it's inspired by that kind
of concept, right.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And then so then you get one brick and mortar,
and you have since gone on to build this empire
of how many brick and mortars.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
We've opened thirty vargas over the course since since then,
since we started, Yeah, thirty stores again a little crazy,
no thirty stores.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But again, Han, I love you to go from these
two little girls we're making a dollar an hour working
in these fields of topping corn and hoe and beats
and getting their dad stealing the money from them, to
going out and having a very successful get an app
off that farm, and I having a very successful career
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in modeling and doing authentically and not having to sell
your soul for it, and then in your thirties to
say we're going to pivot and do something completely different
and build something that big on it is incredible.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Thank you, It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And Rosie has a hard time with realizing how successful
she's been, how magnificent that is. Like this is the
same two girls who have their arms draped around them
in Idaho watching the cars drive to la and you
have both done that. If that ain't the American dream page,
I don't know what it is. And if that ain't
two girls saying I don't care what Uphill battles we have,
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we are going to overcome them and make our dreams
come true.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Can you give yourself a little grace and love yourself up?
Speaker 5 (08:50):
For I can love myself up.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Yeah, it's hard to give yourself credit, I guess for
all the work because we were always striving to do
more and do more and do more, and then at
some point I was like, wait, you know what, We've
already done so much. Sometimes you kind of just need
to just kick back and like enjoy everything that you've
done and see it.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
But it's sometimes hard to see.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
But that's the thing that's a huge lesson for everybody.
It's like, that's where we get in problems, is that
we're we want more and more and more and more
and more, and you never get to enjoy it what
you have have, have had that exactly what you've done, done, done, done, done,
Like that's a big thing, and that's a huge thing
that gets in trouble in between our ears, you know,
with anxiety and with the grave.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
We get stuck in the grave because you don't allow
yourself that grace.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
So if yeah I did this, Yeah I've done this,
and it's a it's a huge thing that we now
work on with Rosie so she could start loving herself
for all this. Rosie does it with me, so I
can love myself up for all the different things I've done.
I've reinvented myself five different times, you know, with different
things with businesses, charities, and you know, from NFL to
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MMA to mental health. Now, god, I've you know, reinvented
a bunch. But we really have to love ourselves up
for what we've done.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
All right.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
So now we're gonna shift into how Rosie I met
and we.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Met in COVID.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I had gone to Pittsburgh in a business trip right
before everything shut down. And I come back to my
house and my friend Nicki's Heering is there, who's my assistant?
Time she was Eyeing's Eerring's ex wife and she's done Playboy.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
And prices right with Rosie.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
When I come home and I have the tennis and
twins at my house and they are shift face drunk
just sitting there at my house. I'm like, and I
kne who the tennis and twins were. I didn't expect
to ever see them at my house. I'm like, this
is pretty fantastic right here. And Rosie and I just
became friends in COVID like you know here in La
like no one wants to look at you, and all
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our business were closed down, and a couple of different
times we hung out just as friends. And one night,
NICKI and we're gonna end up going off with this
deep conversation. And I really got to sit there and
talk with Rosie and we started talking about God and
our faith, right and we just started bonding.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
It was about three hours and so.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I shifted over from me as a friend to man,
this woman is fantastic, And I said, can I take
you on a date? And You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we could do that, Okay, But I literally go like
what she said to me that night was just so
different than anything else. And what she said by the
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way she had been on I was running an MVP session, right,
I had her come on because she actually wrote Rosie
donated clothes to some of our veterans. She donated a
lot of her equipment her store to a lot of
our veterans, right from merging vets and players. So I said, well,
I'd love to have you come on, and I'd love
for these people to thank you. So come on a
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session on zoom Man. We had about one hundred vets
and players and man, really cool putting them together, and
I'm coaching it.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
And Rosie had said to NICKI.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Oh, yeah, So I was watching the session and Jay
is always the one that's like, you know, leaving the
pack over there and cheering up out, just encouraging everybody
and just really really positive. And I was just I
could see how much he was like helping out everybody,
like he's just like being like this motivational person. So
I was just like, wow, this this guy, he's so amazing.
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He takes care of all these people. That's what you
were just like giving, so giving what you're saying. But
I was like, but who takes care of him? That's
what I was just like wondering, because I was like, Wow,
he's so like he's just giving so much for everybody.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
But you know, I was just like, he takes care
of him. And then then after.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, she said it again, she said yes, and then
she says to NICKI again, Hey, remember I said, man,
this guy takes care of so many people, but who
takes care of him?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I think I want to be the one that takes
care of him.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
That very same night, I said to her sister, Renee,
Rose has never been married. She said nope. And that's
the other part we'll tell you about Rosie. She said nope.
I said why, and Renee said, because all she does
is take care of everybody else. She's never given herself time, yeah,
right to take care of anybody. She always takes care
of everybody else. I said, wow, I'm going to marry
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your sister. Literally said that to Renee. Renee's like, okay, yeah, whatever, whatever,
sure you are. And I said, now I'm gonna marry
your sister. And it's the first time I've ever felt
like that my life, first time i'd ever and I
heard what you said from Niki. Then you said, man,
this guy takes care of so many people, but who
takes care of him? I want to be the one
to take care of him. I've just never heard that
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in my life. I've never ever ever heard that.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
And I was like, that's my soul name, my wife.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And again, Rosie here has literally like helped out all
theer brothers get jobs and move them in with her
and helped her sister and her relationship she's just taking
care of everybody else and those thirty stores, and she
just never given herself grace to say it's my turn.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
So I think at one point you said she's not
gonna happen for you. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
It was so like I kind of was so career driven,
and plus I was like, you know, I was kind
of had people, like I was helping out and stuff.
But in doing so, I just looked up and I
was like, wait a second, I realized.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
I was like, I didn't get married, I didn't have
a family.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
It's like, you know, I just at one point I
was kind of depressed because I felt like I had
just missed the boat and I was just it was
too late, and so I was like wait a second,
you know wow. So I remember like thinking like it
was just not going to happen, but it did.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
It's it's never too late, that's what. It's never too late.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Like that's the also started writing down.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Yeah, I started when I oh, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
So I was like just kind of putting out to
the universe what I wanted. So I kept like making
all my passwords. I was like I changed them to
new life. I was wanting a new life.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I was.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I was putting everything like a quite like best life
this life. So I was like kind of thinking in
my head like what I wanted to attract, and it
was so amazing.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Before we met.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, thanks all our path. Yeah, every new life when
we meet twenty twenty. Yeah, new life twenty twenty. Everything
was New Life twenty twenty. It's like if you came,
so instead of you taking.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Care ofbody else wishing, it's wishing.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
First time you allowed myself to say, yeah, I am
worthy of this.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I've got to make a change. Yeah that was big.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Yeah, which was so unlikely, and because I just had
kind of gotten caught in a red of doing the
same thing over and over and over, and so I
was like, you know what, in order for things to change,
I have to change.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
I have to be different.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
So when Nicki called me to come over, that was
something I may not have done. But then instead of
saying no, I started saying yes. I was like, Lok, yeah, yeah,
I'll come over. Yeah, let'say, yeah, I've seen you all.
So but that one, you know, meeting of coming over
to see Nickcki brought me to meet you, which changed
my life. So it's like, you know, you're just like
one person away from like your life changing, or when
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you know, like moment away.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah, that changes your life.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So I did that once for us. I did that
one away as a motivate weekly motivation. I got it
from Rosie. She said, you're one away, You're one meeting
away from changing your life.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
One opportunity, one opportunity, one dinner day, one person.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
You're one away when your life changing, one encounter from
your life changing. And she started believing that, and she was,
and thank God Almighty had happened because we met. So
now our first date, we were closed in covid and
while we were closed, we went down and took a
bottle of wine down by the beach in Santa Monica.
It was pretty hilarious.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
There was a guy with an acoustic guitar sitting and
we're still trying to kind of feel each other out.
And we actually we drove to Malibu for a little bit,
because what a bunch you could do. We came back
to Santa Monica where she lives. I had a bottle
of wine I brought. We sat down there and there
was a guy with an acoustic guitars. So who was like, man,
this is great, this.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Is by the fair about it, very very beautiful.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
It was perfect, and all of a sudden, the guy says, hey,
you to on a first date? He said yeah. He goes,
I got a song for you, and in acoustics.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Sings, Baby's got bad, Baby.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Got back, Baby got back. He said, baby got back,
Oh my god. And I'm like, babe, just you know,
this is how my life is. If something crazy get happened.
This is that what's going to be.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
It's actually really good.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
But I said, you'll always be entertained. Okay. So now
our second date, Santa Barbara was open. I called Troy
Aikman who lives.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
In Santa Barbara, and I say, brother, man, you know
the Tennys and twins. He's like Rosie Renee. I said, yeah,
I know who they are. I said, man, I'm going
on a date with Rosie. He goes, wow, good for you.
I said, but I want to take her to Santa
Barbara because La is not open, and I know you
live there. Is there a restaurant you can get me
into that you love? He goes, I love this Italian restaurant.
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I'll catch you guys in your set. We drive up
to Santa Barbara on our second date. We're in there
and then we go to Lucky's for a little nightcap
over there, and all of a sudden, our phone start
pinging and ringing and ringing, bing it and bring it,
and everybody's like, you're right, You're right, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I'm one of the tennis and twins Santa barbar fantastic.
And her phone's lighting up and then my friend's like, Yo,
you need to come over there. Yo, you need to
come over there. And I'm like, what is going on?
And that was the night of the riots that happened
here in La and her cell phone which shows her
store which was in Santa Monica Place, which shows everybody
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e looting the entire mind, destroys everything.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And that's her main store.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So here we are on our second date and they
are putting her out of business, smashed everything every and
we're just watching it from her phone of them smashing
the windows of the stores next to her.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
They didn't get it. They didn't smash her when there's
two stores. They didn't smash the windows off.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Right everything else.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
No idea why? And I didn't think they knew you
were black O score, but you got scared. But it
didn't matter to put the whole mall out of business.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Rosie.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
It was like intense National Guard was there. It was
just it was really crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And meanwhile, I'm trying to fly back at one o'clock
in the morning and get her there.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
And even though like what are we gonna do?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
But I also want to make sure, like my my
house was safe, and so we ended up getting back there.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Unfortunately, Rosie lost her store.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Yeah, we ended up having to close that store because
the ball it just it's still it's still struggling because
it's just you know.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I still had to pay rent, and then all her
other stores that were closed, she still had to pay
rent for.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
It was COVID was very really hard. Yeah for you right,
really good for sure, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
And here you are in a new relationship and I
was just like, hey, you know, we did for about
ten months or something like that, and I knew, man,
this girl my soulmate.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
She's it for me.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
And Rosie ends up breaking up with me. NFC Championship
game right after, my babe, We're gonna have a whole,
like our whole off season come, We're really going to
work on everything, and she said, no, I'm not coming
home today.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I just we need a break.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I'm like what, she goes, I need to go save
my store and I know you need a lot of
attention in time.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
And the only way I'm going to do this is
I have to do this. I have to go.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I'm going to pull this out of debt. And I'm like, no, no,
I got it. I got I said no, no, and
she's like, I don't want to be like every other
girl and just take from you. I'm going to do
this right.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Well, I mean it was my baby, and I just
was like, I got myself in this mess.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
I'll get myself out. So I just did what I
had to do.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
It really hard time me because I thought she was
my soulmate and man, you know me who my mental
health issues believes like you know, the universe is gonna
come crashing that around me and the sky's falling. Skott
fell that day and it came out of nowhere, and
you just kept telling me, no, we're just didn't take
a break till I get.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Myself out of this. But I'm not having you pay
for it. Yeah. Yeah, And for me, I was very
conflicting because I'm like, yeah, but then you're abandoning me.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Yeah, not like I was like, but I was like, no,
but I'm not. I didn't feel right.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
About like having him take on all this stuff that
wasn't yours, so.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Which no, I don't know another girl who would have
done that.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
They would have just said, okay, yeah, if you can
help me out and take care of it, great, and
she just didn't. And she kept also assuring me this
isn't forever, this is just a break in my mind forever,
that it's no way, and it's the first time I'd
ever been in a tank, really really in the tank,
because I'm like, man, this is like I finally got
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like this, this soul mad of mine, who I did
believe was like set up through God because we are
like you have to get me and you have to
get Rosy, and if you get us, you really understand
how special we are. And we got each other, and
you know, all of a sudden it's gone, and I
don't hear it's just a break. I hear it's forever,
to the point where I said, well, I don't even
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want to be in California anymore. And I'm so heartbroken.
I need to start something for myself, a new life
for myself. And I moved to Arizona, and the day
before I left, Rosie came over to the house to
tell me, Hey, I got my ship straight.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I'm ready to get back.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
And I said, well, if you're going to get back,
it's gonna have to be in Arizona because I've moved.
And that was really hard. Rosie started crying. I don't
see her cry a lot. She started crying, and you know,
I made my decision, and she said, well, I told
you it was just a break. I guess I'll have
to start coming to Arizona. Nobody knows, but you know,
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last football season, every single week Rosie flew to Arizona
from Wednesday, Friday or Saturday every week and fought to
get me back, which was huge, right, yeah, yep, and
eventually said to me, now, backing up here, when Rosie
first did break up with me, I went into this
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horrifically downward spiral. I was already in an odd place
because when I wrote him breakable. People don't know this,
but I stopped all my treatment for my mental health
illness and issues, which was all therapy. I threw a
lot of vitamins and ivs and things like that, and
different therapies. I've usually of three therapists, but I work
at my mental health. I stopped it all to be
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in as darker places I could be. So when I
wrote Unbreakable, it was so authentic. This is what depression
feels like, this is what anxiety feels like, this is
what ADHD feels like.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
And it took a long time to try and get
myself out of that hole.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And I did that for everybody else sitting at home,
so I can describe it and.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Give it word so you will have the words.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
To be able to use moving forward and have conversations
with people.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
So still trying to come out of that. And then
this happened with Rosie.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I really went off the deep end and it forced
me to really go get help that I needed to
change habits.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Forevor and I look now and say, if we didn't break.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Up, we probably wouldn't have made it, because I really learned.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
How in that time. I went to Thailand and I.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Learned a lot of work on yourself, did a lot
of work.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
You did a lot of work on yourself.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
You different, but yeah, but like you weren't worthy of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
there was a yeah different things, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
And you did a lot of work and then you
would you say to me, one day, you're gonna put
your captain's hat on it.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Yeah, this is I was talking about your destiny. When
you're like you're choosing your destiny, it's like you have
to be the one that puts the captain's hat on
and then steer your life the way you want it
to go, even if it's not, you know, initially where
you want it.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
You have to be like on a little you know,
might be a little canoe boat. Then pretty soon you
go to the motor boat.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Then, but you're the one with the ability to take
your life in the direction that you wanted to go
and your destiny, which is what you're really good at
and so on.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
To do that, I say, no, I'm worthy of this now.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
So you could that captain that and say no, I am,
I'm going to steer my boat into Jay's waters. And
for me, I went to Thailand and I learned how
to heal that little kid of me, how to feel
like the universe wasn't against me. And really there I
understood I've been putting all this pain for all these
years so I could help others through THEIRS. And Rose
(25:07):
and I were talking that we weren't together, but.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I called her from there and I'm like, oh my God,
I am worthy of being in love. I now know
why I had this pain.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And by the way, I almost said this, like when
I was out there, this epiphany, like this voice from
like God in the universe of hey, listen you you
needed to be in this kind of pain so you
can help others through THEIRS. But we need you to
understand and see we made all your other dreams come
true to keep you afloat. And that changed everything for me.
(25:35):
You used to always feel like I was cursed with
this depression, anxiety and the sky is falling mentality, And
now I felt like God blessed me with these mental
health issues to help others. And because I want to
live a life of service, I want to leave something
behind in this life. And I know that Unbreakable as
saved lives.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I've been you and.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I read messages of people who are going to commit
suicide now didn't because of this book.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Are people who are so lost.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And now found their way because of this book or
this podcast or something I said of somebody. We do
a weekly motivation and that day that person needed to
hear that message, and if they didn't, they might have
made the ultimate wrong decision. You and I we can't
message again that time, so I understand why we had
to do it right. So Rosie's coming out every week,
(26:21):
and finally I just kind of wanted to hear from her, Hey,
I'll move to Arizona. I want to be with you,
but I still have my stories back in La so
I'm gonna have to commute. I just kind of want
to hear that from her. And once she said out
to me, I said, no, I don't want you commute.
I want to be at the all time. Okay, I'll
move back to California.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
I'll do it right.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I'll move California, but if it's a place that on
the beach that we both love, and we did and
we did that.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
We found a place and I fell more in love
than I ever could have dreamed.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And folks, this is what I want you to understand.
Like I'm I'm fifty four, Rosi and I know she
don't look it, but we're both in our fifties. It's
never too late to find love and you know, I
think we're giving people home.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
It is never too late. And I absolutely never had
a love this deep. I've never been cared for this deeply.
I've never just been able to just be with someone
without worrying until I met you.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Yeah, it's really it's very like when you find it,
it's like really like unbelievable and it's great down it
with you.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
So it's really cool. It's never too late, too late,
actually late.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
What what's your feelings on all this stuff? Like you
you when.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I first met you, you were never you wouldn't ever
allow yourself to feel like this.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
What changed?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
I think I would always like I wanted it, but
then if it got to.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
I just don't know if I wasn't feeling worthy of it,
or I would sabotage it.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
It was it was a thing that I had to
go through that I never allowed myself to go deeply
into relationships. I was always on the surface probably I
wouldn't get it hurt. But this is the first time
that I actually allowed myself to go in and give
love and receive love and to the level.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Of that with me because I think it was just
meant to be.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
I just knew, like like you and I are like
the same kind of going through the same things, and
you're like very vulnerable, and like I just knew when
I met you, I was like, this is the guy
I'm supposed to be with, and you're amazing, and I
just knew it.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
I don't know something, it's something you don't know until
it happened.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
So again, you don't know why things happened.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
During the time we hadn't broken up, you wouldn't have
gotten more help for yourself to open your yea, your
heart up to Moore, I wouldn't have got to do
all the work I did in Thailand and with my
therapist to learn more. So now we're going to kind
of finish you off here with the high point for us.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
It was our engagement.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Now, everybody saw that we got engaged in Santa Monica,
which is the same spot where we had our first date,
but that actually wasn't the case.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
And nobody knows this.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
So we did it when we did it publicly, when
I finally got our ring. But the truth is, as
I said the year before, I went to Thailand on
a mind body spirit to really learn how to do
breath work.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
And meditation and heal that little kid in me. And
and I was fighting Muatai and the John Wilwich is fantastic.
Oh my god. It was the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
With my friend Mike Swick, who thought was the first
ultimate fighter and owns a place out there called Aka Thailand,
and another guy named Christian who's from Sweden who's great kickboxers. Anyway,
but it was really about I didn'tdrink any alcohol. I
only ate anti inflammatory foods. I did breathwork and meditation
every day. I work with these monks as my therapists.
(29:32):
I did all this and I'm out there and I
took a boat ride one day and I'm out in
the middle of the SIMC in the middle, I mean
an hour and a half away from shore, in the
middle of the SIMC, and there's this big rock in
the middle there, and some was sitting and I look
up and I kind of get in the word and
(29:52):
I start having this conversation with God.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I start talking to God and I'm in.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
A great moment of healing and peace and some of
the stuff I'm talking about. Yeah, you're worthy, man, you
just you got to go through this and so you
can help others through there. So it was just this
beautiful moment with God who I felt. I really felt
the love of the universe, and I felt like it
was okay. And I came back and I told Rosie
about it.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
A year later. This past year, Rosie.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Comes with me back to the same place in Thailand
called Kamalaya, and I want to her to.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Experience for my experience.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
It was for her, but I disguised it and mastered
as come out there with me so you can learn
these same things from these monks and the breath work
and meditation so you can help me along with it.
I take Rosie out there and she's like.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
I was like, but this is you know, I'm doing it.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
But these monks aren't going to be able to relate
because I was, you know, I'd lost my great business
and all this stuff.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
So I was like, they're not going to know what,
you know, But actually it was great. They really do.
They're very like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Crying like crazy, and like she's lost her mother and
she's trying to do with that and her stores. She's
you know, she you know, close those stores that were
giving her problems. And it's been a lot that's gone
on in her life. She's got her condo burned down twice,
like not once, but twice. She's been through a lot,
and you shipped her and she just starts hysterical crying.
(31:19):
And then even these these monks start helping you big
time with they're great.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Yeah, they were actually like they give you like these
analogies that you wouldn't like expect, but they're really good.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
They're very good, like that really great, Like I.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Think I've used it here before.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
We're like, for a great example, Rosie is telling this monk, Yeah,
I just don't feel worthy of you know, Jay's love.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Like all these crappy things happening to me, like with
just everything and everything everything. So when the good things
start happening, mat Jay and was like, you know, all
these good things, they felt like unworthy or like even
worried that like, oh God, something bad's going to happen,
you know, because I was in that.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Little that was your story, that was your rock story, that.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Was my racket. I was running with the monks as.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
To her, Rosie, what's what's your favorite food?
Speaker 5 (32:01):
And you say that R and D chicken sandwich, And.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Then monk Luly says, you love that chicken sandwich. She says, yeah,
you get a great pleasure of that chicken sandwich. Yeah,
when you're eating that chicken sandwiches, think anybody else thinks
you shouldn't enjoy that chicken sandwich.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
You're not worthy of the chicken sandwich.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
And you said no, that's like, she goes, You're.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Just enjoying, Like like what happens? You know, you get
another bite of Are you worried that the person over
at the other tables thinking that you're not worthy of
that chicken sandwich that you're eating? And I was like no,
she goes, you're just enjoying your chicken sandwich until it's gone.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
And I was like, yeah, I'm doing the prize. And
she's like, well, this is this is you, this is
your life.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
This is your life's chicken sandwich.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
So enjoy it.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Don't don't worry about what anybody else is like over there,
worried that you don't deserve that, or you shouldn't have that,
or the fries, or because you're not thinking that when
you get your favorite meal, you're just eating it and
enjoying it.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
She's like, that's this your like's the chicken.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Your life is the chicken sandwich. And it changed everything
for Rosie. She literally looked a love out.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
That's a really cool, right.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Nobody's against me.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
There's nothing against me and she and it changed Rosy
and it changed her so much.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I saw this huge change.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Or I take her on the boat ride, totally different
boat coming, totally different place everything, and all of a sudden,
we're getting the sunset and I look, we come over
these rocks and I look over and I go, oh
my god, we're at the same exact spot I was
at last year when I was having that talk with God.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Oh my god. I never thought i'd see that place again.
Oh my god. I said, baby, this is the place
I told you about. This is the place. This is
where I told you I had that talk with God.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
She's like, well, it's literally in the middle of the
Siam c and this's like rock comes up and there
could be any other place.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
We could have been a different boat company.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
We're in the same exact place. And I turned a
Rosie and I said, maybe I promise you. I'll always
love you, admire you, appreciate you. Most of all, I
will always take care of you.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
And love you.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I guess I'm ask you to marry me, and she says,
well are you, and I go, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I am.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I ask you to marriedy like I wanted, expecting it.
But it's the same place, she says.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I said, yes, yes, Well I didn't have a ring,
so we had uh, we had cutlery, and there was
a string around the cutlery.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
So I pulled the string off the cutlery and.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I put that on her finger and she wore that
for a couple of weeks without anybody knowing that we
were engaged. We didn't tell anybody she had this a
little piece of string around her finger. I'm not going
to show off that I got engaged to Rosie with
a little piece of string on her finger. I'm gonna
look like the cheapest bastard who ever lived. So it
really wasn't until we went out. We went ring shopping.
We did it all and we got her ring, and
(34:44):
then I said, let's go back to the original spot
of our first date, and I got down on my
knee and I did a proper engagement. That's when the
world found out that we were engaged. But we were
actually engaged for two days earlier.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Beautiful engagement and one that could only happen like once
in a lifetime and once in a while.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Amazing. Yeah, and you're really amazing too.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
So again this is you know, I hope we've given
people hope.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I hope we've given people the ability to say, wow,
there is it is never too late. And also know
that by a Rosie story, it's never too late to
reinvent yourself, never too late to make a change, right.
And I hope we've also talked more than anything with
your partner. Lean into them and make sure they know
I got you, I'm not going anywhere. I got you,
(35:28):
and really make them understand. And then the other thing
that Rosie and I really do.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Right somewhere lessons. I am very vocal to Rosie about
what I need. Maybe I need you to hear.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
This, this is what I need from you, and you listen,
and same thing she will come to me and say, hey,
I'm really uncomfortable with this, Jay, I need I need you.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
To hear me on this. This is what I need
from you, So be very vocal.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
We hear a lot of couple say yeah, he's not
gonna understand, Yeah he's not going to listen.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah, she will understand me. You don't know that until
you actually sit down and tell them, Hey, I really
need you to hear me. Here. I'm in a lot
of pain.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
And we've had somebody that we knew who was one
of the most beautiful women we've ever seen in our
lives basically tell us she was about to kill herself
and she's in a happily married relationship. And I said,
he needs to understand your pain, and she said he won't.
I said, well he needs to. You deserve that. And
we called them over and said, hey, man, you need
to read the third.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Chapter of my book that lays out this is what.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
It feels like to have this anxiety and this depression,
and what it feels like and what it feels like inside,
just so you understand her, because man, you deserve to
understand her, and she deserves for.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
You to be her best teammate.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
And he at that time said, oh, I didn't realize
it was this bad, Okay, and did And you know,
they're great, but really a lot of times the people
were closest to we hold the most things back from.
Give them the grace of being your best friend, give
them the grace of being your teammate. Really tell them
every thing you're going through and don't say, oh, I
(37:02):
don't want to put more on them. No, that's what
marriage is about, that's relationships are about. So you have the
ultimate teammate walking this walk together with you.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I love that, so baby, I loved having you on.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I love showing you to the world. It's been fantastic.
But anything else you want to add, if something you've
learned from us, or.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
I just think that the communication is really like our
communication this the second go around is much better.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
So like that's the best thing that we.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
Give each other is like now we're communicating and making
sure that we're like making sure the other one knows,
like like what you just said.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Yeah, so it's it's amazing. It's been really good and
I want you to.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Know also, like I've had a lot of milltowns to you.
Has it ever gotten too much?
Speaker 5 (37:48):
No, No, it's no.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
But but if it does, then you know you just
take a little like you know, get a little moment
and then come back and reset.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
But no, it's a great. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
But my point is people think, oh, it's be too
much in the thought of the person's going to leave
right now.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
No no, yeah, no, yeah, that's that's what You just
have to assure them and reassure them, reassure them and
and you know, reassure them because that's that you've.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Been on and off forget together now for three years
and she still reassures me, and she may have to
for the rest of her life.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
And the meltdowns are part of it.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
Like, so they make you grow, they make you grow
closer because you can make it through it. Because sometimes
people are fearful, like if this happens, the person is
going to break up with you or it's going to
end the thing.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
But like, bumpy roads just make you stronger.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
And if your relationship is not strong enough to make
it through these bumpy roads, then it's not that strong of.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
A relationship, strong enough through the storms, through the storm.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
So it's like if start.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
With the bumpy roads and then make sure you get
through those so you could together hold each other's hands
and get through the storms of life.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Nobody more than I'd rather go through these storms of life.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
That is my beautiful fiance.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Rosie Tennyson, one half of the Tennis and Twins the
better half. That better clean that up. But also I
did the great part for me is I do get
a sister, Renee. She has been fantastic. And one thing
you do is you don't get between two twins. You
make sure that you foster that relationship more and more
(39:13):
and more. They started in the room, and you too
were survivors again, your survivors, and you survived that place
in Idaho and these journeys and.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
All these you guys are survivors. You were the American
dream and your mind trip.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I love you too, folks.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
This was the best guest I've ever had, an unbreakable
hope you enjoy it over the holidays. I hope we
have given you all some hope and some lessons for
you all to walk this walk together.
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