June 7, 2025 • 39 mins
LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress talk about Aaron Rodgers finally signing his contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers, the decision allowing colleges to pay athletes directly, time looks to be running out for one young QB, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:46):
All right, all right after Saturday.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
To everybody that's right to herd, who it is, It's
t J. Hutch Mazada, Texico Birth. I'm LeVar Arrington. This
is up one game.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We are in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Yeah, we
got a lot to get you.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Nothing bigger, I guess than talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Some NBA basketball as well as some well Aaron Rodgers
signing in Pittsburgh. Yeah, we're gonna jump off with that.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
We'll talk NBA in the second hour when cuffs the
legend comes on from some dude show. But right now,
right now, guy as my guys. Man, how y'all doing, man,
how y'all feeling. How's everything going?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Man?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
You know it's good LeVar. We've been a little overcast
and then in the middle of today, you know, son
comes out, but the weather's nice, thoff, nice little temperature.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Good to go, baby, good to go.
Speaker 7 (01:38):
Yeah. Man, it's been rather you know, rather hot here
that's on the East Coach. What that's been smoking the
last few days. It finally to cool off a little bit,
a little drizzled, little rain. Went out on the boat
yesterday with some friends and okay, you know you got
to see the you know, the dolphins and has some
good food and.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Like some real dolphins. So you so you down south,
then you're not in New Jersey seeing dolphins.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
You're you're, of course somewhere.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Down you're in Jersey.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
Yeah, see, dolphin's in New Jersey there, you yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
What you mean, they're all over not just California whites.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, I got great whites. Is it a different type
of dolphin? Like, is it of cold water?
Speaker 7 (02:22):
I don't know. You got work. You got to ask flipper.
I don't know, dang flipper. I'd be down where I
can see where I'm swimming. I go down to the Caribbean.
As for the aspects, the warmer parts.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
But some people do like being you know, up north
and well.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers has come to the North, the
AFC North. He's landed down and in Pittsburgh. He's with
the Pittsburgh Steelers. Uh, finally agreeing to a deal. I
believe it's a one year deal. And do I have
that right? I don't know that they've Uh, I don't
know that they have disclosed the details on the contract,
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but it does seem like it's a one year deal.
So now finally the deal gets done, where all of
the speculation for so long now comes to an end.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
It is a reality. Aaron Rodgers is.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Now a Pittsburgh Steeler, just in time ahead of the
mandatory work that they're going to do next week. How
you guys feel your what's your what's your response to it?
What is your reaction to Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It was something that I believe all people that follow
the NFL expected to happen. It was a matter of
when is this gonna happen. How long is this gonna
drag out? It's an upgrade for the Pittsburgh Stevens. Their
their quarterback position is in a better position with Aaron
Rodgers than without them. Now, does it make them super
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Bowl contenders? In my eyes, absolutely not. It makes a
better team. And when I said makes him a better team,
it's it's Aaron Rodgers that we used to see and
we hadn't seen him in a while. But every time
I see a rod throw that ball, I'm like, man, yeah,
it's gonna be the game where he recaptures his old
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glory because this last year in Green Bay we didn't
see it. Obviously, he got hurt his first year in
New York and then we didn't see it last year
in New York.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
And so can he become that Aaron Rodgers of old.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
But it makes the Pittsburgh Seas, at least I believe
it does a better team, but super Bowl contenders and
move the needle and put them up there with those
teams with the Kansas City Chiefs, with the Baltimore Ravens,
with the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
I can't say that.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I can't say that Mason Rudolph has a winning record
in the regular season. He's eight and four eight four
and one as a starter in Pittsburgh. So I can't
see an Aaron Rodgers being much better than that. He
couldn't do that with the Jets, and those teams were very,
very comparable.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Yeah, I just I have to agree with TJ.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
I mean, you know, we don't really consider what you
consider Anon Rodgers to be the elite quarterback that he was,
you know, seven eight years ago. I don't think so.
I think this, you know, gives the Pittsburgh Steelers in
Mike Tomin another season to fight and to uh, you know,
not never not have a losing season. And you know,
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I think what he's the probably he is the third
best quarterback in this division, behind you know, Jorge Burrow
and Lamar Jackson. You know, I just think the Steelers
all are in that third place position unless something you know,
drastically changes in the division with the injury or whatever
the case may be. But you know, they add Darius
Slay now dj DK mex cav has a quarterback that
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can get him the football, so I think they'll have
a better passing game. You know, I still believe that
Mike Mike Tomlin still wants to win the football regardless.
That's just the history of the Pittsburgh Steelers. But it
does give them up with at the position other than
Mason Rudolph, you know, being the quarterback in the OTA's
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and you know, I just want to know why it
takes so long? What was Aaron thinking over these last
few months to make the decision and to be the
quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers. It gives them time to
learn the offense, and I think that they will be
better offensively, but you know, you really don't expect them
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really to compete in the AFC North, to win the champion,
to win that division and get to the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Am I wrong for and you guys tell me, because
y'all always do let me know what I'm wrong? Am
I wrong for thinking that the way that has been handled,
the way the quarterback situation was maybe perceivably handled last
year with Fields and Wilson, it comes across to me
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as mismanagement. It doesn't come across to me as decisive.
It doesn't come across to me as this is definitively
taking this Pittsburgh Steelers team in the right direction. And
if that's the way it's being perceived, especially the way
it ended with Russ and with Justin Fields, with both
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of them being gone, not one. You brought in two
former starters from two different teams, and both of them
are gone after one season. You're waiting for Aaron Rodgers
to come in and be a part of your team.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Fellas.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
I feel like, more than anything else, this has created
more of a pressure pack situation for Mike Tomlin to
have to manage because there's the idea of how do
you handle things with Aaron Rodgers? How do you handle
things with your team? Because the Steelers, they come across
to me as a team that is, you know, they
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have leaders that are on the team. You know the
Cam Haywards and you know the other guys.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
TJ.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Watt, he's trying to get his contract situation taken care of.
It just comes across to me as a player driven
team in a lot of ways, I just feel like
there's a lot to be managed here and the expectation
of how it's been handled is that you have to
have success with Aaron Rodgers. There is no there is
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no you know, grace period, There is no Okay, we
get it. Maybe next year with Aaron Rodgers. I don't
feel like any of that exists here. I feel like
it's it's results or busts. And how how bust is that?
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Is?
Speaker 5 (08:54):
That clear out the coaching staff? Is that clear out
the GM? How big of a move is? This is
what I'm left feeling. What type of implications does it
have in making this move in the way and the
manner in which they've done it.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
It's a big name move, obviously we know that.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Going back to last year last season with the Justin
Fields Russell Wilson situation, it almost seemed to me that
Mike Tomlin told Russell Wilson he was going to be
the starter, because the way he removed Justin Fields out
the starting lineup was strange to me. Coaches normally don't
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do that. Justin Fields had been playing solid, but the
most important thing they were winning. They were winning, and
a lot of times the starter gets hurt, backup comes in.
If they're winning, the coach is not gonna make a change.
Mike Tomlin made a change. He felt like Russell Wilson
was just gonna be that much better or he was
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a man of his word. And that's what I've believe
it was. He was a man of his word. Tod Russell,
he was going to be the starter when he got healthy.
He was a starter. And that may have caused a
little riff within a locker room, and not a riff,
just an unspoken like what is he doing type of thing,
because everybody don't agree with that, especially when you're winning games.
(10:19):
There won't be this year. That won't be the case.
Aaron Rodgers is going to be the unquestioned starter unless
he gets hurt or he just flats flat out plays terrible.
I don't envision that taking place. But I'll say this,
if Aaron Rodgers does play really well in Pittsburgh, man,
what does it say about the coaches?
Speaker 6 (10:39):
The Jets had laste on off of them?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Blues shit he even be I'm telling you, if he
plays well in Pittsburgh, we need to give Mike Tomlin
and Arthur Smith great credit and them coaches, and the
Jets just retire that was coaching him last year. Just
retire them offensive coaches retire would.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Have just already have a new coaching staff.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Well, now i'm them coaches, that them coaches? Where else
them coaches coaching last year?
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Exactly? Yeah, I think he's gonna play well. I don't
think he's just going to go out then just you know,
stink it up. I mean, the guy has seen basically
everything that a quarterback and see from a coverage standpoint,
and you know he has he has some good weapons
out there to be able to go out and you know,
play a quality game of football.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
You know, the Stillers got off too a three and
o start last year and they end up losing in
a row and then winning another three straight. So with
that roster that they had last year, if the Stellers
can get off through a three old start this year,
I think that's a you know, uh, you know, a
great chance that they can you know, get into the playoffs.
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But it's just such a tough division over there with
Baltimore and then Cincinnati moving forward, and I don't think
that we've seen the best of Cincinnati yet. So so
you know, I think Aaronboder's going to go in and compete.
Mike Tomlin is going to have a plan for him. Obviously.
One of the reasons why I say that he's going
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to go out and play a good brand of football
because you know, they're gonna run the football and they're
gonna hide him within the run game. He's not just
gonna go out there and get the shotgun like he
was here in New York Jets and throw the ball
fifty times a game. That's not gonna happen over there.
He's gonna manage the game. They're gonna run the ball
twenty twenty five times game. He's gonna throw the ball
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maybe twenty five or thirty times a game. But that
just jumping in the shotgun and just turned it loose.
That's not going to be the style of playing Pittsburgh.
So that's why I expect him to go out and
pay and play a quality game of football.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Wow, we'll see how it all plays out. I think
that this is the stage has been set where it's
a big boom or bus proposition that now to me
exists in Pittsburgh. But hey, you know, you make big moves,
you look for big results, and you live with what
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happens and deal with the consequences or you reap the
spoils of having success. I mean, I think that that's
really how it all works out, and that's why you
put the teams together and you coach them and you
do whatever it is you do with them. We'll see
how it all plays out. Uh yeah, let's keep talking
a little football too. By the way, coming up after
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this break, the House versus the what is it called
the House settlement for colleges to be able to pay
their athletes?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Trash trash.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Well, we're all talk about it. I can't wait to
hear y'all's opinions on it. You're listening to Up on Game.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That was TJ.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Hitchman's ida already given you a precursor to how he
feels about it. We'll hear what Stretch Armstrong has to say,
Plexico Burst when we get back on the other side
of this break.
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Speaker 5 (14:11):
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(14:32):
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Radio videos on YouTube. Guys, the judge approves the settlement. Basically,
(14:54):
colleges can now directly pay athletes. It was a I believe,
a two point eight billion dollar judgment and back damages
over the next ten years to athletes who competed in
college at any time from twenty sixteen through present day.
(15:16):
Moving forward, each school can pay its athletes up to
a certain limit. The annual cap is expected to start
at roughly twenty point five million per school in twenty
five twenty.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Six which is basically July first.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
I believe that they can start paying the athletes directly
and increase every year during the decade long deal. These
new payments are in addition to scholarships and other benefits
that athletes already receive.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
So there's that. There's the conversation.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Now of where is college athletics heading go ahead to you.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
You had some strong opinions.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Unbelievable, man, this is unbelievable. Man.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
This really bothers me because this is not just the
football team or the basketball team. This is the entirety
of the school and its sporting program. So twenty million
between the football team and basketball team, that's nothing. What
about everybody else? What about the baseball team? What about
the softball team? What about the women's basketball? Like twenty
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million dollars amongst everybody, Like it is crazy, Like this
is what I don't like. NCAA president Charlie Baker resign.
He's like, these dudes are terrible. Oh, like they needed help.
I'm talking to Charlie Beaker because he's the president of
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the NCUBA.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
They needed help.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
They wanted the schools to regain the power and the
control because it was unregulated. Well, it was unregulated because
for decades, the NCAA took advantage of us as players
for decades. Stuff your pockets. But I can't make a dollar.
As soon as I start making a dollar, now you
want it regulated.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
The kids his his his, uh, his career as well.
I mean, you're going to spend the kid. The kid's
gonna get in some serious trouble doing the things that
you know.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Peter work was cost the Heisman Trophy because he got
some free clothes, Like, are you serious? Reggie Bush lost
his Heisman Trophy because he took impermissible being impermissible? Why
because those were the rules you said. But you making
a boatload of money. Now if you don't put if
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you're gonna put a cap on what the players can make,
why don't you put a cap on what the coaches
can make?
Speaker 6 (17:49):
Also put a cap on that.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Since all your coaches that wanted it wanted it to
be regulated, put a cap on coaches pay. They don't
want to do that today because they've made million on
the backs of these kids. Now we'll see the Bamas
and the Georgia's get back to win the national championships.
Now they can't compete with these schools that can outpay them.
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Now the Kirby Smarts is like, yeah, I got a
chance to win again. Like come on, man, Like I
don't like this, you guys. When I say you guys,
the NCAA and the people in power created this. Now
once it gets to this point, oh, we need help,
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We need help. When the players were saying they need
to help because they felt they should have been paid.
We should have been paid, y'all didn't want help, then, Oh, Congress,
please save us. Like I don't like this because I
don't believe twenty million dollars is anywhere near the mount
per school that it should be. It should be close
to double that. You got dudes making three four five
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million dollars one player just on the football team. That's
twenty five percent of what the budget is for one player.
Like to me, it's unfair. But what do I expect, man?
When you got people that have taken advantage of players
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their entire lives continue to take advantage of them.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Now not surprising, man, It's just so much to unpack
with you know, all of these things through the n
C Double A and schools and the powerful conference, Big ten,
SEC ACC, Big twelve, like these schools are going to
be grandfather than like moving forward, What I want to ask,
you know, Brady Quinn and some of these other guys,
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what about the independent schools? Do they have to opt
in or be a part of this whole settlement if
they're not in a conference. We don't know that. And
what it does is it levels the playing field to
what levels the playing field back to what it was
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a few years ago. And I currently believe this is
one of the reasons why UH coach from Virginia and
and and and Nick Saban and all these guys while
they return and you know, uh, you know, uh, kudos
to uh the dabble Sweeney, to the world Kirby Smart
because these guys weren't taking guys out of the portal anyway.
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So it was basically what what the n C Double
A is basically saying, we are going to eliminate the
pay for play and to these schools and the organizations
who have unlimited resources basically to make their teams, you know,
off of money. So the n C Double A has
taken they are slowly but surely regaining uh you know,
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the lead of the n C Double A as far
as these teams and pay for play as it's moving forward.
But uh, what does it mean for like walk ons?
You can't even walk onto a football team. It's dumb, dumb,
dumb dumb. You know how many guys that I've played
with Matt Buttanti for one shout, I'm not Matt.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
The experience, the experience of just being their friend, being
on the team, getting to know them to come like
what are they doing?
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Man?
Speaker 7 (21:26):
I've played with guys that have walked on to my
football team, uh in college and they were number one.
They were good. They were damn good football players, and
they were great people. And I can't even imagine not having,
you know, shared that college experience with some of the
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guys that I know still to this day thirty years
later that were regular students and was able to walk
to the football team and it was embraced like they
were scholarship athletes. And now they want to take that
away from the guys that aren't able to get scholarships
that can add value to a program or to a
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football team, because like TJ said, you want to past
your pockets.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I look at it like this, fellas. It's going to
take tremendous leadership at the school level.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I feel like for all the wow, well they're.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
They're taking their leadership away from the school and.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
With the money the schools being able to pay out
the money and having the budget. What I mean by
the leadership and the structure, it's going to take an
athletic department. To me and just how I interpret it,
it's going to take the athletic departments putting the right
people in place, which I'm curious as to how much
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it will cost the schools to put the proper people
in place for the bigger sports basketball and football specifically.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
You're going to need a GM.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
You're going to need a CAP, a CAP person, a
CAP specialist, like you're going to need different people with
the expertise that come with what goes along with paying players,
Like this isn't just okay now you the school has
the ability to be able to pay these players. It's
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going to be interesting to see who values what right
because you're talking about that that twenty million dollars and
as you mentioned TJ, all right, well if this kid
is over here making three million, four million dollars, how
does that work? And how does that work as it
applies to all the other schools, Like if a kid
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is looking at this school versus another school, you know,
is there an established you know, honor system between the
schools where you know, this is the cap, this is
all we're going to and spend on football, This is
all we're going to spend on basketball. So that there
can be actually a real opportunity of parody and competitive
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nature of what's going on. I don't there's so many
different things that have to align and line up, not
just with the school, but there's going to have to
be conversations amongst the schools as to how we're going
about paying these athletes.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Can we get a cap on a coach's ten million
salary for every university, for all the coaches?
Speaker 6 (24:32):
How about that? How about that? You think they like that?
Speaker 5 (24:36):
But even if you get a cap, but even if
I mean, coaches don't have caps in in the league,
they can pay whatever they want to pay.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
No, no, no, But you don't no, no no. What
I'm saying is.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
You can coach coaches what you want to pay them
in the.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
League, and you can do it in college as well. Correct.
So my whole point is.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
The salary cap that they're trying to implement and is
so bad that if they're gonna kept the players kept
the coaches salary, and let's see if they like that.
Let's see if they kept I don't feel like that
this is a problem for coaches. This is coaches are
the ones. The coaches are at the forefront of this.
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That's why it's a problem with the coaches. The coaches.
The coaches are at the forefront of this. They don't
like the fact that the players are getting paid. They
don't like the fact that they had guys are entering
a portal because they can't afford the guy, Well take
a little pay cut, then you can't afford the guy.
So they what everybody assumes, Nick Saban retired because he
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saw this comany he knew Bama didn't have the necessary
money to compete.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Is that is that not why people.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Say he retired.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
They had, Oh, they had the money, you know, under
the table. They listen under the table.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
They had the money. Sec been paying people for years
under the table. But then when it now, when it became,
when it became free game, they didn't have the money.
They couldn't compete with the Texas, the A and m's,
the Texas tax and at the SMUs that's up and coming,
they couldn't compete with them. There domes, they couldn't compete
with them. So Nick Saban said, I'm gone. And that.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Don't feel like that's the main reason. That might be
part of it. But the playing field back to what
it used to be. But there's also ideas to.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
The USC's U c l a's Uh.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Now they can go back to start and recruiting the
guys that they want and not you know, going into
the portal, whatever the case may be, to have a
guy to sign for a whole lot of money just
to play football, but.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It still introduces a new problem.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
And the new problem is is when there's money involved,
there's an exchanging of power, a power that the players
did not have when we played in college. So so,
to me, a major reason why coaches like a Nick
Saban and other old head coaches are getting out of
the way is because you can't control the kids the
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way that you did before. To me, that's that's the
bigger reason you're not going to get You can get
a kid to come to your school because you can
pay the money. That's fine, and the kid might even stay.
But are are the are the motivation factors still the same?
What motivated y'all to be good when you were in college,
bro to to try to make it and and make
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it to the league and get money.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Right, Yes, but when we were playing us getting paid
was not even a thought.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
It was understand that.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Understand that, TJ. But what I'm saying to.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
You is that you had what leverage as players. I
don't care if your burst you have zero leverage zero,
don't like it.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And you know who.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Exercised the leverage in those those meeting rooms and on
the practice field and had no problem letting you know.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
I mean, hey, all due respect. Joe used to tell
dudes daily, I'll put you back. I'll put you back
on that bus, back to where you came from. They
put on that bus.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
They won't tell you that now.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Not only can they not do that, that's control like what.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Not only can you not do that now?
Speaker 5 (28:23):
But if a kid bucks back and says, I don't
feel like running this gasser, I don't feel like doing
this workout today.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Do you under I'm not doing nothing today? In fact,
in fact, I'm taking a week off today.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Tak a far.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
If I'm on the I promise you this, and y'all
know me.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
If I'm on a team and somebody on my team
said says that he gotta go or I gotta go,
I'm not going for that.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
But but that dynamic is playing out already.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Day And that's fine because those guys are the guys
you don't want on your team. I don't care how
talented they are are, if you're not willing to work
for something that's bigger than where you are right now,
because right now they get pay the college.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
It's not my son, your son has that that foundational component.
Your son has those.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Those because if you don't want to work at all,
you don't want.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
To say coming to school with that process.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
If you don't want to work at Penn State, you're
not gonna go to Michigan State and want to work.
You're not gonna go to work and State want to work.
If you a non worker, wherever you go, you a
non worker. So it's gonna show work.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
The that you're making is valid. But it's also the
reason why the transfer portal is jumping. It's a booming
business because you don't have to stay in.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Hitting a portal because the same kids, they are in
the portal multiple times where they go, they go to two, three,
four schools. Guess what, the same problem you had at
school one, you got the same problem in school two,
so forth and so on.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
So they had a final way to you know, get
a hold on what was happening. Hey, regulation, it takes
me back last year to what Penny Hardaway said. Penny
hard Away, you know, we had a sound on this
show and he said that, you know, it's a damn
shame that what's going on right now in the n
C double A is that we have to recruit our
(30:18):
own kids after the season.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Yeah, you got to recruit them during the season too,
because you have again, you had guys that were going
to miss bowl games and miss in the season based
off of.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
The transfer portal.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
They're they're leaving and a lot of people had problems
with the idea of the transfer portal being open while
the season was still going there's going.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
About that issues that they think now.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
That that's one thing that should be changed.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
I agree needs to be changed. I don't.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I don't believe players should be leaving as the season
is going on. That that's one thing I do not
agree with. But all this, all these coaches is man,
these dudes making non figures in a lifetime on the
backs of these kids. So if you not gonna put
(31:11):
a cap on your salary, don't put a cap on
what they make. And they are at the forefront of this.
And that's what bothers me because the majority, not all,
the majority of these kids and the families aren't making
it to the NFL, and the majority of these families
come from low income backgrounds.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
This is a head start on life.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Don't cap these kids because the majority of them are
not gonna make it let them make what they can
while they're in college and it gives them a head
start on life. But now they went, oh, they're still
getting their head start. Well, they would be getting a
better head start if you didn't put a cap on it.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
I just think there's gonna be a lot that has
to be developed, a lot that's going to have to
be discussed, and it's gonna start with the structure and
the expertise of the people within each university and how
they're making decisions. Thank goodness that Penn State has an
amazing athletic director in their athletic department.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Is doing such an amazing job taking advantage of this
day and age in this new time.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
So you know, Elia on the board, if they can't
figure things out there at there over there, where you're
at over there in Indiana, and you might want to
need a change or something like that. You want to
go to a place where you know, you don't have
to see the producer being all up in your songs,
all up.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
In your music videos.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
State come to Happy Valley, you know what I mean.
They don't thought about to day receivers. Respect well, you're
a receiver if you're a receiver and you go to
Penn State, you lost your mind?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
A t J will watch them this year, watch them
this year?
Speaker 6 (32:37):
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Speaker 5 (32:41):
Colder Nikkim Hey speaking of Ilo? Where yeah, I Loo,
let's get this. Let's get this trending Ilo you might
want to do.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
From Penn State too.
Speaker 8 (32:51):
I got him and I just have a thought here, LeVar,
you know I love the Penn State at letter director
makes an average of two point twenty six million dollars
a year. He don't need any more from you.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
What you mean?
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Wow? Tell him? I tell you truth.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
That speaks too speak.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
He's earned every since saying one more time, Illo said
that man is exactly every six say what he's making?
Speaker 6 (33:21):
He didn't hear you say it one more time?
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Tracked contract runs through twenty thirty two.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Just got him?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
And what doesn't make a year? He just got it?
Speaker 6 (33:30):
What did you make it?
Speaker 8 (33:31):
He just got it in August of twenty twenty four.
What do you mean just got it?
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Hey? What does he making?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
He just got that contract.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
To the point two six million on average a year?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
What's wrong with that there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
You got look up, look up what our sports teams
are doing right now? I think we got like.
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Speaker 10 (34:12):
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Speaker 6 (34:26):
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Speaker 2 (34:32):
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Speaker 10 (34:35):
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a set down to take it six to four in
the third.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
It's Gof's second career Grand Slam title. She also won
the US Open in twenty twenty three. Game two of
the Stanley Cup Final on Friday night saw Brad Marshand's
double overtime goal give the Florida Panthers a five to
four win at Edmonton, tying the series in one. Now earlier,
we heard the Panthers radio call, well, here is how
Marshan's double overtime winners sounded in Spanish.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
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Speaker 3 (35:26):
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Speaker 6 (35:30):
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Speaker 8 (35:33):
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Speaker 5 (35:35):
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Speaker 8 (35:39):
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Speaker 1 (35:42):
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Speaker 8 (35:44):
To take your word for it that if you don't
wind finally in Major League Baseball. The Phillies have placed
Bryce Harper on the ten day injured list with right
wrist inflammation. Back to Penn State Nitney Lions talk. Oops,
I mean up on game.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Oh yeah, this is Penn State and Nitney Lines Radio,
And that's TJ. Hutch Menzada, that's Plexico Burrs and this
is Fox Sports Radio. I'm just kidding this up on
game let take a quick break. On the other side
of the break. Is this the end for a quarterback
that hasn't even really gotten started yet. We'll talk about that. Yes,
Fox Sports Radios is up on game. All right, welcome
(36:19):
back into the show. This is up on game. We
are in the Fox Sports Radio studios as t J.
Hutch Maanzada is Plexico Burds. I'm LeVar Arrington. We got
cuffs to legend coming up here at the top of
the hour, so you want to stay locked in for that.
For all the NBA discussions that are ensuing, guys, before
we get to the end of this hour, though, Anthony Richardson,
(36:43):
he's now sidelined with a shoulder injury. I just got
to ask, fellas, with all things given, is this the
end of the road for Anthony Richardson with the Colts.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Wow, he's young man. When you're that young, I can
never say it's the end of the road for a
player that young.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Now, he's gonna need a lot to go his way.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I'll say that we are gonna assume if he's out
any time in training, Daniel Jones is gonna be the
starting quarterback. It's an uphill battle for Anthony Richardson's and
had it's going on to his third season, I believe,
and has had multiple injuries to your shoulder. When you're
a quarterback that's can't have that. It's hard to say
(37:34):
that his career is on the brink of being over.
But not career. I didn't say career. I'm not saying
to take his career away from hi.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I'm just saying his career.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
I mean it's careering with.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
The Coats, Okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
If I believe Shane Steinken is one of the better
offensive minds in football, if Daniel Jones is a quarterback,
I believe they gonna they can do damage with him.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
I really do.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
He led the Giants to the playoffs and with Shane
Styking this quarterback, and what he did with Jalen Hurts
when they went to the Super Bowl. I believe Daniel
Jones can take the Coats to the playoffs if he's
healthy for all seventeen games. As far as Anthony Richardson, yeah,
as it starter with the Coats, I believe it's over.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
I mean, it's been unfortunate. I thought that he was
one of the better quarterbacks coming out of that draft
and twenty twenty three going into his third season. But
I think the most alarming thing about the about his
shoulder injury is that nobody's being tackled, nobody's being hit.
So I think that's the main concern for the Coats
(38:49):
and Anthony Richardson moving forward, like these are nine contact
shoulder injuries, and I think he's used to concentrate or
focus on being getting healthy. From what I have heard
that it's a no surgery type of injury.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
But here we are in June.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
Training camp starts the next month, and you have obviously
Daniel Jones as your backup quarterback, but you drafted this
guy to turn your organization around.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 7 (39:23):
He's incombatant as a quarterback to being able to play
good football. It's just that he hasn't been healthy enough
to show us he gone.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I don't see it working out. I just think this
is the end.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
And you know, for a multitude of reasons, too many
to name in ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
But I'll tell you this.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
We're going to take a quick break and who ain't
gone yet, Well this NBA Finals. So we'll talk about
that with cups of legend. Our two coming at you
up on game Fox Sports Radio
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
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the touchstats. This is the show for you, LeVar too
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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here's Pro bowlers LaVar Airingtet, TJ. Hushmanzana and Silver Bowl
champion Plaxico Burres.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
All right, all right after Saturday.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
To everybody that's right to herd, who it is, It's
t J. Hutch Mazada, Texico Birth. I'm LeVar Arrington. This
is up one game.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We are in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Yeah, we
got a lot to get you.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Nothing bigger, I guess than talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Some NBA basketball as well as some well Aaron Rodgers
signing in Pittsburgh. Yeah, we're gonna jump off with that.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
We'll talk NBA in the second hour when cuffs the
legend comes on from some dude show. But right now,
right now, guy as my guys. Man, how y'all doing, man,
how y'all feeling. How's everything going?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Man?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
You know it's good LeVar. We've been a little overcast
and then in the middle of today, you know, son
comes out, but the weather's nice, thoff, nice little temperature.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Good to go, baby, good to go.
Speaker 7 (01:38):
Yeah. Man, it's been rather you know, rather hot here
that's on the East Coach. What that's been smoking the
last few days. It finally to cool off a little bit,
a little drizzled, little rain. Went out on the boat
yesterday with some friends and okay, you know you got
to see the you know, the dolphins and has some
good food and.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Like some real dolphins. So you so you down south,
then you're not in New Jersey seeing dolphins.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
You're you're, of course somewhere.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Down you're in Jersey.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
Yeah, see, dolphin's in New Jersey there, you yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
What you mean, they're all over not just California whites.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, I got great whites. Is it a different type
of dolphin? Like, is it of cold water?
Speaker 7 (02:22):
I don't know. You got work. You got to ask flipper.
I don't know, dang flipper. I'd be down where I
can see where I'm swimming. I go down to the Caribbean.
As for the aspects, the warmer parts.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
But some people do like being you know, up north
and well.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers has come to the North, the
AFC North. He's landed down and in Pittsburgh. He's with
the Pittsburgh Steelers. Uh, finally agreeing to a deal. I
believe it's a one year deal. And do I have
that right? I don't know that they've Uh, I don't
know that they have disclosed the details on the contract,
(03:04):
but it does seem like it's a one year deal.
So now finally the deal gets done, where all of
the speculation for so long now comes to an end.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
It is a reality. Aaron Rodgers is.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Now a Pittsburgh Steeler, just in time ahead of the
mandatory work that they're going to do next week. How
you guys feel your what's your what's your response to it?
What is your reaction to Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It was something that I believe all people that follow
the NFL expected to happen. It was a matter of
when is this gonna happen. How long is this gonna
drag out? It's an upgrade for the Pittsburgh Stevens. Their
their quarterback position is in a better position with Aaron
Rodgers than without them. Now, does it make them super
(03:55):
Bowl contenders? In my eyes, absolutely not. It makes a
better team. And when I said makes him a better team,
it's it's Aaron Rodgers that we used to see and
we hadn't seen him in a while. But every time
I see a rod throw that ball, I'm like, man, yeah,
it's gonna be the game where he recaptures his old
(04:18):
glory because this last year in Green Bay we didn't
see it. Obviously, he got hurt his first year in
New York and then we didn't see it last year
in New York.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
And so can he become that Aaron Rodgers of old.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
But it makes the Pittsburgh Seas, at least I believe
it does a better team, but super Bowl contenders and
move the needle and put them up there with those
teams with the Kansas City Chiefs, with the Baltimore Ravens,
with the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
I can't say that.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I can't say that Mason Rudolph has a winning record
in the regular season. He's eight and four eight four
and one as a starter in Pittsburgh. So I can't
see an Aaron Rodgers being much better than that. He
couldn't do that with the Jets, and those teams were very,
very comparable.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Yeah, I just I have to agree with TJ.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
I mean, you know, we don't really consider what you
consider Anon Rodgers to be the elite quarterback that he was,
you know, seven eight years ago. I don't think so.
I think this, you know, gives the Pittsburgh Steelers in
Mike Tomin another season to fight and to uh, you know,
not never not have a losing season. And you know,
(05:37):
I think what he's the probably he is the third
best quarterback in this division, behind you know, Jorge Burrow
and Lamar Jackson. You know, I just think the Steelers
all are in that third place position unless something you know,
drastically changes in the division with the injury or whatever
the case may be. But you know, they add Darius
Slay now dj DK mex cav has a quarterback that
(06:01):
can get him the football, so I think they'll have
a better passing game. You know, I still believe that
Mike Mike Tomlin still wants to win the football regardless.
That's just the history of the Pittsburgh Steelers. But it
does give them up with at the position other than
Mason Rudolph, you know, being the quarterback in the OTA's
(06:21):
and you know, I just want to know why it
takes so long? What was Aaron thinking over these last
few months to make the decision and to be the
quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers. It gives them time to
learn the offense, and I think that they will be
better offensively, but you know, you really don't expect them
(06:43):
really to compete in the AFC North, to win the champion,
to win that division and get to the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Am I wrong for and you guys tell me, because
y'all always do let me know what I'm wrong? Am
I wrong for thinking that the way that has been handled,
the way the quarterback situation was maybe perceivably handled last
year with Fields and Wilson, it comes across to me
(07:12):
as mismanagement. It doesn't come across to me as decisive.
It doesn't come across to me as this is definitively
taking this Pittsburgh Steelers team in the right direction. And
if that's the way it's being perceived, especially the way
it ended with Russ and with Justin Fields, with both
(07:36):
of them being gone, not one. You brought in two
former starters from two different teams, and both of them
are gone after one season. You're waiting for Aaron Rodgers
to come in and be a part of your team.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Fellas.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
I feel like, more than anything else, this has created
more of a pressure pack situation for Mike Tomlin to
have to manage because there's the idea of how do
you handle things with Aaron Rodgers? How do you handle
things with your team? Because the Steelers, they come across
to me as a team that is, you know, they
(08:12):
have leaders that are on the team. You know the
Cam Haywards and you know the other guys.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
TJ.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Watt, he's trying to get his contract situation taken care of.
It just comes across to me as a player driven
team in a lot of ways, I just feel like
there's a lot to be managed here and the expectation
of how it's been handled is that you have to
have success with Aaron Rodgers. There is no there is
(08:39):
no you know, grace period, There is no Okay, we
get it. Maybe next year with Aaron Rodgers. I don't
feel like any of that exists here. I feel like
it's it's results or busts. And how how bust is that?
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Is?
Speaker 5 (08:54):
That clear out the coaching staff? Is that clear out
the GM? How big of a move is? This is
what I'm left feeling. What type of implications does it
have in making this move in the way and the
manner in which they've done it.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
It's a big name move, obviously we know that.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Going back to last year last season with the Justin
Fields Russell Wilson situation, it almost seemed to me that
Mike Tomlin told Russell Wilson he was going to be
the starter, because the way he removed Justin Fields out
the starting lineup was strange to me. Coaches normally don't
(09:36):
do that. Justin Fields had been playing solid, but the
most important thing they were winning. They were winning, and
a lot of times the starter gets hurt, backup comes in.
If they're winning, the coach is not gonna make a change.
Mike Tomlin made a change. He felt like Russell Wilson
was just gonna be that much better or he was
(09:57):
a man of his word. And that's what I've believe
it was. He was a man of his word. Tod Russell,
he was going to be the starter when he got healthy.
He was a starter. And that may have caused a
little riff within a locker room, and not a riff,
just an unspoken like what is he doing type of thing,
because everybody don't agree with that, especially when you're winning games.
(10:19):
There won't be this year. That won't be the case.
Aaron Rodgers is going to be the unquestioned starter unless
he gets hurt or he just flats flat out plays terrible.
I don't envision that taking place. But I'll say this,
if Aaron Rodgers does play really well in Pittsburgh, man,
what does it say about the coaches?
Speaker 6 (10:39):
The Jets had laste on off of them?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Blues shit he even be I'm telling you, if he
plays well in Pittsburgh, we need to give Mike Tomlin
and Arthur Smith great credit and them coaches, and the
Jets just retire that was coaching him last year. Just
retire them offensive coaches retire would.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Have just already have a new coaching staff.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Well, now i'm them coaches, that them coaches? Where else
them coaches coaching last year?
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Exactly? Yeah, I think he's gonna play well. I don't
think he's just going to go out then just you know,
stink it up. I mean, the guy has seen basically
everything that a quarterback and see from a coverage standpoint,
and you know he has he has some good weapons
out there to be able to go out and you know,
play a quality game of football.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
You know, the Stillers got off too a three and
o start last year and they end up losing in
a row and then winning another three straight. So with
that roster that they had last year, if the Stellers
can get off through a three old start this year,
I think that's a you know, uh, you know, a
great chance that they can you know, get into the playoffs.
(11:48):
But it's just such a tough division over there with
Baltimore and then Cincinnati moving forward, and I don't think
that we've seen the best of Cincinnati yet. So so
you know, I think Aaronboder's going to go in and compete.
Mike Tomlin is going to have a plan for him. Obviously.
One of the reasons why I say that he's going
(12:08):
to go out and play a good brand of football
because you know, they're gonna run the football and they're
gonna hide him within the run game. He's not just
gonna go out there and get the shotgun like he
was here in New York Jets and throw the ball
fifty times a game. That's not gonna happen over there.
He's gonna manage the game. They're gonna run the ball
twenty twenty five times game. He's gonna throw the ball
(12:31):
maybe twenty five or thirty times a game. But that
just jumping in the shotgun and just turned it loose.
That's not going to be the style of playing Pittsburgh.
So that's why I expect him to go out and
pay and play a quality game of football.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Wow, we'll see how it all plays out. I think
that this is the stage has been set where it's
a big boom or bus proposition that now to me
exists in Pittsburgh. But hey, you know, you make big moves,
you look for big results, and you live with what
(13:06):
happens and deal with the consequences or you reap the
spoils of having success. I mean, I think that that's
really how it all works out, and that's why you
put the teams together and you coach them and you
do whatever it is you do with them. We'll see
how it all plays out. Uh yeah, let's keep talking
a little football too. By the way, coming up after
(13:27):
this break, the House versus the what is it called
the House settlement for colleges to be able to pay
their athletes?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Trash trash.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Well, we're all talk about it. I can't wait to
hear y'all's opinions on it. You're listening to Up on Game.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That was TJ.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Hitchman's ida already given you a precursor to how he
feels about it. We'll hear what Stretch Armstrong has to say,
Plexico Burst when we get back on the other side
of this break.
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colleges can now directly pay athletes. It was a I believe,
a two point eight billion dollar judgment and back damages
over the next ten years to athletes who competed in
college at any time from twenty sixteen through present day.
(15:16):
Moving forward, each school can pay its athletes up to
a certain limit. The annual cap is expected to start
at roughly twenty point five million per school in twenty
five twenty.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Six which is basically July first.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
I believe that they can start paying the athletes directly
and increase every year during the decade long deal. These
new payments are in addition to scholarships and other benefits
that athletes already receive.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
So there's that. There's the conversation.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Now of where is college athletics heading go ahead to you.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
You had some strong opinions.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Unbelievable, man, this is unbelievable. Man.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
This really bothers me because this is not just the
football team or the basketball team. This is the entirety
of the school and its sporting program. So twenty million
between the football team and basketball team, that's nothing. What
about everybody else? What about the baseball team? What about
the softball team? What about the women's basketball? Like twenty
(16:27):
million dollars amongst everybody, Like it is crazy, Like this
is what I don't like. NCAA president Charlie Baker resign.
He's like, these dudes are terrible. Oh, like they needed help.
I'm talking to Charlie Beaker because he's the president of
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the NCUBA.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
They needed help.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
They wanted the schools to regain the power and the
control because it was unregulated. Well, it was unregulated because
for decades, the NCAA took advantage of us as players
for decades. Stuff your pockets. But I can't make a dollar.
As soon as I start making a dollar, now you
want it regulated.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
The kids his his his, uh, his career as well.
I mean, you're going to spend the kid. The kid's
gonna get in some serious trouble doing the things that
you know.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Peter work was cost the Heisman Trophy because he got
some free clothes, Like, are you serious? Reggie Bush lost
his Heisman Trophy because he took impermissible being impermissible? Why
because those were the rules you said. But you making
a boatload of money. Now if you don't put if
(17:44):
you're gonna put a cap on what the players can make,
why don't you put a cap on what the coaches
can make?
Speaker 6 (17:49):
Also put a cap on that.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Since all your coaches that wanted it wanted it to
be regulated, put a cap on coaches pay. They don't
want to do that today because they've made million on
the backs of these kids. Now we'll see the Bamas
and the Georgia's get back to win the national championships.
Now they can't compete with these schools that can outpay them.
(18:14):
Now the Kirby Smarts is like, yeah, I got a
chance to win again. Like come on, man, Like I
don't like this, you guys. When I say you guys,
the NCAA and the people in power created this. Now
once it gets to this point, oh, we need help,
(18:34):
We need help. When the players were saying they need
to help because they felt they should have been paid.
We should have been paid, y'all didn't want help, then, Oh, Congress,
please save us. Like I don't like this because I
don't believe twenty million dollars is anywhere near the mount
per school that it should be. It should be close
to double that. You got dudes making three four five
(18:58):
million dollars one player just on the football team. That's
twenty five percent of what the budget is for one player.
Like to me, it's unfair. But what do I expect, man?
When you got people that have taken advantage of players
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their entire lives continue to take advantage of them.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Now not surprising, man, It's just so much to unpack
with you know, all of these things through the n
C Double A and schools and the powerful conference, Big ten,
SEC ACC, Big twelve, like these schools are going to
be grandfather than like moving forward, What I want to ask,
you know, Brady Quinn and some of these other guys,
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what about the independent schools? Do they have to opt
in or be a part of this whole settlement if
they're not in a conference. We don't know that. And
what it does is it levels the playing field to
what levels the playing field back to what it was
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a few years ago. And I currently believe this is
one of the reasons why UH coach from Virginia and
and and and Nick Saban and all these guys while
they return and you know, uh, you know, uh, kudos
to uh the dabble Sweeney, to the world Kirby Smart
because these guys weren't taking guys out of the portal anyway.
(20:29):
So it was basically what what the n C Double
A is basically saying, we are going to eliminate the
pay for play and to these schools and the organizations
who have unlimited resources basically to make their teams, you know,
off of money. So the n C Double A has
taken they are slowly but surely regaining uh you know,
(20:54):
the lead of the n C Double A as far
as these teams and pay for play as it's moving forward.
But uh, what does it mean for like walk ons?
You can't even walk onto a football team. It's dumb, dumb,
dumb dumb. You know how many guys that I've played
with Matt Buttanti for one shout, I'm not Matt.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
The experience, the experience of just being their friend, being
on the team, getting to know them to come like
what are they doing?
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Man?
Speaker 7 (21:26):
I've played with guys that have walked on to my
football team, uh in college and they were number one.
They were good. They were damn good football players, and
they were great people. And I can't even imagine not having,
you know, shared that college experience with some of the
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guys that I know still to this day thirty years
later that were regular students and was able to walk
to the football team and it was embraced like they
were scholarship athletes. And now they want to take that
away from the guys that aren't able to get scholarships
that can add value to a program or to a
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football team, because like TJ said, you want to past
your pockets.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I look at it like this, fellas. It's going to
take tremendous leadership at the school level.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I feel like for all the wow, well they're.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
They're taking their leadership away from the school and.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
With the money the schools being able to pay out
the money and having the budget. What I mean by
the leadership and the structure, it's going to take an
athletic department. To me and just how I interpret it,
it's going to take the athletic departments putting the right
people in place, which I'm curious as to how much
(22:55):
it will cost the schools to put the proper people
in place for the bigger sports basketball and football specifically.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
You're going to need a GM.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
You're going to need a CAP, a CAP person, a
CAP specialist, like you're going to need different people with
the expertise that come with what goes along with paying players,
Like this isn't just okay now you the school has
the ability to be able to pay these players. It's
(23:27):
going to be interesting to see who values what right
because you're talking about that that twenty million dollars and
as you mentioned TJ, all right, well if this kid
is over here making three million, four million dollars, how
does that work? And how does that work as it
applies to all the other schools, Like if a kid
(23:48):
is looking at this school versus another school, you know,
is there an established you know, honor system between the
schools where you know, this is the cap, this is
all we're going to and spend on football, This is
all we're going to spend on basketball. So that there
can be actually a real opportunity of parody and competitive
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nature of what's going on. I don't there's so many
different things that have to align and line up, not
just with the school, but there's going to have to
be conversations amongst the schools as to how we're going
about paying these athletes.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Can we get a cap on a coach's ten million
salary for every university, for all the coaches?
Speaker 6 (24:32):
How about that? How about that? You think they like that?
Speaker 5 (24:36):
But even if you get a cap, but even if
I mean, coaches don't have caps in in the league,
they can pay whatever they want to pay.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
No, no, no, But you don't no, no no. What
I'm saying is.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
You can coach coaches what you want to pay them
in the.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
League, and you can do it in college as well. Correct.
So my whole point is.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
The salary cap that they're trying to implement and is
so bad that if they're gonna kept the players kept
the coaches salary, and let's see if they like that.
Let's see if they kept I don't feel like that
this is a problem for coaches. This is coaches are
the ones. The coaches are at the forefront of this.
(25:17):
That's why it's a problem with the coaches. The coaches.
The coaches are at the forefront of this. They don't
like the fact that the players are getting paid. They
don't like the fact that they had guys are entering
a portal because they can't afford the guy, Well take
a little pay cut, then you can't afford the guy.
So they what everybody assumes, Nick Saban retired because he
(25:37):
saw this comany he knew Bama didn't have the necessary
money to compete.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Is that is that not why people.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Say he retired.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
They had, Oh, they had the money, you know, under
the table. They listen under the table.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
They had the money. Sec been paying people for years
under the table. But then when it now, when it became,
when it became free game, they didn't have the money.
They couldn't compete with the Texas, the A and m's,
the Texas tax and at the SMUs that's up and coming,
they couldn't compete with them. There domes, they couldn't compete
with them. So Nick Saban said, I'm gone. And that.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Don't feel like that's the main reason. That might be
part of it. But the playing field back to what
it used to be. But there's also ideas to.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
The USC's U c l a's Uh.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Now they can go back to start and recruiting the
guys that they want and not you know, going into
the portal, whatever the case may be, to have a
guy to sign for a whole lot of money just
to play football, but.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It still introduces a new problem.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
And the new problem is is when there's money involved,
there's an exchanging of power, a power that the players
did not have when we played in college. So so,
to me, a major reason why coaches like a Nick
Saban and other old head coaches are getting out of
the way is because you can't control the kids the
(27:08):
way that you did before. To me, that's that's the
bigger reason you're not going to get You can get
a kid to come to your school because you can
pay the money. That's fine, and the kid might even stay.
But are are the are the motivation factors still the same?
What motivated y'all to be good when you were in college,
bro to to try to make it and and make
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it to the league and get money.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Right, Yes, but when we were playing us getting paid
was not even a thought.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
It was understand that.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Understand that, TJ. But what I'm saying to.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
You is that you had what leverage as players. I
don't care if your burst you have zero leverage zero,
don't like it.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And you know who.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Exercised the leverage in those those meeting rooms and on
the practice field and had no problem letting you know.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
I mean, hey, all due respect. Joe used to tell
dudes daily, I'll put you back. I'll put you back
on that bus, back to where you came from. They
put on that bus.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
They won't tell you that now.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Not only can they not do that, that's control like what.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Not only can you not do that now?
Speaker 5 (28:23):
But if a kid bucks back and says, I don't
feel like running this gasser, I don't feel like doing
this workout today.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Do you under I'm not doing nothing today? In fact,
in fact, I'm taking a week off today.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Tak a far.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
If I'm on the I promise you this, and y'all
know me.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
If I'm on a team and somebody on my team
said says that he gotta go or I gotta go,
I'm not going for that.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
But but that dynamic is playing out already.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Day And that's fine because those guys are the guys
you don't want on your team. I don't care how
talented they are are, if you're not willing to work
for something that's bigger than where you are right now,
because right now they get pay the college.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
It's not my son, your son has that that foundational component.
Your son has those.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Those because if you don't want to work at all,
you don't want.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
To say coming to school with that process.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
If you don't want to work at Penn State, you're
not gonna go to Michigan State and want to work.
You're not gonna go to work and State want to work.
If you a non worker, wherever you go, you a
non worker. So it's gonna show work.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
The that you're making is valid. But it's also the
reason why the transfer portal is jumping. It's a booming
business because you don't have to stay in.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Hitting a portal because the same kids, they are in
the portal multiple times where they go, they go to two, three,
four schools. Guess what, the same problem you had at
school one, you got the same problem in school two,
so forth and so on.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
So they had a final way to you know, get
a hold on what was happening. Hey, regulation, it takes
me back last year to what Penny Hardaway said. Penny
hard Away, you know, we had a sound on this
show and he said that, you know, it's a damn
shame that what's going on right now in the n
C double A is that we have to recruit our
(30:18):
own kids after the season.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Yeah, you got to recruit them during the season too,
because you have again, you had guys that were going
to miss bowl games and miss in the season based
off of.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
The transfer portal.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
They're they're leaving and a lot of people had problems
with the idea of the transfer portal being open while
the season was still going there's going.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
About that issues that they think now.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
That that's one thing that should be changed.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
I agree needs to be changed. I don't.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I don't believe players should be leaving as the season
is going on. That that's one thing I do not
agree with. But all this, all these coaches is man,
these dudes making non figures in a lifetime on the
backs of these kids. So if you not gonna put
(31:11):
a cap on your salary, don't put a cap on
what they make. And they are at the forefront of this.
And that's what bothers me because the majority, not all,
the majority of these kids and the families aren't making
it to the NFL, and the majority of these families
come from low income backgrounds.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
This is a head start on life.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Don't cap these kids because the majority of them are
not gonna make it let them make what they can
while they're in college and it gives them a head
start on life. But now they went, oh, they're still
getting their head start. Well, they would be getting a
better head start if you didn't put a cap on it.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
I just think there's gonna be a lot that has
to be developed, a lot that's going to have to
be discussed, and it's gonna start with the structure and
the expertise of the people within each university and how
they're making decisions. Thank goodness that Penn State has an
amazing athletic director in their athletic department.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Is doing such an amazing job taking advantage of this
day and age in this new time.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
So you know, Elia on the board, if they can't
figure things out there at there over there, where you're
at over there in Indiana, and you might want to
need a change or something like that. You want to
go to a place where you know, you don't have
to see the producer being all up in your songs,
all up.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
In your music videos.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
State come to Happy Valley, you know what I mean.
They don't thought about to day receivers. Respect well, you're
a receiver if you're a receiver and you go to
Penn State, you lost your mind?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
A t J will watch them this year, watch them
this year?
Speaker 6 (32:37):
I mean colder Nikki Hey, listen, he's nice. He's nice.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Colder Nikkim Hey speaking of Ilo? Where yeah, I Loo,
let's get this. Let's get this trending Ilo you might
want to do.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
From Penn State too.
Speaker 8 (32:51):
I got him and I just have a thought here, LeVar,
you know I love the Penn State at letter director
makes an average of two point twenty six million dollars
a year. He don't need any more from you.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
What you mean?
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Wow? Tell him? I tell you truth.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
That speaks too speak.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
He's earned every since saying one more time, Illo said
that man is exactly every six say what he's making?
Speaker 6 (33:21):
He didn't hear you say it one more time?
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Tracked contract runs through twenty thirty two.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Just got him?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
And what doesn't make a year? He just got it?
Speaker 6 (33:30):
What did you make it?
Speaker 8 (33:31):
He just got it in August of twenty twenty four.
What do you mean just got it?
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Hey? What does he making?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
He just got that contract.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
To the point two six million on average a year?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
What's wrong with that there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
You got look up, look up what our sports teams
are doing right now? I think we got like.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
Please get to the thriving business with business.
Speaker 9 (33:54):
Booming, gladly go with all good all due respect and
doctor Patrick crab But indeed, but indeed, Pat Coco Golf,
twenty one year old American won the French Open a
short time ago.
Speaker 8 (34:08):
Here is how match points sounded on radio Roland garros.
Speaker 10 (34:12):
Chappit chip points at five four saved down the tea,
the forehand from Sabatellenca, the forehead from Golf. This is
a short mid court Bulevard into the corner. She wants
the forehand era she hasn't got it and chops out
of Sabellenca andly misjudged at Sablanca's to be set in
the backhand cross because she's.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
List scoff and Coca Coffe's the It's a.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Champion in Paris.
Speaker 10 (34:35):
She is in tears on the floor at the back
of the court. She cannot believe it. She came from
a set down to take it six to four in
the third.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
It's Gof's second career Grand Slam title. She also won
the US Open in twenty twenty three. Game two of
the Stanley Cup Final on Friday night saw Brad Marshand's
double overtime goal give the Florida Panthers a five to
four win at Edmonton, tying the series in one. Now earlier,
we heard the Panthers radio call, well, here is how
Marshan's double overtime winners sounded in Spanish.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Dumper, dumb, look that.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Up.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Your hip will go.
Speaker 8 (35:33):
Place finally, guys in Major League.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Basically, that's how I feel when I use blue school
go ahead.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
I'll just I'll just have to take your word for it.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
On just have.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
To take your word for it that if you don't
wind finally in Major League Baseball. The Phillies have placed
Bryce Harper on the ten day injured list with right
wrist inflammation. Back to Penn State Nitney Lions talk. Oops,
I mean up on game.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Oh yeah, this is Penn State and Nitney Lines Radio,
And that's TJ. Hutch Menzada, that's Plexico Burrs and this
is Fox Sports Radio. I'm just kidding this up on
game let take a quick break. On the other side
of the break. Is this the end for a quarterback
that hasn't even really gotten started yet. We'll talk about that. Yes,
Fox Sports Radios is up on game. All right, welcome
(36:19):
back into the show. This is up on game. We
are in the Fox Sports Radio studios as t J.
Hutch Maanzada is Plexico Burds. I'm LeVar Arrington. We got
cuffs to legend coming up here at the top of
the hour, so you want to stay locked in for that.
For all the NBA discussions that are ensuing, guys, before
we get to the end of this hour, though, Anthony Richardson,
(36:43):
he's now sidelined with a shoulder injury. I just got
to ask, fellas, with all things given, is this the
end of the road for Anthony Richardson with the Colts.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Wow, he's young man. When you're that young, I can
never say it's the end of the road for a
player that young.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Now, he's gonna need a lot to go his way.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I'll say that we are gonna assume if he's out
any time in training, Daniel Jones is gonna be the
starting quarterback. It's an uphill battle for Anthony Richardson's and
had it's going on to his third season, I believe,
and has had multiple injuries to your shoulder. When you're
a quarterback that's can't have that. It's hard to say
(37:34):
that his career is on the brink of being over.
But not career. I didn't say career. I'm not saying
to take his career away from hi.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I'm just saying his career.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
I mean it's careering with.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
The Coats, Okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
If I believe Shane Steinken is one of the better
offensive minds in football, if Daniel Jones is a quarterback,
I believe they gonna they can do damage with him.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
I really do.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
He led the Giants to the playoffs and with Shane
Styking this quarterback, and what he did with Jalen Hurts
when they went to the Super Bowl. I believe Daniel
Jones can take the Coats to the playoffs if he's
healthy for all seventeen games. As far as Anthony Richardson, yeah,
as it starter with the Coats, I believe it's over.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
I mean, it's been unfortunate. I thought that he was
one of the better quarterbacks coming out of that draft
and twenty twenty three going into his third season. But
I think the most alarming thing about the about his
shoulder injury is that nobody's being tackled, nobody's being hit.
So I think that's the main concern for the Coats
(38:49):
and Anthony Richardson moving forward, like these are nine contact
shoulder injuries, and I think he's used to concentrate or
focus on being getting healthy. From what I have heard
that it's a no surgery type of injury.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
But here we are in June.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
Training camp starts the next month, and you have obviously
Daniel Jones as your backup quarterback, but you drafted this
guy to turn your organization around.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 7 (39:23):
He's incombatant as a quarterback to being able to play
good football. It's just that he hasn't been healthy enough
to show us he gone.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I don't see it working out. I just think this
is the end.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
And you know, for a multitude of reasons, too many
to name in ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
But I'll tell you this.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
We're going to take a quick break and who ain't
gone yet, Well this NBA Finals. So we'll talk about
that with cups of legend. Our two coming at you
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