November 8, 2025 • 41 mins
TJ Houshmandzadeh and Plaxico Burress talk about the Cardinals benching QB Kyler Murray, the Jets making some big moves at the trade deadline, Draymond Green’s comments on Dak Prescott, and more!
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wherever you get your podcast. Man, a lot went on
man the trade deadline first time, at least that it
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was so many big names.
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We'll get into.
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That former first pick of the draft, first round, first
pick of the draft.
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We'll see what this future looks like. We'll getting that also.
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Obviously we'll talk a little basketball with cuffs in the
second hour, but before we.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Do, it's great out here. How you're doing after on
these coach? My boy? Hey man, you know what, it's
not too bad. Man. It's unseasonal to be warm for
this time of the year.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
We're going to reach to the low sixties today, which
is great. The sun is shining, nice little fall breeze.
So hey man, you really just you can't complain who
in your you know, a few weeks from Thanksgiving and
there's sixty plus degrees in the northeast. So man, it's
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a beautiful saturday. Man, Well, it's good all the way
around there. We clear skies and palm trees out here, beautiful, beautiful,
beautiful weather. Before we get.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Going into this first topic, tragic.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Life was lost young Dallas cowboy player Marshawn Need and
we just want to send our condolencence prayers to us
families as loved ones. We don't do this enough and
and I'm guilty of it. Call check in on your brothers,
your friends, your former teammates, because you just never know
what somebody is going through. So we want to just
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send our condolences to him as family is loved ones,
and may you rest in paradise, my boy.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Yeah, man, now this is yeah, this is good. No ahead, no, no, no,
you got a plexico. Oh man, you know I got
the news just like everybody else did. Man, it's an unfortunate,
you know, sad situation for him itself, and you know
obvilously the Dallas organization and the young guys family. Just
like you said, man, it's you know, twenty four years old.
You know, you just never really know what anybody's dealing
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with or going through. Man, this is a sad, unfortunate situation.
It's just like you said, Man, we just in all
the blessings and the condolences to his family.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yes, sir, Kyler Murray first pick of the draft, and
he's missed some games. He has a fut problem foot injury.
Jacoby Brissett is averaging sixty yards more per game or
averaging more points means only one in two as they started.
Brossett is but the offense just looks better with him
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under center. And so now you know after the game
and Jonathan Gannat said, oh, you know, Kyler is our quarterback.
Next day, Jacoby Brissett will be the starter for the
seeable future. Kyler Murray has to get healthy. When you
say a guy has to get healthy, we're saying we're
gonna roll with the hot hand. Now. I believe, or
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I believed, Kyler Murray's future was in doubt as a
starter with the Arizona Cardinals, maybe as a starter in
the National Football League in general.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And then I looked at something and.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
It said, he has I believe thirty six million guaranteed
next year, and if they had him on a roster February,
I believe sixteenth. I believe that's today. I could be wrong.
He's old. Another seventeen million for twenty twenty seven. So
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he's gonna play for the Cardinals again. It is just
a matter of when. If Brissett does really well, then
that may complicate things. What do you believe well and
should happen with the Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And Kyler Murray. I don't know, man.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
My mind is going back to me and you having
this conversation a few years ago about Klin Murray, and
you assured me, I believe all the listeners that you
know Kyler Murray was the franchised quarterback for this organization.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And my correct, no, incorrect, Oh you are.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Because you've been very You've been very high on Kyler
Murray ever since he arrived in Arizona.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I don't call that. No, I won't say i've been
high on him.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I say, when you give a guy that type of contract,
he's your franchise quarterback. I don't care what happens because
I've never I've never been one, at least with Kyler Murray.
Oh he's this, he's because I don't know him enough
as a person. I think playing sports is really about
at the quarterback position, how do your teammates receive you?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
How are you as a leader? How are you as
a person.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I don't know him well enough to say he is
or but when you get that type of contract, you're
the franchise guy.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Well, I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say where there's smoke,
that's fire. You know you know, I had the opportunity
to you know, go out and uh, you know, do
my internship with Arizona calls back in twenty seventeen, and
I had the opportunity to really get to know you know,
Patrick Peterson. And when you come out as an all
pro performer as he was, and he's a Hall of
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Fame cornerback, and questions the quarterback, the franchise quarterback leadership qualities,
Something there is wrong. And I've been saying this, you know,
for the last few years with Colin Murray. Obviously, just
like you said, he got the contract. Just because you
get the contract, that doesn't make you a franchise quarterback.
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I think we can all agree with that. But just
like you said, we can all sit down and look
at the Arizona Cardinals offense and say that when Jacoby
Brissett is under center, this offense looks different. Just like
you said, he's averaging sixty more passing yards every single game.
And one of the one of the things that jumped
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out to me was when I go back to the
whole leadership qualities of Kyler Murray, when you hear Jakobe
Bussett speak about this offense, he said one of the
things that has really, you know, hindered the development thus
far of Marvin Harrison Junior is communication to hear that
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from a veteran quarterback.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
It says, it says something to.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Me about Kyler Murray and his tenure there because he's
been there for I don't know what five six years now.
Obviously he went down with the leg injury a few
years ago. But there's no way in the world, while
Marvin Harrison Junior as talented he as he is, they
have twenty four catchers, three hundred ninety six yards and
two touchdowns in the first eight weeks of the season.
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There's no reason for that. So Jacoby Brissett now is
your starting quarterback and Marvin Harrison Junior goes out and
have a career night, which is not even a huge
night with seven catches in ninety six yards. Those are
the most catches in yards that he's had as a
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wide receiver with the Arizona Cardinals. As talented as this
man is, there's no excuse for him not to have
had a hundred yard game yet in his career or
whatever the case may be. So the offense looks different.
Marvin Harrison Junior looks like a totally different player, and
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he's gathering, he's trying, he's working with this man, just
like he said, from a communications standpoint, and he's even
staying after practice to throw routes with him. I don't
believe that Kylin Murray was doing that with Marvin Harrison Jr.
Working out after practice and trying to gather a pull
with you wide receiver. And now you see the difference
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in production when they're playing together. So I'm gonna say
moving forward, they made it. They whatever they ranked twelve
in the NFC was three and fifty three and five
the Dallas cal I don't know if I don't know
what's worse the Dallas Cowboys and the way they showed
up in the game. They've been having some trouble with
Arizona calls beating them at home over the last two years.
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But anyway, I'm gonna just say that if Jacoby Ussett
continues to go out and plays it the way that
he is, I don't believe that that the car does
will make the playoffs. But the offense just looks different.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
And so that that was a career high for him
and catches not not yards. He had a hundred yard
game as a ricky. But the fact that the fact
that this dude was drafted as hot as he was.
And you can blame Kyler Murray for a lot of it,
but to me, some of the blame also has to
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go to the coaching staff because one, when you draft
a guy that high, you want to justify that draft,
giving some targets, let letting feel like he is involved
in a game plan. That's first and foremost. With the
Kyler Murray and Jacoby Brissett situation, I was completely in
support of. You know what Kyler Murray done. He done
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When a quarterback like Brissett goes in and they're just
so efficient on offense, They're moving the ball up and
down the field, guys are getting involved. And when guys
get involved, now we locked in a game. As a receiver,
you get me the ball early and often I'm locked
in from start to finish. We know how that works
as receivers. And so Jacoby Brissett guys, when I say guys,
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the skill guys, they want to play with him. Now
the offensive line, they want a game, they want to
play with him. So Kyler Murray now has kind of
backed himself into a corner just because of the way
that Brissett has played and got everyone involved. But then
you look at the contract and everybody wants to win.
But this a business man. This has been They didn't
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give Kyler Murray all that money to hold the clipboard.
They didn't give him all that money to be decoration
just standing on the sideline. And that's something that many
people don't take into account that he has thirty plus
million dollars guaranteed, whether he's on a roster or not,
they gonna pay him that money.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
That is his fault and so and not his fault
at all and so.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
And if he's on a roster, like I said, the
fifth day of the new league year next season, seventeen
million of his twenty twenty seven salary is guaranteed. So
that's close to fifty million dollars that they're paying him regardless. Now,
if they release him before the start of the new
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league season next season, okay, they just be on the
hook for thirty plus million dollars. And so that's where
I say, Kyler Murray is probably going to st for
the Cardinals again. But it makes it a lot easier
if Jakobe Brissett isn't playing well. It makes it a
lot easier if he kind of starts to fall on
his face and the offense isn't moving the ball, because
now they can justify going back to Kyler Murray, even
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though financially it's gonna get justified anyway. And I think
that's the part of the National Football League that if
you make a high salary, We've given you all this
money for a reason, so you gonna play, You're gonna
earn your keep. That that's the thing that makes it
difficult in the locker room when as.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
A player, you like, bro, why is he playing? Oh?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Okay, because he has that salary. But I mean, you
look on the bright side, you can go play more
video games. They putting this, they putting this contract that
you have to study, like when you have to start
doing those things. Those are red flags. But again I
don't know Kyler Murray. I know guys that played for
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the car and I try not to get in a man.
I don't want you telling me this and that about
your quarterback because of what I do, and I don't
want to repeat those words on ere when somebody tells
me things and confidence. But for Kyler Murray, man, this
may be the beginning of the end. Because if he's
not the start with the Cardinals and you're, say to
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New York Jets and you need a quarterback, Oh, it
looks as if they need a quarterback. You bringing Kyler
Murray in to bring be your quarterback. I wouldn't and
so all could his days be numbered as a starter
in the league. Could Kyler Murray say, you know what,
I was the first player ever drafted in the first
round in football. Forget first round, I was the first
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player ever drafted in the top ten in football and baseball.
Could he just drop his cleats and say, you know what,
let me pick this back back up and get back
on and see could that possibly take place?
Speaker 5 (13:53):
It's a possibility. It is a possibility. I mean I
should I don't know. I don't know about that. But
the Arizona Call is gonna have some decisions to make
moving forward, especially you just really don't see, uh, this team,
you know, really just kind of taking the next steps, uh,
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you know, for supremacy in the NFC West. And I
believe when they gave him that contract, nobody thought that
it would be this or would take this long. Because
you thought that Kyler Murray would continue to grow, you know,
as a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
And and and get.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Better, and now you're surrounding him with with weapons. Obviously
Marvin Harrison Jr. And I believe it's it's a Hollywood Brown.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
They have.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
No no, it's Martin Harrison Jr. It's Michael Wilson, it's
Trey McBride. Those that are basically three pass catchers. Yeah,
so you know you have a run a game. You know,
obviously Connor is hurt.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
But I just don't see see how moving forward a
fe're the Arizona Cardinals, even though you owe him to
thirty you know, seven million dollars or what have you,
how you can just continue to watch, you know, like
the non development of Kyler Murray, you know, getting better
and then guys are going to start getting frustrated. But
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one thing I do know is Marvin Harrison Junr. Is
a tremendous talent and they have to be able to
find a way to get this young man going, you know, offensively.
And now you see Jacoby just going out and having
the success that he has and he's building confidence. That's
what you want to see from your young players that
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you bring in that you draft high. The question is
going to be why is Kyler Murray not having the
same kind of production and success as the veteran Jacoby brosseid.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
That's going to be the question.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
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did this past trade deadline was like the NBA? It
felt like National Football We very rarely do you see trades,
and if you do see trades, it's just smaller name players.
But this this trade deadline season, the Jet's basically says,
you know what, fire sale is giving away our best
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two players, who's gonna offer us the most? And they
trade Sauce Gardner to the Coats, They trade Quinn Williams
to the Cowboys, And to me, it feels like one
do you like the moves?
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Two who won the trades?
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Well, I mean you would have to say that you know,
Dallas won the trades with you know, everybody that they
have acquired since the season has begun I mean, I
just like you said, I think for the New York
jetson Woody Woody Johnson man in this organization, the rumblings
of you know, sell the team and you know, all
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of these things, and the fans not showing up to
the games, and it's it's it's getting real bad. That's
what I'm gonna say up here in Upper Northeast. Because
you know, you bring in a brand new head coach.
I believe at this point they're one and seven or
one in eight. Uh, you trade for for Justin Fields.
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Everybody knows he hasn't been playing well this you and
for the last you know, few seasons. The Jets have
on paper been the best one of the best defenses
in football, but they just haven't gotten the results. And
you say to yourself, if you're the Dallas Cowboys moving forward,
I would say that you got the better end of
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the deal. But I'm just looking at this team, the
three five and one, there was eleventh in the NFC.
They're probably not going to make the playoffs. You got
a brand new, first year head coach and Brian Schottenham
and when I said the decision was made to hire
him as the head coach, I've never thought that Brian
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Shottenhama has been an elite play caller. I mean even
with Russell Wilson in Seattle. Obviously I was here with
them with the Jets. You know, he's the officer court
named the Indian with Andrew Luck and those offenses have
never really been, you know, top tier. And you look
at Jack Prescott and he having you know, they would
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say one of the best seasons of his career, but
it's not you know, uh, cultivating wins. And that's a problem.
But for Dallas, you can't stop the run. You can't
run it. I don't know what you're gonna you can't cover.
So since the beginning of the season, you're bringing Kenny Club.
Everybody knows. You trade Michael Parsons, you trade for Logan Wilson,
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You add Quinn Williams, you add Sauce Gardner, all defense,
all defensively, all defensive moves. You bolsted your line of
scrimmage with obviously Quinn, who's all pro nosed. God, you're
bringing Logan Williams. You have Kenny Clark, So what's gonna
be your excuse me?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Moving forward?
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Defensive view of the Dallas Cowboys and you cannot stop
the run or control the passing game in the back
end of your defense. When you have Soft Gardner and
tray Von Diggs, there's no more excuses for the Dallas
Cowboys defensively.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Gardner with the Coats, he not with the Cowboys. I mean, yeah,
the other corner is don In Trademond Diggs my best.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
But defensively, I just don't see how you can continue
to make excuses.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
You've made all.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
These moves on the defensive side of the football and
you can't stop anybody. And they say, Dak prest to
have one of the best little crib but if you
can't stop anybody, it doesn't make any difference. So I
would say that Dallas one the the h at the
trade deadline. But at some point in time, you're going
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to have to be able to look yourself from the
face and say, there are no more excuses for Dallas.
You have Dak, you have CD, you have you know,
all pro at corner, you have an all pro.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Uh, you know on a defensive line.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
You have to be able to weigh have to find
a way to have all these trades or or acquiring
these players translate into wins and right now and right
now for the Dallas Cowboys, they are not winning enough
football games right now to be taking seriously in the
NFC if they wanted to make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Did the Cowboys get better?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
We'll we'll talk the Jets, the Jets trade to the
Coats for Sauce Gardner in a second, But I'm gonna
focus on the Cowboys right now. In Quinn Williams, did
they get better? Add in Quinn Williams, Yeah, they did,
they did they for they for sure got better. Quinn
Quinn Williams is a top five defensive tackle in the league.
And in no order you would say Chris Jones, Jeffrey Simmons,
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Quinn Williams. I know I'm missing one, Chris Jones, Jeffrey Simmons,
Quinn Williams. Uh, he's one of the top five defensive
tackles in the league, that's for sure. Jalen Carter, that's
it with the Eagles to me, those are the best
disruptors in the interior on the defensive line guys. And
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so they got better. But the Cowboys weakness is in
the secondary. That's their weakness is in the secondary. Dron Bland.
They gave him a nice contract this offseason, and Deron
Bland has not been playing well.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Tray Von Diggs had that one great year where he.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Had all those interceptions, but he can't get healthy now
he's been hurt. And so, yeah, you have two really
good defensive tackles and Quinn Williams and Kenny Clark.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Where's your edge pressure?
Speaker 4 (23:35):
They don't have that, but Quinn Williams as well as
Kenny Carr, they can get pressure for the materiy. They
can get pressure. But your glaring weakness is in the secondary.
And so yeah, did they get better. Yes, they need
help on the secondary. Man, they need help in the
back end because we can we just match protect and
then now we'll just kill your corners because they can't cover.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
They cannot cover.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
And some will say the Marcus Lawrence and Michael Parsons
is a big reason those corners were having field days
and career years because the quarterbacks so much that the
ball is coming out, and so now these guys are
having career years now that the pressure isn't as consistent
as it once was. We don't see those interceptions. We're
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not seeing the pbu's past breakups on the back end,
and so for me with the Cowboys, they got better.
But in that sense when when when you look at it,
they traded Micah Parsons and a first round pick and
a second round pick, and they received a first round
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pick Quinn Williams and Kenny Clark, I would say they
won that.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
And also they.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Gave up Mazie Smith to the Jets, who was a
first round pick. And so I would have preferred me
personally to have Micah in this city situation.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
And to touch on what you said.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
About Shotenheimer, I agree with you with his play calling
in his ability. When he was in Seattle, Pete Carroll
let him go because he didn't like the way that
he called plays. But I'll be honest, I've been impressed
with the way he's called plays with the Cowboys this season.
I think he's done a hell of a job mixing
up the run. In the past, Dak is playing as
good as he's ever played, and so I'll give him credit.
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I think he's done well this year, but in years past,
I thought he's been just okay. And the Cowboys Jerry
Jones wants to justify this, justify trade and Michael Parsons,
which very Rarely do you see one of the top
players at his position traded in his prime when he
has at least five, six, seven great years ahead of them.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
You just don't see that in the National Football League.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
We gonna get to Sauce Gardner and the coach, but
before we do, we got to talk to our guy
Illo on these updates. Isaac below end Crown, what you
got for us?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Hello?
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Fellas. By the way, where's that other guy?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah? Here we go. I'm like, man, they wasn't even
bringing you in the right way. I'm almost like, hey,
what's going on?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
I prefer I prefer a dramatic entrance. So, speaking of
that other guy, how about this number two Indiana and
Penn State remain scoreless with four minutes and forty five
seconds left to play in the first quarterer, Man, look
at what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I'm laying it down.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Oh there's Laura elsewhere. How about this Mississippi State out
to a lead over fifth rank Georgia ten minutes in.
Here's how on station WZLA Topson from the slot, Taylor.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Takes a hand off to Tompson, running straight ahead of
the three to the two to the one touchdown. Howmorio
Taylor one eight drive by Mississippi State, and Taylor runs
it in from four yards to.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Get State to six nothing lead over Georgia, and Mississippi
State now leading fifth rank Georgia seven to three with
five minutes left to play in the first quarter, and
fellas Georgia fans are not amused. These postings courtesy of
the popular social media site message board Geniuses. So Georgia
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is playing Texas next week, So at Dirty Birds eighty four,
posting quote Arch gonna look like his Hall of Fame
uncles next week against our defense. Meanwhile, at Palmeadow Dog
two has another theory, posting quote, why are cowbells allowed
in the stands at Mississippi State? Seems mighty strange to
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prohibit artificial noisemakers but blatantly allow it for one university.
Is it just a sympathetic concession from the SEC because
they have not been a threat? Moost years unquote? So
that's at Palmeadow Dog two weighing in where number eight
Texas Tech has a three to nothing lead over seventh
ranked BYU with three minutes left to play in the
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first quarter. All yours, guys.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Man, this college football once it starts getting to this
point of the season, none but great matchups. Love to
see it. Now, plex, let's unpack this sauce Gardner to
the Coats. I'm gonna go first here on this one.
I really like this trade, man, I really I feel
like I feel like, did the Coats give up a lot?
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
But you know what this You give up two ones
and a donne Ady Mitchell eighty Mitchell can play. I
know he fell out of favor when he dropped that ball,
but boy, he can play. So it feels like they
gave up a lot. But you know what this tells
me about the Coats that organization. They feel like they
can do something this year. When you make a move
like this, you really feel like you have a chance.
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And with lou Ana Roumo calling that defense, who we
scape go to the Cincinnati last year when he could
really coach and he's showing that now that's another subject.
When you have him as your defensive coordinator and the
way the Coats have been playing now, it's just been
reported that the Forest Bunkner is going on ir So
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that's going to hurt him and hurt him a lot
because he's a force up front. But when you acquire
salce Gardner great first two years in the league, and
then he's kind of just been up and down. But
now you have you refresh. When you go to a team,
you go from one to seven to seven and two.
You go from one to seven and seven and two. Man,
you walking into the building smiling, excited. Sauce Gardner has
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never really experienced winning. He's never been in the playoffs.
He's going to get that opportunity now with the coach,
and so we might see a better sauce Gardener than
we've ever seen. He's playing with really good players. He's
always played with good players on the defensive side of
the ball. He's just never had an offense now that
can put up points and force the other team to
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have to throw the ball. That's what's about to happen
now with the coach. They're gonna put up points. He's
gonna have more opportunity to make more plays because his
team now.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Is gonna score more points. So for me, I love
this move.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
For the coach, yeah, you gave up a lot, but
if you're as good as you think you're gonna be
in the next few years, that means those picks will
be later first round picks, And why are the coach
telling us something we're moving on from Anthony Richson and
Daniel Jones is our quarterback because people forget Anthony Richard
was a very high draft pick.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
We moving on. They're telling us that without saying.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
It, well, I mean the season that Damon Jones is
having right now. Man, they're seven and two. Since the
last time Peyton Manning was a franchise quarterback for this organization.
I mean, they're not gonna take him out of the
game and replace them with Anthony Richison coming off Andrey.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
That's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
But I do like to move by the coachsman that
they're currently ring web. I believe seventeenth defensively giving up
three hundred and thirty thirty yards of you know, on defense,
and twenty one points defensively. Man, I really think it's
a great move by them because sauts gotten.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I think him playing here for the Jets, he was
reeling a little bit.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
It's tough to get up and go to work every
day and every morning and compete and know that you know,
you know, in the back of your mind, you're just
you know, you're you're not playing for anything. I think
I've been in that situation, you know, mentally or in
the physically, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Playing for twelve years.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
I played on great teams and every every year we
had I had an opportunity to go to the playoffs,
and you could kind of see that the effort was starting.
His effort wasn't there, And I believe that he goes
for worse to first. The coach are what's seven and two.
(32:04):
I believe they are first place in the AFC right now,
and now you wake up, you're refreshed, you have something
to play for. And I think defensively for the coach,
if they can slow down some of these offenses, it
will translate into more wins for this offense, you know,
especially if they can slow people down defensively. But I
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believe this man, everybody right now in that organization is
being held accountable because I really believe, like carly Er said, Gordon, she.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Knows what she's doing. She's been around for life.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
You can't say what you want, but when she's on
the sideline taking notes and she's on the headset, she's
holding everybody accountable for all communication that goes to the headset,
whether you on offense, special teams or defense.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
She's been around football her whole life.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
She knows it, she understands it, and now now everybody
is in tune.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Everybody's giving them the best effort.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
I've been on a handset during some of these games
when I want to play man. The ruckers that go
through these hairdsets between coaches, you wouldn't believe some of
the things that they're saying on game things. And now
she's sitting there listening to it all. She said, I'm
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wearing a hairdset because I need to see or hear.
Who was full of bs? Do they even know what
they're talking about? Do you know what the meaning that
is to an NFL coach that who's been coaching for
twenty thirty years?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Do you think they're talking crazy with her?
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Absolutely, the whole rhetoric, the whole dialogue has changed.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
When these coaches are on the headset, they have to
watch what they says.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Behavior now, huh, no doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
And even some of the players are camp Bondam can't
come out of say, man, this is the most involved
I've ever seen an owner of my NFL career. And
I really believe that this is one of the reasons
why they are where there are. I mean, Daniel Jones
is having a season that nobody thought he would have,
you know, respectfully, But.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
I believe that.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Ersay Gordon on the headset is really one of those
things that everybody is being held accountable too from a
communication standpoint that basically they gotta watch what they say.
(34:43):
And she has already come out and say I need
to hear who is full of bs?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
And do they know what they're doing? Yes?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
And from a coach, now you now you're in the
meeting rooms on your and you'll dot in your eye
and crossing your tee's because you know that she is
hearing everything that is going back and forth between these
coaches and there're seven and two. Nobody predicted the coach
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would even be in the picture because everybody had already
jumped out the window and picked the Houston Texas to
win the AFC South. But man, you gotta like it.
It's a defensive move and I really believe that Carley
Erthay Gordon, she knows exactly what she's doing on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
If you're a player, they're going for it, and you
play for the coach you love it man that I'll
say that you love the fact that they believe in
what y'all can do and they're going for it, and
so kudos to the Indianapolis coach.
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I want to know what you think he you, guys,
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went to the same school. He's an NBA champion, but
he has some words to say about mister Dak Prescott.
I don't want to put words in his mouth. I'm
gonna just let us and let everybody hear what he
had to say for themselves. Y'all had to say, what
what what? What's your boy Drake mind talking about with
Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Dak's a bump.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Ohak's not a bum.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
He's an MVP candidate. Yeah, that's fine. He get him
some numbers and they stink. Do He's not a dumb dog.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
He's a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
No, he's a bullet.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
They're number one with that. You're too smart and you
know too much about football to say Dak Prescott's a bomb.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
I won four championships, Jordan, so you gotta understand when
I say bump. I'm not saying Dak Prescott isn't a
good NFL quarterback. Of course, he's a good NFL quarterback.
I'm not saying that, But I'm saying, when the money's
on the line, when it's for all the marbles, who
are you he a bum?
Speaker 3 (38:45):
I totally disagree. I totally What has he done in
those moments, then a bum he is?
Speaker 7 (38:50):
If he's not a bomb in the moments, Jordan, when
they had their best teams, best offensive line to league.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
They had all that to get to playoffs in here, bull.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
But the story isn't fully rich.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
It is pretty written because now he's making sixty five
million dollars and it's way harder to win, Like you
gotta be so like Patty Mahome's good to be like
that highly paid and still go win like that's a
very hard thing to do.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Like it's over man Draymond winning on Dak Prescott. I'm
not I don't believe that Scott is a bomb at all.
Y'all ball for Michigan State Sparks. We know Drakemond is
a fan of the game, with football, extremely outspoken.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Man, what's your thoughts?
Speaker 5 (39:34):
Hey Man, that's cuffle call him the second off strangler,
ak hey day day whatever you want to call him.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Man, that's my guy. Man.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
I love him to death, you know, obviously, and getting
to know him and know him personally, you know, he's
always going to be very candid about how he feels
about you, me, anybody else, or whatever the case may be.
But I mean, I'm not a Dallas Cowboys fan by
any stretch of imagination, but I don't he's not a bum.
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I think I believe that what he's trying to say
is that his pay hasn't resonated into wins, playoff wins,
or getting to a championship game or winning a Super Bowl.
I believe that's what he's trying to say when he's
calling Dak Presley out a bump. He's not a bum.
(40:30):
They just haven't, you know, won the NFC's made a
deep playoff run and got into the play championship game
or Super Bowl. That's what Draymond Green is saying. If
you know him, you understand him and his rhetoric and
what he's trying to get across. But I don't believe
(40:51):
that he he believes that Dak Prescott is a bum.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
He just hasn't won the big games. No, yeah, we
all know Dak is not a bum at all. Has
he come up short? Yeah he has. I'm a lot
of guy, had a lot of players have. But I'll
say this, when when you're making sixty million a year,
a lot is expected of you.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
When you're the highest paid quarterback in the league, your
team isn't winning playoff games, and.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
A lot of the time you're part of you're the biggest.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Reason they're not because you're throwing interceptions, you're turning the
ball over. Then the criticism is warranted. But a bumb
is a stretch. He's nowhere near a bumb. So hey, Dre, mind,
you can have your opinion. We got to end this.
First side will be back up on game Fox Sports Radio. Paxico.
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was so many big names.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
We'll get into.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
That former first pick of the draft, first round, first
pick of the draft.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
We'll see what this future looks like. We'll getting that also.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Obviously we'll talk a little basketball with cuffs in the
second hour, but before we.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Do, it's great out here. How you're doing after on
these coach? My boy? Hey man, you know what, it's
not too bad. Man. It's unseasonal to be warm for
this time of the year.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
We're going to reach to the low sixties today, which
is great. The sun is shining, nice little fall breeze.
So hey man, you really just you can't complain who
in your you know, a few weeks from Thanksgiving and
there's sixty plus degrees in the northeast. So man, it's
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a beautiful saturday. Man, Well, it's good all the way
around there. We clear skies and palm trees out here, beautiful, beautiful,
beautiful weather. Before we get.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Going into this first topic, tragic.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Life was lost young Dallas cowboy player Marshawn Need and
we just want to send our condolencence prayers to us
families as loved ones. We don't do this enough and
and I'm guilty of it. Call check in on your brothers,
your friends, your former teammates, because you just never know
what somebody is going through. So we want to just
(02:53):
send our condolences to him as family is loved ones,
and may you rest in paradise, my boy.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Yeah, man, now this is yeah, this is good. No ahead, no, no, no,
you got a plexico. Oh man, you know I got
the news just like everybody else did. Man, it's an unfortunate,
you know, sad situation for him itself, and you know
obvilously the Dallas organization and the young guys family. Just
like you said, man, it's you know, twenty four years old.
You know, you just never really know what anybody's dealing
(03:23):
with or going through. Man, this is a sad, unfortunate situation.
It's just like you said, Man, we just in all
the blessings and the condolences to his family.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yes, sir, Kyler Murray first pick of the draft, and
he's missed some games. He has a fut problem foot injury.
Jacoby Brissett is averaging sixty yards more per game or
averaging more points means only one in two as they started.
Brossett is but the offense just looks better with him
(03:53):
under center. And so now you know after the game
and Jonathan Gannat said, oh, you know, Kyler is our quarterback.
Next day, Jacoby Brissett will be the starter for the
seeable future. Kyler Murray has to get healthy. When you
say a guy has to get healthy, we're saying we're
gonna roll with the hot hand. Now. I believe, or
(04:14):
I believed, Kyler Murray's future was in doubt as a
starter with the Arizona Cardinals, maybe as a starter in
the National Football League in general.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And then I looked at something and.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
It said, he has I believe thirty six million guaranteed
next year, and if they had him on a roster February,
I believe sixteenth. I believe that's today. I could be wrong.
He's old. Another seventeen million for twenty twenty seven. So
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he's gonna play for the Cardinals again. It is just
a matter of when. If Brissett does really well, then
that may complicate things. What do you believe well and
should happen with the Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And Kyler Murray. I don't know, man.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
My mind is going back to me and you having
this conversation a few years ago about Klin Murray, and
you assured me, I believe all the listeners that you
know Kyler Murray was the franchised quarterback for this organization.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And my correct, no, incorrect, Oh you are.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Because you've been very You've been very high on Kyler
Murray ever since he arrived in Arizona.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I don't call that. No, I won't say i've been
high on him.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I say, when you give a guy that type of contract,
he's your franchise quarterback. I don't care what happens because
I've never I've never been one, at least with Kyler Murray.
Oh he's this, he's because I don't know him enough
as a person. I think playing sports is really about
at the quarterback position, how do your teammates receive you?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
How are you as a leader? How are you as
a person.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I don't know him well enough to say he is
or but when you get that type of contract, you're
the franchise guy.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Well, I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say where there's smoke,
that's fire. You know you know, I had the opportunity
to you know, go out and uh, you know, do
my internship with Arizona calls back in twenty seventeen, and
I had the opportunity to really get to know you know,
Patrick Peterson. And when you come out as an all
pro performer as he was, and he's a Hall of
(06:27):
Fame cornerback, and questions the quarterback, the franchise quarterback leadership qualities,
Something there is wrong. And I've been saying this, you know,
for the last few years with Colin Murray. Obviously, just
like you said, he got the contract. Just because you
get the contract, that doesn't make you a franchise quarterback.
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I think we can all agree with that. But just
like you said, we can all sit down and look
at the Arizona Cardinals offense and say that when Jacoby
Brissett is under center, this offense looks different. Just like
you said, he's averaging sixty more passing yards every single game.
And one of the one of the things that jumped
(07:10):
out to me was when I go back to the
whole leadership qualities of Kyler Murray, when you hear Jakobe
Bussett speak about this offense, he said one of the
things that has really, you know, hindered the development thus
far of Marvin Harrison Junior is communication to hear that
(07:32):
from a veteran quarterback.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
It says, it says something to.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Me about Kyler Murray and his tenure there because he's
been there for I don't know what five six years now.
Obviously he went down with the leg injury a few
years ago. But there's no way in the world, while
Marvin Harrison Junior as talented he as he is, they
have twenty four catchers, three hundred ninety six yards and
two touchdowns in the first eight weeks of the season.
(07:59):
There's no reason for that. So Jacoby Brissett now is
your starting quarterback and Marvin Harrison Junior goes out and
have a career night, which is not even a huge
night with seven catches in ninety six yards. Those are
the most catches in yards that he's had as a
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wide receiver with the Arizona Cardinals. As talented as this
man is, there's no excuse for him not to have
had a hundred yard game yet in his career or
whatever the case may be. So the offense looks different.
Marvin Harrison Junior looks like a totally different player, and
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he's gathering, he's trying, he's working with this man, just
like he said, from a communications standpoint, and he's even
staying after practice to throw routes with him. I don't
believe that Kylin Murray was doing that with Marvin Harrison Jr.
Working out after practice and trying to gather a pull
with you wide receiver. And now you see the difference
(09:02):
in production when they're playing together. So I'm gonna say
moving forward, they made it. They whatever they ranked twelve
in the NFC was three and fifty three and five
the Dallas cal I don't know if I don't know
what's worse the Dallas Cowboys and the way they showed
up in the game. They've been having some trouble with
Arizona calls beating them at home over the last two years.
(09:24):
But anyway, I'm gonna just say that if Jacoby Ussett
continues to go out and plays it the way that
he is, I don't believe that that the car does
will make the playoffs. But the offense just looks different.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
And so that that was a career high for him
and catches not not yards. He had a hundred yard
game as a ricky. But the fact that the fact
that this dude was drafted as hot as he was.
And you can blame Kyler Murray for a lot of it,
but to me, some of the blame also has to
(09:58):
go to the coaching staff because one, when you draft
a guy that high, you want to justify that draft,
giving some targets, let letting feel like he is involved
in a game plan. That's first and foremost. With the
Kyler Murray and Jacoby Brissett situation, I was completely in
support of. You know what Kyler Murray done. He done
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When a quarterback like Brissett goes in and they're just
so efficient on offense, They're moving the ball up and
down the field, guys are getting involved. And when guys
get involved, now we locked in a game. As a receiver,
you get me the ball early and often I'm locked
in from start to finish. We know how that works
as receivers. And so Jacoby Brissett guys, when I say guys,
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the skill guys, they want to play with him. Now
the offensive line, they want a game, they want to
play with him. So Kyler Murray now has kind of
backed himself into a corner just because of the way
that Brissett has played and got everyone involved. But then
you look at the contract and everybody wants to win.
But this a business man. This has been They didn't
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give Kyler Murray all that money to hold the clipboard.
They didn't give him all that money to be decoration
just standing on the sideline. And that's something that many
people don't take into account that he has thirty plus
million dollars guaranteed, whether he's on a roster or not,
they gonna pay him that money.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
That is his fault and so and not his fault
at all and so.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
And if he's on a roster, like I said, the
fifth day of the new league year next season, seventeen
million of his twenty twenty seven salary is guaranteed. So
that's close to fifty million dollars that they're paying him regardless. Now,
if they release him before the start of the new
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league season next season, okay, they just be on the
hook for thirty plus million dollars. And so that's where
I say, Kyler Murray is probably going to st for
the Cardinals again. But it makes it a lot easier
if Jakobe Brissett isn't playing well. It makes it a
lot easier if he kind of starts to fall on
his face and the offense isn't moving the ball, because
now they can justify going back to Kyler Murray, even
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though financially it's gonna get justified anyway. And I think
that's the part of the National Football League that if
you make a high salary, We've given you all this
money for a reason, so you gonna play, You're gonna
earn your keep. That that's the thing that makes it
difficult in the locker room when as.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
A player, you like, bro, why is he playing? Oh?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Okay, because he has that salary. But I mean, you
look on the bright side, you can go play more
video games. They putting this, they putting this contract that
you have to study, like when you have to start
doing those things. Those are red flags. But again I
don't know Kyler Murray. I know guys that played for
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the car and I try not to get in a man.
I don't want you telling me this and that about
your quarterback because of what I do, and I don't
want to repeat those words on ere when somebody tells
me things and confidence. But for Kyler Murray, man, this
may be the beginning of the end. Because if he's
not the start with the Cardinals and you're, say to
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New York Jets and you need a quarterback, Oh, it
looks as if they need a quarterback. You bringing Kyler
Murray in to bring be your quarterback. I wouldn't and
so all could his days be numbered as a starter
in the league. Could Kyler Murray say, you know what,
I was the first player ever drafted in the first
round in football. Forget first round, I was the first
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player ever drafted in the top ten in football and baseball.
Could he just drop his cleats and say, you know what,
let me pick this back back up and get back
on and see could that possibly take place?
Speaker 5 (13:53):
It's a possibility. It is a possibility. I mean I
should I don't know. I don't know about that. But
the Arizona Call is gonna have some decisions to make
moving forward, especially you just really don't see, uh, this team,
you know, really just kind of taking the next steps, uh,
(14:17):
you know, for supremacy in the NFC West. And I
believe when they gave him that contract, nobody thought that
it would be this or would take this long. Because
you thought that Kyler Murray would continue to grow, you know,
as a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
And and and get.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Better, and now you're surrounding him with with weapons. Obviously
Marvin Harrison Jr. And I believe it's it's a Hollywood Brown.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
They have.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
No no, it's Martin Harrison Jr. It's Michael Wilson, it's
Trey McBride. Those that are basically three pass catchers. Yeah,
so you know you have a run a game. You know,
obviously Connor is hurt.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
But I just don't see see how moving forward a
fe're the Arizona Cardinals, even though you owe him to
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(15:20):
one thing I do know is Marvin Harrison Junr. Is
a tremendous talent and they have to be able to
find a way to get this young man going, you know, offensively.
And now you see Jacoby just going out and having
the success that he has and he's building confidence. That's
what you want to see from your young players that
(15:40):
you bring in that you draft high. The question is
going to be why is Kyler Murray not having the
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(17:28):
did this past trade deadline was like the NBA? It
felt like National Football We very rarely do you see trades,
and if you do see trades, it's just smaller name players.
But this this trade deadline season, the Jet's basically says,
you know what, fire sale is giving away our best
(17:51):
two players, who's gonna offer us the most? And they
trade Sauce Gardner to the Coats, They trade Quinn Williams
to the Cowboys, And to me, it feels like one
do you like the moves?
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Two who won the trades?
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Well, I mean you would have to say that you know,
Dallas won the trades with you know, everybody that they
have acquired since the season has begun I mean, I
just like you said, I think for the New York
jetson Woody Woody Johnson man in this organization, the rumblings
of you know, sell the team and you know, all
(18:36):
of these things, and the fans not showing up to
the games, and it's it's it's getting real bad. That's
what I'm gonna say up here in Upper Northeast. Because
you know, you bring in a brand new head coach.
I believe at this point they're one and seven or
one in eight. Uh, you trade for for Justin Fields.
(18:57):
Everybody knows he hasn't been playing well this you and
for the last you know, few seasons. The Jets have
on paper been the best one of the best defenses
in football, but they just haven't gotten the results. And
you say to yourself, if you're the Dallas Cowboys moving forward,
I would say that you got the better end of
(19:18):
the deal. But I'm just looking at this team, the
three five and one, there was eleventh in the NFC.
They're probably not going to make the playoffs. You got
a brand new, first year head coach and Brian Schottenham
and when I said the decision was made to hire
him as the head coach, I've never thought that Brian
(19:40):
Shottenhama has been an elite play caller. I mean even
with Russell Wilson in Seattle. Obviously I was here with
them with the Jets. You know, he's the officer court
named the Indian with Andrew Luck and those offenses have
never really been, you know, top tier. And you look
at Jack Prescott and he having you know, they would
(20:01):
say one of the best seasons of his career, but
it's not you know, uh, cultivating wins. And that's a problem.
But for Dallas, you can't stop the run. You can't
run it. I don't know what you're gonna you can't cover.
So since the beginning of the season, you're bringing Kenny Club.
Everybody knows. You trade Michael Parsons, you trade for Logan Wilson,
(20:24):
You add Quinn Williams, you add Sauce Gardner, all defense,
all defensively, all defensive moves. You bolsted your line of
scrimmage with obviously Quinn, who's all pro nosed. God, you're
bringing Logan Williams. You have Kenny Clark, So what's gonna
be your excuse me?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Moving forward?
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Defensive view of the Dallas Cowboys and you cannot stop
the run or control the passing game in the back
end of your defense. When you have Soft Gardner and
tray Von Diggs, there's no more excuses for the Dallas
Cowboys defensively.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Gardner with the Coats, he not with the Cowboys. I mean, yeah,
the other corner is don In Trademond Diggs my best.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
But defensively, I just don't see how you can continue
to make excuses.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
You've made all.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
These moves on the defensive side of the football and
you can't stop anybody. And they say, Dak prest to
have one of the best little crib but if you
can't stop anybody, it doesn't make any difference. So I
would say that Dallas one the the h at the
trade deadline. But at some point in time, you're going
(21:36):
to have to be able to look yourself from the
face and say, there are no more excuses for Dallas.
You have Dak, you have CD, you have you know,
all pro at corner, you have an all pro.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Uh, you know on a defensive line.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
You have to be able to weigh have to find
a way to have all these trades or or acquiring
these players translate into wins and right now and right
now for the Dallas Cowboys, they are not winning enough
football games right now to be taking seriously in the
NFC if they wanted to make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Did the Cowboys get better?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
We'll we'll talk the Jets, the Jets trade to the
Coats for Sauce Gardner in a second, But I'm gonna
focus on the Cowboys right now. In Quinn Williams, did
they get better? Add in Quinn Williams, Yeah, they did,
they did they for they for sure got better. Quinn
Quinn Williams is a top five defensive tackle in the league.
And in no order you would say Chris Jones, Jeffrey Simmons,
(22:39):
Quinn Williams. I know I'm missing one, Chris Jones, Jeffrey Simmons,
Quinn Williams. Uh, he's one of the top five defensive
tackles in the league, that's for sure. Jalen Carter, that's
it with the Eagles to me, those are the best
disruptors in the interior on the defensive line guys. And
(23:02):
so they got better. But the Cowboys weakness is in
the secondary. That's their weakness is in the secondary. Dron Bland.
They gave him a nice contract this offseason, and Deron
Bland has not been playing well.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Tray Von Diggs had that one great year where he.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Had all those interceptions, but he can't get healthy now
he's been hurt. And so, yeah, you have two really
good defensive tackles and Quinn Williams and Kenny Clark.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Where's your edge pressure?
Speaker 4 (23:35):
They don't have that, but Quinn Williams as well as
Kenny Carr, they can get pressure for the materiy. They
can get pressure. But your glaring weakness is in the secondary.
And so yeah, did they get better. Yes, they need
help on the secondary. Man, they need help in the
back end because we can we just match protect and
then now we'll just kill your corners because they can't cover.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
They cannot cover.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
And some will say the Marcus Lawrence and Michael Parsons
is a big reason those corners were having field days
and career years because the quarterbacks so much that the
ball is coming out, and so now these guys are
having career years now that the pressure isn't as consistent
as it once was. We don't see those interceptions. We're
(24:24):
not seeing the pbu's past breakups on the back end,
and so for me with the Cowboys, they got better.
But in that sense when when when you look at it,
they traded Micah Parsons and a first round pick and
a second round pick, and they received a first round
(24:45):
pick Quinn Williams and Kenny Clark, I would say they
won that.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
And also they.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Gave up Mazie Smith to the Jets, who was a
first round pick. And so I would have preferred me
personally to have Micah in this city situation.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
And to touch on what you said.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
About Shotenheimer, I agree with you with his play calling
in his ability. When he was in Seattle, Pete Carroll
let him go because he didn't like the way that
he called plays. But I'll be honest, I've been impressed
with the way he's called plays with the Cowboys this season.
I think he's done a hell of a job mixing
up the run. In the past, Dak is playing as
good as he's ever played, and so I'll give him credit.
(25:24):
I think he's done well this year, but in years past,
I thought he's been just okay. And the Cowboys Jerry
Jones wants to justify this, justify trade and Michael Parsons,
which very Rarely do you see one of the top
players at his position traded in his prime when he
has at least five, six, seven great years ahead of them.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
You just don't see that in the National Football League.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
We gonna get to Sauce Gardner and the coach, but
before we do, we got to talk to our guy
Illo on these updates. Isaac below end Crown, what you
got for us?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Hello?
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Fellas. By the way, where's that other guy?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah? Here we go. I'm like, man, they wasn't even
bringing you in the right way. I'm almost like, hey,
what's going on?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
I prefer I prefer a dramatic entrance. So, speaking of
that other guy, how about this number two Indiana and
Penn State remain scoreless with four minutes and forty five
seconds left to play in the first quarterer, Man, look
at what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I'm laying it down.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Oh there's Laura elsewhere. How about this Mississippi State out
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Here's how on station WZLA Topson from the slot, Taylor.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Takes a hand off to Tompson, running straight ahead of
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Speaker 6 (27:00):
Get State to six nothing lead over Georgia, and Mississippi
State now leading fifth rank Georgia seven to three with
five minutes left to play in the first quarter, and
fellas Georgia fans are not amused. These postings courtesy of
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(27:20):
is playing Texas next week, So at Dirty Birds eighty four,
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two has another theory, posting quote, why are cowbells allowed
in the stands at Mississippi State? Seems mighty strange to
(27:43):
prohibit artificial noisemakers but blatantly allow it for one university.
Is it just a sympathetic concession from the SEC because
they have not been a threat? Moost years unquote? So
that's at Palmeadow Dog two weighing in where number eight
Texas Tech has a three to nothing lead over seventh
ranked BYU with three minutes left to play in the
(28:06):
first quarter. All yours, guys.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Man, this college football once it starts getting to this
point of the season, none but great matchups. Love to
see it. Now, plex, let's unpack this sauce Gardner to
the Coats. I'm gonna go first here on this one.
I really like this trade, man, I really I feel
like I feel like, did the Coats give up a lot?
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
But you know what this You give up two ones
and a donne Ady Mitchell eighty Mitchell can play. I
know he fell out of favor when he dropped that ball,
but boy, he can play. So it feels like they
gave up a lot. But you know what this tells
me about the Coats that organization. They feel like they
can do something this year. When you make a move
like this, you really feel like you have a chance.
(28:58):
And with lou Ana Roumo calling that defense, who we
scape go to the Cincinnati last year when he could
really coach and he's showing that now that's another subject.
When you have him as your defensive coordinator and the
way the Coats have been playing now, it's just been
reported that the Forest Bunkner is going on ir So
(29:20):
that's going to hurt him and hurt him a lot
because he's a force up front. But when you acquire
salce Gardner great first two years in the league, and
then he's kind of just been up and down. But
now you have you refresh. When you go to a team,
you go from one to seven to seven and two.
You go from one to seven and seven and two. Man,
you walking into the building smiling, excited. Sauce Gardner has
(29:42):
never really experienced winning. He's never been in the playoffs.
He's going to get that opportunity now with the coach,
and so we might see a better sauce Gardener than
we've ever seen. He's playing with really good players. He's
always played with good players on the defensive side of
the ball. He's just never had an offense now that
can put up points and force the other team to
(30:04):
have to throw the ball. That's what's about to happen
now with the coach. They're gonna put up points. He's
gonna have more opportunity to make more plays because his
team now.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Is gonna score more points. So for me, I love
this move.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
For the coach, yeah, you gave up a lot, but
if you're as good as you think you're gonna be
in the next few years, that means those picks will
be later first round picks, And why are the coach
telling us something we're moving on from Anthony Richson and
Daniel Jones is our quarterback because people forget Anthony Richard
was a very high draft pick.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
We moving on. They're telling us that without saying.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
It, well, I mean the season that Damon Jones is
having right now. Man, they're seven and two. Since the
last time Peyton Manning was a franchise quarterback for this organization.
I mean, they're not gonna take him out of the
game and replace them with Anthony Richison coming off Andrey.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
That's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
But I do like to move by the coachsman that
they're currently ring web. I believe seventeenth defensively giving up
three hundred and thirty thirty yards of you know, on defense,
and twenty one points defensively. Man, I really think it's
a great move by them because sauts gotten.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I think him playing here for the Jets, he was
reeling a little bit.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
It's tough to get up and go to work every
day and every morning and compete and know that you know,
you know, in the back of your mind, you're just
you know, you're you're not playing for anything. I think
I've been in that situation, you know, mentally or in
the physically, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Playing for twelve years.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
I played on great teams and every every year we
had I had an opportunity to go to the playoffs,
and you could kind of see that the effort was starting.
His effort wasn't there, And I believe that he goes
for worse to first. The coach are what's seven and two.
(32:04):
I believe they are first place in the AFC right now,
and now you wake up, you're refreshed, you have something
to play for. And I think defensively for the coach,
if they can slow down some of these offenses, it
will translate into more wins for this offense, you know,
especially if they can slow people down defensively. But I
(32:24):
believe this man, everybody right now in that organization is
being held accountable because I really believe, like carly Er said, Gordon, she.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Knows what she's doing. She's been around for life.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
You can't say what you want, but when she's on
the sideline taking notes and she's on the headset, she's
holding everybody accountable for all communication that goes to the headset,
whether you on offense, special teams or defense.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
She's been around football her whole life.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
She knows it, she understands it, and now now everybody
is in tune.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Everybody's giving them the best effort.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
I've been on a handset during some of these games
when I want to play man. The ruckers that go
through these hairdsets between coaches, you wouldn't believe some of
the things that they're saying on game things. And now
she's sitting there listening to it all. She said, I'm
(33:28):
wearing a hairdset because I need to see or hear.
Who was full of bs? Do they even know what
they're talking about? Do you know what the meaning that
is to an NFL coach that who's been coaching for
twenty thirty years?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Do you think they're talking crazy with her?
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Absolutely, the whole rhetoric, the whole dialogue has changed.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
When these coaches are on the headset, they have to
watch what they says.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Behavior now, huh, no doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
And even some of the players are camp Bondam can't
come out of say, man, this is the most involved
I've ever seen an owner of my NFL career. And
I really believe that this is one of the reasons
why they are where there are. I mean, Daniel Jones
is having a season that nobody thought he would have,
you know, respectfully, But.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
I believe that.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Ersay Gordon on the headset is really one of those
things that everybody is being held accountable too from a
communication standpoint that basically they gotta watch what they say.
(34:43):
And she has already come out and say I need
to hear who is full of bs?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
And do they know what they're doing? Yes?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
And from a coach, now you now you're in the
meeting rooms on your and you'll dot in your eye
and crossing your tee's because you know that she is
hearing everything that is going back and forth between these
coaches and there're seven and two. Nobody predicted the coach
(35:14):
would even be in the picture because everybody had already
jumped out the window and picked the Houston Texas to
win the AFC South. But man, you gotta like it.
It's a defensive move and I really believe that Carley
Erthay Gordon, she knows exactly what she's doing on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
If you're a player, they're going for it, and you
play for the coach you love it man that I'll
say that you love the fact that they believe in
what y'all can do and they're going for it, and
so kudos to the Indianapolis coach.
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I want to know what you think he you, guys,
(37:53):
went to the same school. He's an NBA champion, but
he has some words to say about mister Dak Prescott.
I don't want to put words in his mouth. I'm
gonna just let us and let everybody hear what he
had to say for themselves. Y'all had to say, what
what what? What's your boy Drake mind talking about with
Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Dak's a bump.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Ohak's not a bum.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
He's an MVP candidate. Yeah, that's fine. He get him
some numbers and they stink. Do He's not a dumb dog.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
He's a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
No, he's a bullet.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
They're number one with that. You're too smart and you
know too much about football to say Dak Prescott's a bomb.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
I won four championships, Jordan, so you gotta understand when
I say bump. I'm not saying Dak Prescott isn't a
good NFL quarterback. Of course, he's a good NFL quarterback.
I'm not saying that, But I'm saying, when the money's
on the line, when it's for all the marbles, who
are you he a bum?
Speaker 3 (38:45):
I totally disagree. I totally What has he done in
those moments, then a bum he is?
Speaker 7 (38:50):
If he's not a bomb in the moments, Jordan, when
they had their best teams, best offensive line to league.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
They had all that to get to playoffs in here, bull.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
But the story isn't fully rich.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
It is pretty written because now he's making sixty five
million dollars and it's way harder to win, Like you
gotta be so like Patty Mahome's good to be like
that highly paid and still go win like that's a
very hard thing to do.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Like it's over man Draymond winning on Dak Prescott. I'm
not I don't believe that Scott is a bomb at all.
Y'all ball for Michigan State Sparks. We know Drakemond is
a fan of the game, with football, extremely outspoken.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Man, what's your thoughts?
Speaker 5 (39:34):
Hey Man, that's cuffle call him the second off strangler,
ak hey day day whatever you want to call him.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Man, that's my guy. Man.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
I love him to death, you know, obviously, and getting
to know him and know him personally, you know, he's
always going to be very candid about how he feels
about you, me, anybody else, or whatever the case may be.
But I mean, I'm not a Dallas Cowboys fan by
any stretch of imagination, but I don't he's not a bum.
(40:07):
I think I believe that what he's trying to say
is that his pay hasn't resonated into wins, playoff wins,
or getting to a championship game or winning a Super Bowl.
I believe that's what he's trying to say when he's
calling Dak Presley out a bump. He's not a bum.
(40:30):
They just haven't, you know, won the NFC's made a
deep playoff run and got into the play championship game
or Super Bowl. That's what Draymond Green is saying. If
you know him, you understand him and his rhetoric and
what he's trying to get across. But I don't believe
(40:51):
that he he believes that Dak Prescott is a bum.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
He just hasn't won the big games. No, yeah, we
all know Dak is not a bum at all. Has
he come up short? Yeah he has. I'm a lot
of guy, had a lot of players have. But I'll
say this, when when you're making sixty million a year,
a lot is expected of you.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
When you're the highest paid quarterback in the league, your
team isn't winning playoff games, and.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
A lot of the time you're part of you're the biggest.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Reason they're not because you're throwing interceptions, you're turning the
ball over. Then the criticism is warranted. But a bumb
is a stretch. He's nowhere near a bumb. So hey, Dre, mind,
you can have your opinion. We got to end this.
First side will be back up on game Fox Sports Radio. Paxico.
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