May 28, 2022 • 42 mins
LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress debate if there is an issue with Lamar Jackson skipping voluntary OTAs. The guys react to the latest developments in the Deshaun Watson case. Watson gifts a Rolex for his number, and Plaxico reveals how he got 17 with the Giants. Plus, the guys discuss the latest in the NBA playoffs!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the NBA, the Warriors, well they're returning
to the NBA Finals. The heat shocks, everybody forces a
Game seven. I want to hear about that. We're gonna
talk about that. Should the NFL eliminate the Pro Bowl,
we'll we'll discuss this. Deshaun Watson he used the time piece,
uh a Rolex rot watch for something other than well
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timing his sessions. I will get to that as well.
And Lamar Jackson responds to the critics. You know O
t A s to go or not to go to
a voluntary O t A all that more coming up
first hour here we go up on Game. You want
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NFL experience, then this is the show for you. This
is Up on Game with Labarreri, tent t J, hush
Binzana and Blaxa Coo Burress. Did you hear that, LaVar Arrington,
t J, hudgsmans Otta, Plexico burs It's a show with
three of the best to ever do it on and
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off the field. And now here's Pro Bowlers Lavarrey, t J, Hushman,
Sanna and super Bowl Chiffi and Plaxico Burress. All right,
welcome into our one of Up on Game as you
heard our intro, which is so darned fine. My man,
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t J. Hudsman's otta plex co burst in the house.
I'm LaVar Arrington. Will be witching for a little bit,
and you can follow us on the Twitter. I'm LaVar Arrington,
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Radio app, Sirius x M eighty three. All Right, in
a matter of moments, fellas, we're gonna get uh, well,
some critics, Chris Sims, you had some interesting comments and
Lamar had an interesting come back to it. We'll get
that to that in a matter of moments. But Deshaun
Watson will talk about that, and then we'll talk about
a few more things that are NFL related and the
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NBA fellas before we get going, Sam Ryan ILOs Heir,
how's that? How the hell is everybody doing? Man? How
how is how is it? How is the crew? How
is the village? Man? Everybody good? Oh we are good man? Yeah,
it's good to see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what's up?
T J. What's up? What's up? What's up? Stretch with?
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What how you doing? How you? How? How is Mr LaVar?
Mr LaVar is good? Business is good? Business is real good?
And why did that sounds like Ryan? Ryan just has
a big smile on his face, because he always has
a big smile on his face. And I gotta tell you,
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you know, I was Sam. He has a big smile
on his face usually too, but he looks way different
um with his hair, his his smile and his his
stuff without his his ayowa hat on. I mean, he
cut it a little while ago, but he's he's maintaining it.
M was a all right, grab the mike, Grab the mike.
I was that because a couple of days ago, I
gotta I gotta ask like, are you in a relationship,
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like do you have a girlfriend or you know, do
you have a relationship thing going? I was last year,
I was in a long relationship. I am now a
are you treating single man? So? Are you working on
the free agency market? Is that why you have this
look going? That's it's like very studious. Well, oh thank you? Well,
you know, you know I get my haircut maybe every
four to six months, you know, It's like a tree.
It gets pruned every every once in a while. I
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like it grown out a little bit. But yeah, I
did this. I'm going to a wedding next month. Pause,
there you go. So I'm trying to I've lost a
little weight. You know, got my haircuts? Hey, well, y'all
was in the dating game? How did y'all wear y'all here? Man?
Do you remember how you look before? When you know
why you was was in the game? Just just curious, man,
I don't. I haven't had a haircut, And twenty four
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years before that, it was just a little just curly
hair on my head, just however it went. But once
I went to junior college, no haircut since then. So
it's been longer than that. Bro, it's ninety nine. Man.
If it ain't corn rolls, is a little faith for me?
As simple you as corn rolled up all the time?
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Oh man, cut I cut him off on my thirtieth birthday.
May remember that, Listen. I got my hair cut on
my thirtieth birthday. I would never forget this. I walked,
I walked out of the field. We go to practice
and they and after practice, they call everybody up and
I take my helmet off and I take a kneel.
Lava was standing up. Man. He looked at me and
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he busts out laughing in the middle of the team meeting.
I said, you'll hold you laughing. He said, maybe like
you twelve years old. You did look like you were twelve.
That's buddy, I remember that too. That was That's some
good times. Man supposed to get a Super Bowl, which
you know, it didn't get. It didn't happen. I had
my hair I started. I had just started to grow
my hair out, and then I went for a fourteen
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year run where my dreads had had gotten all the
way down to like below my back, you know, and
then I cut it off after fourteen years. But yeah, anyways,
I digress us thought an interesting tale of of hair
because you know, we got pantin Man himself. I have
no idea why up on game and t J. Hushman's
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Ida has not become the face or spokesperson for a
hairline product. Uh. I'm putting that out there just just
so it's it's disgusting it's talked about. Um and as
far as with Plexico Burd's I'm just I'm just mad that, uh,
you know, There hasn't been anything that's come out in
terms of how you stretch yourself out or how you
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get a little bit taller. When you wish that you
wanted to be a baller and and you wish you
look good, you would call her, you know, and you
wish you had a rabbit in a hat with a
bat with a six four in pola. All right, hey
look here man, let mar Jackson fellas this this came
out and it's been being talked about. Uh. He's had critics.
He he hasn't been at O T s. There's been
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conversations surrounding him not getting a deal done, even though
it sounds as though the Baltimore Ravens want to get
a deal done. It seems as though a lot of
things are being blamed. You know, a lot of people
know that he doesn't have uh an official agent. His
mother represents him. I'm not sure if she still does,
but she has represented him as his agent. And and
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there have been some criticisms that have now uh surfaced
based upon him not being at organized training. Um, what
is that call O T as activities? Yeah, there you go.
Organized team activities, which are by the way, right now
voluntary so, uh, y'all's boy. You know, y'all know him.
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You know he's a good, good dude. You know, it's
a lineage guy. Chris Simms had a few things that
he had to say about it. Uh, here's what he
had to say. And I've heard Lamar Jackson say he
wants to win super Bowls. He wants to win a
bunch of Super Bowls. I mean, I think there was
a time where he was like, I want to be
like Brady. He remember him saying that early in his career, Well,
Brady wouldn't be missing O t A s and year
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four of his career. I just that's where I want
to say to some of these young quarterbacks. They always
I hear like, I want to be like Brady. Wanna
have a career like Brady, Well, then do what Brady does.
Brady didn't miss an O t A until he had
played in four Super Bowls, and you know, started to
get married and then started to miss a few O
t A s. But then things didn't go that great
in two thousand and ten and eleven and twelve, and
you know what he started to doing. I'm gonna be
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back at O t A s. I'm gonna get a
little bit better and we need this. That's where just
from the football standpoint, I just don't get it. I
don't at all. Now this this comment did not go
unnoticed by Lamar Jackson Ryan. He had some responses on
social media. What did those consist of? Yes? So Lamar
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retweeted the clip of that that video exactly he said,
Lamar wants to be Mark Chris. This part of otis
is voluntary, My guy, I will be there, just not
on your watch. It's probably other qbs not attending voluntary
o t s either, But since it's Lamar, it's a
huge deal. Find something else to talk about. How how
do you interpret this, fellas? Is this a good move?
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Is it nothing to do at all? Like? What what
would your advice to Lamar um be at this moment?
Oh man? For for me? Number one, Lamar Jackson has
to understand he's Lamar Jacson when he isn't theorist news
because he's a superstar, he's a former m v P.
If he was just a regular old quarterback, not many
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people would care. But because he is who he is,
it's news. So otiers are voluntary and we all know
that stuff is voluntary mandatory. You know. It's like even
we were there, was like you ain't gonna be at
ot as you like, nah, I ain't going your coach
call you. Everybody like, bro, why are you here? What's wrong?
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What they got going on? It's perceived to be a
problem when you're not there, but when you are the quarterback,
it is no longer voluntary. It is in essence a
mandatory event each and every day because you are the quarterback.
Hollywood Brown is gone, and yeah, you've played with those
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receivers and in Rashad Bateman will be your number one
going into this season. But because you're the quarterback, you
just have to be there. He knows that. And there's
been a lot of reports, Oh, the Ravens are ready
to pay him, They're ready to give him his money.
He doesn't want it. I don't believe that to be
the case. The Ravens may be ready to pay him,
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but they must be lowbo on them, because there's just
no way you're ready to give him the contract that
he wants and he's just saying, nah, I want that, man,
go ahead and keep it, will do it next year.
They must be offering him something that he does not
want and so he says, Okay, I'll play the year
out or I'll withhold my services from O T A.
But if you're a quarterback, it's voluntary mandatory. Man. Listen,
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Volunteer means volunteered, and it depends on who you are.
We all know that. And just like t J said, listen,
you you're the franchise quarterback of this organization. Just show up.
Just show your face, even if you're not even practicing
or having a major role going into the seat, I mean,
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going into camp. Just show the guys that you care.
I mean, that's all they really care about. And just
like t J said, I don't know what's going on
with this whole contract situation. Uh you know, I think
that putting themselves in a bad situation, letting Lamar go
into this season and into his last year of his deal,
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and it kind of feels like it's like a like
a Baker Mayfield situation. He's playing his last year of
his deal. He's a former m v P. So something's
not right. You don't resign. You don't resign Sammy Watkins,
you trade Hollywood Brown, Um, you have a rookie center
coming in Titling the bomb. Uh, you're under center five
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with five percent of the snaps in the NFL game,
and he's a seventy four percent qball quarterback, So he
doesn't have any room not to show faith. Listen, if
I'm gonna starting rib Retiva, well he really doesn't have
any Well I say that those guys, those guys are
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still NFL wire receivers, but those are not going to
be the guys that are throwing to you to in
the regular season. So for Lamar, I don't know what's
going on, but I believe the Ravens are kind of
sending him a message to say that, listen, if you
don't improve this year, then we are willing to move
on from you, even though your name is Lamar Jackson.
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That's interesting, but that seems to have become the trend
these days not not take the fifth year option. See
what they're gonna do, and if it works out, you know,
you go from there. I mean, I think both are
great points by both of you. You know. For me,
I I honestly feel like it's a lot of of
as you guys mentioned, it's it's it's a media story,
it's something to talk about, it's the off season. There's
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not gonna be super big stories outside of the ordinary,
normal big stories that are persisting, like you know in
which we'll get to and we'll talk about Deshaun Watson
in the next outer break. But I don't know that
this is right now today a big deal. I think
that Lamar Jackson has proven that he really really does
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love this game and he's just all about the game
and all that other stuff will work itself out. Now. Wow,
I don't know that that is the best business approach
to it. In a way, it's kind of refreshing if
you ask me, but you know, it is what it is.
Shots out respect to Lamar Jackson, I wish him What's what?
What's refreshing? Uh? That he's just he's just being who
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he is, you know what I mean? Like because in
in this day and age, people are forced to be something,
you know, be other things than than what they are.
They're forced to you know, can can uh? What what
is it like? Be a part of what everybody wants
you to do? You gotta do? Now? Do you think
he should be at O t as Uh? Well, if
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it's my opinion as a coach, I would want all
my players there for certain especially my quarterback, because he's
probably the un undisputed leader of the team. So I
would want him there, and I would want him helping
set a tone for two, yeah for for two for two.
I mean, if he's not there, then I would just
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want to feel comfortable with with what our plan is
and our strategy is moving forward because he is that good.
But to Plexico's point seventy four, uh, you know QB rating,
that's that's a that's a tap bit. You know, that's
that's not high enough. And and and we saw we
saw a guy like Josh Allen take a step from
being kind of on the fringe to being like that
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next level guy. I just don't think that for two seconds.
Lamar Jackson isn't doing what he needs to do to
come back and be a better player than what he
has been in in years prior. And I just he
hasn't given me any reason to believe that he doesn't
love this game and love his teammates. Now, I will
say it was curious that he got upset after Hollywood
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Brown was traded, and then it comes back that Hollywood
Brown wanted to be traded. Um, I think there may
be a little bit of confusion that exists there, but
one things for certain, Lamar Jackson loves playing the game
of football. Lamar Jackson is not a victim of a
victimhood type of person. He doesn't live in making himself
a sympathetic figure. Uh. He accepts his challenges. And from
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what I've I've learned of who he is or how
he is through watching him play. I like. I like
his approach, I like his man metality. And I'm just
leaning in that without having all of the details of it.
Nobody's dealting his love to play. I know, I get no,
I get not at all. Yeah, we're not saying that
at all. But also, look at what they've given him
to work with. Yeah, I mean, and and that may
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be in the back of his mind. Also, it's like,
how do y'all expect me to get better? He might
want to leave and improve. He might want to leave,
you know. And Bateman is my number one one Bateman
is his number one receiver, right Hey, anyway, we're we're
gonna get to another quarterback that is well, he's got
a whole lot of cash, a whole lot of scratch.
You got a whole lot of things going on, money man. Yeah,
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I guess he got he got that Rolex money. And
we'll we'll discuss that on the other side of his
breaking and man coming up after a while, we'll talk
about the NFL Pro Bowl. I'll be interested to hear.
I mean, plexy, they kept snubbing you and and that
was kind of strange, but you know, tubbing, yeah, well,
robbing you, snubbing, whatever you wanna call it. You know
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they're stealing from stealing from you. You call it that,
you know, t J you aid, and it will we'll
have that conversation. Yeah, and and and you know, you know,
if you want to put money in your pocket, you
want to make sure you have the health to do it.
You know. For me, my looks, you know, my my amazing,
strikingly good looks is the reason why I keep putting
some cash in my pocket. Jaw. So, you know, I've
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Radio dot com. Check us out, all right, Fellas Deshaun
Watson I mentioned I mentioned in the first segment, you
know there there are the stories that will will drive
on Power through the off season until football comes back.
Deshaun Watson is one of those those stories that will continue.
Now there there is a story of twofold going on.
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Just this past week Real Sports with and moving on,
Bryan Gumble, Uh had a situation, Well, I had an
interview with one of the you know, I guess verst
is it? Is it one of one of the accusers?
Is it a couple of the accusers? I think it
was maybe at least one or a few, at least one,
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a couple that speak out. We have sounds from one
of them, Okay, and and and he also wanted his
jersey number. And that was a story and a topic
that surface this week as well, where he gave uh,
what what what's the story? What's the story on the rolex.
Let's talk about this. So Anthony Walker, linebacker for the Browns,
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was originally number four, which is of course the Shaun
Watson's number and the sec and that Walker heard that
Watson was coming to Cleveland, he texted him and said,
welcome to Cleveland, number four, basically saying that he was
going to give him his jersey number. And then the
other day during Walker's press conference, Watson came up gifted
him a rolex and also gave a fifty thousand dollar
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donation to a high school that Walker's dad works in. Okay,
So let's so let's start there before we go to
real sports. Before we're moving on, let's let's start right here. Uh, fellas,
what's your takeaway on that? You know, the walking up
during the press conference, given the rolex and then announcing
a contribution to to the high school his dad works at.
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How How y'all how are y'all viewing that? I'm gonna
tell you what I want to tell you, how I
feel about it, what I tell you to tell me?
Got his own money. He got five years to thirty
forty four million on a sign of bonus. When you
got to the like that man you can put out
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of your teammates on the private plan. You canna take
him down to Atlantis. You can pay fifty thousand dollars
for your jersey number number four. And I guess you know,
he's just he's been Deshaun Wasson, He's he's been a
great teammate. Listen. I would never pay fifty thousand dollars
to get my number. But when I did go on
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to the New York Giants to ask me what number
did I want, and I said, you know what, I'm
gonna go outside of the box. I want seventeen. It
was like, why do you want seventeen? I said, well,
it's gonna be one of the greatest free agency signers
in a New York Giant history. And I signed on
March seventeen. So I did get my number, but I
didn't have to pay anything for it. Jeff Figgles would
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tell you differently. But moving on fifty thousand dollars for
a jersey, I never knew that. I never knew that
was why you took seventeen. Yep. I signed on March seventeen. Wow,
I thought I was gonna be one of the greatest
free agency acquisitions for the giants to remember our on
the phone call. It didn't work that way, you know,
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you ap got me to come there, It didn't work
out that way for me. You know, I was starting
to do the word bawling thing and get my jumper
in line, and then I blew my achilly tended that
when when I when I was landing, and it just
didn't just didn't work out that way for me. But
but but t J, would you give up your number?
Forty all roles? Yeah, you can take my number, bro
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straight up, just take it for fifty in a row.
He just just come take it, huh Man asked, and
its shorts. There's no question, like I don't get and
I get it. The Shaun Watson, he he should have
enough money, he's coming. You just never know what people
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may do. So I say he should where he set forever.
But I'm not giving up fifty dollars in or in
the probably twenty five thirty thousand dollar watch for a number.
I'm just I'm not doing it. But if I I
wish still playing that somebody wanted tell you said it.
So he gifted him with a fifty thousand rolex. But
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he also made a fifty thousand all the donation. Now
that's what I want, And I'm glad you brought that
up because I want I want you guys to tell
is this a PR stunt? Like? I hate that. I
hate that. I don't want to spend it in a
negative way because we don't want to touch about what
happened on real sports. But if it's a PR stunt,
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I mean it could be. We we don't know. You mean,
you got to talk to the parties that are involved.
But what's your opinion on it? I know, we don't
know Mann anything that helped to Deshaun Watson at this
point be seeing in the better light he is willing
to do. Did he accomplish that? Do you feel like
he accomplished that? I mean, he wants to be seen
as a as as a character person, as a character guy.
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He's came out of said that several times. Is that
possible at this point? It's everything is can be, you know,
I mean, it depends on where you fall in what
he's been accused of it, It depends on where you
fall in. What's your opinion. I'm glad you said I
and I'm glad you said that because here here is
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is what took place. Burst set set the stage for us.
But you know we'll we'll get the I low. We're
coming to you soon, I promised the legendary Isaac Loewen
kron uh Birst set set the stage for the Real
Sports situation. Please sure? Yeah? Here is sounds from Ashley's
a lease one of Deshaun Watson's accusers on Real Sports
on HBO. He ends up exposing himself and I hurried
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up and covered him with the towel and he said, oh,
you don't have to worry about the towel. I said, yes,
I do so. Then what happened. He requested that I
work on his abdomen, but the moment I went above
his navel, he told me he didn't want me to
work there. He wanted me to work lower. He just
kept directing me to go lower and don't be scared,
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you can go in there like and I just started
really phrasing up at this point, can you explain that?
Like a wave just took over my body. I felt
so hot, I was sweating. Um. It was getting more
and more clear that this is not what I signed
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up for. Isn't that what I thought? The session was
going to be all right. Now, there's a lot of
ways to interpret that. You can interpret it from the
literal standpoint, um, taking that face value, you can read
into it. You know, there there will be a lot
of questions, a lot of angles. Here's what Deshaun Watson's
representation had to say in response to all of this
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that took place with real sports interviews of the accusers.
As he testified in his depositions last week. Yes, he
has no regrets because he did nothing wrong. He did
nothing wrong in these massages. And although to your first question,
how can he be innocent? I think the real question
is what evidence is there of any guilt? Two grand
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juries and two separate jurisdictions looked at these cases and
found that there was no credible evidence that a crime
had occurred. And I'll tell you, based on our civil investigation,
our civil discovery, there's no credible evidence that Mr Watson
should be held civilly liable. I mean, I mean she
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came kind of hard, you know, no pun intended by
the way, um, but she she was very aggressive in
her response to uh to what has taken place now
somewhat debate the idea that Deshaun Watson is not culpable
of some wrong doing here, uh, based upon the fact that,
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just so everybody's clear, there has been the understanding that
there was consensual um considerably consensual you know. Okay, all right,
I got already been dumped. But it's kind of funny. Uh.
But but the the idea of of of him getting
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a paying for a massage air quotes paying for the massage,
but it ended up being um consensual um relations as
you said that that, I mean, that's constitutes prostitution. I
mean that's so at the bare minimum, there has been
a rule that had a law that in that situation
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that both of them, not just not just the Shaun Watson,
but both of them have have broke a law. If
we're going by the letter of what the law would
say in terms of you know, how that whole interaction
of paying for a service like that would go. Um
was this I mean listening to the accuser and and
(27:52):
and giving her account because you never wanna minimize or
diminish a survivor of something of this, this, this magnitude
of of this, you know this happening. Do you buy it?
Do you guys buy it? Dude? Is this is this
damning information. The lawyer makes a strong point in the
(28:13):
sense that he has not been held you know, or
nobody found and with the grand juries or whatever enough
if evidence to say that this is a prosecutable uh
offense by Deshaun Watson. But we all know that does
not mean that he did not do something wrong. He
(28:33):
may have been morally wrong. But if you're not being
charged for doing what you've been accused of, where's the problem? Well,
the problem is is that you just that they don't
feel like there's enough evidence that can prove and and
and that, and that's the thing you have to prove it.
(28:55):
If you don't have enough beyond a reasonable correct then
how are you going to charge me? How are you
gonna try to hold me responsible? When it's been investigated
and there's nothing there at least that's what's been reported
to be charged. And obviously two grand juries failed to
(29:15):
charge him. And if these women feel like they were violated,
I empathize with him. But ultimately, if he had committed
a crime, you know, good and darn well, he'd be
on trial right now. Morally you can say he's wrong,
But breaking the law and doing things I don't see
(29:37):
it because he has yet to be charged. Can I
ask you guys a question like and and I want
to be careful and how I do this? And you
have to be careful because and we've spoken on this,
especially you and Olive are we got three I got
three daughters, and so like, I try to be as
sensitive as I can in this situation, but then I
(29:58):
also have to be on us and say how I
feel because we all have been athletes, and we all
have been in situations and we all know what it
is unless that man was not allowing these these young
ladies to leave exactly all right, here's here's here's why
we asked. I just want to I just want to
know what it is, though we know what it is
like that and and that's what's hard for me. I
(30:20):
just want to ask this question. When I was listening
to the account being given and you said that you
knew that this is what you didn't sign up for,
why did you not leave, like at that point in time,
getting your payment, finishing the job, walking out of the door.
Why would you not get up out of there? Um?
Like when I say get up out of there, I
(30:42):
mean run up out of there, like run and you
don't have clothes. Also, he ain't chasing you outside, not
on not only running get up out of there, but
maybe even down nine one one, you know, called called
the authorities like she's not being against a weird And
that's what I'm saying. If that that, if that has
(31:03):
not come out performing a service. And at the end
of the day, man we were we don't well, we
will never know the truth of what happened. But what
the grand jury and what the criminal justice system is
telling us about all the allegations is that these things
didn't occur. And that is I mean, that's the whole
(31:26):
point of this whole DeShawn Watson situations. A It's a
tough situation for everybody to begin and maybe they are victims,
maybe they're not. But all we can go off of
is what we know, and that is what the grand
jury has voted on and told everybody around the world
(31:51):
that he's not guilty. So what else are we going
to say or think? I just think that the court
of public opinion in these situations. And listen, I know survivors,
right and like you mentioned, t J, you know we
also have daughters. This is a very very complex topic.
(32:11):
You can't take a side on it because I know
it from both sides. I know it from both sides.
I know it from a guy who you know that
they're wrongly accused. And how do I know? I know
because I was there. But I also know it from
the side of a survivor who really went through some really,
(32:32):
really horrible, ugly experiences connected to things such as this.
It's a very difficult topic to broach and breach, but
we you know, it'll continue to evolve, Will will continue
to talk through it. But right now we gotta jump
and get to my man, Isaac Loyd crawling for our trending.
What what do we got today? My friend? We got
(32:53):
a Game seven in the Eastern Conference Finals thanks to
Jimmy Butler of the Miami Heat, dropping forty seven on
Friday Night in Game six as his Miami Heat one
at Boston one eleven to one oh three. Butler also
with nine rebounds, eight assists in four steals. Game seven
on Sunday in Miami. Off the court, multiple outlets report
(33:13):
the Los Angeles Lakers have hired Darvin ham as their
new head coach. Hamm spent the last nine seasons as
an assistant coach with the Milwaukee Bucks to Major League
Baseball games underway right now. The Washington Nationals of five
three lead over the Colorado Rockies are just in the
top of the second inning in the first game of
a double header in the Baltimore Orioles, also in the
first game of a double header, have a one nothing
(33:35):
lead over the Red Sox in the bottom of the
second inning at Fenway. Finally, guys, do you do you
have your popcorn ready? Final item? On Friday, Cincinnati Reds
outfielder Tommy fam slapped San Francisco Giants outfielder Jack Peterson
(33:57):
in the outfield during batting practice before the game due
to a disagreement about their fantasy football league. It's funny
as hell. I mean, I gotta admit that's funny as
hal slap. So here is wi exit precisely, precisely down
(34:18):
to the fundamentals of the arc of the arm. Here
my fantasy football team out. Here's Peterson explaining the dispute
after the very good, very good Peterson. Here he is
explaining what happened after the game. And this artist this
audio courtesy of NBC Sports Bay Area. Enjoy I put
(34:39):
somebody on the Indrew reserved when they were listed as
out and added another player. And there's a text message
in the group saying that I was cheating. I don't know.
I looked up the rules and sent a screenshot out.
The rules out says that when the players ruled out,
you're allowed to put him on the I R. He
had a player, Jeff Wilson, who was out, and he
(35:01):
had him on the I R. And I said, you
literally have the same thing on your tea on your bench.
He was listens out. So it's like, it's feels very
similar to what I did. And that was basically all
of it. There's not much more to it. Priorities can't
Tommy fam Tommy family is a Deboa baseball Hey, hey,
(35:27):
early earlier in the year. I never forget this is
something happened with the Padres because Tommy family used to
play with the Padres last year. I think dude name
was Luke Void, and he was like, if Luke wants
to settle it, we can get down. I get down
really well in anything. They know they know what I'm about. Well,
I'll tell you what we're gonna talk about. These Warriors,
and we want to talk about this game. Seven on
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that boy Jimmy Butler, he's a grown ass man. Bro.
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Welcome back into the show, Welcome back into Up on Game,
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I'll make sure you stay locked in, tuned in. Uh
last night. You know, all week, everybody's been making the
whole joke about it's over, Boston is gonna go play, Uh,
you know, play the Warrior is in the in the
(39:00):
championship round. Um, Jimmy Butler, p J. Tucker and all
those guys, they they found themselves uh limping into this
this game six and limped on on top of the
the Boston Celtics for w forcing a game seven. Draymond
Green had obviously came out and had the quote basically
(39:23):
that you know, it was a foregone conclusion they'd be
playing Boston. No one gave the Heat a chance. They
pulled it out. Uh what's y'alls takeaway from the game?
What are y'all thinking? Can they actually put the magic
together to to do it again one more time? In
in Miami for for the series finale, Man Jimmy Butler
(39:45):
refused to let his team lose. I mean it was
as simple as that he was the best player on
the court yesterday he refused to let the Miami Heat lose.
He's gonna eat another performance like that? Can you do it?
And you looked at with game six. I believe in
games three and four, Jimmy Butler did not play well. Um,
I believe Boston has a better team. But when you're
(40:07):
playing a Game seven at home, you never know what
can happen. But if Jimmy Butler, obviously, if he plays
the way he played yesterday, he's gonna in. But I
believe Boston has a better team. Man. I don't think
anybody in this series has won back to back games. Yeah,
nobody has won back to back games. But if I
(40:27):
got to go to anybody in this series, man, because
I couldn't pick this series after Game one, it's like
every game was being won by twenty or thirty points.
But if I'm gonna go with somebody, I gotta go
with defense, and that's gonna be the Miami Heat, you know.
I don't I don't know the availability of Toller Hero,
if he's gonna be able to play or not. But
I just think it's a lot of pressure on Jason
(40:48):
Tatum and Jalen Brown are going there and to be
spectacular in a Game seven. Um, It's like t J said, Man,
Boston has a better team. But just going down to
Miami and playing and playing and playing it. One of
that kind of pression in front of that crowd, understanding
what's on the line. And Jimmy Butler was playing way
(41:11):
two passes and games in the last two games. But
when he asserts himself man that he wants to be
really aggressive and scored the basketball. He's one of the
he's one of the elite players in the league. Man.
So Game seven, ah, I gotta go with Miami. You know,
I'm going with the defense, and I just think they're
(41:35):
going to get it done. I didn't foresee it, you know.
Uh going into the Boston is the Houston Rockets defense.
I feel bad wanting Boston the way because I think
it's gonna be a better game, a better series. I
don't know that to have that much lefe that. I
don't know that Miami will have that much left going
(41:56):
into the finale of a point man stir Errington, Boy,
you know what, we all have great points in our too.
We're gonna make some points about well, I'm gonna teaser
after we come back from the break, So make sure
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, the NBA, the Warriors, well they're returning
to the NBA Finals. The heat shocks, everybody forces a
Game seven. I want to hear about that. We're gonna
talk about that. Should the NFL eliminate the Pro Bowl,
we'll we'll discuss this. Deshaun Watson he used the time piece,
uh a Rolex rot watch for something other than well
(00:25):
timing his sessions. I will get to that as well.
And Lamar Jackson responds to the critics. You know O
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Radio app, Sirius x M eighty three. All Right, in
a matter of moments, fellas, we're gonna get uh, well,
some critics, Chris Sims, you had some interesting comments and
Lamar had an interesting come back to it. We'll get
that to that in a matter of moments. But Deshaun
Watson will talk about that, and then we'll talk about
a few more things that are NFL related and the
(02:10):
NBA fellas before we get going, Sam Ryan ILOs Heir,
how's that? How the hell is everybody doing? Man? How
how is how is it? How is the crew? How
is the village? Man? Everybody good? Oh we are good man? Yeah,
it's good to see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what's up?
T J. What's up? What's up? What's up? Stretch with?
(02:32):
What how you doing? How you? How? How is Mr LaVar?
Mr LaVar is good? Business is good? Business is real good?
And why did that sounds like Ryan? Ryan just has
a big smile on his face, because he always has
a big smile on his face. And I gotta tell you,
(02:53):
you know, I was Sam. He has a big smile
on his face usually too, but he looks way different
um with his hair, his his smile and his his
stuff without his his ayowa hat on. I mean, he
cut it a little while ago, but he's he's maintaining it.
M was a all right, grab the mike, Grab the mike.
I was that because a couple of days ago, I
gotta I gotta ask like, are you in a relationship,
(03:16):
like do you have a girlfriend or you know, do
you have a relationship thing going? I was last year,
I was in a long relationship. I am now a
are you treating single man? So? Are you working on
the free agency market? Is that why you have this
look going? That's it's like very studious. Well, oh thank you? Well,
you know, you know I get my haircut maybe every
four to six months, you know, It's like a tree.
It gets pruned every every once in a while. I
(03:37):
like it grown out a little bit. But yeah, I
did this. I'm going to a wedding next month. Pause,
there you go. So I'm trying to I've lost a
little weight. You know, got my haircuts? Hey, well, y'all
was in the dating game? How did y'all wear y'all here? Man?
Do you remember how you look before? When you know
why you was was in the game? Just just curious, man,
I don't. I haven't had a haircut, And twenty four
(04:02):
years before that, it was just a little just curly
hair on my head, just however it went. But once
I went to junior college, no haircut since then. So
it's been longer than that. Bro, it's ninety nine. Man.
If it ain't corn rolls, is a little faith for me?
As simple you as corn rolled up all the time?
(04:24):
Oh man, cut I cut him off on my thirtieth birthday.
May remember that, Listen. I got my hair cut on
my thirtieth birthday. I would never forget this. I walked,
I walked out of the field. We go to practice
and they and after practice, they call everybody up and
I take my helmet off and I take a kneel.
Lava was standing up. Man. He looked at me and
(04:46):
he busts out laughing in the middle of the team meeting.
I said, you'll hold you laughing. He said, maybe like
you twelve years old. You did look like you were twelve.
That's buddy, I remember that too. That was That's some
good times. Man supposed to get a Super Bowl, which
you know, it didn't get. It didn't happen. I had
my hair I started. I had just started to grow
my hair out, and then I went for a fourteen
(05:07):
year run where my dreads had had gotten all the
way down to like below my back, you know, and
then I cut it off after fourteen years. But yeah, anyways,
I digress us thought an interesting tale of of hair
because you know, we got pantin Man himself. I have
no idea why up on game and t J. Hushman's
(05:28):
Ida has not become the face or spokesperson for a
hairline product. Uh. I'm putting that out there just just
so it's it's disgusting it's talked about. Um and as
far as with Plexico Burd's I'm just I'm just mad that, uh,
you know, There hasn't been anything that's come out in
terms of how you stretch yourself out or how you
(05:48):
get a little bit taller. When you wish that you
wanted to be a baller and and you wish you
look good, you would call her, you know, and you
wish you had a rabbit in a hat with a
bat with a six four in pola. All right, hey
look here man, let mar Jackson fellas this this came
out and it's been being talked about. Uh. He's had critics.
He he hasn't been at O T s. There's been
(06:09):
conversations surrounding him not getting a deal done, even though
it sounds as though the Baltimore Ravens want to get
a deal done. It seems as though a lot of
things are being blamed. You know, a lot of people
know that he doesn't have uh an official agent. His
mother represents him. I'm not sure if she still does,
but she has represented him as his agent. And and
(06:32):
there have been some criticisms that have now uh surfaced
based upon him not being at organized training. Um, what
is that call O T as activities? Yeah, there you go.
Organized team activities, which are by the way, right now
voluntary so, uh, y'all's boy. You know, y'all know him.
(06:53):
You know he's a good, good dude. You know, it's
a lineage guy. Chris Simms had a few things that
he had to say about it. Uh, here's what he
had to say. And I've heard Lamar Jackson say he
wants to win super Bowls. He wants to win a
bunch of Super Bowls. I mean, I think there was
a time where he was like, I want to be
like Brady. He remember him saying that early in his career, Well,
Brady wouldn't be missing O t A s and year
(07:14):
four of his career. I just that's where I want
to say to some of these young quarterbacks. They always
I hear like, I want to be like Brady. Wanna
have a career like Brady, Well, then do what Brady does.
Brady didn't miss an O t A until he had
played in four Super Bowls, and you know, started to
get married and then started to miss a few O
t A s. But then things didn't go that great
in two thousand and ten and eleven and twelve, and
you know what he started to doing. I'm gonna be
(07:35):
back at O t A s. I'm gonna get a
little bit better and we need this. That's where just
from the football standpoint, I just don't get it. I
don't at all. Now this this comment did not go
unnoticed by Lamar Jackson Ryan. He had some responses on
social media. What did those consist of? Yes? So Lamar
(07:55):
retweeted the clip of that that video exactly he said,
Lamar wants to be Mark Chris. This part of otis
is voluntary, My guy, I will be there, just not
on your watch. It's probably other qbs not attending voluntary
o t s either, But since it's Lamar, it's a
huge deal. Find something else to talk about. How how
do you interpret this, fellas? Is this a good move?
(08:17):
Is it nothing to do at all? Like? What what
would your advice to Lamar um be at this moment?
Oh man? For for me? Number one, Lamar Jackson has
to understand he's Lamar Jacson when he isn't theorist news
because he's a superstar, he's a former m v P.
If he was just a regular old quarterback, not many
(08:41):
people would care. But because he is who he is,
it's news. So otiers are voluntary and we all know
that stuff is voluntary mandatory. You know. It's like even
we were there, was like you ain't gonna be at
ot as you like, nah, I ain't going your coach
call you. Everybody like, bro, why are you here? What's wrong?
(09:04):
What they got going on? It's perceived to be a
problem when you're not there, but when you are the quarterback,
it is no longer voluntary. It is in essence a
mandatory event each and every day because you are the quarterback.
Hollywood Brown is gone, and yeah, you've played with those
(09:28):
receivers and in Rashad Bateman will be your number one
going into this season. But because you're the quarterback, you
just have to be there. He knows that. And there's
been a lot of reports, Oh, the Ravens are ready
to pay him, They're ready to give him his money.
He doesn't want it. I don't believe that to be
the case. The Ravens may be ready to pay him,
(09:48):
but they must be lowbo on them, because there's just
no way you're ready to give him the contract that
he wants and he's just saying, nah, I want that, man,
go ahead and keep it, will do it next year.
They must be offering him something that he does not
want and so he says, Okay, I'll play the year
out or I'll withhold my services from O T A.
But if you're a quarterback, it's voluntary mandatory. Man. Listen,
(10:11):
Volunteer means volunteered, and it depends on who you are.
We all know that. And just like t J said, listen,
you you're the franchise quarterback of this organization. Just show up.
Just show your face, even if you're not even practicing
or having a major role going into the seat, I mean,
(10:31):
going into camp. Just show the guys that you care.
I mean, that's all they really care about. And just
like t J said, I don't know what's going on
with this whole contract situation. Uh you know, I think
that putting themselves in a bad situation, letting Lamar go
into this season and into his last year of his deal,
(10:51):
and it kind of feels like it's like a like
a Baker Mayfield situation. He's playing his last year of
his deal. He's a former m v P. So something's
not right. You don't resign. You don't resign Sammy Watkins,
you trade Hollywood Brown, Um, you have a rookie center
coming in Titling the bomb. Uh, you're under center five
(11:15):
with five percent of the snaps in the NFL game,
and he's a seventy four percent qball quarterback, So he
doesn't have any room not to show faith. Listen, if
I'm gonna starting rib Retiva, well he really doesn't have
any Well I say that those guys, those guys are
(11:36):
still NFL wire receivers, but those are not going to
be the guys that are throwing to you to in
the regular season. So for Lamar, I don't know what's
going on, but I believe the Ravens are kind of
sending him a message to say that, listen, if you
don't improve this year, then we are willing to move
on from you, even though your name is Lamar Jackson.
(11:59):
That's interesting, but that seems to have become the trend
these days not not take the fifth year option. See
what they're gonna do, and if it works out, you know,
you go from there. I mean, I think both are
great points by both of you. You know. For me,
I I honestly feel like it's a lot of of
as you guys mentioned, it's it's it's a media story,
it's something to talk about, it's the off season. There's
(12:21):
not gonna be super big stories outside of the ordinary,
normal big stories that are persisting, like you know in
which we'll get to and we'll talk about Deshaun Watson
in the next outer break. But I don't know that
this is right now today a big deal. I think
that Lamar Jackson has proven that he really really does
(12:43):
love this game and he's just all about the game
and all that other stuff will work itself out. Now. Wow,
I don't know that that is the best business approach
to it. In a way, it's kind of refreshing if
you ask me, but you know, it is what it is.
Shots out respect to Lamar Jackson, I wish him What's what?
What's refreshing? Uh? That he's just he's just being who
(13:05):
he is, you know what I mean? Like because in
in this day and age, people are forced to be something,
you know, be other things than than what they are.
They're forced to you know, can can uh? What what
is it like? Be a part of what everybody wants
you to do? You gotta do? Now? Do you think
he should be at O t as Uh? Well, if
(13:27):
it's my opinion as a coach, I would want all
my players there for certain especially my quarterback, because he's
probably the un undisputed leader of the team. So I
would want him there, and I would want him helping
set a tone for two, yeah for for two for two.
I mean, if he's not there, then I would just
(13:47):
want to feel comfortable with with what our plan is
and our strategy is moving forward because he is that good.
But to Plexico's point seventy four, uh, you know QB rating,
that's that's a that's a tap bit. You know, that's
that's not high enough. And and and we saw we
saw a guy like Josh Allen take a step from
being kind of on the fringe to being like that
(14:10):
next level guy. I just don't think that for two seconds.
Lamar Jackson isn't doing what he needs to do to
come back and be a better player than what he
has been in in years prior. And I just he
hasn't given me any reason to believe that he doesn't
love this game and love his teammates. Now, I will
say it was curious that he got upset after Hollywood
(14:31):
Brown was traded, and then it comes back that Hollywood
Brown wanted to be traded. Um, I think there may
be a little bit of confusion that exists there, but
one things for certain, Lamar Jackson loves playing the game
of football. Lamar Jackson is not a victim of a
victimhood type of person. He doesn't live in making himself
a sympathetic figure. Uh. He accepts his challenges. And from
(14:53):
what I've I've learned of who he is or how
he is through watching him play. I like. I like
his approach, I like his man metality. And I'm just
leaning in that without having all of the details of it.
Nobody's dealting his love to play. I know, I get no,
I get not at all. Yeah, we're not saying that
at all. But also, look at what they've given him
to work with. Yeah, I mean, and and that may
(15:13):
be in the back of his mind. Also, it's like,
how do y'all expect me to get better? He might
want to leave and improve. He might want to leave,
you know. And Bateman is my number one one Bateman
is his number one receiver, right Hey, anyway, we're we're
gonna get to another quarterback that is well, he's got
a whole lot of cash, a whole lot of scratch.
You got a whole lot of things going on, money man. Yeah,
(15:36):
I guess he got he got that Rolex money. And
we'll we'll discuss that on the other side of his
breaking and man coming up after a while, we'll talk
about the NFL Pro Bowl. I'll be interested to hear.
I mean, plexy, they kept snubbing you and and that
was kind of strange, but you know, tubbing, yeah, well,
robbing you, snubbing, whatever you wanna call it. You know
(15:56):
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Watson I mentioned I mentioned in the first segment, you
know there there are the stories that will will drive
on Power through the off season until football comes back.
Deshaun Watson is one of those those stories that will continue.
Now there there is a story of twofold going on.
(19:11):
Just this past week Real Sports with and moving on,
Bryan Gumble, Uh had a situation, Well, I had an
interview with one of the you know, I guess verst
is it? Is it one of one of the accusers?
Is it a couple of the accusers? I think it
was maybe at least one or a few, at least one,
(19:34):
a couple that speak out. We have sounds from one
of them, Okay, and and and he also wanted his
jersey number. And that was a story and a topic
that surface this week as well, where he gave uh,
what what what's the story? What's the story on the rolex.
Let's talk about this. So Anthony Walker, linebacker for the Browns,
(19:56):
was originally number four, which is of course the Shaun
Watson's number and the sec and that Walker heard that
Watson was coming to Cleveland, he texted him and said,
welcome to Cleveland, number four, basically saying that he was
going to give him his jersey number. And then the
other day during Walker's press conference, Watson came up gifted
him a rolex and also gave a fifty thousand dollar
(20:16):
donation to a high school that Walker's dad works in. Okay,
So let's so let's start there before we go to
real sports. Before we're moving on, let's let's start right here. Uh, fellas,
what's your takeaway on that? You know, the walking up
during the press conference, given the rolex and then announcing
a contribution to to the high school his dad works at.
(20:39):
How How y'all how are y'all viewing that? I'm gonna
tell you what I want to tell you, how I
feel about it, what I tell you to tell me?
Got his own money. He got five years to thirty
forty four million on a sign of bonus. When you
got to the like that man you can put out
(21:00):
of your teammates on the private plan. You canna take
him down to Atlantis. You can pay fifty thousand dollars
for your jersey number number four. And I guess you know,
he's just he's been Deshaun Wasson, He's he's been a
great teammate. Listen. I would never pay fifty thousand dollars
to get my number. But when I did go on
(21:20):
to the New York Giants to ask me what number
did I want, and I said, you know what, I'm
gonna go outside of the box. I want seventeen. It
was like, why do you want seventeen? I said, well,
it's gonna be one of the greatest free agency signers
in a New York Giant history. And I signed on
March seventeen. So I did get my number, but I
didn't have to pay anything for it. Jeff Figgles would
(21:41):
tell you differently. But moving on fifty thousand dollars for
a jersey, I never knew that. I never knew that
was why you took seventeen. Yep. I signed on March seventeen. Wow,
I thought I was gonna be one of the greatest
free agency acquisitions for the giants to remember our on
the phone call. It didn't work that way, you know,
(22:01):
you ap got me to come there, It didn't work
out that way for me. You know, I was starting
to do the word bawling thing and get my jumper
in line, and then I blew my achilly tended that
when when I when I was landing, and it just
didn't just didn't work out that way for me. But
but but t J, would you give up your number?
Forty all roles? Yeah, you can take my number, bro
(22:23):
straight up, just take it for fifty in a row.
He just just come take it, huh Man asked, and
its shorts. There's no question, like I don't get and
I get it. The Shaun Watson, he he should have
enough money, he's coming. You just never know what people
(22:44):
may do. So I say he should where he set forever.
But I'm not giving up fifty dollars in or in
the probably twenty five thirty thousand dollar watch for a number.
I'm just I'm not doing it. But if I I
wish still playing that somebody wanted tell you said it.
So he gifted him with a fifty thousand rolex. But
(23:05):
he also made a fifty thousand all the donation. Now
that's what I want, And I'm glad you brought that
up because I want I want you guys to tell
is this a PR stunt? Like? I hate that. I
hate that. I don't want to spend it in a
negative way because we don't want to touch about what
happened on real sports. But if it's a PR stunt,
(23:26):
I mean it could be. We we don't know. You mean,
you got to talk to the parties that are involved.
But what's your opinion on it? I know, we don't
know Mann anything that helped to Deshaun Watson at this
point be seeing in the better light he is willing
to do. Did he accomplish that? Do you feel like
he accomplished that? I mean, he wants to be seen
as a as as a character person, as a character guy.
(23:48):
He's came out of said that several times. Is that
possible at this point? It's everything is can be, you know,
I mean, it depends on where you fall in what
he's been accused of it, It depends on where you
fall in. What's your opinion. I'm glad you said I
and I'm glad you said that because here here is
(24:11):
is what took place. Burst set set the stage for us.
But you know we'll we'll get the I low. We're
coming to you soon, I promised the legendary Isaac Loewen
kron uh Birst set set the stage for the Real
Sports situation. Please sure? Yeah? Here is sounds from Ashley's
a lease one of Deshaun Watson's accusers on Real Sports
on HBO. He ends up exposing himself and I hurried
(24:35):
up and covered him with the towel and he said, oh,
you don't have to worry about the towel. I said, yes,
I do so. Then what happened. He requested that I
work on his abdomen, but the moment I went above
his navel, he told me he didn't want me to
work there. He wanted me to work lower. He just
kept directing me to go lower and don't be scared,
(24:56):
you can go in there like and I just started
really phrasing up at this point, can you explain that?
Like a wave just took over my body. I felt
so hot, I was sweating. Um. It was getting more
and more clear that this is not what I signed
(25:18):
up for. Isn't that what I thought? The session was
going to be all right. Now, there's a lot of
ways to interpret that. You can interpret it from the
literal standpoint, um, taking that face value, you can read
into it. You know, there there will be a lot
of questions, a lot of angles. Here's what Deshaun Watson's
representation had to say in response to all of this
(25:40):
that took place with real sports interviews of the accusers.
As he testified in his depositions last week. Yes, he
has no regrets because he did nothing wrong. He did
nothing wrong in these massages. And although to your first question,
how can he be innocent? I think the real question
is what evidence is there of any guilt? Two grand
(26:03):
juries and two separate jurisdictions looked at these cases and
found that there was no credible evidence that a crime
had occurred. And I'll tell you, based on our civil investigation,
our civil discovery, there's no credible evidence that Mr Watson
should be held civilly liable. I mean, I mean she
(26:25):
came kind of hard, you know, no pun intended by
the way, um, but she she was very aggressive in
her response to uh to what has taken place now
somewhat debate the idea that Deshaun Watson is not culpable
of some wrong doing here, uh, based upon the fact that,
(26:46):
just so everybody's clear, there has been the understanding that
there was consensual um considerably consensual you know. Okay, all right,
I got already been dumped. But it's kind of funny. Uh.
But but the the idea of of of him getting
(27:08):
a paying for a massage air quotes paying for the massage,
but it ended up being um consensual um relations as
you said that that, I mean, that's constitutes prostitution. I
mean that's so at the bare minimum, there has been
a rule that had a law that in that situation
(27:31):
that both of them, not just not just the Shaun Watson,
but both of them have have broke a law. If
we're going by the letter of what the law would
say in terms of you know, how that whole interaction
of paying for a service like that would go. Um
was this I mean listening to the accuser and and
(27:52):
and giving her account because you never wanna minimize or
diminish a survivor of something of this, this, this magnitude
of of this, you know this happening. Do you buy it?
Do you guys buy it? Dude? Is this is this
damning information. The lawyer makes a strong point in the
(28:13):
sense that he has not been held you know, or
nobody found and with the grand juries or whatever enough
if evidence to say that this is a prosecutable uh
offense by Deshaun Watson. But we all know that does
not mean that he did not do something wrong. He
(28:33):
may have been morally wrong. But if you're not being
charged for doing what you've been accused of, where's the problem? Well,
the problem is is that you just that they don't
feel like there's enough evidence that can prove and and
and that, and that's the thing you have to prove it.
(28:55):
If you don't have enough beyond a reasonable correct then
how are you going to charge me? How are you
gonna try to hold me responsible? When it's been investigated
and there's nothing there at least that's what's been reported
to be charged. And obviously two grand juries failed to
(29:15):
charge him. And if these women feel like they were violated,
I empathize with him. But ultimately, if he had committed
a crime, you know, good and darn well, he'd be
on trial right now. Morally you can say he's wrong,
But breaking the law and doing things I don't see
(29:37):
it because he has yet to be charged. Can I
ask you guys a question like and and I want
to be careful and how I do this? And you
have to be careful because and we've spoken on this,
especially you and Olive are we got three I got
three daughters, and so like, I try to be as
sensitive as I can in this situation, but then I
(29:58):
also have to be on us and say how I
feel because we all have been athletes, and we all
have been in situations and we all know what it
is unless that man was not allowing these these young
ladies to leave exactly all right, here's here's here's why
we asked. I just want to I just want to
know what it is, though we know what it is
like that and and that's what's hard for me. I
(30:20):
just want to ask this question. When I was listening
to the account being given and you said that you
knew that this is what you didn't sign up for,
why did you not leave, like at that point in time,
getting your payment, finishing the job, walking out of the door.
Why would you not get up out of there? Um?
Like when I say get up out of there, I
(30:42):
mean run up out of there, like run and you
don't have clothes. Also, he ain't chasing you outside, not
on not only running get up out of there, but
maybe even down nine one one, you know, called called
the authorities like she's not being against a weird And
that's what I'm saying. If that that, if that has
(31:03):
not come out performing a service. And at the end
of the day, man we were we don't well, we
will never know the truth of what happened. But what
the grand jury and what the criminal justice system is
telling us about all the allegations is that these things
didn't occur. And that is I mean, that's the whole
(31:26):
point of this whole DeShawn Watson situations. A It's a
tough situation for everybody to begin and maybe they are victims,
maybe they're not. But all we can go off of
is what we know, and that is what the grand
jury has voted on and told everybody around the world
(31:51):
that he's not guilty. So what else are we going
to say or think? I just think that the court
of public opinion in these situations. And listen, I know survivors,
right and like you mentioned, t J, you know we
also have daughters. This is a very very complex topic.
(32:11):
You can't take a side on it because I know
it from both sides. I know it from both sides.
I know it from a guy who you know that
they're wrongly accused. And how do I know? I know
because I was there. But I also know it from
the side of a survivor who really went through some really,
(32:32):
really horrible, ugly experiences connected to things such as this.
It's a very difficult topic to broach and breach, but
we you know, it'll continue to evolve, Will will continue
to talk through it. But right now we gotta jump
and get to my man, Isaac Loyd crawling for our trending.
What what do we got today? My friend? We got
(32:53):
a Game seven in the Eastern Conference Finals thanks to
Jimmy Butler of the Miami Heat, dropping forty seven on
Friday Night in Game six as his Miami Heat one
at Boston one eleven to one oh three. Butler also
with nine rebounds, eight assists in four steals. Game seven
on Sunday in Miami. Off the court, multiple outlets report
(33:13):
the Los Angeles Lakers have hired Darvin ham as their
new head coach. Hamm spent the last nine seasons as
an assistant coach with the Milwaukee Bucks to Major League
Baseball games underway right now. The Washington Nationals of five
three lead over the Colorado Rockies are just in the
top of the second inning in the first game of
a double header in the Baltimore Orioles, also in the
first game of a double header, have a one nothing
(33:35):
lead over the Red Sox in the bottom of the
second inning at Fenway. Finally, guys, do you do you
have your popcorn ready? Final item? On Friday, Cincinnati Reds
outfielder Tommy fam slapped San Francisco Giants outfielder Jack Peterson
(33:57):
in the outfield during batting practice before the game due
to a disagreement about their fantasy football league. It's funny
as hell. I mean, I gotta admit that's funny as
hal slap. So here is wi exit precisely, precisely down
(34:18):
to the fundamentals of the arc of the arm. Here
my fantasy football team out. Here's Peterson explaining the dispute
after the very good, very good Peterson. Here he is
explaining what happened after the game. And this artist this
audio courtesy of NBC Sports Bay Area. Enjoy I put
(34:39):
somebody on the Indrew reserved when they were listed as
out and added another player. And there's a text message
in the group saying that I was cheating. I don't know.
I looked up the rules and sent a screenshot out.
The rules out says that when the players ruled out,
you're allowed to put him on the I R. He
had a player, Jeff Wilson, who was out, and he
(35:01):
had him on the I R. And I said, you
literally have the same thing on your tea on your bench.
He was listens out. So it's like, it's feels very
similar to what I did. And that was basically all
of it. There's not much more to it. Priorities can't
Tommy fam Tommy family is a Deboa baseball Hey, hey,
(35:27):
early earlier in the year. I never forget this is
something happened with the Padres because Tommy family used to
play with the Padres last year. I think dude name
was Luke Void, and he was like, if Luke wants
to settle it, we can get down. I get down
really well in anything. They know they know what I'm about. Well,
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(37:35):
the O side of this. Right, We're gonna talk a
little basketball. I see, Dave, how would your boy be
dunking on casts back when he played Darvin Houn shots
out the Darvin Houm getting the Lakers job. But we're
talking NBA playoffs. Yeah, we're talking about playoffs. Now though,
that boy Jimmy Butler, he's a grown ass man. Bro.
All right, we're gonna take a break. We'll be right
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(37:57):
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Welcome back into the show, Welcome back into Up on Game,
Got My Boys with me Man Plex t J, I'm LaVar.
If you missed anything in the first hour, make sure
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I'll make sure you stay locked in, tuned in. Uh
last night. You know, all week, everybody's been making the
whole joke about it's over, Boston is gonna go play, Uh,
you know, play the Warrior is in the in the
(39:00):
championship round. Um, Jimmy Butler, p J. Tucker and all
those guys, they they found themselves uh limping into this
this game six and limped on on top of the
the Boston Celtics for w forcing a game seven. Draymond
Green had obviously came out and had the quote basically
(39:23):
that you know, it was a foregone conclusion they'd be
playing Boston. No one gave the Heat a chance. They
pulled it out. Uh what's y'alls takeaway from the game?
What are y'all thinking? Can they actually put the magic
together to to do it again one more time? In
in Miami for for the series finale, Man Jimmy Butler
(39:45):
refused to let his team lose. I mean it was
as simple as that he was the best player on
the court yesterday he refused to let the Miami Heat lose.
He's gonna eat another performance like that? Can you do it?
And you looked at with game six. I believe in
games three and four, Jimmy Butler did not play well. Um,
I believe Boston has a better team. But when you're
(40:07):
playing a Game seven at home, you never know what
can happen. But if Jimmy Butler, obviously, if he plays
the way he played yesterday, he's gonna in. But I
believe Boston has a better team. Man. I don't think
anybody in this series has won back to back games. Yeah,
nobody has won back to back games. But if I
(40:27):
got to go to anybody in this series, man, because
I couldn't pick this series after Game one, it's like
every game was being won by twenty or thirty points.
But if I'm gonna go with somebody, I gotta go
with defense, and that's gonna be the Miami Heat, you know.
I don't I don't know the availability of Toller Hero,
if he's gonna be able to play or not. But
I just think it's a lot of pressure on Jason
(40:48):
Tatum and Jalen Brown are going there and to be
spectacular in a Game seven. Um, It's like t J said, Man,
Boston has a better team. But just going down to
Miami and playing and playing and playing it. One of
that kind of pression in front of that crowd, understanding
what's on the line. And Jimmy Butler was playing way
(41:11):
two passes and games in the last two games. But
when he asserts himself man that he wants to be
really aggressive and scored the basketball. He's one of the
he's one of the elite players in the league. Man.
So Game seven, ah, I gotta go with Miami. You know,
I'm going with the defense, and I just think they're
(41:35):
going to get it done. I didn't foresee it, you know.
Uh going into the Boston is the Houston Rockets defense.
I feel bad wanting Boston the way because I think
it's gonna be a better game, a better series. I
don't know that to have that much lefe that. I
don't know that Miami will have that much left going
(41:56):
into the finale of a point man stir Errington, Boy,
you know what, we all have great points in our too.
We're gonna make some points about well, I'm gonna teaser
after we come back from the break, So make sure
you stay tuned. This is up on game that's t
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