September 6, 2025 • 42 mins
TJ & Plax talk about the report that the Clippers and Kawhi Leonard circumvented the NFL Salary Cap, Bill Belichick banning Patriots scouts from the UNC program, the possibility of the transfer window being reduced to one opening, and more!
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Welcome back in Up on Game. I'm TJ Busch Masada
alongside Flexico Burds in the second hour, specifically this first topic,
I I really want to discuss this and see where
this goes. We gonna get right into it. Kawhi Leonard
Los Angeles Clippers supposedly reportedly any other adjectives. They tried
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to circumvent the salary cap. They tried to go around
and act like he was given the Clippers a team
friendly dealer. He took somewhat of a discount, and allegedly
they gave him an extra twenty eight million in some
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other investment fund that he actually put up zero dollars.
And I don't know if you saw the interview with
Steve Balmer and he was like, I was duped. Maybe
it's just me. It's hard for somebody that's worth billions,
one of the richest men in the world, to get
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duped in an investment where your best player invests nothing
but gets twenty eight million. You got duped. I don't
one your thoughts to do you believe it should be
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a punishment in what type of punishment? When he was
a free agent leaving Toronto, it was Kawhi Leonard wants
a house. He wants access to a private jet at
all times, which was illegal. The Lakers supposedly was like,
you know what, we're out, I want X amount guaranteed
and endorsement or the Toronto Raptors. We're trying to find
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companies and businesses in the area that would guarantee Kawhi
Leonard x amount of money and endorsements. And so the
NBA knew about this, but it seems as if now
they must do something. Will they and what should the
punishment be. Man.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
To be honest with you, it's so much going on
with this Steve Bauman Kawhi Leonard deal, that something news
coming out every day. I guess just you know, the
guy he pleaded guilty wild fraud or whatever the case
may be. The company doesn't exist, no more bankruptcy and
all these things, and there's no public information of Kawhi
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Leonard indorsing and endorsing this industry or whatever the case
may be. But he still was able to make twenty
eight million dollars for something that he never invested in.
I just don't know how to untangle it. I believe
at the end of the day there is going to
be some reper questions and some consequences moving forward for
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the Clippers and Kawhi Leonard because they will get down
to the bottom of it.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Being at this thing is it's.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Not a state that's been coming up, a federal thing,
so they will get down to the bottom of it.
I can't speculate to what h what actually happened, but
I know this, when there's smoke that's fire and people
are pleading guilty to certain things, then I think everybody's
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going to be investigated, and I think that you know,
the NBA is going to wait to see what happens
with this whole thing.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I think there's some informationation is going to come out
that's going to affect Kawhile Leonard and the Clippers and
the NBA moving forward. But the NBA kind of knew about.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
This thing, and it's all just blowing up now that
this was a way to keep the Clippers under the
salary cap. And I'm hearing that people are saying, this
is not the first time that something like this has
happened in the NBA, Like these things are going on. Yeah,
I think the NBA and now it's going to be
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a deeper investigation of other players around the league. And man,
this thing could get real ugly if they say if
if it is what they say it is, because if
it is, the dominoes are getting ready to fall, and
it's going to be like a league wide investigation on
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contracts with players who are turning down enormous amounts of
money and giving discounts and friendly.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Deals and all. Like I say, man, where there's.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Smoke, death fire, I hope that you know that Kwalin
is not involved or part of it, this thing moving forward,
but I guess we're just gonna have to sit back
and see what they come up with.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Man, this is interesting because when you really look into it.
And twenty twenty one, the Clippers announced a three hundred
million dollar partnership with Aspiration. So it included spot ships
and the team arena, a patch on the jerseys, and
they supposedly wanted the into It Dome to be called
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the Aspiration Dome, but they had already made the agreement
with into It and so that wasn't happening. But the
co founder of Aspiration God by the name of Joe Sandberg,
he pleaded guilty to two counts of wire fraud. He
defrauded investors almost two hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And well, if he had defrauded investors, I think that's
you know, when he says he got duped, I guess
there is some belief behind it. If he invested in
the company, and you know, if he defrauded the investors
out of two hundred and fifty million dollars, maybe Steve
Bauma telling him the truth.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But where does Kawhi Leonard's twenty eight million dollar investment
come from? That's the thing where does it come from.
Kawhi didn't put any million, any millions up, He didn't
put any money up. So if he didn't put any
money up, how does he have a twenty eight million
dollar investment in and he put up no money? So
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did somebody put the money up for him? So that's where, Yeah,
you may have been duped, mister Balmer, you may have
been conned, not that I'm thinking about it, that may
have happened. But if Kawhi put up no money, who
put it up for him? Who put the money up
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for him? So did you put it up for Kawhi
thinking the company would take off and it didn't? So, yes,
you were duped. But who put up Kawhi Leonard's money?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That is going to be the big question that is
going to have to be answered, and somebody's going to
have to come up with it.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
As and if it's found that the Clippers and Bamber
did indeed try to circumvent the cap, what's the punishment
they call him for a lifetime man for who both? So, okay,
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the Clippers get in trouble, Okay, do you void Kawhi
Leonard's contract?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I'm not sure that the NBA can do that. But
if this was going on, the people in the front
office knew, they knew that this was going on, so
everybody should suffer some consequences. But they if this, if
that is exactly what happened, then they're calling from a
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band for Obama and Kawhi Leonard, which would be very sad.
But we have to we have to wait and see
what information it's true in false.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't think I truly, truly don't believe Steve Balmer
will get banned I don't believe that will happen at all.
I believe he will be fined and he needs to
be fined.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
No, this has the amount. This is very serious. This
is very serious because it's basically it's cheating.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yes, it is cheating, but they're not They're not going
to force him to sell the Clippers. What they're gonna do.
This is a why I think that huge amount. This
is an n b A. He is.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Paying Kawhi Leonard under the table. That's what that's what
What's what it gets them because he can get yeah,
he can get other players on the team to win
basketball games and pay Kawhi Leonard under the table and
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under the salary cap.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That is serious business. Yeah, I don't believe they're gonna
force him to sell, but he gonna be hit with
a heavy fine. Man, What do you think the.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Other owners are gonna if the other owners, if they
give the other owners a vote to where.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
He can't keep, they're gonna they're gonna stick together because
I guarantee if Steve Farmer his than is doing this,
others are. And I'll just give you another one. Think
about this. You remember when you remember, and obviously I'm
just you know, just looking at stuff. When Jalen Brunson
signed this deal, what everybody say, you recall, I'll tell
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you what everybody said, why do you sign that? Why
do he sign that? When Jalen Brunton signed his deal,
everybody said, why did he sign that? He left over
one hundred million dollars on the table. And I don't
know the exact number. I don't know the exact time.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
A million dollars. How much one hundred and thirteen million
dollars he left on the table.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So when you see that, that don't raise a red
flag to you. What human being on earth will leave
one hundred open? Well, human being on earth only maybe
I was on table maybe thirteen by one hundred. Yeah,
you don't leave a hundred and thirteen million and so
on it. Now, that's if the owners say we want
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Steve Balmer removed. Now you open up Pandora's box, because
now we're gonna theyre gonna start looking at all these
contracts as make your saying it's been going on, but
Jalen Brynce's is the first one. Ain't been no investigation.
Now you start investigating it, now you might uncover some things.
So I don't believe the owners want Steve Bamer banned.
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They want him fined and punished. The biggest thing is
Kawhi Leonard. If his contract is deemed null and void
and they tear that up, does he start talking because
now he loses out on one hundred and fifty million.
I'm not losing out on one hundred.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Fifty You understand that paying somebody under the table is fraud,
is illegal, it's a course of course, it's a crime becauz.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
But if they void Kawhi Leonard's contract, that is a
hundred and fifty million dollars contract gone, So he don't
receive that. He no long That's what I'm saying. You
think he wants that. So now does he get the talking.
Does he talk about he was doing it? He got
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caught and if he knew what he was doing? Does
he say about now does he in turn say Bomber
knew what he was doing?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Absolutely, they both got caught. This good both been caught.
This nothing else for them to say.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Anybody, everybody else may have been doing it.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
It may have happened once or twice in the league,
but you know what, but they got caught. There's nothing
else for quality for him to come forward and say.
All he's gonna do is is further damage himself.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
He's gonna need a lawyer. You he was getting paid
under the table. This is gonna get real. This will
be very interesting to see how Adam Silver navigates this,
because that's what it's gonna come down. And this guy
an already plead the guilty the wild fraud. Adam Silver,
how how will ugly respond and handle this situation because
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there's gonna be so much pressure on him to handle
this the correct way, not not just from the owner.
You got to get cuffs on her to talk about
this and this from the media. Yes, hey, we will
labor further elaborate on the seriousness of what has just
taken place. This ain't just no slap on the wrist
like a state thing. This thing is getting ugly, real, bro,
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real that real is gonna be And there's not too
many people talking about it because they kind of it
seems like they want to sweep it under the rug.
But no, this ain't going nowhere. Steve Bomber is gonna
get a hefty fine. But Steve Balmer is so rich
that half defined is nothing. He just e jo I
invested fifty million and I got duped. He invested fifty million.
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He he acting like fifty million is one thousand dollars, Like, oh, well,
I lost fifty million in man. That that there. But
Kawhi Leonard stands to lose one hundred and fifty million
dollars if his contract is voided, and that that that's
a ripple effect on what he gonna say, was his
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uncle involved in this? Are you gonna start investigating everybody's
contract that it may have taken less? This thing, specifically
that one hundred million that that fella in New York
took less? That blew everybody's mind, like why would he
do this when all he had to do was wait
and he would have received this contract. So I don't know,
(15:14):
but time will tell. We will continue to talk about
this story as long as we get updates and or
are they gonna sweep it under the rug and we
won't hear anything publicly about it and we would just
subconsciously forget about it. We don't know. Put his game on.
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Heyo tj yo. I just want to say something right quick.
I just want to reiterate right now that the number
two team in the nation, that Penn State and in.
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The Lions are in a dog fight with FIU. Right now.
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What's the score, Well, they just kicked the field goal.
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Penn State.
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They're really good on defense, really good on defense. They
that's just what they do to me. Their offense is
not good enough, has not been good enough, will not
be good enough to be what. I just want to
put that out there. I'm just saying, and I wish
LeVar was here. Like last year, they couldn't move the ball.
I mean it was Tyler Warren or bust. Yeah, I
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don't believe Penn State. Penn State. They'll finish, then they'll
make the college Football Playoff and then I'll run into
somebody that's going to force them to just be one
dimensional and then they'll knock the Nickney Lions out. We're
not hating on the Niitney Lions. We're just State. We're not.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
We're not We're not. We can play it back fu
LeVar next week when it gets back. But I did, Yeah,
that's what we'll do. But yeah, they are struggling. Yeah,
that's that is a struggle for sure. That is a
struggle for sure. Now this may be a struggle for
the players. I don't know if I like it. You
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have a son that plays college football.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Danca has voted to have a single football transfer window. Now,
just because they voted doesn't mean it's going to go
into effect or it's a rule. But that's what they
are trying to do, and I do understand some of it.
December transfer portal, when it's season is technically still going
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to College Football Playoff. You got guys transferring when technically
the season is still going on. I don't like that.
You can't just leave in the school that you're at
it's still playing games, but to have to what they're
trying to do is they're trying to have the transfer
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the transfer window and opens up January tewod but the
teams in the College Football Playoff they're still playing. So
I don't understand that part of it, but it is
another window open. It is December. It is now the
spring game. It's December, and then it's in the spring.
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That's how it is now. So it's December ninth, after
the twenty eighth, and then it's April sixteenth through the
twenty fifth. That's when Nitho transferred from Tennessee to UCLA.
I do recall that us.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Because because because what is starting to happening now a
few of these programs are not having spring games because
they don't want their players to go out there and
look great on film or in the spring game and
another school comes in and offers them a whole bunch
of money and then they leave to go to that
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school after they perform in the spring game.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
See, this was a big part of it. Play This
was a really big part of it. So last season,
Penn State and that SMU, they lost their backup quarterbacks
to the portal while they were still in the College
Football Playoff. But the biggest thing was Marshall opted out
of a bowl game because we don't have enough players. Like, really,
your whole damn team transferred out. But they didn't have
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enough players to plan a ball game. But you know
why they didn't have enough players? You know why? Well,
supposedly because a coach took another job. So my thing
is this what happened? What happened to me? Hold up,
hold up lex. If a coach can take another job
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whenever the hell he wants, then why can't a player
transfer whenever the hell he wants? Like, if it's good
for him, it's good for me. And so the players
that Marshall entered the portal because the coach took another job.
If a coach can take a job in December, then
the players should be able to transfer in December. Very simple,
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like they these archaic rules of it's gonna the players
can't get played, but the coach is gonna make generational
wealth on the back of the players. They finally did
away with that. Now the players can get paid. And
you got these dumb ass coaches talking about, Oh man,
the players are making so much money. So were you
on the backs of the players go to one of
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these weak schools and make a hundred million and win games?
Oh you can't, you can't. And so I get. I
am for some type of reform to this, but don't
try to keep handicapping the players. You've done this long enough.
You did this to us, You did it to us.
But now that it's on the even playing ground, if
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a coach can take a job, a player should be
able to transfer. I do believe it should just be
one window. But if a coach is gonna leave, a
player gotta look after himself because we a lot of
times we don't go to the school for the school.
We go to the school for the coaches. We go
to the school because of the relationship we build with
a coach, and if he leaves and I need to
be able to leave, I don't care what the portal
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and the transfer window says. What say you.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Man, this and none that I've listened to, you know,
everything that you just said and everything that's going on
with the n c A, n I L and giving
them one window on one window to transfer or in
I L or whatever. This happened to me years ago.
This happened to me back in nineteen ninety nine and
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a great coach, boy the name of Nick Saban left
us while the season was still going on. And as
a kid, you really understand he's like, man, like we
still we had a bowl game to go to and
it was just up in the middle of the night
and he was gone. So it's been going on for
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quite some time. But I think there's just been so
much turnover with this transfer portal, and the parody in
college football right now is at all time high. And
Alabama's no longer Alabama. The Clipsons of the world. In
these top tier, top five programs, Oklahomas and the Texas
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and all of those, I mean, they're good now, but
the consistency of what these program MS brought to college
football and how great they were those times, those days
no longer exists because you know, you have you know,
the SMUs and you have you know, Florida State coming
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back into dominance. You have you know, uh, you have,
you have great skill these smaller schools now playing on
a national scale, which you didn't have, you know, fifteen
twenty years ago. And I think that that's what they
really want to get back to. They want to get
back to the Miamis and the Texas and the Oklahomas
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and the us Seas and the UCLA's and the Tennessee's.
They want to get back to those those big programs
and giving these giving the guys one one chance or
one opportunity to to make a decision. Because if I'm
a player and you know, we don't we don't have
the season that I think we're going to have, and
my coach Leeds and you can you can make a
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decision in January to leave the coach Leeves like that,
that gives me, you know, a lot of leverage and
an opportunity to make our decisions.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
You know, well, you know what, I'm not going to stay.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I'm not going to transfer right now, because I know
I have a window in April, and I think that's
what the NBC Double A is is trying to limit.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Have a full have a roster.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
That the n C double as that they know where
the players are going to be going into the spring.
And I think that's what they're trying to do, because
these rosters are flip flopping like crazy. And I'm gonna
just be honest with you. I don't even know half
the guys on my team and skaped, I just root
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for my school.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah to me, doorway with the December window. I don't
believe kids should be transferring when your team is playing
Doorway with the December window. If your team is in
a college football playoff, you can't transfer, but open the
window January to whatever date. You should still have two
windows January to whatever date, and then again in the spring.
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Because you may be thinking about transferring, you talk to
your coaches, they tell you it's going to be X,
Y and Z, and then you get to spring ball
you realize it's not X Y and Z. Oh I'm transferring.
You lie to me, but they'll lie to you because
then they know you locked in for a year. And
so that to me would be the next best thing.
But these coaches in these administration, man, y'all been taking
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advantage of US players for decades. Decades. You coaches have
made millions upon millions upon millions of dollars on the
back of us for decades. Stop crying and complaining and
do what's best for the kids. Always trying to do
what's best for you, and then tell you we student athletes. No, no, no, no, no,
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the majority is are athletes students. Let's just call it
what it is.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Every coach, you know, it comes to saying, now, well,
the kids are trying to do the best thing for me,
so I gotta do the best thing for myself.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Exactly playing now, exactly. Sorry, it used to be the
other way around, used to and we need to keep
it how it is because it's fair for all parties.
It's fair for all parties. Alo, man, What you got
for us? Man with the updates? Man, we went a
little long. We sorry about that.
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That's what we got next week Texas and him in
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Speaker 2 (31:07):
Good for y'all. They got all this talent. They have
all this talent every year and it's like, Uh, what
are they doing with all the talent? Absolutely nothing? But
what what is this? We we gotta be quick on
this and we're gonna touch on this is we have
about what's up with Bill Belichick? Bro? Like North Carolina
(31:30):
your squirrel opening touchdown on your first drive to start
the season, and then it was just nothing the rest
of the way to the end of the game. But
why are you banning Patriots scouting staff members from your
program from coming to watch practice? Why are you doing this? Like,
Bill Bell, do you realize how this makes you look? Like?
(31:51):
What is wrong with this dude? Man?
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I have no idea. Man, he's in a position of power.
He's always been in the position power. But college is
more than pro We know that. And I don't know
what the what he's hiding or what he doesn't want
the Patriots regime to see, But there's definitely something behind
(32:20):
him not allowing the Patriots the Scouts players. It doesn't
even make sense. So it just tells me that there's
something going on in New England. Nah, you know what
it is plex to me.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You know what it tells me he's still bitter about
the way his exit went from the Patriots, because you're
not banning nobody else. You're not banning other teams. You
just banning the Patriots. It's you're not banning the Jets,
you banning the Cowboys, Scouts, You not banning the Chief Scouts.
It's just the Patriots. So you're bitter about how things
(32:55):
went with Robert Kraft when he decided to let you go?
H can he really? Can he do that? Though he
munch can't. He's doing it. He's doing it.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I just think that some of the things that he
was doing in New England he doesn't want them to
see or experience. There's something going on other than him
being fired the way that he was. I really believe
that there's two separate things going on internally when he
was in New England and now that he's in North Carolina.
(33:30):
Is bigger than him being fired from the organization.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I just that's just something. I believe. It's some personal
we don't know, but he better win some games. If
you're gonna act the way he acted in New England,
he was able to be rude to people and treat people,
at least it seems from the outside looking in the media,
a certain type of way, players, a certain type of way.
He was able to do that because he was winning.
He was able to do it because he was winning.
(33:55):
He won so many Super Bowls. He had Tom Brady.
But without mister Brady, Bill Belichick has shown to be
a below not an average, a below average coach. I
think Sante Say said it best, So he better start winning,
(34:15):
because to me, the longer he coaches, the more you
start to question, damn, it really was all Brady, it
really was. The longer he coaches, the more he exposes himself,
at least in my eyes. And I know the people
that play for him, they love him. He's a great
coach and he probably is a really great teacher. But
(34:38):
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Speaker 1 (38:21):
Time for some picks.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Are you up on game, Let's crack this up. Let's
break it up.
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Down on Game.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
Yes, that's right up on game down game. Last week's results,
LeVar three and three, TJ, you went three and three plaques,
you went one in five go.
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You gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
So there's there is room for improvement. And it was
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Speaker 2 (38:50):
You know what, plex is out here like Bill Belichick
without breaking.
Speaker 7 (38:55):
We are going to start this week, uh, Camboard making
his debut in the NFL on the road against the
Denver Broncos. Denver an eight and a half point favorite here.
The total has currently said that forty two and a
half and TJ, we're gonna start with you here.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Too, total forty two. Man. I just remember being in
meeting rooms and a head coach will get up and say,
we only get to face a RICKI one time and
as his first start ever in the National Football League,
and we gonna make it hell for him. That's what
I believe the Denver Broncos will do for cam Ward.
They gonna make it tough. It's gonna be an uphill battle.
(39:30):
I'm gonna take the Denver Broncos. I'm gonna give up
the eight points.
Speaker 7 (39:33):
What was the over under forty two and a half.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
And I'll say it will go over. I like it
to be about a thirty eight to fifteen type score.
I take the Denver Broncos, oh Man, going to Mount
Hi Stadium.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I am a lifetime oh and two, So I'm gonna
go under the forty two points. Just like TJ said,
I believe Denver Broncos are gonna get after cam Mood
in this first start. Historically the Tennessee does not put
up a lot of points, So I'm going under the
forty two and I'm gonna take the oval on for
(40:10):
the Broncos at eight and a half.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
So I'm gonna take the oval on the eight.
Speaker 7 (40:12):
And a half, all right? Next up Sunday Night, the
Baltimore Ravens head to Buffalo Baltimore one and a half
point road favorite in this one. The total is currently
fifty and a half. Complax will start.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
With you man, I'm going under the fifteen and a half.
It's gonna be a battle. Lamar Jackson is the real
MVP with a real MVP stand up. Josh Allen was
not the real MVP. We know how that story goes.
So I'm taking the Baltimore Ravens plus one and a half.
I believe that the Baltimore Ravens will redeem themselves. It's
(40:45):
gonna be a defensive game. So I'm going under the
fifty and I'm taking Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
It's gonna be interesting. Josh Allen was a right for MVP,
but I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the Baltimore Ravens.
They're really good in the regular season. They blew the
Bills out last year in the regular season. But I
believe points will come, and points will come fast and curious.
So I will take the over with the points. But
I like the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 7 (41:09):
Also, all right. And to round it out, Monday nights,
the Minnesota Vikings head to Chicago to take on Ben
Johnson and Caleb Williams. The Vikings they wanted to have
a point road favorite here. The total is currently at
forty three.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
And a half. Man, I'm gonna go under on the points.
Don't ask me why. That really makes no sense, but
I'm gonna do it. But I actually like the Chicago Bears. Sure,
I don't know what we're gonna get out of JJ
McCarthy this first start in the National Football League. But
I don't know what I'm gonna get out of Ben
Johnson and Kayler Williams. Johnson, but it's something that tells
(41:45):
me they gonna figure this out. I like the Chicago Bears,
and I'm going you.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Know what, I'm not a firm believing Kayler Williams as
of yet Ben Johnson and his first head coaching job
against his former divisional opponent. I'm gonna take the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I really do. Chicago Bears. No Keenan Allen, no safety blanket.
So I'm going to go over on the point stire
will be no defense being played, and I'm taking the
Minnesota Vikings to start off on one under the news
starting quarterback JJ McCarthy. All right, to see if Brian
(42:29):
Flores can confuse him. Can Brian Flores confused? Kayler Williams,
he will that that will be to me the kid
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Speaker 2 (00:47):
Welcome back in Up on Game. I'm TJ Busch Masada
alongside Flexico Burds in the second hour, specifically this first topic,
I I really want to discuss this and see where
this goes. We gonna get right into it. Kawhi Leonard
Los Angeles Clippers supposedly reportedly any other adjectives. They tried
(01:17):
to circumvent the salary cap. They tried to go around
and act like he was given the Clippers a team
friendly dealer. He took somewhat of a discount, and allegedly
they gave him an extra twenty eight million in some
(01:37):
other investment fund that he actually put up zero dollars.
And I don't know if you saw the interview with
Steve Balmer and he was like, I was duped. Maybe
it's just me. It's hard for somebody that's worth billions,
one of the richest men in the world, to get
(02:00):
duped in an investment where your best player invests nothing
but gets twenty eight million. You got duped. I don't
one your thoughts to do you believe it should be
(02:21):
a punishment in what type of punishment? When he was
a free agent leaving Toronto, it was Kawhi Leonard wants
a house. He wants access to a private jet at
all times, which was illegal. The Lakers supposedly was like,
you know what, we're out, I want X amount guaranteed
and endorsement or the Toronto Raptors. We're trying to find
(02:43):
companies and businesses in the area that would guarantee Kawhi
Leonard x amount of money and endorsements. And so the
NBA knew about this, but it seems as if now
they must do something. Will they and what should the
punishment be. Man.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
To be honest with you, it's so much going on
with this Steve Bauman Kawhi Leonard deal, that something news
coming out every day. I guess just you know, the
guy he pleaded guilty wild fraud or whatever the case
may be. The company doesn't exist, no more bankruptcy and
all these things, and there's no public information of Kawhi
(03:29):
Leonard indorsing and endorsing this industry or whatever the case
may be. But he still was able to make twenty
eight million dollars for something that he never invested in.
I just don't know how to untangle it. I believe
at the end of the day there is going to
be some reper questions and some consequences moving forward for
(03:51):
the Clippers and Kawhi Leonard because they will get down
to the bottom of it.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Being at this thing is it's.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Not a state that's been coming up, a federal thing,
so they will get down to the bottom of it.
I can't speculate to what h what actually happened, but
I know this, when there's smoke that's fire and people
are pleading guilty to certain things, then I think everybody's
(04:19):
going to be investigated, and I think that you know,
the NBA is going to wait to see what happens
with this whole thing.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I think there's some informationation is going to come out
that's going to affect Kawhile Leonard and the Clippers and
the NBA moving forward. But the NBA kind of knew about.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
This thing, and it's all just blowing up now that
this was a way to keep the Clippers under the
salary cap. And I'm hearing that people are saying, this
is not the first time that something like this has
happened in the NBA, Like these things are going on. Yeah,
I think the NBA and now it's going to be
(05:00):
a deeper investigation of other players around the league. And man,
this thing could get real ugly if they say if
if it is what they say it is, because if
it is, the dominoes are getting ready to fall, and
it's going to be like a league wide investigation on
(05:24):
contracts with players who are turning down enormous amounts of
money and giving discounts and friendly.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Deals and all. Like I say, man, where there's.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Smoke, death fire, I hope that you know that Kwalin
is not involved or part of it, this thing moving forward,
but I guess we're just gonna have to sit back
and see what they come up with.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Man, this is interesting because when you really look into it.
And twenty twenty one, the Clippers announced a three hundred
million dollar partnership with Aspiration. So it included spot ships
and the team arena, a patch on the jerseys, and
they supposedly wanted the into It Dome to be called
(06:12):
the Aspiration Dome, but they had already made the agreement
with into It and so that wasn't happening. But the
co founder of Aspiration God by the name of Joe Sandberg,
he pleaded guilty to two counts of wire fraud. He
defrauded investors almost two hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And well, if he had defrauded investors, I think that's
you know, when he says he got duped, I guess
there is some belief behind it. If he invested in
the company, and you know, if he defrauded the investors
out of two hundred and fifty million dollars, maybe Steve
Bauma telling him the truth.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But where does Kawhi Leonard's twenty eight million dollar investment
come from? That's the thing where does it come from.
Kawhi didn't put any million, any millions up, He didn't
put any money up. So if he didn't put any
money up, how does he have a twenty eight million
dollar investment in and he put up no money? So
(07:14):
did somebody put the money up for him? So that's where, Yeah,
you may have been duped, mister Balmer, you may have
been conned, not that I'm thinking about it, that may
have happened. But if Kawhi put up no money, who
put it up for him? Who put the money up
(07:35):
for him? So did you put it up for Kawhi
thinking the company would take off and it didn't? So, yes,
you were duped. But who put up Kawhi Leonard's money?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That is going to be the big question that is
going to have to be answered, and somebody's going to
have to come up with it.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
As and if it's found that the Clippers and Bamber
did indeed try to circumvent the cap, what's the punishment
they call him for a lifetime man for who both? So, okay,
(08:22):
the Clippers get in trouble, Okay, do you void Kawhi
Leonard's contract?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I'm not sure that the NBA can do that. But
if this was going on, the people in the front
office knew, they knew that this was going on, so
everybody should suffer some consequences. But they if this, if
that is exactly what happened, then they're calling from a
(08:50):
band for Obama and Kawhi Leonard, which would be very sad.
But we have to we have to wait and see
what information it's true in false.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't think I truly, truly don't believe Steve Balmer
will get banned I don't believe that will happen at all.
I believe he will be fined and he needs to
be fined.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
No, this has the amount. This is very serious. This
is very serious because it's basically it's cheating.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yes, it is cheating, but they're not They're not going
to force him to sell the Clippers. What they're gonna do.
This is a why I think that huge amount. This
is an n b A. He is.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Paying Kawhi Leonard under the table. That's what that's what
What's what it gets them because he can get yeah,
he can get other players on the team to win
basketball games and pay Kawhi Leonard under the table and
(10:00):
under the salary cap.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That is serious business. Yeah, I don't believe they're gonna
force him to sell, but he gonna be hit with
a heavy fine. Man, What do you think the.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Other owners are gonna if the other owners, if they
give the other owners a vote to where.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
He can't keep, they're gonna they're gonna stick together because
I guarantee if Steve Farmer his than is doing this,
others are. And I'll just give you another one. Think
about this. You remember when you remember, and obviously I'm
just you know, just looking at stuff. When Jalen Brunson
signed this deal, what everybody say, you recall, I'll tell
(10:42):
you what everybody said, why do you sign that? Why
do he sign that? When Jalen Brunton signed his deal,
everybody said, why did he sign that? He left over
one hundred million dollars on the table. And I don't
know the exact number. I don't know the exact time.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
A million dollars. How much one hundred and thirteen million
dollars he left on the table.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So when you see that, that don't raise a red
flag to you. What human being on earth will leave
one hundred open? Well, human being on earth only maybe
I was on table maybe thirteen by one hundred. Yeah,
you don't leave a hundred and thirteen million and so
on it. Now, that's if the owners say we want
(11:29):
Steve Balmer removed. Now you open up Pandora's box, because
now we're gonna theyre gonna start looking at all these
contracts as make your saying it's been going on, but
Jalen Brynce's is the first one. Ain't been no investigation.
Now you start investigating it, now you might uncover some things.
So I don't believe the owners want Steve Bamer banned.
(11:52):
They want him fined and punished. The biggest thing is
Kawhi Leonard. If his contract is deemed null and void
and they tear that up, does he start talking because
now he loses out on one hundred and fifty million.
I'm not losing out on one hundred.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Fifty You understand that paying somebody under the table is fraud,
is illegal, it's a course of course, it's a crime becauz.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
But if they void Kawhi Leonard's contract, that is a
hundred and fifty million dollars contract gone, So he don't
receive that. He no long That's what I'm saying. You
think he wants that. So now does he get the talking.
Does he talk about he was doing it? He got
(12:46):
caught and if he knew what he was doing? Does
he say about now does he in turn say Bomber
knew what he was doing?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Absolutely, they both got caught. This good both been caught.
This nothing else for them to say.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Anybody, everybody else may have been doing it.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
It may have happened once or twice in the league,
but you know what, but they got caught. There's nothing
else for quality for him to come forward and say.
All he's gonna do is is further damage himself.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
He's gonna need a lawyer. You he was getting paid
under the table. This is gonna get real. This will
be very interesting to see how Adam Silver navigates this,
because that's what it's gonna come down. And this guy
an already plead the guilty the wild fraud. Adam Silver,
how how will ugly respond and handle this situation because
(13:42):
there's gonna be so much pressure on him to handle
this the correct way, not not just from the owner.
You got to get cuffs on her to talk about
this and this from the media. Yes, hey, we will
labor further elaborate on the seriousness of what has just
taken place. This ain't just no slap on the wrist
like a state thing. This thing is getting ugly, real, bro,
(14:09):
real that real is gonna be And there's not too
many people talking about it because they kind of it
seems like they want to sweep it under the rug.
But no, this ain't going nowhere. Steve Bomber is gonna
get a hefty fine. But Steve Balmer is so rich
that half defined is nothing. He just e jo I
invested fifty million and I got duped. He invested fifty million.
(14:29):
He he acting like fifty million is one thousand dollars, Like, oh, well,
I lost fifty million in man. That that there. But
Kawhi Leonard stands to lose one hundred and fifty million
dollars if his contract is voided, and that that that's
a ripple effect on what he gonna say, was his
(14:52):
uncle involved in this? Are you gonna start investigating everybody's
contract that it may have taken less? This thing, specifically
that one hundred million that that fella in New York
took less? That blew everybody's mind, like why would he
do this when all he had to do was wait
and he would have received this contract. So I don't know,
(15:14):
but time will tell. We will continue to talk about
this story as long as we get updates and or
are they gonna sweep it under the rug and we
won't hear anything publicly about it and we would just
subconsciously forget about it. We don't know. Put his game on.
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I just want to reiterate right now that the number
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be good enough to be what. I just want to
put that out there. I'm just saying, and I wish
LeVar was here. Like last year, they couldn't move the ball.
I mean it was Tyler Warren or bust. Yeah, I
(19:01):
don't believe Penn State. Penn State. They'll finish, then they'll
make the college Football Playoff and then I'll run into
somebody that's going to force them to just be one
dimensional and then they'll knock the Nickney Lions out. We're
not hating on the Niitney Lions. We're just State. We're not.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
We're not We're not. We can play it back fu
LeVar next week when it gets back. But I did, Yeah,
that's what we'll do. But yeah, they are struggling. Yeah,
that's that is a struggle for sure. That is a
struggle for sure. Now this may be a struggle for
the players. I don't know if I like it. You
(19:34):
have a son that plays college football.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Danca has voted to have a single football transfer window. Now,
just because they voted doesn't mean it's going to go
into effect or it's a rule. But that's what they
are trying to do, and I do understand some of it.
December transfer portal, when it's season is technically still going
(20:01):
to College Football Playoff. You got guys transferring when technically
the season is still going on. I don't like that.
You can't just leave in the school that you're at
it's still playing games, but to have to what they're
trying to do is they're trying to have the transfer
(20:23):
the transfer window and opens up January tewod but the
teams in the College Football Playoff they're still playing. So
I don't understand that part of it, but it is
another window open. It is December. It is now the
spring game. It's December, and then it's in the spring.
(20:46):
That's how it is now. So it's December ninth, after
the twenty eighth, and then it's April sixteenth through the
twenty fifth. That's when Nitho transferred from Tennessee to UCLA.
I do recall that us.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Because because because what is starting to happening now a
few of these programs are not having spring games because
they don't want their players to go out there and
look great on film or in the spring game and
another school comes in and offers them a whole bunch
of money and then they leave to go to that
(21:22):
school after they perform in the spring game.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
See, this was a big part of it. Play This
was a really big part of it. So last season,
Penn State and that SMU, they lost their backup quarterbacks
to the portal while they were still in the College
Football Playoff. But the biggest thing was Marshall opted out
of a bowl game because we don't have enough players. Like, really,
your whole damn team transferred out. But they didn't have
(21:47):
enough players to plan a ball game. But you know
why they didn't have enough players? You know why? Well,
supposedly because a coach took another job. So my thing
is this what happened? What happened to me? Hold up,
hold up lex. If a coach can take another job
(22:07):
whenever the hell he wants, then why can't a player
transfer whenever the hell he wants? Like, if it's good
for him, it's good for me. And so the players
that Marshall entered the portal because the coach took another job.
If a coach can take a job in December, then
the players should be able to transfer in December. Very simple,
(22:29):
like they these archaic rules of it's gonna the players
can't get played, but the coach is gonna make generational
wealth on the back of the players. They finally did
away with that. Now the players can get paid. And
you got these dumb ass coaches talking about, Oh man,
the players are making so much money. So were you
on the backs of the players go to one of
(22:51):
these weak schools and make a hundred million and win games?
Oh you can't, you can't. And so I get. I
am for some type of reform to this, but don't
try to keep handicapping the players. You've done this long enough.
You did this to us, You did it to us.
But now that it's on the even playing ground, if
(23:14):
a coach can take a job, a player should be
able to transfer. I do believe it should just be
one window. But if a coach is gonna leave, a
player gotta look after himself because we a lot of
times we don't go to the school for the school.
We go to the school for the coaches. We go
to the school because of the relationship we build with
a coach, and if he leaves and I need to
be able to leave, I don't care what the portal
(23:36):
and the transfer window says. What say you.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Man, this and none that I've listened to, you know,
everything that you just said and everything that's going on
with the n c A, n I L and giving
them one window on one window to transfer or in
I L or whatever. This happened to me years ago.
This happened to me back in nineteen ninety nine and
(24:07):
a great coach, boy the name of Nick Saban left
us while the season was still going on. And as
a kid, you really understand he's like, man, like we
still we had a bowl game to go to and
it was just up in the middle of the night
and he was gone. So it's been going on for
(24:28):
quite some time. But I think there's just been so
much turnover with this transfer portal, and the parody in
college football right now is at all time high. And
Alabama's no longer Alabama. The Clipsons of the world. In
these top tier, top five programs, Oklahomas and the Texas
(24:53):
and all of those, I mean, they're good now, but
the consistency of what these program MS brought to college
football and how great they were those times, those days
no longer exists because you know, you have you know,
the SMUs and you have you know, Florida State coming
(25:13):
back into dominance. You have you know, uh, you have,
you have great skill these smaller schools now playing on
a national scale, which you didn't have, you know, fifteen
twenty years ago. And I think that that's what they
really want to get back to. They want to get
back to the Miamis and the Texas and the Oklahomas
(25:34):
and the us Seas and the UCLA's and the Tennessee's.
They want to get back to those those big programs
and giving these giving the guys one one chance or
one opportunity to to make a decision. Because if I'm
a player and you know, we don't we don't have
the season that I think we're going to have, and
my coach Leeds and you can you can make a
(25:58):
decision in January to leave the coach Leeves like that,
that gives me, you know, a lot of leverage and
an opportunity to make our decisions.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
You know, well, you know what, I'm not going to stay.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I'm not going to transfer right now, because I know
I have a window in April, and I think that's
what the NBC Double A is is trying to limit.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Have a full have a roster.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
That the n C double as that they know where
the players are going to be going into the spring.
And I think that's what they're trying to do, because
these rosters are flip flopping like crazy. And I'm gonna
just be honest with you. I don't even know half
the guys on my team and skaped, I just root
(26:46):
for my school.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah to me, doorway with the December window. I don't
believe kids should be transferring when your team is playing
Doorway with the December window. If your team is in
a college football playoff, you can't transfer, but open the
window January to whatever date. You should still have two
windows January to whatever date, and then again in the spring.
(27:09):
Because you may be thinking about transferring, you talk to
your coaches, they tell you it's going to be X,
Y and Z, and then you get to spring ball
you realize it's not X Y and Z. Oh I'm transferring.
You lie to me, but they'll lie to you because
then they know you locked in for a year. And
so that to me would be the next best thing.
But these coaches in these administration, man, y'all been taking
(27:33):
advantage of US players for decades. Decades. You coaches have
made millions upon millions upon millions of dollars on the
back of us for decades. Stop crying and complaining and
do what's best for the kids. Always trying to do
what's best for you, and then tell you we student athletes. No, no, no, no, no,
(27:54):
the majority is are athletes students. Let's just call it
what it is.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Every coach, you know, it comes to saying, now, well,
the kids are trying to do the best thing for me,
so I gotta do the best thing for myself.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Exactly playing now, exactly. Sorry, it used to be the
other way around, used to and we need to keep
it how it is because it's fair for all parties.
It's fair for all parties. Alo, man, What you got
for us? Man with the updates? Man, we went a
little long. We sorry about that.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
What you get both only ten push up seats?
Speaker 7 (28:27):
No, I'm just kidding, it's fine.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Number two Penn State guys has a ten nothing lead
over Florida International at halftime.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Lamar Rington has not really been a factor so far.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
But there's I'm so mean.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Number seven.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Number seven, Texas up twenty eight to seven over San
Jose A State three minutes and fifty seconds left to
play in the second quarter. Longhorn quarterback Arch Manning eleven
of fifteen for one eighty four touchdown passes, including this
one courtesy of Craig way On kV et shotten.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Stamps Manning off books forty deep up for what pounder
living should Blida Cats in forty took big deal Dena
sevenns for forty for thardon say.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
To this one p.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Livingston, but cats and Rodin and a past fort eighty
three yard touchdown.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Number eleven Illinois as a fourteen to six lead at
Duke with two to eighteen left in the second quarter. Elsewhere,
with forty eight seconds left in the second quarter, Fourteenth
ranked Florida State leads East Texas A and M forty
nine to nothing. Florida State quarterback Tommy Castellato seven of
ten for two hundred and thirty yards and touchdown passes
(29:36):
of forty two yards, fifty three yards and eighty two yards.
Sixteenth ranked Iowa State ahead of Iowa thirteen to three
with one forty six left in the second quarter, and
at least one Iowa fan has seen enough at Cato
Hawk posting on a message board quote time to go
pull weeds and sweep the garage unquote. Number seventeen SMU
(29:59):
ahead of Baylor twenty four to twenty one late in
the second quarter. Number twenty three Indiana up twenty one
to six at halftime over Kansas State. Twenty fourth Rngth
Texas Tech leading Kent State forty one to nothing with
thirty seconds left on the first half. Number nineteen Texas
A and M meanwhile holding just a ten to six
(30:20):
lead over Utah State early in the second quarter, and
a lot of Aggie fans are not amused. These courtesy
of the social media site message board geniuses at AG
five one two posting quote Mike Elko is worse than
Jimbo Fisher at Buckmaster adding seven and five at best
(30:44):
with this bleep defense, and finally at hoss ag commenting
simply quote, we are dog bleep. Now back to two
guys who definitely are not dog bleep.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Wow he Jan Plex, Hey, Hey, no Texas, No fans
a pissed.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
That's what we got next week Texas and him in
South Ben I hope that that looked.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Good for y'all. They got all this talent. They have
all this talent every year and it's like, Uh, what
are they doing with all the talent? Absolutely nothing? But
what what is this? We we gotta be quick on
this and we're gonna touch on this is we have
about what's up with Bill Belichick? Bro? Like North Carolina
(31:30):
your squirrel opening touchdown on your first drive to start
the season, and then it was just nothing the rest
of the way to the end of the game. But
why are you banning Patriots scouting staff members from your
program from coming to watch practice? Why are you doing this? Like,
Bill Bell, do you realize how this makes you look? Like?
(31:51):
What is wrong with this dude? Man?
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I have no idea. Man, he's in a position of power.
He's always been in the position power. But college is
more than pro We know that. And I don't know
what the what he's hiding or what he doesn't want
the Patriots regime to see, But there's definitely something behind
(32:20):
him not allowing the Patriots the Scouts players. It doesn't
even make sense. So it just tells me that there's
something going on in New England. Nah, you know what
it is plex to me.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You know what it tells me he's still bitter about
the way his exit went from the Patriots, because you're
not banning nobody else. You're not banning other teams. You
just banning the Patriots. It's you're not banning the Jets,
you banning the Cowboys, Scouts, You not banning the Chief Scouts.
It's just the Patriots. So you're bitter about how things
(32:55):
went with Robert Kraft when he decided to let you go?
H can he really? Can he do that? Though he
munch can't. He's doing it. He's doing it.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I just think that some of the things that he
was doing in New England he doesn't want them to
see or experience. There's something going on other than him
being fired the way that he was. I really believe
that there's two separate things going on internally when he
was in New England and now that he's in North Carolina.
(33:30):
Is bigger than him being fired from the organization.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I just that's just something. I believe. It's some personal
we don't know, but he better win some games. If
you're gonna act the way he acted in New England,
he was able to be rude to people and treat people,
at least it seems from the outside looking in the media,
a certain type of way, players, a certain type of way.
He was able to do that because he was winning.
He was able to do it because he was winning.
(33:55):
He won so many Super Bowls. He had Tom Brady.
But without mister Brady, Bill Belichick has shown to be
a below not an average, a below average coach. I
think Sante Say said it best, So he better start winning,
(34:15):
because to me, the longer he coaches, the more you
start to question, damn, it really was all Brady, it
really was. The longer he coaches, the more he exposes himself,
at least in my eyes. And I know the people
that play for him, they love him. He's a great
coach and he probably is a really great teacher. But
(34:38):
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(37:56):
not sure how I did, but I know I did
great or let me say I have no idea. We
go see. Uh, let's see what mister Burris did. And
we know LeVar is always the basement lab, whether he's
here or he is n't. We're getting ready from up
on Game down on Game, and let's get last week's results.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Time for some picks.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Are you up on game, Let's crack this up. Let's
break it up.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Down on Game.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
Yes, that's right up on game down game. Last week's results,
LeVar three and three, TJ, you went three and three plaques,
you went one in five go.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
You gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
So there's there is room for improvement. And it was
the first week, so we're getting used to it.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
You know what, plex is out here like Bill Belichick
without breaking.
Speaker 7 (38:55):
We are going to start this week, uh, Camboard making
his debut in the NFL on the road against the
Denver Broncos. Denver an eight and a half point favorite here.
The total has currently said that forty two and a
half and TJ, we're gonna start with you here.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Too, total forty two. Man. I just remember being in
meeting rooms and a head coach will get up and say,
we only get to face a RICKI one time and
as his first start ever in the National Football League,
and we gonna make it hell for him. That's what
I believe the Denver Broncos will do for cam Ward.
They gonna make it tough. It's gonna be an uphill battle.
(39:30):
I'm gonna take the Denver Broncos. I'm gonna give up
the eight points.
Speaker 7 (39:33):
What was the over under forty two and a half.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
And I'll say it will go over. I like it
to be about a thirty eight to fifteen type score.
I take the Denver Broncos, oh Man, going to Mount
Hi Stadium.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I am a lifetime oh and two, So I'm gonna
go under the forty two points. Just like TJ said,
I believe Denver Broncos are gonna get after cam Mood
in this first start. Historically the Tennessee does not put
up a lot of points, So I'm going under the
forty two and I'm gonna take the oval on for
(40:10):
the Broncos at eight and a half.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
So I'm gonna take the oval on the eight.
Speaker 7 (40:12):
And a half, all right? Next up Sunday Night, the
Baltimore Ravens head to Buffalo Baltimore one and a half
point road favorite in this one. The total is currently
fifty and a half. Complax will start.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
With you man, I'm going under the fifteen and a half.
It's gonna be a battle. Lamar Jackson is the real
MVP with a real MVP stand up. Josh Allen was
not the real MVP. We know how that story goes.
So I'm taking the Baltimore Ravens plus one and a half.
I believe that the Baltimore Ravens will redeem themselves. It's
(40:45):
gonna be a defensive game. So I'm going under the
fifty and I'm taking Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
It's gonna be interesting. Josh Allen was a right for MVP,
but I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the Baltimore Ravens.
They're really good in the regular season. They blew the
Bills out last year in the regular season. But I
believe points will come, and points will come fast and curious.
So I will take the over with the points. But
I like the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 7 (41:09):
Also, all right. And to round it out, Monday nights,
the Minnesota Vikings head to Chicago to take on Ben
Johnson and Caleb Williams. The Vikings they wanted to have
a point road favorite here. The total is currently at
forty three.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
And a half. Man, I'm gonna go under on the points.
Don't ask me why. That really makes no sense, but
I'm gonna do it. But I actually like the Chicago Bears. Sure,
I don't know what we're gonna get out of JJ
McCarthy this first start in the National Football League. But
I don't know what I'm gonna get out of Ben
Johnson and Kayler Williams. Johnson, but it's something that tells
(41:45):
me they gonna figure this out. I like the Chicago Bears,
and I'm going you.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Know what, I'm not a firm believing Kayler Williams as
of yet Ben Johnson and his first head coaching job
against his former divisional opponent. I'm gonna take the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I really do. Chicago Bears. No Keenan Allen, no safety blanket.
So I'm going to go over on the point stire
will be no defense being played, and I'm taking the
Minnesota Vikings to start off on one under the news
starting quarterback JJ McCarthy. All right, to see if Brian
(42:29):
Flores can confuse him. Can Brian Flores confused? Kayler Williams,
he will that that will be to me the kid
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