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August 3, 2024 42 mins

LaVar, TJ, and Plax discuss which big name WR is next up to get paid and how their teams should approach it, a pair of QB injuries and how they change their teams plans moving forward, Simone Biles winning more gold medals, thoughts on the NFL’s new kickoff rules, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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on the team.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
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the locker room, like I don't play with some dude
that you disrespect them anyway, it didn't matter who it
was they was putting hands on you and Blaxico Burro, they.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Are the same person, the same exact quarterback.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
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hour two. We got injuries at the quarterback position, some

(01:45):
key position, key players, I should say, yeah, and we're
gonna talk to some own bows. I'm curious to get
the conversation points from TJ and PLEX because I'm sure
we've had people in our lives that have well talked
horribly about us, talked talked in away where they counted
us out, and then we had an opportunity to get

(02:06):
a redemption on it. That's what Simone Bows has got.
So we'll talk about that as well. We'll get to
a few more things before we get up out of here,
but let's first start with the receivers. We've been talking receivers,
we've been talking contract situations. I think there again, I
think there's an idea right now, if you ask me
about Jamar Chase and CD Lamb, and I want to

(02:28):
get y'all's opinions on this, looking at the markets, looking
at how Justin Jefferson established the market with the blockbuster
contract that he's done.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
I want to ask this so you guys, and I
think I know the answer.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
I would believe that CD Lamb and Jamar Chase think
that they are respectably the best receiver in the National
Football League and have done the most for their organizations,
thus meaning that they want to have the most money
in their contract. They want to reset the market with

(03:04):
the contracts that they're doing. Is it safe to think
or assume? And this is just something that I was
thinking the other day and kind of brought up on
two pros. Do you feel like these teams are trying
to wait each other out? And if so, I wonder
who is the team that says, Okay, we're going to
do the deal now. We want to do the deal
now so that we don't have to come back and

(03:26):
try to outdo a new established highest paid receiver in
the league. And which is the team not saying well,
I want to wait and see what they do, so
if they don't beat that Justin Jefferson contract, that well,
we only have to beat the contract that this team
just did, and we can say, well, we'll meet somewhere
in the middle of what this receiver got and what

(03:47):
Justin Jefferson got. But it seems though they're in the
Dallas Cowboys and the Cincinnati Bengals are in a very
very curious situation here in terms of what they need
to do to get these contracts done with these two receivers.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Man, listen, I don't understand what front offices in these
teams are doing. I really don't, because history has shown
when you are dealing with a very good or great player,

(04:24):
it only costs more when you wait. It's only gonna
cost you more when you wait. Uh, Dallas Cowboys, in
Ceedee Lamb, you probably could have signed him for thirty million,
thirty one million.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Months ago, a few months ago.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
But now the Jets has what he's what he signed for,
it's gonna be at least thirty four or thirty five.
So now you cost yourself three million per year. Sign
Michael Parsons right now.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
You keep on waiting, you're gonna you're gonna give them more.
The Bengals.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
One thing about Cincinnati, they gonna pay the quarterback, and
they gonna pay a number one receiver. Everybody else who
knows Jamar Chase is gonna get his money, and he's
gonna get a lot of it. I just don't understand
why wait, Because the longer you wait, you best believe
Tyreek Hill is gonna jump Justin Jefferson, he's gonna jump him.

(05:19):
And as soon as Tyreek Hill jumps him, now you're
gonna give Jamar Chase more than what you would have
to give him. So just get it done now. I
don't understand the logic with these front offices and why
they do this. When you know a guy is going
to be a part of your team, your long term future,

(05:42):
lock him up, Lock him up now, because the longer
you wait, the more you're going to pay.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Lvar.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
I'm sure you remember this very vividly. We're on FS
one before Dak signed his extension. You remember we were
on there talking and I said I would give Dak
thirty two millions. Every y'all said I was crazy. They
gave them forty million a year because they waited. At
that point, everybody, I wouldn't give them a dollar above
thirty million a year. The Cowboys waiting. They end up

(06:11):
giving them forty million a year, and so that ended
up costing them over the span of this four year deal.
You do the math, thirty million dollars because they wanted
to wait. So hey, if you like waiting, it's gonna
cost you thirty million. Keep waiting.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Then, hey man, everything you just said it spot on
the man.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's you know, as an organization, man, you draft these
young men, and you draft the players, and you want
them to come into your organization and be great and
and you know, and help you to try to, you know,
hoist that trophy at the end of the year. And
these guys come in to these guys come to your team,
they do everything that you ask, they do more. They

(06:52):
actually exceed the expectations and become great players in this league.
And when it comes times to comp and say them,
you turn your back on them. It's like, uh, you know,
hey man, yeah, you know, you're a great player. We
love everything that you're doing for us and the team,
but I'm not really really to pay you that kind

(07:13):
of money, which is one of those things where you know,
I've been through it, and you know, it just leaves
a sour takes in your mouth bro about about the
ownership the team, not the guys on a team, but
just how they handle you when it comes time for
you to be paid, and everybody knows what it is,

(07:37):
and you're trying to hold off or try to come
up with a scheme or what's the best way to
not pay him as much as he deserves, and and
and and that's what it's come down to. And you
look at the hold Jamal Chase situation. If if if
you're the Cincinnati Bengals, if you just go to him
right now and mirror the contract that he gets that

(08:00):
Justin Jefferson has received. He's gonna take it because it's
the highest contracting and if I history for a wide receiver,
if you just mirroord that. Now, if Jamar Chase goes
out this year and has one of these seasons where
he gets the eighteen nineteen hundred yards and outperforms Justin
Jefferson and leads the league and catches and and and touchdowns,

(08:23):
now you got another problem on your hands, because now
you got to pay him all money. And the same
thing with Ceedee Lamb and Michael Parks and all these guys.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Man, they have earned it.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
And now when it comes time to, you know, give
these guys a bag that they deserve, you don't want
to give it to them. So for Ceedee Lamb, I
don't blame them from now showing a training camp. I
would expect to see him the first game of the season.
But for him, man, it's a business and that's what
That's one of the hard things you learned about the

(08:54):
players when you come in to the league. Now, you
want to do all these great things, but the business
side of it is what is It can sometimes stop
you from getting to where you want to be as
a player.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
I just I'm just curious as to what incentivizes organization
to actually go up to those types of numbers, even
knowing that you can save that money or that you
may eventually have to pay those numbers. It's like, what
is the incentive right now? These guys still have contracts?

(09:29):
Like I think that sometimes we lose sight of it,
and I get it, like you gotta wait or you know,
why wait when you can give them the money now?

Speaker 3 (09:38):
But I just am I wrong for thinking that?

Speaker 5 (09:43):
I guess the the the the glass has empty approaches.
What if something happens, what if we don't have a
good season. What if what if it doesn't look the
way that we wanted.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
To var LeVar?

Speaker 4 (09:55):
When when when a guy like Brandon Ayuk, Let's specifically
talk receiver Brandon auk Ceedee Lamb Jamar Chase. When a
guy's young, it doesn't matter. If you have a good
season as a team, you know you won him part
of your future. You drafted him, you developed him, and

(10:15):
he hit. It was a good draft pick, a great
draft pick. You know he's going to be a part
of your future. The earlier you can give him an extension,
the less it's going to cost you. The Eagles do
a great job with this. Look at what Look what
the Detroit Lions did with this offseason with Pene Sewel

(10:36):
and Almnroe Saint Brown.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Look what they did.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
If they wait and a Monroe sees what these guys,
You think he gonna sign for thirty million year? He
gonna want thirty one to thirty two. You think what
Tristan Worth should signed for. If they don't give Piney
Seuel that he's gonna so the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Said, Williams is waiting for his kid. Right.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
The Detroit Lions now have turning into the Eagles. We
don't lock our young players up a little early because
it's the smart thing to do because in two years,
guess what's gonna happen. Man, these dudes got they're on
great deals because the cap goes up every year. And
let me just let you in, in a secret, I'm met

(11:18):
with somebody that's real. He he has a lot of
understanding and swearing what goes on in the NFL. And
he told me to my face. And I wasn't the
only one around. It was myself, Keith, Shawn Johnson, Shady McCoy.
It was a lot of us in this meeting.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Man. They hide behind a salary cap.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Every team in every organization can give you any type
of contract, they won't, but they say the word salary
cap because they hide behind it. There's always ways around
it if you want to make a way around it,
But when you don't want to make a way around it,
you say the salary cap.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
So the fans understand.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
And I was like wow, And he started explaining it
to us and we walked out of there like WHOA.
So they can get it done if they want to.
Don't let them tell you it's a salary cap. It
really isn't it's not.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Well, I guess we're gonna have to wait and see
what that looks like because time continues to wind down,
and well doesn't seem like there's a solution in sight.
So we'll keep our eyes on that and we'll talk
about it here, all right. Coming up next Herbert Smith

(12:25):
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Speaker 5 (14:44):
All right, welcome back into the show. It is up
on game. We are live from the tyrack dot com studios. Fellas,
we got some quarterback injuries. Need to understand the significance
of it.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Now.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
It seems like Justin herber Berts isn't going to be
too bad. I think they're saying they're reporting four to
six weeks. I believe I could be off on that,
but it seems as though the Geno Smith injury is
much more significant and they do not know when.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
He will return.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
What does this mean for hardball coming in being a
new coach to the Chargers team going into this season,
and what does this mean for the Seattle Seahawks that
now have a new head coach as well. So you
got two new new head coaches, but injuries to veterans

(15:43):
at the most important position on the team.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
How are you guys looking at this? What what should
be the approach? Go ahead, Plex, I go after you
on this one. Jim Hartball has time.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
So he's coming up a national championship in college, so, uh,
this his first season. No matter what they do or
where they all recognize, he's going to get a pass
because he's hardball and he just want to He just
wanted to have the champage him in college, and now
they are going to you know, afford him a little
bit more time that they would, uh, you know, a

(16:16):
normal coach him with him being the coach of the Chargers.
Because of that and alone, everybody saying that, you know,
maybe it's Justin Herbert or maybe he's the one that's
not getting the job done and put more of the
onus on him for you know, the uh why the
Chargers haven't got to where they need to go. So

(16:37):
I just think that if if they're coming into the
first show of him being a head coach and they
want to you know, be better than they were last year,
which I don't think they are because they basically let
everybody go. Keenan Allen, Austin Akiler, and Mike Williams are
now gone. Who is Justin Herbert going to be throwing
the ball to if they want to be this great offense?

(16:59):
And I don't think you even think they make the
playoffs because we all know that they're playing in the
AFC West.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
We know who the kings all that division.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
So I don't really think it's going to really hurt
the Charges, being that you know he's not healthy or
he's not playing. I just think that what you're going
to get out of Charges is what everybody thinks.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
I think they're going to be a.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Nine and eight eight nine football team, and I just
don't think they get to double digits ten twelve plus
wins because I just don't think they're that good in
a division I believe, and they got worse on offense.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Oh man, we all know what hardball is as a coach.
We all know when you look at his history from
University of San Diego to Stanford to the forty nine
Ers to Michigan, we all know what he's been able
to accomplish at each stop. I don't see anything that

(18:01):
would prevent him from doing the same thing with the Chargers.
Herbert now has planner fast shot.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
If I don't believe it's a tear it, maybe I'm
not sure that's gonna be a problem because that's gonna
linger He's supposed to take the next two weeks off,
but if he doesn't get close to one hundred percent,
he has to at least be ninety five percent. If not,
it's gonna linger the entire season. I just believe in

(18:30):
Horrball as a coach so much that he just gonna
find a way. I was able to spend some time
with the Chargers in Harball, and I see why he went, like, Man, Harball,
there in this, Jordan cles bro he out there in this,
Jordan cleeds.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Every practice teacher.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
Harball liable to go under center and be the quarterback
for three four plays, Like look like I'm getting under center.
I'm throwing the ball in this period for three or
four plays. Post practice workouts, Harball hopping in with them,
and so it's the belief. You sit in these meetings

(19:12):
with them and you hear them talk and you listen
to what he's saying. It's like, wow, that, yeah, that
makes a lot of sense. It's just something about him
that I'm not even a player, and I was believing
any So I know the players believe any I just
feel like he gonna find a way. He's going to

(19:32):
find a way. The Chargers lost a lot of close games.
They're not losing those close games with Hardball as their
head coach. Now, they gonna win more than they lose
those close games with him at the helm, and so
I believe they'll be better than they've been. But it's

(19:52):
not They're in a division with the best quarterback in
the National Football League.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
That's a uphill battle. That's hard.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
They're in a conference where you can name ten teams
and I can maybe not ten, but I can name
six teams. All six that I name, you could say
I can see him going to the super Bowl just
in the conference. And so it's it's not going to
be easy. It's not so I can name absolutely. I
can name the Kenson and the entire AFC. I thought

(20:21):
the knsas City Chiefs, Baltimore Ravens, Yeah, Cincinnati Bengals, Yeah,
like you can just name So.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
I thought you were talking about the AFC West. No, no, no,
no no, because I.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
Think the AFC West is a one horse uh a
one horse race if you ask me right now, And
it's all the kinds of quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
It seems that way.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
I'm telling you, coaching in the National Football League matters
more than any sport. Coaching in the NFL matters more
than any sport, and I believe we're gonna see that
this year with Harbaugh and the Chargers. But he doesn't
have the team that he needs and wants right now.
He'll get there, but with his coaching, they're going to

(21:03):
be better because that's how good of a coach he is,
and we all know that. But it's gonna be enough
to a battle. They need justin Herbert healthy, they need
him ready to go. And they signed Gus Edwards, JK. Dobbins,
they draft Joe aud Then they telling you man, they
tell you run yeah, yeah, And so we're gonna run

(21:26):
the ball. We're gonna make you stack this box. We're
gonna make you play single high safety. Now we got
this strong on quarterback. Our receivers just gotta get it
done because you're gonna get one on one out there.
You're gonna get one on one, whether it's cover three coverage,
you getting one on one coverage.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Who can win? All Right?

Speaker 5 (21:42):
This is a young quarterback you guys chose to stay
on and talk about. But Gino Smith is not a
spring chicken. He's not a young quarterback. And it just
comes across as a very very volatile situation for Geno
Smith who gets a second chance, added a second cret
it and ends up getting injured. And for this Seattle

(22:03):
Seahawks team that is well, they're in the transitional state
and trying to figure it out. How do you guys
see this playing out for Seattle if Geno Smith is
unable to return to the team.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
I don't think Geno's going anywhere. I think he is
the quarterback of this football team. I think they know
that too. They wouldn't have given him the contract that
they did if he was not going to beat the
quarterback for the next few years or the remaining part
of his contract. But it hasn't always surrounded Geno wherever

(22:39):
he's been, they've always doubted the young man, and rightfully so.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
He hasn't you know, you know, been in that top
ten or elite level quarterback in his career.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
But to me, all young men does this goes out
and he wins games and they're in a tough division.
Obviously they won't win the division because we know that
the San Francisco forty allends, we don't win that division.
But for him to come from from where he uh
was was to putting this team back on the map

(23:14):
as being a respectable, you know team winning nine ten
games with the weapons some of the weapons that he's had.
I mean, what else more do you want the young
man to do other than win the division? And we
know that's not gonna happen. So it's always going to
be is Geno the guy? Uh you know, is he
good enough for whatever the case may be. He's going

(23:35):
to be the guy until they no longer want him.
And you you're not gonna find a better quarterback that
at at his position right now. That's that you can
get to this organization. So you're just gonna have to
set up for what you have and that's Geno and
he's gonna go out, he's gonna manage a football game,
well he uh you know, he's gonna have them, uh,

(23:56):
you know, having them these guys an opportunity to win
the game. At the end. They're gonna play well at home.
How good can they be on the road? I think
that's one of the main things for them because everybody
knows how difficult it is to go to Seattle and
get a win. So if they're gonna win at home
and they just have to find a way to be
able to manufacture some wins on the road.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Yeah, when you talk about that situation, it's tough because
you're in the division with a team that's pretty much
been dominant the last three years, dominant in the Niners.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
You have a team with the Rams that.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
With McVeigh at the helm as their head coach, their
play caller, they're always gonna be in contention. I need
to see how this defense is gonna be without ninety nine.
That's gonna be the key. Without Aaron Donald. I need
to see how this defense is gonna look. I like
the Cardinals, man, I like what Jonathan Gannon did as

(24:54):
a head coach. Kyler Murray now should be fully healthy,
Marvel Harrison, Michael Wilson and those boys on offense. That
division is going to be better because the Cardinals are
going to be better. They gonna push them. I think
for seattle Man and Gino Smith, they not making the playoffs,

(25:18):
whether where he's a quarterback or not. It is new
head coach. And yeah, you have DK, you have Tyler Lockett,
you have Jackson Smith and Jigba, Kenneth Walker, Noah Fan
That's some good offensive weapons. But you're in a division
with a dominant team and two of the better head

(25:39):
coaches in the league, not in the division, in the
league in Shanahana McVeigh, and I just believe that the
Cardinals will be a better football team. So for Seattle
and Gino Smith, I don't believe this season is gonna
go the way they would like.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yikes. All right, well you heard it here from TJ
and Plexico.

Speaker 5 (26:02):
Let's get an update from our guy, Isaac Loewin Crawn
and on the other side of it, let's talk a
little Simone Bows all right, all right, islove what you got.
We're gonna talk about Hancock and skeet skeating.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
We are all right.

Speaker 7 (26:15):
They're calling him the the sit on social media greatest
skeet shooter of.

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All time because it's crazy.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
Yeah, Vincent Witting with gold medal today and men's skeet
shooting the fourth gold medal of his career. However, Simone Biles,
I gotta say hasn't beat by three gold medals because
today at the Olympics she won the women's vault competition
for the seventh gold medal of her career in women's soccer. Today,

(26:47):
team USA defeated Japan in the quarterfinals at extra time,
one to nothing on a Trinity Rodman goal, so the
Americans will face either Canada or Germany in the semi finals.
On Tuesday, the US men's basket fotball team improved to
three to zero at the Olympics, winning its final group
game over Puerto Rico one four to eighty three, led

(27:07):
by Anthony Edwards twenty six points on eleven of fifteen
shooting from the field, Lebron James ten points, six rebounds
and eight assists. Today's Enshrine mid ceremony in Canton for
the Pro Football Hall of Fame class of twenty twenty
four was delayed because of severe weather, but the doors
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(27:28):
in Major League Baseball, the Yankees with a two to
one lead over the Toronto Blue Jays at the top
of the second inning on a two run home run
in the bottom of the first inning by Aaron Judge,
his forty first home run of the season, and sixteen
of the forty one have come in the first inning.
Fell us back to.

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Speaker 5 (29:04):
Know we have had moments in our lives where people
took tremendous, tremendous liberties at taking harsh and hard shots
at us. And I ain't talking about the skeet shooting
type of shots. I'm talking about your finished, You're done,
You're washed. Who do you think you are? Oh you're

(29:27):
so spoiled. Oh you're not really hurt? What kind of
this is that? Oh? Get them out of there. That's
how they were talking about some own bows. Not too
long ago, people were throwing all kinds of dirt onto
some own bows. How dare she come out and say
she can't compete? She's a quitter? Da da da her

(29:50):
mental health? Who's talking about mental health here? She's a
gold medalist. It's an excuse. And now, all these years later,
simone Bows gets the last laugh. How does this make
you feel? I know, listen, plex, I was there with you.
I was a little removed when you had the situation happen,

(30:13):
but you certainly made a hell of a comeback and
was resilient and being in the moments that you were in,
the lonely moments that you had and came back and
bounced back.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Do you guys create a kill? Liss?

Speaker 5 (30:28):
Is there is there a revengeless that you create of
the people that say the things about you and do
the things that they do in the moment, in your
dark moments, like how are you guys looking at what
Simone Bows did and how does that compared to something
that's may have happened in your lives.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Well, for me, Simone Bows is number one the greatest
gymnasts in the in the history of gymnastics, the greatest
female gymnast in the history of gymnastics. She sheat her
and Katie the Decade may be the greatest female Olympians ever.
K the Decade is a swimmer for us to be

(31:09):
in Tokyo and have the twisties as they're called in gymnastics,
and you have to pull out. You're at the Olympics,
and for gymnasts that's the culmination of years of hard
work and for you have to pull out of that
because you're just not right. You may end up hurting
yourself and to pull out and come back and you're

(31:32):
better than ever.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Doc.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
We don't in the world of gymnastics, these young women
they're done at sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old. You don't
see gymnasts in their late twenties doing what she's doing
and so I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Man.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
We as a family, we watching all of it. We
watching all the Olympics all through to that. I mean
we going to bed late with TVO one channel and
we going back to watch it late, late, late at night.
And so to see her win the individual vault this morning,

(32:10):
she won gold in that she's going for gold on
the balance beam and the floor exercise later today.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
And so.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
To overcome that, because you know, if you put it
in the baseball terms, it as if having the yips
as a baseball player, they said for quarterbacks too, you
had the yips. So to overcome that and be better
than ever at an age where you don't see this
in gymnasts, Happy for her family, keep going, Go win

(32:42):
a couple more gold medals, solidify your position even more
so that the next young lady that wants to chase it,
you're you're putting it to where if they reach it,
it's extreme greatness.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Man.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
I remember the whole situation when you know she came
on and sad as she was withdrawn because she had
the twisties, and I only think people understood the magnitude
of what she was trying to tell him is that
when she comes off the vaul, she comes up off
the bars, she doesn't know where she's at in the air,
so she knows right then, You know what, First of all,

(33:20):
I can really seriously hurt myself, and I'm not at
my best right.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Now to help this team.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
So the best thing for me, my own safety, and
for the team is for me to withdraw. And people
were saying, oh man, what kind of person withdraws at
this moment for the Olympics. These are some of the
things that people were saying about it. They was like,
she's out numbered. For her to be able to make

(33:47):
this decision during the game just shows how soft the
world has gotten. And then people go on to say,
I'm not going to say the man's name, and he
goes on to say, and I think it reflects pretty
poorly on a sort of therapeutic society that we get
to praise people not for moments of strength, not for

(34:11):
moments of heroism, but for their weakness and moments and
you listen to those things, and trust me, she heard
everything that everybody had to say about her, not even
knowing if she was going to be able to return
to the gymnastics field and being able to compete because

(34:31):
you don't know how far this thing is going to
take her from a mental standpoint, and for her to
bounce back and come back and just being able to compete,
but not just competing, going out there and winning and
catapulting herself back to the pinnacle of the sport in
this world. Man, you cannot do nothing but simply just

(34:53):
tip your hat to this young woman because she didn't
say anything about it to anybody.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
She heard everything to everybody.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Was saying about her, and then she went out there
and she did what Simon Bows does and was even
better than she was before.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
So for her, man, congratulations.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
And you know, she's the most decorated woman female gymnast
of all time. And I personally believe that I don't
think she's done. She's probably gonna go out and compete
more in the next four years. What is the Olympics
is in California next year, next four years, next four
Los Angeles, baby, And I think she's going to end

(35:34):
it that home to be really over thirty. If she
did that, that would probably, I believe, make her the
oldest competing gymnasts, and obviously to compete at that age
and when she would be breaking some types of new records.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
Congrats to you some own bows. Continue to do your thing.
Good luck to you. That's Plexico Birds.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
That's t J. Hutchman's Eida. I'm LeVar Arrington. This is
up on Game.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
Yes, I said the kickoff rule in the first hour,
and I am going to pay off the t's. We
are going to wrap the show and discuss how our
guys felt about the new kickoff and the kickoffs in
the in the Hall of Fame game and how it
will take place during the course of this year.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
It's up on Game. It's TJ.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
Hushman's Eyes, Plexico Burs, LeVar Arrington, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
Oh this is not the sample. This that original right here.
H Pete Rock, Baby Pete Rock crushed that beat. He
sampled it, but he crushed it.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Anyway.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Speaking of crushing, we crushed the show. If you missed
any of it, make sure you check it out wherever
it is you get your podcasts from. Make sure you
stay locked in dowt In because Jonas Knox will be
immediately following us after our show concludes. We are live
from the tire Rack dot Com. Studio Plexico Burds TJ.
Hushman's out on LeVar Arrington. We we've talked about a

(37:01):
lot of things. One thing that I want to discuss
before we get up out of here, fellas, was the
new kickoff. They've implemented what they've seen take place in
another league, and due to safety purposes, they line the
guys up right in front of one another. They wait
until the ball is caught, and then they go to

(37:22):
make the play. Personally, as a defender, I think it's trash.
I think it's kimmicky. I think it's butt and I
don't like it.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
I don't like it for our league.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
At some point, gut up and know that guys are
going to get hurt because it's a full contact sport.
I get it, you want you want to lessen the concussions, Okay,
but at some point, guys, it is a full contact,
padded sport.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Let them play, y'all, got it. I'm done with it.
Yeah you know.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, it's the go ahead, plex go ahead, go ahead.
And I'm sitting here reading the rules that the kicker
can't cross the fifty yard line until the ball hits
the ground or the guy catches it. The kicker can't
cross the fifty yard line. He has to stand back
but on the other side of the field until somebody
catches the football pull. So it's basically going to be

(38:16):
I don't know, eleven or ten until the ball hits
the ground or hits the player. I don't know what's
going on. Is totally it's not football. And also one
of the Miscellane's rules is an on side kick at
the beginning.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Of the fourth quarter.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
You got to announce it if you're going to do it, yeah,
and you can only do it if you're losing. You
can go to the referees and say we're going to
do the on side kick if we're losing at the.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Start of the fourth quarter. I don't understand that.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Somebody please break it down, tj U, the NFL of Fishermgattle,
come on, explain it to everybody.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
All right.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
So, look, there's so many different layers to the new kickoff.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Roy. It's different. I will say that that's probably why.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
You may not like it, because it just looks so
different to see the kicker thirty yards forty yards back
whatever he is from the rest of the players on
your team. They're lined up at the forty five yards
apart from each other. Now, when you kick the ball off,
if it lands in the end zone, you can return it,
or you can take the ball at the thirty yard line,

(39:23):
your choice. If you return it, you get it wherever
you stop that. If not, you get the ball at
the thirty. If it lands outside of the twenty yard line,
meaning you try to get it within that twenty to
goal line, and it lands outside.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Of the twenty, they get the ball at the forty.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
And so if you try to get quote unquote cute
with it, you're gonna cost yourself filed a couple first
downs you and field goal range. And so the on
side kick thing, you have to announce we are going
to try an on side kick. You can't just do
the surprise onside kick.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Now you even doing on side kicks with this this alignment.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
No, no, no, it will now be the original on side
kick alignment. You back up and you do it how
it's always been done. You just have to announce. So
the days of the surprise on side kick, you know,
Seanpagne puller that thing out or who they can't.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
You can't do that anymore.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
So now you have to let the other team be
unware that you are going to make it on side kick,
so they can change their.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Personnel and align differently.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, and match your personnel for on side kick.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
That's crazy, exactly exactly. I mean, what is it? What's
gonna happen next?

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Man? They gonna line up in four or five wide
receivers and the quarterback is going to have a teleor referee,
terleor referee. Hey man, we're going deep? Were all running phase?
I mean, is that what it's coming down to? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (40:56):
I mean it seems like he So I guess I
was wrong. Tyreek killed your son of new deal three
years ninety million, so hey, but when you what, Tyrek
is thirty one years breaking news?

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Huh yeah, thirty one years old. Not bad for him.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
But yeah, it's just gonna take everybody some time to
get used to seeing that formation because we're accustomed to
seeing it a different way.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
It just looks so different.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Once our eyes calibrate itself and get used to that
and our brains will be all right. But it does
look very odd when you see that formation.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
It does. It looks odd, but we'll get used to it.
I don't like it.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
I think it's dumb, but you know what, everybody's gonna
have their opinions to it, and everybody's gonna still watch football,
that's for certain. So that's DJ Hris Bizada, that's Plexaco Burst.
I'm LeVar Arrington. Hey listen, make sure you enjoy your Saturday.
Do something nice for somebody other than yourself. It'll make
you feel good. Hey, my guy, Jonas Knox. Yeah you

(41:57):
know what, Jonahs NOTx He's coming up next. We'll make
sure you stay locked in for the Jonas NOx Show
for us here at up on game. Make sure you
enjoy your weekend. We're gonna check y'all out. We'll talk
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