September 18, 2021 • 46 mins
LaVar Arrington presents his theory on Deshaun Watson to TJ Houshmandzadeh and Plaxico Burres, and the guys explain to LaVar why one aspect of his theory falls apart. Who should be in line to take the USC job? Plus, the guys make their picks for the weekend and tell you if they're Up On Game or Down On Game!
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This is up on Game with Lavarrei, tent t J
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plex Where are you at the triall? Where are you at?
Welcome an hour two that stretched armstrong Plexico version. You
got hair man himself, the hair hero, the hair slayer,
uh t J. Hushman Zada and I'm LaVar Arrington, I'm
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just the guy that carries the waters and make sure
that they're good to go. Uh, all right, guys, as promised,
we're we're gonna have this conversation. We've been talking quarterbacks.
Quarterbacks have been the largest, far and away the largest
conversation of this year's season for the National Football League,
which means business is great for the National Football League
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because it's a lee, a quarterback driven league. DeShawn Watson
still in limbo as to what's gonna take place with
his future. I had a theory, and I want to
toss this theory out at you guys. Um, just based
upon looking and continuing to see how this thing is evolving. Um,
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I came up with a theory and and so here
it is. Okay, right now you have Tyrod Taylor being
named the starter. Foreseeably, Deshaun Watson will never play another
down for the Houston Texans. But you you're not getting
the value. No one is offering you the value. There
are still teams hot on the trail of trying to
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acquire him in a trade, but no one is coming
close to offering what the Houston Texans would want in
exchange for allowing him to go and I start thinking
to myself, you would want to get rid of a
liability as large as the situation is that has developed
with him, um thus far. And so you ask yourself,
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why wouldn't you just let them go and figure out,
you know, contingencies of what takes place in the trade,
even if you don't get full value, because obviously this
could hurt you if something comes back that's bad. Then
I started thinking, hunt if something comes back bad. And
then I was like, oh, my lightbulb went off. I
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started thinking to myself, you're going to want exactly everything
you want from a trade from Deshaun Watson. If I'm
a billion dollar company or even close to being valued
out of billion dollar company, you gotta believe you're you're
using resources to make sure you're protecting your your company.
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And you probably have somebody who was doing deep dives
into the Deshaun Watson situation. Now you have prosecutors in
Houston that have begun a grand jury investing gation, a
grand jury investigation. Now to me, I don't know that
you need a conviction on somebody to go after them.
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I don't know what the limitations are, what the rules, rules,
and protocols are on being able to actually go after
a player for a conduct or whatever clause is may
define this detrimental to the organization. But I started wondering
to myself, are they so you're not gonna put him
on the field, You're not going to address him, he's
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not gonna practice. Why you don't want them to get injured?
And then it's like, Okay, you don't want them to
get injured because you want them to have trade value.
But then I start thinking to myself, man, you don't
want them to get injured because you don't want to
deal with the liability of him getting injured. Then I
started thinking to myself, Okay, well where is he gonna be?
Is he gonna be on the sideline Dota dot? Isn't
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that we don't care? We don't care where you're gonna be.
But then it's like, okay, well, why wouldn't you care
where he's going to be. Here's what I came up with.
You're holding on to Deshaun Watson the way that you
are knowing that this isn't gonna play out before the
trade dead line takes place with his legal situation. When
you look at the the shan legal situation. You got
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twenty two lawsuits, but the ones that truly matter because
you can get you could get out of the way
of of of a lawsuit that is is is civil.
If it's about the money, you could get through that.
You could get around that. You could you can figure
out ways around that. But there are ten criminal complaints
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that are against him, according to multiple sources from from
the reports. So you gotta clear ten. Ten. You gotta
clear ten like one one is is stressful, but you
gotta do it nine more times to get through this
and and be able to play and and not get
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in trouble by the league, not not be in any situations.
Is it beyond the realm of possibility to think that
they are sitting here and they're saying, if you don't
give us the value that we want for Deshaun Watson,
we're just going to hold him because the moment one
of these ten complaints sticks, we're going to get that
money retroactively back from Deshaun Watson. And that's why you
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can't play them. You can fight that is justified. If
you do play them, you don't play them, you don't
practice them, you don't get them hurt. There's no connection
other than if you want to trade for him, this
is what we want for him. If not, we're just
gonna hold onto him, and if something hits, we're going
to be able to get our money back. And I
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feel like that has to be the thinking of this organization. Well,
you guys think this is what I'll say is the
criminal cases. These things take so long. This can go
on forever. But my my opinion on Deshaun Watson is this.
The Houston Texans owe him ten million dollars this year.
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They're in no Russian They're willing to eat ten millions.
They want six players and or picks, a combination of that.
You're not getting that. I don't. I'm not giving that
up for one player because that one player now is
going to come to a team that we gave up
so much. We don't have enough around him. Next year,
you know what this base salary is thirty five million,
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he will be moved. The Houston Texans will not pay
Deshaun Watson thirty five million dollars to being active every week.
They'll eat this ten million. They won't eat thirty five million.
And so because of that, there's no urgency this year
because it's base salary is ten million dollars. But you're
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giving him ten million dollars for nothing, literally for nothing.
I can't I can't agree with. It's just we're gonna
eat this to These dudes are worth billions of dollars.
That's literally less than that's why, that's why they're worth billions.
Though they're gonna fight for. They're gonna fight for and
they're fighting to see if they can get picks guarantee
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thirty five million. They're not giving this man million. But
if you're not going to get the picks, what else
are you looking for? Why? Why are they keeping them
off the field? Why is he not playing? They don't
want him around that if you play them, if they
want him around, you have a theory. But I'm gonna
asking you a question, right why do you think he
is not the starting quarterback for this team right now?
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Because if you start him, then you justified the pay.
You can't go back and get like if he if
he rendered the service, if you did the work, then
then you can you can fight and say, listen, okay,
I understand that you're gonna take this money from me
moving forward, So you can't you can't do with money, absolutely, no,
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tell me what you think it is. It's always about money.
Plex they're not putting them on the football field because
what's going on outside of football has nothing to do
with money. He hasn't been convicted of anything. He hasn't
he hasn't formally. I just told you what. My Watson
is not playing football right now because what's going on
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the court. They're not going to put him on the
football field and until everything is settled. But he's still cleared. Hey,
nobody's going to trade for him before the deadline, but
they want to. They're not what they want. No, nobody's
giving up what the Texas you're not giving up? Why
are you? Why are you asking for that much? Because
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you don't know what's gonna go on with the criminal
cases that you're not giving somebody might give it to him, yes,
but if you're not going to give us what we want,
we're going to keep. We're gonna hold on to right
because holding because I'm paying you ten million when it
comes thirty five million, I can't hold on any longer.
Just in case everything gets dismissed. I'm gonna take the
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high road on this, Okay, take the high road just
in case everything gets dismissed. Then you eat the ted
the song. Watson will be under set. He'll be playing quarterback.
They are not going to play him until this investigation
is over. I don't agree with that. To do with money.
It has everything. He's not man. Listen here, he's not playing,
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not playing. This is what this is. If he's not
going to ever play for Houston Texas. If a team
was the trade for him, and they the league office
knew Deshaun Watson was gonna play, they wouldn't allow it.
They were not They were not allowed. But why not
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see if you can play him? If the Texas has
talked to the league office, we're not going to play him, Okay,
we don't have to do anything with him. We can
keep and they put him on the field. They're gonna
the moment they say Deshaun Watson will be starting Sunday,
spend him. They will stay And why would they suspend
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him just because of the allegation. That's correct, that's correct.
So it has everything to do with money. Now it
comes back to the original point. If Deshaun Watson was
able to play, like he clears, he correct, he is
able to play correct, but they don't. He doesn't want
to be in Houston. I don't think at this point
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they want him in Houston. So it's not about him
being able to play for Houston. It's about them being
able to offset how large of a contract nut that
is for them to crack like she's already there. Watson
told them that he like Houston. You don't think they
would let him play. I think if Deshaun Watson had
to change the heart, of course they could. They could
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figure it out. Figure it out, Okay, change the heart.
Everything that's going on right now. You may want to
play football, I don't. I don't want to. If the
Houston Texas den you starting more, you think he wouldn't
go out there play, I don't want to. I don't
want to presume what what the and it's thinking? I
would say it fundamentally. Moment to Houston, Texas announced that
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Deshaun Wasson is thought in quarterback Roger Goodell is going
to suspend him. Okay, but if he's for it, But okay,
but now that opens up another can of worms because
if he suspends him or puts him on the commissioner's
exemple list and says he's not permitted to play. Then
now you have to say, what made this moment in
time different from any other moment leading up to this moment.
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Why did you decide to make that decision now based
upon him being pay is Houston Texas is a communication
with the league and Roger Goodell and telling them they
are not going to play. Yeah, but I think that
creates a liability situation for the league, and it also
and and it also creates well it also would create
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a liability for the Texans as well, because that would
give ammunition to Deshaun Watson and the NFL p A
to take action against them. I just don't I don't
fully buy that. That's while I will agree with what
y'a are saying logically speaking, I still look at it
from the standpoint of if you do anything to justify
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him getting his money right now, you have no opportunity,
no chance of retroactively going to get it. And if
this turns out that he ends up getting like if
I'm paying him all the way up until this goes
to a grand jury and they're going to indict him,
and this is going to become a case at which
point in time, I would assume they will. This money
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is guaranteed. They can't go back, Yes they can, t J.
They he's on the roster. You cannot go take money
from somebody that they earned on the roster because you can't.
You can't where I don't care you're telling me you
can't retroactively from the time this stuff is hit on
the roster. He's not on a suspended list. He's not
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on the list to where they've But you're gonna be
able to prepare that in a case, t J. You're
going to be able to prepare that in the case
and say that this is why we are going after
this money this situation because he has not been suspended. Technically,
he's on the roster. TJ. My name is in every
player's NFL contract for what happened to me. Trust me.
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They can take his guaranteed money thank you. No no, no, no,
not that's already been paid. If if he gets money,
that's all, let him go. Hold on, hold on. If
he gets into and he's proven guilty, the NFL and
the Houston Texans will take his guarantee thank you, not
money that's already been paid to guarantee. That's left. Yes,
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it was already been paid. That's what I'm talking. That's
what I'm saying. He's talking about the bar, saying he
would have to pay money back. No guarantee, that's what
I'm talking. I don't know we're on the same on
the same page. But what I'm saying is I can
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guarantee you. I guarantee you that they can retroactively go
after his space if this has been established before. All
we're gonna find out why. We can get a lawyer.
Can we find a lawyer, please, if somebody is out there, lawyer.
I want to because y'all want me, y'all want me
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right now, I can get one. We need to get
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Welcome back, Welcome back to the show. I'm gonna call
you back. I got I got my man and Aging
extraordinaire on the phone. He was trying to coaxing plaxing.
I'm not trying to coerce him out. Hold clary on
this excuse us. He wants to prove himself right. He's
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is trying to do is he wants to prove me
and plax wrong so bad this whole break, he's his phone,
He's been calling everybody, ring, called like ten people. Nobody answered.
He finally got somebody on the phone and the guy
was like, no, no, no, they can't go back now
retroactively signing bonus money. We know that they can recover
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that the base guarantees, which his salary this year is
ten point five million, that's guaranteed. We're speaking to Shaun Watson.
You can't go back and touch that money. You can
avoid the future guarantees and base salary, but you can't
go back and get that money. But once again, for
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those that listen on a regular basis, me and Plexicle
are right. Once again, we just look like this, plex
you know what I mean. Hey, they don't call you
baby face genius for no reason. So we we we
will once once LaVar Um figures out he's wrong, he's
gonna come in here and get back on and try
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to act like he was right. But that's not going
to be that. That will not that will not be
the case. Um LaVar is back. He was wrong, he
was wrong, what we'll see, and I was definitely wrong.
So so my my theory has been blown. Can we
get that? Nitney Lion roar got you can do it?
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Got way Yeah, yeah yeah, Mountain Lion a theory hypothesis.
You know whatever, Why why you don't believe us and
trust in us? Why? Like, why are you don't trust us?
You can't go back trust You can't retroactively go back
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and get his his guaranteed money. That's what we're saying.
But why why don't you trust us? Because it doesn't
Now it doesn't make any sense to me as they
trust us, Jones, I don't understand the trust. I just don't.
I just don't like the way this sounds. I don't
like the way it feels to me. I don't know,
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you had worse days. He's calling me back. Yeah, maybe
he's clearing it up for me, maybe something, Maybe there's
something here that he's going to clear up for me.
So y'all keep talking because I want to get more
clarity on this. Yeah, hold on, hold on. So when
when we we can get off of the Shaun Watson
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until LaVar comes back and decides, Um, what is what?
What do you make of USC firing Clay Hilton after
the second game? Everybody saying Urban Mars, Aubert Mars should
take the job? Who would you hire and who would
you look to call even if they tell you no
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for that head coaching job if you're USC and you're
in charge. So what So what you're saying is is
that they can retroactively go back to what they can retroact,
go back to signing bonus. They always can get signing
bonus money. They his base salary this year is ten million.
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That's guaranteed. They can't touch you. Okay, thank you, sir,
thank you, thank you. The guarantee money moving forward, they
can absolutely not give him flex? What's your take up?
And if you're if you're the a D at USC,
what are you looking to do? Who are you calling? Um?
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And And that guy would be let right, isn't he's
an athletic director at USC. No, No, he stepped he
stepped down. But they got they got rid of me.
You know. Uh, right off the top of my head.
I like tem Martin for that position. I really do,
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even though he's down in Baltimore, right And that's why
I receiver coach downe there with John Harball. But I
don't see the reason why he was let go. I mean,
we know the situation that happened with Steve. Steve Sarkis,
Steve Sarkasian, whatever his last name is. He is now
the head football coach of the University of Texas. I
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thought that Tem Martin was going to be the next
guy in line to assume that position. But T Martin
had one of the top ten offenses in all the
college football while he was offensive coordinator down there. So
if I'm looking to get that program back on track,
you know I'm gonna call t Markin. Okay, I think
the problem I think the problem with with T Martin.
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Is this when you're USC, and let's just call it
what it is is Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, USC,
and I would put SC in front of all those
teams as far as the the job besides Alabama and
probably Ohio State. You hired T Martin and not saying
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it's a bad hire, It just he hasn't done enough.
He's never been a head coach. They're not gonna hire
a guy that's never been a head coaching, right, And
this is but when you're talking USC, they're not gonna
He's not gonna be the first. That's the proverse time
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head coach. That is a problem is we had this
conversation last week with HBCUs but we know that case. Wait,
we gotta start thinking outside the box and give people
opportunities that deserved them. But when you're USC, can you
really afford to do that? You can't. They can't Mike
Mike Bone. I believe that's how you pronounce his last
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name is the athletic director. He can't mess this up.
And if he hires T Martin, everybody would say why
would you hire T Martin? If he does well, it's
a great hire. If he doesn't do well. We told you,
why would you hear him his first head coaching job.
You should have never done this. You gotta swing for
the fences. If your USC, you gotta go. Who are
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you gonna go? Get every top coach in college football?
You try to see if they're interested, all the top coaches.
Lincoln Riley. I doubt if he would leave Oklahoma, but
you see, at least you just give him a call.
I mean you can. There's so many people that you
can look at your when you're USC and you call,
everybody's gonna pick up the phone and listen. They're gonna
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listen whether they come or not. I don't believe urban
Meyer can leave Jacksonville after one year. It's just his reputation.
You know, they're they're doing a lot to keep them,
to please them and to keep them happy. They've done
a lot. If he's if he's looking at it like
this is my last stop, SC then you take that job.
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But if you want to continue coaching, I'm not so sure.
But we're gonna take a break. I need you to
sit here and think about this. Plex. We need to
talk to Ilo. He gonna tell us what's trending I'll
tell you what pretty crazy what's going on right now
in the college football scoreboard, and I think at least
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one of you is going to find a lot of
interest in it. Let's put it that way. Number three
Oklahoma as a seven to three halftime lead over Nebraska.
Seventh rank Texas A and M a wenty four to
nothing halftime lead over New Mexico. Now here's where it
gets really interesting. Eighth rank Cincinnati losing it Indiana fourteen
to nothing, three minutes and thirty one seconds left to
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play in the second quarter. Fifteen ranked Virginia Tech losing
at West Virginia twenty four to seven with one minute
and twenty nine seconds left to play in the second quarter.
A big first half by the Mountaineers. Here's Tony Crier
on w w MM on first and ten. Looks like
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Tech jumped outside, Steggie drops Deeggie throws down the left side,
and he's got a man in that pass. Let's caught
in the end zone. Price board where you caught it
on the near side. Philon touchdown West Virginia again. They're
up twenty four to seven over fifty rank Virginia Tech
late in the second quarter. Sixteenth rank Coastal Carolina and
Buffalo tied at fourteen at halftime. And let's see what
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other games are going on right now? How about this one?
Number twenty four Miami with two ten left in the
second quarter, has just fallen behind Michigan State ten to seven.
Michigan State just scoring a touchdown. Fellas, let's hear how
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they did it here Michigan State touchdown from moments ago
a little time watched the Burishes out there? Give it
to him? Was that Keith Jackson on a call? I
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know you're new to the radio game, but did you
did you hack? Did you hack into our audio system
and replace the Michigan State touchdown? All right, let me
tell you something, man, Oh what a night it was
that was against Notre Dame. Uh. Here is the actual
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Michigan State highlight from today for people who still have
their college eligibility. Dennis Walker fast shotgun Stafford throws right
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great George Blaha with the call. He was the voice
of the Spartans when you were there. Plex tens Michigan
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State leading in Miami one thirty five left in the
second quarter, number twenty five, Michigan a halftime lead over
Northern Illinois of thirty five to three, and in a
related story, are I T Department now changing all the
passwords on our audio system? Back to you guys, yea, yeah,
he's back. He's back. I mean, he's just got a
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bunch of bad news. That's not bad news for me. Back,
it's not bad news for me. I mean it's bad
news for your point. It's bad news for my theory exactly.
It is bad news. And I talked to It wasn't
a theory, LeVar. It was a hypothesis. Yeah, I mean,
it wasn't a theory. It was. It wasn't it was.
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There was a theory. We got FALSI visions in space,
same thing. Dang, it was no Michigan State would have
pick kind of cold bloody. Oh every might have been
right about today. He wanted none of that had cold bloody.
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Hey man, it was wrong, man, It's okay. It happens
to the best of us. Man, all right, well, yeah,
I was Seemingly I was wrong. Apparently you gotta pay
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don't know what chapter it is, but my name is
in every contract chapter one, two, three, or five. Hey,
let me ask you this because you you brought it up.
Did you have to like, what was the repercussions to
your situation? What repercussions to me was UH had signed
a five year, thirty five million dollar extension and the
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I was set to make twenty one million dollars guaranteed
in my first three years. My whole, my whole situation
happened with the firearm and they didn't want to pay me,
and it was it was I was on n f I.
It was a non football injury, and we went to
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court with him arbitration the whole deal. But being that
I was old, the other fourteen million after the first year,
they had to cut me and check for fourteen million dollars.
So they had to pay you. They had to pay
me because it was it was guaranteed money. But there
was nothing in the contract prior to what happened to
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me that you didn't have to play pay a player
and guaranteed money. If so, that's why it happened. So
that's why your name is in every contract basically exactly.
They want to avoid that from ever happening again, right, like,
how did we not play? Weren't happy with Yeah, they
weren't happened. They weren't happy with writing me before check
(32:26):
because what happened to me? But it was guaranteed money.
So I knew right then it wasn't a theory by
you absolutely wrong. Well that's cheating. You cheated, it's notating.
I just knew. I felt like my theory, my conspiracy theory,
was on point, and you were playing with with house rules,
(32:48):
like like I am in the but there you go.
You know, the sticks is out and and raring and
all that stuff. You're whiten out to night a bird.
That is true, and you come on here, you don't
have anybody, nothing, you don't ask questions. Comes it comes
when it comes with yeah, I got this. I might
(33:13):
be a civilian, but I'm going it out of space.
You don't know. All right, that's fair. Let me take
my space. Can that help it off? Let me come
back down, Let me come back down. I did have
an interesting evening last night, I mean, maybe that's what
it was. I got. I got hangover feelings. I mean
I don't know. I gotta try to escape this. Uh okay, hey,
(33:37):
but I will say this. We are going down to
the Penn State game to how much you and Joey
Porter and is that right? Yeah? We can go onto
the game. And I was gonna come to bro listen,
but I will be wearing Michigan State. I would not
put on I think that's I think it's very interesting
that like you wanted them to do times like you,
(33:57):
you're the Dallas fan that lives in the from place
and goes to a game that has nothing to do.
I get it. I understand. I told her, I said, listen,
we'll go to the game. We'll have fun. We want
to watch Joejoe Young Jojoe Porter play. Corner is just
not gonna happen. So you can't even do it TV
(34:20):
and I got let me lie shirt. Well, just make
sure it's just make sure blood blood, it's thicker than water. DOC.
So you're representing Joey Porter, You're representing I'm going to
see the junior, right, so put on his number. I'm
not I can't. I sure hope that I end up
seeing a post of you with with Penn State Joey
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Just don't take James Franklin. I know I missed the
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James Franklin. Go go get somebody else. Yeah, stay away
from our boy, you know what I mean, Because we
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go ahead, y'all stay away from the homie. Uh, all right,
we'll be right back. We'll we'll be back to wrap
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up the show. Show goes so quickly. But you know what,
I have been wrong. I've been known to be wrong,
and and then this show well, and that's you know what,
Seemingly I have been wrong quite a bit. Working with
you guys, it just shows how smart y'all ve. Well,
that's why I just asked the questions and let you
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We're gonna call the winners out today. What you got on?
We've got the seven hottest games of the weekend, UH
seven up on game if you will down or down
(40:35):
on game? So Raiders at Steelers, the Steelers our favorite
here minus six and a half over under forty six
and a half, LaVar, give us your pick. Tell us
if you're up or down on game on that tour.
I think the Steelers win the game. I'm down. I'm
down on game on on the total, I think it'll
be less than forty six points. I'm going with the
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Steelers and I'm taking the over. M I'm gonna yeah,
still as well win the game six and a half.
I'll take the spread and the over. Al right. Next up,
we got Rams at Colts. Rams are favored minus three
and a half over under forty eight and a half.
I'm gonna take the over, and I believe the Rams
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are going to be the reason why it's the over,
and I believe the Rams are gonna win. This is
a tough game they're playing on the road. The Coats
don't want to start going two tough game here, But
I'm taking the rounds and I'm going under. Oh, I'm
taking the Ram spread and money line and I'm going
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under forty eight and a half. Alright, Bills at Dolphins
Bills minus three and a half here over under forty
seven and a half. Yeah, I think this is gonna
be an under. This is gonna be an under. And
and interestingly enough, I believe that. Well now I'm not
gonna do it. The Bills are gonna win this game.
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The Bills will not start owing to They'll win the game.
And I'm going over Bills a win by fourteen. I'm
taking over. H it's up on game We're down on
game forty Niners at Eagles forty Niners minus three here
up or down on game over under forty nine and
a half lbarn m. Yeah, I'm gonna go on the
(42:23):
under on that forty nine. I'm gonna take the under
on that. And well, of course I'm taking the forty
Niners in this one. You know, the Niners, they stayed
on the East Coast again, and when they do that,
they have always covered. But Jason Varett's hurt. They got
these injuries, and the better, I want to say the Eagles,
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but the way the Niners came out, I think the
Eagles played a good game last week. But I'm going
with the Niners and I'm going over because I see
him getting the lead and letting the Eagles battleback how
the Lions did last week. I'm going with Jalen Hurst
is the real deal. I'm going under under three and
I'm taking the over. Who's winning fold and nine and
(43:07):
a half said the Eagles. Yeah, I'm definitely taking the Eagle.
Jayalen Hurst is the real deal, Okay? Alright? That Cowboys
at Chargers Chargers favorite minus three and a half over
under fifty four and a half. Not the The Cowboys
are gonna win this game, and I'm going to take
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the over on this one. The Chargers will win. I
was Cowboys all week until DeMarcus Lawrence broke his foot
and Randy Gett Gregory will not play two best defensive linemens.
So I'm going Chargers and I'm going over as well.
I'm hey, I'm going Charges, and I believe that Dallas
(43:50):
Cowboys will star only two. So I'm taking the Charges
and I'm taking the under on fifty four and a half. Alright.
Two more here, Titans at Seahawks EA Hawks favorite minus
six and a half over under fifty four and a half. Yeah,
I'm taking uh, I'm taking the over on the fifty four.
I'm taking I'm not They'll beat the spread. They'll beat
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the spread, so I'm taking the I'm taking the Seahawks.
I'll take the Seahawks. Plan in the Pacific Northwest is
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will get behind early so they can't run the football,
So I'm taking the over on the points fifty four
and a half. Last one here, Chiefs at Ravens Chiefs
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favorite minus three and a half over under fifty four
and a half. I'm taking the over. I'm taking the points.
I'm taking the Chiefs. Man, Ravens, they the Chiefs. I'm
taking the Ravens to lose the game, but cover the
Chiefs having covered in a long time. Over, I'm taking
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This is up on Game with Lavarrei, tent t J
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Welcome an hour two that stretched armstrong Plexico version. You
got hair man himself, the hair hero, the hair slayer,
uh t J. Hushman Zada and I'm LaVar Arrington, I'm
(02:34):
just the guy that carries the waters and make sure
that they're good to go. Uh, all right, guys, as promised,
we're we're gonna have this conversation. We've been talking quarterbacks.
Quarterbacks have been the largest, far and away the largest
conversation of this year's season for the National Football League,
which means business is great for the National Football League
(02:59):
because it's a lee, a quarterback driven league. DeShawn Watson
still in limbo as to what's gonna take place with
his future. I had a theory, and I want to
toss this theory out at you guys. Um, just based
upon looking and continuing to see how this thing is evolving. Um,
(03:19):
I came up with a theory and and so here
it is. Okay, right now you have Tyrod Taylor being
named the starter. Foreseeably, Deshaun Watson will never play another
down for the Houston Texans. But you you're not getting
the value. No one is offering you the value. There
are still teams hot on the trail of trying to
(03:41):
acquire him in a trade, but no one is coming
close to offering what the Houston Texans would want in
exchange for allowing him to go and I start thinking
to myself, you would want to get rid of a
liability as large as the situation is that has developed
with him, um thus far. And so you ask yourself,
(04:04):
why wouldn't you just let them go and figure out,
you know, contingencies of what takes place in the trade,
even if you don't get full value, because obviously this
could hurt you if something comes back that's bad. Then
I started thinking, hunt if something comes back bad. And
then I was like, oh, my lightbulb went off. I
(04:25):
started thinking to myself, you're going to want exactly everything
you want from a trade from Deshaun Watson. If I'm
a billion dollar company or even close to being valued
out of billion dollar company, you gotta believe you're you're
using resources to make sure you're protecting your your company.
(04:46):
And you probably have somebody who was doing deep dives
into the Deshaun Watson situation. Now you have prosecutors in
Houston that have begun a grand jury investing gation, a
grand jury investigation. Now to me, I don't know that
you need a conviction on somebody to go after them.
(05:10):
I don't know what the limitations are, what the rules, rules,
and protocols are on being able to actually go after
a player for a conduct or whatever clause is may
define this detrimental to the organization. But I started wondering
to myself, are they so you're not gonna put him
on the field, You're not going to address him, he's
(05:32):
not gonna practice. Why you don't want them to get injured?
And then it's like, Okay, you don't want them to
get injured because you want them to have trade value.
But then I start thinking to myself, man, you don't
want them to get injured because you don't want to
deal with the liability of him getting injured. Then I
started thinking to myself, Okay, well where is he gonna be?
Is he gonna be on the sideline Dota dot? Isn't
(05:52):
that we don't care? We don't care where you're gonna be.
But then it's like, okay, well, why wouldn't you care
where he's going to be. Here's what I came up with.
You're holding on to Deshaun Watson the way that you
are knowing that this isn't gonna play out before the
trade dead line takes place with his legal situation. When
you look at the the shan legal situation. You got
(06:14):
twenty two lawsuits, but the ones that truly matter because
you can get you could get out of the way
of of of a lawsuit that is is is civil.
If it's about the money, you could get through that.
You could get around that. You could you can figure
out ways around that. But there are ten criminal complaints
(06:35):
that are against him, according to multiple sources from from
the reports. So you gotta clear ten. Ten. You gotta
clear ten like one one is is stressful, but you
gotta do it nine more times to get through this
and and be able to play and and not get
(06:56):
in trouble by the league, not not be in any situations.
Is it beyond the realm of possibility to think that
they are sitting here and they're saying, if you don't
give us the value that we want for Deshaun Watson,
we're just going to hold him because the moment one
of these ten complaints sticks, we're going to get that
money retroactively back from Deshaun Watson. And that's why you
(07:20):
can't play them. You can fight that is justified. If
you do play them, you don't play them, you don't
practice them, you don't get them hurt. There's no connection
other than if you want to trade for him, this
is what we want for him. If not, we're just
gonna hold onto him, and if something hits, we're going
to be able to get our money back. And I
(07:40):
feel like that has to be the thinking of this organization. Well,
you guys think this is what I'll say is the
criminal cases. These things take so long. This can go
on forever. But my my opinion on Deshaun Watson is this.
The Houston Texans owe him ten million dollars this year.
(08:02):
They're in no Russian They're willing to eat ten millions.
They want six players and or picks, a combination of that.
You're not getting that. I don't. I'm not giving that
up for one player because that one player now is
going to come to a team that we gave up
so much. We don't have enough around him. Next year,
you know what this base salary is thirty five million,
(08:25):
he will be moved. The Houston Texans will not pay
Deshaun Watson thirty five million dollars to being active every week.
They'll eat this ten million. They won't eat thirty five million.
And so because of that, there's no urgency this year
because it's base salary is ten million dollars. But you're
(08:46):
giving him ten million dollars for nothing, literally for nothing.
I can't I can't agree with. It's just we're gonna
eat this to These dudes are worth billions of dollars.
That's literally less than that's why, that's why they're worth billions.
Though they're gonna fight for. They're gonna fight for and
they're fighting to see if they can get picks guarantee
(09:07):
thirty five million. They're not giving this man million. But
if you're not going to get the picks, what else
are you looking for? Why? Why are they keeping them
off the field? Why is he not playing? They don't
want him around that if you play them, if they
want him around, you have a theory. But I'm gonna
asking you a question, right why do you think he
is not the starting quarterback for this team right now?
(09:29):
Because if you start him, then you justified the pay.
You can't go back and get like if he if
he rendered the service, if you did the work, then
then you can you can fight and say, listen, okay,
I understand that you're gonna take this money from me
moving forward, So you can't you can't do with money, absolutely, no,
(09:50):
tell me what you think it is. It's always about money.
Plex they're not putting them on the football field because
what's going on outside of football has nothing to do
with money. He hasn't been convicted of anything. He hasn't
he hasn't formally. I just told you what. My Watson
is not playing football right now because what's going on
(10:11):
the court. They're not going to put him on the
football field and until everything is settled. But he's still cleared. Hey,
nobody's going to trade for him before the deadline, but
they want to. They're not what they want. No, nobody's
giving up what the Texas you're not giving up? Why
are you? Why are you asking for that much? Because
(10:33):
you don't know what's gonna go on with the criminal
cases that you're not giving somebody might give it to him, yes,
but if you're not going to give us what we want,
we're going to keep. We're gonna hold on to right
because holding because I'm paying you ten million when it
comes thirty five million, I can't hold on any longer.
Just in case everything gets dismissed. I'm gonna take the
(10:56):
high road on this, Okay, take the high road just
in case everything gets dismissed. Then you eat the ted
the song. Watson will be under set. He'll be playing quarterback.
They are not going to play him until this investigation
is over. I don't agree with that. To do with money.
It has everything. He's not man. Listen here, he's not playing,
(11:19):
not playing. This is what this is. If he's not
going to ever play for Houston Texas. If a team
was the trade for him, and they the league office
knew Deshaun Watson was gonna play, they wouldn't allow it.
They were not They were not allowed. But why not
(11:41):
see if you can play him? If the Texas has
talked to the league office, we're not going to play him, Okay,
we don't have to do anything with him. We can
keep and they put him on the field. They're gonna
the moment they say Deshaun Watson will be starting Sunday,
spend him. They will stay And why would they suspend
(12:01):
him just because of the allegation. That's correct, that's correct.
So it has everything to do with money. Now it
comes back to the original point. If Deshaun Watson was
able to play, like he clears, he correct, he is
able to play correct, but they don't. He doesn't want
to be in Houston. I don't think at this point
(12:22):
they want him in Houston. So it's not about him
being able to play for Houston. It's about them being
able to offset how large of a contract nut that
is for them to crack like she's already there. Watson
told them that he like Houston. You don't think they
would let him play. I think if Deshaun Watson had
to change the heart, of course they could. They could
(12:43):
figure it out. Figure it out, Okay, change the heart.
Everything that's going on right now. You may want to
play football, I don't. I don't want to. If the
Houston Texas den you starting more, you think he wouldn't
go out there play, I don't want to. I don't
want to presume what what the and it's thinking? I
would say it fundamentally. Moment to Houston, Texas announced that
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Deshaun Wasson is thought in quarterback Roger Goodell is going
to suspend him. Okay, but if he's for it, But okay,
but now that opens up another can of worms because
if he suspends him or puts him on the commissioner's
exemple list and says he's not permitted to play. Then
now you have to say, what made this moment in
time different from any other moment leading up to this moment.
(13:27):
Why did you decide to make that decision now based
upon him being pay is Houston Texas is a communication
with the league and Roger Goodell and telling them they
are not going to play. Yeah, but I think that
creates a liability situation for the league, and it also
and and it also creates well it also would create
(13:47):
a liability for the Texans as well, because that would
give ammunition to Deshaun Watson and the NFL p A
to take action against them. I just don't I don't
fully buy that. That's while I will agree with what
y'a are saying logically speaking, I still look at it
from the standpoint of if you do anything to justify
(14:09):
him getting his money right now, you have no opportunity,
no chance of retroactively going to get it. And if
this turns out that he ends up getting like if
I'm paying him all the way up until this goes
to a grand jury and they're going to indict him,
and this is going to become a case at which
point in time, I would assume they will. This money
(14:30):
is guaranteed. They can't go back, Yes they can, t J.
They he's on the roster. You cannot go take money
from somebody that they earned on the roster because you can't.
You can't where I don't care you're telling me you
can't retroactively from the time this stuff is hit on
the roster. He's not on a suspended list. He's not
(14:52):
on the list to where they've But you're gonna be
able to prepare that in a case, t J. You're
going to be able to prepare that in the case
and say that this is why we are going after
this money this situation because he has not been suspended. Technically,
he's on the roster. TJ. My name is in every
player's NFL contract for what happened to me. Trust me.
(15:19):
They can take his guaranteed money thank you. No no, no, no,
not that's already been paid. If if he gets money,
that's all, let him go. Hold on, hold on. If
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Welcome back, Welcome back to the show. I'm gonna call
you back. I got I got my man and Aging
extraordinaire on the phone. He was trying to coaxing plaxing.
I'm not trying to coerce him out. Hold clary on
this excuse us. He wants to prove himself right. He's
(19:16):
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(19:38):
is trying to do is he wants to prove me
and plax wrong so bad this whole break, he's his phone,
He's been calling everybody, ring, called like ten people. Nobody answered.
He finally got somebody on the phone and the guy
was like, no, no, no, they can't go back now
retroactively signing bonus money. We know that they can recover
(20:01):
that the base guarantees, which his salary this year is
ten point five million, that's guaranteed. We're speaking to Shaun Watson.
You can't go back and touch that money. You can
avoid the future guarantees and base salary, but you can't
go back and get that money. But once again, for
(20:21):
those that listen on a regular basis, me and Plexicle
are right. Once again, we just look like this, plex
you know what I mean. Hey, they don't call you
baby face genius for no reason. So we we we
will once once LaVar Um figures out he's wrong, he's
gonna come in here and get back on and try
(20:44):
to act like he was right. But that's not going
to be that. That will not that will not be
the case. Um LaVar is back. He was wrong, he
was wrong, what we'll see, and I was definitely wrong.
So so my my theory has been blown. Can we
get that? Nitney Lion roar got you can do it?
(21:05):
Got way Yeah, yeah yeah, Mountain Lion a theory hypothesis.
You know whatever, Why why you don't believe us and
trust in us? Why? Like, why are you don't trust us?
You can't go back trust You can't retroactively go back
(21:26):
and get his his guaranteed money. That's what we're saying.
But why why don't you trust us? Because it doesn't
Now it doesn't make any sense to me as they
trust us, Jones, I don't understand the trust. I just don't.
I just don't like the way this sounds. I don't
like the way it feels to me. I don't know,
(21:47):
you had worse days. He's calling me back. Yeah, maybe
he's clearing it up for me, maybe something, Maybe there's
something here that he's going to clear up for me.
So y'all keep talking because I want to get more
clarity on this. Yeah, hold on, hold on. So when
when we we can get off of the Shaun Watson
(22:07):
until LaVar comes back and decides, Um, what is what?
What do you make of USC firing Clay Hilton after
the second game? Everybody saying Urban Mars, Aubert Mars should
take the job? Who would you hire and who would
you look to call even if they tell you no
(22:28):
for that head coaching job if you're USC and you're
in charge. So what So what you're saying is is
that they can retroactively go back to what they can retroact,
go back to signing bonus. They always can get signing
bonus money. They his base salary this year is ten million.
(22:49):
That's guaranteed. They can't touch you. Okay, thank you, sir,
thank you, thank you. The guarantee money moving forward, they
can absolutely not give him flex? What's your take up?
And if you're if you're the a D at USC,
what are you looking to do? Who are you calling? Um?
(23:12):
And And that guy would be let right, isn't he's
an athletic director at USC. No, No, he stepped he
stepped down. But they got they got rid of me.
You know. Uh, right off the top of my head.
I like tem Martin for that position. I really do,
(23:33):
even though he's down in Baltimore, right And that's why
I receiver coach downe there with John Harball. But I
don't see the reason why he was let go. I mean,
we know the situation that happened with Steve. Steve Sarkis,
Steve Sarkasian, whatever his last name is. He is now
the head football coach of the University of Texas. I
(23:54):
thought that Tem Martin was going to be the next
guy in line to assume that position. But T Martin
had one of the top ten offenses in all the
college football while he was offensive coordinator down there. So
if I'm looking to get that program back on track,
you know I'm gonna call t Markin. Okay, I think
the problem I think the problem with with T Martin.
(24:16):
Is this when you're USC, and let's just call it
what it is is Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, USC,
and I would put SC in front of all those
teams as far as the the job besides Alabama and
probably Ohio State. You hired T Martin and not saying
(24:40):
it's a bad hire, It just he hasn't done enough.
He's never been a head coach. They're not gonna hire
a guy that's never been a head coaching, right, And
this is but when you're talking USC, they're not gonna
He's not gonna be the first. That's the proverse time
(25:01):
head coach. That is a problem is we had this
conversation last week with HBCUs but we know that case. Wait,
we gotta start thinking outside the box and give people
opportunities that deserved them. But when you're USC, can you
really afford to do that? You can't. They can't Mike
Mike Bone. I believe that's how you pronounce his last
(25:22):
name is the athletic director. He can't mess this up.
And if he hires T Martin, everybody would say why
would you hire T Martin? If he does well, it's
a great hire. If he doesn't do well. We told you,
why would you hear him his first head coaching job.
You should have never done this. You gotta swing for
the fences. If your USC, you gotta go. Who are
(25:44):
you gonna go? Get every top coach in college football?
You try to see if they're interested, all the top coaches.
Lincoln Riley. I doubt if he would leave Oklahoma, but
you see, at least you just give him a call.
I mean you can. There's so many people that you
can look at your when you're USC and you call,
everybody's gonna pick up the phone and listen. They're gonna
(26:07):
listen whether they come or not. I don't believe urban
Meyer can leave Jacksonville after one year. It's just his reputation.
You know, they're they're doing a lot to keep them,
to please them and to keep them happy. They've done
a lot. If he's if he's looking at it like
this is my last stop, SC then you take that job.
(26:29):
But if you want to continue coaching, I'm not so sure.
But we're gonna take a break. I need you to
sit here and think about this. Plex. We need to
talk to Ilo. He gonna tell us what's trending I'll
tell you what pretty crazy what's going on right now
in the college football scoreboard, and I think at least
(26:50):
one of you is going to find a lot of
interest in it. Let's put it that way. Number three
Oklahoma as a seven to three halftime lead over Nebraska.
Seventh rank Texas A and M a wenty four to
nothing halftime lead over New Mexico. Now here's where it
gets really interesting. Eighth rank Cincinnati losing it Indiana fourteen
to nothing, three minutes and thirty one seconds left to
(27:13):
play in the second quarter. Fifteen ranked Virginia Tech losing
at West Virginia twenty four to seven with one minute
and twenty nine seconds left to play in the second quarter.
A big first half by the Mountaineers. Here's Tony Crier
on w w MM on first and ten. Looks like
(27:34):
Tech jumped outside, Steggie drops Deeggie throws down the left side,
and he's got a man in that pass. Let's caught
in the end zone. Price board where you caught it
on the near side. Philon touchdown West Virginia again. They're
up twenty four to seven over fifty rank Virginia Tech
late in the second quarter. Sixteenth rank Coastal Carolina and
Buffalo tied at fourteen at halftime. And let's see what
(28:00):
other games are going on right now? How about this one?
Number twenty four Miami with two ten left in the
second quarter, has just fallen behind Michigan State ten to seven.
Michigan State just scoring a touchdown. Fellas, let's hear how
(28:20):
they did it here Michigan State touchdown from moments ago
a little time watched the Burishes out there? Give it
to him? Was that Keith Jackson on a call? I
(28:42):
know you're new to the radio game, but did you
did you hack? Did you hack into our audio system
and replace the Michigan State touchdown? All right, let me
tell you something, man, Oh what a night it was
that was against Notre Dame. Uh. Here is the actual
(29:03):
Michigan State highlight from today for people who still have
their college eligibility. Dennis Walker fast shotgun Stafford throws right
slap for Kenneth Walkers for the right highline to you,
great George Blaha with the call. He was the voice
of the Spartans when you were there. Plex tens Michigan
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State leading in Miami one thirty five left in the
second quarter, number twenty five, Michigan a halftime lead over
Northern Illinois of thirty five to three, and in a
related story, are I T Department now changing all the
passwords on our audio system? Back to you guys, yea, yeah,
he's back. He's back. I mean, he's just got a
(29:48):
bunch of bad news. That's not bad news for me. Back,
it's not bad news for me. I mean it's bad
news for your point. It's bad news for my theory exactly.
It is bad news. And I talked to It wasn't
a theory, LeVar. It was a hypothesis. Yeah, I mean,
it wasn't a theory. It was. It wasn't it was.
(30:09):
There was a theory. We got FALSI visions in space,
same thing. Dang, it was no Michigan State would have
pick kind of cold bloody. Oh every might have been
right about today. He wanted none of that had cold bloody.
(30:32):
Hey man, it was wrong, man, It's okay. It happens
to the best of us. Man, all right, well, yeah,
I was Seemingly I was wrong. Apparently you gotta pay
attention to the language in chapter five and and that
that will tell the story. Languages contract. My name is
in every players NFL cos that chapter five A. I
(30:54):
don't know what chapter it is, but my name is
in every contract chapter one, two, three, or five. Hey,
let me ask you this because you you brought it up.
Did you have to like, what was the repercussions to
your situation? What repercussions to me was UH had signed
a five year, thirty five million dollar extension and the
(31:18):
I was set to make twenty one million dollars guaranteed
in my first three years. My whole, my whole situation
happened with the firearm and they didn't want to pay me,
and it was it was I was on n f I.
It was a non football injury, and we went to
(31:40):
court with him arbitration the whole deal. But being that
I was old, the other fourteen million after the first year,
they had to cut me and check for fourteen million dollars.
So they had to pay you. They had to pay
me because it was it was guaranteed money. But there
was nothing in the contract prior to what happened to
(32:01):
me that you didn't have to play pay a player
and guaranteed money. If so, that's why it happened. So
that's why your name is in every contract basically exactly.
They want to avoid that from ever happening again, right, like,
how did we not play? Weren't happy with Yeah, they
weren't happened. They weren't happy with writing me before check
(32:26):
because what happened to me? But it was guaranteed money.
So I knew right then it wasn't a theory by
you absolutely wrong. Well that's cheating. You cheated, it's notating.
I just knew. I felt like my theory, my conspiracy theory,
was on point, and you were playing with with house rules,
(32:48):
like like I am in the but there you go.
You know, the sticks is out and and raring and
all that stuff. You're whiten out to night a bird.
That is true, and you come on here, you don't
have anybody, nothing, you don't ask questions. Comes it comes
when it comes with yeah, I got this. I might
(33:13):
be a civilian, but I'm going it out of space.
You don't know. All right, that's fair. Let me take
my space. Can that help it off? Let me come
back down, Let me come back down. I did have
an interesting evening last night, I mean, maybe that's what
it was. I got. I got hangover feelings. I mean
I don't know. I gotta try to escape this. Uh okay, hey,
(33:37):
but I will say this. We are going down to
the Penn State game to how much you and Joey
Porter and is that right? Yeah? We can go onto
the game. And I was gonna come to bro listen,
but I will be wearing Michigan State. I would not
put on I think that's I think it's very interesting
that like you wanted them to do times like you,
(33:57):
you're the Dallas fan that lives in the from place
and goes to a game that has nothing to do.
I get it. I understand. I told her, I said, listen,
we'll go to the game. We'll have fun. We want
to watch Joejoe Young Jojoe Porter play. Corner is just
not gonna happen. So you can't even do it TV
(34:20):
and I got let me lie shirt. Well, just make
sure it's just make sure blood blood, it's thicker than water. DOC.
So you're representing Joey Porter, You're representing I'm going to
see the junior, right, so put on his number. I'm
not I can't. I sure hope that I end up
seeing a post of you with with Penn State Joey
(34:42):
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Just don't take James Franklin. I know I missed the
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we'll be right back. We'll we'll be back to wrap
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up the show. Show goes so quickly. But you know what,
I have been wrong. I've been known to be wrong,
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Seemingly I have been wrong quite a bit. Working with
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it out. Let's do it not for some kicks. Are
you up on games? And let's break this shop. Let's
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back it up down on game. All right, let's go
what you got Ryan? We won last week? We don't
know we got we gotta starting the winners we got least,
We're gonna call the winners out today. What you got on?
We've got the seven hottest games of the weekend, UH
seven up on game if you will down or down
(40:35):
on game? So Raiders at Steelers, the Steelers our favorite
here minus six and a half over under forty six
and a half, LaVar, give us your pick. Tell us
if you're up or down on game on that tour.
I think the Steelers win the game. I'm down. I'm
down on game on on the total, I think it'll
be less than forty six points. I'm going with the
(40:55):
Steelers and I'm taking the over. M I'm gonna yeah,
still as well win the game six and a half.
I'll take the spread and the over. Al right. Next up,
we got Rams at Colts. Rams are favored minus three
and a half over under forty eight and a half.
I'm gonna take the over, and I believe the Rams
(41:18):
are going to be the reason why it's the over,
and I believe the Rams are gonna win. This is
a tough game they're playing on the road. The Coats
don't want to start going two tough game here, But
I'm taking the rounds and I'm going under. Oh, I'm
taking the Ram spread and money line and I'm going
(41:39):
under forty eight and a half. Alright, Bills at Dolphins
Bills minus three and a half here over under forty
seven and a half. Yeah, I think this is gonna
be an under. This is gonna be an under. And
and interestingly enough, I believe that. Well now I'm not
gonna do it. The Bills are gonna win this game.
(42:00):
The Bills will not start owing to They'll win the game.
And I'm going over Bills a win by fourteen. I'm
taking over. H it's up on game We're down on
game forty Niners at Eagles forty Niners minus three here
up or down on game over under forty nine and
a half lbarn m. Yeah, I'm gonna go on the
(42:23):
under on that forty nine. I'm gonna take the under
on that. And well, of course I'm taking the forty
Niners in this one. You know, the Niners, they stayed
on the East Coast again, and when they do that,
they have always covered. But Jason Varett's hurt. They got
these injuries, and the better, I want to say the Eagles,
(42:46):
but the way the Niners came out, I think the
Eagles played a good game last week. But I'm going
with the Niners and I'm going over because I see
him getting the lead and letting the Eagles battleback how
the Lions did last week. I'm going with Jalen Hurst
is the real deal. I'm going under under three and
I'm taking the over. Who's winning fold and nine and
(43:07):
a half said the Eagles. Yeah, I'm definitely taking the Eagle.
Jayalen Hurst is the real deal, Okay? Alright? That Cowboys
at Chargers Chargers favorite minus three and a half over
under fifty four and a half. Not the The Cowboys
are gonna win this game, and I'm going to take
(43:29):
the over on this one. The Chargers will win. I
was Cowboys all week until DeMarcus Lawrence broke his foot
and Randy Gett Gregory will not play two best defensive linemens.
So I'm going Chargers and I'm going over as well.
I'm hey, I'm going Charges, and I believe that Dallas
(43:50):
Cowboys will star only two. So I'm taking the Charges
and I'm taking the under on fifty four and a half. Alright.
Two more here, Titans at Seahawks EA Hawks favorite minus
six and a half over under fifty four and a half. Yeah,
I'm taking uh, I'm taking the over on the fifty four.
I'm taking I'm not They'll beat the spread. They'll beat
(44:13):
the spread, so I'm taking the I'm taking the Seahawks.
I'll take the Seahawks. Plan in the Pacific Northwest is
not easy, but I'm gonna go under. M hmm. I'm
taking the spread Seahawks six and a half. The Titans
will get behind early so they can't run the football,
So I'm taking the over on the points fifty four
and a half. Last one here, Chiefs at Ravens Chiefs
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favorite minus three and a half over under fifty four
and a half. I'm taking the over. I'm taking the points.
I'm taking the Chiefs. Man, Ravens, they the Chiefs. I'm
taking the Ravens to lose the game, but cover the
Chiefs having covered in a long time. Over, I'm taking
the Chiefs all the way around the horn. And last,
(44:57):
but not least, I want to sell you Laval your
brother short. Yeah yeah, it shouts out to you, be
short man. We love you, bro. Hope it all works out, man.
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