October 30, 2021 • 48 mins
LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress discuss the importance of young player's learning from veterans, as LaVar chats with Former NFL LB Andra Davis in this edition of A Legendary Moment. Did a Deshaun Watson-Christian McCaffrey trade ever make sense? The guys pick the biggest games of the week in this edition of Up On Game or Down On Game. Plus, the guys catch up with Joy Taylor!
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it up with us. If you're just tuning in now,
welcome into the show. Hope you are enjoying your Saturday
of college football sports. There's some great games going on.
I see that two lane has jumped up on Cincinnati.
Uh Iowa, Sam's Wisconsin. Oh, I mean I was Sam
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it's it's getting nuggly. Uh And in Michigan, Michigan State,
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Baylor playing, So a lot of good stuff going on
right now. I'm able to see it. I'm able to
enjoy it. I think you guys are as well. I mean,
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we're gonna start some selfie uh Instagram some so yeah,
we ain't just talking. We are really truly aging like
fine wine. I mean, you would never know that we
are speaking of aging the right way. Let's let's jump
into Andre Davis. This is an amazing young man and
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we had a great conversation. Here we go. Conversations a
legendary moment, presents conversations would a legtion and now this
is your legendary moment. So you ended up playing your
your your college ball at Florida. You were or the
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Gator and then it was a golden error for linebackers
at that school. I mean from Spikes to to rut
to might might I mean, y'all was deep every year.
Every year y'all was and and you are part of
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that that that elite group of backers. Just tell me,
let's let's start right there. What was that like? Carrying
on because you came after them? You were you were
with them, but you came after So what was that like?
And not time frame winning winning championships, um, being as
good as y'all were, and you being the main guy
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on that defense when you got up in there. Just
just talk a little bit a bit about that, you know,
it was it was very humbling, you know when because
when you get to college you think, like I know,
in Florida, everybody was like you know, we're gonna do
three years and we out three years and going to the
the league. But when you go to a school like
that and you playing behind you know, uh, future first rounders,
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it's kind of like you got to wait your turn. Uh.
And I was fortunate enough to have you know, Mike Peterson, uh,
Jay Rutt, the boys, Vaughn you know, and they they
kind of they motored us and they gave us the game.
You know, they showed us what it was like to
to compete and play at a high level at all times.
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One thing about playing at Florida, all practices were so tough,
uh not physically wise, but like competitionalized that when we
played on Sunday, I mean Saturdays, you know, the games
were a lot easier because you're practicing gets the best
players pretty much every day. You know, you got when
you gotta Fred Taylor running back. If you're going to
get this dude every day, the best, he's the best
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to do it. In my book, yeah, best to do it.
He doesn't get the credit that he definitely that you deserved.
Like but overall, I definitely, you know, I don't want
to be biased, but I am a little bit you know,
being from Florida, but like you know, between him and
LT like those are my two favorites. Yeah, man, Uh,
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not to get off of talking about linebackers, but oh
my gosh, Fred Taylor. Uh, I don't know why he's
not in the Hall of Fame yet. I'll continue to
ring that bell. I know that's one of your your
closest friends, plex, I'll continue to sound off on the
horn that uh until Fred Taylor gets into the National
Football Hall of Fame. I still put Asterix every single
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time they bring a class in. Not to say that
the guys that get in don't deserve it, but how
is Fred Taylor still not in the National Football League
Hall of Fame? Um? We could start there with that.
But you know one thing that coming out of that
legendary moment that I wanted to throw out at you guys.
It's interesting we talked about earlier in the show, how
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it's when you're building something great, it doesn't always happen immediately.
It doesn't always happen right away. You leave high school.
The first thing you're thinking when you're getting recruited is
I'm going to a school where I can play immediately.
I don't want to go somewhere where I'm gonna have
to sit and wait. I want to play immediately. I
think it's the wrong I think they're in a lot
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of ways being competitive. It's a great approach, it's a
great idea, but I also think it's misled. I think
that when you're talking about being as great as you
can possibly be and being the best you you can
possibly be, there are so many moving parts that change.
The game remains the same, but there are so many
other elements. There's so many other parts. The way you prepare,
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the way your classes are set up, you're you're scheduling
every there are so many things that can take take
you away from being the best that you can be.
Early on in college that to hear Andre say, listen,
we got in there, but we we wanted to get
out of there in three years. But you had to
look at the fact that you might have to sit
and watch for a year, maybe even two years, before
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you get your opportunity to start. I think there's some
there's something amazing about the idea of learning from somebody.
I don't care if they're all American or they're a
big name that's in front of you. If they know
what they're doing. If they understand how to study film it,
they know how to take notes different things that you
need to learn, tendencies to look for coming into the game,
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and they can give you that that experience as third year,
fourth year, fifth year guys at the at that level,
there's something to be said about that, fellas, did y'all
what was y'all's uh experience? And and and how how
do you guys you know, look at it. I mean
for me, I came out of junior college obviously, and
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so it's gonna be a little different. You know, when
you when you come out of jew call, you're expected
to come in and contribute right away, as opposed to
coming out of college. It's when you go to the
type of schools that you guys attended, regardless of what
type of recruiting, how good you are. For the most part,
them dudes are gonna betting you. The college athletes are
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just mature and we all want to play. But if
you have to sit and learn, hopefully that's what you're doing.
You're sitting and learning, not just sitting. Yeah, I mean,
because you powder if you want to, and you're gonna
be on the bench longer so you sit and learn
from a physical perspective, but it's more so mentally how
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to game. It's played how why did? Why are they
doing this? Why are they doing that? Ah, this is
how I counter that because so everybody's good. The better
players are better from the shoulders up. And so when
you go to the type of schools you guys went to, Uh,
guys can play physically, but they can really play mentally. Man,
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Iron sharpers iron Man. You know when you make your
decision to go to college, My decision was based on no, no,
how do I feel I want to fill at home
when I'm at school. For me, competing I was the
number one where I resly becoming out of out of
high school. So it was just one of those things
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where I want to go where I'm comfortable. But also,
just like with Dre was saying, Man, you're talking about
Lawrence Wright and Javan Curve, Johnny Rutledge, all these guys
that he got to learn from competition is the best competitor. Uh,
look at look at the career that Andrew Davis had.
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He was playing at Florida and basically in front of
three or four first round picks that that we're playing
in front of him. So so he learned how to
play the game. And and and what he just said
just explained it all. Listen. I knew when I went
to Florida that I wasn't going to be the starter,
and I had to watch and sit there. But that's
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the best teacher. And and and that's some of the
things that these young kids need to learn, is that
when you make a decision, don't just base it off
you know what, you know what, I want to go
here because I want to play right now. But that
but that's always a key. And I'm just I'm thinking
of thinking back to Andre rogers Son. He wasn't happy
with some of the planned time that he was getting
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the state, so he transferred. You know, you know, you're
not always going to be as good as you think
you are when you're coming out of hospital recruited. Now,
I have no I think you transferred like Western Kentucky
or something, just just to get on the feeling. Play
the trust the process, trust your trust the process. But
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you know what it is, though, guys, these days, though
it's easy to seven on seven. You get your buck kiss,
you get the high school, you get your buck kiss.
Growing up everybody is kissing your butt. So then when
you get to college and you have to compete, you
never really had to truly compete. M I mean compete
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that being good on the field, but you never truly
had to compete to get on the field. It's like
you're skipping a step, you know what I mean. Like
for me when I when I came out, I was
the number one Raid to recruit in the country, and
in most publications, I got Parade Player of the Year, Like, yeah,
I can't. I had so many I had so much
accolades coming out. There was that there was so many
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schools I could have went to and started immediately. I
I almost felt as though I negotiated that I was
going to start and I was going to play my
freshman year. I get up there and lo and behold
Aaron Collins. A C was supposed to leave. He was
supposed to leave. He's a fourth year senior. He's supposed
to leave and did not leave. He stayed. You in
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my position, bro, and I came up in that joint like, man,
look I'm bigger than you, I'm faster than you, I'm
more athletic than you. I was not a better player
than him, and and and when we started getting into
them practices and I heard the way the shoulder pad
sounded and the practices that we was in, I was like, well,
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I'm not in Kansas anymore. This this is not like
I am. I am not home anymore. I am somewhere
else because the way this car accident just sounded on
that field. And then they're like, all right, group group three,
Group three, And wait, wait that's my group. That's my
group that's going out there. You mean, I gotta make
that noise that that's what it's gonna sound like when
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we start to thump. So so the idea of it was, Man,
I immediately saw how different it was going to be physically,
you know. But then now they had the opportunity to
watch a c I sat right behind him and Matt
Rule in in the in the in the meeting room
that you guys know, Yes, the Matt Rule that coaches
the Carolina Panthers. He was we were line but he
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was a linebacker for Penn State. He was in the
in our room, so he wasn't a linebacker for Penn State.
He was a linebacker for Penn State. But the one
thing about Rule, he was smart and all get out, brother,
and let me tell you something. I'm sitting there a
c was a grown man amongst boys, and and learned
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so much from six right. And then to sit there
and be there with Matt Rule, because Matt Rule was
never gonna touch the field. So Matt Rule was always
making sure he was the smartest due because if he
was gonna ever get the opportunity, it was gonna be
because he's going to be sound, and he's not gonna
make any mistakes, and you almost feel compelled to put
him in the game. So he loved my game, and
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he loved how I was. So he would sit with
me and be like, Okay, this is these are things
you need to look at. This is what you need
to pay attention to. Like you need to be writing
this down look at like the look at the length
of the splits, like look at what what's the down
in the distance. All these different little ideas of of
things that I thought I was aware of because I
had some really cool coaching in high school. But he
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they took my thought process, my learning curve, to a
whole another place. I'm back up. I'm just really digestion
what you played college well with Matt Rule. Yes, I
did not know that. Yeah, he was in the meeting room.
Yes he was my rule. You know what, And that further,
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you know, demonstrates what what what what what? What we're
talking about as far as what what is it require Mr?
Be a head coach? And dude, when you said that,
I was, That's all I was thinking about. Yeah, I
did not know that. He was a dope dude. Man,
it was a dope dude. Didn't have wasn't big, wasn't athletic,
just knew where to be and he played. He was
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a hell of a special teams player. He was a
hell of a special teams player. He gonna make He's
gonna give you some players on special teams. Yeah, man, yes, sir.
And that's why he's so defensive minded, is because he
you know, he played played linebacker, a linebacker. You uh.
And if you want to go to linebacker, you I'll
take you there. And you know what, I'll take you
in my dodge round because it's that time of the
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put out there by one Jason locking for on NFL
on CBS stating the Panthers were willing to part ways
with three high picks and Christian McCaffrey in a package
for Deshaun Watson. Was it true? Was it not true?
If it isn't true, shouldn't have been true. We're gonna
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You might we got a good game going man, this
Michigan State, Michigan game. I'm pretty good and I like.
I like what I'm watching right now. That's a good game.
Were trying to pull out a quality product. I'll tell
you a good game that isn't going on right now?
Is this iwa Wisconsin game? They thought I was twenty
nothing from saying I talked to us baby. It's a
(20:44):
fall from grace. Yeah, I don't know what. This is
really awful, historically awful, not like this gross and nasty
Penthouse to the alright, so so fellas speaking of Penthouse
to out House. Oh mys, what what? What? What you
(21:09):
look at that? That was a fantastic Oh how he
just got most Yeah? Oh my gosh, y'all know what
he's watching the Michigan State Is that or what that?
To lane? You like? You watching the two lanes to
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Minnesota vikings Um years ago before mass and Chris Carter
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before Moss And was it Perryman No, I figured it out.
I think that's his son. Okay, Well, anyway that you know,
there were sources that were saying and it came from
Locking for that there was a trade that was gonna
have a ton of draft picks and included Christian McCaffrey.
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Now it's since been uh corrected, and and nobody wants
Nobody wants to be on the side of ruining a relationship.
We were talking about Matt Rule coming in the last break,
but uh, you wouldn't wanna, you know, destroy the relationship
you have with Christian McCaffrey. Uh, he is a guy
that tends to stay injured quite a bit, and and
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that that you know, maybe that's a whole another conversation.
But it turned out that this was not true, or
if it was true, it's dead in the water now
in terms of a trade that included conversations of Christian
McCaffrey being packaged in that. Uh. But do you guys,
just from your perspective, do you think that that would
have been a good idea to package up McCaffrey some
(22:35):
draft picks and get Deshaun Watson. Apparently, uh, there's now
new investigations taking place by the National Football League as
to what they should do if and when there were
a trade to take place with Deshaun Watson, because those
teams obviously will want to cash in on their trade
and play Deshaun right away. What say you, guys, man,
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If I'm Carol number one, if Deshaun Watson agrees to
go to the Carolina Pattersons, and I say agreed, because
he has no trade clause, I would assume he would
want Christian McCaffrey to play with him. But if I'm
Carolina and I can get rid of Christian McCaffrey, I'm
getting rid of him. That's what you said. He's been
hurt constantly by using draft. He's right, I mean trade
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the guy away, because if I can get Deshaun Watson,
I will if I can get to Shaun Watson. Yeah. Well,
and if Deshaun Watson says I want to play with
Christian McCaffrey, okay, well we won't be trading him in.
It's just that simple. But you get off of that
salary for since they paid him he had, he's missed
more games and he's played in and so the best
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ability is availability, and he's not available. And so if
I can, if I if that's what, if that's what
it takes, then you do it. But obviously, if I'm
Deshaun Watson, I don't want to go to a bare
cupboard in Carolina either. And so Christian McCaffrey's want to
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get best players. But hurt t J come up in
here with his ten dollar words, real scholars. They this
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kissing McCafe, this kissing mccalf through to Houston. It makes
no sense because it just makes no sense for me
to send Christian McCaffrey to the Houston Texas and they're
still gonna They're still gonna have the same football team.
To me, if I'm the Carolina Panthers and I want
to get better right now, I trade Sam Donald to
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the Houston Texas and still give them three first round
picks for Christian McCafferty and uh Deshaun Watson to play
together in Carolina. If you want to contend to win
football games, plex you know Sam Donald has an eighteen
million dollar guaranteed base salary next year. Wow, down, I
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should take some of the value in terms of eating
it up for Watson. Listen to Carolina Panthers, they're gonna
be bad for a long time. Let's let's just put
it out of Sam Donald. He's a good quarterback, he's
not great. Send him to Houston, and still give the
Houston Texans three first round picks. So then if you're
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the Carolina Panthers, you can actually contend to win the
World Championship and you have a franchise quarterback. You have
one of the best running backs in all of in
all of football, so now all you gotta do is
get a defense and stop people from running the score
up on you. But but if you trade Christian mccarvill
to the Houston Texas right now, it does nothing for
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your organization because guess what, you still don't have a quarterback.
So now you're right back at squire one. All right, Well,
it'd be interesting to see trade deadline comes up on Tuesday,
so whatever's gonna happen is going to have to happen soon.
So don't take a lot of time. But we'll have
to wait and see what happens. But right now, before
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we get to up on Game, Down on Game with
our guy, Jake Gaily from the Straight Facts Podcast. Let's
go to our man, Ralph. What's trending, sir, Well, we
got a Donning Brook going on in New Orleans, Cincinnati,
number two in the country, taking on two lane. Now
he is going to fake now. He handed it off
to Ford Ford trying to go up and over some
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defenders and he goes into the end zone for a
Cincinnati touchdown. That's the call from Dan Horde from Learfield.
But the Green wave strikes back and Merritt Glover with
a forty one year Field go right before the half
and at the intermission it is fourteen twelve number two Cincinnati,
a tight one with two lane. Meanwhile, well, there was
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happiness in Plexico versus Heart. The hand off to Kenneth
Flucker running to his right, heads for the pylon and
he's into the end zone. Seven sixty w j R
and the Spartan's radio network with the calls. Michigan State
took the lead, but then the carton calling for the
snap gets the step. He's rolling right. He throws in
the end zone to Anthony. Anthony goes up and roll Anthony.
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That's done Michigan like over a defender and the Wolverines
they take fully Jim brand Stader from Learfield and no
he is not Anthony Carter's son. He's the kid from
East Lansing who's now got what's just happening? Yeah, we
just saw it just happened. Now to give a teck
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a fumble and a touchdown Michigan with the extra points
still to come. And that's what I'm getting a tad
bit nervous because Michigan is looking pretty that's bad offense
right here, man, You almost halftime. Man, run the clock out. Meanwhile,
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I'm sorry, Ralphie, that's okay. Turnovers deep in their own territory.
That's been number nine IWA's game planned for today Wisconsin
and twenty nothing lead over the Hawkeyes at the intermission
at the break, number sixteen, Baylor trailing Texas, the Longhorns
with a fourteen ten lead and Miami up seventeen. At
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number seventeen, Pittsburgh thirty seven to play in the first half.
That used to be such a fun match up to
watch when I was growing up pitt in Miami. That
was a dope, dope little deal. Appreciate that trending, Ralphie.
You do such an amazing job. One of the best
in the game. I won't make sure I give you
your propers because you know what, sometimes people don't get
their propers. So there you go. That's our man, Ralphie
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right there with update. And you know who else we got.
We got Jake Galle and you know what it's time for?
What what is it? Tip for nine for some kicks?
Are you up on games? And let's break this outlet's
back it up? All right? We got our man Jake
Gally as promised for this week's up on game or
(29:19):
down on game? What's up? Jake gets going? What we got?
Y know what's going on? Guys. Very glad to be
with you as always from the Street Fact podcast. But
let's not waste any time. Let's go right into it.
And usually I started us with the best game of
the week with one everyone wants to see. Let's go
the other way. Let's go with one of the uglier
mapups that we have on this card. Two and four
(29:40):
forty nine ers at the pairs. The forty niners minus
four points in this game with an over under of
thirty nine and a half. That's really low for an
NFL game. And I don't know how you bet on
this Chicago offense third worst in yards, the worst offense
in points per game. I don't know because we're quarterback
(30:00):
problem or if it's a head coach problem. I just
know it is a problem. So we'll start with LaVar. Here,
where are you going in this one? Okay? I think
that the forty Niners are going to win this game,
and they will win by more than four points. And
I also think that they will they will beat that
(30:20):
that that point total. So I'm taking the over on
on the total points. I'm in the grants. With LaVar,
we gotta find out if it's a Ricky problem or
a head coaching problem. I'm going to Niners and over.
Matt Naggie won't be coaching because of COVID, so we'll
see if he is the problem. I think for the
first time we all agreed on something. Yes, So of
(30:42):
course when I went first nine, uh, mine is for
and I'm gonna go over the thirty nine. We're we
are all in the grants at least one. Who's going
to be night San Francisco minus four? But I'm gonna
I'm gonna hold my stomach and go under the thirty
and a half. It's really tough to score more. You
(31:08):
gotta hate taking the under because then you do per
plays not to happen. No one likes doing that, but
we do make money. And I just think that these
are two offenses. Are gonna struggle to move the ball
against the opposing defense is one thing to watch out for.
The Niners are very banged up, eleven guys d NP
or limited this week in practice. Obviously no telling which
(31:29):
way they'll go on game day, but that's what we
have in that one. We'll move along now to a
familiar face, the Steelers at the Brown Brown favorite minus
four over under a forty two and a half. We're
gonna spak or may feel back under center this week
for the Browns, something that they sorely missed. And this
is one that betters have been all over Cleveland this week.
(31:51):
It started Cleveland linus two and a half all the
way to Cleveland minus for the Browns. Excellent at rushing
the ball number one in Russian Nord, but Pittsburgh very
sound against the run. Only two touchdowns allowed on the
ground this year. We'll start with Classico. Who you got man?
I'm going my boy, Ben Roethlisberger. He came out and
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said I am still the all time winning this quarterback
in the state of Ohio, throwing jabs at Joe Burrow
and Baker Mayfield. I'm going Stillers, and I'm going over
the point, hey big being not for long, Buddy, not
for long, Cleveland Browns and over hey, Miles Garrett will
(32:34):
be rushing the passer that offensive line. I don't know.
I'm taking the Cleveland Browns, baby, Uh, Cleveland Browns that
you know, Cincinnati, you were good. You you pulled you know,
blind squirrel finds an acorn once and it's like you
pulled one out with since the last week. Uh. That
Browns will not farewell against them. The run is the
(32:55):
way that they do things. They you know, they were
able to run the ball really well and went back ups.
But I do not see that taking place with Pittsburgh.
I'm taking Pittsburgh for the win, but I'm also taking
the under on points. It will be a defensive struggle.
I do not see there being more than that more
than forty some points on the board that would that
would mean that somebody's got will score twinnies and twenties.
(33:15):
I don't think that that's gonna happen. So I'm taking
under Yeah, I'm looking at and this one the Browns
minus four, I think it's the place. But what I
really feel strongly about is that under forty two and
a half the Steelers have not been able to take
the ball away this year. Only five turnovers have they
forced on the defensive end. So we're gonna see these
teams kind of battling out on the offensive side, hopefully
(33:36):
running the football. That will lead to the under. Uh
what's moose to one of my favorite teams to bed
haunt In these past couple of weeks, I've really circled them,
that being the New England Patriots as they had to
face the laws ens or Chargers. Chargers minus towards an
ober and under a forty nine and a half of
Christie Burger got put up on the board last week.
(33:57):
Bill Belichick absolutely courting that that's over more fifty on
the board and that's meaned to be that that has
had people betting on the Patriots again. Started the Patriots
plus five and a half all the way down the
Patriots plus four New England surprisingly SI scoring defense eleven
scoring offense in the NFL. Keitha will start with you,
(34:19):
where are you going to this one. I'm rolling with
Justin Herbert and the Los Angeles Superchargers. Chad is taking
the over the Chadses. I'm gonna agree with TJ on
that one. Taking the Chargers, I'm taking over, I'm taking them,
taking the Judges, and I'm taking the under Bill Billichicks
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when he travels to the West Coast, he doesn't travel
on Fridays, he travels on Saturdays, so the players gonna
be a little bit tired. So I'm going under the points.
That's a that's a real, really good insight info that
actually made sway. How I bet this one? Um. The
only other point I have is that the Stargers stile
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against good passing defenses. Dallas in Baltimore, two of their
toughest tests, really rough them up. I'm gonna take New
England plus for in this game. Like I said, guys,
in New England one of my favorite teams to bed on,
and I will be taking me under forty nine and
a half because of that New England defense. Now let's
move on NFC South Buccaneers minus four and a half
(35:22):
coming into New Orleans against the Saints over under a
forty nine and this is a. It's a really banged
up team on both sides. We have a drunk Blavonte,
David Jpp, march On Lattimore, Richard Herman, all of those
guys questionable cougle one way or the other. So it's
really hard to get a read on this one. But
the Saints defense, in my opinion, not getting enough respect
(35:43):
second and point allowed athan takeaways this year. Uh, they
were battling out with Seattle last week in prime time.
We'll go back to the barn. Who you gotten this one? Oh?
Come on, man, I've been hyping I've been hyping New
Orleans for a long time. Now, I'm gonna stay I have,
I'm gonna stays standing true to it. I believe that
Jamis is gonna have a game. They just added mark
(36:04):
ingram Back. I think adding that power to Alvin camara
Um and all the versatility that he brings to the
table makes this a much better team than what they
were a week before. I'm taking I'm taking that defense
as well to travel. So I'm taking the New Orleans
to win this game. And and and if I'm looking
at points in this game, I'm going to take the
(36:24):
under on it. But I still believe it's going to
be New Orleans that wins. It's easy for me. The
fucking nes and the over. I mean, that's a no brainer. Whatever,
um Tampa and Temple. What what else more needs to
be said? Tampa taking over on the points. I'm taking
(36:45):
Temple to win the game outright, whatever the spread is,
I don't even care what the spread is. You're just
taking nap. I'm taking Temple with the spread to win
the game and the oval on the points because listen,
deep boys putting up forty points a week. Man, you
can say, you can say what you want to say.
I can't wait to get it. We may can't wait.
(37:06):
Ab I hope I hope that feat them feet feeling
a little better. Yeah, you know, stay away from them
them hydro those those cryogenic joints, you know what I mean,
want on your feet. They hopefully they keep they be
away from the cryagenic freezing machine. I think he may
have an out desolation already for this game. I'd have
to seck in on that one. But one week spot
(37:27):
who the defense hasn't passing defense. They let up a
lot of yards in the here and they're facing the
number one team in passive tempt yards then touched down.
That's not gonna stop me from taking this. Daints in
this in a plus four and a half. But we're
gonna go over because because we're not gonna stop, We're
not gonna say Tom's not gonna was gonna get this not.
Of course, have to get the number. It's a tough
(37:51):
bet to go with the Betican of course leaves it
his emotions. His emotions are involved going hard Aney on
the line. But we're gonna get to the last one here, guys.
And this was a real big head scratcher at the
moment because it all hangs in the balance of Dak
Prescott Cowboys going to the Vikings. Vikings favorite by three.
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This is a favorite that flipped during the week one
sickot announced that Prescott may not be able to play.
Once it's announced that he will not be able to play,
you can expect that this line will too in the
favor of the Vikings. If that's the case, over two
and this one too high powered offenses making that total
way high up at two. Uh, we'll go to Plaxico.
Finish us off. Who you got. There's a trap game
(38:35):
for Dallas. I'm taking Minnesota and I'm taking under fifty two.
I'm taking under fifty two. But I'm not saying this
is a trap game. This defense is going to do
what it needs to do. For Dallas, they continue to improve.
Trayvon Digs is the guy. I know people talking about
this that another, but Trayvon is a man. And obviously
(38:55):
that eleven Sticks city. It is a place. I mean,
the boy is just bawling out the offensive balling. Now,
Dak Prescott is gonna play like y'all can forget about
saying he ain't gonna play. He's gonna play. This team
will do well. Ceedee Lamb. I keep telling y'all, Ceedee
Lamb is the man, Lamb, not go. He's a lamb.
All right, I'm going with the Cowboys. I think they
will get the over on that one too. I'm taking
(39:17):
the over, but I guess I'm gonna hedge my bets.
If that plays, I'm taking the Cowboys, and if he doesn't,
I'm taking the Vikings. Please, you can't do that. Come on,
you gotta make a choice, d J Chef. I guess
I'm gonna count on Dak plan I'm taking the Cowboy.
(39:41):
There it is let's send off with Minnister with a
minus SUPERA doesn't play. If you're setting it, you're getting
the best of the number. And if he does play,
still a competitive team. Maybe not minus street competitives, but
they're still competitive team. And we're gonna under fifty too.
I like those both the defenses, and that's what I got, guys.
Good luck to We appreciate that, j g uh And
(40:04):
you know what, in fact, I appreciate you so much.
J g and your picks and your expertise. Jake Gilli
from from Straight Facts podcast. Yeah what you got? So
they have one? They have one all all pro corner
spot Trayvon Diggs or j Ramsey right now? Um taking
(40:28):
Jalen Ramsey. I'm sorry, I just got I can't go
against that. But trayvonn is playing some some serious ball.
I mean I would debate itving call. Yeah, he was
a ride receiver the whole time. Nick Saban. Nick Saban
converted him over the corner. Listen, if you got a
cornerback that can catch, it's all, it's all, it's ball.
In fact, I like both of them so much that
I picked them up, and you know what, I'm picking
(40:49):
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to our long, we appreciate you hanging out and chopping
it up with us. If you're just tuning in now,
welcome into the show. Hope you are enjoying your Saturday
of college football sports. There's some great games going on.
I see that two lane has jumped up on Cincinnati.
Uh Iowa, Sam's Wisconsin. Oh, I mean I was Sam
(02:11):
Iowa Hot guys are losing to Wisconsin because they own
uh Iowa right now, So here we go. I don't know,
it's it's getting nuggly. Uh And in Michigan, Michigan State,
they're they're they're battling it out for some some trophy
where you know a guy that tops down Wood has
a blue ox called Babe. You know they're they're playing
the game, and you know everybody else is out here
(02:33):
and enjoying some Battle of Texas. You've got Texas and
Baylor playing, So a lot of good stuff going on
right now. I'm able to see it. I'm able to
enjoy it. I think you guys are as well. I mean,
t J keeps his hair looking nice and shiny and
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fine wine. I mean, you would never know that we
are speaking of aging the right way. Let's let's jump
into Andre Davis. This is an amazing young man and
(03:38):
we had a great conversation. Here we go. Conversations a
legendary moment, presents conversations would a legtion and now this
is your legendary moment. So you ended up playing your
your your college ball at Florida. You were or the
(04:00):
Gator and then it was a golden error for linebackers
at that school. I mean from Spikes to to rut
to might might I mean, y'all was deep every year.
Every year y'all was and and you are part of
(04:20):
that that that elite group of backers. Just tell me,
let's let's start right there. What was that like? Carrying
on because you came after them? You were you were
with them, but you came after So what was that like?
And not time frame winning winning championships, um, being as
good as y'all were, and you being the main guy
(04:44):
on that defense when you got up in there. Just
just talk a little bit a bit about that, you know,
it was it was very humbling, you know when because
when you get to college you think, like I know,
in Florida, everybody was like you know, we're gonna do
three years and we out three years and going to the
the league. But when you go to a school like
that and you playing behind you know, uh, future first rounders,
(05:07):
it's kind of like you got to wait your turn. Uh.
And I was fortunate enough to have you know, Mike Peterson, uh,
Jay Rutt, the boys, Vaughn you know, and they they
kind of they motored us and they gave us the game.
You know, they showed us what it was like to
to compete and play at a high level at all times.
(05:29):
One thing about playing at Florida, all practices were so tough,
uh not physically wise, but like competitionalized that when we
played on Sunday, I mean Saturdays, you know, the games
were a lot easier because you're practicing gets the best
players pretty much every day. You know, you got when
you gotta Fred Taylor running back. If you're going to
get this dude every day, the best, he's the best
(05:51):
to do it. In my book, yeah, best to do it.
He doesn't get the credit that he definitely that you deserved.
Like but overall, I definitely, you know, I don't want
to be biased, but I am a little bit you know,
being from Florida, but like you know, between him and
LT like those are my two favorites. Yeah, man, Uh,
(06:11):
not to get off of talking about linebackers, but oh
my gosh, Fred Taylor. Uh, I don't know why he's
not in the Hall of Fame yet. I'll continue to
ring that bell. I know that's one of your your
closest friends, plex, I'll continue to sound off on the
horn that uh until Fred Taylor gets into the National
Football Hall of Fame. I still put Asterix every single
(06:32):
time they bring a class in. Not to say that
the guys that get in don't deserve it, but how
is Fred Taylor still not in the National Football League
Hall of Fame? Um? We could start there with that.
But you know one thing that coming out of that
legendary moment that I wanted to throw out at you guys.
It's interesting we talked about earlier in the show, how
(06:53):
it's when you're building something great, it doesn't always happen immediately.
It doesn't always happen right away. You leave high school.
The first thing you're thinking when you're getting recruited is
I'm going to a school where I can play immediately.
I don't want to go somewhere where I'm gonna have
to sit and wait. I want to play immediately. I
think it's the wrong I think they're in a lot
(07:13):
of ways being competitive. It's a great approach, it's a
great idea, but I also think it's misled. I think
that when you're talking about being as great as you
can possibly be and being the best you you can
possibly be, there are so many moving parts that change.
The game remains the same, but there are so many
other elements. There's so many other parts. The way you prepare,
(07:35):
the way your classes are set up, you're you're scheduling
every there are so many things that can take take
you away from being the best that you can be.
Early on in college that to hear Andre say, listen,
we got in there, but we we wanted to get
out of there in three years. But you had to
look at the fact that you might have to sit
and watch for a year, maybe even two years, before
(07:56):
you get your opportunity to start. I think there's some
there's something amazing about the idea of learning from somebody.
I don't care if they're all American or they're a
big name that's in front of you. If they know
what they're doing. If they understand how to study film it,
they know how to take notes different things that you
need to learn, tendencies to look for coming into the game,
(08:18):
and they can give you that that experience as third year,
fourth year, fifth year guys at the at that level,
there's something to be said about that, fellas, did y'all
what was y'all's uh experience? And and and how how
do you guys you know, look at it. I mean
for me, I came out of junior college obviously, and
(08:38):
so it's gonna be a little different. You know, when
you when you come out of jew call, you're expected
to come in and contribute right away, as opposed to
coming out of college. It's when you go to the
type of schools that you guys attended, regardless of what
type of recruiting, how good you are. For the most part,
them dudes are gonna betting you. The college athletes are
(09:02):
just mature and we all want to play. But if
you have to sit and learn, hopefully that's what you're doing.
You're sitting and learning, not just sitting. Yeah, I mean,
because you powder if you want to, and you're gonna
be on the bench longer so you sit and learn
from a physical perspective, but it's more so mentally how
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to game. It's played how why did? Why are they
doing this? Why are they doing that? Ah, this is
how I counter that because so everybody's good. The better
players are better from the shoulders up. And so when
you go to the type of schools you guys went to, Uh,
guys can play physically, but they can really play mentally. Man,
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Iron sharpers iron Man. You know when you make your
decision to go to college, My decision was based on no, no,
how do I feel I want to fill at home
when I'm at school. For me, competing I was the
number one where I resly becoming out of out of
high school. So it was just one of those things
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where I want to go where I'm comfortable. But also,
just like with Dre was saying, Man, you're talking about
Lawrence Wright and Javan Curve, Johnny Rutledge, all these guys
that he got to learn from competition is the best competitor. Uh,
look at look at the career that Andrew Davis had.
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He was playing at Florida and basically in front of
three or four first round picks that that we're playing
in front of him. So so he learned how to
play the game. And and and what he just said
just explained it all. Listen. I knew when I went
to Florida that I wasn't going to be the starter,
and I had to watch and sit there. But that's
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the best teacher. And and and that's some of the
things that these young kids need to learn, is that
when you make a decision, don't just base it off
you know what, you know what, I want to go
here because I want to play right now. But that
but that's always a key. And I'm just I'm thinking
of thinking back to Andre rogers Son. He wasn't happy
with some of the planned time that he was getting
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the state, so he transferred. You know, you know, you're
not always going to be as good as you think
you are when you're coming out of hospital recruited. Now,
I have no I think you transferred like Western Kentucky
or something, just just to get on the feeling. Play
the trust the process, trust your trust the process. But
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you know what it is, though, guys, these days, though
it's easy to seven on seven. You get your buck kiss,
you get the high school, you get your buck kiss.
Growing up everybody is kissing your butt. So then when
you get to college and you have to compete, you
never really had to truly compete. M I mean compete
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that being good on the field, but you never truly
had to compete to get on the field. It's like
you're skipping a step, you know what I mean. Like
for me when I when I came out, I was
the number one Raid to recruit in the country, and
in most publications, I got Parade Player of the Year, Like, yeah,
I can't. I had so many I had so much
accolades coming out. There was that there was so many
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schools I could have went to and started immediately. I
I almost felt as though I negotiated that I was
going to start and I was going to play my
freshman year. I get up there and lo and behold
Aaron Collins. A C was supposed to leave. He was
supposed to leave. He's a fourth year senior. He's supposed
to leave and did not leave. He stayed. You in
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my position, bro, and I came up in that joint like, man,
look I'm bigger than you, I'm faster than you, I'm
more athletic than you. I was not a better player
than him, and and and when we started getting into
them practices and I heard the way the shoulder pad
sounded and the practices that we was in, I was like, well,
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I'm not in Kansas anymore. This this is not like
I am. I am not home anymore. I am somewhere
else because the way this car accident just sounded on
that field. And then they're like, all right, group group three,
Group three, And wait, wait that's my group. That's my
group that's going out there. You mean, I gotta make
that noise that that's what it's gonna sound like when
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we start to thump. So so the idea of it was, Man,
I immediately saw how different it was going to be physically,
you know. But then now they had the opportunity to
watch a c I sat right behind him and Matt
Rule in in the in the in the meeting room
that you guys know, Yes, the Matt Rule that coaches
the Carolina Panthers. He was we were line but he
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was a linebacker for Penn State. He was in the
in our room, so he wasn't a linebacker for Penn State.
He was a linebacker for Penn State. But the one
thing about Rule, he was smart and all get out, brother,
and let me tell you something. I'm sitting there a
c was a grown man amongst boys, and and learned
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so much from six right. And then to sit there
and be there with Matt Rule, because Matt Rule was
never gonna touch the field. So Matt Rule was always
making sure he was the smartest due because if he
was gonna ever get the opportunity, it was gonna be
because he's going to be sound, and he's not gonna
make any mistakes, and you almost feel compelled to put
him in the game. So he loved my game, and
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he loved how I was. So he would sit with
me and be like, Okay, this is these are things
you need to look at. This is what you need
to pay attention to. Like you need to be writing
this down look at like the look at the length
of the splits, like look at what what's the down
in the distance. All these different little ideas of of
things that I thought I was aware of because I
had some really cool coaching in high school. But he
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they took my thought process, my learning curve, to a
whole another place. I'm back up. I'm just really digestion
what you played college well with Matt Rule. Yes, I
did not know that. Yeah, he was in the meeting room.
Yes he was my rule. You know what, And that further,
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you know, demonstrates what what what what what? What we're
talking about as far as what what is it require Mr?
Be a head coach? And dude, when you said that,
I was, That's all I was thinking about. Yeah, I
did not know that. He was a dope dude. Man,
it was a dope dude. Didn't have wasn't big, wasn't athletic,
just knew where to be and he played. He was
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a hell of a special teams player. He was a
hell of a special teams player. He gonna make He's
gonna give you some players on special teams. Yeah, man, yes, sir.
And that's why he's so defensive minded, is because he
you know, he played played linebacker, a linebacker. You uh.
And if you want to go to linebacker, you I'll
take you there. And you know what, I'll take you
in my dodge round because it's that time of the
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year where I can go pick up my mad Matt Rule.
They're up there in Carolina and we jump off that
couch and we go to the stadium. Parking lot. I'm
a tailgate. He's gonna go coach, and you know what,
we're all gonna get done the way we want to
get it done. This season. We're gonna do it right
because we're gonna jump in that RAM. We're gonna load
up the wide screen TV, all that stuff. You know.
The cooler is the grill, and and I'm gonna make
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him something nice before he goes in there and coaches
that game. You know what I mean. The reason why
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on CBS stating the Panthers were willing to part ways
with three high picks and Christian McCaffrey in a package
for Deshaun Watson. Was it true? Was it not true?
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You might we got a good game going man, this
Michigan State, Michigan game. I'm pretty good and I like.
I like what I'm watching right now. That's a good game.
Were trying to pull out a quality product. I'll tell
you a good game that isn't going on right now?
Is this iwa Wisconsin game? They thought I was twenty
nothing from saying I talked to us baby. It's a
(20:44):
fall from grace. Yeah, I don't know what. This is
really awful, historically awful, not like this gross and nasty
Penthouse to the alright, so so fellas speaking of Penthouse
to out House. Oh mys, what what? What? What you
(21:09):
look at that? That was a fantastic Oh how he
just got most Yeah? Oh my gosh, y'all know what
he's watching the Michigan State Is that or what that?
To lane? You like? You watching the two lanes to
get what was the why I was played in the
Minnesota vikings Um years ago before mass and Chris Carter
(21:29):
before Moss And was it Perryman No, I figured it out.
I think that's his son. Okay, Well, anyway that you know,
there were sources that were saying and it came from
Locking for that there was a trade that was gonna
have a ton of draft picks and included Christian McCaffrey.
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Now it's since been uh corrected, and and nobody wants
Nobody wants to be on the side of ruining a relationship.
We were talking about Matt Rule coming in the last break,
but uh, you wouldn't wanna, you know, destroy the relationship
you have with Christian McCaffrey. Uh, he is a guy
that tends to stay injured quite a bit, and and
(22:13):
that that you know, maybe that's a whole another conversation.
But it turned out that this was not true, or
if it was true, it's dead in the water now
in terms of a trade that included conversations of Christian
McCaffrey being packaged in that. Uh. But do you guys,
just from your perspective, do you think that that would
have been a good idea to package up McCaffrey some
(22:35):
draft picks and get Deshaun Watson. Apparently, uh, there's now
new investigations taking place by the National Football League as
to what they should do if and when there were
a trade to take place with Deshaun Watson, because those
teams obviously will want to cash in on their trade
and play Deshaun right away. What say you, guys, man,
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If I'm Carol number one, if Deshaun Watson agrees to
go to the Carolina Pattersons, and I say agreed, because
he has no trade clause, I would assume he would
want Christian McCaffrey to play with him. But if I'm
Carolina and I can get rid of Christian McCaffrey, I'm
getting rid of him. That's what you said. He's been
hurt constantly by using draft. He's right, I mean trade
(23:23):
the guy away, because if I can get Deshaun Watson,
I will if I can get to Shaun Watson. Yeah. Well,
and if Deshaun Watson says I want to play with
Christian McCaffrey, okay, well we won't be trading him in.
It's just that simple. But you get off of that
salary for since they paid him he had, he's missed
more games and he's played in and so the best
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ability is availability, and he's not available. And so if
I can, if I if that's what, if that's what
it takes, then you do it. But obviously, if I'm
Deshaun Watson, I don't want to go to a bare
cupboard in Carolina either. And so Christian McCaffrey's want to
(24:08):
get best players. But hurt t J come up in
here with his ten dollar words, real scholars. They this
(24:29):
kissing McCafe, this kissing mccalf through to Houston. It makes
no sense because it just makes no sense for me
to send Christian McCaffrey to the Houston Texas and they're
still gonna They're still gonna have the same football team.
To me, if I'm the Carolina Panthers and I want
to get better right now, I trade Sam Donald to
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the Houston Texas and still give them three first round
picks for Christian McCafferty and uh Deshaun Watson to play
together in Carolina. If you want to contend to win
football games, plex you know Sam Donald has an eighteen
million dollar guaranteed base salary next year. Wow, down, I
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should take some of the value in terms of eating
it up for Watson. Listen to Carolina Panthers, they're gonna
be bad for a long time. Let's let's just put
it out of Sam Donald. He's a good quarterback, he's
not great. Send him to Houston, and still give the
Houston Texans three first round picks. So then if you're
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the Carolina Panthers, you can actually contend to win the
World Championship and you have a franchise quarterback. You have
one of the best running backs in all of in
all of football, so now all you gotta do is
get a defense and stop people from running the score
up on you. But but if you trade Christian mccarvill
to the Houston Texas right now, it does nothing for
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your organization because guess what, you still don't have a quarterback.
So now you're right back at squire one. All right, Well,
it'd be interesting to see trade deadline comes up on Tuesday,
so whatever's gonna happen is going to have to happen soon.
So don't take a lot of time. But we'll have
to wait and see what happens. But right now, before
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we get to up on Game, Down on Game with
our guy, Jake Gaily from the Straight Facts Podcast. Let's
go to our man, Ralph. What's trending, sir, Well, we
got a Donning Brook going on in New Orleans, Cincinnati,
number two in the country, taking on two lane. Now
he is going to fake now. He handed it off
to Ford Ford trying to go up and over some
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defenders and he goes into the end zone for a
Cincinnati touchdown. That's the call from Dan Horde from Learfield.
But the Green wave strikes back and Merritt Glover with
a forty one year Field go right before the half
and at the intermission it is fourteen twelve number two Cincinnati,
a tight one with two lane. Meanwhile, well, there was
(27:08):
happiness in Plexico versus Heart. The hand off to Kenneth
Flucker running to his right, heads for the pylon and
he's into the end zone. Seven sixty w j R
and the Spartan's radio network with the calls. Michigan State
took the lead, but then the carton calling for the
snap gets the step. He's rolling right. He throws in
the end zone to Anthony. Anthony goes up and roll Anthony.
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That's done Michigan like over a defender and the Wolverines
they take fully Jim brand Stader from Learfield and no
he is not Anthony Carter's son. He's the kid from
East Lansing who's now got what's just happening? Yeah, we
just saw it just happened. Now to give a teck
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a fumble and a touchdown Michigan with the extra points
still to come. And that's what I'm getting a tad
bit nervous because Michigan is looking pretty that's bad offense
right here, man, You almost halftime. Man, run the clock out. Meanwhile,
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I'm sorry, Ralphie, that's okay. Turnovers deep in their own territory.
That's been number nine IWA's game planned for today Wisconsin
and twenty nothing lead over the Hawkeyes at the intermission
at the break, number sixteen, Baylor trailing Texas, the Longhorns
with a fourteen ten lead and Miami up seventeen. At
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number seventeen, Pittsburgh thirty seven to play in the first half.
That used to be such a fun match up to
watch when I was growing up pitt in Miami. That
was a dope, dope little deal. Appreciate that trending, Ralphie.
You do such an amazing job. One of the best
in the game. I won't make sure I give you
your propers because you know what, sometimes people don't get
their propers. So there you go. That's our man, Ralphie
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right there with update. And you know who else we got.
We got Jake Galle and you know what it's time for?
What what is it? Tip for nine for some kicks?
Are you up on games? And let's break this outlet's
back it up? All right? We got our man Jake
Gally as promised for this week's up on game or
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down on game? What's up? Jake gets going? What we got?
Y know what's going on? Guys. Very glad to be
with you as always from the Street Fact podcast. But
let's not waste any time. Let's go right into it.
And usually I started us with the best game of
the week with one everyone wants to see. Let's go
the other way. Let's go with one of the uglier
mapups that we have on this card. Two and four
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forty nine ers at the pairs. The forty niners minus
four points in this game with an over under of
thirty nine and a half. That's really low for an
NFL game. And I don't know how you bet on
this Chicago offense third worst in yards, the worst offense
in points per game. I don't know because we're quarterback
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problem or if it's a head coach problem. I just
know it is a problem. So we'll start with LaVar. Here,
where are you going in this one? Okay? I think
that the forty Niners are going to win this game,
and they will win by more than four points. And
I also think that they will they will beat that
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that that point total. So I'm taking the over on
on the total points. I'm in the grants. With LaVar,
we gotta find out if it's a Ricky problem or
a head coaching problem. I'm going to Niners and over.
Matt Naggie won't be coaching because of COVID, so we'll
see if he is the problem. I think for the
first time we all agreed on something. Yes, So of
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course when I went first nine, uh, mine is for
and I'm gonna go over the thirty nine. We're we
are all in the grants at least one. Who's going
to be night San Francisco minus four? But I'm gonna
I'm gonna hold my stomach and go under the thirty
and a half. It's really tough to score more. You
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gotta hate taking the under because then you do per
plays not to happen. No one likes doing that, but
we do make money. And I just think that these
are two offenses. Are gonna struggle to move the ball
against the opposing defense is one thing to watch out for.
The Niners are very banged up, eleven guys d NP
or limited this week in practice. Obviously no telling which
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way they'll go on game day, but that's what we
have in that one. We'll move along now to a
familiar face, the Steelers at the Brown Brown favorite minus
four over under a forty two and a half. We're
gonna spak or may feel back under center this week
for the Browns, something that they sorely missed. And this
is one that betters have been all over Cleveland this week.
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It started Cleveland linus two and a half all the
way to Cleveland minus for the Browns. Excellent at rushing
the ball number one in Russian Nord, but Pittsburgh very
sound against the run. Only two touchdowns allowed on the
ground this year. We'll start with Classico. Who you got man?
I'm going my boy, Ben Roethlisberger. He came out and
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said I am still the all time winning this quarterback
in the state of Ohio, throwing jabs at Joe Burrow
and Baker Mayfield. I'm going Stillers, and I'm going over
the point, hey big being not for long, Buddy, not
for long, Cleveland Browns and over hey, Miles Garrett will
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be rushing the passer that offensive line. I don't know.
I'm taking the Cleveland Browns, baby, Uh, Cleveland Browns that
you know, Cincinnati, you were good. You you pulled you know,
blind squirrel finds an acorn once and it's like you
pulled one out with since the last week. Uh. That
Browns will not farewell against them. The run is the
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way that they do things. They you know, they were
able to run the ball really well and went back ups.
But I do not see that taking place with Pittsburgh.
I'm taking Pittsburgh for the win, but I'm also taking
the under on points. It will be a defensive struggle.
I do not see there being more than that more
than forty some points on the board that would that
would mean that somebody's got will score twinnies and twenties.
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I don't think that that's gonna happen. So I'm taking
under Yeah, I'm looking at and this one the Browns
minus four, I think it's the place. But what I
really feel strongly about is that under forty two and
a half the Steelers have not been able to take
the ball away this year. Only five turnovers have they
forced on the defensive end. So we're gonna see these
teams kind of battling out on the offensive side, hopefully
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running the football. That will lead to the under. Uh
what's moose to one of my favorite teams to bed
haunt In these past couple of weeks, I've really circled them,
that being the New England Patriots as they had to
face the laws ens or Chargers. Chargers minus towards an
ober and under a forty nine and a half of
Christie Burger got put up on the board last week.
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Bill Belichick absolutely courting that that's over more fifty on
the board and that's meaned to be that that has
had people betting on the Patriots again. Started the Patriots
plus five and a half all the way down the
Patriots plus four New England surprisingly SI scoring defense eleven
scoring offense in the NFL. Keitha will start with you,
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where are you going to this one. I'm rolling with
Justin Herbert and the Los Angeles Superchargers. Chad is taking
the over the Chadses. I'm gonna agree with TJ on
that one. Taking the Chargers, I'm taking over, I'm taking them,
taking the Judges, and I'm taking the under Bill Billichicks
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when he travels to the West Coast, he doesn't travel
on Fridays, he travels on Saturdays, so the players gonna
be a little bit tired. So I'm going under the points.
That's a that's a real, really good insight info that
actually made sway. How I bet this one? Um. The
only other point I have is that the Stargers stile
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against good passing defenses. Dallas in Baltimore, two of their
toughest tests, really rough them up. I'm gonna take New
England plus for in this game. Like I said, guys,
in New England one of my favorite teams to bed on,
and I will be taking me under forty nine and
a half because of that New England defense. Now let's
move on NFC South Buccaneers minus four and a half
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coming into New Orleans against the Saints over under a
forty nine and this is a. It's a really banged
up team on both sides. We have a drunk Blavonte,
David Jpp, march On Lattimore, Richard Herman, all of those
guys questionable cougle one way or the other. So it's
really hard to get a read on this one. But
the Saints defense, in my opinion, not getting enough respect
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second and point allowed athan takeaways this year. Uh, they
were battling out with Seattle last week in prime time.
We'll go back to the barn. Who you gotten this one? Oh?
Come on, man, I've been hyping I've been hyping New
Orleans for a long time. Now, I'm gonna stay I have,
I'm gonna stays standing true to it. I believe that
Jamis is gonna have a game. They just added mark
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ingram Back. I think adding that power to Alvin camara
Um and all the versatility that he brings to the
table makes this a much better team than what they
were a week before. I'm taking I'm taking that defense
as well to travel. So I'm taking the New Orleans
to win this game. And and and if I'm looking
at points in this game, I'm going to take the
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under on it. But I still believe it's going to
be New Orleans that wins. It's easy for me. The
fucking nes and the over. I mean, that's a no brainer. Whatever,
um Tampa and Temple. What what else more needs to
be said? Tampa taking over on the points. I'm taking
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Temple to win the game outright, whatever the spread is,
I don't even care what the spread is. You're just
taking nap. I'm taking Temple with the spread to win
the game and the oval on the points because listen,
deep boys putting up forty points a week. Man, you
can say, you can say what you want to say.
I can't wait to get it. We may can't wait.
(37:06):
Ab I hope I hope that feat them feet feeling
a little better. Yeah, you know, stay away from them
them hydro those those cryogenic joints, you know what I mean,
want on your feet. They hopefully they keep they be
away from the cryagenic freezing machine. I think he may
have an out desolation already for this game. I'd have
to seck in on that one. But one week spot
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who the defense hasn't passing defense. They let up a
lot of yards in the here and they're facing the
number one team in passive tempt yards then touched down.
That's not gonna stop me from taking this. Daints in
this in a plus four and a half. But we're
gonna go over because because we're not gonna stop, We're
not gonna say Tom's not gonna was gonna get this not.
Of course, have to get the number. It's a tough
(37:51):
bet to go with the Betican of course leaves it
his emotions. His emotions are involved going hard Aney on
the line. But we're gonna get to the last one here, guys.
And this was a real big head scratcher at the
moment because it all hangs in the balance of Dak
Prescott Cowboys going to the Vikings. Vikings favorite by three.
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This is a favorite that flipped during the week one
sickot announced that Prescott may not be able to play.
Once it's announced that he will not be able to play,
you can expect that this line will too in the
favor of the Vikings. If that's the case, over two
and this one too high powered offenses making that total
way high up at two. Uh, we'll go to Plaxico.
Finish us off. Who you got. There's a trap game
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for Dallas. I'm taking Minnesota and I'm taking under fifty two.
I'm taking under fifty two. But I'm not saying this
is a trap game. This defense is going to do
what it needs to do. For Dallas, they continue to improve.
Trayvon Digs is the guy. I know people talking about
this that another, but Trayvon is a man. And obviously
(38:55):
that eleven Sticks city. It is a place. I mean,
the boy is just bawling out the offensive balling. Now,
Dak Prescott is gonna play like y'all can forget about
saying he ain't gonna play. He's gonna play. This team
will do well. Ceedee Lamb. I keep telling y'all, Ceedee
Lamb is the man, Lamb, not go. He's a lamb.
All right, I'm going with the Cowboys. I think they
will get the over on that one too. I'm taking
(39:17):
the over, but I guess I'm gonna hedge my bets.
If that plays, I'm taking the Cowboys, and if he doesn't,
I'm taking the Vikings. Please, you can't do that. Come on,
you gotta make a choice, d J Chef. I guess
I'm gonna count on Dak plan I'm taking the Cowboy.
(39:41):
There it is let's send off with Minnister with a
minus SUPERA doesn't play. If you're setting it, you're getting
the best of the number. And if he does play,
still a competitive team. Maybe not minus street competitives, but
they're still competitive team. And we're gonna under fifty too.
I like those both the defenses, and that's what I got, guys.
Good luck to We appreciate that, j g uh And
(40:04):
you know what, in fact, I appreciate you so much.
J g and your picks and your expertise. Jake Gilli
from from Straight Facts podcast. Yeah what you got? So
they have one? They have one all all pro corner
spot Trayvon Diggs or j Ramsey right now? Um taking
(40:28):
Jalen Ramsey. I'm sorry, I just got I can't go
against that. But trayvonn is playing some some serious ball.
I mean I would debate itving call. Yeah, he was
a ride receiver the whole time. Nick Saban. Nick Saban
converted him over the corner. Listen, if you got a
cornerback that can catch, it's all, it's all, it's ball.
In fact, I like both of them so much that
I picked them up, and you know what, I'm picking
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It's that time of the year. If I'm not picking
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