Best of Outkick the Coverage: 01/09/19

Clay Travis reacts to the NFL hires where he thinks some teams are reaching for "the next Sean McVay." FOX's Charles Davis weighs in on that and previews all the playoff games coming up this weekend including the Eagles/Saints game that he's calling! Clay proves he's the King Soloman of radio with the Anonymous Mail Bag and has audio of Alabama's big sports station with a major whiff. Plus, Britt McHnery stops by to talk coaching hires, Scottsdale women and more!

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(00:22):
Fox Sports Radio. It is now Wednesday, our two of
out Kick the Coverage. We're exactly halfway through basically the week.
And what we always do here is the anonymous mailbag
live on the radio. So eight seven seven nine six
six three six nine is the phone number. Eight seven

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seven nine six three six nine. I will solve all
of your problems in the universe, in the world as
a whole. If you're just waking up with us, by
the way, and you're like, what is the news story
of the day, Well, a lot of college basketball games,
not really any may you're outcomes that have changed the
landscape of college basketball. Not really anything that happened in
the NBA last night that changed the landscape of the NBA,

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although it is pretty neat. I just tweeted out video.
Clay Thompson scored forty three points last night for the
Warriors against the Knicks and only dribbled the basketball four times,
which is a catch and shoot moved the basketball kind
of like porn if you are a passing fan in basketball.
To score forty three points and only need four dribbles
is pretty extraordinary for what the Warriors offense was able

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to accomplish, and also how well he was able to shoot.
Three new NFL coaches everybody wants the next Sean McVeigh
as a result. Cliff Kingsbury to the Arizona Cardinals, h
Matt Lafleur to the Green Bay Packers. They both have
small connections to Uh Sean McVeigh, who is the now
uh it it factor. He's everybody want. Everybody wants the

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next Sean McVeigh. He has somehow become the latest Bill
Belichick in the NFL. It used to be Belichick everybody
wanted to to emulate. Now it is Sean McVeigh. Also,
Bruce arians headed to Tampa. Uh seems like a good
fit for Jamis Winston will bring a full cadre of
staff with him, including Todd Bowls On the defensive side

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of the ball, who was recently fired by the Jets.
But it is now time for the anonymous mailbag live
on the air eight seven seven six three six nine
before we get going any further. So, I was out
in l a Um, sorry not l a I was
out in San Francisco in the Bay Area for the
title game and on Monday night, I guess it was

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Sunday night. Actually, while I'm out there, I walk into
the bar and I see a former NFL head coach
uh and a former college head coach. Except I don't
recognize that it's actually Chip Kelly. It I think that
it is Brian Kelly. So I'm seeing him sitting there

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at the corner of the bar. He was on telecast,
he was he was all over the Bay Area, and
I tell everybody, oh, look Brian Kelly sitting at the bar.
And so I'm wondering myself, was it racist of me
to get one Irish man confused with another Irishman. So
we will start here. I'm gonna bring up the crew

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Brian Kelly and Chip Kelly. Now to me, they are
nearly identical. They obviously have the same last name. Was
it racist of me? Danny g to get two irishmen
confused and think Brian Kelly when in actuality it was
Chip Kelly. No, I will give you a pass. And
they look enough like to you, like like when I

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think about it afterwards, I was like, how did I
make that mistake? And I'm like, you know what they
do look a lot alike. I think, well last week
and you weren't the only one doing this, but instead
of Russell Wilson, you said Russell West. Yeah. But that
that that is my argument. See a lot of times
I get names wrong because my my brain moves so fast.
I'm already thinking about a third sentence. I'm gonna say,

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I talk fast. You know, some people on the radio
they talk really slow and so they don't really say
that much. There's lots of pauses everything else. I'm a
fast talker, so I'm already onto the third sentence when
I'm saying the first sentence. I know where I'm going already.
So when you I mean, let's be honest. It was
like yesterday. On yesterday's show, I got Melvin Gordon and

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Melvin Ingram mixed up. I mean to me, if you
have a relatively unique name and like Russell is not
that common of a name, and Russell Wilson and Russell
Westbrook are almost identical in age, and so they've come
up at almost the exact same time, and they it
seems like they're always, you know, like in the news
around the same time. I mess up those all the time.

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Melvin Ingram, Melvin Gordon. If your name is Melvin, it's
so rare to have a Melvin. The fact that the
Chargers would have too, and that they would both be
big time playmakers on their team really big upset there.
But this is like I actually saw him. So I
was telling everybody, Hey, I wonder why Brian Kelly sitting
at the bar here. Chip Kelly makes a little bit

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more sense because he's from just down the road in
l A. But Brian Kelly maybe would have made some
sense because Notre Dame was in the playoff two. Either way,
I legitimately got them confused and had no ability to
distinguish between them. Now, Brian is a little thinner, right,
but they both kind of look flush. You would figure
both would be hanging out at bars because because you're racist,
because you're saying that Irish people like to drink, no

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that's not what I'm saying. They both have that kind
of flushed look to where it looks like they knocked
back a couple of Guinness. Look they What do you
think Eddie Garcia had fair or foul? Or was it
racist of me to get Brian Kelly and Chip Kelly
mixed up? Well, first of all, I have I've made
the Russell Westbrook Russell Wilson mistake before, so I'm definitely
giving a pass on that one. But I think Chim

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Kelly and Brian Kelly they do look a lot alike.
I think they've got similar uh builds. Um look at Irish. Yeah,
and I'm guessing they were wearing their signature a visors.
They were probably you know, a suit or something. So
I'm gonna give you a pass on that one. So yeah,
I'm not too bad. What about you or berno pass
or fail and give you a pass? Man? All right?

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So that is the solve. We'll solve that problem. Uh.
That that is one issue that has been in front
of me. Danny g You got a Chick fil a question? Yeah,
So mark this date down in history. January Burbank, California,
my hometown. We get our very first Chick fil A.
And this has been I think seven months they've been
doing the build out, so the city has been buzzing

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for almost a year now waiting for the opening day.
People are already camping out there, Clay to be the
first in line. My question to you, it's gonna be
my very first time walking into the Chick fil A doors.
What should I order? A good question. You go always
number one. I understand there's like a desire for some
people out there to go with like the spicy chicken sandwich.

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You go with the standard the number one, which is
just the standard Chick fil A sandwich. Maybe go with
a little bit of an oversized fry. They got the
red container fry. I'm making myself hungry just talking about this.
Like the red is like the large, you know, kind
of waffle fry container for Chick fil A. Or you
can go with your standard size drink. Also think the
Chick fil A lemonades pretty solid. But you just go

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with the number one meal is what you should start with.
Um and uh and and I'm glad that California continues
to be exposed. Um as we as we add in uh,
they continue the Chick fil A expansion into that universe.
All right, let's uh, here's what I'm gonna do. Here
is the anonymous mailbag. All right, for everybody out there
just waking up. I will solve all of your problems.

(07:38):
I'm gonna let Dub field these calls as we go
to break. When we come back, I will go to
the phone's all right, any problem that you have across
the country, I will solve you call in anonymously. All
you have to do is give your city or your
state to Dub and then I will solve all of
your problems for you. All right. Eight seven seven nine

(08:00):
six six three six nine. Is that number? Eight seven
seven six three six nine. We've opened up the phone
lines for the first time to you guys right now.
Uh so, first time of the week. This is my
opportunity to give back to everyone and solve every possibility
of an issue that you could remotely have anywhere across

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the country. Be sure to catch live editions about Kicked
the coverage with Clay Travis weekdays at six am Eastern
three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app. Let me bring in Charles Davis now
he's at CFD twenty two. He calls games four Fox
he is, uh, I'm sure going to remember, right. So
I started off the show talking about Charles how In

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college football for a long time and still to a
certain extent, everybody has been looking for the next Nick Saban,
and so if you had proximity to Nick Saban, you
had a very good chance to get a job, whether
you're offensive and defensive side of the ball. It was
this idea that whatever genius Nick Saman had in the
coaching universe would transfer to his subordinates. Same thing happened

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with Bill Belichick in the NFL. It's been going on forever.
If you were one of his assistants, you can get
ahead job. That's how NFL coaches when NFL owners went
about hiring. Now it seems like the NFL is in
love with Sean McVeigh and that everybody wants that fifty
four fifty one Rams Chiefs game. They want that to
be their future. The difference is Sean McVeigh hasn't even

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won a playoff game yet. You got David or Matt
Lafleur getting the job despite the fact that he just
had one year as O C with the Titans. You
got Cliff Kingsbury, who UH is coming off a five
and seven season with the UH with the Texas Tech
Red Raiders, he gets the head coaching job now at
the Arizona Cardinals. It's a good time to be a
little bit scruffy in the face with your beard and

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also be in your thirties and be connected to the
offensive side of the ball. If you worked with Sean McVeigh,
isn't it? It certainly is. And I think that you know,
going even deeper besides, you know, the the offense and
the pyrotechnics, which I think some of the owners and
some of the people who are looking at they may
have forgotten. As the season went along, the pendulum swung

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back a little bit too. It was it wasn't all
just you know, every one game is like a time
capsule game, right, And we froze it there and said
that's our season. And then the Saints went to Dallas
and got and we started looking along the rest of
the year and realizing some of the games were not

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turning out that way. The Colts got into the playoffs,
not just because Andrew Luck had a fantastic year, but
their defense really played well during their streak they ended
up shutting out those same Dallas Cowboys in a ball
game I think twenty three or twenty seven and nothing.
Dallas's first shutout in a long long time. So I
could give you more examples of that, but you, I
think you are absolutely on target that once this process

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starts and people decide this is what they want and
this is what they're looking for, they find ways to
get it done. I do that. I've done the Tennessee
Titans preseason package the last few years and been fortunate
enough to do that. And Matt Lafleur came over this
year and I got to meet him and spend time
with him, and I like him a bunch. If you
look at the numbers that were put up this year, though,
you would not say that's it, that's what we want,

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unless you would say, well, the Derrick Henry game where
he ran for you know, eight million yards and this
and that, that's perfect. Marcus Mariota has not made that
jump yet. Now there are different reasons, you and I
both know them. Too many offensive coordinators, too many head coaches,
too many injuries. But still he didn't make that jump
like Jared Goff did under Sean McVeigh and you know,

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let's face it, that's a huge jump. Mittell Trobinski's jump
under Matt Neeggie was significant, okay, which is exactly why
Neggi was hired. They're hoping to get the same thing
out of Matt la Florida. I wish him all the
best because I think he's terrific and I like him
a bunch. I'm not sure we saw that when absolutely coming,
but that made sense. Cliff Kingsbury, I thought an offensive coordinator.

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I'm not saying he can't be a head coach because
he's been one before Texas Tech. This is almost unprecedented, though,
isn't it. I mean to go from a guy who
who who lost his job in college below five hundred
and he gets a job in the NFL and is
one of the hot guys and like multiple teams wanted
to interview him. So I think those teams are going
to be involved, not just in obviously installing him as

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a head coach, Clay, but I would think Steve Kim
as a general manager will probably have a pretty heavy
hand on putting together a staff for him as well.
It's not just you know, Cliff, Hey, Cliff who's your staff.
Will you bring in the Cliff here's our ideas about it,
because defense was never a forte for Texas Tech, as
you well know. So he's coming in the biggest reason

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Josh Rosen. They drafted him last year. They have to
get him right. Cliff Kingsbury can have a great hand
in getting that done if you check his past and
go on to me. The best hire has been Bruce
Arians in Tampa because you're getting a complete package, proven guy,
proven quarterback guy has made every one of those guys better,
from Andrew Luck to Carson Palmer right on down the line.

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And he's bringing Todd Bowlsen, who specialty his defense and
that's how he got the head coaching job with the
Jesse's a tremendous defensive coordinator in Arizona. With Bruce Arians
and Byron left which will come into coach quarterbacks and
he played in the league. So I just think that
that higher on the surface, right out of the gate,
exactly what Tampa needs. And it's a team that's been
waiting for that and needing that desperately, and especially on

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the defensive side of the ball. We're talking to Charles
Davis at CFD twenty two. You can find him there
on Twitter, calls games for the NFL for Fox. All Right,
you got four divisional round playoff games, Colts going to
the Chiefs, Cowboys going to the Rams, Chargers to the Patriots,
and Eagles to the Saints. If you had to pick
one of those four teams to pull off the upset,

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who has the best chance to do it? Well, I'm
doing the Philadelphia Saints. Aim someone to stay away from
that one. Okay, that is a that is a big
game to call. Have you been down to call? How
many games have you done in New Orleans over over
the years. Yeah, I'll probably somewhere near but five or six.
All right, So for people who haven't been down there

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to see the Saints play in New Orleans, what does
it feel like in the Dome when they run out
on the field and what is the vibe? Like? Everybody
talks about how good of a home field advantage they have,
but most of the people who are listening to us
have never been to the Superdome to see a game
for the Saints. You've called several what's it feel like?
It's it's a it's an incredible rush. You know that

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people really you know it sounds cliche. They support this team,
they lived through this team, and when that team finally
comes out in this showtime, they feel a part of it.
And let's not kid ourselves. Unfortunately, we had Katrina and
as one of the worst things that we could have
had in in in this world for that part of
the country. But don't think for a second that didn't

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also help continue to bind that city together in that
in that crowd support. You remember the first game back,
Steve Blee, all of those things that just added to
it for the Saints. Plus after all those years of futility,
the Saints are consistently good now. And but but I
will give you this city a ton of credit. They
don't take it for granted. You know, some places got

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good and all of a sudden the tenor changed in
some of those places. Not in New Orleans, it is
still all about the Saints. People still support them like
mad and it is a great rush. And there are
a few places like that in the league. I'm not saying,
you know, any place is better than another, because I
don't need to. I don't need that hassle. But but
but you also know that certain places, when you go

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you know, Seattle raising the twelfth Man flag is an example.
You know, they have what they've got and the fans
come along with them. And the New Orleans is one
of those places. So you're gonna be calling that game.
That will be an incredible experience. Let me ask you
this too. You spent some time like everybody else, you
probably spent a lot more time this week Nick Foles. Um,

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what is going to happen with Nick Foles? And what
have you seen from the Eagles that can help to
explain why they win and what a difference he makes
for them when it comes postseason time. Well, I think
that he will be somewhere else next year. Yeah, there's
too much of an investment with Carson Wentz. And it's
not like Carson Wentz has been bad. I mean we've

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been through it time and again. He doesn't blow his
knee out in l A. Last year's probably the m
v P of the league. And we don't know whether
they win the Super Bowl or not because we can't
deal in that, but they would have been a favorite
to get there. Foles came in and people people forgotten
that when he took over the city of Philadelphia went
into collective angst. They thought it was over okay, and

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anyone in Philly's gonna call me and tell me they
didn't think that. I don't believe them because I ended
up on a lot of their radio shows and dealt
with them, and they were like, oh my god, we
gotta know shot and then it happened. So let's let's
get passed out. And here's why I think it's worked
well in playoff time. The team has been fairly well
intact at playoff time. For Philadelphia offensive line received Remember

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all Sean Jeffrey was intact last year for the big run.
Even though he was playing hurt, he was able to
be out there and make plays for them. The offensive
line played so well last year. They were so good
last year that when Jason Peters went out, how a
polovt Vitai came in and elevated his play and Lane
Johnson was an All Pro on the right side this

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year before when Scot hurt, that line took a beating.
Lane Johnson was in and out of the lineup. Jason
Peters hurt numerous times. He would start every game, but
he wouldn't finish off and they were four. He didn't
finish you know at left guard, sayemaluis new ski in
and out of the lineup. If you looked at this run, now,
this line has gotten back fairly well intact. During the

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run with Nick Foles, he's only been sacked five times
in four games, and none of the big rushers have
gotten to them, so they've played well. Alshon Jeffrey has connection,
has a big connection with Folds. It's working well, tap
being integrated. Now I can go right on down the
line with all those things. They have gotten healthier and
played better during that time frame when Wentz was in

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there struggling and flip it over to the secondary clay.
They all had to introduced themselves to each other. The
coaches had to go who's on the roster right now.
But for the last month that's been stable and guys
like Craivon LeBlanc have played better. So I'm not saying
it's all that Foles has a big hand in it.

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He has a magic to him when it comes playoff time.
But I think he's gotten a little bit of of
good fortune along the way too, because remember the beginning
of the season, they couldn't wait to get Wentz back
in the lineup. Struggling on offense. He had all the
pieces in place, and he wasn't the same guy as
he was in the playoffs the year before. It's a
strange phenomenon. Some things can't be totally explained, but give

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Nick Fole credit. When the bill rings late, he appears
to be ready to go. All right. Colts, Chiefs, Cowboys, Rams, Chargers, Patriots, Chargers,
Cowboys or Colts. Who has the best chance in your
mind of pulling off an upset on the road in
the divisional round playoffs? Um, the best is the Colts.

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The one that I think is going to happen is
the Chargers. I say the best with the Colts because
of their ability to protect Andrew Luck. They've given up
the least amount of stacks, even though they're going against
the team that's tied for first in sacks for the season.
But overall on defense has been a struggle for Kansas City.
So Kent City has gotta find a way to affect
Luck otherwise they're in another one of those games. Even

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though I think Mahomes will play well, I think the
Chargers roster is very good, and you saw the bounce
back against Baltimore after Baltimore handled him a few weeks
ago out out in California. How about that game plan
on defense? Haven't as it bottled up Lamar Jackson for
in the game, Um, they had a nice lead, they
didn't take. They didn't turn the ball over the getting hunter,

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Henry Back. I think that the Charger's roster is more
than good enough to go in there. If they were
playing anyone else but New England, I think that they
would be a favorite class. I think that that's a
good team, a twelve win team that ended up as
a five seed, but going to New England. Bill Belichick,
Tom Brady cold Weather. Most people will pick against them.

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I'm actually picking them. Can you imagine what it would
be like if the Colts pulled off the upset over
the Chiefs, and if the Chargers pulled the upset off
over the Patriots and the a f C Championship game
was in a thirty thousand seat soccer stadium in Los Angeles?
Do you think the league might jump in and say,
you know, the Los Angeles Colsium is available. I asked

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that question a while ago. I mean, I genuinely wonder
whether they might and if you're if you're a Colts fan.
I mean, I think that tons of people from Indianapolis
would flood into Los Angeles to try to buy up
those tickets, right, because how often do you get to
watch your team for a chance to go to the
Super Bowl um in great weather in l A. I mean,
I would think that if you were a Colts fan,

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that would be a I mean I might even aggressively
go ahead and buy a plane flight to l A
get my my tickets locked in now if they're fully refundable,
just on the possible chance that that game might occur.
And I don't think that Chargers fans out in Los Angeles.
I don't know that the Chargers organization. I don't know
that the team would be upset about moving. Ordinarily, you

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move out of your own stadium and your own digs,
you gotta fight on your hands. I don't know that
they would have that full no, you can't leave our stadium.
I don't think that they'd be like fine, whatever, because
you're almost doing a civic duty for the fans. Where
you go from thirty thousand seats two upwards of eighty
five to ninety thousand seats available for a big time

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team big time game. You know, you're almost almost doing
van from from from Batman. You're taking it to the
people you know, And I know that it seems a
little bit self serving. In most cases, you don't take
that game away from a team and from their stadium.
I don't know that this is one of those that
anyone from any side would fight against it. Now we'll

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see how the league wants to handle it. More than
likely the game would be played out in the soccer stadium,
because I think the league would would not want to
get involved in that. But boy, it seems to me
like it leaven a lot of tickets on the table
and a lot of atmosphere on the table as well.
I just got back. I was out to the Bay
Area to watch Alabama against Clemson. I'm sure you watch

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that game too. How shocked were you by the outcome?
I was shocked by the score and how it and
how it got there. I wasn't shocked at Clemson one.
Did I pick Alabama? Yes, But anyone who heard me
during that time frame, everyone every time it was who
do you like? I like Alabama close, But the one

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team that can beat Alabama. They're playing on Monday night
and the reasons being all the all the all the
easy ones. They played each other a bunch, so they're
not intimidated, you know, they know each other's style fairly well.
But the biggest one is the athletic ability of Clemson
was a total match for what Alabama had and as

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we saw in some cases, overwhelmed them. Their receivers way
better than their defensive backs. The defensive front of Clemson
so good that they could withstand the loss of one
of the better players in the country. And it really
wasn't much of a mention. Wasn't class I mean once
once the ball was snapped, it wasn't like, well, boy,
they're really missing him in there and Alabama's exploiting it. Nope,

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had nothing to do with that. The young quarterback played well.
Give Dab both Sweeney and his and his and his
staff credit. The Kelly Bryant thing was not easy. They
met it head on. They were honest with the young man,
and they put themselves on the line because the easy thing,
similar to Nick Saban the year before, the easy thing
would have been to leave Jalen hurt in right, he

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knew that a chance to win was to bring into us.
They got it done. In this case, the easy thing
would have been to ride Kelly Bryant. He was the
guy who been there, took you to the sevenins a
year before. What they thought was best for the team
was to play the freshman, no matter how uncomfortable it was,
and it turned out to be the correct decision, better
for the team. Hard decisions. I'm glad it wasn't my

(24:15):
kid who got replaced there because that would have been
hard to live with. But that is athletics, and you
gotta give them credit for being up front and doing it.
They didn't do it behind anyone's back. They didn't. They
just told him straight up, here's how it's gonna be.
We'd love to have you around. But you know, he
made his choice and off they went. And this kid
can play, So give Clemston credit. And I know I'm
gonna get in trouble here, Clay, and let me see

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it real quick. They're an SEC team and I can
hear the a CEC people in the rest country having
a stroke. I'm not denigrating the a c C. The
best team won, but what I'm saying is they build
themselves big defensive line with speeds. So in other words,
four and five yard runs against anyone else against them

(24:57):
are two yard runs. That's how the SEC. He's won
so many national titles. They've gotten the head of the
curve with that. I get it from coaches all the
time when they described their players, no matter what part
of the country they're in, I can be impact twelve country.
And they have a defensive end. Remember Leonard Wins at
USC all they ever said was He's an SEC defensive end.
So there is something to that. And Clemson has always

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thought of themselves as an SEC program. You know that
from from where you live in the country. They've always
seen themselves that way. Now they're actually living it, and
good luck folks chasing them down because they're recruiting like math,
They're coaching and developing players at an incredible rate, and
people are excited about wanting to be part of that
Clemson program. I give them nothing but credit, and I

(25:41):
hope everyone understands it was not an insult and it's
not me trying to make the SEC better. It's just
a standard and how they play, and Clemson more than
lives up to it. Last question for you, Tennessee just
hired Jim Cheney offensive coordinator from Georgia. I believe. Yeah,
he's back one five, one six and one seven, one

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point seven million dollars in his find in his third year.
A lot of money there. What's your reaction to that,
higher you're a former Tennessee player, A little bit of
spice there in the off season in the Southeastern Conference. Yeah,
I think I think it works because to me, it
fits what the head coach of Tennessee is looking for.
I'm always leary about head coaches going outside of who

(26:23):
they are to hire offensive coordinator or defensive coordinators and
put in a system that they're unfamiliar with. I always
thought when Philip Fumer hired Dave Clawson, but never a match,
and he was trying to get something that he didn't
believe in. When Tommy Tubberville hired Tony Franklin at Auburn
hired something he didn't believe in at that time. You
see where I'm going class In this case, Jim Cheney

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runs offense the way I believe Jeremy Prutt wants it
to be run, and it matches with how he wants
to play defense. There's a pro style element, although you
and I both know pro and college elements are really
melding well now, but it's going to be a heavy,
heavy run game when they can establish a big offensive line,
quarterback who can play in and out of the pocket, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
That fits what he's looking for and it makes a

(27:08):
lot of sense. So I give him credit for that
on the surface, because that fits what he likes to
be as a head coach. From what I can tell,
outstanding stuff. As always. Will be watching you on the
Eagles Saints on Sunday afternoon. Can't wait and enjoy the environment,
enjoy the fun down in the Superdome. We'll talk to
you again soon. Great talking with you. Take care of
Be sure to catch live editions about Kicked the coverage

(27:29):
with Clay Travis week days at six am Eastern, three
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But excuse music boys, You've got anonymous mail bag all right, there,

(27:56):
we have the music. Let's begin. We're going down to Mexico, Mexico,
what you got for me? Hey, good morning to say
I'm conning about my steps he is, he's twenty four
years old, doesn't say any bills. The party's on the weekend,

(28:16):
you know. And I try to get with him and say, hey,
you know, you gotta at least sis in and do
some cleaning around the house or something, and the guy
doesn't want to. Budge's just uh, I think he's just
you know, Obama's boy, and uh, I want to see
you know, what's you thinking about that? How long has
he have you been in the family? In other words,
he's your step son, but he's like how much of

(28:39):
how long have you been married to his mom? Fourteen
years already, So he's you've known him since he was
a kid. I mean that you've been around this kid
a lot. Yeah, you know, he calls me that. So
he's he's my son. So so twenty four, what has
he done since he graduated from high school? What's he
been doing the last six years? He graduated already from

(29:02):
my school? He's uh, he's got an engineering job. You
know in Mexico they don't pay that good. But uh,
I mean he's putting in work. You know, he was,
but at st iim tell him. You know, life is
gonna cost you more than what you pay here with me. Yeah, no,
I appreciate called. This is a big problem that people have,
I think across the nation is that you have these kids.

(29:27):
Remember back in the day when the Cosby Show, like
Bill Cosby used to talk about how his goal was
always to get the kids out of the house so
he could go back to just being there with his wife.
And you send your kids off. You may pay for
him to go to college, you pay for him to
go to community college, you pay for him to go
out into the world and be responsible on their own,

(29:47):
and then they just come right back and they live
with you well into their twenties now because people don't
get married as young because it's expensive to buy homes
in many parts of the country, and so you end
up with a children living in your house and you're
like the failure to launch syndrome. Remember the was the
Matthew McConaughey movie, where like he just didn't do anything,

(30:09):
Like he just stayed at home into his thirties. I
don't know what you do there. I don't know that
there's an easy solution, but I think, on one hand,
what I would do because I got three boys, but
they're all young, I think you need to start charging
rent on them. I mean this honestly. If your kids
are in your in their twenties and you don't think

(30:29):
they're working that hard and they don't seem to have
any real motivation, I think you need to start having
them pay you rent because at some point, and I'm
not saying like, look if if they have like some
major financial calamity, uh impacting them or whatever else. I'm saying,
if they are living with you for years and they

(30:50):
aren't really progressing in their life, I think you need
to start charging them rent and be like, hey, I'm
not gonna be here forever. If I weren't your parents,
you wouldn't be able to live here for free forever.
You can't freeload. You need to understand how to budget
your money, and you need to be thinking about how
to make money. It's like my my argument all the

(31:11):
time for guys out there is if you want to
get a really good looking girl, go make a lot
of money. I'm telling you, you're in college right now.
There's guys listening to me right now in college and
they're like, man, I don't get any of the good
looking girls, they don't pay my attention to me or
anything else. About the age of twenty four or twenty five,

(31:33):
when girls get out of college and they start to
realize what things cost. Money becomes a big impact when
it comes to your overall dating profile. I'm telling you,
because up to that point, girls don't give any thought
to what kind of money somebody's gonna make, so they're
just trying to all date the same cool guy in

(31:53):
high school or the same cool guy in college. And
then about twenty five they suddenly realize, wait a minute,
if I want to live in this school district, if
I want to get a house in this neighborhood, if
I want to put my kids into this private school,
the lightbulb goes off for girls, and it goes off

(32:14):
for girls typically before it does for guys. But suddenly
the guy who went to law school, suddenly the guy
who went to med school. Suddenly the guy who was
a little bit nerdy, maybe didn't make that, wasn't the
best player on the on the athletic teams, wasn't the
coolest guy in college. He starts to skyrocket up the
draft board, and all of a sudden, he's got girls

(32:36):
falling all over him because girls are realizing what things cost.
They went to college and they got that art degree,
and they're making twenty six thousand dollars a year and
they're barely scraping by trying to live in a decent
sized city, and they're like, oh my god, it's really
expensive to live in this country. Yeah, no kidding. There
better be somebody if they're gonna get married. That makes

(32:58):
a lot of money. If you're trying to make that
live thing off that art degree. Oh that being a teacher.
It sounded really good when I was in college and
I was still living on dad, And now I gotta
live on that teacher salary. Oh, I'm not gonna be
able to live in the school district I want to
live in. I can't even afford to live in the
school district Dakota, I teach him. Makes a big difference.

(33:18):
Le's go to Silicon Valley. I was just there. What
you got for me? Yeah, Clay, I need your help. Um,
me and my wife have a four year old son.
She really wants another kid. I really don't. We want
back and forth. So I said, you know what, if it,
I'll give you a kid. Let me get a hell Cat.
It's basically the car of my dreams. So I got
the hell Cat, had it for about six months, and

(33:41):
now she doesn't want the kid and wants me to
stick to the deal, which means the car. Wait. Wait,
so okay, so this is it? So what did the
car cost about? All right? So you bought the car,
your wife is like, I want a second kid. And
then six months after that, why did she decide you
didn't want a second kid because of financial situations? We

(34:04):
want to spend, you know, kind of spoil our four
year old, I guess have fun. And you live in
Silicon Valley. It's not exactly cheap, and probably buying a
fifty thou dollar car didn't help the financial situations. So
she wants you to give it back. But after six months,
what's that car worth? Like thirty two? No? No, I
could probably sell it for what I got it for
because it's a rare car, but I'll eat the sales tax,

(34:26):
which is gonna yeah. Um, well, so thanks for the call.
I feel like this is a bargain for exchange. Now
there's In general, women are more likely to argue that
they want kids than men are and sometimes, especially if
you've got one kid, the argument about kid number two,
kid number three, God forbid, kid number four kid become

(34:49):
pretty substantial, and they're often bargained for exchanges inside of marriages.
It's not talked about that often. But when we had
our third kid, I was like, I was for me.
I wanted multiple kid, like I would have a fourth kid.
But we had our third kid. I told my wife,
all right, we'll get a nanny like that. That's my
if we're gonna have a third We've got three. I've

(35:10):
got a ten and eight and a four year old.
I was like, we'll get a nanny if we have
a third kid. My wife was like, all right, we
can have a third kid. Bargain for exchange in the marriage.
Lots of women out there traded things for their kids,
a lot of you out there. All it took with sex.
Your wife got a new bit of lingerie. Next thing
you know, you got a kid. Women out smartest. Most

(35:31):
of the time you didn't even know you were buying
for it. She get you, get you a nice bottle
of liquor, Get you a nice little bit of lingerie.
She was playing all along, Oh, I'm gonna get pregnant.
You're not even thinking about it. You're just a guy.
You're just an idiot. New bottle of liquor, a little
bit of lingerie boom. You sold out for cheap. This
guy held out for a car. At least my wife

(35:52):
held out for a nanny. Well, she doesn't want to
sleep with me anyway, she's married, but she held out.
Got a nanny anyway. Eight seven seven, six three nine.
We're taking your call, Spokane, Washington. What you got for me?
Thank Clay. I listened to the NHL Network on Serious
and I heard something that made me think exactly of you. Uh.

(36:13):
There's a curling team that has been uh set up
by Jared Allen, the professional player from the Vikings. He retired,
he decided he wanted to be Uh, I have a
curling team for the Olympics, and surprise, surprise, he now

(36:34):
has his team together and they are practicing him playing
in Nashville, Tennessee. So my problem is honest, Clay, Travis
candle bat when he said he could be a curler. Yeah,
it's a great question for people who don't know. I
said that if I focused on it, I could become
a curler. Like I'm convinced that now I have zeroed

(36:56):
out that if I um that if I worked on
this and just kind of diligently went about it, that
I could become a member of the United States curling team.
I have zero down. I have really good aim, all right,
I have. I've always had great aim. And this is
what's wild about it. There is right now in my town.

(37:18):
I need to go out and try out with these guys.
I need to see how good they actually are. There
are four former NFL All pros in uh Nashville, Tennessee,
where I live, that are all trying to win now
Olympic gold and curling, and they all practice together. And
I'm trying to pull it up right now on my
screen to make sure I get all these guys correctly.

(37:41):
But former Minnesota Viking defensive end Jared Allen is one
of them. Keith Bullock, former All Pro linebacker for the
Tennessee Titans, Mark Bulger, the former quarterback, and uh, let's see,
by the way, how about you. When I go on
a website and there's like a billion different ads that
up up, have we ruined the Internet? This drives me insane,

(38:04):
Like I just want to click, like I put it
a Google search, and all I wanna do is click
and get this small bit of information. Who are these
four different players? And I get all of this different
crap that pops up on my screen, and I can't
even just get the most basic information imaginable. It drives

(38:25):
me insane. All Right, here we go Michael Rousse, who
was a left tackle for the Titans, former pro bowler, Uh,
Keith Bullock, Marc Bulger, and Jared Allen are all working together,
and uh, that would be incredible. This would go a
long way towards making my argument that if you just
committed to making the United States curling team, you could

(38:47):
do it. Like everybody kind of laughed at me when
I said this, but these NFL guys, who are obviously
pretty good athletes here in my own hometown of Nashville,
they are trying to do whatever it takes to make
the two US men's Olympic team in curling. And I
think it's certainly possible, because I don't think it's all
about probability in numbers. Find something that not very If

(39:10):
you wanted to become an Olympic gold medalist, you need
to find something that not very many people do that
doesn't require a great deal of athleticism, and then you
just need to commit your life to it if that
were your goal. And that's what I said during the
Winter Olympics last time. I said, Look, if I wanted
to become an Olympic curler, I think if I just

(39:33):
did this full time, I could do it. I think
I would become extraordinary at it. And these NFL players
they're putting, they're putting my thesis to the test. I'm
rooting for him. Let's go to Texas. What you got
for me? Hey? Uh, I was going to my way?
Would be the best time to visit Masheduthenessee. Um, well,

(39:54):
thanks for the call. Sounds like the number of people
who call this show and sound drunk early in the
morning really underrated, right, Like that guy from Texas just
called in and we get a ton of calls, and
I'm like, you were drunk, And I understand it a
little bit on the West Coast, because my argument for
a long time has been that six to nine am

(40:16):
Eastern on the East Coast and three to six am
on the West Coast are the most different that the
country can be. Right, three am on the West Coast,
a lot of you are finishing off your day six
am on the East coast. Really everybody is starting their
day right so there can be a lot of difference there.
If you're drunk at three am on the West coast,

(40:37):
I understand it. Drunk in Texas at six thirty in
the morning Central time down in Texas right now, which
is what it is tough to explain. Best time to
visit Nashville, I think is the best time to visit anywhere.
If you have four seasons. Don't come in the winter,
come in the spring, come in the fall. Don't come
in the summer, it's too hot. That would be my advice.
All right, we're gonna bring in Eddie Garcia. Continue to

(40:58):
take your calls eight seven and seven nine nine six
six three six nine. Anonymous mail bag will take a
couple more of your calls. I'll continue to make the
world a better place by giving the perfect advice. I
am the King Solomon of the Internet and of radio
eight seven seven nine six six three six nine. Eddie
Garcia bringing you in right now. Uh, what do you
think how many you don't have any kids yet? What

(41:19):
would your wife have to do to make a trade
in order for you to have kids. Uh, gosh, that's
a great question. I don't I mean, have you had
the conversation? Am I putting you on the spot? Has
your wife's been like I think at this point in
our lives, I think we're pretty content with with where
we are. So, so, what would you do if she
came to you and she said, we have to have
a kid, we have to have a kid in the

(41:39):
next six months. I would Uh, I would start to
get to work, I guess. So you wouldn't fight. It's
a woman's decision. She's gonna have to deliver the baby,
so I mean, yeah, it's kind of really her decision. Yeah,
there's no doubt. All right? What else I got you
nervous there? By the way, they just like the usually
you're so smooth in the updates. All I had to
do was bring this up and you started to panic

(42:01):
a little bit. And I'm not even your wife. Yeah
maybe maybe so maybe so? Alright, Well, you're talking about
curling and ice, so maybe it's a good time to
let you know. The NHL season continues tonight with the
colorad Avalanche never not going by the way, there's like
one week they get off on the NHL. They they
worked fifty one weeks a year in the NHL. Maybe so,
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(42:45):
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(43:06):
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over the Knicks, and the Timberwolves beat the Thunder one nineteen,
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Let's go to the phone number by the way, dubb

(44:10):
is fielding the first time we've opened up the phone
lines for the week. By the way, eight seven, see
six nine, dub fielding your calls. Let's go to West
Palm Beach down in Florida. What's up? I claim? This
is Jerry calling. I don't know what a double emoticon is.
You always say you'll end you if you use a
double emoticon, but I have to end you when you

(44:32):
get you here. The same commercials over and over, the
the Guico and the True Car just drive me insane.
All right, hang up on this guy dubbed where's dub?
I was misled? There? Here's the deal. Here's the deal.

(44:52):
What what were you missed? How were you misled? He called,
saying he had more complaints about the advertisements that you
were just talking about on the internet. So I said, okay,
that that could be a good conversation to have, you know,
a little venting activity on all these pop up ads,
which I think everyone has a problem with, like you,
like you stated, yeah, but this here's the deal. The
way that this program works. Let me just kind of explain.

(45:15):
You get to listen for free, and in exchange, advertisers
get to talk to you, right, like, that is the
way the program works. If we were, for instance, Netflix,
I could charge you ten dollars a month and you
could listen to my program and there would be no
ads because you would be paying for the content. Right

(45:41):
when you do not pay for the content, and we
are on in all fifty states. The way that this
company works and makes business is off of advertisements. And
so that's the literally the way the business works. If
we didn't have any ads, do you think I would
wake up in the morning and do this show. No,
I would still be sleeping. That's literally the way that

(46:04):
the show works. So if you think to yourself, you
know what, I would love Clay Travis without a single
advertisement associated with him, then you should create a business
model that is predicated on how Netflix works. Right, you
sit down in front of Netflix. There's not a single commercial,

(46:24):
but you have to pay ten dollars a month to
get Netflix or twelve dollars a month or whatever the
heck it is. And that's an interesting business model. And
maybe there's a business model out there for radio without
a single commercial. I haven't ever seen it. Even podcasts,
there's lots of commercials, So maybe that's the answer, but

(46:44):
so far it hasn't been created, so I don't have
Look when I gripe about, um, you know, internet ads.
The thing, the information that I was trying to get
was something that somebody else had written that was just
aggregated on the Internet. Literally, they just took somebody else's work,
which was who were the curlers that are working here

(47:05):
in Nashville so I can get their names right? And
then they are like a billion different ads that pop
up while I'm just trying to get that simple information
who were the four former NFL Pro bowlers? And this
happens I feel like two people everywhere. Now you get
on Google and you're like, I just need a simple
piece of information, like who starred in Ferris Bueller alongside

(47:28):
of Matthew Broderick, Like that's a question that could easily
come up, and I'm just pulling that randomly out of
my air sloan whoever played the role of Sloan, Like,
you just want to know that name, and you type
it in and when you go to the website that
comes up a billion different ads pop up simultaneously. And
that's not really that in that interesting of info. Right,

(47:49):
It's not like you're reading an eight thousand word piece
that somebody wrote and you're like, okay, well they deserve
to get their money for this. It's like you just
took that information from somewhere else and now there's a
billion different ads popped up. You got me all riled up.
Now that's different than this. That's on you, though, Dub.

(48:09):
You are the screener when somebody is awful. That is you.
That's on dub dub with the fail. All right, we'll
take a few more of your calls. We'll come back.
I've got an incredible audio clip. Alabama was all cued
up and ready to celebrate their national championship, and unfortunately
for Alabama, uh, they had some ads already ready to roll,

(48:30):
and even more unfortunately for the station, they ran the
ad accidentally in Alabama as if the Crimson Tide had
won the national championship. When I play this ad for you,
oh you're gonna be like it's probably not very good. Uh,
trust me, you're gonna enjoy it, especially if you're a
Clemson fan, or if you hate the SEC, or if

(48:51):
you hate Nick Saban and Alabama will play it for you. Next.
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an incredible clip for you. Clemson kicked Alabama's ass on
Monday night. Wasn't remotely close that game. You would think

(49:14):
that it would mean that you would not make a
big mistake. Like on the main Alabama radio network running
an ad advertising how great it was that Alabama won
a national championship. We have Lance Taylor on regularly on
this show. He's on Jocks, which is the flagship Alabama

(49:35):
University of Alabama radio network in the entire state of Alabama.
They were ready for Alabama to win their sixth the
national title under Nick Saban. This is the ad they ran.
This ad ran all over the state of Alabama. Yeah,
it's definitely a mess. Listen to this. Roberts coming to

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(50:17):
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from Roberts for Jock's five. All right, that is a
big wi All right, this is I'm gonna be honest

(50:59):
with you. I have done so many things like this
over the years to get ready, like I remember, UM
and and a lot of times you do stand ups
like these, UM on the side of the sideline before
a game. I've done it for television a bunch where
you record a hit not even sure who is gonna

(51:19):
win the next game, to talk about as if the
game is certain. Does that make sense? I'm trying to
put this in a good way, Like UM, if you
like you're you're on the sideline for a game and
you know that if team, your team has just one
and you're not sure who they're gonna play against, so
you go ahead and do two different versions, right, so

(51:42):
you're you know, for instance, in the NFL playoffs, you
don't know exactly who is gonna play against on Saturday.
The NFL playoffs will be going on, right, and I
guarantee you a ton of guys will do this. The
Colts and the Chiefs are gonna play. Right. If you
are doing the stand up for either the Cold or
the Chiefs on Saturday, you don't know where you're gonna play,

(52:04):
and you don't know who you're gonna play because the
Chargers and the Patriots have to play, all right, So
there is a possibility that they'll go ahead and record
something talking about both matchups as if they are going
to happen, even though one of those teams is gonna lose, right,
the Chargers or the Patriots are going to lose. But
you might do a tagline talking about the a f

(52:25):
C Championship game. Hey, I can't wait to see the
Colts and the Patriots or I can't wait to see
the Chiefs and the Chargers and that game never comes about.
And moreover, you might also talk about that game, like
how you think it's gonna go. I've always been afraid
that they would take the wrong clip and play it
and then everybody would ridicule you and make you look

(52:47):
like an idiot. Like that was obviously prerecorded and ready
to run, and somebody just didn't fix it and it
went out. You know, for that's a long advertisement to run, right,
And it's been designed as if the guy is sitting
there at the at the Academy Sports watching all these
Alabama fans run in and this is like your worst nightmare, right,

(53:09):
Danny G Like this would be a major if we
ran an ad like this, this would be a huge
screw up, right, Yeah, now what it made me think
of is our dude Veto who makes all the promos
and recordings with the big network voice that you hear
on Fox. He has to in advance do a version
where Clemson won, or do a version where Alabama one.

(53:32):
So this would be like us, right after the title
game ends, we play the wrong one and we're congratulating
Alabama for winning. Yeah, and everybody out there is like, oh,
these guys. And the way people respond on the internet
typically is they're like, oh, look, how idiot. How a
bunch of idiots these guys are. They don't even know
who won the game. No, you have to be prepared
in the job for the event before it actually happens,

(53:55):
so you can have everything queued up. This is actually
a sign of being so on the all that you're
prepared for what was the expected outcome. Right, Bama was
a six point favorite in this game. You're prepared to
make your advertiser happy by having a brand new ad
that seems real to run at that exact moment. Now,
the reality is all this Alabama championship gear, of which

(54:16):
there are thousands and thousands of them already in the
process of being shipped out to Africa. And one day
we'll see, you know, like a picture in the background.
Somebody will be walking around and in Alabama two thousand,
eighteen fifteen and oh, undefeated champs T shirt. Right. I
mean that's stuff. That's what I'm not kidding. That's where
that stuff goes. And there's a great article from several
years ago talking about how all the rejected championship gear

(54:40):
it just gets donated to an African country and that's
why sometimes you see people wearing those shirts that represent
championships that were never one. Yeah. Well, I think what
makes this funny is that he says he's sitting there
live in the store. Yes, you're still there. That's the
next level of commitment from that guy, is that, hey,

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not only are that we're selling a ton of this gear. Man,
it's going out like that is where you are leaning
into the advertisement where you're not even there and you're
claiming that you're gonna be there. Now, maybe he was
gonna be on the plane and he was. My guess
is he would have been in some of these stores
um at some point in time. But that's a big
swing and a miss, and I can only imagine in

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the state of Alabama, on a station that big, how
many people are just rolling their eyes And also that's
a long ad, right, but anyway, that's pretty funny, all right.
When we come back, we will be joined by Britt mckenry.
I think sometimes Britt wakes up with us, sometimes she
does not. We'll talk to her about Sean McVeigh, about
Cliff Kingsbury and Matt Lafleur all getting jobs because they

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are good looking men in their thirties with facial hair
slight scruffy facial hair. And also we'll talk about Bruce
arians to the Tampa by Buccaneers, the other five open jobs,
and what she thinks about the playoffs going ahead. My
name is Clay Travis. This is Outkicked the Coverage where
we hope that we will never make a will like
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Now Britt mckenry at Britt mckenry on Twitter, formerly the
ESPN Now with Fox News Brett, you know Sean McVeigh

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a little bit. You know Cliff Kingsbury, I'm sure, Matt Lafleur,
all that crew. I've been saying that it used to
be in the NFL that everybody wanted to get the
next Bill Belichick, and so you had this huge cadre
of people who got their jobs based on proximity to
Bill Belichick, whether it was Al Grow, Bill O'Brien, Josh McDaniels,
Jim Shorts, Eric Manginie Romeo Cornell, Charlie Wise, Matt Patricia.

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Now it seems like everybody wants the next Sean McVeigh.
Is this gonna work better than the next Belichick? Did?
I mean, look, look, this is no disrespect to Shawn Day,
but it's been what two years, I mean, like he
has it. I think there's a big difference between Bill
Belichick and Sean McVeigh. I would agree with you that

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there's a sad right now. I mean, he certainly has
had a lot of success in Los Angeles. You know
they're in the playoffs, you have goodbye, We'll see what
they do. But it's like, I think maybe you should
win a playoff game before you crown someone the next
best thing in football. But there's always that hunger and
that appetite to have, in my opinion, not necessarily the
next Sean McVeigh, but the next slash in the pan

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offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator. In the NFL, you're never
really fired. You're just rearranged to another team, right, and
sometimes you get back to college. So I think right
now we're seeing that, Um they just happen to have
connections to McVeigh. But it's like anybody who's too over
eager for somebody that's that's young, or this this this
great offensive coordinator. I would like to point to Adam

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Gaze and on the defensive side, Todd Bowls who's going
to have a resurgence now in Tampa with Bruce Arians
Which I do think it's a good combo, but like
I think you need to pump the brakes a little bit.
All Right. If Cliff Kingsbury, who I think we would
both agree is a very attractive man, if he weighed
three hundred pounds, what are the chances he gets an
NFL head coach. I mean, Cliff Kingsberry and Scottsdale Girls

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are a match made in heaven right, cla have if
you talked about this. Um, No, I'm just kidding, but
I think he plays he plays the part. He has
a he's a really good looking guy. He's had success
with quarterbacks. Um, you know Patrick Mahomes, Johnny Manzel, who
probably is the most bright evidence of what quarterback can

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do later on in the NFL. But they want that
for Josh Rosen and I think his connection to quarterbacks
is really the stickler here. But yeah, I I give
him the title. If I was to pick the most
attractive coach in that division, I think it would be
Cliff Kingsbury written, you've been out in Scottsdale before you
mentioned it. I remember being out in Scottsdale. I think
when when did they have the super Bowl in uh

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in the Phoenix area. I don't even remember who was
playing in the Phoenix like the Scottsdale areas super Bowl,
But I remember I was out in Scottsdale and I
was sitting on one of those patios and just watching
all the girls walk by, like while we were drinking
on the patio, and like I couldn't even figure out
where the dresses that the girls where would be purchased right,
Like I've never seen like such tiny like I don't

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even know where those things exist, like such tiny dresses
on so many different people, like one after another, high
heels tiny dresses. Is Scottsdale the hottest town in America?
Like if you had to draft a town where people
are the best looking, and people might say like l A.
But l A is a huge, sprawling metropolis. There's probably

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a particular section of l A where but I've never been.
I'm gonna be honest with you, I've never been anywhere
in my life, uh, with more attractive women walking by
than Scottsdale, Arizona. I agree with you, CLA. I think
Scott's Dale would take the cake with that one because
Los Angeles is just so big, it's so sprawling, and

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I think it gets a little bit more of that
reputation title because you just assumed Hollywood actresses, but if
you go by actual you know, Yeah, I don't know
where you would go in in l A. And I've
been all over l A because Fox is based out there,
and I like spending time in Los Angeles, But I've

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never been anywhere in l A where I just sat
at a restaurant and watched people walk by, and I
was like, this feels like a runway. Maybe Miami, maybe
like South Beach in a particular neighborhood in Miami. You
could make that argument too, but I've never seen anything
like Scottsdale on a Saturday night. Yeah, I think overall,
I'm from South Florida. I think Miami would possibly be

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number one because if you get international models, right, so
like actual models, but in Scott's Dale, you're getting all
of the girls that are in Los Angeles in California
going to college in Scottsdale work. By the way, Let's
be honest, if you go from California to Arizona for college,
you couldn't get into u c. L A. You couldn't

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get into cal Berkeley, Like you couldn't get into those
incredible col schools, right state schools. So you go to
like Arizona State and you're just like dropped dead, gorgeous,
but you might not be the smartest person on the planet. Yeah,
or like you really think in your head you're getting
far away from your parents at a su Like, I
think that's some there's some truth to that, but overall

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I agree with you, And I mean, like I said,
I think because you tweeted and I was laughing that
it's the best looking division. Now, you know, if you
can think about the coaching division now right, like you've
got uh, Matt, the Matt Lafloor just got a job.
Will get to him with Green Bay in a second,
because I'm kind of fascinated by that. But in the
in the NFC West, you have got Cliff Kingsbury, who's who's,

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let's be honest, drop dead gorgeous. And I say all this,
by the way, with an unblemish record of heterosexuality. You've
got Sean McVeigh, who's a good looking guy. Sean McVeigh
is still also only like thirty two years old. He's
like five nine. Nothing against the short guy's listening, but
they'll continue. I still would go with yeah, and he's
he's like thirty two years old, so he's still insanely young.

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Pete Carroll's gotta be sitting around like I don't Pete
Carroll's like sixty seven. But I think Pete Carroll is
so botoxed up. Have you noticed that he hasn't had
a facial expression in like thirty years. I mean, he's
got to be but I don't. Otherwise he has like
the least lined face of all time. But like you
see that guy like on the sideline and he's clapping
and like, but his face doesn't move at all, Like
I don't. He does chew the gun, but even when

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he's chewing the gum, like, he has no wrinkles on
his face, which I don't even understand how that's possible. Um. So,
I mean that's the l a connection that Pete Carroll
has up in Seattle. So you look at this division.
Who's the third guy that I'm forgetting now who's also
good looking? H So he got Kingsborough, who got Sean McVeigh,
Oh yeah, and Kyle Shanahan who's pretty good looking in
San Francisco. To best looking coaching division of all time,

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it's up there, you know. Unfortunately, I think our man
Pete dragged it down a little bit. You know. Once
once Pete was considered the young fun NFL coach. Like
how times have changed? Uh? But no, for sure, and
we take a step back. It's the best looking division
since Mike Dicka was coaching by himself because he was
just so so much like sexual charisma there that the

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rest of the division didn't even matter that mustache that
he had just dominated the entirety of the NFL. Yeah,
but Cliff Kingsbury is leagues a hat. That's a very
good comparison with Mike Dicka. But Cliff Kingsbury's like a
Ryan Gosling look alike in my opinion. So I think,
you know, it's him and then everyone else far behind,
but certainly the youngest, most kind of you know, pop

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culture division that they have. Can you imagine, Like, so,
Cliff Kingsbury gets fired in Lubbock, Texas, and I believe
we're on on in love. So I'll just say it's
a phenomenal place to live. But I don't think there's
anybody who's ever made the decision like I'm living in Scottsdale.
I think I'll move to Lubbock, you know, Like that
was my thing. When Lebron made the decision to move

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to Cleveland. I think that was the first time anybody
had ever moved from South Beach to Cleveland. And like
the history of mankind, like, that's not if you voluntarily
make that decision. Um, I don't think very many people
have ever been like, hey, you know what, I'm in Scottsdale.
I'm gonna move to Lubbock. And I remember having this
conversation actually with Lane Kiffin because his family lives still,
I believe, in Manhattan Beach, California, and I was like, dude,

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you have to be the first person of all time
to move from Manhattan Beach, California to Tuscaloosa, Alabama voluntarily.
And he was like, I think I probably am. And
he's like, that's why my wife. That's my wife and
kids at the time state in Manhattan Beach. But you
get fired as Texas Tech coach and then get a
head job in Arizona. It's really pretty remarkable. I mean,

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talk about winning the lottery. It's unbelievable. Get that offensive
coordinator higher at USC correct so like you gotta feel
for USC a little. What a dumpster fire USC is.
I mean, that's like everybody is unhappy with Clay Hilton.
He has like ten days where people are excited because
he hires Cliff Kingsbury as his offensive coordinator, and then

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I think he only had like a hundred and fifty
thousand dollar buy out or something that he had to
pay to get his multimillion dollar job. It's really pretty incredible. Yeah. No,
and and then you just look at Um. Not to
jump too much ahead, but as you mentioned Matt Leflour,
like Matt LeFleur, I covered him when he was I believe,
a quality control coach in Washington and uh, no, you

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know what, and he was a quarterbacks coach and he
was let go because of all the drama with r
G three and a lot of great coaches were let
go the whole Shanahan's staff. So again it's that coaching
carousel where Matt Lafour is really tied into Kyle Shanahan
as well. And Um had to have us some help
getting a job at Notre Dame. And then we've seen

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his track go along as it it has. He's a
great guy. As a lot of people said, I wish
success in Green Bay. I just don't really understand how
that was the obvious choice from one of the best
quarterbacks in the league. Like, is Aaron Rodgers just gonna
now unofficially be coaching the team like Lebron was in Cleveland?
Like that's my question. Yeah, you know what. It's also crazy, like, uh,

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the stats. Obviously, I pay a lot of attention to
the Titans, and I saw Calherd talking about this, and
this is one of my first questions when I saw
this the numbers when he's only called place for one
year in the NFL. Matt Lafloria maybe a great guy, right,
And the total offense got worse this year and then
and uh with the Titans than the year before. The

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points per game went down substantially and the past offense
was all worse. So the Green Bay Packers are hiring
a guy who went and took over for Mike Mularkey
and was much worse. And again, the question that I
would ask is how much of youth is helping these
guys out? Because I think so many people watch that
fifty four to fifty one game, right, They watched the

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Rams play against the Chiefs and Owners and GM's all said, man,
I want the future of our team to look like that,
And that game got put on Sean mcveigh's shoulders, like
this is mcveigh's NFL. Everybody's chasing him now. He still
doesn't want to playoff game, mind you. And like you said,
he's only been with the Rams for a relatively short
amount of time. But Cliff Kingsbury, he's young, he's got

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kind of the scruffy face. He's quarterback whisper. Matt Lafleur's
got the same look to him. It's not only that
we're trying to remake the NFL now in Sean mcveigh's image.
It's that we're literally trying to remake the NFL and
Sean mcveigh's image. We want the young, good looking, offensive guru.
And I really think that if Kingsbury and Matt Lafleur

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looked like Charlie Weiss, there's no way they get hired
for these jobs. Yeah. Well, and and like the one
thing though, I have to ask people when they go
when they say that, because you're right, Clay, But it's like,
I also look at these teams and it's no disrespect,
but like Sean mcsayh inherited the Rams roster, Like how
is the world did Jeff Fisher not win more games?

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Like the players that they have. You have the best
running back, you have Todd Gurley, you have you know,
the number one pick, which that year I had argued
I thought Carson went should have been the number one pick.
But look, Jared Gosspan proven me wrong. Um, even though
he played terrible in Chicago weather might be a concern
with that team, but um, but still you've got a roster,

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you got Aaron Donald, got a great defense. I sometimes
wonder like if too much praise gets put on the
coach when they just have a really great team to
go to. Like Kyle Shanahan on the flip side of that,
got the worst team and the worst roster you could inherit.
So I think we need to give him more time
because I truly think he you know, minus a bad
call here and there in the Atlanta Super Bowl, Um,

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I think that he's a great coach. So that's the fad.
But again, in a year, they all could have terrible
seasons and we're onto the next fat That's how the
NFL works. How do you think Bruce Arians will do
in Tampa? I love Bruce Arians. Honestly, his age is
a little bit of a concern to me because he's
sixty six years old, and you know, he was having

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health issues in Arizona. I was there, actually the draft
in Arizona was the last thing I covered for ESPN,
and he was a great guy. I mean, he came
downstairs and obviously we sort of know what happened with
me there and and he just gave you a big hug.
And it's that girl I didn let go nine times
in the NFL. So he's a great person to be around.

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He really loved actually he loved Patrick home. That was
the year that they had sort of considered maybe going
up to get a quarterback, but didn't. I think he
if you want to talk quarterback whisper, I think he
would be great with Jamis Winston if they're still going
to try to give that one last go and um
assembling parts of the team that he had in Arizona
when they were really good again. And I don't think

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Todd Gold is a head coach. Maybe down the road
will proved me wrong. But having him back coaching on
the defensive side, that's where his strength is. So they're
reuniting from Temple University. I think that could be a
very interesting city to watch at a team to watch.
For sure, people out there right now listening to you
at Britt mckenry obviously remember you from ESPN. They've here
heard you for a while on this show. To where

(01:10:22):
can they find you? Um? Well, I think can find
me on Fox News, UM your show, hopefully keep coming
back and Fox Nation I have a show. We just
launched Foxy Nation in late November to streaming service like
everything if you cut cable like me, um and I
host on PC there with my co host and yeah,

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I'm just a little bit everywhere. And Fox five DC.
I have a have a show there as well, So
outstanding stuff we're gonna get you on weekly as we
continue to roll through the season. I'm excited about that
and enjoy the games this weekend. Thanks you too. Be
sure to catch live edition About Kicked the coverage with
Clay Travis weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific