Best of Outkick the Coverage: 01/10/19

Clay Travis thinks that the listeners on his Twitter poll are 100% wrong about Kyler Murray and he asks the crew and FOX 's Mark Schlereth about it. FS1's Todd Fuhrman stops by to talk about Clay being roasted on TV earlier this week and gives you all the best NFL bets for the weekend!

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Sports Radio. Kyler Murray has to make a decision about
whether or not to go pro and uh in particular,
a lot of people you just heard, by the way,
how good was Mark Slaire. Mark Schlaire, it just joined
us an hour too, And he's always phenomenal, always such
a good guest, one of the top radio guests we

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have by far um and he's always got so many
interesting things to say. And his son was a first
round draft pick at in baseball. Obviously, he is a
former NFL player, And a lot of people are in
this Kyler Murray report, which by the way, is coming
from the San Francis Go Chronicle courtesy of sources in
the Oakland A's. The Oakland A's are saying they expect

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Kyler Murray to declare for the NFL Draft, And my
argument has been, we've got a poll question up about
this that he should go and if he can be
drafted in the first round, it's a no brainer that
he should go into the first round. I've got a
poll question up asking you guys, should he go into
the NFL or Major League Baseball? And this is a

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good example I think of people being reflexively dumb. Usually
there is wisdom in the masses right in general, I
believe in democracy. I believe that we should have millions
of people make a decision and that they're going to
make the right decision. Sometimes that's not correct. Sometimes people

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make dumb decisions. And I think that is the decision
that is being made right now by our poll voters.
Nearly nineteen thousand of you have voted in the first
hour that this poll question has been, would you advise
Kyler Murray to go pro in Major League Baseball or
the NFL. You can go vote at Clay Travis is
the location on Twitter. You can find me easily at

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Clay Travis. Seventy four percent of you are voting that
he should go pro in Major League Baseball. Now, the
evidence doesn't support that he should do that. Why not?
Of first round draft picks in the Major League Baseball,
only sixty six percent of them ever make the major leagues.

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So one in three of first round draft picks in
Major League Baseball never make the major leagues. Only forty
six percent of them ever ever make it more than
three years in Major League Baseball. And when you actually
look at the numbers, if Kyler Murray is a first

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round pick, and this is a quote from Baseball America,
and I put out the this, uh, this article for
you guys to read. If Kyler Murray gets drafted anywhere
in the first round in the NFL, he will earn
somewhere between two and seven times as much money over
the next five years in football then he will in baseball.

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If Murray is even an average NFL quarterback, he will
make more than he will as anything other than an
all star outfielder. And this is pretty wild when you
actually break down this scenario. Here's uh, here's a further example.
I'm reading from Baseball America, and this is I think

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information that is counterintuitive relative to expectations in football, Murray
is consistently projected as a first round pick his college teammate,
Baker Mayfield landed twenty two million as a signing bonus
and over thirty two million in guaranteed money by being

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the number one pick in last year's draft. If he
plays reasonably well, Mayfield will get a big pit pay
day as a free agent after the two season. Even
if he signed a five year extension, Mayfield would hit
free agency again in for a second big pay day.

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That's the best case scenario. And then they say, well,
what if Kyler Murray lasts until the very end of
the draft. Then they say that Kyler Murray will stand
to make twenty million or more before he gets to
free agency versus four million dollars that he will make
playing baseball, which is really pretty fascinating, And they even

(04:43):
break down the baseball decision in baseball, Kyler Murray is
signing for four point six million dollars. Okay uh, But
that's the only pay day he will get in baseball
for the next five to seven seasons. And he has
a long road to get to the major leagues. And

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they say, even if he gets to the major leagues,
he's still three years away from arbitration. So his first
big payday for baseball wouldn't come until three or four.
Even if he's a good baseball player, his first chance
at baseball free agency wouldn't come until six or seven.

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By that time, he would be twenty nine or thirty
years old, which means he would only get one significant
free agent contract if he ends up being a very
productive baseball player. So this is a little bit counterintuitive
because I think a lot of people, because of the
risk of injury and CTE and everything else, I think

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that baseball is the safer financial option. It's actually not true.
For Kyler Murray. Football, if he is a first round
pick at the quarterback position, is by far the safer option.
If maximizing income is one of his goals. Now, look,
if he just loves baseball a lot more than he

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loves football, then more power to him. He can go
chase after whatever whatever dream he wants. But I do
think that's kind of very counterintuitive and reflective of the
fact that our poll voters, nearly twenty thousand of them
this morning, are getting that wrong. Only percent of people

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are correctly analyzing this situation and saying that Kyler Murray
should go pro, particularly in football this year, because the
quarterback class is pretty weak, and I think he would
definitely be a first round pick. In fact, if you
want a little bit of drama, Cliff Kingsbury now the
new head coach of the Arizona Cardinals, he happens to

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have the number one overall pick, and what do you know.
Back in October, Cliff Kingsbury had this to say, Kyler
is he's a freak man. Party is a really good
young player, and he's going to be a tremendous player.
But Kyler as a freak And I've followed him since
he was a sophomore um in high school, and um
just think the world of him and what he can

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do on a football field. And I've never seen one
better in high school and he's starting to show it
now at the college level. I mean, I don't have
enough good things to say about him. He's phenomenal. I've
never seen him have a poor outing, not one which
a quarterbacks it's impossible to do, but he's done it.
And uh, I want I take him with the first
pick of the draft if I could. I know he's
signed up to play baseball, but he is a dominant

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football player, and um, I would I would take him
with the first pick. Wow, Cliff Kingsbury probably didn't think
he'd actually have the first pick when he was answering
those questions in October, But oh, how the apple turns.
He now has the number one overall pick. Now, of
course he has Josh Rosen. Uh. And Josh Rosen was
the first round pick of the Arizona Cardinals last year.

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And that's in fact, one of the reasons why Cliff
Kingsbury is being hired is because this idea that he
can be a big, big helper in terms of the
growth of Josh Rosen. But man, that's a hell of
a sound bite to have floating around out there. As
Kyler Murray makes the decision about potentially going pro, be
sure to catch live editions about Kicked the coverage with

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Clay Travis weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app.
I'm confident in saying that I think Kyler Murray should
put his name into the NFL draft and see where
he goes, and then potentially that the NFL would offer
him a better pathway to success than Major League Baseball would.
And this is one of those rare times where I

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put up a poll question and I I check it out,
and I actually think, you know what, you guys are
missing the boat in the early votes that are out
there on the poll question on Twitter. You can search
me out at Clay Travis. Would you advise Kyler Murray
to go pro in Major League Baseball or the NFL.
I put this up at the start of our merciall

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break A thousand of you have already voted, and seventy
percent of you are saying he should go pro in
Major League Baseball. And in theory, I understand that argument.
But I just ran through the data for you, which
I think proves that if Kyler Murray were a first
round pick in the NFL, it would be smarter to

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go to the NFL. The other thing is you could
always go back to baseball. I don't think you could
go to baseball and decide to come back to the
NFL at the quarterback position in the same way. Now,
a lot of people also probably wondering where does this
guy fit in the overall NFL pantheon of quarterbacks? And

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I think that's always interesting to think about where he
would project. To me, he is a smaller version of
Russell Wilson. I mean almost identical to a lot of
the things that Russell Wilson can do. He's got a
really big arm, He's more athletic, I think than Russell
Wilson is fat master, but he's smaller. I don't really

(10:03):
think that Lamar Jackson analogy makes sense because I think
he's a more accurate pastor than Lamar Jackson, and I
think he's got a bigger arm. I also think that
they're equal maybe in the shiftiness component. Um, but I
think the analogy if you are an NFL team and
you're thinking about drafting Kyler Murray, I think the player

(10:23):
you would plug him in, and Russell Wilson also plays baseball, UH,
the player you would plug him in to reflect is
Russell Wilson. And Russell Wilson has obviously been an incredible
player for years with the UH. With the Seattle Seahawks now,
Russell Wilson was not a first round pick primarily because
of his size. There was concerned that he wasn't big

(10:45):
enough to succeed in the NFL. I think one it
would matter where Kyler Murray measures. I think this is
one of those things where it matters. A great deal.
What height Kyler Murray actually shows up and puts forward.
Is he gonna be in that five eleven six foot range?
Remember there's a lot of talk about Baker Mayfield and
whether he was gonna be over six ft tall or not,

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and that was that was a substantial factor. Or is
gonna be like five ten or five eleven, because frankly,
there just aren't that many guys of that height. Now,
Russell Wilson again is under six ft tall, but the
reason why he went in the third round was because
of his height. So I think this this decision making
shifts in a major way based on whether or not

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somebody you'll take Kyler Murray in the first round. If
you told me right now, would you rather have Lamar Jackson,
who went as the last overall pick. I believe, in
the first round, or Kyler Murray. I was more impressed
by Kyler Murray in terms of his ability to throw
a perfect ball than I was by Lamar Jackson, Which

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is why I'm saying the analogy I would draw as
to who Kyler Murray reminds me of is much more
of a Russell Wilson than it is of a Lamar Jackson.
Not to say Lamar Jackson can't down the road become
a good quarterback. I'm just skeptical that he's ever gonna
be good from the from the pocket, I think Lamar Jackson,
to me, having watched that entire Chargers game and a

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lot of his games this year, Lamar Jackson is a
flash in the running pan, much like we have seen
before with Tim Tebow, with r G three, with Vince Young.
These guys come in and they're really good in their
first year, and then eventually the NFL diagnoses what they
can't do well and forces them to make plays from

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the pocket, and they can't do it. And I thought
that's what the Chargers did against Lamar Jackson once we
actually got into the playoffs, the very end of that
Brown's game, second half, they figured out what Lamar Jackson
couldn't do, and then the Chargers followed that game plan.
And I think next year will be really difficult for
Lamar Jackson in terms of being consistent. Maybe I'm wrong.

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Maybe he's gonna develop in a way that Tim Tebow,
Vince Young and r G three didn't, and maybe he's
gonna demonstrate that he's something more than just a runner.
But I think Kyler Murray to me, projects a lot
more towards Russell Wilson than he does to Lamar Jackson.
So that leads us with the question, would you take Lamar?
Would you take Kyler Murray in the first round? Because

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I think the only way he chooses to go pro
in the NFL over Major League Baseball is if he's
a first round pick and he gets that kind of
guaranteed money. So eight seven, seven, six, three six nine,
Danny G You're on the clock, You're in the first round.

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You need a quarterback. Are you considering drafting Kyler Murray?
This is a tough one because I think he's more
likely to be a second round selection. So maybe if
you had a pick at the end of the first
round and you needed a really good, solid backup or
a guy that could learn behind your starter for the

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moment meant, then I would pick him. So see, I
think the risk and then it's a good and good
good analysis there. I think the risk is that he
might not go to the NFL at all. So I
think that's the challenge that NFL teams are gonna have
to weigh here, is if we're going to spend a
first round pick on a guy. You have to know

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that that guy is gonna come and show up and
be on your team. You can't take a first round
pick and have him not show up. The value of
a first round pick is too high. Yeah, And I
was looking here that the last player who went both
NFL and baseball was Brian Jordan's who played safety for
I think it was the Falcons, right, And that's the

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last guy that long it has been, I believe. And um,
obviously he played baseball for the Braves and the Cardinals.
Russell Wilson was drafted right, but it was more of
a gimmick thing during the UH spring training right for
the Yankees. I don't think he was a very high
round pick. I mean, I think that's the difference is
when you're when you feel like you potentially have first

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round talent in both UH in both baseball and in football.
And obviously Drew what was the court Drew Henson, UH,
he was insanely high pick in in both places and
ended up just kind of muddling around and never being
that good in either. Well, let me ask you this,
do you think that Kyler Murray could be like a
Teddy Bridgewater type player in the NFL, where he's a

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really good backup, which would also not interfere with him
still playing baseball because he is a special talent. If
anybody could play both sports, I think he could pull
it off. Yeah, I think the challenge with playing the
with both sports. I mean, Brian Jordans obviously did it.
Uh Dion Sanders did it back in the day, and
famously Bo Jackson did it back in the day. As

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we've seen so much specialization in the last twenty years
since those guys did it, that it would be almost
impossible to play both now. I think that uh, Kyler
Murray could get drafted in the first round, play but
football for four years, realized that he didn't have what
it took if that were the case, to play in
the NFL, not get his option picked up in the

(16:12):
fifth year, and still go back to baseball and feel
like he had a chance to potentially get drafted there.
I mean, look, Tim Tebow is probably, assuming he can
stay healthy, probably going to play Major League baseball this year.
And he didn't go back to play baseball, and and
he didn't play at all in in college. He hadn't

(16:33):
played since high school. And he's gonna go to the
major leagues. Now, Tebow is a different caliber athlete, but
he didn't go start playing baseball until what twenty eight
or twenty nine years old? So if Kyler Murray decided
to go back to baseball at twenty four or five,
I still think he would have the potential if he's
that good, to end up as a baseball player, even

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if he didn't work out as an NFL player. Let
me bring up Eddie Garcia. We're about to get an
update for you. But first, Eddie, if you were advising
Kyler Murray, what would you advise him to do Major
League Baseball versus NFL. Well, I would definitely advise him
to find out what exactly NFL teams think about him
and declare for the NFL draft and and see what

(17:15):
the feedback is and ultimately where he's drafted. I mean,
it's about options, right having making the best They're having
the best options available before you make a decision. So
if he has a better option in football then in baseball,
then he needs to he need he Here's here's what
I would say about that. It can't be to see
what his options are. If you want to play football,

(17:38):
you need to come out and say I'm a hundred
percent committed to playing football next year. I will play.
Uh if I am drafted in the first round, you know,
just be as straightforward and honest as you possibly can be,
because if you're like, oh, I just want to see
where I'm gonna be drafted, then that's gonna knock down
your draft stocks substantially, which would lead you to make

(17:59):
the decision to go into Major League Baseball, where you
already know you've been a first round pick. And so
I think if he's deciding to go into the draft
in the NFL, he has to come out directly and
say not only publicly, but also to all the teams
that are contemplating him, I will go play for you
in the NFL. I want to be an NFL quarterback.

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It's my dream. And if you draft me in the
first round, I will be there. Because no GM is
gonna risk his job on taking Kyler Murray in the
first round and then see Kyler Murray say, hey, you
know what, I've decided to play baseball instead. That's how
you get fired if you're a GM. If that happens,
I'll open up the phone lines again. Eight seven seven

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nine six three six nine, Eddie Garcia, What you got
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(19:01):
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Geico Outkicks studios where we've got the pole question that
is up in thousands of you rolling in and again,
I think that there's a lot of laziness in terms
of the analysis here because seventy nine percent of people
are saying I'd advise him to go play major league baseball.
But I think Kyler Murray, when you consider his individual circumstances,
may have a better chance to make big money and

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play at a high level in the NFL than he
would in Major league Baseball. Again, first round draft picks
and Kyler Murray went number nine overall in the Major
League Baseball draft. First round draft picks and made league
baseball have a sixty six percent chance of actually making
it to the major leagues. So there's at least a
one in three chance that Kyler Murray would never play

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major league baseball. On top of that, historically, only half
less than half forty six percent of all first round
draft picks in major League Baseball ever play for three
years or longer. If you are a first round pick
in the NFL, you are guaranteed four years of money.

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So arguably a first round draft pick in the NFL
has a better career than a first round pick does
in Major league baseball. Also, when you consider that you
are playing the quarterback position, the odds of a serious
injury diminish appreciably and you have a good chance if

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you get signed that four year guaranteed deal, to also
get your fifth year picked up, which could mean that
you would make around fifty mill million dollars in your
first five years playing UH NFL football, which is more
than you would make theoretically in your first five years
playing Major league baseball. Now, if you end up being

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one of the best players in the history of your
draft class, then you could maybe make more money in
the UH in Major league baseball. But I think if
I'm sitting around making an offer to Kyler Murray, the
play is one hundred percent to go into the NFL
draft and try to be a first round draft pick

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at the quarterback position, particularly because this is a relatively
weak NFL draft quarterback class. You've got Dwayne Haskins, You've
got Drew Lock, You've got the guy from Duke, You've
got Will Greer. I'm not sure that any of those
guys are going to set the world on fire when

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it comes to people taking chances with with being high
draft picks with them. We've got a couple of calls
I'm gonna hit here. But first, Dub, what would you
advise him to do? I mean, I'm surprised by the
poll results because it's to me, it's not even it's
a no brainer. I would go NFL because if you
look at that, the numbers make it. If you break
that down even more, he's a college position player getting drafted.

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Less than seventeen percent of those guys in his categories
more specifically, make the Major League Baseball. So that's actually,
that's actually a really good point. I'm looking at the
at that data right now, college position players going in
the first round. I should have broken it down even
more as opposed to just just that scenario only what
is it, uh, twenty percent of those players um end up?

(23:42):
What is it, seventeen percent of those players play in
the major leagues. If you are a college position player
drafted into UH, that's wild. That that's pretty wild. Seventeen
percent of them UM end up playing in the major leagues,
and only cent of them play in the majors for

(24:05):
three plus years. So I don't know. I mean, I
I just look at this in general and say, I
don't know necessarily that that's a that those are odds
that I would feel very good about UM in general. Now,
I do think to be fair, the way to look
at this more accurately is played in the major leagues
and played in the major leagues for three plus years.

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Even then, if you're just throwing out positions and everything else,
less than half of all first round picks end up
playing for three plus years in the major leagues, whereas
almost a hundred percent of first rounders in the NFL
get four plus get four years guaranteed under their contracts.

(24:47):
Then the team has a fifth year option. Now. So again,
Jamis Winston is a good example. He's the first guy
to go through and be picked up on this fifth
year option. He's gonna make nearly fifty million dollars for
playing NFL football for uh for four or five years now.
Jamis Winston also played baseball with the Florida State Seminoles.

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I think the rules are different if you are in
the position of being a potential franchise quarterback. I think
it just changes things up in a substantial way. Let
me get a couple of your calls. Let me go
to Brandon in California. What's up, Brandon? Uh? Yeah, I'm
just curious with to where Scott Borris plays in all this.
Obviously he's a spaceball agent. If he signs up football contract,

(25:32):
is he getting any of that money because as far
as I understand, he has to pay back the money
less the taxes. If he signs an NFL contract, Yeah,
you get all the money guaranteed. If you're a first
round draft pick in the NFL, you'd have to theoretically
pay back your your college uh draft pick money that
you got to play Major league baseball. But I mean

(25:54):
that's what two and a half million dollars maybe you'd
have to put play payback. And if you're a high
draft pick in the NFL, you get guaranteed millions. So
he's if you're just looking at it from a pure
dollars and since perspective right now, if he were drafted
in the first round, he would end up with more money.
David in Houston? What's up? David? Hey, what's up? Play? Um? Well,

(26:17):
I mean I think you hit it right in the spot. Man.
You know, I think the NFL is gonna be the
best thing for him to do. Uh, you know, perfect example.
I know you guys use Jameis Winston. I mean you've
got Marcus Harryotta and tennesse See right now and being
a Tridus fan, I mean, if they pick up a
fifth year option, he's guaranteed what twenty one twenty two mil?

(26:38):
You know, And I mean the Tennessee really want to
pay this guy that money? Or do they? You know
that JB want to take the chances on ticking Okyler
Murray's kind of like Lamar Jackson take for the last
take in the first round. You know, the question is,
like you said, is he gonna play football? So I

(26:58):
mean that's gonna be the biggest much in going into
the draft. Yeah, look, I appreciate the call. Jamis Winston
and Marcus Mariota have both had their fifth year options
picked up, so both of them are gonna make in
the neighborhood of forty five or fifty million dollars in
the first five years. That they played in the NFL,
and if they are able to do well in the
year five, then they would make twenty million plus per

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year going forward over the next five to seven years.
So you're talking about guys who could make a hundred
and fifty million dollars in the first ten years that
they play. And I think that's underrated because I don't
think people have recognized how high quarterback salaries are becoming.
If you can prove to yourself or prove that you're

(27:43):
a top twenty quarterback in the NFL, you're gonna make
well in excess of a hundred million dollars in your career.
I don't know if Kyler Murray could prove that, but
if he's the next Russell Wilson, he'd be worth it.
Be sure to catch live editions about Kicked the coverage
with Clay Travis weekdays at six am Eastern, three A
and Pacific. Let me bring up Mark Schlareth. Mark, I
want to start with the the story that's kind of

(28:05):
buzzing around the nation this morning, and I think it's
such a fascinating one because there are a lot of
different ways to go with it, and I know we've
talked about Major League Baseball versus the NFL with you
before So Kyler Murray, According to the San Francisco Chronicle, Uh,
the A's are preparing for him to declare for the NFL. UM,
if you were advising Kyler Murray, what would you tell

(28:29):
him to do or to think about? Um in terms
of making a decision about whether or not to declare
for the NFL draft versus Major League Baseball? Well, I think,
first off, clare I would just tell him, Hey, where
do you think you're gonna get drafted? What is the
what is the hype or what are the is the buzz?
And you know there is such a dearth of quarterbacks
coming out this year in the in the in the draft,

(28:51):
the college draft, that most people and people I've talked
to think that he's going to go late in the
first round. Somebody's gonna take a flyer on him. So
now you think about the juxtaposition of baseball versus football,
and everybody thinks that baseball is, Oh my gosh, you're
gonna make so much money, you're gonna stay healthy, YadA, YadA, YadA.
So he's got four point whatever million dollars that he

(29:12):
has already signed for if he accepts that and goes
to the Oakland A's, if he gets drafted late in
the first round, he's gonna make eleven twelve million dollars. Now,
after you make that four and a half million dollars,
understand that you're not gonna get paid again for another
five years. So you're gonna go to the minor leagues
for three or four years if you happen to make
it to the major leagues. Then once you get to

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the major leagues, you have to have three years of
service three point whatever or four point whatever years of
service before you become arbitration eligible. So there's another year
of arbitration, which is negotiated between you and the team.
And usually, you know, they throw out a number. You
threw out a number, and and they either accept it
or they don't accept it, and you know, somewhere in
the middle, um and I'm not. You know, that's kind

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of how arbitration works. So there's another year and you're
gonna make what one, two million dollars whatever whatever it
is that you're gonna make. That's kind of based on
what other players in your position make UM on an average.
So you maybe six seven years before you actually get
a contract, and you know, nobody knows as better than

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I do, because my son was a first round pick,
went straight to the major leagues after seven weeks in
the miners, and you know, and and and pitched in
the majors for for parts of four seasons before Torres
labor him. And and he's been bouncing around the miners
ever since. And he's like three weeks away from being
arbitration eligible and hasn't really made any money. Sense. So, like,

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if you're gonna get twelve and a half the thirteen
million dollars to sign as a first round pick, like
you've already made more money and now you're onto your
second contract. Even if you fail in professional baseball, if
you're a first round pick at the quarterback position, you're
already gonna make more money than you're gonna make in baseball.
The odds the odds of you getting that, you know,

(30:58):
that arbitration year and then getting a big contract that
to that in baseball, it's so competitive. I just think
that football is going to give you the best chance
to make the most money um in the shortest time span.
So I think the San Francisco Chronicles, right, I think
that he didn't really have a choice. If he's gonna
be a first round he's got to go to the NFL.
That's a really sophisticated answer that I think flies in

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the face of a lot of people who think, oh,
baseball is less taxing on your body. I want to
build on that a little bit with you. But I'm
reading from Baseball America right now, and I tweeted out
this link, which I would encourage people to read, uh
if they're kind of debating this story. Uh. And and
this paragraph says, if Murray gets drafted anywhere in the
first round, he will earn this is the NFL, in

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the first round, he will earn somewhere between two and
seven times as much money over the next five years
in football as he will in baseball. If Murray is
even an average NFL quarterback, he will make more than
he will as anything other than in all All Star outfielder,
which is pretty pretty wild to think about. Again, I

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think a lot of people don't contemplate this in a
very intelligent fashion because they don't run through all the
parameters like that. And by the way, you talked about
your son being a first round pick, Historically, only two
thirds of first round picks ever make the major leagues,
and only forty six percent of first round picks in
the Major League Baseball Draft ever last for three or

(32:26):
longer years. It's just hard. I mean, I don't think
people factor in how difficult minor league lifestyle can be
in terms of ever making it to the major leagues
at all. Yeah, the minor leagues. I mean you're on
busses and it wears you down, and you know you're playing.
I mean, you know, you you get on a bus
and let's say you've got, you know, some nagging injuries. Well,
you get done playing a game, it's eleven o'clock at night,

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you jump on a bus, you drive all night, eleven
hours to the next city. You get up, you sleep
for a couple of hours in the hotel that they
get you there. It's a crappy little hotel, and then
you get up and you're back at the baseball fields
two o'clock in the afternoon. Have a back injury, or
have a hip injury, or have a groin how do
you think that's ever gonna get treated and get better
during the course of minor league season? And then they're like, hey, man,

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he really didn't play that well this year, and the
next thing, you know, there are you know, there's a
ton of kids that are getting drafted, a ton of
kids that are getting into baseball. They get in right
out of high school, to get in out of college.
Then you've got all the Dominican players and all the
you know, and all the players from around the world
that are coming in. Um. I mean, it is an
incredibly difficult journey to get to the big leagues. And

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let's face it, if you look at big league rosters,
there are two or three guys making you know, nine
of the money everybody else is, you know, is league minimum,
which is about five hundred, five hundred fifty thousand dollars.
That's a lot of money. And I'm not I'm not,
you know, I'm not like pooh pooing that my mint
of money. But the odds of you getting it, um,

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and the odds of you being an All star, like
it just is, it's just an incredibly tough journey, um,
to make it into the major leagues and to stay there,
to have the sticking power. You're one injury away. And
and let's face it, the other thing is, and you know,
my son's a picture. Every guy coming out of high school,
every guy coming out through uh, you know, different countries,

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is throwing a hundred miles an hour, you know. I mean,
it's like arm talent is ridiculous coming out in baseball
right now. Everybody does it. So it's just a really
hard journey. I just know it, you know. I mean,
I've lived it. I've lived it for the last eleven
years with my kid. It's a hard journey. And he's
still you know, he's still grinding away. So it just

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is a hard journey. We're talking to Mark Slayer at
breaking down NFL versus Major League Baseball, probably as well
as anybody could do it, his son, major League Baseball,
first round draft pick and obviously long term NFL player.
Let's go into the divisional round of the NFL playoffs.
I don't know if you know this stat, mark, but
in the last fifteen NFL playoff games, the underdog has

(34:54):
covered in fourteen of them. All right, that if you
just blindly beat the underdog the last fifteen NFL playoff games,
you would have won fourteen of those bets, which is wild.
Do you think that momentum for underdogs will continue as
we roll into the divisional round of the playoffs. And
if you do, who do you like the Colts, the Cowboys,

(35:17):
the Chargers, or the Eagles on the road to potentially
pull off upsets. Well, you know, I think the Colts
are really interesting. They're really interesting matchup to me. I mean,
I'll go back to the wild Card for a second.
You know what's funny about the whole wild Card weekend
is that you show me. You know, we get so
enamored by being able to throw the ball and all

(35:39):
the kind of spread offense and you know, all the
kind of ridiculous numbers that we've put up over the
course of the season. And the interesting thing to me
is when push comes to shove, football hasn't changed at all.
When you talk about lines of scrimmage. Every team that
captured and won the line of scrimmage, every team that

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whipped the ass of the other team up front. One
in wild Card weekend, the Colts beat the snot out
of Houston up front, they get they get a victory.
The Chargers did it to Baltimore victory. I mean, the
Cowboys did it victory And it's the way it went.
And when you look at these teams, I like the

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Colts in in Kansas City. I think one thing, and
I've been there where I'm you know, I've been in
the playoffs many times, and I've been that number one
seed many times. Especially as an offensive player. It is
hard and and as rhythmic as the Chiefs are on offense.
When you take that week off, yeah, you get fresh,

(36:43):
but you missed the timing of your offense. You missed
the timing of of playing together and the rhythmic nature
that is playing the offensive side of the ball, especially
when you base your offense on throwing the football. Um,
it is hard to get that rhythm. And I've been
a number one seed where I've lost. You know that

(37:03):
I've lost in that divisional round of the playoffs. So
I like the Colts. I like the Chargers on the road, um,
you know, I like what they do from the defensive
end position. And boy, they took that Baltimore offense that
has been just outstanding, just crazy good, and and they
just hog tied them. It was unbelievable. And Gus uh

(37:24):
uh Gus Bradley, their defensive coordinator, switching, taking all the
linebackers out and playing all dps. He was in seven
dbs at times playing dvs as middle linebackers. They just
did a phenomenal job of game planning the Baltimore Ravens
and and then you just saw Lamar Jackson and the
inadequate seas of throwing the football how they came to,
you know, to really cost that football team. Um, so

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I like them as well. The Cowboys. I think I'll
go Saints because I think the Saints offensive line wise,
I think they're outstanding. But that's gonna be a great
matchup because the Cowboys do a phenomenal job on both
defensive and offensive lines of scrimmage. So, um, you know,
I I think I'll take uh, I'll think I'll take Well,
the Saints are playing the Eagles, but I'll take the

(38:08):
Saints there. And the Cowboys are the ones, Um, the
Cowboys are the ones that give me a little bit
of pause. Uh wait wait, do I have that right
or I have that wrong? The Eagles have the Saints right,
the Cowboys with the Cowboys. Cowboys are on the road
against the Rams. Yeah the Rams, Yeah yeah, the Cowboys. Yeah,
I screwed that one up. But the Cowboys, the Cowboys,

(38:31):
I like, I give them a great shot of going
to Los Angeles and beating the Rams. So I tell
you what, it's just the underdog thing that you talked about.
I would I would do that. But um, those lines
of scrimmage are are what won those wild card games.
And that's what I'm looking at this week to going
into these divisional rounds. What do you think about I
know you've got a lot of connections in Denver. What

(38:53):
do you think about the Broncos head coaching higher um,
and what do you think about Kubayak coming back as
an offensive coordinator? It? Well, listen, you know I'll never like.
I love Gary Kuback. He's a good friend of mine.
And Gary, you know it was my offensive coordinator, so
I absolutely love him. And you know when people say, well,
you know, the game has changed so much and we

(39:13):
we need to evolve, and I had such a bunch
of hogwash. Um, it just is it's crazy to me. Like,
you know, you look at Arizona and you're hiring Cliff Kingsbury. Like,
wait a minute, Cliff Kingsbury win thirty five and forty
in the Big twelve where they don't play defense. You
took over Mike Leach's football team. You had a good season,

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you won a bowl game and you haven't won since.
And oh, by the way, you had Patrick Mahomes, you
coached him to a five and seven season, and your
last two bowl games was I think it was the
Texas Bowl and the Birmingham Bowl, and you lost both
of them. And the only reason I know to go
to Birmingham is to have surgery at Dr James Andrew Way.
So like, I like, I like, I don't get you know,

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this fascination with oh, he's a young innovator. Guess what
playoff football had nothing to do with innovation, had to
do with who kicked who's ass. That's what it came
down to. And so like the innovation for everybody, I
you know, I call games every week, like and so
I'm I'm putting fifty hours of film study a week
into the to the to the UH the two teams

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that I'm calling. You know what, everybody runs the same
crap right, everybody gets in a three by one formation.
They run all goes special, which is everybody runs go routes.
One guy runs an over route, right, everybody runs it.
Everybody runs a curl flat combination, everyone runs a slap
flat combination. Everyone runs what they call lion or double slants.

(40:39):
You know, I mean it's it's not rocket science like
and and the thing is the good coordinators, the guys
who are evolving the game. The guys figure out what
defense you're gonna play in what situation based upon what
you what you played in the first quarter. And they
had just a route, they had just you know, one
guy's route based on the way to safety's playing are

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based on the way the corners playing. And they get
you for a big play, you know, they get you
for a twenty two yards explosive. That's that's the evolution.
Other than that, man, you can look at anybody's filming.
Everybody runs the same stuff. So your fascination with oh
my god, you know this guy that we hired, he
I once I heard he got some McVeigh on him. Yeah,
they were in the shower together and he got some

(41:20):
McVey on him. So let's hire that guy, right shoot,
I called three grams games. I fis bumped McVeigh. I
should be a head coach. I just like, it's it's
mind boggling to me. The only thing I don't like
about the higher in Denver is that it came and
a lot of teams do this now, so it's not

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just Denver, but it came with hey, you're gonna be
the head coach, but here's your assistance. And I think automatically,
when you do that, you you emasculate the head coach
from a player's perspective. You're saying, hey, here's your head coach, guys,
but he's not truly empowered. He's the head coach that

(42:03):
we appointed, but we didn't empower him because he has
saddled with all the assistance that we already had because
we don't want to pay new assistance, and so he's
already behind the eight ball. He's already happy, he already
has to overcome the fact that you haven't truly empowered him.
And you know, we've seen it. We saw at work
in Indianapolis with Frank Bright this year and he did

(42:23):
a phenomenal job. They started out one in five, but
he did an incredible job. But I think it's a
hard thing to do. It's a hard thing to be
saddled that way, um to start, and so that would
be my biggest concern. We're talking to Mark Hilaire, if
only he had some opinions. Um, when you look at
the Patriots. I'm breaking him down. They lost five games

(42:44):
to non playoff teams this year. On average, in the
Brady Belichick era, they lost a one point eight games
a year to non playoff teams. They've never lost two
more than three ever in the Brady Belichick era. Have
the wheels started to come off? Or do you think
the Chargers are not ready to take the next step

(43:05):
and actually win a game this big Well, I tell
you what I think. I think the Chargers are ready. Um,
it's gonna be interesting if you go back to last season.
I think it was last season. Um, and I'm you know,
I'm going back into my mind watching film. But last season,
I think they played the Chargers, that New England played
the Chargers, and um, they just absolutely cut them up. Now,

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Gus Bradley is a guy that's gonna play you know, uh,
cover three. That's essentially they based out of that old,
that old Seattle system. So it's a matchup cover three.
And so the weakness of that is you're flat like
the flats. So when you go back and you can
go back and look at this, I think the running

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backs caught fourteen passes in that game for probably a
hundred and fifty and sixty yards. And I'm just going
back to the film study that I that I watched
and that I remember. And so anytime you play cover three,
you run the corners off deep. You know, they gotta
run their third their deep third defenders. So your your curl,
your curl flat defender has got to get twelve yards depth,

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you know. So he's going twelve yards deep, and then
you dump into the running back. Now he's got to
come up and make a tackle on that running back.
So it's a real weakness of that particular coverage, and
that's what they want to sit in the whole time.
And so you know, they cut them up a year ago,
um and one against the Chargers. So that's something they're
gonna have to contend with. They're gonna have to play

(44:35):
some different variations. Otherwise Brady'll just take that and they
go up and down the field with those running backs.
I assume Gus Bradley will change that. But um, I
just don't think it's the same Patriots, you know, I
just don't think they have the same depth of talent
defensively or offensively. And and I think the Chargers, like
I think They're an incredibly talented football team on the

(44:56):
defensive side of the ball. Um, and of course you've
got Philip Rivers, and I think we've got one of
the underrated wide receiving cores in football. I think Tena
Allen is just at football plant Jesse Um. He is
an unbelievably tough cover and he kind of sets an
attitude and you don't get it very often from the
receiver position or the receivers actually setting the offensive attitude.

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He does that for them adequate upfront. So I think
the Chargers have a great chance of going to New
England and winning a playoff game. Outstanding stuff. As always,
Mark Schlareth. We will talk with you hopefully next week
break down the divisional games. Appreciate you joining us here,
my man anytime. Buddy. Be sure to catch live editions
about Kicked the coverage with Clay Travis weekdays. At six

(45:38):
am Eastern three am Pacific Tuesday, I was flying back
from h from Oakland from the Bay Area to Nashville
and my phone suddenly blew up because I had been
savagely attacked by Rachel Bonetta, the host of our locket
In television show. The airing four thirty Eastern, three thirty

(45:59):
Central to thirty Mountain one thirty Pacific. Set your DVRs
or turn on your televisions during the day and check
us out. This guy is on with us, but first
Todd Ferman, but first Rachel Bonetta. This aired on Tuesday.
I was savagely attacked. This is what it sounded like.
We are going to do our approval rating for Clay

(46:20):
bringing up here. Okay, so okay, I've always wanted to
do this character. We've got it too, because that's hot,
it's right John performance. I think we can all agree
that that sits at zero. He's putting bad at betting authenticity.
I get what twenty two because he's he's a terrible person,

(46:41):
but he owns up to it, right, he owns it.
And then the mustache rating negative three seventy two. I
think we can all agree on that. And I'm ster fire,
So what do you think? I just think, well, we
could add goat status at like thirties seven because he,
out of all of us, smells most like a goat
when he was there, we go that was an attack

(47:01):
by by primarily Rachel Bonetta up on me. And if
you're not familiar with the priests that like the idea there. Uh.
Jason Whitlock, who was sitting in for me on the show,
they do approval ratings on his show with Marcellus Wiley.
Speak for yourself and you get ranked on a scale
of one to five. So I was given a two

(47:22):
for character, I was given a zero for job performance
and a minus whatever it was three seventy three for
my mustache, um Todd Ferman. I didn't hear you talking
during that. I'm assuming that was because you felt like
I was being viciously attacked like Nancy Carrigan style by
Tanya Harding. That's kind of the way that I would
analogize this. That had absolutely nothing to do with it.

(47:44):
I just wasn't privy to some of the pre show discussions.
So this was carefully calculated, meticulously planned, uh, and more
importantly executed with the utmost precision by the talented panelists
and hosted Rachel and cousin stal doing the dirty work
for you in your absence. But that's what happens when
you take off days, Clay, you go to watch Alabama
get absolutely invistrated by Clemson every which way. Monday night,

(48:08):
you willlect to use Tuesday as a travel day. I
apparently remain the only iron Man that has appeared on
every single episode of Locket instance our show debut in
early September. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Bragg Bragg, Bragg so um
when you when you look so. I don't know if
you know this, but Danny G, Danny G. Come up
here for a second. Danny G has a huge crush
on Rachel Vanetta. Do you remember. Do we still have

(48:30):
the audio of Banetta reacting to my telling you, Danny
G that she had that that that you had a
crush on her. Yeah, I think so. I think Roberto's
pulling that up right now. All right, we're gonna pull
up the audio. If you haven't heard it, I don't
even I know you were on the show, since you
are an iron Man Furman, But you don't know Danny
G personally, but you can hear him talking here. What
do you think his chances are with Banetta? You know

(48:51):
what I Rachel has been in a long term relationship
with her boyfriend Pete, who hasn't actually come to grace
us with his presence for years. Reel. Danny's gonna have
to be a little bit of a home wrecker there,
and I think Danny is a stronger man of character,
unlike you, who scored a two on the approval rating.
So I don't really like Danny's chances to really consummate

(49:11):
his relationship with Rachel. I got a two on the character.
Do we have me letting Vanetta know that Danny G
has a crush on her? Yeah, all right, here's that
audio to get on a roll. The Raiders get the
big wine. I think the Raiders can extend their role
even though they're now at the very bottom three intent.
I like betting on the Raiders going forward. My guy,
Danny G. Says they're playing well. And by the way, Vanetta,
not to give you a compliment, but he's an absolute

(49:33):
love with you. He asked about you all the time.
He's watching right now. Well, that is uncomfortable. So things
going well. That's the early start of their relationship. There
hasn't been much progress since, but there is now a
Chick fil A. You could invite her, Danny G. To
go to Chick fil A with you. Yeah, And ever
since you did that on the TV show, she has
been following me on Twitter and liking my posts. So

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that's how it starts start game. I mean, we're seeing
a budding relationship with Jalen Hurts in the Miami Hurricanes
is such as well, So you never know when push
comes to shove, how these things ultimately unfold. Yeah, you
know what that is interesting. So we haven't talked about
this yet, but Jalen Hurts is now in the transfer portal,
which is just an amazing phrase, by the way, the

(50:16):
transfer portal as if he's gonna get beamed up somewhere
back in the day on Star Trek. So, but he
has started following Manny Diaz and several of the University
of Miami football players, meaning that maybe the Hurricanes are
potentially the destination point. Yeah, and I think when you
look at Miami going through changing in the guard of
Manny Diaz taking over from Mark Direc, do you want

(50:38):
some of that experience instability? And even if Jalen Hurts
isn't known for being a vertical passer, uh, their quarterback
play was nothing short of abhorrent down the stretch with
Malik Rozier and Nicosey Perry really struggling. So you know,
good things for Jalen Hurts, who stuck it out could
have easily transferred and left Alabama. You'd like to see
him finish his college career somewhere where you could at
least be the primary signal color. How what is his

(50:59):
value you like? If you like Miami, I think is
the most average team in college football next year? Right there?
Probably a seven and five, eight and four at best
type team next year. How much is he worth on
win totals, if anything? And how much would he be
worth on a point total for an average team like
a Miami. He's not moving the needle at all. I
think he just gives us some of that stability experience

(51:21):
in championship pedigree under center, but who knows if he's
even gonna actually win the job out of camp. I mean,
we saw a similar scenario in full of years ago,
not with the national championship caliber quarterback, but whenever Golson
left Notre Dame, went down to Florida State, was given
the job and never really performed to a high level.
You mentioned mediocrity, and I think that Miami is kind
of the poster child for that. But the entire Coastal

(51:44):
Division may fall into that particular bucket. So it's gonna
be very interesting to see how where a lot of
these talents signal callers ultimately end up. We know justin
Fields headed to Ohio State. UH, and it's still Clemson
in Alabama. When you look at the odds to win
the National Championship play, I think everybody's just kind of
playing for third and fourth place. All right, So let's
go into the divisional round NFL playoff games this weekend.

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You are a professional gambler. When you see that fifteen
different NFL games the last fifteen, that fourteen times the
underdog has won. Does that make you feel like the
market is getting something fundamentally wrong in setting these numbers?
Is it a total aberration? How do you deal with
fourteen and one the underdogs against the number in the

(52:28):
last fifteen. I think it's more anomaly than anything else.
When you look at the way the playoff games have
unfolded over the last you know, fifteen games sample size
that you mentioned last postseason, underdogs going ten and one,
uh and the eleven games we saw that mattered most Ultimately,
if you believe in an efficient market, you will see
some regression. But I think the public is latched onto

(52:49):
those betting trends. You look at the four games that
are going to be played this weekend in the public
backing every single underdog, which if we had this discussion
as recently as three to five years ago, I think
would have been something mind boggling to me. And then
if we go one step further and we look at
underdogs off seven points or more in the divisional playoff
round play over the last twenty six games, we've seen

(53:11):
those teams go and two. So you've seen parodies start
to reign supreme teams that come into this round with
a little bit of momentum and maybe ultimately some firepower
that allow them to stay inside the number. But I
wouldn't let that impact The way you're handicapping is these
football games Saturday and Sunday, one by one. Kind of
treat each one like it's in a vacuum. If you

(53:31):
have been to gravitate towards the underdog, great, uh. If not,
don't be afraid to lay the points as a situation necessitates.
If you had to pick one underdog to pull off
the upset and win outright, it would be who for
the divisional round of the playoffs. For me, I actually,
the more I poked around late last night, I think
Dallas would be the one underdog that I would make
a compelling case for, knowing that they have the pieces

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offensively and Ezekiel Elliott to run against the Rams defense
that has struggled against ground and pound rushing attack throughout
the course of the season, and a defense right now
that is the best army points per game standpoint in
the yards per game allowed of any of the eight
remaining playoff teams capable of stymying Jared Goffin and offense
that other than the last two games against the Rams
and forty Niners, looked pretty pedestrian down the stretch, especially

(54:16):
since Todd Gurley's effectiveness was limited and Cooper Cup was
lost for the season. Dallas could have a little home
field advantage in my opinion, working for them at the Coliseum,
I think the Cowboys would be the underdog most capable
of pulling off the alright upset. What about in terms
of over unders and everything else in these games? Do
you lean towards the under? Do you lean towards the over?

(54:37):
How do you play these games? Especially because it seems
like defenses have remerged, emerged back ascendant after all the
attention that fifty one game got it doesn't really feel like, uh,
like the NFL in this postseason is any different than
the NFL in the postseason has been the last fifteen
or twenty years. Well, I think things could change a

(54:59):
little bit this week. And you have some of the
most explosive offenses in the league, uh in the Saints,
in the Chiefs, and in the Rams in New England,
all block playing football games that weren't on display last weekend.
And you have the experienced quarterbacks you need to be
able to put up points. We've seen how quarterbacks making
their playoff debut have struggled. We'll see if Patrick Mahomes

(55:19):
can kind of shed that particular underachiever tag that we've
grown accustomed to from that particular position. But if I'm
looking at totals, I think the Chargers in New England,
game that's gonna be played in temperatures most likely in
the high twenties, could be a little bit more defensive
mind than anybody wants to give him credit for. I
know you chronicled how well this Chargers defense has performed,
not necessarily just in recent weeks, but all season long,

(55:41):
and the credit that they haven't rightfully received. Knowing that
they have a talented pass rush and Joey boast in
Melvin Ingram a secondary more than capable of handling its own.
Philadelphia New Orleans. For me, I think could be the
most wide open football game you dig into Philadelphia. You
have some major question marks about that secondary and the
one thing that the Eagles offense will have working in

(56:01):
their favorite Nick Foles over the last month has had
one of the quickest release from snap to getting a
ball out of his hands at less than two and
a half seconds than any quarterback. He's gonna need that
in hostile territory and a Saints pass rush more than
capable of making his life difficult. That would be the game.
I think that could be the highest scoring, and I
could see why people want to go over the total
of fifty and a half fifty one. When you look

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at at the overall odds to win the Super Bowl,
do you agree that the Saints should be a prohibitive
favorite right now, regardless of what might I mean? Obviously
we know there are eight point favorites over the Eagles.
You shared that number about how teams favored by over
a touchdown have done and if they would get the
Rams or the Cowboys. They would be a substantial favorite

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over that team as well. Are the Saints the prohibitive
favorite in the NFC? They are when you look at
how well they've performed in home games since Drew Brees
took over that franchise five and oh in that particular spot,
averaging more than thirty five points per game. And that's
one of the more electric environments you're going to find
in the NFL, especially this time of year. You have
to go all the way back too, with Bobby A.

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Bear is the starting quarterback to find the last time
the Saints lost a home playoff game. Now, of course
they didn't play a ton of them from when Bobby A.
Bear lost that game until Drew Brees took over. But
I like what they have defensively. I love their veteran
leadership and Clay who can argue with a head coach
that brings the Lombardi Trophy into the locker room, brings
in two dollars in cash to try and motivate his team.

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And let me tell a lot of listeners, two hundred
thousand dollars in cash, it's not this major duffel bag.
You could probably grab that with two handfuls. But apparently
it's a motivational tactic that John Payton's choosing to employ.
And I don't think the New Orleans Saints will be
complacent knowing that they beat this team by forty one
points no more than two months ago. All right, let's
go and say that the Colts pull off the upset

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and the Chargers pull off the upset. If that works
to occur, then then that then the a f C
Championship game would theoretically be played in a soccer stadium
in l A. What would the line look like in
a game between Chargers and the Colts in l A.
You'd be looking at the Chargers right around a three
to three and a half point favorite in that particular

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football game. But well, what's interesting in that, and I
haven't done any research the contingency plan originally put in place,
is that they almost wanted the Chargers to play their
game in the Colosseum because the NFL said playing at
the StubHub Center wouldn't be a large enough venue for
a game of that magnitude. So I'm very curious to
see how the NFL will elect to handle it, because,
as you mentioned, the seating capacity nowhere close to what

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you've grown accustomed to, but you'd be looking at the
chargers right around that field goal threshold. All right, good
stuff as always, Todd Ferman, You'll be making picks with
me on Lock It In. Four thirty Eastern, three thirty
Central to thirty Mountain one Pacific. Be honest, are you
surprised they haven't canceled our show yet? Hey, I'm surprised
they didn't cancel our show after about two weeks of

(58:50):
some of the comments coming out of your mouth and
cousin South, I gotta be the one that keeps it
on the street and narrow Rachel has to be the
one to apologize. So every day we get to go
back on the air, I feel as a blessing. I
just want to make sure that you're gonna be okay
and the man crush that you have on James Harden
is going to be able to persevere through last night's
tumultuous outcome against the Buck. Yeah, that was tough. I'm

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in I'm in deep shape, deep almost a curse there.
I'm in deep trouble when it comes to trying to
build build my way back up to defend my crown
by the way, if you were setting odds on Kyler
Murray going into the NFL Draft right now, prohibitive favorite
that he does in fact announce, Oh for for sure.
I think it's a formality now you look at him
going through all of the policies and procedures he needs

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to the fact the open A said they expect him
to declare the bigger question if I was going to
set the over under on where Kyler Murray got drafted
at twelve and a half, do you think he goes
in the top twelve picks or do you think he
goes in the latter stages of the first round. I
don't think he goes top twelve, but I do think
he goes in the first round, so I would go
under on twelve and a half. Good stuff as always,
Todd Ferman, Go follow him, watch him on television with

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