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after many of you went to bed. Uh Texas takes
down your jack. Pretty fascinating Bowl season so far. If

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you believe that we don't need a playoff at all,
and there is a contingent of people out there that says,
you know what, college football playoffs completely unnecessary, and if
that contingent is out there listening right now, and they say, hey,
you know what we need is still the BCS. There's
no need at all for a four team playoff, much

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less than eight team playoff. There's been a lot of
discussion in this offseason after the Big Ten was left
out of the playoff, after the Pac twelve is left
out of the playoff, about whether or not the playoff
needs to expand. This is pretty fascinating outcomes so far
in this offseason, this bowl season. For those who believe

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that the college football Playoff is perfectly fine as it is,
Alabama and Clemson are gonna play on Monday in Santa
Clara for the national championship. They the Tide did Crimson
Tide easily beat Oklahoma and Clemson easily beat Notre Dame.
Notre Dame was your number three, Clemson was your number four.

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But it doesn't start and stop there. The fifth best
team in college football ball according to the Committee, Georgia
just lost. The sixth best team according to College Football lost,
the seventh best team according to College Football lost, the

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eighth best team according to College Football lost, and the
ninth best team according to College Football also lost. Think
about that for a minute. Alabama and Clemson, both thirteen
and OH playing against each other to see which one

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can go to fourteen and OH and become our best
team ever. Sorry, both fourteen and OH playing against each
other to see can become our first ever fifteen and
OH team. They both won, and they both won easily.
Notre Dame beaten soundly, Oklahoma beaten soundly, Georgia beaten soundly.

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It's pretty wild to to run through all of this
roster and see everything that happened. I give you one
of one mistake there, Ohio State one. But they weren't
that impressive down the stretch, closing out Washington in the
Rose Bowl, Michigan lost and Central Florida. Michigan was seven.
Central Florida was eight, Washington was nine. So every team

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outside of Ohio State at six lost its bowl game.
And I don't think there are a lot of people
out there that are looking at these results and saying, hey,
you know what, I think we need a larger playoff.
Now there's also the anti SEC contingent, and I think
this is a more interesting discussion in a more and

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what I'm gonna open up the phone lines for eight seven, seven, nine, six, three,
six nine. Has the South turned college football into the
equivalent of hockey for football? Now, some of you right
now are like, kind of uh, it's early in the
morning and you just heard that sentence, and you're like, man, Clay,

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you're making my brain worked too hard. So let me
take a step back here and and reassert it. Hockey
is an incredibly popular sport on a regional level, but
by and large, it isn't that that popular outside of
the region where it's obsessively loved. Right. Canada loves hockey,

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The Upper Midwest loves hockey where it's really cold. Buffalo
loves hockey, right, But it's a relatively small little bandwidth
of the country and of the world that loves hockey.
Has to be cold enough where you start playing at

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when it's young. You have to get out on the ice.
It's not a sport that the rest of the country
is obsessed with. Has that happened with college football too?
Has college football? If you look at the last fourteen years,
thirteen of those years have been one titles have by

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Southern teams, and and for purposes of this, I'm counting
Texas as the South and Oklahoma as the South to
California has fallen off the face of the earth with
USC and u c l A. Arizona not any good
with Arizona or Arizona State. Think about it for a minute.

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Clemson and Alabama are going to play. They're not separated
by that many miles. And Clemson is definitely a Southern team.
Florida State is a quintessentially Southern team. There are no
good teams in the Northeast. Really, Syracuse is okay. I
know they had a good year, they don't really count.

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There are no good teams on the West coast. The
Pact twelve has been awful in bowl season. Continues to
make the argument that the Pact twelve is closer to
not being a major Power five conference than it is
a Power five conference. Every conversation that takes place is
predicated now in college football around the SEC. Texas beats Georgia,

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and college football anti SEC contingent rises up and screams
that the SEC is overrated. That's despite the fact that
the SEC has got the most and best wins by
far of any conference in the college football postseason so far. Yes,

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Georgia got whipped by the way. This means that the
number five teams overall, the fifth team in the playoffs
so far. UH. In the rankings through the fifth season
of the playoff, they're now one and four. So if
you barely missed the playoff, you tend to get waxed.
And I'll talk a little bit more about Georgia here
going forward. But just think about this for a minute

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as you as you contemplate what happened the top of
the SEC and bowls so far. Oklahoma gets beaten pretty
soundly by Alabama, game not really ever close. From about
five minutes in. Alabama had a double digit lead. Florida
beats number seven Michigan soundly. Michigan got whipped l s

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U beats number eight Central Florida and Kentucky beats number
twelve Penn State. UH Texas loses sorry whips number five Georgia.
So the SEC played five teams ranked in the top
fifteen of the bowl final Bowl rankings and they won

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four of those games. And a lot of people who
hate the SEC right now are focused on the one
game they lost as somehow evidence that everything is biased.
The reality is the SEC is the best team out there, UH,
in the best conference out there anywhere. Now when I
say that you think about the overall rankings right of

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college football, and the dominance of the South has come
to bear. It's starting to show up in the ratings too.
The SEC title game, Alabama against Georgia, more people watched
the SEC title game than watched Clemson play Notre Dame
in the College Football Playoff. That stat blew my mind.

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The country as a whole has come to believe the
SEC is the king of all of college football, and
many people are tuning out otherwise. I saw this too,
and I was like, Wow, this is crazy. Listen to
the markets for the biggest audiences to watch college football,

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and we're on in almost all these markets. You guys
are listening right now. Birmingham, Alabama. This is the Cotton Bowl.
The ten cities that watched the College Football Playoff the most,
this was the Cotton Bowl. This was Notre Dame against Clemson. Birmingham, Alabama,

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which is the college football capital of America. They're always green.
Oklahoma City, New Orleans, Tulsa. Remember that Oklahoma was playing
in this game, so uh in the playoffs, so there's
a lot of interest obviously there. Columbus, Ohio, Nashville, Tennessee, Knoxville, Tennessee, Dayton, Ohio,

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in Atlanta. Okay, those are the ten biggest markets that
watched the Cotton Bowl the Cotton Bowl game between Clemson
and Notre Dame. All Right, who watched Alabama play against Oklahoma?
Birmingham number one market in America, Number two market in America, Tulsa,

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Oklahoma City, Greenville, South Carolina, Nashville, Knoxville, Columbus, Ohio, New Orleans, Atlanta,
and Jacksonville. Of all of these markets, the only one
outside of what I would call the SEC region or

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the South in general was Columbus, Ohio, which is obviously
where Ohio State is. Is college football coming like hockey,
where it's so dominated by one particular region a k a.
The South that much of the rest of the country

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is tuning out. We'll see. I think this will become
a more pronounced storyline. I think I'm ahead of the
curve here a little bit. When Alabama and Clemson play
on Monday night, maybe if it's a really great game,
the audience is gonna return. But I think if you're
in the big ten, I think, by and large, if
you're in the pack twelve, I think, certainly if you
live in the Northeast. You're starting to tune out college

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football a little bit because Nick Saban's dominance and the
South's dominance in general in winning thirteen of the last
fourteen championships makes it such that most of the country
doesn't believe they have a chance to win a championship,
and as a result, college football is turning into a
version of hockey insanely popular in one particular stretch of

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the country, basically, from Oklahoma and you draw, you draw
south of Oklahoma all the way through Florida, and you
jump up to Ohio a little bit and bring in
Columbus Ohio. I don't know the answer, acent but it's
starting to feel like that way to a great deal.
And it's also starting to feel like if you're arguing

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you need an eight team college football playoff, the results
on the field aren't showing that. In fact, what the
results on the field are showing is we really only
need one versus two to play. Alabama and Clemson, at
least this year, have established a big gap between themselves
and everybody else in college football. Phone number eight seven
seven six three six nine. You can react to what

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I just said by the way I slept like three
hours last night because I stayed up to watch the
entirety of the Sugar Bowl. We'll talk a little bit
about the Sugar Bowl as well. And uh, if I
can't get team name rights or team's names right, or
I'm miss speaking even more than usual, it's because, guess what,
the brain is slowly waking up here. When you stay

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up late night for games, sometimes your brain isn't firing
on all cylinders to begin with. So that's where we are.
Let's open up the phone lines eight seven seven six
three six nine. This is OutKick the Coverage. Happy New
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When you're offen running in twenty nineteen, I want to
stay off the top two uh here an hour one.
Thank you so much for all the support you guys
showed for this show, uh Inen. We hope to make
twenty nineteen even better. If you're listening on the podcast,
thanks for downloading it. Welcome in nineteen as well. We've
got a loaded show for you. An hour two we'll
talk with Barrett Sale from CBS Sports, and an hour

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three we'll talk to Dan Wetzel from Yahoo. And one
of the things we'll be talking about is, uh, the
college football basically into the season. I know we've got
Monday's game, which I'll be out in Santa Clara, California
for between Alabama and Clemson, but we got about four
hours left of college football before we have the longest
offseason of any sport. And I've been thinking a lot

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about what we learned over the course of the season,
and I'm wondering if college football when you look at
the television ratings, what really jumped out at me was, Wow,
I can't believe Alabama Georgia in the SEC title game
outrated Clemson and Notre Dame in an actual college football
playoff game. And it wasn't that far honestly behind what

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we saw for UH for Alabama against Oklahoma, and I'm
thinking myself, Okay, why is that? And I wonder if
it's because the East Coast and the West coast have
tuned out and not much of the Big Ten has
tuned out as well. Other than at Ohio State, where
Buckeye fans feel like, hey, we can win a national championship,
is there anybody else in the Big Ten that thinks, hey,

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we can win a national championship. Michigan has been exposed
the past two games they've played. I think Michigan fans
start to feel like Jim Harbon is antiquated offense UH
and the defense that gets exposed and they play against
talented fast players not really that close to his championship.
Penn State loses to Kentucky. That's not a loss that

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makes you think, oh my god, we're so close to
a championship and they've already got Trace McSorley graduating two.
Michigan State has been more of a pretender on the
national level than they have been a team that can
compete for a championship. Nebraska is not there or close
to being there yet. With Scott Frost maybe by year
three they will be. Is there anybody in the Big

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ten that feels like, hey, we're a championship caliber team?
And as a result, the college football championship has become
pretty much just a Southern affair in Ohio State one Otherwise,
thirteen of the last fourteen championships have been won by

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teams in the South. And do you get that sense,
Danny g like you're out in l A? I was
talking with Cowherd about this recently. With sc falling off
the radar and with the Chargers and the Rams both
making the playoffs, it feels like the nation's second largest
market in l A just really doesn't care that much

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about college football. The fact that the Pack twelve in
general hasn't had a real championship contender in years now.
Washington looked like a pale approximation of Ohio State in
the Rose Ball. I know they made a late run
to get a miracle cover if you're a gambler, but
it was twenty eight to three with twelve minutes left

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in that game, and it never really felt like Washington
had a remote chance to win that game game after
really the first quarter. So I mean, am I wrong?
In this. I'm open up the phone lines by the
way as well. Eight seven seven nine six three six nine.
Most of the conversation in college football right now consists

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of people saying, yeah, the SEC is the best, and
then every now and then when the SEC loses a game,
people lose their mind, like, oh my god, see this
proves that the SEC isn't any good. It proves how
high the standard has become for the SEC that it
has to win all five of the games it plays
against the top fifteen teams in college football in order

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for the SEC to not be uh to to not
be criticized. Right, You've got Alabama dominating Oklahoma. You've got
Florida dominating Michigan. You've got L s U dominating Central Florida,
and yes they dominated, they outgained them by three hundred yards,
and half of L s u s defense wasn't even

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playing in that game. And then you've got Penn State
losing to Kentucky. That means four SEC teams notched top
twelve wins in the bowl season. Then Georgia no shows
against Texas and people are like, oh, this proves the
SEC sucks. I'm like, wait a minute, we just saw
the SEC win four games against top twelve opponents. No

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other conference is remotely close to pulling that off. And
then Georgia loses by seven to Oklahoma and people lose
their minds. Dan G, do you get that sense that
that college football has become even more of a regional
sport than it used to be. Yeah, And it's interesting
that you bring up your friend Calherd because on his
program Monday, I was watching him on TV and he

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said that he made a decision in ten to cover
less college football on his show and his ratings went
up by thirty. Yeah, it's funny. We we actually talked
about that because the television audience is different than the
radio audience. Um, my audience that's listening right now loves
college football. Right We're in a lot of markets where

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college football is huge. Also, if you're up early driving
into work in the morning, you tend to be more
likely to be a college graduate than not. Right, Um,
in terms of the overall audience that you're gonna put forward,
And Cowhard said, yeah, Look, he pays a lot of
attention to ratings, and what moves the needle for him
on FS one is the NFL. In the n b

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A and so college football, which he loves. Cow heard
is a big college football junkie. He looks at the
numbers and he says, you know, when I talk college football,
I lose a portion of my audience. When I talk NFL,
or I talk NBA, I don't lose anything. And I
mean on this show, we basically do what football for
six months straight. Every now and then I'll get criticism.

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People are like, oh, you're not talking about college basketball.
You're not talking about the NBA, you're not talking about
the NHL, you're not talking about about baseball. I said,
because the numbers. I see the numbers. We're up fifty
over last year on this radio show, which is massive
right nationwide, We're up over fifty. Why is that because
you don't lose any audience talking football. Now, I don't

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lose any audience talking college football and the NFL. But
that's partly because, again, my audience tends to be people
up early in the morning, East Coast based, especially early
in the show, UM that loves college football, UM and
other parts of the country on television, for instance, they
don't spend any time talking it. Skip Bayless, Shannon Sharpe,

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don't talk much college football. I think there's a huge
market for it, but it is becoming, i think, increasingly regionalized.
Eight seven, seven, three, six nine. Let's go in and
take some of your calls. I'm curious if you guys agree. Uh,
let's see. Uh Tommy and Florida. What's up, Tommy? Hey Man?
Great show again. I've been telling my friends and I've

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called into these shows and I said it for years.
You don't need any more than four used to pick
out who these best teams are. All you gotta do
is watch that Washington team last night playof House State.
Here's the comment that I'd like to hear what you
have to say about. They keep talking about having eight teams,
and they also talking about how these players leaving to

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go to the draft. Aren't you afraid that the team eight,
seven and six and five are gonna have a lot
of guys going. Yeah, we made the playoffs, but I
want to go to the NFL and you might have
one versus eight. You may have five or six guys
on I mean, who is the number eight team this
year or seven? I mean Michigan didn't even have four
or five guys out in the field. Yeah, it's it's

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it's a good question. I think it will turn into
a really big story if you ever have top players
on college football playoff teams sit out the playoff. I
really do um and I don't know when it's gonna
happen or if it will happen, but I still think
that's gonna be a rarity when it does win or

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if it happens, there will be a massive discussion about it.
If you know, you mentioned Michigan, Michigan had a lot
of guys sit out. I think that's because they didn't
care about the bowl game, and I a get I
don't think it's a coincidence that the team that has
finished fifth so far in the five years of the
college football Playoff has gone one and four in the

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bowl season. I don't think it's a coincidence that Georgia
looked a lot like Alabama did back when they lost
the SEC Championship game to Utah, or like Auburn did
last year when they lost to Central Florida in the SEC.
If you are playing to make the playoff and you lose,
I think it's hard to turn around and get your

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team back up to play at a high level. In
a bowl game, which is just a glorified exhibition. I
wish I thought about that beforehand when I was betting
on these college football bowl games. In particular, Again, the
team that has finished fifth overall is now one and
four against the number in uh straight up, not even

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against the number one and four in outright wins. And
this year three, four, five, seven, eight, and nine in
the final college football playoff rankings have all lost, which
I think makes the argument that we need an eight
team playoff even more absurd. Alabama and Clemson this year
are by far the best two teams in college football,

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and any more teams playing for the championship than we
already saw would have led to the same result. I
think Troy and Minnesota. What's up? Hey, Good Mornings follows
a long time listen the first time caller. Yeah, I
appreciate it. Yeah, Hey, I think your numbers, your viewership numbers,
um that you're mentioning. I think the reason that you say, um,

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we're bigger for the SEC title game than it was
for the Clemson Order Dame game. There's a simple fact
that Georgia had a lot of steam going into that game,
and I think that they everybody tuned in because they
actually fought Aliba. I'm a head a shot at loosing
that game. Yeah. Look, I don't think there's any doubt
at all about that. But that speaks to for a

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long time, thanks for the call and listening. We heard
for a long time. What Notre Dame is a major
national television draw. Oh, people will tune in to watch
Notre Dame. Oh the fighting Irish Man. They bring in
a large segment of the country that might not care
otherwise about college football, in particular Irish people who live
in Massachusetts, who live in uh, you know, all over

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the Northeast that otherwise don't really pay much attenion to
college football, but they're Catholic and they root for Notre
Dame for that reason, and they're Irish and they want
to see what's gonna happen. Has that audience just disappeared?
Think about that Notre Dame, which hasn't been in the
playoff for five years, has a big, supposedly national following

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in Alabama and Georgia. Outrage Notre Dame against Clemson. Now
you can say the game wasn't very close, and certainly
Notre Dame ended up losing whatever it was thirty to
three or whatever the final score was, but it was
close for the first half and people still didn't turn
in tune in. I'm curious about this, like, why would

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that beat? Was it because the game was on December
twenty nine? Why did the SEC title game outrage Clemson
Notre Dame? Why did more people watch? Why did a
million more people watched Alabama Georgia then watched Notre Dame Clemson.
I think it's because there's a general belief that the
SEC is the best in the land, and people would

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tune in to watch Alabama lose, but they're not going
to tune in to watch Notre Dame play now. Maybe also,
Notre Dame is still dealing with that lasting hangover from
the you know, buck kicking they got when they played
against Alabama and then the buck kicking they also got
when they played against Clemson, and the nation as a
whole doesn't believe Notre Dame is good enough to actually

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win those games, so they don't invest their time. Really
kind of fascinating. Marty in Denver, what's up, Marty Clay,
first time caller. I've got a few years ago. It's
been uh. I think it's been about fifteen years ago.
There was an article written, Um, Jeremy Bloom comes to mind.
I think what happens is in the South, And I've

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lived in the South half my life. I'm fifty two,
so I've lived in Colorado the other half. And I
think what happens is kids. Uh, Jeremy Bloom was a
pro skier, and you also got drafted into the NFL.
What happens in nordern uh states and cities as these
kids grow up playing hockey, uh, skiing, sweating, snowmobiling, and

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they they they they're diversified in their activities as youth
in the South, they really focused. The pot Warner is
huge in the South. My son play pot warn football
to get into high school football. Um, they're either playing
Pot Warner football or the playing baseball basketball relatively below
the Mason Dixon line is is here, here and here.

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But I think that I think you need to look
into that because I think what happens to these kids
out west, there's so there's just so many activities. So
they they're they're kind of a jack of all trades,
master of none. I'll take your comments off here. That's
an interesting argument. I mean, my kids play everything. So
I mean, like my eight year old right now, my

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kids are that they love watching. And it's interesting. I
said that hockey is a regionalized sport in the Northeast.
Now I'm married a girl from Michigan. But the Nashville
Predators have gotten popular here and my ten, eight and
four year olds are taking hockey lessons during winter break
and so. But there's not very many ice skating rinks,

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but they're out there. But my eight year old, for instance,
in the last year, has played baseball, he's played hockey,
he's played flag football, which I think is growing a lot.
I don't know about you guys out there nationwide, but
I see a lot for people who love football. They're
young kids. Because of concussion concerns. The number of kids
playing flag football is skyrocketing. Um as a result, um

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and uh. And that's wildly popular. It's a pretty fun
sport to watch, soccer, all those things. My kids play,
all those things. I do think kids are a little
bit more well rounded. They play more, most more sports.
When I was growing up, there were three sports, football, baseball,
and basketball, and you played one of those three. Nobody
would play hockey. Nobody would play soccer. Um. I think

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there's a lot more kids that are more well rounded.
But if you look at the recruiting class rankings, he's right.
All of the top players come from the South, and
really the only school from the middle part of the country,
the the Big Ten and the SEC that recruits SEC
caliber players on a regular level is Ohio State. You

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go look at the roster, They've got a lot of
SEC caliber players that they're able to convince to come
up and play. Now, maybe that will change with Jason
Day taking over for a noted for a ad Meyer.
I'm not sure, but it is intriguing that by and
large the rosters are stacked in a way that doesn't
exist anywhere else. Final call Robert in New York. What's up, Robert?

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Happy New Year? Appreciate that, and foremost I would say this,
you know, when the outcomes of these games are predictable,
and us as fans, when our enthusiasm for our teams
start to wane, I think that feeling of helplessness is
absolutely bad for college football. I'm a die hard Notre
Dame fan, and I consider myself pretty knowledgeable when it
comes to sports. I had no delusions of grander that

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we were even going to be competitive with Clemson. But
you know, let me ask you. Let me ask you
that because I am curious on the Notre Dame fan
thought in that respect, was that because of what happened
when you played against Alabama, was the hangover from that
beat down still significant? Why did? Because I I made
the opposite decision. I bought into Notre Dame this year.
I wish I hadn't because I lost a lot of money,

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you know, betting on them. Um. And I do think
that this Notre Dame team was substantially better in terms
of the roster and talent than the one that lost
to Alabama. But I feel like there's a lot of
people who have not were not with me, and they
hadn't bought into Notre Dame. And you're a Notre Dame
fan and you had not? Why not? And what would
it take for you to buy into? Hey, Notre Dame

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is good enough to win a championship? Well, I think
there was some um residuals from the Alabama game. And
again for me, when it was just looking at our roster, um,
when I lined up our roster against Clemson's, I just
didn't feel that we are going to be able to compete,
and you know, like I was gonna say, out of loyalty,
I did watch the start of the game. By half time,

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I shut it off and I you know, switched over
to Netflix. It's just there was no way we were
going to be competitive with them when you line them
up from top to bottom, you know, from roster, from
one to the last person on the roster. Thanks for
the call. College football has always been uniquely regional. SEC
people argue they're the best pack twelve people you know,

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are watching their own conference, and so much of the
games take place in a particular region. But when one
region begins to dominate for as long as the South
has and look, you can count the state of Texas
in my opinion as the South. Oklahoma, in my opinion,
is also the South in terms of its culture. Um,
you know, certainly Clemson and Florida State are Southern schools.

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They just happened to be in the A C C. I.
I don't know what would have to happen in order
for that to change. Is SC going to join the
ranks of the high level success with urban Meyer Maybe
it's certainly not gonna happen. With Clay Hilton. Right now,
let me bring in Eddie Garcia find out what shaken
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We've got an audio clip. I believe we had something

(33:09):
go wrong with Sesame Street right. If you haven't heard this,
Grover got a little foul mouth potentially I haven't heard
this yet. Danny G tells me that I'm gonna love it.
We'll play it for you next and that'll be how
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had a controversy arise in the world of Sesame Street

(34:17):
and I'm told this is uh, this is incredible audio.
Grover may have got a little bit of salty mouth.
When did this happen? Danny G. This was the very
end of last week. A new Laurel or Yanni debate
blew up the Internet came from a parent on Reddit.
He posted something that he noticed when his child was

(34:37):
watching Sesame Street and yeah, you're right. The big question
is did Grover actually drop an F bomb on live television.
Here's what it sounded like when Inside Edition was covering
this story. Yes, yes, that sounds like an idea. Wait
what did Grover just say? Yes, yes, that's an idea.

(34:59):
So we're asking whether the Sesame Street character bad word
on the children's program? All right, that is definitely an
F bomb? What did that? What did Sesame Streets say?
He was saying, they're saying that. He said, that's an
excellent idea. Roberto thinks he's saying that's a fun and
excellent idea. I think he dropped an F bomb there,

(35:20):
that's what. So we have just isolated just him saying it.
Here you go, yes, yes, that's a excellent idea. Yeah,
that's an F bomb. That's a billion percent and F bomb.
Now we're not gonna get FCC restuctions here because Sesame
Street says they did nothing wrong. Right, right, and as

(35:41):
you just heard, it was on regular television. Right, play
that one more time because we can get away with this.
But I'm telling you, Grover he's gonna have to like
the Christmas story wise, like Ralphie and Christmas story should
be sitting around with the with the soap in his mouth. Yes, yes,
that's a excellent idea. I talk now so so that

(36:03):
we didn't get into any trouble. I forwarded this to
our boss what was it on Friday to make sure
that it was okay, And it was blown up on
TMZ and a whole bunch of other website hear it, though,
he said, there's no way Grover said that on Sesame Street.
I'm okay with you guys playing it? Play it again? Yes, yes,

(36:24):
that sounds I don't. I mean, that's a tape show too.
I don't see how anybody could listen to that again.
There's a difference between when when I screw up on
live radio or live television. It's going out to everybody.
So it's not like we have the ability to go,
like tape a show, go back, listen to it, analyze

(36:48):
every word and see whether or not that actually took place.
There is I don't think any different at all? Um.
And did Grover just dunk all over the f c C.
I I just all right. Let one of my buddies
just texted me as he's driving into work. He said,

(37:08):
listen again and presume that it's that Grover is saying
that sounds like an excellent idea, and you'll hear hear
it differently. So I'm gonna try to presume, going to
presume that this is not a curse word. Let's hear
it one more time. Oh yes, yes, that sounds like
an excellent idea. I mean it sounds to me like

(37:29):
he's saying that's an effing excellent idea when I even
when I try, Uh, I don't see anyway that that's
not a curse word. Let's open up the phone lines. Well,
we'll have a every now and then we have an
out kick jury. So the first ten people to call
in will be our jury. What is Grover saying? Double

(37:49):
field your calls eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six three
six nine in the meantime the jury, Roberto, you're on
that's an F bomb, right, Uh, Danny g f completely
Eddie Garcia. I was on F bomb until I until
I tried to listen to that last thing with your advice,
And now I'm now I'm not sure. Now you're on

(38:10):
the Now you're on the defence, uncertain as to what
the outcome should be. Um dub is gonna field all
these calls and we will take your call in the
OutKick Jury. Uh. To start our two, also ask you
an interesting question as we roll into the top of
our two, did you guys here there's a lot of

(38:31):
discussion about all the fired coaches, right, and later in
this week, I'll rank you the top eight jobs in
the NFL that are available. Uh. Eight guys got fired,
and it immediately turned into a racial issue, right, because
everything that happens in today's sports universe has to immediately
be racialized. Because five of the fired coaches were black.

(38:52):
I've got data for you to point out why that
is such a ridiculous argument to make. But first is
the OutKick jury. Did Grover drop an F bomb? The
ten of you the first ten to call, wait through
the commercial break, the first ten of you to call
will be our jury. Let's hear that one more time
as we get prepared to roll into our two again,

(39:15):
the OutKick jury all listening. Uh, maybe you got kids.
Maybe you got kids and you're driving around in your car.
You're like, I don't know about this, sessime. Maybe they
want to be on the jury. Sessim A lot of
people starting off their morning, although probably not as many
because kids are still mostly out of school. But eight
seven seven nine, six three six nine, the OutKick Jury
going to decide this. Did Grover go all F bomb

(39:38):
on us? Here? Is that audio one more time? Yes? Yes,
that sounds like an excellent idea. Yeah, I am on
the in camp of Grover dropping an F bomb? Uh,
major controversy evidently that emerged on Friday of last week.
We are now diving in in the new year. Did
Grover drop an F bomb? The biggest stories brought to

(40:00):
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(40:44):
put up a poll question for you, guys. It's not
gonna be whether or not Grover set an F bomb.
If you haven't heard, you're just starting off your morning.
I know many of you set your Alexa or you
set your alarms in the morning to start off with us.
Appreciate you doing that. We've got some audio that we're
gonna play for you. We're gonna go to the out
kick jury. We have jurors lined up from virtually, uh

(41:04):
what ten different states or whatever. We're gonna run into
those in a minute and actually play a poll question
though for you. Do we have the audio? I think
we do. Urban Meyer got the win over Washington three
lead Ohio State somehow gave away to cover late against Washington.
If you were watching the Rose Bowl. In the immediate
aftermath of that game, urban Meyer was asked whether this

(41:26):
was the final college football game that he will ever coach.
He said it was. Here's that audio. Doug Laurys Cleveland
dot com. Urban how did you feel walking off the
field and was it any different than every other time
you've walked off the field after a win? Sure? I
would uh We've been on the phone recruiting in the
last half of the walk. If it wasn't our last
game and right now, I'd be like starting to put

(41:47):
pencils to who's coming back, who's not coming back? And
what do we do a left tackle? What do we
do this? What do we do that? But the new
guys gotta worry about that, and we're gonna certainly help him.
Uh So it felt different a dash off ESPN. Urban
Shelly just sat out there that she thinks you're done.
She would be a static if you never coached again.
Why do you believe that you won't coach again. I

(42:10):
think I'm very blessed and uh this has been I know,
relatively young, but I started young seventeen years as a
head coach, thirty three years doing this and uh, just
very fortunate. And I I do believe I'm done. So
our poll question is Urban Meyer done coaching? You can
go vote in that. I'll have it up shortly on

(42:31):
Twitter at Clay Travis. Let's roll right in though. The
big question, big debate, massive controversy on Sesame Street. This
happened last week and then when viral headed into the
weekend into the new year, Grover Did he drop an
F bomb? This is that isolated segment of the show.

(42:52):
Here is Grover, here, he is the jury about to
decide on out kick. Oh, yes, yes, that sounds like
Frind's idea. All right, did Grover say? Yes? That is
an effing excellent idea. There's the music in the background.
Every now and then we open up the polls, open
up the phone lines to the out kick jury. You now,

(43:15):
the ten of you will decide. Did Grover drop an
F bomb? We are starting, I believe with Lee in Mississippi?
What you got? Lee? Absolutely not? No, No, what do
you hear? That sounds like an excellent idea? That sounds
like to figure out what I tried to figure out

(43:36):
what they want to do with the camera? Are they
rousing the camera? All right? So Lee, Lee is voting. No,
I'm not gonna be I'm gonna be surprised. Maybe because
he's from Mississippi, Bible Belt country down there, maybe he
doesn't hear a bad word I hear. Let's hear one
more time here as we go in. Yes, Yes, that's

(44:00):
an excellent idea. All right, I don't even think it's close. U.
Let's go to Adam in Washington State, Adam, what's up?
What are you here? Bank Lee? I totally here a
F bomb. I even tried to put it in a
frame of mind of textually like your friend called in
and total bomb, total BOMBA one to one. It's could

(44:21):
be a tight race one to one down the stretch
we come. Let's go to Mike in Semi Valley, California.
What you got for me? Thank Ley? Yeah? No, he
clearly said the F bomb. There's no doubt at all
about it with you, Mike. I'm with you yet? Okay?
Uh two to one F bomb winning. Let's go to Teddy. Oh?

(44:42):
Are actually that dub keeps switching around on me here?
Jason in Kentucky? Is that who's next? Happy to your fellers? Yeah?
Happy new Year, Jason? What you hear? Hey? That's absolutely
in F bomb? And now Grover is definitely my dog
from Session Street, grow over in the doghouse. To be sure,

(45:04):
Let's go to hold On. I gotta make sure here.
Sue in West Palm Beach, Florida, Sue, what you got
for me? How you even trying to put it in
a frame of mind of all right, what will come
back to Florida? Not surprisingly, Florida has their radio up
to too loud. Uh, Florida man and sue, I'm assuming

(45:25):
is a Florida woman Florida swinging a miss Their sue
right now is talking on the phone like ready to
answer the question. She's gonna hear herself in like forty seconds.
Donny in Washington State? What you got for me? Hey?
How you doing today? Happy New Year? Yeah? Happy new
Year to you? What you got for me? Yes? Or no?
I say he did not drop the F bomb because

(45:46):
the show scripted and he had to read it from
the script, and that's the only way they're able to
play it on TV. They can prove what he actually said. Yeah,
but you know what, then, thanks for the call. Just
because it's written in the script doesn't mean it's gonna
be read exactly right. I agree with you, it is
totally scripted. But what if the guy who's doing Grover
was just like, screw it, I'm gonna throw in an
F bomb today and see if anybody notices. How would

(46:07):
you prove that he didn't do that? Who's up next? Dub?
You got me all crossed over with all this numbering.
We got sid in Mississippi, sid In Mississippi said, what
do you got for me? Have any year play? Uh,
I'm from Mississippi and I hear I hear an F bomb? Yeah,
I mean I was trying to give an un bias,
unbiased opinion. My kids love Sesame Street. But I gotta

(46:28):
I gotta go guilty. Guilty? Indeed? Is Sue still there?
Should we go back to West Palm Beach, Florida? Sue?
Sue was humiliated when she had a radio on, and
so she is dove off. Let's go to then? Who
was up next? Uh? Leo in l A Hey, guys. Yeah,
actually it's absolutely yes and no, because it depends again

(46:53):
on perception. Because when I heard it the first time,
I thought it was a F bomb, But then afterwards
when they said it was excellent, I heard excellent. So
it depends on perception either way. I think I'm gonna
start watching let me see it again. Thanks Leo. When
you're on the jury, you don't get to say, oh,
you know what. It depends on perception. On the one hand,

(47:14):
this is a perfect l A l A role here.
This is like being on the O J Jury and
being like, on the one hand, I think he killed her,
But on the other hand, I don't think he killed her.
You can't. You can't straddle the fence on whether or
not Grover dropped a f bomb, just like you can't
straddle the fence on whether or not O J committed
a murder. You're on the jury. You have to come

(47:34):
down on one side or the other. David Florida, what's up?
Happy new year? Having a new year? I think he
started a sentence and did such uh with the dramatic pause,
and then did such an excellent idea. So the uh,
such excellent idea is what I think he said. So
you're I'm gonna be I'm gonna be honest with you.

(47:55):
Let's play this for you one more time. Right now,
I have got seven and we keep dropping and adding people.
So Bill in Tennessee, Actually let's go to Bill and
then we're gonna have to final ten total jurors. Bill,
what you got for me, Clay Brother, As much as
I want to say otherwise, Man, that isn't f bomb.
If you just listened to the tempo, that's exactly the

(48:16):
same way I would have dropped it. Yeah, I do too,
all right, So five to three two final people dubbed
just randomly as they ring. Just grab those phones and
we'll go directly to the caller without even knowing who
it is. Let's play it one more time, right now,
Grover drops an F bomb, winning five to three in
the Great OutKick, the first out kick, and paneled jury

(48:39):
ofen here to decide everything. Let's listen one more time. Yeah,
I mean little things. I mean every single game. Hold
on a second, that's Patrick Mahomes. We want the real
grow Okay, there's so many yerrors. I thought that here's
here's here's the real Grover. Yeah. Yes, that sounds like

(49:00):
an excellent idea. Yeah, yeah, that to me is an
F bomb. All right, dub who we got? Just pull
it up. We got Teddy in Western Kentucky, in Western Kentucky.
Teddy in Western Kentucky. What you got for me? I
don't know what happened there. Is it Western Kentucky or

(49:21):
West Virginia. It's Western Kentucky? All right? What you got
for me? Yes or no? Absolutely? It is absolutely an
F bomb. And if you think back to the year
two thousand, they put out a week called Tickle Miamo,
and it was dropping the F bomb on all the kiddies.
So Happy New Year. Move the show. I'm gonna hang
up and listen, all right, appreciate it. Six to three.

(49:42):
Final vote on the out kicked jury will go to
who dubbed Well, hold on, he just dropped. We got
on one on the line right now? All right? No,
we have no idea who it is? All right? Who
you got? Who? Who are you? And what's your vote?
I'm followed from Kentucky and I think it's, uh, that
sounds like next one idea. Well, I don't. I don't

(50:03):
hear the bomb. Doesn't hear the F bomb? All right?
So actually this ended up being I mean, I would
if I were a sesame Street, I would take that
as a vindication. Wouldn't you guys take that as a vindication?
If I'm stunned. I thought this would be a ten
o jury. I thought the jury would return with a
verdict and it would immediately have taken place, and it

(50:25):
wouldn't even be remotely close. Are you guys, dub you
didn't vote? Which how would you vote? I am absolutely
shocked by these results because I was actively trying to
hear something else besides the F bomb, and I couldn't,
So I thought it would be nine to one at worst.
I I thought it would be ten. Oh, I really did.
What about you, Eddie Garcia, have you decided have you

(50:45):
come down on one side of the fence or not? Yeah,
I'm gonna have to go F bomb. Yeah. I though
there was one time I thought maybe I didn't hear it,
But then the next couple of times you played it,
I did hear it. So what does this say about
our show that we are unanimous that we here an
F bomb? You like, what is the total of Yeah,
we're professionally trained, you know, broadcasters and have a great year.

(51:07):
So that's so five oh. On the show, we all
hear f bombs. But when we go to callers, it's
six four, which is I mean's gonna be honest with you.
I'm stunned that of the out kicked jury, I mean,
six four, you can't get a conviction there. And I
think we have to. I think we have to let
Grover off the hook. I thought I thought we were
gonna have a hang in jury. I thought Grover was

(51:28):
done for. I thought there was no way that anybody
was gonna be able to save Grover. And then we
go to the jury and I mean, it's like oh J.
Just like o J. I thought o J was done for.
Jurors have their verdict and and Grover like they spared him,
they spared Grover. I I thought Grover was gonna come
in for some major, major hit there. Grover got a

(51:51):
good jury. That's the thing about juries, You know, you
never know what jury you're gonna get. People think, oh,
juries never make mistakes. No, sometimes jury's get it wrong. Yeah,
I kicked Orry, they spoken Grover survives. I didn't think
it needed to be ten oh in order for a
conviction to occur. But I think you need at least
eight out of ten votes to get a conviction. Now
we have to be unanimous, usually on a jury, but

(52:12):
on the out kick jury. I think it's tough to
get unanimity. Unanimity. How that's a tough word to say.
Am I pronouncing that wrong? Nimity? Unanimity, unanimity, no idea?
Because tight unanimity, unanimity, unanimity, I said it right right, Well, unanimity,

(52:39):
that's a tough word to say. It's hard. Put an
F word in front of it. See how it sounds
that way? Effing unanimity much better? Unanimity unanimity. We are
going to be back. Barrensley is going to join us.
Is the South dominance of college football destroying the sport?
Did we learn anything from Texas? Is big win over

(53:01):
Georgia last night? How about Central Florida. Let's pour one
out Central Florida's national championship taken away by L s U.
I'd like to congratulate the Bayou Bengals, everybody down in Louisiana.
Big time national championship for at Ogeron. When you beat
the champ, you are the champ. And so L s
U grabbing a share of the national championship yesterday with

(53:22):
their beat down of ucf uh. We saw what Kentucky
get the win over Penn State Iowa. Iowa rushed for
negative fifteen yards and still beat Mississippi State. I don't
know if you guys were watching that game earlier. Mississippi
State had a winning touchdown past thrown literally. Nick Fitzgerald
drops a perfect pass in The Mississippi State receiver not

(53:47):
only dropped it, he bobbled it to such an extent
he knocked it up into the air and it was
picked off by Iowa. That's the difference in the game.
Mississippi State scores there. I think they win the game
if the guy just catches it. Not only does he
not catch it in the end zone for what should
have been an easy touchdown, he was wide open. He
bobbles it, pops it up in the air, and Iowa

(54:08):
picks it off. Best break on an interception that you
will see in a long time, from a touchdown till
losing the game. Iowa drives down, kicks the field goal,
and Mississippi State loses. Uh. That was a tough loss
from Mississippi State. UM. And uh yeah, that is the
major outcomes of the games yesterday. Didn't feel right to me.

(54:29):
Didn't feel right to me that we played the college
football playoff games on December twenty nine and then come
January one, yesterday. I'm sitting around watching college football all
day and it just feels like a not the right fit.
We should have had the college football playoff games. In
my opinion, they should always be played on January one. UM,

(54:51):
it just doesn't feel right to not have those games.
To have those games take place earlier, I just felt strange.
We'll talk about that with barretts Lee will break down everything.
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It's Dan Wetzel an hour two, and then we'll talk
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College football New Year's Day Bowl games in the Sugar Bowl,
Texas over Georgia one Longhorns, knocking off the fifth ranked
team in the country, the Bulldogs, who some felt should
have been in the College football playoffs, Rose Bowl, Ohio
State beating washed in twenty twenty three and the last
game for Urban Meyer as Buckeyes head coach. He has
to Bowl l s U b U c F forty

(57:25):
to thirty two. Central Florida has its twenty five game
winning streaks snapped. Citrus Bowl Kentucky Bepen State twenty four.
The Wildcats get a ten win season for the first
times its nineteen seventy seven, and the Outback Bowl of
was Ziowa, Mississippi State twenty two. In the NBA, Raptors
get their league best twenty eighth one of the year,
beating the Jazz one one sixteen Nuggets over the Knicks
one fifteen one away. Denver is a half game up

(57:46):
on Golden State for the top record in the West.
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(58:07):
unavailable in every state. Now back Clay Travis in the
OutKick the coverage studios. Dan Wetzel joining us here. Poll
question is up. I'll ask Dan what'sell what he thinks
as well? Do you believe Urban Meyer has coached his
fast his last football game? He said as he came
off the field after they beat Washington. I am done here.
Two thousand of you have voted in the first what three,

(58:28):
four or five minutes of this poll. Eighty percent of
you do not believe Urban Meyer. You do not believe
he has coached his the last football game. Dan, what's
all with us? Now? I'll start that question with you.
Do any chance to you that Urban Meyers coached his
last football game? Not a great one. I would think
he he is, uh, he'll be back at some point,

(58:49):
but you know, I mean, obviously nobody knows, but I
would expect the coaches Again, I certainly don't believe anything
he said is you know. I think it's just a
matter of how is he feeling, whether he wants to
do it. We're talking to Dan Wetzel, Yeah, who sports
national columnists. I think you tweeted about this yesterday as well.

(59:10):
Did it feel anti climatic to you that on January one,
we had already played the two postseason bowl ge the
two playoff games, and that all these other games really like, Okay,
they're kind of entertaining. I like to gamble on him.
I enjoyed watching them, but they really don't matter in
the grand scheme of things. It just felt incredibly anti
climatic to me. Well, I mean, the college football is

(59:32):
totally it's just totally mismanaged. And I hate to call
it and mismanaged because you have people who are making
tons of money by not by running companies football programs
that Life Department said, don't have to pay taxes and
severely undercompensate their most valuable employees, so other than the coaches.

(59:56):
So these guys are are kind of really good at
managing this thing. Most businesses, everyone driving to work today
would go with that. But um, in terms of just
how it operates, it's I mean, it's ridiculous, you know,
And they can't. They can't. There's so many factions, there's
so many crony is m you know, no one can
tell the Rose Bowl that they don't get the best spot.

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I mean, January one should be the day of the
semifinals in college football every year. Um, but they can't
do that, so we have this first, they decided they
were gonna, you know name naively. They said, oh, we're
gonna re rewrite the paradigm of New Year's Eve. Remember,
people weren't gonna go out in the party on New
Year's Eve anymore. They're gonna watch college football. Okay, yeah,

(01:00:38):
good luck, Remember right now. That was a disaster. That
was the college football power broker said, you know what,
We're gonna make New Year's Eve a major college football window,
and we're gonna lead to more divorces and more women
crying in the streets in a fancy dress with their
heels in their hands. The number one night New Year's

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Eve in general, because there's gonna be games going on
and everything else people playing. And that was a disaster.
Nobody wanted to watch college football and New Year's Eve
because everybody has plans to do things already on New
Year's Eve. And then so they changed it. Now they
got the December twenty nine game, and were you stunned
to see these numbers? Like when I saw that the
SEC title game had more viewers than Clemson against UH

(01:01:25):
Notre Dame. That blew my mind? Does that surprise you
a little? But I knew I know that you can't
get anything going because we have I mean, I know
the data we have on these games in the middle
of the vacation are there's not any build up, there's
no interest, no one even knows it's about to happen practically,
no matter how much ESPN pops it up. So um,

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and and the other part about the New Year's Eve,
just to go back, this is the naivete and how
out of touch these guys are. People work on New
Year's Eve. Yeah, it's a work day, especially a four
o'clock game when it's one o'clock in California. She guess
what some people work. These guys are surrounded by rich
boosters and college employees like, oh, well, everybody's free New

(01:02:09):
Year's Eve at one o'clock. No they're not. They got
guy's gotta work. So there's that. Um. I was a
little surprised, but only because it's just there's too big
of a gap, Like they just don't know how to
run the playoff, and they don't know how to do
this thing set upright. And at some point you either
go hey, Rose Bowl, you gotta move your or just say, hey,

(01:02:31):
we're gonna put the We're gonna put one semifinal in
the Rose Bowl every year, permanent site. And and I
don't care if you do New Orleans as the other
permanent site. Uh you know, Omaha hosts the World Series
every year at Oklahoma State. Oklahoma City owns the host
the softball and they do different things. But oh no,
but what about this bowl game? They need their kick

(01:02:53):
and my buddy runs the Fiesta Bowl, and what about them?
We'd make them like it's nothing is done on in
college football in an effort to truly say what is best,
like you could never get the the a f C
Championship game move like the nf NFL just sits there
and says, hey, this is when we're running stuff. Get

(01:03:14):
out of the way. We're doing it for the Guess what.
Cowboys are the biggest draw. We're putting them on Sunday afternoon.
Bears are the second biggest draw. Put them on Saturday
night for the most people to watch. Sorry, Houston and uh, Indie,
you get the worst time slot because no one wants
to watch you. That's just the If you become more popular,
you get the better slot, like nobody's running this ship,

(01:03:36):
and so you have this weird thing, and so you go, well,
why were we playing on that? It's those semifinal games
as bad as they were, and it's not as bad
as as non competitive and there's nothing you can do
about that. But if you put those yesterday, the ratings
are significantly higher, as we have seen when they do
use the rows and the sugar. So they somebody has

(01:03:58):
to stand up and do some thing. But there's so
much crony ism, and there's so many factions and there's
so little leadership because most of these commissioners and a
d s are just making money and they can't believe
that they actually have a job where they're making this
much money running this sport that nobody wants to really
rock the boat and say here, here's what's best for
the fans and the players and the growth of the game.

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I'll tell you what. It's going to turn into a
big story. The college football national championship games in Santa Clara.
And you're talking about something I think that makes a
lot of sense to most people. Is like, yeah, maybe
the Rose Bowl and the Sugar Bowls should get the
default semifinal games every year, play it on New Year's Eve?
Do all that? Sorry? On New Year's Day? Right now,

(01:04:41):
the get in price for and we're what five days
out from the game, six days out whatever it is
from the National title game is down to two hundred
bucks in Santa Clara. There are gonna be I think
a ton of empty seats when Clemson and Alabama are
playing on a Monday. You mentioned, Hey, New you 's
Eve is a work day for a lot of people.

(01:05:02):
It's expensive. Look, you asked Alabama fans and and Oklahoma
fans to travel all the way to Miami for uh,
for New Year's Eve effectively right that December twenty nine,
right after Christmas. Pretty expensive to get into Miami, not
a cheap place to stay for hotels. Uh, And they
did a pretty good job, I thought traveling there. You
asked for Clemson and Notre Dame fans to travel all

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the way to Dallas on December twenty nine, relatively short notice.
Now you're asking everybody to also travel all the way
across the country to East coast effectively schools. I know
Alabama's in the Central time zone, but to East Coast
as schools Alabama and Clemson, who are quintessentially southern schools.
You're asking them now to travel all the way to

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Santa Clara for a Monday after kids have to be
back in school, So you're then also requiring people to
travel all the way back on Tuesday or Wednesday or
whatever else. Ticket prices have collapsed there down to two
hundred dollars now for a get in price. This could
get pretty ugly, couldn't it. I mean, in terms of
if they're painting around into the crowd, a lot of

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people are gonna start to ask the question, why in
the world is Santa Clara hosting one of the college
football title games? You know? Look, I can see the
argument on this as you're moving around to grow the game,
you know. So, I mean, it is a major city.
There is a really the one thing that should be
saving him and probably are actually saving those tickets better

(01:06:27):
is it's the wealthiest area of the country to the
number one and number two, uh wealthiest metro regions in
the country is is San Jose is number two and
Santa or San Jose might be number one in San
Francisco's number two, or vice versa. So that's about the
only things even saving it. But yeah, when you have this,
you're gonna you're gonna have um, You're gonna have poor attendance.

(01:06:51):
It doesn't feel like a big event because the Monday night,
even when it's in Tampa or Atlanta, the fans kind
of just show up on Monday because people are busy.
You've also why why did you make them travel for
the for the semifinal again with this Bowl game thing?
You know the NFL guess where the semifinals are played
on at home? It's a big part of the game.

(01:07:12):
It's a big part of the regular season. Why the
regular season matters so much in the NFL because you
get home field advantage and you don't sit there and say, boy,
let's not play this thing in Gillette Stadium with you
or Kansas City. They earned it. Uh, you know, let's
play in in in in Miami because we want to
help our buddies who who are on the Miami who
are on the Orange Bowl to get uh make eight

(01:07:35):
grand running a single game and helping the tourism industry
of Miami. Who cares about the tourism industry. You've you've
bankrupted out your fans because they got to travel all
these games. We got us. We got an SEC championship
game in there too. There And I swear the commissioners
and the a d s hang around rich old people
who have nothing to do, and so that their their

(01:07:58):
their peer group is like, heck, yeah, I'll be out
in San Francisco by Friday for five days. And everyone
else like, man, I got kids in school, what are
you nuts? I can't afford that. So the ticket prices
will be low. I don't think that's a total disaster. Um,
you take your gamble when you move the super the
big event around, but uh, you know, more people, somebody

(01:08:22):
can get in a little cheaper. But again, there's nobody
running this playoff. The people are upset with the playoff
a little bit. It's because they didn't actually create a
playoff that made any sense. It's like it's something that
comes out of like Washington, d C. Where there's seven
different special interests all trying to get their kick, and
and so we end up with this weird thing that

(01:08:43):
doesn't really work quite right. And and and every year
the end of the end of the season goes and
and that's why those twenty nine games. I mean, it's
just it's not a good time. People aren't thinking playoff
then and in the NFL dominates everything, and it's just
a bad time. Try to run that game. And that's
why you have even when Notre Dame Clemson and you

(01:09:04):
know that game was competitive for the first half. Um,
it wasn't. I mean think it got twenty one three
at the end of the half. But that was like
on the last play or something like. It was a
decent game early. Uh. You know, those ratings should never
be that low. We're talking to Dan Wetzel at Dan Wetzel, Yeah,
who sports national columnist. The South effectively, especially if you

(01:09:26):
count Texas as the South, which I do, has one
of the last fourteen national championships in college football. They're
about to make it fourteen out of fifteen when either
Alabama or Clemson win on Monday. Is that bad for
college football? Well? Yes, but there's not much you can
do about it, right, I mean so, but yeah, I

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mean it is, Um you need to make it a
national sport. Um. Let me let me put it this way.
I think it's great. And I think anybody who loves
college football looks and says a look all year, everyone's like, man,
Alabama's got this one. Maybe Clemson can beat them. So
the two best teams are gonna play. They're both undefeated. Um,

(01:10:08):
there's no question about that, and that's great, But it
would be the same thing is when you know if
it's just if it's just the same two teams in
the Super Bowl, people get tired. You want new storylines,
you want new faces, you want new fan bases that
are energized. You want people in different parts of the
country to believe they've got a chance. Um, and right

(01:10:29):
now they just don't. It's not competitive. I think there
is a two teams in college football Alabama Clemson. I
think Georgia is the only other team that's shown that's
a little bit. It's sort of there because they've at
least played Alabama close. UM. Other than that, there's not
much going on. Ohio State should be there, but then'll
be able to do it. The Pac twelves a waste

(01:10:51):
a waste and all this thing now you can expand
the playoff and give more opportunity to on Ohio State
or a Big Ten team. Um. But there's no question
there's a belief in the in the country that it's
all about the South. I mean, put this away. The
last since Ohio State won the title five years ago,
there's been three teams from the North that have made

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the playoff Michigan State, Ohio State, and in Notre Dame
this year. Those three teams combined to win, to score
three points in those three games. That's it. So the North.
If you throw Notre Dame in that, which certainly a
Northern team three points. In four years, the Pack Twelve
has seven. Washington scored seven in a game since the

(01:11:34):
since the first year in Oregon won. The last four years,
the Pack Twelve, the Big Ten, and all the North
have scored ten points. Uh, you know, forget it, it's
just not happening. No, that's an amazing stat. Uh. You're
in Michigan. What is the vibe on Jim Harbaugh coming
off of back to back really substantial beat downs, with

(01:11:58):
what happened against Florida and obviously what happened against Ohio State.
I think there's any chance he looks at the NFL
or do you think he is locked in still at
Michigan And what's the vibe up there in general? I
think he's gonna be back. Um, I think he really
wants to return Michigan to something, and to to leave

(01:12:21):
without beating Ohio State, to leave without winning the Big
ten um would be would be tough for him. Um,
you know, I don't know whether you can do it.
But with Urban Meyer gone and the way they have recruited,
obviously that is not panned out in these wins and
loss and they've been recruiting well. Michigan always recruits well
because if you ever go to Michigan or you look

(01:12:44):
at the academics and the whole thing, it's a great
place to go to school and play football. So why
wouldn't you want to go there? But I don't I
think he will be back. Um, the NFL will will
always be there for Jim Harbaugh if he really wants it.
And uh, he is a guy that that really believes
in all all the you know, the Michigan the team,
the chev Becklaer, all that. So I think he'll be back.

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But clearly there's a lot of frustration because it's not
just that they've lost these last two games. They looked
they looked horrible in this bowl game and you know
a lot of their guys sat out. But that's what's
been going on in these bowl games. I do think
fans need to change the way they consider these Bowl
games where it's so many players sit out now and

(01:13:27):
motivation has always been a factor and different things like that.
It's just I don't know that you should read too
much from these these Bowl games, but they do, and
and getting waxed on on whenever they played the twenty nine,
when they played the twenty night um certainly just made
a season that Michigan fans felt really good about just

(01:13:48):
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the longhorn on the field still. I mean, a longhorn

(01:14:53):
has got is not gonna shock you. Long horns and
they look pretty violent. And well, the the Georgia bulldog
was walking around the field before this game down in
New Orleans, and the longhorn is there as well. And
cue the music. Boys. I don't know if you saw this,
but the audio on it is pretty funny. The longhorn

(01:15:16):
was not happy that the Georgia bulldog was walking around
in front of him, and he stormed out of his pen.
And this is what it sounded like. There he is,
I'll go he does not know where to go. Oh
he's about That is adorable. They do not have a
scooper like people's hand moves, ladies and gentlemen. This is

(01:15:43):
like a man walking on the moon. Never for oh
my lord, oh oh, can lie of television get better
than that? No, maybe that was not the best idea,
but we don't care. You gotta refail that. Can we

(01:16:05):
get a replace that's targeting, that's targeting. I've seen a
lot of things. It was worth it, It was worth it.
It was awesome. Can you imagine if the longhorn had
killed the bulldog? Like, what if he caught him with
one of those horns and just stabbed, just stabbed him
and just yanked the bulldog like up in the air

(01:16:27):
and tossed it. Can you imagine the reaction if the
one like I'd have to say, I know they have
the Ralphie, the bull in uh In in Colorado and
the longhorn, Like it seems kind of crazy that they
have these huge animals come on the field and just
kind of hang around, right the longhorn with those those horns.

(01:16:48):
Would that have counted as too ws for Texas? Oh?
Can you imagine if the Georgia bulldog had gotten killed,
like just gotten the longhorn right in the gut and
then he just picks up the Georgia bulldog and throws
him across the field. I just I can't even imagine
the reaction. I think Bevo then definitely banned from being
on the fields. Anymore. You know they used to. I
don't think they do it anymore, right, They used to

(01:17:10):
bring out like the Mike the Tiger at L s
U inside of his tiger cage, and then I think
they decided that was in humane, So now they don't
wheel him in anymore. And you know, they have this
huge enclosure for Mike the Tiger near near L. S
U Stadium, which is pretty cool. But there are certain
animals they don't bring in anymore. And by the way,
we could have had a whole did you guys see

(01:17:30):
the before the noted to We haven't been talked about this.
Before the Notre Dame Clemson National title game, they had
a bald eagle that was supposed to land at midfield
the fan. They just it landed on a random fans
back in the stadium. This huge bald eagle with all
those talents just landed on a random Notre Dame fans shoulder.

(01:17:56):
And I gotta give credit to the fan who just
stood there and book it. I mean, like a bird
that big coming down and landing on you, I would
be terrified. Or can you imagine if it was a
kid like how easy it would have been to panic?
We got Bevo going crazy and nearly killing the uh
the handlers and or the Georgia bulldog. We got the

(01:18:18):
eagle that just swarms in and lands on the guy's shoulder.
Animal Thunderdome Bowl Game edition has been lit like there's
no telling what's gonna happen from one minute to the next.
We come back top of our three, we'll talk about
Georgia again whipped by UM Texas. What did that tell
us as the college football season really kind of came

(01:18:39):
to a close. I know on Monday we got Alabama
against Clemson, but all the games are now in the books.
What do we learn about this year? We'll also talk
with Barrett Sale to discuss that as well, and i'll
give you my stats on maybe I'll say that for tomorrow.
I'll say that for tomorrow, there's not as much going
on now that the football season basically over. I'll dive
into the college of the NFL coaching market um tomorrow.

(01:19:03):
So it's a tease a day in advance. If you're
interested in me ranking the eight open jobs in the
NFL right now and discussing the hiring season in the NFL,
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(01:19:44):
all of you spending your morning with us as the
sun rises across the land. Texas big win over Georgia
last night. Some of you may have gone to bed
before that one was complete because it didn't kick off
till what eight eastern? Am I right about that? Man?
That was a late night game, really late night game.
Texas wins to one got me thinking, as uh as

(01:20:08):
the college football Playoff has been has been going now
for five years, Ohio State one in year one. But
given the fact that Alabama and Clemson are going to
play against each other, fourteen of the last fifteen national
champs in college football will be from the South. And yes,
I count Texas As from the South. Fourteen of the

(01:20:31):
last fifteen from the South. And if you just heard
Dan Wetzel. In our last segment, Dan Wetzel pointed out
that in the last four years of the College Football Playoff,
the North, meaning the Big Ten as well as Notre Dame,
has combined to score three points and the West, which
is the Pact twelve, has scored seven points. So the

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regionalization of college football is underway in a massive manner
and as a result, the SEC and I count in
the SEC all of the SEC schools that have contended
for championships in the last twenty years Georgia, Tennessee, l
s U Florida, Auburn, Alabama. Honestly, Texas, A and M.

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The year that Johnny Manzel went eleven and two, I
think A and M would have made the College Football
Playoff and maybe won it with the way that they
were playing down the stretch that year. About half the
SEC has been in the mix for a national championship
in the last twenty years. You could even include South
Carolina and Arkansas if you wanted to be expansive in

(01:21:43):
Mississippi State because they have all been ranked very highly
in uh the BCS or College Football Playoff rankings at
some time or another. And then Clemson and Florida State
in the a SEC. Miami has blipped up a little
bit but hasn't and very consistent. Clemson and Florida State
typically are the class of the A C C. And

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then you've got in the Big Twelve Oklahoma and Texas,
which are typically the class of the Big twelve. That's
basically college football. And then you add in Notre Dame
and Ohio State, and maybe if you're being really generous,
you can add in the state of Michigan for Michigan

(01:22:26):
and Michigan State. If you really think about it, is
college football becoming what hockey is and insanely popular sport
in one particular region that the rest of the country
doesn't really feel like it's included. And I ran through

(01:22:48):
these stats because I thought they were really kind of
eye opening. This is the Orange Bowl. Where did people
watch the Orange Bowl Alabama against Oklahoma. Listen to the
top ten largest markets and see if you notice something. Birmingham, Alabama, Tulsa, Oklahoma,
Oklahoma City Greenville, South Carolina, Nashville, Knoxville, Columbus, Ohio, New Orleans, Atlanta,

(01:23:18):
and Jacksonville. Only one city that watched Alabama against Oklahoma
is from outside of the South. And yes, I count
Oklahoma as a southern state. Some of you may be
disagree with that. I think Oklahoma is a southern state,

(01:23:38):
just like I think Texas is a southern state. If
you consider it culturally, it fits more so in the
South than it does anywhere else. It's not Midwest, it's
not certainly the West. Oklahoma, along with Texas, to me,
is the South. All right. So nine of the ten
top markets in the country that watched Oklahoma play Alabama

(01:24:03):
from the south, all right, that's interesting. Notre Dame is
a northern school, right, Chicago's it's big market. Notre Dame
is a northern school. So what happens when a northern
school plays a Southern school? Right? What happens when Notre
Dame plays against Clemson? Notre Dame supposedly this team with

(01:24:26):
this massive national draw. Well, first of all, more people
watch Georgia play Alabama in the SEC title game this year,
then watched Clemson play Notre Dame in the College Football Playoff.
But where were the top ten markets to watch? Birmingham, Greenville,
South Carolina, Oklahoma City, New Orleans, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Columbus, Ohio, Nashville, Tennessee, Knoxville, Tennessee, Dayton, Ohio,

(01:24:59):
and at in A, Georgia. All right, this is pretty significant.
I think Ohio loves college football everywhere else that the
big markets are paying attention. It's all in the South
is as a result of the West coast basically being

(01:25:22):
left out. Oregon one a playoff game and beat Florida
State in year one of the College Football Playoff. In
year one of the College Football Playoff, you had Oregon
play Ohio State. Other than that year, the West and
the North have not mattered in the college football Playoff.
They have been shut out. Is that a sign of

(01:25:45):
the regionalization of college football that Nick Saban and the
SEC have so come to dominate college football? The best
players are all in the South. The city of Los
Angeles with the decline of USC and u c l
A and the arrival of two NFL franchises that are
into the playoff. When you consider the Chargers and the

(01:26:10):
Rams both in the playoff, has college football effectively become
like hockey. If you're from Detroit or Buffalo, or certainly
anywhere in Canada, you'll love hockey, But most of the
rest of the country really doesn't care that much. Is

(01:26:31):
that the case now with college football? I don't know.
It's interesting. I think college football certainly is much more
nationalized when Notre Dame is playing at a high level,
when USC is playing at a high level, when there's
some team in the northeast. Syracuse actually had a pretty
good year, but there's some team in the Northeast that

(01:26:53):
people are paying attention to. I don't know. Well, we'll
see what happens in this game between Alabama and Clemson
that's taking place in San Francisco, Santa Clara, to be specific,
but the Bay Area for people who haven't really spend
any time traveling around out there, will that make a
difference or will a fourth straight year of Clemson in

(01:27:13):
Alabama mean that the number of people who tune in
is going to continue to decline. I'll tell you this
ticket market just topped on StubHub ticket market right now.
Two and ten bucks gets you in to watch the
college football National Championship game in Santa Clara Bucks. This

(01:27:34):
might be a hundred dollar ticket. By the time it
gets to kick off on Monday afternoon. Out in the
Bay Area, I'm gonna be there. That's pretty wild Clemson
Alabama fans. It's expensive to travel out to the Bay Area.
It's not easy to get to Santa Clara. You don't
have to fly into Oakland or San Francisco, or you

(01:27:57):
have a connecting flight to get into San Jose A.
It's not easy to get to and as a result,
I think a lot of Alabama and Clemson fans are saying, Hey,
you know what, We've already won a national championship in
the past couple of years. We'll just kick back, put
our feet up, watch the game on television. We don't
win it this year, we'll go the next time we're

(01:28:19):
playing for a championship. Because I think both Clemson and
Alabama fans kind of assume that they're going to be
in the College Football Playoff again and they'll be contending
for championships in the year's ad. I think it's likely
right now, if you were setting odds for what the
game is gonna be next year, say a fifth straight
year of Alabama Clemson. Both these guys have got young

(01:28:40):
quarterbacks that are going to be back insanely talented wide
receiving corps. Clemson may take a little bit of a
step back on the defensive side of the ball. Alabama
is probably gonna be better next year than they are
this year, and they may go fifteen and O and
be the best team in college football history this year.
This is a relatively young Alabama football team when you
look at a lot of the skill positions. I know,

(01:29:04):
Texas one last night against Georgia, but in the college
football playoff and bowl games so far this year, Alabama
beat number four Oklahoma, Florida beat number seven Michigan l
s U won a national championship and beat number eight
Central Florida to end their long winning streak, and Kentucky

(01:29:26):
beat number twelve Penn State. Now Georgia got waxed, Georgia
didn't show up, didn't play well. But the SEC continues
to dominate college football, and the number one storyline in
college football has become reacting to the SEC. Oh, the

(01:29:47):
SEC is really good. Oh, the SEC is overrated. There's
a lot of obsession on social media, talk radio, everywhere
else with reacting to the SEC. It's the star straw
that stirs the drink, but nobody else is even close.
If you expand college football to include Clemson, Florida State, Oklahoma, Texas,

(01:30:11):
it's a regional sport from Oklahoma all the way down
to Miami. It's basically where champions are crowned and everybody.
Fourteen of the last fifteen champions are gonna be in
the SEC states. That's pretty wild. We'll talk about this

(01:30:34):
with barretts Sley coming up next. Whether it's good or
bad for college football? Our poll question that's up right now.
You can react to it. Yesterday, urban Meyer got a
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the post game that he had uh, and I don't

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Good deal. Let's go ahead and bring in barretts Lee,
he writes for CBS sports dot Com covers college football.
Barrett I said, I'd start with this question. It's obviously
our pole question of the day. Urban Meyer gets the
win over Washington in the Rose Bowl, he says he'll
never coach again. Do you believe him? No? I don't.

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And the majority of the reason why is that urban
Meyer could say the Earth is round and I'd say,
by God, it's last then, because I don't trust urban
Meyer at all. Um, So no, I don't believe him. Uh.
And the and the reason really uh more more than
that that I don't trust him for about anything is
the fact that you know, he's still even though he's
you know, had the head thing, he's still relatively young.

(01:36:29):
It's something that he knows how to manage, at least
enough to coach most of the time this season maybe
being the exception. And I think he still has the
itch to to see what he can do at the
NFL level. I don't think he'll coaching college again, because
college is a different animal. Um it's a it's a
sport in terms of coaching that it takes a specific
kind of person, and and Urban has done that, but

(01:36:52):
I don't think them. I think he's done it sort
of reluctantly because he knows he's good at it. I
don't necessarily think he uh wants to recruit anymore. I
don't think he wants to deal with, you know, the
things that go along with with coaching young kids, and
and maybe just maybe the thing that that suits him
best right now at this point in his career and

(01:37:13):
especially considering his health, is just to go out there
and coach the ball. And I think at the NFL
level he can do that. So I do think he's
done in college. Would I be surprised if if if
you coach at the NFL level. H. No, not at all.
In fact, I think at some point you will. He's
only fifty four years old. And I I just asked
this question in general. Um, if you were fifty four

(01:37:36):
and you just decide that you're not gonna do what
you do the best in your life at doing right,
doesn't matter what you do for a living. It can
be sell insurance, it can be sell cars, it can
be talking on the radio. But whatever you do, fifty
four still pretty young to just hang up the spikes,
the whistle, whatever you want to say and disappear. And
I don't think if you think about guys who have

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been extremely successful, you usually if a guy's going to
tap out, it's usually that he goes and does something
public again, like John Madden or John Gruden or something
like that, where they're so good at television, they still
stay stay connected in some way to the sport. I
don't remember the last guy to be successful like urban
Meyer and then just vanish and never coach again, do you?

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And again, I don't think urban Meyer is good enough
at TV to suddenly step into a booth and be
a revelation. He did a year of television with ESPN
before he went and coached at Ohio State, and I
didn't think he was that good. I didn't think you
said that much interesting stuff. I didn't think he was
like engaging or charismatic or must see television in any way. Yeah,

(01:38:38):
I agree. I mean, I think the one guy that
right now that does with that villa Jean because he's
because he's awesome at TV. But you're right, or urban
really isn't. No, I don't think there's that many people
beating down Jean Chiswick's door saying, hey, we want you
to take over this great job, and we'll pay you
eight million or ten million dollars a year to do it.
He's in TV by necessity, but he's also really darting

(01:38:58):
good at it. Um. Yeah, I know, I can't think
of a coach that has done that. I think there
is one that potentially is going down that path right now,
and that's Bob Stoops at Oklahoma. But he's only been
out of the coaching game for you know, for a
couple of years right now, so there's no telling that that,
you know, if he's gonna get back into coaching mix
or not. I don't believe he will. Um so he

(01:39:20):
would probably fit that bill eventually, but you can't prove
that right now, So no, I don't. I'm with you.
I think, you know, coaches have to coach, like that's
in their blood. And if if urban is you know,
just gonna right off froto the sunset, what's he gonna do?
People are getting People get bored, Like even if you're
a multimillionaire, I agree, that's my thing. Like, is he

(01:39:41):
gonna play golf every day? That's my Like at fifty four,
you're still relatively young guy. Bob Stoops about five years
older than urban Meyer. But yeah, like, I mean his
kids are grown, you know, it's not like he's, you know,
a guy who started a family late and he's suddenly
going to have all these kids to hang out with.
Like I think about that myself right now. My kids
want to hang out with me all the time. There

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ten eight and four. I know you've got young kids too.
In a decade, they're gonna have no interest with me.
I'll be, you know, forty nine years old. Then I'll
have all this time, and I don't know what I'll
do with it, right, You might as well do something,
even if it's not like your your primary source of
income are really impactful on your in your bottom line
at all. And for Urban Meyer, it wouldn't be uh,

(01:40:22):
just just go do something and um you know. Yeah.
So because of that, uh and because I think that
he uh may be tapped out in terms of dealing
with what college football is on sort of the outside
of the football aspect of it. I think if he
goes anywhere will be NFL. And I think you will
wait for the right choice and right situation if it

(01:40:43):
were to come along. So I don't think he's gonna
jump right back in, but at some point he's gonna
have to field some calls from the NFL, and I
would imagine that at one point one of those calls
is gonna be pretty enticing. What did Texas is win
over Georgia last night? Tell us that Texas is pretty good, um,
you know, and and that Georgia just didn't play a
great game. Um you know. It wasn't a case of

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Georgia not wanting to be there. I don't ever think
it's the case of a team not wanting to be
there because you may not be motivated to play and
Kirby Smart even said that the practices weren't great leading
into that game. But when you get punched in the face,
you punched back, and and Georgia tried to and couldn't.
The same thing that happened with Auburn last year against
u c F. They got punched in the face and

(01:41:27):
they couldn't punch back. So, um, to me, it's just
it says that Texas is pretty darn good. The fact
that that defensive line was able to get consistent pressure
on Jake from is a big deal. Uh. The fact
that Sam Ellinger took over that game is a big deal. Um.
So you know, to me, we're not going down the
road of Texas is back because we did that a
few years ago when they beat Notre Dame and we're

(01:41:49):
just not gonna do that again. But um, they're on
the way to be in back. They went to the
Big Twelve championship game. They wanted a New Year's six
Bowl game. There a a team that in the future
I think is gonna have um a lot of really
great battles with rival Oklahoma and a lot of times
it's gonna be twice per season like it was this year,
and for Georgia, I mean, look, it's just, hey, you

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got beat by a pretty darn good football team. And
you can say, okay, DeAndre Baker didn't didn't play, but
he ain't blocking DeAndre Baker ain't blocking Texas defensive front.
So um, you know, uh, I don't think bowl games
are referendums on conference power. It's just a matter of
Georgia not being that good, just like Florida was pretty

(01:42:30):
darn good against Michigan, LSU was pretty darn good against USTF.
This is you know, it's all about matchups in bowl games.
It's just their standalone TV shows. And and for for Georgia, uh,
it probably wished that one got canceled. There's a lot
of talk about expanding the college football playoff to eight teams,
and we're talking with barretts the Ley, CBS Sports dot Com.

(01:42:51):
And if you were interested in expanding to eight teams,
you look at the results that we've seen so far.
Number three got whipped. Uh now be four got whipped.
We also had a the fifth best team. We just
said last night Georgia lost Ohio State one, but the seven,
the eight, and the nine team all lost. There seems

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to be a big gap between Alabama and Clemson and
everyone else. First, do you think that is an aberration? Second?
Does that make you pause a little bit if you
are considering expanding to eight and say, what are we
trying to do here? I don't think in the innabiration
because more times than not, you're gonna have four, maybe
five teams per year that are really championship worthy based

(01:43:36):
on whatever the season gives us in terms of how
it plays out. So I don't think it's an aberration.
And I'm the biggest four team guy in the world.
Um adding adding four more teams means you've had automatic
bids for conference champions and you can't tell me that
Washington deserved the spot. You can't tell me that you
know an eight and four conference champion that springs an
upset in the camp conference championship game deserves to be there.

(01:43:56):
So um No, I mean it's a bad, bad time
to be an expanse and guy because when you see
that many teams lose, I think it's abundantly clear that
more times than nie they're only a select few that
our championship worthy and four is enough. Now there might
be a worthy team that gets left out every once
in a while. Maybe that's Ohio States this year. That's fine,

(01:44:17):
don't lose it for due by twenty nine points, you know. So, um,
you know yeah, I think this talk about expansion. This
has proven this this bowl season leading up to the
National Championship game that you know what, maybe just Clemson
and Georgia and Clemson and Alabama are are really darn
good at football. They are head and shoulders above everybody else.
And this idea that we have to fix the semifinals

(01:44:40):
because what six of the seven of the ten have
been awful? Why do we need to fix the semifinals?
That's not the goal of this. The goal is to
have a national champion that is worthy based on what
they've done in the postseason and what they've done throughout
the course of the regular season. And right now we've
got two teams that have earned, plain and simple. So, um,

(01:45:01):
we don't need to fix the semifinals. And I wrote
this on CBS just this past week. If you if
you want to do that, then you're adding teams that
you're ultimately going to be underwhelmed by later on down
the road. Anyway, So why do that? Why give those
teams the chance at a national championship when they haven't
earned it compared to what other teams have done. It's
just it's it's silly that that people like sort of

(01:45:22):
start connecting expansion dots that really are not meant to
be connected at all. Because this year has proven hey,
you know what, it's uh, it's it's one and two
and everybody else then yeah, you know, number one team
has never won the College Football Playoff and that's fine,
but that just proves that you're only supposed to have
four anyway. All right, let's go into this. I want

(01:45:44):
to just run through all these teams and see what
your reaction is. National champions since two thousand five Texas, Florida,
l s U Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Alabama, Alabama, Florida State,
Ohio State, Alabama, Clemson, Alabama. We know in eighteen it's

(01:46:08):
gonna be Alabama or Clemson. Again, going all the way
back to two thousand and five, the only school from
outside of the Southern footprint to win a championship is
Ohio State. You look at the ratings, Alabama against Georgia
outrated Clemson Notre Dame. Dan Wetzel was on with US

(01:46:30):
last hour, and he said, in the last four years
of the college Football Playoff, the Big Ten and the North,
uh including Notre Dame, has scored a combined three points.
The West, including everybody out west, has scored seven points,
that being Washington. Is this just a cyclical thing or

(01:46:53):
has college football effectively become a Southern sport. It's it's
it's a sun our sport with national appeal because those
teams still have chances, although I'll be at I'd say
a very small chance. It's just where the good players are.
You know that that's play of simple. It all comes
down to recruiting, and all of the good players are
in the Southeast. And so all of these teams that

(01:47:15):
you mentioned there are what six Southern teams through counting
the two a CC teams that have won national championships. Well,
they get the good players. They recruited at an elite level.
If you want to, you know, go be a a
superpower in a different region, you have to get two players.
And this year is a perfect example. To play seven
sports has a great tool that no one really talks about,

(01:47:37):
and it's overall team talent rankings. Right, Alabama was number
two this year. Ohio State was actually number one, but
then Georgia, I'm sorry, Clemson was number six, but the
Notre Dame was ten and Oklahoma was eleven. You've got
to have top tier talent to to win at a
national level, and only a handful of teams, i'd say

(01:47:59):
down to, you know, maybe even Clemson at number six
or or somebody else beyond them, have the kind of
players that can win a national championship. You don't have
to have a a just an Alabama roster full of
absolute superstars, but you've got to have, as you know,
at least thirty or thirty five star or thirty thirty
or thirty five, five or four star players to compete,

(01:48:21):
because those are the guys that you need when the
depth problems come into play. And in the SEC they
can handle that because they have all the good players
in the region and they get all the good players
in the region. It's your team outside of that footprint,
like a Notre Dame which is pretty good, like Washington
a couple of years ago, which is pretty good, Michigan
State a couple of years ago, pretty good. Um, you've
you have good good players, give good starters. You don't

(01:48:45):
have good backups And not only do you need those
throughout the grind of a season, you need those throughout
the grind of the other nine months of the season
because that culture of competition is built in practice every
single day. You have to worry about the opponent for
the three months of the season. You gotta worry about
your job for the other nine months of the season.
And that's what the great teams have. And the depth

(01:49:08):
outside of that, that footprint just isn't there. And that's
the reason why teams from the South consistently win at
an elite level. L s U beat Central Florida. You
CEF goes down. What are the chances that you SEEF
remains relevant a year from now? Relevant on the group
of five scale? Uh? Still very high. I mean, they're

(01:49:30):
the best group of five team in the country. It's
not even close right now. I think Houston could get
there because of what they've done from a resources standpoint.
But you CEF is is the best group of five teams.
And and that I wrote this yesterday to the game.
If you see F fans are disappointed, blamed, Danny White,
you know, blame your administration for this stupid charade for
the last year, getting your expectations way too high, because

(01:49:53):
just like I said, the talent is not there. L
s U was down to night string cornerbacks yesterday and
you c s secondary was the problem. Think about that
for a second. So um yeah, I mean you CEF
is a great group of five team, the best group
of five team in the country right now. I don't
even think it's closed, But anything beyond that is way.

(01:50:15):
L s U out gained them by three hundred yards
yesterday and L s u s offense it ain't great,
not at all. Um So yeah, I mean I think
Danny White's to blame. I think this whole charade backfired
over the course of the last three weeks in absolutely
epics fashion, culminating with the loss to l s U

(01:50:36):
and starting with the fact that U c F tried
to sell that it was way too good to do
a two for one for Florida will crazy when LSU
plays Florida every single year. I mean, so, I mean,
it's just it's so dumb. I would have jumped all
over that two for one if I was UCF, I
would have been ecstatic to get three years of playing

(01:50:58):
against Florida, even if I had to play two of
them on the road. That was crazy to me that
they tried to pretend like that wasn't a legitimate offer.
I couldn't believe Florida agreed to play him three straight years.
I mean to me, that was a huge olive branch
from Florida to even be able or willing to contemplate that. Yeah,
I mean, and there's no upside for Florida, and for
u CF to try to act like it's too good

(01:51:19):
for that UM, I think was sort of the peak
of this ridiculous UCF UM you know, national championship agenda
orchestrated by Daniel White. And then yesterday in the Fiesta
Bowl it came crashing down even further because I think
people realize, you know what, on a on a game
by game basis, u CF pretty healthy with the exception

(01:51:40):
of Mackenzie Milton, they can't beat L s U. Where
an L s U team that played, quite honestly, you
and I could have probably played in that secondary yesterday
they had nobody, like literally nobody, and they had one
reserve defensive lineman and so that issue is unlike anything
any team's ever seen in terms of of depth. And
L s U still won so I just it's um,

(01:52:03):
it's done at this point. You seef the joke last
year when Georgia lost to Alabama in excruciating fashion in overtime,
Georgia fans were like, Okay, yeah, that stinks, but it
was year two under Kirby Smart will be back your
three under Kirby Smart. Arguably Georgia losers to the three
best teams that plays against uh and finishes eleven and three.

(01:52:24):
Good season, not great season. If I told you right now,
next five years, does Georgia win a national championship, you
would say, what, Yes, Absolutely, They've got the team talent.
I think they've got the coach. Kirby Smart had some
misus this year, obviously with the fourth and eleven fake
punt call, but he's still relatively knew at this Uh yeah,
I'd say, beyond the shadow of a doubt, Georgia is

(01:52:46):
going to win a national championship. By the end of
that five year span. You're gonna have Clemson, Alabama, and Georgia.
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Clay Travis on Twitter. UH. The poll questions up. We
put it up about an hour ago. UH, and I
always enjoy seeing your responses. I figured that your response
would be interesting to this one that urban Meyer said
right after he won the Rose Bowl that he was
done coaching college football and coaching football in general. Do

(01:54:10):
you believe urban Meyer has coached his last football game?
As our question, Nearly fourteen thousand of you have voted
so far in the first hour, and eight one percent
of you are saying no, you did not believe urban Meyer.
Now could probably just make that question, do you believe
urban Meyer about anything? And eight one percent of you
may say no, But nearly fourteen thousand of you saying no,

(01:54:33):
you don't believe urban Meyer has finished his coaching career.
And I agree with you, and I'm telling you where
he's gonna coach next. And a lot of you are
waking up on the West Coast, and you might be
pretty happy about this if you're a USC trojan, because
I think he's gonna be the next head football coach
of USC. You paid attention this Cliff Kingsbury story. Kingsbury
has got at least two different NFL head coaching interviews.

(01:54:55):
He may well get hired, become the first person ever
to get five aired coaching college football and hired to
coach an NFL team. All in the space of like
a month. And if that happens, then Clay Hilton's USC
staff falls apart pretty quickly, right because Cliff Kingsbury was

(01:55:16):
gonna be the savior for that USC offense. He's gonna
come in. He's gonna make j. T. Daniel better everything
else surrounding the USC program. He's gonna give him some sex,
some sizzle. Everything associated with USC would in theory get
better with Kingsbury as their offensive coordinator. If he doesn't
take that job, Clay Helton is a dead man walking.

(01:55:38):
There's no way that Clay Hilton, with a brand new
coaching staff is gonna be able to suddenly turn around
USC and make Trojan fans believe that he's the guy
who should be in command and in control of that team.
What's gonna happen? Then? USC is beset now by challenges
in the l A media market. Remember when Matt Leiner

(01:56:02):
and Reggie Bush and Lyndell White, the USC Trojans were
the straw that stirred the drink in the l A
media market. They were the default NFL team. Well, now
what are you competing with? You got the Chargers rolling
into town there in the playoffs playing against the Ravens
this weekend. You've got the Rams playing in the coliseum,

(01:56:23):
the same stadium USC plays in. And oh, by the way,
they're good enough to get a buy and wait to
see who they're gonna play in the Divisional round of
the NFL playoffs. And oh, by the way, Lebron James
also came to town, and the Dodgers got good again.
And SC is out there saying, hey, wait a minute,
we're here. We're really good at football. You should care

(01:56:44):
about us. Even Chip Kelly's come in in Westwood and
he's eventually gonna win. I think at a decent level,
USC is like the ninth most important team suddenly in
the l a sports marketplace. What happens when you fall
that far, You spend a lot of money to climb

(01:57:04):
back to relevance. And I think that's what SC is
gonna do. Urban Meyer is gonna sit out for a year.
He's miraculously gonna get healthy. He'll only be fifty five
years old, which is younger than Nick Saban was when
he went to Alabama and started his dominant dynasty. Urban
Meyer is gonna sit around for a year. He may

(01:57:25):
do television he's not gonna really like it. He's not
gonna feel fulfilled. He's gonna be bored. His kids are
grown up, they have their own lives now, and he's
gonna be kicking around the house having nothing to do.
Fifty four and fifty five is not that old. So
when a lot of guys are coming into their prime
and coaching, they still got a decade left. And USC

(01:57:46):
is gonna fire Clay Hilton, and they're gonna be looking
for a savior, and they're gonna pay urban Meyer ten
million dollars a year. And by this time in right
after the first of the year, urban Meyer is going
to be throwing up the v He's gonna be the
next head coach of USC. I'm telling you that before

(01:58:07):
almost anybody has. I told you this when urban Meyer,
before he had even retired at Ohio State, I said,
look at urban Meyer's history. Leaves Florida, sits out a year,
takes over Ohio State, goes and dominates. The Pack twelve
is as bad right now as the Big ten was.
When urban Meyer went to take over the Ohio State program,

(01:58:29):
he could go into sc recruited an elite level, have
them back as a top ten caliber team within a
year or two, and then he could potentially win a
national championship at his third different schools, something that no
one has ever done before, and he could make a
hundred million dollars doing it. Urban Meyer will be your
next USC Trojan coach. Write it down, go ahead and

(01:58:52):
get the prediction ready. And next year after he sits
out for a year, when it happens in urban Meyer's
throwing up the V you can say the first person
I heard saying this, Clay Travis, appreciate you spending your
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