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The Lakers go out and shoot the best from three
points uh the three point line that they've ever shot
in the history of the franchise. Not kidding about that
three point shots can on a nightly basis swing the
outcome of a game in a substantial fashion. Last night,
the Lakers shot twenty two of forty one, including if

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you were watching that game against the Celtics, some ridiculous
makes down the stretch. And I don't just say that
because I had the Celtics on the money line and
I was robbed highway robbery once more. I've got the
worst luck going right now, maybe in the history of gambling.
If you start about the time that I lost thirty
thous dollars on the worst call in the history of

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the NFL, and then you got h the Celtics up
six points with a minute and a half left, They're
up three and Lebron James is going going out of
bounds and throws the ball wildly back over his shoulder.
It's somehow bounces right to a Celtics player and he
gets a wide open three from the corner uh to
tie it. And then the Celtics play perfect defense block

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a shot, somehow are unable to grab the ball at all.
It bounces all the way out to Region Rondo, who
can't make a jump shot for his life for most
of his career, and he drains a jumper at the
buzzer for the Celtics to lose by one, for the
Lakers to win by one. I think we got audio
on that. It's awful. It's horrendous, it's brutal. Here's what

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it's nothing like balls for the league. Rondo come back
to Boston. I mean, it was so bad. Even Lance
Stevenson was three for five from three. But here's the
big takeaway in the larger context, now that the NBA

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trade deadline has passed, the Lakers are dead and the
la Aakers may be dead for the entirety of the
time that Lebron James is with them in Los Angeles,
because the big storyline, notwithstanding what happened with the Celtics
win last night, which is fool's gold, it really is,
and I'm not even just a twenty two out of
forty one from three will probably not happen again for

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a decade for the Lakers. They aren't going to shoot
that well from three point probably for another decade. And
they won by one point on the road despite shooting
from three, which is just an unheard of uh percentage
to make on three point shots. Nobody wants to play
with Lebron, and nobody likes Rich Paul and nobody likes

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the way Lebron James has broken the NBA. Let me explain.
Lebron James made the decision three different times to leave
his team when he was an unrestricted free agent. He
went to Miami, he went back to Cleveland, and now
he's gone to Los Angeles. Along the way, those decisions
broke the NBA. Let me explain why there is no

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franchise tag in the NBA. So unlike in let's say
the NFL, where if a player decides he wants to
play out his contract and then he wants to bail
on the team Alwah Kirk Cousins, the team has a
couple of years to figure out what to do and
to maintain the relationship with the player. What was told

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of so many different NBA franchises was if you stink
right now, go into the lottery, draft the best players
that you can develop those players and you can climb
to compete on a championship level. That is a lie,
because if the player that you have drafted decides that

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he doesn't like the size of your city or the
amount of attention he gets there. Alwah Anthony Davis with
the Pelicans. Then that player forces basically the entire team
to fall apart. And this is a major flaw that
exists right now in the NBA. The biggest flaw that

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exists right now in the NBA is Lebron Dwyane Wade
and Chris Bosh created the idea that superstar should all
pair up together, and as a result, the era of
the super team was created, which basically meant that about
twenty five or twenty six teams in the NBA have

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no chance to win a championship. And I've been ahead
of the curve on this because I think it is
a disaster for the NBA's overall brand and for the
league in general, because if you compare them with every
other pro sports league in America or even pretty much
every other pro sports league in the world, the NBA

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is the only league where ninety percent of teams on
the day the season starts have no chance to win
a championship. And ultimately, what is it that makes fans
tune in to the season. It's the quest for a championship.
Your team might not win a championship, but if you

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are in NFL, Major League Baseball, if you are a
NHL fan, if you are a fan of any other
pro sports league in America, they can sell you hope,
especially if your team makes the playoffs. And I think
what has happened certainly is one Lebron got one up

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to by the super team. The Warriors took the super
team to another level. They're infinitely better than the Heat
have ever been. Two. Lebron is aging, and he's got
young guys on his team that have some talent, but
nobody else wants to play with him. Nobody else wants
to play with Lebron j Animes right now because the
league is unhappy with what Lebron has created, and nobody

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else wants to do business with the Lakers. That's the
real story of the Anthony Davis debacle. Lebron and Rich
Paul and Anthony Davis all got together and they said,
you know what, We're gonna leak directly, not even leak,
We're gonna directly under our name, put out there that
Anthony Davis wants off the Pelicans. That's despite the fact

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that Anthony Davis had eighteen months left on his contract,
and they thought that would so pressure the Lakers and
the Pelicans that they would have to make a deal
and that Anthony Davis would finish out this year with
the Lakers. They really thought this was gonna work. Instead,
it did the exact opposite. I think that Anthony Davis

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is gonna get traded and he's not gonna get traded
to the Lakers, and it's gonna be just like what
happened when the Spurs decided to trade Kauai Leonard after
Kawhi Leonard demanded a trade. They specifically did not give
the Lakers a chance to get Kauai Leonard because they

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didn't want to reward Lebron James and the culture he's
created in the n b A. And then on top
of that, Kawai Leonard goes to Toronto. We'll see what happens.
But while everybody else has been paying attention to the
Lakers and talking about how much everybody wants to play
in Los Angeles, the Clippers have actually cleared up more

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salary cap space and they're actually in a better shape
as this season works its way out. Now, maybe Lebron
is gonna make the playoffs as an eight seed. Maybe
as a seven seed, they have a zero percent chance
of contending for a championship. This year, and I think
more ominously in the off season. I'm not sure they're

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gonna get a really good player to pair with Lebron
James as he continues to age. I think it's possible
that Lebron has gone to Los Angeles and all of
his relevance from a championship perspective has left with it. Maybe,
if you want to sketch out the best possible outcome,
Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, they go to New York, more

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talent leaves the West and moves east, which is the
exact opposite of what we saw for most of the
last decade. Maybe Lebron can persuade one big name to
come sign with the Lakers, although who that big name
is becomes increasingly less likely as you survey kind of
the landscape in general. I think Kauai is going to

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go to the Clippers. I think the Clippers have a
decent chance to sign another big time playmaker, and I
just don't know who the person is who wants to
really connect himself to Lebron James. As Lebron turns thirty
six next year, as he stares down basketball mortality and
begins to become worse and wor over the course of

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his the remaining career. I think we're probably gonna end
up with a Kobe Bryant situation with Lebron James with
the Lakers, where a guy's drastically overpaid relative to what
he actually is making. So last night was fool's gold
with the Celtics. The bigger story is Lebron, Rich Paul

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and Anthony Davis all whiffed and the rest of the
NBA doesn't want the Lakers to succeed and as a result,
they're not gonna deal with them, and I think that
is gonna be long range a major issue for Lebron
and the Lakers, who I don't think will ever win
a championship. Now, uh, we'll take your open phone calls

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I thought was safe. I did a three game money
line parlay. For those of you don't know, money line

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is just betting on a team to win, not based
on a line. So I bet on Gonzagata win. They
blow out San Francisco. I think it was not remotely close.
I bet on Oklahoma City to beat the Grizzlies, not
remotely close. And I bet on the Celtics to beat
the Lakers, and that was the right side, and I

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still ended up losing. And that's why I say, I'm cursed,
just absolutely cursed. Now I've lost the week and lock
it in again when I should have if that stupid
Rondo bucket hadn't happened, or if somehow the Celtics had
just gotten the ball as Lebron James is going out
of bounds with forty seconds left or whatever the heck

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it is, and he just flings it backwards and what
should have been a clear turnover, and somehow it goes
right to a Laker who then kicks it back to
him for a three in the corner. This is a
brutal series of bad luck. Having said that the Lakers
are dead, They're buried, put the dirt on him. They're
finished now. I think they're finished for years to come.

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Nobody wants to play with Lebron James. He's an old
ass dude who is on the back side of his career.
And then as soon as Rondo hit that shot, I'm like,
I gotta go in and talk to all these Laker
losers on my show, who are gonna be running around
like they just won a championship back in the eighties
with pat Ryle. I think you're gonna go to us
in the Laker Losers. First of all, Danny G is back.

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Danny G is like he's sick because he went to
the Super Bowl after all the bragging that he did
about how much better he was gonna be than Jason Martin,
because he showed up for five straight days on Radio
Row and he managed to handle it. He misses two
days this week because his delicate immune system fell apart
as soon as he got back. I don't even know.

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I gotta give j Mark credit here because j mart
went nine out of ten days. He also went missing.
He went missing during the biggest week of the year,
though early every single show he missed one of the
biggest days of the biggest week of the year, but
then the week after he was still healthy. He was
still there. I don't know why. I'm surrounded with people

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with the worst immune systems on the planet. Do you
know how many days I have missed on this show
in four different calendar years for sickness? Zero, not one? Six.
I'm not even sure it's the truth, I do. You
never step outside your house, Well, that's that's but you
know what, I got three little kids bringing in uh

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petri dish of of of illnesses all the time. Well,
that's true. That's why you have a strong immune the deal.
I don't even know if I have sick leave. I asked.
This is not even a joke. I did I not
text you recently and say, hey, do we get sick leave?
Nobody's even told me because I haven't missed a day
for being sick, and I'm probably jinxing myself now, I'm

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not even sure. Now, a lot of people out there like, yeah,
but you missed it. Yeah, I take vacation. I take
time off like I'm gonna be on next week, and
then I'll be off the next week after that, the
President's Day week. I usually try to get away because
football season is over, so I'll get away for vacation.
But in terms of actual sickness, I have yet to
miss a day, so I'm not even sure. I asked,

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I think we get sick leave. I texted our boss
Scott Shapiro the other day. Never responded, I don't even know.
I like, if I'm near death, I don't even know
that I have to obligate the opportunity not to come on.
So lots of people complain like, hey, like, your voice
doesn't sound perfect. Yeah, that's because I'm sick, and that's
because I'm on the radio. So anyway, the Lakers suck. Sure,

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sounds like Lebron penetrated that amazing immune system of yours fools?
Are you really gonna stick with that fool's gold? Because
usually even when you're wrong, unless you lose like thirty
thou dollars, you're a little more objective than this. No,
this was this was out of forty one. You even
convinced your TV co host yesterday. By the end of

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the show, they were even agreeing with you about this
dumpster fire with a capital D. The rest of the
Lakers season is a wash. Head shot sixteen forty one,
focus on the lottery, a phenomenal day three point shooting.
They would have lost by seventeen in this game, Clay.
If the Lakers would have made their free throws, they

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have won this game by fifteen. Well, they're they're not
going to It's true that they would have shot free
throws ordinarily better, but the percentage by which twenty two
out of forty one from three is fool's gold. If
you shoot fifty from three again, if they just shot
sixteen forty one, that's that's a phenomenal day of shooting,

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by and large. If any other team had their back
to the wall like this and had the media breathing
down their neck the way you and everyone else nationally
was lamb basting the Lakers all week long, and you
thought they were gonna lay down. You said they were
gonna get blown out by the Celtics. You raved about
it all day long yesterday. Nobody wants to play with Lebron.

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He's gonna have to shoot the ball a hundred times
because teammates don't want to play with him, and the
Lakers showed up, showed up in a major way, showed
a lot of heart, and proved to you and other
people who just started watching basketball right after the football
season ended that they had a good thing going before
Lebron's injury. They are not going to win a series

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in the playoffs if they even make the play Yeah,
and the Patriots aren't going to make the playoffs now,
They're not gonna win a series even if they make
the playoffs. Write it down, bet as much as money
as you want on it. The Lakers are a dead franchise.
Celtics Magic Johnson walking around like a mummy out there.

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He's got no idea what he's doing. They can't get
anybody to come join Lebron James because Lebron is getting
old and because none of the other teams want to
deal with them. This is a team that is falling apart.
The best thing they can have happened for them is
if another team falls apart as well. And that's like

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Kevin Durant deciding to go to UH New York and
taking away some of the top talent in the Western Conference.
But I don't think you can grab this audio. You
can hold it for the next ten years, however long
Lebron thinks he's gonna play. Lebron James is not going
to win another championship in the NBA. And I don't

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even think he's gonna come close to winning one unless
and this is my caveat unless when his time with
the Lakers runs out in three more years, he still
wants to continue to play in the n b A
and he decides to then be like a vagabond, you know,
ninth guy on a bench where he's going to try
to steal championships by being a low man on the

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totem pole. That I I legitimately have no doubt at
all about that. Does anybody else agree with me? Dub
Are you with me here? I don't bet against Lebron Clay,
So you think Lebron is gonna win another championship? Yeah,
you're wrong? Does any ed? What? Does? Eddie? Garcia? Eddie?
Do you agree with me that Lebron is never gonna
win another championship? I'm leaning that way. How about that?

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That's at least helpful. I can't rely on any kind
of reasonable he doesn't need it. Just sounds like you're
fishing right now. No, let's go and take some calls.
Eight seven seven six three six nine Tavaris in North Carolina?
What's up to vrs C team? Man? I love you,
but I have to disagree with you. We we just

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witness has some barns get traded in the middle of
a game and then not play the second half because
of ownership and the way they do business and the
way that they hold somebody's destiny in their hands when
they are a mediocre player or uh average NBA player.
When you are a great player like Lebron, you can

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own your own destiny and you make the calls. What's
wrong with that? That's called being a boss and then
letting your He's being a boss, but he's not that
good at being a boss, because if he were, he
wouldn't have totally mishandled and misplayed this Anthony Davis situation
such that Anthony Davis is never going to play with

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the Lakers until maybe he signs as a free agent
in a year and a half when Lebron is seventy
four years old. But Clay, that's when Anthony Davis. Davis
was on the bench. What did the Pelicans look like?
That's their mistake. They didn't take what the Lakers will
offer them offering them Lebron James, how many times had
this man have been in the finals. He's a winner,

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He's a winner. What what? What negative do we have
to say about Lebron regarding I mean, we could talk about,
you know what we don't like as far as basketball
and his decisions that he made, but but personally he's
he's perfect, He's Tom Brady esque. He just didn't win championships.
He takes teams to the finals. What what? What this is?

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This is my thing with Lebron stands out there. Why
is going to the finals and losing an incredible accomplishment?
This is all about the millennial generation. They don't talk
about championships anymore. They talk about almost winning championships. Oh,
look at Lebron, He's he's been in the big game
a ton and he's lost. Wait a second, though, just

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a couple of weeks ago, you gave a take on
this show saying that a player's reputation shouldn't take a
ding because they got to the finals or super Bowl,
and largue that he deserves to be on a different
caliber because he gets to the finals and loses. I'm
saying I'm putting Lebron James in the exact same spot

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I would if he was three and oh right in
the finals as the fact that he's three and six.
But I'm also not gonna sit around and say that
if Tom Brady had been to nine Super Bowls and
he had gone three and six in those nine super Bowls,
that a big part of Tom Brady's legacy wouldn't have
been his failure to win super Bowls when he got there.

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Is it still better to get to the Super Bowl
than to lose before you get there? Sure, but I
don't think you can brag about the fact that you
have lost a lot. Like I got so close to
making the summit of Mount Everest, all right, that's kind
of a good thing. This dude, Like, imagine this guy
decided he was gonna climb Mount Everest, and right before

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he got to the summit, six times he got altitudes
sickness and he wasn't able to make it there. Well,
it's still impressive, but it's not like I'm gonna say, like, hey,
look at this dude. He went up nine times to
try to make it to the summit, and six times
he got altitude sickness and didn't make it the rest
of the way. Yeah, it's kind of good. I guess
that you have the toughness to be able to get close.

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But I'm not gonna brag about you almost doing something.
I don't think you should be able to say like that.
That's my thing on the Jordan's people. The Jordan people
who are like, well, he's six and oh in the finals. Yeah,
because he lost a bunch of times to the Detroit
Pistons in the Eastern Conference finals. He lost when he
came back to the Orlando Magic. I don't think you

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can just brag about being six and oh in the
finals and ignore other losses. But I do think if
Jordan had gone to the finals nine times and he
went six and three like Tom Brady, that's more impressive.
Let me bring in Eddie Garcia find out what Jagan alright, Claire.
We had the NBA trade deadline, of course on Thursday.
Anthony Davis, the big name, did not go anywhere. He's

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gonna finish out the season with the Pelicans. Players that
did move included the Raptors getting Marc Gasol from the Grizzlies,
the Bucks pick up Nicola meritage from the Pelicans and
the seventy six ship down. Former number one overall picked
Marco Folds to the magic on the court, Lakers beat
the Celtics in Boston and a re gen Rondo buzzer beater.
Lebron James had a triple double in the win twenty points,
twelve rebounds and twelve assists. Raptors over the Hawks one

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nineteen to one on one. Toronto gets its fortieth win
of the year. Raptors are forty and sixteen on the season.
Thunder over the Grizzlies one seventeen ninety five. Russell Westbrook
gets his eighth three triple double fifteen points, thirteen rebounds
and fifteen assists for okay See Pacers over the Clippers
one sixteen nine two. Trailblazers top to Spurs on eighteen.
College basketball number four Gonzaga had no trouble beating San
Francisco ninety two to sixty two. Wins for number in twelve, Houston,

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everywhere coming out of the woodwork showing up. All the
Lakers are back. What's up? Eric? Yeah, clearly you're wrong.

(26:49):
I think this is a two year plan, and I
think this off seasons are going to make the move
to get a dan if they if they don't, don't,
they'll pivot to get another stud along Lebron. And we're
sure if they're supporting Kenny that they would win a
championship in the first year together. And you're seeing they've
got good assets and this this this offseason magic and blink,
I are going to make the moves to surround Lebron.

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So this wasn't a one year plan. They're not gonna
win in their first year together. And no Laker fan
and that delusional that that that would happen, So you're
way off and wrong again. You're in the most delusional
fan base in America. They're not gonna win a championship
with Lebron James period. By the way, you can bet
on this at the super book in Las Vegas if
you're so confident, go out to Las Vegas. Will the

(27:30):
Lakers win a championship by the two NBA finals? So
that's nine two, that's the four years Lebron is signed
on for right, Yes, is plus one seventy five, so
you can make nearly two to one on your money
if you believe so desperately the Lebron is going to
win a championship. No is minus two ten. So all

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the smart people out in the desert will take your
money at plus one seventy five. Trip just past that
along to me, they're smart. Eric in Hollywood and all
the other Faker Laker fans out there that are delusional
are losing their minds over this. This fool's gold win
Victor in l A what's up? Victor? Hey, what's go on?
I love the show. Look, I don't know, give me

(28:16):
your take on this. I would have given the house
God Davis, I don't play with Lebron now, got canna
lose this season out? Just dip them know how to
be quhiscent with each other. Then next year it wouldn't
be just Lebron pulling in another free agent. They would
have got somebody big. And then when you have three people,
I would have the only person that would not have
given up was Rondal kept him giving up the house,

(28:37):
kept them three, got another free agent, and then you'd
be able to make a real challenge for the Well. Look,
I think that the Lakers were willing to give up
whatever they needed to in order to get Anthony Davis.
I think that the Pelicans wanted to wait and see
what happens with the NBA Draft lottery. Who wins it? Uh?
And then also that that I think the Pelicans believe

(28:59):
they're gonna get Aason Tatum, and I think they see
Jayson Tatum from the Celtics as the best possible fit
for their franchise going forward. So I think they're trying
to get as much as they possibly can, and they
see Tatum as an incredible possibility that's dangling out there
that Danny Jane just convinced them he might give up,

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and they see that as the best route to remake
their franchise as rapidly as they passed up possibly can.
In real time, Andy and tennessee what's up? Andy? What's up?
What's up? Club? I got? I got two things for you. One,
I can't stand when a Lebron fanboy gets on there
and talks about all the finals that he's made in

(29:40):
his career. I would say he's probably had the second
best team three times in his whole career. That team
he had last year was probably the sixth seventh. That's
a really good point and how bad the Eastern Conference is.
So we should also put in the perspective when they've
gotten to the Eastern Conference and they've gotten their asked
kicked and it hasn't been remotely close like the last

(30:02):
couple of years, is it really an accomplishment to get
there when you're nowhere near the second best team. You
just happened to be in a really weak conference for
the last seven or eight years and uh and and
and another thing. I was going to the election games
when they come to uh Charlotte or come to Atlanta
when they were Sorry, but I did not want Lebron

(30:22):
James on this team because you know exactly what was
gonna happen before he got on the team. You know,
Luke Walton's getting fired, that's happening, and you knew that
he was trading players. Does the clown he's the clowns
he uh. I did not want that dude on the team.
He's just the cancer. And what KD said about that
man is the absolute truth. And his family in the

(30:45):
media did not want to hear it. Thanks for to
call eight seven seven six three six nine. Um, when
you think about it, it's a good point. Should have
just brought that up immediately when you're not remotely close
to winning a championship and you get there, becaus your
side of the conference is so weak, Can you really
brag about that last year? What would the Calves have

(31:06):
been the fourth or fifth best team in the Western Conference.
Isn't that the same argument Brady haters make about the
division his team plays now. I don't think so at all,
because the A F C is not overall really weak.
You still have to get into the a f C
and win playoff games. Is it true that the Jets
and the Bills and the Dolphins have been dumpster fires collectively? Yes,

(31:29):
but that's only six games of the season. They still
have ten other games against all the best teams in
the NFL theoretically, but it's still about the Patriots damp
home field advantage. Still have to get into the playoffs
and win those games, and you still have to win
the Super Bowl. I mean, look Lebron. If you think
about Lebron in the finals, he got a miraculous ray

(31:51):
Allen three. He's won three game seven's, right, Am I
correct in that? I think I'm correcting that that. If
you change, maybe there's only two game seven's. I know
they beat they beat the Spurs to win in seven,
I think right when they hit the Rayal three. They
certainly won in seven against the Warriors, and I believe
they won in seven the first time. Might have been

(32:13):
six games the first time. I can't remember the first championship.
But if you go back and look at those, you
change like one play in each of the three years
that he's won the title and there oh and nine.
I mean he has been incredibly fortunate in the way
that they have won those championships, and in the six
that they haven't won, they haven't been close. It's not

(32:36):
like you can point to any of the six that
he lost and say, well, if you change a couple
of plays, the calves or the heat could have won
those series. No. So Lebron has been insanely fortunate in
the three times that he won a championship that when
he's gotten it there he's gotten a big play made
by a teammate, made by somebody. And look, he made

(32:57):
the block against uh against Dragodal, I think it was
in Game seven. But this guy is closer to oh
and nine by far than he even is to four
and four and five or six and three or five
and four. When we come back, we'll take more of
your calls. Also, Major League Baseball has done and made

(33:20):
the wokest decision maybe of the year in pro sports.
If you haven't heard about the major change to Major
League Baseball, your eyes are gonna roll so far back
into your head that you may pass out. This is
out kicked. The coverage on Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back

(33:46):
Geiko out Kicks Studios. We get a couple of your
calls in here quickly, John, Indianapolis, what's up, John? Yeah,
So I was at the game the other night. Um,
second time I've been the last two games of Lebron
played Indianapolis. He's got blown out. I mean Patris have
killed him, and rightfully so. I mean we lost Paul George.

(34:09):
I mean Lebron came in and he tried to do
the same thing with Anthony Davis in Indianapolis. He tried
to Paul Pulp pul Paul George out and George did
silent the Lakers. And you have to understand George wasn't
only friends with Lebron James. He was also friends with
Dwyane Wade. And you don't think George talked with Wade

(34:30):
before he chose to sign with Okay See and Russell Westbrook.
I mean Wade, he didn't want to leave Cleveland, threw
laid under the bus. I mean he threw his best friend,
this person responsible for two championships. You don't think that
resonates with other NBA players. I mean you can't trust Lebron. Yeah,

(34:55):
I agree, I agree. I also think that Lebron is
aging which is making a bigger and bigger impact JJ
in Indiana. What's up, JJ, Clay always appreciated getting off
the graveyard shift. Just want to give property Indiana for
bringing someone consisted in and Wesley to take that little
spot that on the depot that uh, since he's been
down with his injury, he's not on the depot, but

(35:17):
at least there will be some type of stability there. Secondly,
this is more inquisitive. What are your thoughts since A
D did not sign with Lakers, which everybody knew he
was not going to. Now he's gonna play the season out.
You know that he can't play with Kyrie because of
the whole rookie clause the deal that's going on right now.
What are your thoughts of the possibility of k D,

(35:40):
A D and Irving showing up in Knickerbocker uniforms. Yeah,
that would be incredible if you're If you're a Knicks fan,
I don't think that Knicks would have the space to
sign three guys to a max contract deal. But but
I do think it's intriguing to think about whether one
of those guys, are two of those guys, are all
three of those guys? My take a little bit less

(36:01):
than the MAX in order to be able to play together. Um,
and that you know, of course, he's talking about the
possibility that the Knicks have created the space for Kevin Durant,
Kyrie Irving, who knows who else, that they might be
able to get two MAX players and bring him in.
David Nashville, what's up, Dave? What's going on? Yeah? The uh,
the Lakers. I think they'll be good if they had

(36:22):
another superstar to that roster. I think they could win
a championship for sure. But um, as far as the
Bosting game, Um, I set asleep in the fourth quarter.
But Kylerie was shooting horrible. I mean, he had a
horrible game, and at least they possibly win that game.
What about Boston not being able to close out big games?

(36:45):
I think that should definitely be in the conversation. Yeah,
Kyrie was five for twenty or five for or six
for twenty one or something like that from the floor.
But he did take control of the game late and
made what should have been the game winning shot if
the ball hadn't bounced perfectly to Jon Rondo to allow
him to to make the shot that he did. Ryan
and Vermont. What's up, Ryan, hey Man, A couple of

(37:07):
takes ago. You're saying, Um, it's like Ray Allen and
all the big supporters that Lebron had to win those
championships with those big plays or those big shots, don't
go in if he's like oh and nine or whatever
in the finals. The same thing happened for Tom Brady
if he drives his team down and not a monitary misses.
All those kicks that Tom Brady has on his resume
because of those phenomenal kicks. But Brady has never gotten

(37:28):
run hold on. Brady has never gotten run in the
Super Bowl. Right. Brady has been in nine Super Bowls.
Lebron has gotten swept. He's gotten whipped. The games of
the series have never been close. Tom Brady has never
held into a Super Bowl and lost by thirty points
in the Super Bowl. Yeah, I like to take yeah. Thanks.

(37:50):
Nine times Tom Brady has made it to the Super Bowl,
and nine times the Patriots have been in position to
win in the fourth quarter. R Brady has got six
game winning drives into overtime or the fourth quarter. But
he's also lost three really close games, and arguably the
three close games he's he's lost, they should have won

(38:14):
all three. So the fact that he's had some breaks
in close games. Look, they were better than the Giants
and Eli Manning the two games that they lost to
the Giants, Wes Welker just dropped what should have been
a game ceiling first down pass from Tom Brady. If
you remember in one of those you had the crazy
David Tyree helmet on the helmet catch. So to me,

(38:39):
you put yourself into the position. Could the Patriots be
three and six in the Super Bowl? Yeah? Could they
be nine and oh yeah? So they've been in a
position to win all nine of those, whereas Lebron in
most of the trips that he's made to the finals,
the outcome of the series was never in doubt. So

(38:59):
I think there's a pretty substantial difference between those guys.
All Right, I tease this at the last segment. I'll
give it to you to start our two. We've got
two interesting stories that I'm gonna start off hour two
with one. We got an update on my guy, Doug Adler.
If you remember Doug Adler, he was fired for using
the phrase guerrilla effect two Major League, by the way,

(39:21):
using the phrase guerrilla effect during a Venus Williams match,
and it was guerrilla as in guerrilla warfare, not as guerrilla.
The Animal to Major League Baseball with the wocust move
so far of a pro sports league in twenty nineteen.
When I tell you what they did, you are going
to maybe pass out, fall down on the feinting couch,

(39:43):
and clutch your pearls. It's pretty unbelievable. All that and more.
Appreciate you spending your Friday with us. Go download the
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(40:28):
Let's start with the positive year as we begin our
to appreciate you spending your Friday morning with us. If
you remember a couple of years ago, I think now, Uh,
Doug Adler, who was a tennis commentator at ESPN, was
calling a match from the Australian Open involving Venus Williams

(40:49):
and there do we have the audio, guys? I think
we have the audio here. Uh. This is what it
sounded like when he was calling that match. This is
the first serving v this is all over her. She
Venus move in and put the gorilla effect on. So

(41:14):
he met as guerrilla tennis. If you remember the commercial
with Andre Agassy and uh and and uh Pete Sampras
where they played in the streets of of New York.
He meant guerrilla warfare, as in she's tat, he's charging,
and she's charging in unexpected times. Someone on social media

(41:36):
clipped this, uh, this match and then argued that he
was calling her a gorilla as in the animal. ESPN panicked,
They fired him after making him apologize, and Doug Adler
was publicly branded a racist. Most people out in sports media,

(41:57):
we're not willing to let Doug Adler uh even like
show the remotest UH like sense of you know, questioning
whether or not that was actually anything racist, which it wasn't.
It's a ludicrous era that we live in where people
are so quick to take offense and to label things racist.

(42:17):
So we had him on this show, uh, and we've
had him on this show either two or three times.
The only media, only media entity anywhere in the country
that would talk to this guy. Then the Today Show
ended up doing a story and he filed a lawsuit.
He filed the lawsuit arguing that ESPN had unfairly treated him.
And if you remember this story, he was so crushed

(42:40):
by the negative media attention and the loss of his
good name, then ultimately ended up having a heart attack.
He almost died. He's been fighting this battle for a
couple of years. Well, he filed a lawsuit and it
was set to go to trial in Los Angeles in May.
And finally ESPN has admitted wrongdoing here. And I gotta

(43:04):
give credit to the new president of ESPN, Jimmy Pittaro,
because I'm told that this decision went all the way
to the top of ESPN. They said, you know what,
we screwed this guy. We treated him unfairly. Guerrilla effect
as in guerilla warfare, not guerrilla as in the animal
And so they have brought now Doug Adler back. They

(43:27):
have paid him out a big settlement, and he now
has a contract with ESPN to come back and call
tennis matches. So this is I think an ideal solution
to this issue. About as good of a story I
think as you will get in the world of sports,

(43:47):
where a big company like ESPN is effectively acknowledging you
know what, we overreacted to the social media mob. We
over uh, we overreacted to what was clearly not a
racist comment by Doug Adler. And not only did we
do this wrong, We're gonna pay this guy out a
bunch of money and damages, and we're gonna rehire him

(44:10):
and allow him to call tennis matches once more on
the ESPN network. Doug Adler feels like he got his
name back. He feels like he has gotten vindication. That's
what he's been after for two years. It almost killed him.
This is a positive story. I think that we, as
a part of the larger OutKick universe, deserve a lot

(44:32):
of credit for helping to right a wrong here. And
I feel almost confident that if we had never had
Doug Adler on this show. If we also had shunned
him as many people did in the world of media,
he would not have gotten this apology from ESPN, he
would not have gotten rehired, and he would not have

(44:53):
gotten a big settlement check to help to pay for
ESPN's mistreatment of him over the past past couple of years.
So that is a very positive story. A lot of
people have been asking for updates in this story. You guys,
by the way, can weigh in. I'll open up the
phone lines and allow you to weigh in on Doug
Abler eight seven seven nine six three six nine. But unfortunately,

(45:16):
we still haven't won the war here. We want a
big battle there against the ridiculous political correct army out there.
But I can't I when I saw this story about
Major League Baseball, I couldn't believe that this is where
we are still as a country when it comes to
the world of sports. They are changing the name of

(45:37):
the disabled list in Major League Baseball to the injured list.
The d L will now become a thing in the past.
It will now be the i L. Because they are
afraid that they are defending offending disabled people. I swear
to God this is real life. I'm not I couldn't

(45:58):
even make up this, uh this idea Major League Baseball
is replacing the disabled list with the injured list. I
mean when I hear this, my head almost wants to explode.
First of all, the word disability. If you are on

(46:21):
disability at work, it means you can't work. It doesn't
mean that you dislike people who are disabled. It doesn't
mean that this is somehow offensive. It means that you
are unable to go to work, which is how the
disabled list came to be. Now it's been changed to

(46:43):
the injured list, and I just legitimately have to ask,
is there a single person in my listening audience that
was offended by the use of the term disabled list?
Is there even one person we're on in all fifty states,
people all over the world are listening. Is there anyone

(47:06):
in my entire audience offended by Major League Baseball's use
of the disabled list, or as it's often shortened, the
d L that they needed to change it to the
injured list. I'm gonna start with my crew eight seven
seven six three six nine. Danny g doesn't this seem
like a made up story that Major League Baseball is

(47:28):
having to do away with the term disabled list and
replace it with injured list. This is like a bad
Saturday Night Live skit. I swear when I saw this
come across the ticker yesterday, I had to look twice
and I still didn't believe it. And then when we
talked about it off the air this morning before the
show started, I still am scratching my head. I have
never connected the dots on those two things this whole time,

(47:51):
my entire life loving baseball, there was never one time
where I heard that phrase and connected it to that.
Even if you did, it's not a negative. Like sometimes
people get hurt and they're not able to play in
a sporting event, they're on the disabled list. Their body

(48:11):
is not abled for that purpose, just like if you
have ever been at work and you got disability, that
means that you're not able to work, or if you've
been in the military and you've got disability. I just
I am, like, just totally blown away by the fact

(48:33):
that this was ever an issue. Eddie Garcia, is this insane?
Like Danny, I also did a double take when I
saw this and had to check to make sure this
was not a joke. Uh yeah. I also never once
considered that this might be an offensive term, but I

(48:55):
guess such are the times. This is the problem with
people being so awoke in American society right now is
we're constantly running around doing things that don't actually have
any impact, and in so doing, we are changing things
that the vast majority of people who are reasonable and
have rational thought processes never had any issue with. And

(49:19):
I think the problem is we are enabling and encouraging
stupid people to complain about stupid things. Dub I mean,
this is insanity. Right. Baseball has so many more problems
to worry about than than this issue right here. How
about getting kids to watch the game because the game
is so boring that no one under the age of

(49:41):
watches the games. About figuring out where Machado and Harper
are going? This is crazy. I mean, they've been free
agents now for like a year and it's still not resolved.
I think Baseball, look, this could be I think a
really fun process if Baseball did what the NFL does,
or did what the NBA does, you know, when their

(50:03):
free agency starts, If we had like a really exciting
pursuit to see what's gonna happen with Manny Machado and
with Bryce Harper instead, Like this thing hasn't even been
remotely resolved and we're almost spring training. Uh, Roberto, disabled list?
Were you just like uh in the fetal position crying

(50:24):
over the baseball man? And for them to do this
it's been around since nineteen sixty six, is so stupid.
When the when a guy is hurt, he's disabled, he
can't play, well, that's why they call it the disabled list.
It's like nothing negative at all, is like, come on, really,
all right, so that's the negative and we're gonna open
up phone lines eight seven seven six three six nine
on the positive front, Danny g if we never put

(50:46):
Doug Adler on the radio on this show when everybody
else is shunning him and they're not allowing his story
to be told, is there any way ESPN basically apologizes,
pays him out, and brings him back. Uh. I don't
think so. I think you shed a lot of light
on this story. I know we give you a lot
of crap over a lot of different things, which we

(51:07):
should because we're not paid to kiss your butt and
you don't want those kind of people on your show,
which is credit to you. But the first time you
had him on the show, I think it kind of
caught even your staff off guard because he was so
emotional on the air, especially that first time you had
him on. Yeah, and I'll have to go back to
the archives and find that first interview so we could
repost that, Yeah, reposted, or maybe even replay it for

(51:30):
people who haven't heard, because this is I think if
we still have that that that would be a really
good interview I think too, to bring back maybe next
week for people who aren't familiar with that. With that story,
now that we've got some some conclusion to it, um,
I think it's it's it's a rarity, and I hope
that we're starting to move in this direction where the

(51:51):
perpetually outraged and the perpetually offended are not able to
expand the scope of their outrage and offense, two things
that clearly are not outrageous or offensive. Now, obviously we're
getting the opposite side of this story right now with
the disabled list name change, which is ridiculous. But I'm
starting to see good signs that sanity maybe prevailing in

(52:15):
the world of sports, and that craziness and uh and
and you know, the basically the perpetual outrage machine where
people are always always looking for reasons to be offended.
It's starting not to work in the world of sports.
That a lot of good people, all different race, gender,
ethnicities and religions out there starting to say, you know what,

(52:36):
this whole woke thing is totally out of control. I
really do think there's a strong pushback against it, um
and uh, and I do think it can be pretty significant. Eddie.
Do you think that this that that we would have gotten,
that Doug Adler would have gotten this uh, this redemption
if we had not put him on this show. You know, honestly,

(52:57):
I'm not sure, but I will say when I heard
the news, I kind of felt like it was a
win for us in some way. I felt really good
about it. And and you know, certainly a credit you
for giving him all the attention that he got and
bringing the story to light. Yeah, I just I think
it's important and that this is kind of my my
idea in general, you know, to the extent you climb

(53:18):
up on a soapbox or you you have the opportunity
to talk to a lot of people, and we certainly
do every morning with this show. I think as a
society in America today, we need to stop assuming the
worst about everyone. And I feel like, and I've said
this for a long time, but the idea that you
would fire somebody because of one Facebook post, or because

(53:42):
of one Twitter post, or because of one you know,
ten second viral snippet. We're all in some way at
the mercy of the larger American community in a way
we never have been before with social media. And my assumption,
as always, maybe this is a flaw in me, and
maybe this is just having been raised in a Baptist

(54:05):
church as a kid, where you believe to the very
essence of everything in the concept of forgiveness. My belief
is I don't assume the worst about anyone, right and
you can you can criticize me for that, say that's
being gullible, you can say that's being too too kind.
Everything else. I don't assume when I see a viral video,

(54:26):
or I see someone's tweet that everybody is suddenly outraged about,
or I see some Facebook page, I don't assume, oh
that person is evil, right, Oh that I don't automatically
go to this person is evil and this is evidence
of their evilness and I think in order to fire
Doug Adler in that situation, the leaps of logic you

(54:49):
had to follow to believe that he has been calling
tennis matches for twenty years and suddenly, in a random
Australian Open tennis match he decided to call Venus Williams
a gorilla. That's a massive leap, and frankly, it's also
more racist in my opinion, by the people who assume

(55:10):
the worst than it is of him to begin with,
because when I heard that, if I were watching, I
would have been thinking guerrilla effect. Or I wouldn't have
been thinking, oh, Venus Williams is black. That means she's
an ape, right Like, I'm not wired in a way
to believe in a pejorative about a race to begin with.

(55:32):
And so the people who are, in my opinion, are
actually the racist ones. And I think we're starting to
see some reasonable reasonableness start to govern. And I look,
I have ripped ESPN because I think they've led the
woke media brigade for a long time. I try to
call spades a spade, right, I try to be on

(55:52):
this show and be as honest as I possibly can
for three hours every day. I think that ESPN got
that right, and I think are recognizing that many of
the decisions they've made over the last four or five
years have been wrong. And I give them credit for
being willing to step up to the table here and
acknowledge are wrong and fix the situation with Doug Adler

(56:13):
as best they can, because look, it's hard to make
good decisions all day long when you're running a big company, right,
Let's be honest, You've got tons of things on your
desk all day long. And I think a lot of companies,
when they see this viral outrage start to bubble up,
they decide the easiest thing to do is just placate
the angry people. The problem with that is you encourage

(56:37):
them to continue that behavior. Right, if you're a parent,
you know exactly what I'm talking about. If you allow
your kid to misbehave and you reward that misbehavior and
you continue to do the same thing over and over again,
the results are not going to change. It's like, I
don't know if you guys saw that Jeff Bezos story.

(56:58):
It came out yesterday evening he was getting blackmailed by
the National Inquirer. There's probably been a ton of people
who've gotten blackmailed by the National Inquirer over the years.
Instead of succumbing to their blackmail, he flipped the script
on them and published all the emails from them trying
to blackmail it. Props to Jeff Bezos there. Is it embarrassing? Yes?

(57:19):
Is it probably humiliating on some level for him? Yes?
But is he also helping to disallow that to happen
for everybody in the years ahead. Yes. It's like this
is not rocket science, right. I mean, the reason why
the United States government general policy is we don't negotiate

(57:39):
with terrorists because if you negotiate with terrorists, you set
the precedent that terrorists can do things that require you
to take them seriously and sit down and negotiate with him.
And I think the perspective you have to have with
terrorists is, no, we don't negotiate with you. I got
a bunch of calls guys one of the way in
on a variety of subject Let's let's hit him. Uh,

(57:59):
tom me in Florida, what's up, Tommy? Hey man, I
actually listened to your the interview with Adler. I don't
a year and a half ago whenever you first did
it It actually had me in tears. And the question
that I had, uh, there's I have a comment for
you after the question, um is what did Venus Williams do?

(58:20):
Commented you should have come out that she never commented
I agree with you. She she she never, she wouldn't
answer any questions she should I agree with you. She
should have come out and said this is ridiculous. I
think this is an example of social media mob losing
their minds. I appreciate you guys trying to protect me,
but I don't need protection here. His his his intent
was not ill will and she could have ended this story.

(58:42):
It's a good point. If she had used her common
humanity there, she could have saved him from this from
this social media mob to begin with. If you remember
and and then I have my comment. But if you remember,
Tiger Wood did that for that that girl on the
Golf channel. He said that he didn't mean that. She
wasn't saying it like that, and she saved her job.

(59:03):
The comment that I have for you is you people
like you need to keep doing what you're doing because
this is all getting absolutely ridiculous. You should call out
of spite just to say we're not doing this because
you're exactly right where this country is getting out of
control with this politically correct garbage, and you do really

(59:27):
deserve a lot of credit. Nobody knew who that Doug
ad guy was until that your your piece, So thank
you very much for doing that. I appreciate the call,
uh Mike and modesto, what's up Mike very much. Gonna
almost give the exact same thoughts. I too was listening
that day and was horrified and saddened by that story.

(59:49):
And Clay, I thank you so much that you are
willing to take a stand on your show and say
what you need to say, and it's different from everyone else.
And that guy owes you a lot because you gave
him the time when no one else will. And I'm
so glad he's been vindicated paid back. And it's about

(01:00:14):
time ESPN gets the message go woke, go broke. Maybe
they've learned. Clay, thank you great show. As always appreciate
the call. Um. I do think that that it's an
important lesson. I mean I really do. And Uh, I
think that the thing that is a little bit scary

(01:00:36):
to me, and not a little bit, I think it's
it's it's it's very scary is there are a lot
of reasonable people who knew that Doug Adler story was
total bs and they work in the media with me,
And as soon as I put him on the radio,
my phone blew up with so many different people that
you would recognize saying thanks for telling that guy's story.

(01:00:58):
But they were also a raid of coming out and
defending him because they were afraid that the accusations against
him would transfer to them. It's like a scarlet letter.
If somebody it's viral, right, Like if a mob is
angry at somebody, there are so many people who are
afraid of standing up to that mob and saying, you

(01:01:19):
guys are losing your minds here because they're afraid that
anger will transfer to them and they'll end up being
the target. And I think maybe this is my law
background um, where you get used to defending people who
aren't charged with heinous crimes, and your job is to
provide them the best defense possible. It doesn't mean that

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you think they're without blame. It doesn't mean that you
don't think somebody should go to jail for committing a crime.
But under our constitution, we have an adversarial system, and
it's my job, and I've done this. If I'm representing
a murderer, to represent that murderer to the best of
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mean that I think that there shouldn't be consequences for

(01:02:04):
poor behavior. It just means that I take my duty
to defend someone in an adversarial system in a court
of law very seriously. Well. Now, what I do is
I look at cases out there, like Doug Adler. I
look at all the facts, and sometimes it terrifies me
that the guy can be completely in the right and
have done nothing wrong and all of the consequences are

(01:02:26):
coming down on the wrong side. So I'm willing to
stand out there and to give people a target. You
go check my mentions every single day. The number of
people who live to attack me is substantial, But I
kind of enjoy it. Um. I'm perfectly fine being in
the line of fire and having people angry because I'm
taking aside that they're not comfortable with UM. And I

(01:02:49):
think that's important. I think it's important in the in
the country today to have a wide variety of opinions
and not allow a vocal minority that is mob rule
driven on social media to dictate the direction of our
country in sports and otherwise. Nick, let's see Dave in Florida.
What's up, Dave? Hey, good morning man. I love your sholf,

(01:03:11):
appreciate that. I want to comment on the whole MLB.
I mean, this is ridiculous. I mean, you guys are
absolutely right. You need to find more ways to get
the youth into your game. You need to find a
way to make your game more exciting. Um. I love
playing baseball, but I hate watching it on TV. It's boring,
you know. Like you said, they need to find a
way to get the off season more exciting, you know.

(01:03:32):
And also, let me comment on this whole like you know,
politically correct or woke movement. It's it's it's stupid. It's
another way of using the race card. Um, it doesn't
matter if you're black, white, whoever it's using. It is wrong.
This country is getting a lot softer. Um. If you
don't like it, move on, you know. Thank you very much, man. Yeah,
thanks for the called Jack in Texas, last call here

(01:03:53):
before we go to break. Then we're gonna be joined
by Jeff Schwartz. Jack. What you got for me? Hey, man,
I'm fairly new listener, so I didn't hear about this,
But I don't want to thank you for having the
courage to to take the stand and everything you do,
because we've got to be careful of the next thing
Peter will sue and make NFL change the name of
the publist bad thing, good point. Physically unable to perform

(01:04:16):
list definitely does give a bad name to the puppies
out there. Um, all right, we come back then we're
going next week. We'll play that Doug Adler clip for you,
and we'll also put it out on social media. But
we'll play that entire interview for you now that we've
got a good conclusion to that story, because we do
have a lot of new listeners people who may not
be familiar with that story. It's one of the things
I'm proud of that we've done on the show. Uh

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which got format man? Well? We start with the NBA
trade deadline on Thursday and New Orleans Storre Anthony Davis,
as expected, was not traded, didn't go to the Lakers
or anywhere else. He'll play the rest of the season
with the Pelicans. Of players that did move included the
Raptors picking up Marcusol from the Grizzlies, the Bucks acquiring
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out former number one overall pick mark help fouls he
goes to the magic on the court. Lakers down the
Celtics in Boston on Gen Rondo, the former Celtic gainst
the buzzer beater for the Lakers and the win, and
Lebron James added a triple double twenty eight points, twelve rebounds,
twelve assists. Raptories get their fortieth win of the year,
beating the Hawks one nineteen to one oh one they
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gets is eighth straight triple double, one short of an
NBA record fifteen points, thirteen rebounds and fifteen assists. College
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Shorts with us. Now, Jeff, you've got two kids with
the flu? Is that what I understand? Yes, one of
them I think he's ready to go to school today.

(01:08:14):
Uh no, fever last twenty four hours. And the other
one I thought was ready to go and she is not.
So yeah, it is. Uh, it's been rough. I know
that this has been a rough flu season in general.
Did they both get it simultaneously? And have you and
your wife gotten sick yet? So my son got his
like Thursday night Friday, when I got back from Atlanta,

(01:08:35):
he had his flue and she got hers like Monday.
But it's going through the class. I mean vaccine, no
vaccine doesn't matter. I haven't gonne sick. My wife hasn't
gonne sick. My parents are here, they haven't gone sick.
I don't think. Um, and so I think I think
we avoided it. They adults avoided it. But the kids, man,
it's it's been rough. I know you watch and there's

(01:08:56):
a lot of people out there with sick kids or
with sick family right now. This is, I understand, the
busiest time in the flu season so far. Um, when
you look right now, you just mentioned you came back
from the Super Bowl. Um, who should be the favorite
next year? If you had to bet right now on
a team to win the Super Bowl? Who would you take?
New England? Why would you still? Yeah? Why would you not?

(01:09:19):
They have like twelve draft picks. Uh, the Isaiah win Back,
the drafted last year. You'll probably play left tackle, and
they let Trent Brown go. They have to find another
pass rusher. They're gonna probably let Trade Flowers go, even
even though they generate the pass rusher with their linebackers
a lot of time in those twists and stuff. But
how do you know they play again? They're in then
FC East again. They get the Chiefs at home. Probably

(01:09:41):
that's probably Opening night. I would imagine it would be
Chiefs and Patriots in New England. Um, And I just
I don't know how you you bet against them, especially
if they get to play at home again. They hope
to advantage at the playoffs. Um, they're gonna be right
back on the Super Bowl next year. Well, the Lakers
ever win a championship with Lebron James, uh, I hope

(01:10:02):
so as a Lakers fan, I mean, last night was
pretty amazing, right, everyone could count of them out there
down twenty I think in the first half, and then
came back and won that game. I mean they did.
They failed at the trade deadline, and I saw you
tweet about it, other people talking about I mean, I
just wish they would have done it quietly like everyone
else had done it. It was either if you didn't
get if you didn't get Anthony Davis, then you didn't

(01:10:23):
get him. But they were so public about it, back
and forth with Dell Dems and and leaking stuff to media.
Just get it done behind the scenes or don't report
it at all. Lakers fans are fine with what's happening
right now. We have Lebron. We know, you know freedancy
is coming up this year. If we strike out a fredency,
there's a big problem. But the whole trade debacle just
looks bad. All the young guys are pissed. Now. I

(01:10:46):
just wish, like now that I'm a Lakers fan, I mean,
I'm not now that Lebron is a Laker, I should say,
and I love Lebron, man, I could see why people
get tired of him. It's just it's soone's drama all
the time. Um, He's trying to play and be the
GM at the same time with his agency. Just it's
a lot happening. If you're a fan, do you uh
you were an athlete? We're talking to Jeff Schortz for
eight years in the NFL, and obviously the coverage between

(01:11:09):
an average NFL player and stuff like what Lebron and
Kevin Durant gets is different. But do you blame the
media for covering the question of whether or not Kevin
Durant is gonna go to New York? Isn't that what
fans would rather talk about in the NBA than the
fact that the Warriors are gonna win another championship. Yes,
I thought Durant came off as real childish. It's funny.

(01:11:29):
The guy who has fake burner counts is like questioning
the media on the way that they handle everything. There's
another case, in my opinion, you talk about this off
about social media influencing the way that um people react
to sort of stories, because I would say that most
people who are fans of the NBA do not like,
do not dislike Kevin Durant. But you know, but there's

(01:11:50):
a vocal minority on on social media who probably who
probably tweet him all the time and send of mean things,
and he hears, he hears stories about about whatnot and
reads blogs on social media, and then he had this
opinion that people don't like him, and therefore he defend
himself and go on this whole this whole speech yesterday
about the media. And what's funny is I saw media
members who benefit off this storyline, right who talked about

(01:12:13):
Kevin Durant going to Knicks defending Kevin Durant and what
he said to the media yesterday. I grow up, dude,
like you. You know how it works. You have to
talk to the media, and the way you responded the
other day gives the media more ammo in my opinion
to go after you even more because now now now
they know that you get a story out of you.
Now they know they can irritate you. And now they
know that whenever they ask you this question, you're gonna

(01:12:34):
have a response that's gonna go a viral um. And
I just think it was unfair to the reporter. He's
just his job. They had to come up with stories
every single day and they have to find something to
write about that that's their job. And if if it's
writing about Kevin Durant to the Knicks and grow up, dude,
you go go play basketball, don't worry about it. If
there's nothing to worry about, then why why you making

(01:12:55):
a big stick out of this? So I thought it
came up as a real childish um and really just
felt beneath one of the better players in the NBA.
Not to mention, his own free agency is created by him.
He could have signed long term deals instead of creating
constant player options for himself. And also, you already walked

(01:13:15):
away from Oklahoma City and went to a new place,
so the idea you might go somewhere else new would
not be a shot. Can you come back with us
for the final segment here? Of the hour, Right, we'll
bring back Jeff Schwortz. We'll finish out the hour. I
want to ask him what he thinks is gonna happen
with Nick Foles? Uh? And where he thinks Nick Foles
is gonna go. That's gonna be the first major NFL

(01:13:36):
story in the offseason. Also, ask him what he thinks
about Bob Stoops. We haven't talked a lot about this,
but Bob Stoops to the XFL. Will these new spring
football leagues be successful? Will people be interested in watching them?
All that? More will discuss I'm Clay Travis. This is
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(01:14:15):
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lock it in today. I feel like they are a
bad beat like that, They're going to go on the television.
They are going to torture you today. It was unbelievable.
Had to be in the first place. I'd be rolling
if the Rondo just hadn't hit that jumper. We got
Jeff Shorts with this, I think right now, Uh Shorts,
we talked about the Rondo shot. Laker fans can enjoy
their brief moment in the sunshine before the storm returns.

(01:14:57):
But Nick Foles, where should he go? What's gonna happen?
Where should he go? I think he should go somewhere
like Jacksonville. If you look at at the amount of
teams who really needs him, it's not a lot, right Jacksonville,
the Dolphins, maybe, Um, I'm trying to rack my head

(01:15:17):
around who would actually could use his st A lot
of a lot of teams have young quarterbacks that they're
working through, you know, some some growing pains. They're not
gonna want to bring Nick Foles to start. I mean,
there's a very small window of teams that really could
use his services, and so I mean Jacksonville would be
one of them. Uh, they could use him. I mean
maybe even the Giant that they don't want to draft
Dwayne Haskins or you know, they don't want to draft

(01:15:39):
a quarterback where their act could use Nick Foles. If
I were if I were the Eagles, I wouldn't bother
franchise tagging him. I would just let him walk. You've
gotten the most out of him you can. There's no guarantee, obviously,
that you can trade him for what you expect to
get what value you expect. I think his value is
down now compared to where it was last year. He
didn't know. He played ok in the regular season. He

(01:16:00):
played it, you know, he played well in that three
game stretch, and he played you know, he played okay
against the Bears, and then we saw what happened, um,
you know in the New Orleans. I think it was
so um. I think that the Eagles just won't get
what they wanted. I just I wouldn't bother doing it. Plus,
it seems like the Eagles obviously love the Folds. They
paid him that bonus this year that they didn't you know,
that he didn't have to get, but they paid it

(01:16:21):
to him for playing time. And if you franchise tag
him and can't work out a trade, you kind of
ruined his market because if you keep him longer than
uh than for agency and the draft, like you can
resend his tag in mid May like the Pamthers due
to Josh Norman. There's no market for him anymore because
Jacksonville's found a solution there they drafted the quarterback, or
the Giants had done the same thing, or Miami, and

(01:16:43):
then you've kind of strewed Nick Foles. And I just
don't expect the Eagles to do that. So maybe they
franchise tag him and try to work out the deal
before for agency with someone. If not, I just think
they should let him go. You've got the most out
of them. It's a great story. I don't think we
appreciate how remarkable his story is and what the Eagles
did last year. I mean, you don't. You don't have

(01:17:04):
that happened where backup quarterback comes in and plays better
than the presumptive m v P and Carson Wentz. It's
a remarkable story and he deserves a credit for that,
and so is the coaching staff. I just just let
him walk. Just let him walk. Do you think that
the XFL, which starts play next year and now has
somehow managed to snag Bob Stoops as a coach and

(01:17:24):
general manager, which is a huge coup. Uh or the
a FFL or the A A A or whatever it's called,
the A A f L. I think do you think
either of those leagues will end up being successful? Is
their demand for spring football? Well one starts tomorrow. I
believe the A A F and there's lines posted I
hope that you hope you will lock it in today,

(01:17:45):
take a A S game for this weekend? Umbout of nowhere.
The best part about the A A F this weekend
I thought there's a heated quarterback battle in Memphis between
Zach Mettenberger and Christian Hackenberger. I mean, who who could
stand that out? I mean I actually just out right
for tomorrow for the Memphis team. Uh so, I guess survive.
I mean the NFL needs and minor league. I think,

(01:18:08):
in my opinion, it just depends on what that is.
The XFL than me. We have to see what what
they're gonna be in this new version, how serious they
gonna take to football is going to be more more
gimmick than not. Um. The a F the league starting
now is backed by Bill Pollium. It's got some good people,
it's got, it's got respectable coaches, it does have NFL

(01:18:28):
players and guys trying to make him back in the NFL.
Remember the best thing that XFL brought to the NFL
with some of the technology, right the sky cam that
that the XFL had, the NFL took over. And so
I think that the best thing is gonna happen here
is you know, these leagues to survive are gonna have
to embrace gambling. I think they're gonna have to be
um a little bit more progressive in the way that

(01:18:49):
they view gambling and fantasy football probably and all that,
and there'll be some technology, some sort of fan experience.
It probably comes out of this more than the player
that are able to get to the National Football Good stuff.
As always, my man, we'll talk to you next week.
Have a good weekend. Good luck getting those kids healthy
again from the flu. All right, thank you. That's Jeff Schwartz.

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(01:19:52):
get you ready for the weekend, and at the top,
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I don't really want to go on. I don't really
want to go on because I tried to have the

(01:21:03):
safest bet I could imagine last night. I said, you
know what, I'm gonna do a money line par lay.
If you don't know what a money line par lay is,
it's where you just picked the winner. The spread doesn't
matter at all, I said. As a result of the
NBA tread trade deadline, the Grizzlies are gonna go on
the road against Oklahoma City and they're gonna get run.

(01:21:24):
They're gonna trade Marc Gasol or they're gonna trade Mike Conley. Uh.
They ended up trading Gassoul. Everybody else on the team
is gonna be uncertain. They're not gonna play well. Boom.
I was right. San Francisco went on the road against Gonzaga.
I said, you know what, the Zags are gonna win
with ease. I was right. Both those teams won by

(01:21:44):
twenty five or thirty points. And I said, the third
game I'm the most confident about is the Celtics whipping
the Lakers. And the first half of that game, the
Celtics are up eighteen points. Doesn't look like it's gonna
be remotely close. Even late, with a minute and a
half left, the Celtics were up six points, and I

(01:22:08):
felt good. Even under a minute to go, Lebron James
is poised to turn the ball over. He's about to
go out of bounds. He just blindly throws the ball
behind him, ends up making a three pointer out of
that after the ball goes directly to a Laker. Even then,
with like two seconds to go in this game, the
Celtics are up, and then this happened, and I just

(01:22:32):
don't I don't want to do my television show. I
don't know what happens if I don't show up, but
I don't want to go because I don't want to
have to deal with it. But here's what it sounded like.
Balls for the league don't come back to Boston rot
So the Lakers win, and all these Faker Laker fans

(01:22:55):
are out talking about how they just won the championship
and how Lebron James the greatest team and being of
all time, and I just frankly can't deal with it.
I I just I don't want to have to deal
with the Lakers. Your team is trashed, They're not going anywhere. Congratulations,
you just put your finger in a damn You're about
to get drowned. That's what I really feel about the Lakers.

(01:23:15):
Not to be better or anything else, but the Celtics choke.
The Lakers made two or forty one threes, it was
and a calamity of airs. And so as a result,
I lose the weekend out kick uh lose the week
sorry on lock it in? And I don't even know
what I can do about it. So that's a negative story.

(01:23:36):
Everybody out there with a soul knows that the Lakers
and Lebron James stink, and you shouldn't be rooting for
them positive story. I got two negative stories in a
positive story. I'm gonna put the positive story in the middle.
Doug Adler A lot of you remember him. He's in
l a based tennis reporter called games tennis matches for

(01:23:58):
a long time for ESPN. He was fired a couple
of years ago because and I believe we have the
audio of this. While calling a match in the Australian
Open featuring Venus Williams, he used the phrase guerrilla effect,
meaning guerrilla warfare guerrilla tennis, which is a strategic type

(01:24:22):
of tennis where you do things that your opponent doesn't
predict or expect, much like in guerrilla warfare, the style
of war you would fight there. Here is what that
audio sounded like. This is a first serve in Venus
is all over, Venus move in and put the guerrilla

(01:24:45):
effect on now social media in particular, a New York
Times reporter decided this was Doug Adler calling Venus Williams
a gorilla. The animal. Now he's been calling tennis matches
for twenty years. He's never said anything remotely improper. He's

(01:25:06):
used the phrase guerrilla effect a ton meaning guerrilla style warfare,
and it's a popular term in tennis. If you remember
back in the day, when Andre Agassy and uh Pete
Sampras played a tennis match in the streets of New
York City, they called it guerrilla tennis, right, I mean,
so this phrase has existed and been bandied about for

(01:25:27):
a long time. Well, what often happens in these cases
is something goes viral on social media and an executive
somewhere just as terrified that something bad is gonna get happened,
that that his brand is gonna get tarnished. So they
fired Doug Adler and he was publicly branded a racist.

(01:25:48):
People at ESPN reached out to him, who listened to
this show, and they said, Doug, you need to tell
your story. We feel like you got treated really unfairly,
and we bet Clay Travis will have you on. And
so they were listening to me talk about this story.
Doug reached out and he came on the show a
couple of years ago and told his side of the story.

(01:26:10):
And many of you listening right now heard his story
and you found it so compelling and so inspiring and
so unfortunate of an evidence of the world that we
live in today, where everybody on social media immediately assumes
the worst about you that you started to advocate for him,
and we've had him on a couple of times since then.

(01:26:33):
He ultimately we've had him on three times. He ultimately
had a heart attack because of the stress that was
brought on by everybody calling him a racist and losing
his job and the social media on slot that he
found himself in the middle of. But he survived the
heart attack. Uh ultimately decided to file a lawsuit to

(01:26:55):
try and get his good name back, and yesterday I
got news that Doug had received a big settlement from
ESPN on his lawsuit before it was going to trial
in May, and that ESPN had given him his job back.
This is as close to ESPN or any other major

(01:27:17):
corporation admitting that they were wrong and that they had
treated someone unfairly as you can possibly get. I don't
think that would have happened without this show. I am
very proud of the way we handled this this story
as a group on the show, and also very happy
of the result that we were able to obtain here,

(01:27:39):
which is a guy who did nothing wrong and became
a pariah on social media that was attacked by a mob.
Now I also think this is evidence of a bigger issue,
which is many people who recognize that Doug Adler had
done nothing wrong, we're not willing to go public with

(01:27:59):
the fact that he had done nothing wrong because they
were afraid that they would end up targeted by the
social media mob. And that's one of the downsides I
think of the era we live in now, is instead
of standing up and fighting for what you believe in,
many people would rather do nothing, stay silent, and hope

(01:28:21):
that the mob never comes after them, which further embolden's
mobs like this on social media to go out and
find victims who have done nothing wrong. So I'm proud
of this show for standing up for Doug Adler, and
I also want to give credit to the new leadership
at ESPN for righting or wrong. This guy did nothing wrong.

(01:28:41):
He was a victim of social media mob hysteria, and
ESPN gave into that mob hysteria. I credit them for
having the good sense to make the right decision going forward. Finally,
another ridiculous story as we start off our three here,
and we're gonna be joined by my buddy Chad with
Row momentarily here in the next segment, but Major League

(01:29:05):
Baseball has now changed that. I swear to God, this
is a real story. And every time I think that
we're starting to to move out of this absurd, politically
correct universe that we have crafted for ourselves in the
world is sports, a story like this happens which just
drags me back into being in disbelief that we could
ever be here. They have decided Major League Baseball has

(01:29:29):
that the term disabled list is offensive two disabled people,
and they are changing the name of the d L
the disabled list to the injured list. I I swear
to God, this is a real story. No longer in
Major League Baseball will players who are injured be referred

(01:29:51):
to as being on the disabled list. They will now
be referred to as being on the injured list. If
any of you out there listening right now think this
makes sense or have been offended by the use of
the term disabled list, I would suggest something very simple,
get a life. Seriously, There's a term called disability, which

(01:30:18):
means that you are unable to work. It's a pretty
common term. I hate the policing of words that are
blatantly inoffensive and the scrubbing of our society for all
of these nincome poops out there who live in perpetual outrage.
Just like you can't negotiate with terrorists, you can't negotiate

(01:30:42):
with the woke. You have to call them on their
stupidity and make fun of them for being obsessed with
things like this. Instead of bowing to any pressure from
some tiny minutia of a scintilla of a segment of
baseball fans that were actually bothered by youth of the
word disabled in the disabled list, Major League Baseball should

(01:31:04):
have told its critics to go to hell and get
a life. Unfortunately, they bent to probably four people who
have been obsessed about this for years, and so now
they are going to have an injured list instead of
a disabled list. It's not a big deal in terms
of nomenclature, in terms of naming. It's a big deal
in terms of what it represents, which is people who

(01:31:26):
should know better doing what people who shouldn't know better
are asking them to do. Don't be a pussy willow
is my mantra for life. Also, don't allow a pussy
willow to dictate to you what you should do. Just absurd, ridiculous,
further evidence of the world we live in. But I'm

(01:31:48):
gonna be so happy about the result of Doug Adler
that I'm gonna pretend that disabled List story didn't even happen,
because I think Doug Adler is a big win for rational,
reasonable people out there who have functional brains and aren't
pretending to be perpetually outraged all day long on social media.
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bringing my guy Chad with Row with Row and my curse.
Did you watch the game between the Celtics and the
Lakers last night? I had the Celtics on the money
line and I've lost another week and lock it in
because region Rondo hit that jump or off the you know,
scrambleball situation, Clai. If I knew there was a chance
of you losing money, I would have tuned into that game.

(01:35:39):
So you needn't give me a heads up when that's
the case. But I was actually at the Nashville Predators
Dallas Stars game here in Nashville, so I did not
give a chance to see that. I don't even want
to go on my television show tonight because or this afternoon,
because I know I'm gonna get crushed so much over
this loss that, and I didn't want to do the
radio show this morning either. It's not just that I

(01:36:01):
lost in said the Lakers one, and there are so
many fake Laker fans out there. Of all the sports
teams in America, is there any team that has more
fake fans than the Lakers? Can you just call them
the fakers? Can you find the two of them? I
feel like I'm not sure that there's any fan, any
sports team in America that has more fake fans than

(01:36:24):
the Lakers? Do like and like, can you think of one?
Can you think of one in the country that has more?
Maybe you can maybe point to like a college basketball
like I think there's a lot of fake Kentucky fans
out there, U n C fans or Duke fans. Maybe
same thing. I think maybe could be true in football
right now with Alabama. But I think historically the Lakers

(01:36:46):
have had more fake fans than anybody. Yeah, I think
any national brand with a pro sports team lends to
a lot of fake fans. Like there's a lot of
fake Cowboys fans. Yeah, that's a good thing. Even even
even in Nashville. I feel like there's a lot of
people who really have no attachment to the Cowboys. They
may have grown up watching them at some point and
then they just attached themselves to the Cowboys even though

(01:37:09):
they really know nothing about the team. Now, the Yankees,
maybe you could also follow in that category. Or there
are a lot of fake Yankee fans out there. Yeah,
and they only show up when things are going well,
right Like, they don't say anything. When things are going bad,
they hide. I don't blame people who are a ride
or die with their team, right Like, that's that's kind
of what you've become a sports fan for, to go

(01:37:29):
through the good times and the bad times. But it
just seems to me like the Laker fans suddenly show
up when Rondo hits a buzzer beater and they're like, see,
we're awesome. And then when they lose to the seventies
sixers on Saturday, they'll be disappeared. God forbid they lose
to the Hawks in the next game you want to
hear about anything. They only pop up in Jersey Pop
whenever good things go on go on and happen for them.

(01:37:51):
I find myself actually respecting people more when they tell
me that they're fans of a really bad team. Rhetorically
it definitely there, and they actually claim and they actually
know about their bad team in that present moment, I
find myself gaining respect for that person when they do that.
I hope more people out there like that ride er
dies you said, yeah, there's there's no doubt about that.

(01:38:12):
And also like, um, remember that Curb Your Enthusiasm episode
where the guy had the ugly wife and people were like, well,
you gotta trust him, right, like he's a he's clearly
like it's been like a really good looking guy had
the ugly wife. We see a lot of not very
good looking guys that have good looking wives. You and
I would be good examples of that. But like in general,
there's a lot more, you know, like when you see

(01:38:34):
a really good looking guy and he's with a really
ugly girl, you definitely think that maybe that guy really
does have a heart of gold. Maybe maybe he's not
the kind of guy who just judges people based on
like physical appearance and all the cosmetic things that the
rest of us do. But see, we can trust a
guy with an ugly wife, but yet we want college
football coaches with hot wife. They're good recruiters. But it

(01:38:54):
isn't it funny that when we're talking about our favorite
college football team and I fall onto this category. We
don't need a trustworthy guy, We need a recruiter, right,
Like if you don't ever see a guy with a
hot wive and be like, oh, this guy is really trustworthy.
He must be very upstanding, and we don't care about
that with our college football coaches. As long as they
have a hot life, we know they can recruit. It

(01:39:15):
was funny, Like we had James Franklin on my my
show in Nashville years ago, and uh, he admitted that
he's like, look if you can basically all you're doing
when you're a guy and you are on the like
the the dating scene, you're selling yourself, right, Like, ultimately,
that's all dating is. Whether you're a guy or a girl,

(01:39:36):
you are selling yourself to the opposite sex as someone
that you should want to commit to long term, Right,
That's all it is. It's just a sales process, and
so especially early in the dating process, you're trying to
put forward all your best assets and not really focus
on the lesser ones, right, And this goes for guys
and girls. Guys got a fancier car than he can afford. Girls, uh,

(01:40:00):
you know, like she's got a uh what like an
apartment in a neighborhood that she might not be able
to afford, just so she can look like she's the
kind of person who lives in this neighborhood. Right. There's
all very much of a cosmetic, like upfront aspect of this,
and I think it really does show through when it
comes to recruiting, because I think the better, the uglier
a guy in, the better looking his wife is, the

(01:40:21):
more he's outkicked his coverage, the better he's likely to
be when it comes to trying to persuade people to
go to school, because it's all sales, Like, can you
imagine if a story broke one day where a coach
divorced his wife because he had no upward mobility in
his career, because he couldn't get the job that he
wanted because no coach would hire him because his wife
wasn't hot enough, but they didn't believe he was a

(01:40:42):
good enough recruiter. Can you imagine if that was actually
the divorce silings from the wife. But he told me that,
you know, he couldn't get the job at USC or
with Penn State because I wasn't hot enough. I wasn't
hitting the gym hard enough. And that's why he divorced me.
He had to trade up at that point. Not that
would make for a blockbuster store. It's like my argument
that women can get away with diminishing men based on

(01:41:06):
physical characteristics they can't control, and men can't do that
to women at all. Let me give you an example.
If a woman is on like Tender, or she's on Bumble,
or she's got a profile on match dot com or
whatever site it is, and she says, I don't like
bald men and I don't like short men. Nobody even blinks.
They're just like man that sucks if you're bald and

(01:41:28):
you're short, Like, if you're George Costanza, you're just out
of the running for this. This woman in theory. Right,
if a dude was like, I don't like fat ugly
chicks in his profile, people would be like, this is
so unacceptable. Let's just focus on the fat part. But
you can control whether you're fat or not, right, Like,
you can't really control whether you're short or bald. Now,

(01:41:49):
you can spend a lot of money to try to
get hair products. But this, to me is perfect evidence
of how women can go out and judgment based entirely
on things they can't control. But if men judge women
based on things that they can control, oh, that's unacceptable. Yeah,
I mean it's a good point. But how much of
this is just assumed? You just see people and it

(01:42:09):
makes sense? Like don't we know now that as a
general rule, women really like tall dudes with hair, yeah,
but not not short guys. Like do we really need
to say that? Like I don't think a woman has
to like put that in writing, but a lot of
women do. Like there's you see a really short guy
that's bald and overweight, and you see him with a taller,

(01:42:32):
really attractive woman and it stands out to us because
that's unique and rare. Well, it's unique and rare for
a reason, because, oh women, all women for the most part,
And I don't want to generalize to say all most
women prefer men taller than them with hair. Yeah, I
think we could just go ahead and put that out
there right now. I don't think that's a controversial take

(01:42:53):
I'm bringing this morning. Yeah. Well, and this is also
true about the height thing. My wife is five too.
I asked her if she would have dated me if
I was five eight, and she said no, And I said,
but you're five too. It's not like you're, you know,
like five ten. I would understand. Going back to Seinfeld,
this is like Castanza, you know, when he won't date
the woman who wears a wig because she's bald and

(01:43:15):
l and has to foot it to him. Was like,
do you see a problem with your argument? And she
has to go with the whole your ball? Yes, yes, no,
I mean yeah, no. There's an incredible irony here. All right.
So as we head into the weekend, first of all,
I want to ask you about this Jeff Bezos story.
Did you see, like, um, if people who don't know
this came out last night. Jeff Bezos owns Amazon. I

(01:43:36):
wrote a big article. I actually think there's a good
chance that that that the NFL Sunday ticket could be
moving from Direct TV to Amazon. But Jeff Bezos, And
there's all these nude photos evidently of Jeff Bezos out
there that the National Enquirer got when he was having
an affair with his uh. I guess she was his mistress.

(01:43:57):
Now she's his girlfriend. He's getting divorced. Did you see
where basically he just went public, admitted to all this
stuff and accused the National Enquirer of trying to blackmail him.
Where does this rank on badass moves by famous dudes?
I think this is really high up. David Letterman basically
did the same thing when he was getting blackmailed. He

(01:44:18):
came on his television show and instead of doing a monologue,
he was like, so I used to sleep with this
girl who worked on the show, and now she's trying
to blackmail me, and it turned into a big criminal investigation.
This is a pretty badass move by Bezos, isn't it.
It hits the power move by by power guy. It's
the first thing that I thought was I mean, it's
it's so smart too, because now he controls the narrative. Yeah,

(01:44:41):
I mean, if you put it out there first, this
is a smart move by him and his people to say,
we can write about it, we can tell our side,
and we can flip this thing and make them the
bad guy. You know. The funny power move I keep
thinking about now is the report out there of what
the Pelicans did the Lakers and on James. I mean,

(01:45:01):
we want to talk about an organization playing chess while
Lebron and the Lakers are playing checkers. What a move
that was to leak the Anthony Davis stuff out there
just to cause turmoil with the Lakers. I kind of
look at this with Jeff Bezos and think the same thing.
What an amazing move by him knowing that it's out there,
knowing that someone has this property that is sensitive to him,

(01:45:23):
and he just said, screw it, I'm gonna go ahead
and get ahead of the story. I'm gonna write my
own story with this, and I'm gonna make them look bad.
And that's exactly what happened. Yeah, and then at the
bottom of the article, By the way, people always wonder
how do these text messages get out It appears at
the bottom of the article. Based on the article that
he is linking. Uh, and this is this is a
big story. It's gonna be talked about a lot. This

(01:45:44):
Jeff Bezos story that happened last night. He linked it
looks like his wife's uh sorry, his his girlfriend's brother
was the one who was like stealing photos off of
her phone that they were sending back and forth. Because
I feel like, I don't know how the cloud works,
but something like nine percent of people under the age

(01:46:05):
of thirty five are naked somewhere on the cloud right now,
right like there has been a naked photo, especially if
you live in America today, And like I said, you're
under the age of thirty five, you're nude somewhere on
the cloud. And I just feel like all those pictures
eventually come out if you end up famous enough. For instance,
I think virtually every president, male or female, for the

(01:46:27):
next forty years, there's gonna be nude photos of Yeah,
I mean you and I are photographed together in a
hot tub cloud right now, fortunately fortunately clothed. Yes, yes,
you can't get much worse than that. No, I mean,
I think there's a lot of sensitive material out there
But how weird is it that it was her brother
that had access to these dude photos? I mean, I

(01:46:47):
have two sisters. I can't imagine like going through their
phones to five materials of them and their their MR
or they are fair and somehow getting those photos and
seting them out to people. That's sort of odds. That's
a that's a weird dynamic between the mistress and her brother,
that he was the one that got those photos to
National enquire Yeah, there's no doubt. It's really really strange.

(01:47:10):
And then I also wonder, like how did he send
those photos to himself? Did he text them? Did he
secretly email them? Like everything about that is really really weird.
And then to send it to hate your siblings so
much that you send it to the National Enquirer and
try to blow up her relationship like that in and
of itself, I mean that to me seems like it
should be criminal behavior and that guy should go to jail.

(01:47:31):
All right, you got some stories for us, right I do.
I have a big one to lead off. Also when
we come back, that that'll get some thought. All right,
So let's see here, let's do this, Let's take a break.
When we come back, we'll close out Friday with with
row uh At with Rozone. He's got some stories for
us to lead us into the weekend. We'll go ahead
and hit that. I am Clay Travis. This is Outkicked

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and you'll be ready to roll into the weekend. Bring
up my buddy Chad with row At, with rosone on
with us Now, a couple of stories that are out there.
If you're just waking up on the West Coast. Lebron
and the Lakers win. It's like putting a finger in
the damn. That team is screwed. Although they did manage
to kill me unlock it in with that late jumper
by region Rondo to win the game. Uh. Doug Adler,

(01:48:37):
incredible news story. We're gonna talk about this a little
bit more next week. But the guy who was fired
by ESPN for using the phrase guerilla effect has now
received a major settlement and they've rehired him, which basically
acknowledges that they were wrong about that from the get go.
And I'll hit you with this one with row. Can
you believe that they have changed the name disabled list

(01:48:58):
on Major League Baseball to the injured list because they
were worried that disabled list was offensive to disabled people? Yeah?
This is offensive to me. Yeah. At some point, when
you change the names of things because you're trying to
protect those who are offended, it becomes offensive to the masses.

(01:49:19):
And doing that, the changing of these names are now
offensive to me. Like the percentage of baseball what percentage
of baseball fans do you think we're offended by the
use of the term disabled list? Like, I'm I'm not
even kidding about this. Let's say there are a hundred
million people who like baseball in this country. That may
be too too many people, but let's say there are

(01:49:40):
a hundred million people. Are there fifty thousand people in
America who are offended by the use of the term
disabled list? I mean, do you like? In other words,
I think ninety nine point nine five of Major League
Baseball fans would have zero issue with the use of
the term disabled list. Yeah, and even as so one
claims to be offended by it, they're not. I mean legitimately,

(01:50:04):
disabled people aren't offended by this. I mean is there like,
did they get one email? I mean we've seen this
in in media. You know that people overreact to one
complaint all the time. Yes, Like, is there one person
who had a well thought out argument against it? And
someone in Major League Baseball offices said, you know what,
they make a valid point. We don't want to offend anyone,

(01:50:25):
so we're going to change the name of this. It's
just to me, you're making a story where a story
didn't exist, and the story is negative. I don't know
why any entity would want to do that, to create
a negative story about themselves out of thin air when
they don't have to amen. And also, like inevitably somebody
is gonna be offended by injured list too, right, I
mean there's somebody out there who has no life that's

(01:50:46):
sitting around offended by this. All right, what stories have
you got for us as we roll into the weekend? So,
Liam Neeson, Yeah, I don't know, if I don't know
if you've discussed this story. But in summary, Liam Neeson
was doing an interview with the publication in England. Liam
Neeson is from Northern Ireland. He is promoting his new
movie Cold Pursuit. It's a movie. To give some context,

(01:51:09):
it's a movie about vengeance. Liam Neeson obviously is very
good playing this part, and he got very candid and
honest in this interview and told the story that happened
over forty years ago where one of his female friends
were raped and he went to the woman and asked
her to describe who raped her and she said that

(01:51:29):
it was a black man. Well, liam Neeson then goes
on to say that for the next four or five nights,
he walked the streets in black neighborhoods looking for a
black man to beat up, and he was brandishing a
club as he did this. Now, my first thought was, wow,
Liam Neeson is actually his character taken. So this is
a pretty crazy that the real life Liam Neeson was

(01:51:51):
like this. But it was clearly a very honest moment
and a horrifying moment when you hear it that he
was prepared to just kindle or beat up an innocent man.
Liam Neeson actually said in the interview I was horrified
by this, went on to say that he went to
a priest, went to confession and had to seek therapy
for it, where he was never going to do something
like this again. Well, now the backlash obviously all week

(01:52:14):
has been going on with Liam Neeson. But Clay, here
is the story that I want to ask you about.
This is the headline from Vanity Fair. Liam Neeson can't
be racist because of how he kisses, says Michelle Rodriguez,
the actor. She goes on to say, now, this is
an exact quote from Michelle Rodriguez. His tongue was so
far down by Ola Davis's throat, you can't call him

(01:52:36):
a racist ever. Racist, don't racist, don't make out with
the race that they hate. Now. Dave Chappelle famously opened
The Chapelle Show with the black white supremacist sketch Clayton Bigsby,
and he said, this is probably going to get us canceled.
This is the first pop culture story I'm bringing to you, Clay,

(01:52:56):
so this may be the last. So I'm coming off
the top rope to be again, you are an expert
on racism because you're called a racist every day, probably
hundreds or thousands of times. Is Michelle Rodriguez right that
you can tell by the way someone makes out with
someone of the other race that you can't call them
a racist at that point. It's an amazing argument of

(01:53:18):
all the things that could be said to try and
defend Liam Neeson. Here, I gotta be honest. Michelle Rodriguez
is the woman who they killed off on Lost right
because like she was so difficult to deal with. Yeah,
so this isn't Where did she give this answer? Like
why why were people asking her her opinion of Liam Neeson? Yeah,
this was so. I mean she's acted in movies with him,

(01:53:40):
but she's talking about the movie Widows that Liam Neeson
stars as Viola Davison. This was at some sort of galla.
This is on the red carpet of some gala. What
an amazing answer. And and I edited the answer. I mean,
she had a bunch of words we can't say. On radio.
She said about it as well, calling people out for
calling him a racist, saying it's absolutely not true. It
isn't in trueing argument because my argument would be in

(01:54:02):
modern society that if you are attracted to members of
the opposite sex that are of different races than you.
I do think that that would be a good overall
proxy of your average level of racism. Right. I don't
know it's a hundred percent, but I do think that

(01:54:23):
if you are, like I've always said, most guys I
don't think see race. I think they see hot or not,
right Like, I don't think most guys out there are Like.
Maybe I'm wrong on this, but I don't think most
guys are like, Oh, I'm black and I only like
black girls, or Oh I'm Hispanic and I only like
Hispanic girls, or oh I'm white and I only like
white girls. I think most guys like good looking girls.

(01:54:46):
So I do think there's some truth to it. Now,
the problem you get into is historically probably not true,
right like Thomas Jefferson, like Sally Hemmings, but I think
he was probably still racist and he might just a
really well. The funniest tweet I saw on this yester
I actually found the story to a tweet. It was
Dave Open, who covers Tennessee for The Athletic, actually tweeted

(01:55:09):
out he retweeted the story with that headline that I
just read, and he said something along the lines of
the Thomas Jefferson a state because I think historically, again,
I think Thomas Jefferson, who had a kid with his slave,
probably racist, and he might have kissed Sally Hemmings really well.
I don't know that it works very well historically, but

(01:55:32):
I think in general, uh, if you are a guy
and you are or a girl, a guy or a
girl and you are attracted to members of the totally
different race from you, then I think probably it's a
decent proxy for whether or not you're racist. Like if
you'll only date people in your own race, I think
you are probably more likely to be racist than not.

(01:55:55):
So I don't know that it's a hud. Certainly nothing is,
but I actually think there's some law to her absurd
defense of Liam Neeson there well, and and specifically with
Liam Neeson because he went on Good Morning America with
Robin Roberts after he gave the interview to the Independent
in in in London, and he said, you know, I'm
not a racist, and he kind of went back into

(01:56:16):
his history. He said he grew up in the in
the troubles in Northern Ireland where Protestants were bombing Catholic bars,
Catholics were bombing Protestant bars. He's like, this is kind
of how I was raised around violence, and he's like,
this was a lesson for me that violence just causes
more violence. Decision by Liam Neeson to give this story

(01:56:39):
out in any way and think that it wasn't gonna
be an insanely provocative and that's that's gonna be my
kind of follow up to you that this is an
incredibly honest story that he's telling about his own life
and he gets crushed over it, and when you just
read it without context, he should get crushed over it
talking about wanting to kill any black man because a

(01:57:01):
black man raped his friends back in the day. But
when he went on The Good mor America, I thought
he explained things well. And I think Robin Roberts asked,
were you prepared to kill a white man that did this?
And he said yes, he said if my and his
line was actually kind of funny, he said, if she
said that a Lithuanian did it, I would have gone
to Lithuanian bars. What's the most amazing about what's the

(01:57:26):
most amazing to this about me is this is basically
the character that Liam Neeson plays, like this guy who's
perpetually out for vengeance, trying to avenge a wrong that
has been done to someone that he cares about. And yeah,
if they if they make it taken four. I mean,
it's basically a documentary at this point about William's life,

(01:57:48):
is his character. By the way, what's been the response
to Michelle rodriguez Is comments is that a big I
haven't even seen that story. Is that a big story? Like?
Is she getting is she getting a lot of criticism
for that? I haven't seen a a lot of criticism
for her. I mean the criticism right now, there's a
lot of criticism about Lea Neeson, a lot of defensively
and decent a lot of people in Hollywood defending Liam
Neeson having worked with him. Um, you know, he even

(01:58:11):
told the story of he's he said he was he
was horrified by the racism when he shot Schindler's List,
and with Robin Roberts, he told stories of you know,
I'm in a cab going to shoot as Oscar Schindler
for Steven Spielberg, and some of the things in Poland
that the cab drivers were telling me about the movie

(01:58:31):
and how they didn't want it made was just startling.
To me. He said there would be Swashtika's painted overnight
in areas they would drive past when they were shooting
this movie. And he said, you know that, and he
was kind of a reference to I've seen real racism.
Me being honest with this story. I'm telling you is
not real racism, or I would not be confessing to

(01:58:51):
these things. It's it's kind of what's kind of his argument, Uh,
will you watch the a f L or the a
f L or whatever it's called this weekend, the football League.
I'm glad you reminded me. I'm gonna set it to record.
I'm more than anything. I want to watch in a
few minutes, and I want to see the quality of
the broadcast that they put forth on both Saturday night
and Sunday. Um. But my interest in it is is'

(01:59:15):
is fleeting. It's better hooked me quickly or I will
completely turn it off. You know what. It reminds me
of Clay the Big Three when the Big Three launched.
I'm like, I have to watch this as a curiosity
ice cube three on three basketball league. If it hooks me,
I'll come back. If not, it's easy to turn off. Yeah,
you know what, I agree, and I'm kind of intrigued.
There are eight teams that are playing this weekend. I

(01:59:35):
feel like, and I've been on this argument for a
long time, I feel like the best decision they could
have made in the a f l IS or whatever
it's called, is to play it in the summer, because
I'm not feeling a need to watch football as much
now a week after the Super Bowl as I would
be later in the year, but an amazing week. Download
the podcast at out kick. We'll be back with you
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