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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Live from the Geico Outkicks studios, where fifteen minutes could
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real challenge today. I have no idea if we're gonna
be able to pull it off. Last week we talked
live with Andrew Bogan in Australia, and I was kind
of impressed that we were able to actually connect with Australia.

(00:22):
Today we've do what we're doing something that we've never
done before on the show. We're going to attempt to
have two live interviews, one in Thailand with a reporter
who is outside of the cave there where they are
rescuing the soccer team that has been trapped for a
couple of weeks now inside of a cave. They rescued

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four of the kids yesterday. I believe it is five
in the afternoon in Thailand right now, and we are
going to attempt to talk to to her in Thailand.
I have no idea how this is gonna go, zero idea.
I um cautiously optimistic that we're gonna be able to
make contact there. Also, I am somewhat more optimistic on this.

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We are going to call Russia, and we're gonna talk
to Stu Holden, who has been calling games for the
past almost a month now overseas in Russia surrounding the
World Cup. He had the Croatia and Russia game, which
was phenomenal and was the highest rated round of eight
game in the World Cup maybe in the history of

(01:31):
the World Cup in America. And I say maybe because
the data points, uh don't even go back that far.
My guy, Mike Mulvehill, who is a ratings guru at Fox,
said that Russia Croatia was the highest rated round of
eight World Cup game in the history of ratings that

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he could find going all the way back to I
find it very hard to believe that there is any
World Cup game that rated higher than that prior to nine.
Maybe there was some massively popular game prior to nineteen
ninety that aired in the United States. I'm gonna be
honest with you, I don't even remember the World Cup
being on television in the United States prior to I

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believe it was, which was the World Cup that was
last played in the United States. Now we're gonna have
the World Cup is gonna take place in the United States,
in Mexico and in Canada. But prior to I doubt
that hardly anybody watched any soccer at all in the
United States. But as I've looked at these numbers that

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have come down in terms of viewership, everybody out there
was angry, including me, at the United States soccer team
for managing to choke and not qualify for the World
Cup with their loss at Trinidad and Tobago. And you know,
the negative associated with that in general was you don't

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really watch the World Cup as aggressively because most people
are gonna watch hoping the United States is gonna advance
out of group play, but by the time you get
to the round of eight, other than I believe in
two thousand two when we advanced to the round of
eight after beating Mexico two zero in two thousand two,
which was a game that was played in the middle

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of the night, I believe that was the World Cup
that was in Korea, South Korea, if I'm not mistaken,
and so that game literally took place in the middle
of the night. The United States is not typically in
the World Cup by the time we get to the
round of eight. So what I thought was fascinating wash.
Croatia's a couple of a couple of interesting facts. Croatia's

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win over Russia most watched World Cup match maybe in
the round of eight in the history of the United States.
That's kind of a big deal Croatia and Russia to
teams that, Let's be honest. It's also not as if
Mexico were playing or there was some game that was
going on where everybody in America is like, oh, I

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desperately am interested in some way in this game. All right,
So at some point I would like to think that
the United States could advance to the round of eight
and the rating for the United States game would blow
everybody else out of the water. But I did think
this was an intriguing stat. Round of eight viewership. I

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think this is gonna blow a lot of people away
in sorry, in the round of sixteen. By the way,
more people watch the World Cup than watched the n
C Double A tournament. I think that blow the opening
rounds of the n C Double A tournament. I think
that blows a lot of people's minds. Uh. And more

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people watched the round of sixteen in the World Cup
then watched the Sweet sixteen in the n C Double
A Tournament. I ain't. There are a lot of you
out there right now, they're like, really, wow, that's kind
of that's kind of amazing. When I heard that statistic,
I was like, wow, that that kind of blows my mind.
Because we know there are eight sweet sixteen games, we

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know that the n C Double A Tournament is wildly
popular in this country, and the fact that you would
have more people watching the World Cup even without the
United States playing at all is a pretty mind blowing statistic. Okay,
this one also kind of blew my mind. In the
Round of eight, the NBA Playoffs four point eight million viewers,

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the World Cup four point five million. And the reason
why the numbers were not higher and the NBA Round
of Playoffs did not get beaten by the World Cup
was because we're playing these games at ten am Eastern
and at two pm Eastern, in the middle of the

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day for many people. I mean, the first World Cup
game is starting at seven am on the West Coast.
A lot of you not even awake. Many of you
also at work. For somebody like me who works from home,
the World Cup has been fantastic for a lot of
you who have jobs where you have to be sitting

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at a desk and maybe don't have access to your television.
You've had to set up your DVRs and you haven't
had the opportunity to watch now. That, by the way,
is just English language viewership. That's just non Fox or
FS one. The numbers when you include the viewership in Spanish,

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dwarf the NBA in the round of eight. I think
there's a lot of people out there that are like me.
When they heard those numbers, they said, Wow, that is unbelievable.
And I bring all of this up because I do
think it represents a fairly seismic transition in the way

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Americans are consuming sports. And I understand some of you
out there are older and your anti soccer. I think,
to me, this World Cup has been the death of
anti soccer guy for a long time, and I'm sure
there will still be a few of those fringe people
who are out there. Anti soccer guy has been for

(07:28):
the past fifteen twenty years. Every time there's a World
Cup or every time there's a big soccer match, getting
out there and being like Americans aged soccer soccer sucks.
I don't really hear it about any other sport. You
may not like the NFL. You may not like college football.

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Very few people get on social media and just say
football sucks. You may not like the NBA. You may
not like college basketball. Very few people out there get
on social media or get in my email or call
into the show and they say, hey, basketball sucks. Baseball

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American pastime. There may be some of you out there.
They just don't really like baseball. All Star Game got set.
I find the Major League Baseball regular season to be
relatively uninteresting in the same way that I find the
NBA regular season to be relatively uninteresting. There are just
too many games. But I like watching baseball. I enjoy

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coaching baseball. It's a fun sport. Hockey, Yeah, you get
some of people out there that are like, hockey sucks.
But most of the time those people are like me.
They grew up in the South, they grew up in
a warm weather climate. They haven't really ever played hockey,
and so in some ways it's hard to judge. And

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by the way, if you watch the NHL playoffs, if
you ever go to a game, even if you're not
a hockey guy, it's really hard to argue. You know what,
hockey sucks. I tend to like everything, right. I'm a
sports fan. I enjoy watching every type of sport. I

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don't think there's any time out there other than maybe
the w n B A or like a low level
level performance of a sport. I'd be like, man, this
is not very much fun to me. I just I
don't really enjoy watching this. Wait, amazing stat you know
what the total revenue. I'm gonna get into this later
in the show because one of the w NBA players

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was complaining because w NBA players don't make enough money.
The NBA produces seven point four billion dollars that's billion
with a B in revenue every year. That's how so
many guys in the NBA makes so much money. Do
you know what the w NBA produces a year in revenue.
I saw this number and I was like, my god,

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this can't be true. Twenty five mill million dollars. There
are radio shows in this country that produce more revenue
than the entire w n B A. Rush Limbaugh and
Howard Stern's radio shows produce more revenue one dude sitting

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talking into a mic, then the entire w NBA produces.
This w NBA player was like, man, how come Lebron
James makes a hundred and fifty four million dollars a
year and a lot of us make fifty dollars a
year because nobody cares about your sport. It's called basic economics.
If you produce a lot of revenue, then you make

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a lot of money. If you don't produce a lot
of revenue, then you don't make very much money. That's
how that works. In case you're wondering, I saw that Staton.
I couldn't believe it. Million dollars, the whole w n
B a versus seven point four billion dollars. I saw that,

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and I said, my god, this is one of the
most amazing things we've ever seen. And then there's people
out there like this w NBA player arguing that they
deserve more money. It's actually extraordinary. NBA seven point four
billion in TV in comparison to the w NBA's five

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million starting salary for the w NBA fifty thou dollars
minimum salary NBA player five and eighty thousand dollars, it
actually should be a larger gap. Million dollars a year.
Unbelievable stat But what I saw when I looked at
all the revenue and data and everything else that surrounds

(11:48):
this year's World Cup was I didn't it represents the
death of soccer. Sucks guy. I think you can make
that argument if you want to, But in Freezingly it's
first of all becoming a diminishing audience, and secondly, the
numbers now reflect that you are just flat out wrong.

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I'm a data guy. You give me information, I look
at it, I analyze it. I uh, you rotated into
my brain, and then I make arguments based on actual facts.
I know that's rare in the country today, but the
way that I actually break down everything is by using
legitimate facts and then spinning them out to make my arguments.

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When I see that the round of sixteen and soccer
in the World Cup without the United States involved, just
in English beat the sweet sixteen in the n C
Double A tournament, And when I see the round of
eight just in English beat nearly the final eight rounds

(12:58):
in the NBA the eight team remaining round, There's no
more argument anymore that people don't care about soccer. Soccer
is here, and now the question is how much bigger
is it going to get? How much more massive? Will
soccer become every year from here on here going forth.
So when I opened up the phone lines, this is

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your opportunity, maybe the last opportunity you're ever gonna have
in your life to make this argument. Or has anti
soccer guy finally given up the ghost? Here in this
World Cup taking place in Russia, even without the United
States being involved, an hour or two will last to
hold in that. I'm also gonna ask you how can

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the United States get better? Because one of the things
I noticed when I watch a lot of these games is,
my god, we suck compared to many of the countries
in the world eight seven, seven, three six nine. I'll
also bring in the crew all that still to come.
My name is Clay Travis. Monday Edition out cake the coverage.
We're gonna attempt to go fingers Frost. We'll see whether

(14:00):
or not it's possible to Thailand and to Russia live
with guests today. Can we pull it off? You'll have
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the crew Danny g Justin Cooper, and Eddie Garcia, and
I want to hit you guys with this question that
we opened with, is anti soccer guy officially dead? Based

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on those numbers that I just shared with you. By
the way, I was driving back, I was down. I
did the show last week from Florida, and I was
driving back on Saturday listening to Croatia and Russia and
it was a phenomenal game. I had no idea what
was going on because I don't know very many of
the Croatian or Russian players, and they all their names

(15:06):
kind of sounds similar, and so I kept thinking that
stwo holding it should just be like for purposes of Obviously,
if I were watching it on television, I would have
had a better sense for what's going on. I mean,
I played soccer in high school, so I understand how
the game has played, but I couldn't even tell whether
who had the ball. Was it Croatia or was it Russia,
because everybody's name sounds pretty similar, uh, for the Croatian

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and the Russian teams also, and I was ready to
lose my mind. They the minute that Russia scored to
tie it up to to an extra time literally that
minute on I was listening on satellite radio driving back
from Florida, they flipped two standard Fox Sports radio programming.

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Did you guys hear about this? I was living in
my car. I was like, I want to strangle everybody
at Fox Sports Radio and I worked there. It was
like Hi, the Heidi game back in the day, except
I was on the radio. Russia scores to tie it
up to two. Okay, it is bedlam in the stadium.
You can hear everything going crazy, and they immediately switch

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it to a studio show on Fox Sports Radio is
four thirty Eastern. I don't know how many people del
uged serious XM. My guess is they had already just
kind of set the the schedule because the assumption was
the game wasn't gonna go into extra time, and then
they were just gonna go ahead and and turn it
back over to traditional Fox sports radio programming. I was

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ready to strangle people driving in my car. And I
work at Fox Sports Radio. I can't even imagine what
everybody else is gonna do. It only took a couple
of minutes. Now, I watched every other game. Every other
game I watched. I watched Brazil. Uh, man, how many
opportunities to Brazil on Friday have to win that game? Uh?
They lost to Belgium. Am I correcting that? France went

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out and uh and one uh? And never really was
in doubt. I watched off all of the games. I
watched every one of them, all four of them, the
two on Friday and the two on Saturday, except for
part of the second game. I listened to it on
the radio. Did you guys watch, so that's the first question.
Did you watch Danny g the four games or any

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of the four games in the World Cup? Yeah? I
watched the entire Croatia Russia game, and that I think
was the best game so far in the World Cup.
Did you care who went who won? No, I didn't
have a dog in the fight, although because of our
coworker Eddie Garcia, I definitely thought of Mrs Garcia the
the whole time. I was watching because I figured at

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Eddie's house it must have been lively with the Croatia
flag being flown and waved and Eddie. I thought Eddie
would probably be running around down down his street, uh
in just the flag possibly flag find out. But um so,
because of that, I guess I was kind of leaning
towards Croatia because that's my only connection to either of

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the two countries. Really, um so, I didn't care, but
I just wanted to see an exciting, you know, finish
and that we definitely got that. But it's interesting that
you say the um second goal there to tie was
interrupted because in southern California we didn't get to hear
the final call because we had an E A S

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alert pop on the TV screen right during the final call.
It was insane. It was for a flash flood up
in the mountains, and that was it was. It was
talk about bad timing from from k Rock and Fox
eleven in Los Angeles. It was really strange because all
of us here in Los Angeles were sitting in a

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hundred and fifteen degree heat and the E A S
comes on the TV for a flood. Well, like what, yeah,
you know what they need to do something about the
weather alerts, the weather alert people out there. I understand
that there is is like sometimes serious weather conditions everybody
needs to be aware of. I had, for one entire
soccer game a whole two hours, they had a rainstorm

(19:10):
alert in my Nashville area where I live, and it
was on the screen for two full hours. And it
was like a thunderstorm in two random small counties that
nobody was near, and it was on the screen for
two hours. Somebody needs to have like some sort of
reasonable understanding about the weather conditions. Right, if you are

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gonna have a thunderstorm, everybody's probably gonna be fine. And
also you know when a thunderstorm is coming. This is
my thing, Like if the weather alert is, oh, by
the way, like uh, there's a tornado coming, okay, you know,
like the tornado can show up and you cannot know
it's coming. Who is the idiot that's out driving in

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their car that sees massive dark clouds, that sees the
sun and completely covered that everywhere you look there is
no blue sky and that idiot isn't aware that a
thunderstorm might happen. Who is the person who puts on
the television and it's like, oh, we got a thunderstorm coming.
I mean, I understand if there is a tornado, because

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the tornado, like you got rough weather conditions, you don't
know that it's coming. Put the tornado alert on television.
Outside of that, aren't we kind of past the era
where people have to be notified of most weather conditions
on television. Everybody's got phones in their hands. I had

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to turn off the alerts on my phone because I
get up so early in the morning. Every time a
kid gets kidnapped somewhere in the world, my phone would
go and anybody else had this thing with the Amber
alert going off, and I would it would go off,
and it would wake me up in the middle of
the night and I would think that I would, you know,
like some crazy thing was going on, and it's like,
there's a kid missing in New Mexico, and I'm like,

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what I mean, it's three am. It's probably unlikely that
that kid's gonna show up in my neighborhood. And I
had to turn off the Amber alerts. I'm like, I'm
anti kids getting kidnapped, but I don't need to get
in a war, you know, I don't need to get
jolted out of my bed awake at three am because
somebody got kidnapped in New Mexico. Now, if I was
in New Mexico, maybe it's crazy. I don't even know

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how that thing stuff happens. I mean from being a
broadcasting we know that e A S alerts are important.
But for an emergency, if somebody's just like, yeah, there's
a chance that the mountains can flood because there's some
dark clouds up there and it's a really hot day
in southern California, couldn't that have Couldn't the timing have

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been worked out a little bit better there? That's the
other thing, like, Okay, have somebody who's aware of what's
going on on the television screen at that time, at
least the flood is dangerous. A two hour notification that
there are going to be rain showers. Again, if it's
cloudy and you look up at the sky. I'm not

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saying I'm a meteorological expert, all right. I'm not claiming
that I can break down bear metric pressure and the
levels of mercury or whatever the hell is going on
in the in the universe. When it is cloudy and
the clouds are ominous. I just drove all the way
back from Florida. Much of that drive there was rain.

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Do you know how I assessed whether the rain might
be coming, whether I had to turn my windshow wipers on.
There was nobody on my radio that was like, oh
my god, there's a thunderstorm. No, you just make a decision.
Drives me crazy. Uh, Eddie Garcia, how much of a
fan of Croatia are you right now? Well, it is
fun to have a rooting interest in a team. Obviously,

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the USA is out, which I was not happy about
it because I look, I'm not anti soccer guy, but
I'm also not a huge soccer fan either. I was
in Fresno, uh, and I was watching the game with
a friend and he's like, oh, you're a soccer fan. Now.
I'm like, yeah, I like the World Cup, but I'm
not gonna be picking an EPL favorite team and following along.
I'm not gonna go to MLS games. We've got two

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teams here in Los Angeles, so I want to be
fair about this. I'm enjoying the World Cup. I enjoyed
every four years, kind of like the Olympics. But I'm
I'm not you know, all in on soccer as a sport.
I do think it's a great event, but I am
enjoying it. Like I said, my my wife is of
Croatian heritage. I eat a lot of Croatian food. Is
a what is Croatian food? Uh, that's a that's hard

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to describe. But everybody who By the way, everybody, have
you been to Croatia? No? But I know. I know
you're going to London for the Titan game. I'm going
to London for the Charger game. Of course they're playing
each other, and we are going to Croatia as part
of that trip, so I'll be going for the first time.
What I'm doing the show from London? Did you know that?
Like they are trying to we're gonna who knows that

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that's gonna how that's gonna work out? Like we haven't
done an international show yet, but I'm supposed to be
doing the show for the entire week because I don't
want to take off, uh during football season. I want
to be able to do the show at least that's
the plan. Well see you yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Like,
I have no idea how this is gonna work. I'm
actually kind of excited about it only because uh, the

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show is on from I believe eleven to two a sorry,
eleven am to two pm there, and I I feel
like I'm gonna get convinced that I should just move
to London so I don't have to keep waking up
early in the morning, because that's gonna be pretty awesome.
Like I'll get to wake up, have a leisurely breakfast, uh,
hang out, and then I'll do the show from eleven

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to two, which I think is what cow Herd's slot
right now, and then on in terms of uh, in
terms of like it's you know, like middle part of
the day and then at two o'clock, like the day
is not even hardly over, Like what do you do
with it? Like this kind of setup because right now
we get up pretty dawn, we knock out the show,
and there's so early in the morning. Anyway, that's gonna

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be pretty entertaining. I have no idea whether it will work. No,
I mean that's like I have no idea whether we're
gonna be able to talk to call Thailand, and I
keep every time I say Thailand, I want to say
thigh Land. And I'm really nervous that I'm gonna say
the wrong thing when I talk to this woman from
from Thailand, that I'm just gonna be like, I'm gonna
commit an international incident by calling her country Thailand. Um but, um,

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when you watch the World Cup, do you agree with
me Eddie that anti soccer guy is a dead man walking? Now? Like?
That is an argument that no reasonable person can make.
I don't know that I'm ready to go there yet.
I think he is becoming He's on the endangered species list,
I'll put it that way. I don't know that that
person is completely gone yet. Um. But and like I said,

(25:39):
I want to be honest about this, Soccer as a
sport is not my cup of team necessarily. There are
certainly games that I do find entertaining. There are other
games I don't find entertaining. And I know, if you're
a soccer fan you could argue, well, you could say
that about every sport. But I I do really enjoy
the World Cup. I find that event to be a
great event. And I don't have to watch the USA

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two in joy. But like I said, it is fun
to have a rooting interest in a team. Yeah. To me,
that's what It kind of blew me away. Was I
understand the concept of, hey, people watch the Olympics because
they want to root for American athletes, right USA, USA, Like,
there's a very strong patriotic component to the Olympics every
four years, whether it's the winter or it's the summer Olympics.

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But when I saw that the round of sixteen in
the World Cup had beaten the n C Double A
Tournament Sweet sixteen. In other words, more people watched in
America the Sweet sixteen of soccer than the sweet sixteen
of the n C Double A tournament. We talked the
n C Double A tournament crazy amounts on this show,

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and I think that's that's reasonable, right because everybody knows
the n C Double A tournament as an institution. And
then when I saw that more people watched the round
of eight in the World Cup than watched the round
of eight in the n b A, both of those things,
I was kind of like, Wow, this is this is
pretty remarkable. Justin Cooper, are you with me that the

(27:05):
anti soccer guy is basically a dead man walking? I
definitely hearing a lot less than than I used to.
I mean, even you know, four years ago the previous
World Cup. Um, I think Mike, let me think about
this way. I think my kids are never going to
know that anti soccer guy ever existed, right, I mean,
I think that's one of the things that uh for then.

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And my kids are ten, seven and three. They they
watched a lot of times the World Cup, the two
older ones and the three year old to be running
around like they'll watch a lot of it with me
because their home from school. Uh and and you know,
Dad's got the television on and they'll come and sit around.
I think the idea that that that there was ever like, oh,
America is not gonna care about soccer people is going

(27:47):
to be crazy to them because I see something which
I never would have believed and certainly didn't exist when
I was a kid, which is I'll go pick them
up at school and there are lots of kids at
their school who will be wearing Internet national soccer jerseys,
which is wild to me because if I think back
to when I was a kid in the eighties and
the nineties, the only international international stars that we would

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have rooted for in any way would have been maybe tennis.
Maybe you go back to the Boris Becker, Stefan Edberg,
Ivan von Lindel, like all of those different great tennis
stars who were international. It's really the only people I
can even think of, Gore and even e Zevich, all
these fun names that you could say. Other than that,

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I had no clue whatsoever growing up about international soccer stars.
Now the kids at my kids school walk around in
international soccer star jerseys. It's a totally different world for them.
And I think the FIFA video game is a big
part of that because they know the players and they
learned them from playing the new FIFA. You know, if
you have kids the FIFA whatever it's called, uh, the

(28:57):
soccer game, I think a lot of them learned the
stars that way. But it does kind of blow your mind.
So you're with me, Cooper that like the the breakdown
there in general, Like I think anti soccer guy is
a dead man walking. Yeah, I'd agree with that. So
do we have universal agreement there? Let me bring in
Eddie Garcia and then I'm gonna hit back. The data

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point that I just shared about the w n B
a versus the NBA is one of the most jaw
dropping stats I've ever seen. If you haven't heard the
revenue numbers on w n b A. This is from
an article that was out. One of the w NBA
players came out and said, Hey, how come we don't
get paid anywhere near as much as NBA players And

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this number blew me away. But first let's go to
Eddie Garcia find out what's shaken the world sports. Well,
it's Jim Data on Sunday Nights Baseball or Sunday's Baseball
with the Gaiko scoreboard. Sunday night, it was the Angels
beating the Dodgers Sport of three show, Hey, oh Tommy
with a pinch at solo homer the seventh I was
a game when he hit for the Angels. Comma Backs
lows to the pod Raise four three and sixteen innings,
So the Dodgers still have one game in Arizona for

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the n L West lead Battle of Division leaders. Brewers
beat the Braves ten three, Milwaukee still a game and
app up on Chicago in the NL Central Cubs beat
the Red six five in ten endings, Chicago winning on
a bases loaded walk in the bottom of tent, Phillies
losing the Pirates four to one at Lanta, and in
Philadelphia still tied at the top spot in the NL East.
In the Al East, it's the Red Sox by two
games on New York Red Sox when they're six straight

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beating the Royals seven to four, Yankees over the Blue
Jays to one. Intent endings starting lineup for next week's
All Star Game of DC have been announced. The Red Sox,
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do you have a registered heart meter? Are you still alive?
I'll allow you to call in and make the argument
that anti soccer guy is still alive and well eight
seven seven, six three six nine we come back. Why
do w NBA players make less than NBA players? Really

(31:28):
it's a dumb question, but it was asked over the weekend.
I've got some data points that are gonna blow your mind.
This is out get the coverage on Fox Sports Radio.
Why for the guy go out kicks Studios Notorious b
I G brings us back. I was reading an article
they think they finally found who killed tupas out in
A guy confessed. I think right, they're trying to determine

(31:49):
whether or not it's actually accurate. Yeah, I was wondering
whether or not that was a real story. I mean
it's a story. I don't know whether I mean, I
don't know whether the guy's telling the truth or not. Um, yes,
So we'll see whether or not that's true. So this story, uh,
somebody look up. And I'm not an expert. I'm gonna
tell you right off the right off the jump here,
I am not an expert in the w n B A.

(32:11):
But w n B A player, what's her name? Like
A J. Wilson. J Wilson sent out a couple of tweets.
I'm gonna read him to you, um talking about why
A J. Wilson a J. Does anybody know how to
pronounce her name? Is it a J? Yeah? I made
it up, but that's what it seems like it would be. UM, Okay,

(32:32):
So I'm trying to find these tweets right now. And
she she was asking, uh, you know, like why do
we not make the kind of money? She criticized the
pay gap. Lebron gets a hundred and fifty four million
dollars okay, four year deal that he signs with the Lakers.
By the way, Lebron James a mural getting to face

(32:52):
in l A already actually kind of love that. Maybe
we'll talk about that a little bit later in the show.
But the w n B A star are A J.
Wilson or a G I A or something a apostrophe
J A one of you can be an expert on
how to pronounce that name. I'm not an expert in
the w n B A does anybody, by the way,

(33:12):
on the show there are four of us. Does anybody
know how to pronounce the name? Uh? Anybody anybody feels
strongly that they know how to pronounce his name. I
think Danny was right. I think it's okay. Uh looks
like a j to me, but but a j uh.
She has said that she tweeted a hundred and fifty

(33:35):
four million A bunch of periods must be nice. We
are over here looking for a m I guess million,
but lord, let me get back in my lane. The
message was accompanied by a Jeff gift of a woman
closing a door and walking away. Uh. And so that

(33:55):
got thirteen thousand likes and five thousand people. It's talk
about it. And then somebody said, maybe if you were
one one million of the basketball player lebron Is, you'd
get paid equally, and she responded, oh, it's about skill set,
because I heard a bench player gets paid more than
never mind, well, a bench player in the NBA is

(34:17):
still a lot better than you are. Then she followed
it up with, yeah, breaking news really quick. I'm sorry,
Eddie just alerted us. It's a cute way to spell Asia.
What yes, what? That can't be right. Any apostrophe j

(34:38):
A is pronounced Asia, Asia outside shot. I like my
pronunciation better. What this is the most unbelievable. Hold on
a second, A apostrophe j A is pronounced Asia. Why
was she not just named Asia and him like that?

(35:00):
There's a continent. There's a continent and it's spelled A
S I A. If you want to name your kid Asia,
why not just name them the same way as the continent?
A apostrophe J A is pretty This is this is
mind blowing to me. Asia is it? I can't even

(35:20):
conceive of how that's possible, Asia outside shot. I don't
even understand how Like, I don't even understand how that's
possible my mind. It's it's rare that, like, I'm stunned
beyond belief. Um uh. By the way, Skylar Diggins, who

(35:45):
at least know who Skylar Diggins is? Although did she
get married? Is she now Skylar Diggins Smith? Or has
she always been Skylar Digginson? She got married a couple
of years ago, and she lost her curves and she's
like kind of cut now. So I kind of fell
off her bandwagon, all right, So Asia evidently has continued.

(36:07):
We're out here working just as hard as he is.
It's one of those funky things where you can't really pinpoint.
You can't say work harder, you can't say dunk, you
can't really pinpoint it. We come into work every day
with a great mindset. We're gonna tackle this thing no
matter how much we get paid. We love what we do.
This is one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard
any athlete make. This is the data on you to

(36:32):
take this for data. As our boy David Fizdeal said,
this is and this was an unbeliovad like this. I'm
not sure whether I'm actually more stunned that a apostrophe
j A is pronounced Asia than I am by this stab.
But this stat's pretty unbelievable. Um, the w NBA players

(36:52):
get UH get around fifty thousand dollars each. That's like
the minimum salary in the UH in the UH starting
salary for women's basketball, and the w n b A,
the whole w n b A. According to this article
on Forbes, the entire w n b A makes twenty

(37:15):
five million dollars a year. Now put that into context,
the NBA makes seven point four billion dollars. I don't
even understand how a w NBA player can make an
argument that they deserve more money when there are radio

(37:37):
shows in this country that make more money and revenue
than the entire w n b A does. At twenty
five million dollars to how many w NBA teams are there?
Does anybody know anybody out our w n b A.
Knowledge is severely lacking on this show. Is there like

(37:58):
twelve ten? I don't even know. Twenty five million dollars
on revenue is mind blowing stuff. Justin Cooper, you were
saying that the that the Rock makes more money per
movie than the entire w n b A does in
a season. He has a new movie coming out, He's

(38:19):
got a twenty one million dollar paycheck plus like thirty
of box office revenue. So Skyscraper, Uh, it's a it's
a new movie that hasn't come out yet. Yeah, it's
called Skyscraper. He's got another one, oh, another movie on
top of that. So he makes liked notice right, I
don't know what that is. But Over the Rock by
himself makes more money for a movie than the entire

(38:42):
w n b A does. Here's another one that will
blow your mind. Judge Judy by herself makes fifty million
a year. This is one of the most amazing statue'll
ever hear anywhere. Judge Judy on her show makes twice
what the n w U n b A does by herself.

(39:04):
If you had to invest in one of these two properties,
Women's professional basketball, the w n b A or Judge
Judy's television show, Judge Judy's television show is twice as valuable.
Her thirty minute, daily, five days a week television show

(39:26):
is twice as valuable. That's just the money that she makes.
That's not even the total revenue of that show. Judge
Judy by herself makes twice what the entire w n
b A does in revenue. That is mind blowing. All Right,
our two, we're gonna talk with Stu Holden. We'll go
to Russia. Can we do it? We'll find out live

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I am fascinated by the story in Thailand coming out
from all of the all the soccer team that has
been trapped in the cave. If you haven't been following

(40:09):
that story. We're gonna try to talk in our three
to a woman in Thailand who is on the scene
at this cave. UH. Bit more of good news, a
fifth boy has been rescued from the Thailand cave. I
can't get enough information about this, uh and so she
UH the the woman who is there, We will hopefully

(40:31):
be able to talk to her. But there now is
a fifth boy from that soccer team that has been
rescued from that cave. All of those kids are still alive.
You haven't been paying attention to this story. It's a
remarkable story. These uh, these Thai soccer playing kids. We're
part of the team in a rural area, and I

(40:52):
guess one of the traditions this team has is they
go into the cave and they write their name on
the wall inside the cave as kind of a way
to celebrate being members of the new team. And so
they went into this cave to write their name on
the wall, and UH, a flash flood hits um a

(41:15):
rapid amount of water like it starts to rain while
they're inside the cave, and they all got trapped in
the cave. A mile or more back into the cave,
and UH it has they were there I think for
nine days before they were discovered. Remarkable heroism from these
cave divers and the amount of the amount of dedication

(41:39):
and bravery that these cave divers showed to be. Can
you imagine, I mean, I can't even imagine being one
of these cave divers who is going back into the
depths of this cave, some of the area that these
cave divers have to get to. Yeah, one of them
died a member of the of the UH, the cave

(42:02):
diving team. He was taught a former Navy seal. UH
died trying to help to set a away for these
kids to get out. And um, I mean it's just
a it's a remarkable story. But that the divers have
been from all different sorts of of of of of countries.
I mean, I know these British divers I believe were

(42:24):
the ones who first found them. And some of the
passages in this cave are so tiny that it is
almost impossible to get through. And they eventually found these
boys nine days in. They have now rescued five of
them former UH people from all over the world. I believe,

(42:45):
they said, I was watching yesterday during their during the rescues.
They said that ninety people are involved in a in
a detailed fashion trying to save the UH, trying to
save these boys. Forty of them are Thaie, fifty of
them are from all over the world, all these different

(43:05):
experts pulling together and UH and trying to save these kids.
So we'll continue to update you if you haven't be
paying attention to that story, UH and you want a
powerfully positive story in general, that I think is one
and certainly there is a strong sports connection with the
fact that they are um A a member of a

(43:25):
soccer team that went into the cave. So those details
continue to to be released. An hour three, I don't
know if it's gonna work, because I think it's gonna
be complicated to call Thailand, and certainly to call Thailand
UH to call someone who is standing basically by this cave.
We are scheduled to be joined by a by a
woman who is reporting live from that scene, so we

(43:48):
will see how exactly UH that goes and whether or
not we can talk with her UH. In momentarily and
like the next five minutes, we are going to go
to Stu Holden, who has been called in games in
the world Cup. Uh for Fox and for FS one.
He has been over in Russia for a month. He
is a obviously soccer expert. We will have him breakdown

(44:11):
the final four teams remaining in the World Cup. We've
got Croatia playing England on Wednesday, and then we have
France playing Belgium. It's an all European affair and that
is taking place tomorrow. Both those games, I believe, are
at eleven am Eastern time, if I'm not mistaken, on
Tuesday and Wednesday. So if you want to come up

(44:34):
with an excuse to be able to have your television
on at work, or be able to have your radio on,
or any of those things, I know because I said
this happened to me. Uh. Fox Sports Radio Uh, certainly
on satellite radio is carrying all of these games. So
I have listened to a lot of those. It's Channel
eighty three out there on the Fox Sports radio station,

(44:57):
and Uh. I was driving back listening to the Croatia
and Russia game when suddenly they flipped it over to
Maine Fox Sports Radio programming right after Russia had tied
it up at two games apiece. I've got an interesting
question I'm gonna ask to holding this too. But Eddie Garcia,
you're the expert because you're a wife has Croatian heritage.
Does Croatia have the best athletes in the world. I

(45:20):
know it has an amazing coastline, and everybody who visits
Croatia is like, oh my god, this country is extraordinary.
I think, if I'm not mistaken, they film some of
Game of Thrones, like some of the the the the
palace settings and everything else. I think they have an
international set where they're filming in Croatia. But the population
of Croatia, if I'm not mistaken, is just four point

(45:42):
one or four point two million. Yet it seems to
me that they are consistently producing really high level basketball players, right,
and I I'm not mistaken, then there's been It wasn't
drawsing Petrovitch from Croatia is and and isn't there a
huge list of great Croatian BASKETBA all players in terms
of guys who are coming in and being able to

(46:04):
be drafted. Was the new guy Donkey don Check? Was
he from Croatia too? I believe he was from Slovenia.
Is that basically Croatia? Well, I'm pretty sure they would
not Croatia, like the Croatian athlete production. Um, I'm gonna
look up NBA players, but I mean there have been

(46:26):
a lot of great Croatian NBA players right now there
are at least what there is Bender Bogdanovich, Mario has Zonja,
and Dario Sarik are all right now playing, I believe
in uh in the NBA from Croatia right Like, there's

(46:46):
a huge list right now active players from Croatia. There
are I mean, this is pretty impressive for a city,
for a country of four million players, there are seven
Croatians right now in the NBA. Okay, I mean that
that's pretty uh, that's pretty impressive. Um And historically Draws

(47:07):
and Petrovitch was obviously really good coach was was Croatian.
Um And And so there are a decent number of
guys that have been Gordon Gearshak was one that I
feel like a lot of people will will at least
be somewhat familiar with. Um. But in terms of a
population of four million, we're talking about like basically this

(47:31):
is Denver, right, I think the metro population of Denver
would be around four million. If I'm not mistaken. This
is as if we just took the city of Denver
and they are now in the final four of the
World Cup. In addition to all of the basketball players
that they are producing producing. They are in the final
four playing against England obviously Belgium and France on the

(47:53):
other side. But Croatia has a decent chance to actually
win the World Cup. To me, I mean, you're the
expert on the show, uh Eddie Garcia, is our Croatians
the greatest athletes in the world. Well, that's a pretty
bold statement. I certainly think that, Um, your point is
well taken. As far as you know the number of
per capita, you have to contemplate the population and for

(48:17):
them to be as I mean. Look, I mean the
fact that there would be seven different guys who are
from Croatia that are playing in the NBA right now
is pretty remarkable. I mean, there aren't that many NBA jobs.
That's almost half of an NBA team, One six of
the entire n B a is coming from this country

(48:39):
of four million people, and they're also in the final
four of the World Cup. From a per capita basis,
that's extraordinary. And people all the time say why the
US didn't even make the World Cup and we've got
three hundred and twenty five million people I think is
the latest population. Croatia's in the final four and they've
got four million people. That's pretty remarkable, all right. We'll

(49:02):
find out if Stu Holden finds that to be as
remarkable as I do. He is live in Russia. We're
gonna attempt to call him. He's got a special Russian
bat phone. Who knows Vladimir Putin may be listening along
the KGB everybody else paying attention. We're gonna go live
for the first time ever to Russia on the show
and hopefully talk with Stu Holden. He's calling games for
FS one and Fox Sports will be with us next.

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in international guests today. Stew Holden, he's at easy to
follow at STU. Stu Holden. Uh, he is uh Fox

(50:09):
Soccer TV analyst. He has been breaking it down. I
was listening to him yesterday, I believe, or two days ago.
All the day's runn together. I'm sure for him too.
He is alive with us now in St. Petersburg. Stu.
What's it been like in Russia so far? Quay, what's up? Man? Um?
It has been fast and has been furious and uh, honestly,

(50:30):
you nailed it. We have not. I've lost track of
the days. I think we've done now thirteen games in
six different cities. We've been doing overnight flights, We've been
doing back to back days, and I'm actually in St.
Petersburg now and this, this whole experience has been amazing
this country, as you can imagine, with Russia and the quarterfinals,
and we were in so Che the other night and
it sounds like you're watching that game against Croat show

(50:51):
where it was just total heartbreak. But I mean, this
country has World Cup fever like I've never seen belong.
I mean people people celebrating in the streets till three am,
four m. It doesn't even matter outside your hotel room,
writing out of cars. I mean, it has just been
a crazy month, to say the least. I think the
best thing you can say when a country hosts a

(51:12):
World Cup is there have been no negative stories that
really have come out right. Everything has basically gone flawlessly.
Has that been the feeling that you've gotten as well
that Russia in terms of the country as a whole,
you said, You've been all over Russia has basically put
this thing on as well as it could be put on. Yeah,
And I think you know what's help is Russia doing well.

(51:34):
And we said it coming into this that if if
the host nation does well, it really just helps the
whole tournament, in the whole field. And I would say
the one thing I've really noticed is that the Russian
people have really gone out of their way to make
sure that that people have an enjoyable experience here. I
mean I've barely seen a piece of trash on the ground.
I mean it is one of the cleanest countries I
have seen as far as like in the big cities

(51:56):
in Moscow and St. Petersburg, and you know, I'm talking
to you from St. Petersburg, which is one of the
most beautiful cities I've been to. I think that everybody
was just happy in terms of Russia, how they were doing,
and then in that it just lifts the whole atmosphere.
So it's been great, I mean, and and then also
part of me imagine if we've had Russia versus England
in the in the semi final, I mean, with all

(52:16):
the stuff that's going on politically between and tweet out
my joke about, you know, the poison bowl or something
like that for people who don't know they've had the
spy who was allegedly poisoned in in in the in
the in the United Kingdom and England, and then two
random people who just maybe evidently we're dumpster diving, have

(52:38):
somehow also gotten poisoned and there and critical condition, and
Russia saying they had nothing to do with it. It It
would have been wild to have the geopolitical tensions involved
in that game. So you said, you've been I think
in called games in six different places for people who
have never been to Russia, which I would imagine are
the vast majority of our listener base right now, How
massive of a country is Russia and how much different,

(53:00):
say is there between say So soci and St. Petersburg
and Moscow in terms of the culture of those individual cities. Yeah,
it's it's crazy, I mean, and and keep in mind too,
I mean, how big of it. You know, everybody knows
how big of a country Russia is. Most of these
games are being played in the in the western part
of Russia. And even that, I mean, we're doing, you know,
six six hour travel via airplane, connecting through two different cities,

(53:23):
and you know, Moscow's is kind of I would equate
to more of a New York E type of field.
It's a you know, it's a it's a big city.
It's got all great restaurants, big beautiful architecture. And then
when you start to get to ent to Kazan, which is,
you know, the eastern point, and then Nijni Novgorod and Rostov,
I mean, the it's almost like a flashback to the
nineteen thirties. You're you're seeing hotels and buildings and apartments

(53:47):
that honestly, I'm not even sure they have electricity, and
these cable cars and trains that you know are total
time warp and some of these cities that they weren't
even open to the public in Russia. They were closed
off cities because you know, whether that was to have
to do with some of the stuff they were developing,
and it's it's really crazy. And then you're driving along

(54:07):
this dirt road and you get to Hampton in By
Hampton by Hilton and you're like, oh, there's a there's
a hotel that actually has you know, electricity and beds
and good food, and it's it's been an experience for sure.
I mean, the main cuisine and Kazan playing his horse
and uh, you know, I tried horse last year just
because I was like, I gotta do it. It's part

(54:28):
of the culture here. And now I can't even look
at it on the menu. And I can't even look
at a horse the same way. I mean, I feel
like I'm getting a desk there from every horse I see.
We're talking to stew Holding. Follow him on Twitter at
stew underscore Holding. Sorry stew Holding all all together now
you called I was listening to you Croatia Russia. What

(54:48):
was it like contextualized for us being in that stadium
watching that game. It's the most watched game in the
United States since nineteen nine, maybe ever in Round of eight,
which is a remarkable thing about the growth of soccer
in the United States. What did that game feel like
from your perspective? Uh, it was one of the craziest

(55:11):
games I've called, just because I mean, even going back
to the group stage where we had we had the
Russia game against Egypts where they actually qualified for the
next round. And I'm not kidding you, on the way
back to our hotel, which was probably only you know,
three or four miles, we had to get out of
the car and walk because it was it was a
log jam. It was party in the streets. It was

(55:31):
just people going insane. I mean, the entire country just
riding this wave. And and this this Russian team that
came into this tournament um with on the back of
a seven game winless streak. Everybody they were the national joke,
you know, every everybody was like, We're gonna lose. This
team sucks, and then all of a sudden they start winning.
These guys are heroes. So then to beat Spain and
then to be at that game against Croatia and for

(55:53):
them to score that late goal to tie it up
and take it to penalties. I mean the energy in
that stadium was as good as of IVC experience in
any sporting event in my life. And you know, then
for them to lose. Actually after once we cut away
from the game and we're in the stadium, that the
the entire stadium stayed and gave them a a round
of applause and a standing ovation and they walked around

(56:15):
the field and you know, these guys went out like
heroes and and will be forever remembered in Russian sporting history.
And just to to to see that game unfold the
way that did with heartbreak, and I mean it was
peak drama, you know, from a sporting event. And it's
no surprise to me that that was the highest rated
game we've had all tournaments. Of the four teams that
are left right now, France is going to play Belgium. Uh,

(56:36):
England is going to be playing against Croatia. Who do
you make the favorite? Um? I mean, I think the
winner of France Belgium will will win the tournament. I mean,
everybody's writing this. It's coming home train right now for
England and it's this new version of England that, you know, everybody,
he used to have this incredible weight of wearing that

(56:57):
English shirt and it was all all this pressure next
back station, and now everybody's buying into the fact that
this is this young, exciting team with not as much pressure,
and now they're in a semifinal and they're gonna win it,
and the tournament's coming back to where the game all started.
But I think when you get to the final, Friends
and Belgium are the best two teams. So that's the
game that we're we'll be here for tomorrow in St. Petersburg,

(57:17):
and uh, you know, in terms of talent on that field,
it's it's some of the best players in the entire
world at a club level, that the combined rosters are
probably worth well over a billion, probably attaching you know,
billion and a half in terms of what they've been
paid for in the international market, and that that game
could go either way. Honestly, I think it's going to
be a track meet. I think it's going to be
one of the best games we've seen all tournament. And

(57:39):
you know, the winner of that I think goes on
and wins the tournament. So if you're if you're pushing
me for an answer. I'm gonna go with France. If
France and England met, which would be the favorites right now?
If you look at the you know, the gambling lines,
France right now is a small favorite over Belgium, and
then England is a small favorite over Croatia. What would
for people who may not be familiar with kind of

(58:01):
soccer in general, what would a France versus England World
Cup title? Given the history between France and England over
the past thousand years, what would that actually be like
for somebody who is not necessarily plugged into the soccer universe. Yeah,
I'm trying to contextualize that because England it's kind of

(58:22):
a you know, it's a traditional powerhouse and you know,
going back, they won the World Cup back in England
and sixty six and have kind of perennially under underachieved
since then. But still it's England and you think of
you know, their domestic league being the best league out there. Um,
you know, France are probably are like the Ultra is
super talented, probably like the newer version of the Boston

(58:43):
Celtics right now with you know, with Kyrie Irving and
some superstar players and you know, They're just fun to
watch because they're they're they're like a young, fun team
that is all kind of coming together at the right time.
And if they can get back to winning. They won
the World Cup in and a lot of the same
Harrison's to that team, and then you know, maybe you
could go with the Lakers or something. For England, I

(59:04):
know they haven't won as much recently, but you know,
it's it would just be that that would be the
I think the dream final for for Fox Sports at
this point. If you had France versus England, all the
different storylines, some of the you know, the French players
play in England and English players majority play at home,
and these two fun, easy to root for groups playing
against each other. That would be that would smash all

(59:26):
kinds of records, I think in terms of viewing and
and you know, we would just have endless drum. I
think Belgium Croatia would be fun too, because you you
have a first time final, a first time champion. In
terms of those two teams, but I think everybody wants
to you know, we we want the big stars and
and the big teams and that that and all that.
England would go and say I don't know. Have you
have you seen any of these videos of English fans celebrating.

(59:48):
I mean, it is just it's amazing. I mean, you know,
thousands and thousands of people just beer showering each other
and jumping up and down, and you know they are
fully on this bandwagon hoping their team wins. We're talking
to stew Holden. He is in Russia. He's been calling
these matches for Fox and for FS one all throughout
the World Cup. There obviously uh to uh two semifinals

(01:00:10):
playing taking place on Tuesday and Wednesday, And are you
calling one of those? You said you're in St. Petersburg. Yeah,
we're in St. Petersburg for for Belgium France right now.
All right, So what's amazing to me is you have
the amount of names you have to learn. So I mean,
I want to just go to the straight broadcasting element
of this. I was saying that I was listening on

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the radio, which was which was kind of fascinating. Sometimes,
you know, during the World Cup and the names, I'll
be like, I don't even know, especially when Croatia's playing Russia.
Like I watched the first half in my in my house,
and then I got into the car to drive back
from from Florida, and while we're in the while we're
in the car, like, I'm like, I can't. I don't

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know the guys on Russia well enough, we're the guys
on Croatia well enough outside of a few you know,
like Luka don could play things like that. The names
sound roughly similar. I'm like, I don't even know who
has the ball right now. How difficult is it because
it's not as if you know you, I mean, how
do you learn all of these names and and and
the challenges of pronouncing them and everything else. This has

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to be different level for like a broadcast perspective, it is,
it's it's I think it's a completely underrated element of
broadcasting because and honestly, I think it's the one part
of our job that we should not get wrong because
it is a name, and you can you can have
access to names, and then we're always in this debate
me and my the play by played John Strong, the

(01:01:35):
lead play by played for Fox about you know, how
how American do you go with the name? So you know,
you could go full French on the pronunciation for Benjamin
Pavard or you know, Bonjaman Mendy and then you just
sound like an idiot. So it's like, how much do
you americanize it to make it where you know you're
not trying to go with the full rolling of the
rs for Mexican names or Russian names, and that that

(01:01:57):
there's so many itches on Croatia that you know you're
getting caught between Pich and cromer Rich and Modrich and
it's it's um, it's it's interesting, to say the least,
and it honestly requires a lot of work to make
sure you know a what the guy, make sure you're
not confusing guys, and then be that that that name
just rolls off the tongue pretty comfortably to where you're

(01:02:18):
not having to look down at your sheet and confirming that.
Especially in the early stage, it's a lot harder with
you know, when you're dealing with Iran and South Korea
and Saudi Arabia and all these teams. It's it's a
very underrated element of broadcasting that I think, you know,
people take for granted. We're talking to Stewholden, He's alive
in St. Petersburg, Russia. He's going to have the France

(01:02:39):
Belgium game on tomorrow, which many of you will be
watching across the country. And so when I watched, so
let's talk World Cup in general, like broad strategy. It
seems to me that this has been a very attacking
and aggressive style World Cup. And I don't know whether
that partially has been impacted by it's teams. There have

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been more penalty kicks awarded, that they've tried to clean
up the game a little bit, whether it's having the replay.
Do you agree in general, having called as many games
and watched as many games as you have, that this
has been a particularly overall enjoyable and attacking style of
soccer where instead of trying to get into draws and
avoid uh, you know, making big mistakes, it seems like

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teams have been aggressive in their attack style overall. Would
you agree with that diagnosis of the World Cup in general? Yeah,
And it's it's pretty refreshing, to be honest, because I'm
sure a lot of your listeners out there right now,
are you know, some of the fans are probably coming
around and and perhaps enjoying this tournament and soccer and

(01:03:41):
you know, the old notion of like there's no scoring
in soccer about you know, they're the one zeros and
the nil mill draws that we consistently get killed for.
It's been nice to have a tournament where, for the
first time in the history, there's no Argentina, there's no Brazil,
and there's no Germany. In the semifinals, you have some
of these underdog teams that are they're pull upsets. The unpredictability, um,

(01:04:02):
it's been I think goals per game, at least through
the group stage it was higher than any other World
Cup in the past. We hadn't have at zero zero
tie until the game that I did, which was the
worst game of the tournament Denmark France, because both teams
were through the next round. And yeah, it's it's it's
it's almost just like you have so much attacking talent
and and in many ways it's actually a good trend
for soccer and that we don't have as many world

(01:04:24):
class defenders these days because all these kids grow up
and they want to be you know, these number tens
and number nine's that just run with the ball and
don't really have to defend and try and score goals.
And it's, uh, it's been great to watch. I mean,
every every game has had drama. Now and saying that
we're probably gonna get zero zero go to penalty kicks
tomorrow night between France and Belgium's. But you know, that's

(01:04:45):
that's just the way it goes. And actually at this
point of the tournament, teams start to get a little
bit less adventurous and they want to make sure they
don't lose, as opposed to, you know, trying to be
too pleasing on the I we're talking. Okay, a lot
of people out there, obviously the United States is not
in the World Cup. You have watched all these different
international teams play throughout a month in Russia. How closer?

(01:05:05):
How far is the United States from being able to compete,
not just get back into the World Cup, because I
think they probably will be able to do that, but
actually be able to advance and have a legitimate chance
to win in the round of sixteen. How far are
we from that in your mind? Yeah? Well, you know,
if we if we go back to before the tournament,
the US is new team, this young group of the

(01:05:26):
average as I think it was twenty two, They played
a friendly against France right before the World Cup started
against Frances starting eleven that they'll probably roll out tomorrow
and we tied them one one. Um, that's not always
a great indicator of exactly where you are because it's
a friendly and France, probably nobody was trying to get
hurt and wanted to take it easy. But this, this
new crop that we have coming through is pretty exciting.

(01:05:48):
We have some really good young players and I think
if they're developed to the right way, UM, you know this,
this this is a team that could certainly reach at
some point. I'm not trying to pick it up too
much right now, but you know, with talent wise, could
match up against some of these teams in in the tournament.
I think we're still a long way from winning a
World Cup. I think that's probably, you know, twelve to

(01:06:08):
sixteen years down the road. If if if we sort
out some stuff developmental wise, and I'm not going to
get into the weeds and all the stuff we need
to do right and wrong, but just that, you know,
we have we have a good generation coming through and
I really believe that if if we find the right coaches,
structure and they're making some good changes at the top
in US soccer, and I agree with you, I don't
think we should have trouble qualify for the World Cup.

(01:06:30):
And it's still a travesty to me that we did
not qualify for this one seeing some of the teams
that were in this tournament that I know we're better
than um. But you know, either way, I think we
need to be competing by which would be that World
Cup that we now have. Coming back to the US.
When the US didn't qualify, where were you? What did
you think? I was at a bar in um in

(01:06:53):
Santa Monica, and I was I was fighting back the teers. Man.
You know it was for me. I mean, this is
this is in terms of I represented the United States
and the World Cup and I know what it meant
to to do that. And then also now selfishly, this
is my first tournament World Cup as as the lead analyst,
and you know, I was looking forward to the the
US Games and and we all were at Fox. We

(01:07:15):
invested so much in that, and I know a lot
of the guys on the team and what that would
mean in terms of the fallout, and it has been
just a total bloodbath the last you know, year or
so since we since we didn't qualify. But you know,
things go on, and I think in we're gonna look
back on this in this team twenty years and say
it was a good thing for this, for this program.
But it was I was devastating. I mean I was

(01:07:36):
still completely speechless and in shock. And you know, it
took me a couple of days to get over the
fact that we weren't going to be in this tournament.
And when you're here, it's I haven't even thought about
it once. Uh, And you know you realize that now
actually people back home care just as much about this tournament.
I know you've seen some of the ratings. I saw
you tweeting about them, that the ratings for this tournament
have been fantastic considering time zones and no United States

(01:07:58):
and all that stuff. So people are it by the
World Cup. Either way. You went to Clemson to play soccer.
You you grew up in kind of in Texas. I think, uh,
you're only thirty two years old. If I had told
you when you were a freshman, let's say it Clemson,
hey stew Uh, you know, and then in fifteen years
from now, you were going to be calling World Cup

(01:08:21):
games in Russia for the United States as one of
the lead analysts, if not the lead analyst. At the
only age of thirty two. Would you have ever believed
that was possible? No, I would have hoped I was
still playing if it wasn't that I had um But
if if you had told me the day that I
was retiring from from playing, you know, with the most

(01:08:44):
three A C L injuries in a row, that in
three years you're gonna have a TV career, that you're
going to be the lead analyst for Fox on the
on the World Cup, I wouldn't have believed you at all.
And uh and and quite frankly, it's been pretty surreal
to be here, and it's been a totally different experience.
I get asked a lot of by a lot of people,
what's the experience like calling these games versus playing in them?
And nothing will ever stack up to playing that that rush,

(01:09:07):
that that feeling of competing and you know what that brings.
But still to be broadcasting these games, you know, I
I feel when I'm in that stadium. I get into it, man,
you know, and you have still the little butterflies before
the red light comes on, and then you realize that,
you know, you have to live up to these big
moments and and do that on TV and make sure
that the viewer feels and experiences these games in the

(01:09:28):
same way that you do. And that's kind of been
the fun part about it. You know, it's it's it's
been a blast. I'm enjoyed every second of this. When
you saw um uh you're talking about you're you're a
young guy and you've had your career. When you see
a guy like and you're gonna be calling his game
tomorrow Killian Mambope. And again I'm not an expert on
pronouncing names. That's one of the things that blows me

(01:09:50):
what you do. Uh, how good is he? For people
who have not watched him play? How good can hey
he be? And can you imagine being nineteen on the
stage each that he is going to be on against
Belgium tomorrow. I mean, he's he's a legitimate next World superstar. Um,
he's he's nineteen years old. He scored four goals in
this tournament so far. He got transferred last year to

(01:10:13):
Paris and jamn for um I think it was a
hundred and fifty or a hundred and seventy five million euros,
so um, you know, I can I can do the
math on the conversion. I think that's north of two
hundred million dollars um for nineteen years old. I mean,
at nineteen years old, I was I was going to
parties at Clemson and UH, not a care in the world.
And and to think that this guy is scoring goals

(01:10:34):
on the biggest stage. He's actually committed to donating all
of his winnings from this tournament to UH to charity. Um,
you know this guy is going to be the next name.
If this French team stays the way they do, you're
gonna be putting him in the conversation with Ronaldo and
Messy and Pele and Maradonna. I mean, he is, he
is fantastic, and he's he's got game changing speed. If

(01:10:55):
you watch him against Belgium, he's the guy's like road runner.
He just runs away from people and then he's still
calm and collect it and can score goals. And um,
he is certainly my player to watch over these next
two games. And if France are gonna win, he's gonna
have to have a big tournament. All right, last question
for you just mentioned it you went to Clemson. How
much money would I have to pay you to do

(01:11:15):
an advertisement for South Carolina where you said, my other
team is the game Cox. Um, I just couldn't do it. Man,
I couldn't do it. I know where you're going with this.
I feel like you're going Landon Donovan in Mexico on me. Yeah. Well,
I mean, I didn't want to put you on the
spot on Landon Donovan Mexico. But when when I when

(01:11:35):
we talked about this on the show, I said, look
for context wise because a lot of people, if they're
not hardcore soccer guy, they don't really understand, or even
kind of casual soccer guy, the rivalry between the United
States and Mexico. But they do understand. Look, if you're
an Ohio State guy, what it would mean to say
my other team is Michigan. What it would mean if

(01:11:55):
you are a you know, Oklahoma guy to say my
other team is Texas. Right. I feel like college football
uniquely kind of brings home the same kind of rivalries
that soccer does, which is one reason why I've grown
to love watching international soccer so much. I love the rivalries.
And when I saw Land and Donnavan say my other
team is Mexico, I was like, Man, I grew up
a Tennessee fan. There's no way I would ever say

(01:12:17):
my other team is Florida or my other team is Alabama.
You're a Clemson guy, Like, I can't imagine you're holding
up a scarf that says my other team in South Carolina. No,
I couldn't do that. And then you know, my wife
is a Buckeye, so I see the way that she
religiously roots against Michigan. And I played in that US
Mexico rival when we went down to Mexico. I mean
we had bags of pea thrown at us and you know,

(01:12:41):
coins thrown at our heads, and and that's what that
was part of why I just love that rivalry because
you you know, it's it's the one thing that you
get out of bed in the morning to that game
and you You're adrenaline is pumping, and there's a genuine
hatred towards the team on the field, not off the field.
I mean that we all represent Mexico, you know, respect
Mexican Americans and mex pipkins. And you know, for for

(01:13:01):
that to be part of the thing, I couldn't personally
because of having competed in that, you know, And and
Landon's his own man. He's played down in Mexico. He
has a different feeling towards that than I do. But
I could not. I could not root for them in
this tournament. I'll say that. Yeah, I don't imagine that
anybody could. And I think if you put it in
the context of college football, a lot of people totally
understand that. I'll be watching tomorrow. We'll be listening. You've

(01:13:23):
been killing it. Keep up the good work. We appreciate
the time live from Russia, and good luck tomorrow calling
the game. Claim my man, we'll see soon. We'll see
them for Nashville MLS. Yeah, I can't wait. That's gonna
be a lot of fun. And also I'm gonna go
to that that US Mexico game here in Nashville and
September eleven should be really cool. Go follow stew Hoolden.
I'm serious about this. Thank him for waking up uh

(01:13:45):
and being with us. I know it's afternoon over there, evening,
but still, I mean, he's got a ton of things
on his plate to make the time for us. Big deal.
Let's bring in Eddie Garcia dive in with him. Alright, clear,
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car insurance, it means you probably should have gone to
Geico dot com fifteen minutes ago. How awesome was stew
holding just there? Um. A lot of times people out
there will ask the question, Hey, Clay, you know I'm
a fan of the show. What can I do you
know to kind of demonstrate that, Well, you can download
the podcast, you can share the show. You say, Hey,
I listen to Clay Travis in the morning, I'll kick

(01:15:32):
the Coverage show really enjoy it. Um what you can
do for guests and I would appreciate if you guys
would do This is reach out to stew Holden. He's
over in Russia right now. They are eight hours ahead
of us, so it's, uh whatever, the eight hours ahead
of me so I think seven hours ahead of the
East coast right now. But he's over there getting ready

(01:15:52):
for tomorrow's game that he'll be calling between Belgium and France.
And he just spent twenty minutes hanging out with us
on the phone. Got a lot of stuff on his plate,
calling a game that's gonna be watched by I don't know,
fifteen million people. I mean a lot of people are
gonna be watching that Belgium France game tomorrow and he
takes twenty minutes of his day to hang out with us.

(01:16:13):
What can you do thank him? I mean, honestly, just
say hey, thanks. Go follow him on Twitter at stew
Holden s t U h O L d N. I
just tweeted out the link to his Twitter account on
from mine. I'm at Clay Travis. Just take a minute
out of your day to say hey, thanks and enjoying
the World Cup. You're killing it. Um. Just tell him

(01:16:34):
something or comment on something that he said he's a
Clemson fan, went to Clemson, said he wouldn't wear a
game cock. Stay in South Carolina is my other team.
Just share him, just drop him a line, let him
know that you were listening. Makes a big difference, It
really does, given all of the obligations and responsibilities that
many people have. I'll tell you what I hear over
and over again is when people come on here as guests.

(01:16:56):
We don't pay anybody. People come on here as guests,
they say, Man, your audience responds on my social media account,
unlike just about anybody else that I do in media.
And it makes a big difference when you're asking somebody
to take time out of their day. So please, uh
take the time if you would. If you're a fan
of the show, go thanks to Holden for getting up,

(01:17:17):
for hanging out with us, for coming on live from
Russia and making time in his day as he gets
ready to call Belgium France from St. Petersburg. Uh. Speaking
of news that's going on right now, there are now
two kids that have been rescued out of the Thai cave.
If you've been following that story, which I have obsessively,
the soccer team in Thailand that went into the cave

(01:17:38):
was caught in there during the flood h that took place.
They were going in there to write their names on
the wall as part of a team tradition inside that cave.
They were stuck in there now for nearly two weeks.
I believe two more kids have been rescued. That is
now half the team that is out and alive. Remarkable
story there of international cooperation and fifty different people from

(01:18:01):
outside of Thailand, forty from inside Thailand. We are trying
to reach out and talk to a reporter who is
at that cave uh and reporting there, and we have
run into an obstacle, which is I was nervous about this.
Danny g We have one extra digit somehow in her
phone number that we can't figure out how to use.
So she gave you the country's code before the numbers,

(01:18:24):
but then it should be eight digits after that. According
to the Internet, there's nine digits she gave you, so
so we have she gave me and either she she
gave me an extra number, or she is intentionally dodging
me by giving me the blow off and gave me
the wrong phone number, so we can't reach her because
she gave us too many phone numbers. That's what it
seems like although it's kind of uh, just puzzle solving

(01:18:47):
at this point. We've been taking out certain numbers and
trying all of them. I have no idea how this
is gonna go. I have sent her an email. She
obviously is reporting live UH, and I told her that
we would love to have her on from Thailand to
report from that cave. Whether or not it is going
to be able to happen or not, I'm not sure.

(01:19:07):
And by the way, UH just got a breaking news story.
Seven boys now freed from a flooded high cave as
heavy rains threatened to disrupt second day rescue efforts. That's
breaking news from the Wall Street Journal that just popped
up on my screen. There were twelve boys overall and
that team plus their coach. So it's a miracle. I mean, honestly,

(01:19:28):
over half of that team has now been saved. Six
five members of the team, as well as their coach,
now remain in that cave. UH. And we're gonna try
to go live to Thailand and get you an update
in the final hour of the show. Will that happen?
I have no idea. Thanks to to Hold and Go,
thank him for me our to Monday edition in the books.
Our three Up Next, I'm Clay Travis is out Kicked.

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from the cave and Thailand as as the show continues

(01:20:10):
throughout the day. I believe it is now around seven pm. Uh,
it's in the evening and Thailand right now. Um, they're
about twelve hours ish ahead of the United States, depending
on which time zone you were in. They have now
rescued seven of the boys on that soccer team. If

(01:20:31):
you have not been following this story, I think it
is a riveting, compelling, unbelievable live drama. These twelve boys
on this Thai soccer team with their twenty five year
old coach, walked into a cave with the idea that
they were going to write their names onto the wall,

(01:20:52):
as was a tradition with this soccer team. While they
were in that cave, a flash flood it and rain
so rapidly filled up the cave that they were unable
to get back out. The boys can't swim, uh, they
were stuck in the cave. They moved further and further

(01:21:13):
back into the cave. The rains continued to fall, and
after over a week UH, these British cave divers, who
are one of many heroic figures involved in this story,
fought their way all the way back into the cave.
I've been following and reading about this story as much

(01:21:34):
as I can. These cave divers said, if we were
not aware that we were searching for these boys, we
would have never ever been willing or able to push
ourselves the way we did to continue through these tiny
passageways to wriggle their way all the way back. They
eventually found these boys a couple of miles into the cave. Uh.

(01:21:58):
They had been there for a week. They were in
their soccer uniforms. Suddenly the the divers see them. And
since that time they have been trying to figure out
how do we get these boys out of this cave?
Um And so they have put together what is an
incredible team of of individuals. Ninety different people involved in

(01:22:23):
this rescue mission. Fifty of them are international, forty of
them are tie and I feel like In many ways
this connects to the world of sports, but also it
speaks to the larger global community in this era, I
think of tribalism when everybody wants to focus on their

(01:22:43):
own individual benefit, on their own individual race or gender,
or religion or sexual orientation, and divide us all up.
That this is what sports can represent in the best
of the world. We've got the World Cup going on
and I think that's incredible, and Stu Holden was phenomenal
inn hour two. Just now he's gonna be calling Belgium

(01:23:05):
in France with us. And I think oftentimes the World
Cup and the Olympics bring us all together at the
communal spirit of sports and show us that we're not
all so much different after all, and we share a
great deal of common humanity. But this story to me
from Thailand, where you have all of these people suddenly

(01:23:26):
pulling together to try to rescue these boys, this soccer
team that went into a cave ages I believe, ten
to fourteen years old. If you have kids, you can
think about how unbelievable of an experience this would be
to be a parent and have your kids missing like
this for a week. What it would feel like, what

(01:23:46):
that emotion would be like I think you can empathize
certainly and imagine what that experience would have been like.
You think that these kids are probably going to end
up dead. You have hope that they are going to
still be a lie, but you think you may have
seen your kids for the last time, and then you
find out that they are alive. Uh that thanks to

(01:24:08):
these British cave divers who have risked their lives. And
one of these individuals has died. Who is a member
of the Tide diving team. He died of oxygen. Uh
it ran out of oxygen while trying to save these kids.
A hero man I believe, who was around thirty eight
or thirty nine years old, a Thai Navy seal, which

(01:24:28):
kind of puts into perspective how difficult this rescue operation is.
That Navy seals are capable of dying and giving up
their wives for these young boys, that that could happen,
and that they have now brought out seven of these boys.
Seven of the twelve boys are now out of that
cave as the latest number in the latest report UH

(01:24:51):
four yesterday, three so far today. Over the course of
the day. Five of the boys remain along with their coach.
Uh and UH fingers crossed, prayers up that we can
get all of those guys out. But to me, what
this represents is what good can come when a sports
universe comes together here to try to save this soccer team.

(01:25:17):
UM and I think the global interest and the global
empathy and the global effort that we are getting. Again,
forty of these members of the rescue team are tie
and then fifty are from the rest of the world,
many Americans involved in trying to save these boys from
the cave. When we all pull in the same direction,
we're capable of truly miraculous outcomes. And that is what

(01:25:41):
we are seeing, I think from Thailand. Now, there's still
so many details to be understood about this case, about
this story. I'm sure at some point it will turn
into a movie of some sort. I can't even imagine
what it would be like to spend two weeks trapped
in a cave as these kids have managed to do.
Uh and Uh. It's just a remarkable story, just a

(01:26:04):
thoroughly remarkable story. We potentially are going to try and
speak with a woman from Thailand who is a reporter
that is at at that cave. We have a controversy
that has emerged. We don't have the right phone number.
What's our situation, Danny G We have an extra digit
and the phone number that doesn't make sense correct? Have

(01:26:25):
we had any ability to make contact with this woman
based on you guys just randomly? Are you just now
in What's app sending messages to random people? I'm sending
random messages to people in Thailand. Uh. So we don't
know if we're gonna be able to get this woman
on from Thailand today or not. Um, and we don't
have I don't believe her accurate number. So we are

(01:26:49):
trying endeavoring to to find out a way to make
that happen. So we'll see whether or not that is
able to happen. In the meantime. Stu Holden was phenomen
an old live from St. Petersburg in Russia. He's calling
the France Belgium game tomorrow and I asked you guys,
and you guys are are doing this, and I appreciate
it if you have somebody who comes on the show

(01:27:10):
and you enjoy them and you appreciate them coming on,
like Steu Holden, who's gonna call a big game tomorrow?
Who is making time for us in Russia. Thank him
for coming on. He's interacting with a lot of the
OutKick audience right now at steu holding on Twitter. Go
go thank him for coming on, spending time, uh, during
the course of this show. It's the number one thing
you can do if you listen to this show, if

(01:27:30):
you're listening to this show on podcast, number one thing
you can do if you enjoy our guests, thank him
for coming on. They don't get paid, They're giving their
time fifteen twenty minutes to come talk to you guys,
and Uh, I'll tell you this. The thing that the
only thing I ever ask you guys to do is
thank our guests because I have been there. I have

(01:27:51):
done radio all over the country. And you know what
always impresses me the most when I do radio is
when I check my Twitter feed afterward and people who
were listening thank me for coming on, react to something
that I said, show me that the time that I
spent talking to that audience was time well spent. And
so that makes a big difference in terms of the
number of people that have come on this show that

(01:28:13):
have said, hey, Clay, like I went on your show
and I've never gotten more feedback from a listening audience
than what I got from your show. Makes a tremendous
difference in terms of those people coming back. And in particular,
stew Holden has already d M me and said, hey,
I'll come on Friday, uh, in advance of the World
Cup Final. Because so many of you have reached out

(01:28:35):
to him. There's a guy who's got millions of people
that are gonna watch him call Belgium and France, and
you guys are interacting with him on such a good
level that he already sent me a d M and said, hey, uh,
really enjoyed the conversation, enjoying interacting with your your audience
there at out Kick I I'm happy to come on
in advance of the of the World Cup Final on

(01:28:55):
Friday too. So we're gonna hear from stew holding again
at the end of the week after these two semifinal
matches have been played on Tuesday and on Wednesday, and
we'll have him in advance of the Friday World the
Sunday World Cup finale. We'll talk to him again on Friday.
What do you have come on again? If if everybody
hasn't reached out and said hey, appreciate you coming on.
I don't know, but I do know it makes a

(01:29:16):
substantial difference overall. You guys see it. I mean, Danny
g Eddie, Garcia, Justin Cooper and me bring in the crew.
When people react to the content on the show, it
makes the show better and also it makes guests want
to come on, right. I mean it. It sounds simple,
but it's a tremendous thing that the listening audience can
do to make a difference. Yeah, and you know, not

(01:29:36):
to take shots at anybody else, but the last network
that you and I worked at together, sometimes we wondered
if we were on the air, yeah, because there wasn't
a lot of Yeah, it was more news driven. There
wasn't a lot of interaction. And the great thing about
Foxes there's a ton of interaction, especially on Twitter. So
it makes a huge difference. It makes a really substantial

(01:29:57):
difference in terms of the overall impact. Um. Now, uh,
we're talking obviously about a lot of different stories. We're
just talking about the situation in Thailand where now again
seven of the kids of the twelve soccer team members
have been saved. Over half of that group is now out.
Five players. I believe, and the coach remain in that cave.

(01:30:17):
Rain is continuing to fall. They're trying to pump out
the water. It's a dramatic, UH, situation, involving so many
different people from so many different backgrounds, countries, world's, ethnicities, religions,
everything all pulling together to try to get these kids
out of the cave. Simultaneously, we have the World Cup
going on. We had a remarkable weekend of games on
Friday and Saturday. Two great games on Friday too, great

(01:30:40):
games on Saturday, in particular Russia Croatia, which was called
by Steu Holden who we talked to an hour too. UH.
And that is the most watched World Cup Round of
eight game in potentially the history of soccer in America.
United States is not involved at all. I'd like to
think the US at some point in time can make
it to the round of eight. Obviously, I should say

(01:31:02):
men's soccer game, because the women's soccer game, the women's
team for the US is extraordinary and they have produced
and continue to produce massive audiences. Most watched men's World
Cup game in a round of eight history and UH
kind of contextualizing that for people out there for the
soccer sucks community, which I think continues to diminish on

(01:31:23):
a literally month a month, day to day basis. That
audience for the Sweet sixteen in the World Cup, more
people watched the sixteen round games, the round of sixteen
cutting to eight in the World Cup. I'm gonna call
it the Sweet sixteen of the World Cup, then watched
the Sweet sixteen of the n C Double A tournament.

(01:31:45):
I think that's blowing a lot of people's minds. Also,
the Round of eight games, the Elite eight games in
soccer that took place two on Friday, two on Saturday,
had more viewership than the Round of eight games in
the n b A. If you combine the English and
the Spanish language audience, almost the same number in English.

(01:32:08):
But if you combine the Spanish language audience, more people
watch the Round of eight World Cup soccer games than
watched the UH the the NBA in the Round of eight. Now,
that's without the United States being involved, that's without Mexico
being involved, that is without the games actually airing in

(01:32:28):
prime time. Instead, they were on FS one and on
Fox at ten am Eastern and I believe at three am, sorry,
three pm Eastern. That's pretty crazy. That's pretty remarkable. Again
Friday and Saturday games, so all that is UH is extraordinary.
Will continue to update you on the Thailand cave situation.

(01:32:51):
We will see if we can get an updated corrected number.
UH to be able to talk with this female reporter
at the at the caves in Thailand, get a report
from on the scene. UH, we will see. I don't
know what the outcome that's gonna be, but that's what
we're trying to make happen in our three I am
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(01:33:35):
This just in from my Twitter feed. An eighth person
has been rescued from the cave in Thailand. UH. That
is now four more rescues today. That would leave four
players and the coach still in the cave. That is
pretty remarkable, um, pretty remarkable to think about in general,

(01:33:59):
what has happened in Thailand Again, four players, eight of
them have now been rescued and are alive. Four remain
in the cave, as well as their coach, who I
believe is going to be the final player, the final
member to come out. Can you imagine if you have
ever coached a young team, and I have been in

(01:34:22):
part of the coaching staff for six and seven year
old boys, five and six year old boys, seven and
eight year old boys, can you imagine being twenty five
years old and being stuck in a flooded cave with
twelve boys ages ten to fourteen. Can you even imagine

(01:34:45):
what that would be like, what that experience would be like?
Four an hour. I have been on cave tours before.
Where uh, Mammoth Cave. I live in Nashville, Tennessee. If
you're not familiar with me Amoth Cave. I believe Mammoth
Cave is still the biggest cave in the United States,
unless there's been some other cave that you surpd that title.

(01:35:08):
Since I was in elementary school, we would take school
trips up to Mammoth Cave, and there's a huge kind
of you walk down the stairs and the cave is
has a massive opening and you walk in and some
of the cave rooms, I mean, you know, it's like
you could fit a stadium. It feels like in some
of the size of these caves their rooms. But at

(01:35:30):
one point on the standard tour they turn off the
lights in the cave and you cannot see anything. Can
you imagine being stuck in a cave with twelve ten
to fourteen year old boys for a week as you

(01:35:56):
slowly are running out of food. I can't even comprehend
what that would be like. And then, due to the
extreme bravery of these British divers cave diving I am
told I never want to experience. It is one of

(01:36:16):
the most dangerous things you can do in the world
scuba tank cave diving. As if it weren't dangerous enough
for you to be scuba diving in open water. Some
badasses out there are like, you know what, We're gonna
scuba dive in caves. These British guys are the world's

(01:36:39):
most renowned experts in cave diving. They find out that
these kids are missing drop everything. I believe that they're
doing in England, travel to Thailand, strap on their diving
suits and go into a pitch black cave to go

(01:37:00):
look for these kids that are lost inside this flooded cave.
You want to talk about bravery, Think about that for
a minute. The soccer kids on this team that you
don't know, don't have any connection to it all. But
you are such an unbelievable badass that you strip on

(01:37:25):
your cave diving suit, you put on your air tank,
your oxygen tank, and you start diving in a pitch
black cave to go look for a bunch of kids
that you don't know at all. And as part of
that search you have to go through tiny little entrances

(01:37:51):
that are so small that you have to remove your
oxygen tank in order to continue. This is so dangerous,
guys that a member of the Thai Navy Seals died
trying to help set up this rescue. There are ninety

(01:38:13):
people right now in Thailand risking their lives. Forty of
them are Thai, fifty of them are from all over
the world to try to bring these boys out, and
so far, right now they have saved eight of these lives.

(01:38:34):
Can you imagine on so many different levels what being
involved with a story like this would feel like. Say,
can you imagine being that coach and that pitch black
cave with twelve little boys that are looking up to
you that coach is still in the cave. Can you

(01:38:55):
imagine spending a week in a pitch black cave with
all of those little boys as your food is dwindling.
Can you imagine that feeling when that British diver suddenly
shows up in the tiny little area where you are
standing with the boys and Raves raises his hand. Can

(01:39:19):
you imagine the feeling as they realize that the oxygen
is starting to diminish in that cave and that they
have to get you out, even though none of those
twelve boys on that soccer team can swim. Can you
imagine being a part of that rescue team that is

(01:39:44):
trying to teach these little boys how to wear masks
and hold onto a rope in the pitch black so
that they can bring them out on a trip that's
gonna take six hours. Can you imagine being a parent
of one of those little boys that has been missing

(01:40:06):
now for nearly two weeks. You sent your little boy
to go play soccer for the day with his soccer team,
and the next thing you know, you are waiting minute
by minute, hour by hour, day by day for news
about where they are and what happened to them. Can

(01:40:30):
you even remotely imagine what that feels like? And to
have the entire world all pulling together in the same
direction to try to find and save these twelve boys
and their coach. To see the heroism, to see the bravery,
to see the courage represented by the entirety of the

(01:40:53):
world as everybody tries to make these boys saved. I
just think it's one of the most amazing stories that
I have heard in years, and I think it represents
everything that can be right in the world. These twelve

(01:41:14):
boys on this soccer team stuck in a cave, and
the world decides we're not going to let them die.
It's unbelievable. I can't get enough of this story. Prayers
are up, fingers across that they're going to be able
to get everybody out of that cave. We had a guest.

(01:41:36):
I'm not sure that we're gonna be able to talk
to her today because we think we've got the wrong number.
She's in Thailand, she's outside that cave. She's obviously working
to cover all of the rescues that are going on
right now. I promise you that we will talk to
her at some point this week. I'm not sure when
that will be. Yeah, a quick update on that Clay
on WhatsApp. It didn't work, but I called the phone

(01:41:58):
number internationally that she gave to you and it beats.
There's life. It beeps as if it's ringing, but then
it gives a busy signal. Okay, So we will find
out exactly what we need to do to be able
to to make contact with her. She's obviously working incredibly
hard there alongside the cave to cover what is one

(01:42:19):
of the most remarkable stories, frankly of the twenty first
century when you think about what happened and uh and
what is likely to end up happening again. Four boys
still inside the cave and their coach will continue to
update you on that. Let me go ahead and bring
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Much less serious news. We had Stu holding on from St. Petersburg, Russia.

(01:44:07):
He's gonna be calling Belgium France tomorrow. He just tweeted
me a question. Would you eat horse? He said, Kassav
I think the city that he went to. He's been
in six different cities calling games in the World Cup.
Their their delicacy is horse. Yeah, unfortunate, that's a live horse.
Would you eat horse if it were the delicacy there?

(01:44:30):
My answer is no, I'm not touching horse. Now, I've
eaten a lot of different foods over the years, a
lot of different animals. Uh, And maybe you could say,
you know what, it's kind of crazy. You're willing to
a cow, but you're not willing to eat a horse.
So it must just be that you are used to, uh,
the fact that you eat a steak, or you're used
to the fact that you eat a chicken or whatever else.

(01:44:51):
It is not eating horse. Would you eat horse, Danny
g No, No, anybody on the horse train, I'd try it.
I'll try anything. You would try horse, you you would
try anything. Would you eat a human for the right? Yeah?

(01:45:13):
For I I saw an awful story. This woman like
cooked her ex. Did you guys see this story. I
don't think we talked about it on the show. I
wasn't anticipating that it would come up. But now that
we're talking about eating horses. This serial killing woman. So
it's rare that women are serial killers relatively speaking, right,
most most serial killers are men. This woman would kill

(01:45:35):
like her boyfriends. She had a barbecue July four, not
this year, but a couple of years ago, and they
couldn't figure out what happened to the bodies, and they
now believe that she served human flesh at her barbecue.
So not to scare anybody, but if you went to

(01:45:56):
a barbecue for July four and you thought, you know what,
this heat doesn't taste right, it's not very good, maybe
you were eating a human because that's evidently what this
woman did. She disposed of the body by feeding it
to her friends at the barbecue. And by the way,
can you imagine finding out later that that was you?
Not good? Not good at all? Um? So yeah, dah so,

(01:46:20):
justin Cooper, he's all in. Sounds good flesh, barbecue, nothing better.
What about you, Eddie Garcia? You eating a horse now? Um.
Of the of the four teams that are remaining in
the World Cup, we've got Croatia playing England, we have
got Belgium playing France. I'm all in on England because
I would like to see the party that England would

(01:46:41):
have if they won the World Cup for the first
time since nineteen sixty six. They have not advanced to
the semifinals since nine. The party scene that they have
had there is phenomenal. So I'm rooting for England. You
Eddie Garcia, because your wife is Croatian. I'm assuming you're
kind of rooting for Croatia. That is absolutely correct, yes,
and you're gonna go visit Croatia when you're going over

(01:47:03):
for the Chargers and the Titans game. So the word
is that Croatia is like the greatest place in the world, right,
I mean, everybody who has ever visited Croatia's as a
beautiful country that it's remarkable. How long are you gonna
be in Croatia? I believe four days? Um, so for
I mean, that's kind of a I mean, that's gonna

(01:47:24):
be intriguing. But is is that also what you have
heard that Croatia is one of the most beautiful countries
in the world. What I've heard is that it was
kind of a hidden jewel that has now been discovered
and is vastly becoming inundated with tourists. So it is
kind of the landscapes kind of changed, and of course
the people there are obviously thrilled to have that income
coming in, but it is kind of getting truisty from

(01:47:47):
what I've told. What I've been told, Yeah, I mean,
the population of Croatia in general is only four million people,
so I'm looking up right now United States population uh
by city, and I mean just to kind of contextualize,
like the metro area population if you go in you know,
like and I'm always like big on uh metro population

(01:48:11):
because everybody's like, oh, city populations, that's a little bit confusing, like, um,
you know, like it's hard to know. I believe I'm
correct that the population in general of Denver is about
equal to the population of all of Croatia. So when
you think about how well Croatia is doing in the

(01:48:33):
World Cup, they are Yeah, like I'm looking at this
right now. Uh, Boston, Massachusetts has more people than all
of Croatia. Phoenix has more people than all of Croatia.
San Francisco does. Uh, this one is gonna blow a
lot of people away. I think Riverside San Bernardino in Ontario,
in California, that metropolitan area more people than Croatia. Detroit

(01:48:58):
has more people than Croatia. Detroit is almost the exact
same population as Croatia. So when you think about the
success that Croatia is having right now, that's pretty remarkable
because effectively that's Detroit that is out there being more successful.
I was wrong on Denver. Denver only has three million people.
So Denver has fewer people than Croatia. But basically Detroit

(01:49:19):
and the metro area population of Detroit has the same
number of people as all of Croatia. So I'm on England,
but I also wouldn't mind seeing Croatia win. Honestly, this
is an amazing stat the the World Cup. There are
right now, uh, ninety two players left. Ninety two players
left on all four of the World Cup teams France, Belgium,

(01:49:41):
Croatia and England. This is a pretty remarkable stat. Forty
of them played on one of the English Premier League's
twenty teams last year. I mean there are a lot
of e p L. You know, if you are an
EPL fan, you recognize a lot of these different players
because they represent their their world. Uh that they're tree
in the in the World Cup. But that's a pretty

(01:50:02):
remarkable stat. Nearly half of the remaining players in the
tournament played last year in the English Premier League. That's
pretty good. Forty of the forty of the ninety two.
Um and uh, that is uh, that's pretty remarkable. So
I'm rooting for England. What about you, guys, any particular team?
Eddie Garcia is rooting for Croatia. Any for YouTube, for

(01:50:25):
Danny g and for Justin. Yeah, just as an extension
of Eddie's family, because in my mind they're gonna invite
me over for the final championship game and feed me
eight am. By the way, Danny on Sunday, Yes, I
love cheeseburgers in the morning. Yeah, that's gonna be interesting
in and of itself. And by the way, many of
you reaching out to Stu Holden who was on with

(01:50:46):
us an hour two, i'd encourage you to go download
the podcast. Thanks for reaching out. Stuve is gonna be
on with us again Friday, uh, to talk about whatever
the World Cup final is going to be again tomorrow
he's calling France Belgium. You flip on your television, she'll
be able to watch that. And then on Wednesday we'll
have England against Croatia. What about you, uh, Justin Cooper,
who you're rooting for? I mean, I honestly don't really care.

(01:51:09):
I mean, I'm gonna watch it, but I don't have
any rooting interest. But you brought up an interesting point.
So I think I would like to see how hard
England will party if they win that. So I think
I'm gonna I'm gonna jump on that bandwagon. It would
be remarkable to see what exactly that would be like
if they were able to UH to to get that
UM to get that World Cup for the first time

(01:51:31):
since nine six. I am right now scanning through. We'll
give you an update on the Thailand Cave Rescue. Will
continue to try to figure out when we're gonna get UH.
This woman who is at the at the cave, she
just tweeted, which is probably why it's gonna be difficult
for her to come on, whether she's kind of involved
in a big story. A second helicopter just flew from

(01:51:51):
the cave complex towards the city center. UH journalists near
the caves reported some of the ambulances driving off. The
reports the fifth, sixth, and seventh boys and eight boys.
Eight of the twelve members of this soccer team now
reportedly out of the cave, four players remaining alongside of
their coach. I am Clay Travis The South Kick the

(01:52:12):
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(01:52:35):
our three almost in the books. Encourage you to go
download the podcast, uh and uh and listen along. Um.
We had a great interview an hour two with ste Holden,
who will be calling the France and Belgium game tomorrow.
And Uh. Then we've got England going up against Croatia.
We'll do a poll tomorrow. I'm curious who people are
rooting for. But that story in and of itself. Again,

(01:52:57):
the data points that I find remarkable the Sweet sixteen
of soccer. The teams that advanced beyond the thirty two
teams that were in the group stage outrated the n
C Double A Tournament Sweet sixteen, even though the United
States is not involved. Now, the Elite eight games, the
A and the four games that took place on Friday
and Saturday, more people watched uh those If you combine

(01:53:18):
the certainly the English and the Spanish language audience by far,
then watch the NBA uh in their final eight. So
I mean you can say, yes, the NBA, they have
multiple games, but these games are not in prime time,
so uh, I think it's pretty remarkable and speaks well
to the growth of soccer, and it's just a shame
the United States men were not there. A couple of

(01:53:40):
other interesting details out there. We found out that a
w NBA player whose name is a apostrophe j A
pronounces her name Asia. Is that what we found out.
She was upset because Lebron James is getting paid a
hundred and fifty four million dollars and she wanted to
know why w NBA players didn't may the same amount

(01:54:01):
because they also try really hard and work really hard
at basketball. I'm not making this up. This is real life.
And uh I did a little bit of research, and
I found out that the NBA produces seven point four
billion dollars that's billion with a B in revenue in
its most recent year two thousand seventeen. The w n

(01:54:24):
B a twenty five million dollars in revenue. Now that's revenue,
that's not profit. There are evidently somebody tweeted me twelve
in w NBA teams, and that means that the and
this is crazy, that means the average w NBA team
does less revenue than I do for my website. It's

(01:54:48):
gonna blow people's minds, is revenue not profit? Out Kick
is bigger and more profitable than in a w n
b A franchise. That's pretty unbelievable. Me sitting around in
my underwear typing on the internet is a better business
than women's basketball in this country. Twelve w NBA teams

(01:55:10):
produce twenty five million dollars in revenue combined across all twelve.
So Clay, what the w NBA needs then is for
you to champion the league. How much? How much could
you raise their revenue in one full season? I don't know,
but I will say this, how much of their revenue
is only coming to them because of the NBA. In

(01:55:34):
other words, if the NBA said, you know what, we
don't want to be affiliated with the w n b
A anymore. The only reason the w n b A
is on television is because of the NBA. There, the
w n b A is like a pen prick of
the I mean, I'm not even kidding about that. I mean,
what is twenty five million as a percentage of seven

(01:55:55):
point four billion? I mean the w n b A
only exists because of the NBA, because the NBA decided,
you know what, will support women's pro basketball. Nobody else
cares about it at all, And the only reason it's
on television is as part of the NBA television package.
I think they sell it. That's unbelievable to me. Twenty

(01:56:16):
five million dollars anyway, that that player a apostrophe A apostrophe.
J A was upset that Jron James. Yeah, a apostrophe
j A, as all of us would say, Oh yeah,
that's Asia not spelled like the continent a s I
A spelled a apostrophe. A apostrophe. J A. Wants to
know why Lebron James is making a hundred and fifty

(01:56:38):
four million dollars and she's not. And the answer is, well,
because nobody cares about what you do. Go figure, you
are gonna make less than your CEO, the person who
owns the company makes more than the person who works
for the company. How could you go to college and
not have basic economic understanding like this, equal pay for

(01:57:00):
equal work? Yeah, why do I don't? Why don't I
make the same amount as Lebron James? Oh well, people
care less about what I do? Oh okay, are you
I mean, can you imagine being that tone deaf that
you're out there wondering why you don't make the money
that an NBA player makes and nobody cares about what
you do. Can I play Devil's advocate here for a second?

(01:57:22):
I don't believe it's possible to play Defen's advocate, but
certainly you are able to uh to weigh in. It
is a little bit. And for the record, I think
that the way that she approached is ridiculous to compare
herself to like Lebron James contract. That's completely tone deaf
and nobody's gonna take her seriously. But I think one
of the things that she's referring to is I believe

(01:57:42):
as as far as the percentage of revenue that the
players get in the w n b A it's something
like whereas in the NBA the players get up to
fifty of the NBA's total, but the NBA makes money.
Looking at total revenue is stupid. Again, this is lacking
basic economic understanding. The w NBA teams lose money, You're

(01:58:06):
not gonna get anywhere near the same share of revenue
when your franchise loses money as you are if your
franchise makes money. So I mean twenty The problem that
you have is that the pie is really small, a
twenty five million dollar pie when you have twelve teams.
I don't know how many players are on each team,

(01:58:28):
but you let's say you have twelve players on each team,
that's around a hundred and fifty total players, and you
only make twenty five million dollars total. You gotta take
the twenty five million dollars. You gotta pay rent for
your arenas, you gotta pay everybody who works for the
different franchises, coaches. Question is why does the league exist still?

(01:58:52):
Because because the yes, that's a fair question, and the
answer is because the NBA decided that they wanted to exist.
Doesn't really create that money marketing like revenue for the NBA,
I know, I think zero. And if you think about
the amount of money that they spend to advertise it
for nobody to watch, Like how many times during the
NBA playoffs did you see those advertisements for the w
n B A. Why even be involved in women's basketball

(01:59:17):
business if you're the NBA makes no sense. I'm Clay Travis.
I should be making the same amount of money as
Lebron James two. So should you? Uh? If you're a
w n B A logic there. I appreciate all of you,
thanks for hanging with us here on Fox Sports Radio

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