September 14, 2020 • 37 mins
Clay Travis dives into college football and welcomes in FOX's Joel Klatt, who called the exciting Arkansas upset over K-State on Saturday! Plus, Clay says that Bill Belichick may have gotten one of the biggest steals of all-time with Cam Newton.
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Sports Radio. So we had a heck of a weekend.
I would call it in college football, a really great
weekend if you are a fan of the Sun Belt,
if you're a fan of Arkansas State, if you're a
fan of Louisiana Lafayette, maybe the greatest weekend of your
college football life. And if you're a fan of an
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A C C team or a Big twelve team, even
if they lost, I think you had to be kind
of excited about the fact that college football was back
in general. We're gonna be joined by Joel Clatt, who
called the lead college football game. One of those upsets,
Arkansas State going on the road and beating Kansas State.
But a lot of the drama, and I just teased
this as we went to break, A lot of the
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drama has surrounded what's going to happen in the Big Ten.
And if you listen to this show, or you read
out Kick, or you pay a lot of attention to
what we talked about on a daily basis, I kind
of walked you through what I believed was the most
likely outcome in the Big Ten. And I certainly wrote
this on Saturday morning. Big Ten football is gonna play.
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That's based on all the conversations that I have had.
The Corona Brows are going to take this one on
the chin. My understanding is the new medical reports that
have been conveyed is going to lead to a new
vote among all of the chancellors and presidents. That vote
could happen as soon as Monday. It's going to happen
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early this week, and they are going to what I
have been told is play the season starting on October seventeen,
and the idea would be that you would be able
to play eight or nine conference games. You would then
have the Big Ten title game, and you would hope
that your team or teams are able to qualify for
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the College Football Playoff in the wake of that game
taking place, the conference title game in the Big Ten
on December nineteen, the College Football Playoff Committee would then
make their decision about who the playoff teams are on
December twenty. That would mean that everybody is playing except
for the PAC twelve in the five major conferences. Obviously
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Mountain West not playing as well as the MAC, but
this would be a significant reversal of the decision that
was made earlier, and that reversal would directly implicate their
ability to play in the playoff this season. So the
absurdity of Pittsburgh already playing, and of all the high
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school teams playing, and of the Eagles and the Steelers playing,
but Penn State not being able to play, it would
be gone. And the same absurdity would be gone as
it pertains to Ohio, with state high school teams being
able to play in Ohio, with the University of Cincinnati
being able to play, with the Browns at Bengals playing yesterday,
and suddenly Ohio State would be able to play as well.
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So again, follow through on what I am hearing right
now is that there would be a new schedule and
the Big Ten would begin playing on October seventeen, and
as a part of playing on October seventeen, they would
play what I am hearing is an eight or a
nine game conference schedule. Again, that would allow three games
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in October in theory, four games to be played in November,
two more weeks that you would theoretically be able to
play in December, the five, and the twelve. So if
you add all of those up, that theoretically would mean
that you would have right now nine weeks to play
and you would either play nine straight weeks which could
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be a challenge with a tenth week where you could
play uh in the in the Big Ten title game,
or you would play eight with one bye week with
the Big Ten title game then coming. Now here's the
obvious complication there. The SEC is starting on September, which
is next week, which is a good feeling to be
able to say if you're a college football fan. The
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SEC is playing their conference title game on December nine
as well, but they have built in a couple of
different bye weeks in the event that they have issues.
They're also playing ten games in their conference, so you
can already see how the Big Ten, with the decision
that they are putting in place with the idea of
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starting October seventeen, is not building in a lot of
different opportunities for themselves to be able to handle if
anything goes a little bit awry. And so that is
the biggest challenge going forward, trying to figure out exactly
what and how this would look is just seeing what
the overall landscape would look like for the Big Ten. Now,
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A lot of people out there. Initially when we started
saying on this show, hey, we feel good about the
opportunity to play starting in October, a lot of people
out there in the media told me that I was crazy.
They may have even told some of you you were crazy.
Old Clay Travis. He has no idea what he's talking about.
I felt pretty good about the people I was talking
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to and the goal being to play on October seventeenth,
and so I really do believe that the PAC ten
is going to find a way to play. And sorry,
the Big Ten Pact twelve is gonna be left on
an island here. They are gonna be the only major
conference that is not actually playing. And if they aren't playing,
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I don't really know how they rectify this. I think
this is a decision that at least keeps the Big
Ten somewhat in the conversation. For the PAC twelve, I
think they're a total mess. Because some people now are saying, well,
the Pact twelve can start playing in November. Well, what's
the point of that. You've already eliminated yourself from college
football playoff contention. And some of you are also saying, well,
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let's be honest, the PAC twelve is never included in
the in the very often the conversation for the playoff,
other than when they had Marcus Mariota and Oregon, the
PAC twelve hasn't found a way to get a team in.
So this is worth paying attention to the other thing
I've been told and and this kind of surprised me
because I thought that wasn't very likely. I've been told
they're gonna play the bowl games that the college football conferences,
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in particular the Big Twelve, the SEC, and the a
c C are all planning on playing a full bowl schedule.
So I kind of anticipated, oh, we get a four
game college football playoff if there's no way the bowl
games would actually take place. And I now am being told, no, no, no,
the bowl games are gonna take place as well, So
you would get in most to these conferences that are
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already starting play the a c C, the Big Twelve
in the SEC not only full schedules, but you would
also get the conference championship games as well as bowl games.
For the teams that are lower ranked and aren't actually
going to be able to UH to ordinarily have a
chance to compete for a conference championship, they would still
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have an incentive to continue to play because they could
get into a big bowl game. Now, how exactly those
teams are gonna get slotted and everything else remains uncertain. Now,
the big battle that is out there for the Big
Ten is it looks like they're going to be able
to play, and they're gonna get the president in chancellor
votes necessary to play, then they need to have an
NFL like UH testing procedure where nobody is getting sick. Right,
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nobody is testing positive. I shouldn't even stay getting sick
because almost no one testing positive on a college campus
is actually needing to have any sort of significant medical treatment. Indeed,
the number most recently that I heard was over twenty
six thousand college kids have tested positive for COVID and
none of them, none of them have needed to be
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hospitalized on any of these college campuses. And indeed, the
overall numbers on COVID continue to decline rapidly. We are
approaching the lowest number of people hospitalized with COVID since
March in this country. I believe the number is right
around thirty thousand nationwide right now. For instance, state of
Florida put out numbers and said six percent of all
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hospital beds are occupied by COVID patients. The rest are
people who are sick with something other than that. And
by the way, Florida on Sunday reported eight COVID deaths,
which is an insanely low number. Whatever outbreak we had
in the South, in Florida, in Texas, in Arizona, all
of those seemed to be pretty much done. And that's
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why we're able to have college football crowds. And again,
I think the big question that's gonna be in demand
or going to be much debated, is this, how in
the world do you handle all of the challenges that
could come with a late start date from the Big
ten of October seventeen. But that's a lot less significant
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of a challenge than whether or not they were going
to play in the first place. And it now seems
like there's not gonna be any issue at all with
the season actually being able to be played now we
still need the votes to take place, and what exact
time and date that's going to occur, I don't know.
But you've heard so many people out there saying there
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was no way the Big Ten was gonna be able
to play this fall. That's not that's not a concern anymore. Uh.
There have been a lot of people working really hard,
including Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren, uh, Sandy Barber at
Penn State. I could give you a lot of different names,
lots of coaches James Franklin and Ryan Day have worked
as hard as they possibly can to try to find
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a way to get all of these procedures and activities
in place to be able to to have uh their
kids to be able to play in college. All of
this is a moving target one day. Honestly, I feel
like the Big Ten's college football decision making could be
a thirty thirty for itself documentary style Got the White
House President Trump. Involved so many different people doing whatever
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they can to try to make it a reality, and
I think that reality is actually going to occur. So
that is the absolute latest so far as I know,
based on talking to a lot of different people involved
in the Big Ten. Right now solid optimism that they
are gonna play a start date expected of October seventeen.
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All right, when we come back, Joel clad is gonna
be with us. Joel called the game for Fox. I
want to know what that was like. I want to
know where he's headed to this weekend. You might have
been listening on Friday when we we missed him. He's
gonna join us early on Monday to break down everything
that happened in the world of college football. But he
watched a lot of NFL two. We'll get into a
bunch of that with him. I appreciate all of you
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hanging out with us on this Monday morning here as
we break down week one of NFL Action. This is
outkicked the coverage with Clay Travis. Clay Travis here about
to talk with Joel Clatt at Joel Clatt on Twitter.
We missed you on Friday, but you had a well
of a football game. Be honest, did you feel bad
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at all when you woke up and realized that you
had slept through the interview with us for Friday morning? Yes,
because and here's the the there was only one reason.
Not for you personally, because of course not but but
because I have done morning radio, so like I know,
and it's you know, it's it's uh, you know, you're
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probably in the one and four. It is probably going
to be still sleeping in, particularly when you're when you're out,
you are no. I mean that's started. Like people don't
understand this. But when you do solo radio and you
have guests scheduled in the morning. I used to have
a midday show and then I had a afternoon show,
and people might miss you as a guest, but usually
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you could get them right like, oh we missed them
for ten minutes. Now we've got them. We'll go to break,
we'll catch up with them because everybody's awake. But when
you do morning radio, like people sleep through it all
the time. And I'll be honest, I came on. People
probably don't even remember this. There's probably tape somewhere on
this radio program as a guest a couple of times.
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But I also slept through it a couple of times.
And once like once I agreed to do it, and
I didn't even know I was agreeing to morning Like
they were kind of slick about it. They were like, hey,
can you do six twenty, And I was like Oh yeah,
it's Fox Sports Radio National. Just call my cell and
then and then I got a call. I remember waking
up in the morning and being like, who was calling
me from l A at you know, six in the morning. Yeah,
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six twenty am. Big difference between six twenty am and
six twenty pm in terms of your ability to do show. Uh,
And so I totally get that now. Positive Like you guys,
this is maybe it don't have to happen a few
times before all of saidden done, even for your crew
in particular, But you guys were all set to call
Baylor Louisiana Tech and then they have to cancel that
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that game, it's literally like the last minute, so you
get bumped up to Kansas State and uh, and you
end up calling Kansas State hosting Arkansas State, which was
a whale of a football game. I mean, incredibly exciting
moment of the day as far as competitiveness goes. But
how much of a wacky thing is that to suddenly
be anticipating in for one game and then you have
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to do a national television game for two entirely different teams. Yeah,
I mean listen, and you you know me fairly well,
I'm I'm pretty you know O C. D. If you
will type a about my preparation and got a rote. Yes,
like Monday's I do the same thing. Tuesday's they do
the same thing. And then to me, that process is
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what gives me confidence on Saturdays. And so when you
on Wednesday night have to throw everything in the trash
and start over, it's incredibly difficult, like incredibly difficult. So um, yeah, yeah,
I mean there's a lot of storylines that I wish
I would have gotten into more, one of them being
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just the depleted roster at Arkansas State. But to be
honest with you, I was still trying to figure out
who was on the field for them anyway. Um, but man,
it was it was a really good game. They were
down eight starters at one point, you know, and and
their wide receiver Jay Adams, Jonathan Adams is a great player,
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and I'm glad that he got that stage because let's
be honest, right, Arkansas State's not gonna get like Gus
and I at noon on Fox. Ever, and they get us,
and they have their first power of five wins since
oh six, you know, on the road, and Jay Adams
basically announces to the NFL like, hey, I'm a great player,
so good for them. Man. I was very happy for
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Blake Anderson, that entire crew, and in particular Jay Adams.
He was fantastic. I mean, it's possible he made himself
several million dollars with that performance. I mean, I don't
think that's an exactly Absolutely, there's no doubt. There's no
doubt about it, which is to me is why you know,
some people have asked me like, why do you Gusts
get so excited? I'm like, well, partly because of that.
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This dude's out there moston people, and I'm just thinking
to myself, the scouts are going to absolutely love this tape,
and and it's his probably best competition that he'll face
all year long. So um, awesome, awesome time. From that perspective,
what did it feel like to be calling a game
in that setting and how much impact do you think
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on the game itself it had in Kansas State versus
that stadium being completely full in what was a pretty
competitive down to the wire game. In other words, if
that's do you think Kansas State wins finds a way
to win? Is at four point swing to my point swing,
I I think that execution in the red zone tends
to be so much more difficult on the road. And
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and even though they fumbled a couple of times, and
you know, I I don't know. I don't think that
the crowd was gonna change the outcome of that game,
to be honest with you, Clay. And the reason is
is because they were dominant on both lines of scrimmage.
But like if if they were clearly the overmatched team
and they got the breaks and capitalized and it was
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like this was the only way we were gonna win,
I might say, like, boy, that might have been different
with a crowd and momentum and still on and so forth,
but it was it was not like that they dominated
on each line of scrimmage. They're they're outside players made
better plays, you know, I've told I thought that they
were just a better team, to be honest with you.
And it didn't matter if there was gonna be thousand
people in their twelve thousand people. What happened to the
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Big twelve? The I mean, I mean, I feel like,
you know, ordinarily, you know me, I would have been
taken shots at the Big twelve. I would have been
having fun with it on Twitter. But maybe I'm just
getting soft now, but I'm just so excited to have
college football back that usually if a conference had a
day like the Big Twelve did, you'll lose at home.
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Iowa State did, right, Yeah, you'd kill him, you know,
like I mean, Louisiana Lafayette, congratulations to them surging into
the top twenty five. Uh, that was a fun game
to watch, but they were the better team. You just
said on the line of scrimmage, Arkansas State was the
better team than Kansas State on that day. Uh, you
barely got past I mean Texas Tech. I saw sitting
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out a tweet one and oh, you know, they barely
survived against I think it was Houston Baptist that they
were playing against. I mean, it was a I don't
want to call it a disaster, but it was as
close to a disaster on the field as you could
have and what would ordinarily be a season it would
have been a massive story. Everybody would be killing the
Big Twelve. But I've just kind of like glad the
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Big Twelve of his playing and that any games are
going on. But I mean, that was a that was
a heck of a day for the Sun Belt, but
for the Big twelve. I mean, I mean, that's one
of the worst days we've seen for an out a
conference performance. Yeah. Now, let me try to give at
least some perspective because we've seen the SEC have days
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like this, a CC, certainly Big ten has had days
like this. And at the end of the day, what
really carries the mail like the biggest brands, right or
your two or three best. And Texas looked unbelievable and
Oklahoma looked unbelievable and Oklahoma State didn't play. So I
don't want to go overboard, but you're right. Everything that
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you just said is is absolutely right. There's there's no
doubt about that. I was struck, and maybe it was
because the game I did has Arkansas stayed playing their
second game, But I was struck in my conversations with
their coaching staff and even some of their players that
everything was about the game, right. They didn't really talk
about like, well, we hope we get enough negative tests
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in order to play. We hope this, we hope that,
you know, like, everything was about, well, we want to
do this against Kansas State, We want to do that
against Kansa State. This is where we feel good, This
is where we it was a normal conversation about the game,
like I would have with any other team in any
other given year. When I got to Kansas State, it
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was almost like, man, you know, we're just excited to play.
Let's hope we get all the negative tests. On Friday,
Chris Klemen said, I've done everything except coach football. Um,
we had to stop down. They dealt with the social
justice issues, UH, in particular within their teams, stopped down
for that, did the marches. It felt like everything but
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football and the Kansas State building. And then that's exactly
how it played out on the field, right. And I
think to some extent, Kansas State thought that they were
going to roll their helmets out there, and probably Iowa
State felt the same way. And these other programs with
huge chips on their shoulders came in there, and guess what,
when you don't have an off season and a spring
bowl and everything like that, there's a good chance you
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can get beat. I think I saw somewhere, if I'm
not mistaken, where Louisiana Lafayette had several spring practices. UM.
I can't remember if they were one of the teams
that got all eleven or or someone else, but I
know Arkansas State got about eight practices in no one
else got that type of an off season. Maybe all
that's a contributing factor. But again I'll go back to
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a lot of these teams, in particular in the Power Five,
are focusing on and dealing with everything but football right now,
and I think that that hurt them and at least
these non league games, which is not gonna affect the
SEC because they're going to have these non league games. Yeah,
and it's gonna also be fascinating because usually when we're
deciding who's the better conferences are, we use these out
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of conference games. Is an interesting measuring stick, but you
just hit it. The SEC is playing ten in conference,
even the a C they're playing ten conference games, they're
only playing one out of conference, and we haven't really
seen any embarrassing results from them. And then you did
say what I do think is the probably the biggest
selling point for the Big Twelve. It was Texas and
Oklahoma looked really good. Oklahoma State hasn't played yet. Those
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are going to be the two or three teams that
are contending for the Big Twelve title. Probably we'll see
what happens with Baylor. Obviously, they had a really big
turnaround with Matt Rule, and we'll see how sustainable that
is with him gone. But that's probably your spin if
you are a big twelve fan. The teams that we
thought were gonna be good still looks good. It's not
like we got major upsets involving our title contenders. Yeah,
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I mean that's what I would hang my head on, right. So, um,
I am excited to see Texas, to see Oklahoma. I
thought Spencer, by the way, Spencer Rattler is a I
like Jalen Hurts a lot, but he is a massive upgrade,
a massive upgrade. I watched the film already over the
weekend and wow, he made some throws that we had
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we didn't see last year period. So how crazy is
that for Oklahoma to go from I mean, when you
really break it down, Baker Mayfield to Kyler Murray to
Jalen Hurts now to Spencer Rattler, you think he is
just a natural next step all along, like they're gonna
have another stud at quarterback without missing a bat? How
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much of that is? How much of that is Lincoln?
How much of that is Lincoln Riley? Remember back in
the day, like Steve Spurrier, it was like it didn't
even matter who he put in at quarterback. You knew
they were gonna throw for three hundred and four touchdowns
because the system was just so good. Is that what
Lincoln Riley has got rolling right now? But the difference
is Spurrier had some guys who were never actually any
good in the NFL. It seems like Oklahoma's doing a
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pretty good job. If you saw what Kyler Murray did yesterday.
I know Baker has been up and down, but I
mean he was a number one overall pick. I mean,
he may not pay out in the NFL, but and
then Jalen Hurts, we'll see. With Carson Wentz's injury history,
I feel like he's gonna get in. I mean, it
seems like he's not only doing what Steve Spurrier did,
but he's dueing it with guys that are truly elite
level quarterbacks. Do you think Spencer Rattler is that guy? Yeah,
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I absolutely do. I'd be really surprised if he's not
kind of a Heisman finalist caliber player this year. Of course,
we'll see if he plays all the games. You know,
hopefully you can avoid COVID. He can stay healthy, um,
all of those things. But his arm talent is is elite.
His his movement, his his ability to make decisions process information.
He's really really good. And to your point about you know,
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is that the quarterbacks is that the system. It's obviously
a combination of both. These guys are all really good players,
but I think it should be noted. I think that
the best thing that Lincoln does is not just quote
unquote the system, but the fact that he uses the
system and morphs it to fit the strength of what
his quarterback can do. Bet the Baker Mayfield offense was
just a little bit different than the Kyler Murray offense,
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which was very different I felt like, at least from
the Jalen Hurts offense, which is now going to look
very different from the Spencer Rattler offense. So he's gonna
take this system and he's gonna tailor at and and
really maximize the elements of the offense that I think
are going to focus on the strength of the quarterback
that he has. I think he would have had the
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success with Tanner Mordecai as well, you know, I mean,
he's just he's the best offensive coach in college football.
I think Ryan Day is probably right behind him, but
it's at this point like it's he's He's way up there, Clay.
I mean, look at what he's been able to do
regardless of the players that he's got up there. Um,
I want to ask you, let's go into the big
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ten here for a minute. Um, obviously you had the
Big twelve playing, you had the A C. C playing.
Let me before I get to the big ten. Trevor Lawrence,
I don't know if you said you watched the Spencer
Rattler film. I watched the entire Clemson game. And I'm
gonna be honest, Jill, if if Trevor Lawrence stays healthy,
and that's always true, but I think it's probably even
more true obviously in in this year. But if he
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plays every game, I just I don't see. I mean
I watched Georgia Tech and Florida State play. I mean
that looked like a pillow fight. Um, I watched my
Notre Dame did not look good against Duke. Like, I
just don't see any way that Clemson is not in
the College Football Playoff? Are you with me? They? I mean,
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they are just so much better than everybody else in
the yeah, and and they could still lose a game, Joel.
They don't even have to be perfect, and they're still
going to make the playoff well, and but they're not
going to lose a game. That's yeah, I agree with.
Last year, the only the only team to play him
in the a c C within a score was North Carolina, right,
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and they didn't play well and they ended up beating them. Um,
it was within a score. Every other a CEC team
they played and they beat and it wasn't like, oh,
double digits. So two scores by thirty one or more.
Think about that. That's that's over four touchdowns. That's like
four tugs and a field goal. That's the margin between
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them and the rest of the league. It's not even close.
So not only are they just like gonna walk into
the playoff, but whoever there to meet them, you know,
Bama better, Bama better hope that they don't stumble a
few times in the ten league ten game conference schedule.
So it'll be interesting, man. But Clemson is is certainly
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I think, in a class by themselves. Right now, all right,
let's go to the Big Ten. I just talked about.
To open the second hour of the program, I was
talking about what I was seeing and hearing about the
Big Ten, that I'm optimistic they're going to be back
to play potentially starting October seventeenth, that they're trying to
put together a plan that would allow them to finish
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their season by December nineteen with the Big Ten championship
game and then potentially get a team, whether it's Ohio State,
Penn State, whoever, the champion of the Big Ten is
into the playoff. What are you hearing and are you
also optimistic that things are moving in that direction? Yes,
I'm I'm I'm very optimistic. Um. Remember now, though I'm
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one of those guys. Someone you know asked me sarcastically,
the percentage chance that we had a college football season,
and this was two months ago, and I replied, a
season of some kind of some sort, and I'll yeah,
it's correct. And I also said, and there will be
fans in some locations to some extent, which has also
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been proven to be correct. And I am I will
tell you right now, the Big Ten is playing right
like it's it's happening, whether it happens October, October, November,
you know, early November, by Thanksgiving. So I don't know
exactly when, but they're they're coming back like they're coming back,
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and the push to get them back as soon as
possible this October seventeenth date that you're hearing is because
they feel like they could have an eight maybe nine
game league schedule, have a championship game, and still be
included into the College Football Playoff. It should be noted
I feel like the loudest and most impactful and influential
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voices in the room and leaving this discussion are Ryan Day,
the head coach of Ohio State, Jane Smith, the ada
at Ohio State, their team doctor, and their president. Those
are the people that are pushing really hard. Why Because
you just talked about Clemson and how good they are,
and I certainly agree. I think personally that Ohio State
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is the second best team pretty clearly in the country.
They are really really talented, and they are dying to
get a chance to play for a national championship. So
I think that the conference knows that that that would
be better for the conference. I think that now with
some of the PCR testing and Anergin testing that you
can do in particular in five, ten, fifteen minutes, is
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going to make this a much better vote from a
medical perspective. And and the Big Ten is gonna come back, man,
It's it's just a matter of of when at this point.
And and I think as far as as far as
I've been told Clay, the presentations over the weekend regarding
an October start went and I quote really really well
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end quote. That's a good sign. So if they come back,
then the big question will be what do they need
to do and how many games do they have to
play in order to be able to quote unquote qualify
for the playoff? Like that's gonna be It could potentially
turn into a debate because right because if they come
back on October seventeenth is the reason, you know, kind
of looking at it, you're hoping that you can basically
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find a way to play every week, right or eight
weeks at least, get at least eight games in What
are they going to say about is there a minimum
number of games that you have to play in order
to qualify for the College Football Playoff? I don't know. Obviously,
the SEC is gonna look around and say, wait a minute,
we're playing ten conference games. Uh. The irony here would
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be f Ohio State in the Big ten try to say, oh,
we're playing eight and the SEC sens Q Wait a minute, know,
like we've got unequal unequal bargaining power here, because that
could turn into an issue, right, I mean, the positive
is trying to fight their way back that. I mean,
you're bringing up all great points, right. Um, there's there's
no doubt, and I'm sure that there's going to be
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some minimum level of games in order to qualify. I'm
sure of it. Now. Having said that, you know, these
these conferences own the playoffs. The n C, A doesn't,
which means but the A, C, C, SEC and Big
twelve have a say, and they're not happy with the
Big ten. The Big ten put these conferences really bad position.
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That's right, because everybody, you know, they were like, why
aren't you canceling? Look at the Big ten, look at
the Pack twelve, and so you know, these conferences are
not gonna want to do the Big ten any favors period.
So I think that that's kind of the next political
battle within college football, and I think it could get,
to be honest with you, really nasty, um, just because
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I don't think that those three conferences are going to
try to do the Big ten any favors, and you know,
if I was in their position, I certainly see their point. Joel,
we'll talk to you maybe Friday. Hopefully you'll answer the
phone if we call. Do you know where you're gonna be?
Second time the charm, I'm back in Baylor. We're gonna
try it again in Baylor. We got the Houston Baylor
game that came together in thirty seconds thanks to Joel Klatt.
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We'll talk to him later in the week. This is
outkicked the coverage with Clay Travis a lot to dive into. Obviously,
on the first Monday after a nearly complete college football schedule,
uh and certainly after a nearly complete NFL schedule, we
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got a couple of Monday night football games. I always
think the opening Monday Night football of the year, when
we've got the East Coast Monday Night Football and the
West Coast Monday Night Football, is awesome, and frankly every
year I feel like I make the same argument, which is, man,
I wish we had to Monday night football games all
year round, because I think it's cool to be able
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if you're on the West Coast to have a West
Coast or Mountain Monday night football game. And I also
think it's cool to have an East Coast so when
you come home, that game is going on. But we
had an absolute bevy of games going on over the
course of the weekend, so many different storylines to get into.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us, and you
know who didn't stink And I think a lot of
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you watched and you thought to yourselves, Oh, Cam Newton,
and I'm gonna bring in dub here to talk about
him with me because you are an Auburn fan. Dub
Cam Newton is one of the best all time front
running quarterbacks. What I mean by that is there are
some quarterbacks who are so mentally tough that even when
they lose, you know that things are still gonna be
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fine with them. Cam. It seems to me like has
always been a player that when things start rolling for him,
he can get that role going. We saw it with
Carolina the year they went seventeen and one, when he
was the n L m v P and the n
L m v P, the m v P of the NFC.
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Uh and then he got into the Super Bowl. Is
in an m v P of the entire NFL. But
the best quarterback in the entire NFL, and then he
was a seven point favorite. Everybody expected that he was
gonna be coordinated. Basically, Denver Broncos took it to him
and he never really ever has gotten back. But I
watched him playing yesterday and I thought to myself, Oh,
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Bill Belichick might have gotten one of the greatest steals
of all time. He replaced one m v P in
Tom Brady with another m v P and look, Cam
only through the ball nineteen times. He completed fifteen of them,
but he ran the ball fifteen times. And he is
such an unbelievable talent in the backfield that when he's healthy,
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he's hard to stop. He had two rushing touchdowns. Suddenly,
Bill Belichick has got a wrink he didn't have for
twenty years with Tom Brady and Boom. He is bringing
in an unbelievable talent and the stat that I saw,
I mean, there's so much to get to him. Gonna
talk about more about the Brady Belichick the dynamic to
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start off our three. But dub you were an Auburn fan.
You've seen Cam Newton and how dominant he can be.
Did you not get the feeling watching the Patriots play
against the Dolphins. Oh, this is potentially gonna be a
heck of a season for Cam Newton, and man, it
feels like Belichick got another steel. Absolutely personally, I thought
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this was the story of the day yesterday on the
first NFL Sunday back from uh Corona and all that.
Because you mentioned fifteen Russia attempts. That's the first time
Cam Newton's had fifteen plus rush attempts since October of
two thousand fourteen. That's a long time. Because this is
the healthiest he's ever been. He's Belichick basically has him
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on a one year rental. So how do you treat
a rental? I mean, he's gonna play Cam Newton the
way that Cam Newton should be played because he's not
necessarily worried about the future of exactly so. And frankly,
I don't think Cam can be worried about five years
from now because he has to go balls to the
wall in this one year and prove that somebody needs
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to sign him to a four or three or five
year extension, right like, this is his opportunity to demonstrate
I still got enough juice to be a starter in
this league. And if you can't win with Belichick, You're
probably not gonna be able to win with anybody. But
this is potentially a seventy five or a hundred million
dollar season for cam Right. And that's why I've been
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saying he's the number one story of this NFL season
because his ceiling could be so high and his floor
could be so low, and the same thing can be
true with the Patriots. Absolutely, And the one thing the
Belichick and the Patriots have always excelled at his situational football,
the third and shorts, the fourth and shorts. They got
the biggest weapon in the NFL as far as I'm
concerned for those exact situations. So I think the Patriots
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are gonna be very, very dangerous. Tell me if you've
heard that one before. Just when you think that we
don't have to worry about this team anymore, they go
and they get an unbelievable weapon. When we come back,
I'm gonna talk more about Brady Belichick, but so many
different stories to get into. We're gonna talk about Joe
Burrow making his debut, Gardner Minshew, what in the world
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happened with the Jags taken down the Colts, the Cardinals
and Kyler Murray, the Bears come back, what in the
world DeAndre Swift, the Ravens with Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield
looked bad again, and the Redskins, who looked like the
worst team on the planet, came surging back against Carson
Wentz and the Eagles. All of those things to discuss
to start off the third hour the program, I'm Clay Travis.
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Sports Radio. So we had a heck of a weekend.
I would call it in college football, a really great
weekend if you are a fan of the Sun Belt,
if you're a fan of Arkansas State, if you're a
fan of Louisiana Lafayette, maybe the greatest weekend of your
college football life. And if you're a fan of an
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A C C team or a Big twelve team, even
if they lost, I think you had to be kind
of excited about the fact that college football was back
in general. We're gonna be joined by Joel Clatt, who
called the lead college football game. One of those upsets,
Arkansas State going on the road and beating Kansas State.
But a lot of the drama, and I just teased
this as we went to break, A lot of the
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drama has surrounded what's going to happen in the Big Ten.
And if you listen to this show, or you read
out Kick, or you pay a lot of attention to
what we talked about on a daily basis, I kind
of walked you through what I believed was the most
likely outcome in the Big Ten. And I certainly wrote
this on Saturday morning. Big Ten football is gonna play.
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That's based on all the conversations that I have had.
The Corona Brows are going to take this one on
the chin. My understanding is the new medical reports that
have been conveyed is going to lead to a new
vote among all of the chancellors and presidents. That vote
could happen as soon as Monday. It's going to happen
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early this week, and they are going to what I
have been told is play the season starting on October seventeen,
and the idea would be that you would be able
to play eight or nine conference games. You would then
have the Big Ten title game, and you would hope
that your team or teams are able to qualify for
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the College Football Playoff in the wake of that game
taking place, the conference title game in the Big Ten
on December nineteen, the College Football Playoff Committee would then
make their decision about who the playoff teams are on
December twenty. That would mean that everybody is playing except
for the PAC twelve in the five major conferences. Obviously
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Mountain West not playing as well as the MAC, but
this would be a significant reversal of the decision that
was made earlier, and that reversal would directly implicate their
ability to play in the playoff this season. So the
absurdity of Pittsburgh already playing, and of all the high
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school teams playing, and of the Eagles and the Steelers playing,
but Penn State not being able to play, it would
be gone. And the same absurdity would be gone as
it pertains to Ohio, with state high school teams being
able to play in Ohio, with the University of Cincinnati
being able to play, with the Browns at Bengals playing yesterday,
and suddenly Ohio State would be able to play as well.
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So again, follow through on what I am hearing right
now is that there would be a new schedule and
the Big Ten would begin playing on October seventeen, and
as a part of playing on October seventeen, they would
play what I am hearing is an eight or a
nine game conference schedule. Again, that would allow three games
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in October in theory, four games to be played in November,
two more weeks that you would theoretically be able to
play in December, the five, and the twelve. So if
you add all of those up, that theoretically would mean
that you would have right now nine weeks to play
and you would either play nine straight weeks which could
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be a challenge with a tenth week where you could
play uh in the in the Big Ten title game,
or you would play eight with one bye week with
the Big Ten title game then coming. Now here's the
obvious complication there. The SEC is starting on September, which
is next week, which is a good feeling to be
able to say if you're a college football fan. The
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SEC is playing their conference title game on December nine
as well, but they have built in a couple of
different bye weeks in the event that they have issues.
They're also playing ten games in their conference, so you
can already see how the Big Ten, with the decision
that they are putting in place with the idea of
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starting October seventeen, is not building in a lot of
different opportunities for themselves to be able to handle if
anything goes a little bit awry. And so that is
the biggest challenge going forward, trying to figure out exactly
what and how this would look is just seeing what
the overall landscape would look like for the Big Ten. Now,
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A lot of people out there. Initially when we started
saying on this show, hey, we feel good about the
opportunity to play starting in October, a lot of people
out there in the media told me that I was crazy.
They may have even told some of you you were crazy.
Old Clay Travis. He has no idea what he's talking about.
I felt pretty good about the people I was talking
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to and the goal being to play on October seventeenth,
and so I really do believe that the PAC ten
is going to find a way to play. And sorry,
the Big Ten Pact twelve is gonna be left on
an island here. They are gonna be the only major
conference that is not actually playing. And if they aren't playing,
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I don't really know how they rectify this. I think
this is a decision that at least keeps the Big
Ten somewhat in the conversation. For the PAC twelve, I
think they're a total mess. Because some people now are saying, well,
the Pact twelve can start playing in November. Well, what's
the point of that. You've already eliminated yourself from college
football playoff contention. And some of you are also saying, well,
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let's be honest, the PAC twelve is never included in
the in the very often the conversation for the playoff,
other than when they had Marcus Mariota and Oregon, the
PAC twelve hasn't found a way to get a team in.
So this is worth paying attention to the other thing
I've been told and and this kind of surprised me
because I thought that wasn't very likely. I've been told
they're gonna play the bowl games that the college football conferences,
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in particular the Big Twelve, the SEC, and the a
c C are all planning on playing a full bowl schedule.
So I kind of anticipated, oh, we get a four
game college football playoff if there's no way the bowl
games would actually take place. And I now am being told, no, no, no,
the bowl games are gonna take place as well, So
you would get in most to these conferences that are
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already starting play the a c C, the Big Twelve
in the SEC not only full schedules, but you would
also get the conference championship games as well as bowl games.
For the teams that are lower ranked and aren't actually
going to be able to UH to ordinarily have a
chance to compete for a conference championship, they would still
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have an incentive to continue to play because they could
get into a big bowl game. Now, how exactly those
teams are gonna get slotted and everything else remains uncertain. Now,
the big battle that is out there for the Big
Ten is it looks like they're going to be able
to play, and they're gonna get the president in chancellor
votes necessary to play, then they need to have an
NFL like UH testing procedure where nobody is getting sick. Right,
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nobody is testing positive. I shouldn't even stay getting sick
because almost no one testing positive on a college campus
is actually needing to have any sort of significant medical treatment. Indeed,
the number most recently that I heard was over twenty
six thousand college kids have tested positive for COVID and
none of them, none of them have needed to be
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hospitalized on any of these college campuses. And indeed, the
overall numbers on COVID continue to decline rapidly. We are
approaching the lowest number of people hospitalized with COVID since
March in this country. I believe the number is right
around thirty thousand nationwide right now. For instance, state of
Florida put out numbers and said six percent of all
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hospital beds are occupied by COVID patients. The rest are
people who are sick with something other than that. And
by the way, Florida on Sunday reported eight COVID deaths,
which is an insanely low number. Whatever outbreak we had
in the South, in Florida, in Texas, in Arizona, all
of those seemed to be pretty much done. And that's
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why we're able to have college football crowds. And again,
I think the big question that's gonna be in demand
or going to be much debated, is this, how in
the world do you handle all of the challenges that
could come with a late start date from the Big
ten of October seventeen. But that's a lot less significant
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of a challenge than whether or not they were going
to play in the first place. And it now seems
like there's not gonna be any issue at all with
the season actually being able to be played now we
still need the votes to take place, and what exact
time and date that's going to occur, I don't know.
But you've heard so many people out there saying there
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was no way the Big Ten was gonna be able
to play this fall. That's not that's not a concern anymore. Uh.
There have been a lot of people working really hard,
including Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren, uh, Sandy Barber at
Penn State. I could give you a lot of different names,
lots of coaches James Franklin and Ryan Day have worked
as hard as they possibly can to try to find
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a way to get all of these procedures and activities
in place to be able to to have uh their
kids to be able to play in college. All of
this is a moving target one day. Honestly, I feel
like the Big Ten's college football decision making could be
a thirty thirty for itself documentary style Got the White
House President Trump. Involved so many different people doing whatever
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they can to try to make it a reality, and
I think that reality is actually going to occur. So
that is the absolute latest so far as I know,
based on talking to a lot of different people involved
in the Big Ten. Right now solid optimism that they
are gonna play a start date expected of October seventeen.
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All right, when we come back, Joel clad is gonna
be with us. Joel called the game for Fox. I
want to know what that was like. I want to
know where he's headed to this weekend. You might have
been listening on Friday when we we missed him. He's
gonna join us early on Monday to break down everything
that happened in the world of college football. But he
watched a lot of NFL two. We'll get into a
bunch of that with him. I appreciate all of you
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hanging out with us on this Monday morning here as
we break down week one of NFL Action. This is
outkicked the coverage with Clay Travis. Clay Travis here about
to talk with Joel Clatt at Joel Clatt on Twitter.
We missed you on Friday, but you had a well
of a football game. Be honest, did you feel bad
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at all when you woke up and realized that you
had slept through the interview with us for Friday morning? Yes,
because and here's the the there was only one reason.
Not for you personally, because of course not but but
because I have done morning radio, so like I know,
and it's you know, it's it's uh, you know, you're
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probably in the one and four. It is probably going
to be still sleeping in, particularly when you're when you're out,
you are no. I mean that's started. Like people don't
understand this. But when you do solo radio and you
have guests scheduled in the morning. I used to have
a midday show and then I had a afternoon show,
and people might miss you as a guest, but usually
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you could get them right like, oh we missed them
for ten minutes. Now we've got them. We'll go to break,
we'll catch up with them because everybody's awake. But when
you do morning radio, like people sleep through it all
the time. And I'll be honest, I came on. People
probably don't even remember this. There's probably tape somewhere on
this radio program as a guest a couple of times.
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But I also slept through it a couple of times.
And once like once I agreed to do it, and
I didn't even know I was agreeing to morning Like
they were kind of slick about it. They were like, hey,
can you do six twenty, And I was like Oh yeah,
it's Fox Sports Radio National. Just call my cell and
then and then I got a call. I remember waking
up in the morning and being like, who was calling
me from l A at you know, six in the morning. Yeah,
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six twenty am. Big difference between six twenty am and
six twenty pm in terms of your ability to do show. Uh,
And so I totally get that now. Positive Like you guys,
this is maybe it don't have to happen a few
times before all of saidden done, even for your crew
in particular, But you guys were all set to call
Baylor Louisiana Tech and then they have to cancel that
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that game, it's literally like the last minute, so you
get bumped up to Kansas State and uh, and you
end up calling Kansas State hosting Arkansas State, which was
a whale of a football game. I mean, incredibly exciting
moment of the day as far as competitiveness goes. But
how much of a wacky thing is that to suddenly
be anticipating in for one game and then you have
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to do a national television game for two entirely different teams. Yeah,
I mean listen, and you you know me fairly well,
I'm I'm pretty you know O C. D. If you
will type a about my preparation and got a rote. Yes,
like Monday's I do the same thing. Tuesday's they do
the same thing. And then to me, that process is
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what gives me confidence on Saturdays. And so when you
on Wednesday night have to throw everything in the trash
and start over, it's incredibly difficult, like incredibly difficult. So um, yeah, yeah,
I mean there's a lot of storylines that I wish
I would have gotten into more, one of them being
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just the depleted roster at Arkansas State. But to be
honest with you, I was still trying to figure out
who was on the field for them anyway. Um, but man,
it was it was a really good game. They were
down eight starters at one point, you know, and and
their wide receiver Jay Adams, Jonathan Adams is a great player,
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and I'm glad that he got that stage because let's
be honest, right, Arkansas State's not gonna get like Gus
and I at noon on Fox. Ever, and they get us,
and they have their first power of five wins since
oh six, you know, on the road, and Jay Adams
basically announces to the NFL like, hey, I'm a great player,
so good for them. Man. I was very happy for
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Blake Anderson, that entire crew, and in particular Jay Adams.
He was fantastic. I mean, it's possible he made himself
several million dollars with that performance. I mean, I don't
think that's an exactly Absolutely, there's no doubt. There's no
doubt about it, which is to me is why you know,
some people have asked me like, why do you Gusts
get so excited? I'm like, well, partly because of that.
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This dude's out there moston people, and I'm just thinking
to myself, the scouts are going to absolutely love this tape,
and and it's his probably best competition that he'll face
all year long. So um, awesome, awesome time. From that perspective,
what did it feel like to be calling a game
in that setting and how much impact do you think
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on the game itself it had in Kansas State versus
that stadium being completely full in what was a pretty
competitive down to the wire game. In other words, if
that's do you think Kansas State wins finds a way
to win? Is at four point swing to my point swing,
I I think that execution in the red zone tends
to be so much more difficult on the road. And
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and even though they fumbled a couple of times, and
you know, I I don't know. I don't think that
the crowd was gonna change the outcome of that game,
to be honest with you, Clay. And the reason is
is because they were dominant on both lines of scrimmage.
But like if if they were clearly the overmatched team
and they got the breaks and capitalized and it was
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like this was the only way we were gonna win,
I might say, like, boy, that might have been different
with a crowd and momentum and still on and so forth,
but it was it was not like that they dominated
on each line of scrimmage. They're they're outside players made
better plays, you know, I've told I thought that they
were just a better team, to be honest with you.
And it didn't matter if there was gonna be thousand
people in their twelve thousand people. What happened to the
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Big twelve? The I mean, I mean, I feel like,
you know, ordinarily, you know me, I would have been
taken shots at the Big twelve. I would have been
having fun with it on Twitter. But maybe I'm just
getting soft now, but I'm just so excited to have
college football back that usually if a conference had a
day like the Big Twelve did, you'll lose at home.
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Iowa State did, right, Yeah, you'd kill him, you know,
like I mean, Louisiana Lafayette, congratulations to them surging into
the top twenty five. Uh, that was a fun game
to watch, but they were the better team. You just
said on the line of scrimmage, Arkansas State was the
better team than Kansas State on that day. Uh, you
barely got past I mean Texas Tech. I saw sitting
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out a tweet one and oh, you know, they barely
survived against I think it was Houston Baptist that they
were playing against. I mean, it was a I don't
want to call it a disaster, but it was as
close to a disaster on the field as you could
have and what would ordinarily be a season it would
have been a massive story. Everybody would be killing the
Big Twelve. But I've just kind of like glad the
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Big Twelve of his playing and that any games are
going on. But I mean, that was a that was
a heck of a day for the Sun Belt, but
for the Big twelve. I mean, I mean, that's one
of the worst days we've seen for an out a
conference performance. Yeah. Now, let me try to give at
least some perspective because we've seen the SEC have days
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like this, a CC, certainly Big ten has had days
like this. And at the end of the day, what
really carries the mail like the biggest brands, right or
your two or three best. And Texas looked unbelievable and
Oklahoma looked unbelievable and Oklahoma State didn't play. So I
don't want to go overboard, but you're right. Everything that
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you just said is is absolutely right. There's there's no
doubt about that. I was struck, and maybe it was
because the game I did has Arkansas stayed playing their
second game, But I was struck in my conversations with
their coaching staff and even some of their players that
everything was about the game, right. They didn't really talk
about like, well, we hope we get enough negative tests
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in order to play. We hope this, we hope that,
you know, like, everything was about, well, we want to
do this against Kansas State, We want to do that
against Kansa State. This is where we feel good, This
is where we it was a normal conversation about the game,
like I would have with any other team in any
other given year. When I got to Kansas State, it
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was almost like, man, you know, we're just excited to play.
Let's hope we get all the negative tests. On Friday,
Chris Klemen said, I've done everything except coach football. Um,
we had to stop down. They dealt with the social
justice issues, UH, in particular within their teams, stopped down
for that, did the marches. It felt like everything but
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football and the Kansas State building. And then that's exactly
how it played out on the field, right. And I
think to some extent, Kansas State thought that they were
going to roll their helmets out there, and probably Iowa
State felt the same way. And these other programs with
huge chips on their shoulders came in there, and guess what,
when you don't have an off season and a spring
bowl and everything like that, there's a good chance you
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can get beat. I think I saw somewhere, if I'm
not mistaken, where Louisiana Lafayette had several spring practices. UM.
I can't remember if they were one of the teams
that got all eleven or or someone else, but I
know Arkansas State got about eight practices in no one
else got that type of an off season. Maybe all
that's a contributing factor. But again I'll go back to
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a lot of these teams, in particular in the Power Five,
are focusing on and dealing with everything but football right now,
and I think that that hurt them and at least
these non league games, which is not gonna affect the
SEC because they're going to have these non league games. Yeah,
and it's gonna also be fascinating because usually when we're
deciding who's the better conferences are, we use these out
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of conference games. Is an interesting measuring stick, but you
just hit it. The SEC is playing ten in conference,
even the a C they're playing ten conference games, they're
only playing one out of conference, and we haven't really
seen any embarrassing results from them. And then you did
say what I do think is the probably the biggest
selling point for the Big Twelve. It was Texas and
Oklahoma looked really good. Oklahoma State hasn't played yet. Those
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are going to be the two or three teams that
are contending for the Big Twelve title. Probably we'll see
what happens with Baylor. Obviously, they had a really big
turnaround with Matt Rule, and we'll see how sustainable that
is with him gone. But that's probably your spin if
you are a big twelve fan. The teams that we
thought were gonna be good still looks good. It's not
like we got major upsets involving our title contenders. Yeah,
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I mean that's what I would hang my head on, right. So, um,
I am excited to see Texas, to see Oklahoma. I
thought Spencer, by the way, Spencer Rattler is a I
like Jalen Hurts a lot, but he is a massive upgrade,
a massive upgrade. I watched the film already over the
weekend and wow, he made some throws that we had
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we didn't see last year period. So how crazy is
that for Oklahoma to go from I mean, when you
really break it down, Baker Mayfield to Kyler Murray to
Jalen Hurts now to Spencer Rattler, you think he is
just a natural next step all along, like they're gonna
have another stud at quarterback without missing a bat? How
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much of that is? How much of that is Lincoln?
How much of that is Lincoln Riley? Remember back in
the day, like Steve Spurrier, it was like it didn't
even matter who he put in at quarterback. You knew
they were gonna throw for three hundred and four touchdowns
because the system was just so good. Is that what
Lincoln Riley has got rolling right now? But the difference
is Spurrier had some guys who were never actually any
good in the NFL. It seems like Oklahoma's doing a
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pretty good job. If you saw what Kyler Murray did yesterday.
I know Baker has been up and down, but I
mean he was a number one overall pick. I mean,
he may not pay out in the NFL, but and
then Jalen Hurts, we'll see. With Carson Wentz's injury history,
I feel like he's gonna get in. I mean, it
seems like he's not only doing what Steve Spurrier did,
but he's dueing it with guys that are truly elite
level quarterbacks. Do you think Spencer Rattler is that guy? Yeah,
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I absolutely do. I'd be really surprised if he's not
kind of a Heisman finalist caliber player this year. Of course,
we'll see if he plays all the games. You know,
hopefully you can avoid COVID. He can stay healthy, um,
all of those things. But his arm talent is is elite.
His his movement, his his ability to make decisions process information.
He's really really good. And to your point about you know,
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is that the quarterbacks is that the system. It's obviously
a combination of both. These guys are all really good players,
but I think it should be noted. I think that
the best thing that Lincoln does is not just quote
unquote the system, but the fact that he uses the
system and morphs it to fit the strength of what
his quarterback can do. Bet the Baker Mayfield offense was
just a little bit different than the Kyler Murray offense,
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which was very different I felt like, at least from
the Jalen Hurts offense, which is now going to look
very different from the Spencer Rattler offense. So he's gonna
take this system and he's gonna tailor at and and
really maximize the elements of the offense that I think
are going to focus on the strength of the quarterback
that he has. I think he would have had the
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success with Tanner Mordecai as well, you know, I mean,
he's just he's the best offensive coach in college football.
I think Ryan Day is probably right behind him, but
it's at this point like it's he's He's way up there, Clay.
I mean, look at what he's been able to do
regardless of the players that he's got up there. Um,
I want to ask you, let's go into the big
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ten here for a minute. Um, obviously you had the
Big twelve playing, you had the A C. C playing.
Let me before I get to the big ten. Trevor Lawrence,
I don't know if you said you watched the Spencer
Rattler film. I watched the entire Clemson game. And I'm
gonna be honest, Jill, if if Trevor Lawrence stays healthy,
and that's always true, but I think it's probably even
more true obviously in in this year. But if he
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plays every game, I just I don't see. I mean
I watched Georgia Tech and Florida State play. I mean
that looked like a pillow fight. Um, I watched my
Notre Dame did not look good against Duke. Like, I
just don't see any way that Clemson is not in
the College Football Playoff? Are you with me? They? I mean,
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they are just so much better than everybody else in
the yeah, and and they could still lose a game, Joel.
They don't even have to be perfect, and they're still
going to make the playoff well, and but they're not
going to lose a game. That's yeah, I agree with.
Last year, the only the only team to play him
in the a c C within a score was North Carolina, right,
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and they didn't play well and they ended up beating them. Um,
it was within a score. Every other a CEC team
they played and they beat and it wasn't like, oh,
double digits. So two scores by thirty one or more.
Think about that. That's that's over four touchdowns. That's like
four tugs and a field goal. That's the margin between
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them and the rest of the league. It's not even close.
So not only are they just like gonna walk into
the playoff, but whoever there to meet them, you know,
Bama better, Bama better hope that they don't stumble a
few times in the ten league ten game conference schedule.
So it'll be interesting, man. But Clemson is is certainly
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I think, in a class by themselves. Right now, all right,
let's go to the Big Ten. I just talked about.
To open the second hour of the program, I was
talking about what I was seeing and hearing about the
Big Ten, that I'm optimistic they're going to be back
to play potentially starting October seventeenth, that they're trying to
put together a plan that would allow them to finish
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their season by December nineteen with the Big Ten championship
game and then potentially get a team, whether it's Ohio State,
Penn State, whoever, the champion of the Big Ten is
into the playoff. What are you hearing and are you
also optimistic that things are moving in that direction? Yes,
I'm I'm I'm very optimistic. Um. Remember now, though I'm
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one of those guys. Someone you know asked me sarcastically,
the percentage chance that we had a college football season,
and this was two months ago, and I replied, a
season of some kind of some sort, and I'll yeah,
it's correct. And I also said, and there will be
fans in some locations to some extent, which has also
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been proven to be correct. And I am I will
tell you right now, the Big Ten is playing right
like it's it's happening, whether it happens October, October, November,
you know, early November, by Thanksgiving. So I don't know
exactly when, but they're they're coming back like they're coming back,
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and the push to get them back as soon as
possible this October seventeenth date that you're hearing is because
they feel like they could have an eight maybe nine
game league schedule, have a championship game, and still be
included into the College Football Playoff. It should be noted
I feel like the loudest and most impactful and influential
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voices in the room and leaving this discussion are Ryan Day,
the head coach of Ohio State, Jane Smith, the ada
at Ohio State, their team doctor, and their president. Those
are the people that are pushing really hard. Why Because
you just talked about Clemson and how good they are,
and I certainly agree. I think personally that Ohio State
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is the second best team pretty clearly in the country.
They are really really talented, and they are dying to
get a chance to play for a national championship. So
I think that the conference knows that that that would
be better for the conference. I think that now with
some of the PCR testing and Anergin testing that you
can do in particular in five, ten, fifteen minutes, is
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going to make this a much better vote from a
medical perspective. And and the Big Ten is gonna come back, man,
It's it's just a matter of of when at this point.
And and I think as far as as far as
I've been told Clay, the presentations over the weekend regarding
an October start went and I quote really really well
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end quote. That's a good sign. So if they come back,
then the big question will be what do they need
to do and how many games do they have to
play in order to be able to quote unquote qualify
for the playoff? Like that's gonna be It could potentially
turn into a debate because right because if they come
back on October seventeenth is the reason, you know, kind
of looking at it, you're hoping that you can basically
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find a way to play every week, right or eight
weeks at least, get at least eight games in What
are they going to say about is there a minimum
number of games that you have to play in order
to qualify for the College Football Playoff? I don't know. Obviously,
the SEC is gonna look around and say, wait a minute,
we're playing ten conference games. Uh. The irony here would
(29:54):
be f Ohio State in the Big ten try to say, oh,
we're playing eight and the SEC sens Q Wait a minute, know,
like we've got unequal unequal bargaining power here, because that
could turn into an issue, right, I mean, the positive
is trying to fight their way back that. I mean,
you're bringing up all great points, right. Um, there's there's
no doubt, and I'm sure that there's going to be
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some minimum level of games in order to qualify. I'm
sure of it. Now. Having said that, you know, these
these conferences own the playoffs. The n C, A doesn't,
which means but the A, C, C, SEC and Big
twelve have a say, and they're not happy with the
Big ten. The Big ten put these conferences really bad position.
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That's right, because everybody, you know, they were like, why
aren't you canceling? Look at the Big ten, look at
the Pack twelve, and so you know, these conferences are
not gonna want to do the Big ten any favors period.
So I think that that's kind of the next political
battle within college football, and I think it could get,
to be honest with you, really nasty, um, just because
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I don't think that those three conferences are going to
try to do the Big ten any favors, and you know,
if I was in their position, I certainly see their point. Joel,
we'll talk to you maybe Friday. Hopefully you'll answer the
phone if we call. Do you know where you're gonna be?
Second time the charm, I'm back in Baylor. We're gonna
try it again in Baylor. We got the Houston Baylor
game that came together in thirty seconds thanks to Joel Klatt.
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We'll talk to him later in the week. This is
outkicked the coverage with Clay Travis a lot to dive into. Obviously,
on the first Monday after a nearly complete college football schedule,
uh and certainly after a nearly complete NFL schedule, we
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got a couple of Monday night football games. I always
think the opening Monday Night football of the year, when
we've got the East Coast Monday Night Football and the
West Coast Monday Night Football, is awesome, and frankly every
year I feel like I make the same argument, which is, man,
I wish we had to Monday night football games all
year round, because I think it's cool to be able
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if you're on the West Coast to have a West
Coast or Mountain Monday night football game. And I also
think it's cool to have an East Coast so when
you come home, that game is going on. But we
had an absolute bevy of games going on over the
course of the weekend, so many different storylines to get into.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us, and you
know who didn't stink And I think a lot of
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you watched and you thought to yourselves, Oh, Cam Newton,
and I'm gonna bring in dub here to talk about
him with me because you are an Auburn fan. Dub
Cam Newton is one of the best all time front
running quarterbacks. What I mean by that is there are
some quarterbacks who are so mentally tough that even when
they lose, you know that things are still gonna be
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fine with them. Cam. It seems to me like has
always been a player that when things start rolling for him,
he can get that role going. We saw it with
Carolina the year they went seventeen and one, when he
was the n L m v P and the n
L m v P, the m v P of the NFC.
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Uh and then he got into the Super Bowl. Is
in an m v P of the entire NFL. But
the best quarterback in the entire NFL, and then he
was a seven point favorite. Everybody expected that he was
gonna be coordinated. Basically, Denver Broncos took it to him
and he never really ever has gotten back. But I
watched him playing yesterday and I thought to myself, Oh,
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Bill Belichick might have gotten one of the greatest steals
of all time. He replaced one m v P in
Tom Brady with another m v P and look, Cam
only through the ball nineteen times. He completed fifteen of them,
but he ran the ball fifteen times. And he is
such an unbelievable talent in the backfield that when he's healthy,
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he's hard to stop. He had two rushing touchdowns. Suddenly,
Bill Belichick has got a wrink he didn't have for
twenty years with Tom Brady and Boom. He is bringing
in an unbelievable talent and the stat that I saw,
I mean, there's so much to get to him. Gonna
talk about more about the Brady Belichick the dynamic to
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start off our three. But dub you were an Auburn fan.
You've seen Cam Newton and how dominant he can be.
Did you not get the feeling watching the Patriots play
against the Dolphins. Oh, this is potentially gonna be a
heck of a season for Cam Newton, and man, it
feels like Belichick got another steel. Absolutely personally, I thought
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this was the story of the day yesterday on the
first NFL Sunday back from uh Corona and all that.
Because you mentioned fifteen Russia attempts. That's the first time
Cam Newton's had fifteen plus rush attempts since October of
two thousand fourteen. That's a long time. Because this is
the healthiest he's ever been. He's Belichick basically has him
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on a one year rental. So how do you treat
a rental? I mean, he's gonna play Cam Newton the
way that Cam Newton should be played because he's not
necessarily worried about the future of exactly so. And frankly,
I don't think Cam can be worried about five years
from now because he has to go balls to the
wall in this one year and prove that somebody needs
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to sign him to a four or three or five
year extension, right like, this is his opportunity to demonstrate
I still got enough juice to be a starter in
this league. And if you can't win with Belichick, You're
probably not gonna be able to win with anybody. But
this is potentially a seventy five or a hundred million
dollar season for cam Right. And that's why I've been
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saying he's the number one story of this NFL season
because his ceiling could be so high and his floor
could be so low, and the same thing can be
true with the Patriots. Absolutely, And the one thing the
Belichick and the Patriots have always excelled at his situational football,
the third and shorts, the fourth and shorts. They got
the biggest weapon in the NFL as far as I'm
concerned for those exact situations. So I think the Patriots
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are gonna be very, very dangerous. Tell me if you've
heard that one before. Just when you think that we
don't have to worry about this team anymore, they go
and they get an unbelievable weapon. When we come back,
I'm gonna talk more about Brady Belichick, but so many
different stories to get into. We're gonna talk about Joe
Burrow making his debut, Gardner Minshew, what in the world
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happened with the Jags taken down the Colts, the Cardinals
and Kyler Murray, the Bears come back, what in the
world DeAndre Swift, the Ravens with Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield
looked bad again, and the Redskins, who looked like the
worst team on the planet, came surging back against Carson
Wentz and the Eagles. All of those things to discuss
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