September 15, 2020 • 36 mins
Clay Travis celebrates the new mixer set-up in his home studio, and dives into the clock management nightmare that is Vic Fangio. Clay has some stats on just how troubling Stephen Gostkowsi's night was for the Titans and focuses in on the amazing night that Ben Roethlisberger had! Plus, Petros of AM 570 LA Sports is in the house for his usual Tuesday shenanigans.
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I'll kick the coverage with Clay Travis Live every weekday
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to Fox Sports Radio. Let me just say, this audio
guy has got to be an absolute heaven right now
because we got brand new mixers and I don't know
how any technology works on the home studio set up,
but I can tell that I sound insanely crisp just
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in my headset right now compared to some of the
issues that we had before over the last couple of
weeks with audio so fingers crossed, there's always something technologically
a little bit awry in this show. I don't want
to jinx as dub, but it's been months since we
had any sort of phone related issues. Would you agree
with that? I do agree with that. I think it
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has everything to do with Game of Thrones. I think
the phone issues directly correlated with Game of Thrones seasons
and episodes. So now that Thrones is over, the phones
are over. It is kind of wild. And I know
you've had some computer issues in your studio, but in
general everything seems to be working pretty well. And then
my audio got all screwed up over the last couple
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of weeks. We think we have got it all fixed.
And I'm not a technology expert, but you know who's
not a technology expert either, Vic Fangio, because if he were,
he would have been like, Hey, I've got these things
called timeouts, maybe i should use them down the stretch
because I've got a kicker who can nearly make a
sixty yard field goal out in Mount Mile High Stadium
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in Denver, and I want to give him an opportunity
to come back. I want to hold the Titans to
a field goal, and then I want to have a
minute or so, which is what he could have had
had left if he had just actually used his time outs.
Like any sort of same video game player would. I
talked about this an hour one. I let my kids
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stay up, my two oldest boys. In fact, my nine
year old literally turned ten watching this game. He turned
ten years old. My fourth grader had his birthday. Uh,
the clock changes in the middle of the game, late
in the third fourth quarter, whatever it was when it
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went after midnight Central time, and so I'm like, hey, Bud,
maybe the Titans will give you a little bit of
an early birthday present. They'll find a way to win
this one. And then they kept missing extra points and
they kept missing field goals, and I thought to myself, Oh,
there's no way it's gonna happen. But I'm watching with
my twelve year old and now with my ten year old,
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and so both of those guys, seventh grader, fourth grader,
we're all like, we're It's one of the fun things
about being a dad or a mom is when your
kids get old enough to have legitimate sports conversations with
you and you can talk strategy with them. And so
we're sitting there and these kids play Madden like crazy, right,
so they're always aware of the clock and game management
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and everything else. And I would argue, and I've been
making this argument for a while now, that younger generations
are gonna be so much better on the sidelines at
strategy and everything involved in coaching because they've been training
themselves since they were like six, seven, eight years old
on Madden, and they all know how to manage a
clock better on Madden than your average sixty five year
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old head coach does. And I'm sitting there watching the
clock running. And I'm a Titans fan, right, I've got
season tickets. I hope they're gonna open back up the
stadium sometime soon. And so I'm sitting there watching, thinking, Okay, well,
surely vic Fangio is gonna take a time out of here.
And then you could see Mike Vrabel over on the
other sideline, the Titans head coach, and it was like
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Vrabel suddenly realized, wait a minute, he's not taking his
time outs. Let me go ahead and take my first
time out, so we'll run this thing all the way down.
Will continue to run the football, and Vrabel took a
shot in the end zone when he could have run
the ball again and made the Broncos take a time out.
If he got the first down, he could have run
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it all the way down, the Broncos would have never
gotten the ball back. So Vic Fangio even getting three
plays at the end of the game was very fortunate,
and it wasn't a function of his game management skills
at all. So I don't know why he didn't take
time outs there with like a minute to go on
that final drive once the Titans got into field goal range,
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it was like he was saying to himself, well, there's
no way that Stephen Gotskowski is gonna be able to
make a field goal at all. And that seems like
a pretty big risk to sit back and allow somebody
who's kicked as many field goals in NFL games as
Stephen Gotskowski to kick a twenty five yard or to
try to win the game. Now, Gotskowski's performance was literally
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without precedent uh in the last fifty years in the NFL.
They think about this for a minute. This is the
first time in his career that Stephen Doskowski has missed
three field goals in the same game. And that is
a pretty unbelievable stat. Even crazier, Stephen Gostkowski with the
Patriots had six seasons where he missed three or fewer
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field goals on the entire year. Think about how wild
that is. And he missed three last night in addition
to the actual missed extra point, which gave the Broncos
a chance to potentially win it by a score of
fourteen to thirteen. Couple of other crazy stats about Gotskowski.
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He's the first kicker to miss four kicks that's field
goals or extra points in his first game aim with
a team since Dennis Party did it for the Chargers
back in nineteen So it has literally been over fifty
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years since any new kicker in the NFL has actually
managed to miss those I sometimes enjoy looking at the
next Gen stats. They put up these Titans kicker Stephen
Gostkowski next Gen stats on the forty seven yard field goal.
They said, that's a seventy five point eight percent make
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probability rate in the NFL, forty four yard field goal
seventy eight point three percent, forty two yard field goal
eighty one point eight percent. The chances of a Gostkowski
missing all three field goals according to the field goal
probability model at next Gen Stats, one in a hundred,
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it in five, So there's less than a one percent
chance that he was going to miss all three of
those field goals, And if you add in the extra
point miss, I would bet it was something like one
in two hundred or one in two hundred and fifty
that he would miss four kicks of those distance and
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only make one extra point. But Gotskowski came back made
the kick in order to actually win the game. And yes,
I may have tweeted that they don't need to allow
him onto the team plane and that he should have
to figure out his own way back to Nashville. They're
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probably landing around the time that my radio show was
was was coming on in the first hour of this program,
so they probably I think, I think they probably would
have landed back in Nashville after flying back from Denver
sometime tim around that five am hour, after that uh
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win and getting out of Mile High Stadium and everything
else associated with it. So everything coming out of that
game was just a total mess. But if I'm a
Bronco fan waking up this morning, what I am wondering
is why in the world did Vic Fangio do such
a poor job of actually managing all of his time outs? Now,
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that was one of the Monday night football games. The
other one was Ben Roethlisberger's short story, right, everybody who
was watching that game, and I talked about this earlier
an hour one, But my goodness, how good were Kirk
herb Street and Chris Fowler in calling that NFL game.
They're great calling college football games, but they've been doing
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it for years and years they were a lot better.
Fowler and Herb Street were calling the Steelers and the
uh and the Giants game. Then the crew was as
the new Monday Night Football crew calling the Titans and
the Bronco game. Now, no shot against Brian Greasy, Lewis
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Riddick or Steve Levy. They're a new trio. They're in
a tough spot calling a game in an empty stadium.
But I gotta tell you, I thought that it was
amazing how good Herb Street and Fowler did, never having
called an NFL game before. In fact, I think they
should be calling every Monday Night football game for ESPN.
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Now that would require them to be pulled out of
college football. But I don't want to put it this
on Herb Street because I know he works a lot
with Game Day and everything else in the fall. But
I feel like they could call a game on Saturday
and still call the game on Monday Night football too.
That's a lot on your plate. But when you look
at Chris Fowler calling all those tennis matches in the
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US Open this week, and then he suddenly flips and
he's now calling a Monday Night football game, and he's
doing it without any practice at all. To me, that
was a pretty impressive performance by those guys in terms
of the way they handled everything relating to uh that performance.
So they were great the number one story, and I
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thought Ben Roethlisberger's interview after the game was pretty fantastic.
To me, The number one story beyond the shadow of
a doubt is Ben Roethlisberger and how healthy is he
gonna be, how well is he gonna play? How good
is that elbow? And to me, it seemed like while
he had three touchdown passes, and certainly guys like Juje
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Juju Smith Schuster seemed like they were having a lot
more fun playing in this game than they did all
last season with Mason Rudolph and with Duck Hodges when
they were unable to do very much on the offensive
side of the ball. It felt to me like Ben
Roethlisberger was still unwilling to totally uncork his fastball. Didn't
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feel to me like he really wanted to let it loose.
And maybe that's something that's gonna come as the season
progresses and he gets more comfortable with his ability and
his recovery. But it seemed to me like he was
a pitcher who was still kind of working around on
his control and trying to place the ball a little
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bit more than he was just gonna drop back and
let a rip. And so we'll see exactly what ends
up happening there going forward. But if I'm a Steeler fan,
I have to be pretty optimistic. And you know what,
if I'm a Giants fan, I go back and I
watched that game. There were two bad throws that Daniel
Jones made throughout that entire game. If he doesn't actually
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do that, then this game could have still gone either direction.
And that's even though the Steeler defense was able to
completely bottle up Sae Kwon Barkley and the Steeler defense,
I think it was smart. They said, look, we're not
gonna lose to se Kwon. We're gonna make Daniel Jones
beat us. And Daniel Jones is getting better. I think
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there's a reason for optimism that he can be a
high level NFL quarterback, but he's not there yet where
he can take over a game and beat you single handedly.
I think it might happen for him this year at
some point in time, but he's not quite there yet.
And so to me, that is uh, that is a
story worth following the NFC East. The Cowboys didn't look great.
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The Eagles look atrocious. We really don't think the the
Washington football team is gonna be very good. If I'm
a Giants fan, I look around and say, look, this
division may well be one at eight and eight or
nine and seven if we continue to get better, can
we put ourselves in position in November and December to
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be playing some consequential games as a part of the
larger playoff picture. I think the answer is yes, I
think you can, and so that's what I would kind
of hang my hat on if I were a fan
of those teams that lost. The Broncos, look, Drew Lock
had some opportunities to make some plays. Jerry Judy had
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two really big drops. We talked about the Titans misques
and missing the four field goals, uh sorry, the three
field goals they made one and missing the extra point,
missing the four kicks over all, the leaf ten points
on the field. The Broncos got stopped at the one
yard line on what I thought was a very questionable,
uh little rollout Drew Lock and try to have him throw, uh,
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the the little pass back inside the shovel pass coming
back in the opposite direction. I didn't like that play
call when you're that close to the goal line already,
and also the Jerry Judy drops the decisions by Vic
Fangio down the stretch. While I think the Titans would
have been to blame there if they had lost the game,
they would have kind of choked it away with their
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kicking performance, They're still were a lot of plays left
on the field by the Broncos where if you're watching them, look,
Drew Lock showed a lot of reasons for optimism. He
also went deep missed a guy wait wide open in
the end zone with about three minutes to play, which
could have potentially put the game out of reach. I
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like the killer instinct to go for the big play there,
and I like Drew Lock in general. I watched him
play a lot in Missouri. I think he has a
lot of potential. They showed that the Denver Bronco carousel
it's a little bit phallic lee uncomfortable. Did you know
the way they do? You know, it's the way they
were they were showing that, um, the way they were
writing the carousels a little bit uncomfortable. If you go back,
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I might have to tweet that video out before all
of said and done. But ultimately, to me, there's a
lot of reasons to be optimistic about young quarterbacks in
Denver and in New York based on what we saw.
This is outkicked the coverage with Clay Travis, the man
them at the Legend, Petros Papa dacas at the old
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p on Twitter. You can find him on a M
five seven l A Sports. By the way, I gotta
say this. We talked about this last time. The Dodgers
are back in the homestand I think right or at
least they were. I was watching them on the last
couple of nights, and they have refused to even let
us know where all of the cardboard cutouts that I
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paid a thousand dollars for for are in their stadium.
They initially said, oh, we're gonna put them in a
prominent location where you'll be able to see him. We
had a lot of people who listen to the show
and watch Dodger games. Nobody has sold has seen me,
Danny g or Roberto. Have people seen your I know
they've seen yours. Right, Yes, I have been located. I
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knew exactly where it was. The Dodgers are the ones
that requested us and put us up. So I'm not
trying to one up you or Danny G. I don't
have a I don't think you're upping us. I think
you're dunking on us because the Dodgers requested for you
to be involved in this. I pay my own money
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for the three of us to be involved, and they
just won't even respond to Danny G when he asked
where our pictures are. We're not even sure that they exist.
I think they might have just put us in the bathroom. Yeah.
I am in the front row, about one person down
from my radio partner, Bob Yucker style in the front row,
and I had to send three or four different pictures
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because the ones I was sending they didn't like they
had logos of things on them and and different stuff
like that. I had to turn my hat around backwards
and all kinds of different stuff. But yeah, your obsession
with your cutout at Dodger Stadium and locating it where
there are a great deal of cutouts, I mean a
lot of cutting. I just think if we if we
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gave them a thousand dollars, and and by we, I
mean I wrote a check from my personal funds for
a thousand dollars to the to the Dodgers after they
told Danny G that they were going to put the
three of us in a place where you would be visible.
It's at least reasonable for someone at the Dodgers to
actually respond to Danny G's emails and let us know
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where we actually are, given the fact that they've already
broken the promise that we're going to be visible, because
we've got a big listening audience and a lot of
people who watch Dodger games, and they've been in no
way capable of actually seeing us well. I, as a
matter of fact, no people at the Dodgers. They own
of AM five seventy l A sports which you've got
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correct earlier. And I want to give you a tip
of the cap. Much obliged on that clay, but I
will I will effort some kind of explanation. Will Broker
you were broker a detent? Yes, without distrospecting Danny G,
who's a proud Angelino, I might have to intervene here
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and do some kind of arbitration and locate your cutouts.
I have a man at Dodger Stadium who can go
get photos of those things. So these things could be
could be handled, but with respect, that would be uh,
that would be much appreciated, respectfully. Indeed, speaking of respectfully,
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Later tonight the Clippers play Game seven against the Denver Nuggets. Now,
I think the fact that this series is even going
on has escaped a lot of people's recognition because football
came back and Monday Night Football happened, and there was
such a glut of excess that people were obsessed with
being able to enjoy that they didn't even maybe know
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that Game seven is going to happen the Clippers. If
they lose this game, what is the impact in l
A for Clippers who just seemed always you would know
this better than me, but they seem to always get
close and then fail. Well, first of all, the Clippers
have one of the best owners in sports, yes, in
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Steve Balmer, and he's an owner of millions and billions
of dollars towards the Clippers being great. He's going to
build a new stadium in Inglewood. But the only thing
I can think is that somebody went to Egypt, probably
Donald Sterling, and desecrated some kind of money too, because
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it is incredible. Uh, way back when I first started
in sports radio. They had Mike Dunlevy at Elton Brand's
team and Daniel Ewing remember him, I think he was
from Duke. A big mistake on an inbound play and
they didn't make it to the conference finals. And then
there was the Doc Rivers epic meltdown with the Houston
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Rockets at Staples Center maybe six or seven years ago,
where they didn't make it. They just can't make it
to the conference finals. And people were writing articles a
week ago saying, you know, when they were up three one,
that the Clippers are going to break the curse. They
don't even care. They got Kauai. It's over. And then literally,
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like watching a movie, it's like the Mummy shows up
and he points his crooked finger and yells, and it's amazing. Uh,
I want to see the Clippers versus Lakers. So we
have something else to talk about. Like you said, there's
no USC or u c l a football, you have
other flip breaking out of a fire hose right now.
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I think that the glut was a great way to
describe it that you just said. But they can't deny
they feel cursed. I feel like Lawn Cheney is going
to show up and slap somebody's head off. It's amazing.
So if the Clippers lose, is there you mentioned they
got Steve Bomber, They've got a new arena in Inglewood
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that they want to build. Does Doc Rivers come in
for any criticism here? Based on the talent that they have,
which I think everybody out there listening would acknowledge is
more substantial than the Nuggets. It's one thing if you
lose to the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals and
then the Lakers go on and win the NBA title,
you can at least think our core is younger than
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their core. Lebron's obviously going to be thirty six. I
think it is next year, and you can think with
this new arena, there's lots of reasons for optimism. But
would Doc Rivers come in for any criticism if after
going up three one against an inferior team they didn't
find a way to close it out? Well, I mean,
how do you criticize somebody who's cursed? Yeah, it's the
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Mummy's curse. What can you do about the curse? I mean,
I look as far as different moves in an NBA
game and what he could have done or didn't do.
You know, you can ask your boy Mannic about that,
who loves Doc Rivers. But I like Doc Rivers too.
He's a really magnetic personality and you only have to
be in the room with him for about two minutes
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and he wins you over in a second and you
just feel like everything's gonna be okay. I mean, he's
really one of those guys. He's very bad ametic and
that's why he's had the success he's had. But there's
some people that point out that he hasn't won an
NBA championship without Tom Thibodeau coordinating his NBA defense like
he did with the Celtics, and they beat the Lakers
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back in OH nine. I think maybe no, no, oh six.
Whatever the point is, it's been a while, and uh,
I mean, Bell all come under criticism, Kawhi, Leonard, Paul George,
Doc Rivers, Montrez Harrold, who had a terrible Game six,
who was the NBA's reigning six man, Lou Williams. I mean,
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there's moments where they look like one of the greatest
teams in NBA history, according to Jeff Van Gundi, in
the defense they're playing, and then there's other moments where
it just so easily slips away. It feels like the
Mummy's curse. So when you, I mean, it is kind
of fascinating to think about when you you just okay.
So let's pivot off of the expectation was it was
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a Lakers clips. Lakers have done their part. We'll see
what the Clippers do it on Tuesday. What does it
feel like as a big time college football fan in
l A. To be looking around at all the college
football games that are being played. The SEC comes back
next week. It seems like the Big Ten with all
their drama, gonna be back I think on October, and
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the Pact twelve is now going to be left. It
appears on an island among the Power five conferences not playing.
What does that feel like? You know, in the city
of Los Angeles, now you have the Chargers and you
have the Rams, and we'll get to their game here
in a little bit. But as a big college football fan,
and I know there are a lot of big college
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football fans in l A, does it feel strange to
watch everybody else like as if they're living a different
lifestyle than you are in the l A area. God
I'm a real Massochist, aren't I for coming on here? Yes.
First of all, like I don't think of myself as
a college football fan, although I guess this year I am.
In a lot of ways. I think of myself as
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a college football analyst. I mean I've called I've called
games nationally since two thousand four. So I answer your
question honestly, it was excruciating for me watching the whole
thing happened without me, and I try not to have,
you know, I try to check my ego and realized that,
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you know, when I fall off a cliff or whatever,
the world's going to keep on turning. Uh, no problem.
But it was a bit of an identity crisis weekend
for me. Uh. You know, last weekend I'd never been uh,
I've never been in town on Labor Day. Uh. This weekend,
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you know, watching a lot of my colleagues, you know,
including my cousin who's in a truck in Kansas with
Tim Brando and Spencer Tillman. Watching all that and just
kind of seeing it unfold was was hard. It was interesting,
I mean because I used to do uh some Conference
USA games when Fox Sports one started, you remember, and
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to my my suit for one of them. Yeah, that
was a couple of Yeah, that was a couple of
years into it down in PoCA, but uh, rough day.
But I gotta say, the teams that are used to
playing when nobody in the stands, you know, they came
out and punched people in the neck, you know, because
I mean you saw the pros. I mean, the pros
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are pros, and they need to go out there and
protect their neck or somebody's gonna die. And when they're
told to play, they just go play. But with the
college kids, it was really a scrimmagey feel, you could
tell with those Big twelve teams, and they struggled, you know, Kansas,
and I was stayed in Kansas State. Now, of course
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one of them will turn around and beat Oklahoma in
November and ruined the Big twelve season somehow. Yeah, that's
how it always works out. But I found that really interesting.
You know. It does show a big difference between college
and pro football for where it is really really hard
to create your own energy as a college football team.
It takes a great deal of discipline. And we saw
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a few teams that really should have dominated struggle and
it was really interesting and I'm proud of those Sun
Belt teams. I think. I think it's awesome their will
for football and the passioned plant, even though they come
from small places and generally very small schools with different resources.
I was endlessly impressed with with the sun Belt and
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the way they showed up. It was awesome. We're talking
to Petro's papadegas at the Old be on Twitter A
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NFL and the way it all shook out. I mean,
it was amazing to see Sophi Stadium in all of
its resplendent glory without any fans present there at all.
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Have you walked through the stadium at all to see it?
I mean, it looked amazing on Tell Vision even without
fans there. Uh, it certainly looks like a palace. Yeah.
I was supposed to be there last night to do
our TV show, but we ended up just doing it
in studio anyway, because of access would have been so limited.
I have not been over there. I've I've declined most invitations.
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As you know, I don't like going anywhere unless I'm
paid to go. Uh and uh, you know, I think
it's beautiful. I mean, look, I like old things. So
my favorite stadiums are the memorial stadiums from World War
One in Nebraska, cal the Coliseum here Illinois. You know,
the World War One memorial stadiums with the Greek theme
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are my favorite stadiums on Earth. Now. Of course they're
antiquated and really like sewers, but I like them. Uh
that being said, I did a Cotton Bowl for the
first time, and then a Big twelve championship in the
Jerry Jones Dome, and it is jaw dropping, right like,
even for a guy that hates modern and stuff. I
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mean I I was staring up at that monitor and
somebody ran a kick returned right up my ass on
the sideline. You know, it was it was. It's it's
an unbelievable experience, and this is supposed to be better,
which is hard to imagine because the place in Dallas
is so impressive. By all accounts, it's very special, but
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of course no one is allowed to go, so it's
a really awkward cell. You know. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
I I think there's no doubt at all as you
as you start to look through what did you think
about the past interference calls? That one effectively the offensive
past interference calls that interestingly won both the Chargers and
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the Rams. There they're openers. Do you think both should
have been called? The shove on A J. Green that
negated the Bengals touchdown and the ledge shove from Michael
Gallup that potentially created a situation that allowed the Rams
to escape with a win over the cow Boys. Yeah,
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saw both live. I'm always a guy. I mean it's
a lot like a modern NBA now. I mean, these
guys hands on the perimeter are so fast and they're
so good at selling this or that with their bodies
that I am always a fan of leaving it in
the pocket. The A. J. Green versus Hayward, I mean,
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those are two great players. I mean, Hayward is one
of the best cover corners in the NFL. And I
would have just liked to have seen Joe Burrow be
able to make that play. And I mean it was
good physical play by both guys, I thought, and they
both you know, he was grabbing and A J. Pushed
off the same thing with the other one. Uh, one
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guy has had ahold of him and the other guy
pushed off, and then Ramsey kind of jerked his body
back after the fact, but of course we saw it
all in slow motion. I thought both flags should have
been left in the pocket. But I'm not going to
sit here and go on the air and have a
connection about it, right. Uh, well, that makes you a rarity,
and certainly a rarity Herrera on. You know, put Pereira
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on or Blandino and let him explain it and move
on with your lives. I mean, I I remember I
was a game that I scored two different touchdowns that
were called back. Uh, and the Pact twelve sent us
a letter on Wednesday saying, hey, sorry about that. Those
were the wrong calls. It's like, oh, okay, well we lost.
You know, you know, you have to just pick up
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and move on in those situations, and that's what football.
I think that's why the country in many ways is
so attracted to the sport because it's not perfect, it's
pretty ugly. It's about overcoming adversity, and uh, that's what
you have to do, There's no doubt. And also the
Rams got absolutely an awful call against them when you
couldn't have a more ridiculous hands to the helmet hit
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than Jared Goff got on his interception and that got missed,
so some people would say, including me, that those kind
of canceled out. Petro's papadegis. We will talk to you
next week and we will see whether or not. By then,
we are officially underway with the Battle of Los Angeles
between the Lakers and the Clippers. Thanks my man. I'm
just hoping for clear skies. I mean it's like a
blade runner here. Yeah, I know, I've heard it's crazy
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out there. Uh, good luck. This is outkicked the coverage
with plates traps. We're talking a little bit about Vic
Fangio earlier and his decision to keep the two timeouts.
Joel clad will be with us on Friday. Lead college
football announcer said, you haven't heard of the t O
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black market straight cash for unused time outs. Very smart
by him, obviously. That is sarcasm from from Joel clatt
Uh and Todd Ferman if you're a fan of the
office said it's a Michael Scott budget surplus situation. Speaking
of a budget surplus situation, there's about to be a
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lot of people in the Clippers organization saying, wait a minute,
why do we have this budget, this massive surplus budget
that we are spending on coaches if we're gonna give
up a three one series lead to an inferior team
and we're gonna lose tonight. With Game seven going on
in the bubble down in l A, with the chance
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being the bubble obviously down in Orlando, with the chance
being though to set up the Battle of O l
A in Florida, a lot of people tuned out, and
I'll be honest, I was one of them. When the
Clippers went up three one, even though the Nuggets had
come back from a three one series deficit already, I
thought this series was over. I thought that the Clippers
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were gonna go ahead and roll in. Honestly, I wasn't
even paying that much attention because all the college football
in the NFL games started, and then I kind of
just saw the score. I checked the score a couple
of times, and the Clippers were up fifteen plus twice
in the second half, and I thought it was all
over complete and then boom it falls on us, and uh,
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the entire Uh there's a big amount of pressure I
would think on Doc Rivers, on Paul George in particular,
who's never had a tremendous amount of playoffs success. If
Kauai loses, people will say, well, this guy's already won
two championships with two different teams. I don't think a
lot of people are gonna focus on him, but a
lot would go on Paul George's shoulders, a lot would
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go on Doc rivers shoulders. It's one thing if you
lose to the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals. We
expected that matchup literally the moment that Kauai and Paul
George decided to both go to the Clippers. But if
that doesn't make sense, Uh, if that doesn't end up happening,
that's a tough way for the Clippers to go out.
They've never made the Western Conference Finals before. Seven and
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a half seemed steep to me. I'm gonna have to
decide later today on Fox bet Live what my choice
is gonna be. I'm gonna bet on this game. But
early reads seven and a half seems really really steep
to me. Uh, speaking by the way of the City
of Los Angeles, and I think we're gonna talk about
this some tomorrow and I'll continue to to beat this drum.
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Jason Whitlock and I had a conversation off air after
after all the process has been going on with the UH,
with the shootings that occurred with the two police officers
and in l A, the they were ambushed. They had
done absolutely nothing wrong, and so we decided that the
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l A County Sheriff came out and said, we'd like
to get help from Lebron James. We'd like for him
to help donate money to be able to to help
catch the perpetrator here. And I've done this before with
a situation that happened in Nashville where there was a
fugitive and I was particularly struck by it and I
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wanted that fugitive to be caught. In Nashville is accused
of stabbing to death UH two different young kids who
had done nothing wrong at a Nashville bar, and this
situation watching that video for those police officers who had
done nothing wrong too. We are donating ten thousand dollars
on top of the money that has already been donated
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for anyone who can allow that shooter to be brought
to justice. So we have a big audience in l A.
A lot of people are beginning their morning with us listening.
We have a lot of police officers who listened to
this show Jason Whitlock and myself with our company OutKick,
we are adding ten thousand dollars if that perpetrator can
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be captured, if he can be brought to justice that
video that was out there, if you know who did
that and you can help to allow that man to
be captured, we are gonna donate ten thousand dollars to
whoever helps to make that happen. So we're gonna be
trying to do our small part without Kick, We're having
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a lot of success with our media business. We're trying
to make the world a little bit better. We can't
make the world better in every single respect. We can't
solve every problem, but we have a lot of l
A Police officers who are big fans of this show,
who listen every morning on a M five s l
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ambushed those officers to justice. If you can help out,
we want to help you out as well. Thank you
for listening. Congrats to everybody the sixteen teams that one
will continue to break down the NFL college football as well.
It's a great time a year. Hope all of you
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to Fox Sports Radio. Let me just say, this audio
guy has got to be an absolute heaven right now
because we got brand new mixers and I don't know
how any technology works on the home studio set up,
but I can tell that I sound insanely crisp just
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in my headset right now compared to some of the
issues that we had before over the last couple of
weeks with audio so fingers crossed, there's always something technologically
a little bit awry in this show. I don't want
to jinx as dub, but it's been months since we
had any sort of phone related issues. Would you agree
with that? I do agree with that. I think it
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has everything to do with Game of Thrones. I think
the phone issues directly correlated with Game of Thrones seasons
and episodes. So now that Thrones is over, the phones
are over. It is kind of wild. And I know
you've had some computer issues in your studio, but in
general everything seems to be working pretty well. And then
my audio got all screwed up over the last couple
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of weeks. We think we have got it all fixed.
And I'm not a technology expert, but you know who's
not a technology expert either, Vic Fangio, because if he were,
he would have been like, Hey, I've got these things
called timeouts, maybe i should use them down the stretch
because I've got a kicker who can nearly make a
sixty yard field goal out in Mount Mile High Stadium
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in Denver, and I want to give him an opportunity
to come back. I want to hold the Titans to
a field goal, and then I want to have a
minute or so, which is what he could have had
had left if he had just actually used his time outs.
Like any sort of same video game player would. I
talked about this an hour one. I let my kids
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stay up, my two oldest boys. In fact, my nine
year old literally turned ten watching this game. He turned
ten years old. My fourth grader had his birthday. Uh,
the clock changes in the middle of the game, late
in the third fourth quarter, whatever it was when it
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went after midnight Central time, and so I'm like, hey, Bud,
maybe the Titans will give you a little bit of
an early birthday present. They'll find a way to win
this one. And then they kept missing extra points and
they kept missing field goals, and I thought to myself, Oh,
there's no way it's gonna happen. But I'm watching with
my twelve year old and now with my ten year old,
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and so both of those guys, seventh grader, fourth grader,
we're all like, we're It's one of the fun things
about being a dad or a mom is when your
kids get old enough to have legitimate sports conversations with
you and you can talk strategy with them. And so
we're sitting there and these kids play Madden like crazy, right,
so they're always aware of the clock and game management
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and everything else. And I would argue, and I've been
making this argument for a while now, that younger generations
are gonna be so much better on the sidelines at
strategy and everything involved in coaching because they've been training
themselves since they were like six, seven, eight years old
on Madden, and they all know how to manage a
clock better on Madden than your average sixty five year
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old head coach does. And I'm sitting there watching the
clock running. And I'm a Titans fan, right, I've got
season tickets. I hope they're gonna open back up the
stadium sometime soon. And so I'm sitting there watching, thinking, Okay, well,
surely vic Fangio is gonna take a time out of here.
And then you could see Mike Vrabel over on the
other sideline, the Titans head coach, and it was like
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Vrabel suddenly realized, wait a minute, he's not taking his
time outs. Let me go ahead and take my first
time out, so we'll run this thing all the way down.
Will continue to run the football, and Vrabel took a
shot in the end zone when he could have run
the ball again and made the Broncos take a time out.
If he got the first down, he could have run
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it all the way down, the Broncos would have never
gotten the ball back. So Vic Fangio even getting three
plays at the end of the game was very fortunate,
and it wasn't a function of his game management skills
at all. So I don't know why he didn't take
time outs there with like a minute to go on
that final drive once the Titans got into field goal range,
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it was like he was saying to himself, well, there's
no way that Stephen Gotskowski is gonna be able to
make a field goal at all. And that seems like
a pretty big risk to sit back and allow somebody
who's kicked as many field goals in NFL games as
Stephen Gotskowski to kick a twenty five yard or to
try to win the game. Now, Gotskowski's performance was literally
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without precedent uh in the last fifty years in the NFL.
They think about this for a minute. This is the
first time in his career that Stephen Doskowski has missed
three field goals in the same game. And that is
a pretty unbelievable stat. Even crazier, Stephen Gostkowski with the
Patriots had six seasons where he missed three or fewer
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field goals on the entire year. Think about how wild
that is. And he missed three last night in addition
to the actual missed extra point, which gave the Broncos
a chance to potentially win it by a score of
fourteen to thirteen. Couple of other crazy stats about Gotskowski.
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He's the first kicker to miss four kicks that's field
goals or extra points in his first game aim with
a team since Dennis Party did it for the Chargers
back in nineteen So it has literally been over fifty
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years since any new kicker in the NFL has actually
managed to miss those I sometimes enjoy looking at the
next Gen stats. They put up these Titans kicker Stephen
Gostkowski next Gen stats on the forty seven yard field goal.
They said, that's a seventy five point eight percent make
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probability rate in the NFL, forty four yard field goal
seventy eight point three percent, forty two yard field goal
eighty one point eight percent. The chances of a Gostkowski
missing all three field goals according to the field goal
probability model at next Gen Stats, one in a hundred,
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it in five, So there's less than a one percent
chance that he was going to miss all three of
those field goals, And if you add in the extra
point miss, I would bet it was something like one
in two hundred or one in two hundred and fifty
that he would miss four kicks of those distance and
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only make one extra point. But Gotskowski came back made
the kick in order to actually win the game. And yes,
I may have tweeted that they don't need to allow
him onto the team plane and that he should have
to figure out his own way back to Nashville. They're
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probably landing around the time that my radio show was
was was coming on in the first hour of this program,
so they probably I think, I think they probably would
have landed back in Nashville after flying back from Denver
sometime tim around that five am hour, after that uh
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win and getting out of Mile High Stadium and everything
else associated with it. So everything coming out of that
game was just a total mess. But if I'm a
Bronco fan waking up this morning, what I am wondering
is why in the world did Vic Fangio do such
a poor job of actually managing all of his time outs? Now,
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that was one of the Monday night football games. The
other one was Ben Roethlisberger's short story, right, everybody who
was watching that game, and I talked about this earlier
an hour one, But my goodness, how good were Kirk
herb Street and Chris Fowler in calling that NFL game.
They're great calling college football games, but they've been doing
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it for years and years they were a lot better.
Fowler and Herb Street were calling the Steelers and the
uh and the Giants game. Then the crew was as
the new Monday Night Football crew calling the Titans and
the Bronco game. Now, no shot against Brian Greasy, Lewis
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Riddick or Steve Levy. They're a new trio. They're in
a tough spot calling a game in an empty stadium.
But I gotta tell you, I thought that it was
amazing how good Herb Street and Fowler did, never having
called an NFL game before. In fact, I think they
should be calling every Monday Night football game for ESPN.
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Now that would require them to be pulled out of
college football. But I don't want to put it this
on Herb Street because I know he works a lot
with Game Day and everything else in the fall. But
I feel like they could call a game on Saturday
and still call the game on Monday Night football too.
That's a lot on your plate. But when you look
at Chris Fowler calling all those tennis matches in the
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US Open this week, and then he suddenly flips and
he's now calling a Monday Night football game, and he's
doing it without any practice at all. To me, that
was a pretty impressive performance by those guys in terms
of the way they handled everything relating to uh that performance.
So they were great the number one story, and I
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thought Ben Roethlisberger's interview after the game was pretty fantastic.
To me, The number one story beyond the shadow of
a doubt is Ben Roethlisberger and how healthy is he
gonna be, how well is he gonna play? How good
is that elbow? And to me, it seemed like while
he had three touchdown passes, and certainly guys like Juje
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Juju Smith Schuster seemed like they were having a lot
more fun playing in this game than they did all
last season with Mason Rudolph and with Duck Hodges when
they were unable to do very much on the offensive
side of the ball. It felt to me like Ben
Roethlisberger was still unwilling to totally uncork his fastball. Didn't
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feel to me like he really wanted to let it loose.
And maybe that's something that's gonna come as the season
progresses and he gets more comfortable with his ability and
his recovery. But it seemed to me like he was
a pitcher who was still kind of working around on
his control and trying to place the ball a little
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bit more than he was just gonna drop back and
let a rip. And so we'll see exactly what ends
up happening there going forward. But if I'm a Steeler fan,
I have to be pretty optimistic. And you know what,
if I'm a Giants fan, I go back and I
watched that game. There were two bad throws that Daniel
Jones made throughout that entire game. If he doesn't actually
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do that, then this game could have still gone either direction.
And that's even though the Steeler defense was able to
completely bottle up Sae Kwon Barkley and the Steeler defense,
I think it was smart. They said, look, we're not
gonna lose to se Kwon. We're gonna make Daniel Jones
beat us. And Daniel Jones is getting better. I think
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there's a reason for optimism that he can be a
high level NFL quarterback, but he's not there yet where
he can take over a game and beat you single handedly.
I think it might happen for him this year at
some point in time, but he's not quite there yet.
And so to me, that is uh, that is a
story worth following the NFC East. The Cowboys didn't look great.
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The Eagles look atrocious. We really don't think the the
Washington football team is gonna be very good. If I'm
a Giants fan, I look around and say, look, this
division may well be one at eight and eight or
nine and seven if we continue to get better, can
we put ourselves in position in November and December to
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be playing some consequential games as a part of the
larger playoff picture. I think the answer is yes, I
think you can, and so that's what I would kind
of hang my hat on if I were a fan
of those teams that lost. The Broncos, look, Drew Lock
had some opportunities to make some plays. Jerry Judy had
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two really big drops. We talked about the Titans misques
and missing the four field goals, uh sorry, the three
field goals they made one and missing the extra point,
missing the four kicks over all, the leaf ten points
on the field. The Broncos got stopped at the one
yard line on what I thought was a very questionable,
uh little rollout Drew Lock and try to have him throw, uh,
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the the little pass back inside the shovel pass coming
back in the opposite direction. I didn't like that play
call when you're that close to the goal line already,
and also the Jerry Judy drops the decisions by Vic
Fangio down the stretch. While I think the Titans would
have been to blame there if they had lost the game,
they would have kind of choked it away with their
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kicking performance, They're still were a lot of plays left
on the field by the Broncos where if you're watching them, look,
Drew Lock showed a lot of reasons for optimism. He
also went deep missed a guy wait wide open in
the end zone with about three minutes to play, which
could have potentially put the game out of reach. I
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like the killer instinct to go for the big play there,
and I like Drew Lock in general. I watched him
play a lot in Missouri. I think he has a
lot of potential. They showed that the Denver Bronco carousel
it's a little bit phallic lee uncomfortable. Did you know
the way they do? You know, it's the way they
were they were showing that, um, the way they were
writing the carousels a little bit uncomfortable. If you go back,
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I might have to tweet that video out before all
of said and done. But ultimately, to me, there's a
lot of reasons to be optimistic about young quarterbacks in
Denver and in New York based on what we saw.
This is outkicked the coverage with Clay Travis, the man
them at the Legend, Petros Papa dacas at the old
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p on Twitter. You can find him on a M
five seven l A Sports. By the way, I gotta
say this. We talked about this last time. The Dodgers
are back in the homestand I think right or at
least they were. I was watching them on the last
couple of nights, and they have refused to even let
us know where all of the cardboard cutouts that I
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paid a thousand dollars for for are in their stadium.
They initially said, oh, we're gonna put them in a
prominent location where you'll be able to see him. We
had a lot of people who listen to the show
and watch Dodger games. Nobody has sold has seen me,
Danny g or Roberto. Have people seen your I know
they've seen yours. Right, Yes, I have been located. I
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knew exactly where it was. The Dodgers are the ones
that requested us and put us up. So I'm not
trying to one up you or Danny G. I don't
have a I don't think you're upping us. I think
you're dunking on us because the Dodgers requested for you
to be involved in this. I pay my own money
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for the three of us to be involved, and they
just won't even respond to Danny G when he asked
where our pictures are. We're not even sure that they exist.
I think they might have just put us in the bathroom. Yeah.
I am in the front row, about one person down
from my radio partner, Bob Yucker style in the front row,
and I had to send three or four different pictures
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because the ones I was sending they didn't like they
had logos of things on them and and different stuff
like that. I had to turn my hat around backwards
and all kinds of different stuff. But yeah, your obsession
with your cutout at Dodger Stadium and locating it where
there are a great deal of cutouts, I mean a
lot of cutting. I just think if we if we
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gave them a thousand dollars, and and by we, I
mean I wrote a check from my personal funds for
a thousand dollars to the to the Dodgers after they
told Danny G that they were going to put the
three of us in a place where you would be visible.
It's at least reasonable for someone at the Dodgers to
actually respond to Danny G's emails and let us know
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where we actually are, given the fact that they've already
broken the promise that we're going to be visible, because
we've got a big listening audience and a lot of
people who watch Dodger games, and they've been in no
way capable of actually seeing us well. I, as a
matter of fact, no people at the Dodgers. They own
of AM five seventy l A sports which you've got
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correct earlier. And I want to give you a tip
of the cap. Much obliged on that clay, but I
will I will effort some kind of explanation. Will Broker
you were broker a detent? Yes, without distrospecting Danny G,
who's a proud Angelino, I might have to intervene here
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and do some kind of arbitration and locate your cutouts.
I have a man at Dodger Stadium who can go
get photos of those things. So these things could be
could be handled, but with respect, that would be uh,
that would be much appreciated, respectfully. Indeed, speaking of respectfully,
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Later tonight the Clippers play Game seven against the Denver Nuggets. Now,
I think the fact that this series is even going
on has escaped a lot of people's recognition because football
came back and Monday Night Football happened, and there was
such a glut of excess that people were obsessed with
being able to enjoy that they didn't even maybe know
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that Game seven is going to happen the Clippers. If
they lose this game, what is the impact in l
A for Clippers who just seemed always you would know
this better than me, but they seem to always get
close and then fail. Well, first of all, the Clippers
have one of the best owners in sports, yes, in
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Steve Balmer, and he's an owner of millions and billions
of dollars towards the Clippers being great. He's going to
build a new stadium in Inglewood. But the only thing
I can think is that somebody went to Egypt, probably
Donald Sterling, and desecrated some kind of money too, because
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it is incredible. Uh, way back when I first started
in sports radio. They had Mike Dunlevy at Elton Brand's
team and Daniel Ewing remember him, I think he was
from Duke. A big mistake on an inbound play and
they didn't make it to the conference finals. And then
there was the Doc Rivers epic meltdown with the Houston
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Rockets at Staples Center maybe six or seven years ago,
where they didn't make it. They just can't make it
to the conference finals. And people were writing articles a
week ago saying, you know, when they were up three one,
that the Clippers are going to break the curse. They
don't even care. They got Kauai. It's over. And then literally,
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like watching a movie, it's like the Mummy shows up
and he points his crooked finger and yells, and it's amazing. Uh,
I want to see the Clippers versus Lakers. So we
have something else to talk about. Like you said, there's
no USC or u c l a football, you have
other flip breaking out of a fire hose right now.
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I think that the glut was a great way to
describe it that you just said. But they can't deny
they feel cursed. I feel like Lawn Cheney is going
to show up and slap somebody's head off. It's amazing.
So if the Clippers lose, is there you mentioned they
got Steve Bomber, They've got a new arena in Inglewood
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that they want to build. Does Doc Rivers come in
for any criticism here? Based on the talent that they have,
which I think everybody out there listening would acknowledge is
more substantial than the Nuggets. It's one thing if you
lose to the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals and
then the Lakers go on and win the NBA title,
you can at least think our core is younger than
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their core. Lebron's obviously going to be thirty six. I
think it is next year, and you can think with
this new arena, there's lots of reasons for optimism. But
would Doc Rivers come in for any criticism if after
going up three one against an inferior team they didn't
find a way to close it out? Well, I mean,
how do you criticize somebody who's cursed? Yeah, it's the
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Mummy's curse. What can you do about the curse? I mean,
I look as far as different moves in an NBA
game and what he could have done or didn't do.
You know, you can ask your boy Mannic about that,
who loves Doc Rivers. But I like Doc Rivers too.
He's a really magnetic personality and you only have to
be in the room with him for about two minutes
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and he wins you over in a second and you
just feel like everything's gonna be okay. I mean, he's
really one of those guys. He's very bad ametic and
that's why he's had the success he's had. But there's
some people that point out that he hasn't won an
NBA championship without Tom Thibodeau coordinating his NBA defense like
he did with the Celtics, and they beat the Lakers
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back in OH nine. I think maybe no, no, oh six.
Whatever the point is, it's been a while, and uh,
I mean, Bell all come under criticism, Kawhi, Leonard, Paul George,
Doc Rivers, Montrez Harrold, who had a terrible Game six,
who was the NBA's reigning six man, Lou Williams. I mean,
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there's moments where they look like one of the greatest
teams in NBA history, according to Jeff Van Gundi, in
the defense they're playing, and then there's other moments where
it just so easily slips away. It feels like the
Mummy's curse. So when you, I mean, it is kind
of fascinating to think about when you you just okay.
So let's pivot off of the expectation was it was
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a Lakers clips. Lakers have done their part. We'll see
what the Clippers do it on Tuesday. What does it
feel like as a big time college football fan in
l A. To be looking around at all the college
football games that are being played. The SEC comes back
next week. It seems like the Big Ten with all
their drama, gonna be back I think on October, and
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the Pact twelve is now going to be left. It
appears on an island among the Power five conferences not playing.
What does that feel like? You know, in the city
of Los Angeles, now you have the Chargers and you
have the Rams, and we'll get to their game here
in a little bit. But as a big college football fan,
and I know there are a lot of big college
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football fans in l A, does it feel strange to
watch everybody else like as if they're living a different
lifestyle than you are in the l A area. God
I'm a real Massochist, aren't I for coming on here? Yes.
First of all, like I don't think of myself as
a college football fan, although I guess this year I am.
In a lot of ways. I think of myself as
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a college football analyst. I mean I've called I've called
games nationally since two thousand four. So I answer your
question honestly, it was excruciating for me watching the whole
thing happened without me, and I try not to have,
you know, I try to check my ego and realized that,
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you know, when I fall off a cliff or whatever,
the world's going to keep on turning. Uh, no problem.
But it was a bit of an identity crisis weekend
for me. Uh. You know, last weekend I'd never been uh,
I've never been in town on Labor Day. Uh. This weekend,
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you know, watching a lot of my colleagues, you know,
including my cousin who's in a truck in Kansas with
Tim Brando and Spencer Tillman. Watching all that and just
kind of seeing it unfold was was hard. It was interesting,
I mean because I used to do uh some Conference
USA games when Fox Sports one started, you remember, and
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to my my suit for one of them. Yeah, that
was a couple of Yeah, that was a couple of
years into it down in PoCA, but uh, rough day.
But I gotta say, the teams that are used to
playing when nobody in the stands, you know, they came
out and punched people in the neck, you know, because
I mean you saw the pros. I mean, the pros
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are pros, and they need to go out there and
protect their neck or somebody's gonna die. And when they're
told to play, they just go play. But with the
college kids, it was really a scrimmagey feel, you could
tell with those Big twelve teams, and they struggled, you know, Kansas,
and I was stayed in Kansas State. Now, of course
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one of them will turn around and beat Oklahoma in
November and ruined the Big twelve season somehow. Yeah, that's
how it always works out. But I found that really interesting.
You know. It does show a big difference between college
and pro football for where it is really really hard
to create your own energy as a college football team.
It takes a great deal of discipline. And we saw
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a few teams that really should have dominated struggle and
it was really interesting and I'm proud of those Sun
Belt teams. I think. I think it's awesome their will
for football and the passioned plant, even though they come
from small places and generally very small schools with different resources.
I was endlessly impressed with with the sun Belt and
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the way they showed up. It was awesome. We're talking
to Petro's papadegas at the Old be on Twitter A
M five seventy l A Sports Petros and Money Show, Okay,
NFL and the way it all shook out. I mean,
it was amazing to see Sophi Stadium in all of
its resplendent glory without any fans present there at all.
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Have you walked through the stadium at all to see it?
I mean, it looked amazing on Tell Vision even without
fans there. Uh, it certainly looks like a palace. Yeah.
I was supposed to be there last night to do
our TV show, but we ended up just doing it
in studio anyway, because of access would have been so limited.
I have not been over there. I've I've declined most invitations.
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As you know, I don't like going anywhere unless I'm
paid to go. Uh and uh, you know, I think
it's beautiful. I mean, look, I like old things. So
my favorite stadiums are the memorial stadiums from World War
One in Nebraska, cal the Coliseum here Illinois. You know,
the World War One memorial stadiums with the Greek theme
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are my favorite stadiums on Earth. Now. Of course they're
antiquated and really like sewers, but I like them. Uh
that being said, I did a Cotton Bowl for the
first time, and then a Big twelve championship in the
Jerry Jones Dome, and it is jaw dropping, right like,
even for a guy that hates modern and stuff. I
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mean I I was staring up at that monitor and
somebody ran a kick returned right up my ass on
the sideline. You know, it was it was. It's it's
an unbelievable experience, and this is supposed to be better,
which is hard to imagine because the place in Dallas
is so impressive. By all accounts, it's very special, but
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of course no one is allowed to go, so it's
a really awkward cell. You know. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
I I think there's no doubt at all as you
as you start to look through what did you think
about the past interference calls? That one effectively the offensive
past interference calls that interestingly won both the Chargers and
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the Rams. There they're openers. Do you think both should
have been called? The shove on A J. Green that
negated the Bengals touchdown and the ledge shove from Michael
Gallup that potentially created a situation that allowed the Rams
to escape with a win over the cow Boys. Yeah,
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saw both live. I'm always a guy. I mean it's
a lot like a modern NBA now. I mean, these
guys hands on the perimeter are so fast and they're
so good at selling this or that with their bodies
that I am always a fan of leaving it in
the pocket. The A. J. Green versus Hayward, I mean,
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those are two great players. I mean, Hayward is one
of the best cover corners in the NFL. And I
would have just liked to have seen Joe Burrow be
able to make that play. And I mean it was
good physical play by both guys, I thought, and they
both you know, he was grabbing and A J. Pushed
off the same thing with the other one. Uh, one
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guy has had ahold of him and the other guy
pushed off, and then Ramsey kind of jerked his body
back after the fact, but of course we saw it
all in slow motion. I thought both flags should have
been left in the pocket. But I'm not going to
sit here and go on the air and have a
connection about it, right. Uh, well, that makes you a rarity,
and certainly a rarity Herrera on. You know, put Pereira
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on or Blandino and let him explain it and move
on with your lives. I mean, I I remember I
was a game that I scored two different touchdowns that
were called back. Uh, and the Pact twelve sent us
a letter on Wednesday saying, hey, sorry about that. Those
were the wrong calls. It's like, oh, okay, well we lost.
You know, you know, you have to just pick up
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and move on in those situations, and that's what football.
I think that's why the country in many ways is
so attracted to the sport because it's not perfect, it's
pretty ugly. It's about overcoming adversity, and uh, that's what
you have to do, There's no doubt. And also the
Rams got absolutely an awful call against them when you
couldn't have a more ridiculous hands to the helmet hit
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than Jared Goff got on his interception and that got missed,
so some people would say, including me, that those kind
of canceled out. Petro's papadegis. We will talk to you
next week and we will see whether or not. By then,
we are officially underway with the Battle of Los Angeles
between the Lakers and the Clippers. Thanks my man. I'm
just hoping for clear skies. I mean it's like a
blade runner here. Yeah, I know, I've heard it's crazy
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out there. Uh, good luck. This is outkicked the coverage
with plates traps. We're talking a little bit about Vic
Fangio earlier and his decision to keep the two timeouts.
Joel clad will be with us on Friday. Lead college
football announcer said, you haven't heard of the t O
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black market straight cash for unused time outs. Very smart
by him, obviously. That is sarcasm from from Joel clatt
Uh and Todd Ferman if you're a fan of the
office said it's a Michael Scott budget surplus situation. Speaking
of a budget surplus situation, there's about to be a
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lot of people in the Clippers organization saying, wait a minute,
why do we have this budget, this massive surplus budget
that we are spending on coaches if we're gonna give
up a three one series lead to an inferior team
and we're gonna lose tonight. With Game seven going on
in the bubble down in l A, with the chance
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being the bubble obviously down in Orlando, with the chance
being though to set up the Battle of O l
A in Florida, a lot of people tuned out, and
I'll be honest, I was one of them. When the
Clippers went up three one, even though the Nuggets had
come back from a three one series deficit already, I
thought this series was over. I thought that the Clippers
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were gonna go ahead and roll in. Honestly, I wasn't
even paying that much attention because all the college football
in the NFL games started, and then I kind of
just saw the score. I checked the score a couple
of times, and the Clippers were up fifteen plus twice
in the second half, and I thought it was all
over complete and then boom it falls on us, and uh,
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the entire Uh there's a big amount of pressure I
would think on Doc Rivers, on Paul George in particular,
who's never had a tremendous amount of playoffs success. If
Kauai loses, people will say, well, this guy's already won
two championships with two different teams. I don't think a
lot of people are gonna focus on him, but a
lot would go on Paul George's shoulders, a lot would
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go on Doc rivers shoulders. It's one thing if you
lose to the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals. We
expected that matchup literally the moment that Kauai and Paul
George decided to both go to the Clippers. But if
that doesn't make sense, Uh, if that doesn't end up happening,
that's a tough way for the Clippers to go out.
They've never made the Western Conference Finals before. Seven and
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a half seemed steep to me. I'm gonna have to
decide later today on Fox bet Live what my choice
is gonna be. I'm gonna bet on this game. But
early reads seven and a half seems really really steep
to me. Uh, speaking by the way of the City
of Los Angeles, and I think we're gonna talk about
this some tomorrow and I'll continue to to beat this drum.
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Jason Whitlock and I had a conversation off air after
after all the process has been going on with the UH,
with the shootings that occurred with the two police officers
and in l A, the they were ambushed. They had
done absolutely nothing wrong, and so we decided that the
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l A County Sheriff came out and said, we'd like
to get help from Lebron James. We'd like for him
to help donate money to be able to to help
catch the perpetrator here. And I've done this before with
a situation that happened in Nashville where there was a
fugitive and I was particularly struck by it and I
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wanted that fugitive to be caught. In Nashville is accused
of stabbing to death UH two different young kids who
had done nothing wrong at a Nashville bar, and this
situation watching that video for those police officers who had
done nothing wrong too. We are donating ten thousand dollars
on top of the money that has already been donated
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for anyone who can allow that shooter to be brought
to justice. So we have a big audience in l A.
A lot of people are beginning their morning with us listening.
We have a lot of police officers who listened to
this show Jason Whitlock and myself with our company OutKick,
we are adding ten thousand dollars if that perpetrator can
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be captured, if he can be brought to justice that
video that was out there, if you know who did
that and you can help to allow that man to
be captured, we are gonna donate ten thousand dollars to
whoever helps to make that happen. So we're gonna be
trying to do our small part without Kick, We're having
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a lot of success with our media business. We're trying
to make the world a little bit better. We can't
make the world better in every single respect. We can't
solve every problem, but we have a lot of l
A Police officers who are big fans of this show,
who listen every morning on a M five s l
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ten thousand dollars from OutKick to bring that perpetrator who
ambushed those officers to justice. If you can help out,
we want to help you out as well. Thank you
for listening. Congrats to everybody the sixteen teams that one
will continue to break down the NFL college football as well.
It's a great time a year. Hope all of you
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