Oppressed Fish

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standing in a long security line here where we are
broadcasting live at Radio Row. Since it's Wednesday morning, things

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are a lot busier on the streets. There was a
little bit of ice in Atlanta, and more cars on
the road, more visitors have arrived at the airport, more fans.
I saw a big line of some NFL contest winners
that were also going through the security check. So it
is a madhouse and I can't imagine what it's gonna
look like tomorrow and as the week ends and gets

(01:27):
closer to the big game. All right, so you heard
the last hour of Big Ben Mallor and you know,
me and Ben, we go way back back, like Simolac.
And it's nice because even though he was kidding around
on the radio, he was texting me last hour and
guys back of the studio in l A. Ben texted
me asking if we could please please replay the last

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two minutes of yesterday's out Kick show because he loved
hearing uh Deshaun Watson on the network. And Ben, thank
you for texting me and asking me that, because I
would like to hear that replay as well. So let's
play the last two minutes of yesterday's show. Join now
for two minutes by Deshaun Watson. He is sliding into

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the seat with us right now. Appreciate him joining us.
Houston Texans quarterback UH Deshaun Watson, you're with old Spice.
You are here a very smart short amount of time.
So I want to ask you this, Um, when you
see a guy like Jared Goff twenty four years old
and what you guys did postseason advance everything else, how
excited are you walking around to be doing radio road

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to expect to be here yourself one day? Oh? Yeah,
I mean that's a big expectation for myself for the
Houston Texans. Um. You know, I'm only twenty threes. Hopefully
when I'm twenty four, I'm sitting in Miami in a
hotel getting ready for a Super Bowl. So it gives
me a lot of motivation, a lot of confidence that
you know, no matter what age you are, what your
your year, you are, you know in the NFL that

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if you have a good year and and you know,
go about your business and game, that you can be
an opportunity to do the same thing. Now. You were
on the field watching Clemson put the beat down on Alabama.
Be honest maybe not. You weren't surprised that they won.
How surprised were you they beat down Alabama like they did? Um, honestly,
I was very surprised, especially to the score. Of the
way of the Alabama plate. I thought it was gonna

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be a closer game. I wasn't expecting it. I knew
that we were gonna win. I knew that we have,
you know, an opportunity to win. I wasn't expecting a
beat beat down that we did. Should Trevor Lawrence be
the overall number one draft pick if he were coming
out this year? Would you draft number one? For sure?
I'm taking taking a little bron outstanding. Who's your pick
for the Super Bowl? Uh? I mean I I just
want a good game. But if I had to pick,

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I go round. Yeah. DeAndre Hopkins he the best receiver
you've ever seen, for sure. He's the best receiver I've
played with, for sure. Outstanding stuff. Hey man, we appreciate
the time next year, potentially being in Miami. I'm played, Travis,
this is out kicked the coverage. Deshaun Watson just joining
us there, loaded show. We've had a great time Atlanta.
Super Bowl fifty three will be back tomorrow Wednesday edition.

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While from here, By the way, can you believe that
Anthony Davis requested a trade? Hopefully go to the Lakers
would be cool. Yeah, we're out welcome back in I
hope your Wednesday is going spectacularly well. We are live
in Atlanta. For some reason, security decided to have four
hundred people in line this morning. I don't know why.

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It's unpredictable. This is one of the things that drives
me insane. How do you not know exactly how long
the lines are gonna take and be prepared for this?
Four people in line to come into the building this morning.
There hasn't been one person in line so far. What
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morning and a lot of you were texting me pictures

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of your phones all over the Midwest. It's cold everywhere.
It's even cold in Atlanta, relatively speaking, cold in Atlanta,
but it is brutally cold across much of the country.
I'm gonna open up the phone lines also. You can
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listening to out kick this morning in the nation eight

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seven seven nine six three six nine. Positive news story
of the day Last year at the Super Bowl, this
was the day that Jason Mark did not show up
after the media party after everybody went. We had the
media party last night at the Georgia Aquarium. I've never
been here in downtown Atlanta to the Georgia Aquarium. Really cool.

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They had an unbelievably huge well shark, which was phenomenal
to be able to see. Really cool venue, awesome event.
Danny G was there, and Danny G has managed to
make it to work this morning and he was even
on time. Was there no security line at all for you.
I you know, I was worried about pulling at Jason
Martin like you almost did. So I actually woke up early.

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I was sitting here at five oh five am. Was
there a line though? When you There was a line
of some NFL contest winners and they were starting to
search them right when I got to security. So I
made it in before the mad rush. Yeah. I don't
understand exactly what's happened, why they're unprepared for for the line.
But also I didn't want to pull like a you know, like, hey,

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I gotta be on the radio. The world might come
to an end if I'm not talking when the when
the show officially began. So I didn't jump a lot
of people, but I feel like somebody should have asked, like, hey,
anybody here got a live radio show they're supposed to
be on, and then they couldn't, Like you know, when
you're at the airport, if your flights about to take
off and you got a disaster, they'll come by and
grab you. So promps to Danny g for being able
to actually make it to the show today. Jason Martin

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last year only made it for of the shows. And
by the way, a lot of witnesses you saw at
the party pointing out there was controversy last year over
j mart saying, Oh, I didn't have too much to drink.
I must have gotten sick. Uh. There were a lot
of people they're actually saying that he had a lot
to drink and that they were witnesses. Yeah. The Nashville
crew that was there was a lot of fun. As
soon as I walked up, they were like, oh my god,

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we gotta tell you about what Jason did last year
and this is what he said and this is how
it went down. And so it was funny hearing the
stories throughout the night because I heard some of it,
but I didn't hear what he was doing to impress
a certain girl that was there and uh, and other
stories I'll keep off of the air. But so for
people who don't remember Bird last year, we were in
Minnesota and Jason Martin as the former producer. He's in

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Danny G's chair last year, and when we got downstairs
to start the show, he was just covering his face.
He laid down, he was covered in sweat and I
just sent him home and then he was unable to
answer phone calls for like the next nine hours or something,
to the point where I literally called the front desk

(08:26):
and said, hey, can you do a wellness check? I
think he might be dead because he wouldn't answer phone
calls and we called him live on the radio. But
that didn't really surprise me because sometimes he would dodge
calls like that, even when we called his hotel room.
But I I legitimately thought that he might be dead.
So I had to send insecurity because I was like,
I don't I don't want to be making fun of
the guy if he's dead. That would be awkward on

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the show. I also root against death in general, but
if he died, then it would people go back and
they'll be like, wow, that was kind of uncomfortable scenes
that they had going on there. Um. So we are
at the Wednesday of the Super Bowl obviously audition here
in Atlanta, super Bowl fifty three Radio row. We have
got a loaded show coming your way. Let me give
you the road map of who exactly is going to

(09:08):
be on. You just heard Deshaun Watson. He was on
at the very end of the show yesterday, which was
which was pretty cool. Um and uh, we were glad
to grab him. But in the event that you missed that,
but we have got a pretty loaded show today. We're
gonna talk um, I believe in our one. We'll see
if he shows up or he might be caught in
the security line as well. Actually a lot of people

(09:29):
might get caught in the security line today, UM and
uh and end up late. But I believe Kirk Minahan
from w e I, who is a longtime radio guys,
gonna join us. Patriot guy who has covered Tom Brady
for his entire career, talked about him on the radio.
I believe he has set to join us an hour one.
I believe so uh. An hour two will be joined
by Pat McAfee. UH and that should be that should

(09:51):
be pretty outstanding former punter UM and uh and now
a kind of man about town does a little bit
of everything. Jeff Schwartz will join us an our three
and Philip Lindsay running back from the Denver Broncos who
had an incredible first year. All of those guys scheduled.
You never know who else might drop by, But that
is what is scheduled for the Wednesday edition of Out

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Kicked the coverage, I believe again challenge out there early
this morning. Can anybody who is gonna win the challenge?
Who's gonna win the challenge? I will send you a
prize pack if you can provide evidence that it is
the coldest. Again, We're gonna use your phone as evidence,
the absolute coldest in the country. Who can win the
OutKick Award as the polar vort Vortex? I think it's

(10:34):
called sweeps down. It's gonna be the coldest maybe it's
ever been in Chicago, at Minneapolis, but other places, South Dakota,
North Dakota, northern UH Minnesota. Who can win the polar
Vortex Award? You can tweet me at Clay Travis this
morning again at Clay Travis if you with a screenshot
of how cold it is as evidence where you are

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right now eight seven seven six three six nine. Will
take your calls when we come back. UM. As we
get closer and closer to the Super Bowl, UH, A
couple of news stories that are out there that I
think are somewhat intriguing. The Anthony Davis drama continues, but
it doesn't appear that anybody is going to actually be
willing with the Pelicans to make that trade before the

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trade deadline next Thursday. UH, we talked about this a
great deal right after it happened. They have officially come
down with the rulings on Cabib and Connor McGregor in
the wake of their UFC fight that went off the
rails and spiraled into the crowd and everything else. Cabib,
along with Connor McGregor and UH and a couple of
other fighters that were in his entourage and also one

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of McGregor's guys, have all officially gotten their suspensions. UH.
Cabib says he'll never fight in Las Vegas again, but
he has been suspended for nine months and FIND five
hundred thousand dollars. He would be eligible because it's a
retroactive suspension back to the date of UFC to twenty nine,
which back in October. Remember we talked about this a

(12:02):
big story that Monday. UH. He is eligible to fight again,
even though he says he's never gonna do it again.
On July six, in UH the U in Vegas and
Connor McGregor has been given a six month suspension only
FIND fifty thousand dollars. He's eligible to return to competition
as soon as April six, which also, by the way,

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is my forty birthday, so we'll see exactly what happens there.
A couple of the guys who jumped into the ring
as a part of Kabib's entourage. They have also gotten
one year suspensions or gotten one year suspensions and twenty
five thousand dollar finds. Kabib says he will pay their
uh their uh finds in that scenario, so that story

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is out there. The Pelicans, who everybody had given up
for dead by the way, beat the rockets last night
and a what was a pretty substantial upset. So we're
gonna go to your calls. We have the Polar Vortex
Challenge going on right now to start off OutKick loaded
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find out who wins our Polar Vortex challenge. Let's go

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to Bill in white Bear Lake, Minnesota. I've never been
to White Bear Lake. But that's an amazing name for
a town. And also that sounds like the kind of
place that's gonna be really cold. Bill, what you got
for me? Thank you? Yes, it's a great place to be. Um.
Currently on the dashboard it says it's negative thirty two
degrees fahrenheit, Yes, negative two and a wind chill of

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fifty below. All right, that's Bill with coming in and
starting off strong there white bear lag minus thirty two,
actual temperature fifty below on the wind chill polar vortex
challenge here uh as we start off the show, Paul
in Fargo, North Dakota. What you got, say, Clay, thanks
for the call. If you go to msn UH dot

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com weather, it will show that Fargo is currently a
baldy minus thirty six degrees. You know, it isn't that
wendy this morning. So because of the low wind, the
windshill is only quote unquota negative fifty eight degrees. It
was funny, I'm up early this morning. My wife wakes
up and says, oh good, you're up. You have time
to go to the grocery store before you go to
the office. He hands me this grocery list with like

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three items on it. I'm like, Dear, I love you,
but there's no way I'm going on into this frozen
tundra for milk bananas and that hazel nut coffee creamy
you like. I mean, you'll have to drink your coffee
black today. I'll go to the store when it warms
up on Friday. Yeah, no kidding. I want to welcome
to marriage. All right? So what was the number again
on there? Danny? You gotta write these days. You're minus
fifty eight for fargo, minus fifty eight a windshill over

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minus thirty something legitimate um without the windshill at all, Ryan,
and I believe it's hibbing, Minnesota. What's up? Ryan? Hey there, Clay. Uh,
we're sitting at thirty two below, but I got everybody
on the windshill. We're at negative sixty one on the
wind chill, negative sixty one on the wind chill. Appreciate

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you calling in. All right, that's the winner right now.
And if you can, if you tweet me and you're
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Let's go to Tony and Brainerd, Minnesota. And by the way,
I'm at Clay Travis on Twitter. Tony and Brainier brainerd Minnesota.
What you got? Good morning, Claius. Hey, thanks taking my call.
Right now it is minus thirty four and now I
don't have quite the sixty one. We have a negative

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fifty five. Not quite yeah, not quite like ninety six
when we have the coldest day of minus sixty here.
But it's definitely bitter. Called. Appreciate the call. And by
the way, you guys can send me your dash cams
or your your phone if you can beat what's the
number right now, minus sixty one on the windshill, Yeah,
hibbing Minnesota in the lead. Yeah, so we will see

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if anybody can beat him in Minnesota. Let's go to
just somebody who says Kevin says he's in northern Minnesota. Kevin,
what's up? And this could continue, by the way throughout
the show. If you can beat it, then dub has
to answer your call. We just need evidence on social
media as well to support in addition to what you're saying, Kevin,
what you got for me? Hey, I get the same
as Ryan. I'm about twenty minutes to east. I got

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In fact, my car thermometer doesn't eat anything because it's
below thirty below. But I got thirty four and the
same windshill minus thirty four and the windshill is minus
sixty one. Yeah. Wow, that's amazing. Um, that is absolutely wild.
Uh Okay, I think we're good all right, so we'll's
continue to take calls double field. You're called dub hop

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the Patriots won their first Super Bowl against the Rams,
that you'd still be talking about Tom Brady and Bill
Belichick and if they would turn into one of the
greatest dynasties in the history of sports seventeen years later,
your response would have been what I mean, you know,
obviously impossible. But you know what's what's amazing about that
is remember No. Two, they missed the playoffs. Yeah, blood
so actually has a big year in Buffalo, and so

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you're starting to think, you know what's really going on here?
But no, I mean, I would maintain that's the greatest
on the history of professional sports. I mean, given what
you know, how the NFL step to be eight and eight,
how they do this every single year. I mean, the
Yankees of the forties and fifties and Canadians. It doesn't compare.
It's and we are now officially in sort of mind
boggling stage. I mean, this is their ninth super basics.

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It's it's it's impossible. Now. Still thirty six thousand people
showed up for the departure, you know, because I think
a lot of people here this story, and if they're
not Patriot fans, frankly, I think there's a lot of
people who are tired of the Patriots, who are tired
of Tom Brady nationally, Bill Belichick. But the feeling in
the Boston area in New England is still what about
this Patriot's team? Well, you know it was, it was

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sort of galvanized, and they have created this thing this year,
which is smart. They've done it over the years, and
I've heard you talk about I feel I think similar
is this idea that that's sort of this US against
the world that yes, but it's brilliant. It's a brilliant move.
It's a great it's a great Belichick one oh one move.
He finds a couple of dopey national people. Your Kellerman's
or whoever you're you write, your mon you picked two

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or three sound bites and then you roll with it.
I mean, how how easy is that? And now they
have managed once again to ful New England and they
don't even know if the fans of the wingland really
but but they're having fun with it. And it was weird.
This year was quieter Clay than other years, and that
there was no deflate gate. Uh, you know, there was
no Wickersham story, there was no palace intrigue. Right, so
when they were kind of eleven and five by Patriot

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standards is kind of a five non playoff teams, they
could those back to back losses, the Miami losses fluky
as it was at the end in Pittsburgh where they
look bad fans having in the playoffs. They don't want
who made it now. Of course they weren't feeling a
lot different than some of those national people were. But
the minute they beat the charges, all of a sudden
that became, you know, us against the world. Everyone says
Brady is too old. I meanwhile, you know who is

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really saying that Brady is too old? Like? Who was
saying that during the I know people were saying you
know why they were saying it because he wasn't as
good this year as he wasn't previous years. Right now
he looks great, But yeah, this is this this by
the way, he starts as always as the top of Belichick.
I mean, you're talking about the team that is favored
to win the Super Bowl? Who were I was saying,
it's us against the world. There is a dichotomy there.
And have been favored in eight of the nine Super

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Bowls going all the way back to the last time
they played, And have been favored in sixty nine of
the last seventy football games, whether it's playoffs or regular season,
which is a pretty crazy stat in and of itself.
There too, Having said that, Brady says he wants to
play till he's forty five. How long does he play?
I mean, you know, I think he'll play until he's
forty three, forty four. I heard him say yesterday. Obviously

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he'll be back next year, And if he plays next
year like he did this year, he'll be back the
year after that. I mean, I do think when they
made the Garoppolo trade, I do think they got the
Craft's got some sort of nod from Brady that, hey,
I mean this, there's no way they were the trade
of Garoppolo for a second round pick and had Brady
walk up the door say this year, next year. I
just don't believe that now, not being said, I mean,
you know, it's it's great he's playing like this, but

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if he falls off that cliff the Kellerman keeps talking about,
then he'll quit. But I don't do you get the
sense watching him that's gonna happen. Yeah, And I think
people under rate how much his passion is playing football
and how much you just feel like you step off
a ledge if you suddenly aren't playing football. His entire
life has been built around maniacally focusing and having as
much success in the game of football as he can.

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And it's like anything else if you've done it for
a long time and then suddenly you don't have it,
as you know, I mean, like anybody else who's had
a job and then you suddenly don't have a job.
You wake up and you're like, what am I gonna do?
I've been doing the last three months. You know, Uh,
that'll change in March. But yeah, so. But but the
other thing I think is that Brady, he's gotten the older,
can partmentalize. I mean, you know, Okay, it's a full
time job. But this is the full time job. So

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you know, in in April he works out for two
or three hours a day. He has twenty one hours
a day to do this stuff. He has kids, he
has a wife. He doesn't go into this bunker. He's
not like Rocky in Russia. Yeah, there are things, and
I think he has figured that out versus when he
was twenty seven or twenty eight where I mean, And
it's a good point. Like, so let's say he's forty four, right, Yes,
he retires, he's still pretty good. You wake up on

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a on a Wednesday in September, your kids are at school.
What are you doing? I don't care if you have
six hundred million dollars or sixty dollars? What are you
doing at eleven o'clock tom Brady's and Tom Brady by
the way, you can't go to Panera, You can't try
the book club. Like what are you gonna do? And
where is he gonna live? You know, I mean his
whole life would be up for it. Is he gonna
stay in New England or is just l gonna be like, hey,
we're gonna move somewhere with a little better weather than winter.
I don't know. So this is I think a good

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debate as well. I argued, if Brady wins the super
Bowl here that you can make a legitimate case, and
in fact, I might make that case that he is
the greatest, you know, individual player in a team sport ever,
right like Jordan is in that Bill Russell back in
the day. I mean, obviously, generationally it gets more difficult
to make outside of you know, people who are outside

(25:31):
of Brady's age. Is that what's at stake now? Because
for Jared goffin Sean McVeigh, you become a made man
if you win your first super Bowl for Brady and
Belichick and the Patriots. What does it matter in the
grand scheme of things outside of, hey, this is a game,
we want to win it. In the long term legacy
with what happens in the super Bowl for them, yeah,
I mean I think yeah. But that's the thing is, so,
you know, in sports talk radio, Brady is essentially demolished

(25:54):
all the all the barstool bar conversations. You know, are
you who's the greatest quarterback ever? Who's a great is
you know? Team? Ever? I think he's probably I would
I could still make a case for Jerry Rice. But
I think he's the greatest football player. Yes, but yeah,
I mean I think if he wins the Super Bowl,
you're probably right. I mean it's hard for me to
do sort of presegregation athletes in the conversation. She's just weird.
I mean, if you're gonna say, you're gonna start with who,

(26:14):
say Russell and go on, Yeah, you could definitely say
it's Brady. But but but I think Belichick's like the
same way. Like I was just talking about Brady, I
don't like Belichick's going anywhere. Do you get that sense?
It sounds like he's he's just mastered. Sorry, I feel
like he's mastered it. He's sixty six. And I think, um,
I feel the same way about saman I think a
lot of those guys look at somebody like Bear Bryant

(26:35):
or Joe pa Turno for that matter. Yeah, when they
when they actually give it up, that is what is
getting them out of bed every morning to be able
to do that, and it's their purpose and I think
they genuinely love it. But I also think their routine
has become so substantial that they don't know what else
they would do. And I think it's to your point.
I mean, what's Belichick going to do if suddenly he
doesn't have film to break down and he's not getting
ready for a game. I think I think if he

(26:56):
got kicked upstairs right, if he decided to do it
and he was, I just think it'd be bored. That's
not I've only got a real substantial job in his mind.
And he watches Josh McDaniels coach Tom Brady and he's thinking, well,
why am I sitting in this, you know, sweet with
the crafts watching this and I could be down there coaching.
It's all right, So let's everybody out there who's listening.
Right now, we're talking to Kirkmanahan, a long time radio
show host, very successful in the Boston, New England area.

(27:17):
What's your story for people who don't know you just
just hinted at it. Um, you know you've been off
the air for the past several months. Um, what's your
plan going forward? What for people out there who haven't
heard you and want to kind of get an update. Well, Clay,
we are It's like being in the David Lynch movie.
I'm watching my old morning show, watching Charlie Weiss like
wadle on the left, my old morning showing the right,
you're here. I do feel like I'm in some surreal

(27:39):
like that really, Charlie weis walking, that's really funny. I
just feel like still cash and checks from Notre Dame,
but waiting for Dennis Hopper to Yeah. But so I
was on w E I and I think we had
you on was the last year a couple of year ago.
And you guys, and by the way, you do an
incredible work. And we've been on the same side of
a lot of issues as the country has gone insane.
You are one of the same voices that that actually

(28:01):
is willing to point out how things are going insane.
So that's so, that's sort of what led to we
were EI. It was number one morning show in Boston
for a couple of years, and I wind up getting
the conflicts with the Red Sox. I had the audacity
to suggest, just suggest that Adam Jones may not be
telling the truth in the whole situation. All I wanted
was this weird word. It's five letters. I don't know
what uh it's called proof I ever heard it. That's
all I wanted, and and and and that got them

(28:23):
all worked up because everyone worked up, and you we
live in a world now where if you ask questions,
and by the way, if if somebody and somebody in
center field reportedly called Adam Jones and word, if they
did that, I'm happy to put that guy in jail
for fifty years. I don't care. He's a creep. But
you know that sort of started the whole thing and
then gotten the babbles with the mayor, got in the
paddles with the governor. Uh, and the station wound up saying, listen,

(28:43):
where the with the Red Sox. The Red Sox by
the way of broadcast in the year, and they said,
you know what, it's just not gonna work out here.
We're gonna shift you over to radio dot com. I'm
gonna start with my show uh in March radio dot com.
You can find the app for it anywhere and you
can go there, and it's gonna be I think Clay
more Freedom. But we're gonna find out when you because
they're gonna be is you know, they're gonna be moments
when things get hot. We'll see. Right now, everything is

(29:03):
great because they're still the planning phase, right. But you're right,
and that we live in a world now where the
immediate thing to do right away is, you know, all right,
let's go, let's run, let's get this guy fired. And
once you get that guy age culture, we don't need
proof for anything, right somebody, If somebody is alleged to
have done something in this day and age, that immediately
everybody believes the worst and they're like, everybody's gonna be fired,

(29:25):
and we demand like a scalp. Well that's the thing.
So then right then then they get their scalp, and
then they're they're not really satisfied. They say, Okay, that
guy's a carcass. Let's move on to the next fake outrage.
Let's find it, let's bring them down. It's a weird
it's in a way good for us. It's good for
business because something for us to fight against, right, but
at the same time infuriating. And I don't know, there
has to be I think a moment where something happens
on that side that's so outrageous that it begins to switch.

(29:48):
But I suspect as long as Trump is president, I
think I think that side is so is so galvanized
by that that it's it's not gonna matter. It's interesting
you bring up the people don't think it necessarily about
this very in the local market, but when you are
on the air with a team like you're talking about
the Red Sox area in that station at the time. Um,

(30:08):
I when I did local radio in Nashville, we had
a a lot of issues with somewhat the Titans where
they would get upset about things I would say, but
more so the Nashville Predators who were initially on our
air waves and then moved off. This is a ridiculous story.
The Predators basically said, unless you control what Clay Travis says,
then we'll stop spending AD dollars with you. And people

(30:31):
don't think about that from like you talking about a
soft franchise to come in, but that that kind of
stuff happens all the happening on the air. Yeah, I
think it happens all the time. I really do. And
you know, and I think at the end the station
usually I'm not sure what happened your situation. They, to
their credit, they we're not gonna try to tell Clay
Travis what you can say about hockey franchise, like just
screw you guys. Yeah, and I but and then if

(30:52):
anything that encouraged me to go after them even more
because I'm like, if you're this soft your professional franchise
and you're worried about what I'm saying, then I'm gonna
tee off even more on you guys. The Red Sox
are weird. Clay though also that the Globe is owned
by the same person ones in Red Sox, right, you know,
John Henry Linda Pezooti. That's how I've had my issues
with the Globe as well. So it got incestuous and
ugly and you know, and so they said, we don't

(31:13):
want to deal with you anymore. So you'll be doing this,
uh theoretically more independent show. How will people find you?
In general? If they want to hear you, you go
to radio dot com, right, you find the app any
app store radio dot com and then search for me.
The show will start I think in March the rest
of this What time will the show be? I think
it's gonna be ten to one. Okay, it's was I
guess a good story. I have people figuring will you
do it from a studio or from the studio? Yeah? Studio?

(31:37):
And uh is your goal to be able to basically
continue to do what you did just have more freedom
and yes you can say yeah, just yes, exactly, that's
exactly right. And well, like I said, right now, everything
is good. But now that works in this stage. But
I feel really confident and good about it. By the way,
the rest of the week, I was yesterday, I was
with your friend Dave Portnoy. But by the way, this guy, uh,
I sat next to who torched you yesterday, which was

(32:00):
rate entertaining. So so Portnoy hates you right, which which
is really funny. It's very one. I want to hear you,
but I want to hear your side. There must be
so he said, you're a fake. He said, he blew
vapor in your face. He said that you've lied to him.
You said, so, I mean, I don't think any of
that is true, Like he's lying him on everything. I
I offered him the opportunity to come on this show
many times, and I don't even get well, he gotta.

(32:22):
It's really funny that whoever pr company they have like
reached out and said, hey, we want to get get
him on your show. And I tweeted it out yesterday.
But years ago, so we initially met. You know what,
let's take a break we'll come back and come back.
We'll get into that, like with the drama there. Um,
I am Clay Travis. By the way, this is out
Kake the Coverage. We're talking with Kirkmanahan. You can hear
him on radio dot com starting in March. Tend to one.

(32:43):
It sounds like every day, very talented guy. You can
follow him on Twitter at kirkman that's right right, Uh
and uh you can tweet him there as well. Right now,
I am Clay Travis. This is out Kick the Coverage.
We are live from Radio Row at the Super Bowl
fifty three, breaking down Brady Patriots, Rams, Sean McVeigh, everything
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Go follow him on Twitter there and we teased the
the ongoing feud that Dave Portnoy from bar Stool has
with me. You were actually on the radio with him
yesterday and people tweeted that he went off on me
for like ten or eleven minutes, hates me, says I'm

(33:48):
fake whatever. Um so, where did this start? I'm really
not a certain I I honestly don't know. But I
met the guys at Barstool, like it's probably been back
in two thousand twelve or two thousand thirteen, where Dave
had seen out Kick and he liked what I was
doing and he wanted me to come work at Barstool,
And so that's how I met Dave. I wasn't that

(34:09):
familiar with with Barstool prior to that. Dave reached out
to me and so I got to know him decently
that way through our conversations, and then about two years ago,
he just got incredibly angry and said Oh, you're trying
to steal what I'm doing, like what and And I
don't get it because I've pretty much been the same
person throughout uh and yes and yesterday. This is funny.

(34:32):
He was upset because, uh, we got a I got
an email from his PR team and it said, uh,
high Clay wanted to see if you might be interested
in having Dave Portnoy, the founder of Barstool Sports, on
the show this week for Super Bowl. He was kicked
out of NFL Media Night yesterday, can talk all things
Tom Brady and the Patriots. Let me know asap. He's

(34:52):
currently in Atlanta. And so I loved that because he
won't come on the show. And he's not only that, um,
other than Casey Smith, who's a really good friend to mind.
He won't let barstool people come on the show, and
he won't let me do any barstool things or whatever.
And that's fine. ESPN has done the same thing we're
talking about it earlier, like these feuds, like sometimes I
have not banned anybody from coming on my show, but

(35:12):
they have banned me from coming on their show. And
the only time I've talked to him face to face
in June at the US Open up in Shannika Hills.
I guess they were there and we were doing this show,
and I said, look, I think this. I know you're
mad at me for some reason. I think I think
this is stupid. Uh. You have employed a lot of
people that I like, and I think it makes sense
for you know, us to be able to come on
each other's shows. And he was like, no, I don't

(35:34):
like you, and I was like, all right, And so
he's continued it yesterday. I guess he was talking about it. So,
I mean, you know, I I recognize legitimate hatred and anger. Yes,
I've done it. I've seen it, and I know when
it's not legitimate. I've done that as well. I was
sitting next to a man yesterday who had legitimate hatred
pouring through his blood. This is not. This was not.
It was not. It was not. It was not. This
was not was not Randy Savage. Initially was something going

(35:57):
on here? Initially when he said that he did not
did not like me on social media and whatever. First
of all, I'm almost forty, so this the idea of
a feud with another grown man. But it was pretty
this is what we do, act like you're above that,
of course not. But I thought anything for drama, but
I thought it was w w E like I thought

(36:17):
it was all for show. He legitimately hates me, and
I so you're telling me because I'm gonna have to
go back now and yeah, you're you're the you're the
you're what's the uh Switzerland? Yes, I guess yes. So
so you're telling me that you you have no idea
for this place of legitimate hatred comes from completely true.
I think I think it's business related. Does he think

(36:38):
he claims that you rip him off? But I don't
even understand that because I, first of all, he tried
to hire me to come work at barstool, which is
how I met him, because he liked what I was doing.
And I don't think I've changed, If anything. I think
the criticism you can make about me is that I'm
the same person now as I was when I first
started talking on the radio. Are you politically different? Did

(36:59):
you vote for demock hats in the past and the Republican? Well,
I I have said that openly for Obama. Oh yeah, okay,
Well I don't know this is this is one of
the I I voted for Obama, but I've talked about
that for a long time. And oh, eight and twelve,
and then in sixteen, I did not like Hillary or Trump,
so I voted for the libertarian candidate Gary Johnson. I
worked for Al Gore's presidential campaign in two thousand. I

(37:21):
don't think that I have changed. I think that the
country has gone insane, and I still have the exact
same political opinions that I've always had. Like I mean,
Danny g the producers over there, I don't think I
sound any different now than I have. I've been doing
the show now for four years. Do I sound any different?
You can hop on? Do I sound any different now
than what I sounded like four years ago? No, You're
pretty much the same jerk. Yeah, so I don't. I

(37:42):
don't know. I mean, so, I'm not really sure. And
first of all, like not being mad at somebody because
of their politics, I'm just I'm just I'm just so.
There was a lot of bombs thrown yesterday. I'm trying
to I'm trying to sift through and get to the
room of the truth, because you know, this is an
interest me because it was, as I said, you know,
I've seen Portnoy worked up or he's not really worked up.
He was worked up yesterday from a place where I

(38:03):
was like, cheez, he hates me as much as he
hates Roger Goodell. I think it's I would, but I
was like, he hates this streaming guy. I'm have to
go in here tomorrow. And first of all, going in here,
I thought he was gonna chop my head off. But
I'm like going and find out the root, the root
cause of this hatred. And I haven't. I have failed
in my search so far. Yeah, I mean I legitimately
don't know. And again I thought it like him, I

(38:24):
don't dislike If you like him, I liked him when
we were interacting, and don't normal past tense you don't
like him now? Well I don't really. I mean, he's
constantly the only time I interact with him, I don't
really have a strong opinion. The only time I see
him is when he goes on Twitter and he takes
a shot at what would you would you like somebody
who said this stuff about you? And and did he
blow smoke in your face or whatever? I don't even

(38:45):
know what that means, Like did it happen and we
were on the casting couch a couple of years ago,
and he was vaping, and so he was behind me vaping, like,
did you like this person if you were if you
were Clay? Of course not. But I but I think
if you get somebody so this is my my kind
of larger perspective. If someone is not like doing something

(39:05):
that legitimately bothers me, then I just I just tossed
it off to the side, right Yeah. I got so
many other things that are going on and so many responsibilities.
So the only time I really interact with him is
occasionally when he'll come on and tweet or when people
are like, oh my god, this guy's going off on
you right now. I tendn't think it's good publicity if
somebody hates me. If somebody hates me and wants to
go on and talk every day about how much they
hate me, that's more power to me because you know

(39:27):
what happens. You know this, If seventy people might agree
and be like, you know what, I hate that guy.
He's a jerk of people. If you get ripped end
up going to check you out and they're like, you
know what, I kind of like that guy. Can happen
for sure, so I always think it's good publicity all
the time. We need to get Yeah, we need to
get you on by the way more often now because
I think that'd be a lot of fun um. And

(39:48):
I appreciate you coming up early this morning and joining
us and encourage people and go follow at Kirkman. You
can listen to him this afternoon as he will try
to figure out why why we hate each other or
why I am hated by by Portner Deo duc continuing Uh,
and it'll be a radio dot com ten am starting
in March. Good stuff is all. Appreciate man, This is
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Fox Sports Radio Super Week brought to you by Amazon
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are rolling into our two outkicked the coverage edition here
on Super Bowl a week and did you guys see
we we kind of talked about this a lot going
into uh the uh, going into the show. I feel

(41:17):
like everybody's circled back around to me. When this this
news broke about Anthony Davis and the fact that Anthony
Davis was demanding a trade and he wasn't gonna resign
with the Pelicans, Initially there was a great deal of
optimism from Laker fans, and even in the real time,
I said, this doesn't make a lot of sense. I
don't think that Anthony Davis is behaving in a way
that's really that intelligent. I don't think his representation is

(41:39):
giving him the best possible agenting that they could. And
now he's been fine fifty dollars, which when you make
as much money as him, is about like getting a
parking ticket. Somebody said, if you know you could compared
to the average person who makes fifty dollars a year,
that's like him getting fine. That's like them getting a
seventy eight dollar parking ticket. You might not be happy
about it. It really doesn't impact in the way that

(42:01):
you that you live your life at all. So I
thought that was intriguing in many ways. Um, but uh,
are you now Danny g beginning to come around and say,
you know what, nothing is going to happen between now
and and uh, the actual trade deadline, which is next
next Thursday. And also on top of that that the

(42:22):
Lakers lost another game last night. Is there any update
on when Lebron is actually gonna take the court again? No,
I mean there's still is no definite word on Lebron's return. Now,
Brandon Ingram had a great game. He dropped thirty six
points without Kuzuma, though, uh they couldn't get it done.
So I like the fact that we're showcasing ingram skills

(42:43):
because he has been so up and down and so inconsistent.
He was one of the guys where I said I
would be okay with trading him to get So here's
the problem the Lakers are facing now. They go Saturday,
We'll see whether Lebron comes back. They might do they
have one game left in the month of January or done.
They got one game against the Clippers, theoretically they could win. Uh,

(43:03):
that's a toss up game. And then they go on
the road and they're gonna lose several games. Probably. They
go on the road against the Warriors. That's probably gonna
be a loss, even if Lebron comes back. Uh. I
bet he comes back if I were betting for that game,
because Lebron likes the attention. That's an ABC game. Uh.
Then they go on the road against the Pacers. Maybe
with Oladipo out, they have a chance against the Pacers.
Then they go on the road against the Celtics. They're

(43:25):
gonna probably lose that game. On the road against the
seventies sixer is likely to lose that game. They're likely
to go one in three right before the All Star Break,
probably get a win against the Hawks to go into
the All Star Break. I think it's unlikely they're gonna
be in the playoffs as they go into the All
Star break based on what their next five looks like
or so, why does this matter? Well, they are actually

(43:46):
out of the playoff race by a pretty substantial margin
right now. When you look at the overall standings in
the n B A, UM, I think you start to
get a little bit nervous abou whether or not they're
gonna make the playoffs. I don't think they're gonna be
able to make a big trade lo Walton on the
chopping block. Potentially you have we had yesterday. I thought
it was interesting, um that discussion with Petro's papadecas we

(44:07):
had an hour three he said. More interesting than potentially
the trade is that Luke Walton might be on the
chopping block. Through fifty one games, the Lakers are one
game over five hundred. They have thirty one games remaining.
If I'm doing my math here right, they are two
games out of the playoffs now, and even worse, they're
only a game and a half away from falling to

(44:28):
eleventh place overall in the Western Conference. So I think
it's almost time to hit the panic button there. That's
your update though on what exactly is going on. By
the way, I am deluge. I am deluge right now
with people sending me, uh, the the temperatures and let
me just say, the numbers of you out there in
the grip of the polar vortex is blowing my mind.

(44:49):
How many of you are dealing with as you wake
up across the country this morning, like sub not just
sub zero, but like sub minus twenty. I mean, crazy,
raizy cold. Uh, the likes of which I don't know
that we've ever seen before. Everybody's sending in their their tweets,
from their dashboards and everything else. We mentioned last night
was we're gonna be joined by the way, lots of

(45:10):
guests coming in uh throughout the show. Today is gonna
be a great end of the week here. Yeah, lots
of guests coming in on Thursday and Friday as well.
But last night was the Super Bowl media party and
it was at the Georgia Aquarium and uh we hung
out their credit to Danny g. If you're a listener
for the show for a while, you know that last
year after the Super Bowl party that he was unable Um,

(45:33):
Jason Martin was unable to work because he had too
many drinks. Danny showed up no issues here but when
you break it down, what is I think pretty fascinating
is uh, it was an awesome party. These well sharks,
they were massive. Put up some videos and pictures of
of how amazing that venue was. But I saw a
girl that I was that was angry. So this was

(45:54):
the highlight of the night. Okay, not Wolfgang Puck serving
his own food. Fod uh two media members? That was nothing.
I'm saying that was nothing. Yeah, he was there doing that,
but who cares that you buried the lead at the
very start of the show. This was the highlight of
that NFL get together. So they have like one huge

(46:14):
they have tons of different amazing viewing areas of this
well shark and of this tank and I I can't
tell you. It's probably not a surprise that a whale
shark would be big, that's why it's called the whale shark.
But it is unbelievable how massive this this animal is,
and to be able to see it there in the
Georgia Aquarium was incredible from so many different angles. So

(46:35):
they have a h and it's an open bar as
much food as you can want. Wolf Game Puck is
they're serving his own food, right, Like I mean, it
is a really cool setup at the Georgia Aquarium. You're
at the super Bowl and there is a I it
wasn't a famous guy, but there's somebody playing music, right
Tom Petty, Dave Matthews. He was singing free Falling as
we were standing there watching, which was pretty cool. There's

(46:57):
a huge crowd of people, everybody's having a great time time.
And as we're walking downstairs in this huge venue with
this whale shark behind us, I see this girl leaning
up against the wall and she just has like a
total resting bitch face and she was angry, right, And
so me, being the nice guy that I am, I'm like,
why why are you so angry? And she's like, I

(47:19):
don't like when people point out that I'm angry. I
was like, well, it's obvious that you're angry, and she said,
well the fish are being oppressed. Wait before that, though,
what were the first words out of her? I don't
even remember what did she say. So, so when you
first walked up to her, because we were we were
going down the little ramp and she standing was clearly
self evidently angry, right, like arms crossed, resting bitch face,

(47:41):
and I was like this is like, you have free alcohol,
you got free food, you got this whale shark swing
and swimming. It's a super Bowl. This guy's playing free
music like everybody else seems like they're in a good mood. So,
being a nice guy that I am, I asked her
what's the matter before you asked her that I don't
even remember, said hi to her. And when you looked
at her and said hi, and I guess you seem
too happy to her, Roberto, you have that bleep because

(48:03):
she said f you. Oh she immediately said She immediately
said f you to you, which I think a lot
of people want to do to you something. Well, you
had just said high at that point. Yeah, I don't
and I said hi to a lot of people, by
the way, at the it was an awesome venue, and
I tend to be a pretty easy going, relaxed guy.
So uh, that was her immediate response. And so you

(48:25):
did a double tick. You were like, what he did?
You say? And then you repeated it and she's like
I did, and then that's when you jumped into the
So I like awkward conversations, um, and so especially if yeah,
if you listen to this show, especially if like that
girl hated me from the from the opening of the conversation,
so I was just kind of curious where the conversation
was going to go and why she was so angry.

(48:47):
Um and ultimately like and this is within thirty or
forty five seconds of of her being angry, she is
telling me that she's angry because the fish and the
aquarium are oppressed. Oppressed as the word that she used.
I say, you you think that that well shark is oppressed.
She was like, yes, it's horribly oppressed. A said, why
did you come to the Georgia Aquarium if you believe

(49:08):
that there's oppression going on here. This is like my
issue with Lebron James saying like, oh my god, all
the NFL players are slaves and then he goes and
watches the Rams and the Cowboys playoff game. It's like,
you can't say that all the NFL players are slaves
and then go watch them. Like if if you're opposed
to slavery back in the day, I bet you didn't
show up in the fields and watch everybody pick cotton

(49:30):
and eat popcorn, right like, you don't go get entertained
by the slaves. So I'm like, well, if you think
the fish is a press oppressed like in the tank here.
Why did you come to the aquarium like right? That
would seem to me to be the equivalent of lebron
go into the game if you're upset and so uh
and so she was really angry and then you took
her picture, which made her even angry. I can't tweet

(49:51):
out the picture, but she was so angry that you
took her picture. Oh, she was about to suck you,
which I thought she might hit me, which wulde the
picture taking even that much more uh impressive. So I
barely got the shot in. And then she gave you
the ice girl. No if you take a picture, and
I swear I thought she was gonna knock you in
your Adam's apple. But now from this point on, Clay,

(50:11):
if you ever irritate the staff, we don't even have
to say bleep you to you. I'm just gonna text
you that picture, uh, because forever now that's gonna be
the picture picture. The picture is actually decent other than
the angry girl in it, because the whale shark is
in the background and it's a pretty amazing like venue
I was blown away by if I blur her face
a little bit. Can I tweet it? I need to

(50:32):
look at the picture again. Um, but she was so
angry and I don't understand it. I guess again it
was the fish being a pressed. The picture is great
because you look super happy, like your five drinks in
and she looks like she is watching an oppressed whale shark.
Can you be an oppressed animal? I feel like oppression
typically doesn't go not in a tank that size. It's

(50:53):
not like he was in a little fish tank. Yeah, okay,
Well I have a problem visiting the l A Zoo
sometimes because the last time I went, the tigers were
in this tiny little sliver. They didn't even have room
to run, and it bothered me. It really did. When
I was leaving, I was like, damn, they need to
build them a bigger, you know area. Now. It wasn't
like this at the aquarium. That tank was huge. I'm

(51:14):
talking the size of a football field. The picture is
but yeah, you can tweet this out if you blow
her face. I have no idea who she was, but
the picture is amazing because the whale shark is staring
directly into everybody's soul. Right. It's well framed. Now, just
blur out her whole face. It's a girl. I don't
think we need to see her face. She probably doesn't
even know how you remember saying to you as her

(51:36):
initial as her initial introduction, greeting to you. Well, I
said hi. Walking down the stairs. She's leaning up against
the wall, angry at the world. I said hi, and
she said f you. And then I was like, well,
I gotta figure out what's going on with this conversation.
I think, honestly, she probably liked me. I think she
probably did. All right, I'm sure we're gonna come back.
We're gonna be joined. We're gonna be joined by Pat McAfee,

(51:56):
who has got a really cool we're gonna do a
contest my book. He does a advertisements on this show,
not surprisingly, Uh if you listen to the show regularly,
and we're gonna do a Super Bowl prop contest where
you can win. I believe the number is uh thousand dollars.
I've got the email in front of me, which will
be really fun. We're gonna pick ten different things. I see.

(52:18):
Jeff Shortz has just arrived. He was supposed to be
here at the top of the hour, right, so he's
managed to show up fifteen minutes late and he's telling
me to do something that is not very enjoyed with
his Uh yeah, he's helped me. Yeah. Uh so he'll
be joining us here after the after the break, I think, right,
what time are you supposed to be on? Oh, he's
not supposed to be on his still eight? Oh so

(52:39):
he's he's here early. He's going to other other media.
Then all right, so we'll have Jeff Shorts on here
a lie, we'll talk to Pat McAfee and we're gonna
be joined by Denver Bronco running back Philip Lindsay all
that in the the next what hour forty five of
the show. So much to be paying attention to, much
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that all goes. We're joined now by Pat mc mccaffee.
McAfee got already screwed up that. So this is good.
This is a problem is I'm trying to read. It's
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Pat mc McAfee, chee unbelievable. You ever had somebody go

(55:09):
over to well and then you had to pat yourself
on the back like I have so many ads. I
have to say my name wrong, and then you brag
about how rich you are in the first thirty seconds
I'm here. This is it's an honor to be. Most
people would think, like, this is a really awkward start
to the conversation, but this is so much better. We
were talking off the air than the conversation that I
had with that girl last night at the at the aquarium. Yeah,
I literally started with f you. I love that though,

(55:31):
by the way, because I was going to ask you
boring this. I've never met you, efficient right, I've seen
you on the internet. Yes, I enjoy the way you
go about handling your business. I think it's an we've
never met, but I also have impressed by by what
you've done. So yeah, you've got a nice beard. But
everybody always has an opinion of Clay Travis. And then
as soon as I sit here, I hear the story

(55:53):
of you going to try to enjoy a whale shark class.
It was unbelievable, the whale shark and the Georgia Aquarium.
And then the lady just popped off and said she
hated everything about your soul. Basically like, well, Clay, this
is like something I was going to ask about and
it just got thrown into it. Yeah, And she said
in addition to the fact that f you to start
the conversation, she said also that that she was not
happy to be at the aquarium because all the fish

(56:14):
were oppressed, And I was like, I'd never really have
put the word oppression in conjunction with a fish before,
but now that I think about it, like the oppressed
fish would be an amazing band name or something, right
if you were if you were out there trying to
think of a name for your band, your high school
kid going to school this morning, like, there you go,
the oppressed fish. You can assite me when you come Superstars. Well,
I think any time you throw fish in there, like
Hoodie Hoodian, a blowfish is a wordable name. Yes, fish

(56:37):
is something you can tag at the end of any
band name, and it's normally gonna do well for you.
But you also got to think those oppressed fish, those
fish are doing a life sentence in there, you know
what I mean. They don't get back out. Nobody thinks
about that whale shark being in there for his entire
life in there unless you get a NEMO situation where
they escape. Um, you know they had that that that's
a great movie, but but other outside of the film
universe very unlikely. Uh So you live in Biannapolis for

(57:00):
people who don't know you. You are a punter we have.
Brett Kern is a good friend of mine. He loves
you like you're You're always out there for the brand. Today,
let's start this because they always get upset if I
don't do it. Do you hear for Buffalo Wild Wings. Yeah,
Buffalo Wild Wings has asked me to come chit chat
about what they have going on. And basically, if the
Rams and Patriots goes over overtime, which is what we're
all banking on happening, NFC game, a FC game once overtime. Now,

(57:24):
if the big one goes to overtime, Buffalo Wild Wings
is giving out free wings to America. And that is,
honestly something I think everybody can get behind. Whether you
love Tom Brady or hate him, whether you think the
twelve year old McVeigh is gonna do well or not.
I think the free wings opportunity everybody should be banking
on overtime. And that's what we're here for, just to
spread awareness that there's some free damn wings on the
line here whenever these two teams step on the field. Now,

(57:46):
you've got a beard a little bit like me, but
you don't have sleeves on, right, now, And I gotta
be honest, you got a little Cobra Kai Look going here,
Johnny with if you didn't have the beard, you'd have
a definite Johnny from Karate Kid, Look going here. See
I've never seen the move v. You've never seen Kari Kid,
not once in my life. But I the kid did
the thing, the crane thing. I get it. Why you

(58:06):
haven't watched Karate Kids. So when I was a child,
I've been learning this with my adventures with my friends
on my show, so we do a lot of talking
about obviously relevant things. My childhood, I had such bad
a d D. I think, like, you wouldn't watch movies,
no way, I got. I had no time for that.
I honestly have no clue how anybody did it. And
I I know that I've missed an entire chapter of

(58:28):
my life. You gotta go back in time and just
look at all this. So that's one of the great
things I've got three boys is taking them back and
watching you know, the Back to the Future movies, like
all of the movies that I grew up watching, including
Karate Kids. They love them like they think the nineties
is the greatest time on the planet, right and it's
really cool to see through their eyes again and also
recognize how awesome so many of those movies are. So Oh,

(58:50):
they have an unbelievable life. I'm jealous of my kids.
I'm jealous of my kids and my wife. They have
unbelievable gigs. The thing about your kids is they aren't
oppressed fish, so they're gonna live a great life. It's
gonna be a good news everywhere. And they don't They
can leave right, They don't have to stay with the
same place their entire life. Now. I always curious with kickers,
when did you recognize that you had a powerful leg?
So it's like when you were like five, were you

(59:12):
like I could kick the ball a lot better than
anybody else. Yeah, So in soccer I always had a
stronger leg than anybody else, just naturally. Yeah, so that
instead of watching movies and all that stuff. When I
was a kid, I would, honestly, my hobby was to
kick a soccer ball against the side of my house.
So to drive your parents crazy. They yeah, I drove
them crazy, but it got me out of the house.
They hadn't listened to a thump. But it was nice
to not have me around. I think for a long time.
And uh, whenever I was a teenager, I was playing

(59:34):
in a soccer game, was indoor soccer game. It's called
foot salt, and the ball is a little bit heavier, right,
so it's like a smaller ball, it's a little heavier.
I broke the goalie's arm right with a shot right bing, bang, boom,
And I think that was really the day that everybody
was like, this kid's leg is pretty strong. And then
kind of one thing moved to another, and the first
time I kicked a football, I kicked a six yard
field goal, and then it was just kind of from there.

(59:54):
It was business decision, yeah, with my family, like instead
of playing soccer, let's focus on taking three steps and
making money as opposed to seven miles. So that was
kind of the decision. I got real lucky. So did
you start playing in high school? Did? Yeah? Junior year
of Uh, and you never played football before that? Now?
And I never went to practices either, because soccer was
supposed to be the thing I was supposed to play soccer.
I got had a lot more universities in colleges looking

(01:00:16):
at me for soccer than for football. I wouldn't go
to practice and to show up like with the fans
on Friday's Kick. Our football team wasn't great, but I
generated a little bit of interest. Went to a college
kicking camp after my senior year, made a sixty five
yard field goal, missed a seventy yard field goal wide right.
The next day, I had a offer to West Virginia
University in my cafeteria of high school and I was like, yep,

(01:00:38):
I heard it's a great time in Morgantown, which I
enjoyed having, and uh, they offered me first car shop.
Did you ever burn a couch? Oh? Yeah, yeah, we
want a luck like there was a lot of celebrating there.
There was a lot of celebratings and I was a
very small factor on a very good team, so I
got to reap the benefits of like Pat White and
Steve Slayton being incredible football players. Did you overlap with

(01:00:59):
pack and at all? Pacman was the year before me,
but he used to come back and train in the summer,
so I know the Pac band pretty well. Yeah. So
I always think of Morgantown, West Virginia, which is an
awesome place, and I think we're on there as well.
I always think it as like dead Wood, right, Like
it's like this crazy hidden place, like the idea that
Chris Henry and Pacman Jones were there, and basically, I

(01:01:19):
know they gotten a little bit of trouble, but didn't
get in that much trouble and then they suddenly emerged
like their dead bodies just buried on the hills outside
of Morgantown. Right. I'm not sure that I could have
looked like a dead body on a few occasions Inantown.
But I have not seen Deadwood. But I get it
dead Wood. I'm assuming it's bodies in the woods, but
actually I don't have a lot of woods on Deadwood.

(01:01:40):
It's uh, it's awesome. They're making a movie now. Al
you watch television? Now? Are you watching? Now? Are you
used to? You know what I mean? I dive into
some stuff. I saw that Ted Bundy tapes. How is that?
It was interesting? I haven't watched it. Terrible human man,
It's been interesting how the pop culture has talked about
Ted Bundy. But I watched a lot of documentaries. Have
you watched the Fire Festival? Oh yeah, come on, Billy
mc marland, let's go. How about Andy King? By the way,

(01:02:02):
that guy is a real one. He was a loyal guy.
Anything for water, for Billy McFarland, you got to really
respect that. What's amazing to me about the Netflix and
how some of these documentaries take off is suddenly it
seems like everybody has seen them. So last night, even
at the at the at the media party, the number
of people who were talking about the Fire Festival documentary
blew my mind. And it's just crazy how something could take,

(01:02:23):
you know, go viral like that in terms of watching
a documentary, which I don't remember growing up. I think
we all remember when that Fire Festival promotion started, right Like,
I have a guy who works for me who wanted
to He was like trying to do things to earn
a ticket to go to Yeah, because he was all
about the social media influencers. For people who don't know,
this took place in the Bahamas and it was gonna
be this huge concert and it was almost entirely on

(01:02:46):
a private island, almost entirely promoted through Instagram like influencers
like but A Hot Chicks basically basically that's all. It
was sports illustrated models and i G influencers, And I
had a guy in my office that wanted to go
and I like, I don't know, I didn't I don't
know if I didn't want to pay for him to
go or what happened. Something happened. So whenever through I

(01:03:07):
was so upset that he wasn't there, Like whenever there
was like videos of people like stranded, Yes, these rich
white kids stranded on him on the island in the Bahamas,
that losing their minds on social media, which is how
it went viral again when it didn't actually end up happening.
So then getting a peek behind that. I think everybody
is interested in the documentaries. We're in a documentary era
right now because it's easy to make, it's cheap, and

(01:03:28):
people want to know more about more things, and it's
like a woke society. Lest yeah, crazily uh. And when
I was growing up, press press fit um. When I
was growing up, like the only real documentary I remember
is Hoop Dreams right there. I mean, you didn't see
documentaries maybe like Fahrenheit nine eleven or something like that.
Like there are a couple of them that have gotten
a lot of attention, but by and large, but now
with the Netflix and and everything else, it's like they

(01:03:49):
take off and everybody suddenly is talking about it. So
I'm sure a lot of people listening to us right
now have seen that documentary. Um, what do you do now?
So you had your So you go to West Virginia.
You have an incredible average, and I was pretty good.
I had a really strong like I wasn't great. So
what percentage of kicks would you make? Seven? I think
I was like seventy four or seventy five, seventy three
maybe I was in that area there. I really strong, like,

(01:04:11):
had no clue where the hell it was, really like
a driver who like in golf, who can get up
in the tea box and you're gonna crush it, but
you have no idea where it's gonna Yeah, And I
started literally from my freshman year of first game, so
I went straight through. So the people of West Virginia
had to really go through some ebbs and flows with me,
which I appreciate them for. But I started punting my
last two years there. But it was the college rollout punt,

(01:04:32):
so we catched the ball. I didn't know how to punt.
I would just run to this, yes exactly, try to
get the ball in the ground and just had let
it roll right He's gonna hit it as hard as
I can and hope it rolls. Uh. And then Bill
Polian said that he thought he could, like it was
athletic enough to figure out how the NFL punt, which
is just two steps. Yeah, he said, I think you're
athletic enough to figure it out. I was like, well,

(01:04:52):
we're gonna find out. I mean, there's a nightmare decision
for him. So I got drafted in the seventh round
and then a year later and make the team and
I'm kicking off the Super Bowl and I have no
clue what the hell I'm doing. There was no reason
for me to be there. And then I just kind
of worked, enjoyed my time, and got really lucky to
play eight years there. So I think it was Vanderjack,
like Peyton Manning called of an idiot or whatever it was.

(01:05:13):
Did he ever insult you or with Did you have
a better relationship as a punter with Peyton man I
knew going in there after Vanderjack messed that up the relationship.
I was like, Okay, here we go. Vanderjak went to
West Virginia. I went to West Virginia. I like to drink.
Vanderjack likes to drink. I knew I was coming in
with a couple of strikes against me, but he enjoyed me.
I think I think Peyton enjoyed me a little bit.
Hey he uh, he was the perfect teammate, to be

(01:05:34):
honest with you. He when I was a rookie, he
would take me to places like Peyton Manning has taken
me to places. It was stupid. It was just the
dumbest thing ever. I was at a Tennessee game with
Peyton Manning, Bruce Pearl, pat and uh, the president of
Tennessee was there, and I was there with Peyton and
like Anthony Gonzalez, who's now a sitting senator, and it

(01:05:54):
was like I was a rookie. I was say, there's
no reason I'm supposed to be here black and Chuck
beers pretty well. People found that impressive. I was like
a dancing monkey for people, and I was completely okay
with me. What game did you go to? Do you remember?
It was a kickoff. It was the first game of
the year. Uh, it was probably two thousand it was
two thousand nine, I don't remember what it was, but
the place was incredible, absolutely incredible. I got to talk

(01:06:14):
to the kickers before the game. On the field, it
was really just a It was cool and Peyton was
way too nice to me. He shouldn't have been as
nice to me as he was. Um, how much did
you enjoy being in the NFL? Like? And I would
like to ask like people who were involved in special teams,
because your experience is a lot different than the other guys. So, uh,
when you were actually in the NFL, were you like

(01:06:35):
this is amazing. I love every minute of it. What
was your experience like? Yeah, I mean I had a
lot of fun. Man. The NFL was incredible to me.
Obviously paid very well. I got to take care of
my family, my friends, everybody was supposed to I got
a chance and experience a lot of really cool things.
And then towards the ends, like the first five six years,
I loved every day getting to work. I loved getting
better at what I was doing. There was only thirty

(01:06:56):
two people who had my job, so I was enjoying it.
I was getting good, getting very confident. And then I
started hating going to work. I just was sick of it,
you know, I was. And what changed, Well, I mean
the GM hated me, right, So the GM was not
a fan of mine. He didn't what he didn't like
because off the field when he got there, I didn't
even drink anymore because I had already gotten arrested. He
didn't like the way my Twitter was, So I was

(01:07:16):
basically at this point the voice of the Colts in Indianapolis.
My Twitter was large after I got into an alleged
incident Clay. The cops have their story, I have mine.
It was public intoxication. The city and state of India,
the city of Indianapolis, state of Indiana kind of got
behind me and my Twitter started slowly growing and growing.
And then when the new regime came in, they cut
Peyton Manning, they cut everybody. So the only person people

(01:07:38):
that really stayed around where me, even a Terry Robert Mathis,
Reggie Wayne, Anthony Gastanzo, and none of them were that
active on social media. So I was literally the biggest
platform coming out of the Colts and then they were
the new GM did not like that I was potentially
a voice of anybody of that building, and I mean
it was it was very It wasn't just him. I
mean I had three knee surgeries in like four years

(01:07:59):
on my knees because they were kind of getting worn out.
It was just a lot of things. I was falling
in love with what was happening off the field. I
was doing stand up, I was doing a lot of
philan philanthropic stuff. It was just I I just didn't
enjoy going to work to kick balls in four towns anymore.
So I just was like, you know what, here we go.
If people are enjoying this interview, they can find you
wear on Twitter. Uh it's it's not worth it. It's

(01:08:20):
don't follow. We have too many. Uh No, it's at
Pat McFie show, and it's I used to be better
on there when I was smaller, I was better. Now
you get nervous. Now you overthink it or what do
you do now? You can't really do much interacting because
everything whenever you're and I'm sure you get young about this.
So if I respond to somebody who like, I used
to enjoy when people would like talk trash to me,

(01:08:40):
so that because I wouldn't because as a punter, you
can't talk trash. There's so when I was playing soccer,
I could talk trash. When I was playing pick up basketball,
when I was a kid, I could talk trash when
I'm not can I can't trash talk anybody. Literally, there's
nobody I could try. I am the bottom of the
totem pole in the National Football League. So Twitter was
like my escape, Like, okay, so if this guy chirps
at me, I could chirp in back. Now I can't

(01:09:00):
even do that. I can't really because once I go
after somebody, I have the best people in the world
follow me. They feel like they got attack, and now
I'm the bad guy. So it's like it kind of
when I was smaller, was a lot more fun. But
now I just kind of what my observations are in
life and enjoy it. Pat McAfee show went out of
This caffee show too, Pat mccaffee show, unbelievable to you play.

(01:09:23):
You came in here, just dumped right on my face. Unbelievable. So, uh,
In addition to this, you're doing a lot of stuff
I think I have. I need to look up this email.
I think we're doing a prop contest. Have you heard
about this? Were you informed on this old prop contest?
I'm trying to pull it up and the wife. You
would think, of all places they would have incredible WiFi here,

(01:09:46):
it's nowhere near the polar vortex over there in America.
It's like negative fifty in some place. Yeah, I know,
we had people calling in this morning. We're trying to
figure out who the coldest was. My heart is with you.
But Atlanta is nowhere near southern happy warm race. We
had to walk four miles get here. It is cold outside,
it's it's brutal. You know. They shut down schools yesterday
because they thought it was gonna snow. I respect that.

(01:10:06):
I respect that a lot to shut her down. John
Taffer in Atlanta, they were preparing, all right, so here,
we're gonna do these quickly? All right? Is that the
way we're supposed to do it? National Anthem? You going
over over? Alright? Somebody keep tracking, keep track on these days. Well.
I do believe though that studies, like people that have
been watching film on her, I've been saying the under
is the smart bet. But I think the moment might

(01:10:28):
get sore, shouldmight carry out a see you know what
I mean? And I think it's gonna be over strictly
for America. My bookie prop contest here point toss which
way you're going? Heads man? Always heads? Do you ever
get to call the toss one time, would you go
with you win? Well? With heads? Did you win? Yeah? Yeah?
I felt really good about it too. I mean that
was the first time I was allowed to speak. Basically,

(01:10:49):
it was a fun moment. What is the best hit
you ever put on somebody as a punter? Was there
one guy with the trend in holiday? Hit is the
biggest because it was when Peyton came back as the
Broncos that Sunday night football is being viewed as like
a playoff game. It was big numbers, huge hit, terrible
field position. So I didn't do my job well at all,
but I tackled trending holiday that blew up. But before
the social media phase, like back in college, I was

(01:11:11):
like two forty. We're playing against like Eastern Washington, like
some of these little kids and some of the returners
are small. I used to catch some people. I used
to really get some people. Whenever they didn't think I
was ever get a concussion, I assume I didn't. I
didn't wear my strap, I didn't wear the strap underneath,
and I had terrible tackling for him. So I'm assuming
that something my noggin has at least been knocked a

(01:11:32):
couple of times. Uh first half spread. You think the
is crazy stat and the Patriots have only scored three
points in the first quarter in their eight Super Bowls
so far. The Patriots are a half point first half
spread favored according to this. I like I like the
Patriots in the first half. I like the Patriots in
the second half, But most importantly, I like the Patriots
in overtime because if this game goes overtime, Clay Buffalo

(01:11:55):
wild Wings, free Wings in two sundays from now. I
like the Patriots Brady do you like him to have
a lot of passing yard? Know? One thirty nine and
a half in the first half, they got that three
headed monster in the backfield, and I honestly think if
they can get that moving somehow against that stout d line,
I think it's gonna be under. I think they're gonna
be handing the rock off in the first half and
then let Tom Brady take in the second half. What
once they see what the defense is doing, Uh total

(01:12:17):
punts seven a half under. I think it's gonna be
So what about the fifty seven yard What do you
think about the miscall? By the way, you were if
you were on the Saints. How sick would you be? Well,
I mean, you've gotta be disgusted, especially after the Minnesota
miracle happened in Minneapolis miracle happened the year before. That's

(01:12:38):
Drew Brees. I think was about to call it a day,
like he hit every single record. Yeah, I think he
was about done. He was doing a lot more of
that shoulder shrug. At the end of the year he
had every single record. I assume that this was gonna
be his last run. And even if they maybe even
if they just lose that game out right, potentially his
last run. But after the miracle to Stefon Diggs and
then the bird box situation with them FS, I have

(01:13:00):
no idea how Drew Brees he has to come back.
It just has to be unsettling as a Saints fair
How often are you up early in the morning. I
waked up pretty early. You want to come on the
show regularly because I think people would enjoy it, Sharon Man,
you just get ahold of me? All right, we'll do
that for sure. I'm gonna go get an update from
my guy, Eddie Garcia. That's been outstanding. But Eddie, what
you got for me? Got a guy go scoreboard for you.
We'll give you some games of note from the NBA

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(01:14:49):
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That should all go well, Uh, just f y, I
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(01:15:12):
s R to listen live. Well back out Kick Studios.
Jeff Swartz can put his head to set on. He's
gonna join us here shortly. Uh, I just tried to sneeze,
and I was trying to do the thing and everybody
tells you to sneeze into your elbow so you don't
sneeze into your hand anymore. And I missed my elbow
and I just sneezed all over him. You're endearing yourself
to everybody, every lessive feback. Even though I couldn't pronounce

(01:15:35):
Pat McAfee's name correctly when he was on the air,
Lots of great feedback on that. Um, I think that
hopefully we can get him set up to come on
with us weekly. You can. By the way, I always
say this, but if you want to tag any of
our guests on Twitter and tell them you appreciate them
or you loved him on the show or whatever, it
does make a big difference. Uh, it's just Mike on.

(01:15:56):
I don't think it shorts as Mike is on. Are
you your Mike on? Can you hear yeah, let's see
talk right in. I don't think it's mic on. This
is how we're We're a high we're a higher high
class show here. You would think where did our guy
The one time that our our tech guy is not
sitting here, he didn't tell us he was leaving or anything.
Now I can hear you, but our tech guy leaves

(01:16:18):
the one time we need him for five days and
he and he failed on us. Um But you know what,
I don't even know what to say, so I apologize
for sneezing on you. But Pat mack McAfee, I think
it's gonna be really good. You know what we'll do.
We'll do the Animal Thunderdome to start off our three,
and we'll by that time, hopefully our guy will be
back and we'll be able to have three working microphones

(01:16:39):
as opposed to only two. I can't believe it. That
guy literally has been sitting there every minute that we've
been on the show so far this week, and the
one time we actually need him to be here, he's
just gone and he didn't tell us he was leaving.
So I don't know where he is. Elijah, do you
know where he went? Did he say anything to you. No,
I didn't say anything. Anybody just left. There's a lot
of cords down there. There are a lot of your job.

(01:17:00):
I don't have any idea. No, Dad, Now this is
this is above Danny's pay grade. He's decent at tech,
but not the high level tech um. So you can
call India, can you believe Yeah, we can call India.
Can you believe that that that chick at the at
the So for people who don't know, first of all,
I invited you to go to the Super Bowl media party,

(01:17:20):
I texted you, and instead you went to sleep. I
went to dinner. Have you changed your hair color? Are
you dying? Now? You look a little bit different color?
I think like darker or like redder? Am I dying? Yeah?
I mean are you dying your hair? Oh? No, I
don't know. I thought you mean I'm actually no, no,
not Are you dying? Like? Are you are you juicing?
It looks like your hair color looks different. So I

(01:17:41):
did start taking a propitia. Oh so maybe that's it
because your hair is it working? I don't know. I
was in a germatologist getting looked at for other stuff,
and he looked at my hair and goes and goes,
you're too young to be losing hair. What do you mean?
You just know, here's a here's superscription, just take it.
So what do you do? Is that a pill? Yeah?
Just a pill? Can you tell a difference? But I

(01:18:02):
don't know. I can't see the top of my head.
I'm six six, I don't care. Yeah, we're talking to
Jeff Shorge. You can follow him on Twitter at Jeff Shorts.
He comes on the show weekly, usually as kids are
in the background yelling uh, and this time instead I am,
I am, I am sneezing. We're about to tweet out
that you want to tweet that picture out? Danny g
is gonna tweet the picture out. So we're at the

(01:18:23):
super Bowl UH party last night, the media party, and
there there's an incredible well shark. It's at the Georgia Aquarium.
It's an incredible place, like it's phenomenal, and I see
an angry girl as we're walking out. They got a
guy like playing Dave Matthews band. He's playing like Tom
Tom Petty's got a guitar. Everybody's drinking. There's an open
bar is a huge well shark. It's a phenomenal scene. Right,

(01:18:45):
you should be in a pretty good mood. They had
what's the guy's name who was serving his own food
wolf game, Wolf Game, puck is they're serving his own
food for free, right, So I mean it's crazy, and
this chick is mad and angry, and so I can
tell that she's angry, So I I'd like to lean
into awkward situations sometime. So as we're walking down the stair,
I just said hi, and she immediately responded, f you.

(01:19:07):
That was her first response to me, and she did
not know who you are. I don't think she knew
who I was because you don't get that response from
actual people like in social media you do, but not
in real life. No. Well, I talked to her. She
wouldn't have said f you unless I had talked her.
And I was like, wow, you're in a bad mood.
She's like, how do you know I'm in a bad mood?
And I was like, I can just see it. And
then she ended up telling like our conversation went on,
Danny took a picture of her, which she wasn't happy about,

(01:19:30):
but she eventually said she was in a bad mood
because I swear to god, she said, the fish are oppressed.
You're in an aquarium, she said, the fish are pressed.
And I was like, well, if you think this is oppression,
shouldn't you not have come to the aquarium because you
are aiding and abetting the oppression by coming here and
you know, like standing in front of this aquarium. She said, uh.

(01:19:52):
She was not happy with that. She was like, you're
a You're a douche bag. And I said, I'm just
I'm just following the logical extension of your anger and
I want to make you not as angry. And then
she and then eventually like Danny thought she was gonna
hit me. Um, so so we decided to leave, but
we're gonna tweet out her picture with her with her
face scrubbed out. I have no idea who she was,
no idea who she was where she worked, but her

(01:20:14):
initial introduction to me was fu and the fish were
being oppressed. So she was very woke. It is woke
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We've had a loaded and fun show. Encourage you to
go download the podcast. We started off with Kirk Menahan

(01:21:20):
uh formerly of w e I Good Stuff talking Brady
and the Patriots. There we brought Inpact Pat McAfee show
McAfee show, Why might screwing up his name anyway? He
was awesome. Appreciate all of you tagging him on Twitter
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can go tag at Kirkman as well. Now we're joined
by Jeff Schwartz. We will talk with Philip Lindsay Denver

(01:21:40):
Broncos running back later, but as we as we dive
in here, Roger Goodell, I believe, is having his media
availability today, right it will all be centered and focused
on the play between the Rams and the Page, the
Rams and the Saints that was blowing the blown call
that put the Rams in the Super Bowl. Jeff, do

(01:22:00):
you agree that Roger Goodell should have addressed this already?
I don't think so, because what would what what would
have done? I think it would have ended the story
on some level. I think it would have made it
worse because if if you say in the press or
which which is what he would have said. I heard
you talk about what he should have said, but what
he would have said was we made a mistake, will
be better essentially what he would have said. They're working

(01:22:22):
to spend the official problem because you don't know if
that's his first second mistake, and they all make mistakes, right,
So without suspending the official or without announcing some sort
of makeup situation, everyone be upset about it. But we
we know, we know the call was missed. It was
clearly missed day, have col Sean Payne, They've all told
me he was missed. I think he's waiting to do
it today. He'll answer the questions today and be done

(01:22:44):
with it. That will clearly be the primary focus of
his I think if he had said put out a
statement on Monday or Tuesday of last week, I think
the amount of questions that he would have to answer
would be relatively minimal in the grand scheme of things.
But if, if, what if he puts out a statement
Monder Tuesday says we missed the call. We're not just

(01:23:04):
spending anybody. I think the outrage grows potentially. I mean,
I mean like that. That's kind of my point is
like they're not gonna suspend an official or they're not
gonna fire them. Obviously probably would have done it already.
There's no point in making it. We know it's a
miscall we know it was, and look, maybe it dies
down and maybe the Saints, the players stop complaying. It's
there statute limitations, by the way, how long they can
complain about this. No, I think it will exist forever

(01:23:25):
for Saints fans, and it's certainly gonna exist forever for
me because I lost almost, but that's that's your fault. Um,
I can't Oh man, my wife, oh boy, if I
lost that much money, I can't wait be something bad.
It wasn't good for me was that I could never
complain about any money she spends for the rest of
our marriage. I mean we've been married fifty years. That's

(01:23:46):
the worst thing a man can hear. That is the
word saying, hey, look, I didn't spending money like a
drunken sailor and you can't say anything about It's the
worst thing that could happen. If you look at the
totality of the game, which is what players do, right,
we look at the whole game. There were playing opportunities
where the Saints could have won that game outside of
that play, specifically, Sean Payton should not have uh throwing
the ball on the front the outs left and you

(01:24:10):
take a field goal. If you watch inside the NFL,
UH this week and they go to the sidelines or
last week whenever it was, and Sean Payt says we're
gonna be aggressive, and jew brees just like yes, I
was like, why do you start a coach like let's
just let's run the ball, and thinking about this, you
have Jared Goff and his first major road playoff game,
first major ahead trouble with the noise all day, one
minute left, needing a field goal in the Super Dome,

(01:24:31):
no time outs, go I think you would take that
dred percent of the time instead. Yeah, you're you're opting
to be aggressive and in the game right there. And
I get all that, but look at this risk reward thing.
Interesting with analytics being in football now, it's like we're
dissecting little risks here and there, like by one two
percentage points. I don't know. I think conventional football works
at times, and conventionally speaking, you run the ball three times,

(01:24:53):
get your good offensive line. Rams are twenty rushing defense
running the football three times to see what happens. So
obviously we got as a result, the Patriots going up
against Is there a robot here? Is that a robot
thing coming? It's a robot though, right, just rolling around
with pat That's pretty smart. They just got a free
plug advertising wise because they brought a robot to radio Row.

(01:25:15):
I'm impressed. So, uh, sorry I got distracted there. Um
So if you think about this game between the Rams
and UH and the and the Patriots, right Super Bowl
fifty three is does this change anything about Tom Brady's
legacy if he wins this Super Bowl or he loses
it versus I would argue, Look, if Jared Goff and

(01:25:35):
Sean McVeigh win a super Bowl, it changes everything about
their careers. I don't really know that Brady and Belichick
and the Patriots, whether they win or lose, we change
what we think about them that much. None zero. Tom
Brady can end up five and four if four and
lost the same as Jim Kelly, and no one would
care because he wont he won five, no one would care.
But it's funny with Lebron James. It's like he lost

(01:25:56):
six and he's the worst player. You can't compare him
to Jordan because he lost you. But we don't care
about braty five super Bowls, four losses whatever. You're right
if if golf were to win and then they were
when first of all golf would change a near about
him is maybe like a game manager could be a champion,
And then then you know there's always a question about
is he really a wonder kid? Is it? Is it golf?
And like what is it? And if you win the

(01:26:16):
Super Bowl? Beating Bill Belichick and they'na to do something.
They're gonna have to do different things this week to
beat them. Uh there, I mean, you're gonna hire anyone
who ever talked to mcveighn. So who do you think
wins this game? Um? So if you see, here's my argument.
If you take away if you just put the average
quarterback that has played like Tom Brady this year, right,

(01:26:38):
and if you just pretend that it's not the Patriots
and you put the Patriots, you would think would But
we thought that with a Charger's Patriots game without the Chiefs. PA.
I heard you bet against your brothers and secretly you
were at that Chiefs game and it was like, how
so you were confident that the Patriots are gonna win
even though your brothers on the offensive line. Yea for
the Chiefs. Yeah. Nothing with my brother I just in

(01:27:00):
the way the same way I felt about about the
Chargers and Patriots game, Like this underdog thing they're doing,
it's working, whatever it is, and that that And I
told people this all week. It worried the heck out
of me that this they take this mentality because it's
just need a little edge sometimes and this was their
edge and I thought the Chiefs defense would finally get exposed,
and it did. Yeah, I bet I bet on the
Patriots on the money line that game. There's been a

(01:27:21):
lot of talk about the blown call, how dumb was
lining up off sides and then he lined up off sides.
I saw the Pro Bowl. Supposedly he got back on
side to the Pro Bowl. I saw the picture that
he was off. I would never line up on sites
for the rest of my career if I cost my
treatment trip to the Super Bowl. And I'm not talking
about somebody drawing you offside just trying to play aggressively.

(01:27:44):
I mean you would literally line up off sides like
you couldn't look at the ball and be like, oh,
I'm even with the ball. And he didn't even get
to the quarterback. He didn't impact the matter. So here's
the thing. The Patriots don't beat themselves. They tried. Julian
Eeleman tried to touch that football, he tried to catch,
he missed. He tried to miss the Brady through the
interception that would have put but four D four. So

(01:28:04):
but look look at this, you know, Seattle Super Bowl.
They they felt interception. The Falcons don't handle the clock right,
in the Super Bowl, the Patriots forced teams to make mistakes,
whatever the reason is. You know, the pictures went into
Arrowhead Stadium had what zero procedure penalties, zero holdings if
you're on an offensive line, How crazy is that that
the entire offensive line, as loud as it was Arrowhead

(01:28:25):
never had a false start. So I noticed this early on.
I texted one my buddies about it is. From the
early start of the game, I could notice how calm
the picture offensive line was. They called the play in
the huddle, they kind of saunter up. There was no rushing.
The song cup the line of scrimmage on their stance.
Tom Brady motioned the emotional lot during the game emotional
the guy over. You know, I was looking around, sent

(01:28:46):
he goose is the center of the center. Does his
things happen like? No rush? Nope, it was loud. It
was loud that it was so loud Arrowhead, no panic,
no procedure penalties, what one holding? Maybe it was. It
was like a perfect game for it. So this is
why I believe the page you're gonna win. I mean, look,
the Rams are better, but I also think one thing
that we're forgetting here is and yes, Sean Muve is
a genius. He's doing a good job. He's very his

(01:29:08):
formations personals are very predictable. You. I don't think you
can do that against Bill Belichick. You cannot be predictable
against him. Um, and so I wonder what what the
rams will do differently. This week we're talking to Jeff Schwartz.
We've had a loaded show, encouraging to go download the podcast. Uh,
you want to do some Animal Thunderdome. I teased Animal
Thunderdome about twenty minutes ago. We're gonna do it now. Uh,
if you're still awaken, l A, you're the music voice,

(01:29:38):
Ladies and gentlemen. I'm just glad. I was scared, boys
and girls. I thought he thought I was like this
enormous piece of chicken. Dim times. I had to my
Space this is Animal thunder Doome. So my biggest fear
associated with animals is probably sharks. Number two fear probably alligators, crocodiles,

(01:30:06):
But my biggest fear that I could ever face. And
by the way, one thing I got to say about
the Atlanta Aquarium. They had a seventeen foot alligator replica
that you could jump on to see like how far
you could jump. We were jumping on it last night. Um,
not like a like a climbing thing, but like a
picture on the floor. Do you try to see how
many jumps that would take you to get you through
across seventeen feet? He didn't have an alligator at the

(01:30:28):
Georgia Aquarium. Big with by the Georgia Aquarium. I asked,
why would the aquarium have an alligator? Because it's not
just it's fresh water too. This is what you're confused by.
You're thinking, Oh, aquarium, it's only tropical. Just don't consider
an alligator to be part of an aquarium. Well, alligators
live in the water, they live on land. To yeah,
they count. They should be in the aquarium. How many

(01:30:51):
how many aquaiments you have had alligators? The Tennessee Aquarium
has alligators in Tennessee. No, it's because they know people
want Like if you go to a if you go
to a zoo and they don't have alligators, that's not
a real zoom in my opinion. And if you're gonna
but if you're gonna put a seventeen foot alligator on
the floor and brag about how big that alligator is,

(01:31:13):
you have to pay off and have an alligator there.
So I asked, and they said they used to have
to albino alligators. Um. Not to be a racist, but
they're white alligators. UM, and this post degree shouldn't judge
them differently. Um. But the albedo alligators they got too
big and they said they had to give them away.
And I'm like, you have, yeah, you have this huge

(01:31:35):
the aquarium is like the size of you know, like
a football stadium. And I'm like, you couldn't find a
little bit more space for the albino alligator because I'll
be honest with you, I would love to see an
albio the albinos or you can see them better. Um. Again,
not to be a racist, not to be racist against
the white alligator, but I think the white alligator, the

(01:31:56):
reason why they typically don't live very long is because
they're too visible. Like a bird can see a white
alligator better than it can see a green alligator. It's
not to be racist, but a white alligator a lot
of disadvantages, a lot of structural structural inequalities. There. I
love how you're afraid of an animal that you never
really ever encounter in the wild. What's that Alligators oh,
I couldn't have a place in Florida. But you you
would encounter like you go on the beach more often, right,

(01:32:17):
you would encounter a shark more often, wouldn't you. I
said that, I sat. I understand the shark part of it.
But the alligator, I don't you say crocodile first of all,
which is not crocodile is a lot more dangerous than
an alligator. Also not in America. But the reason why
I was giving that prelude, they actually do have crocodiles
in southern Florida's far South Florida's people list something to
us right now, driving along in South Florida, they drive

(01:32:38):
off the road by get eaten by a crocodile. You
never know. Um, here is what my biggest fear is
when it comes to animals that water. Animals like a
crocodile and alligator or shark. That's a big fear because
you can't see them coming. I'm okay with an animal bio.
You can albido, you'd see it coming a long way.
They had albido sharks, I wouldn't be afraid. Uh, not
to be racist, but if you do. Everybody who listens

(01:32:59):
to this on a regular bay knows that one of
my big fears is sitting down on a toilet and
bitten by a snake. And this happens way too often.
And it happened to our boy in uh Indonesia, remember
like and he had to like have surgery. Uh. We
had all the calls about that. It's now happened in
Australia to a woman. She said, now, which at least

(01:33:22):
is better because there's no dangling participle there that could
be a there for a man. I feel like that's
a that's a target. That's a dangerous target. Woman doesn't
necessarily have that. Uh, if you are one of the
people like me. Mary Richards from Queensland, Australia, says last
week she went into her dark bathroom and sat down
on the toilet. Seconds later, I felt this sharp tap

(01:33:43):
on my bottom, along with some pain. It turns out
the sharp tap sharp tap was actually a bite from
a huge python that had been curled up in the
toilet bowl. She never saw it. And this thing again,
snakes in the toilet. I would never go. I don't
know if I'd ever go to the bathroom be got

(01:34:04):
bitten by a snake. I think about this. Every time,
you know the same thing. The way that I get
in my car, I always look behind me to make
sure somebody doesn't have an AX there because of the
urban legend you heard about that. You never heard the
urban legend about the person with the axe in the
back of your car. Now now you're gonna look behind
and make sure somebody doesn't have an ax. I Also,
every time I go to the bathroom, I sit and
I look, and I make sure that there's when I

(01:34:26):
can get on the toilet, that there's not gonna be
a snake there. You should have stalled a urinal. Oh,
I'd like to have a urine. You haven't. You got
it done like you initially you requested it because you
pee all over the oil. She told me, She's like,
I got to I go to the bathroom the middle
of night in most nights, and she doesn't like to
wake up in the morning, and and so there's urinecause
you can't control yourself and you pee all over the place. Yeah,

(01:34:47):
so she's she's put in the urnal and it was
only at it. That's actually really cool. I'd like to
have a urinal. I wouldn't mind that because I got
three boys, and there's just be everywhere in my house.
Like the other day, my four year old came to
me and he said, Dad, I had an accident. I said, happened?
He said, well, I was peeing and then I just
beat everywhere and I went in and it was like
c s I. You know, it's like a murder scene

(01:35:07):
there was. I was like, how do you get the
angle of the p there? Like I don't even understand,
Like your four it's about like it was like a
arterial blood spurt at the ceiling. I don't. But so
in our house there's urine everywhere because we have three
boys and they regularly missed. So actually I liked the
idea of the urinal in the mansion. Yeah, I should
get one of the mansion. I'd like to have that

(01:35:27):
in a bi day. But it was funny, like touch
speaking of the urinal, your son, have you taken him
like to use the urinal himself yet? Ye? Like, but yeah,
so I have to. I feel like we were just
at the Harlem Globetrotters and when we went in, my
four year old, I'm in charge of him, and like
he wants to rest his penis on the porcelain like,

(01:35:48):
have you ever have you had this issue? Where is
my kid just unique? And I'm like, I don't want
it to get I don't want it to get gnarrhea
or her pots because he goes in after some dude
with the herb and next thing, you know, like he's
like tried to like you can't touch your penis to
the porcelain. But the thing I try to teach him now,
he's for myself. That the reason why he's doing that.

(01:36:08):
He's trying to keep the p and the porcelain. But
I'm like, no, no, you can't let your penis touch
the porcelain. Like that's a big no. No. He's just
like you have to teach a kid like not to
touch their tongue to the fountain because that seems natural too.
You're like, no, that's your gross. The one thing that
I try to teach him now is is like when
you before you you turn away from the urinal, pull
your pants up, because you know, like the kid they
pull down, they turned out of the urinal with their

(01:36:32):
pants still down, Like, dude, pull your pants up first
and then turn around. There are some adults and I
think they should have to go straight to prison. That
still do the full trouser drop when they go I've
seen it. You that should be a phone. In high school,
I remember the first time I ever noticed this. There
was a good looking girl and her grandfather was at
the basketball game and everybody went to the bathroom and

(01:36:54):
like her her her grandfather just went full trousers down
like around his ankles and was like, I don't think
you can date. Like we were talking about how hot
pit girl was in high schools, like, I don't think
you can date her. There's something wrong in that DNA code.
If the grandpa is dropping his pants full and then
and then old man reaches down to pull man, old
man pulls him back up, Like I was like one
of the most unbelievable things. But I've since seen that

(01:37:15):
every now and then, like the full ass like you
just drop your pants like in a public place as
one thing, if you like you just want to be comfortable,
and you're like, I don't want to wear pants while
I'm going to the bathroom whatever, But I'm talking about
like your in line for a stadium's probably might happen
to the super Bowl this weekend. People are like, hey,
it's halftime, let's go to the bathroom. Who's gonna win
the Patriots or the or the Saints or whoever is

(01:37:35):
playing the Patriots and the whatever ramps and then there's
just a guy there with his pants full down, bare
ass everything. I'll tell you, there's nothing that's traumatizing as
two experiences as a kid. One is, when you're young,
you have to pee in the troughs to those I
don't think they allowed the trough So the Rose Bowl,
you're like eight years old, you go in the bathroom
and like there's like just all in the trough. Secondly,
at the Rose Bowl too, we used to tailgate and

(01:37:56):
there were no doors on the stall. Yeah, people just
walking if you go numb or two. Oh yeah. Just
first of all, you just like just you can't go
number two in like a public bathroom. Well I was
a game, No, it was, it was. It was. It
was like on the Rose Bowl golf course, like there
was yeah yeah yeah, and like I would just I
just like was at the other bathroom I poop and
I just would like there's no door, you just sit
there and like they just stare out at people. Yeah,

(01:38:17):
like you just think you know, you're Twelve's traumatizing, Yeah,
I just I would not poop in that situation. I
trained myself now to like one side pooper, you can
go any once. I don't think you can say that
word on the air poop. Yeah, that's confident I can. Uh,
that's worse. I think I think that we can't say
that word. It's certain that we can say that. So

(01:38:39):
I think when you, uh, we make that decision in general,
you just can't. If you're if I'm going to a game,
I'm like, there's no way that I'm ever gonna go
number two. I'm not going to poop in the stadium.
So you was the last do you? Just like in
my entire life, I've never pooped in a stage, So
do you do you do you have? Do you avoid
certain foods that like like those like those stadium nachos,
You're like that cheese. You're like, I just not un

(01:39:00):
like gonna do it. I'd never have had an issue
where I would have to, like I've never had to
confront it because I'm just like I wouldn't do it.
It's like, just like I've got an unblemished record of
heterosexual Alley never considered sleeping with a man, never considered pooping.
In a bathroom at a stadium. I just wouldn't do it.
Are dumb? Button is gonna gonna be out of at
a time, all right? So do we have you have
an animal thunder? Oope? Story a quick one. Here the

(01:39:20):
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raising funds by allowing members of the public to pay
two dollars to name a cockroach after their former lovers.
Nice move for those that don't quite require revenge, they say.
There's another way to make you feel better about getting
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(01:39:43):
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a certificate from the facility. That seems a little bit better,
but the way to go England. Have we seen Philip
Lindsay yet? Have? Then? Have you seen them more? By?

(01:40:03):
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miss anything. We have had a lot of great guests.
We will continue to have a lot of great guests
on Thursday and Friday on this show as well. We're
right now sitting with our buddy Jeff Schwartz. So we
were talking about what the overall impact is going to
be for the Rams and the Patriots. As you think
about this game, you said you think the Patriots are
gonna win. Why do you think the Patriots are gonna win?

(01:44:48):
Is it Belichick? Is it Brady? Is it scheme? Is
it match up? Like? What would you say? Is the
gonna be the difference? I just think we keep downing
the they keep winning, they keep winning games. I think
that they present the Rams with issues that the Rams
have struggled with. So when they played the Lions, so
Matt Patricia's defense, it's the same obviously that they run
a little more zone. There's lines were a little more
quarters than than do the do the paths, and when

(01:45:10):
you're in quarters coverage, you're obviously it's it's kind of
like a blanket coverage. The four state four each one
has a quarter of the field, and so your safeties
can also be run defenders, so if you run the football,
they can come up and help in the run. When
you're played two deeper, man coverage doesn't work that way,
so the extra extra run defenders. But also it's a
zone shell, so you're gonna check to a lot more
passes in zone concepts, uh than you would and in

(01:45:32):
man concepts of times as well. So it just messes
with what the Rams really want to do. And I
think that that that is is what we can see
what the Patriot do mixing up coverages and how does
golf deal with it? How does they deal with Again? Look,
before C. J. Anderson took on a big role in
this offense, the Rams were one personnel grouping. Now since
then it's there, they've gone a seven five percent of

(01:45:54):
eleven personnel. So that you can't do against belt check.
You cannot be that simple against him. So how do
they come up with a plane out on the flip side? Look,
it comes down to domin con sume. My opinion, if
he plays really well, Wenna have a good shot on
defensive shutdown doing. If not Eny three in rushing defense,
they're gonna want to Sony Michelle over seventeen and a
half carries is like a lock in my opinion, I

(01:46:15):
mean that that's gonna happen. Do you think Sue was
saving it up for the postseason? Like, do you think
he's playing at a different caliber and effort and intensity
level than he was in the regular season, because he's
been pretty dominant so far in the postseason. I'm not
sure saving is the right word, um, but I think
he's given more effort now. I think he will. He's close.
Look about it. You know, your legacy gets changed if
you have a ring. I mean there's guy's walking around

(01:46:36):
here who are not great at media, but they can
carry that ring on their finger and theyre have jobs.
I mean, it means so much, and it would change
an image from kind of a guy who might be
a dirty player who people don't really like to oh oh,
here's a oh he won that super Bowl. I guess
the Patriots right like that. That helps you. It's a
status symbol and it would definitely repair any image if
you win a super Bowl. So I think he's turned

(01:46:58):
up now. Obviously one game left to play the Seas.
Then I don't know why he wouldn't play hard. But
Shack Mason, who's gonna yogainst him? The Patriots right guard
is good and he has a lot to prove. He
don't want to give up the sack last year of
Brandon Graham that cost the game essentially, So um, I
think that that's where we see the matchup. So I'm
excited to watch this game from like schematic perspective, It's
gonna be fabulous. I get DECI like the over under

(01:47:21):
most people. I think in the NFL, in particular, if
you give them the choice between having a quarterback or
a coach for the next five years, you would take
the quarterback. Right If I gave you right now, Jared
goff for the next five years or Sean McVeigh for
the next five years, which would you rather have if
you were in NFL GM Uh, So are we are

(01:47:44):
we saying Jared Goffins without Sean McVeigh in this scenario? Correct?
I'd rather take you think, But and that that's rare, right,
because I think most people in the NFL, you would
always take the starting quarterback or the stud quarterback over
the over the other option, right, I mean, I think
that's a little bit of a situation, but very rarely
that do we have great quarterbacks with poor coaches, Like
they kind of just are just kind of naturally pair together.

(01:48:07):
I think you're guys here, Yeah, I think we got
Philip Lindsay rolling in now Denver Bronco running back. Should we, hey,
Danny g go check and see what their time schedule is.
We might take a break here and come back with him,
ask how much time they can give us if they
can close out the show. That might make a lot
of sense, so we obviously there we go. Um, so
we are going to be joined by Philip Lindsay. We'll

(01:48:28):
see whether or not we're gonna do it right now
or whether they're gonna do it after the break. I'm
not sure what their schedule is. So after the break
living at his parents house, it's gonna be it's gonna
be a pretty awesome story. So we're gonna talk with
Denver Bronco's running back one of the great stories of
the NFL this year, when we come back live on
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And we got a guy now who I bet if
I told him a year ago you're gonna be nominated

(01:49:34):
for Rookie of the Year and you're gonna be walking
around at the super Bowl would have said that sounds
like a pretty good conclusion to what was a wild
year for you. Philip Lindsay Denver, Bronco running back, undrafted.
But what does it feel like for you to be
here PEPSI Rookie of the Year challenge and be one
of the final nominees? And what can you tell for
people who might want to go ahead and make a

(01:49:55):
little bit of their voice heard for why you should
be that nominee. Yeah, first of all, I want to
some off by saying thank you guys for having me
today to be here, and yeah, pretty much for the
PEPSI it's an honor to be able to be selected
for this and and there's some great uh contenders right
now for it, so hopefully I can win it. Um.
I definitely need the fans to help out, you know,

(01:50:16):
and at the fans, you know, fans vote, it's a
fan vote. Thing voted thing. So um, yeah, we we
need I need all the support I can get. They're
gonna announce the winner of the contest tomorrow, the Rookie
of the Year contest sponsored by PEPSI. If I had
told you on draft night, sit there on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

(01:50:36):
you don't hear your name called, what was that experience like? Yeah,
I want to First off, you know, first start off
by saying that, um, the draft process is a grind,
but that day, those three days are probably one of
the worst moments of your life if you ain't the
first first pick of the draft. Because you're sitting there,
you eat you alive. It really does. I don't I

(01:50:57):
don't wish nobody has to go through it, and I
don't wish their families would have to going through It's
it's a bad feeling to have to wait for three
days straight for somebody to call your name. Did you
think you were going to be drafted and so where
did you think you would be? Yeah? I for sure
thought I was gonna at least be drafted in the
six seventh round. I think I had a strong enough
um college and then a college career. Yeah, I was
I was consistent, and um, there's people being drafted that

(01:51:20):
played two years of college football and had no stats. So, UM,
when I sit back and look at it, I just
it was. It's one of the things where you know,
I'm sitting here thinking, all right, I'm gonna get drafted.
I didn't know from who. And the one thing I
al ways say is that everybody calls and uh tells
you they're gonna draft you, and they don't. And sometimes

(01:51:42):
there was a time, uh where one of the teams said,
you know, uh, we're not gonna draft the running back,
and you look up on the screen two minutes later
and they drafted a running back. So it's just one
of those things that it can eat you alive, and
it can really frustrate you, uh and bringing tears to
your eyes and your family's eyes. Uh. Philip lindsay, so
you were sitting there for three days, you don't get drafted.

(01:52:05):
What did they tell you about why you weren't drafted?
Did you get any kind of indication my my height
and my my size you just weren't big enough. Was
I Mean, that's the only reason why I didn't go
to the combine. But there was people going to the
combine that you've never heard of before. Yeah, but because
because somebody felt that they they know best. That's that's

(01:52:26):
the funny thing about everybody, is all these analysts is
everybody feels like they know what they're talking about. But
nobody can control you. Nobody can tell you what you're
gonna be and what you want to do. You gotta
go out there and do it, you know, And that's
that's that's period. It's a powerful story. No matter who
you are, what you do for a living, everybody has
to deal on some level with doubters, with haters, with

(01:52:48):
people who don't believe that you're capable of performing at
the highest level. So you end up in Denver Bronco
training camp, right, you signed it as an undrafted free agent.
At what point when you showed up with the Broncos
did you start to think, you know what, I could
do something here substantial, even in my rookie year. Yeah,
when I first got there. When I first got there,
I had that confidence, and you know, I knew I

(01:53:09):
need to earn respect from now, from the coaches and
definitely from the players your teammates. Your teammates matter, and
that first practice I went out there and I made
I scored a touchdown the first time I was in
the next day, I did the same thing, and I
knew that I'm gonna undrapt the free agent. And it's
a slam chance. I want to make it. If I don't,
I'm only getting about five reps and a practice, So

(01:53:31):
I gotta make him count. I gotta be out there,
and I gotta be a dog on special teams. I
gotta be a dog in the in the weight room,
and I gotta be a dog when it comes to
the meet. And that's that's what it's about. It's about
outlasting people. And that's and and I always tell people
that it's about outlasting And when when I knew that
that I can outlast people, I knew that I was
gonna be Okay. A lot of people, probably who are

(01:53:54):
around you, and certainly a lot of people listening, think, oh,
you make the NFL. That guy's making so much money
rights and millions of dollars the NFL league minimum four
eighty thousand dollars. You pay a lot of taxes, so
you know, I mean, it's not like you' are a
rich guy. Yet necessarily definitely and in fact, you lived
with your mom for your entire rookie year. Tell people

(01:54:14):
about that. Who might I know that part of your story?
So I decided I'm home. It's about twenty minutes from
the facility, which is a gorgeous When you wake up
in the morning, early in the morning, the sun hasn't
hasn't came out yet, and then you're driving in the
sun starts to rise. It gives you time to think.
So it's farther enough away so that you can regroup
your thoughts. And so I figured, you know, i'm home.
I get to save my money up. I still pay

(01:54:36):
you know, the bills from my mother and stuff like that,
but I get to save a lot of money, you know,
and and work my way up to buy in a
condo because no matter what I do, when I'm done
playing football, I want to I wanna get a home
in my hometown in Colorado. You want to stay in Yeah, exactly.
So you're born and raised in Denver. You went to
Colorado to uh to play for u C. Boulder, which

(01:54:58):
is a big Pact wealth program. Now you get to
play for the Denver Broncos. When you look at it now,
does there seem like there was a method that led
to pain for you on draft night, but maybe you
ended up in the best possible situation. Yeah, I mean
everything happens for a reason. I'm a firm believer of that.
When I got hurt, everything it has timing. God has

(01:55:20):
ways of slowing you down when it's time for you
to slow down, or or going through obstacles that he
knows that you need to go through to become a
better man, better woman. So that's how I believe. I'm
a firm believer in that. And uh, like I said,
it was a tough I had a tough time in
college too. I had it. I had to I had
to grind, you know, I had to grind from high school.

(01:55:40):
I got humble when I hurt my knee. Then I
got up to college. I was little, I was I
was a hundred and fifty pounds. You know what I mean.
And I'm sitting here, what do you wait now about?
Proud of it too? You know? I mean, like all
that other stuff is cute, That combined stuff is cute.
Now that we're done with that, Like you say, what
they want, I don't care. But it's about it's about productivity.

(01:56:01):
We're talking to Philip Lindsay Dever, Bronco running back underrated
free agent nominee for Rookie of the Year. Here Radio
Row in Atlanta, Super Bowl fifty three. I want to
go back to living in uh and with your mom?
Do you have brothers and sisters too? So do you
sleep in your like kids like bedroom or where do
you sleep downstairs? Yeah? So, uh, my city like so
pretty much everybody's out the house now. Everybody's everybody's Oh,

(01:56:23):
everybody's out that house. Um, but I sleep downstairs in
the basement and stuff like that. So I got my
own own space and stuff like that. But uh, it's
just easy right now. You know, can you bring girls over?
You know, I have a girlfriend right now. But what
is mom think of the girlfriend? They have a good relationship, Yeah,
they definitely do, I think. So what's the reaction when
guys find out in the locker room that you're living

(01:56:45):
at home with your mom? First they they laugh, they tease,
and then they start to think. You know, yeah, that's
when they come to me. A couple of them. You know,
I kind of wish, you know, I would have stayed
at home. You're doing the right way. It's a smart way.
Right now. So you said you start off your day
early in the morning, sun's not even up. What is
your typical day like during the season for the Denver Broncos,

(01:57:05):
Because I think people are curious about that too from
the perspective of I mean, you grind right, So so
what what you get up? You wake up at your
at your house, you eat breakfast with mom. So mom
used my mom used to stay you know, sleeping stuff.
So I get up, you know, and uh get out
the house, you know, uh, clear my mind with with
the drive and stuff. And then when I get to
the facility there might be usually I'm the first one there. Man.

(01:57:28):
What time when you get to the facility about six o'clock? Yeah,
sometimes at five? Yeah yeah, so it's still dark, usually
really dark outside. But I get everything situated, you know,
get my mind right, go through my plays. Uh you know,
we usually lift in the morning, so so get get
ready for that and uh just kind of like and
you know, get back and sit back and enjoy you know,

(01:57:50):
what has happened, and enjoy that. I'm I'm able to
play this game sto. You know. So you have the
off season, now you've got a cast on your your
what what what's the recovery process there? Do you expect
to be better? Like? How what's your process? Um? I
can do everything, I can run, I can do every
single thing except put pressure on this right now because

(01:58:11):
it's it's healing. But uh, I should be be ready.
Uh you know about O, T A S. But you
never know. Injuries take time and only God knows what's
you know how long it's gonna take. So how much
different does this offseason feel for you now that you
know you have a role on the Denver Broncos compared
to what last year's offseason would have felt like? Yeah,

(01:58:31):
it doesn't. It doesn't feel any different because I gotta grind.
Now we got a new coach of staff, I gotta
I gotta go and show again the consistency, show that
that I can be consistent in the NFL, not just
one year, two years. It's about being here four, five, six,
seven years. So it's about showing that and my mentality
how I work. I'm scared. I'm scared to fail, so

(01:58:54):
I'll grind all the time I'm working. I'm working. I
ain't the biggest but I'm gonna give you every thing
I got. You know what I mean, I don't care
about the size, and I'm gonna do what I have
to do to protect my family to make sure they're okay.
What are you think of the new coaching staff so far?
I like them. I like them, you know. I think
that it's gonna be beneficial for myself and beneficial for

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Case and and a lot of us, you know, And
I know the defenses is really excited. Um. You know,
our head coach is defense orientated man, and he's really good,
So we're excited. Philip Lindsay will be rooting for you.
I know people have loved hearing from you. Are giving
people out your Twitter handle if people want to reach
out to you. Yeah, it's a Twitter is Philip I

(01:59:38):
see you, boy, And Instagram is Philip Lindsay. All right,
people can find you on Twitter outstanding you underscore boy. So, by,
by the way, when are you gonna move out of
Mom's place? You know, I was thinking about it this Uh,
you know, a couple of months from now. We're gonna
see how it goes. You know, they're talking about the
lockout in two dozen twenty, so you might want to

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save as much money as you can so you might
stay there for a year to Maya might have to
you know what I mean, you know it's she she
welcomes to open arms, and you know that's all. You know,
I'm thankful for. That's outstanding stuff. Philip Lindsay follow his
story incredible year with the Denver Broncos. Appreciate him joining
us here Radio Rose super Bowl go download the podcast.
Tons of great guests, including him. If you're just getting

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into your card here in the end of it, he
was fantastic. Appreciate all of you. Thanks for hanging out
with us. Will be live Radio Road Thursday and Friday.
Good luck in the Rookie of the Year contest. This
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