August 16, 2025 • 41 mins
Big Ben talks about the Cowboys preseason debut with Brian Schottenheimer hyping up Joe Milton and CeeDee Lamb getting trucked in a game he didn't even play in, Jon Gruden winning his appeal against the NFL, Maller's Mountain of Money: Casey Affleck Edition, and more!
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lead this hour and we survived the weekend and all
that our lead this hour from the Cowboys. Oh yeah,
well why not? So now Dallas played the Rams. I
can't get into these exhibition games. I can't. I know
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there are some people that are better people than me
that can talk about these exhibition games. I can't do it.
I just I can't. I try to watch two seconds
of them. I want to puke in my mouth watching
this crap. That being said, That being said, I do
have a talk show to do right now. And there
are some stories that came out of these exhibition football games.
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One of them Dallas losing to the Rams over the
weekend in a practice game, not real game, not real game,
a practice game. We Rams won, all right. So quarterback
Joe Milton, quarterback Joe Milton, who played for the Patriots
last year now with the Dallas Cowboys, and he played
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in that game, played a lot in that game, did
not do anything all that memorable as the QB two
for the Cowboys. It was at meh, meh performance for
Joe Milton, and that was that left bruising his shoulder
in the third quarter, so he left the game early,
although he was likely going to come out of the
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game anyway. Around that time. He gave himself a D minus.
He gave himself the D the D minus grade on that. However,
that's not what I want to chat with you about.
It will lead up to that exhibition game. Coaches say
the darnedest things. We got a hum dinger humdinger of
a quote recently from the coach I say that loosely
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coach in Dallas. If you did not hear what he said,
perhaps not. Coach Brian Schottenheimer shotzi Brian Schottenheimer describing Joe
Milton's passes as quote, piss missiles. That's what he said.
That's a quote from the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
When speaking to reporters prior to that Cowboy exhibition game
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with the Rams, he compared his throwing to that of
Brett farre, the Hall of Fame former Green Bay Packer quarterback.
So you know what that means. Let's parse the words.
Let's parse the words here of the Cowboys coach Brian
Schottenheimer as we discuss so Brian Schottenheimer up selling obviously
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upselling backup quarterback Joe Milton saying that he throws quote
piss missiles, compared him to Brett Farv Is this something
or is this nothing? All right, So I've got twister,
hot tub, and cinnabun. Cinnabun is so good. And we'll
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combine all of these things together, and we are going
to make the Gabba Ghoul. We're gonna make the Gabba
gol So a where's the beef? The first question is
where is the beef? This is a burger. It's not
an in and out burger, is not a McDonald's Burger's
not a whopper from Burger King. It is a nothing burger,
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is what it is. It's your typical coach high garbay
garbays listen, how many let me ask a questions, how
many quarterbacks have great arm talent in the month of August?
How many? The answer all of them physically right, They're
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all listen, they're there, they're in the NFL. They all
can make all the throws and all that stuff. So listen,
Joe Milton. If you look at the raw ingredients, he's
a specimen. He's got the prototypical cannon arm and mobilities,
the whole deal, and then some and then some, and
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the kind of stuff that coaches and scouts get all
horny for. They're, oh, man, the problem is it's all unprocessed.
It is all unprocessed. And you can throw a fastball
and just zing it downfield, and it can also go
into the fifteenth throw and that's great. Can you consistently
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read the defense and find the open receiver and all that?
Can you hit the open player more importantly underneath when
it's third down and four or are you one of
those checkdown charlie guys when it is I say, third
and seven, and you complete a pass at the line
of scrimmage and then it gets five yards so you
come up short, but your completion percentage is good. Milton
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was chased out of New England in part because Drake May,
who was the chosen one, the chosen one there with
the Patriots. Drake May was uncomfortable. So those around the
Patriots said, with Joe Milton, which is odd because if
you look at the resume of the new Cowboy backup
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quarterback here Joe Milton. His biggest NFL moment, the thing
that stands out on his resume was a believe it
was Week eighteen last year, last year when he beat
the Buffalo bill backups backups in the final game of
the regular season, a meaningless game. That's it. That's the resume,
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that's all. Now, regardless of that, you can't just overlook
the fact. And this is why I'm intrigued by this
to a point, not just the great quote from Schoenheimer
piss missile describing the throws, but the fact that you've
got the incompetent Dakota Prescott as QB won there in Dallas.
The man is made of toilet paper. And I'm not
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talking about charman. I'm talking about one plied toilet paper
that you see at a truck stop on the side
of the Jersey Turnpike. That's what I'm talking about, that
one plied toilet paper. He's always hurt. And Jerry Jones
knows this. He's aware of this because it happens every
year where Dakota Prescott gets hurt. So Jerry Jones is
out there playing twister now nobody wants to see Jerry
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Jones play twister, but Joe Milton is one twisted ankle
or twisted knee or tweaked elbow away from playing in
the regular season for the Dallas Cowboys. And while again
piss missile, great quote, really, good quote, wonderful. However, Joe Milton,
if you look at the comparison, it's like, well, he
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certainly more of a JaMarcus Russell, though Russell was the
number one over of the old Oakland Raiders. I'm old,
I remember the Raiders played in Oakland, and Brett Farv
certainly nowhere near Brett Farrv. Joe Milton in that category. Now,
we would enjoy, we would absolutely enjoy watching him play
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in real game. Now. Why is that, I'll tell you
because of chaos with a capital C. Chaos with a
capital C. Here it could be awesome, right, real games.
So there's a little bit of intrigue there. Why not
see what he can do? But for now, we're doing
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the show right now. For now, this is just a
nice puffy pastry in August, a nice delicious pastry served
up in August, and Brian Schottenheimer trying to build up
the player and give him some false confidence and all that,
and that's really what he's going for here. Now, we
will revisit this. We're gonna file this one away. We're
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gonna revisit this around week three when Dak Prescott feels
a twinge in his hamstring, and then we'll revisit all
this now, Page two. Staying though, staying in Jerry's world,
because we had a wonderful mall mate, a wonderful moment.
I did not see this live, but let me set
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the scene here for you. So again, Cowboys preseason. Cowboys
playing a nothing game against the Rams in the hood
in Inglewood on Saturday. And Ceedee Lamb. That's a high
paid wide receiver, not an actual Lamb, a football player
named Lamb, Ceedee Lamb. So Ceedee Lamb doesn't even playing
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the game. Why would he. He's a star, he's a diva.
Divas don't play. Stars don't play in these first exhibition games.
So fine, he didn't play in the game, but he's there.
He doesn't take a snap in the game. He's not
wearing a uniform. You're not able to take a snap.
And so somehow, some way, this player, Ceedee Lamb, somehow,
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manages to get the biggest hit of the game. He
was involved in the biggest hit of the game. Well,
how did he do that? I don't understand, all right,
So without even being in uniform again, we'll go back
to Joe Milton, the backup quarterback who played a lot
because this was an exhibition game. So Joe Milton is
in there and he unquirks a deep pass down the
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sideline to someone named Jonathan Mingo to the Mingo down
the sidelines and Lamb who is standing there right on
that white painted area, that stripe on the sidelines where
you're not allowed to be. That literally is the get
out of the way zone in football. And so he's
in the lane where the officials are running down the field,
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and sure enough he starts celebrating like this is the
Super Bowl. Of course, playing for the Cowboys, they don't
actually get to the Super Bowl, so you have to
celebrate these kind of things. And so he was so engaged,
so caught up into the moment. How caught up was he,
Cede Lamb. He was so caught up he did not
notice in his peripheral vision a bad situational awareness, did
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not notice the side judge barely down the sideline in
full sprint.
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Eh Ca Boom came boom.
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It was great. Obliterated the side a sideline judge there
obliterated Ceedee Lamb from behind blind side hit pancake in
Madden on the blind side. Fifteen yard penalty for the
Cowboys for unsportsmanlike conduct. And it's good to know that
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the coaches have changed, that the calendar has changed, all
of this has changed, all of this has changed, and
yet here we are. So my reaction to that particular place, well,
yes it was entertaining. It was entertaining, I'll give you that.
But my reaction to the Cowboy wide receiver Ceedee Lamb
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being trucked in a exhibition game that he didn't even
play in, I loved it. This was exactly exactly the
kind of dopey staff that the preseason is four. That
was my first thought. Here, what a bonehead move. And
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you can't keep your third or fourth or fifth string
this guy and that guy and these battles. You know,
some people into that kind of stuff, the analytical crowds
into that. Give me an all pro level player in
street close getting bulldozed by a referee any day. NFL films.
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You know what they need to do. They need to
go in the hot tub time machine. Go into the
hot tub time machine and bring back the classic old
school NFL's Greatest follies. Bring that back and you can
just stream it. You don't have to do the DVD.
You don't have to do obviously the VHS, that's old tech.
But you can bring back NFL's Greatest follies and slap
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cdee Lamb in there right in between. The mascot falling
off the ATV always a classic, always very entertaining. The
quarterback who lines up behind the guard not realizing where
they are on the field, that's also very entertaining. Put
the Dunce cap on him, and CD seemed to appreciate
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the fact that he was the butt of the joke.
After the game and push you can have all the follies,
the usual follies, the fumbles, the ball bouncing off a
player's helmet, all that stuff just bobbled passes here, there
and everywhere. You know, guys slipping on the logo. And
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now you can add Ceedee Lamb, the cowboy player not
in uniform and taking a shoulder from the side judge
there like he's running the Oklahoma drill and it was
very very unentertending, so instant classic and the rookie sock
puppet coach Brian Schottenheimer out there saying that CD knows better.
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He knows better, and that is the Dallas Cowboys in
a nutshell. As we said, things change, the calendar changes,
the names change, the coaches changed, and all that. But
even in August, even in August, they're still drawing thumb
penalties for nothing, for nothing at all, preseason or regular season.
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You can count on Dallas for one thing, entertainment at
their own expense, and they did it yet again.
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So our lead this hour is from the courthouse. I
am a sucker for these stories. I welcome you in here.
I do like these stories. I'm guilty as charged on this.
I enjoy these stories.
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This is an in progress, in progress story, major update,
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in progress. This is in progress, story is subject to change,
but we do the show today. We have to worry
about the show right now, and the show right now
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is this. We react to this? What is this? If
you did not hear, maybe not, maybe you're not following
the Nevada court system. But it turns out that a
Nevada court has cleared the way for a lawsuit that
goes back not one, not two, not three, but four years,
go back to the year twenty twenty one. A lot
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of craziness, a lot of people wearing masks and not
going out and weird stuff going on. But in twenty
twenty one, there was a lawsuit filed by John grud.
Now you know is that's an old NFL coach, John Gruden.
He coached the Raiders. Yeah, so John Gruden file lawsuit.
Whell A court Nevada has announced that that lawsuit now
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can proceed against the National Football League and Commissioner Roger
the Dodger, Goodell Roger, the Dodger, who normally dodges these
type of lawsuits. Now, that suit alleged that a malicious
and orchestrated campaign was used by the NFL to destroy
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John Gruden's career. You might remember the NFL famously strategically
leaking all the emails that he had sent, including the
things that hit all the big ones, racism, misogynistic activity,
homophobic comments, the big three right there by John Gruden,
and old emails that were strategically leaked by the NFL.
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That's the claim. So the Nevada Supreme Court, that's right,
the Nevada Supreme Court did they cover area fifty one. Also,
they ruled five to two, what even close. Five to
two was the ruling. And they said that the arbitration
clause in the NFL constitution is let's just say non kosher,
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that's my term for it, but it does not apply
to John Gruden. They claimed as a former employee, that
Gruden was not an employee of the NFL at the
time the emails were sent. There for he is not
under the bylaws of the NFL. Now, Gruden his lawyers
react to the NFL. Their lawyers, they declined comment on
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this particular rule. Did not comment, did not comment. John
Gruden's lawyer say that this will help quote hold the
NFL accountable. Okay, so let us discuss the question for
the esteem panel. John Gruden, certainly this is a win.
Whether he wins the final battle, this is a win
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at this point for John Gruden. He wins this round.
John Gruden winning this round against the NFL in court.
What are your thoughts on these latest developments the Supreme
Court of Nevada siding against against the NFL and in
favor of John Gruden. So I've got the Jenga Tower,
Morgan Spurlock, and cosplay, and we will combine all of
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these things together and put a billboard up that says
who hurt you? Because every time I drive one by
one of those, I just want to laugh. I just laugh.
I just chuckle. I do uh. Anyway, So my first
thought on this and the latest developments is the plot
thickens do do do do do do do do do
do do doo? Uh. It's finger Byton time. It's finger
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Byton time for the NFL. Now, I did send some
correspondence out to people that work in that world. They
don't seem too concerned. They don't seem to concerned that
it's that hubris of the NFL. Wow, we'll ultimately win this.
It's just going to delay the inevitable. So I would argue,
though there is some finger biting going on because you
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don't know what you don't know, and for right now,
with worry about right now, this is a seismic shift.
The NFL was not counting on to the world order
of the National Football League. John Gruten, the guy who
they tried to have disappear from the face of the earth,
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is back. Yeah, and he's got a for now, a
wrecking ball, a wrecking ball in his hand. It's like
a Hollywood special, Worlds Collide, World's Collide. You got the
little guy, the disgraced former hero, John Gruden, who comes
back from the dead, comes back from the dead, and
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now now he's got the villain, a big, big football,
big NFL on the ropes. It's if you combine like
Rocky and then you're throw in some sopranos in there.
It's got a little bit of that, a little bit
of that. Roger Goodell is in danger of getting the
bitter taste of his own medicine. Like the NFL tried
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to erase John Gruden and now Goodell. You think there's
anything in his emails? You think Goodell sent any text
messages that might be considered I don't know, racist or
misogynistic or homophobic anywhere along the way. I'm just asking,
I don't know, maybe not. He's perfect, He's the archangel,
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he would have never done anything like that at all.
The reason I bring that up is because the discovery
phase will be a hum dinger. A humdinger. Most knowledgeable
people who have looked at the case will tell you
that is more likely than not based on the prepondence
of the evidence that the NFL leaked to hand picked,
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hand picked friends of the NFL that are in that
New York bubble, the Wall Street Journal and the New
York Times, the emails. Now, now Gruden gets to go
into discovery at this point, this is where we are.
He's gonna go in discovery and see what skeletons, uh,
he can find in the closets at the NFL.
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And they have really big walk in closets, I mean massive,
and the whole wing of the house is a closet,
and they man, is that a big closet.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
They can go in there and snoop around. And so
at this point Gruden not just knocking on the door.
He's not knocking on the door. He's got the keys
and he's gonna he's gonna have all the lights on,
turn them all on, go through everything. And it's not
just about John Gruden and some dirty emails. This is
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about the entire power structure of the NFL. And that's
why this is so fascinating. This f's everything up. They
for years have had a choke hold on anyone that
dares fight them. And this is a look behind the curtain,
if it goes the way it's going right now, where
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John Gruden can reveal a lot of warts, a lot
of interesting imperfections in the NFL world. And so the
Nevada Supreme Court, in so many words I'll sum it up,
told the NFL you cannot be both the judge and
the jury. That's essentially what they said. That's how I
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interpret it. You can't have your sock puppet Commissioner Roger
Goodell arbitray a case where he's one of the defendants
in the case like that's not how you do this here.
And it's so simple, yet it is so beautiful at
the same time. I don't know what your position is.
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My position is. It's simple, it's logical, and it's beautiful.
It's kind of like in some shady neighborhood boxing match
and you find out that you're watching the boxing match
and it just turns out that the referee in the
boxing match happens to be the uncle of the fighter
who won the boxing match, like just a coincidence, you know,
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It's just a weird thing. So the league's very bedrock,
the very bedrock of the NFL is built on this,
and so they do whatever they want whenever they want
in NFL circles. And if you don't like it and
you want to go to court and all that stuff,
you can take it to their little kangaroo court and
they always win. They always win. It's like going to
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Moscow and suing the government in Russia. Okay, you can
do that. You're not going to win. You're not going
to win. And so now the whole wobbly Jenga tower,
the whole giant Jenga tower, is shaking a little. It's
shaking a little bit right now Gruden has for now,
because of this Supreme Court in Nevada, he has kicked
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one of the main legs of the Jenga tower and
he's he's kind of kicked it down a little bit.
So the NFL is essentially a mob family, right, I mean,
in so many words my understanding of what the old
mob was. And it's still mobs around and all that,
but essentially the mob, right, they do things, but they
don't do things by the book, and they've got their
own book there. And the great Brent Musburger Hall of
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Fame broadcaster Brent musburg you're looking live, Brent Musburger said
of John Gruden. He was the Raider radio play by
play guy at the time all this went down. And
Musburger said, of John Gruden's removal as the Raiders coach,
he called it. This is Brent Musburger, a guy who
worked in the NFL since like the sixties. He said,
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professional hit job. That's Brent Musburger. Hall of Famer Brent
Musburger said the NFL took down John Gruden on it
a professional hit job by a paid assassin is how
Musburger said it. They didn't use the usual media goombas.
Now the usual media goombas are state sponsored NFL media,
the network the NFL gets sold to ESPN or anyone
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works at ESPN who's in the tank for the NFL.
So instead, as we mentioned, they went to the Wall
Street Journal, they went to the New York Times. That's
where they went to. And so now the tables have turned.
So they've turned, and the NFL peeps, we would imagine
we're going to start singing like canaries some of the
people involved in this if it gets to the discovery phase,
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because emails will get exposed and text messages and they're
going to try to do the old cya cover your ass,
and that's what everyone does now. Page two. So where
where does the NFL go now to avoid publicly being
pansd publicly being pantsed by John Gruden in the discovery
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phase of a court case. So what does the NFL
do here? So they have to get out the manny
and the petty They have to give the manny in
the petty discotus. That is where this is going. Next.
The NFL will file a formal appeal, which means lawyers
will get some more money. They're on retainer anyway, So
the NFL is gonna file a formal petition I guess,
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not really appeal, but petition for appeal, which is an appeal,
but it's a petition for a pick. So they're going
to file a petition to the United States Supreme Court,
the highest court in the land. And if the Supreme
Court does not take the case, and they don't take
most cases, they don't take most cases, all right, or
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if they do take the case and they rule in
favor of John Gruden, meaning the NFL loses loser capitale
l that means it is on like don't keet caong.
We're talking about the discovery phase. So listen to the NFL.
I mentioned I'd put some feelers out and then just
the early vibe I got was hubris. That's my word,
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that not their word. But there's an arrogance that they're
gonna win in the Supreme Court and all that stuff.
The nl is not stupid. They're not smart, but they're
not stupid, and they know that the discovery phase will
be a blood bath for them and if we get there,
and so they're gonna try to cut it off at
the pass if they have to. Now they assume they're
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gonna win because they'll just do what everyone does in
these cases, and a massage from some politicians, and that's
how it goes. And then at the other side of it,
the other option would be to work out of court
settlement with John Gruden a big bag of cash. I'm
talking the late Morgan Spurlock and supersize me. I'm talking
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John Gruden's lawyers cooking up what do you want, John?
You want thirty forty fifty million dollars whatever you want.
The NFL is gonna pay it. You know, it's a
tax for the NFL. They'll pay it. And Gruden, you know,
he had said the quote that it keeps coming up
is he wants to burn the house down. So he's
going to tell them to shove it. You would assume, right,
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I don't need your money. I got enough. Gruden's rich.
You paid way too much money to do bad television
and all that, so he's got a lot of money.
So if it's not about the money, it's about your reputation,
it's about the principal, and he was humiliated and all
that stuff, and he wants his pound a flash, and
then what's the NFL going to do. You know, he
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can't settle. Gruden cannot settle, right, he can't do that.
The NFL made sure that he was radioactive. So what
Gruden could do is make Roger Goodell radioactive. There is
a scenario where Gruden, this lawsuit goes forward, Goodell ends
up losing his job as the commissioner of the NFL.
That there's definitely some skeletons there somewhere if you dig
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deep enough in those nice walking closets, and you can
get rid of Roger Goodell. And so at this point,
John Gruden's got the league by the ball. He's got
him by the balls. And just like the man said
a famous quote, what do you do when you've got
him by the balls? You squeeze, and you keep squeezing
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until their hearts and minds follow, and there you go.
You're on your way. Good luck on that, all right? Now,
the last word on this. We'll put the baby to
bed on this, John Gruden. So you will get your
calls if you want to react to it, and comments
and all that. But what kind last word here? What
kind of a package deal? Oh, what kind of a
package deal could get John Gruden, who has said that
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he wants, and again his quote was, he wants to
burn the house down. So what kind of package deal
could get John Gruden to take a settlement from the NFL.
As a distant relative of Nostradamus and friend of Nostradinas,
he lives in Seattle. He doesn't really react to the
show very much anymore. But I've done the investigative work.
I've done the investigative work. So we're talking about Roger
(32:00):
Goodell doing some cosplay in this world. I believe in
the multiverse, So in this part of the multiverse, there's
some cosplay and Roger Goodell he addresses up as the
old Hollywood star Marlon Brando from back in the day
in The Godfather and says, I'm gonna make him an
offer he can't refuse John Gruden. And it's about Gruden
(32:25):
getting back in the game. The money's one thing. Gruden
not need the money. He's rich, He's made a lot
of money for a long time, so he's financially set
in that regard. In the multiverse, though, you get not
only the cartoon sized check for say fifty million dollars.
That's after taxes, After taxes, fifty million dollars, you look around.
(32:47):
You got Pete Carroll who's beginning his first year with
the team in Las Vegas, and he's the oldest coach
in the NFL. He clearly has lost it. He brought
Geno Smith in, who sucks as the Raiders quarterback. So
and we like Pete. Pet's you a nice guy and
all that, Pollyanna Pete. However, however, John Gruden, what's the
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one thing he would love to have more than anything.
The job that he had that he thought he was
gonna have for another seven or eight years. He signed
that ten year contract to be the coach of the Raiders.
So John Gruden, with that big, greasy smile on his
face from ear to ear, cheshire cat smile, heads back
(33:31):
to Sin City coach of the Raiders. And Goodell can
make it happen, is anlisten and do us a solid here.
We'll give you the money. We'll get you the Raider
coaching job. In fact, we'll get you whatever job you
want in the NFL. You want, what job do you want?
It makes too much sense, John Gruden returning as coach
of the Raiders. And you can see it now, the
(33:52):
charismatic John Gruden saying Bygones, be Bygones back on the
sidelines there with Mark Davis is giving him a hug.
They go out to dinner at PF. Chang's and they
get the orange Chicken. They have a great time. I
remember Mark David said he never wanted to get rid
of John Gruden. In fact, if I remember Correfy doing
the show and being in the watchdower at that time.
(34:15):
The first email dump happened on like a Thursday or
a Friday, the John Gruden email dump. Gruden coached the
Raiders against the Chicago Bears, and then a second a
second wave of emails were dump because the first one
didn't work. So whoever at the NFL, in my opinion,
(34:36):
you can't sume me for my opinion. Some of the
NFL said, all right, this didn't work. We got more email,
send those out to the other newspaper that we don't
normally do business with, and you know, we'll take down.
And that worked. The second one worked. That's it. He
was gone. But Mark Davis didn't want to get rid
of John Gruden. He was forced to, so he can
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Goodell can unforce it and bring him back and save
his own ass. At the same time, because there's stuff
in those emails for Goodell, and he'd be gone and
Gruden can stick it to the NFL's a here, I'm back.
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Now?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I'm back? And of course I don't think it's a
pipe tree. I don't believe it's a piper. This is
John Gruden's ultimate revenge. So either you tear down the
entire league, get rid of Goodell and a bunch of
other executives because you release the emails, or you take
NFL money fifty million, let's say maybe it's more than that.
They have going low at fifty million, and you take
the money and then you get whatever NFL coachingw you want.
(35:35):
It's yours, hand delivered done.
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Oswago mar contestants for the game. We have some people
standing by here. John is in Paradise. Something to assume.
That's Nevada where all the casinos are? No? Oh, California, Paradise, California.
Where's Paradise. Where's Paradise, California? Where is that about ten
miles north of Chico? Oh? When you think paradise, You
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think Chico, north of Chico, that is paradise. Yeah, absolutely, yes, absolutely?
All right, Well John, welcome and you let's see here. Now,
what are you up to? You working? Are you just
driving around randomly? What's going on? Just my girlfriend's house?
(36:24):
Oh look at that. That sounds like a booty called
to me late night fun there, you know, took care
of business, your big stud, John, Right.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Come on, maybe maybe the exact opposite that way.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
That chicked out of the house at two in the morning.
Almost that sucks. That's all right, I understand, I gotcha.
Well it happens. So we'll see now, John, would you
like to play with myself Ben as your partner or
coop a loop mood you want, then I'll play with you.
(37:03):
That's how I played. I played with Eddie. We did good.
If you really want to make your girlfriend mad, you
can play with me. Yeah, right, hello John. Unfortunately Eddie
is not available. He's not working here right now, so
he's not we I did invite Eddie to the mall
or meet and greet. I don't think he's gonna go.
(37:23):
I said you can come and hang out and we
have him, you know in Vegas, and I don't think
he's gonna show up, but I did invite him. All right, John,
we'll partner uphold on a second. We have Steve in
the Bay Area Hill Steve quickly, Steve Big Thicket. Well,
Steve in the Bay Area, welcome out. You want to
play with Coop? Yes, yeah, Coop quickly? All right, Coop
quickly one of the category. Hurry up?
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All right, this is the casey Affleck edition. We have
two hundred cigarettes Ocean's eleven. I'm still here in Manchester
by the Sea.
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John, what do you want? Quickly? I'm still here. I'm
still here. Steve, what do you want? All right? Hold on,
We'll get to Malor's mount of Money. We'll get to it.
We will do it next.
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And right to the game we go. We have John,
who's a little north of Cheeko and Paradise, California, teamed
up with me. He just had a disagreement with his girlfriend,
and so now he's calling sports radio and we have
Steve in the Bay Area. We don't know what Steve's
up to, but he's with Coop. So let's get to
the game right now. Here we go, and it is
the Casey Affleck edition turned to fifty today. All right,
(38:49):
so you picked I'm still here, Yes, John, These athletes
have all been all been professional athletes for fifteen plus years.
They're still playing. Are you ready? I'm going to be
all right on forty five seconds on the clock. We're
on our way go. Starting quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yes, Cory,
he won a Super Bowl. It was called the Elite
(39:10):
with the Ravens. He's the Browns quarterback right now. Yes.
Starting pitcher for the San Francisco Giants. Longtime Detroit Tiger
played for the cheating Astros. Yes, last name is like Romance.
He played for the Minnesota Timberwolves, the Miami Heat, at
Cleveland Cavaliers. He's a forward white guy out of U
(39:32):
c l A sure, Yes, that's right. A closer for
the Angels. He used to play with the Dodgers, played
with the Red Sox. All right, center for the ah
You did hundred points. You didn't get Wenley Jansen James.
(39:56):
All right, Steve, we have Manchester by the Seed. These
athletes are from Massachusetts. Are you ready, Steve?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
I'm ready?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
All right.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Forty five seconds let's begin. Famous professional wrestler in movies,
not the Rock. You can't see him, No, all right,
a professional wrestler. He's in movies, but not the Rock. Yes,
all right. This guy is Terry Bradshaw's partner on the
NFL on Fox. He was a defensive end for the Raiders. Yes,
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this guy was part of the Killer Bees in Houston.
Not Craig Beegio the other guy. Well say that the
whole name. Yes, this guy was a He led the
Seahawks to the Super Bowl in two thousand and five.
With yes, Yes, good job. This guy was a white
(40:48):
guy on the bad Boy.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Piston that I think it's funny. All Right, we go next, quick, John,
What do you want? You want Ocean's eleven or two?
Order cigarettes? John? All right? These athletes were all known
to smoke. Forty five seconds were on our way center
for the nineteen eighties Lakers. He played for the Sacramento Kings.
(41:11):
He's got a beard, was the GM of the Kings,
that is correct, manager of the Pirates. He was chained smoking.
Back in the eighties when he had Barry Bonds, he
managed the Detroit Tigers, Ben. She does not want that
we won the game.
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that our lead this hour from the Cowboys. Oh yeah,
well why not? So now Dallas played the Rams. I
can't get into these exhibition games. I can't. I know
(02:01):
there are some people that are better people than me
that can talk about these exhibition games. I can't do it.
I just I can't. I try to watch two seconds
of them. I want to puke in my mouth watching
this crap. That being said, That being said, I do
have a talk show to do right now. And there
are some stories that came out of these exhibition football games.
(02:22):
One of them Dallas losing to the Rams over the
weekend in a practice game, not real game, not real game,
a practice game. We Rams won, all right. So quarterback
Joe Milton, quarterback Joe Milton, who played for the Patriots
last year now with the Dallas Cowboys, and he played
(02:43):
in that game, played a lot in that game, did
not do anything all that memorable as the QB two
for the Cowboys. It was at meh, meh performance for
Joe Milton, and that was that left bruising his shoulder
in the third quarter, so he left the game early,
although he was likely going to come out of the
(03:03):
game anyway. Around that time. He gave himself a D minus.
He gave himself the D the D minus grade on that. However,
that's not what I want to chat with you about.
It will lead up to that exhibition game. Coaches say
the darnedest things. We got a hum dinger humdinger of
a quote recently from the coach I say that loosely
(03:27):
coach in Dallas. If you did not hear what he said,
perhaps not. Coach Brian Schottenheimer shotzi Brian Schottenheimer describing Joe
Milton's passes as quote, piss missiles. That's what he said.
That's a quote from the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
When speaking to reporters prior to that Cowboy exhibition game
(03:49):
with the Rams, he compared his throwing to that of
Brett farre, the Hall of Fame former Green Bay Packer quarterback.
So you know what that means. Let's parse the words.
Let's parse the words here of the Cowboys coach Brian
Schottenheimer as we discuss so Brian Schottenheimer up selling obviously
(04:12):
upselling backup quarterback Joe Milton saying that he throws quote
piss missiles, compared him to Brett Farv Is this something
or is this nothing? All right, So I've got twister,
hot tub, and cinnabun. Cinnabun is so good. And we'll
(04:35):
combine all of these things together, and we are going
to make the Gabba Ghoul. We're gonna make the Gabba
gol So a where's the beef? The first question is
where is the beef? This is a burger. It's not
an in and out burger, is not a McDonald's Burger's
not a whopper from Burger King. It is a nothing burger,
(04:57):
is what it is. It's your typical coach high garbay
garbays listen, how many let me ask a questions, how
many quarterbacks have great arm talent in the month of August?
How many? The answer all of them physically right, They're
(05:18):
all listen, they're there, they're in the NFL. They all
can make all the throws and all that stuff. So listen,
Joe Milton. If you look at the raw ingredients, he's
a specimen. He's got the prototypical cannon arm and mobilities,
the whole deal, and then some and then some, and
(05:39):
the kind of stuff that coaches and scouts get all
horny for. They're, oh, man, the problem is it's all unprocessed.
It is all unprocessed. And you can throw a fastball
and just zing it downfield, and it can also go
into the fifteenth throw and that's great. Can you consistently
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read the defense and find the open receiver and all that?
Can you hit the open player more importantly underneath when
it's third down and four or are you one of
those checkdown charlie guys when it is I say, third
and seven, and you complete a pass at the line
of scrimmage and then it gets five yards so you
come up short, but your completion percentage is good. Milton
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was chased out of New England in part because Drake May,
who was the chosen one, the chosen one there with
the Patriots. Drake May was uncomfortable. So those around the
Patriots said, with Joe Milton, which is odd because if
you look at the resume of the new Cowboy backup
(06:44):
quarterback here Joe Milton. His biggest NFL moment, the thing
that stands out on his resume was a believe it
was Week eighteen last year, last year when he beat
the Buffalo bill backups backups in the final game of
the regular season, a meaningless game. That's it. That's the resume,
(07:06):
that's all. Now, regardless of that, you can't just overlook
the fact. And this is why I'm intrigued by this
to a point, not just the great quote from Schoenheimer
piss missile describing the throws, but the fact that you've
got the incompetent Dakota Prescott as QB won there in Dallas.
The man is made of toilet paper. And I'm not
(07:28):
talking about charman. I'm talking about one plied toilet paper
that you see at a truck stop on the side
of the Jersey Turnpike. That's what I'm talking about, that
one plied toilet paper. He's always hurt. And Jerry Jones
knows this. He's aware of this because it happens every
year where Dakota Prescott gets hurt. So Jerry Jones is
out there playing twister now nobody wants to see Jerry
(07:51):
Jones play twister, but Joe Milton is one twisted ankle
or twisted knee or tweaked elbow away from playing in
the regular season for the Dallas Cowboys. And while again
piss missile, great quote, really, good quote, wonderful. However, Joe Milton,
if you look at the comparison, it's like, well, he
(08:15):
certainly more of a JaMarcus Russell, though Russell was the
number one over of the old Oakland Raiders. I'm old,
I remember the Raiders played in Oakland, and Brett Farv
certainly nowhere near Brett Farrv. Joe Milton in that category. Now,
we would enjoy, we would absolutely enjoy watching him play
(08:36):
in real game. Now. Why is that, I'll tell you
because of chaos with a capital C. Chaos with a
capital C. Here it could be awesome, right, real games.
So there's a little bit of intrigue there. Why not
see what he can do? But for now, we're doing
(08:56):
the show right now. For now, this is just a
nice puffy pastry in August, a nice delicious pastry served
up in August, and Brian Schottenheimer trying to build up
the player and give him some false confidence and all that,
and that's really what he's going for here. Now, we
will revisit this. We're gonna file this one away. We're
(09:17):
gonna revisit this around week three when Dak Prescott feels
a twinge in his hamstring, and then we'll revisit all
this now, Page two. Staying though, staying in Jerry's world,
because we had a wonderful mall mate, a wonderful moment.
I did not see this live, but let me set
(09:38):
the scene here for you. So again, Cowboys preseason. Cowboys
playing a nothing game against the Rams in the hood
in Inglewood on Saturday. And Ceedee Lamb. That's a high
paid wide receiver, not an actual Lamb, a football player
named Lamb, Ceedee Lamb. So Ceedee Lamb doesn't even playing
(10:00):
the game. Why would he. He's a star, he's a diva.
Divas don't play. Stars don't play in these first exhibition games.
So fine, he didn't play in the game, but he's there.
He doesn't take a snap in the game. He's not
wearing a uniform. You're not able to take a snap.
And so somehow, some way, this player, Ceedee Lamb, somehow,
(10:23):
manages to get the biggest hit of the game. He
was involved in the biggest hit of the game. Well,
how did he do that? I don't understand, all right,
So without even being in uniform again, we'll go back
to Joe Milton, the backup quarterback who played a lot
because this was an exhibition game. So Joe Milton is
in there and he unquirks a deep pass down the
(10:43):
sideline to someone named Jonathan Mingo to the Mingo down
the sidelines and Lamb who is standing there right on
that white painted area, that stripe on the sidelines where
you're not allowed to be. That literally is the get
out of the way zone in football. And so he's
in the lane where the officials are running down the field,
(11:05):
and sure enough he starts celebrating like this is the
Super Bowl. Of course, playing for the Cowboys, they don't
actually get to the Super Bowl, so you have to
celebrate these kind of things. And so he was so engaged,
so caught up into the moment. How caught up was he,
Cede Lamb. He was so caught up he did not
notice in his peripheral vision a bad situational awareness, did
(11:25):
not notice the side judge barely down the sideline in
full sprint.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Eh Ca Boom came boom.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It was great. Obliterated the side a sideline judge there
obliterated Ceedee Lamb from behind blind side hit pancake in
Madden on the blind side. Fifteen yard penalty for the
Cowboys for unsportsmanlike conduct. And it's good to know that
(12:00):
the coaches have changed, that the calendar has changed, all
of this has changed, all of this has changed, and
yet here we are. So my reaction to that particular place, well,
yes it was entertaining. It was entertaining, I'll give you that.
But my reaction to the Cowboy wide receiver Ceedee Lamb
(12:20):
being trucked in a exhibition game that he didn't even
play in, I loved it. This was exactly exactly the
kind of dopey staff that the preseason is four. That
was my first thought. Here, what a bonehead move. And
(12:41):
you can't keep your third or fourth or fifth string
this guy and that guy and these battles. You know,
some people into that kind of stuff, the analytical crowds
into that. Give me an all pro level player in
street close getting bulldozed by a referee any day. NFL films.
(13:06):
You know what they need to do. They need to
go in the hot tub time machine. Go into the
hot tub time machine and bring back the classic old
school NFL's Greatest follies. Bring that back and you can
just stream it. You don't have to do the DVD.
You don't have to do obviously the VHS, that's old tech.
But you can bring back NFL's Greatest follies and slap
(13:29):
cdee Lamb in there right in between. The mascot falling
off the ATV always a classic, always very entertaining. The
quarterback who lines up behind the guard not realizing where
they are on the field, that's also very entertaining. Put
the Dunce cap on him, and CD seemed to appreciate
(13:50):
the fact that he was the butt of the joke.
After the game and push you can have all the follies,
the usual follies, the fumbles, the ball bouncing off a
player's helmet, all that stuff just bobbled passes here, there
and everywhere. You know, guys slipping on the logo. And
(14:12):
now you can add Ceedee Lamb, the cowboy player not
in uniform and taking a shoulder from the side judge
there like he's running the Oklahoma drill and it was
very very unentertending, so instant classic and the rookie sock
puppet coach Brian Schottenheimer out there saying that CD knows better.
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He knows better, and that is the Dallas Cowboys in
a nutshell. As we said, things change, the calendar changes,
the names change, the coaches changed, and all that. But
even in August, even in August, they're still drawing thumb
penalties for nothing, for nothing at all, preseason or regular season.
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You can count on Dallas for one thing, entertainment at
their own expense, and they did it yet again.
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So our lead this hour is from the courthouse. I
am a sucker for these stories. I welcome you in here.
I do like these stories. I'm guilty as charged on this.
I enjoy these stories.
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This is an in progress, in progress story, major update,
major update about Chucky Boys, Voodoo Bugaloo Payback, and again
in progress. This is in progress, story is subject to change,
but we do the show today. We have to worry
about the show right now, and the show right now
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is this. We react to this? What is this? If
you did not hear, maybe not, maybe you're not following
the Nevada court system. But it turns out that a
Nevada court has cleared the way for a lawsuit that
goes back not one, not two, not three, but four years,
go back to the year twenty twenty one. A lot
(17:48):
of craziness, a lot of people wearing masks and not
going out and weird stuff going on. But in twenty
twenty one, there was a lawsuit filed by John grud.
Now you know is that's an old NFL coach, John Gruden.
He coached the Raiders. Yeah, so John Gruden file lawsuit.
Whell A court Nevada has announced that that lawsuit now
(18:10):
can proceed against the National Football League and Commissioner Roger
the Dodger, Goodell Roger, the Dodger, who normally dodges these
type of lawsuits. Now, that suit alleged that a malicious
and orchestrated campaign was used by the NFL to destroy
(18:33):
John Gruden's career. You might remember the NFL famously strategically
leaking all the emails that he had sent, including the
things that hit all the big ones, racism, misogynistic activity,
homophobic comments, the big three right there by John Gruden,
and old emails that were strategically leaked by the NFL.
(18:54):
That's the claim. So the Nevada Supreme Court, that's right,
the Nevada Supreme Court did they cover area fifty one. Also,
they ruled five to two, what even close. Five to
two was the ruling. And they said that the arbitration
clause in the NFL constitution is let's just say non kosher,
(19:17):
that's my term for it, but it does not apply
to John Gruden. They claimed as a former employee, that
Gruden was not an employee of the NFL at the
time the emails were sent. There for he is not
under the bylaws of the NFL. Now, Gruden his lawyers
react to the NFL. Their lawyers, they declined comment on
(19:42):
this particular rule. Did not comment, did not comment. John
Gruden's lawyer say that this will help quote hold the
NFL accountable. Okay, so let us discuss the question for
the esteem panel. John Gruden, certainly this is a win.
Whether he wins the final battle, this is a win
(20:04):
at this point for John Gruden. He wins this round.
John Gruden winning this round against the NFL in court.
What are your thoughts on these latest developments the Supreme
Court of Nevada siding against against the NFL and in
favor of John Gruden. So I've got the Jenga Tower,
Morgan Spurlock, and cosplay, and we will combine all of
(20:30):
these things together and put a billboard up that says
who hurt you? Because every time I drive one by
one of those, I just want to laugh. I just laugh.
I just chuckle. I do uh. Anyway, So my first
thought on this and the latest developments is the plot
thickens do do do do do do do do do
do do doo? Uh. It's finger Byton time. It's finger
(20:52):
Byton time for the NFL. Now, I did send some
correspondence out to people that work in that world. They
don't seem too concerned. They don't seem to concerned that
it's that hubris of the NFL. Wow, we'll ultimately win this.
It's just going to delay the inevitable. So I would argue,
though there is some finger biting going on because you
(21:13):
don't know what you don't know, and for right now,
with worry about right now, this is a seismic shift.
The NFL was not counting on to the world order
of the National Football League. John Gruten, the guy who
they tried to have disappear from the face of the earth,
(21:33):
is back. Yeah, and he's got a for now, a
wrecking ball, a wrecking ball in his hand. It's like
a Hollywood special, Worlds Collide, World's Collide. You got the
little guy, the disgraced former hero, John Gruden, who comes
back from the dead, comes back from the dead, and
(21:55):
now now he's got the villain, a big, big football,
big NFL on the ropes. It's if you combine like
Rocky and then you're throw in some sopranos in there.
It's got a little bit of that, a little bit
of that. Roger Goodell is in danger of getting the
bitter taste of his own medicine. Like the NFL tried
(22:18):
to erase John Gruden and now Goodell. You think there's
anything in his emails? You think Goodell sent any text
messages that might be considered I don't know, racist or
misogynistic or homophobic anywhere along the way. I'm just asking,
I don't know, maybe not. He's perfect, He's the archangel,
(22:39):
he would have never done anything like that at all.
The reason I bring that up is because the discovery
phase will be a hum dinger. A humdinger. Most knowledgeable
people who have looked at the case will tell you
that is more likely than not based on the prepondence
of the evidence that the NFL leaked to hand picked,
(23:04):
hand picked friends of the NFL that are in that
New York bubble, the Wall Street Journal and the New
York Times, the emails. Now, now Gruden gets to go
into discovery at this point, this is where we are.
He's gonna go in discovery and see what skeletons, uh,
he can find in the closets at the NFL.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
And they have really big walk in closets, I mean massive,
and the whole wing of the house is a closet,
and they man, is that a big closet.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
They can go in there and snoop around. And so
at this point Gruden not just knocking on the door.
He's not knocking on the door. He's got the keys
and he's gonna he's gonna have all the lights on,
turn them all on, go through everything. And it's not
just about John Gruden and some dirty emails. This is
(23:58):
about the entire power structure of the NFL. And that's
why this is so fascinating. This f's everything up. They
for years have had a choke hold on anyone that
dares fight them. And this is a look behind the curtain,
if it goes the way it's going right now, where
(24:18):
John Gruden can reveal a lot of warts, a lot
of interesting imperfections in the NFL world. And so the
Nevada Supreme Court, in so many words I'll sum it up,
told the NFL you cannot be both the judge and
the jury. That's essentially what they said. That's how I
(24:38):
interpret it. You can't have your sock puppet Commissioner Roger
Goodell arbitray a case where he's one of the defendants
in the case like that's not how you do this here.
And it's so simple, yet it is so beautiful at
the same time. I don't know what your position is.
(24:59):
My position is. It's simple, it's logical, and it's beautiful.
It's kind of like in some shady neighborhood boxing match
and you find out that you're watching the boxing match
and it just turns out that the referee in the
boxing match happens to be the uncle of the fighter
who won the boxing match, like just a coincidence, you know,
(25:21):
It's just a weird thing. So the league's very bedrock,
the very bedrock of the NFL is built on this,
and so they do whatever they want whenever they want
in NFL circles. And if you don't like it and
you want to go to court and all that stuff,
you can take it to their little kangaroo court and
they always win. They always win. It's like going to
(25:44):
Moscow and suing the government in Russia. Okay, you can
do that. You're not going to win. You're not going
to win. And so now the whole wobbly Jenga tower,
the whole giant Jenga tower, is shaking a little. It's
shaking a little bit right now Gruden has for now,
because of this Supreme Court in Nevada, he has kicked
(26:08):
one of the main legs of the Jenga tower and
he's he's kind of kicked it down a little bit.
So the NFL is essentially a mob family, right, I mean,
in so many words my understanding of what the old
mob was. And it's still mobs around and all that,
but essentially the mob, right, they do things, but they
don't do things by the book, and they've got their
own book there. And the great Brent Musburger Hall of
(26:31):
Fame broadcaster Brent musburg you're looking live, Brent Musburger said
of John Gruden. He was the Raider radio play by
play guy at the time all this went down. And
Musburger said, of John Gruden's removal as the Raiders coach,
he called it. This is Brent Musburger, a guy who
worked in the NFL since like the sixties. He said,
(26:53):
professional hit job. That's Brent Musburger. Hall of Famer Brent
Musburger said the NFL took down John Gruden on it
a professional hit job by a paid assassin is how
Musburger said it. They didn't use the usual media goombas.
Now the usual media goombas are state sponsored NFL media,
the network the NFL gets sold to ESPN or anyone
(27:15):
works at ESPN who's in the tank for the NFL.
So instead, as we mentioned, they went to the Wall
Street Journal, they went to the New York Times. That's
where they went to. And so now the tables have turned.
So they've turned, and the NFL peeps, we would imagine
we're going to start singing like canaries some of the
people involved in this if it gets to the discovery phase,
(27:36):
because emails will get exposed and text messages and they're
going to try to do the old cya cover your ass,
and that's what everyone does now. Page two. So where
where does the NFL go now to avoid publicly being
pansd publicly being pantsed by John Gruden in the discovery
(27:57):
phase of a court case. So what does the NFL
do here? So they have to get out the manny
and the petty They have to give the manny in
the petty discotus. That is where this is going. Next.
The NFL will file a formal appeal, which means lawyers
will get some more money. They're on retainer anyway, So
the NFL is gonna file a formal petition I guess,
(28:18):
not really appeal, but petition for appeal, which is an appeal,
but it's a petition for a pick. So they're going
to file a petition to the United States Supreme Court,
the highest court in the land. And if the Supreme
Court does not take the case, and they don't take
most cases, they don't take most cases, all right, or
(28:40):
if they do take the case and they rule in
favor of John Gruden, meaning the NFL loses loser capitale
l that means it is on like don't keet caong.
We're talking about the discovery phase. So listen to the NFL.
I mentioned I'd put some feelers out and then just
the early vibe I got was hubris. That's my word,
(29:02):
that not their word. But there's an arrogance that they're
gonna win in the Supreme Court and all that stuff.
The nl is not stupid. They're not smart, but they're
not stupid, and they know that the discovery phase will
be a blood bath for them and if we get there,
and so they're gonna try to cut it off at
the pass if they have to. Now they assume they're
(29:24):
gonna win because they'll just do what everyone does in
these cases, and a massage from some politicians, and that's
how it goes. And then at the other side of it,
the other option would be to work out of court
settlement with John Gruden a big bag of cash. I'm
talking the late Morgan Spurlock and supersize me. I'm talking
(29:47):
John Gruden's lawyers cooking up what do you want, John?
You want thirty forty fifty million dollars whatever you want.
The NFL is gonna pay it. You know, it's a
tax for the NFL. They'll pay it. And Gruden, you know,
he had said the quote that it keeps coming up
is he wants to burn the house down. So he's
going to tell them to shove it. You would assume, right,
(30:08):
I don't need your money. I got enough. Gruden's rich.
You paid way too much money to do bad television
and all that, so he's got a lot of money.
So if it's not about the money, it's about your reputation,
it's about the principal, and he was humiliated and all
that stuff, and he wants his pound a flash, and
then what's the NFL going to do. You know, he
(30:28):
can't settle. Gruden cannot settle, right, he can't do that.
The NFL made sure that he was radioactive. So what
Gruden could do is make Roger Goodell radioactive. There is
a scenario where Gruden, this lawsuit goes forward, Goodell ends
up losing his job as the commissioner of the NFL.
That there's definitely some skeletons there somewhere if you dig
(30:51):
deep enough in those nice walking closets, and you can
get rid of Roger Goodell. And so at this point,
John Gruden's got the league by the ball. He's got
him by the balls. And just like the man said
a famous quote, what do you do when you've got
him by the balls? You squeeze, and you keep squeezing
(31:11):
until their hearts and minds follow, and there you go.
You're on your way. Good luck on that, all right? Now,
the last word on this. We'll put the baby to
bed on this, John Gruden. So you will get your
calls if you want to react to it, and comments
and all that. But what kind last word here? What
kind of a package deal? Oh, what kind of a
package deal could get John Gruden, who has said that
(31:36):
he wants, and again his quote was, he wants to
burn the house down. So what kind of package deal
could get John Gruden to take a settlement from the NFL.
As a distant relative of Nostradamus and friend of Nostradinas,
he lives in Seattle. He doesn't really react to the
show very much anymore. But I've done the investigative work.
I've done the investigative work. So we're talking about Roger
(32:00):
Goodell doing some cosplay in this world. I believe in
the multiverse, So in this part of the multiverse, there's
some cosplay and Roger Goodell he addresses up as the
old Hollywood star Marlon Brando from back in the day
in The Godfather and says, I'm gonna make him an
offer he can't refuse John Gruden. And it's about Gruden
(32:25):
getting back in the game. The money's one thing. Gruden
not need the money. He's rich, He's made a lot
of money for a long time, so he's financially set
in that regard. In the multiverse, though, you get not
only the cartoon sized check for say fifty million dollars.
That's after taxes, After taxes, fifty million dollars, you look around.
(32:47):
You got Pete Carroll who's beginning his first year with
the team in Las Vegas, and he's the oldest coach
in the NFL. He clearly has lost it. He brought
Geno Smith in, who sucks as the Raiders quarterback. So
and we like Pete. Pet's you a nice guy and
all that, Pollyanna Pete. However, however, John Gruden, what's the
(33:10):
one thing he would love to have more than anything.
The job that he had that he thought he was
gonna have for another seven or eight years. He signed
that ten year contract to be the coach of the Raiders.
So John Gruden, with that big, greasy smile on his
face from ear to ear, cheshire cat smile, heads back
(33:31):
to Sin City coach of the Raiders. And Goodell can
make it happen, is anlisten and do us a solid here.
We'll give you the money. We'll get you the Raider
coaching job. In fact, we'll get you whatever job you
want in the NFL. You want, what job do you want?
It makes too much sense, John Gruden returning as coach
of the Raiders. And you can see it now, the
(33:52):
charismatic John Gruden saying Bygones, be Bygones back on the
sidelines there with Mark Davis is giving him a hug.
They go out to dinner at PF. Chang's and they
get the orange Chicken. They have a great time. I
remember Mark David said he never wanted to get rid
of John Gruden. In fact, if I remember Correfy doing
the show and being in the watchdower at that time.
(34:15):
The first email dump happened on like a Thursday or
a Friday, the John Gruden email dump. Gruden coached the
Raiders against the Chicago Bears, and then a second a
second wave of emails were dump because the first one
didn't work. So whoever at the NFL, in my opinion,
(34:36):
you can't sume me for my opinion. Some of the
NFL said, all right, this didn't work. We got more email,
send those out to the other newspaper that we don't
normally do business with, and you know, we'll take down.
And that worked. The second one worked. That's it. He
was gone. But Mark Davis didn't want to get rid
of John Gruden. He was forced to, so he can
(34:56):
Goodell can unforce it and bring him back and save
his own ass. At the same time, because there's stuff
in those emails for Goodell, and he'd be gone and
Gruden can stick it to the NFL's a here, I'm back.
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Now?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I'm back? And of course I don't think it's a
pipe tree. I don't believe it's a piper. This is
John Gruden's ultimate revenge. So either you tear down the
entire league, get rid of Goodell and a bunch of
other executives because you release the emails, or you take
NFL money fifty million, let's say maybe it's more than that.
They have going low at fifty million, and you take
the money and then you get whatever NFL coachingw you want.
(35:35):
It's yours, hand delivered done.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
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Speaker 1 (35:43):
Oswago mar contestants for the game. We have some people
standing by here. John is in Paradise. Something to assume.
That's Nevada where all the casinos are? No? Oh, California, Paradise, California.
Where's Paradise. Where's Paradise, California? Where is that about ten
miles north of Chico? Oh? When you think paradise, You
(36:04):
think Chico, north of Chico, that is paradise. Yeah, absolutely, yes, absolutely?
All right, Well John, welcome and you let's see here. Now,
what are you up to? You working? Are you just
driving around randomly? What's going on? Just my girlfriend's house?
(36:24):
Oh look at that. That sounds like a booty called
to me late night fun there, you know, took care
of business, your big stud, John, Right.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Come on, maybe maybe the exact opposite that way.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
That chicked out of the house at two in the morning.
Almost that sucks. That's all right, I understand, I gotcha.
Well it happens. So we'll see now, John, would you
like to play with myself Ben as your partner or
coop a loop mood you want, then I'll play with you.
(37:03):
That's how I played. I played with Eddie. We did good.
If you really want to make your girlfriend mad, you
can play with me. Yeah, right, hello John. Unfortunately Eddie
is not available. He's not working here right now, so
he's not we I did invite Eddie to the mall
or meet and greet. I don't think he's gonna go.
(37:23):
I said you can come and hang out and we
have him, you know in Vegas, and I don't think
he's gonna show up, but I did invite him. All right, John,
we'll partner uphold on a second. We have Steve in
the Bay Area Hill Steve quickly, Steve Big Thicket. Well,
Steve in the Bay Area, welcome out. You want to
play with Coop? Yes, yeah, Coop quickly? All right, Coop
quickly one of the category. Hurry up?
Speaker 7 (37:44):
All right, this is the casey Affleck edition. We have
two hundred cigarettes Ocean's eleven. I'm still here in Manchester
by the Sea.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
John, what do you want? Quickly? I'm still here. I'm
still here. Steve, what do you want? All right? Hold on,
We'll get to Malor's mount of Money. We'll get to it.
We will do it next.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
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listen live. Now, Malor's Mountain of Money? Do you have
what it takes to get to the top? Probably not?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
And right to the game we go. We have John,
who's a little north of Cheeko and Paradise, California, teamed
up with me. He just had a disagreement with his girlfriend,
and so now he's calling sports radio and we have
Steve in the Bay Area. We don't know what Steve's
up to, but he's with Coop. So let's get to
the game right now. Here we go, and it is
the Casey Affleck edition turned to fifty today. All right,
(38:49):
so you picked I'm still here, Yes, John, These athletes
have all been all been professional athletes for fifteen plus years.
They're still playing. Are you ready? I'm going to be
all right on forty five seconds on the clock. We're
on our way go. Starting quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yes, Cory,
he won a Super Bowl. It was called the Elite
(39:10):
with the Ravens. He's the Browns quarterback right now. Yes.
Starting pitcher for the San Francisco Giants. Longtime Detroit Tiger
played for the cheating Astros. Yes, last name is like Romance.
He played for the Minnesota Timberwolves, the Miami Heat, at
Cleveland Cavaliers. He's a forward white guy out of U
(39:32):
c l A sure, Yes, that's right. A closer for
the Angels. He used to play with the Dodgers, played
with the Red Sox. All right, center for the ah
You did hundred points. You didn't get Wenley Jansen James.
(39:56):
All right, Steve, we have Manchester by the Seed. These
athletes are from Massachusetts. Are you ready, Steve?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
I'm ready?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
All right.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Forty five seconds let's begin. Famous professional wrestler in movies,
not the Rock. You can't see him, No, all right,
a professional wrestler. He's in movies, but not the Rock. Yes,
all right. This guy is Terry Bradshaw's partner on the
NFL on Fox. He was a defensive end for the Raiders. Yes,
(40:27):
this guy was part of the Killer Bees in Houston.
Not Craig Beegio the other guy. Well say that the
whole name. Yes, this guy was a He led the
Seahawks to the Super Bowl in two thousand and five.
With yes, Yes, good job. This guy was a white
(40:48):
guy on the bad Boy.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Piston that I think it's funny. All Right, we go next, quick, John,
What do you want? You want Ocean's eleven or two?
Order cigarettes? John? All right? These athletes were all known
to smoke. Forty five seconds were on our way center
for the nineteen eighties Lakers. He played for the Sacramento Kings.
(41:11):
He's got a beard, was the GM of the Kings,
that is correct, manager of the Pirates. He was chained smoking.
Back in the eighties when he had Barry Bonds, he
managed the Detroit Tigers, Ben. She does not want that
we won the game.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Another win you congratulations John, the all time win
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