November 1, 2025 • 37 mins
Big Ben talks about Aaron Rodgers falling short against his former team as the Steelers lose to the Packers on SNF, the Commanders looking feeble against the rising Kansas City Chiefs, Maller's Mountain of Money: Joaquin Phoenix Edition, and more!
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show be. So our lead this hour to begin the
festific is gonna start out with the Sunday Night game
in the Land of the Insurs, the Land of the Injurs.
That's the story big game made for TV extravaganza there
and we go to the confluence. Now why do we
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go to the confluence because that's where they played the game,
Right there, where the Monongahela and the Alleghany get together.
They have a baby and the baby is the Ohio River.
So that is the birth of the Ohio right there.
It's very public the PDA type display there and so
that is where the story was. Mike Tarriko, Chris Collinsworth.
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Collinsworth had his knee pads out for the quarterbacks as
he always does there and if you.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Didn't see the game.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Maybe not eh, it was a game for a half,
game for a half in a quarter about a quarter
not so good.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
So we watched so you would not have to.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
As Jordan Love passed for almost almost four hundred yards
and not one, not two, but three touchdowns as Green Bay,
after falling behind at halftime, sprinted past the Pittsburg Steelers
in the second half. Now, the better story, though, is
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in the losing locker room. So that is where we
will begin. And despite him down playing it, saying, well,
it was not a revenge game.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
It will be different.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
It was at Lambeau. That'd be Aaron Rodgers. Now, Aaron
Rodgers was put on a pedestal. He was absolutely put
on a pedestal here, and he went against his old team.
We all know the backstory, right, we all know it.
You'll listen to a sports talk radio show late at
night here, you know the backstory. So Rogers was out
there doing his thing, and how did that go?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Not good? Not good?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Rogers pathetic in the second half in particular there and
we'll get into it. But here's Rogers, first of all,
pointing out that things just didn't go right in many
areas including paying attention to what you're supposed to do.
Here's Rogers complaining about the execution of the Steelers.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
We had some discipline issues and some penalties everyone necessary,
and then you're not going to win a lot of
games when we're so bad on third down. Bos bailed
us out some four incredible kicks, But you're playing good
teams and need to score toestdowns and we just stalled
out in the high red zone.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
All right, so let us discuss. That's a good jumping
off point. So the question, how do you.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Explain ain Rogers' performance or lack thereof for Pittsburgh in
the second half. So I've got Tommy Hill, figure, eye wash,
and tiki bar, and we will combine all of these
things together and we are going to make an outstanding
rice cake, which is about what the Steelers were in
the second half, a rice case.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
As you know, it's disgusting rice cakes. Who wants to
eat that crap?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So A, so much for the Aaron Rodgers payback for
ve game and all that stuff, which he tried to downplay,
but Mike got and Rodgers was a big part of it.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
With the defense was embarrassing. We'll get to that here
in a minute.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Even if the Packers had not gotten the benefit of
being able to bait the Steeler playoffs because they're undisciplined
into excessive penalties, even if that had not been the case,
the way the Steelers tackled it would not have mattered.
We're starting out with Aaron Rodgers here, So Aaron Rodgers,
who was okay. I wouldn't say he was great in
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the first half. He was okay in the first half.
He watched the game, forget the stats, just watched the game.
And then the second half. If he was the at
the movie theater, he would have been what kind of
snack at the movie theater?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
He would have been a milk.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Dud, is what he would have been. It was an
absolute dud. The shine came off Aaron Rodgers in the
second half there real quick in the steel City. And
the first half. I wouldn't say he was great. I
would say he was function functional in the in the
first half of the game. I thought in the second
half there was system malfunction from Aaron Rodgers, and.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
It's like someone went in there and unplugged the motive.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It's like the motem got unplugged and he couldn't get connected,
he couldn't get online.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Like everything was kind of.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Messed up there. It's like, what's up with that? The
Steelers actually had a nine point lead at halftime. They're
up sixteen to seven. Not riveting football, but they're up
by nine points. They got the ball to start the
third quarter. Every meatthead ex jock that gets a micro oh,
they have all the moment of oh my god, they
have all the moment of la la la, shoving up
your tuckers. They had all the momentum, all them more metium.
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The Pittsburgh Steelers had all of them, all metium. Then
they had to play the game, and they rode the
vomit comet in the second half momentum, I ass outscored
twenty eight to night. It should have been worse than that.
In fact, in many ways it was worse than that.
It was really twenty eight to three in the second
and a half. There was a late touchdown there. But that
is not just a leak. Okay, that is a full
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on pipe burst in the basement, is what that is
what happened in the second half of this game. And
so they got that late touchdown. The garbage time touchdown
was a little bit of a sprits little sprits that
was some Tommy Hill figure cologne there right on top
of a clogged toilet, which was the Steelers in the
second half, and they just put a little spritz of
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Tommy Hill figure.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Cologne on there, right on top of the.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Toilet was clogged up Rogers in the second half. If
you take away the charity score game Packers were playing
them would just prevent type defense situation. They had a
two score lead, two scores and two two point conversions,
and so then Pittsburgh goes down the field, they drive
down with Rogers and they score a touchdown with a
couple of minutes to.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Go in the game.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You take that away because it's really a cheap, garbage
time score. The rest of the second half, Rogers averaged
less than five yards per pass in the second half.
He basically handing it off sideways was the way you
would describe the Pittsburgh Steelers' offense there. And people will
point out the overall numbers for Rogers are not terrible,
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and in fact, some would say they're even good if
you just go by the pure stats. Aaron Rodgers overall
passer rating even after this game on Sunday Night, where
he was not very good in the second half, Rogers
still has a higher passer rating at this point. We're
at week eight of the season now the Packers and
Steelers next time they play will be week nine. So
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Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes do not have as good
a quarterback rating as Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
If I had said in the offseason, if I said
back in.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
July, all right, whenever Rogers signed, maybe be like August,
whenever you finally sign. So we're gonna be sitting on
the NFL schedule week nine, going in to.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Pass the midway point.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
It's seventeen games, so eight and a half weeks is
the midway point of the NFL season. So we're gonna
go in there and Rogers is going to have a
higher passer rating than Mahomes and Josh Allen. He said, okay,
all right, we got something here, all right to Steelers
are going to be great watch out and yeah, and
this is again for those people that dry hump stats.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
And stats tell you what has happened, not what's going
to happen, but.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
They also they also tell you a cloudy version of
events that took place, a foggy version of events that
took place. For example, it's like, would you rather read
sheet music? Because you love music, you want to read
the sheet music rather than hear the song. I would
rather hear the song. The stats are the sheet music, right,
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that's the musical notes on there. But you really would
rather hear the song rather than just read it. You
get the whole vibe and all that you watch the game.
The mood, Oh, it's all about the mood. The mood
changed after afterime Rogers flat lined and the Packers' offense
or Packer's offense did whatever they wanted while Rogers on
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the other side with the Steelers forget about it now.
Speaking of that, turning the page here, Jordan Love became
the first Hackers quarterbacks since Brett Farvre to complete twenty
straight passes in a game. Farv did it way back
in seven. I was barely alive then.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I was like a kid. I remember Rogers having a
big game, but I.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Was a child, So twenty oh seven for that performance there.
That was his final season in Green Bay, where he
was having problems with Aaron Rodgers and so far then left,
went to the Jets and then the vikings and all that,
and so so be it. But the question is not
so much about Jordan Love. It's the other side. What
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on God's green earth was that by Mike Tomlins Pittsburgh
Steelers defense. What happened to making adjustments? What happened to
improving as the season goes on? Now, we saw the
Pittsburgh Steelers get sliced up by Joe Flacco. So you
took the position that they were going to make that
a point of emphasis, and they were going to cut
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down on their mistakes there and clean stuff up. They
had a mini bye week, they being the Pittsburgh Steelers.
How did that go? The adjustments were nonexistent, they were
non existent. The Steelers defense just stood there like they
were watching a matt Na at the Cinerama Dome. They
were just enjoying buttered popcorn.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Whatever. What was that?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Horrific? Unacceptable, absolutely unaccepted. Here's Mike Tomlin commenting on one
of the most pathetic defensive performances you'll see in the
Black and Yellow, Black and Yellow, Black and Yellow Tail is.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
You know, we all have to own it. Certainly you
start with the schematics, man, because you know that's the
leadership component of it, and certainly we'll be looking at
everything that we're doing, man, because some of these problems
are somewhat repetitive and we're not getting better fast enough. Mike,
I'm not gonna talk too much tonight. We'll take a
look at it. As I mentioned, they made some significant
plays on possession down ball and you know, you got
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to get off on third down.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Okay, got it so very important to get off according
to Mike Tom It's all right. So anyway, it's like
they went to the cinerama doom as I said, they
had the buttered pop going there and oh my god.
Now maybe it was just my TV. Sometimes my TV
sees things that other TVs don't see. I have no idea,
but I saw these Steelers playing. I call it the
cover m defense, as in the cover Matador.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Alright, alright, alright, oay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
If you want miss tackles, check the Steelers are really
good at miss tackles, really good. If you want arm tackles,
they got those two. A lot of arm tackles, a
lot of arm tackles. You want poor pursuit ankle angles
where they come at the wrong direction. You know how
you're supposed to cut down the path.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
They don't do that. Never never see that.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
It's essentially a video on how not to play defense
in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
What the Steelers are doing on a weekly basis.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
There's a lot of people on defense in the secondary
in particular, that are making business decisions, if you know
what I'm saying here. And he allowed the Packers tied end.
Who's a good player, Tucker Craft, who is not that
good a player? My god, Tucker Craft. He went yakty
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yack yards after the catch. There no pushback. And what
I've noticed, and the kicker on this, is that they're
the most expensive defense, they being the Pittsburgh Seris and
the entire NFL. They spend more money on defense than
anyone else. They're giving up now thirty plus points most games.
They played seven games, four of the seven they've allowed
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thirty or more points per game. That's the Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Steelers at this particular point.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
And the one game where they looked okay against Drake
May and the Patriots, that was more of a byproduct
because the Patriots, I think they had five turnovers in
that game. That was the Ramando Stevenson fumble fumble game. There,
but it's not bad luck. It's like I look at
the series we've seen them now in Island games, the
last couple of games against the Bengals and against the
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Green Bay Packers, and it's just systemic.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Rot is what it is. I mean, they're just they're
not anywhere close to being good.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Now. I get I made the mistake was handicapping the games.
Mike Tom's gonna go in there, going to the workshop
and figure some things out. It doesn't look like they
figured anything out at all. And so listen, listen, they're
gonna end up winning nine or ten games. They're over
five hundred. As bad as the defense is, they're still
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over five hundred. They're a fake contender. They're in the
fake contender zone. The Pittsburgh Steels at this point, just
enough there to kind of trick people into thinking may
matter and that anybody.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Can win it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It's wide open in the AFC here and nobody is
scared of that defense. But the thing about it too, though,
is you see the guys and it's it's eyewash in
the secondary.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
That's the term here.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It's the fake hustle where they're kind of around the ball.
But it looks like they're not. Just based on the
eyeball test, it looks like they're not hustling. It's eye washes. Hustles,
stunt double, that's what eye washes, right, It's guys flying
around just enough to get on cameras. So it looks
like for the low information fan that they're in position
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and looks like they cared and looks like they're trying,
and yet they're not. This is just ridiculous. So that's
where we are on that.
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we were giving a curveball the plan. The show was
put to bed and we had the baby woke up.
The baby was put to bed, the baby woke up.
So the Dodgers are still playing. We have live baseball,
which is great because all these people are bitching and complaining.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I don't understand these games are going so long. I
don't come my God, shut up. Welcome to my world,
you losers, Welcome to my world. So the Dodgers and
Blue Jays are tied at five. They've gone now that
I know.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Is that cheating.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
They pulled out the the sliced watermelon and pineapple.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It looked like to me pineapple.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
They're the Dodgers eating snacks in the dugout and they
are now going to the bottom of the sixteenth inning
at tra Vesarino. I want this game to end either
in the bottom of the sixteenth or the seventeenth, because
I was at the game to win eighteen innings, so
I don't want to see this game, this World Series game,
go more than eighteen because that would then cheapen the
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game that I was at Red Sox and Dwyers in
the World Series years ago. When Max Muntsey hit the
home run. The game ended one in the morning, right
around one in the morning. It was after midnight. I
remember that it was after midnight. So anyway, that is
what's going on right now. So we will we will
watch that, but we will be talking about something other
than that right now, because there is more to discuss
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and more to break down, and so our lead story
this hour from Arrowheads Stadium in Cannes City. It was
KC and the Sunshine Band, and that is the lead
the stage for the final game of Week number eight.
Week number eight of the NFL eight one of the
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absolute worst. By the way, the product could not have
been less enjoyable if you want competitive games. In fact,
going back to nineteen seventy, this was, if not the
largest margin, it was in the top two or three
all time in the history of the NFL. I know
going into the Monday night game. It was in the discussion.
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It depends on how you spin the stats. How bad
this was, but a weekend of blowouts wrapped up with
backup quarterback as Marcus Mariota leading the hobbled Commanders into
Kansas City that played eight there with Patrick Mahomes and
the Chiefs, you had Joe Buck and Troy Aikman on
the call.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
There were you watching? Did you watch? Were you engaged
in this? You were not? Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
So Patrick Mahomes, by his standard, struggled early in the game.
The first half was a bit of a dud all
the way around, a lot of turnovers, a lot of bad,
sloppy football. And then by the time the game ended,
Mahomes we love round numbers. He was one yard away
from a nice, sexy three hundred yards passing at two
undred ninety nine yards, ended up with three touchdowns. Kareem
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Hunt found peterrt hit the end zone twice, and the
Chiefs defense in the second half it looked like they
wanted to get out of there. There being Washington as
Kansas City hog tied the Commanders in the final thirty
minutes of that football game. So Kansas City pulls away
and they win by three touchdowns twenty eight to seven.
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I am told that's good. I didn't play in the NFL,
but I'm told that's good on a nice cold October night,
just days away from Halloween. Now, the better story is
in the losing locker room. The better story is in
the losing locker room, and the Commander fans very upset,
very upset with dan Quinn, a lot of range, a
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lot of anger with the way the Commanders played in
the second half.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Of that game.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And a lot of the conversation is not even so
much about how bad the Commanders looked in the second half.
It's the apathetic appearance of the players on the Washington
football team who were so happy after they got their
face smashed in by the Chiefs and people up in
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arms over that, that they were smiling and having a
grand old time playing grab ass at the end of
the game there on the sidelines. The postgame handshake was
like a college party. My god, were they having a
good time? People upset with that, And so that's a
good jumping off point. Let us discuss the question does
dan Quinn deserve the heat that he's getting in the
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cyber Warfare department for the Commander's performance? Does he deserve
some heat for that? Now, my observation on this, I've
got Brad pitt Child's play and Circus Circus, and we
will combine all of these things together and we are
going to get an end to Game three of the
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World Series that's going to have We're gonna end game
three of the World Series.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
But number.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
To answer the question, does dan Quinn deserve the crap
that he's getting. I'm nodding my head, yes, I'm nodding
my head.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
On that. Now, dan Quinn's Commanders, I'm old enough to
remember that they were in the final four of the
National Football League at the end of last season, and
here they are out there, smiling like they were to
charity golf outing somewhere in Maryland, just having a grand
old time. They were out playing golf with some politicians and.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Just let me have some lemonade? Is that spiked lemonade?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
They didn't act like they just got pants in the
second half by Kansas City, which is what happened on
National TV, by the way, in an Island game, although
not a full Island game, because I was flipping back
and my right hand was getting a workout. If I
had only known the Dodgers and Blue Jays would play
all night, I wouldn't even bother to watch the first
part of the game. I just would have focused on
the football game. But I was going back and forth.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
And all that.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
So the Commanders end up on the wrong side, and
then all the shenanigans after the game there as Washington
did catch lightning in a bottle, and I caught lightning
at a bottle last year. That was supposed to be
the foundation. That's what I was told. The smart people said,
this is the foundation.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
This is it.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
The NFL's final four NFC Championship game in Philadelphia, win
away from getting the Super Bowl, and.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Right there, one win.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Now, let's see some inventory on where the Commanders are.
We're at a checkpoint week eight. Now, I realized they
play seventeen games, so it's not quite the halfway point,
but nonetheless, for talk radio purposes, we will examine this
as the middling point of the NFL season. So where
is Washington one year after they were right on the
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cusp of the top of the NFL. So they have
been come tumbling down, down, down, down, down, down.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Down, down, down, down down.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's where they are right now. And so they have
gone from punching above their weight, which is what they
did last year. Now they have gone down to the
corner bakery and they've ordered a pie, not an apple,
not a pumpkin, not the banana cream pie. They've gone
to the corner bakery and the Commanders have ordered a
big humble pie, and they're cutting up the humble pie
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right now. Although they don't seem to be that worried
based on their postgame celebration. You want to give at
least the deception that you actually care. So Defensively, the
Commanders currently are ranked twenty seventh in the NFL. I'm
told that's not good the offense. How about the office
the Commander's offense?
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Here? Okay, this group, I know Jadon Daniels has been hurt.
Middle of the pack.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
There's sixteenth in the NFL. Now I recall, and maybe
I'm wrong on this. You can touch up my work
if you want. Cliff Kingsbury was the second coming of
the Messiah as the offensive genius for the Washington Commanders.
It is amazing. How'd that go? Well, don't ask this year. Now,
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here's the thing about the Commanders watching this team plan.
I saw him in person a few weeks back against
the Chargers, and they actually played well in that game.
But the thing I look at Washington is they're not
bad enough the Commanders to be a lovable train wreck.
So they're not at that point, and they're not good
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enough to really matter. They're just kind of stuck in
the Bermuda Triangle of the NFL. They're stuck in football
purgatory at this point. And as far as the I
guess we'll call it, what is the heel? A monster
in the room here? Postgame? It was like a country club.
But is it always like I don't like understand the rage.
It's always like that at NFL games. They love other
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NFL players and they cannot wait to hug it out.
It's warm and fuzzy at the end of every NFL game,
with few exceptions, with few exceptions. Now there are exceptions,
but you'd think think that the Washington football team was
hosting a nice brunch with sliced meats and sliced cheeses
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and they hadn't just gotten their teeth kicked in in
the second half by the team from Kansas City. But
if you're dan Quinn, okay, if you're dan Quinn, to me,
that's on you. He's supposed to be a happy, go
lucky coach and all that. That's fine, but at least
give the illusion that you were slightly bobbed.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
And this is always the issue.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Right we who invest our time as fans, we get
emotionally attached the players don't get emotionally attached. It's their gig,
it's their job. They don't understand why you're so into it.
Just chill out, man, It's just a game. And so
we want to go on there and make out at
the fifty yard line after we just got are ass kicked.
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We're going to do that. We are going to do
that is what we're going to do. Yes, So, how
bad was it for the Washington commanders? Was so bad
that dan Quinn should hire Brad Pitt. Bring Brad Pitty in.
Remember that famous scene from Moneyball where he was portraying
Billy Bean and they were in the locker room and
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he said, hey, you think losing is fun?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
You think losing is fun?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
And then the player on the athletics said, well no, okay,
Well if the answer is no, it's not fun, then
what the hell are you smiling for. By the way,
they played thirty minutes of football, they were tied at halftime.
The Washington football team, I believe at that point they
started warming up the diesel engines on the buses and
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they wanted to make sure that the water in the
shower was warm as well. They had just sixty six
yards of offense in the second half, and if my
math is correct, I drotted this chicken scratch down four
first downs in the second half, which I'm told is
not good. And they were big underdogs, double digit dogs.
They being Washington going into this game, they were expected
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to lose, they were expected to be.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Blown out out.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
They actually had the game in position at halftime to
scratch and claw and make it a fourth quarter game,
to put the pressure on Kansas City. And instead of
doing that.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Well, they did the opposite.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
They just got in the fetal position, started sucking their
thumb and that was it. Mahomes got going, the defense
started crushing people, and that was it. Game over. Absolute
weak sauce, Absolute week sauce. Now on the other side.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Page two.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
So we go now to the Kansas City side of things,
where things are buzzing. You can almost hear it. There's
a buzz in the air. It's almost everywhere. Yes, So question,
are you gonna go thumbs up or are you gonna
(27:53):
go thumbs down? Thumbs upper, thumbs down on Andy Reid's
Chiefs being back in the catbird seat metaphorically in the AFC.
All right, that is the question. So thumb to the
moon way up. I'm going to the moon, thumb way
up to the moon. Now this game, you don't get
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any style points. It was a blowout win. It was
close at halftime. This was what I would call a
workman like effort for the Kansas City Chiefs. Here punched
the clock the old I can't really say lunch pail
because all these guys are millionaires, but you get the point.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Back in the old days, we'd say lunch pail type game.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
And all of a sudden, all of a sudden, Patrick
Mahomes looks like the vintage Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Yet again he does.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
He's got his toys back at wide receiver, He's got
his playmakers back. I know Keg drinking. Steve's excited about that.
And so Mahomes is cooking with a flamethrower at this point.
So it turns out the reports of Mahomes and the
Chiefs demise, well, they were cute while they lasted greatly exaggerated.
Mahomes looked in the second half like he was taking
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batting practice at five point thirty and hitting those batting
practice fastballs out of the park. Washington had nothing in
the second half. Now, some of that was Mahomes. Some
of that was Mahomes and what he was doing with
Kansas City. They got off to the zero to two start.
They are now five and one, and the one loss
in there was the play that they quit against Jacksonville.
(29:24):
Remember the defense quit. They were caught on camera lollygagging,
allowing Trevor Lawrence to fall down twice and get up
and score a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
So that's on them.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
So you could make the argument there's a dimension in
the multiverse where they are six and oho and they're
lurking in the playoff picture like Michael Myers behind the
curtain there. Now nobody think about this, Nobody in the AFC.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Nobody in the.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
AFC, he said, well, Indianapolis a little bit, but nobody
in the AFC West has been able to capitalize on
that early facepoint. The Chargers won all these divisional games earlier.
All right, there you go, this is the Chargers year.
Everything's great. They're set up. Boom boom boom, division win,
division win, division win, They're ready to go. And now
we look like we look at it right now and yeah,
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face plan. So the division led by the Chargers early
and they had a shot to bury Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
They didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
We all know that. Nobody in the AFC West took
advantage of it. As we said, so the division is
still up for grabs at this point. And now Kansas City.
As of right now, the Chiefs are back in the
playoff picture. They are the last team in the wild
card around. They're the last team in the playoffs at
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this point and still have a shot to be the
number one seed in the Also, the schedule sets up
nicely Kansas City. There is no momentum, so we know that. However,
they are playing with some confidence.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Now they have up ahead.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
If you look, you've got the Bills, Broncos, and Colts
upcoming is also by mixed in and so those are
massive swing games both in the division and then just
the overall hierarchy in the AFC down down the line.
So Kansas City, I'm trying to say, if you like
horror movies, Kansas City this season it's like that classic
(31:20):
Child's Play.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Remember that movie.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
It's all movie now, all my references are old, I guess,
but Child's Play, and that was where Chucky was at.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
The beginning of the movie.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
There he was burned, shot and dismembered, and somehow, because
it's Hollywood, managed to come back. Why not Kansas City
to begin the year was burn shot and dismembered, And
they have come back now and they're right in the
middle of it in the AFC and Mahomes is breathing
like a dragon with fire. Andy Reid's is suddenly smart again,
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and we're on our way. Of course, the conspiracy theorist
will so well, yeah but yeah but yeah, but yeah
about the NFL wants someone to win, He goes, Taylor Swipt,
Yeah but yeah but yeah it yeah but yeah but
yeah it yeah but yeah it Rabbit the yeabbit Rabbit.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
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Speaker 4 (32:05):
I agree, Do you.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Have what it takes to get to the top?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Probably not, Let's do it. Welcome to Archancessys. We've got
any meanie mighty most. Sam is in Iowa. Hello Sam, Welcome.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Sam's full of energy, he's excited to be here, and
he's a man.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Of many words.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Welcome Sam. You're gonna play the game. Who do you
want to partner up with? Sam?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Okay, he's gonna play with Ben Lorena. I'm shocked he
didn't pick me up. I can't believe that. Hold on
a sex, Sam, and we have keg.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Drinking Steve in Ken'saw City.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Hello, man, what a record breaking night?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Did you see?
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Mary?
Speaker 4 (32:48):
We don't have time.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Geez to the other guy hung up, So you gotta
play with you gotta play.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Play with Lorena?
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Man, Mary hart Is okay? All right, you're a nadho
what he or what he is? Okay? All right, let's
play the game.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
You're not playing with Lorena, Steve, play the game, all right?
Speaker 4 (33:08):
All right? Stop? What is the is the was it
the Walking and Phoenix edition? Yes?
Speaker 8 (33:13):
He's fifty one years old? To happy birthday?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Ah the joker?
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
All right.
Speaker 9 (33:17):
The categories are eight millimeter, Gladiator, the Immigrant, and Napoleon.
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Sam?
Speaker 9 (33:23):
Which category would you like? Gladiator? Alright, Steve?
Speaker 8 (33:27):
How about you?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
The Immigrant?
Speaker 8 (33:31):
The Immigrant? All right?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Right, very good?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I love Immigrant?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Okay, thank you, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
All right, here we go. Let's play the game right now.
You picked Sam and Iowa a man a few words.
You picked Gladiator. These athletes were all part of notable fights.
Are you ready? Sam?
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah? All right, we need the first and last name,
and we're on our way.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Go. Star defensive player for the Cleveland Browns right now,
all right, the worm for the Chicago Bulls in the
nineteen eighties, the Paces.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Yeah, all right, thank you you. I'll take credit for it.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
He changed his name. He played for the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
He started the malice at the palace at basketball player
player That is correct. Picture for the Red Sox, not
Kurt Shilling, but the number one picture for that Red
Sox team that won the World Series from the Dominican Republic,
that is correct. Got into a fight with Robin, got
into a fight with Nolan Ryan. A fight with Nolan
(34:34):
Ryan got his He said that did not Yes, you did, Yes,
said Rob, said Rob. I just said Robins.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
That does not count.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
He said ninety I said Rob, all right, I did say,
I said Rob. Rob.
Speaker 9 (34:48):
We said we are we have Rob Parker. The immigrants,
these athletes were Rob Parker. These athletes were all born
in another country.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
You're getting all.
Speaker 9 (34:59):
Right, see forty five seconds on the clock. Let's begin.
Japanese slugger for the Dodgers. Full name.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Heydani.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
Yes, okay, thank you. This guy's the star player on
the Lakers. He's from like Slovenia.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Uh Luca.
Speaker 9 (35:19):
Yes, this guy was a Canadian on the Philadelphia the
Phoenix Suns.
Speaker 8 (35:24):
He won like a couple MVPs.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Oh uh, all right.
Speaker 9 (35:29):
This guy was a slugger from the Dominican Republic for
the Angels. People are considering him to be a manager Albert. Yes,
this guy was nicknamed the Nigerian Nightmare. No, this guy
was a Polish kicker for the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Kicker Christian friend, you went for.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
The joke, so we have we have seventy seventy alright, Steve,
we're back up.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
Do you want eight millimeter or Napoleon?
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Napoleon?
Speaker 8 (36:05):
No, it's Steve.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
It's Steve.
Speaker 9 (36:07):
You're gonna gets all right, all right, Steve, We've got Napoleon.
These athletes were all considered short in their sport. Ah okay,
all right, forty five seconds. Let's begin. He's the short
quarterback for the Cardinals. Right now, the.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Guy that doesn't play video games, Kyler Murray.
Speaker 9 (36:28):
Yes, yes, this guy was on the Seahawks and the Broncos.
Now he's a backup on the Giants. Well man, mister unlimited. Okay, yes,
this guy was a cheating astro. He's like five to five.
He's a cheating astro. He's like five to five.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, I know, little guy.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Okay, how about.
Speaker 9 (36:54):
This guy's got the same name as the famous point
guard from the Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
No, but he's on there, doesn't doubt.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Who's the shortest player of all time? Oh you didn't
get it. He said the name.
Speaker 8 (37:08):
He said the name. That count hundred.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
That's one hundred point.
Speaker 8 (37:13):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Let's go, Steve, all right here.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
We are tam but Sam, all right, yeah, these are
these all War number eight? They all War number eight.
Are you ready, Sam?
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:23):
All right?
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Uh, star of the Star of the nineteen seventies Pittsburgh Pirates.
We are family hit tail a record back African American
guy hit tons of home runs for the Pirate.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Yeah, all right, there you go, shut up.
Speaker 8 (37:39):
Not yours.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Greatest punter of all time for the Raiders. He's not
a man, he's a rod.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
We win ms name.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Let's go way. Muggsy folks did not count. Muggsy did
not count.
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festific is gonna start out with the Sunday Night game
in the Land of the Insurs, the Land of the Injurs.
That's the story big game made for TV extravaganza there
and we go to the confluence. Now why do we
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go to the confluence because that's where they played the game,
Right there, where the Monongahela and the Alleghany get together.
They have a baby and the baby is the Ohio River.
So that is the birth of the Ohio right there.
It's very public the PDA type display there and so
that is where the story was. Mike Tarriko, Chris Collinsworth.
(02:40):
Collinsworth had his knee pads out for the quarterbacks as
he always does there and if you.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Didn't see the game.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Maybe not eh, it was a game for a half,
game for a half in a quarter about a quarter
not so good.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
So we watched so you would not have to.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
As Jordan Love passed for almost almost four hundred yards
and not one, not two, but three touchdowns as Green Bay,
after falling behind at halftime, sprinted past the Pittsburg Steelers
in the second half. Now, the better story, though, is
(03:18):
in the losing locker room. So that is where we
will begin. And despite him down playing it, saying, well,
it was not a revenge game.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
It will be different.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
It was at Lambeau. That'd be Aaron Rodgers. Now, Aaron
Rodgers was put on a pedestal. He was absolutely put
on a pedestal here, and he went against his old team.
We all know the backstory, right, we all know it.
You'll listen to a sports talk radio show late at
night here, you know the backstory. So Rogers was out
there doing his thing, and how did that go?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Not good? Not good?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Rogers pathetic in the second half in particular there and
we'll get into it. But here's Rogers, first of all,
pointing out that things just didn't go right in many
areas including paying attention to what you're supposed to do.
Here's Rogers complaining about the execution of the Steelers.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
We had some discipline issues and some penalties everyone necessary,
and then you're not going to win a lot of
games when we're so bad on third down. Bos bailed
us out some four incredible kicks, But you're playing good
teams and need to score toestdowns and we just stalled
out in the high red zone.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
All right, so let us discuss. That's a good jumping
off point. So the question, how do you.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Explain ain Rogers' performance or lack thereof for Pittsburgh in
the second half. So I've got Tommy Hill, figure, eye wash,
and tiki bar, and we will combine all of these
things together and we are going to make an outstanding
rice cake, which is about what the Steelers were in
the second half, a rice case.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
As you know, it's disgusting rice cakes. Who wants to
eat that crap?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So A, so much for the Aaron Rodgers payback for
ve game and all that stuff, which he tried to downplay,
but Mike got and Rodgers was a big part of it.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
With the defense was embarrassing. We'll get to that here
in a minute.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Even if the Packers had not gotten the benefit of
being able to bait the Steeler playoffs because they're undisciplined
into excessive penalties, even if that had not been the case,
the way the Steelers tackled it would not have mattered.
We're starting out with Aaron Rodgers here, So Aaron Rodgers,
who was okay. I wouldn't say he was great in
(05:29):
the first half. He was okay in the first half.
He watched the game, forget the stats, just watched the game.
And then the second half. If he was the at
the movie theater, he would have been what kind of
snack at the movie theater?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
He would have been a milk.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Dud, is what he would have been. It was an
absolute dud. The shine came off Aaron Rodgers in the
second half there real quick in the steel City. And
the first half. I wouldn't say he was great. I
would say he was function functional in the in the
first half of the game. I thought in the second
half there was system malfunction from Aaron Rodgers, and.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
It's like someone went in there and unplugged the motive.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It's like the motem got unplugged and he couldn't get connected,
he couldn't get online.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Like everything was kind of.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Messed up there. It's like, what's up with that? The
Steelers actually had a nine point lead at halftime. They're
up sixteen to seven. Not riveting football, but they're up
by nine points. They got the ball to start the
third quarter. Every meatthead ex jock that gets a micro oh,
they have all the moment of oh my god, they
have all the moment of la la la, shoving up
your tuckers. They had all the momentum, all them more metium.
(06:35):
The Pittsburgh Steelers had all of them, all metium. Then
they had to play the game, and they rode the
vomit comet in the second half momentum, I ass outscored
twenty eight to night. It should have been worse than that.
In fact, in many ways it was worse than that.
It was really twenty eight to three in the second
and a half. There was a late touchdown there. But that
is not just a leak. Okay, that is a full
(06:57):
on pipe burst in the basement, is what that is
what happened in the second half of this game. And
so they got that late touchdown. The garbage time touchdown
was a little bit of a sprits little sprits that
was some Tommy Hill figure cologne there right on top
of a clogged toilet, which was the Steelers in the
second half, and they just put a little spritz of
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Tommy Hill figure.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Cologne on there, right on top of the.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Toilet was clogged up Rogers in the second half. If
you take away the charity score game Packers were playing
them would just prevent type defense situation. They had a
two score lead, two scores and two two point conversions,
and so then Pittsburgh goes down the field, they drive
down with Rogers and they score a touchdown with a
couple of minutes to.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Go in the game.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You take that away because it's really a cheap, garbage
time score. The rest of the second half, Rogers averaged
less than five yards per pass in the second half.
He basically handing it off sideways was the way you
would describe the Pittsburgh Steelers' offense there. And people will
point out the overall numbers for Rogers are not terrible,
(08:02):
and in fact, some would say they're even good if
you just go by the pure stats. Aaron Rodgers overall
passer rating even after this game on Sunday Night, where
he was not very good in the second half, Rogers
still has a higher passer rating at this point. We're
at week eight of the season now the Packers and
Steelers next time they play will be week nine. So
(08:24):
Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes do not have as good
a quarterback rating as Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
If I had said in the offseason, if I said
back in.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
July, all right, whenever Rogers signed, maybe be like August,
whenever you finally sign. So we're gonna be sitting on
the NFL schedule week nine, going in to.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Pass the midway point.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
It's seventeen games, so eight and a half weeks is
the midway point of the NFL season. So we're gonna
go in there and Rogers is going to have a
higher passer rating than Mahomes and Josh Allen. He said, okay,
all right, we got something here, all right to Steelers
are going to be great watch out and yeah, and
this is again for those people that dry hump stats.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
And stats tell you what has happened, not what's going
to happen, but.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
They also they also tell you a cloudy version of
events that took place, a foggy version of events that
took place. For example, it's like, would you rather read
sheet music? Because you love music, you want to read
the sheet music rather than hear the song. I would
rather hear the song. The stats are the sheet music, right,
(09:32):
that's the musical notes on there. But you really would
rather hear the song rather than just read it. You
get the whole vibe and all that you watch the game.
The mood, Oh, it's all about the mood. The mood
changed after afterime Rogers flat lined and the Packers' offense
or Packer's offense did whatever they wanted while Rogers on
(09:52):
the other side with the Steelers forget about it now.
Speaking of that, turning the page here, Jordan Love became
the first Hackers quarterbacks since Brett Farvre to complete twenty
straight passes in a game. Farv did it way back
in seven. I was barely alive then.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I was like a kid. I remember Rogers having a
big game, but I.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Was a child, So twenty oh seven for that performance there.
That was his final season in Green Bay, where he
was having problems with Aaron Rodgers and so far then left,
went to the Jets and then the vikings and all that,
and so so be it. But the question is not
so much about Jordan Love. It's the other side. What
(10:37):
on God's green earth was that by Mike Tomlins Pittsburgh
Steelers defense. What happened to making adjustments? What happened to
improving as the season goes on? Now, we saw the
Pittsburgh Steelers get sliced up by Joe Flacco. So you
took the position that they were going to make that
a point of emphasis, and they were going to cut
(10:58):
down on their mistakes there and clean stuff up. They
had a mini bye week, they being the Pittsburgh Steelers.
How did that go? The adjustments were nonexistent, they were
non existent. The Steelers defense just stood there like they
were watching a matt Na at the Cinerama Dome. They
were just enjoying buttered popcorn.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Whatever. What was that?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Horrific? Unacceptable, absolutely unaccepted. Here's Mike Tomlin commenting on one
of the most pathetic defensive performances you'll see in the
Black and Yellow, Black and Yellow, Black and Yellow Tail is.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
You know, we all have to own it. Certainly you
start with the schematics, man, because you know that's the
leadership component of it, and certainly we'll be looking at
everything that we're doing, man, because some of these problems
are somewhat repetitive and we're not getting better fast enough. Mike,
I'm not gonna talk too much tonight. We'll take a
look at it. As I mentioned, they made some significant
plays on possession down ball and you know, you got
(11:58):
to get off on third down.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Okay, got it so very important to get off according
to Mike Tom It's all right. So anyway, it's like
they went to the cinerama doom as I said, they
had the buttered pop going there and oh my god.
Now maybe it was just my TV. Sometimes my TV
sees things that other TVs don't see. I have no idea,
but I saw these Steelers playing. I call it the
cover m defense, as in the cover Matador.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Alright, alright, alright, oay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
If you want miss tackles, check the Steelers are really
good at miss tackles, really good. If you want arm tackles,
they got those two. A lot of arm tackles, a
lot of arm tackles. You want poor pursuit ankle angles
where they come at the wrong direction. You know how
you're supposed to cut down the path.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
They don't do that. Never never see that.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
It's essentially a video on how not to play defense
in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
What the Steelers are doing on a weekly basis.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
There's a lot of people on defense in the secondary
in particular, that are making business decisions, if you know
what I'm saying here. And he allowed the Packers tied end.
Who's a good player, Tucker Craft, who is not that
good a player? My god, Tucker Craft. He went yakty
(13:17):
yack yards after the catch. There no pushback. And what
I've noticed, and the kicker on this, is that they're
the most expensive defense, they being the Pittsburgh Seris and
the entire NFL. They spend more money on defense than
anyone else. They're giving up now thirty plus points most games.
They played seven games, four of the seven they've allowed
(13:38):
thirty or more points per game. That's the Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Steelers at this particular point.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
And the one game where they looked okay against Drake
May and the Patriots, that was more of a byproduct
because the Patriots, I think they had five turnovers in
that game. That was the Ramando Stevenson fumble fumble game. There,
but it's not bad luck. It's like I look at
the series we've seen them now in Island games, the
last couple of games against the Bengals and against the
(14:06):
Green Bay Packers, and it's just systemic.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Rot is what it is. I mean, they're just they're
not anywhere close to being good.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Now. I get I made the mistake was handicapping the games.
Mike Tom's gonna go in there, going to the workshop
and figure some things out. It doesn't look like they
figured anything out at all. And so listen, listen, they're
gonna end up winning nine or ten games. They're over
five hundred. As bad as the defense is, they're still
(14:36):
over five hundred. They're a fake contender. They're in the
fake contender zone. The Pittsburgh Steels at this point, just
enough there to kind of trick people into thinking may
matter and that anybody.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Can win it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It's wide open in the AFC here and nobody is
scared of that defense. But the thing about it too, though,
is you see the guys and it's it's eyewash in
the secondary.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
That's the term here.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It's the fake hustle where they're kind of around the ball.
But it looks like they're not. Just based on the
eyeball test, it looks like they're not hustling. It's eye washes. Hustles,
stunt double, that's what eye washes, right, It's guys flying
around just enough to get on cameras. So it looks
like for the low information fan that they're in position
(15:28):
and looks like they cared and looks like they're trying,
and yet they're not. This is just ridiculous. So that's
where we are on that.
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we were giving a curveball the plan. The show was
put to bed and we had the baby woke up.
The baby was put to bed, the baby woke up.
So the Dodgers are still playing. We have live baseball,
which is great because all these people are bitching and complaining.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I don't understand these games are going so long. I
don't come my God, shut up. Welcome to my world,
you losers, Welcome to my world. So the Dodgers and
Blue Jays are tied at five. They've gone now that
I know.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Is that cheating.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
They pulled out the the sliced watermelon and pineapple.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It looked like to me pineapple.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
They're the Dodgers eating snacks in the dugout and they
are now going to the bottom of the sixteenth inning
at tra Vesarino. I want this game to end either
in the bottom of the sixteenth or the seventeenth, because
I was at the game to win eighteen innings, so
I don't want to see this game, this World Series game,
go more than eighteen because that would then cheapen the
(17:12):
game that I was at Red Sox and Dwyers in
the World Series years ago. When Max Muntsey hit the
home run. The game ended one in the morning, right
around one in the morning. It was after midnight. I
remember that it was after midnight. So anyway, that is
what's going on right now. So we will we will
watch that, but we will be talking about something other
than that right now, because there is more to discuss
(17:33):
and more to break down, and so our lead story
this hour from Arrowheads Stadium in Cannes City. It was
KC and the Sunshine Band, and that is the lead
the stage for the final game of Week number eight.
Week number eight of the NFL eight one of the
(17:53):
absolute worst. By the way, the product could not have
been less enjoyable if you want competitive games. In fact,
going back to nineteen seventy, this was, if not the
largest margin, it was in the top two or three
all time in the history of the NFL. I know
going into the Monday night game. It was in the discussion.
(18:15):
It depends on how you spin the stats. How bad
this was, but a weekend of blowouts wrapped up with
backup quarterback as Marcus Mariota leading the hobbled Commanders into
Kansas City that played eight there with Patrick Mahomes and
the Chiefs, you had Joe Buck and Troy Aikman on
the call.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
There were you watching? Did you watch? Were you engaged
in this? You were not? Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
So Patrick Mahomes, by his standard, struggled early in the game.
The first half was a bit of a dud all
the way around, a lot of turnovers, a lot of bad,
sloppy football. And then by the time the game ended,
Mahomes we love round numbers. He was one yard away
from a nice, sexy three hundred yards passing at two
undred ninety nine yards, ended up with three touchdowns. Kareem
(19:03):
Hunt found peterrt hit the end zone twice, and the
Chiefs defense in the second half it looked like they
wanted to get out of there. There being Washington as
Kansas City hog tied the Commanders in the final thirty
minutes of that football game. So Kansas City pulls away
and they win by three touchdowns twenty eight to seven.
(19:25):
I am told that's good. I didn't play in the NFL,
but I'm told that's good on a nice cold October night,
just days away from Halloween. Now, the better story is
in the losing locker room. The better story is in
the losing locker room, and the Commander fans very upset,
very upset with dan Quinn, a lot of range, a
(19:49):
lot of anger with the way the Commanders played in
the second half.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Of that game.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And a lot of the conversation is not even so
much about how bad the Commanders looked in the second half.
It's the apathetic appearance of the players on the Washington
football team who were so happy after they got their
face smashed in by the Chiefs and people up in
(20:13):
arms over that, that they were smiling and having a
grand old time playing grab ass at the end of
the game there on the sidelines. The postgame handshake was
like a college party. My god, were they having a
good time? People upset with that, And so that's a
good jumping off point. Let us discuss the question does
dan Quinn deserve the heat that he's getting in the
(20:37):
cyber Warfare department for the Commander's performance? Does he deserve
some heat for that? Now, my observation on this, I've
got Brad pitt Child's play and Circus Circus, and we
will combine all of these things together and we are
going to get an end to Game three of the
(20:57):
World Series that's going to have We're gonna end game
three of the World Series.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
But number.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
To answer the question, does dan Quinn deserve the crap
that he's getting. I'm nodding my head, yes, I'm nodding
my head.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
On that. Now, dan Quinn's Commanders, I'm old enough to
remember that they were in the final four of the
National Football League at the end of last season, and
here they are out there, smiling like they were to
charity golf outing somewhere in Maryland, just having a grand
old time. They were out playing golf with some politicians and.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Just let me have some lemonade? Is that spiked lemonade?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
They didn't act like they just got pants in the
second half by Kansas City, which is what happened on
National TV, by the way, in an Island game, although
not a full Island game, because I was flipping back
and my right hand was getting a workout. If I
had only known the Dodgers and Blue Jays would play
all night, I wouldn't even bother to watch the first
part of the game. I just would have focused on
the football game. But I was going back and forth.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
And all that.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
So the Commanders end up on the wrong side, and
then all the shenanigans after the game there as Washington
did catch lightning in a bottle, and I caught lightning
at a bottle last year. That was supposed to be
the foundation. That's what I was told. The smart people said,
this is the foundation.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
This is it.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
The NFL's final four NFC Championship game in Philadelphia, win
away from getting the Super Bowl, and.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Right there, one win.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Now, let's see some inventory on where the Commanders are.
We're at a checkpoint week eight. Now, I realized they
play seventeen games, so it's not quite the halfway point,
but nonetheless, for talk radio purposes, we will examine this
as the middling point of the NFL season. So where
is Washington one year after they were right on the
(22:52):
cusp of the top of the NFL. So they have
been come tumbling down, down, down, down, down, down.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Down, down, down, down down.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's where they are right now. And so they have
gone from punching above their weight, which is what they
did last year. Now they have gone down to the
corner bakery and they've ordered a pie, not an apple,
not a pumpkin, not the banana cream pie. They've gone
to the corner bakery and the Commanders have ordered a
big humble pie, and they're cutting up the humble pie
(23:20):
right now. Although they don't seem to be that worried
based on their postgame celebration. You want to give at
least the deception that you actually care. So Defensively, the
Commanders currently are ranked twenty seventh in the NFL. I'm
told that's not good the offense. How about the office
the Commander's offense?
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Here? Okay, this group, I know Jadon Daniels has been hurt.
Middle of the pack.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
There's sixteenth in the NFL. Now I recall, and maybe
I'm wrong on this. You can touch up my work
if you want. Cliff Kingsbury was the second coming of
the Messiah as the offensive genius for the Washington Commanders.
It is amazing. How'd that go? Well, don't ask this year. Now,
(24:05):
here's the thing about the Commanders watching this team plan.
I saw him in person a few weeks back against
the Chargers, and they actually played well in that game.
But the thing I look at Washington is they're not
bad enough the Commanders to be a lovable train wreck.
So they're not at that point, and they're not good
(24:25):
enough to really matter. They're just kind of stuck in
the Bermuda Triangle of the NFL. They're stuck in football
purgatory at this point. And as far as the I
guess we'll call it, what is the heel? A monster
in the room here? Postgame? It was like a country club.
But is it always like I don't like understand the rage.
It's always like that at NFL games. They love other
(24:48):
NFL players and they cannot wait to hug it out.
It's warm and fuzzy at the end of every NFL game,
with few exceptions, with few exceptions. Now there are exceptions,
but you'd think think that the Washington football team was
hosting a nice brunch with sliced meats and sliced cheeses
(25:09):
and they hadn't just gotten their teeth kicked in in
the second half by the team from Kansas City. But
if you're dan Quinn, okay, if you're dan Quinn, to me,
that's on you. He's supposed to be a happy, go
lucky coach and all that. That's fine, but at least
give the illusion that you were slightly bobbed.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
And this is always the issue.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Right we who invest our time as fans, we get
emotionally attached the players don't get emotionally attached. It's their gig,
it's their job. They don't understand why you're so into it.
Just chill out, man, It's just a game. And so
we want to go on there and make out at
the fifty yard line after we just got are ass kicked.
(25:49):
We're going to do that. We are going to do
that is what we're going to do. Yes, So, how
bad was it for the Washington commanders? Was so bad
that dan Quinn should hire Brad Pitt. Bring Brad Pitty in.
Remember that famous scene from Moneyball where he was portraying
Billy Bean and they were in the locker room and
(26:10):
he said, hey, you think losing is fun?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
You think losing is fun?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
And then the player on the athletics said, well no, okay,
Well if the answer is no, it's not fun, then
what the hell are you smiling for. By the way,
they played thirty minutes of football, they were tied at halftime.
The Washington football team, I believe at that point they
started warming up the diesel engines on the buses and
(26:36):
they wanted to make sure that the water in the
shower was warm as well. They had just sixty six
yards of offense in the second half, and if my
math is correct, I drotted this chicken scratch down four
first downs in the second half, which I'm told is
not good. And they were big underdogs, double digit dogs.
They being Washington going into this game, they were expected
(26:57):
to lose, they were expected to be.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Blown out out.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
They actually had the game in position at halftime to
scratch and claw and make it a fourth quarter game,
to put the pressure on Kansas City. And instead of
doing that.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Well, they did the opposite.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
They just got in the fetal position, started sucking their
thumb and that was it. Mahomes got going, the defense
started crushing people, and that was it. Game over. Absolute
weak sauce, Absolute week sauce. Now on the other side.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Page two.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
So we go now to the Kansas City side of things,
where things are buzzing. You can almost hear it. There's
a buzz in the air. It's almost everywhere. Yes, So question,
are you gonna go thumbs up or are you gonna
(27:53):
go thumbs down? Thumbs upper, thumbs down on Andy Reid's
Chiefs being back in the catbird seat metaphorically in the AFC.
All right, that is the question. So thumb to the
moon way up. I'm going to the moon, thumb way
up to the moon. Now this game, you don't get
(28:13):
any style points. It was a blowout win. It was
close at halftime. This was what I would call a
workman like effort for the Kansas City Chiefs. Here punched
the clock the old I can't really say lunch pail
because all these guys are millionaires, but you get the point.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Back in the old days, we'd say lunch pail type game.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
And all of a sudden, all of a sudden, Patrick
Mahomes looks like the vintage Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Yet again he does.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
He's got his toys back at wide receiver, He's got
his playmakers back. I know Keg drinking. Steve's excited about that.
And so Mahomes is cooking with a flamethrower at this point.
So it turns out the reports of Mahomes and the
Chiefs demise, well, they were cute while they lasted greatly exaggerated.
Mahomes looked in the second half like he was taking
(29:01):
batting practice at five point thirty and hitting those batting
practice fastballs out of the park. Washington had nothing in
the second half. Now, some of that was Mahomes. Some
of that was Mahomes and what he was doing with
Kansas City. They got off to the zero to two start.
They are now five and one, and the one loss
in there was the play that they quit against Jacksonville.
(29:24):
Remember the defense quit. They were caught on camera lollygagging,
allowing Trevor Lawrence to fall down twice and get up
and score a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
So that's on them.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
So you could make the argument there's a dimension in
the multiverse where they are six and oho and they're
lurking in the playoff picture like Michael Myers behind the
curtain there. Now nobody think about this, Nobody in the AFC.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Nobody in the.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
AFC, he said, well, Indianapolis a little bit, but nobody
in the AFC West has been able to capitalize on
that early facepoint. The Chargers won all these divisional games earlier.
All right, there you go, this is the Chargers year.
Everything's great. They're set up. Boom boom boom, division win,
division win, division win, They're ready to go. And now
we look like we look at it right now and yeah,
(30:10):
face plan. So the division led by the Chargers early
and they had a shot to bury Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
They didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
We all know that. Nobody in the AFC West took
advantage of it. As we said, so the division is
still up for grabs at this point. And now Kansas City.
As of right now, the Chiefs are back in the
playoff picture. They are the last team in the wild
card around. They're the last team in the playoffs at
(30:40):
this point and still have a shot to be the
number one seed in the Also, the schedule sets up
nicely Kansas City. There is no momentum, so we know that. However,
they are playing with some confidence.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Now they have up ahead.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
If you look, you've got the Bills, Broncos, and Colts
upcoming is also by mixed in and so those are
massive swing games both in the division and then just
the overall hierarchy in the AFC down down the line.
So Kansas City, I'm trying to say, if you like
horror movies, Kansas City this season it's like that classic
(31:20):
Child's Play.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Remember that movie.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
It's all movie now, all my references are old, I guess,
but Child's Play, and that was where Chucky was at.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
The beginning of the movie.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
There he was burned, shot and dismembered, and somehow, because
it's Hollywood, managed to come back. Why not Kansas City
to begin the year was burn shot and dismembered, And
they have come back now and they're right in the
middle of it in the AFC and Mahomes is breathing
like a dragon with fire. Andy Reid's is suddenly smart again,
(31:49):
and we're on our way. Of course, the conspiracy theorist
will so well, yeah but yeah but yeah, but yeah
about the NFL wants someone to win, He goes, Taylor Swipt,
Yeah but yeah but yeah it yeah but yeah but
yeah it yeah but yeah it Rabbit the yeabbit Rabbit.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller
Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I agree, Do you.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Have what it takes to get to the top?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Probably not, Let's do it. Welcome to Archancessys. We've got
any meanie mighty most. Sam is in Iowa. Hello Sam, Welcome.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Sam's full of energy, he's excited to be here, and
he's a man.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Of many words.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Welcome Sam. You're gonna play the game. Who do you
want to partner up with? Sam?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Okay, he's gonna play with Ben Lorena. I'm shocked he
didn't pick me up. I can't believe that. Hold on
a sex, Sam, and we have keg.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Drinking Steve in Ken'saw City.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Hello, man, what a record breaking night?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Did you see?
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Mary?
Speaker 4 (32:48):
We don't have time.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Geez to the other guy hung up, So you gotta
play with you gotta play.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Play with Lorena?
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Man, Mary hart Is okay? All right, you're a nadho
what he or what he is? Okay? All right, let's
play the game.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
You're not playing with Lorena, Steve, play the game, all right?
Speaker 4 (33:08):
All right? Stop? What is the is the was it
the Walking and Phoenix edition? Yes?
Speaker 8 (33:13):
He's fifty one years old? To happy birthday?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Ah the joker?
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
All right.
Speaker 9 (33:17):
The categories are eight millimeter, Gladiator, the Immigrant, and Napoleon.
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Sam?
Speaker 9 (33:23):
Which category would you like? Gladiator? Alright, Steve?
Speaker 8 (33:27):
How about you?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
The Immigrant?
Speaker 8 (33:31):
The Immigrant? All right?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Right, very good?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I love Immigrant?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Okay, thank you, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
All right, here we go. Let's play the game right now.
You picked Sam and Iowa a man a few words.
You picked Gladiator. These athletes were all part of notable fights.
Are you ready? Sam?
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah? All right, we need the first and last name,
and we're on our way.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Go. Star defensive player for the Cleveland Browns right now,
all right, the worm for the Chicago Bulls in the
nineteen eighties, the Paces.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Yeah, all right, thank you you. I'll take credit for it.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
He changed his name. He played for the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
He started the malice at the palace at basketball player
player That is correct. Picture for the Red Sox, not
Kurt Shilling, but the number one picture for that Red
Sox team that won the World Series from the Dominican Republic,
that is correct. Got into a fight with Robin, got
into a fight with Nolan Ryan. A fight with Nolan
(34:34):
Ryan got his He said that did not Yes, you did, Yes,
said Rob, said Rob. I just said Robins.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
That does not count.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
He said ninety I said Rob, all right, I did say,
I said Rob. Rob.
Speaker 9 (34:48):
We said we are we have Rob Parker. The immigrants,
these athletes were Rob Parker. These athletes were all born
in another country.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
You're getting all.
Speaker 9 (34:59):
Right, see forty five seconds on the clock. Let's begin.
Japanese slugger for the Dodgers. Full name.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Heydani.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
Yes, okay, thank you. This guy's the star player on
the Lakers. He's from like Slovenia.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Uh Luca.
Speaker 9 (35:19):
Yes, this guy was a Canadian on the Philadelphia the
Phoenix Suns.
Speaker 8 (35:24):
He won like a couple MVPs.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Oh uh, all right.
Speaker 9 (35:29):
This guy was a slugger from the Dominican Republic for
the Angels. People are considering him to be a manager Albert. Yes,
this guy was nicknamed the Nigerian Nightmare. No, this guy
was a Polish kicker for the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Kicker Christian friend, you went for.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
The joke, so we have we have seventy seventy alright, Steve,
we're back up.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
Do you want eight millimeter or Napoleon?
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Napoleon?
Speaker 8 (36:05):
No, it's Steve.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
It's Steve.
Speaker 9 (36:07):
You're gonna gets all right, all right, Steve, We've got Napoleon.
These athletes were all considered short in their sport. Ah okay,
all right, forty five seconds. Let's begin. He's the short
quarterback for the Cardinals. Right now, the.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Guy that doesn't play video games, Kyler Murray.
Speaker 9 (36:28):
Yes, yes, this guy was on the Seahawks and the Broncos.
Now he's a backup on the Giants. Well man, mister unlimited. Okay, yes,
this guy was a cheating astro. He's like five to five.
He's a cheating astro. He's like five to five.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, I know, little guy.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Okay, how about.
Speaker 9 (36:54):
This guy's got the same name as the famous point
guard from the Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
No, but he's on there, doesn't doubt.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Who's the shortest player of all time? Oh you didn't
get it. He said the name.
Speaker 8 (37:08):
He said the name. That count hundred.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
That's one hundred point.
Speaker 8 (37:13):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Let's go, Steve, all right here.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
We are tam but Sam, all right, yeah, these are
these all War number eight? They all War number eight.
Are you ready, Sam?
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:23):
All right?
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Uh, star of the Star of the nineteen seventies Pittsburgh Pirates.
We are family hit tail a record back African American
guy hit tons of home runs for the Pirate.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Yeah, all right, there you go, shut up.
Speaker 8 (37:39):
Not yours.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Greatest punter of all time for the Raiders. He's not
a man, he's a rod.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
We win ms name.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Let's go way. Muggsy folks did not count. Muggsy did
not count.
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