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Well you heard the man creating salutations Happy Thanksgiving. I
am not Ben Malor. I'm not Archie Bell in the Drills.
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should be well. If you're scoring at home, and I
hope you are. This is my nineteenth Ben Mallor show
over the years, and you know I do have mad
respect for the malt of militia. These are not empty words.
I get it. There's you know, Raider Nation, the Cheeseheads,
Bill's Mafia, Cameron Crazies. They're all good. But you know
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I ride with the Malard Militia. So tonight you get
to prove your metal. I will honor Ben's format. We'll
take your calls throughout the night at eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox, and don't be shy, bring it,
bring it early and off. And it's the holidays. I
don't really give a flying horses, patwo If you like me,
you don't like me, just pick up the phone. We'll
chop it up. Have a little fun. Now, let's keep
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it real. If you're like most Americans these past few days, well,
you most likely have taken advantage of the fact that
during this time of the year, gluttony is not a sin.
So by now I'm guessing you're still recovering from your
food coma. Don't act like you're not. I can see
you from here. You're sitting there post holiday meals, slumped
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in your chair, all blooded, listless. The only words running
through your head or why the hell that I eat
so much? But you know the answer is that food
food comas, excuse me, They're about as common as we'll
booze hangovers during the holidays. Now, it doesn't help as
human beings because you see, we are hardwired toward binge eating.
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Why well, our primal ancestors they had to endure long
periods with no food, so once they found it, they
would eat everything they could get their hands on. Binge
eating is actually a documented eating sort. I get that.
At least that's what some drunk guy told me at
the bar when I was eating a hot dog, and
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our crack research team shows that for most of us
it mainly takes hold during the holiday season. Binge eating
I'm referring to. So, by the way, can I get
something off my speaking of hot dogs, Well, I was
crushing one or three the other day. I actually saw
a dude putting ketchup on his hot dog. What you
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don't put ketchup on a hot dog? We have very
few things set me off. I'm a reasonable man, but
I don't like it when people, for instance, pronounce the
name Kelly Clarkston because it's really Kelly Clarkson. Yeah, don't
do that. Also, I don't like when people go to
the grocery store or leave their cart in the middle
of the parking lot instead of taking the extra thirty
two seconds to push the cart back to the proper
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receptacle area with me. Come on, come on, man, you
do that stuff, You're going to hell on a scholarship.
But when I see people put ketchup on a hot dog,
I want to kill myself with a chainsaw. You don't
put ketchup on a hot dog. Ketchup does not enhance
the flavor of a dog. It camouflages it. Ketchup is
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basically sugar. Don't put sugar on a hot dog. You're
killing the dog. You're killing me. It's like putting ice
cubes and wine. So getting pizza with a spoon. But
I digress. Huge show to night, And in case you
missed it, there was an NFL triple header Thursday, and
in just a few arms by the way, the Raiders
will play the Chiefs in a standalone Black Friday game,
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plus big college football weekend Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Day
in USC We're gonna get to all that stuff, But
I also got to get something else off my chest.
Did you buy any chance?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
See?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I covered thirteen Detroit Lions Thanksgiving the games, and I
saw some weird ones. Trust me. The Jerome bettest game
in nineteen ninety eight, when Jerome Bettis called heads and
the referee Thudy called tails and the Lions got the
ball one and overtime. That was Barry Center's final Thanksgiving game,
by the way, that led to a rule change. Well wait,
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the Lions would owen sixteen that year covered that game
they lost forty seven to ten. They've played ninety these
things nineteth anniversary since the Lions started this deal, the fiftieth,
by the way, fiftieth anniversary today, since the last time
the game was played outdoors. But enough about memory Lane.
What in the hell happened with the Bears at the
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end of the game. If Matt Aberflus, the Chicago Bears
head coach, with all due respect, had one foot on
a banana peel and the other in the grave, you
could pretty much write his epitaph right now. With all
due respect, I don't know what could save him. A chaplain,
maybe the irony. It was in the midst of a
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remarkable late game comeback and the Bears end up losing
twenty three to twenty on Thanksgaven. For a while, it
actually looked like the story of the game would be
Caleb Williams showing up and showing out in the second half,
which he hasn't done this year, but Matt Eberflutes won
uped him with incredibly baffling clock management that completely overshadowed
the entire game. Did you miss it? Shame on you
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if you did, because with thirty six seconds left in
the game, the Bears were set up on the Lions
thirty six yard line, well within range to at least
tie the game at twenty three with a field goal
and send things in overtime. However, was second and twenty
and Williams got sacked back of the Detroit forty one.
When he went down, there were thirty six seconds left
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in the game and the Bear still had one time out.
Spoiler alert, they still have one time out. Bears coach
Matt Eberflus chose not to use it. Why answer that question?
We can selve we can create piece of them at least. Instead,
he lets the clock tick down, likely in case he
maybe was going to use the timeout to set up
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a field goal or try to win the game. But
it took ten seconds for Caleb Williams to get up
and get his bearings. Then he started signaling a play
with teammates. What he was doing, I don't know, kind
of walking around. Looked like a chicken with his head
cut off. Looked like the old Mike McCarthy, Barney Rubble.
I went to the ball. I forgot where I parked
my car and wandering around the lot. And by the way,
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the clock is taking down. Williams gets in the shotgun
centerrated to snap the ball. Now we're all the way
down to twelve seconds left. Caleb Williams, showing the rookie
that he is, continues to survey the defense and ponder
his naval Finally eventually calls for the snap with six
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seconds left in the game, threw it deep for another
first round draft choice, Roma Dunes. The ball sails over
his head at the five yard line, and when the
ball hit the ground, the clock tick zero. The game
was over and there was jubilation in Detroit. Chicago loses
with one time on on the clock, an absolutely embarrassing
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play and what frankly completely overshadowed and wiped out a
second half effort for the Bears where they almost erased
the sixteen to nothing halftime deficit. Meanwhile, the Lions, first
time ever they're eleven and one, eleven to one for
the first time in franchise history. And of course coach
Iberflus tried to wax philosophical after the game. You know,
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maybe he's being honest, maybe he's in denial, maybe he
lacked self awareness, but he actually said the following quote,
I think we handled it the right way. Sure, it
just didn't work out the way we wanted it to.
You think, you think, yeah, just never mind the horses blind,
just keep loading the cart. We'll talk about this game
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maybe a little bit later in the show, because with
three point forty one left in the game, the Bears
actually looked like they were really going to give the
Lions a scare. Who Actually, the Lions had lost seven
straight Thanksgiving Day games prior to prior to Thursday, and
three of those games were to the Bears. It almost
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became eight by the way. You know, not for nothing.
Just have a little fun. People don't take me too serious.
Man in Finnis says Bernie. I'm not afraid to say
I put ketchup on my ketchup. Back during my first job,
they called me the ketchup kid for a reason. Loll
I do put it on my hot talks. My dad
says the same thing you do, but he puts mustard
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on his I like your dad, Bernie, I will a
million some stadium mustard if you can't get it where
you're at, Richard, beg as they say, I'm ketchup Minnesota.
It's gonna be lit. Keep them coming, I'll read them.
Appreciate you guys. Look, I'm just having a little fun tonight. Okay,
we're not solving the world's problems. We're not, you know,
finding cures for diseases. This is sports talk radio at
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Speaker 4 (10:33):
Big day today and it was a fun day. Almost
got knocked out. You know, I'm back in the Survivor pool.
I bought back in. I had Detroit almost Oh my goodness, Yeah,
that was a that was That would have been a
big waste of money. I spent a lot of money
on to get back in. So happy to say.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Well, I was sweating it out too. I had the
under of forty eight and a half. They tie that
game up twenty three three. I told you was somebody
to put the maloka on me. Recently cracked with all
these divisional unders, sneaking over in the last minute. But
be that as it made. Just one quick takeaway from
that game. Do you believe Michael Parson? He says he
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thinks they're gonna turn it around, sneak their way back
into the plass. I'm certainly not buying it. What are
your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I just I just don't think so. I can't see
them sneaking back in. I like the words sneaking, but
I just I just don't see it happen. And you know,
after watching today though, it just makes you think that
you see everything going on. You see all these games
coming down almost to the wire. Listen, they beat a
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they beat a giant squad that's just not good. And
the Giants are literally a team that probably even kind
of gave up on the season maybe last week, you know,
after getting embarrassed in front of Tampa. So I don't
think much about the Dallas squad. I had their season
wins under for the year. I don't see them going.
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I mean now we see the cream rising to the
top in that division with the Eagles, and even even
Washington we see faltering a little bit, especially with their
big loss that they had as a ten and a
half point favorite last week.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Talk with Bill Crackman Krackenberger. You hear them on our
network Sunday mornings, cont down to Kickoff. Crack We're going
to get to some big COMMS game Saturday. We've got
a black Friday noon Pacific time kickoff. Raiders Chiefs Raiders
catching thirteen and by the Raiders coach own admission, they're
the worst team in football. I never want to lay
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double digits in any divisional game ever, But I don't
know how you can back the Raiders here. Do you
have any thoughts on that game?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
You know, I'm an underdog guy by nature my whole life.
I've probably bet about sixty five percent, sixty to sixty five,
maybe a little bit less now because you have to
evolve and you could bet favorites now. But I don't
mike ever laying, ever laying anything more than I want
to tell you something that burning up. I really don't
lay more than three and a half, never mind double digits.
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I have never laid double digits on an NFL game, especially,
like you said, a division game. A Las Vegas squad
who hasn't played this team well over the years, as
we know what happened last season with Vegas and Kansas City.
And however, this squad is so depleted. Uh my god,
this squad really is depleted in Kansas City. I mean,
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they should have lost last week to Carolina. So how
do they come back and give thirteen to anyone when
they really should have lost last week. So but that
all being said, and I'll just have some props on
this game. I will not have a side on this game.
Very rarely do I even bet any side. So luckily
enough I did have. Gregg gave got Green Bay on
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about a dozen different shows this week, so I was
happy about that. But as far as side to go,
I really don't give out when he sides I'll have,
I'll actually give you one here. I'm not gonna have.
Kansas City Chiefs mahomes over are very rare over from me.
I think he's going to have some yards over, so
I like his over on his yards. I actually didn't
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even didn't even give that out anyone. You're the first source.
You're the first person who I'm giving that out to today.
Kansas City Chiefs mahomes over passing yards, like I said,
very rare. I liked it about unders because naturally have
a built in advantage of someone maybe getting hurt. Not
that I want them to get hurt, but someone getting
hurt or something. But this kid something specially, he just
knows how to win. Everyone had Detroit Lions as their
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number one team and all their power rankings and power
ratings and they're the best team in football. Well we
see what almost happened to them to them today and
their defense has just been depleted. So I just don't
know how they can be such a strong separation between
Detroit and Kansas City as the best team in football,
or even Buffalo or a couple of them. Baltimore has
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one of the highest performance offenses out there. Tell you
what this year, boy, all these teams, there's not really
a lot of separation. Sure that the top maybe five
teams in football, any one of them can win it.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I agree with that. And regarding Mahomes, look, there's an
old saying, can you be great when the situation demands great?
And it's and I think that's Pat mahomes calling card.
And you can't count this Chiefs out. And they actually
got a pret good run defense. So I know everybody's
gaga about Lamar Jackson right now, but in my experience,
he's been mister October. Let's see what he does in January.
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I want to jump to the Collins game ever so
quickly because we've got this new twelve team playoff format.
There are three or four games I want to run
quickly by you. But first of all, do you like
the new twelve team format or based on what you're
seeing shaking out, is it not solving the problems the
past years?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
No?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
You know, you know, it may get some more viewership,
it may get some more fanship to the game, and
you know what, it does make it a little more interesting.
So yeah, I'll say sure, I like it more. I
think it's better for the game and better for the fans,
and anything that can be better for the fans.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I'm all four, all right, one game Friday that has
some playoff implications. If Colorado can beat Oklahoma State, they
got a shot to be in the Big twelve championship
game Oklahoma State catching sixteen. I don't like either side
the game. Your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, this game opened up seventeen here in Las Vegas
at circa on the sixteen and a half. Not a
lot of movements though from this game half a point
even the some I use two different sportsbooks for the
other sportsbook as guides by the way, so the other
sportsbook open sixteen and a half still sixteen and a half.
One thing I see here maybe a lean towards the over.
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You know, I follow a lot of other guys when
it comes to college football totals. There's only one or
two guys I really respect, but I follow them and
they lean towards the over. Here a couple sixty six
is out there already sixty five and a half seems
to be like the number. But yet then again Aaron
Vegas are sixty five and sixty sixes so a place
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like the circle which has sixty five looking there, they
have the lowest number. But if anything, I leaned to
the over. You could bet overs in these situations when
you have high power explosive offenses here, so of course
Colorado being the favorite to do that, but again I
didn't bet it. That would be my lean.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Talking to Bill Crackman Krackenberger crack Let's Talk Saturday noon,
eastern nine Pacific. I covered ten of these games. It's
the greatest rivalry in Collin sports of my belief. Michigan,
ohiose state. It looks like Michigan money is really starting
to come in. Actually grab Michigan at twenty one on Tuesday.
Here's why I bring the game up. Crack Can you
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ever remember and I don't think it's Michigan team's good,
but can you ever remember a defending national champion getting
twenty one points in any game the following year. Consider
the fact also that Ryan Day in his career to
House State is only six and twelve against his bread
in home November games. Are you involved in this game Saturday?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
You said it right. This game opened up twenty one.
It's been all Michigan's money since then, down to nineteen.
That's some of the key sportsbooks in town here. But
yet there's still twenty and a half at some of
the slower moving sports books in town here. Listen, I
like Michigan first half to keep up with them. That's
the solid ten and a half is actually eleven and
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a half here at the winning stations in town. If
you guys notice, I'm talking about a lot of different
sportsbooks here. It's very very key to have many different
sports books in your arsenal. It's very key when even
if you come to Vegas for like two to three
four days, if you're serious, then you've better to be
more than you know, twenty five bucks or something. You
should definitely fund many different apps when you're in town here.
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Like I said, these half of points or even full
points on this first half game, there's two eleven and
a half in down and there's ten and a half,
So I definitely lean towards the first half, taking Michigan
plus the points. I think Michigan are going to come
out all pumped up. This division, I mean the division,
this old school rival game, This is a this is
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really going to be fun, fun game to watch. Maybe
tighter earlier than later, but the money did come in
on Michigan.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Another big game that does have playoff implications Arizona State
laying eight and a half at Arizona and it's only
got implications for one team, Arizona State. Of course, the
Sundals have to win to put themselves in position to
make the Big twelve championship game. Thoughts on that game.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Arizona State opened up as an eight point favorite, up
to nine At that same sportsbook doc I said that
I do respect again, this is situations. You can lay
that kind of points on on one of you know,
either team. You can lay points like that now in
the at any really sport years ago, I would only
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take underdogs in these situations or just past the game.
So situationally here though I'm not involved at all, and
if I'm leaning towards anything, there's still some slow moving sportsbooks.
The sportsbooks out there that do have Arizona State minus
eight and a half, looks like most of the sportsbooks
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are leaning towards the nine, including my sponsor on my
show on the weekend at MGM with a nine.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Craig, let's go out to Los Angeles, an all time matchup.
Although this game doesn't have nearly the luster it's had
in past years, Notre Dame laying seven and a half
at USC. Now, what's interesting is people I respect on
both sides are giving varying opinions. Obviously, this is USC
Super Bowl, but I can't really trust Lincoln Riley, but
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I would only look to the seven and a half.
Notre Dame has to win this game or I don't
think they'll get a playoff first. I don't think because
they didn't want to. They're not in a conference. They
won't take a two lost team that didn't win a
conference championship. Can you see some value in grabbing USC
in the points here?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
You know? Even though even though the line opened at
seven at the two key sportsbooks went up to seven
and a half and still sit at seven and a half,
and the one sportsbook more towards the eighth even I
can't lay it. I can't lay it in that situation
here first USC, I would have to lean USC in
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this game. But you know, I don't know if you
know me, Bernie, like this, I don't bet a lot
of these big type of games. You know, Auburn, Alabama's,
Notre Dame, USC's, these big games that are big name
teams that even Kansas Baylor. I kind of stay away
with him because lots of eyes are on these games.
Ohio State, Michigan that might as well just be an
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NFL game. These games are so hard to beat. I
look because there's so many eyes on, which means it
is an efficient line. Trust me. I'll look more towards
the SCS, that's right, These ugly little teams that and
I say ugly because no one's ever realized that they
have games going on. I mean Prolence and the state
most people can't even name it state, the Abilene Christian
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you know, Richmond, Tennessee, Martin. These are the teams that
the lines aren't even up yet. So what does that
mean a guy like me, I know these lines are
going to come up the day of the game, and
it's definitely a less efficient game. I'd rather bet those
type of games with the information that I have and
look to these big name teams. I know it sounds born,
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but I'm not here to have fun and enjoy myself
and bet my favorite teams and Mileagon is my bank roll.
Only I look to the smaller schools that were.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
So cool though. Texas had Texas A and M. Texas
A and M getting the five and a half points.
This is for the right to go to the SEC
championship game. And I got to say you, the points
look tempting. They're the home team getting five and a half.
Any thoughts on that game?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
You know what isn't Isn't that a fun game?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Now?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Now, I say, I don't bet a lot on a
lot of these games, but I'll tell you this, I
would love to go to one of those type of games.
I have never been to a Notre Dame game boy,
I say, I'd love to never been to a note.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
I have.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Such great juice there that I actually can go tour
the campus and stuff. Like when you say Texas Texas
and Amager just reminded me of that. You know, that
old school rival type of game. And this is again,
this is this spread opened up four and a half five,
it's still five. A couple five and a half's out there.
What a great game to go to, though. Uh, these
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these these rival type of games. And I'm sure I
know you. You've worked so much football in your life. Not
only have you been to these games, you've called a
lot of these games. I really envy you for that.
I really do. Well.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Get to Notre Dame if you can. I've been to
at least half a dozen games there. And staying ben
in Harbor, Michigan, let me know when you're going. It's
just a twenty minute drive straight south to the South Bend. South.
There's nothing in South Bend. With all the respect to
South Bend, I mean, unless you want to close down
Jambajuice or some damn thing. But the bottom line is
if you stay in Bent and Harbor, it's not near
the water. Nice nice restaurants. All right, let's jump to
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the NFL crack and then everybody's gonna get a treat here.
We're gonna wrap this up. We're in that holiday season.
We'll do this last crack. Folks come to Vegas. Tell
them just some quick dues and don't so they can
have a good time here. But odd card this week
in the NFL. And you know, a couple of games
jumped to mind, San Francisco catching seven from Buffalo and
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the Eagles catching three from Baltimore. I actually would lean
to the dog in both of those.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Your thoughts definitely lean to the dog in the Soladelphia
Baltimore game. And this is the same Baltimore team that
at home was embarrassed by the Raiders earlier in the
season at home. I think Soladuff has just been on
a roll. They have just been lightning on a roll here.
And listen, Baltimore is averaging like four hundred I was
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seeing like four hundred and some yards per game. There's
the highest power offense here. This is the This may
be like literally this year's Super Bowl game. And maybe
that good, maybe better than the actual Super Bowl three
and fifty one. It opened up opened up around three
forty nine and a half fifty two and a half
around there. Baltimore played a good game the other day,
so they got pumped up the three. I'm looking forward
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to watch this game very rare. I watched the game
as a fan. As I said earlier, same thing with
the Buffalo Sam fran game. I understand San Franz got
some injuries and some guys that are maybe you know,
a little gingerly walking around, and then you know they'll
try to do what they can on on Sunday night
primetime game. Did you ever think that this game preflop?
(25:47):
I'm sure I don't know what it was, but I
can guarantee it wasn't the seventh so uh, and preflop
means at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Right now, look ahead lines poker.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Yeah, yeah, the poker term though, Buffalo probably about a three.
Now it's a the seven. Boy, I didn't I didn't
get involved in either one of these games. I would lean,
like you though, to the dogs. More more of the
Soladelphia games. I will give you a team I did bet,
and I'll tell you I bet this game and it
went against me a little bit. It's back to the
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same line. I use the CLV closing line value. I
did bet Seattle over the Jets, so I do have Seattle.
They've been on a little bit of a role. The
Jets is to go in the opposite way. I literally
want to continue that train, hopefully. I did bet Seattle,
a rare NFL side that I bet. And also Cincinnati
over Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I'll just tell you, I love best play the game
week Oh really.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Yeah, Cincinnati over Pittsburgh, I'll tell you. I bet it
here at the south Point minus two and a half
multiple times, you know, for their max bet. I just
think that Pittsburgh has such a tough schedule here too,
uh coming up, Oh my god, they have so many
tough games. But this is a game that Cincinnati needs more.
Pittsburgh's been on a roll, but I think Pittsburgh's one
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of those spaghezy teams. They have gotten there and then
where they have with it. Listen, I think Cleveland showed
them up a little bit last week. So there is
a couple of teams I like this week in the NFL,
Cincinnati and Seattle. I'll stick with them and see if
I can get a three feet here after green Bay
one today.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Look, Tomlin, teams have faded in the last couple I
like the Cincinnati team. We get a nice, cozy line
and in the last couple of years you get to
week twelve, or after the Steelers lost to the Cardinals.
Last year, they were two intent they lost to the
Patch last year they were too inten they lost to
the Browns now Then Thursday night game they're two and eight,
So I love Cincinnati last one. Whenever I this used
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to be an auto play for me. Whenever a team
under five hundred it's laying points on the road, I
fade them. Now the Rams, I don't know why they
get so much respect in the markets, are laying two
and a half at New Orleans. This feels like a
strong spot play for me. I'm going to fire around
New Orleans with the points at home.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Your thoughts, Rams five and six, New Orleans four and seven.
Let's face it, this game they post me if they
want to, and they're gonna have to run the gamut too,
actually if they want to both either want to get
to the playoffs. Yeah, situationally here, this is another one
of those games that boy, I don't know if I
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can lay points with the Rams on the road, But
I just don't know if I can now listen if
this is the same team that came out of the
gun this year, Bang Bang with two big victories and
giant points. I think they won forty four to nineteen
or something like that in Dallas Week two, and everyone
was better to win the Super Bowl. So I mean,
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I wasn't jumping on that train so quick, but I
was surprised by New Orleans and I said, wow, look
at this Derek Carr offense to win this good. I
was like, wow, this team actually does look pretty good.
But then again, I thought Dallas was probably a little
bit better than they were, so looking at it now,
you know, they kind of revealed itself that Dallas was
not as good even though they did win today. I
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can't I can't bet the Rams on the road in
the situation, and there's a couple plus three minus twenties
out there here in town the wins stations. I'm looking.
I would lean towards towards the Saints at home in
the situation. They may even need the game a little
bit more than the Rams, even though they both need
the game.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Last thing, crack. We got about a minute. Folks from
around the country listen to the show. Maybe some are
planning to come to Vegas for the holidays. See a show,
have a little nach, favorite beverage, stay a hotel, whatever,
give the folks some tips and dos, and don't.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Well, you know what, when you come to Vegas, you
always like you could have a plan. You should have
a battle plan when you come to town. Don't just
come here and then start making decisions when you come here.
If you listen, if you're not drinking, if you're coming here,
just be with the family and have a good time.
Rent the car, not a bad idea. Car rubles aren't
that much here. Rent the car and you can go
from place to place to place and it'll be less
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money than spending money on ubers and taxis, that's for sure,
and time consuming. Who time is money? So and if
you want something that actually is a low budget thing
that I love doing, I still my nieces were just
here we went. I love going to the Pinball Hall
of Fame on the strip. It's all different games from
when you were a kid back in the thirties and
forties up until current time. Great place to go. Just
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grab a bunch of quarters, five ten bucks. We'll have
a great time there. And you know you also maybe
want to go downtown checking out look at the old
you know, the old place downtown where that's where it
all started. Now people just think that the Las Vegas
Strip with maybe bugsy single with a flamingo. No downtown,
just to walk downtown and if you're just coming out
without the family, you always want to check out like
(30:42):
the Circus Sports Book.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
It's so cool when you walk.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Into something like that. It's like seeing Notre Dames Field
for the first time in person. It was like, wow,
you know, yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Hey, but always a pleasure. We'll see you soon. Thanks
so much. Keep up the great work and I'm proud
to know you man.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Hey, thank you, Thank you very much. Buddy. Happy holidays,
so you look forward to speaking to you again.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
That thanks. That is Bill Crackman Krakenberger, a legend. We
go back a long way. He's connected. I swear to god,
this guy knows more people in the Pope. And uh,
you know, he's in demand, certainly on the Network and
another networks around the country. You know. The great actress
Lily Tomlin once said I always wanted to be somebody.
(31:29):
I just wish I'd been more specific. You want to
be somebody. Listen to The Ben Mahler Show featuring Bill
Miller and Ben Maller in a cast of thousands. Ben
is off tonight. I'm Bernie Fraddle cit again for Ben Maller,
coming to you live from the tarik dot Com studios
here in Las Vegas. Lots of stuff to get to
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before I get into my little Black Friday extravaganzel, which
I know nothing about. Let's welcome in Manuel from Guardina Manuel,
how you doing, buddy, Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Black Friday and
everything that goes along.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
With it, action.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
Chain reaction. I'm lazy, Bud. It takes so much little
to me so far, Happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Bernie right back?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
A thing about you? Well, I got to tell you, man,
you always bring it and uh you know you come on,
we get your six hundred affiliates. I heart the serious
sex and you you have no no shaming game. I
love that, dude. Let's just let's just call like it is. Man, Well,
(32:43):
you got balls. I don't want to see him. I
don't want to see him, but I mean you got balls,
so you got the floor.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Man.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Well take us away, Hey, Bernie, that is like the
utmost respect, you know. I'll take it, Manholeness from chi
wah wah. Hey, So what I was to tell you? Man,
you hit a couple of golden, golden subjects today that
I want to touch on the NFL tanking. You are
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so right about that. I mean I'm a Raider fan
since the early eighties, so I've seen this tanking firsthand
and it doesn't work. I wish that we would get
I mean, we've had our little glimpses. You know, Big
Reggie was a good, good drafter. Even Mike Mayock had
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some good draft picks. But for the most part, man,
it has been a barren desert when he comes to
Raider drafts. So I think you're right, man, that NFL
tanking that just ain't the way, man, you got to build.
And I don't get it, man, I know, the pumpkin haircut, freak.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Old, dumb and dumber there.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
Yeah, you know, Lloyd Christmas Man, the guy has got
the design, hire, he's got the money. But kind of
like Pops, Man, I mean Pops was just the speed
beam and the he he wanted too much speed and
just didn't ever just you know you know what I mean,
Like he never put He always had a desire for
the players, but he just didn't know how to put
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the blueprint together. And it seems like that's what's going
on with Mark too, man. And it's just it's tough
to see, man, because you know, as well as I do,
greater Nations, Dan spans from Hawaii Miami.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
You know what I mean, amazing when the team left Oakland,
went to La came back to Oakland, left Oakland twice
another here in Vegas.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
They're loyal, never misses a beat because you know, when
it comes to the autumn wind man, we love our
silver and black, so your spot on them that and
then the other thing that man has been really really funny,
you know, because you and I are old enough to
remember when the Yankees were doing this and the Red
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Sox have gone period where they hell San Diego has
spent damn near a billion dollars two in the last
five years, but nobody ever brings none of that up.
It's just the Dodger hatred, how the Dodgers are ruining everything.
But the thing that I loved is that what she
touched on Man. Freedman has been putting this formula together,
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I mean, and it hasn't always been perfect. He hasn't
always had the gold come at the end of the tunnel.
But he's been putting the formula together and it seems
like he's finally cracking the code. And what people don't realize,
all the haters of Dave Roberts. They say that he's
just a turnkey manager or whatnot. Dave Roberts has been
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the ultimate sit for this regime. You know as well
as I do. This ain't the days of early Brian Cashman,
of Bob Watson. This is a totally different philosophy in
baseball and the base and the Dodgers were smart enough
to find the exact two people that were the right
people to put this blueprint into play. And I think, man,
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there's gonna be a lot more hatred because the Dodgers
are staring at a dynasty. If the healthy can stay healthy,
we're looking at a good run. Hey, Bernie, you know
I love you, man. I appreciate all of the compliments
you always give me, Man, But at the end of
the day, Man, you are the star. We appreciate you
here on the Blowtorch and on all the Fox Sports
(36:29):
Radio because nobody does it like Bernie Fratto and it's
the Fratto fraternity. Love you, my man, shouts out to Breeze,
shouts out to Lorena and all the FSR. Three.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Wow, all right, thanks man, Well appreciate you. Man. If
we could just get man, will to get over the shyness,
say he's going to be just fine. Hey, James in
La checking in tonight. All the stars are coming out.
What do you got for us tonight, James.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Guardian at the beginning of the year. So shout out
to my guy, Manny. You know we can do that.
One till makes you larger, the other one makes you small,
my brother, so we can sing that song.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Hey, yeah, that little Jefferson airplane. Little look man, you guys,
I'm just gonna step aside, U M L Man. Well,
we got we got Domin Dammer, we got Joe Walsh,
We've got Jefferson airplane.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Hey, go ask Alice burning.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Tall. She's ten feet tall. All hits you right by
the way, hang on, hang on? Is your station for
good times in great oldies? All right? Coming up the
huge Corporation? No, forgive me, go ahead, James.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Gonna say, you're absolutely right. You guys are absolutely right
about the tanking. I can't tell you that the hurt
that Marcus Russell has put us through that draft pick man,
even though even though we have a just win mentality,
you know, uh, it shows you that even if he
tried to take and get him, it didn't work out.
(37:58):
You know, you look get the U and I'm not
saying they tank, but the undefeated New England Patriots, they
went seventeen and one or eighteen and one. Look at
the Minnesota Vikings when they had Randall Cunningham, you know,
and they went almost undefeated and they couldn't kick a
field goal at the end.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
So just because you get all these you tank for
these superstar people, doesn't mean you're gonna get it. The
only team in history, and I've been watching, like man,
you I've been watching since when Jack Tatum hit Sammy
White in the Super Bowl so hard as grandkids can
feel it, I've been a Red fan ever since. The
only team I remember ever in NFL history is when
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the ninety four nine Ers put together a hit squad
and they had to beat Dallas, and they got every
mercenary they could ever get on defense at on offense, they.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Got d d in that year.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they'd be.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
And they went and smoked the Chargers in the Super Bowl.
It's twenty point favorites.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Yeah exactly, and they covered it.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I believe they covered it. Yeah, forty nine twenty ye.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I think to me that that is the greatest the
NFL team in history. We can argue that another day.
But the way that they went out and just hired everybody,
and then you know, Dion, to his credit, went to
Dallas the next year and shifted.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
The level of power in the NFL strict.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Yeah, to the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
So but that ninety fourteen I think was the greatest ever.
And tanking doesn't work, man. You got to go.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Build your team. People have formulas.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
They start off with the defense. They start off and
then they get you get your quarterback, and you get
your defense and whatever things you like. Do you like
Belichick did it over twenty years and you see what
happened to him. He had a dynasty. You know, Kansas
City's doing it now. They got the quarterback and everything.
So there's a way to do it. But tanking is.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Not the way.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I'm agreeing one hundred percent with you guys.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
All right, good stuff, James Man. Well that next, buddy, yep.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
It's like Henry Winkler and the water boy. What's the matter, boy,
Just stupid? You're taking all right, stupid Listen. I don't
know anything about this, but annoying Black Friday shoppers. This
is what they've listed won the dressing room hog. They
say it's okay to pick off clothes, boots, sweaters, whatever
the hell you're looking for deals. That doesn't mean you
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can claim the dressing room for the entire morning. They say,
you know, try on the things you need and the
others do the same. Okay, I'm so away from my
pay grade here, but I'm running this down. Okay, so
you got the dressing room hog. The octomom. They say,
it's probably not a good idea to take all the
kids with you. Hopefully there's a bag of snacks and
toys if you have the little ones. Blah blah blah.
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They say, crying toddlers put a damper on shopping. Should
these people be excoriated for that? I don't know about that, man.
How about the pusher. Everybody in the store is out
to get something they have their eye on. Pushing and
shoving not acceptable, even though you are after an item
that seems to have a limited supply. Patients and good manners,
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even on Black Friday. How about the rude attitude. We
can all get a little crabby and crowds. Please don't
bark at the people you're shopping. Don't snap it to
the other shoppers around you. If you are in the store,
you set out for this experience or try to make
the best of it. So okay, So those are the
first four. The rude attitude, the pusher, the octomom, the
dressing room Hogue Lurana did any of these makes sense.
Speaker 7 (41:21):
For one who goes into a dressing room on Black Friday?
You do not have time to try things on. I
took my daughter to the stores that I'm interested in
tomorrow early, and I said, try everything on now and
then we'll go. I'll go on Friday and just get
it because we're not going to waste our time and
lose out on other deals. That just doesn't make sense to.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Me, all right, So that one, Brianna, these first four.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
I definitely agree with the rude toward like being rude.
I also do like, don't be rude to the people
working there, like they're already working on Black Friday, Like,
don't be rude towards them.
Speaker 8 (41:56):
I hate thought.
Speaker 7 (41:57):
Look, everyone needs a job in this economy right now. Okay,
I'm kidding. My dad used to work at Walmart, though,
and he said that Black Fridays were always so entertaining
because people are crazy and just nuts out there. And
I thought when I was younger, Black Friday was actually fun. Right,
you didn't have online shopping. You would look in the
magazines and be like, Okay, we're getting this, we're getting this,
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we're getting this. You'd go with your grandma and you
would you would take the grandkids because you would send
them to different parts of Walmart to get the different things. Right,
It's part of the fun. The madness is part of
the crazy. I've seen people take stuff out of carts
and I'm like, yeah, get them, get them.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (42:35):
People get violent though, that's when it's like people.
Speaker 9 (42:37):
Throwing down I mean, as they should should pick people
fighting over the new video game. All right, let's move on.
There's a few more here, all right. This one's called
the Starbucks a Haulic.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Apparently. You know, if you're gonna get up early, you're
going to be injected to caffeine.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
They say the key to surviving Black Friday is to
get some But somebody's coming and a little more ginnier
than they need to be, and they kind of stand out.
Then there's the slow poke. See, there's no dilly dally
on Black Friday. Most people have more than one stop
to make. Some people have a specific game plan they
won't appreciate. They don't want to wait behind you in line.
If you can't make up your mind, then there's the
bad parker. Most of the parking lots on Black Friday overflowing.
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Some stores might even need additional parking. Be courteous when
parking and there'll be room for everyone. So we got
the bad parker, the slow poke, and the Starbucks a
Hali Brianna, and of these makes sense.
Speaker 8 (43:27):
Oh, one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
The bad parker is probably the worst, especially when the
parking spaces are so small that's even that's super annoying.
And also I just don't like Dilly dowlling and people
in general. That's not a Black Friday thing, that's just
an everyday thing. When people are just super slow, it's
like that's the day where you really need to like
pump up the pace, like we're all on a time
restraint here, you know, pace.
Speaker 7 (43:47):
And intensity, people pacing, intensity.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Paying intensity words to live by. All right, how about
this one, the extreme couponter the extreme coupon. You see,
the checkout lines are the worst all day of the year.
They're the worst checkout lines all year. You try to
limit your time so everyone else can get in and
get out. No one wants to get behind the person
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who needs to use millions of coupons or splits their
payments into several cards. That's one. Then there's the fighter
there quote This is again from the study. There really
isn't any need to push and shove by while some
people are lining up for the hot toy this season
or that new vacuum cleaner. You know, they get a
little uh, you know what, There's no sense in shoving
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or arguing. Also, who was in line first? If you
don't get what you came for, that's part of the sport,
which leads to the next one. This one. I think
the line cutter someone would do that. They'd cut line.
Everyone's here for the same purpose. Don't take cuts and
ruin someone else's shopping experience. Chances are they have as
much to accomplish as you. This this is okay, So Lorraine,
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we get the line cutter, the fighter, and the extreme coupon.
Speaker 7 (44:58):
He well, I don't think they allow coupons on Black
Fridays because it's usually that double like you're already getting
a discount. You don't get a discount on the discount,
but that would be ridiculous. Who goes regular shopping on
Black Friday? Like people are afraid of the stores on
those days. Stay home. I could not, Uh the fighter. Yes,
like I said, I like that energy the one day.
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It's the one day of the year that you can
be like, no, it's mine at a store and it's
completely acceptable. Embrace the culture. This is America. We are greed.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Hello, Brianna. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:36):
Again, the extreme couponing I think is like a little annoying.
I think that's Yeah, there's just no point. It's you
You're already getting a deal. Everything's supposed to be like
half off or seventy five percent off or whatever. Like, really,
you're gonna save what another like twenty five cents to
like thirty five cents just because it's ten percent off.
Speaker 8 (45:51):
Like that's the most annoying thing ever.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Now VJ. Husky was saying, the whole thing is a scam.
They're not You're not really saving money. Can you guys
speak to that?
Speaker 5 (46:00):
I think I think it just depends on what like
I think, like when it comes to like technology, like
certain TVs and like video games. I mean, I guess
there might be like a little bit of discount, but
like close, I don't think now.
Speaker 8 (46:12):
I think now everyone's just kind of like screwed.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (46:14):
No, I've been going to the same store for about
a month and a half now every other day, and
I have seen the discounts that they've had and their
Black Friday deal they literally just had two and a
half weeks ago, forty percent off the entire store.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
So yeah, yeah, they want to get the retail season
started started earlier, all right. So that's basically the list
is anything but left out an you guys come up
with anything I above and beyond, go ahead.
Speaker 8 (46:39):
Yeah, I have one.
Speaker 5 (46:40):
So I hate when people are like kind of like
behind it, behind you or near you, or just like
all up in your personal space. Like if I'm looking
at something in an aisle and somebody comes right behind
me and they're just kind of like breathing down my neck,
that's just like annoying.
Speaker 8 (46:55):
As Yeah, I hate that, like the right is doing
like I just don't.
Speaker 5 (46:59):
I don't like that, Like everyone needs to be respectable
of like your space and like what you're doing. So
that's probably the most frustrating thing for me, and it's
already packed. Like I get that, but like, at least
try like personal space. It's just too much.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Fair Lurana, and it's not my list. I don't even
know what the hell I'm talking about.
Speaker 7 (47:20):
I know, No, I I don't know. I think the
whole thing of it's really fun. And even the parking
situation when you said that, it reminded me one of
the years we did it. It was one of those
late nights. I came in my pajamas, I had my
slippers on. Please brush your teeth, people, and take showers
and make sure you smell good, because once again, we're
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all really close to each other in those same thing spaces.
And if you are breathing over someone's shoulder, please please
have brushed your teeth. No one needs you all morning
breath in their face. But no, I parked really far
away one time from the Walmart and we walked in
and that parking lot was insane, insane. Make sure you're
using your blinkers and your blinders and have your lights
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on and use your mirrors so that you don't hit
anyone because people are not paying attention.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
No, and they're extra aggressive, so it's like you're already
aggressive trying to get there, and then you're in the
parking and then you're inside. It's just like it's just
a high stressful situation. So try to be like mindful,
like i'd full. Yeah, that's just how I feel.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
So this is basically a public service message so people
can get their act together. How much do you feel
a word of it?
Speaker 7 (48:26):
How much do I think people spend on Black Friday
on average?
Speaker 3 (48:30):
Well, I don't know if I don't know if there's
an average, is there a could there? I mean, someone
my what I've always observed on Black Friday is based
on what I see in the news is the new
shiny toy, and there's only a limited amount of a
number of them. Okay, So I've seen people lined up,
you know, game stop or somebod these for a new
video game or something at three in the morning and
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they're lining up fifty two deep and they got five
in stock. Then I've heard people pay pay for people
to cut in line, or pay people to sit there
or whatever. So I don't know how much people spend
on average, because I always thought Black Friday was for
those people looking for that one shiny new toy. It's
opposed to just a bunch of deals. But again, I
don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (49:09):
I just I looked up an article is like people
spend between seven hundred dollars and nine hundred dollars per
person in the holiday season, is specifically Black Friday, which
is insane.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
Well, the stores get a love that.
Speaker 7 (49:22):
Do you guys have a list of people you're shopping
for this year?
Speaker 3 (49:27):
I mean I don't.
Speaker 7 (49:29):
I mean, so far, it's just me. I'm just buying
stuff for myself.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Well, okay, so Black Friday is upon us? Last question,
are you of you participating in Black Friday which is
upon us, which is later today?
Speaker 7 (49:41):
Yeah, I'm probably I've already done. I've done previous shopping.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
I did.
Speaker 7 (49:45):
I did some on Wednesday this week.
Speaker 8 (49:48):
I personally am not.
Speaker 5 (49:50):
I did order like three things on Amazon that had
the little Black Friday a little thing next to it.
So I guess, yes, I did, so, I guess I
contributed just my way in regards to like, am I shopping?
But I will not be stepping foot into like a
store today?
Speaker 8 (50:03):
Absolutely not. Nope.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Well, then of course you've got the Cyber Monday right
right around the corner, right.
Speaker 8 (50:09):
I think they have better deals Okay, did forget about that?
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 7 (50:13):
And also the after Christmas specials are usually really good too.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Yeah, well that's very true, I think, yeah, after.
Speaker 7 (50:19):
Christmas because the stores overload on everything. They order too much,
and then they got to clear out their shelves. So
what do they do seventy five percent off?
Speaker 8 (50:28):
It's like with cars too, right, yep, yep, all.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
Right, I'm surely well exhausted. Coming up, coming up, you
might not want to hear this, but Major League Baseball
is about to do something that really also is not
It kind of make my teeth hitch. Coming up top
of the hour, We're going to be joined by Larry Sorenson,
good friend of mine, pitch ten years in the major leagues,
including the All Star Game, so I'm gonna certainly get
(50:54):
his thoughts on this, but I'm going to tell you
what they have in mind, and I don't like it.
I don't like it, but hear me out. I'm Bernie
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