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May 16, 2025 • 42 mins

Big Ben talks about the Nuggets forcing a Game 7 against the OKC Thunder, a book detailing how Caleb Williams went scorched earth to avoid getting drafted by the Bears, Lame Jokes of the Week, Coop's Scoop on Entertainment, and more!

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of that. I'm gonna make you wait for that. But
we are going to start right now at the very
top from five two hundred and eighty feet above sea level.
How do I know that? It was on the front
of the uniform the mile High City in Island game
The Island Life in the NBA Playoff Playoffs in just

(02:33):
one game on the NBA card Western Conference Semi Finals,
Game number six, and the ex clip Shay Jogas Alexander
and the Thunder looking to punch their ticket to take
on Minnesota in the Western Conference Finals, a date in
the Final four for Oklahoma City, and all they had

(02:54):
to do was go to Denver and beat the Nuggets.
And the media elites told me, the Nuggets have run
out of gas.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
There's nothing. They don't have a big enough rotation.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
They can't compete with the youthful legs of Oklahoma City.
So surely Nikola jokicch was cooked as the Nuggets. They
were just trying to stay alive, but they didn't have
the depth and they're gonna run out.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
You told me that. You told me that, all right.
So I don't know if you saw the game or night.
Maybe not. Maybe I was the only one watching.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
I did it for you. It's my good mits for
the day. So Jamal Murray, that's a basketball player. He
was sick. And there's nothing in all of sport that
can match NBA broadcasters talking about players that are sick.
They're literally on their deathbed, these players. Oh my god,
he needed around the clock medical attention. He had the

(03:42):
creeping crud. Anyway, Jamal Murray was sick. Can you imagine
showing up to work sick? Who does that? Well before
COVID most people did. Anyway, Jamal Murray was ill and,
according to the broadcasters, could have died. He then went
out and scored twenty five points and the Nuggets. He
guided them the guiding light for Denver for some of
the game, not the entire game, but he did enough

(04:02):
there and the Nuggets end up winning rather comfortably. The
game was not in jeopardy in the final part of
the fourth quarter, one nineteen to one oh seven.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
So what does that mean.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
It means the series now goes back to Oklahoma City
for a decisive Game seven. Nicola Jokic the Joke, led
the way with twenty nine points for Denver.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
He had fourteen rebounds.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Eight assists, and a partridge in the pear tree. And
Christian Brown, although it looks like its name should be Braun,
I'd rather be called Braun because that's a tough, you know,
tough Braun. Anyway, Christian Brown had twenty three points for
the Denver basketball team.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
And the thunder who were all giddy. They're like, oh man,
we're in.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Good shape there, and they had some opportunities with the
lead in this game. But Shake Jogas Alexander had thirty two.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
It was not enough.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
However, the good news is I know Kyrie is excited
about this and OKCS our buddy, he's a listener. The
better story is in the losing locker. So let us discuss,
all right, the question who's the fall guy? Who's the
fall guy for SGA's OKC squad?

Speaker 4 (05:10):
There's a lot of letters, SGA, OKC, who's the fall guy.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
For Oklahoma City? Unable to close out game six? So
my thoughts on this, I've got pow Truck, KFC and
eight ball and we will combine all of this randomness
together and we are going to make a happy dance.
Because if you bet on the Denver Nuggets, you had

(05:36):
a little happy dance there. You were very happy with
the outcome of this game.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Now, a there's one name that everyone agrees is at
the very top.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
If you got to have a fall gotta have a
fall guy, and that would be Jalen Williams. That is
a basketball player, not a good one apparently not right now,
I'm not getting a lot of bang for your buck
if you're an Oklahoma City He's got to wear this one.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
In fact, he was so bad, How bad was he?
He was so bad? He needed a bib. Okay, he
needed a.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Bib because he had a barf bag because he was
riding the vomit Comet. And when you ride the vomit comic,
you need a barf bag. You need a bib because
stuff goes everywhere. And now I'm not gonna sit here
and tell you he's the guy that is the center
of Oklahoma City's not the centerpiece. He's a secondary scorer
for the Thunder. We've seen them in the playoffs here

(06:28):
quite a bit. And he sucked at a time you
cannot suck, which is from pillar to post, and took
fifteen shots in the game, missed twelve of the fifteen.
I didn't play in the NBA. I just do the
Overnight show. I don't think that's good.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
You're a hater man. Okay, yeah, six points, that's it.
Six points. And this game was right for the picking.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
And it's not quite to the same degree as the Knicks,
who messed things up and they closed out Boston. They
gave Boston some life losing that last game in the
Eastern Conference side of the bracket. But you're messing around here.
You're messing around if you're OKAC. That game was in reach.
The game was tied at eighty late third quarter, late

(07:14):
third quarter, game tied at eighty, and right around that
time that is where the check engine light came on
the dashboard for the Nuggets.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
And it was what we're calling it, the.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Perfect ten, the perfect ten because the Thunder, and it
was not just not just Jaylen Williams, the entire.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Thunder team needed a tow truck.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
They ran out of gas. They ran out again. Now
killing the narrative that the youthful legs of Oklahoma City
they have the edge. How many of these stories have
we heard over the last couple of days that okayse
he's just younger hipper, they're cooler and they've got more
bouncy bounce in their legs. And the Nuggets of the

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old team they don't have enough depth there, they don't
play enough players, all this crap. But on this night,
Oklahoma City was huffing and puffing down the stretch. It
wasn't because of the altitude. Let's start stop with that.
And so every time at Denver Sports teams in a
big game it's the alta.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
They never win anything.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Stop.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
But the Thunder did go down under. They did at
the end of this game, outscored in a ten minute
block late third quarter, late third quarter to just a
few minutes on the clock.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
So from late third quarter about a little less than
two minutes third quarter to about three minutes or so
to go. In the basketball game, the Denver basketball team
outscored the Oklahoma City basketball team.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Saw you know.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
It was twenty nine to thirteen, and that was in
a ten oh three stretch. They ended up building up.
By the time that was all done, they had a
sixteen point lead in that stretch. And that was all
she wrote. That was all she wrote. Mister MVP, jogis
Alexander in that stretch. You're the MVP. You're supposed to
make sure your team doesn't get buried. He took four shots,

(09:04):
missed three of the four, and the thunder collectively shot
twenty percent. That's pepe lepew pay you twenty percent and
even worse from behind the arc, one of nine for
a robust eleven point one percent from three point range.
So that was game, set and match. And on the
other side, though, we gotta go to the Denver side

(09:27):
of things, page two here, what was the thing that
pushed Nikola jokicch and the the Nuggets into the Winter Circle.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
He was saying, well, it's gotta be Jamal Murray. It's
gonna be Murray Man. Murray was good. Okay, he was good.
Oh what about the Joker man, the joker dude. Oh yeah,
joker was good.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
But it was someone we've never heard of, Julian Strather
who he went KFC.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
In this game.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Strather who, Well, I guess he was the first round pick,
but he must have been one of those picks we
don't pay attention to near the end of the first round.
But he had the secret blend like KFC. He had
eleven herbs and spices all by himself in the back
breaking run for the Denver basketball team, that ten minute
stretch where they took the game over there and ended

(10:10):
up getting done the perfect ten if you will, as
we're calling here, He single handedly outscored a guy we've
never heard of, Julian Strather, outscored the.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Entire Oklahoma City team.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
He had fifteen points by himself all in that stretch,
and Oklahoma City as a team had thirteen points in
that stretch. So he was bounding and astounding out there
and just dropping out of thin air and in that
period of time. It was like he was back in
college and he was swooping and hooping and all that.

(10:45):
And Nikola Jokich, you figure he's dependable. Jamal Murray not
as dependable, although he does seem to make a lot
of big baskets in playoff games. He's won several playoff
games in recent years with clutch play. But those guys,
you you kind of assume they're gonna be there. The
other Jabbronis are the key, and that that is problematic

(11:07):
as we turn the page here going into a Game
seven situation, because now it comes down.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
To the greatest two words in sport, Game seven.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
All the marbles, winner, take all, winner, take all? Oh
my god, winner, take all? The tension, the drama, oh rama,
O MG.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
What is going to happen? You don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
You don't know what you don't know, So you gotta
watch to see if you can find out what you
don't know. Well, here is Shaye Jogis. Alexander as the
expected MVP, is going to tell you his thoughts on
a Game seven. Take a listen.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
It's Stuart I. It's oh what you did for It's
what's where's your whole life. For it's yes, either your
dream continues or your dream ends. So you lay it
out out there on the floor and live with the results.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Pro me.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
I'm excited for the opportunity for sure.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Okay, well you should get into talk radio because every
hour is Game seven. At any moment, could say the
wrong thing, Game over.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
That's it. You just have to live with the results
of the of the show.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Every night, Game seven, every minute the VU meter is
moving Game seven. That's see, these athletes only get a
few Game sevens. Every single segment is a Game seven
in talk radio, every single segment.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
All right, so let's let's get us the game will
be playing.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
As we mentioned, in Oklahoma City, the thunder were the
highest seed in the entire NBA the sixty eight win
regular season. They were the number on the overall seed.
And are Nicola jokicch and the Nuggets doomed?

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Are they doomed.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Having to play in Oklahoma City for a Game seven?
And my answer is three words, not at not at all.
And after asking the counsel of the magic eight ball,
we went up to the magic eight ball. We said,
magic eight ball, almighty all powerful magic eight ball. If
Denver we asked the magic ball, does Denver have a

(13:17):
legitimate opportunity to win Game seven in Oklahoma City? The
magic eight ball? We shook it, it replied, outlook good.
Let me repeat that, outlook good from the magic eight ball.
So we will be betting on the Nuggets while the thunder.
We'll have the.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Crowd on their side, and I'm sure they'll make a
big deal. They'll all wear the same colored T shirts
and all that.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
My argument is this, it is an antiquated take that
home court matters in modern basketball. It is an antiquated take.
Let me make my elevator pitch. I'll give you my
supporting Gavin is why is an antiquated take at home
court matters in these playoffs? NBA teams are thirty one
and thirty if my math is correct, in the playoffs

(14:02):
at home, they're one game above five hundred at home
the home team. If you look at game seven since
twenty twenty one, the home team is only five and
ten in game seven since twenty twenty one. There is
a massive seed change that has taken place since the

(14:24):
pandemic in home court advantage.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
What used to be is no.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Longer like it's an old It's like, say, defense wins
championships in football while you're dating yourself. Home court historically
the home team had won, but seventy nine, almost eighty
percent of the time.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
There's been a dramatic change in recent years. Now, why
is that, Well, there's a lot of variables. One of
the variables is the teams don't really give a crap
about the regular season. That's one of them, right.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
You also have the load management see first point for
second point, and the fact that all these arenas are
pretty much the same. There's no they're all I've been
to NBA games in different cities. They play the same music,
The cheerleaders come on the court at the same time,
the mascot comes out at the same time. It's just

(15:15):
a different outfit for the cheerleaders or the mascots that
got a different costume.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
But it's all cookie cutter.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's all essentially the same every city you go through.
But in terms of the pressure, we know pressure breaks
pipes and pipe pipes burst. Because so there's obviously more
on the Thunder and we all agree on that there's
going into Game seven, there's more pressure on the Thunder.
Dream season number one Seaton sixty eight wins, sixty eight
win season. You've got Shade Jogis, Alexander Sga is going

(15:44):
to be the MVP phenomenal. He's been good in this series,
averaging twenty eight points and almost eight rebounds and seven
assists and a bunch of steals.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
He has not hurt.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
He's not earned the dependable label. And I look at
the Nuggets like, well, the Nuggets, Eh Jokich has been
the best player in the series, and career wise, he's
a much better career player than Sga side by side,
and you figure out he will dominate, he should dominate
the big guys. In Game seven, they got Chet Holmgren

(16:15):
and Isaiah Hartenstein.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
For Oklahoma City.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
And even though Yokach had a couple of duds in
this series, it wasn't because of anything Oklahoma City was doing.
He just didn't play well in a couple of games.
But you just look at the Nuggets. They can still
smell they can smell that twenty twenty three title. And
they've got a joker as a coach, not just a
joker as a player. The impractical Jokers look alike the

(16:39):
James Murray of NBA coaches. David Adaman, the NEPO baby
who took over for the coach people thought was good
Malone right before.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
The playoffs started.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
So when you whack your coach before the playoffs, you're
pretty much saying we're not good enough, we don't think
we're gonna be good enough, we don't think we're going
to win. Otherwise you wouldn't make that particular move right
before the playoffs. So that's the setup going into a
Game seven between the Thunder and the Nuggets.

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Speaker 4 (17:18):
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So our lead this hour from a nice, juicy story
out of the library.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
That's right, when's the last time you went to the library?

Speaker 1 (18:43):
I bet it's been a minute, although I think Cowboy
John Brad and Dick and Dayton go there daily, but
for the rest of us, it's likely been a minute.
So you heard that, right the library. The chatter around
the NFL.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
As we sit here in mid May.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
The chat all about excerpts from a fourthcoming book which
is not going to hit the bookshelves in the library
till September.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
If you didn't hear.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
About this, and maybe not, maybe not. This goes back
to last NFL season. The can't miss top pick in
the draft, Caleb Williams, and he's a Chicago Bear. He
didn't want to be a Chicago Bear. How do we
know that, Well, we knew it at the time, and
now we know it again because of a new book

(19:30):
which is coming out and they're piping up the book.
The way the book game works, as it has been
explained to me, before the book comes out, about three
months before you start leaking stuff. You try to build
up to a crescendo. You get a lot of buzz
going for the book. So this is why this stuff
is leaked a few months before the book comes out.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
So Kayla Williams and his.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Father, the dad Carl, attempted to circum the NFL draft.
They did not want the Chicago Bears to select Caleb
Williams in the twenty twenty four NFL draft. This guy
Seth Wickersham, who had a lot of dirt on the
Patriots a couple of years back. He's a scribe that

(20:14):
likes to dig into the weeds, and he's got a
new book coming out now. It's not specifically about Caleb Williams.
It's about quarterbacks and some of the other guys around
the NFL, like de Manning family that were able to
successfully avoid playing for the old San Diego Chargers and
things like that.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
So Chicago.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
According to the book, there's a quote from Carl Williams,
the father of Caleb, who said Chicago is the place
quarterbacks go to die. And with Williams being the clear
cut number one pick coming out of us, you have
father there. Carl was very open. He didn't hide this,

(20:55):
He didn't keep this on the down low. This was
not spoken in hush tones. Multiple agents in twenty twenty
four that he did not did not want his kid
to play for the Bears, who had the top pick.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
Now.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
He went as far as to consult Archie Manning, who
successfully punked with Eli Manning. The old San Diego Chargers
orchestrated behind the scenes of trade to avoid Eli from
playing for the San Diego Chargers. So my friends in
San Diego upset that the Chargers left to go to LA.

(21:32):
You can blame Eli Manning. He didn't want to play
there and that led to a trickle down. Eventually the
team left to go to LA and Eli played for
the Giants, and Eli did turn out to be a
middling quarterback.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
He really want all that good?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
A lot of dumb people, the casuals, think Eli was good.
He wasn't We all know that, but he did go
on and made a lot of money and people like
him because of two days or two playoff runs.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
Other than that, he was a failure.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Now part of the book, Williams decided Caleb Williams decided
he wanted to be drafted by the Minnesota Vikings of
all teams, because he had a bromance with Kevin O'Connell.
At the NFL scouting combine, they were sitting around roasting
marshmallows and singing Kumbaya unless they weren't. But the Chicago

(22:18):
Bears GM Ryan Pole stepped in and said, no matter what,
we're drafting you. We're drafting you, and so.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Now. One of the other interesting quotes that has been
tossed out to try to promote this book by Seth
Wickersham is the quote from Carl Williams who said the
rookie cap is unconstitutional. He said, the collective bargaining and
agreement is the worst piece of s word I've ever read.

(22:49):
It's the worst in sports history. The father of the
Bears quarterback said, so let us discuss there's a lot
to pick apart on this. So the question will be
like the high picking the meat off the rotting carcass.
So the question give me your reaction reacts on to
this book that paints the picture the way I read

(23:10):
these excerpts that Caleb Williams and his dad they went
scorched earth to avoid the Bears and it didn't work,
much like Caleb Williams trying to avoid a sack.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
That doesn't work either. Right, So my observations, I've.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Got the pop swap sewing machine and voting numbers and
voting numbers, and we will combine all of these things together,
and we are gonna make the chicken schwarma.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Is what We're gonna make the chicken shwarma. So number
I said, number.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
All right.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Let me preface this by saying that doing a daily
talk show, none of this was new in terms of
Kleb Williams not wanting to play for the in terms
of Caleb Williams attempting to get out of playing for
the Bears, like that, stuff's not new information if you

(24:09):
pay attention to the Daily Grind. The part that is
new is Kevin O'Connell. All right, now, Kevin O'Connell, his
connection is his.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Bond with these quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Next level, the rest of it's just kind of confirmation
and all that that, the rumors which so many people
like to sweep aside.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Why do you talk about rumors? Why do you? I
don't understand. Why do you talk about rumor?

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Is?

Speaker 1 (24:40):
None of it's real, It's just meaningless drivel. That's why
people don't like talk radio because okay, well all of
it was right, It's all documented right there. The father,
Carl Williams, was not bashful, right, he was not bashful.
And in this case, you look at the Bears right
now where they find themselves a year in to the

(25:03):
Caleb Williams experience. And so the Bears franchise has done
the old.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Pop swap back of the old days.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
The Bears love to romanticize Papa Bear Hallis Hall Is
where they practice at. Papa Bear, the legendary John, the
figure that's bigger than life in Bears history, Papa Papa
Bear George Hallis.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
So that was back in the day.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Now they have pageant Papa is what they They went
from Papa Bear to pageant Papa the enthusiastic, supportive, overly
involved dad, right, But Dad a Carl the father here
was deep inside the Duffel bag of tricks, the deep
dive into the Duffel bag of tricks now everything from

(25:46):
trying to get an ownership stake in the Bears to
as far as we know, he probably deputized Sweet James
and called Jacob type lawyers.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
To escape the Bears.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
And they read over all the legal ease and tried
to find some kind of loophole.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
None of it were all right now, pitchd So what
is the message?

Speaker 1 (26:05):
What is the message that Carl Williams was sending by
trying like the Dickens to avoid the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
So this is a terrible look. I have an unpopular
opinion on this. I realized that many people are like,
oh yeah, I'd avoid the Bears too. The Bears blow, man.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
And the Bears do blow, and the Bears do suck
my entire life other than like one or two years,
you know, as a little kid. The Bears have been pathetic,
all right, they've been pathetic despite that. This is a
bad look. It is a bad look because.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
What you're telling me by it didn't work.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
But you tried to do it. You couldn't do it,
which also looks bad. You're not powerful enough to do it.
Other people have been able to do it. You couldn't
do it. But the pageant Papa spelled out that he
and his kid, No, the kid's not that good. He
is not the that powers the show Caleb Williams.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
That Caleb and.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
The and the father, these guys, they doubted his ability
to be a franchise game changer.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
That is a loser's attitude. Oh the coachization.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Okay, if you're that good, if your God's gift of football,
none of that other stuff matters.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
None of it matters. You are so good.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
You go out there and you rise all the other
boats the rising tide, right, everyone else rises around you.
You don't run from the grind. And it sounded like
he couldn't pull it off. He tried to do it.
Caleb Williams tried to run from the grid and he
was handed some scraps. And instead of trying to go

(27:48):
out and get that sewing machine and sew together a masterpiece,
he's like, noa, no, I want to go somewhere where
I get the good silk and I can I can
have better material. And instead of your own reality turning,
you're turning to run. He could even pull that off.
You're supposed to turn the stumbling block into the stepping stone,

(28:09):
and his father loser's attitude and Caleb Williams losing attitude.
Listen the Bear's history with quarterbacks. That tells you what
has happened, not what's going to happen now. At the time,
they had Matt Eberflu's and Shane Waldron as the two
brains on offense. But if you're the spark that lights
the fire, you change the history of those guys. And

(28:31):
it turns out that he wasn't that. Caleb Williams is not.
You're not that guy, Pal, You're not that guy, all
right because Eberflus lost his job. Shane Waldron lost his
job before Eberflus did with the Chicago Bears. Right now,
final point, So, how will Caleb Williams widely report it
now it's in a book uneasiness with the Chicago football team?
How is this going to impact his long term relationship

(28:55):
with the Bears and their fan base in Chicago. So
since he got drafted by the Bears, Caleb Williams has
publicly said all the right things. For the most part,
He's done everything you're supposed to do publicly. But you know, privately,
there's a different position on this, and so where I
sit from thirty thousand feet looking down, this is gonna
burd Dog Williams. It's on the public record. We are

(29:19):
at a fork in the road situation. Right, You're gonna
go this way, you can go that way. We're at
a fork in the road situation. You have multiple outcomes
in the multiverse. Ultimately, much like we talk about the
home court advantage and championship pedigree and all these bull
crap things momentum after the fact, this is also one

(29:41):
of those things where if you can have some success,
the outcome will determine how this goes. Get get out
the cologne. You have some success. We know that winning
cures everything. Should Caleb Williams turn the Bears into a
legit contender, this will all be part of a nice
cute story. The guy that did and want to go
to Chicago and he turns out to be the savior

(30:03):
of the Bears franchise.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
The Messiah and all that.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Now, if he continues to play the way he's playing
is the Duke of Puke, then this will be used
as an example as to why Chicago should have never
gotten into business with Carl Williams or Caleb Williams. And
this just continues the incompetence of the Bears and the
early voting numbers. If you look at the early voting
numbers and the exit polling are in, and the Bears

(30:28):
fans should not be happy. They should panic because Caleb
Williams has been two things, a stat bandito, a stat bandito,
and a broken clock, his internal clock. If you've been
sacked sixty eight times in your rookie season, right, you got.
It's not coaching, it's not the offensive line.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
That's on you.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
You suck, you blow, that's on you, right, sixty eight
sacks third most in NFL history.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Only David Carr.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
With an expansion team in O two and Randall Cunningham
in the mid eighties with the Eagles have been sacked
more in the season. And he lost Cables lost four
hundred and sixty six yards four hundred and sixty yards
on sacks, four six six on sacks, which was the
fourth most lost on sacks in the history of pro football.

(31:20):
And remember the sack is a quarterback stack. The low
information fan, the uneducated fan, will say, oh, it's on
the office, low and blame the fat guy. No, most
of the time, not always, but most of the time
the sack is on the quarterback, and it should also
be mentioned here. The experts say in the game the

(31:42):
sack is half a turnal because you when you're sacked,
you're you're pretty much torpedoed that drive. So a sack
is worth half a turnover, which means do the Malard
math on this. So sixty eight sacks as a rookie,
and if each sack is worth for turnover, that's an
extra thirty four turnovers. Thirty four turnovers. On the resume

(32:06):
of Caleb Williams, the Dancing Bear who didn't want to
be a bear and is a bear, and good luck,
good luck to the Chicago Bears. He just doesn't seem
like he's it. Doesn't seem like he's it. We'll see
what happens there.

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What they say is?

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What is blind Scott's favorite chicken fast food restaurant?

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(34:08):
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Thank you, Eric, you hear Bill Belichick dumb Jordaan Hudson
for Lorena? Wow, Yeah, Lorena doesn't know about it yet either.

(34:32):
Belichick claims that she's more athletic and can definitely take
a joke better so or hit a hit better hit,
But that's Tom from Indiana.

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You do like a hit, Lorena definitely?

Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yeah?

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All right?

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Why hasn't angry Bill called lately? Why he's working.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
On his new movie, Unhappy Gilmore is what he's working on.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
That's Eric in Kansas. There you go, big Ben's lame
jokes of the week. Well did you hear that Holloween
James is going to try out for the Twins?

Speaker 3 (35:32):
No?

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Wow, yeah, yeah, he wants to be a bulk reliever,
said Eric in Kansas. There, all right.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Why does weed Man Hippie boycott Apple Products? Why he
does not want anything to do with the company founded
by a guy named Jobs?

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Nothing? That's George and Uvaldi? Is your roommate's still gone?

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What is one word weed Man Hippie has never heard
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Where did weed Man Hippie's roommate move to where he upgraded?

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Speaker 4 (37:00):
Anyways, entertainment.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Right now here is justin.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Cooper at roncle Man.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Take it away, my man. Who's gonna win Nick nor
Celtics tonight in Game.

Speaker 6 (37:14):
Six Nicks is Celis Game seven Monthay, I got my
whole menu playing on Monday night Game seven Celtics and Nicks.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
I'll be watching Nick's all day baby. Oh stop, oh
yes it is yo. Kid's gonna choke it. That's Green Team.
That's the wrong game. Oh my god, Laurada.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
You just.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Anyway, thanks to Marcel, uh, We've got a few interesting
things that I'm excited about this weekend as far as
the world of entertainment. She thought she was so cool
with that line.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
And now she nailed it. Yeah, out of the eye.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Anyway, let's let's start in the theaters. Coming out right now,
Available in theaters right now is Final Destination Bloodlines. Yes,
that is right, the Final Destination series is back. It's
getting rave reviews. My buddies saw the movie already. He said,
it's it's the best or second best Final Destination movie

(38:20):
in the entire franchise. And basically this is kind of
like a prequel in Origin story. It takes us back
to the beginning of death twisted sense of justice, and
so it's very excited about that. I will be checking
that out this weekend. Moving over to television, we have
a new show called.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Duster On that could be taken several different ways.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Coop on HBO Max because it is HBO Max again.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yeah, take that.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
I wish we could have been in the meeting when
they said, no one knows what this is, we need
to go back to HBO.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
I would love to have been in that man somewhere
on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
So Max they Yeah, it felt yeah, I know h
HBO has like you know Cachet, Yes, yes, exactly. It
was just a bad movie and it felt really weird
doing coop scoop entertainment being like, oh, you can check
that streaming on Max, Like what is that now?

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Is that worse or better than the was it the
Budweiser marketing people?

Speaker 4 (39:32):
I don't know. I don't know what you know, decide
for yourself. But that doesn't seem like a great decision.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
I'm just saying I think it's I mean, I think
that and changing Twitter to X are the two worst
rebrands of all time.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
Uh, but you know, the X thing's kind of blamed.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
It is like we it had its own like word
for the post, like tweets and that now what just
posts like everything posts like a message board.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
I don't know anyway.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
This this new show Duster on HBO Max is available
right now. It comes from producer jj Abrams and it
reunites him with the lost star Josh Holloway, who I
haven't seen in anything in a long time. But it
is a new crime drama set in the Southwest in
nineteen seventy two, and it also stars Rachel Hilson as
the FBI's first black female agent as she recruits a

(40:20):
getaway driver who was played by Holloway, to help her
take down a growing crime syndicate. And that one's got pretty.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Good reviews so far.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
The first of eight episodes is available right now on
HBO Max. Moving on to Apple TV Plus, this is
also available right now to stream. It is a new
sci fi series called murder Bot and it stars Alexander
Scarsguard as the titular character, an introverted, well armed cyborg

(40:50):
provide a program to provide security with lethal efficiency.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Even cyborgs are introverted.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Yes, we'll see this cyborg has hacked itself. This is
based on a series of award winning novels called The
Murder Bought Diaries. But this cyborg has hacked itself to
escape its one time corporate owner. But it prefers to
spend time alone consuming streaming media. So this is like,

(41:18):
so this is a sci fi series, but it is
at times comedic, and it is from the makers of
American Pie and yeah, that is available on Apple TV Plus.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
American Yeah Classic.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
First of the first two of ten episodes is available
right now and then they will release the rest weekly
on Apple TV Plus. And last, but not least, lost
my spot here the next season of the Showtime series
The Shy, which I have been watching since the season

(41:55):
seven now, But that premieres Sunday on Showtime or parent
Mount Plus, whichever whichever way you get your your showtime.
And uh yeah, that is coop Scoop Entertainment
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