June 12, 2025 • 40 mins
Big Ben talks about the Pacers completing another comeback to win Game 3 against the Thunder and take a 2-1 lead in the NBA Finals, five teams denying the Knicks the opportunity to interview their coaches, Maller to the Third Degree, #AskBen, and more!
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me so our lead. This hour is from the Hoosier
State That was the stage for Game three of the
NBA Finals. Once a generation the Pacers play in the finals,
and I was there the last time many years ago
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they played in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
But they were back home. Game there.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Jay yogis Alexander leading the Thunder into Indianapolis for a
battle with Tyrese Halliburton and the Pacers. Where are you watching?
Of course you were not watching based on the ratings crickets,
but don't worry. We watched so you would not have
to the life of a mensch. Are good mitzvah of
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the day, And it was a secondary actor that took over.
Benedict Mathern twenty seven points off the bench. The Dagger
twenty seven points off the bench, played well in the
fourth quarter. Tyrese Halliburton had twenty two and eleven nine
rebounds and a partridge in a paar tree and the
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upstart Pacers, who were given less than a ten percent
chance of winning this series. Well, right now, they're in
good shape as they retook the lead in the NBA
Finals slithering pass the thunder by nine in Game three
on Wednesday night. As now Indiana two wins away from
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having a parade, two wins away from a championship, and
one of the great players on this show, a man
that has been immortalized by our friend Marcel and Brooklyn
Pascal Siakam got to make sure I say that right.
Twenty one points for Indiana. So the Pacers who lost
Game two and a route or root a non competitive
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Game two, and then had about seven weeks off, they
come back, they will get to win. So they improve
now to ten and oh ten and oh since mid
March in the game following a loss. So if they
just do that, if they just win every other game
since they won Game one using malor math, they are
going to be crowned the champions of the NBA. Now,
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Game four, shockingly will be played on Friday night. I
hope the players can deal with that having only one
day off between the games. With The better story is
where have I trained you like Pavlov's dogs? Yes, the
losing locker room. So let us discuss the question who
wears the shame bell? For SGA's OKC team that.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Did have a small lead, a small lead.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Going to the fourth quarter, and they blew it a
five point lead going to the fourth quarter, and they
were outplayed by a wide margin by Indiana in Game
three of the finals. So who wears the shame bell?
I've got house keys, booster, and lecture, and we will
combine all of these things together and we are going
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to make cotton candy because that's what I saw from
Oklahoma City in the fourth quarter. They played like cotton candy.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
In terms of the shame bell.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
And there's one thing we love in overnight sports radio
is pointing the finger and giving the shame bell. The
head of the snake is the problem here.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Where have you gone?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
SGA? A thunder nation, whatever that means, turns his lonely
eyes to you, as Shay it was right there. We'd
like to say on this show, when you play bad
in a big game in a key moment, you've written
the vomit comet and there he was. He disappeared. It's
kind of like when you're when you're looking to leave
the house and you forgot where you put the keys,
and you're kind of digging around the junk drawer and
(05:24):
you can't find the house keys that you know they're
in the drunk the drunk drawer, the junk drawer, and
you can't find them. Right, You're like, what's going on?
How bad was he? All right, I'll answer the question.
So okase mentioned they had they had a small lead,
a bite sized lead going to the fourth quarter. Now
we know that that's not that big an advanced five points.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
However, you are the MVP.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
You have been compared in columns, online posts, glowing reports
from fun boys. You have been compared to Michael George
and Kobe Bryant. Yes, I know it's ridiculous, but you
have it. Yeah, this good player, but it seems a
little much. So anyway, what did SGA do to add
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another chapter to his book of legends?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Don't ask.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
He grabbed a pillow and a blankie and he took
a nap.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Shay's fingerprints were all over this one.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
He had a very ugly stat line as Shae Jogis
Alexander three points, one rebound and had as many assists
as you and I had none and one turnover in
the fourth quarter. He was not the player that he
had been getting the calls, getting the separation, the everything
was a little off, and that became problematic as Indiana
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was able to take advantage there in the Pacers get
her done. And let's hear from the man of the
hour SGA here pointing out that, hey, the other guys
over there, they were scratching and clawing a bit.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Take a listen.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Yeah, they were aggressive, they were hiring the pick and rolls.
They really were just like Courts said, more aggressive, more forceful.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Yeah, we gotta starts with me, but we gotta apply
that pressure back.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, you're you're the MVP, a three hundred million dollar guy,
you're all that.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Come on, you gotta get it done.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
All right? Well, what about game number four? That's the
next game here? Do you have any thoughts on that
you'd like to share with the class.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
It felt like they won all the fifty to fifty plays.
They executed on both of the both ends.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Of the ball.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
You're still going when you give those two things up,
and no matter what quarter, you're probably gonna lose the quarter,
especially and then it goes back to especially on the
road in the hostile environment and their crowds behind them.
So yeah, we got to take care of those things.
If you want to come out a game forward a.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Dub okay with the dub All right, very nice, all right,
So here we go again. He sucked at a time
you cannot suck, and you can't do that in the
finals and all that stuff. This is a legacy situation
and he was a bird without wings, unable to take
off there in the fourth quarter. But in general, Oklahoma City,
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as was mentioned here, it was just out hustled. You
don't have to be an NBA coach or some kind
of high falutin insider to know. You just have to
be able to know ball.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
We know ball.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Do we not know ball? Come on, we know ball.
We are experts at ball. So in general, Oklahoma City
was just bad all the way around. Late in the game,
but thanks to Indiana backup. As we mentioned the star
of the show Benedict Mathern. The math was math in
there twenty seven points. The Thunder outscored by thirty one points.
(08:46):
I believe if my math is correct, it was twenty one.
It was a lot.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
It was a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I think it was thirty one. Anyway, it was like
a lot of bench points, most of it from Mathron.
A huge advantage there in the bench point, it was
forty nine to eighteen. Now page two, So let's go
to the winning locker room, which is not as good
as story, but we'll go there anyway. So you have
a two to one lead in the NBA Finals. You've
got home court advantage. If you just win the home games,
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you're going to win the championship. So dude, Tyrese Haliburton
and the Indiana Pacers have a stranglehold on the NBA Finals.
So if you look at the comps on this, they
are a hitter batting eight hundred at this point. The
comps say, the analytics say, you are an eight hundred hitter.
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You're not Tony Gwyn, You're not Ty Cobb. You're an
eight hundred hitter. That's Beer League Softball history says the
Pacers are in control. In the forty one previous NBA
Finals that were tied at a game apiece, the team
that won Game three got to get that shiny hunk
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of metal thirty three times. That's an eighty percent winning
clip eighty point five percent. So clear advantage to the Pacers.
But as we often point out, what do we say
here the disclaimer? As the great Dick Stockton, legendary sportscaster
taught me, He said, ben stats tell you what has happened,
not what's going to happen. This is clearly a booster
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shot for Indiana, and unlike some of those booster shots
we had to take a few years ago, these actually work.
So can Benedict Mathern bottle this up and do it again?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Does he even have to do that again?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
It is a game Indiana won with Tyrese Haliburton, who
is known as the closer, and he was not the
closer in terms of big shots fourth quarter. He was
one of four down the stretch in the fourth quarter
and had just three points.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
So this is an.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Exhale situation for Indiana and they're in good, good shape.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
But are they really?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I mean, you can't lose it home, So it's like
you gotta win these home games. If you just merely
win the home games, you don't have to win another
game in Oklahoma City, you don't have to worry about
that where SGA seems to get every call now, last word,
So there's a lot of people in the NBA that
are freaking out. They're running around trying to put out
fires here because no one's watching the finals in comparison
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to years gone by, it's just a bad product. People
aren't into it, and the people have spoken, and so
everyone's trying to come up with rationale. Adam Silver has
pulled seven muscles trying to manipulate the numbers. We Lebron
James has entered the chat. Of course, Lebron, you know
(11:38):
who he's blaming for the lack of an audience for
the NBA Finals.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Did you see this?
Speaker 5 (11:44):
No?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
All right, Lebron James is blaming the media.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It's the media's fault, the lack of emotion, the lack
of interest by Joe Schmoe, Joe sixpack doesn't care. The
Hoy PELOI is not watching the NBA Finals.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Lebron says that the media is not telling enough stories
and they're not doing their homework. He says they're failing
the fans. Is he right? All right? So let me
begin with this. This is a the word I will
use is ridiculous. Capital r capital are ridiculous. The basketball
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media are a bunch of lightweights. They are not the problem. Okay,
they are not the problem. The Thunder and Pacers. The
Thunder in particular a great team right regular season, great
team and all that they tried to win the regular season.
The Pacers ever since, like January, played very well. The
issue is they don't have star power. And that's the
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secret ingredient, which is not so secret that people search
out the casuals.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
That's what they look for.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And usually you have at least one headliner in the
NBA finals, whether it's Steph Curry or Lebron who people
love to hate. So you don't have that. You don't
have curR, you don't have Lebron, you don't have an audience.
And the media, the evil media. I have read a
number of glowing think pieces, stories about the magic of
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Shay Jogis Alexander and the mythical superpowers of Tyresse Halliburton. Unfortunately,
those guys don't make the public tingles. Not my opinion,
it's a fact. Okay, sorry, not sorry. It's nice of
media expert Lebron James to lecture the rank and file
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on storytelling. This is classic Lebron. Is This not perfect
for Lebron. He's always got to control the narrative and
make everything about him. Now, I have done a TV
show the last couple of years with a guy who
does that too, makes everything about him, and I hate
people like that. What are the basketball media types supposed
(13:57):
to do if the public doesn't are they gonna force
them to care? Where are they gonna make a cooking
documentary with Pascal Siakam cooking his favorite dish, pasta prima era, Like?
What are they gonna a deep dive on Tyreese Halliburn.
I don't know if he collects Pokemon cards or not,
but it looks like he might be the guy that
collects Pokemon cards.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I'm not judging.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I'm just saying there's no amount of storytelling, none that
can replace star power, and that is the real issue.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
You're starting out.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
It's like starting a race and you're behind by a
couple of lengths at the race because the market size
is a huge advantage. You have bigger market, there's more people.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Not everyone in every big city cares about sports. There's
a lot of weirdos that aren't like us, that don't
like sports. They don't have the sports gene so they
don't understand. But there's enough if you're in the big city,
the big metropolis is where you have enough people that
do care and are passionate, and then the other people,
some of them a percentage of those people, well we
better watch because everyone else is watching. So it becomes
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a communal thing. And even if that same effect happens
in a place like Oklahoma City or Indianapolis, the size
thing is the issue. That's the that's the rubs, as
they say, whoever they are.
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As the Pacers and Thunder play a Barnberger in the
NBA Finals and Indiana winning that game. Thanks getting wacky
for the team that the Pacers beat in the Eastern
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Conference Finals. Now, if you have not heard, perhaps not,
the New York Knicks have now been denied permission to
speak with Chicago Bulls head coach Billy Donovan about the
head coaching job in Gotham. And if that sounds familiar
it should we have learned now the Knickerbockers have been
rejected by everyone.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
By everyone.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
In fact, the coaches include Jason Kidd, Chris Finch, Quinn
Snyder in Atlanta, Billy Donovan, as we mentioned, emy Udoka,
They've all said we want no part in that. In fact,
I even rejected the Knicks. They contacted me. They said, no,
my brother lives there. I don't want to live there.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
So let us discuss the question, what have we learned
about the New York Knicks with this episode playing out
the last forty eight hours, that they have been turned
down by everyone since they made the coaching change.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
What have we learned about the Knicks?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
So I've got fun zone, bonfire and supply chain shortage,
and we will combine all of these things together and
we are going to make some thin cut pastrami, which
is really the perfect way to eat pastrami, that thin cut,
nice sandwich.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
A couple slices of bread.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
There, all right, So numb Burrow, I said, numb Burrow. Yeah,
what we have learned about the Knicks since the coaching
change that the move to fire Tom Thibodeau was a
knee jerk reaction as we anticipated it was at the
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time by James Dolan. This was owner rage, embarrassed by
losing to the upstart Pacers. So he's get the cooling
off period, the Knickerbocker owner and sent Tom Thibodeau to
the coaching electric chair and said, begon, Tims, begon. Now
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this was not supposed to happen. This was not part
of that. How do we know that? In the big
industrial complex of professional sports, the way it works is
and it also works like this in radio. When you
get rid of someone, you already have the replacement ready
to go. It's all semantics. You already have the person
to replace the coach ready to go. It never works
(19:34):
this way. It's not supposed to work this way. And
now James Dolan, the owner of the New York Knickerbockers,
finds himself in a fund zone called the Puzzling World.
Now this amusement park, come one, come all fun for
all ages. Only one ride. Though the ride is amazed.
(19:55):
You're stuck in a maze. There is no exit, just
to some twists and turns and a whole lot of confusion.
That is the Puzzling World, the fund zone of the
New York Knickerbockers. How many coaching rejections does it take
for the Knicks franchise to get the message that they
are painfully out of touch and it's not a great
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job and people don't want to go there because if
you are keeping score at home or at work, or
wherever you might be, they have now been told no
by Jason Kidd of the Mavericks, Chris Finch in Minnesota,
Quinn Snyder in Atlanta, Billy Donovan in Chicago, and e
May Udoka in Houston. That is the big five, a
(20:37):
five pack of denials, a five piece nugget, five doors
slam shut, thanks but no thanks. Now, I did some
Mallard back of the napkin math. I believe I'm right
on this. So let's do it out. We'll do the algebra,
we'll play it out right now. So if you take
away the Suns, the Grizzlies, and the Nuggets, who all
just hired coaches, so why would they let their coach leave?
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The Sons, the Grizzlies, and Nuggets just hired their coaches,
you'd also take away the Pacers and Thunder because their
coaches are in the NBA Finals. You then of course
take the Knicks off because they're the team looking for
the coach.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
So there's thirty teams originally in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
So I just eliminated by my math there, I eliminated
the Sons, the Grizzlies, and the Nuggets. That's three, the
Pacers in Thunder that's five, and then I also eliminated
the Knicks, so that's six. So there's twenty four other
teams available, and the math is like twenty percent. Twenty
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percent of the available coaches have rejected rejected the Knickerbockers,
and so the Knicks. It's like an old school telemarketing thing.
The Knickerbockers are now so clueless they are cold calling coaches.
It's like, hello, Jason Kidd. Yeah, hey Jay, Jason, Yeah,
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this is James Dolan, owner of the New York Knicks.
How you doing today? Okay, good? How's the family?
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Hey, if I could show you a way to coach
the Knickerbockers at the Mecca, would you be interested in
learning more about the Knicks coaching job?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Click? Yeah, that's what it's like.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
The Knicks fancy themselves as a world class destination, right.
Premiere franchise big city, r most famous arena, world's most
famous arena. However, five of the successful coaches, some of
them are even not that successful, have said no, and
make no mistake, Well, the teams have denied it, and
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the Knicks will say, well, the teams didn't want the
coaches go. Knowing the way this works, if Jason kids like,
I don't want to coach the Mavericks, I want to
coach the Knicks, the Mavericks will say, Okay, we don't
want to coach that doesn't want to be here, so
we'll work something out with the Knicks. It's on the coach.
If the coach does not want the job, that's fine.
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But if the coach one of these guys, the five
Emai Udoka, I don't know why he'd want the job,
but he's in Houston. They got a young team that's
on the comm as. They in gambling, and so he's like, hey,
maybe I want to go to New York. I got
you know, some actress I want to hook up with there. Whatever.
I don't know. So he said, okay, well the Rockets
will work out of trade. But he didn't want to
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do that.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
So here we are.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Here we are No. No, interest in the franchise has
been a factory of dysfunction for decades. And the Knicks
walk around like they've got all this machiesem and they've
got all this pull and yet they just bathe in
dirty water.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Those dirty water dogs, that's what they bathed.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Meanwhile, the team's rejecting them, and the next thing, they
must show up to these meetings with like a dunce
cap on. At this point, right, he just laughed at
laughed out of the room.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Every single time.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Not one of these coaches wanted the number one media
market in America. They all said I'm good. Embarrassing, capitally
capitally embarrassing. And see James Dolan being rejected more than
a college applicant fresh out of college who sent their
(24:10):
their resume around. They're applied for jobs and they misspelled
their own name on the application. Right, He's like, well,
that's that person's probably not a person to hire. And
now now they're searching at the discount rack. They can
hire some cheap upstart assistant coach you've never heard of.
And the Knicks, if you're a championship contender, you don't
(24:31):
normally hire a starter coach. And the available coaches. You
have to go now to unemployed coaches. Michael Malone of
the Nuggets, late of the Nuggets, Taylor Jenkins, he's out there.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Frank Vogel, who's coached a bunch of teams.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
He's a vagabond coach. And so the knickser is like, well,
we got to fake it till we make it. At
this point, now, speaking of the Knicks and former Nick coaches,
page number two here, as we move on, former Nick
coach Tom Tibbet taking a full page ad out in
the New York Times the Old Gray Lady to thank
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the fans. So, how does that one hit you? TIBs
taking out a full page ad? How does that one
hit you? So it hits me like a bonfire, a
full page ad. And then I was like, well, maybe
maybe I'm in like some kind of parallel dimension and
I'm going back in time. I said, is it really
twenty twenty five?
Speaker 5 (25:26):
No?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
No, I can't be.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Twenty twenty five, Like, no, no, it's nineteen ninety seven.
You wake up, you grab your cup of coffee, you
flip through the newspaper. It's got to be the year
nineteen ninety seven. It can't be twenty twenty five, and
then I was like, well, no, it's twenty twenty five.
You talk about having a beachside bonfire with Chris banknotes.
If you're Tom Thibodeau, let's do some malor math on this.
(25:47):
So full page ad New York Times at least one
hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I don't think I'm wrong
on that, at least one hundred fifty thousand dollars, probably more,
probably more. I'm probably I'm I'm probably going low. And
for what a one page ad with a photo to
say thank you a update. Hey, Tommy, coach Tibbs, you
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could have just sent that out on social media and
saved yourself one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I know
you're rich and James Dolan's gonna pay you a bunch
of money out may you Still you could have recorded
a thirty second video and posted it on Instagram. It's
been great, Thanks, it's been fun, But I gotta run.
But no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
TIBs had that old school Now I'm a dinosaur.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I'm an old head, as the kid say, and he
wanted to make sure every one of those woke retirees
in New York and across the country that read the
New York Times. They saw his heart felt farewell right
while reading what the stock market? And then they read
the obits see who died? Good luck, good luck on that.
But yeah, I get the classy move coach Tibbs way
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to go. And that's one of those things that should
be completely gone, but is not. The full page newspaper
ad when a star player gets traded or a coach
loses his job, and for some odd reason it continues.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
It's very bizarre. It's very bizarre.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
But if you're actually honest, complete waste of money, complete
waste of money, should have spent that money on overnight
talk radio advertising.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
That would have been a better use of that money.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
All right, now, final point, So Adam Silver, the Lizard
person commissioner of the NBA.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
My opinion, So Adam Silver Royalty.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
He did an interview this week, He did a bunch
of interviews, but he said that that ESPN has always
been more hardcore basketball than TNT. Now the implication that
that is a positive thing. Like the way that I
interpreted what Silver said was that, hey, that's a good thing.
They're hardcore basketball. And TNT is no longer going to
(28:02):
be in business with the NBA, but they were more
a bunch of goofs. Do you agree or disagree with
the premise of Adam Silver that it's actually a good
thing to be more hardcore basketball as opposed to the
coverage that TNT provided. So my thought on this, I
wrote down one word here and I wrote down the word.
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It starts with an M capitol M malarkey. This is malarkey.
ESPN's coverage blows. I can't watch the Finals with the
audio up ninety percent of the time because of Doris Burke.
She's unlistenable. I can't watch the halftime because it's terrible.
TNT wiped the floor with ESPN when it comes to
basketball coverage. And the reason why is the very thing
(28:47):
that Adam Silver referenced as a positive for them at
ESPN as opposed to TNT. And the issue is this,
I'll tell you why. There's a supply chain shortage of
hardcore basketball fans.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
And Adam Silver is learning.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That as the NBA Finals go on and fewer and
fewer and fewer people are watching every one of these games,
he's learning that the hardcore basketball fan might exist in
corners of social media. Yeah, with all due respect, I
think some of that's just bots and a lot of
fake accounts. There are some people I've talked to them
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who are hard oh basketball people, and they love the
nerd stats and all that. The issue, though, is that
the flotsam and jetsam do not want to be lectured
on x's and o's. It is, after all, when everything
is said and done, a TV show and it's supposed
to be entertaining, and TNT always nailed that, and they're done.
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That's it. Charles Barkley, he'll suppose to do stuff at ESPN,
will see how that goes.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
But Barkley is the ring master of the circus of fund.
He just is.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
He's the ring master, personable, silly, charming, debonair, goofy, he's
the life of the party, all those things, all those things.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
The NBA product on court often sucks. It just does.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
It's the stuff on the periphery that is more interesting
than the actual product on the court. And you can
say that's not right, that's wrong, bah blah blah blah blah.
That's the real world. Okay, that's not the let's sugarcoat
it That's the way it is. The peripheral stuff is
more interesting, the off court drama, the front court speculation,
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the trade rumors, the debates yapp a about legacies and
all that.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
What generations the greatest fans.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Are not tuning in because they care about hardcore basketball.
And if Adam Silver, I think he's lying when he
says it, I don't think he deep down he knows.
That's the case. They're turning in for a sporty soap
opera that is packaged as basketball. They're not tuning in
to hear Doris Burke break down the x's and is
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in an NBA game. They don't want to hear about that.
They'd like to hear Charles Barkley bust balls. That's what
they would like to hear. That's why they would like
to tune in period, hard stop.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
That's the way that it is.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
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Speaker 4 (31:17):
Nineteen four It's Mallard. How about that?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
To the third degree, this is one big event gets grilled.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
We'll get to the third degree right now on the Koplug.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
All right, Kirk Cousins seems to be coming to terms
with the fact that he has no longer started in
the league, telling reporters on Tuesday, I'm not going to
dwell on things that aren't reality in terms of that's
not the situation I'm in. Ben With a trade no
longer seeming like a possibility, do you think a Michael
Pennis junior injury is the only way Cousins starts again, No.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Because what's going to have He's playing good cop publicly.
He's like these politicians. They'll tell you whatever you want
to hear to get your vote, and then they'll do
whatever they really want to do whoever pays them off
once they get to office.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
So Cousins is just gonna.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Sit back and wait, and he's gonna wait for someone
to go snapcrackle, pop and get hurt and then he's
going to be traded. No reason to complain about it
right now. He'll start for somebody, but he's gonna have
to wait for an injury next.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
It's basically a yearly tradition at this point. But Trey
Young's name is coming up in trade talk to yet again,
this time with the Sacramento Kings. Then do you think
the Hawks actually pull the trigger this time around.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Well, listen, Trey Young going from Atlanta to Sacramento. That
he'll be in a worse situation, all right, So why
would you want to put that voodoo on Trey Young?
The Kings have no idea what they're doing. They have
a nice light show outside the arena. That's about it.
Like the team blows. Tyree's had two point guards. They
got head of both of them, Tyrese Haliburton and de
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Aaron Fox.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Next, it seems reports of Juan Soto's demise were premature.
Over the last ten games, Sotos looked like his old
self and the Mets are thriving. Ben are the Mets
the most dangerous team in the majors?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Well, the Dodgers are in a class by themselves, and
the Mets are good. And Soto is finally playing like
we thought he was going to play at today. Yes,
the answer is yes today. Tomorrow it might be a
different answer. How did we do he passes an edition
there it is. That's a win.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
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Speaker 6 (34:03):
All right, Ben, We're gonna start with let's go with
the question from blind Emmett, who changed his displaying to him.
I know, what's his new name. He's got his full
name on there for some reason. Really, yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
He's very formal.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
He's a five year veteran of the podcast Ward.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
He wants to know, what is the dumbest thing You've
ever spent money on?
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Well, I mean, now, I usually am pretty these days.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I don't spend my money on much. I only save it.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
I guess, so when I die someone.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Will get a lot of money. I mean, it was
the dumbest thing. Well, I did buy a house. I
don't own it the government. I pay taxes and all
that said, but I put a big payment down on
a house at the advice of my real estate advisor
Tom Looney right before the housing market crashed seventeen years ago.
Terrible investment, horrific investment. So that would be the wor
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thing financially, the worst thing. But I mean I bought
other dumb stuff, but not recently. What about you, Lorena.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
A carry on bag that could have fit underneath the
seat in front of me? Like, just such a waste
of money.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
You bought a carry on that was not able to
fit on the plane?
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Wow?
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Okay, I think she paid for carry on and it
and it could have it could have fit under the
seat as.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
A personal Oh you check it in?
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Okay? Oh yeah, yeah, Well isn't isn't the hack?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Usually you don't check your bag in and then they
say does anyone want to check their bag in? And
then you that's it ready to gate. You do it
at the gate. You save money that way.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
No, yeah, no, that's the way to do it.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
But yeah, cool.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Uh you know it's probably uh NFL direct TV and
NFL Sunday ticket for the However, many like fifteen years
that I did that, yeah, God, thousands of dollars to
direct TV and.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Watch to watch the Broncos lose games.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
I guess yeah. And by the way, YouTube TV raise
their prices for Sunday ticket this year. It's now like
five hundred and twenty dollars for Sunday ticket with red zone.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
You're a high You're a big spender.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
I don't know if I'm gonna do it this year.
That's just that's just a little bit too far from me.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
You're gonna do it. You'll see some stories about the
Broncos being good this year.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
You'll do it.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
I'm gonna try to figure out some some loophole.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Okay, all right, talk to Eddie he might know away.
All right, what is next year's ask? Ben? Your questions
are a damn it the rest of the hour. Damn
it is not a question.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
I wish I had seen it. I wish i'd seen
this before I read that, because I just saw another,
a better question from from blind Emmett.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
But well, we'll give this people give people question in
I mean, we can't just have blind Emitt Bogart the show.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
All right, let's do a question here from a donkey sausage.
I'd he wants to know, have you ever been I'm
assuming this is just for you, but have you ever
been too scared to head home after a show?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Oh, because of the craziness in the world. Uh no, No,
I do get Sometimes I take the one oh one
freeway here in LA through downtown. I often am worried
that some lunatic protesters will jump on the freeway, and
I'm like, what will I do? You know, because that.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Does worry me.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
But other than that, I know, I'm not I don't
really live my life like that. You know, if something happens,
that happens. But uh, that's not the only thing like that?
Is that only for me? Next? All right? Uh?
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Josh the Bears fan, he's in Nebraska.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Yeah, but he would like to know would you rather
go on a cruise or a bus tour?
Speaker 1 (37:56):
So I've never been on a cruise. I have some
people in my circle that love cruises. They say it's amazing,
it's all inclusive, you can eat whatever you want. Other
people say it's terrible. It's you know, it's it's old people,
and it's people that you don't want to hang out with.
So I've never done that. And the idea of being
on a bus where it's a bunch of other people
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on the bus that have body how about none be above.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
If I had to choose, I guess i'd.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Go bus because I've never done the cruise thing, so
I've heard mixed reviews. What about you, Lorena, Oh.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
I love both them.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Cruises are great because you know, you got the all
inclusive food and you can just sit by the.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Pool all day.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
But the bus tour is nice because you can actually
walk around and get off and look at different things
around the cities.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
And I love that.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, okay, and well they say those they do the
My friend Jerry's a big boat guy and they go
to different cities and you go, yeah, you can.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
You can get off the cruise ship too. I love cruises.
I think they're awesome.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
If you're all about the cruise.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
Yeah, I mean, you don't mean. It might be a
bunch of old but you don't have to interact with them.
You go with the people that you want to spend
time with, and then.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Hate old people.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I just I just.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah, all right, what's next?
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Where are we have to ask? Ben?
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Your questions are answered?
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Now?
Speaker 6 (39:15):
The King Rory would like to know what is more
annoying burning your tongue while eating or biting yourself while eating.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Well, I've done both.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
I did a week of radio. I had a lisp.
I sounded like this old Notre Dame coach Lou Holtz.
I ate pizza. It was hot, and I ate it
too fast, and I burned my tongue. I also bit
my tongue. I am such a klutz and the result
is you sound terrible. So I'd say the burn is
worse than the bite. I'll go burn Lorena.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
Oh, it's got to be the bite for me. When
I get the inside of my lip or the cheek.
Oh my gosh, then you get it again because it's swollen.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, just wait till you burn your tongue. What about you.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
The burn is so much worse because then you can't
taste things for a while.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Oh it's horror, and it's just it's you. Oh you
have to you can't get it rid of. The tongue
is involved in everything you need. I mean that sounded bad,
but it is. I mean, it's a central part of
what you do, talking, eating other things.
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me so our lead. This hour is from the Hoosier
State That was the stage for Game three of the
NBA Finals. Once a generation the Pacers play in the finals,
and I was there the last time many years ago
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they played in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
But they were back home. Game there.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Jay yogis Alexander leading the Thunder into Indianapolis for a
battle with Tyrese Halliburton and the Pacers. Where are you watching?
Of course you were not watching based on the ratings crickets,
but don't worry. We watched so you would not have
to the life of a mensch. Are good mitzvah of
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the day, And it was a secondary actor that took over.
Benedict Mathern twenty seven points off the bench. The Dagger
twenty seven points off the bench, played well in the
fourth quarter. Tyrese Halliburton had twenty two and eleven nine
rebounds and a partridge in a paar tree and the
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upstart Pacers, who were given less than a ten percent
chance of winning this series. Well, right now, they're in
good shape as they retook the lead in the NBA
Finals slithering pass the thunder by nine in Game three
on Wednesday night. As now Indiana two wins away from
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having a parade, two wins away from a championship, and
one of the great players on this show, a man
that has been immortalized by our friend Marcel and Brooklyn
Pascal Siakam got to make sure I say that right.
Twenty one points for Indiana. So the Pacers who lost
Game two and a route or root a non competitive
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Game two, and then had about seven weeks off, they
come back, they will get to win. So they improve
now to ten and oh ten and oh since mid
March in the game following a loss. So if they
just do that, if they just win every other game
since they won Game one using malor math, they are
going to be crowned the champions of the NBA. Now,
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Game four, shockingly will be played on Friday night. I
hope the players can deal with that having only one
day off between the games. With The better story is
where have I trained you like Pavlov's dogs? Yes, the
losing locker room. So let us discuss the question who
wears the shame bell? For SGA's OKC team that.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Did have a small lead, a small lead.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Going to the fourth quarter, and they blew it a
five point lead going to the fourth quarter, and they
were outplayed by a wide margin by Indiana in Game
three of the finals. So who wears the shame bell?
I've got house keys, booster, and lecture, and we will
combine all of these things together and we are going
(04:41):
to make cotton candy because that's what I saw from
Oklahoma City in the fourth quarter. They played like cotton candy.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
In terms of the shame bell.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
And there's one thing we love in overnight sports radio
is pointing the finger and giving the shame bell. The
head of the snake is the problem here.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Where have you gone?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
SGA? A thunder nation, whatever that means, turns his lonely
eyes to you, as Shay it was right there. We'd
like to say on this show, when you play bad
in a big game in a key moment, you've written
the vomit comet and there he was. He disappeared. It's
kind of like when you're when you're looking to leave
the house and you forgot where you put the keys,
and you're kind of digging around the junk drawer and
(05:24):
you can't find the house keys that you know they're
in the drunk the drunk drawer, the junk drawer, and
you can't find them. Right, You're like, what's going on?
How bad was he? All right, I'll answer the question.
So okase mentioned they had they had a small lead,
a bite sized lead going to the fourth quarter. Now
we know that that's not that big an advanced five points.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
However, you are the MVP.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
You have been compared in columns, online posts, glowing reports
from fun boys. You have been compared to Michael George
and Kobe Bryant. Yes, I know it's ridiculous, but you
have it. Yeah, this good player, but it seems a
little much. So anyway, what did SGA do to add
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another chapter to his book of legends?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Don't ask.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
He grabbed a pillow and a blankie and he took
a nap.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Shay's fingerprints were all over this one.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
He had a very ugly stat line as Shae Jogis
Alexander three points, one rebound and had as many assists
as you and I had none and one turnover in
the fourth quarter. He was not the player that he
had been getting the calls, getting the separation, the everything
was a little off, and that became problematic as Indiana
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was able to take advantage there in the Pacers get
her done. And let's hear from the man of the
hour SGA here pointing out that, hey, the other guys
over there, they were scratching and clawing a bit.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Take a listen.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Yeah, they were aggressive, they were hiring the pick and rolls.
They really were just like Courts said, more aggressive, more forceful.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Yeah, we gotta starts with me, but we gotta apply
that pressure back.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, you're you're the MVP, a three hundred million dollar guy,
you're all that.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Come on, you gotta get it done.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
All right? Well, what about game number four? That's the
next game here? Do you have any thoughts on that
you'd like to share with the class.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
It felt like they won all the fifty to fifty plays.
They executed on both of the both ends.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Of the ball.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
You're still going when you give those two things up,
and no matter what quarter, you're probably gonna lose the quarter,
especially and then it goes back to especially on the
road in the hostile environment and their crowds behind them.
So yeah, we got to take care of those things.
If you want to come out a game forward a.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Dub okay with the dub All right, very nice, all right,
So here we go again. He sucked at a time
you cannot suck, and you can't do that in the
finals and all that stuff. This is a legacy situation
and he was a bird without wings, unable to take
off there in the fourth quarter. But in general, Oklahoma City,
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as was mentioned here, it was just out hustled. You
don't have to be an NBA coach or some kind
of high falutin insider to know. You just have to
be able to know ball.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
We know ball.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Do we not know ball? Come on, we know ball.
We are experts at ball. So in general, Oklahoma City
was just bad all the way around. Late in the game,
but thanks to Indiana backup. As we mentioned the star
of the show Benedict Mathern. The math was math in
there twenty seven points. The Thunder outscored by thirty one points.
(08:46):
I believe if my math is correct, it was twenty one.
It was a lot.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
It was a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I think it was thirty one. Anyway, it was like
a lot of bench points, most of it from Mathron.
A huge advantage there in the bench point, it was
forty nine to eighteen. Now page two, So let's go
to the winning locker room, which is not as good
as story, but we'll go there anyway. So you have
a two to one lead in the NBA Finals. You've
got home court advantage. If you just win the home games,
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you're going to win the championship. So dude, Tyrese Haliburton
and the Indiana Pacers have a stranglehold on the NBA Finals.
So if you look at the comps on this, they
are a hitter batting eight hundred at this point. The
comps say, the analytics say, you are an eight hundred hitter.
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You're not Tony Gwyn, You're not Ty Cobb. You're an
eight hundred hitter. That's Beer League Softball history says the
Pacers are in control. In the forty one previous NBA
Finals that were tied at a game apiece, the team
that won Game three got to get that shiny hunk
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of metal thirty three times. That's an eighty percent winning
clip eighty point five percent. So clear advantage to the Pacers.
But as we often point out, what do we say
here the disclaimer? As the great Dick Stockton, legendary sportscaster
taught me, He said, ben stats tell you what has happened,
not what's going to happen. This is clearly a booster
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shot for Indiana, and unlike some of those booster shots
we had to take a few years ago, these actually work.
So can Benedict Mathern bottle this up and do it again?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Does he even have to do that again?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
It is a game Indiana won with Tyrese Haliburton, who
is known as the closer, and he was not the
closer in terms of big shots fourth quarter. He was
one of four down the stretch in the fourth quarter
and had just three points.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
So this is an.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Exhale situation for Indiana and they're in good, good shape.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
But are they really?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I mean, you can't lose it home, So it's like
you gotta win these home games. If you just merely
win the home games, you don't have to win another
game in Oklahoma City, you don't have to worry about
that where SGA seems to get every call now, last word,
So there's a lot of people in the NBA that
are freaking out. They're running around trying to put out
fires here because no one's watching the finals in comparison
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to years gone by, it's just a bad product. People
aren't into it, and the people have spoken, and so
everyone's trying to come up with rationale. Adam Silver has
pulled seven muscles trying to manipulate the numbers. We Lebron
James has entered the chat. Of course, Lebron, you know
(11:38):
who he's blaming for the lack of an audience for
the NBA Finals.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Did you see this?
Speaker 5 (11:44):
No?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
All right, Lebron James is blaming the media.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It's the media's fault, the lack of emotion, the lack
of interest by Joe Schmoe, Joe sixpack doesn't care. The
Hoy PELOI is not watching the NBA Finals.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Lebron says that the media is not telling enough stories
and they're not doing their homework. He says they're failing
the fans. Is he right? All right? So let me
begin with this. This is a the word I will
use is ridiculous. Capital r capital are ridiculous. The basketball
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media are a bunch of lightweights. They are not the problem. Okay,
they are not the problem. The Thunder and Pacers. The
Thunder in particular a great team right regular season, great
team and all that they tried to win the regular season.
The Pacers ever since, like January, played very well. The
issue is they don't have star power. And that's the
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secret ingredient, which is not so secret that people search
out the casuals.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
That's what they look for.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And usually you have at least one headliner in the
NBA finals, whether it's Steph Curry or Lebron who people
love to hate. So you don't have that. You don't
have curR, you don't have Lebron, you don't have an audience.
And the media, the evil media. I have read a
number of glowing think pieces, stories about the magic of
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Shay Jogis Alexander and the mythical superpowers of Tyresse Halliburton. Unfortunately,
those guys don't make the public tingles. Not my opinion,
it's a fact. Okay, sorry, not sorry. It's nice of
media expert Lebron James to lecture the rank and file
(13:35):
on storytelling. This is classic Lebron. Is This not perfect
for Lebron. He's always got to control the narrative and
make everything about him. Now, I have done a TV
show the last couple of years with a guy who
does that too, makes everything about him, and I hate
people like that. What are the basketball media types supposed
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to do if the public doesn't are they gonna force
them to care? Where are they gonna make a cooking
documentary with Pascal Siakam cooking his favorite dish, pasta prima era, Like?
What are they gonna a deep dive on Tyreese Halliburn.
I don't know if he collects Pokemon cards or not,
but it looks like he might be the guy that
collects Pokemon cards.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I'm not judging.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I'm just saying there's no amount of storytelling, none that
can replace star power, and that is the real issue.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
You're starting out.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
It's like starting a race and you're behind by a
couple of lengths at the race because the market size
is a huge advantage. You have bigger market, there's more people.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Not everyone in every big city cares about sports. There's
a lot of weirdos that aren't like us, that don't
like sports. They don't have the sports gene so they
don't understand. But there's enough if you're in the big city,
the big metropolis is where you have enough people that
do care and are passionate, and then the other people,
some of them a percentage of those people, well we
better watch because everyone else is watching. So it becomes
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a communal thing. And even if that same effect happens
in a place like Oklahoma City or Indianapolis, the size
thing is the issue. That's the that's the rubs, as
they say, whoever they are.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
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Speaker 1 (15:27):
If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
But what if you don't want to work there?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
What happens?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Then?
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So Big Apple blues, Big Apple Blues the headline Big
Apple Blues on this one, and our lead from from Gotham.
As the Pacers and Thunder play a Barnberger in the
NBA Finals and Indiana winning that game. Thanks getting wacky
for the team that the Pacers beat in the Eastern
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Conference Finals. Now, if you have not heard, perhaps not,
the New York Knicks have now been denied permission to
speak with Chicago Bulls head coach Billy Donovan about the
head coaching job in Gotham. And if that sounds familiar
it should we have learned now the Knickerbockers have been
rejected by everyone.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
By everyone.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
In fact, the coaches include Jason Kidd, Chris Finch, Quinn
Snyder in Atlanta, Billy Donovan, as we mentioned, emy Udoka,
They've all said we want no part in that. In fact,
I even rejected the Knicks. They contacted me. They said, no,
my brother lives there. I don't want to live there.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
So let us discuss the question, what have we learned
about the New York Knicks with this episode playing out
the last forty eight hours, that they have been turned
down by everyone since they made the coaching change.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
What have we learned about the Knicks?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
So I've got fun zone, bonfire and supply chain shortage,
and we will combine all of these things together and
we are going to make some thin cut pastrami, which
is really the perfect way to eat pastrami, that thin cut,
nice sandwich.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
A couple slices of bread.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
There, all right, So numb Burrow, I said, numb Burrow. Yeah,
what we have learned about the Knicks since the coaching
change that the move to fire Tom Thibodeau was a
knee jerk reaction as we anticipated it was at the
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time by James Dolan. This was owner rage, embarrassed by
losing to the upstart Pacers. So he's get the cooling
off period, the Knickerbocker owner and sent Tom Thibodeau to
the coaching electric chair and said, begon, Tims, begon. Now
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this was not supposed to happen. This was not part
of that. How do we know that? In the big
industrial complex of professional sports, the way it works is
and it also works like this in radio. When you
get rid of someone, you already have the replacement ready
to go. It's all semantics. You already have the person
to replace the coach ready to go. It never works
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this way. It's not supposed to work this way. And
now James Dolan, the owner of the New York Knickerbockers,
finds himself in a fund zone called the Puzzling World.
Now this amusement park, come one, come all fun for
all ages. Only one ride. Though the ride is amazed.
(19:55):
You're stuck in a maze. There is no exit, just
to some twists and turns and a whole lot of confusion.
That is the Puzzling World, the fund zone of the
New York Knickerbockers. How many coaching rejections does it take
for the Knicks franchise to get the message that they
are painfully out of touch and it's not a great
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job and people don't want to go there because if
you are keeping score at home or at work, or
wherever you might be, they have now been told no
by Jason Kidd of the Mavericks, Chris Finch in Minnesota,
Quinn Snyder in Atlanta, Billy Donovan in Chicago, and e
May Udoka in Houston. That is the big five, a
(20:37):
five pack of denials, a five piece nugget, five doors
slam shut, thanks but no thanks. Now, I did some
Mallard back of the napkin math. I believe I'm right
on this. So let's do it out. We'll do the algebra,
we'll play it out right now. So if you take
away the Suns, the Grizzlies, and the Nuggets, who all
just hired coaches, so why would they let their coach leave?
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The Sons, the Grizzlies, and Nuggets just hired their coaches,
you'd also take away the Pacers and Thunder because their
coaches are in the NBA Finals. You then of course
take the Knicks off because they're the team looking for
the coach.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
So there's thirty teams originally in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
So I just eliminated by my math there, I eliminated
the Sons, the Grizzlies, and the Nuggets. That's three, the
Pacers in Thunder that's five, and then I also eliminated
the Knicks, so that's six. So there's twenty four other
teams available, and the math is like twenty percent. Twenty
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percent of the available coaches have rejected rejected the Knickerbockers,
and so the Knicks. It's like an old school telemarketing thing.
The Knickerbockers are now so clueless they are cold calling coaches.
It's like, hello, Jason Kidd. Yeah, hey Jay, Jason, Yeah,
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this is James Dolan, owner of the New York Knicks.
How you doing today? Okay, good? How's the family?
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Hey, if I could show you a way to coach
the Knickerbockers at the Mecca, would you be interested in
learning more about the Knicks coaching job?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Click? Yeah, that's what it's like.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
The Knicks fancy themselves as a world class destination, right.
Premiere franchise big city, r most famous arena, world's most
famous arena. However, five of the successful coaches, some of
them are even not that successful, have said no, and
make no mistake, Well, the teams have denied it, and
(22:32):
the Knicks will say, well, the teams didn't want the
coaches go. Knowing the way this works, if Jason kids like,
I don't want to coach the Mavericks, I want to
coach the Knicks, the Mavericks will say, Okay, we don't
want to coach that doesn't want to be here, so
we'll work something out with the Knicks. It's on the coach.
If the coach does not want the job, that's fine.
(22:53):
But if the coach one of these guys, the five
Emai Udoka, I don't know why he'd want the job,
but he's in Houston. They got a young team that's
on the comm as. They in gambling, and so he's like, hey,
maybe I want to go to New York. I got
you know, some actress I want to hook up with there. Whatever.
I don't know. So he said, okay, well the Rockets
will work out of trade. But he didn't want to
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do that.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
So here we are.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Here we are No. No, interest in the franchise has
been a factory of dysfunction for decades. And the Knicks
walk around like they've got all this machiesem and they've
got all this pull and yet they just bathe in
dirty water.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Those dirty water dogs, that's what they bathed.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Meanwhile, the team's rejecting them, and the next thing, they
must show up to these meetings with like a dunce
cap on. At this point, right, he just laughed at
laughed out of the room.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Every single time.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Not one of these coaches wanted the number one media
market in America. They all said I'm good. Embarrassing, capitally
capitally embarrassing. And see James Dolan being rejected more than
a college applicant fresh out of college who sent their
(24:10):
their resume around. They're applied for jobs and they misspelled
their own name on the application. Right, He's like, well,
that's that person's probably not a person to hire. And
now now they're searching at the discount rack. They can
hire some cheap upstart assistant coach you've never heard of.
And the Knicks, if you're a championship contender, you don't
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normally hire a starter coach. And the available coaches. You
have to go now to unemployed coaches. Michael Malone of
the Nuggets, late of the Nuggets, Taylor Jenkins, he's out there.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Frank Vogel, who's coached a bunch of teams.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
He's a vagabond coach. And so the knickser is like, well,
we got to fake it till we make it. At
this point, now, speaking of the Knicks and former Nick coaches,
page number two here, as we move on, former Nick
coach Tom Tibbet taking a full page ad out in
the New York Times the Old Gray Lady to thank
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the fans. So, how does that one hit you? TIBs
taking out a full page ad? How does that one
hit you? So it hits me like a bonfire, a
full page ad. And then I was like, well, maybe
maybe I'm in like some kind of parallel dimension and
I'm going back in time. I said, is it really
twenty twenty five?
Speaker 5 (25:26):
No?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
No, I can't be.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Twenty twenty five, Like, no, no, it's nineteen ninety seven.
You wake up, you grab your cup of coffee, you
flip through the newspaper. It's got to be the year
nineteen ninety seven. It can't be twenty twenty five, and
then I was like, well, no, it's twenty twenty five.
You talk about having a beachside bonfire with Chris banknotes.
If you're Tom Thibodeau, let's do some malor math on this.
(25:47):
So full page ad New York Times at least one
hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I don't think I'm wrong
on that, at least one hundred fifty thousand dollars, probably more,
probably more. I'm probably I'm I'm probably going low. And
for what a one page ad with a photo to
say thank you a update. Hey, Tommy, coach Tibbs, you
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could have just sent that out on social media and
saved yourself one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I know
you're rich and James Dolan's gonna pay you a bunch
of money out may you Still you could have recorded
a thirty second video and posted it on Instagram. It's
been great, Thanks, it's been fun, But I gotta run.
But no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
TIBs had that old school Now I'm a dinosaur.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I'm an old head, as the kid say, and he
wanted to make sure every one of those woke retirees
in New York and across the country that read the
New York Times. They saw his heart felt farewell right
while reading what the stock market? And then they read
the obits see who died? Good luck, good luck on that.
But yeah, I get the classy move coach Tibbs way
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to go. And that's one of those things that should
be completely gone, but is not. The full page newspaper
ad when a star player gets traded or a coach
loses his job, and for some odd reason it continues.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
It's very bizarre. It's very bizarre.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
But if you're actually honest, complete waste of money, complete
waste of money, should have spent that money on overnight
talk radio advertising.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
That would have been a better use of that money.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
All right, now, final point, So Adam Silver, the Lizard
person commissioner of the NBA.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
My opinion, So Adam Silver Royalty.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
He did an interview this week, He did a bunch
of interviews, but he said that that ESPN has always
been more hardcore basketball than TNT. Now the implication that
that is a positive thing. Like the way that I
interpreted what Silver said was that, hey, that's a good thing.
They're hardcore basketball. And TNT is no longer going to
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be in business with the NBA, but they were more
a bunch of goofs. Do you agree or disagree with
the premise of Adam Silver that it's actually a good
thing to be more hardcore basketball as opposed to the
coverage that TNT provided. So my thought on this, I
wrote down one word here and I wrote down the word.
(28:23):
It starts with an M capitol M malarkey. This is malarkey.
ESPN's coverage blows. I can't watch the Finals with the
audio up ninety percent of the time because of Doris Burke.
She's unlistenable. I can't watch the halftime because it's terrible.
TNT wiped the floor with ESPN when it comes to
basketball coverage. And the reason why is the very thing
(28:47):
that Adam Silver referenced as a positive for them at
ESPN as opposed to TNT. And the issue is this,
I'll tell you why. There's a supply chain shortage of
hardcore basketball fans.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
And Adam Silver is learning.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That as the NBA Finals go on and fewer and
fewer and fewer people are watching every one of these games,
he's learning that the hardcore basketball fan might exist in
corners of social media. Yeah, with all due respect, I
think some of that's just bots and a lot of
fake accounts. There are some people I've talked to them
(29:28):
who are hard oh basketball people, and they love the
nerd stats and all that. The issue, though, is that
the flotsam and jetsam do not want to be lectured
on x's and o's. It is, after all, when everything
is said and done, a TV show and it's supposed
to be entertaining, and TNT always nailed that, and they're done.
(29:50):
That's it. Charles Barkley, he'll suppose to do stuff at ESPN,
will see how that goes.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
But Barkley is the ring master of the circus of fund.
He just is.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
He's the ring master, personable, silly, charming, debonair, goofy, he's
the life of the party, all those things, all those things.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
The NBA product on court often sucks. It just does.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
It's the stuff on the periphery that is more interesting
than the actual product on the court. And you can
say that's not right, that's wrong, bah blah blah blah blah.
That's the real world. Okay, that's not the let's sugarcoat
it That's the way it is. The peripheral stuff is
more interesting, the off court drama, the front court speculation,
(30:33):
the trade rumors, the debates yapp a about legacies and
all that.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
What generations the greatest fans.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Are not tuning in because they care about hardcore basketball.
And if Adam Silver, I think he's lying when he
says it, I don't think he deep down he knows.
That's the case. They're turning in for a sporty soap
opera that is packaged as basketball. They're not tuning in
to hear Doris Burke break down the x's and is
(31:00):
in an NBA game. They don't want to hear about that.
They'd like to hear Charles Barkley bust balls. That's what
they would like to hear. That's why they would like
to tune in period, hard stop.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
That's the way that it is.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
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Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Nineteen four It's Mallard. How about that?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
To the third degree, this is one big event gets grilled.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
We'll get to the third degree right now on the Koplug.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
All right, Kirk Cousins seems to be coming to terms
with the fact that he has no longer started in
the league, telling reporters on Tuesday, I'm not going to
dwell on things that aren't reality in terms of that's
not the situation I'm in. Ben With a trade no
longer seeming like a possibility, do you think a Michael
Pennis junior injury is the only way Cousins starts again, No.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Because what's going to have He's playing good cop publicly.
He's like these politicians. They'll tell you whatever you want
to hear to get your vote, and then they'll do
whatever they really want to do whoever pays them off
once they get to office.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
So Cousins is just gonna.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Sit back and wait, and he's gonna wait for someone
to go snapcrackle, pop and get hurt and then he's
going to be traded. No reason to complain about it
right now. He'll start for somebody, but he's gonna have
to wait for an injury next.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
It's basically a yearly tradition at this point. But Trey
Young's name is coming up in trade talk to yet again,
this time with the Sacramento Kings. Then do you think
the Hawks actually pull the trigger this time around.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Well, listen, Trey Young going from Atlanta to Sacramento. That
he'll be in a worse situation, all right, So why
would you want to put that voodoo on Trey Young?
The Kings have no idea what they're doing. They have
a nice light show outside the arena. That's about it.
Like the team blows. Tyree's had two point guards. They
got head of both of them, Tyrese Haliburton and de
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Aaron Fox.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Next, it seems reports of Juan Soto's demise were premature.
Over the last ten games, Sotos looked like his old
self and the Mets are thriving. Ben are the Mets
the most dangerous team in the majors?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Well, the Dodgers are in a class by themselves, and
the Mets are good. And Soto is finally playing like
we thought he was going to play at today. Yes,
the answer is yes today. Tomorrow it might be a
different answer. How did we do he passes an edition
there it is. That's a win.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
I like the phones.
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It's asked Ben.
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The rest of the hour, you can add your question
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Speaker 6 (34:03):
All right, Ben, We're gonna start with let's go with
the question from blind Emmett, who changed his displaying to him.
I know, what's his new name. He's got his full
name on there for some reason. Really, yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
He's very formal.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
He's a five year veteran of the podcast Ward.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
He wants to know, what is the dumbest thing You've
ever spent money on?
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Well, I mean, now, I usually am pretty these days.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I don't spend my money on much. I only save it.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
I guess, so when I die someone.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Will get a lot of money. I mean, it was
the dumbest thing. Well, I did buy a house. I
don't own it the government. I pay taxes and all
that said, but I put a big payment down on
a house at the advice of my real estate advisor
Tom Looney right before the housing market crashed seventeen years ago.
Terrible investment, horrific investment. So that would be the wor
(35:00):
thing financially, the worst thing. But I mean I bought
other dumb stuff, but not recently. What about you, Lorena.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
A carry on bag that could have fit underneath the
seat in front of me? Like, just such a waste
of money.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
You bought a carry on that was not able to
fit on the plane?
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Wow?
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Okay, I think she paid for carry on and it
and it could have it could have fit under the
seat as.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
A personal Oh you check it in?
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Okay? Oh yeah, yeah, Well isn't isn't the hack?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Usually you don't check your bag in and then they
say does anyone want to check their bag in? And
then you that's it ready to gate. You do it
at the gate. You save money that way.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
No, yeah, no, that's the way to do it.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
But yeah, cool.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Uh you know it's probably uh NFL direct TV and
NFL Sunday ticket for the However, many like fifteen years
that I did that, yeah, God, thousands of dollars to
direct TV and.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Watch to watch the Broncos lose games.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
I guess yeah. And by the way, YouTube TV raise
their prices for Sunday ticket this year. It's now like
five hundred and twenty dollars for Sunday ticket with red zone.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
You're a high You're a big spender.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
I don't know if I'm gonna do it this year.
That's just that's just a little bit too far from me.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
You're gonna do it. You'll see some stories about the
Broncos being good this year.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
You'll do it.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
I'm gonna try to figure out some some loophole.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Okay, all right, talk to Eddie he might know away.
All right, what is next year's ask? Ben? Your questions
are a damn it the rest of the hour. Damn
it is not a question.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
I wish I had seen it. I wish i'd seen
this before I read that, because I just saw another,
a better question from from blind Emmett.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
But well, we'll give this people give people question in
I mean, we can't just have blind Emitt Bogart the show.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
All right, let's do a question here from a donkey sausage.
I'd he wants to know, have you ever been I'm
assuming this is just for you, but have you ever
been too scared to head home after a show?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Oh, because of the craziness in the world. Uh no, No,
I do get Sometimes I take the one oh one
freeway here in LA through downtown. I often am worried
that some lunatic protesters will jump on the freeway, and
I'm like, what will I do? You know, because that.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Does worry me.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
But other than that, I know, I'm not I don't
really live my life like that. You know, if something happens,
that happens. But uh, that's not the only thing like that?
Is that only for me? Next? All right? Uh?
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Josh the Bears fan, he's in Nebraska.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Yeah, but he would like to know would you rather
go on a cruise or a bus tour?
Speaker 1 (37:56):
So I've never been on a cruise. I have some
people in my circle that love cruises. They say it's amazing,
it's all inclusive, you can eat whatever you want. Other
people say it's terrible. It's you know, it's it's old people,
and it's people that you don't want to hang out with.
So I've never done that. And the idea of being
on a bus where it's a bunch of other people
(38:16):
on the bus that have body how about none be above.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
If I had to choose, I guess i'd.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Go bus because I've never done the cruise thing, so
I've heard mixed reviews. What about you, Lorena, Oh.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
I love both them.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Cruises are great because you know, you got the all
inclusive food and you can just sit by the.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Pool all day.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
But the bus tour is nice because you can actually
walk around and get off and look at different things
around the cities.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
And I love that.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, okay, and well they say those they do the
My friend Jerry's a big boat guy and they go
to different cities and you go, yeah, you can.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
You can get off the cruise ship too. I love cruises.
I think they're awesome.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
If you're all about the cruise.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
Yeah, I mean, you don't mean. It might be a
bunch of old but you don't have to interact with them.
You go with the people that you want to spend
time with, and then.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Hate old people.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I just I just.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah, all right, what's next?
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Where are we have to ask? Ben?
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Your questions are answered?
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Now?
Speaker 6 (39:15):
The King Rory would like to know what is more
annoying burning your tongue while eating or biting yourself while eating.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Well, I've done both.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
I did a week of radio. I had a lisp.
I sounded like this old Notre Dame coach Lou Holtz.
I ate pizza. It was hot, and I ate it
too fast, and I burned my tongue. I also bit
my tongue. I am such a klutz and the result
is you sound terrible. So I'd say the burn is
worse than the bite. I'll go burn Lorena.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
Oh, it's got to be the bite for me. When
I get the inside of my lip or the cheek.
Oh my gosh, then you get it again because it's swollen.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, just wait till you burn your tongue. What about you.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
The burn is so much worse because then you can't
taste things for a while.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Oh it's horror, and it's just it's you. Oh you
have to you can't get it rid of. The tongue
is involved in everything you need. I mean that sounded bad,
but it is. I mean, it's a central part of
what you do, talking, eating other things.
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