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June 19, 2025 • 42 mins

Big Ben talks about the Lakers being sold for $10 billion to Mark Walter of the Guggenheim Group, reports that the Steelers traded George Pickens to appease Aaron Rodgers, Maller to the Third Degree, another edition of #AskBen, and more!

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Catburg seat. From the Business of sport, the business of basketball.
If you will, big news out, big news if you
love financial transactions on some spreadsheets. Somewhere, Man was at
a good day for you. God was at an exciting
day for you. So you have not heard yet, and
perhaps not. We learned that the Bus family has decided

(02:07):
to say bye bye to the Lakers. What kind of
They will no longer control the majority ownership of the
once proud, now floundering franchise that is the Lakers. As
Mark Walter, the gazillionaire from Chicago who is the face
of the Gougenheind group that owns the Dodgers, he's buying it.

(02:31):
He had a chance to buy. He owned part of
the Lakers anyway. It's not that he's coming out of
left field. Mark Walter owned a percente of the Lakers,
had the option of buying the rest of the team.
I had heard it several years back that this was
likely going to happen, and it has happened. So Mark
Walter is going to pay ten billion, ten billion, and

(02:54):
it will be the largest sale when they cross all
the t's and doty isaik, what's a weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
It's all on docu sign.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
But when they do the docu sign, it'll be the
largest sale price for a US professional sports franchise of
all time. The Bus family will keep a little bitty share,
just a little bitty share of the team, just over
fifteen percent. And Genie Buss, we are told, will continue
as the face of the ownership group.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
They can't get rid of her. She's like a cockroach.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
She won't be Walter the face of the Dodgers ownership
as we said there, and people just thinking he'll just
spend endless amounts of money and it'll just be amazing
and all that. So let us discuss the question, like
the pending sale. Will de pending sale of the Lakers
from the Bus family to the Mark Walter Guggenheim Group

(03:47):
be a dramatic change, because all I've heard is all
my god, happy days are here again. Happy days are
here again. Mark Walter is the owner. So is it
really gonna change. It's gonna be dramatic. So my thoughts
to this, I've got goose fanatic and farmers market, and
we will combine all of these things together and we're

(04:08):
gonna put the biscuit in the basket.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
We'll take the biscuit and we'll put the biscuit in
the basket, just like that.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
So to answer the question, will this pending sale lead
to a dramatic change now that somebody actually has money
the Google heind group will own the Lakers are supposed
to gene Bus, The answer is no, it's not going
to be a dramatic change. In fact, I would say
nothing changes. Not a zip b o bupkus is going

(04:34):
to change. And here's why. Right, the Lakers are just
going to continue strutting through the NBA like they own
the joint because that's how they've always operated. And there
are different rules in the NBA that baseball doesn't have
in terms of how much money you can pay deferred money,
and deferred money you can't push it back to lower
your salary cap number to get under these aprons and
all that bull crap. So it's not like the stuff

(04:57):
the Dodgers have been able to get away with. The
NBA has got clauses in there that you can't do
that in the NBA, So all the tricks that the
Dodgers have used doesn't work. Now. I don't know who
the top NBA player in Japan is, but whoever that is,
I expect you to end up on the on the Lakers,
like immediately, like later on today, he'll end up on
the Lakers. Consider how much money they've milked off Otani

(05:20):
from from Japan. So the Lakers are at this point,
they continue to be the golden goose the NBA. We
are convinced rigged the Luka Donzig trade to send him
to the Lakers. Let's make sure with TV ratings are down,
the Lakers don't have a star, no one really, you know,
Lebron's washed up nobody.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Let's make sure we hook them up. So they did.
And so how is that gonna change? So they have
a new owner and.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Genie Boss is kind of kind of step aside. More
than that in a second, but it's just gonna be
more of the same special treatment.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
The Lakers have always gotten special treatment, and all that's.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Different is Mark Walter is the one that's right, the
check and the Googen Hind group, and then that's it.
The NBA has always bent over backwards my entire life
for that pathetic purple and gold crap. It's been that
way for decades and we're talking about multiple.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Generations where it's been that way.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
And so you think Adam Silver is going to allow
under his watch them to slide into irrelevance. Of course,
they just went out and gave the Lakers Luca, even
though he's fat, they gave him Luca.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
They still hooked him up.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Come on, so anyway, and the other thing two is
the referees will continue to help the Lakers out.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
You know, those fifty to fifty.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Calls will go the direction they will go the direction
of the Lakers, and the free agent market will still
tilt to the Lakers and all that. And the players
nobody's signing with the Lakers because in the order, if
that was the case, no one would have played for
the Lakers. And gee Bus didn't know what she was doing.
And the Lakers continue to get playures. Do you think
Lebron James when he went to the Lakers left Cleveland,

(07:01):
You think Lebron said I really want to play for
one of Jerry Buss's kids.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
That's what I that's the owner. I want to play for.
No right, not at all.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Lebron James he came there because he wanted to make
business deals with movie people and things, and he did.
He's gotten all that. He made some cheeseball movies. His
production company took off.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
You know. He has a stupid barber shop show like.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
All that stuff. But it wasn't because of the Genie Bus.
It was because of La right. So that's that's the way.
Is not that it matters, by the way, But again
it doesn't matter. I mean the players that flocked to
the to the Lakers like a moth to a flame.
And Mark Walter will spend money. There's a real salary cap,
although I'm a salarycap truth. When he comes to the NFL,

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and if they're just willing to listen, the teams are
if you have enough money, you can pay and who cares,
it doesn't really matter that much, and you just pay
all the money and then the other teams can play
and say it's not fair, and then you can't make
certain trades.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
And all that stuff. Now, the other part of this can.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
You explain why Genie Buss is selling the team but
is demanding, apparently to continue on in her role as
the face of the Laker ownership group after the cell. Now,
the NBA went woke years ago and they claim they
don't have owners. They're so woke that they have governors,

(08:23):
not owners. Every other sport has owners. NBA has got governors,
which is lame. So we know realities will own a
team and they're not governors.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
They're not voted in anyway.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
So the point of this with Genie Bus is rather
obvious that this woman is addicted to the spotlight. Right
can we all agree on that that those court side
seats and all the celebrities coming up and shaking her
hand there the red carpet at the Hollywood premieres that
she gets invited to.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
She loves that.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
You want to give that up? You don't get that
if you're not the Lakers owner anymore, you don't you
fade off into the sunset in irrelevantce you're just another
rich person surrounded by other rich people. And so she
can still play the part as the fall Laker royalty.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Owner and all that.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
So she gets a But Genie Buss think about what
she's about to become. So the team's being sold to
Mark Walter, She's going to continue going to the league
meetings and all this stuff. She's about to become the
Philly fanatic. She's going to be the mascot of the Lakers.
She's like the San Diego chicken back chick out, the
Laker mascot, wearing a pantsuit, going to league meetings, you know,

(09:34):
waving to the fans, high fans. Yeah, but Mark Walter
is the one who will be deciding where the money
goes and all that stuff. And it's a symbolic nod.
They claim to the Bus family legacy and all that,
but no titles with Genie Buss's owner.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Nobody who knows ball will say that she wanted any that.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Mickey Mouse bubble doesn't count in a resort in Orlando
back in twenty twenty. And my favorite Genie Bus story
is when well Phil Jackson thing is like next level.
But also the Bus Family revolt was that like twenty seventeen.
I want to say, remember there was a revolt. The
brothers the other kids got into a Jim and Johnny

(10:19):
and they were all fighting. There was like a coup
to get control of the Lakers. It was like some
kind of mob movie or something like that. And then
they worked it out. They massaged that, they got through that.
She fired I think she fired the brother. I don't
know how you do that because he owned part of
the team. Also got rid of him. Can Mitch Cupjack

(10:40):
he was out, brought in Magic Johnson that was a
hot mess, and got rid of him. Then now they
have this guy skinny jeans, Rob Polenka, who without NBA intervention,
would have already lost his job, but the league helped
him out and got him some players. Otherwise he didn't
know what he's doing. And there you go. So another
case old family money, right, the Bus family. Jerry Buss

(11:01):
bought the Lakers in nineteen seventy nine for less than
I think it was. Was it like seventy million or
something like that, nineteen seven nine, which a lot of
money nineteen seventy nine, but still real estate guy Jerry Buss,
tremendous philanderer, unbelievable with the ladies, Jerry Buss, and so
less than seventy million, and now the team's going to
be sold for ten billion. I wonder what the capital

(11:23):
gains tax on that is that must be insane, right
you ten billion?

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I wonder what the capital gains to anyway.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Regardless, so Genie Buss again will be the new Laker mascot. Congratulations,
call them the buses and have her face on the uniforms.
There a purely ceremonial role for sure. Now the last
word here the question of why the Lakers sold for
ten billion, and multiple people sending me a message, I

(11:52):
don't understand why the Lakers are worth ten billion and
the Boston Celtics sold just a few months ago for
six point one billion, So why why did the Lakers
go for essentially four billion dollars more than the Boston Celtics.
And so the whole valuation I Forbes every year in
front off of sports and sport. It go all these
business sites in sports, many of them have their evaluations

(12:17):
they come out with every year about teams are worth X,
Y and z, and it's it's obviously things are just sorry.
I mean, because there's a lot of rich people who
are a little skittish because they don't know the stock market.
You know, you end up dropping bombs somewhere and the
prices go down, or there's oil problems here and things
get all messed up, and uh so they don't they

(12:38):
look a gun shy on the on the stock mart.
So they're, oh, I can buy a team, and if
I buy a team, I not only make money, but
all the other people want to kiss my ass at
the cocktail parties and the Hampton's or Beverly Hills or
South Beach Man that's the lot. So they're willing to
spend ridiculous amounts of money. And so it's like a
farmer's market, right. It's farmers market here. And the Lakers

(13:00):
operate in the second largest media market in the United
States with over thirteen million, the Greater LA Area, the
LA bas in southern California, La Base it's much bigger
than that metro area. And then you got Boston right
in Boston, major market, smaller metro population like the metro
populations like five million or something like that. So it's

(13:23):
like an eight million dollar difference. And despite the Celtics
being much more successful than the Lakers, there's less of
a market, so it's just a business deal. And the
other thing, the biggest thing here is the arena. The
Celtics do not own the garden that they play in,
and it's it's a weird set up the Lakers because

(13:43):
the Anshootz group owns where what I used to call
Staples Center now it's like the Crypt, I think is
what they call now. They play at the Crypt, which
is appropriate because the franchise is dead. So the Crypt
is owned by the anshoots group, but it's like they
own They actually own part of the Lakers also, so
it's like all tied together and all that. And so
the Celtics do not own the arena, which is one

(14:04):
of the reasons. The chatter is the Celtics will eventually
leave a likely downtown Boston where they play and go
out to the suburbs somewhere and build a nice, big,
shiny arena and that'll be that the Bruins. The guy
that owns the Bruins actually owns the arena there for
the Celtics in Boston.

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Our lead this hour is from Pittsburgh, PA, the land
of the Insers. Now why are we starting here? I
thought this story was interesting. I have editorial control over
the show, so we'll start with this. A little nugget,
not a chicken nugget, gold nugget, but it was a
nugged that made its way out on the inspiration the

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motivation for the Steelers to trade wide receiver George Pickens.
You might remember Pickens was unloaded to the Dallas cowboy
Is in a trade and they gave they, being the Steelers,
they gave Pickens to Dallas for I believe they got
two safety pins and a handful of pocket lint in

(16:28):
that deal. That's what they got for George Pickens. So
if you didn't see the motivation, perhaps not. I thought
it was interesting. The Pittsburgh football team had determined that
it was a toxic situation. If Aaron Rodgers were to
play with George Pickens, they could not coexist. They could
not co mingle, said the aforementioned report. So Rogers was

(16:50):
not They knew that Rogers was coming to Pittsburgh, even
though it took months and months for it to all
be worked out. But Rogers was not going to be
able to deal with George Pickens and his interesting perspective
on football life. So they said, all right, we gotta
get rid of Pickens. So Tomlin and on the other
big shots there in Pittsburgh unloaded Pickens in a proactive

(17:13):
move to accommodate Aaron Rodgers the guy that hadn't agreed
to the contract yet, at least not as far as
we know. He said, well, I'm probably gonna go there,
but he hadn't agreed to it. So let us discuss
the question thumbs up or thumbs down, thumbs up thumbs
down on the Steelers trading George Pickens to accommodate Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
That that's why they made the move.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
So on this one, I've got DIY chicken soup and
binge watching, and we will combine all of these things
together and we are gonna make the.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Gabba Ghoul is what we're gonna make.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
So number wa, he said, number wa. I'm giving this
not a thumbs up thumbs down a sideway's thumb. I'm
giving this the old sideways thumb. And here's why I
feel like it's part of the story, but not the
entire story. Here, George Pickens was already on thin ice.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Can we all.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Agree on that? I think we can all. You're nodding
your head, yes, we oh, yes. He was at Loggerheads
with Mike Tumman. We documented it behind the Bully Pulpit
here on FSR. We documented there there were some issues
there Mike Tomlin and Pickens were not seeing eye to
eye and all that stuff, and he had become a walking,
talking destruction for the Pittsburgh football team. Immature, the critics said,

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And was the stuff of locker room legend, locker room legend,
George Pickens, which is great talk radio.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
As we have pointed.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Out, the players that cause problems, the players that have
issues are good talk radio. And George Pickens. Was that
a sideline outburst here that gets you an entire monologue?
All right, that's good half hearted blocking being called out
by teammates.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
There's another monologue. Boom boom boom boom boom.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Line them up, knock them down right, and the eye
rolls from teammates. Bad body language on the sidelines. There's
another one in another one in another one. And so
the front office in Pittsburgh did not trust George Pickens.
That he was good as a wide receiver but not

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cold enough and could not be trusted to play nice
in the sandbox. So rather than allow him to be
in the sandbox, they kicked his ass out and send
him the town. And with DK Metcalf coming in a
similar type player as George Pickens, it didn't make a
lot of sense to keep them both around, and so
Pickens was expendable, and so.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
They got rid of him.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
The Aaron Rodgers wrinkle to the story here that they
used the Aaron Rodgers story of his addition as the
the thing that lit the flame for the trade that
the Rogers was like a human shield if you will,
to cover for the trade. That's more of a it's

(20:11):
like a therapeutic cleansing. For Mike Tom it's a DIY project. Now,
normally they tell you that this is not a DIY project.
You don't do this yourself. But the Steelers decided to
do it themselves. When I say that, they said, we've
got to clean out the lead, the asbestis the carcinogens.
We've got to get rid of all of that in

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the toxic mold in the attic over the Steelers' facilities.
So they got rid of the lead, the asbestos, the carcinogens,
all of that, the toxic mold.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Just one move done and.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Rogers, of course, it would have been good for our
purposes if Pickens had stayed with the Steelers, because that
would have guaranteed Rogers, with some passive aggressive behavior, would
have eaten Pickens lunch would have gone on Joe Rogan,
drink some iowasca and had a field day with Pickens,

(21:03):
And you look around this.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Likely in his last year.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
It logically makes no sense for the Steelers to get
rid of Pickens if they're merely doing it for Aaron Rodgers,
because Rogers is gonna be in Pittsburgh for one year,
and then some other washed up quarterback will come and
play for the Steelers next year.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
It's revolving door.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
So why would you get rid of a guy who's good,
not great George Pickens?

Speaker 2 (21:28):
And why would you do that? Why would you tailor
the roster?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Why would you tailor the roster for Aaron Rodgers liking
when he's only gonna be there one year? It made sense,
all right now, Page two to Baltimore, we go the
transaction wire lighting up.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
There was actually that was a sound. It made NFL
try and Jack Shaddon very exciting.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
So the former former Green Bay Packer defensive back Jayyear
Alexander has a new home. He's becoming a poet, a
Baltimore poet better known as the Ravens the Dead Poet Society,
and so Jaire Alexander will join his old college buddy

(22:10):
Lamar Jackson with the Ravens. Will this be a bromance
or a bust in Baltimore for Jair Alexander. So, after
a minutes long, minutes long Mallard deliberation on Jaii Alexander,
we are going with option three.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
All of the above.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
It will both be a bromance and it will be
a bust or go.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
The Ravens aren't going to win the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
They're not going to get to the super Bowl, and
Jayi Alexander is on the on the back side of
dominance in the NFL. However, However, that does not mean
that they will not be sweet nothings whispered between the
two teammates day the old college buddies. This is being
built as the NFL's feel good buddy flick of twenty

(22:55):
twenty five. Couple old college pals reunite it and it
feels so good, A tug at the heartstrings type.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Story, right, tug at the heartstrings type story.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Disney like college pals get together to win a championship
in Baltimore, and the confetti rains down and the crowd
goes wild and all that now, Alexander Jahi Alexander at
one point was an elite, elite.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Defensive back to the Green Bay football team. He was
and not anymore, but he was for a couple of
years there.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
And now he got fired because the packers asked him
to take a pay cut. He said, I ain't taking
a pay cut. So he ditched the frozen thunder, which
is not frozen this time of the year. He said
bye bye. And now the story is why he turned
down more money. That's the report, jaire, Alexander turned out
more money to play with Lamar Jackson in Baltimore. However,

(23:50):
the chatter is the team that offered more money is
the Carolina Panthers, which are barely an NFL team, barely
an NFL team, and so he ends up getting a
one year contract the former Green Bay package. I here
Alexander one year contract six million to play alongside his
old Louisville pale Lamar Jackson. Of course they won't be

(24:12):
playing at the same time because one plays defense, one
plays offense. Thus the conundrum. But you get the point,
and so this is being hyped up. I mentioned the
Buddy Flick chicken soup for the soul type story here. Unfortunately,
this is not some rom com or anything like that.
And it's more like an episode of Seinfeld than you

(24:33):
might remember. The soup Nazi, No soup for you, No
chicken soup for you.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
So it just doesn't pass the smell test.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Again, there will be the hey, we are buddy, buddy
and all that stuff, but it smells more like a
risky gamble. It's not risky in terms of the finances
because it's not a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
It's a one year deal for the Ravens and all that.
But the idea that this is the missing piece. The
Ravens already had a pretty good secondary.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Every year, the Ravens have a good defense and then
something just a little off, just a hair here, just
something just a little sideways, and it doesn't work right.
He doesn't work And so yeah, it's not a lot
of money and all, but it's a diminishing asset. And
here's why this guy was an elite player. Jay R

(25:21):
Alexander locked down big chunks of real estate for the
Green Bay Packers, oozing with the Swagger capitals for the Swag.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
He had aura. He had aura, which a big thing.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
However, that is the player that he was, not, the
player that he is today until proven all the wise.
I thought he can go out there and dominate and
make me look like a total donkey. But at this
point we do the show today, and he has been
camping out a lot in the injury tent. He has
missed twenty games. Twenty games over the last two years.

(25:54):
That is more than half of the available games he
has missed. And so he's been out a lot a
long time, all kinds of ailments. It looks like a
medical book and some college medical students looking at on
different parts of the body that can be injured. Their
hamstring here, a shoulder.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Over there, you name it, and so green bed they
got fed up. Whatever.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
The Packers are weird franchise the way they're operating there,
and they cut them loose. But the bottom line here
on this particular transaction is the Ravens were already a contender, right,
They're a heavyweight contender. They're not quite as good as
the Chiefs, and the Bills are right there, and the

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Bills are a little bit better than them. Usually you
think that that's close. So they're there and Alexander injury
pro player and all that, and it's more of like
a lottery ticket. Now, people do win the lottery. People
do win the lottery. It does happen more people lose
the lottery than win. We used to have a guy

(26:59):
who he quit the shit a while back from Arkansas,
Sir scratch Off and that was that was his nickname.
And he's won some money in the lottery. He's also
lost a lot of money in the lottery. All right, now,
final point. We head now to Dallas. Why because there
was a story that caught my attention. Jerry Jones, who

(27:19):
loves stars, loves to hang out with famous people, loves
being Jerry Jones wants to live to be one hundred
and eighty because he's living the greatest life you can
possibly live. Rich guy owns the Dallas Cowboy. So Jerry
Jones is giving out of the kindness of his heart.
It's being reported he's giving the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders a

(27:40):
four hundred percent increase in pay, yes four Now they
were making nothing but four hundred percent. So what does
that signify to you? What does that signify to you?
So I'll go first year this is it signifies to
me bing binge, watching Gone Bad, Inge, watching Gone bat

(28:01):
Meaning let me explain that Jerry was catching up watching
some of the Netflix documentary that's out there about the
Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders and had a metamorphosis. He's like, wait
a minute, here, the Cowboy cheerleaders were bitching. They were
complaining about how much money they were making. It's been
this way, of course, for fifty years. The Cowboy cheerleaders

(28:23):
have made no money. They're an ad on item for
the Cowboys and just absolute chump change. It's been that
way since the beginning. And Jerry Jones has decided now
to open up the vault and he's gone in there.
He's dusted off the bank vault and opened it up

(28:44):
and all that after the Netflix sob story called America's Sweethearts,
I believe that's the name of it.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
I think that's the name of it, and the show that.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Featured the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders there whining about having to
work multiple jobs and practicing forty hours a week for
the Cowboy cheerleading squad and doing it all for pennies
on the dollar, pennies on the dollar, and of course
unpopular opinion. Nobody forced you. Nobody forced you to try

(29:18):
out for the Dallas Cowboy cheerleading squad, and once they
told you how much it paid, you didn't have to
continue to do the job.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
I'm just saying, but.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Chances are you probably wanted the spotlight. You wanted the
trimmings that come with that job and the photo shoots
and all that stuff and the celebrity that you get.
Right if you're a Dallas Cowboy cheerider, that's kind of
a big deal and people talk about you differently and
near your friends back in high school, like, oh, she's
a Cowboy cheerleader. That's like a big deal. But that

(29:48):
doesn't pay the rent, I don't think until now, and
even now it's not that much. But Jerry tried to
downplay the negative vibe brations around that story about how
cheap the Cowboys owner was and bad PR, bad PR.
And Jerry likes everyone to say how great he is,
and so he's been dodging lawsuits related to the Cowboy cheerleaders.

(30:12):
There was a high profile lawsuit while back, and he's
looking to cut the lawyers off at.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
The pass, so we'll pay him more money and that's
that's it. Now.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Another unpopular opinion, if Jerry Jones won, he just disbanded
the Cowboy cheers. Cheerleaders are not necessary. You can have
an NFL team without cheerleaders. In fact, they're certainly a
luxury more than a necessity in the in the NFL,
and it's like a window dressing, it's like a relic

(30:44):
from a different era. In the NFL was a mom
and pop operation, and back in the nineteen seventies, even
before that, but really the nineteen seventies was the heyday
for the cheerleaders, and back in those days when the
NFL was owned by families and not conglomerates.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Although I say this.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
As Jerry Jones is a family ownership group, a family
ownership group.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
But they were like, hey, man.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Let's throw some hot chicks out there, and these trunk
losers will be happy. You know, the team sucks, but
they'll look at the beautiful girls and they'll be happy.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
And so they did. But the times have certainly changed
since then.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
And it's just fluff and it often leads to more losses.
How many cheerleading squads have sued NFL teams? I know
in Washington the team formerly knows the Redskins. There was
a high profile lawsuit. The Cowboys have had a lawsuit.
I believe the Arizona Cardinals have had a lawsuit, and
I'm sure there's others that's just off the top of
my head, but they're not needed and it's more of

(31:44):
a hassle than anything.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Now, the Cowboys do find a way.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
To make money, and then there's a little more glamour
there with the Cowboys and other teams. But my evidence
that they're not needed, if I'm not mistaken, twenty five
percent of the NFL doesn't have cheerleaders.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
There's thirty two members of the.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Cartel, and twenty five eight of the thirty two teams
don't have cheers. The Bears, the Packers, the Browns, the Giants,
although the Bears do have Tony in the Bey air.
He is a cheerleader for the for the Chicago Bears,
but not a formal cheerleader. And they get the Jets.
They don't have the Bills. Some of these teams have
had them at past. The Steelers don't, even the Chargers.

(32:21):
They're able to play their games without pomp pomps. They're
able to do it and it doesn't seem to affect
the bottom line.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
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Speaker 2 (32:33):
Here we go, here we go, Here we go, we go.
How about here we go, here we go, here we go.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
This is one gets grailed.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
All right.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
So the Packers will not be extending the contracts of
Matt Lafleur and g and Brian Goodakouns before the season
team president and policy.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah that sounds like his porn name. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
He also said that he is generally opposed to the
head coach and general manager working as lane. So this
would imply that those two will either have extensions by
this time next year or be fired by this time
next year.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah. Which do you have your money on? Ben? All right?

Speaker 1 (33:08):
So you go back the Green Bay Packers since the
year two thousand, the year two thousand, I believe they've
had three coaches in the last twenty five years. That's it.
That's all. So there is a weird setup ownership. I'm
gonna go they keep everyone. Nothing changes status quo at
lambeau Field. That they'll get extensions Lafour unless he wants

(33:32):
to go somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
And Gouda Kuns Gotta be careful how you say that name.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
Next Jaguars gym James Gladstone set an interview on Tuesday
that Travis hunter stamina is so incredible that he could
play offense and defense for an entire game.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Ben, do you think we'll get a chance to see that?

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah? Why not?

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Jacksonville socks.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
You might as well play him every single play, Play
them on special teams, play them on defense, play them
on offense. Give people a reason to watch a pathetic
team with the overrated Trevor Lawrence, who's been a bust,
who was supposed to be God's gift at the quarterback position,
the flowing walks like Samson, and the guy stinks at quarterbacks.
So why not just play? Play him every play? And

(34:09):
you know that's you have nothing else to watch? The
Jags for it next.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
Lebron James will turn forty one in December, but isn't
prepared to offer a timeline to when he will hang
it up, saying that he will just see how his
body and family reacts.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Ben, what are the chances this is his last season?

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Well, I'll guarantee you Lebron's not just gonna walk away
without a good retirement tour. Everyone kisses his ass, so
you'll know when Lebron's ready to hang it up because
he don want to get a rocking chair, bottles of wine,
pieces of art. He wants everyone to he can bend over,
everyone can kiss his ass on his way out of
the NBA.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
So he'll announce when he's gonna retire. It give me
a couple more years. How do we do? He passes?

Speaker 1 (34:47):
It is that to win on the ball won the game,
hollering James, that's a winner, James.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
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Speaker 2 (35:12):
As Twitter is your questions on Twitter.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Now and way we go to ask Ben. Your questions
are answers for the rest of the hour. These are
actual questions sent in by actual listeners. You can't submit
a question using hashtag ask band. And just for the record,
some of you have complained that the same people have
their questions read. I don't pick the questions, coops the

(35:36):
one that picks them, so I don't control who gets
picked and who doesn't get picked. So you guys that
are complaining, I don't know what to tell you. All right,
what do we have here?

Speaker 6 (35:45):
Coop ask better questions. And also we don't do sports questions,
so I just completely skip over those.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Okay, all right, I don't know what I don't know
what questions they're asking.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
They just complain what We're gonna start off with a
question from fergda.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Oh there you go. We've never heard from ferg dog.
We don't.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
He wants to know. Are you able to watch an
entire movie without checking your phone?

Speaker 7 (36:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:10):
You know, I can do that. I mean, if it's
a good movie, the movie sucks, I'm going on my phone.
I will absolutely go to my phone. But if I'm
engaged in the movie. Yeah, like old school movies, I
don't really nothing these days. I get my attention that one.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
What about you Larena movie theaters.

Speaker 7 (36:26):
No, in my house, Yes, especially if there's a dull moment,
keep my attention.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Wait wait wait, so you mean yes and no if
you switch that around. So at the movie theater. Not
in the theater, you will not check your phone.

Speaker 7 (36:40):
But on a regular movie.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, I'm the same way. I can.

Speaker 6 (36:45):
I can go a whole movie without checking my phone.
If I'm in the theater, but at home, I'm picking
up my phone.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Well, my problem in the theater, if it is a
boring movie, I fall asleep. I'm gone.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's a dark room, comfortable seat, air conditioned, I'm sleep.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Well, what's next? What are we have to ask?

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Man?

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Your questions are answers?

Speaker 6 (37:03):
Bobby in Florida, Hi, Bobby, you'd like to know now
that summer heat is here?

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Would you rather cool off in the ocean, a lake,
or a pool? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:13):
So I'm a big pool guy. There's not really a
lake that I go to.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I've only been to a lake a few times. Ocean's okay.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I don't really like the ocean around here because it's polluted,
So I guess i'll go pool Loreina.

Speaker 7 (37:27):
Yeah, any of those, as long as it's not a river.
I don't like super fast running water like that. Not
a strong stroke swimmer.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
No, did you have a lake in Oregon when you
were growing up.

Speaker 7 (37:35):
Yeah, we had a couple of them, but you weren't
supposed to swim in them. One of them had a
really high mercury content.

Speaker 6 (37:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Lakes are kind of disgusting. Yeah, because they're sitting water. Yeah,
gotcha cool.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
I'll be totally Honest, I'm not a fan of like
any of them, but I would pick Pool over with
the other two.

Speaker 7 (37:53):
More of an air conditioner type of guy.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Huh Yeah, nice tropical.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
I got a nice exotic luxury pool though with a fountain.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, that's nice resort. Yeah, so way to go.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
I walk around the beaches here and I got oil
on my feet. I can't imagine what's in the water.
If I'm getting oil my feet from the sand. What
is next to do we have here? Late night drug Tester, high,
Late night drug Tester, you would like to know in
honor of National Clean your Aquarium Day? Yes, have you
ever had pet fish? Well, technically yes, although reality no,

(38:28):
there were a few times that, Like the little community
fair thing that we had when I was growing up,
I won a goldfish and we had a little tank
and that, you know, typical story, cliche story.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
The goldfish lasted.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
About a day and then that was it died. So
in my head I had a fish and an aquarium,
and I have been to the pet store and they
look amazing. Those aquariums are awesome. And what was that
show on Discovery Channel or one of those they.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Did they build?

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Really?

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, the guys in Vegas, but they're from New York
and they build these crazy. That's a good show. That's
something you do if you're really, really rich. And I'm
not really really rich.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
So no, what about you, Lorrena?

Speaker 7 (39:09):
As a kid, I remember having one, but it might
have been a dream.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
A dream. Yeah, do you dream about a fish tank? Really?

Speaker 7 (39:16):
I'm pretty sure we had one though?

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Did you ever goldfish? I had goldfish?

Speaker 1 (39:19):
I think I give them a little plastic bags when
I was a kid. One of them and then they
were dead within two.

Speaker 7 (39:25):
Just remember the fish that suck on the walls.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Is that what they sound like?

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Okay, oh cool? What about you?

Speaker 6 (39:32):
Yes, as a child at my family home, we had
a we had two fish tanks. One the downstairs one
was a regular fresh water tank and the upstairs was a.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Salt water tank. And who cleaned them?

Speaker 6 (39:46):
We got suckerfish so that they would clean the tank.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Not smart? Yes, all right? So what is next year?

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Is?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Ask man?

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Your questions are answers for the rest of the hour.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
Donkey sausage, Hi, donkey, you would like to know sandals
or sneakers?

Speaker 1 (40:04):
I'm team sandals man all the time. I wear a
year round sam I come in here. I'm always sporting
the sandals no matter what, Lorraina.

Speaker 7 (40:12):
I love a good pair of sandals, but my feet
get really cold, So I am kind of a sneaker girl.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Nah. So the reason you get in the radio is
to wear sandals. Otherwise you do TV. I wear shoes.
What about you, Coop.

Speaker 6 (40:25):
I'm the same as Loraina. I typically like I never
get cold to get like. I love the cold, but
my feet get ridiculously cold for some reason.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
So cold.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I don't really have that problem. I'm always too warm
no matter what.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
I don't have that. What is next you is ask Ben.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Your questions are answers to the rest of the After
you like this, we do it every week.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
If you don't like it, we only do it once
a week.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
If you really really like it, we have something that
is nothing like this on the fifth hour mail bag
on Sunday.

Speaker 6 (40:53):
What's next, Lady Sideburns is trying to start some stuff,
Lady Sideburns. Lady Sideburns would like to know which color
would you least enjoy being handcuffed too for twenty four hours?

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Which caller?

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yes, all of them, every one of them. Now let
me see well Blind Scott would be at the very top.
And the amount of emails that Blind Scott sends me,
I can't imagine having to I mean that would be
a horror show.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
What about you, Lorena, don't ask dumb questions? Oh yeah, Leprecaun,
Yeah yeah, mine's pretty easy. Will you be calling in sick?

Speaker 6 (41:29):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yours is hollering, James? Yeah, I might be out of town.

Speaker 7 (41:31):
Who knows.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
By the way, Leprechaun sent me, he wants to come
in for two nights. I said no, yeah, I said no.
We're not even supposed to really have being a life.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Get a job, yeah, real quick. Next, what's cool? Donkey
Sausage wants to know.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
Have you ever considered being a ref or umpire for
like a high school gamer or something like that.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Well, I wasn't a yso you soccer referee for you
really back in the day. Yeah, if you did not
go very well, I was a bad referee.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
What about you? No, no coop, nah no nah. It's
easy side money.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Although you get yelled at a lot, people goof on
you and all that soccer mom.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
There you go, bring the oranges and then those peanut
butter and jellies like the crustables. You can bring the
crustables or
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