August 6, 2025 • 40 mins
Brian Noe is in for Big Ben and talks about Caleb Williams being under the most scrutiny among NFL players, Jerry Jones not even entertaining Micah Parsons' trade request, a little Eminem & Fergie, and much more!
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh what is going on? Welcome in here. We got
all kinds of stuff going on. We got sex toys
flying on courts and the WNBA still we have we
have Malon Militia, a knockdown, drag out fight that is
brewing between myself and Justin Cooper that will come your
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way throughout the show this morning. And also we got ball, man,
We got ball all over the place. It's a month away,
and we get the NFL even shorter for college football.
All kinds of stuff going on when it comes to ball.
Of course, rational thinking human beings consider ball to be football.
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So that's where we start right here. We start with
I was thinking about this with Bears quarterback Caleb Williams. Okay,
so there was a video floating around of Caleb Williams
trying to throw a football into a net. Okay, so
they had like these three openings in the net, and
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you're trying to hit each opening, right. It kind of
if you have a shorter like a slot receiver, that's
the shorter one. Then there's like a medium one. Then
there's like a taller one if you have dk Metcalf
or someone to throw to like that, you know, so
it's like small medium in large. So he's trying to
throw the ball through the net and he's missing, and
then he's missing again. Then he misses one more time,
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and then he's frustrated. And now all of a sudden,
this is a thing. People are like, Oh, I don't
know about this guy. Here we go again, Caleb Williams. No, no, no,
there's actually a tweet so Scott Barrett, he covers fantasy football,
and he tweeted it caught my attention. He tweeted, My
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uncle just texted me this told you that nail polish
was a red flag. Like there are people that think
these things, like realistically think these things. And so I
started thinking about Caleb Williams, and I thought about it
from more of like a bigger level, more of like
a league wide level. Because Caleb Williams is incredibly scrutinized.
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Right He's under the microscope. We're breaking down him throwing
a ball into a net, and this is a thing.
It's ridiculous. But the question becomes when you expand it
beyond Caleb Williams. Is Caleb Williams the most scrutinized NFL
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quarterback right now? Is he at the top of the list?
And so I started thinking about quarterbacks around the league.
Who's on the short list as one of the most
scrutinized quarterbacks in the league right now? So I've got
a few guys on my list. Guys are more than
willing to participate. Are more than welcome, I should say,
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I don't know if you're willing, we'll find out, but
you're more than welcome to participate. So on my short
list of most scrutinized NFL quarterbacks, let's define that first.
We just pick on them at every everything they do.
It's like the Police song. It's like when Sting said this,
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that's right, We'll be watching everything you every little thing
you do. We're gonna be all over it. We're gonna
be scrutinizing it. We might make a bigger deal than
there needs to be made about it. But you better
believe we'll be watching everything and we might react to
ninety five percent of those things. Right, So scrutinized, meaning
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that under the microscope, Dak Prescott has to be on
the short list. He's the quarterback of America's team and
he hasn't had postseason success. Okay, so we follow everything
Dak Prescott does, and he was banged up last year,
only played eight games, But if he's behind center the
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whole season, long rest assured, he is going to be
incredibly scrutinized. Someone else that's still on this list. You
have to include Brock Purty, the Niners QB. Now, I've
said many times, the Purty Police. They are everywhere, Okay,
the people, the defenders of Brock Purty. If you say
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anything halfway critical about their guy, Brock Purty, they will
be lurking and just itching to make a citizen's arrest
if you slip up and say anything that's a little
bit too critical of their guy, Brock Purty. So there's
this back and forth thing with Brock Purdy and I don't.
The weird thing is, I don't think many people just
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flat out trash the guy. I think the most common
take of brock Purty is he's pretty good but and
that's where we part. That's the fork in the road.
But not a difference maker in terms of once you
pay him huge money, he's able to compensate for the
deficiencies of the roster. Look, that's where the debate where
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it lands.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Right there.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I don't believe he is a difference maker. Now they
have to cut corners, they have to let some guys go,
They've lost a lot of talent, and I'm supposed to
sit here and expect brock Purty to take him to
the promised Land when he doesn't have as good of
a supporting cast. I just don't believe it. But because
of that back and forth, that discussion where I say
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that and some other people think that and say that,
it's met with these who think he can do no
wrong and he's short changed and he's undersold, and he's
not given his flowers and YadA ya. It goes back
and forth. So he is incredibly scrutinized. I would say
a couple other quarterbacks on the short list of most
scrutinized right now and heading into this season, kind of
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like where it stands right now and where I see
it going this season, you'd have to include I believe
Justin Herbert and Trevor Lawrence. Now for the reasons why.
Justin Herbert, He's had a lot of regular season success,
just in that playoff wins, and there are a lot
of people that hammer him for that, and justifiably, so
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you gotta step up in the postseason. You gotta produce,
you gotta win games. Trevor Lawrence, he was supposed to
be the best prospect since Andrew Luck number one overall pick.
I thought he was going to be a baller. He
has not been a baller or anything close to that
while he's been in the NFL. And it's go time now.
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Now he's got Leam Cohen as a competent head coach,
at least a competent offensive mind. Brian Thomas Junior had
a fantastic rookie season as a wide receiver. Now he
gets Travis Hunter. It's like the excuses are over. It's
go time. But everything that Trevor Lawrence does, especially if
he's not performing to the level that we thought he
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would reach, especially at this point. He gets hammered for that,
and again rightfully so. But he's scrutinized heavily, and I
would argue as he should be. He's a former number
one overall pick. We we're like best prospects since Andrew
Luck and he hasn't come close to living up to that.
I would also include in these are more like the
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honorable mentioned guys. Two more on my list of most scrutinized,
and we'll whittle it down to the most scrutinized quarterback
in the league right now. I would mention Aaron Rodgers
as kind of like an honorable mentioned guy. He's gonna
be scrutinized quite a bit. And I would say he's
more like the Jerry Jones of athletes, meaning he finds
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a way to keep himself in the spotlight. Maybe it's
a hit on the Pat McAfee show, or he says
something the spotlight. He's like, oh wait, the spotlight's going
away from me. Let's change that. Let's put right back
on me, right back on number twelve, Right back on
Aaron Rodgers. All right, So, like we're going to be
fixated on what Aaron Rodgers does and doesn't do this season.
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I don't think it's gonna be, you know, top of
the league scrutiny because we don't realistically think the Steelers
are going to challenge to win a Super Bowl. Right, So,
if we had those sky high expectations and he's underperforming
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or living up to them, like, he's gonna be scrutinized
and talk about, like talked about like crazy. But because
we don't, I don't really think that. I think that's
gonna you know, lower the scrutiny just a little bit.
But he's still gonna be one of those guys that
were fixated on. And I would also say another honorable mention.
I would say Lamar Jackson. Now this is primarily because
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of the playoffs. I don't think he's a highly scrutinized
player in the regular season because, look, Lamar produces. Lamar
has been incredibly productive. He's a two time MVP. I
think he should have been a three time MVP. I
thought his season was that special last year, and so
what's there to say? What's there to scrutinize with Lamar
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in the regular season? He's productive, He's a team guy, right,
like I love Lamar in the regular season. My only
beef with Lamar is he wets himself time and time
again in the playoffs. And so that's why I say
he's honorable mention. There's not a whole lot of scrutiny
in the regular season because he wins a ton, he's
highly productive. What's there to pick on? But that debate
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rolls around when the playoffs git here. So of these
guys at least on my list, and hey, you're more
than welcome to compare notes with me. If you have
anybody else that I didn't mention and you want to
make the argument for the most scrutinized guy, feel free.
So of these guys that I have, whittle it down
to five guys most scrutinized short list, So I would
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have Caleb Williams, Dak Prescott, brock Perdy, Justin Herbert, and
Trevor Lawrence. Of those guys, who's the most scrutinized guy,
you know who it is right now? It is Caleb Williams.
Caleb Williams is the most scrutinized NFL quarterback right now. Again,
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we're breaking down a video of him throwing footballs into
a net, as if that matters at all. There's a
follow up video where he's just he's making each throw
just money into the same right on the money, right
on the money, right on the money. Perfect. No one cares.
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It's all about the one video where he missed a
few and then he was upset about it. It's insane,
right Like it goes back to his college days where
he cried in his mother's arms after they walked lost
to I think it was Washington. It was this emotional
back and forth game. You know they're not gonna make
it to the National Championship Games, emotional moment. He cried,
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big deal, guy cares and he paints his fingernails, as
if that matters at all. This is insane to me.
This is like Andy Dalton territory. You're gonna be like,
what what does that mean? So when Andy Dalton was
coming out of TCU, I didn't realize this was a thing.
There are people who will throw it out there where
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they're like, well, you know, we haven't had a whole
lot of ginger quarterbacks that have had success in this league, right,
Like Andy Dalton has red hair, and so people are like,
whoa I you know, I can't buy Andy Dalton because
of the red that to me is in a similar
category as Caleb Williams painting his fingernails. I don't think
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it matters at all, but there are many people who do.
And that's the thing that is the ultimate sign of
being overly scrutinized, when people point to that as if
it matters, as if it's like, oh, yeah, I told
you this guy is not gonna live up to being
a number one overall draft pick. I mean, he cried
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in his mother's arms, he paints his fingernails. Look at
this throwing the ball into the net video. See there
you go. Three things. No, that's just being overly scrutinized.
And when he was such a lightning rod for opinions
right like he was polarizing. Everybody had an opinion on
Caleb Williams at USC and that's just trickled into Caleb
Williams in the NFL. And I think that some of
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this is his fault. This is story that went was
a couple of months ago right where seth Wickers. He's
got a book coming out here fairly soon talking about quarterbacks.
He had some juicy details in the book there was
some excerpts that were released that we're talking about Caleb
Williams didn't initially want to be drafted by the Bears,
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and it was Caleb and his inner circle, Caleb's dad.
They're just giving quotes to Seth Wickersham like yeah, didn't
really want to go there, and it's like, what what
are you guys doing? Why would you say this? This
is something you say years down the road after a
lot of success in the NFL, either your team wins
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a ton of games, you produce, you put up all
these numbers, a lot of success, and then it's like, oh, yeah,
by the way, initially I didn't even want to be
drafted by the Bears. And it's just like a fun
fact at that point, like really, no kidding, you didn't
want to go there, not after a rookie year where
you struggle. That's a terrible idea. So I think that
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he's done himself a disservice by being a little bit
too lippy, because some people do that, they overshare. You know,
we're in the day of day and age of Hey,
I just ate a ham sandwich for you know, lunch,
and we're like cool, No one cares it's over sharing.
That was Caleb Williams over sharing moment right there. So
sometimes he adds to the scrutiny that's already sky high.
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I do. I think he's the most scrutinized NFL quarterback
right now. I think it's Caleb Williams. Here's the question
I would ask, what other quarterback has been scrutinized as
heavily for something as dumb as Caleb Williams. What quarterback
has been scrutinized as much for Caleb Williams missing a
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couple of throws into a net and then being upset
about it. Who's the guy? It doesn't exist? Right's not
there in the NFL. We aren't picking on another quarterback
quite as much. He is the most scrutinized guy. That'd
be my my argument for Caleb Williams.
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Or wherever you get your podcasts. That is a random
music question I have. So you're playing a Summertime by
Will Smith? What songs do you think you know all
the lyrics to?
Speaker 4 (15:52):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
It's something off the top of you. Here is there
one that comes to your mind, Cooper Lorena that you say,
I know every single line of this song fer Delicious? Okay,
that's the one. All right, Sure you think you know
every single line, single word? Okay, Coop, you I swear
if you go with Tool again, man.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Well, yes, I mean obviously there's plenty of Tool songs.
I'd say, uh, almost every song on uh the oh
my god, I'm blanking on the album.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Name but the.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Eminem's album, not the Marshall Mathers LP, but the one
that came out in like two thousand.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Why am I blanking on the name of it, No,
the one before that.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
The Closet one, Yes, Why why am I the Marshall
Mathers LP No No, no, the Slim Shady lp No, the.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Eminem Show.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Oh okay, so you know that one?
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Like Front and Back, I'm like, plenty of songs on
that album.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I would know all the lyrics to.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
All of them.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, man, I just I don't know. I just think
about that with Well, I thought about that song with
Will Smith, and then I thought about you know, like
the Fresh Prince of bel Air, and I probably know
most of that one still is just as stuck in
my brain, you know. But every now and then you'll
see someone do karaoke and they think they know the
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song and they get up there and they know like
twenty five percent of the song.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
You know, different when the pressure is on you too.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, that's true. That's true. But especially for rap songs, Coop, Like,
there are so many lyrics in a rap song where
there's there's not one line where you're like, oh shoot,
I forgot that one, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I'm pretty sure I could do cleaning out my Closet.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Uh, we should do that? Can we play it? And
you just say what he says.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Let me pull up my closet song.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Hold on, Oh yeah's it song. Let's try it. Let's
see if you really do know this or not?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Coop, I don't want to do this.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Come on, We're not gonna use this against you. That
wouldn't be like I think you. I think you got
a fighting chance. But you know, I'm skeptical. There are
just so many lyrics, and you got to know them
on time. You know, it's not easy.
Speaker 9 (18:27):
Are you guys ready?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
We're ready? You're ready, Coop? That's the question. You You
don't have to do your eminem impression. You have to
say it.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
You know, where's my snare? I've got no snare on
my headphones? Headphone there.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I didn't know you were gonna get that right too. Man,
you're on top of it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Have you ever been hated or discriminated against?
Speaker 10 (19:07):
I have.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
I've been protested and demonstrated against picket signs for my
wicked rhymes.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Look at the signs. Sick of the mind. Off the
mother kid that's behind all this commotion.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
The emotion run deepest oceans, exploding tempers, flamoring from parents.
Just blow them off and keep going, not taking nothing
from no one, give them how long and some breathing,
keep kicking nass in the morning and taking names in
the evening. The taste of sour is vinegar in they mouth.
So they can trigger me, but you'll never figure me out.
Look at me now, I bet you're probably sick of me. Now,
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ain't your mama. I'm gonna make you look so ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Now?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Pretty good? Pretty good? Okay, all right, all right, vere
right there.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah, and one part I just ran out of breath.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I don't blame you, dude. Yeah, Like, so you're gonna
do like the really hard part of rap. God you
know where he's doing.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah, No, I can't. I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Good luck. That's pretty good, man. There's just I'm just
saying a lot of lyrics, a lot of stuff, like
a lot of opportunities to forget a line or a word.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
That's pretty good, Coop. I think you're nicely done.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah, man, I'm glad I remembered the lyrics.
Speaker 9 (20:21):
Especially on the spot like that ten out of ten, Coop,
because like.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Metallica is sort of like our common ground, right, Coop.
A lot of it, And I'm telling you there are
a lot of songs that you know, I would think
I would know every lyric, and I guarantee you that's wrong.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Oh yeah, same for me with with Metallica too, and
I guarantee you there are certain songs where I think
I know the lyric and that's not the lyric at all.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, I'm like, I'm singing something completely wrong.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
It happens a lot. Well, you know me, I'm a
metal guy primarily, not only, not solely, but primarily. And
you know, I'll be on Spotify and every now and
then I'll just click on the lyrics and I'll like
follow them along and I'm like, hold, I didn't I
was I was wrong this whole time. I've listened to
that song hundreds of times and I never bothered to
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just check if I was right or not. And I
was saying something that was wrong the whole time. Yeah,
welcome to metal. You know who knew that could happen?
Speaker 4 (21:22):
But yeah, I like that.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Well, so what's the next one, Lorrainer? What was the
song that you mentioned? We carry yoking? That one too? Delicious?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Yeah, I don't know if the world needs come on,
what are we waiting for here?
Speaker 10 (21:39):
No? Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Hows man tables have turned. Yeah, there's not as much
uh you know fire for this experiment. Huh, Loraina, No,
well maybe a little bit later. I just don't want
I don't want you to be practicing, and you know
I'll be back, Coop. I got to run in the
bathroom real fast and you're just practicing.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Okay, hold on, I'll just I'll just do it.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Hold on, okay, all right, all right, very good.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
This was like middle school days for me, like out
on the school yarding this.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I want to hear, you know, cleaning up my closet
the karaoke version next time you're on stage, Coop. That
was very well done. Oh this scares me? Are there
a lot of cuss words in this one?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Lorena?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 9 (22:37):
Hold on, this is a horrible version of delicious.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Okay, you got to be in your zone here. It's
not going to work.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
She already got a hint on the first couple of lyrics.
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (22:45):
No, no, his part is not my part al right,
that's right, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
So you don't know every lyric to the song.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Just just Fergies, Yeah, you know Fergie's that's.
Speaker 9 (23:00):
The part, right, Okay, listen, y'all, Chris, this is don't
be slicious for delicious definition.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Make them boys go local. They just so they get
them plashes from my photo.
Speaker 9 (23:16):
You can see me.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
You kiss please me. I'm easy, scy I got reasons why.
Speaker 9 (23:21):
Some boys just come and go like seasons for delicious.
Look at this, you sin if you are suspicious, all
that is fictitious. I'll blow kisses. That puts them boys
on rock rock and they be lying down the block
just to watch what I got.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, look at the talent on this show. My gosh.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
Technically I technically did mess up on the first part
because I started singing the second verse instead of the
first one.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
But they're both great.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Guys are so underpaid until it gets to the fast
part even more impressive. Yeah, I want to hear that.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
The round always looking me up and down. Look at him.
I just want to say you now, I am trying
to round up drum a little mama. I don't want
to take a man, and I know I'm coming off
just a little bit conceited, and I keep on repeating
how the boys want to eat up. But I'm trying
to tell that it can't be treated like clientele because
they say she delicious vicious.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It made me think of the part in the movie
where the Miller's you know, that comedy with Jason Zakis.
Speaker 9 (24:22):
And they like pay people to be his family.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
So they can Yeah, yeah, right, yes, the border. But
the boy in like the fake family knows waterfalls like
way too much, and everyone's looking at him like, what
the hell does he know all all these lyrics, you
know what I mean? Yeah, that's what it made me
think of. But very nicely done. Wow, I think it's
only fair. It's your turn. Yeah, I throw on some
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Lamb of God before me real fast. That's the thing,
because it won't sound right if I'm just like literally
saying because I can't. I can't do Coop's metal voice.
Like Coop he greets me every time, and you can
attest to this lorrena whenever I chime in right like
I connect for the fill in shift, and Coop will
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just be like, what in this metal voice? And I'm like,
it's perfect, Coop. You need to be on stage somewhere, man,
that is so metal right there. I like, I can't
sing like that. I can't do that, like from the
throat type stuff. I can't yell like that.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
I don't know how long I would be able to
do it for Like you know, I say, I say
what up?
Speaker 8 (25:30):
But yeah, I don't job that. Yeah, I don't know,
yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
But the man, metal is a different it's a different
ballgame right there. To keep up with those guys, I
couldn't do it. I could say the lyrics you know,
on time, but I couldn't. I couldn't do him in
a metal voice. Yeah, I don't know often, man, I
don't know a metal song off the top of my head.
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I wouldn't know Ruin. I'll tell you right now, I
won't know all the lime of it. Ten. Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Man.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Let me think, let me let me look at Spotify,
let me look at something. Let me look at my
my Spotify list, and uh, I'm sure there are many songs.
I'm sure there's like some Metallica songs I would know
front and back.
Speaker 9 (26:20):
What about you got any Shakira songs you could do?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Front and back? Dua lipa for sure? There we go.
They're playing dua in the gym today. Lorena is very fun. Uh,
you know what, I shazammed it? It was let me see.
I'll tell you real quick. You know she's a very
tall woman. She is a very tall woman at a
skying five eight. That Shakira over there or that dual
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leap over there.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Shakira is not a tall woman.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
How tall is Shakira?
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I think she's like five to one, isn't she? Wow?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
It's crazy, but no, they don't. Still they don't training season.
That was the duo lipa song that they played at
the gym today. Good song. I didn't know it by name.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I don't even think I know that song.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
You definitely know it, but you don't know it by name.
I guarantee you know this song, but I'm like, that's
the title of it. Had no idea. But yeah, I
couldn't do that one. Yeah, let me let me report
back to you. Okay, let me. I'm not gonna cheat.
This is a non cheating show. But I'll look for
(27:25):
a metal song and just kind of like recite the
lyrics if you will. Oh, I know, a good one
would be Ah Didtohead from Slayer. Because he's going so fast,
that'd be a good one. He's like here in nineteen
ninety four, things are different than before. Final just won't
be adorned. Real fast song. Okay, real good song. Yeah,
go with see if you can punch up a slayer dittohead. No,
(27:49):
he does drop an F bomb. I don't know if
there's a clean version of that. We can dump it
if needed. Okay, uh, yeah, no, that'd be a good one. Yeah,
let me know if you can find that one eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox. If you feel like
doing some karaoke on the fly, you know, we'll just
punch it up and have at it.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (28:08):
I can't see a clean version, but let's see what
the scott.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's okay, Yeah, break it up.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
We're good now now I don't know. Yeah, then we're
safe now for a little bit until the Yeah, until
the next person.
Speaker 10 (28:28):
Here's me.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
It's okay, let it go, Let it go. Finance was
a weirdore invictation to the game guns and played to
meet the fame every day more the same murder maya
man archy now or done legally? Mastermind your killings free,
unafraid of punishment. With the passive government, there's nothing for
you to regret. Tom's the best, okay to regret. Tom's
(28:59):
all high. You know, he's a high voice. Right, yeah,
but oh Slayer's got some great stuff. Good.
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Speaker 3 (29:10):
Okay, so why doesn't the NBA handle trade requests like
the NFL does. A trade request in the NFL is
mostly met with yeah, no, we're not trading you. A
trade request in the NBA is often met with Okay,
no problem, we'll get YadA here. For the most part,
(29:33):
that's how it goes. This trade request from Micah Parsons,
star pass rusher from the Dallas Cowboys, he had this
long post on X and went into great detail of Hey,
you know, my dad and I grew up Cowboy fans.
Unfortunately I don't want to be here any longer. YadA, YadA.
(29:56):
Went into great detail, and some of it makes a
lot of sense where Jerry Jones has made some statements
publicly where it's just it's just a stupid way to
approach things. When he's talking about, you know, hey, Michael Parsons,
he missed six games last season, which wasn't even true.
He missed four games last season, and Mike Hah took
(30:17):
exception to that. So Jerry Jones has done a terrible
job handling this situation, and so I can completely understand
how a lot of it would rub Michael Parsons the
wrong way. I think it's recency biased more than anything.
I can understand you. You're ticked off, you're not getting
your money, get me out of here. Some of that
(30:37):
might be real. I think most of it is just
a negotiating tactic. That's your leverage. That's what you're trying
to do to get a deal done, try to get
it going. But the point, the first part of this
is the NFL. Oftentimes, so many times a trade request
(30:58):
has happened from the player and it's met with this.
Here's Jerry Jones. Gerry, are you considering trading Michael Parsons.
I'm not, no, not not really no, not thinking about that.
They're a little more from Jerry Jones.
Speaker 10 (31:11):
Don't lose in sleepover. So just to be one thing
I would say to our fan, don't lose in sleepover.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Okay, so as far as the negotiation goes, you know,
don't lose any sleep. He's basically saying, don't freak out,
like Michael Parsons is going somewhere else, like just don't
lose any sleep over there, so again not taking it seriously.
Here's the head coach, Brian Schottenheimer his thoughts on, uh,
does he expect Michael Parsons to be there?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I expect Michael to be here?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Okay, expects Michael even though he made this trade request
and went into great detail. Unfortunately, I don't want to
be here any longer, not buying any of it. Then
he's also detailing where he expects Mike gonna line up
this next season.
Speaker 10 (31:55):
We're still planning on moving Mike around and putting him
in all the spots that we see him and using
our fronts the way we want to see it.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
So like, there's no teeth to this trade request at all.
Has absolutely no teeth to it at all. And and
the Cowboys are not freaking out, like, oh, we better
get this deal done. We're not gonna have Micah Parsons.
They're like, yeah, settled down, everything's fine, don't lose any sleep.
(32:23):
We're not thinking of trading him. And shot he's like, actually,
you know, I'm thinking about where I'm gonna line him
up this next season. We'll have him a little bit
at you know, linebacker. We'll have him at rush and well,
you don't move him around a little bit. Here he's
game planning with Micah like the furthest thing from his
mind is Micah not being there. And so that to
(32:44):
me is it's a huge difference between the way the
NFL handles these things and the way the NBA does.
I don't know why more NBA teams don't do what
NFL teams do. A star NBA player is like, I
want to be traded. Why don't more teams just say no,
we're not trading you, Like you're too valuable to us.
(33:08):
We're not gonna get equal value, So no, that's not
on the table. Why don't they just say no? Now,
there have been times where star players will force their
way out, you know, and NBA teams buckle. I just
don't think NFL teams would buckle the same way that
NBA teams do. We've had stories where, you know, fat
(33:30):
James Harden, he was with Houston at the time, wanted
out and he was gaining all this weight and wasn't
even trying when he was out there on the court,
clearly forcing the rocket's hand, and they eventually buckled and
moved him. There was a Jimmy Butler has done this
a couple of times in Minnesota, most recently with Miami Heat.
(33:51):
We're just forcing his way out. He's getting kicked out
of practice. He's just he's forcing his way out. It's
going to happen, and the organization just buckles and does it.
I'm just surprised, and I wouldn't look at the two
leagues as completely polar opposites. I don't like, I don't
know why a team in the NBA wouldn't try to
(34:13):
do this and just say, hey, you know, we're not
moving him. The Cowboys haven't even said, well, we appreciate
where Mike's coming from, we get it. Blah blah blah.
They're just like, yeah, no, not on the table, not
thinking about trading him. And there's just no teeth to this.
You see Micah Parsons at practice, still in his number
(34:34):
eleven Cowboys Jersey. Nothing quite says I'm out of here,
like I'm still here. That's like saying I'm out of
this relationship. We are freaking done, and then you like
go to the cheesecake factory with that person later that night.
You know, it's not saying you're out of here. At all,
So he's not going anywhere. But you see this time
(34:55):
and time again in the NFL. You've seen it just
in the last year. My Garrett with the Browns, he
requested a trade and the next thing you know, he
got this huge new contract and he didn't go anywhere.
The team was like, no, we're not thinking about moving him.
Same thing with t Higgins with the Bengals. He requested
a trade and they gave him the money and he's
(35:19):
still a Cincinnati Bengal. I think it's gonna happen with
all three of these guys, Trey Hendrickson with the Bengals,
Terry McLaurin with the Commanders, and Micah Parsons with the Cowboys.
I think all three of those guys are going to
get extensions and are still going to play for their
current teams. I don't see any of them moving on
and going elsewhere. And you could argue that, you know,
(35:42):
when you think of the NBA situations where some players
request a trade, maybe some of them would be appeased
if they got this huge new contract extension and they're like,
you know what, I'll stay, I'm not gonna go elsewhere. Yeah. Maybe,
but you know, as well as I do. The batting
average right for trade requests from NBA players, especially stars,
(36:05):
it's a high batting average, they request a trade, they
typically get moved. And the NFL these teams are just like, yeah, no,
not like, listen to Jerry again.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Jerry, are you considering trading Michael Parsons?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I'm not just come right out and say I'm not
even thinking about it.
Speaker 10 (36:21):
No.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
And now the other part of this is this is
so clunky from the Cowboys. It's so unnecessary and just
so dumb. It's like, I feel like I'm losing time
and energy with this whole thing. And I'm not even
a Cowboys fan. This whole thing is just obnoxious. They're
gonna pay Micah, it's gonna be a huge contract, and
(36:46):
they're gonna look back and be like, what was all
that about? What money did you save? What time and
effort did you gain? Like, where's the gain here? By
dragging this out and then giving a huge contract extension
to Micah Parsons. This is so unnecessary. The drama of
(37:07):
this hole back and forth is so avoidable. And the Cowboys,
yet again, I don't know if it's just for headlines,
it's for clicks. It's for attention. They love dragging this
out and paying more money than they would have to
had they extended the player earlier. It's so dumb and
now we get Hey, is Mica going to be ready
(37:30):
for the first game of the year against the Eagles?
Listen to this. This was earlier, I think on Tuesday.
Check this out.
Speaker 10 (37:36):
Get any confident he will be on the stead against
the again, No, absolutely not. That has to a big
part of that is his decision. How about I know that.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Okay, we don't know if he's going to be in
uniform against the Eagles. All right, makes some sense. Now
this is the part. Listen to this answer. This is
the clunkiest, most random answer from Jerry Jones. Just listen,
sit back in and enjoy. Does he essentially need to
reach out to you?
Speaker 10 (38:03):
Again, y'all are getting in the h what's in the
mind and what's in the said? Uh, this is a
good time. He's a subject matter where of is what
it is is what it is, and uh uh we've
we'll work through it or we will not work through it.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Hmm.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Okay, right, it's a legitimate question like does he need
to reach out to you? And I don't know, Jerry
just thought that he was asking something else, I guess,
But yeah, I would expect this to get worked out.
This is just the scenic route that's totally unnecessary. This
is the worst scenic route possible, you know what I mean.
(38:45):
Like if you're just sitting on the four oh five
in LA and you're like, I just don't want to
sit in traffic, Let's take the streets. And instead of
taking the scenic route, and you're like, all right, let's
let's go to pH you know, let's go the long way.
They're like, I'm gonna take this scenic route. And it's
the worst. It's the worst idea ever. It's the worst
(39:06):
streets that it doesn't save you any time. The stoplights
are backed up like crazy. That's basically what the cowboys
are doing with this whole negotiation. It's the scenic route
that doesn't help at all. It actually delayed you an
hour longer on your commute, and it was much more tedious, annoying,
(39:27):
and just cost you that much more energy. That's where
they are, That's where they seem to always be. But
it's another chapter in the book of what should have
been avoided. But seldomly is. That's the cowboys, man, that's
how they get down again. They did this with CD LAMB,
with Dak Prescott, Ezekiel Elliott, Zach Zach Martin, Like they
(39:50):
just drag it out and then give them huge money.
And you're like that that was pretty dumb. That was
dumb right there, and the cowboys are like, yeah, maybe,
but it's kind of fun right and we're like, no,
it is that fun at all. It was really stupid.
It's actually what it was
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Oh what is going on? Welcome in here. We got
all kinds of stuff going on. We got sex toys
flying on courts and the WNBA still we have we
have Malon Militia, a knockdown, drag out fight that is
brewing between myself and Justin Cooper that will come your
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way throughout the show this morning. And also we got ball, man,
We got ball all over the place. It's a month away,
and we get the NFL even shorter for college football.
All kinds of stuff going on when it comes to ball.
Of course, rational thinking human beings consider ball to be football.
(01:15):
So that's where we start right here. We start with
I was thinking about this with Bears quarterback Caleb Williams. Okay,
so there was a video floating around of Caleb Williams
trying to throw a football into a net. Okay, so
they had like these three openings in the net, and
(01:35):
you're trying to hit each opening, right. It kind of
if you have a shorter like a slot receiver, that's
the shorter one. Then there's like a medium one. Then
there's like a taller one if you have dk Metcalf
or someone to throw to like that, you know, so
it's like small medium in large. So he's trying to
throw the ball through the net and he's missing, and
then he's missing again. Then he misses one more time,
(01:57):
and then he's frustrated. And now all of a sudden,
this is a thing. People are like, Oh, I don't
know about this guy. Here we go again, Caleb Williams. No, no, no,
there's actually a tweet so Scott Barrett, he covers fantasy football,
and he tweeted it caught my attention. He tweeted, My
(02:17):
uncle just texted me this told you that nail polish
was a red flag. Like there are people that think
these things, like realistically think these things. And so I
started thinking about Caleb Williams, and I thought about it
from more of like a bigger level, more of like
a league wide level. Because Caleb Williams is incredibly scrutinized.
(02:43):
Right He's under the microscope. We're breaking down him throwing
a ball into a net, and this is a thing.
It's ridiculous. But the question becomes when you expand it
beyond Caleb Williams. Is Caleb Williams the most scrutinized NFL
(03:03):
quarterback right now? Is he at the top of the list?
And so I started thinking about quarterbacks around the league.
Who's on the short list as one of the most
scrutinized quarterbacks in the league right now? So I've got
a few guys on my list. Guys are more than
willing to participate. Are more than welcome, I should say,
(03:23):
I don't know if you're willing, we'll find out, but
you're more than welcome to participate. So on my short
list of most scrutinized NFL quarterbacks, let's define that first.
We just pick on them at every everything they do.
It's like the Police song. It's like when Sting said this,
(03:44):
that's right, We'll be watching everything you every little thing
you do. We're gonna be all over it. We're gonna
be scrutinizing it. We might make a bigger deal than
there needs to be made about it. But you better
believe we'll be watching everything and we might react to
ninety five percent of those things. Right, So scrutinized, meaning
(04:05):
that under the microscope, Dak Prescott has to be on
the short list. He's the quarterback of America's team and
he hasn't had postseason success. Okay, so we follow everything
Dak Prescott does, and he was banged up last year,
only played eight games, But if he's behind center the
(04:25):
whole season, long rest assured, he is going to be
incredibly scrutinized. Someone else that's still on this list. You
have to include Brock Purty, the Niners QB. Now, I've
said many times, the Purty Police. They are everywhere, Okay,
the people, the defenders of Brock Purty. If you say
(04:49):
anything halfway critical about their guy, Brock Purty, they will
be lurking and just itching to make a citizen's arrest
if you slip up and say anything that's a little
bit too critical of their guy, Brock Purty. So there's
this back and forth thing with Brock Purdy and I don't.
The weird thing is, I don't think many people just
(05:11):
flat out trash the guy. I think the most common
take of brock Purty is he's pretty good but and
that's where we part. That's the fork in the road.
But not a difference maker in terms of once you
pay him huge money, he's able to compensate for the
deficiencies of the roster. Look, that's where the debate where
(05:34):
it lands.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Right there.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I don't believe he is a difference maker. Now they
have to cut corners, they have to let some guys go,
They've lost a lot of talent, and I'm supposed to
sit here and expect brock Purty to take him to
the promised Land when he doesn't have as good of
a supporting cast. I just don't believe it. But because
of that back and forth, that discussion where I say
(05:56):
that and some other people think that and say that,
it's met with these who think he can do no
wrong and he's short changed and he's undersold, and he's
not given his flowers and YadA ya. It goes back
and forth. So he is incredibly scrutinized. I would say
a couple other quarterbacks on the short list of most
scrutinized right now and heading into this season, kind of
(06:17):
like where it stands right now and where I see
it going this season, you'd have to include I believe
Justin Herbert and Trevor Lawrence. Now for the reasons why.
Justin Herbert, He's had a lot of regular season success,
just in that playoff wins, and there are a lot
of people that hammer him for that, and justifiably, so
(06:39):
you gotta step up in the postseason. You gotta produce,
you gotta win games. Trevor Lawrence, he was supposed to
be the best prospect since Andrew Luck number one overall pick.
I thought he was going to be a baller. He
has not been a baller or anything close to that
while he's been in the NFL. And it's go time now.
(07:02):
Now he's got Leam Cohen as a competent head coach,
at least a competent offensive mind. Brian Thomas Junior had
a fantastic rookie season as a wide receiver. Now he
gets Travis Hunter. It's like the excuses are over. It's
go time. But everything that Trevor Lawrence does, especially if
he's not performing to the level that we thought he
(07:24):
would reach, especially at this point. He gets hammered for that,
and again rightfully so. But he's scrutinized heavily, and I
would argue as he should be. He's a former number
one overall pick. We we're like best prospects since Andrew
Luck and he hasn't come close to living up to that.
I would also include in these are more like the
(07:44):
honorable mentioned guys. Two more on my list of most scrutinized,
and we'll whittle it down to the most scrutinized quarterback
in the league right now. I would mention Aaron Rodgers
as kind of like an honorable mentioned guy. He's gonna
be scrutinized quite a bit. And I would say he's
more like the Jerry Jones of athletes, meaning he finds
(08:08):
a way to keep himself in the spotlight. Maybe it's
a hit on the Pat McAfee show, or he says
something the spotlight. He's like, oh wait, the spotlight's going
away from me. Let's change that. Let's put right back
on me, right back on number twelve, Right back on
Aaron Rodgers. All right, So, like we're going to be
fixated on what Aaron Rodgers does and doesn't do this season.
(08:33):
I don't think it's gonna be, you know, top of
the league scrutiny because we don't realistically think the Steelers
are going to challenge to win a Super Bowl. Right, So,
if we had those sky high expectations and he's underperforming
(08:54):
or living up to them, like, he's gonna be scrutinized
and talk about, like talked about like crazy. But because
we don't, I don't really think that. I think that's
gonna you know, lower the scrutiny just a little bit.
But he's still gonna be one of those guys that
were fixated on. And I would also say another honorable mention.
I would say Lamar Jackson. Now this is primarily because
(09:18):
of the playoffs. I don't think he's a highly scrutinized
player in the regular season because, look, Lamar produces. Lamar
has been incredibly productive. He's a two time MVP. I
think he should have been a three time MVP. I
thought his season was that special last year, and so
what's there to say? What's there to scrutinize with Lamar
(09:38):
in the regular season? He's productive, He's a team guy, right,
like I love Lamar in the regular season. My only
beef with Lamar is he wets himself time and time
again in the playoffs. And so that's why I say
he's honorable mention. There's not a whole lot of scrutiny
in the regular season because he wins a ton, he's
highly productive. What's there to pick on? But that debate
(10:02):
rolls around when the playoffs git here. So of these
guys at least on my list, and hey, you're more
than welcome to compare notes with me. If you have
anybody else that I didn't mention and you want to
make the argument for the most scrutinized guy, feel free.
So of these guys that I have, whittle it down
to five guys most scrutinized short list, So I would
(10:23):
have Caleb Williams, Dak Prescott, brock Perdy, Justin Herbert, and
Trevor Lawrence. Of those guys, who's the most scrutinized guy,
you know who it is right now? It is Caleb Williams.
Caleb Williams is the most scrutinized NFL quarterback right now. Again,
(10:44):
we're breaking down a video of him throwing footballs into
a net, as if that matters at all. There's a
follow up video where he's just he's making each throw
just money into the same right on the money, right
on the money, right on the money. Perfect. No one cares.
(11:05):
It's all about the one video where he missed a
few and then he was upset about it. It's insane,
right Like it goes back to his college days where
he cried in his mother's arms after they walked lost
to I think it was Washington. It was this emotional
back and forth game. You know they're not gonna make
it to the National Championship Games, emotional moment. He cried,
(11:26):
big deal, guy cares and he paints his fingernails, as
if that matters at all. This is insane to me.
This is like Andy Dalton territory. You're gonna be like,
what what does that mean? So when Andy Dalton was
coming out of TCU, I didn't realize this was a thing.
There are people who will throw it out there where
(11:47):
they're like, well, you know, we haven't had a whole
lot of ginger quarterbacks that have had success in this league, right,
Like Andy Dalton has red hair, and so people are like,
whoa I you know, I can't buy Andy Dalton because
of the red that to me is in a similar
category as Caleb Williams painting his fingernails. I don't think
(12:08):
it matters at all, but there are many people who do.
And that's the thing that is the ultimate sign of
being overly scrutinized, when people point to that as if
it matters, as if it's like, oh, yeah, I told
you this guy is not gonna live up to being
a number one overall draft pick. I mean, he cried
(12:30):
in his mother's arms, he paints his fingernails. Look at
this throwing the ball into the net video. See there
you go. Three things. No, that's just being overly scrutinized.
And when he was such a lightning rod for opinions
right like he was polarizing. Everybody had an opinion on
Caleb Williams at USC and that's just trickled into Caleb
Williams in the NFL. And I think that some of
(12:54):
this is his fault. This is story that went was
a couple of months ago right where seth Wickers. He's
got a book coming out here fairly soon talking about quarterbacks.
He had some juicy details in the book there was
some excerpts that were released that we're talking about Caleb
Williams didn't initially want to be drafted by the Bears,
(13:15):
and it was Caleb and his inner circle, Caleb's dad.
They're just giving quotes to Seth Wickersham like yeah, didn't
really want to go there, and it's like, what what
are you guys doing? Why would you say this? This
is something you say years down the road after a
lot of success in the NFL, either your team wins
(13:35):
a ton of games, you produce, you put up all
these numbers, a lot of success, and then it's like, oh, yeah,
by the way, initially I didn't even want to be
drafted by the Bears. And it's just like a fun
fact at that point, like really, no kidding, you didn't
want to go there, not after a rookie year where
you struggle. That's a terrible idea. So I think that
(13:56):
he's done himself a disservice by being a little bit
too lippy, because some people do that, they overshare. You know,
we're in the day of day and age of Hey,
I just ate a ham sandwich for you know, lunch,
and we're like cool, No one cares it's over sharing.
That was Caleb Williams over sharing moment right there. So
sometimes he adds to the scrutiny that's already sky high.
(14:20):
I do. I think he's the most scrutinized NFL quarterback
right now. I think it's Caleb Williams. Here's the question
I would ask, what other quarterback has been scrutinized as
heavily for something as dumb as Caleb Williams. What quarterback
has been scrutinized as much for Caleb Williams missing a
(14:42):
couple of throws into a net and then being upset
about it. Who's the guy? It doesn't exist? Right's not
there in the NFL. We aren't picking on another quarterback
quite as much. He is the most scrutinized guy. That'd
be my my argument for Caleb Williams.
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You know what I mean?
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It's something off the top of you. Here is there
one that comes to your mind, Cooper Lorena that you say,
I know every single line of this song fer Delicious? Okay,
that's the one. All right, Sure you think you know
every single line, single word? Okay, Coop, you I swear
if you go with Tool again, man.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Well, yes, I mean obviously there's plenty of Tool songs.
I'd say, uh, almost every song on uh the oh
my god, I'm blanking on the album.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Name but the.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Eminem's album, not the Marshall Mathers LP, but the one
that came out in like two thousand.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Why am I blanking on the name of it, No,
the one before that.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
The Closet one, Yes, Why why am I the Marshall
Mathers LP No No, no, the Slim Shady lp No, the.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Eminem Show.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Oh okay, so you know that one?
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Like Front and Back, I'm like, plenty of songs on
that album.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I would know all the lyrics to.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
All of them.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, man, I just I don't know. I just think
about that with Well, I thought about that song with
Will Smith, and then I thought about you know, like
the Fresh Prince of bel Air, and I probably know
most of that one still is just as stuck in
my brain, you know. But every now and then you'll
see someone do karaoke and they think they know the
(17:26):
song and they get up there and they know like
twenty five percent of the song.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
You know, different when the pressure is on you too.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, that's true. That's true. But especially for rap songs, Coop, Like,
there are so many lyrics in a rap song where
there's there's not one line where you're like, oh shoot,
I forgot that one, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I'm pretty sure I could do cleaning out my Closet.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Uh, we should do that? Can we play it? And
you just say what he says.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Let me pull up my closet song.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Hold on, Oh yeah's it song. Let's try it. Let's
see if you really do know this or not?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Coop, I don't want to do this.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Come on, We're not gonna use this against you. That
wouldn't be like I think you. I think you got
a fighting chance. But you know, I'm skeptical. There are
just so many lyrics, and you got to know them
on time. You know, it's not easy.
Speaker 9 (18:27):
Are you guys ready?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
We're ready? You're ready, Coop? That's the question. You You
don't have to do your eminem impression. You have to
say it.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
You know, where's my snare? I've got no snare on
my headphones? Headphone there.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I didn't know you were gonna get that right too. Man,
you're on top of it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Have you ever been hated or discriminated against?
Speaker 10 (19:07):
I have.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
I've been protested and demonstrated against picket signs for my
wicked rhymes.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Look at the signs. Sick of the mind. Off the
mother kid that's behind all this commotion.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
The emotion run deepest oceans, exploding tempers, flamoring from parents.
Just blow them off and keep going, not taking nothing
from no one, give them how long and some breathing,
keep kicking nass in the morning and taking names in
the evening. The taste of sour is vinegar in they mouth.
So they can trigger me, but you'll never figure me out.
Look at me now, I bet you're probably sick of me. Now,
(19:39):
ain't your mama. I'm gonna make you look so ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Now?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Pretty good? Pretty good? Okay, all right, all right, vere
right there.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah, and one part I just ran out of breath.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I don't blame you, dude. Yeah, Like, so you're gonna
do like the really hard part of rap. God you
know where he's doing.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah, No, I can't. I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Good luck. That's pretty good, man. There's just I'm just
saying a lot of lyrics, a lot of stuff, like
a lot of opportunities to forget a line or a word.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
That's pretty good, Coop. I think you're nicely done.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah, man, I'm glad I remembered the lyrics.
Speaker 9 (20:21):
Especially on the spot like that ten out of ten, Coop,
because like.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Metallica is sort of like our common ground, right, Coop.
A lot of it, And I'm telling you there are
a lot of songs that you know, I would think
I would know every lyric, and I guarantee you that's wrong.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Oh yeah, same for me with with Metallica too, and
I guarantee you there are certain songs where I think
I know the lyric and that's not the lyric at all.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, I'm like, I'm singing something completely wrong.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
It happens a lot. Well, you know me, I'm a
metal guy primarily, not only, not solely, but primarily. And
you know, I'll be on Spotify and every now and
then I'll just click on the lyrics and I'll like
follow them along and I'm like, hold, I didn't I
was I was wrong this whole time. I've listened to
that song hundreds of times and I never bothered to
(21:14):
just check if I was right or not. And I
was saying something that was wrong the whole time. Yeah,
welcome to metal. You know who knew that could happen?
Speaker 4 (21:22):
But yeah, I like that.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Well, so what's the next one, Lorrainer? What was the
song that you mentioned? We carry yoking? That one too? Delicious?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Yeah, I don't know if the world needs come on,
what are we waiting for here?
Speaker 10 (21:39):
No? Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Hows man tables have turned. Yeah, there's not as much
uh you know fire for this experiment. Huh, Loraina, No,
well maybe a little bit later. I just don't want
I don't want you to be practicing, and you know
I'll be back, Coop. I got to run in the
bathroom real fast and you're just practicing.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Okay, hold on, I'll just I'll just do it.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Hold on, okay, all right, all right, very good.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
This was like middle school days for me, like out
on the school yarding this.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I want to hear, you know, cleaning up my closet
the karaoke version next time you're on stage, Coop. That
was very well done. Oh this scares me? Are there
a lot of cuss words in this one?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Lorena?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 9 (22:37):
Hold on, this is a horrible version of delicious.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Okay, you got to be in your zone here. It's
not going to work.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
She already got a hint on the first couple of lyrics.
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (22:45):
No, no, his part is not my part al right,
that's right, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
So you don't know every lyric to the song.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Just just Fergies, Yeah, you know Fergie's that's.
Speaker 9 (23:00):
The part, right, Okay, listen, y'all, Chris, this is don't
be slicious for delicious definition.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Make them boys go local. They just so they get
them plashes from my photo.
Speaker 9 (23:16):
You can see me.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
You kiss please me. I'm easy, scy I got reasons why.
Speaker 9 (23:21):
Some boys just come and go like seasons for delicious.
Look at this, you sin if you are suspicious, all
that is fictitious. I'll blow kisses. That puts them boys
on rock rock and they be lying down the block
just to watch what I got.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, look at the talent on this show. My gosh.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
Technically I technically did mess up on the first part
because I started singing the second verse instead of the
first one.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
But they're both great.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Guys are so underpaid until it gets to the fast
part even more impressive. Yeah, I want to hear that.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
The round always looking me up and down. Look at him.
I just want to say you now, I am trying
to round up drum a little mama. I don't want
to take a man, and I know I'm coming off
just a little bit conceited, and I keep on repeating
how the boys want to eat up. But I'm trying
to tell that it can't be treated like clientele because
they say she delicious vicious.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It made me think of the part in the movie
where the Miller's you know, that comedy with Jason Zakis.
Speaker 9 (24:22):
And they like pay people to be his family.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
So they can Yeah, yeah, right, yes, the border. But
the boy in like the fake family knows waterfalls like
way too much, and everyone's looking at him like, what
the hell does he know all all these lyrics, you
know what I mean? Yeah, that's what it made me
think of. But very nicely done. Wow, I think it's
only fair. It's your turn. Yeah, I throw on some
(24:48):
Lamb of God before me real fast. That's the thing,
because it won't sound right if I'm just like literally
saying because I can't. I can't do Coop's metal voice.
Like Coop he greets me every time, and you can
attest to this lorrena whenever I chime in right like
I connect for the fill in shift, and Coop will
(25:11):
just be like, what in this metal voice? And I'm like,
it's perfect, Coop. You need to be on stage somewhere, man,
that is so metal right there. I like, I can't
sing like that. I can't do that, like from the
throat type stuff. I can't yell like that.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
I don't know how long I would be able to
do it for Like you know, I say, I say
what up?
Speaker 8 (25:30):
But yeah, I don't job that. Yeah, I don't know,
yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
But the man, metal is a different it's a different
ballgame right there. To keep up with those guys, I
couldn't do it. I could say the lyrics you know,
on time, but I couldn't. I couldn't do him in
a metal voice. Yeah, I don't know often, man, I
don't know a metal song off the top of my head.
(25:55):
I wouldn't know Ruin. I'll tell you right now, I
won't know all the lime of it. Ten. Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Man.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Let me think, let me let me look at Spotify,
let me look at something. Let me look at my
my Spotify list, and uh, I'm sure there are many songs.
I'm sure there's like some Metallica songs I would know
front and back.
Speaker 9 (26:20):
What about you got any Shakira songs you could do?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Front and back? Dua lipa for sure? There we go.
They're playing dua in the gym today. Lorena is very fun. Uh,
you know what, I shazammed it? It was let me see.
I'll tell you real quick. You know she's a very
tall woman. She is a very tall woman at a
skying five eight. That Shakira over there or that dual
(26:45):
leap over there.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Shakira is not a tall woman.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
How tall is Shakira?
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I think she's like five to one, isn't she? Wow?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
It's crazy, but no, they don't. Still they don't training season.
That was the duo lipa song that they played at
the gym today. Good song. I didn't know it by name.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I don't even think I know that song.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
You definitely know it, but you don't know it by name.
I guarantee you know this song, but I'm like, that's
the title of it. Had no idea. But yeah, I
couldn't do that one. Yeah, let me let me report
back to you. Okay, let me. I'm not gonna cheat.
This is a non cheating show. But I'll look for
(27:25):
a metal song and just kind of like recite the
lyrics if you will. Oh, I know, a good one
would be Ah Didtohead from Slayer. Because he's going so fast,
that'd be a good one. He's like here in nineteen
ninety four, things are different than before. Final just won't
be adorned. Real fast song. Okay, real good song. Yeah,
go with see if you can punch up a slayer dittohead. No,
(27:49):
he does drop an F bomb. I don't know if
there's a clean version of that. We can dump it
if needed. Okay, uh, yeah, no, that'd be a good one. Yeah,
let me know if you can find that one eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox. If you feel like
doing some karaoke on the fly, you know, we'll just
punch it up and have at it.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (28:08):
I can't see a clean version, but let's see what
the scott.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's okay, Yeah, break it up.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
We're good now now I don't know. Yeah, then we're
safe now for a little bit until the Yeah, until
the next person.
Speaker 10 (28:28):
Here's me.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
It's okay, let it go, Let it go. Finance was
a weirdore invictation to the game guns and played to
meet the fame every day more the same murder maya
man archy now or done legally? Mastermind your killings free,
unafraid of punishment. With the passive government, there's nothing for
you to regret. Tom's the best, okay to regret. Tom's
(28:59):
all high. You know, he's a high voice. Right, yeah,
but oh Slayer's got some great stuff. Good.
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Speaker 3 (29:10):
Okay, so why doesn't the NBA handle trade requests like
the NFL does. A trade request in the NFL is
mostly met with yeah, no, we're not trading you. A
trade request in the NBA is often met with Okay,
no problem, we'll get YadA here. For the most part,
(29:33):
that's how it goes. This trade request from Micah Parsons,
star pass rusher from the Dallas Cowboys, he had this
long post on X and went into great detail of Hey,
you know, my dad and I grew up Cowboy fans.
Unfortunately I don't want to be here any longer. YadA, YadA.
(29:56):
Went into great detail, and some of it makes a
lot of sense where Jerry Jones has made some statements
publicly where it's just it's just a stupid way to
approach things. When he's talking about, you know, hey, Michael Parsons,
he missed six games last season, which wasn't even true.
He missed four games last season, and Mike Hah took
(30:17):
exception to that. So Jerry Jones has done a terrible
job handling this situation, and so I can completely understand
how a lot of it would rub Michael Parsons the
wrong way. I think it's recency biased more than anything.
I can understand you. You're ticked off, you're not getting
your money, get me out of here. Some of that
(30:37):
might be real. I think most of it is just
a negotiating tactic. That's your leverage. That's what you're trying
to do to get a deal done, try to get
it going. But the point, the first part of this
is the NFL. Oftentimes, so many times a trade request
(30:58):
has happened from the player and it's met with this.
Here's Jerry Jones. Gerry, are you considering trading Michael Parsons.
I'm not, no, not not really no, not thinking about that.
They're a little more from Jerry Jones.
Speaker 10 (31:11):
Don't lose in sleepover. So just to be one thing
I would say to our fan, don't lose in sleepover.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Okay, so as far as the negotiation goes, you know,
don't lose any sleep. He's basically saying, don't freak out,
like Michael Parsons is going somewhere else, like just don't
lose any sleep over there, so again not taking it seriously.
Here's the head coach, Brian Schottenheimer his thoughts on, uh,
does he expect Michael Parsons to be there?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I expect Michael to be here?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Okay, expects Michael even though he made this trade request
and went into great detail. Unfortunately, I don't want to
be here any longer, not buying any of it. Then
he's also detailing where he expects Mike gonna line up
this next season.
Speaker 10 (31:55):
We're still planning on moving Mike around and putting him
in all the spots that we see him and using
our fronts the way we want to see it.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
So like, there's no teeth to this trade request at all.
Has absolutely no teeth to it at all. And and
the Cowboys are not freaking out, like, oh, we better
get this deal done. We're not gonna have Micah Parsons.
They're like, yeah, settled down, everything's fine, don't lose any sleep.
(32:23):
We're not thinking of trading him. And shot he's like, actually,
you know, I'm thinking about where I'm gonna line him
up this next season. We'll have him a little bit
at you know, linebacker. We'll have him at rush and well,
you don't move him around a little bit. Here he's
game planning with Micah like the furthest thing from his
mind is Micah not being there. And so that to
(32:44):
me is it's a huge difference between the way the
NFL handles these things and the way the NBA does.
I don't know why more NBA teams don't do what
NFL teams do. A star NBA player is like, I
want to be traded. Why don't more teams just say no,
we're not trading you, Like you're too valuable to us.
(33:08):
We're not gonna get equal value, So no, that's not
on the table. Why don't they just say no? Now,
there have been times where star players will force their
way out, you know, and NBA teams buckle. I just
don't think NFL teams would buckle the same way that
NBA teams do. We've had stories where, you know, fat
(33:30):
James Harden, he was with Houston at the time, wanted
out and he was gaining all this weight and wasn't
even trying when he was out there on the court,
clearly forcing the rocket's hand, and they eventually buckled and
moved him. There was a Jimmy Butler has done this
a couple of times in Minnesota, most recently with Miami Heat.
(33:51):
We're just forcing his way out. He's getting kicked out
of practice. He's just he's forcing his way out. It's
going to happen, and the organization just buckles and does it.
I'm just surprised, and I wouldn't look at the two
leagues as completely polar opposites. I don't like, I don't
know why a team in the NBA wouldn't try to
(34:13):
do this and just say, hey, you know, we're not
moving him. The Cowboys haven't even said, well, we appreciate
where Mike's coming from, we get it. Blah blah blah.
They're just like, yeah, no, not on the table, not
thinking about trading him. And there's just no teeth to this.
You see Micah Parsons at practice, still in his number
(34:34):
eleven Cowboys Jersey. Nothing quite says I'm out of here,
like I'm still here. That's like saying I'm out of
this relationship. We are freaking done, and then you like
go to the cheesecake factory with that person later that night.
You know, it's not saying you're out of here. At all,
So he's not going anywhere. But you see this time
(34:55):
and time again in the NFL. You've seen it just
in the last year. My Garrett with the Browns, he
requested a trade and the next thing you know, he
got this huge new contract and he didn't go anywhere.
The team was like, no, we're not thinking about moving him.
Same thing with t Higgins with the Bengals. He requested
a trade and they gave him the money and he's
(35:19):
still a Cincinnati Bengal. I think it's gonna happen with
all three of these guys, Trey Hendrickson with the Bengals,
Terry McLaurin with the Commanders, and Micah Parsons with the Cowboys.
I think all three of those guys are going to
get extensions and are still going to play for their
current teams. I don't see any of them moving on
and going elsewhere. And you could argue that, you know,
(35:42):
when you think of the NBA situations where some players
request a trade, maybe some of them would be appeased
if they got this huge new contract extension and they're like,
you know what, I'll stay, I'm not gonna go elsewhere. Yeah. Maybe,
but you know, as well as I do. The batting
average right for trade requests from NBA players, especially stars,
(36:05):
it's a high batting average, they request a trade, they
typically get moved. And the NFL these teams are just like, yeah, no,
not like, listen to Jerry again.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Jerry, are you considering trading Michael Parsons?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I'm not just come right out and say I'm not
even thinking about it.
Speaker 10 (36:21):
No.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
And now the other part of this is this is
so clunky from the Cowboys. It's so unnecessary and just
so dumb. It's like, I feel like I'm losing time
and energy with this whole thing. And I'm not even
a Cowboys fan. This whole thing is just obnoxious. They're
gonna pay Micah, it's gonna be a huge contract, and
(36:46):
they're gonna look back and be like, what was all
that about? What money did you save? What time and
effort did you gain? Like, where's the gain here? By
dragging this out and then giving a huge contract extension
to Micah Parsons. This is so unnecessary. The drama of
(37:07):
this hole back and forth is so avoidable. And the Cowboys,
yet again, I don't know if it's just for headlines,
it's for clicks. It's for attention. They love dragging this
out and paying more money than they would have to
had they extended the player earlier. It's so dumb and
now we get Hey, is Mica going to be ready
(37:30):
for the first game of the year against the Eagles?
Listen to this. This was earlier, I think on Tuesday.
Check this out.
Speaker 10 (37:36):
Get any confident he will be on the stead against
the again, No, absolutely not. That has to a big
part of that is his decision. How about I know that.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Okay, we don't know if he's going to be in
uniform against the Eagles. All right, makes some sense. Now
this is the part. Listen to this answer. This is
the clunkiest, most random answer from Jerry Jones. Just listen,
sit back in and enjoy. Does he essentially need to
reach out to you?
Speaker 10 (38:03):
Again, y'all are getting in the h what's in the
mind and what's in the said? Uh, this is a
good time. He's a subject matter where of is what
it is is what it is, and uh uh we've
we'll work through it or we will not work through it.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Hmm.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Okay, right, it's a legitimate question like does he need
to reach out to you? And I don't know, Jerry
just thought that he was asking something else, I guess,
But yeah, I would expect this to get worked out.
This is just the scenic route that's totally unnecessary. This
is the worst scenic route possible, you know what I mean.
(38:45):
Like if you're just sitting on the four oh five
in LA and you're like, I just don't want to
sit in traffic, Let's take the streets. And instead of
taking the scenic route, and you're like, all right, let's
let's go to pH you know, let's go the long way.
They're like, I'm gonna take this scenic route. And it's
the worst. It's the worst idea ever. It's the worst
(39:06):
streets that it doesn't save you any time. The stoplights
are backed up like crazy. That's basically what the cowboys
are doing with this whole negotiation. It's the scenic route
that doesn't help at all. It actually delayed you an
hour longer on your commute, and it was much more tedious, annoying,
(39:27):
and just cost you that much more energy. That's where
they are, That's where they seem to always be. But
it's another chapter in the book of what should have
been avoided. But seldomly is. That's the cowboys, man, that's
how they get down again. They did this with CD LAMB,
with Dak Prescott, Ezekiel Elliott, Zach Zach Martin, Like they
(39:50):
just drag it out and then give them huge money.
And you're like that that was pretty dumb. That was
dumb right there, and the cowboys are like, yeah, maybe,
but it's kind of fun right and we're like, no,
it is that fun at all. It was really stupid.
It's actually what it was
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