August 12, 2025 • 49 mins
Big Ben talks about Jon Gruden winning his appeal in court aganist the NFL, Matthew Stafford not practicing despite being expected to return, Maller to the Third Degree, Maller's Mountain of Money: Casey Affleck Edition, and more!
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But we do the show today. We have to worry
about the show right now. And the show right now
is this. We react to this? What is this? If
you did not hear, maybe not, maybe you're not following
the Nevada court system. But it turns out that a
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Nevada court has cleared the way for a lawsuit that
goes back not one, not two, not three, but four years,
go back to the year twenty twenty one. A lot
of craziness, a lot of people wearing masks and not
going out and weird stuff going on. But in twenty
twenty one, there was a lawsuit filed by John Gruden.
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Now you know that is that's an old NFL coach,
John Gruden, he coached the Raiders. Yeah, so John Gruden
file lawsuit. Well, a court Nevada has announced that that
lawsuit now can proceed against the National Football League and
Commissioner Roger the Dodger, Goodell Roger, the Dodger, who normally
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dodges these type of lawsuits. Now, that suit alleged that
a malicious and orchestrated campaign was used by the NFL
to destroy John Gruden's career. You might remember the NFL
famously strategically leaking all the emails that he had sent,
including the things that hit all the big ones, racism,
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misogynistic activity, homophobic commons, the big three right there by
John Gruden and old emails that were strategically leaked by
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
That's the claim.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So the Nevada Supreme Court, that's right, the Nevada Supreme
Court did they cover area fifty one. Also, they ruled
five to two, what even close? Five to two was
the ruling, and they said that the arbitration clause in
the NFL Constitution is let's just say non kosher, that's
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my term for it. But it does not apply to
John Gruden. They claimed as a former employee. That Gruden
was not an employee of the NFL at the time
the emails were sent. There for he is not under
the bylaws of the NFL. Now Gruden his lawyers react
to the NFL. Their lawyers, they declined comment on this
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particular rule.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
He did not comment. Did not comment.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
John Gruden's lawyer say that this will help quote hold
the NFL accountable. Okay, so let us discuss the question
for the esteem panel.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
John Gruden. Certainly this is a win.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Whether he wins the final battle, this is a win
at this point for John Gruden. He wins this round.
John Gruden winning this round against the NF fell in court.
What are your thoughts on these latest developments the Supreme
Court of Nevada siding against against the NFL and in
favor of John Gruden. So I've got the Jenga Tower, Morgan, Spurlock,
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and cosplay, and we will combine all of these things
together and put a billboard up that says who hurt you?
Because every time I drive one by one of those,
I just want to laugh.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I just laugh. I just truckle.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I do uh anyway, so my first thought on this
and the latest developments is the plot thickens.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Do do do do Do Do Do Do do do doo?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Uh, it's finger Byting time. It's finger Byton time for
the NFL. Now, I did send some correspondence out to
people that work in that world. They don't seem too concerned.
They don't seem too concerned. It's that hubris of the
NFL and like, Wow, we'll ultimately win this. It's it's
just going to delay the inevitable. So I would argue,
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though there is some finger biting going on because you
don't know what you don't know, and for right now,
with worry about right now, this is a seismic shift
the NFL was not counting on to the world order
of the National Football League. John Gruden, the guy who
they tried to have disappear from the face of the earth,
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is back. Yeah, and he's got a for now, a
wrecking ball, a wrecking ball in his hand. It's like
a Hollywood special, Worlds Collide, World's Collide. You got the
little guy, the disgraced former hero John Gruden, who comes
back from the dead, comes back from the dead, and
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now now he's got the villain, big, big football, big
NFL on the ropes. It's if you combine like Rocky
and then you're throw in some sopranos in there.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
It's got a little bit of that, a little bit
of that.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Roger Goodell is in danger of getting the bitter taste
of his own medicine. Like the NFL tried to erase
John Gruden and now Goodell. You think there's anything in
his emails? You think Goodell sent any text messages that
might be considered I don't know, racist or misogynistic or
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homophobic anywhere along the way. I'm just asking, I don't know,
maybe not. He's perfect, He's the archangel, he would have
never done anything like that at all. The reason I
bring that up is because the discovery phase will.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Be a hum dinger. A humdinger.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Most knowledgeable people who have looked at the case will
tell you that is more likely than not, based on
the prepondence of the evidence that the NFL leaked to
hand picked, hand picked friends of the NFL that are
in that New York bubble, the Wall Street Journal and
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the New York Times, the emails. Now, now Gruden gets
to go into discovery at this point, this is where
we are. He's gonna go in discovery and see what
skeletons are he can find in the closets at the NFL.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And they have really big walk in closets, I mean massive,
And the whole wing of the house is a closet
and they man, is that a big closet.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
They can go in there and snoop around. And so
at this point, Gruden not just knocking on the door.
He's not knocking on the door. He's got the keys
and he's gonna he's gonna have all the lights on,
turn them all on, go through everything. And it's not
just about John Gruden and some dirty emails. This is
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about the entire power structure of the NFL. And that's
why this is so fascinating. This f's everything up. They
for years have had a choke hold on anyone that
dares fight them. And this is a look behind the curtain,
if it goes the way it's going right now, where
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John Gruden can reveal a lot of warts, a lot
of interesting imperfections in the NFL world. And so the
Nevada Supreme Court, in so many words I'll sum it up,
told the NFL you cannot be both the judge and
the jury. That's essentially what they said. That's how I
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interpret it. You can't have your sock puppet Commissioner Roger
Goodell arbitrate a case where he's one of the defendants
in the case. Like, that's not how you do this here.
And it's so simple, yet it is so beautiful at
the same time. I don't know what your position is.
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My position is. It's simple, it's logical, and it's beautiful.
It's kind of like in some shady neighborhood boxing match
and you find out that you're watching the boxing match
and it just turns out that the referee in the
boxing match happens to be the uncle of the fighter
who won the boxing match, Like.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Just a coincidence, you know. It's just a weird thing.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
So the league's very bedrock, the very bedrock of the
NFL is built on this, and so they do whatever
they want whenever they want in NFL circles.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And if you don't like it and you want to
go to.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Court and all that stuff, you can take it to
their little kangaroo court and they always win.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
They always win. It's like going to Moscow and suing
the government in Russia. Okay, you can do that. You're
not going to win. You're not going to win.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And so now the whole wobbly Jenga tower, the whole
giant Jenga tower, is shaking.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
A little bit. It's shaking a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Right Gruden has for now because of this Supreme Court
in Nevada, he has kicked one of the main legs
of the Jenga tower and he's kind of kicked it
down a little bit. So the NFL is essentially a
mob family, right, I mean, in so many words my
understanding of what the old mob was. And it's still
mobs around and all that, but essentially the mob, right,
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they do things, but they don't do things by the book,
and they've got their own book there. And the great
Brent Musburger Hall of Fame broadcaster, Brent musburg you're looking live,
Brent Musburger said of John Gruden. He was the Raider
radio play by play guy at the time all this
went down, And Musburger said, of John Gruden's removal as
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the Raiders coach, he called it. This is Brent Musburger,
a guy who worked in the NFL since like the sixties,
he said, professional hit job. That's Brent Musburger. Hall of
Famer Brent Musburger said the NFL took down John Gruden
on a professional hit job by a paid assassin. Is
how Musburger said it. They didn't use the usual media goombas. Now,
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the usual media goomba a state sponsored NFL media, the
network the NFL gets sold to ESPN or anyone works
at the ESPN ors in the tank for the NFL.
So instead, as we mentioned, they went to the Wall
Street Journal, they went to the New York Times. That's
where they went to. And so now the tables have turned.
So they've turned, and the NFL peeps, we would imagine
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we're gonna start singing like canaries some of the people
involved in this if it gets to the discovery phase,
because emails will get exposed and text messages and they're
going to try to do the old cya cover your ass,
and that's what everyone does now.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Page two.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So where where does the NFL go now to avoid
publicly being pansd publicly being panted by John Gruden in
the discovery phase of a court case? So what does
the NFL do here? So they have to get out
the manny and the petty. They have to give the
manny and the petty descotus. That is where this is
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going Next. The NFL will file a formal appeal, which
means lawyers will get some more money. They're on retainer anyway.
So the NFL is gonna file a formal petition I guess,
not really appeal, but petition for appeal, which is an appeal,
but it's a petition for a pick. So they're gonna
file a petition to the United States Supreme Court, the
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highest court in the land.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
And if the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Does not take the case, and they don't take most cases,
they don't take most cases, all right, or if they
do take the case and they rule in favor of
John Gruden, meaning the NFL loses loser capitale l that
means it is on like don't keet calng we're talking
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about the discovery phase. So listen to the NFL. I
mentioned i'd put some feelers out and I just I got.
The early vibe I got was hubris. That's my word,
that not their word. But there's an arrogance that they're
gonna win in the Supreme Court and all that stuff.
The NFL is not stupid. They're not smart, but they're
not stupid. And they know that the discovery phase will.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Be a blood bath for them and if we get there,
and so they're gonna try to cut it off at
the pass if they have to. Now they assume they're
gonna win because they'll just do what everyone does in
these cases and a massage some politicians and that's how
it goes. And then at the other side of it,
the other option would be to work out of court
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settlement with John Gruden a big bag of cash. I'm
talking the late Morgan Spurlock and supersize me. I'm talking
John Gruden's lawyers cooking up what do you want, John?
You want thirty forty fifty million dollars whatever you want.
The NFL is gonna pay it. You know, it's a
tax for the NFL. They'll pay it.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And Gruden, he had said the quote that it keeps
coming up is he wants to burn the house down.
So he's going to tell them to shove it. You
would assume, right, I don't need your money. I gotta
know Gruden's rich. You paid way too much money to
do bad television and all that. So he's got a
lot of money. So if it's not about the money,
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it's about your reputation, it's about the principal. And he
was humiliated and all that stuff, and he wants his
pound a flash, And then what's the NFL going to do?
He can't settle. Gruden cannot settle, right, he can't do that.
The NFL made sure that he was radioactive. So what
Gruden could do is make Roger Goodell radioactive. There is
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a scenario where Gruden, this lawsuit goes forward, Goodell ends
up losing his job as the commissioner of the NFL.
That there's definitely some skeletons there somewhere if you dig
deep enough in those nice walking closets, and you can
get rid of Roger Goodell. And so at this point,
John Gruden's got the league by the balls. He's got
him by the balls. And just like the man said
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a famous quote, what do you do when you've got
him by the balls? Wheez and you keep squeezing until
their hearts and minds follow.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
And there you go. You're on your way.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Good luck on that all right now, the last word
on this. We'll put the baby to bed on this.
John Gruden sor you will get your calls if you
want to react to it, and comments and all that.
But what kind last word, what kind of a package DELI? Oh,
what kind of a package deal could get John Gruden
who has said that he wants and again his quote was,
(16:29):
he wants to burn the house down? So what kind
of package deal could get John Gruden to take a
settlement from the NFL. As a distant relative of Nostre
Damis and friend of Nostradinas, he lives in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
He doesn't really react to the show very much anymore.
But I've done the investigative work. I've done the investigative work.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
So we're talking about Roger Goodell doing some cosplay in
this world. I believe in the multiverse, So in this
part of the multiverse, there's some cosplay and Roger Goodell
he addresses up as the old Hollywood star Marlon Brando
from back in the day in The Godfather and says,
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I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse John Gruden.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And it's about.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Gruden getting back in the game. The money's one thing.
Gruden not need the money. He's rich, He's made a
lot of money for a long time, so he's financially
set in that regard. In the multiverse, though, you get
not only the cartoon sized check for say fifty million dollars,
that's after taxes, after taxes, fifty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
You look around. You got Pete Carroll who's beginning his
first year with the team in Las Vegas, and he's
the oldest coach in the NFL. He clearly has lost it.
He brought Geno Smith in, who sucks as the Raiders quarterback.
So and we like Pete. Pet's you a nice guy
and all that, Pollyanna Pete. However, however, John Gruden, what's
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the one thing he would love to have more than anything?
The job that he had that he thought he was
gonna have for another seven or eight years. He signed
that ten year contract to be the coach of the Raiders.
So John Gruden, with that big greasy smile on his
face from ear to ear, cheshire cat smile, heads back
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to Sin City coach of the Raiders, and Goodell can
make it happen?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Is Avis do us a solid here. We'll give you
the money, We'll get you the Raider coaching job. In fact,
we'll get you whatever job you want in the NFL.
You what job do you want? It makes too much sense.
John Gruden returning as coach of the Raiders, And you
can see it now, the charismatic John Gruden saying bygones
be bygones. Back on the sidelines there with Mark Davis
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giving him a hug. They go out to dinner at PF.
Chang's and they get the orange chicken. They have a
great time. Remember Mark Davis said he never wanted to
get rid of John Gruden. In fact, if I remember
Carrefi doing the show and being in the watchdower at
that time. The first email dump happened on like a
Thursday or a Friday, the John Gruden email dump. Gruden
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coached the Raiders against the Chicago Bears, and then a
second a second wave of emails were dump because the
first one didn't work. So whoever at the NFL, in
my opinion, can't ssume me for my opinion. Some of
the NFL said, all right, this didn't work. We got
more email. Send those out to the other newspaper that
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we don't normally do business with, and you know, we'll
take down.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
And that worked. The second one worked. That's it.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
He was gone, but Mark Davis didn't want to get
rid of John Gruden. He was forced to, so he can.
Goodell can unforce it and bring him back and save
his own ass at the same time, because there's stuff
in those emails for Goodell that he'd be gone and
Gruden can stick it to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Is that here? I'm back? What are you gonna do now?
I'm back?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
And of course, and I don't think it's a pipe tree.
I don't believe it's a pipe uman. This is John
Gruden's ultimate revenge. So either you tear down the entire league,
get rid of Goodell and a bunch of other executives
because you release the emails, or you take NFL money
fifty million, let's say maybe it's more than that. They
are going low at fifty million, and you take the
money and then you get whatever NFL coachingw you want.
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Plate is filled filled with a quarterback drama, Orama, drama
oramo follow up to the follow up, follow up to
the follow up. Quarterback Matthew Stafford filling up the football
headlines yet again. The Super Bowl champion from a couple
of years ago. Great a super Bowl my lifetime, Rams Bangles.
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I don't I don't think anyone can disagree with that,
Sayway Stafford. If you didn't see this, maybe not because
you actually have a life. You have a job, you
have a family, have things you have to do, and
so you missed it. So Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford did
not did not practice on Monday after being you know,
the expectation was he was going to practice. Why was
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the expectation because the couch said it. So he was
supposed to take part in individual drills in his return
to practice, the oh my aching back. He has an
aggravated disc. Gotta say that carefully and slowly. Aggravated disc
in his back. Now, over the weekend, Sean McVay puffed
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his chest out, smugly and arrogantly and announced to the
media that he was coming back on Monday. He being
Matthew Stafford, and McVeigh had said, Seth had a quote
great workout, those were his words, not mine, felt good
on Saturday, and then he said he didn't feel good
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enough though to throw the football on Monday. The Rams
didn't think this is according to McVeigh. He said, quote,
the Rams didn't think practicing was the right thing to do,
based on how he was feeling, how he woke up feeling,
macveagy said. Now, instead, Stafford was spotted in his street clothes,
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like somebody for your favorite NBA players street clothes, Anthony
Davis players like that. So Stafford was in street close
during practice wall walking into a truck that was for rejuvenation.
They had a truck there that was parked next to
the Ram practice field. Some of this new age sciencey stuff.
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They essentially convinced the NFL teams, Hey, let's put a
truck there. And we'll put like some kind of weird
chambers in there and then it'll be like the Haunted House.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
But it'll it'll make the players better.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
All right. Anyway, let's discuss the question for the esteem panel,
which you are a part of. You're on the Esteem panel. Congratulations,
Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford did not did not practice, did
not practice despite his expected return. Now what does that
mean in the big picture?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
All right? What does that mean in the big picture?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
So I've got cucumber slices, Facebook Marketplace, and naked mole rats,
three things that have never ever been put together, but
they will be here for this monologue. And we're gonna
make some Mediterranean chicken. When we have some chicken swarma
and some rice and there there you go. All right,
So number one number So Matthew Stafford supposed to be
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the ring leader of the RAM circus, right, he's out there,
the ring leader. There, the guy that the Rams brought
in and they brought back. There was some talk. Stafford
went to Montana and was whined and dined by Tom Brady,
white white pants Brady there in Montana and decided to
go back to the Rams. And so he was brought
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in yet again as the ring master for the Rams
to ride the elephant at the circus under the big
top there and do the trap peez. Of course you
got to do that, the whole thing. And so there
he is the day he's supposed to get out there
and prove all the critics wrong and go out there
and practice, and he's in street clothes. Now, can you
play an NFL game in street clothes? I don't believe
you can. I don't think that's allowed. I don't think
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you can do it. So he's not practicing, not after
Sean McVeigh put his his name on it. He'd put
his name on it, you know, the guy who's the
puppeteer of the Rams told everyone he's coming back.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Are you critics? Are you you overnight gas bags? He's
coming back, you losers. Well, he didn't practice, didn't practice.
McVeigh said he was going to do individual drills. Stafford
didn't do it, didn't do it. He's not there. He
wasn't there. Instead, he walked into some restorative and rejuvenation chamber,
which sounds like something you'd be sentenced to by a court.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Uh, And I guess this is a.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Hyper barrack chamber that they brought in that truck. The
Rams had it there some outside third party. They had
a truck there. I'm sure they probably had like a
side hot tub in there somewhere. And Stafford went in
there with the towel. He had some cucumber slices and
there was a loofa so he could take a shower.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And he's done, get all soapy and all.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So Stafford is quickly you know I'm wrong on this,
quickly becoming the poulter Geist for the Rams. And they
haven't even gotten to the schedule yet, Like this is
a preview of coming attractions here, haunting the Rams. Like
this is not the the thing of a jig, right,
the thing of a jig or the watch you might
call it break, Because the thing of a jig or
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the watch you might call it break.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
And you can deal with that.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
We're talking about the back, okay, And now I'm pretty
sure you have one. I've got one. We all have one, right,
everyone listening has back. So the center of the universe
and the human body the back, oh my aching back.
Think about playing professional sports or just living life, like
everything you do, every movement you make in the case
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of a football player. You're talking about throwing a pass,
you're talking about taking a couple of steps, back handing
the ball to the running back. You're talking about sneezing,
you're talking about wiping your tukas your back is involved.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
There is movement in the back.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
And I've thrown my back out a few times over
the years, and every time I throw my back out,
I think, well, that's it, it'll never come back, and
eventually it does come back. But I'm not a professional athlete.
I'm a professional gas bag. It's slightly different, I'm told
in these parts. So think about back into it. There's
no frame bending, can't do it. Every movement hurts, you know.
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And so this is this is like the chassis on
the car cracking. Like everything you do is involved in
the back, right. This is not just a ding bumper,
it's the chassis like ding bumper, bumper. You can you know,
slap some tape on it and you know, take the
bumper off whatever. This is the chassis on the car.
Ranking that's where we are. He had an epidoral last week, Stafford,
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and so Sean McVay can say, well, this surgery, the
surgery hasn't been discussed. He can say that all he wants,
and I'm sure he will, but you don't talk about
rebuilding the engine. You don't talk about rebuilding the engine
there until you've got oil pouring out all over the driveway,
and then you're like, oh crap, we got a problem.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
The Rams, listen the Stafford trade. They won the trade.
The Lions lost the trade. The Rams won a super
Bowl with Matthew Stafford. They've been a consistent playoff team
with Matthew Stafford. Jared Goff is the same guy he
was with the Rams. He's mediocre. He chokes in big games.
That's Jared Goff. So the Rams won that trade. That's fine,
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and the Super Bowl has been a couple of years.
The Rams have a young, upstart defense they're excited about.
They think that's a defense that's good enough to get
to a super Bowl. But if you're honest right now
looking at Rams and and you've got your quarterback who's
currently being held together with duct tape and going into
hyperbaric chambers, and who knows what other stuff he's got
(30:11):
going on there trying to trying to keep the car
on the road, right, that's that's where we are. And
so you don't know what you don't know, and you
don't know when he's going to go kaboom and blow,
and you know, you don't know when the back is
going to say bye bye, I'm done. And every time
Stafford drops back, every time Sean McVay is on the
(30:33):
sidelines and he's saying, you know, prayers, oh father, you
know all that, the hail Mary's uh, you know, hoping
that he takes another snap after that.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Staff And so this is a tough spot.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
To be in for the Rams, and it's it's gonna
follow them because at some point I would imagine Stafford's
going to actually practice, doesn't matter does he practice one
day and then take three days off or four days off?
And then where were now? Page two to Arizona we go.
Why I like talking about bad teams. I love bad teams.
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And the Cardinals suck. There are some reports out in
recent days here that predicting they are predicting the Cardinals.
That's a bad football team. The Cardinals will trade Alligator
Arms Murray Kyler Murray before the twenty twenty seven season,
rather than offering him he yet another contract extension. Now
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Murray would be thirty. At that point, the Cardinals would
be trying to get something, anything in return. In terms
of draft I love they say draft capital.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I love that draft capital.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Okay, wonderful, all right, So thumbs up or thumbs down,
Thumbs up or thumbs down on Kyler Murray having a
short shelf life in Arizona.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
See what I did there, So I am going to
go thumbs up.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I'm going thumbs up on this. Uh Now, listen, the
clock is ticking. You can hear it if you listen closely,
that's the clock ticking.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Just like that.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
You can almost hear it. And we believe it's not
gonna be till twenty twenty seven. It's going to be
after this year. We believe it'll.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Be after this year.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
You do the math on that, there's like one year left,
and you know the contract and the guaranteed money, and
it was always complicated. If you want to move a player,
you can move a player. Arizona foolishly gave Kyler Murray
a massive contract, like they were buying the dream yacht.
They always wanted this yacht. They got the yacht. They
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thought they'd be cruising, not for a bruising. They thought
they'd be cruising to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
And right there at sunset, beautiful weather, and you're in
this yacht and you got the air, the ocean air
there and oh man, it's just amazing wind in their hair,
the whole thing champagne. And instead reality check, they thought
they were getting a yacht. They actually mistakenly they went
on Facebook Marketplace and they bought a dingy, not a yacht,
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not a yacht. They bought a dingy okay and a
little outboard motor.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Normal dingy outboard motor. There sputters after about ten minutes,
about ten minutes of use. It's sputters a little bit.
It's got expired registration. And they've got a captain for
the dinghy alligator arms who get seasick in calm water.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, that's that's what we got here.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
And so now, of course at Arizona, immediately had the
buyers were morse.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
We talked about this many times here.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
How bad was it? It was so bad. It was
so bad that they're likely awake right now. Executives like,
what did we do? Why did we do that? Why
didn't we just rent? Why did we buy? I don't understand,
quarterbacks in the NFL are kind of like cars. I'll
use the Annalygy're like they're Arizona financed their car. However,
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they realized it's got a four cylinder engine. And unfortunately
there's a speed governor that kicks in anything, you know,
anything sixty five miles an hour, so you can't go
past sixty five miles an hour. And I know when
I'm driving on the highway and I see one of
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those they're always company cars, and they say, well, this
vehicle is being monitored by GPS and will not go
over a certain I immediately zoom past that vehicle. That's
Kyler Murray. That's Kylmer.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Every year.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Keep in mind also seven to ten teams, seven to
ten teams every year trade in their car or quarterback
for a newer model. And looking ahead into my crystal ball,
would be someone that would be interested in Alligator Arms
Murray going forward after this upcoming twenty twenty five regular season.
(34:57):
So if you look in the crystal ball, you've got
the Petsburg Steelers, the ins Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Like one year and then he'll be gone.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
The Jets because Justin Fields blows the Giants because Russell.
Wilson sucks and Jackson darts. Probably not all that good.
The Dolphins, they'll need somebody. They'll get rid of the Brownies.
They always change quarterbacks every year, the Raiders because you
know Gino Smith come on. So the thing about the showroom,
(35:28):
it's always open. The quarterback showroom is always open. The
sales people, they are always smiling. They're always smiling. They
have some lemonade and some snacks you can get there.
And the Cardinals they're about to roll. It's not a
big ball, but they're gonna roll Kyler back onto the
lot there.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Kyler at this point's got about seventy thousand hard miles
hard miles, and it's a car that leads the race
after ten laps and then falls apart the rest of
the race. There there's a dent on that fender. If
you look, there's a little dent there on the fender,
and the check ego light on the dashboard is flashing
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check ego right there. And Kyler a guy who is allergic.
We've learned over the years he's allergic to watching film.
I don't like watching film either, but I do a
talk show. I don't have to watch him, and he
doesn't like standing in the pocket very long.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
We've learned about that.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Also allergic to looking over the offensive line unless you
get him an NFL branded step stool. Then he can
look over the offensive line. So you can a little NFL.
He got the NFL logo officially branded NFL and Cardinal
logo on the step school stool, and then he can
see over the offensive line and the extension. It's kind
of like the way I would describe it, it's like
buying a home gym for someone who is a couch potato,
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Like why.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Would you do it?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
And you realize you're like, well, that guy doesn't he
doesn't get off the couch. Why do we buy a
home gym that's just gonna collect furnit, you know, shirts
and stuff. It's gonna be over there and it's gonna
be like a laundry basket and that's it. So the
Cardinals will try to get rid of Kyler Murray at
the end of this year, not till twenty twenty seven.
I'm talking about the end of the twenty twenty five season,
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and that's the Yang they want. In terms of I
guess Kyler at this point was he where the mid
round draft pick. He's not that good and people have
I used to get pushed back when I would rip
Kyler early on. So you don't know what you're talking about.
And now everyone's in agreement. You know, it's it's not
much fun to talk about alligator armsmorried because everyone's agreed.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Sucks all right.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Now, final point to Philadelphia we go where the Eagles. Hey, gee,
el the Birds there Pro Bowl guard Landon Dickerson. We
don't talk about offensive linman unless A they're drafted right
for NFL draft. People get all horny for offensive lineman.
B they miss a block and the quarterback gets killed
(37:52):
or see they get hurt. That's this would be see,
So Landon Dickerson will undergo. They say it's a minor procedure.
Minor procedure. The Eagles guard on a meniscus injury to
his right knee. That's gonna happen in the coming days. Now. Dickerson,
who was considered one of the elite offensive linement in
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the NFL, he will be considered week to week, not
day to day. Week to week with the goal of
returning for the NFL season up the less than a
month away. On a sleepy Thursday night in early September.
It all begins, all regular season over they Eagles and
that Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
How many points of the Cowboys gonna lose by that game? Anyway?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
So left guard Landon Dickerson having surgery on his knee.
The Eagles are downplaying this. What is the level of
worry for the Eagles? So it's not zero a scale
of one to ten, it's not zero, it's not one.
I'm gonna beat a two. And the reason I'm going
(38:57):
to it is discomforting. However, it is Toleran Dickerson a
central part. The Eagles are not a passing team. They're
a running team. They don't throw the ball. They just
don't do it. They don't have a quarterback that can
throw the ball consistently down the field. So it's all
about Sequon Barkley and the pushy pushy with Jalen Hurts.
So minor knee surgery is still last I checked knee surgery,
(39:21):
all right. So once they cut you open. I learned
this from my grandfather, you know, as a little boy.
He said, no Ben, little Benny, little fat Benny. Once
they cut you open, it's not minor anymore. Now, regardless
of that, here's the thing I've learned from years opining
on sports behind these microphones. When it comes to offensive lineman,
(39:44):
they're not human. They're kind of like Adam Silver. They're
from somewhere else out in the cosmos. They're like the
last gladiators. Even in the NFL, even in the Mighty NFL.
Quarterbacks get a hangnail and they miss two weeks, they're out.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
See you later.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Wide receivers have a little twinge in their hammy and
they're worried it's gonna go whammy, and they go on
the injured reserve list and that's it.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Now.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
The offensive lineman a little different. See the offensive lineman.
They follow the Caveman medical plan.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
What is that.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I don't know what that is the Caveman medical plan,
which is rub some dirt on it. Just throw some
dirt on it, grunt a couple of times, then take
a couple of pharmacy grade ibuprofen and get back in
the middle. That is the Caveman medical plan of the NFL.
That's the way it is. And so they're like those
(40:40):
naked mole rats. I remember learning this years ago. The
naked mole rat has a freakish pain tolerance. Freakish pain
tolerance don't even have the same pain receptors that we
have the rest of us have, right They just they
can just get absolutely shred the naked mole rat and
(41:03):
they're not really bothered by anything. Normal person tears the
meniscus and hobbling around on crutches. This guy Dickerson, Uh,
he's a good old Southern boy from Hickory, North Carolina.
And so I imagine Landon Dickerson probably walking around right
now at the Eagles Complex there in Philadelphia, eating a
(41:25):
hogi from wah Wahs and just not really worried at all.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Just a nice hogy and good to go.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
And maybe he'll have lunch tomorrow with Jonathan over in
Delaware and they'll have a great time.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
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Speaker 3 (41:47):
This is one big Ben gets grailled all right.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
Now.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
A lot has been made about the Bengals slow starts
under Zach Taylor, and some of that has been attributed
to lack of participation in the preseason by since he starters. Well,
Joe started and did well last week. Do you think
the Bengals will avoid these slow.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Start this year.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
No, this is their thing. This is what they do.
They get off the bad start. They have a crappy defense,
so they won't stop anybody, and they're gonna have to
outscore the opponent. Now, the good news is they're playing
two Tomato Cans, so you should at least.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
When one of them.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
They're playing Cleveland and Jacksonville to start the year. They
suck so but it's not gonna because they played in
the preseason.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
It's they're not. The Bengals are a bad defensive team.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Next, reports now say that Trey Young is resigned to
finishing off his contract with the Atlanta Hawks and testing
free agency in twenty twenty six. However, the Hawks made
some moves in the offseason and the East isn't exactly daunting.
Do you think a playoff run could keep Young in Atlanta?
So this is all part of the master plan. The
Hawks are like, well, we don't know what we want
to do here, Well, Trey Young, everyone's slow playing this. Ultimately, though,
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Trey Young can get more money from the Atlanta Hawks,
so even though the Hawks also are pathetic. You go
where the money is, and there's more money in Atlanta,
so you'll remain there, and they're just gonna drag this
out to the very next Jags kicker Cam Little hit
his seventy yard field goal in the team's preseason debut
over the weekend would have been an NFL record, beating
out Justin Tucker by four yards, but it won't count. Ben,
(43:18):
do you think kickers will be giving a ton of
chances to erase Tucker from the record books?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Well, not because it's Tucker, but it's it's gonna have
to be right before the end of the game or
the end of halftime, although.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
It's not not because it's Tucker. No, I don't care
about to how we do. How many pass this edition? Hey,
I won the game, but gay unbelievable. I'm all.
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As Wageo markettestants for the game, we have some people
standing by here. John is in Paradise. Someone to assume
that's Nevada or all casinos are no California. Paradise, California.
Where's Paradise? Where's Paradise California?
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Where is that.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
North of Chico?
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Oh? When you think paradise, you think Chico, north of Chico.
That is paradise. Yeah, absolutely, yes, absolutely? All right, Well John,
welcome and let's see here. Now what are you up to?
You working? Are you just driving around randomly? What's going on?
Just left my girlfriend's house.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Oh look at that, that sounds like a booty called
to me late night fun there, you know, took care
of business, your big stud John, Right.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Come on, maybe maybe the exact opposite that way, chicked
out of the house at two in the morning.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Almost that sucks. That's all right, I understand, I got you.
Well it happens, so but we'll see. Now, John, would
you like to play with myself Ben as your partner
or coop a loop.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Moody one, then I'll play with you.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
That's how I played.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
I played with Eddie. We did good. If you really
want to make your girlfriend mad, you can play with me. Yeah, right,
hello John. Unfortunately Eddie is not available.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
He's not working here right now, so he's not we
I did invite Eddie to the Malor Meet and greet.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
I don't think he's gonna go. I said you can
come and hang out. And we have him, you know,
in Vegas, and I don't think he's gonna show up,
but I did invite him.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
All right, John, we'll partner uphold on a second. We
have Steve in the Bay Area. Hello Steve, quickly, Steve
pig Thicket. Well, Steve in the Bay Area, welcome out.
You want to play with Coop?
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Yes? Yeah, Coop quickly? All right, Coop quickly one of
the category. Hurry up?
Speaker 5 (45:50):
All right, this is the casey Affleck edition. We have
two hundred cigarettes Ocean's eleven. I'm still here in Manchester
by the Sea.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
John, what do you want? Quickly? I'm sure I'm still here. Steve,
what do you want? All right? Hold on, we'll get
to Malor's mount of Money. We'll get to it. We
will do it next.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
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Speaker 3 (46:16):
Now, Malor's Mountain of Money?
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Do you have what it takes to get to the top?
Probably not?
Speaker 3 (46:26):
And right to the game we go. We have John,
who's a little north of Chico and Paradise, California, teamed
up with me. He just had a disagreement with his girlfriend,
and so now he's calling sports radio and we have
Steve in the Bay Area. We don't know what Steve's
up to, but he's with Coop. So let's get to
the game right now. Here we go and it is
the Casey Affleck edition turned to fifty today. All right,
(46:48):
so you picked.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
I'm still here, Yes, John, These athletes have all all
been professional athletes for fifteen plus years.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
They're still playing. Are you ready? I'm going to be
all right, John, forty five seconds on the clock. We're
on our way go. Starting quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yes, Cory,
he won a Super Bowl. It was called the Elite
with the Ravens. He's the Browns quarterback right now.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Starting pitcher for the San Francisco Giants. Longtime Detroit Tiger
played for the cheating Astros. Yes, last name is like Romance.
He played for the Minnesota Timberwolves, the Miami Heat, the
Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
He's a forward white guy out of U C l
A U. Yes, that's right. A closer for the Angels,
he used to play with the Dodgers, played with the
Red Sox.
Speaker 6 (47:44):
All right, center for the ah You did hundred points.
You didn't get Wenley Jansen Jens. All right, Steve, we
have Manchester by the seed. These athletes are off from
Matt to choose. It's are you ready, Steve?
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I'm ready?
Speaker 3 (48:03):
All right, forty five seconds. Let's begin.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
Famous professional wrestler in movies, not the Rock. You can't
see him? No, all right, a professional wrestler. He's in movies,
but not the Rock. Yes, all right. This guy is
Terry Bradshaw's partner on the NFL on Fox. He was
a defensive end for the Raiders. Yes, this guy was
(48:27):
part of the Killer Bees in Houston. Not Craig Beegie
the other guy. Well say that the whole name. Yes,
this guy was a He led the Seahawks to the
Super Bowl in two thousand and five with yes, yes,
good job. This guy was a white guy on the
(48:48):
Bad Boy Piston?
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Was that? Loreen?
Speaker 3 (48:52):
I think it's funny. All right, we go next quickly, John,
what do you want? You want? Oceans eleven or two?
Order cigarettes? John? All right? These athletes were all known
to smoke. Forty five seconds were on our Way Center
for the nineteen eighties Lakers. He played for the Sacramento Kings.
He's got a beard. Was the GM of the Kings.
(49:14):
That is correct, manager of the Pirates. He was chained smoking.
Back in the eighties when he had Barry Bonds. He
managed the Detroit Tigers. Ben Che did not want that
we won the game. Another win you congratulations John, the
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But we do the show today. We have to worry
about the show right now. And the show right now
is this. We react to this? What is this? If
you did not hear, maybe not, maybe you're not following
the Nevada court system. But it turns out that a
(02:28):
Nevada court has cleared the way for a lawsuit that
goes back not one, not two, not three, but four years,
go back to the year twenty twenty one. A lot
of craziness, a lot of people wearing masks and not
going out and weird stuff going on. But in twenty
twenty one, there was a lawsuit filed by John Gruden.
(02:49):
Now you know that is that's an old NFL coach,
John Gruden, he coached the Raiders. Yeah, so John Gruden
file lawsuit. Well, a court Nevada has announced that that
lawsuit now can proceed against the National Football League and
Commissioner Roger the Dodger, Goodell Roger, the Dodger, who normally
(03:11):
dodges these type of lawsuits. Now, that suit alleged that
a malicious and orchestrated campaign was used by the NFL
to destroy John Gruden's career. You might remember the NFL
famously strategically leaking all the emails that he had sent,
including the things that hit all the big ones, racism,
(03:36):
misogynistic activity, homophobic commons, the big three right there by
John Gruden and old emails that were strategically leaked by
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
That's the claim.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So the Nevada Supreme Court, that's right, the Nevada Supreme
Court did they cover area fifty one. Also, they ruled
five to two, what even close? Five to two was
the ruling, and they said that the arbitration clause in
the NFL Constitution is let's just say non kosher, that's
(04:08):
my term for it. But it does not apply to
John Gruden. They claimed as a former employee. That Gruden
was not an employee of the NFL at the time
the emails were sent. There for he is not under
the bylaws of the NFL. Now Gruden his lawyers react
to the NFL. Their lawyers, they declined comment on this
(04:32):
particular rule.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
He did not comment. Did not comment.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
John Gruden's lawyer say that this will help quote hold
the NFL accountable. Okay, so let us discuss the question
for the esteem panel.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
John Gruden. Certainly this is a win.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Whether he wins the final battle, this is a win
at this point for John Gruden. He wins this round.
John Gruden winning this round against the NF fell in court.
What are your thoughts on these latest developments the Supreme
Court of Nevada siding against against the NFL and in
favor of John Gruden. So I've got the Jenga Tower, Morgan, Spurlock,
(05:16):
and cosplay, and we will combine all of these things
together and put a billboard up that says who hurt you?
Because every time I drive one by one of those,
I just want to laugh.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I just laugh. I just truckle.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I do uh anyway, so my first thought on this
and the latest developments is the plot thickens.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Do do do do Do Do Do Do do do doo?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Uh, it's finger Byting time. It's finger Byton time for
the NFL. Now, I did send some correspondence out to
people that work in that world. They don't seem too concerned.
They don't seem too concerned. It's that hubris of the
NFL and like, Wow, we'll ultimately win this. It's it's
just going to delay the inevitable. So I would argue,
(06:01):
though there is some finger biting going on because you
don't know what you don't know, and for right now,
with worry about right now, this is a seismic shift
the NFL was not counting on to the world order
of the National Football League. John Gruden, the guy who
they tried to have disappear from the face of the earth,
(06:24):
is back. Yeah, and he's got a for now, a
wrecking ball, a wrecking ball in his hand. It's like
a Hollywood special, Worlds Collide, World's Collide. You got the
little guy, the disgraced former hero John Gruden, who comes
back from the dead, comes back from the dead, and
(06:46):
now now he's got the villain, big, big football, big
NFL on the ropes. It's if you combine like Rocky
and then you're throw in some sopranos in there.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
It's got a little bit of that, a little bit
of that.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Roger Goodell is in danger of getting the bitter taste
of his own medicine. Like the NFL tried to erase
John Gruden and now Goodell. You think there's anything in
his emails? You think Goodell sent any text messages that
might be considered I don't know, racist or misogynistic or
(07:22):
homophobic anywhere along the way. I'm just asking, I don't know,
maybe not. He's perfect, He's the archangel, he would have
never done anything like that at all. The reason I
bring that up is because the discovery phase will.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Be a hum dinger. A humdinger.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Most knowledgeable people who have looked at the case will
tell you that is more likely than not, based on
the prepondence of the evidence that the NFL leaked to
hand picked, hand picked friends of the NFL that are
in that New York bubble, the Wall Street Journal and
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the New York Times, the emails. Now, now Gruden gets
to go into discovery at this point, this is where
we are. He's gonna go in discovery and see what
skeletons are he can find in the closets at the NFL.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And they have really big walk in closets, I mean massive,
And the whole wing of the house is a closet
and they man, is that a big closet.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
They can go in there and snoop around. And so
at this point, Gruden not just knocking on the door.
He's not knocking on the door. He's got the keys
and he's gonna he's gonna have all the lights on,
turn them all on, go through everything. And it's not
just about John Gruden and some dirty emails. This is
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about the entire power structure of the NFL. And that's
why this is so fascinating. This f's everything up. They
for years have had a choke hold on anyone that
dares fight them. And this is a look behind the curtain,
if it goes the way it's going right now, where
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John Gruden can reveal a lot of warts, a lot
of interesting imperfections in the NFL world. And so the
Nevada Supreme Court, in so many words I'll sum it up,
told the NFL you cannot be both the judge and
the jury. That's essentially what they said. That's how I
(09:28):
interpret it. You can't have your sock puppet Commissioner Roger
Goodell arbitrate a case where he's one of the defendants
in the case. Like, that's not how you do this here.
And it's so simple, yet it is so beautiful at
the same time. I don't know what your position is.
(09:49):
My position is. It's simple, it's logical, and it's beautiful.
It's kind of like in some shady neighborhood boxing match
and you find out that you're watching the boxing match
and it just turns out that the referee in the
boxing match happens to be the uncle of the fighter
who won the boxing match, Like.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Just a coincidence, you know. It's just a weird thing.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
So the league's very bedrock, the very bedrock of the
NFL is built on this, and so they do whatever
they want whenever they want in NFL circles.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And if you don't like it and you want to
go to.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Court and all that stuff, you can take it to
their little kangaroo court and they always win.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
They always win. It's like going to Moscow and suing
the government in Russia. Okay, you can do that. You're
not going to win. You're not going to win.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And so now the whole wobbly Jenga tower, the whole
giant Jenga tower, is shaking.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
A little bit. It's shaking a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Right Gruden has for now because of this Supreme Court
in Nevada, he has kicked one of the main legs
of the Jenga tower and he's kind of kicked it
down a little bit. So the NFL is essentially a
mob family, right, I mean, in so many words my
understanding of what the old mob was. And it's still
mobs around and all that, but essentially the mob, right,
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they do things, but they don't do things by the book,
and they've got their own book there. And the great
Brent Musburger Hall of Fame broadcaster, Brent musburg you're looking live,
Brent Musburger said of John Gruden. He was the Raider
radio play by play guy at the time all this
went down, And Musburger said, of John Gruden's removal as
(11:35):
the Raiders coach, he called it. This is Brent Musburger,
a guy who worked in the NFL since like the sixties,
he said, professional hit job. That's Brent Musburger. Hall of
Famer Brent Musburger said the NFL took down John Gruden
on a professional hit job by a paid assassin. Is
how Musburger said it. They didn't use the usual media goombas. Now,
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the usual media goomba a state sponsored NFL media, the
network the NFL gets sold to ESPN or anyone works
at the ESPN ors in the tank for the NFL.
So instead, as we mentioned, they went to the Wall
Street Journal, they went to the New York Times. That's
where they went to. And so now the tables have turned.
So they've turned, and the NFL peeps, we would imagine
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we're gonna start singing like canaries some of the people
involved in this if it gets to the discovery phase,
because emails will get exposed and text messages and they're
going to try to do the old cya cover your ass,
and that's what everyone does now.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Page two.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So where where does the NFL go now to avoid
publicly being pansd publicly being panted by John Gruden in
the discovery phase of a court case? So what does
the NFL do here? So they have to get out
the manny and the petty. They have to give the
manny and the petty descotus. That is where this is
(12:58):
going Next. The NFL will file a formal appeal, which
means lawyers will get some more money. They're on retainer anyway.
So the NFL is gonna file a formal petition I guess,
not really appeal, but petition for appeal, which is an appeal,
but it's a petition for a pick. So they're gonna
file a petition to the United States Supreme Court, the
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highest court in the land.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
And if the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Does not take the case, and they don't take most cases,
they don't take most cases, all right, or if they
do take the case and they rule in favor of
John Gruden, meaning the NFL loses loser capitale l that
means it is on like don't keet calng we're talking
(13:44):
about the discovery phase. So listen to the NFL. I
mentioned i'd put some feelers out and I just I got.
The early vibe I got was hubris. That's my word,
that not their word. But there's an arrogance that they're
gonna win in the Supreme Court and all that stuff.
The NFL is not stupid. They're not smart, but they're
not stupid. And they know that the discovery phase will.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Be a blood bath for them and if we get there,
and so they're gonna try to cut it off at
the pass if they have to. Now they assume they're
gonna win because they'll just do what everyone does in
these cases and a massage some politicians and that's how
it goes. And then at the other side of it,
the other option would be to work out of court
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settlement with John Gruden a big bag of cash. I'm
talking the late Morgan Spurlock and supersize me. I'm talking
John Gruden's lawyers cooking up what do you want, John?
You want thirty forty fifty million dollars whatever you want.
The NFL is gonna pay it. You know, it's a
tax for the NFL. They'll pay it.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And Gruden, he had said the quote that it keeps
coming up is he wants to burn the house down.
So he's going to tell them to shove it. You
would assume, right, I don't need your money. I gotta
know Gruden's rich. You paid way too much money to
do bad television and all that. So he's got a
lot of money. So if it's not about the money,
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it's about your reputation, it's about the principal. And he
was humiliated and all that stuff, and he wants his
pound a flash, And then what's the NFL going to do?
He can't settle. Gruden cannot settle, right, he can't do that.
The NFL made sure that he was radioactive. So what
Gruden could do is make Roger Goodell radioactive. There is
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a scenario where Gruden, this lawsuit goes forward, Goodell ends
up losing his job as the commissioner of the NFL.
That there's definitely some skeletons there somewhere if you dig
deep enough in those nice walking closets, and you can
get rid of Roger Goodell. And so at this point,
John Gruden's got the league by the balls. He's got
him by the balls. And just like the man said
(15:54):
a famous quote, what do you do when you've got
him by the balls? Wheez and you keep squeezing until
their hearts and minds follow.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
And there you go. You're on your way.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Good luck on that all right now, the last word
on this. We'll put the baby to bed on this.
John Gruden sor you will get your calls if you
want to react to it, and comments and all that.
But what kind last word, what kind of a package DELI? Oh,
what kind of a package deal could get John Gruden
who has said that he wants and again his quote was,
(16:29):
he wants to burn the house down? So what kind
of package deal could get John Gruden to take a
settlement from the NFL. As a distant relative of Nostre
Damis and friend of Nostradinas, he lives in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
He doesn't really react to the show very much anymore.
But I've done the investigative work. I've done the investigative work.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
So we're talking about Roger Goodell doing some cosplay in
this world. I believe in the multiverse, So in this
part of the multiverse, there's some cosplay and Roger Goodell
he addresses up as the old Hollywood star Marlon Brando
from back in the day in The Godfather and says,
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I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse John Gruden.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And it's about.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Gruden getting back in the game. The money's one thing.
Gruden not need the money. He's rich, He's made a
lot of money for a long time, so he's financially
set in that regard. In the multiverse, though, you get
not only the cartoon sized check for say fifty million dollars,
that's after taxes, after taxes, fifty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
You look around. You got Pete Carroll who's beginning his
first year with the team in Las Vegas, and he's
the oldest coach in the NFL. He clearly has lost it.
He brought Geno Smith in, who sucks as the Raiders quarterback.
So and we like Pete. Pet's you a nice guy
and all that, Pollyanna Pete. However, however, John Gruden, what's
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the one thing he would love to have more than anything?
The job that he had that he thought he was
gonna have for another seven or eight years. He signed
that ten year contract to be the coach of the Raiders.
So John Gruden, with that big greasy smile on his
face from ear to ear, cheshire cat smile, heads back
(18:21):
to Sin City coach of the Raiders, and Goodell can
make it happen?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Is Avis do us a solid here. We'll give you
the money, We'll get you the Raider coaching job. In fact,
we'll get you whatever job you want in the NFL.
You what job do you want? It makes too much sense.
John Gruden returning as coach of the Raiders, And you
can see it now, the charismatic John Gruden saying bygones
be bygones. Back on the sidelines there with Mark Davis
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giving him a hug. They go out to dinner at PF.
Chang's and they get the orange chicken. They have a
great time. Remember Mark Davis said he never wanted to
get rid of John Gruden. In fact, if I remember
Carrefi doing the show and being in the watchdower at
that time. The first email dump happened on like a
Thursday or a Friday, the John Gruden email dump. Gruden
(19:13):
coached the Raiders against the Chicago Bears, and then a
second a second wave of emails were dump because the
first one didn't work. So whoever at the NFL, in
my opinion, can't ssume me for my opinion. Some of
the NFL said, all right, this didn't work. We got
more email. Send those out to the other newspaper that
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we don't normally do business with, and you know, we'll
take down.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
And that worked. The second one worked. That's it.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
He was gone, but Mark Davis didn't want to get
rid of John Gruden. He was forced to, so he can.
Goodell can unforce it and bring him back and save
his own ass at the same time, because there's stuff
in those emails for Goodell that he'd be gone and
Gruden can stick it to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Is that here? I'm back? What are you gonna do now?
I'm back?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
And of course, and I don't think it's a pipe tree.
I don't believe it's a pipe uman. This is John
Gruden's ultimate revenge. So either you tear down the entire league,
get rid of Goodell and a bunch of other executives
because you release the emails, or you take NFL money
fifty million, let's say maybe it's more than that. They
are going low at fifty million, and you take the
money and then you get whatever NFL coachingw you want.
(20:25):
It's yours, hand delivered done.
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Plate is filled filled with a quarterback drama, Orama, drama
oramo follow up to the follow up, follow up to
the follow up. Quarterback Matthew Stafford filling up the football
headlines yet again. The Super Bowl champion from a couple
of years ago. Great a super Bowl my lifetime, Rams Bangles.
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I don't I don't think anyone can disagree with that,
Sayway Stafford. If you didn't see this, maybe not because
you actually have a life. You have a job, you
have a family, have things you have to do, and
so you missed it. So Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford did
not did not practice on Monday after being you know,
the expectation was he was going to practice. Why was
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the expectation because the couch said it. So he was
supposed to take part in individual drills in his return
to practice, the oh my aching back. He has an
aggravated disc. Gotta say that carefully and slowly. Aggravated disc
in his back. Now, over the weekend, Sean McVay puffed
(23:26):
his chest out, smugly and arrogantly and announced to the
media that he was coming back on Monday. He being
Matthew Stafford, and McVeigh had said, Seth had a quote
great workout, those were his words, not mine, felt good
on Saturday, and then he said he didn't feel good
(23:46):
enough though to throw the football on Monday. The Rams
didn't think this is according to McVeigh. He said, quote,
the Rams didn't think practicing was the right thing to do,
based on how he was feeling, how he woke up feeling,
macveagy said. Now, instead, Stafford was spotted in his street clothes,
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like somebody for your favorite NBA players street clothes, Anthony
Davis players like that. So Stafford was in street close
during practice wall walking into a truck that was for rejuvenation.
They had a truck there that was parked next to
the Ram practice field. Some of this new age sciencey stuff.
(24:29):
They essentially convinced the NFL teams, Hey, let's put a
truck there. And we'll put like some kind of weird
chambers in there and then it'll be like the Haunted House.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
But it'll it'll make the players better.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
All right. Anyway, let's discuss the question for the esteem panel,
which you are a part of. You're on the Esteem panel. Congratulations,
Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford did not did not practice, did
not practice despite his expected return. Now what does that
mean in the big picture?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
All right? What does that mean in the big picture?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
So I've got cucumber slices, Facebook Marketplace, and naked mole rats,
three things that have never ever been put together, but
they will be here for this monologue. And we're gonna
make some Mediterranean chicken. When we have some chicken swarma
and some rice and there there you go. All right,
So number one number So Matthew Stafford supposed to be
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the ring leader of the RAM circus, right, he's out there,
the ring leader. There, the guy that the Rams brought
in and they brought back. There was some talk. Stafford
went to Montana and was whined and dined by Tom Brady,
white white pants Brady there in Montana and decided to
go back to the Rams. And so he was brought
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in yet again as the ring master for the Rams
to ride the elephant at the circus under the big
top there and do the trap peez. Of course you
got to do that, the whole thing. And so there
he is the day he's supposed to get out there
and prove all the critics wrong and go out there
and practice, and he's in street clothes. Now, can you
play an NFL game in street clothes? I don't believe
you can. I don't think that's allowed. I don't think
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you can do it. So he's not practicing, not after
Sean McVeigh put his his name on it. He'd put
his name on it, you know, the guy who's the
puppeteer of the Rams told everyone he's coming back.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Are you critics? Are you you overnight gas bags? He's
coming back, you losers. Well, he didn't practice, didn't practice.
McVeigh said he was going to do individual drills. Stafford
didn't do it, didn't do it. He's not there. He
wasn't there. Instead, he walked into some restorative and rejuvenation chamber,
which sounds like something you'd be sentenced to by a court.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Uh, And I guess this is a.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Hyper barrack chamber that they brought in that truck. The
Rams had it there some outside third party. They had
a truck there. I'm sure they probably had like a
side hot tub in there somewhere. And Stafford went in
there with the towel. He had some cucumber slices and
there was a loofa so he could take a shower.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And he's done, get all soapy and all.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So Stafford is quickly you know I'm wrong on this,
quickly becoming the poulter Geist for the Rams. And they
haven't even gotten to the schedule yet, Like this is
a preview of coming attractions here, haunting the Rams. Like
this is not the the thing of a jig, right,
the thing of a jig or the watch you might
call it break, Because the thing of a jig or
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the watch you might call it break.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
And you can deal with that.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
We're talking about the back, okay, And now I'm pretty
sure you have one. I've got one. We all have one, right,
everyone listening has back. So the center of the universe
and the human body the back, oh my aching back.
Think about playing professional sports or just living life, like
everything you do, every movement you make in the case
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of a football player. You're talking about throwing a pass,
you're talking about taking a couple of steps, back handing
the ball to the running back. You're talking about sneezing,
you're talking about wiping your tukas your back is involved.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
There is movement in the back.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
And I've thrown my back out a few times over
the years, and every time I throw my back out,
I think, well, that's it, it'll never come back, and
eventually it does come back. But I'm not a professional athlete.
I'm a professional gas bag. It's slightly different, I'm told
in these parts. So think about back into it. There's
no frame bending, can't do it. Every movement hurts, you know.
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And so this is this is like the chassis on
the car cracking. Like everything you do is involved in
the back, right. This is not just a ding bumper,
it's the chassis like ding bumper, bumper. You can you know,
slap some tape on it and you know, take the
bumper off whatever. This is the chassis on the car.
Ranking that's where we are. He had an epidoral last week, Stafford,
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and so Sean McVay can say, well, this surgery, the
surgery hasn't been discussed. He can say that all he wants,
and I'm sure he will, but you don't talk about
rebuilding the engine. You don't talk about rebuilding the engine
there until you've got oil pouring out all over the driveway,
and then you're like, oh crap, we got a problem.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
The Rams, listen the Stafford trade. They won the trade.
The Lions lost the trade. The Rams won a super
Bowl with Matthew Stafford. They've been a consistent playoff team
with Matthew Stafford. Jared Goff is the same guy he
was with the Rams. He's mediocre. He chokes in big games.
That's Jared Goff. So the Rams won that trade. That's fine,
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and the Super Bowl has been a couple of years.
The Rams have a young, upstart defense they're excited about.
They think that's a defense that's good enough to get
to a super Bowl. But if you're honest right now
looking at Rams and and you've got your quarterback who's
currently being held together with duct tape and going into
hyperbaric chambers, and who knows what other stuff he's got
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going on there trying to trying to keep the car
on the road, right, that's that's where we are. And
so you don't know what you don't know, and you
don't know when he's going to go kaboom and blow,
and you know, you don't know when the back is
going to say bye bye, I'm done. And every time
Stafford drops back, every time Sean McVay is on the
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sidelines and he's saying, you know, prayers, oh father, you
know all that, the hail Mary's uh, you know, hoping
that he takes another snap after that.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Staff And so this is a tough spot.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
To be in for the Rams, and it's it's gonna
follow them because at some point I would imagine Stafford's
going to actually practice, doesn't matter does he practice one
day and then take three days off or four days off?
And then where were now? Page two to Arizona we go.
Why I like talking about bad teams. I love bad teams.
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And the Cardinals suck. There are some reports out in
recent days here that predicting they are predicting the Cardinals.
That's a bad football team. The Cardinals will trade Alligator
Arms Murray Kyler Murray before the twenty twenty seven season,
rather than offering him he yet another contract extension. Now
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Murray would be thirty. At that point, the Cardinals would
be trying to get something, anything in return. In terms
of draft I love they say draft capital.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I love that draft capital.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Okay, wonderful, all right, So thumbs up or thumbs down,
Thumbs up or thumbs down on Kyler Murray having a
short shelf life in Arizona.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
See what I did there, So I am going to
go thumbs up.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I'm going thumbs up on this. Uh Now, listen, the
clock is ticking. You can hear it if you listen closely,
that's the clock ticking.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Just like that.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
You can almost hear it. And we believe it's not
gonna be till twenty twenty seven. It's going to be
after this year. We believe it'll.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Be after this year.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
You do the math on that, there's like one year left,
and you know the contract and the guaranteed money, and
it was always complicated. If you want to move a player,
you can move a player. Arizona foolishly gave Kyler Murray
a massive contract, like they were buying the dream yacht.
They always wanted this yacht. They got the yacht. They
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thought they'd be cruising, not for a bruising. They thought
they'd be cruising to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
And right there at sunset, beautiful weather, and you're in
this yacht and you got the air, the ocean air
there and oh man, it's just amazing wind in their hair,
the whole thing champagne. And instead reality check, they thought
they were getting a yacht. They actually mistakenly they went
on Facebook Marketplace and they bought a dingy, not a yacht,
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not a yacht. They bought a dingy okay and a
little outboard motor.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Normal dingy outboard motor. There sputters after about ten minutes,
about ten minutes of use. It's sputters a little bit.
It's got expired registration. And they've got a captain for
the dinghy alligator arms who get seasick in calm water.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, that's that's what we got here.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
And so now, of course at Arizona, immediately had the
buyers were morse.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
We talked about this many times here.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
How bad was it? It was so bad. It was
so bad that they're likely awake right now. Executives like,
what did we do? Why did we do that? Why
didn't we just rent? Why did we buy? I don't understand,
quarterbacks in the NFL are kind of like cars. I'll
use the Annalygy're like they're Arizona financed their car. However,
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they realized it's got a four cylinder engine. And unfortunately
there's a speed governor that kicks in anything, you know,
anything sixty five miles an hour, so you can't go
past sixty five miles an hour. And I know when
I'm driving on the highway and I see one of
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those they're always company cars, and they say, well, this
vehicle is being monitored by GPS and will not go
over a certain I immediately zoom past that vehicle. That's
Kyler Murray. That's Kylmer.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Every year.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Keep in mind also seven to ten teams, seven to
ten teams every year trade in their car or quarterback
for a newer model. And looking ahead into my crystal ball,
would be someone that would be interested in Alligator Arms
Murray going forward after this upcoming twenty twenty five regular season.
(34:57):
So if you look in the crystal ball, you've got
the Petsburg Steelers, the ins Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Like one year and then he'll be gone.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
The Jets because Justin Fields blows the Giants because Russell.
Wilson sucks and Jackson darts. Probably not all that good.
The Dolphins, they'll need somebody. They'll get rid of the Brownies.
They always change quarterbacks every year, the Raiders because you
know Gino Smith come on. So the thing about the showroom,
(35:28):
it's always open. The quarterback showroom is always open. The
sales people, they are always smiling. They're always smiling. They
have some lemonade and some snacks you can get there.
And the Cardinals they're about to roll. It's not a
big ball, but they're gonna roll Kyler back onto the
lot there.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Kyler at this point's got about seventy thousand hard miles
hard miles, and it's a car that leads the race
after ten laps and then falls apart the rest of
the race. There there's a dent on that fender. If
you look, there's a little dent there on the fender,
and the check ego light on the dashboard is flashing
(36:12):
check ego right there. And Kyler a guy who is allergic.
We've learned over the years he's allergic to watching film.
I don't like watching film either, but I do a
talk show. I don't have to watch him, and he
doesn't like standing in the pocket very long.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
We've learned about that.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Also allergic to looking over the offensive line unless you
get him an NFL branded step stool. Then he can
look over the offensive line. So you can a little NFL.
He got the NFL logo officially branded NFL and Cardinal
logo on the step school stool, and then he can
see over the offensive line and the extension. It's kind
of like the way I would describe it, it's like
buying a home gym for someone who is a couch potato,
(36:50):
Like why.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Would you do it?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
And you realize you're like, well, that guy doesn't he
doesn't get off the couch. Why do we buy a
home gym that's just gonna collect furnit, you know, shirts
and stuff. It's gonna be over there and it's gonna
be like a laundry basket and that's it. So the
Cardinals will try to get rid of Kyler Murray at
the end of this year, not till twenty twenty seven.
I'm talking about the end of the twenty twenty five season,
(37:12):
and that's the Yang they want. In terms of I
guess Kyler at this point was he where the mid
round draft pick. He's not that good and people have
I used to get pushed back when I would rip
Kyler early on. So you don't know what you're talking about.
And now everyone's in agreement. You know, it's it's not
much fun to talk about alligator armsmorried because everyone's agreed.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Sucks all right.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Now, final point to Philadelphia we go where the Eagles. Hey, gee,
el the Birds there Pro Bowl guard Landon Dickerson. We
don't talk about offensive linman unless A they're drafted right
for NFL draft. People get all horny for offensive lineman.
B they miss a block and the quarterback gets killed
(37:52):
or see they get hurt. That's this would be see,
So Landon Dickerson will undergo. They say it's a minor procedure.
Minor procedure. The Eagles guard on a meniscus injury to
his right knee. That's gonna happen in the coming days. Now. Dickerson,
who was considered one of the elite offensive linement in
(38:12):
the NFL, he will be considered week to week, not
day to day. Week to week with the goal of
returning for the NFL season up the less than a
month away. On a sleepy Thursday night in early September.
It all begins, all regular season over they Eagles and
that Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
How many points of the Cowboys gonna lose by that game? Anyway?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
So left guard Landon Dickerson having surgery on his knee.
The Eagles are downplaying this. What is the level of
worry for the Eagles? So it's not zero a scale
of one to ten, it's not zero, it's not one.
I'm gonna beat a two. And the reason I'm going
(38:57):
to it is discomforting. However, it is Toleran Dickerson a
central part. The Eagles are not a passing team. They're
a running team. They don't throw the ball. They just
don't do it. They don't have a quarterback that can
throw the ball consistently down the field. So it's all
about Sequon Barkley and the pushy pushy with Jalen Hurts.
So minor knee surgery is still last I checked knee surgery,
(39:21):
all right. So once they cut you open. I learned
this from my grandfather, you know, as a little boy.
He said, no Ben, little Benny, little fat Benny. Once
they cut you open, it's not minor anymore. Now, regardless
of that, here's the thing I've learned from years opining
on sports behind these microphones. When it comes to offensive lineman,
(39:44):
they're not human. They're kind of like Adam Silver. They're
from somewhere else out in the cosmos. They're like the
last gladiators. Even in the NFL, even in the Mighty NFL.
Quarterbacks get a hangnail and they miss two weeks, they're out.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
See you later.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Wide receivers have a little twinge in their hammy and
they're worried it's gonna go whammy, and they go on
the injured reserve list and that's it.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Now.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
The offensive lineman a little different. See the offensive lineman.
They follow the Caveman medical plan.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
What is that.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I don't know what that is the Caveman medical plan,
which is rub some dirt on it. Just throw some
dirt on it, grunt a couple of times, then take
a couple of pharmacy grade ibuprofen and get back in
the middle. That is the Caveman medical plan of the NFL.
That's the way it is. And so they're like those
(40:40):
naked mole rats. I remember learning this years ago. The
naked mole rat has a freakish pain tolerance. Freakish pain
tolerance don't even have the same pain receptors that we
have the rest of us have, right They just they
can just get absolutely shred the naked mole rat and
(41:03):
they're not really bothered by anything. Normal person tears the
meniscus and hobbling around on crutches. This guy Dickerson, Uh,
he's a good old Southern boy from Hickory, North Carolina.
And so I imagine Landon Dickerson probably walking around right
now at the Eagles Complex there in Philadelphia, eating a
(41:25):
hogi from wah Wahs and just not really worried at all.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Just a nice hogy and good to go.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
And maybe he'll have lunch tomorrow with Jonathan over in
Delaware and they'll have a great time.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
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Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. It's Mallar,
how about that to the third degree?
Speaker 3 (41:47):
This is one big Ben gets grailled all right.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
Now.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
A lot has been made about the Bengals slow starts
under Zach Taylor, and some of that has been attributed
to lack of participation in the preseason by since he starters. Well,
Joe started and did well last week. Do you think
the Bengals will avoid these slow.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Start this year.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
No, this is their thing. This is what they do.
They get off the bad start. They have a crappy defense,
so they won't stop anybody, and they're gonna have to
outscore the opponent. Now, the good news is they're playing
two Tomato Cans, so you should at least.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
When one of them.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
They're playing Cleveland and Jacksonville to start the year. They
suck so but it's not gonna because they played in
the preseason.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
It's they're not. The Bengals are a bad defensive team.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Next, reports now say that Trey Young is resigned to
finishing off his contract with the Atlanta Hawks and testing
free agency in twenty twenty six. However, the Hawks made
some moves in the offseason and the East isn't exactly daunting.
Do you think a playoff run could keep Young in Atlanta?
So this is all part of the master plan. The
Hawks are like, well, we don't know what we want
to do here, Well, Trey Young, everyone's slow playing this. Ultimately, though,
(42:57):
Trey Young can get more money from the Atlanta Hawks,
so even though the Hawks also are pathetic. You go
where the money is, and there's more money in Atlanta,
so you'll remain there, and they're just gonna drag this
out to the very next Jags kicker Cam Little hit
his seventy yard field goal in the team's preseason debut
over the weekend would have been an NFL record, beating
out Justin Tucker by four yards, but it won't count. Ben,
(43:18):
do you think kickers will be giving a ton of
chances to erase Tucker from the record books?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Well, not because it's Tucker, but it's it's gonna have
to be right before the end of the game or
the end of halftime, although.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
It's not not because it's Tucker. No, I don't care
about to how we do. How many pass this edition? Hey,
I won the game, but gay unbelievable. I'm all.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
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Speaker 1 (43:49):
As Wageo markettestants for the game, we have some people
standing by here. John is in Paradise. Someone to assume
that's Nevada or all casinos are no California. Paradise, California.
Where's Paradise? Where's Paradise California?
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Where is that.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
North of Chico?
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Oh? When you think paradise, you think Chico, north of Chico.
That is paradise. Yeah, absolutely, yes, absolutely? All right, Well John,
welcome and let's see here. Now what are you up to?
You working? Are you just driving around randomly? What's going on?
Just left my girlfriend's house.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Oh look at that, that sounds like a booty called
to me late night fun there, you know, took care
of business, your big stud John, Right.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Come on, maybe maybe the exact opposite that way, chicked
out of the house at two in the morning.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Almost that sucks. That's all right, I understand, I got you.
Well it happens, so but we'll see. Now, John, would
you like to play with myself Ben as your partner
or coop a loop.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Moody one, then I'll play with you.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
That's how I played.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
I played with Eddie. We did good. If you really
want to make your girlfriend mad, you can play with me. Yeah, right,
hello John. Unfortunately Eddie is not available.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
He's not working here right now, so he's not we
I did invite Eddie to the Malor Meet and greet.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
I don't think he's gonna go. I said you can
come and hang out. And we have him, you know,
in Vegas, and I don't think he's gonna show up,
but I did invite him.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
All right, John, we'll partner uphold on a second. We
have Steve in the Bay Area. Hello Steve, quickly, Steve
pig Thicket. Well, Steve in the Bay Area, welcome out.
You want to play with Coop?
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Yes? Yeah, Coop quickly? All right, Coop quickly one of
the category. Hurry up?
Speaker 5 (45:50):
All right, this is the casey Affleck edition. We have
two hundred cigarettes Ocean's eleven. I'm still here in Manchester
by the Sea.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
John, what do you want? Quickly? I'm sure I'm still here. Steve,
what do you want? All right? Hold on, we'll get
to Malor's mount of Money. We'll get to it. We
will do it next.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Ben Malors
Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Now, Malor's Mountain of Money?
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Do you have what it takes to get to the top?
Probably not?
Speaker 3 (46:26):
And right to the game we go. We have John,
who's a little north of Chico and Paradise, California, teamed
up with me. He just had a disagreement with his girlfriend,
and so now he's calling sports radio and we have
Steve in the Bay Area. We don't know what Steve's
up to, but he's with Coop. So let's get to
the game right now. Here we go and it is
the Casey Affleck edition turned to fifty today. All right,
(46:48):
so you picked.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
I'm still here, Yes, John, These athletes have all all
been professional athletes for fifteen plus years.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
They're still playing. Are you ready? I'm going to be
all right, John, forty five seconds on the clock. We're
on our way go. Starting quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yes, Cory,
he won a Super Bowl. It was called the Elite
with the Ravens. He's the Browns quarterback right now.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Starting pitcher for the San Francisco Giants. Longtime Detroit Tiger
played for the cheating Astros. Yes, last name is like Romance.
He played for the Minnesota Timberwolves, the Miami Heat, the
Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
He's a forward white guy out of U C l
A U. Yes, that's right. A closer for the Angels,
he used to play with the Dodgers, played with the
Red Sox.
Speaker 6 (47:44):
All right, center for the ah You did hundred points.
You didn't get Wenley Jansen Jens. All right, Steve, we
have Manchester by the seed. These athletes are off from
Matt to choose. It's are you ready, Steve?
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I'm ready?
Speaker 3 (48:03):
All right, forty five seconds. Let's begin.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
Famous professional wrestler in movies, not the Rock. You can't
see him? No, all right, a professional wrestler. He's in movies,
but not the Rock. Yes, all right. This guy is
Terry Bradshaw's partner on the NFL on Fox. He was
a defensive end for the Raiders. Yes, this guy was
(48:27):
part of the Killer Bees in Houston. Not Craig Beegie
the other guy. Well say that the whole name. Yes,
this guy was a He led the Seahawks to the
Super Bowl in two thousand and five with yes, yes,
good job. This guy was a white guy on the
(48:48):
Bad Boy Piston?
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Was that? Loreen?
Speaker 3 (48:52):
I think it's funny. All right, we go next quickly, John,
what do you want? You want? Oceans eleven or two?
Order cigarettes? John? All right? These athletes were all known
to smoke. Forty five seconds were on our Way Center
for the nineteen eighties Lakers. He played for the Sacramento Kings.
He's got a beard. Was the GM of the Kings.
(49:14):
That is correct, manager of the Pirates. He was chained smoking.
Back in the eighties when he had Barry Bonds. He
managed the Detroit Tigers. Ben Che did not want that
we won the game. Another win you congratulations John, the
all time win
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