September 15, 2025 • 48 mins
Big Ben talks about Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs falling to 0-2 after a loss to the Eagles in Week 2, if the Bengals can survive without Joe Burrow for three months as he goes down with turf toe, Maller to the Third Degree, Insta-Advice Line, and more!
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A Super Bowl rematch that was lacking the wow factor.
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we start with the Sunday Nike. It was such a dud.
I mean, my god, you all told me JJ McCarthy, all,
JJ McCarthy, he's gonna be better because he didn't play
as a rookie. He got hurt, and he went to
all the meetings and he learned everything, and oh man,
he's so good. The guy blows Okay, two games in
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McCarthy sucks and it's bad television. How did that game
end up in Sunday night football? How does Minnesota and Atlanta?
What a clunker that was? In my opinion, that sucked.
So in an active protest against this malfeasans by the
NFL that's supposed to put the top teams in the
Sunday night window, we're gonna skip over that game till
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later we've got four hours and instead a rematch the
game of the weekend, which also wasn't all that great,
but it was at Arrowhead Stadium in Cannes City, and
so that is where we will start and That is
our lead here. As the Chiefs, who have been consistently
dominant even when they're bad, they get to the AFC
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Championship game. They're at the point now where mathematically it's
not looking very good. Two weeks into the NFL season,
it's not looking very good. Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs
are zero and two. They are all and two, which
I'm told is not good. I didn't play in the NFL.
I know Ryan Clark probably doesn't want me to give
a take on this, but I don't think that's that good.
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I don't think it's not good. So oh and two
after losing the much anticipated rematch there on America's Game
of the Week, and if you saw this game or not,
we're watching it was everywhere. Not a lot going on
in the late television window. And if you didn't see it,
well listen. We know the better stories in the losing
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locker room. So that is where we're going to focus here.
While it's not the the outcome that is shocking. I
picked on Benny versus the pay. We had to be
the Eagles on that. If you watch the YouTube show,
we had the Eagles in that game. On a few
things we got right this weekend, So it's not shocking
the Chiefs loss. This is only a second time Mahomes
has been an underdog at home, and there's a reason
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he was an underdog because the Chief's an't very good.
Right now, they're oh and two. Mahomes was asked about this.
He said, well, it's not the start we wanted. Mahomes said,
he believes Kansas City is quote close he said, to
figuring things out. Quote. I know it sucks to hear
it for the fans, Mahomes said, but you know what
butt means. He said, I feel like we're close. He said,
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we're We've got to keep working and get ready for
the Giants next week, all right, close quote on that.
So let us discuss the question. Can you please decode
the message within the message from Patrick Mahomes as the
Chiefs are as he says, close, they're close to figuring
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things out, all right. So my thoughts on this, I've
got Tutoring, Lightning and Marvel Comics, and we will combine
all of these things together and we are going to
make some delicious, crunchy taketos is what we're going to make.
We're going to make those so ah, there's not too
deep to dig in this particular commentary from Patrick Mahomes.
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He here's what Mahomes is really saying. Keep it simple, stell,
but is what he's saying. He's saying that, hey, we've
got he said it. We got the Giants on NBC
coming up on Sunday night. That is the NFL's version
of a layup line. That is a pitch and putt
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is what that is. That is homecoming opponent time when
you play well. The Giants scored a lot of points
against the Cowboys. How'd that turn out? Yeah, they scored
their quota of points, which means the Giants are likely
they're going to go back to scoring I don't seventeen
points or something like that next week. That is a
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pinata game. You want that game. That is a well
scheduled game. It's show up, collect a win. And Moms
is essentially admitting here that, hey, the Chiefs are not
right all right. The schedule maker, though, handed us a
gift and that's a nice soft serve cone. That's a
delicious soft serve cone. And so don't worry about it.
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We're gonna be back on track here and we'll be Okay,
we'll win the game. It's not gonna be pretty, but
we're gonna win the game. That's it. The Giants are
exactly exactly what the Kansas City Chiefs need right now.
And let's not kid ourselves here. This Chiefs offense is lacking.
They're lacking a lot. I mean they are. It's a
hot mess. It's a stew, and not a good kind
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of stew. That's simmlary there there there's not a lot
of meat on the ball. Where's the razzle dazzle. There's
not a lot of razzle dazzle. Where's the circus sole,
the circus act that used to terrify defenses and all
that stuff. Where's that? It's gone? I doubt say it.
Do you see it? I don't see it. Maybe my
eyesight's going back. I do not see it when I
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watch the Chiefs play, I don't see that in the
first two games. And this is a plodding team. It
is a paint drying type team. Offensively, when you watch
this team go about their business, there is just not
Eliza Well, they're good. Injuries. Okay, As far as Mahomes saying,
we're close to figuring it out, isn't the whole job
to figure it out when the when the games begin,
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and not a couple of weeks into the season. That
isn't the whole thing to come out here. You've been around,
You've got the championship pedigree and all that stuff, and
you just come out of the gates and and get
it going. Well. Andy Reid chimed in on this big riot,
Andy Reid, and do you think Andy Reid is blaming Mahomes?
Do you think he's blaming Travis Kelcey, or do you
think he's doing what every else coach, every other coach
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in the world does, say, I'm the guy, blame me,
I'm the guy. Let's take it this.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I'll take four responsibilities for the game.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
All right.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I probably said too aggressive on that, and that's my responsibility.
But my guys played their tail off and played hard
and aggressive football, and and they stuck together throughout the game,
and and they'll pay for us down the road when
as we continue to grow.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So you're never ever there's a couple of cardinal rules
in sports. One of them is you can never ever
say your team is lazy and they don't play hard.
That is a capital offense. Right, That gets you fired.
So even when your team is terrible, you have to
say they're playing hard. You have to say that. But
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you look at the offense. I keep going back to this.
It's a paint drying type situation here. But there's a
lot of playmakers that are more like traffic cones when
you watch them go about their business. There, there's nobody
that really scares you. Nobody that scares you you. Kelsey
has continued to get he's old, he's an old player,
and he's more worried about podcast and is a little
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lady friend that he's gonna marry. And that's fine, that's
his life, but doesn't help the Chiefs out right now.
You talk about what he was, not what he is
anymore because he's a shell of what he used to be,
and that's normally how that works. But he's still out
there that can't can't get rid of him because he's
Travis Kelsey. You gotta keep throwing his rotting carcass out
on the field in every game. But you look around.
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The defense is legit in Kansas City, so you figure
they just got to get a little bit more, just
a little slightly more on offense and they can be
okay at the moment, and we do the show today
and at the moment that is a yawn fest. That
is an absolute yawn fest. And let's not gloss over
this that Patrick Mahomes himself has not been good enough
so well, he doesn't know the playmakers, all right. Wasn't
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it the quarterback that makes the players around him better?
Isn't that always the argument that we make that the
elevate the quarterback elevates the people around him, and the
early placement exam a couple weeks into the regular season,
and Kansas City needs some tutoring, is what they need?
They do. The Eagles are a measuring stick game. Every man,
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woman and child knows that. And Kansas City they got
measured and they got weighed and they were found wanting
is the way it was? Right? The game was again,
it was not They had a chance. They did have
a chance to win the game. And you know, mathematically
in the fourth quarter and you can do the math
on that, but both offenses looked like they were slogging
through the mud. And I didn't see any mud. Did
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you see mud? I didn't see mud. Did you see
I didn't see any mud? Some of homes saying we're close,
and using that line is really like, hey, please, you
loyal minions, you loyal minions, do not freak out. No, no,
nothing to see here. We've got the Giants, and that's
a feel good opponent. That is a feel good opponent
when you play the Giants, feel good. But the week
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after that, the Ravens they come a call in at Arrowhead.
So you gotta beat the Giants. You don't beat the
Giants the way the unless the Chiefs get a bunch
of guys back that all of a sudden can run
and catch passes and run through the defense, then you're looking.
If they don't beat the Giants and you're going to
zero four, then's doomsday prophecies. So you gotta beat the
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You've got to beat the Giants, and then maybe are
pulling upset against Baltimore you are at home, But that's
a wood chipper game after that. So yeah, close in
Chiefs verbiage saying you're close. You know, we're close to
getting a get well game, get well game. You're close
to that there, and then we get slapped back in
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the face right after that. Now, meanwhile, the story within
the story here, the subplot from this particular game. I
think you know where I'm going with this. It involves
one of my favorite things to talk about, the tush push.
That's right, the touchboard. So instead of everyone focused in
on Mahomes, I started with Ohlmes. But instead of most
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people focusing in on Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and
even Nick Sirianni, it's all the conversation, all the rage,
all the rage. It's all about Jalen Hurts and the
caboose being pushed. Push the caboose, push the caboose, push
the caboose. Just like that, you're being shoved across the
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line to gain the line of scrimmage here. So there
was a famous play, I say famous relatively speaking, in
the fourth quarter of this game. Tom Brady was on
the call on Fox and he still stinks as a broadcaster.
But Tom Brady was crying a foul, crying a foul
about the Eagles offensive line moving early, which is they
obviously did. You don't have to have seen the play,
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even are blind listeners know they moved early. So the
question on this one, it's not just that particular play
that was the ignition point, if you will. So it's
not just that play that was the ignition point, but
the question, give me your reaction, give me your reaction
to the latest kurffluffel over the Eagles, Jalen hurts, tush
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push as this is now like the swallows returning to Capistrano,
and it's it's a nons It's a story that every year,
every single year, becomes a talking point here and a
couple times a year. And so anyway, here's Andy Reid again.
Here's Andy Reid his take on what appeared to be
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a clear violation that was not called by the referees.
Eagles jumped off side stinke is.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
You know, you try to get penetration as what you
try to do and be able to stop it. That's
a pretty rough one, you know. I might have a
couple of them that they got off a little early on.
But we'll look at that.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, what is there to look at. We all saw it.
You don't look at it. You know it's gonna change anything,
all right. So the NFL spends all this money on
replay and they spend all you all this, Yeah, and
we got to every call right, every call right, of course,
not the human elements part of it. Was obvious thing.
It's like three guys jumped off sides, at least two,
probably three, and they didn't call it. So on the
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play in question, the obvious off sides. The officials, it
was like Ray Charles and his friends were all there
as we had Stevie Meatball's blind Emmett. We had that
guy used to call a show that quits like a
lunatic every other week, Blind Scott. They all, they all
did it. They were all the referees there. Clearly we
we had terror. He was the lead official in this.
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So the Zebras they need to go out to lens
crafters is what they do here. And a multiple bird
brain linemen who were doing the cha cha cha before
they were supposed to be doing the cha cha cha
before the snap. Of course, people lose their minds, Oh
my god, lose their minds because this was supposed to
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be America's Game of the Week, right, get the calls right,
all that stuff. Mahomes versus Hurts a super Bowl rematch
for the ages two time super Bowl rematch. Instead, it's
another mcmillion scandal, is what it is. For the Philadelphia
football team, some shady business instead of stealing the McDonald's
monopoly piece, one of the great documentaries of all time,
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that mcmillion documentary from a few years ago. But Nick Sirianni,
Nick Sirianni, the very pompous, arrogant, a hole coach of
the Philadelphia Eagles. They're stealing firsts by shoving Jalen Hurts,
shoving his Badonka Donk over the line to gain. And
so it's infuriating the many. That's the whole point of this.
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People are very upset by this. And here's why. Because nobody,
nobody does it like Philadelphia. We've had these conversations the
last couple of years. This thing's been around for several years,
and it's for the Eagles. It's going to Disneyland. It's
the lightning it's the Lightning Lane. You gotta pay a
little extra for it. But you go to Pirates of
the Caribbean, it's lined up around the block. It doesn't matter.
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Straight to the front of the line, right, go right
to the front of the line. There works every single time.
And the Eagles, they are the unstoppable locomotive, the unstoppable
locomotive Philadelphia Eagles. When they run that play, it's a freebie.
For Jalen Hurts, and it's shocking how often they have
a third and one or a fourth and one right,
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And it's wild. It's like trying to win the electoral college.
They can't get enough votes. Roger Goodell in terms of
they tried to get rid of it the last couple
of years. They came a few votes short. But the
electoral college, too many teams are like, ah, we don't care,
we don't want to get rid of it. And it's
the same old argument. The argument against the torch pushes.
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It's clear, it's it's unsafe, it's unfair, it's ruining the
purity of the game. It's the same argument back in
the day. I've read about in college basketball when for
a few years in the nineteen sixties they got rid
of the slam dunk because a guy named Luel Sinder
who would change his name to Kareem Aldul Jabbar was
a dunking and they had to get rid of it
and all that stuff. But the same exact argument, the
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same exact argument. It's a different decade years later, and
the whining is extreme. So here's my take. My take is,
don't ban it. Do I like the bottle love to play.
But I wouldn't ban the play just like I would.
That's the cowardly thing to do. That's what baseball does.
That's what you don't want to be like baseball. Right,
the shift, we got to ban the shift. No, you
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don't need to ban the shit, but they did because
they're dumb. They're weak. Don't be dumb. Don't be weak.
Don't be dumb. Don't be weak. That's what baseball is.
Don't be that, don't be that, don't do that. Don't
do that. NFL. So I wouldn't ban it, right, I'd
copy it. And that's the thing. These teams are so
stupid in the NFL. The Eagles have spelled out an
unstoppable play, and you're so you're so worried about your
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high your dava quarterback, you can't run the play. Seriously,
like you look at the Andy Reid GT. Do the
Chiefs ever run the toush push? I don't see it.
Kyle Shanahan and San Francisco, Sean McVay with the Rams,
Dan Campbell, run it yourself. You know, no one can
stop it, right if everyone's doing it, if every team's
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doing a version of the Toush push. Then it will
not be an advantage anymore. It's not gonna be I
until then, Jalen hurts, tush push is the most uns
stoppable thing around and people know they can run it,
and they have chosen not to run it. All right now,
last word to New Jersey. We go quick right where
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Josh Allen and here we go. Buffalo had a dominant
victory over Gang Green blow out City at the Meadowlands.
There as the Jets head coach Aaron Glenn stealing the
headlines here, Aaron Glenn said, much like Andy Reid said,
blame me, It's my fault. I'm the guy. Well, Jets
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coach Aaron Glenn said that his preparation was lacking in
the days leading up to the game with Buffalo. Buffalo
wins this game by twenty points. It was not even
that close, he said. Quote apparently Aaron Glenn said, apparently,
I didn't have the guys ready to play. He said,
it's not okay to lose like that close. Quote. Glenn
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answered several other questions from the assembled media about individual
performances that were lacking by saying he has to watch
the tape, which is of course the default position. So
question is, how do you react to Aaron Glenn taking
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the blame for not having the Jets prepared to play
a divisional opponent at home in week two of his
first year on the job as a head coach in
the NFL. So, Aaron Glenn is, he's got his shoes on,
he's dancing, he's singing. It's the old standard head coach
song and dance routine. That's what you're doing here. I
didn't have the guys ready. You gotta go watch the tape.
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Gotta watch the tape. That's it. Gotta go watch the tape. Yeah,
buy the book. As in the comic book, this is
Marvel Comics, the Iron Man Act. Absorb the grenades and
deflect with cliches. That's how you do it. There, you
just knock yourself out. And why not. That's the oldest
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trick in the coaching playbook. There. You take the bullet,
you deflect the heat, and you hope, you hope people
don't notice that your team just got absolutely steamrolled. They
just look like the same old Jets, right, the same
old pathetic Jets. There was just pathetic, absolutely pathetic anyway
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you slice it and listen, get what's really going on here.
It's a cover job. We know it's a cover job.
A bunch of players who didn't show up. That's on them,
you know, that's on them. And Aaron Glenn knows it.
He knows who wasn't prepared to play, who was prepared
to play, and deep down the people within the Jets
know who was ready to perform. One guy in particular
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who was horrific, Justin Fields. Holy crap, man, that guy,
we know he sucks. He looked good last week. He
actually looked like he knew what he was doing. Against
the Pittsburgh Steelers. The defense was not very good, but
the Justin Fields experience in particular, my god, and the
Jets defense made James Cook look like vintage Thurman Thomas
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or Marshawn Lynch or someone like that. They're a true
Gang Green performance. We know with Gang Green there you
just chop it off before it infects the entire body.
Of course, you'd have to chop off multiple limbs of
this Jets team.
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I leave this hour from Cincinnati where they had an
extra item on the menu there. At the Bengals game,
it was snap Crackle pop. As we follow the drama
of the day. There was some drama on the field.
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The Bengals able to come back with their backup quarterback
and beat the Jacksonville football team. The story here, though,
is why they needed to put their backup quarterback in
as Joe Burrow popular pick by popular people, including yours truly,
to win the Most Valuable Player of the Year award.
You can tear that ticket up. If you've spent some
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money on Joe Burrow winning the MVP. You can take
that and cut it up. You can burn it, you
can wipe your ass with it and flush it down
the toilet, do whatever you want. It ain't happy. Joe
Burrow has suffered what we are told is a grade
three Go to web MD, go to the introweb a
grade three turf toe injury. Oh my aching toe. Yeah,
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So turf toe injury for Joe Burrow, which will require
surgery and we'll sideline him. Various reports of the overnight
say he'll be out for three months, at least three months,
the very minimum three months. So take the over on that. Wow.
All right, So let us discuss if you're unfamiliar with this,
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the story here. The left toe of Joe Burrow mangled
during a sack by the Jacksonville football team. Happened in
the second quarter. Bengals did win the game thirty one
twenty seven, killing one of my bets by coming back
getting a late touchdown. Not that I'm bitter about that.
They were three and a half point favorites. They won
by four. Not that that stings, but that's aside the
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point we're talking about here. So the story is Joe
Burrow is injured and say he's gonna be out three
months if surgery is deemed necessary. Again, there are difference
of reporting overnight. Some say it's gonna happen, others say
not so much, but he is the franchise player. But
if it's deemed necessary, he's expected to be out again
upprossimately three months, which is mid December, mid December, and
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that's it. Burrow was seen in a walking boot and
he was on crutches after the game, so generally not
a good sign. Again, I didn't play in the NFL,
so I know Ryan Clark probably don't want to comment
on that, but generally he's not a good sign. When
you're starting quarterback is leaving on crutches in a booty.
That's not good. So does not look particularly the good
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and that means that back up Jake Browning. Yep, that
guy will get the keys to the Bengals kingdom for
the time being.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Here.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Everyone writing them off at this point, even though they
came back to beat Jacksonville, say well that's Browning's not
that good. So let us discuss question. Assuming worst case
scenario that Joe Burrow is dun Skis for the Bengals,
that he has dined on snap crackle pop thumbs up
or thumbs down, thumbs up, thumbs down. Can the Bengals
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survive let's say, three months without Joe Burrow? All right?
So I've got ups, Skittles, bag and meatball Hero and
we'll combine all of these things together and we are
gonna put the biscuit in the basket, is what we're
going to do. So my first thought on this is
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when you say survive, they're not gonna die. But in
terms of actually being competitive and in a position to
get in the playoffs, I'm gonna go no, capital N no,
and no they will not. Joe Burrow, for better or worse,
is the he is the franchise. He got paid like
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the franchise, and they just lost the steering wheel. So
if you're driving along and you lose your steering wheel,
it's a problem. If you're in the demolition derby and
you lose your steering wheel, it's a bigger problem. So
you're telling me that Jake Browning, who actually liked when
he played a few years ago, that Jake Browning is
going to keep this GILOPI on the road in Cincinnati
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because you know, at some point the defense is going
to completely unravel, like it's gonna just be tattered in Cincinnati.
So you're gonna have to score more points and you're
gonna have to throw the ball more and browning. The
more you throw, the more interceptions, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera. And it's a self fulfilling prophecy. So this
is a UPS special in honor of our friend Tree
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in Chicago. So UPS special. What can browning do for you? Now?
What brown can do for you? What can browning do
for you? Well, you can deliver interceptions. He'll throw some
touchdowns and that's it. Now you can sugarcoat this if
you want. I choose not to, But if you want
to sugarcoat it, you can. You can do that all
you want. It is man up, suck it up. All
that stuff the Shaw musco on blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
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blah blah blah. We've all heard the cliches. We've all
heard the cliches, But on this one, I just can't.
I can't go there, cannot do it, cannot do it. Uh?
And Burrow, is it the receiver that makes the court.
The quarterback of a quarterback that makes the receiver? Said, Well,
the Bengals have two absolute studs in Jamar Chase and
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t Higgins as playmakers on offense, and that is true.
And Browning is he gonna gonna use them to the
same degree that Burrow Diediver Burrows hadn't played great to
start the year here in the first couple of games
or so. It was terrible against Cleveland last week. So
what can Browning do for you? Well, what can he
do for you? Let's see, Well, he can put the
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ball in the other team's hands, check that box. That's
what he can do. A lot, a lot of turnovers here,
hero ball one minute, he didn't win the game on
Sunday with a couple of plays late disaster the next though.
You know, he reminds me of the coup on Browning,
the backup for the bank. The comp is like Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Ryan Fitzpatrick the Amish rifle without the beard and lacking charisma.
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Like if you had Ryan Fitzpatrick, you had him shave
and he had no charisma. There you go. So you're
telling me that in the AFC, a conference that has
Lamar Jackson in Baltimore, who's a great regular season player,
fraud in the playoffs, but great regular season player. Kansas
City was now zero and two. So you figure they
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most likely if he continued down this path, there'ud be
a wild card team that's gonna be their path. Although
the AFC West will see what the Chargers do against
the Raiders tonight, and then you've got the Josh Allen
scenario in Buffalos. There's a couple of heavyweights in the AFC,
and Jake Browning is gonna keep you right in the
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middle of that. Now, every time a quarterback gets hurt,
somebody said, well, what about Nick Foles? What about Nick Foles? Okay,
so that's a once a generation thing, spoiler alert, that's
already happened this generation. It's already happened to Nick Foles thing.
This generation. It's not a different generation. It's the same generation.
It's already happened. So if you think that Browning can,
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you know, I'm not saying he can't play well for
a week or two, because usually it's like the dead
cat bounce, the dead cat bounce where the backup comes
in and plays well and there's some excitement there and
teams rally around the backup quarterback, and so I believe
that's a legitimate thing. But long term, if it's a
three month situation for a month. Okay, three months, forget
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about it, right, three months. It's like you know, you know,
smoking smoking crack. If you think that's gonna be the case,
good luck on that. It's not gonna end well now,
page two. So, staying with the theme of the Bengals,
who did win and off to the two and zero
start here, The question is popular opinion among popular people,
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the usual media apologists that can never ever ever blame
the quarterback. It has to be somebody else's fault. Has
to be somebody else's fault. So they don't want to
blame Joe Burrow for being culpable in the situation he's
in Cincinnati. So instead they're like, they're blaming the Bengals
ownership for not protecting Joe Burrow. That that's the issue there.
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And so they said, well, you should have gotten a
better offensive line. That's the main argument, is that the
Bengals did not do a good enough job the front
office and getting an offensive line for Joe Burrow. So
does that work for you? Does that line of thinking
work for you? So I'll go first, and my reaction
is stop, stop, drop and roll. Please, No way that
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is a cop out answer, is what that is, and
it makes me want to puke in my mouth when
I see that here. Joe Burrow himself lobbied. He had
a hissy fit. Burrow, he complained, I gotta get my receivers.
I need my pass catchers. He said, okay, so fine.
They went out and they got his pass catchers. But
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he lobbied the ownership group in Cincinnati to dump a
quarter of the dreaded salary cap on Jamar Chase and T. Higgins.
Gotta have them both, gotta have them both. Most people said, well,
you get rid of T. Higgins, you keep Jamar Chase.
That's fine. No, no, no, Joe Burrow such a diva.
I need both these guys. I need them both. So
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they kept them both. Okay, fine, So I'm as much
a salary cap truther as anyone. The math is the
math on that, though, and certainly with a tight watt
ownership group like in Cincinnati. So the Bengals were only
gonna pay a few guys. Burrow wanted them to pay
Jamar Chase, and they wanted He wanted them to pay T. Higgins,
so they did. Okay, fine, So that's your luxury tax
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in shoulder pads right there, so you paid the wide outs.
You got them the money, and so that's on Joe Burrow.
You're playing GM. Joe, you're playing Lebron. You're the GM.
You wanted these guys, okay, got him, You got So
let's not sugarcoat this. There's no need to put frosting
on it. It don't need to do that, you know.
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Joe Burrow also is I'll see it quietly, injury prone.
Job Burrow is injury prone. I said that. If you
look at his medical chart, have you done this even
if you're blind? Listen to the audio Joe Burrow his
injury chart. It looks like a Skittles bag with all
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the different colors right picked your body part. You get
the green skittle for the ACL, the red skittle for
the MCL, those who have been torn. You've got a
purple skittle for the finger dislocation. You can have the
blue skittle for the calf strand the yellow skittle for
the sprain. And now you can add the turf toe.
I don't even know what other colors are left, but
that's it. So he's the Rainbow Warrior, not a Hawaii
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rainbow Warrior, but a rainbow Warrior of the training room.
That's who Joe Burrow is. That's it, and so congratulations.
He's the fragile rock Burrow. And when he plays usually
it's pretty good, not always, but usually pretty good. And
he misses a lot of times. So you can keep
selling Joe cool, this, that and the other thing if
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every season, every single season, he's on the operating table
in a gurney wearing one of those outfits in the
hospital with the wrist tag and the whole thing. By Halloween,
you are what your record says you are, we'd like
to say in these parts, and you are what your
record says you are. Joe Burrow's record is riddled. He's
got more MRIs than MVPs. How about that, more MRIs
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than MVPs. That's what he's got. And by the way,
by the way, if your quarterback is a Ferrari, congratulations,
you might want to stop driving your Ferrari through potholes.
It generally does not go well. You call a tow truck,
and there's a lot of tow trucks there. The rims
get bent, the frame gets busted, the hood starts smoking,
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and that's pretty much the career of Joe Burrow in Cincinnati.
All right, final point, dude, Jacksonville, we go the Jacksonville
side of things, the Jags on the losing side of
this game. I bring this up because rookie head coach
Liam Kohane in the middle of it, you talk about
being in the frying pan. He got into it during
the game with over raided Trevor Lawrence. I'm old enough
(35:23):
to remember that Trevor Lawrence at one point generationally all
time great player. You told me that tank for Trevor,
tank for Lawrence. And Trevor Lawrence has been in the
NFL a number of years now, and the only thing
he's good at is getting coaches fired. That's all he's
good at. The guy sucks Trevor Lawrence. So Trevor Lawrence.
(35:46):
Of course, Jacksonville blew the league because that's what they do.
They lose late to Cincinnati and Trevor Lawrence. You'll get
the numbers away. He had three touchdowns, two interceptions. Anyway,
get to the point. So during the game the loss
to the Bengals on Sunday, there, Trevor Lawrence was caught
on candid camera waving dismissively waving off Liam Khne after
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throwing a inaccurate pass on a crucial down late in
the game. Now, we're big on body language, and you
don't have to be a body language expert to know
this is not good. This is not good. This is
not good at all. Now, during that particular game, Lawrence
did not take kindly to the criticism from Liam Cohne,
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the head coach there, as we said, and he did
not complete the pass where it needed to go. On
the very next play though, after failing to convert on
third down, the Jaguars went forward on fourth down, and
this time Trevor Lawrence did did connect as he hit
Brian Thomas Junior, one of the rare times Thomas caught
(36:53):
a pass as the highly decorator wide receiver not very good,
get targeted twelve times, only caught four passes. Again, I
didn't play in the NFL. I don't think that's good.
I don't think that good. That's good. But the story
here is the interaction between the quarterback and the coach
and the fact that they ended up losing the game
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later on, blew the lead in that game. So what
is your reaction? What is your reaction to the Jaguars
Trevor Lawrence dismissively waving off his head coach Liam Kohne
on the sidelines. All right, So this is not nothing.
The only reason this clown, Liam Khne douve aal County.
(37:35):
The only reason this guy has a job is to
fix Trevor Lawrence. Like he is there, not the coach,
the entire roster. He is there because he's like the
next in the lineage of nerds. Liam Kohne is like
the new hot nerd. He's the centerfold nerd, right, and
so you've got the hottest nerd around, Liam Khne. You know,
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he was with the Rams, the McVeigh tree, and then
he falling down, and then he went to college and
they went to Tampa, and then he had success with
Baker Mayfield. So he's like the sexiest nerd around and
he was hired to fix Trevor Lawrence. So here they are,
it's the second game of the season and they are
at loggerheads. They are at loggerheads on the sidelines. That
(38:20):
is not just heat of the moment, all right, That's
not like heat of the moment stuff. And all I
said that is body language. Divorce court is what that is? Right.
The quarterback just told his brand new head coach that
was hired for him. Get lost, pal, get a lot
of dope, get out of here. It's bad, that's bad,
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all right. That was with the lead, they had the
lead at that time. You got Trevor Lawrence, who cantankerous
when he's ahead in the game. What's gonna happen when
they play Kansas City in a couple of weeks or whatever,
They're down by two scores, how's that gonna go? Sideline
is going to look like Jerry Springer back in the day.
And I'm all there for it. I'm there for it.
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It's contentious and you would see or you could see
Liam calling the coach there, pounding his chest like a
gorilla and keep it low. Trevor, keeper low, Trevor like that,
and then Lawrence basically said, shut up, you meet ball hero,
you nerd, and meet ball sandwich. Get out of here.
You lose her. So and anyone. Every time there's a
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sideline brujja, people bring up, well, Tom Brady got into
it with Josh McDaniels, he got into it with Bill Belichick,
And that's true, that is absolutely true. But that did
not start happening until Brady had established himself as good.
He wasn't doing that. When people thought he sucked, which
was the first two years of his career, they thought
he was a fraud and was not legit. And then
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after a certain period of time people were like, well,
Tom Brady's legit, the real deal, all that stuff, So
you don't do that. Laurence stinks. Does anyone think he's
good under his family fix? He's good, He's terrible. He's
a highly overrated. He got the big contract because Jacksonville
has got low self esteem the franchise as a joke.
They paid the guy without earning the contract because they
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were afraid they had, oh my god, we're gonna lose him,
you know, fear of missing out fo mo, and so
they paid him. All right, But if the quarterback is
not there with the coach and it is not good,
so Lawrence is not good and he's not there, doesn't
respect the coach. Keep an eye on this. This is
a it's a tinderbox situation in Jacksonville. It is. If
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they're bickering like this on camera, they know the cameras
are on them all the time. When you're in the
NFL game, there's cameras all the time. There's twenty cameras
in an NFL game, they're all focused mostly on the
quarterback and the coach. And you know you're on camera
and you're doing that during the game. Okay with I'm
not gonna say millions because it's Jaguars game, but you know,
fifty people watching, So you have fifty people watching and
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imagining the kind of squabbling that must be going on
behind closed doors. The thing about it, what's having Now
here's a Liam Cohen, the head coach of the Jaguars,
trying to downplay shocking, trying to downplay what happened with
his quarterback.
Speaker 6 (41:08):
Take all, listen, it was just one throw. I was
just you know, it is what it is. It's not
that's emotion. It's not personal ever to bet. You know,
that's just kind of me getting worked up. So he
threw a dime in the back of the end zone.
It don't make a play, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
He was.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
I was very pleased with his competitive nature, the ways
come on the sidelines that he doesn't get. You know,
he's pretty even keel, which is good for me.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
I need that. Let me clear my throat here, bull crap,
excuse me, I'm sorry about that. Uh yeah, come on, please,
you know what it looked like. It looked like a
father yelling at his teenage son to clean your room, dude,
ball pick it up, Trevor, and then Trevor slams the
(41:58):
door right in your face, right in your face. It's
not exactly the leadership not respect. Would have been funny
if the coach had come out and said, oh, yeah, yeah,
we hate each other. We got to work together. We
can't stand each other. He hates me, he thinks I'm
a nerd. I think he's highly overrated. He's gonna get
me fired Trevor Lawrence. Now that would be funny. But
what a mess. So you got the quarterback who's like,
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this guy's a dork, and my coach is a dork,
and Cohen's not. Not no of these nerd guys, No
of the nerds. Just like in Miami, right, you got
great ex's and those guy, but no leadership skills. That
generally does not end very well in that business. That
does not end well. You need the alpha, not the omega.
He's an omega and not an alpha, and that's a problem.
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It's Mallard. How about that?
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To the third degree, this is one big ben gets grilledo.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
Texas fans are starting to turn on arch Manning. As
the Longhorn struggled in the first half against the UTEP,
they boot him boom.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (43:07):
Texas was like a six touchdown favorite and ended up
winning by only seventeen. Benet's still early, But do you
think Manning has already lost his projected number one draft status?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
All right, So first of all, I look at arch
Manning the same way I look at J. J. McCarthy.
Both of them were spoon fed arch Manning. How many
is two years? Three years? He's already been in Austin
JJ McCarthy last year off. You cannot struggle against San
Jose State and sm Those are show up win domin
eight games. It's embarrassing. Now he's still got the Manning name.
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So I'm not going to close the door that arch
Manning will be a top pick in the draft. But
it's not looking good. He looks like he doesn't know
what he's doing. It's embarrassing. I thought the guy was
gonna be good. He sucks.
Speaker 7 (43:48):
Next, it was reported over the weekend that Baltimore Ravens
were set to take Shadur Sanders ahead of the Browns,
but that Sanders got word of the team that he
did not want to be taken by Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Do you think that was the right move by Shador? Well,
let's see, he's the third string quarterback on the Cleveland Browns,
one of the worst teams in the NFL. He's really
the four string quarterback because that report over the weekend
said he doesn't even run the scout team, that Bailey
Zappi runs the scout team like you're not good enough,
You're not Hello. Of course it was not the right move.
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Do something other than live off your daddy's last name.
Speaker 7 (44:21):
Next, Carmelo Anthony was inducted into the Pro Basketball Hall
of Fame on Saturday, but it said that Melo won't
have his number retired by anyone, Ben, Do you think
that'll be the case.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Well, they hate him in Denver because he screwed over
the Nuggets. He wasn't that great with the Knickerbockers. So
who else is he good? I don't know. Is there
anyone else that can retire his number? Like Carmelo put
up a lot of points. There's the definition of a
stat Bandito Carmelo, Anthony. That guy total fraud. All right,
how do we do? Kobolo? You pass the guy? I won,
(44:52):
Mike Phelepricaan, I won the game snooker.
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(45:43):
What's wrong with Ben Johnson? So advice to Ben Johnson
and the Chicago Bears. Off to the zero and two start,
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Line one more, look at it's not fair go to
and they choose the sad before they even get married.
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You get room. Yeah, that's good point, that's a we
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you're on the air line too. Hello, line too, we're
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Line four. Hello, Line four, you're on the airline for
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you're definitely not ricking Maryland. Hello, caller. You're on the air, caller, Hello,
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that's a fake holler, and James stop that hello call.
You're on the air. We give you advice to Ben Johnson.
Coach Ben Johnson, the Chicago Bears off to the oh
(47:10):
and two start.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Bears football is supposed to be like making Web two midget.
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ninety nine. On Fox. Line five, you're on the airline five. Hello,
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Advise the head coach of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Look at the candy Cooper looppot, that's the lash.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Okay, there you go. It's the candy bar of the coop.
But hello, line five, you're on the airline five toenail polish. Yeah,
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number one Hello, line one, JJ McCarthy is about as
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There you go. What great advice to Ben Johnson. That'll
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we start with the Sunday Nike. It was such a dud.
I mean, my god, you all told me JJ McCarthy, all,
JJ McCarthy, he's gonna be better because he didn't play
as a rookie. He got hurt, and he went to
all the meetings and he learned everything, and oh man,
he's so good. The guy blows Okay, two games in
(02:02):
McCarthy sucks and it's bad television. How did that game
end up in Sunday night football? How does Minnesota and Atlanta?
What a clunker that was? In my opinion, that sucked.
So in an active protest against this malfeasans by the
NFL that's supposed to put the top teams in the
Sunday night window, we're gonna skip over that game till
(02:22):
later we've got four hours and instead a rematch the
game of the weekend, which also wasn't all that great,
but it was at Arrowhead Stadium in Cannes City, and
so that is where we will start and That is
our lead here. As the Chiefs, who have been consistently
dominant even when they're bad, they get to the AFC
(02:44):
Championship game. They're at the point now where mathematically it's
not looking very good. Two weeks into the NFL season,
it's not looking very good. Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs
are zero and two. They are all and two, which
I'm told is not good. I didn't play in the NFL.
I know Ryan Clark probably doesn't want me to give
a take on this, but I don't think that's that good.
(03:05):
I don't think it's not good. So oh and two
after losing the much anticipated rematch there on America's Game
of the Week, and if you saw this game or not,
we're watching it was everywhere. Not a lot going on
in the late television window. And if you didn't see it,
well listen. We know the better stories in the losing
(03:25):
locker room. So that is where we're going to focus here.
While it's not the the outcome that is shocking. I
picked on Benny versus the pay. We had to be
the Eagles on that. If you watch the YouTube show,
we had the Eagles in that game. On a few
things we got right this weekend, So it's not shocking
the Chiefs loss. This is only a second time Mahomes
has been an underdog at home, and there's a reason
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he was an underdog because the Chief's an't very good.
Right now, they're oh and two. Mahomes was asked about this.
He said, well, it's not the start we wanted. Mahomes said,
he believes Kansas City is quote close he said, to
figuring things out. Quote. I know it sucks to hear
it for the fans, Mahomes said, but you know what
butt means. He said, I feel like we're close. He said,
(04:10):
we're We've got to keep working and get ready for
the Giants next week, all right, close quote on that.
So let us discuss the question. Can you please decode
the message within the message from Patrick Mahomes as the
Chiefs are as he says, close, they're close to figuring
(04:32):
things out, all right. So my thoughts on this, I've
got Tutoring, Lightning and Marvel Comics, and we will combine
all of these things together and we are going to
make some delicious, crunchy taketos is what we're going to make.
We're going to make those so ah, there's not too
deep to dig in this particular commentary from Patrick Mahomes.
(04:55):
He here's what Mahomes is really saying. Keep it simple, stell,
but is what he's saying. He's saying that, hey, we've
got he said it. We got the Giants on NBC
coming up on Sunday night. That is the NFL's version
of a layup line. That is a pitch and putt
(05:16):
is what that is. That is homecoming opponent time when
you play well. The Giants scored a lot of points
against the Cowboys. How'd that turn out? Yeah, they scored
their quota of points, which means the Giants are likely
they're going to go back to scoring I don't seventeen
points or something like that next week. That is a
(05:36):
pinata game. You want that game. That is a well
scheduled game. It's show up, collect a win. And Moms
is essentially admitting here that, hey, the Chiefs are not
right all right. The schedule maker, though, handed us a
gift and that's a nice soft serve cone. That's a
delicious soft serve cone. And so don't worry about it.
(06:00):
We're gonna be back on track here and we'll be Okay,
we'll win the game. It's not gonna be pretty, but
we're gonna win the game. That's it. The Giants are
exactly exactly what the Kansas City Chiefs need right now.
And let's not kid ourselves here. This Chiefs offense is lacking.
They're lacking a lot. I mean they are. It's a
hot mess. It's a stew, and not a good kind
(06:22):
of stew. That's simmlary there there there's not a lot
of meat on the ball. Where's the razzle dazzle. There's
not a lot of razzle dazzle. Where's the circus sole,
the circus act that used to terrify defenses and all
that stuff. Where's that? It's gone? I doubt say it.
Do you see it? I don't see it. Maybe my
eyesight's going back. I do not see it when I
(06:43):
watch the Chiefs play, I don't see that in the
first two games. And this is a plodding team. It
is a paint drying type team. Offensively, when you watch
this team go about their business, there is just not
Eliza Well, they're good. Injuries. Okay, As far as Mahomes saying,
we're close to figuring it out, isn't the whole job
to figure it out when the when the games begin,
(07:05):
and not a couple of weeks into the season. That
isn't the whole thing to come out here. You've been around,
You've got the championship pedigree and all that stuff, and
you just come out of the gates and and get
it going. Well. Andy Reid chimed in on this big riot,
Andy Reid, and do you think Andy Reid is blaming Mahomes?
Do you think he's blaming Travis Kelcey, or do you
think he's doing what every else coach, every other coach
(07:27):
in the world does, say, I'm the guy, blame me,
I'm the guy. Let's take it this.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I'll take four responsibilities for the game.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
All right.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I probably said too aggressive on that, and that's my responsibility.
But my guys played their tail off and played hard
and aggressive football, and and they stuck together throughout the game,
and and they'll pay for us down the road when
as we continue to grow.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So you're never ever there's a couple of cardinal rules
in sports. One of them is you can never ever
say your team is lazy and they don't play hard.
That is a capital offense. Right, That gets you fired.
So even when your team is terrible, you have to
say they're playing hard. You have to say that. But
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you look at the offense. I keep going back to this.
It's a paint drying type situation here. But there's a
lot of playmakers that are more like traffic cones when
you watch them go about their business. There, there's nobody
that really scares you. Nobody that scares you you. Kelsey
has continued to get he's old, he's an old player,
and he's more worried about podcast and is a little
(08:37):
lady friend that he's gonna marry. And that's fine, that's
his life, but doesn't help the Chiefs out right now.
You talk about what he was, not what he is
anymore because he's a shell of what he used to be,
and that's normally how that works. But he's still out
there that can't can't get rid of him because he's
Travis Kelsey. You gotta keep throwing his rotting carcass out
on the field in every game. But you look around.
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The defense is legit in Kansas City, so you figure
they just got to get a little bit more, just
a little slightly more on offense and they can be
okay at the moment, and we do the show today
and at the moment that is a yawn fest. That
is an absolute yawn fest. And let's not gloss over
this that Patrick Mahomes himself has not been good enough
so well, he doesn't know the playmakers, all right. Wasn't
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it the quarterback that makes the players around him better?
Isn't that always the argument that we make that the
elevate the quarterback elevates the people around him, and the
early placement exam a couple weeks into the regular season,
and Kansas City needs some tutoring, is what they need?
They do. The Eagles are a measuring stick game. Every man,
(09:43):
woman and child knows that. And Kansas City they got
measured and they got weighed and they were found wanting
is the way it was? Right? The game was again,
it was not They had a chance. They did have
a chance to win the game. And you know, mathematically
in the fourth quarter and you can do the math
on that, but both offenses looked like they were slogging
through the mud. And I didn't see any mud. Did
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you see mud? I didn't see mud. Did you see
I didn't see any mud? Some of homes saying we're close,
and using that line is really like, hey, please, you
loyal minions, you loyal minions, do not freak out. No, no,
nothing to see here. We've got the Giants, and that's
a feel good opponent. That is a feel good opponent
when you play the Giants, feel good. But the week
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after that, the Ravens they come a call in at Arrowhead.
So you gotta beat the Giants. You don't beat the
Giants the way the unless the Chiefs get a bunch
of guys back that all of a sudden can run
and catch passes and run through the defense, then you're looking.
If they don't beat the Giants and you're going to
zero four, then's doomsday prophecies. So you gotta beat the
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You've got to beat the Giants, and then maybe are
pulling upset against Baltimore you are at home, But that's
a wood chipper game after that. So yeah, close in
Chiefs verbiage saying you're close. You know, we're close to
getting a get well game, get well game. You're close
to that there, and then we get slapped back in
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the face right after that. Now, meanwhile, the story within
the story here, the subplot from this particular game. I
think you know where I'm going with this. It involves
one of my favorite things to talk about, the tush push.
That's right, the touchboard. So instead of everyone focused in
on Mahomes, I started with Ohlmes. But instead of most
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people focusing in on Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and
even Nick Sirianni, it's all the conversation, all the rage,
all the rage. It's all about Jalen Hurts and the
caboose being pushed. Push the caboose, push the caboose, push
the caboose. Just like that, you're being shoved across the
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line to gain the line of scrimmage here. So there
was a famous play, I say famous relatively speaking, in
the fourth quarter of this game. Tom Brady was on
the call on Fox and he still stinks as a broadcaster.
But Tom Brady was crying a foul, crying a foul
about the Eagles offensive line moving early, which is they
obviously did. You don't have to have seen the play,
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even are blind listeners know they moved early. So the
question on this one, it's not just that particular play
that was the ignition point, if you will. So it's
not just that play that was the ignition point, but
the question, give me your reaction, give me your reaction
to the latest kurffluffel over the Eagles, Jalen hurts, tush
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push as this is now like the swallows returning to Capistrano,
and it's it's a nons It's a story that every year,
every single year, becomes a talking point here and a
couple times a year. And so anyway, here's Andy Reid again.
Here's Andy Reid his take on what appeared to be
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a clear violation that was not called by the referees.
Eagles jumped off side stinke is.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
You know, you try to get penetration as what you
try to do and be able to stop it. That's
a pretty rough one, you know. I might have a
couple of them that they got off a little early on.
But we'll look at that.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, what is there to look at. We all saw it.
You don't look at it. You know it's gonna change anything,
all right. So the NFL spends all this money on
replay and they spend all you all this, Yeah, and
we got to every call right, every call right, of course,
not the human elements part of it. Was obvious thing.
It's like three guys jumped off sides, at least two,
probably three, and they didn't call it. So on the
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play in question, the obvious off sides. The officials, it
was like Ray Charles and his friends were all there
as we had Stevie Meatball's blind Emmett. We had that
guy used to call a show that quits like a
lunatic every other week, Blind Scott. They all, they all
did it. They were all the referees there. Clearly we
we had terror. He was the lead official in this.
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So the Zebras they need to go out to lens
crafters is what they do here. And a multiple bird
brain linemen who were doing the cha cha cha before
they were supposed to be doing the cha cha cha
before the snap. Of course, people lose their minds, Oh
my god, lose their minds because this was supposed to
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be America's Game of the Week, right, get the calls right,
all that stuff. Mahomes versus Hurts a super Bowl rematch
for the ages two time super Bowl rematch. Instead, it's
another mcmillion scandal, is what it is. For the Philadelphia
football team, some shady business instead of stealing the McDonald's
monopoly piece, one of the great documentaries of all time,
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that mcmillion documentary from a few years ago. But Nick Sirianni,
Nick Sirianni, the very pompous, arrogant, a hole coach of
the Philadelphia Eagles. They're stealing firsts by shoving Jalen Hurts,
shoving his Badonka Donk over the line to gain. And
so it's infuriating the many. That's the whole point of this.
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People are very upset by this. And here's why. Because nobody,
nobody does it like Philadelphia. We've had these conversations the
last couple of years. This thing's been around for several years,
and it's for the Eagles. It's going to Disneyland. It's
the lightning it's the Lightning Lane. You gotta pay a
little extra for it. But you go to Pirates of
the Caribbean, it's lined up around the block. It doesn't matter.
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Straight to the front of the line, right, go right
to the front of the line. There works every single time.
And the Eagles, they are the unstoppable locomotive, the unstoppable
locomotive Philadelphia Eagles. When they run that play, it's a freebie.
For Jalen Hurts, and it's shocking how often they have
a third and one or a fourth and one right,
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And it's wild. It's like trying to win the electoral college.
They can't get enough votes. Roger Goodell in terms of
they tried to get rid of it the last couple
of years. They came a few votes short. But the
electoral college, too many teams are like, ah, we don't care,
we don't want to get rid of it. And it's
the same old argument. The argument against the torch pushes.
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It's clear, it's it's unsafe, it's unfair, it's ruining the
purity of the game. It's the same argument back in
the day. I've read about in college basketball when for
a few years in the nineteen sixties they got rid
of the slam dunk because a guy named Luel Sinder
who would change his name to Kareem Aldul Jabbar was
a dunking and they had to get rid of it
and all that stuff. But the same exact argument, the
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same exact argument. It's a different decade years later, and
the whining is extreme. So here's my take. My take is,
don't ban it. Do I like the bottle love to play.
But I wouldn't ban the play just like I would.
That's the cowardly thing to do. That's what baseball does.
That's what you don't want to be like baseball. Right,
the shift, we got to ban the shift. No, you
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don't need to ban the shit, but they did because
they're dumb. They're weak. Don't be dumb. Don't be weak.
Don't be dumb. Don't be weak. That's what baseball is.
Don't be that, don't be that, don't do that. Don't
do that. NFL. So I wouldn't ban it, right, I'd
copy it. And that's the thing. These teams are so
stupid in the NFL. The Eagles have spelled out an
unstoppable play, and you're so you're so worried about your
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high your dava quarterback, you can't run the play. Seriously,
like you look at the Andy Reid GT. Do the
Chiefs ever run the toush push? I don't see it.
Kyle Shanahan and San Francisco, Sean McVay with the Rams,
Dan Campbell, run it yourself. You know, no one can
stop it, right if everyone's doing it, if every team's
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doing a version of the Toush push. Then it will
not be an advantage anymore. It's not gonna be I
until then, Jalen hurts, tush push is the most uns
stoppable thing around and people know they can run it,
and they have chosen not to run it. All right now,
last word to New Jersey. We go quick right where
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Josh Allen and here we go. Buffalo had a dominant
victory over Gang Green blow out City at the Meadowlands.
There as the Jets head coach Aaron Glenn stealing the
headlines here, Aaron Glenn said, much like Andy Reid said,
blame me, It's my fault. I'm the guy. Well, Jets
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coach Aaron Glenn said that his preparation was lacking in
the days leading up to the game with Buffalo. Buffalo
wins this game by twenty points. It was not even
that close, he said. Quote apparently Aaron Glenn said, apparently,
I didn't have the guys ready to play. He said,
it's not okay to lose like that close. Quote. Glenn
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answered several other questions from the assembled media about individual
performances that were lacking by saying he has to watch
the tape, which is of course the default position. So
question is, how do you react to Aaron Glenn taking
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the blame for not having the Jets prepared to play
a divisional opponent at home in week two of his
first year on the job as a head coach in
the NFL. So, Aaron Glenn is, he's got his shoes on,
he's dancing, he's singing. It's the old standard head coach
song and dance routine. That's what you're doing here. I
didn't have the guys ready. You gotta go watch the tape.
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Gotta watch the tape. That's it. Gotta go watch the tape. Yeah,
buy the book. As in the comic book, this is
Marvel Comics, the Iron Man Act. Absorb the grenades and
deflect with cliches. That's how you do it. There, you
just knock yourself out. And why not. That's the oldest
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trick in the coaching playbook. There. You take the bullet,
you deflect the heat, and you hope, you hope people
don't notice that your team just got absolutely steamrolled. They
just look like the same old Jets, right, the same
old pathetic Jets. There was just pathetic, absolutely pathetic anyway
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you slice it and listen, get what's really going on here.
It's a cover job. We know it's a cover job.
A bunch of players who didn't show up. That's on them,
you know, that's on them. And Aaron Glenn knows it.
He knows who wasn't prepared to play, who was prepared
to play, and deep down the people within the Jets
know who was ready to perform. One guy in particular
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who was horrific, Justin Fields. Holy crap, man, that guy,
we know he sucks. He looked good last week. He
actually looked like he knew what he was doing. Against
the Pittsburgh Steelers. The defense was not very good, but
the Justin Fields experience in particular, my god, and the
Jets defense made James Cook look like vintage Thurman Thomas
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or Marshawn Lynch or someone like that. They're a true
Gang Green performance. We know with Gang Green there you
just chop it off before it infects the entire body.
Of course, you'd have to chop off multiple limbs of
this Jets team.
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I leave this hour from Cincinnati where they had an
extra item on the menu there. At the Bengals game,
it was snap Crackle pop. As we follow the drama
of the day. There was some drama on the field.
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The Bengals able to come back with their backup quarterback
and beat the Jacksonville football team. The story here, though,
is why they needed to put their backup quarterback in
as Joe Burrow popular pick by popular people, including yours truly,
to win the Most Valuable Player of the Year award.
You can tear that ticket up. If you've spent some
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money on Joe Burrow winning the MVP. You can take
that and cut it up. You can burn it, you
can wipe your ass with it and flush it down
the toilet, do whatever you want. It ain't happy. Joe
Burrow has suffered what we are told is a grade
three Go to web MD, go to the introweb a
grade three turf toe injury. Oh my aching toe. Yeah,
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So turf toe injury for Joe Burrow, which will require
surgery and we'll sideline him. Various reports of the overnight
say he'll be out for three months, at least three months,
the very minimum three months. So take the over on that. Wow.
All right, So let us discuss if you're unfamiliar with this,
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the story here. The left toe of Joe Burrow mangled
during a sack by the Jacksonville football team. Happened in
the second quarter. Bengals did win the game thirty one
twenty seven, killing one of my bets by coming back
getting a late touchdown. Not that I'm bitter about that.
They were three and a half point favorites. They won
by four. Not that that stings, but that's aside the
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point we're talking about here. So the story is Joe
Burrow is injured and say he's gonna be out three
months if surgery is deemed necessary. Again, there are difference
of reporting overnight. Some say it's gonna happen, others say
not so much, but he is the franchise player. But
if it's deemed necessary, he's expected to be out again
upprossimately three months, which is mid December, mid December, and
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that's it. Burrow was seen in a walking boot and
he was on crutches after the game, so generally not
a good sign. Again, I didn't play in the NFL,
so I know Ryan Clark probably don't want to comment
on that, but generally he's not a good sign. When
you're starting quarterback is leaving on crutches in a booty.
That's not good. So does not look particularly the good
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and that means that back up Jake Browning. Yep, that
guy will get the keys to the Bengals kingdom for
the time being.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Here.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Everyone writing them off at this point, even though they
came back to beat Jacksonville, say well that's Browning's not
that good. So let us discuss question. Assuming worst case
scenario that Joe Burrow is dun Skis for the Bengals,
that he has dined on snap crackle pop thumbs up
or thumbs down, thumbs up, thumbs down. Can the Bengals
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survive let's say, three months without Joe Burrow? All right?
So I've got ups, Skittles, bag and meatball Hero and
we'll combine all of these things together and we are
gonna put the biscuit in the basket, is what we're
going to do. So my first thought on this is
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when you say survive, they're not gonna die. But in
terms of actually being competitive and in a position to
get in the playoffs, I'm gonna go no, capital N no,
and no they will not. Joe Burrow, for better or worse,
is the he is the franchise. He got paid like
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the franchise, and they just lost the steering wheel. So
if you're driving along and you lose your steering wheel,
it's a problem. If you're in the demolition derby and
you lose your steering wheel, it's a bigger problem. So
you're telling me that Jake Browning, who actually liked when
he played a few years ago, that Jake Browning is
going to keep this GILOPI on the road in Cincinnati
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because you know, at some point the defense is going
to completely unravel, like it's gonna just be tattered in Cincinnati.
So you're gonna have to score more points and you're
gonna have to throw the ball more and browning. The
more you throw, the more interceptions, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera. And it's a self fulfilling prophecy. So this
is a UPS special in honor of our friend Tree
(27:43):
in Chicago. So UPS special. What can browning do for you? Now?
What brown can do for you? What can browning do
for you? Well, you can deliver interceptions. He'll throw some
touchdowns and that's it. Now you can sugarcoat this if
you want. I choose not to, But if you want
to sugarcoat it, you can. You can do that all
you want. It is man up, suck it up. All
that stuff the Shaw musco on blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
(28:05):
blah blah blah. We've all heard the cliches. We've all
heard the cliches, But on this one, I just can't.
I can't go there, cannot do it, cannot do it. Uh?
And Burrow, is it the receiver that makes the court.
The quarterback of a quarterback that makes the receiver? Said, Well,
the Bengals have two absolute studs in Jamar Chase and
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t Higgins as playmakers on offense, and that is true.
And Browning is he gonna gonna use them to the
same degree that Burrow Diediver Burrows hadn't played great to
start the year here in the first couple of games
or so. It was terrible against Cleveland last week. So
what can Browning do for you? Well, what can he
do for you? Let's see, Well, he can put the
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ball in the other team's hands, check that box. That's
what he can do. A lot, a lot of turnovers here,
hero ball one minute, he didn't win the game on
Sunday with a couple of plays late disaster the next though.
You know, he reminds me of the coup on Browning,
the backup for the bank. The comp is like Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Ryan Fitzpatrick the Amish rifle without the beard and lacking charisma.
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Like if you had Ryan Fitzpatrick, you had him shave
and he had no charisma. There you go. So you're
telling me that in the AFC, a conference that has
Lamar Jackson in Baltimore, who's a great regular season player,
fraud in the playoffs, but great regular season player. Kansas
City was now zero and two. So you figure they
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most likely if he continued down this path, there'ud be
a wild card team that's gonna be their path. Although
the AFC West will see what the Chargers do against
the Raiders tonight, and then you've got the Josh Allen
scenario in Buffalos. There's a couple of heavyweights in the AFC,
and Jake Browning is gonna keep you right in the
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middle of that. Now, every time a quarterback gets hurt,
somebody said, well, what about Nick Foles? What about Nick Foles? Okay,
so that's a once a generation thing, spoiler alert, that's
already happened this generation. It's already happened to Nick Foles thing.
This generation. It's not a different generation. It's the same generation.
It's already happened. So if you think that Browning can,
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you know, I'm not saying he can't play well for
a week or two, because usually it's like the dead
cat bounce, the dead cat bounce where the backup comes
in and plays well and there's some excitement there and
teams rally around the backup quarterback, and so I believe
that's a legitimate thing. But long term, if it's a
three month situation for a month. Okay, three months, forget
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about it, right, three months. It's like you know, you know,
smoking smoking crack. If you think that's gonna be the case,
good luck on that. It's not gonna end well now,
page two. So, staying with the theme of the Bengals,
who did win and off to the two and zero
start here, The question is popular opinion among popular people,
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the usual media apologists that can never ever ever blame
the quarterback. It has to be somebody else's fault. Has
to be somebody else's fault. So they don't want to
blame Joe Burrow for being culpable in the situation he's
in Cincinnati. So instead they're like, they're blaming the Bengals
ownership for not protecting Joe Burrow. That that's the issue there.
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And so they said, well, you should have gotten a
better offensive line. That's the main argument, is that the
Bengals did not do a good enough job the front
office and getting an offensive line for Joe Burrow. So
does that work for you? Does that line of thinking
work for you? So I'll go first, and my reaction
is stop, stop, drop and roll. Please, No way that
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is a cop out answer, is what that is, and
it makes me want to puke in my mouth when
I see that here. Joe Burrow himself lobbied. He had
a hissy fit. Burrow, he complained, I gotta get my receivers.
I need my pass catchers. He said, okay, so fine.
They went out and they got his pass catchers. But
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he lobbied the ownership group in Cincinnati to dump a
quarter of the dreaded salary cap on Jamar Chase and T. Higgins.
Gotta have them both, gotta have them both. Most people said, well,
you get rid of T. Higgins, you keep Jamar Chase.
That's fine. No, no, no, Joe Burrow such a diva.
I need both these guys. I need them both. So
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they kept them both. Okay, fine, So I'm as much
a salary cap truther as anyone. The math is the
math on that, though, and certainly with a tight watt
ownership group like in Cincinnati. So the Bengals were only
gonna pay a few guys. Burrow wanted them to pay
Jamar Chase, and they wanted He wanted them to pay T. Higgins,
so they did. Okay, fine, So that's your luxury tax
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in shoulder pads right there, so you paid the wide outs.
You got them the money, and so that's on Joe Burrow.
You're playing GM. Joe, you're playing Lebron. You're the GM.
You wanted these guys, okay, got him, You got So
let's not sugarcoat this. There's no need to put frosting
on it. It don't need to do that, you know.
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Joe Burrow also is I'll see it quietly, injury prone.
Job Burrow is injury prone. I said that. If you
look at his medical chart, have you done this even
if you're blind? Listen to the audio Joe Burrow his
injury chart. It looks like a Skittles bag with all
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the different colors right picked your body part. You get
the green skittle for the ACL, the red skittle for
the MCL, those who have been torn. You've got a
purple skittle for the finger dislocation. You can have the
blue skittle for the calf strand the yellow skittle for
the sprain. And now you can add the turf toe.
I don't even know what other colors are left, but
that's it. So he's the Rainbow Warrior, not a Hawaii
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rainbow Warrior, but a rainbow Warrior of the training room.
That's who Joe Burrow is. That's it, and so congratulations.
He's the fragile rock Burrow. And when he plays usually
it's pretty good, not always, but usually pretty good. And
he misses a lot of times. So you can keep
selling Joe cool, this, that and the other thing if
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every season, every single season, he's on the operating table
in a gurney wearing one of those outfits in the
hospital with the wrist tag and the whole thing. By Halloween,
you are what your record says you are, we'd like
to say in these parts, and you are what your
record says you are. Joe Burrow's record is riddled. He's
got more MRIs than MVPs. How about that, more MRIs
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than MVPs. That's what he's got. And by the way,
by the way, if your quarterback is a Ferrari, congratulations,
you might want to stop driving your Ferrari through potholes.
It generally does not go well. You call a tow truck,
and there's a lot of tow trucks there. The rims
get bent, the frame gets busted, the hood starts smoking,
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and that's pretty much the career of Joe Burrow in Cincinnati.
All right, final point, dude, Jacksonville, we go the Jacksonville
side of things, the Jags on the losing side of
this game. I bring this up because rookie head coach
Liam Kohane in the middle of it, you talk about
being in the frying pan. He got into it during
the game with over raided Trevor Lawrence. I'm old enough
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to remember that Trevor Lawrence at one point generationally all
time great player. You told me that tank for Trevor,
tank for Lawrence. And Trevor Lawrence has been in the
NFL a number of years now, and the only thing
he's good at is getting coaches fired. That's all he's
good at. The guy sucks Trevor Lawrence. So Trevor Lawrence.
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Of course, Jacksonville blew the league because that's what they do.
They lose late to Cincinnati and Trevor Lawrence. You'll get
the numbers away. He had three touchdowns, two interceptions. Anyway,
get to the point. So during the game the loss
to the Bengals on Sunday, there, Trevor Lawrence was caught
on candid camera waving dismissively waving off Liam Khne after
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throwing a inaccurate pass on a crucial down late in
the game. Now, we're big on body language, and you
don't have to be a body language expert to know
this is not good. This is not good. This is
not good at all. Now, during that particular game, Lawrence
did not take kindly to the criticism from Liam Cohne,
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the head coach there, as we said, and he did
not complete the pass where it needed to go. On
the very next play though, after failing to convert on
third down, the Jaguars went forward on fourth down, and
this time Trevor Lawrence did did connect as he hit
Brian Thomas Junior, one of the rare times Thomas caught
(36:53):
a pass as the highly decorator wide receiver not very good,
get targeted twelve times, only caught four passes. Again, I
didn't play in the NFL. I don't think that's good.
I don't think that good. That's good. But the story
here is the interaction between the quarterback and the coach
and the fact that they ended up losing the game
(37:15):
later on, blew the lead in that game. So what
is your reaction? What is your reaction to the Jaguars
Trevor Lawrence dismissively waving off his head coach Liam Kohne
on the sidelines. All right, So this is not nothing.
The only reason this clown, Liam Khne douve aal County.
(37:35):
The only reason this guy has a job is to
fix Trevor Lawrence. Like he is there, not the coach,
the entire roster. He is there because he's like the
next in the lineage of nerds. Liam Kohne is like
the new hot nerd. He's the centerfold nerd, right, and
so you've got the hottest nerd around, Liam Khne. You know,
(37:57):
he was with the Rams, the McVeigh tree, and then
he falling down, and then he went to college and
they went to Tampa, and then he had success with
Baker Mayfield. So he's like the sexiest nerd around and
he was hired to fix Trevor Lawrence. So here they are,
it's the second game of the season and they are
at loggerheads. They are at loggerheads on the sidelines. That
(38:20):
is not just heat of the moment, all right, That's
not like heat of the moment stuff. And all I
said that is body language. Divorce court is what that is? Right.
The quarterback just told his brand new head coach that
was hired for him. Get lost, pal, get a lot
of dope, get out of here. It's bad, that's bad,
(38:43):
all right. That was with the lead, they had the
lead at that time. You got Trevor Lawrence, who cantankerous
when he's ahead in the game. What's gonna happen when
they play Kansas City in a couple of weeks or whatever,
They're down by two scores, how's that gonna go? Sideline
is going to look like Jerry Springer back in the day.
And I'm all there for it. I'm there for it.
(39:04):
It's contentious and you would see or you could see
Liam calling the coach there, pounding his chest like a
gorilla and keep it low. Trevor, keeper low, Trevor like that,
and then Lawrence basically said, shut up, you meet ball hero,
you nerd, and meet ball sandwich. Get out of here.
You lose her. So and anyone. Every time there's a
(39:25):
sideline brujja, people bring up, well, Tom Brady got into
it with Josh McDaniels, he got into it with Bill Belichick,
And that's true, that is absolutely true. But that did
not start happening until Brady had established himself as good.
He wasn't doing that. When people thought he sucked, which
was the first two years of his career, they thought
he was a fraud and was not legit. And then
(39:46):
after a certain period of time people were like, well,
Tom Brady's legit, the real deal, all that stuff, So
you don't do that. Laurence stinks. Does anyone think he's
good under his family fix? He's good, He's terrible. He's
a highly overrated. He got the big contract because Jacksonville
has got low self esteem the franchise as a joke.
They paid the guy without earning the contract because they
(40:07):
were afraid they had, oh my god, we're gonna lose him,
you know, fear of missing out fo mo, and so
they paid him. All right, But if the quarterback is
not there with the coach and it is not good,
so Lawrence is not good and he's not there, doesn't
respect the coach. Keep an eye on this. This is
a it's a tinderbox situation in Jacksonville. It is. If
(40:31):
they're bickering like this on camera, they know the cameras
are on them all the time. When you're in the
NFL game, there's cameras all the time. There's twenty cameras
in an NFL game, they're all focused mostly on the
quarterback and the coach. And you know you're on camera
and you're doing that during the game. Okay with I'm
not gonna say millions because it's Jaguars game, but you know,
fifty people watching, So you have fifty people watching and
(40:53):
imagining the kind of squabbling that must be going on
behind closed doors. The thing about it, what's having Now
here's a Liam Cohen, the head coach of the Jaguars,
trying to downplay shocking, trying to downplay what happened with
his quarterback.
Speaker 6 (41:08):
Take all, listen, it was just one throw. I was
just you know, it is what it is. It's not
that's emotion. It's not personal ever to bet. You know,
that's just kind of me getting worked up. So he
threw a dime in the back of the end zone.
It don't make a play, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
He was.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
I was very pleased with his competitive nature, the ways
come on the sidelines that he doesn't get. You know,
he's pretty even keel, which is good for me.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
I need that. Let me clear my throat here, bull crap,
excuse me, I'm sorry about that. Uh yeah, come on, please,
you know what it looked like. It looked like a
father yelling at his teenage son to clean your room, dude,
ball pick it up, Trevor, and then Trevor slams the
(41:58):
door right in your face, right in your face. It's
not exactly the leadership not respect. Would have been funny
if the coach had come out and said, oh, yeah, yeah,
we hate each other. We got to work together. We
can't stand each other. He hates me, he thinks I'm
a nerd. I think he's highly overrated. He's gonna get
me fired Trevor Lawrence. Now that would be funny. But
what a mess. So you got the quarterback who's like,
(42:20):
this guy's a dork, and my coach is a dork,
and Cohen's not. Not no of these nerd guys, No
of the nerds. Just like in Miami, right, you got
great ex's and those guy, but no leadership skills. That
generally does not end very well in that business. That
does not end well. You need the alpha, not the omega.
He's an omega and not an alpha, and that's a problem.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
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Speaker 1 (42:50):
It's Mallard. How about that?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
To the third degree, this is one big ben gets grilledo.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
Texas fans are starting to turn on arch Manning. As
the Longhorn struggled in the first half against the UTEP,
they boot him boom.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (43:07):
Texas was like a six touchdown favorite and ended up
winning by only seventeen. Benet's still early, But do you
think Manning has already lost his projected number one draft status?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
All right, So first of all, I look at arch
Manning the same way I look at J. J. McCarthy.
Both of them were spoon fed arch Manning. How many
is two years? Three years? He's already been in Austin
JJ McCarthy last year off. You cannot struggle against San
Jose State and sm Those are show up win domin
eight games. It's embarrassing. Now he's still got the Manning name.
(43:36):
So I'm not going to close the door that arch
Manning will be a top pick in the draft. But
it's not looking good. He looks like he doesn't know
what he's doing. It's embarrassing. I thought the guy was
gonna be good. He sucks.
Speaker 7 (43:48):
Next, it was reported over the weekend that Baltimore Ravens
were set to take Shadur Sanders ahead of the Browns,
but that Sanders got word of the team that he
did not want to be taken by Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Do you think that was the right move by Shador? Well,
let's see, he's the third string quarterback on the Cleveland Browns,
one of the worst teams in the NFL. He's really
the four string quarterback because that report over the weekend
said he doesn't even run the scout team, that Bailey
Zappi runs the scout team like you're not good enough,
You're not Hello. Of course it was not the right move.
(44:18):
Do something other than live off your daddy's last name.
Speaker 7 (44:21):
Next, Carmelo Anthony was inducted into the Pro Basketball Hall
of Fame on Saturday, but it said that Melo won't
have his number retired by anyone, Ben, Do you think
that'll be the case.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Well, they hate him in Denver because he screwed over
the Nuggets. He wasn't that great with the Knickerbockers. So
who else is he good? I don't know. Is there
anyone else that can retire his number? Like Carmelo put
up a lot of points. There's the definition of a
stat Bandito Carmelo, Anthony. That guy total fraud. All right,
how do we do? Kobolo? You pass the guy? I won,
(44:52):
Mike Phelepricaan, I won the game snooker.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
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Speaker 1 (45:09):
Hey you sports figure, guy or girl? Who here? Were
you talking to? Songs? Here some incident advice?
Speaker 7 (45:16):
Hold that don no one's paid attention to me for
ten whole seconds.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
And if you don't like it, anyway, we go. It'see
instant advice line, unscreened radio. Who needs our advice? Well,
it's only won a couple options, but we are gonna
go with the head coach of the Chicago Bears. They
won the offseason. Congratulations Chicago Bears. They are off to
the er and two start. Got smacked around Ben Johnson?
(45:43):
What's wrong with Ben Johnson? So advice to Ben Johnson
and the Chicago Bears. Off to the zero and two start,
and you're live on the air. When you hear my
voice say Hello you online one. You're on the airline one. Hello,
your advice to the Bears.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Line one more, look at it's not fair go to
and they choose the sad before they even get married.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
You get room. Yeah, that's good point, that's a we
should change that. Hello, you should decide after the wedding. Hello,
you're on the air line too. Hello, line too, we're
giving advice comparing the twenty twenty World Series to the
ridiculous Mickey Mouse Championship. Use your brain exactly, great call.
That's a solid call, Fergie, Good job by you. Line five,
you're on the airline five.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Hello, Garata cogarata.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Okay, was that poppy? I don't know how Line one, Hello,
you're on the airline one. Go jazz Chism needs to
shut up before he unless he makes the playoffs this year.
Oh I saw that. Yeah, jazz chishms. The Yankees have arrived.
They went they went out and lost to the Red Sox. Hello.
Line four. Hello, Line four, you're on the airline for
advice to Ben Johnson. Line for the Bears coach in
(46:47):
that field, not for losers. Yeah, morning time right there. Now,
you're definitely not ricking Maryland. Hello, caller. You're on the air, caller, Hello,
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, Hello you Okay,
that's a fake holler, and James stop that hello call.
You're on the air. We give you advice to Ben Johnson.
Coach Ben Johnson, the Chicago Bears off to the oh
(47:10):
and two start.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Bears football is supposed to be like making Web two midget.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Okay, thank you for that. This line eight seven seven
ninety nine. On Fox. Line five, you're on the airline five. Hello,
I would.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
Advise the head coach of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Look at the candy Cooper looppot, that's the lash.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Okay, there you go. It's the candy bar of the coop.
But hello, line five, you're on the airline five toenail polish. Yeah,
well they do have that. The Bears lead the NFL
in toenail polish and just nail polish in general. Line
number one Hello, line one, JJ McCarthy is about as
useful as a lepre con Okay, there you go, we
(47:49):
do have a Leprechaun call. You're on the airline three,
Go headline three.
Speaker 5 (47:54):
That's the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
Okay, there's all that's our buddy from Banks. One more
only one more of us good, I'll take credit. Hurry up, Cooper,
mind you line too. You're on the your line to go, go.
Speaker 6 (48:05):
Like co Cocaraca.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
There you go. What great advice to Ben Johnson. That'll
help out the Bears a lot right there,
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