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October 24, 2025 • 46 mins

Big Ben talks about Chauncey Billups and Terry Rozier getting arrested by the FBI for various gambling scandals, Carson Wentz and the Vikings getting blown out by Justin Herbert and the Chargers, Maller to the Third Degree, Lame Jokes of the Week, and more!

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(02:33):
of stuff has to happen for us not to go there.
But I assume you've heard and been partaking in the
feeding frenzy that has been taking place the last twenty
hours or so, not that long, I tell you that
would be the Feds. The Feds have arrested an active
NBA head coach and an active NBA player. That seems

(02:57):
like a big deal. That seems like a bit. Don't
that You are obviously innocent until proven guilty. Chauncey Billups,
mister big shot Piston's legend who's been coaching toiling on
the Oregon Trail with the Portland Trailblazers going back to
their roots as the Jail Blazers.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
And Terry Rozier, who.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
At one point was a valuable member the Boston Celtics.
He's been bouncing around the NBA, currently with the Miami Heat,
although I'm I'm guessing he's never going to play for
them again. But anyway, so you had Rosier, you had Billups.
They were among thirty people who had a really bad day.
Thirty people had really you think you had a bad Thursday,

(03:41):
They had a worse Thursday. And two separate, they claim related,
but separate, federal gambling investigations that involved the NBA and
the Mob, the NBA and the Mob. Hello. Now again
this is the version of the FBI. They don't bat
a thousand, but they bat about nine hundred. So card

(04:04):
of the FBI.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
These schemes. Boy, this is good reading, man, This is
good reading. Is what this is.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
So one of them focused on insider sports betting, another
that rigged poker games.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Coast stuck coast did and bordered the border.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
And this went on for years, involving they claimed tens
of millions of dollars. Now, remember the problem the Feds
have with gambling illegally is they don't get a cut
of the money, right, they don't get the Yeah, they're
not paying taxes on that. Of course, from what I
read as I understand the story, there's also some very
wealthy people that got their pants pulled down in this

(04:40):
and they're not happy about it.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
So those things together create.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
The situation we have now where there's tens of millions
of dollars of illicit gains. Wire fraud. That's why they
couldn't remember that. I remember in a book years ago
about how they took down the mob. Right, wire fraud,
that was the thing right before that they couldn't take
down the mob, wirefraud, money laundering, extortion, all the big
hits there, and of course gambling. So that's a good

(05:05):
jumping off point. It's a massive, massive story. So let
us discuss the question, what was your initial reaction to
Trailblazer's coach Chauncey Bilts and heat guard Terry Rosier both
being arrested by the NBA.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
All right, so that's the question.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
So I've got Einstein Brothers, Apollo Theater, and Farmers Market.
We're gonna mix all of these things together and we're
gonna make a three team parlay.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Is what we're gonna make, all right.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
So a my first thought here is absolutely bonkers. Where
the capitol b bonkers? Is what I'm thinking. That was
my initial thought here. This story actually started bubbling up
before I went to bed. I've got some crazy sleep

(05:59):
schedu going on, so people were blowing up my phone
a little bit, and by the time I woke up,
there was an FBI news conference in Brooklyn that it
took took place taking place, and so it was it
was like all hell Brooklews and uh oh my, uh
wow uh And I's like, no, this is this kid?

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Is this really? Is that really? What happened? Okay, okay, wow,
I want to know more about it? Uh so?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Uh what a way to tip off the NBA season.
How about that Adam Silver.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
That's you like? That is as that taste? Yeah? Good? Okay?
Uh so?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, you know what happens when you assume we assume
the storylines that we would be yapping about here to
begin the NBA season were wemby joelmb looking like he
should have a wheelchair and load management. But no, no,
we're talking about the FBI kicking in doors and taking
away NBA guys in handcuffs after games after games. Wawi

(07:01):
Becauzawie would apply here.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Now.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
I mentioned my phone blew up and when I woke up,
and I had an idea that it was about this. Now,
normally this only happens when somebody gets fired, I get fired,
or someone dies. So the story I was looking into
the details here, and I assume you've heard some of it.
Maybe not, Maybe you actually have a life and you
don't obsessed with this kind of stuff. So I'm digging

(07:25):
into it, right, I'm getting really deep into it, and
I'm like, this is great.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
I'm in I'm all about.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
This action and This story is like going to Einstein
Brothers the bagel shop and ordering the everything bagel.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
It's got something for everyone.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
It's got a hall of famer, a man that hit
some massive baskets.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
If you're of the age to remember the Pistons.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
That no name, no Hall of Fame type team and
no all time great player. The Pistons team that ended
up winning the championship. Of course, he is a Hall
of Fame level ballplayer, Chauncey Billops. But the team when
they beat the Lakers, of course, that was more with
the Laker injuries and whatnot in the NBA Finals.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
But you got that.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
You got Terry Rozier when he played for the Celtics,
he had the nickname Scary Terry. If you like mob movies,
he got the Italian Mafia. It spans eleven states. You
got rigged poker games over here in places like the Hamptons.
That's where all the aristocrats hang out, all the a
holes in the Hamptons, Miami Vegas, where we're broadcasting from Manhattan.

(08:29):
I mean, this is like watching a Scorsese flick, is
what this is. It's Goodfellas NBA Edition, Goodfellas NBA Edition
and my favorite mob movies, not The Godfather.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
It is Goodfellas.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I love Goodfellow great, just absolutely great, and you could
not script it better. You got Rosier, you know, based
on what I read here telling the Mob that if
you believe the FBI story, and again it's a version
of the truth, not the whole truth, but Rosier telling
the Mob, Hey, I'm gonna fake an injury so you
guys can hit the under on the on the prop bets,

(09:04):
which you know, I don't know what. I just do
an overnight show, do I know? But that doesn't seem
very subtle. It's like walking into the casino wearing a
neon sign that says I'm fixing the game I'm playing
over here.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Hello, Yeah, this isn't some tiki tac violation. This is
the doomsday scenario for the for the NBA. And it's
it's funny because obviously I like gambling. I think adults
should be able to gamble. This is obviously part of
the deal. You're gonna have to deal with this kind
of stuff from time to time. But you know, it's

(09:40):
just this is what the commissioners for years and oh
you cut out have gambling. This is the worst thing
in the world and all this stuff. But then all
of a sudden they saw the checks that they got
from gambling, and oh.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, we're fine. But this is the worst not the
worst case.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I guess the worst case scenario would be we like
the Chicago black socks scandal from back back in the day.
But nonetheless, uh, you know, it has been been like
they've been pretending this can't happen.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
And all that stuff, and well it's it's happened.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
So now it's real and this is gonna make one
hell of a great Netflix true crime doc and I'm
in on it. I will watch every episode. I will
binge watch it, binge watch it. I don't normally binge watch.
I can't sit there for that long. I have to
go do stuff, but I will binge watch. And this
is still in progress right now. And you know, who

(10:30):
knows what to believe if people are sending me messages this,
you know, naming certain people they think are are gonna
come chopping down next.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
And the theory is these guys were not alone.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
This was not a one off situation where normally these
guys hang out with other friends who are from former
employees they worked with or whatever. And former co workers
are basketball players or current basketball players. So there's some
people right now who know these gentlemen and know they
might be on some kind of list or something like that,

(11:02):
that are not sleeping. We'd like to welcome them to
the mal or militia. And I don't know what they're
gonna call the Netflix true crime doc. Maybe whack Jobs
and point guards or something like that. But you can
get the ominous piano music playing and all that, and
imagine a world where the unders hit early and the
FBI hits earlier. Yeah, something like that. I think that

(11:22):
she could work. Yeah, I think that it would work.
So we'll see what happens about you. You guys, strap
in there, because this is this is not going away.
This is a nuke in Adam Silver's lap. And the
chatter again, the chatter who knows what's right not? You know,
nobody knows anything, and people are people love to gossip
and they love for some reason they have to tell

(11:43):
me crap.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
I don't know why, what do I know?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
They're claiming there's some other big fish, including a very
well known boxer who will be involved in this.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
We'll see if that happens.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Or not, And I don't want to get sued, so
I'm not naming anyone at all. I know nothing, I
see nothing. I'm not naming anyone. You can figure it
out on your own. I don't feel I don't want
to get sued, So boom, there you go. Anyway, I
turning the page, but not far as we bite in
to the meal and there's a lot of meat on

(12:15):
the bone. There's a lot of meat on the bone.
So the headlines, which are just delicious, and this thing
has been blowing up all day long into the night now.
And one of the questions, I think it's a legitimate question,
and it's kind of the obvious one. It's like, you
see these headlines, Oh my god, oh man, oh mercy.

(12:36):
You know, there's a big effing And so if you
get down to it, how much jail time are Terry
Rosier and Chauncey Billups actually facing?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
How much are they actually facing?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
So if let's just take out the malor of machete
and cut through the dog and pony show. So the
FBI put on their own dog and pony show, right,
that's what they put on.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
You know, that's a big deal, high profile arrests.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Law enforcement loves it because it gets a lot of
attention and people love to talk about it and makes
them look good. And so the FBI loves when they
can nail the big ragou and so this is good
for them. But you hear these very big numbers being
tossed around, you read different things, and you're like, well,

(13:25):
social media facing up to ten years or up to
twenty years in jail and that part of it. And
maybe I'll be wrong on this. I might be wrong
on this. However, it is my theory that those early
reports are a trip to the Apollo Theater and there's
a special showing at the Apollo Theater. It's called Kabuki Theater.

(13:46):
Er go, it's all a mirage. Now my hot take
you ready for Buckle up Benny's hot take, first hour
hot take, when the dust settles. None of these cats,
the in terms of Billups and Rosier, are going to
do real hard time. Now, it's easy for me to say,
you know, we've got guys that are incarcerated listening to

(14:07):
the show, and I know our buddy in Pennsylvania who's
he's getting out soon from Chicago and announced at some
point here not that far away, but he's doing some
serious time. You know, I would for me, serious time
would be like you know, a day now, that would
be that would be pretty bad. But what's gonna happen
here is the lawyers are going to get a bag.
Everyone else will be given the opportunity to sing like

(14:29):
a canary, and before you know it, these guys are
going to be having cocktails in Cancun. And remember up
to up to is a classic weasel phrase. Now, the
first domino to fall in this story was Johntay Porter
of the Toronto Raptors formerly and he hasn't been sentenced yet.

(14:51):
He's going to be sentenced in December, and so he's
looking at here we are in late October.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
He's looking at up to four years.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
However, it is believed that he snitched, which likely led
likely possibly led to it we have going on the
last twenty four hours. He gave the right names up
and so he'll likely get a sweetheart deal. As for
Billups and Rosier, they're not exactly El Chapo, if you.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Know what I'm saying on that. So they are celebrities.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Billups a bigger name, but he is he's a former
celebrit You don't have a star when you're coaching the
Trailblazers and Rosiers and roster spam at this point, so
their accessories. Though in a gambling ring, you gotta find
a way if your billups, to blame the interpreter, right,
it's always the joke here, Just find a way. Say
I have an interpreter who he interprets the Italian mob

(15:44):
for me. That's the silver bullet. Otani's playing in the
World Series on Friday Night, and he was involved in
one of these stories. Now, the worst case is these
guys get you sent inced a couple years in jail
or something like that. But realistically, you're gonna get a
little jail time at club and then some probation. You're
gonna have to pay a big fine and all that,
and your reputation is trashed. And that's what's gonna happen.

(16:06):
But when they just you know, they have to update
their passport to find a new gig, and you can
go coach in Vatican City. I think there's a team
called the Vocaros in Vatican City or the Monaco mad
Men or something like that.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
But the only people.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Guaranteed to win here again to the lawyers, they always win,
they always win, they do all right. Last word, So
we go now thirty thousand feet in the sky, and
we asked the question for the esteem panel, what is
the fallout from this latest wrinkle in the NBA gambling underworld,

(16:41):
if you will, So what is the fallout on this? Well,
the streets have been talking, and there's and we're gonna
talk about as if we go through the overnight. But
we're hearing the you know, Congress is already there's people
trying to get some free publicity like well, we're gonna,
we're gonna look at this, and so that to me,
that is Congress is going to ride in on their
white horse and save America from prop bets. There'll be

(17:04):
special hearings on Capitol Hill, and this is rather obvious
stuff here. Lawmakers are going to drag Adam Silver, Roger Goodell,
rob Manfraud, and Gary Bettman, the four horsemen of the
gambling apocalypse, to DC.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
And the chatter is.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
That Congress is going to propose out long or putting
restrictions on prop bets and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Now you know who wins on that.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Here's the ironic part if you play this out and
looking at this logic, can you tell me if I'm
wrong or not.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
I don't think I'm wrong on this, Okay, of course,
I never almost never think i'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
But let's assume go down the rabbit hole where Congress
eventually bans prop bets. Okay, you with me on that?
So far, you're good? Okay, you shut your hand, yes,
all right, so you know who ends up winning? The
Italian mafia they win. Congress is not saving anyone from anything.
They're just pushing it back to the to the alley
behind the sub shop. Seriously, if the US, if Congress

(18:01):
bans prop bets, okay, the mob throws a welcome home party.
Doctor Vinnie Boombots has got balloons and Canoli's waiting.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Come on down and don't fool yourself.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
The props are have become the lifeblood of modern gambling.
And you take that away, the action is not gonna stop.
It's not It's just gonna go underground. That's just the
way it is. You go to the farmer's market, it's
forbidden fruit, the forbidden fruit effect, prohibited items gain mystique.

(18:38):
Have you read about prohibition and what that? Did you
know a million years ago in America, the Mob propapalooza, cash,
no oversight, no paper trail. Of course everything's done on
phones now, so they'd have to have something online, but
it would be prohibition two point zero. You cannot outlaw demand,
and so you're just gonna hand it. If they didn't

(18:59):
ban these things and outlaw them legally, you're just gonna
hand them back to the wise guys and make sure
you put a.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Nice, big red bow, big red bow on top.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
So if this happens, Congress gets its, it gets you know,
it's press conference.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
The league gets to say, hey, you know, we've.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Got integrity now, we want our fans to know everything's good,
and the Mob gets rich again. Brilliant what could go wrong?
Great plan.

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was gonna be at originally, and I'm glad the schedule
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secret bunker.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Just down outside.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
There's a bunch of drunk people that just smell disgusting
that are walking around. But anyway, we're hanging out here.
I was gonna go to Sofi Stadium to see the game.
Carson Wentz was driving the Purple People Eater's caravan as
it rolled into the.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Into the hood in Inglewood.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
For a little playdate with Justin Herbert and the Lightning Bolts,
and he had Al Michael's there.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Al loves that he lives over in Brentwood. It's so close.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
He just has to stay on the four for a
little bit, make his way down the four or five
boom right there in Englewood and.

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Kirk kurb Street, who hates it because he doesn't live
on the West Coast.

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He has a flyout for it. They had the call
on the Amazon, so I don't know if you watched
it or not. Chargers had their throwback uniforms. That is
a signed by the way, you're getting old. My first
couple of years in radio, I started in San Diego,
and those were the uniforms.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
The Chargers war. Now their throwback.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Oh my god, anyway, justin Herbert two hundred and twenty
seven yards passing in three touchdowns and the Chargers send
the Vikings to the electric Chair, where they blow out
with twenty seven point win.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
They won by twenty.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Seven points on Thursday night, ending a skid of three
losses in four games, and had knocked them out of
the AFC West catbird seat.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
They had all those early.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Wins over AFC West opponents, and now they fall on
hard times, but the Chargers get back into the win
call him here an unexpectedly easy win. The Chargers win
four days after being trampled by the Colts in that
same ballpark.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
They get destroyed.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Now.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
The better story is in the losing locker room, where
the Vikings have now lost consecutive games for the first
time this season, both coming in a five day span.
They lost to Philly at home, a game where they
had plenty of opportunities, were able to matriculate the ball
down in the red zone and the offense fizzled in

(24:26):
the red zone. But certainly not the case here, as
it was just a debacle from beginning to end, from
Alpha to Omega, the Minnesota offense managed just twelve first downs.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
That's it. Twelve, I'm told that's not good.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Three of eleven on third down and had the ball
for just twenty one minutes. Oh my god. So that's
a good jumping off point. Let us discuss the question
what the heck happened to Kevin o'conddle's Minnesota vikings. So
my observations of this, I've got bootleg vhs, copy, ice cube,

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together and we are going to make a very expensive
cup from a tiki bar. Very expensive, very very expensive. Okay,
you should not purchase anyone number why? I said number Why?

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So in the holiday spirit, we are a week away
from Halloween, Minnesota, I know what happened. They came out
to La they went to Spirit Halloween, and they showed
up in the wrong damn costume.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
That's what happened.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Instead of the purple people eater uniforms, they came out
dressed like Gang Green. They played like the Jets. You're
not the Jets. Stop playing like the Jet. That was lifeless.
That was aloof that was zero juice. Now, as you know,
we do Benny versus the Penny, and we do it,
you know, every game, every Thursday night game, and then
we have all the other big games on the weekend.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
We handicap.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
And it's very frustrating when you expect an honest performance,
when you assume that you're going to get effort, because
why why else would you bother watching this? And my
main criticism and people say, well, Carson Wentzon, We'll get
to Carson Wentz because he was terrible, and he said, well,
I'll give him a pass. Brian flores his defense though,

(26:26):
and to me, that's a bigger that is a bigger
thing for the Vikings. Yet the bread and butter of
that squad is the defense. Good defense, bread and butter.
They were burnt toast is what they were. The Chargers
converted sixty nine on third down, almost seventy percent on
third down. They had four hundred nineteen yards of offense,

(26:48):
held the ball for thirty nine freaking minutes.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
That's not defense. That's daycare, is what that.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
And you want arm tackles, check, you want miss tackles,
check check. You want bad per suit angles check check check.
They looked like they had all gotten together. In the
game film they watched a bootleg VHS copy of NFL
films Super Duper Football Follies is what they watched. Don't
forget also poor coverage, bad pass rush check check check

(27:18):
check check check check. Justin Herbert, who was running for
his life. I know the Chargers got some guys back,
they didn't get everyone back. Herbert completed seventy two percent
of his passes. He averaged nine point one yards attempt
per attempt nine point one yards perttempt.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Do you uns down incompetent?

Speaker 1 (27:36):
How you just aren't even trying if you're on defense,
if you allow that kind of efficiency. Kevin O'Connell, the coach,
looked lost. Looked like a guy holding a map trying
to read it and it was upside down. He never
turned it the right side, I mean, my gott and
there were no adjustments. There was no fire, no fire

(27:56):
from the king. I did see a couple players get
upset because their teammates were not in the proper position,
but the rest of the guys looked like they had
no clue. There was zero fight. They were like a soft,
warm pretzel, which I love. A sophomore Pretzel. I don't
want my football team. I don't want my football team
to play like that, and you can't fake the energy. Well,

(28:16):
now we are going to address the snuffle uffagus in
the room, and that would be Carson Wentz, who also sucked.
Wentz horrible numbers. Just the numbers aren't as bad as
he played, finished with one hundred and forty four yards,
had a touchdown, an interception, got sacked five times. Now
the big headline. This was featured on the Amazon broadcast.

(28:37):
They was talking point he played through a left shoulder
injury that, based on his body language and his moaning
on the field, he had aggravated it multiple times. Here's
Kevin O'Connell. People criticizing O'Connell. You left Wentz in there.
You could have taken them out earlier in the game.
You left him in there. Explain yourself, coach.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
We kept on, you know, checking in, maybe getting Max
ready to go. But he you know, you know, Tyler
was coming to me a lot tonight, but every time
he seemed to update me on that. You know, Carson
was uh, you know, he was sore going into it,
and he was able. He took obviously quite a few
hits and and but he was able to. You know,

(29:20):
I asked him multiple times, you know, where he was at,
and he he he said he was good and wanted
to keep going. I know, it did seem like he was,
you know, in pain there a couple of times, a
few times.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
So the body language was it looked like he was
literally on his deathbed. He appeared like they could bring
in a priest and a rabbi and give him his
last right.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
So the way Wentz was acting.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
On the field, here's Carson Wentz. You were hurt, you
were playing. You look like you were about to drop
dead on the field. Explain yourself. Carson Wentz was trying.

Speaker 7 (29:51):
To do everything I can to help this team, you know. Okay,
I think confident, even with the pain, that I can help,
you know, I can contribute and make plays and spread
this ball around.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
And you know, I thought we did it okay.

Speaker 7 (30:02):
At times, left plenty of things out there. The interception,
you know, I thought I thought maybe we had a
little chance to kind of put something together and go
down there, and I just kissed it, you know, And
I gotta be better there. But yeah, at the end
of the day, I feel like I'm physically able to
go whether.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
It hurts or not.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah, there's a guy that was what you just said
there completely wrong. All right, So the question does Carson
Wentz get immunity?

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Does he get immunity.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
From criticism because he played through a shoulder that was
barking like.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
A dog the injury.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
So on my scorecard, I wrote down two letters N
and oh no, no, he was cleared to play. Carson Wentz,
you don't get a gold star near your name because
your shoulder was causing you issues and you played, and

(30:59):
you played. The reason these historic games and sports, the
Flu game, which I guess was not even the Flu
game with Michael Jordan, the Kobe Bryant version of that,
those are special games because they played well and they
were battling some kind of what now is called neurovirus.
Back then it was called the flu. Simpler times, simpler times.

(31:22):
I just want to point that out. The neurovirus thing
very annoying. I grew up with the flu. I'm not
ready to call it the neurovirus. I just want to
point that out. Anyway, Carson Wentz's fair game, he is.
He made the charger defense, which looked like wet tissue
paper a couple days ago against Danny Dimes, and the
Colts look like the two thousand Ravens. Okay, and remember

(31:46):
it's hurt versus injured. If you're injured, you sit. If
you're hurt, you play and you produce. Went did neither.
He stunked from head to toe, as John Tortorella so
famously said back and so to me, there's no excuse.
And you know O'Connell also like, what are you doing,

(32:06):
Like open your eyes? You know Stevie Meatballs is blind
and he could see that this was a disaster, inca terror.
Was like, I'm screaming. I can see this and I
can't see anything, but I know this is bad. Playing
through pain does not make up for playing like a bum.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
It just doesn't. I'll be the I'll be the bad guy,
all right now, Page two.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
So on the Chargers side, the question must be asked,
if you watched any of this game? The star of
the show, well, Justin Herbert had really sexy stats. The
question being asked by many. Have Jim Harbaugh's Chargers solve
their running back dilemma with the emergence of Kamani Vidal,
the running back who I had never heard of. I

(32:49):
know he had a good game a couple of weeks
ago into the Dolphins, but my god.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
So I'll answer this.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
The Chargers clearly think they've unearthed a hidden gem in
the human bowling ball of a back Commandy Vidal.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
This guy, it is a redemption story.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
The guy was a Troy Trojan, not a USC Trojan,
a Troy Trojan six round pick. He was actually fired
by the Chargers. He was dumped. He was released at
the end of training camp. Back off the scrap heap.
Now suddenly he was running around. He looks like if
you're old enough to remember when Reice Jones Drew, who

(33:27):
had a good career played with Jacksonville mostly Maurice Jones.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Drew look like that. He looked like you.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Maybe a little bigger or a smaller, but ways more
look good on a tablet. The stats one hundred and
seventeen yards average five point one yards per rush.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Hello. And for those of you that are blind that
don't know what's he look like.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
He's built like a keg of beer, Like if you
got a keg of medello. That's what it was. He's
five to eight fifteen five eight two fifteen. He was
running through the Vikings like they were traffic cones, like
he was at the combine and he was.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Just running through.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
However, I would not advise a ticker tape parade. Yet
you can stop that right now. The Vikings defense looked
like it was doing the limbo out there, as we said,
arm tackles to the right, bad angles to the left,
total lolligagging everywhere. And I'm convinced your Babushka could have
averaged four yards to carry against the defensive effort from

(34:34):
the Minnesota Vikings in that game. And so I will
quote the great ambassador of the world ice Cube, who
said it best you better check yourself before you wreck yourself,
that this might be more about Minnesota's Mattato defense ho
eh o, than Vidal becoming the next great running back

(34:54):
of our time.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
I'm pulling for.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
I always love the bug on the rug, the little
fat running back, those all these fun players to watch.
They are remember Darren Sproll's long career in the NFL.
Love watching him play right because he's so These guys
are so small, even though he's built physically like a
beer keg, they're so little. He's like five eight and
Darren Sproles was five to six, you know, and he

(35:18):
appeared to know what he was doing as far as blocking. Again,
he wasn't getting challenged her Vidal. But that's how you
get on the field in the NFL if you're a nope,
if you block, especially for a guy like Jim Harbaugh,
and so he fits that esthetic. He's short, thick, he's
got a mean streak to him, which you kind of
have to be. If you're a six round pick out
of Troy. You know, you weren't getting toddled at Ohio

(35:41):
State with nil money. If you're going to Troy, you know,
maybe you get some money for the vending machine.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Possibly. But I have seen this.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Movie before one big game, Remember I forget the guys,
and I was trying to think when I was I
was coming in here to the studio. There was a
guy for the Patriots, somebody I know. You might know
if you're listening. There was a one hit wonder for
the Patriots in the glory days of the Belichick run.
The guy it was, if I remember correctly, cause I
did a monologue about it. I forgot, you know, so
long ago. But he had a monster game against I

(36:10):
want to say, the Colts in one of those big
matchups between Tom Brady and I think Peyton Manning was on.
The Colts had a huge game, and then we never
heard from him again, and.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
It was like, he's very odd. It was like, what happened?
Where'd that guy go? I don't know, I forget his name,
though I got the Google machine. I guess I could
look that up. But man alive it was. It was
absolutely crazy.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Anyway, So one big game when we've seen this happen,
then three weeks later we're like, what happened to that guy? So, no,
it doesn't mean the Chargers have solved the Rubik's qbe
at the running back position. However, you certainly want to
see what this guy's got. You want to give him
some more opportunities, and you know, they might have found
a serviceable running back who certainly showed he can feast

(36:52):
on a soft defense. He played well against the Dolphins,
as we said, and so now he does it against
the Vikings, and so we'll see what happens when he
plays a team that's actually engage and is trying to
tackle you and not use arm tackling. So I wouldn't
buy stock yet I would keep the confetti in the box.
I would not open the box with the confetti. All right,
final point back to the Vikings we go where doctor

(37:14):
David Chowell, a former Chargers team doctor better known if
you're on social media as the pro Football Doc, and
he has tossed out a mouthwatering conspiracy theory about the
Minnesota football team manipulating the injured list.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, how crazy is that? You see it? No, he
didn't say, Okay, I'll give you the details on this.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
So doctor Chow says that quarterback JJ McCarthy is hiding
behind a health situation and he didn't play in this game.
Are talking about Carson Wentz went out there and was horrific.
So this was the second week in a row that
the Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell had McCarthy as the

(37:57):
emergency third quarterback, meaning that the doctors had cleared him
to play. So question thumbs up or thumbs down to
the Vikings embellishing quarterback JJ McCarthy's injury status to keep
him on the bench and claiming, well, we want him

(38:18):
only when he's one hundred percent. So I'm gonna go
thumbs up on that. You can say, well, that's not
really a conspiracy. It's just gamesmanship. Okay, Okay. What the
Vikings are doing with this is they're sending him to
the shadow realm. This is classic shadow band stuff. He's
almost ready, but not quite. And it's a beautiful scam.

(38:41):
You got coach Kevin O'Connell looking around thinking, man, I
can squeeze some games out of wins, and I may
be able to win a couple of these things.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
There's no need to rush the red shirt rookie back
into the game to be eaten by the Bears and
these He beat the Bears, but the Lions the teams
in the division.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
So instead Minnesota, they said, we're going to keep listing
McCarthy as an emergency quarterback, even though the doctors have
already medically cleared him. So if you're healthy enough to
be an emergency quarterback, as I understand it, you're healthy
enough to, you know, actually play in the game. So
this is not a medical thing. This is an incompetence thing.

(39:20):
And the coaches don't trust JJ McCarthy's anyone.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Disagree with that. I don't see anyone shaking their head.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
No.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
And O'Connell, he's got plausible deniability.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
He can say, Wow, we just want the ballplayer to
be one hundred percent. That's all we want.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Well, no one's ever one hundred percent right, and not
certainly not week eight of an NFL season. And the
reality is, and it's the quiet part we're going to
say out loud. JJ McCarthy was overwhelmed. He wasn't ready
early in the season. Any anyone that knows anything about
football knows he was not prepared to play quarterback in

(39:53):
the NFL. They were upset and people watching him. I
guarantee if people behind the scenes are like, oh my god,
what do we do? So they're stashing him. It is
a timeless strategy in the NFL. Sleight of hand. Sleight
of hand.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
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Speaker 3 (40:14):
It's Mallar. How about d to the third degree?

Speaker 2 (40:18):
This is one big event?

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Gets grilled Kouperlo.

Speaker 8 (40:23):
Dylan Gabriel has been serviceable at best since becoming QB
one in Cleveland. Many fans want the team to consider
Shador after the team's Week nine bye. If things go
poorly this Sunday against the Patriots. But is there any
chance of that happening.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Oh, yeah, there's a chance because Dylan Gabriel is no good.
But a lot of these stories that are out there
about Shadar Sanders, it's just clickbait because people have determined
in the media that he's popular because his dad was
a good player, and even though he's not that good
apparently because he's not playing for the Cleveland Browns. So
that's number one, and you're just trying to engage, you're
getting engagement farming. Yeah, at some point, Dylan Gabriel, if

(40:58):
he doesn't play better, is going to be replaced.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
That is how this works. He's not very good right now.

Speaker 8 (41:03):
Next, an NFL insider reported on Wednesday that the Cowboys
could make multiple moves at the trade deadline. Ben, do
you think Dallas is only a couple pieces on defense
away from being legit contenders?

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yes, if they can get Aiden Hutchinson, I can get
him into trade. And also, I don't know who all
you give me a great lineback? I mean, yeah, they
get two impact players? Sure, why not?

Speaker 3 (41:24):
It's not good.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
That's much like we just talked about the quarterback Sreur Sanders.
It's not going to It's just trying to get clicks,
is what you're doing. Jerry Jones. I don't believe he's
gonna pull the trigger on any major trades. I just
think this is all chatter and nonsense. But yeah, if
the Cowboys got two impact defensive players, their offense will.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Be able to score. I have two stud receivers.

Speaker 8 (41:45):
Next, after Dave Dombrowski's comments about Bryce Harper earlier, if
the Yankees fans and analysts think the former MVP could
be dealt to the Bronx, Ben is that a pipe dream?

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Well, the issue is he's got a no trade class
like a full note trade clause, Bryce Harper so and
he's got a Phillies tattoo, so good luck on that.
He does want more money, so if the Phillies don't
want to redo his contract, then yeah, he's actually underpaid
by modern baseball standards.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
How did we do, Cooper loop?

Speaker 8 (42:15):
Then you pass this edition?

Speaker 3 (42:16):
That is a win.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
I put it on the part what the guy yet
it game? I cannot be stopped at Malo third degree.

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Speaker 3 (42:42):
It's Big Ben's lame joke of the week.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
All right, here you go, Big Ben's lamb jokes is
our buddy, the rockstar weed.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Man Hippie from Miami. There, Hello, Billy, hey Man, I
love you. Thanks Monday. All right, people love you? We men?
Did you set up Gmail and email and all that stuff?

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I really have to do that. You better do that
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help you out, so you better. You better do that.
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Speaker 3 (43:17):
Can I just say something really fast? Yes? I just
realized reed Man has a first name. Hi, Billy, I
had no idea.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Well, on Monday we will tell you why he goes
by the moniker weed Man on Monday.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
We'll save that story from Monday. But here we go
or Monday and Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
So which Lady Gaga song does Chauncey Billups hate?

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Which one poker face. That's Eric in Kansas. There you go,
what would be gaga?

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, what would be poetic justice if Chauncey Billips was
convicted on all charges? Wow? What if he was sentenced
to lethal injection? That's from a chip in Maine. Well,
these are actual jokes by actual Listen is why does
weed man ride around with his butt out the car window?
Why so people can see his good side? That's a

(44:08):
lucky tony right, very nice. Did you hear that weed
Man hippie attended a version of the no King protest
over last weekend?

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Wow? Really? Yeah? I guess you thought it was actually
no wor King protests?

Speaker 1 (44:24):
You thought there was that even you know George in Uvalde, Texas.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Thank you George. Why is weed man thinking about getting married?

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Why? Because he recently got engaged in criminal activity?

Speaker 3 (44:37):
There you go, it's real in Minnesota. How many times
have you been arrested? Weed Man? How many times? I'm good,
I'm good, I know, but but yeah, you've been arresting.
What job is weed man applying for? What job?

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Weed store and bassador? That's Eric in Kansas. Why is
weed man not familiar with.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Why?

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Well, he always thought of lot lizards as roadkill and
free food.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
That's Drew in Minnesota. Did you hear that weed Man?
Did you hear that weed Man?

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Hippies Chevy Malibu was in a glossy magazine?

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Wow?

Speaker 8 (45:17):
Really?

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Yes, it was.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Better homeless and gardens. That's Jeopardy. Ow, that's a legend. Jeopardy.
Al was at the first mallor meet and greet we
did in Kansas City. He works at the dreaded day Shift.

Speaker 6 (45:28):
Now.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
How is weed Man honored by the State of Florida. Wow?

Speaker 1 (45:33):
They presented him with a Ward of the State. A
ward Drew in Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Why is Hollowing James going to be or what is
he going to be on Halloween?

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Hollering James?

Speaker 1 (45:47):
What the incredible bulk? That's from Eke in Roseville, Minnesota.
What is Marcel doing for Halloween? What standing outside Blair's
house making scary noises? That's Eric in Kansas Yes, very nice.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Here's another similar joke. God, what is holloween James Halloween costume?
What sleeping Darth Vader? That's Eric as well. Very nice.
There it's big Man's name. Jokes of the week.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
It was reported Mike the Leper contested positive for drugs
during his recent physical year. About that, Wow, wow, yeah,
there was a large amount of poppy found in him.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
I don't know why. That's a Joe in Virginia. There,
you're last one.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Who is Jed who Fled's favorite nineties R and B
GROUPO Boys to Math. That's Kurt from our Big Man's
Lame Jokes of the Week.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Thank you, weed Man. That was funny, Genie Ghost of
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