November 3, 2025 • 48 mins
Big Ben talks about Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs coming up short against Josh Allen and the Bills, Commanders coach Dan Quinn getting ripped for Jayden Daniels getting injured late in a game that was already lost, Maller to the Third Degree, Insta-Advice Line, and more!
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So our lead this hour start with not the Sunday
night game that was a bit of a dud, no contests,
so instead we'll talk about the game. We're gonna start anyway,
with the game of the day in the NFL in
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New York. There's only one team that plays in New York.
It's not the Jets, it's not the Giants. That would
be the team in Buffalo, Sleepy Orchard Park, New York,
to be exact, and that was the venue for the
latest matchup in the quarterback rivalry of rivalries Josh Allen
and the Bills versus Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, and
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then trying to recreate the Tom Brady versus Peyton Manning
rivalry of years gone by and trying to sell that,
and they're selling it that this is the same in
Mahomes wins in the playoffs like Brady. But then you
look at Manning and that's Josh Allen and Manning a
terrible big game quarterback. Every man, woman and child knows that.
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And Josh Allen his number is not bad in big games,
but he always finds away his team to f it up.
So that was the setup. Yet, Jim Nance and Tony Romo,
they were there and you know, doing their thing and
all that. Right, that's right, jam Hello friends, Yes, so
if you were wat you know what happened. But possibly
not possibly not the raining MVP Josh Allen throwing a
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touchdown pass and ran for not one, but two scores,
and he actually outplayed Patrick Mahomes, out played in there,
and the Buffalo Bills get to win. Chiefs had the
ball trund for that hill Mary throw of eight there.
They get to win though. Twenty eight twenty one, Buffalo
over Kansas City in a rematch of big playoff games,
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including the AFC Championship game a year ago. James Cook
adding one hundred and fourteen yards rushing. The Buffalo defense
was all over Patrick Mahomes in this game. Sacked him
three times. They hit him fifteen more times as Mahomes
had trouble getting rid of the football. Bad job by him.
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Got to make adjustments if your offensive lines dinged up.
Mahomes did not make those adjustments, and so, for the
first time in his NFL career, Patrick Mahomes completed less
than half of his passes. It never happened, Oh my god,
but it did now. And so he completed less than
half his passes. He went fifteen of thirty four passing,
Mahomes less than fifty percent throwing the ball. The argument, well,
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some of those were late in the game, the desperation
trying to come back there, the hail Mary which didn't
even get to the end zone, and all that. So
we're gonna break this down now. The better story is
in the losing locker room. So here is the one
and only Patrick Mahomes pointing out that apparently the Chiefs
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they've not done well in close games.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Let's start with that.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So here's Mahomes on the fact that Chiefs are winless
this year in close games.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
What's that about?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Kind of been in all these tight, close games and
our history, but they're not going our way now, So
how can we deal with that adversity? How can we
be better and learn from it? I mean, you only
learn for so many losses. I mean you gotta learn
from it fast. And sm and uphill battle when we
get back. But I think our guys are.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Up cut out early what's going on in the editing.
I don't understand what goes on back there. I'm sorry,
it's just in that very end of it. But anyway, Yeah,
here's more. Here is Patrick Mahomes. Let's see how the
editors f this up. Here's Mahomes on the urgency and
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the fact that apparently there's no cupcakes on the schedule.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
According to Mahomes, takeles.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Like I said, we got to learn from it, but
it's kind of like you got to do it now,
like there's there's no there's no easy game coming up,
and there's no more chances that we can really take losses.
So I mean, you got to learn from it fast,
and we've got to be better as a team.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Offensive.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
We gotta be better, especially on some of those big
drives we had in the second half. And I think
we'll just continue to to to push away and learn
on this by week and then come back and be
ready to play our best football coming off of it.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Still gonna be learning while they're in can Kun, They're
gonna be learning how to put suntan lotion on and
drink the.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Proper my tie.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
All right, So let us discuss the question where does
this loss to the Bills leave Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.
He was pretty much by the book with those answers
as well. You know, we got to learn, and that's
what they always say, we win or lose, you have
to learn from everything. Everything is a teachable moment, all right.
So my thoughts on this, I've got brain Freeze, Legend
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of Zelda, and foam Finger, and we will combine all
of these things together, and we're gonna make the Gobba goool.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
We're gonna make the gobbagool.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
So a, this was a game for the Chiefs with
Mahomes here and friends, to show that they were fully backed.
The Chiefs were playing well. They had won a few
games in a row, and so it's like they got
their mojo backed. They're sitting sitting there thinking, Okay, well
here we go. We're gonna show everyone going to Buffalo
and win that game. And that didn't happen. Obviously, that
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did not happen, and Kansas City rolled backwards. That was
a misstep by the Chiefs in this game, and they
reverted into some bad habits. They did you can't hide
behind turn it on when it counts. Well, they'll just
turn it on when it counts. That doesn't generally work here.
And Buffalo's defense, who has not exactly been world beaters.
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By the way, if you've been watching the NFL this year,
you know the Bills defense has been shaky. They've been
on the ropes at times. But Mahomes could not hit
water for a lot of this game. And he fell
out of a boat the way that he was playing here,
And don't give me the well he doesn't have weapons.
His guys are back. They were back, they played, they
had all the big weapons. Rashie Rice, the speed racer,
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he was out there, Xavier Worthy, Hollywood Browns. I guess
current Hollywood when they're not making good movies, not old
Hollywood when they.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Made good movies.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
He's poor Hollywood brown But anyway, those guys were out there.
They just didn't make enough plays in this game. Travis
Kelce continues to look like he's a podcaster pretending to
play football.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
It's not very good.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
And it's like a fair tour sponsored by the AARP,
watching out there and play. And this was supposed to
be a measuring stick game. It was a measuring stick
game for the Chiefs, and at this point they didn't say, hey,
we're still the Kings of the NFL, even though they
lost to Philadelphia in the Super Bowl where the Kings
of the AFC. They didn't do that. It was Buffalo.
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Here we go, Buffalo. It was Buffalo that did the
old pirouett. They did the dance. They shook their tush
right there on the dance floor. They were getting done.
The Chiefs had a brief lead in the second quarter
and then crumbled from that point forward. It was a
domination situation. They played like there was a pop quiz.
There was a pop quiz, and they didn't study for
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the pop quiz. Bad job by them. They got brain freeze.
Oh Mike, I got brain friese. Now, bigger headache. That
Chief's defense, to me, that's the sort they was talking about.
Mahomes and Momes didn't play great in this game. Yet
I look at that defense in Kansas City and what
was that. At least I didn't see any plays where
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they literally gave up like they did against Jacksonville. Remember,
they just allowed the Jacks to score that touchdown. One
of the most gutless moments in NFL history by a
good team. I didn't see that, but this wasn't a
masculating performance for Kansas City. Josh Allen carved them up
like you're gonna carve your turkey up later this month.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Absolutely carved them up.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Averaged ten and a half yards per throw, all right,
ten and a half yards per attempt for Josh Allen,
which is ridonculous. James Cook was running through mostly arm
tackles in this game, and how good was he? Buffalo
as a team had ninety nine more yards of offense
ninety nine. They stopped at the ninety nine seven more
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first downs in this game and converted at an almost
sixty percent clip on third down. I'm told that's all
good stuff. I'm told that's all good stuff. That was
a domination situation. Everyone knows, so you don't normal You
don't normally see the Chiefs getting shoved around like that.
That's not typical of how that team has played over
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the last couple of years. But they did look soft
at times by the Bill. Give the Bills credit, But
my god, Kansas City, what are you doing. It's a
bad job by you, and so to me, that's the headline,
I just played a soft brand of football in this game,
and at five and four, Mahomes mentioned there's not a
lot of wiggle room here. The Chiefs need to get
at least six more wins. They got eight games to go,
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they got to come up with six wins, so they
got a couple more losses to play with, but they
got to get six more wins.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
That'll get them to eleven wins.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Very rarely do you get to eleven wins and not
make the plays So if you can get to eleven wins,
you'll make the playoffs. Whether that's the division or whether
that's just being a wild card, you'll.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Get in the pluff.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Now, on the Bill's side of things, as we continue
our in depth team coverage here starting the week off
on The Ben Mather Show, the question for the Bills
does this count as a signature win for Josh Allen's
Buffalo Bills beating Kansas City here in Week nine of
the NFL season, So we mentioned a big measuring stick
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game for Kansas City, well also for Buffalo. However, however,
I'm going to say no in terms of the big picture.
For the moment, Yeah, the Bills feel pretty good right,
Bill Mafia is all fired off. They're excited. That's great.
They want congratulations. However, Buffalo, what do we know. They
always beat Kansas City in the regular season. They always do.
This is old news. This is old news, is what
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it is. We've seen this act before. Think of this
like the Legend of Zelda, the Hero of Time. The
hero of Time known as Link in the Legend of
Zelda used to play that years ago, and this was
like clockwork for the Bills. Legend of Zelda the Hero
of Time, it was clockwork. This is what they do.
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In November they beat Kansas City. That's what the Buffalo
Bills do. And then in January the Chiefs gut the
Bills like the aliens gutting a cow.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
When they united.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You find those aliens that come down there allegedly I'm
sure it's something else and just tear up the cow. Yeah,
it's like that. But it's a Buffalo and it's the
same every year, same movie every year. This year be different.
Buffalo was a slight favorite. They were at home in
this game and they won. So you get a nice
little dopamine hit, right, little dopamine hit the year not bad.
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Enjoy the dopamine. Way to go, and the Bills mafia
will throw themselves on some tables that are lit on
fire and that'll be how that goes.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
So congratulations on that. However, you're not celebrating.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Because we know there's a lot of games to go,
a lot of games to go, and until Josh Allen
finally gets the monkey off his back, he and his
co workers there beat Mahomes when it matters in the postseason,
when it counts in the big playlayoff game down the line.
This is just background noise. It's just elevator noise, that's
all it is. And they're the kings of the regular
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season matchups. You get a nice little puffy sticker. Congratulations
on that. Way to go and five straight now for
the Bills, five straight over Kansas City when the weather's
still relatively good. When the weather's not good, they've played
four times and zero for four, including that ridiculous game
at Arrowhead Stadium a couple years back. But there you go.
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So the Bills in the regular season against the Chiefs,
the Bills are like a tesla. They're smooth, they don't
no gas, need it, right, they get plenty of gas,
play energy, right, and all that stuff. They're fast playoffs, playoffs.
The Buffalo Bills off in resort, not a tesla. They're
more like a rental Kia with lots of dents and
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lots of miles on it. And that's how that goes,
gonna collapse later. So itays a deja vu, deja vu situation.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Is what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And just I've a show to do every day, obviously,
so we worry about what we worry about that particular day.
But let me know, send me a text or something.
Let me know when the Bills win a game like
this against Kansas City in January, and when the pressure
cookers cranked up to ten, we can revisit this.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Now, last word, is it true?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
A quarterback called out the fans, called out the fens.
We go to Jersey where the forty nine ers, with
Christian McCaffrey accounting for over one hundred and seventy all
purpose yards and a pair of touchdowns, the Niners beat
up the Giants, a domination situation, which led to some
interesting commentary from Jackson Dart. Now Jackson Dart a one
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man band for the Giants. Is he had a good
stat sheet game and all that stuff. With the Giants
lose and Dart had a couple of touchdown passes and
a touchdown run. So that's a good you. I had
him on your fantasy football team and all that.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Fine.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
He was blown away though, post game by the amount
of fans wearing red. A lot of forty nine er
fans there. I know our guy or Nesto, he's a
big part of that. The forty nine er fan base.
They travel, They travel very well. The Niners, they're living
off what they were forty years ago when they had
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a dynasty in the nineteen eighties. But anyway, the stadium
was packed with forty nine er colors, much like when
the Niners played the Rams. Anyway, here is Jackson Dart
on what it was like in that environment in Jersey.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Tegolz, that was interesting.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I've never played out a home game where I felt
like it was kind of lopsided in that department.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
But you know, they have a good fan base and
the travel.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Blow Okay, So Jackson Dart, I have never played a
home game essentially with so many visiting fans, is what
he was saying there. So question does that count. Did
Jackson Dart take a subtle shit at the Giant fans.
So I'm gonna go one hundred percent. That is a
subtle shot because if you do the math on this,
I know this is there'd be no arithmetic on this.
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There's really no if sands or a bunch of beout it.
So how did the forty nine er fan procure the
ticket to the game at the stadium there in the
swamp lands of Jersey because all those tickets sold, Right,
there's only one logical path on how that large volume
of forty nine.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Er fans got in there.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Those tickets do not end up in the devices of
the forty nine or fan base by accident. They don't, right,
Giant season ticket holders sold them. They sold them for profit.
That's on the fans, and Jackson Dart by pointing that out,
is indirectly pointing out that the fans cashed in and
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sold the.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Tickets, and can you blame them?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
That's the other part is can you really blame it
if you're dumb enough to buy Giant season tickets?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
The team's been a punchline for a decade now. They've
been garbaged that the Giants used to be good when
I was a kid. They suck and you're sitting there,
you're paying premium PSL and all.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
The other crap you got to pay.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
To have tickets, and you go out there and watch
them pretty much on a weekly basis.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Drop a deuce right at the midfield logo.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
You might as well make a couple of bucks back
if somebody's dumb enough to pay you big money and travel,
whether it's from northern California and it's Niner fans everywhere
again because of Montana back in the eighties', just like
second generation forty nine or third generation forty nine er
fans now, so you can't point the foam finger. You
can't point the foam finger at the fans when the
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team's bad. And they're bad, and that loss wasn't about
crowd noise the Giants they were terrible, and it wasn't
even about the forty nine ers being being supported by
their fans or anything. It was just the Niners played
a dominant game. The Giants went through the motions and
all that. Even back up mac Jones. Mac Jones, who
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was starting to fall off the leg, she came back
there and he was okay. And by the way, if
the Giants want to get Jackson Dart. I assume they
want to get home field advantage and all that stuff
and maybe start putting a more competitive product on the
field now since Cam Skataboo he went out with the injury.
The Giants played terribly last week and now a no
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show performance here this week. So don't blame the resale market.
Do not blame the resale market here. The fans did
not miss tackles. I'm pretty sure that they did not
blow coverages in the secondary there. So to put a
ball on this, Jackson Dart again his comments, while they
seemed rather but nine you have to go down the
rabbit hole and then you see, well, they're not so innocent.
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They're not so innocent. He said, Hey, the fans. What
he's saying is I didn't like the environment. He indicated
that I've never done this before. It didn't seem to
enjoy it. And that was possible because the fans sold
the tickets. They sold out the tickets and another embarrassing
home loss. And so you look ahead and the Giant
fans will do the same thing. It's hard to argue.
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It's hard to argue the fans doing that.
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on the island life, the island game, the Sunday Night game.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
That's the most important game on the weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
NBC's got the biggest game every weekend Sunday Night by
itself Primetime. However, we did not begin we did not
begin this show with that game. It was such a
horrific mismatch we decided to move it to the second
hour of the show, and so Sunday Night Football you
had Collinsworth and Tariko there, the Seahawks traveling Armada making
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its way to the Greater Washington, DC area, landover Maryland
where Rick and Maryland says morning time right there. So
I don't know if you saw it or not. Maybe
you didn't watch it. I'm telling you you didn't miss
anything we watched, so you would not have to. It
was a dead of a game, but not a dot
of a game for Sam Darnold, who completed the first
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seventeen passes he attempted. I'm told that's good. Had not one,
not two, not three, but four touchdown passes. All of
that in the first half. Seattle vaporized Washington thirty eight
to fourteen the final in a game that was not
even that close. The game was over at halftime. They
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were doing a bunch of filler stuff in the second half.
But the better story is on the losing side. There'
been a lot of losing there, a lot of losing
for the Washington Commanders this year. It was an absenteeism
performance by the team that represents Washington DC. You know
what they acted like. They acted like politicians is what
they acted like. You know how politicians take a bunch
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of time off. That's the Commanders. They took a bunch
of time off. My god, and now, the game itself
was upstaged by an injury, and we'll address that right now.
This is the snuffleufigus in the room, the injury, and
so Washington lost quarterback Jaden Daniels to snap crackle pop
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as he was injured. Daniels the commander's phenom. You all
told me how great this guy is. He was in
the final four last year with Washington, Jaden Daniels, second
year quarterback. There he left midway through the fourth quarter.
His non throwing arm bent back like it was at
a Halloween horror house, a house of horrors, hunted house there.
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Oh my god, that is disgusting. And there's I'm looking
a photo right here.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Not good.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
So Jaden Daniels is arm twisted back. I was tackled
near the Seattle goal line. And that is a good
jumping off point because this is the story and it's
going to be the hot debate topic in sports media today,
Jaden Daniels being injured. He suffered what we're being told
is a dislocated elbow. He is scheduled to have an
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MRI later to day and that will confirm the injury
and determine how long he is going to be out
of action. The good news is it's not his throwing arm.
The bad news is it is one of his arms.
Generally speaking, you need to have both. You need to
take the snap and when you're going back you gotta
you have your off arm to kind of push away
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defenders and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
So it's a bit of a problem.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Dan Quinn is getting absolutely just cooked for having his
player in the game in garbage time there late. Here
is dan Quinn, the head coach, probably not for long
the way this season's going there in Washington, but here's.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Dan Quinn commenting on why he was in there.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
He was you know who made that decision. Let's find
out here we go, here's the coach.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, not of his face.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
I mean obviously like the hindsight, you don't want to
think that way where you know an injury could take place,
you know, as you were more conservative that spot to
you know, run and hand off and not have reachs
to go. But just the end result mccaut's I'm bump.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
All right, So let us discuss the question. You heard
dan Quinn, coach of Washington. He's getting charbroiled like a
Western bacon cheeseberg. He's get absolutely scharbroiled for the Jaden
Daniels injury in garbage time? Is this criticism warranted? Is
the criticism Warrington? So on this one, I've got popsicle sticks,
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roller coaster, and finger foods, and we will combine all
of these things.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Together and we are going to make a.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Delicious Detroit style pizza which you can make at home. Yeah,
Detroit Detroit stear not bad. I didn't even know that
there was until like five years ago. I didn't even
know what Detroit style pizza was. I know Chicago style,
but Detroit style's kind of a rip off of Chicago Sty's.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
It's not quite as thick and.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
All right, So number on people are losing their minds,
losing their mind. Why was he still in the game,
Jada and Daniels, Why risk it you? Of course, the
argument is, no risk it, no biscuit. So let me
hit the pause button. Hit the pause button on the
remote control here. Now I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna
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say the quiet part out loud. I don't think this
is the worst coaching decision of all time.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I doubt. Oh my god, you're just trying to get attention.
That's why you're on.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Overnights that just don't even post it, no response. I
understand all the arguments against it. Let me make mallards
elevator pitch in support of why dan Quinn had Jade
and Daniels in the game late. It was mid fourth
quarter when the injury happened. Right, you cannot coach scared
number one, Right, you cannot coach scared all right. The
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guy is trying to get a young quarterback some positive reps.
He if you were not watching the game here, if
you're actually honest, Jaden Daniels was not exactly lighting the
world on fire against the Seattle Seahawks. And oh, by
the way, this season when he has played, has not
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looked anything like the guy last year for the Washington Commanders. Right,
so he needed the work. Oh my god, you shouldn't
say that he needed the work. I said that he
needed the work, right, And so dan Quinn was he
chasing points at that at that moment of the game.
He was trying to get some kind of confidence going
for the Commanders, right something, And for Jayden Daniels has.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Been the word for him, My word is nah.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
He's been a meh quarterback this year for Washington and
most of the season, and you want to see how
he's going to do and get some kind of positive
juice going for the Commanders, and you don't pull him
because it's a it's a blowout, you know, and you
need a little bit of scar tissue in the NFL,
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you need that. Unfortunately, the irony is, of course, it
looks like he's going to get actual literal scar tissue
from some kind of medical procedure his shoulder messed up there.
The other issue is that Jaden Daniels, and this was
the argument against him coming out of LSU, is that
he is not designed for professional football, meaning he's built
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like a flagpole.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
He just is.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
He's a stick he's stick like. He's like a stick figure,
skin and bones. And the for him as well, he'll
fill out his body and he'll get stronger as he
gets older and maybe he'll be stronger, maybe it'll be fatter.
Everyone gets bigger as they get older, right, whether you
get fat or whatever. And so so you go through
it and the big question is not so much the
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dan Quinn decision. Again to me, it's the can Jaden
Daniels last in the NFL? Is he built for fling
like a summer flame and not the long term relationship type.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
You know what I'm saying, like more for fun, not
the long term. That's the question question.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And you look at the guy and he's just built
like a couple of popsicle sticks put together there and
optimism and that's not going to last. It's just not
so Again those in the back of the room, if
you're not paying attention because you're doing something there at
the factory or whatever you're doing driving your truck. That's
the argument is this goes with the job. You have
to make these decisions as a coach. And you know,
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somebody's like dan Quinn, I don't think it was a
reckless call, right, And it sounds listening between the words
that Jayden Daniels went off the game plan and put
himself in harm's way there.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
But dan Quinn made a football call, is what he did.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
And he got absolutely burned, as it turns out, because
the guy got hurt. And so the magic carpet ride
for the Washington Commanders last year has turned into a
kamikaze mission this year for the Commanders, as they are
just terrible and like one of the great Fluke runs,
what they did last year getting to the final four
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of the NFL, the NFC Championship game in Philly, And
now you look at him now and they're closer to
getting a top ten pick in the draft the way
they've played this year than they are returning to the
playoffs at this point now, Page two.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
So on the other side.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
As we break down the Sunday Night game, a lot
of chatter about Sam Donald, who sliced up the Commander's
secondary on Sunday Night Football a domination situation. The game
was over at halftime. They were actually singing turnout the
last the parties over literally at halftime, thirty one to seven.
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What's the score at halftime? Donald had all four of
his touchdown passes in the first.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Half of the game. Who was sixteen for sixteen.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
And then got another completion to start the second half.
Seattle improved to six and two. Now, Chris Collinsworth, he
had the Seattle Seahawks onesie on on the broadcast. There
went in down, slobberd chops all over the quarterback. So
Collinsworth mentioned Sam Darnald and saying that Donald should be
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in the ENVP conversation, that Sam Donald should be an MVP,
Holy fire him an Ed and all you Jets fans?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
What are you talking about? All right?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
So the question is it time for us to reevaluate
our long standing position on Sam Donald? Should we reevaluate
the Seattle quarterback Sam Donald and his status as a
Most Valuable Player candidate in the NFL? So on this one,
I'm giving it not side eye. I'm giving it stink eye.
(31:40):
There's a difference. I'm giving it stink guy here. So
that's all together. Now, pump the brakes now, let's pump
the brakes on that, shall we I'm not there.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I'm not there. I'm not there. I'm not there. I'm
not there.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Chris Collinsworth, I'm convinced that he's already built a statue, a.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Shrine to Sam Darnald. Nobody ballwashes quarterbacks better than Chris Collinsworth.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Can we all agree on that? For a guy that
didn't play quarterback, he was a wide receiver? My god,
maybe we all have someone love us as much as
Sam Donald loves every quarterback and he doesn't know what
to do.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
He can't criticize anyone. It's wild.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
So I'm sure there's a statue somewhere in the greater
Cincinnati area where Collsworth lives. Of him one of the
great ballwashers of our time when it comes to quarterbacks.
And so Collsworth was practically feigning himself in the booth
while talking about Sam Donald, and I would say, I'd
like to quote Aaron Rodgers from years ago.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Relax r E la X Relax.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yes Donald, listen, he was out there like he was
at Lowry's Steakhouse, carving some prime rib in this game,
no question about it.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
He carved up the Washington.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Defense and it looked like the Commander's defense had done
their pregame prep, their warm up at Buffalo Wild Wings.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
They had some beer and wings and went.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Out, let's play some football boys. We'll get some beer,
we'll get some wings. It was thirty one seven again
at halftime. My god, the game was over right before
Carrie Underwood finished singing. The game had already ended, but
for some reason they kept putting it on television. Listen,
Donald did play like a man possessed in this game.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
He did. Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
However, I have a body of work to base my
opinion on. All Right, We've seen this before, Sam Donald.
He did this with the Vikings last year. How my
friends in Minnesota, the nice Minnesota, nice people, they can
tell you all about Sam Donna. Right, Sam Don goes
out there and he was absolutely slicing everybody up last year,
like Patrick Mahomes during the regular season and then in
(33:50):
the late spot regular season last week against the Lions
and then the playoff game against the Rams in Arizona
neutral site because the fires in La.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Well, he went out there and played like.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Josh Rosen taking classes at a school in Pennsylvania business class.
It is the Sam Donald roller coaster experience. Sam Donald
is a roller coaster quarterback. It's all gas. There's a
few loop dy loops, round and round and round and round,
loopy loops and then face plant, face plant. That's the
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Sam Donald roller coaster. The seat belts come on hinge
and you go flying off the roller coaster. Well, that's
a bummer. That is an absolute bummer. Cannot depend on them,
cannot do it, cannot depend on them.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Donald is not and.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Will never be in the bubble of trust. Will not
be in the bubble of trust. And this is what
he does. He fools you, Sam Donald fools you. He
does He plays a demonic level of football in a
game like this, threads the needle look like he was
playing against air, just dominating with Jackson Smith and Jigba,
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and then the trap door opens up. The trap door
opens up, and then it's falling into Dante's inferno and
Picks seeing ghosts tossing checkdowns on third and fifteen where
you complete the pass for eight yards but you're still
seven yards short of the line to gain, and the
stat sheets shiny and the low information fan gets all horny.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Oh this is great.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
So as far as the MVP on my scorecard, which
is the only scorecard that matters because it's the Ben
Malor Show, Sam Donald isn't even honorable mention, is not
even honorable mention in the MVP race.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
That is a trip to fantasy Land, is what that is.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Call me when he does it against a big time
opponent late in the season of the playoffs, and then
we can revisit this until that happens. That is my position. Now,
final point, high drama in Sin sen Nady. That's where
we go.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Now we're running back.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Chase Bran ripped the Bengals defense. He said, what the
f Now we're not allow to say what he actually
said because I'll get in trouble. Mark says he'll punch
me if I say that. He said, what the f
finish the effing game. That's the running back Chase Brown.
Now Jamar Chase, Chase and Chase all he needs Chase Bank.
(36:22):
So Jamar Chase was heard as he was walking off
the field in the bowels of the stadium. And there's
a lot of thick bowels there in Cincinnati. So Jamar
Chase was heard yelling one effing stop again. We can't
say the actual word. We're not allowed to say the
actual word. So both those guys, Chase and Chase ripping him. Now,
Jamar Chase was pissed off heading the locker room. The
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game goes to Chicago forty seven two. It was the
play of the day. We played it last hour, dramatic elite,
a few seconds to go on the clock. Caleb Williams
touchdown passed to win the game. So the question, Jamar
Chase and his partner in crime, running back Chase Brown,
both taking shots at the Cincinnati defense.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
How does that strike you? All right?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
So I'll go first. You can chime in if you want.
This was obviously that big fail.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
It was an.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Epic fail by the Cincinnati defense. Now, typically, having done
this job and sitting I get to come in here
and sit in the cap bird seat overnight quite a bit.
Typically this stuff is not for public consumption. This is
the kind of stuff that gets whispered behind closed doors
and it's like, don't put my name on it, but
here's my opinion. So you genuinely don't get this in
(37:38):
the public theater. The Bengals defense was so bad.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
How bad are they?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
They were so bad they should be brought up on
grand larceny charges. Okay for that. They were total frauds,
total frauds, and they got paid for that performance. Do
you know that the Chicago Bears offense, I think most
even the Bears fans, it's a middling offense. There's talent there,
but it's a middling The Cincinnati Bengals defense gave off
five hundred and seventy six yards to the Bears. The
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Bears almost put up six hundred yards of offense on
the road.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
On the road, mind you, Now you know what that's like.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
When you see that kind of offics, you think you
think Kurt Warner greatest show on turf Back in the
dayf you all don't remember the Rams, the Saint Louis
Rams with Tory Holt and all those Marshall Falk and
all those games. Those are the teams that would put
up that kind of yards. The Bears, what are we doing?
Camb Williams looked like Josh Allen in a skills competition
(38:39):
for much of that game. There was no resistance by Cincinnati.
There was no pushback, nothing. Now, if you watched Benny
versus the Penning on YouTube last week, we did take
the Chicago Bears that we got that right. So whatever,
I didn't think it was going to be anything like that.
I did not imagine that this game would be as
high scoring and that it would be.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
It was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Ninety something points, just just absolute ridict in this game.
And so this is not some isolated thing. Though that's
the other issue. This is not some isolated thing. This
defense has been the worst in the NFL this season.
The Bengals were number thirty two, they would be thirty third,
but there's only thirty two teams, so the thirty second
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team worst defense in the NFL, and so they were
bad coming into this game, and somehow they found a
lower level like we suck, How can we suck more? Okay,
let's give up five hundred and seventy six yards and
then will be a super sonic suck. And there they were,
and Zach Taylor has no answers the coach, and he's
(39:39):
not in danger of being fired because that would mean
the Bengals would have to pay him to not coach,
and that's a tight wad franchise. So I'd be shocked
if they fired Zach Taylor. If you look at Zach Taylor,
he's got no answers. No, it's finger food, is what
it is in Cincinnati, and he's the buffet. Everyone's pointing
the finger at pointing the finger here there tackling t
(40:00):
variable right, soft serve, soft serve defense guys were bouncing
off the Bears players like they were playing bumper cars.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
It was embarrassing. And you could have put a velvet
rope and.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
A couple of scarecrows out there and gotten the same
result if you're the Cincinnati Bengals on defense. There, Caleb
Williams carved them up, and Joe Flacco carved up the Bears.
He had old man Flacco Elite Joe Flacco jump ball
Joe had his first four hundred and seventy plus yard
passing game, as he put four hundred and seventy yards
passing him. Never did that with the Ravens or all
(40:33):
the other teams. He's played for four touchdowns and it
still wasn't enough. And to me, that's the story here.
You waste that kind of offensive output where Tie Higgins
gout in the end zone. I believe a couple of
times at both he and Jamar Chase went over one
hundred yards and your defense you waste that because your
defense has the backbone of a beach towel. Okay, Zach
(40:57):
Taylor's Bengals are stuck in the mud. They are stuck
in the mud, and the frustration is boiling over right.
The chases are chasing accountability. The problem is nobody on defense,
nobody on defense is catching that bug of accountability. There
is no accountability. And they are doing a lot of
(41:18):
good finger pointing, which is good for talk radio. So
I'm sure that story. We're gonna circle that one and
I'm gonna highlight it. And I have a feeling as
we go through the week, there'll be the follow up
to the follow up. There could be an apology by
one of the Bengal players who called out the defense.
They'll say it's a heat of the moment. Someone lower
level could lose their job, the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
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Speaker 3 (41:44):
Here we go, how about that? The third degree? This
is one gets crack.
Speaker 7 (41:54):
Then, after the Blue Jays World Series loss, Max Scherzer
said he is not going to retire. He can't imagine
that being his last pitch he's ever thrown. Yeah, he
didn't have a good regular season. Do you think there's
gonna be a lot of desire from Excherz?
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah, he'll sign with somebody like who thinks they can
squeeze out half a season. He'll take half the year
off like he did this year in Toronto and suck
and then somebody said, well he's got that playoff pedigree.
How'd that work out? In Game seven next.
Speaker 7 (42:18):
Cooper Flagg addressed his tough start in this league. He
said it's a tough league, and he said he doesn't
think it's anything.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
That anybody should be worried about.
Speaker 7 (42:27):
Ben, Do you think they should be worried about it
or is this more of like a bad situation type of.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Well, when you're the number one pick in the draft,
you're supposed to come out guns of blazing. He has
not come out guns of blazing here. So it's too
soon to completely say this guy is falling for Cooper
Flagg obviously him. He's only played a few games in
the NBA the season. No one's really paying attention to
the NBA that much, but the numbers are not good
and he just doesn't look like he's got a higher level,
(42:51):
which is problematic. I have not seen it, so I
haven't watched too many Maverick games. When I have, I've
not been over the impressed.
Speaker 7 (42:56):
Next Texas Longhorns have won four games in a row.
Archie Manning had his breakout game this past weekend. One
ESPN analyst even said he's played his way back into
the Heisman conversation.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
I was gonna ask if you think that's true, but uh,
I think I know the answer.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
No.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Listen, there's a lot of people that want it.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
They don't want to die on that Manning's a Heisman
can he's not a candidating Please? Cool?
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Come on? How did we do.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Come past all right, that's bad. Let the take go,
Come on, let the take go.
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Speaker 3 (43:50):
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Speaker 3 (43:55):
The safety net.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Comes off, and who needs our advice in the world
of sports this well, I think it's rather obvious the
dramatic ending of.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
The World Series. We need to help out. You know,
we're not evil Americans. We need to help out.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Our brothers and sisters in Canada who are fans of
the national team, the Toronto Blue Jays. There as the
Blue Jays were a couple outs away and then they
checked into the Heartbreak Hotel. So advice to Blue Jay
fans on how to deal with blowing a lead in
the ninth inning. And they had multiple multi run leads
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in the World Series. So advice to Blue Jay fans
on how to deal with blowing the lead and losing
the World Series. You're live on the air when you
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Advice to Blue Jay fans. Line one, Line one is
not paying attention. We'll go to line too, Hello, line too.
You're on the airline too.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
You need invest in louder trash cans and better buzzers.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah, George Springer. Clearly he had something was working, but
they stopped working. They malfunctioned there at the end. Hello,
I call it. You're on their advice to Blue Jay
fans on how to deal with blowing the lead and
losing the World series.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Good morning time, look out series.
Speaker 6 (45:13):
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Speaker 2 (45:13):
To maintain one strength, you must freeze a popsicles.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
That's a pretty bird though, all right.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Thank you, Frany.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
The monologue we did about Jade and Daniels who was
hurt in the Sunday night game and looks like he'll
be out for a while.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Line number four, Hello, line four.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
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Speaker 1 (45:37):
We're giving advice to Blue Jay fans on how to
deal with blowing the lead and losing the World Series
in Game seven.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Hello, you're on the air. Okay, thank you for that
line too. Hello.
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to hear, Blind Scott.
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You must chew your food then you won't choke.
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Okay, that's solid advice, Thank you, Rick and Maryland. Line three,
you're on the Airline three. We're giving advice to the
Toronto Blue Jay fans on how to deal with blowing
the lead and losing the World Series. Hello, you're on
the airline three. Hey, hols Okay, thank you, that's very nice.
I'm sure they love that.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
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Speaker 2 (46:49):
With Otani and Yarmoto on that Dodger team, Woody Allen
or Woody Johnson could match.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
All right, well, thank you, what do you well? That's
true Woody Allen reference though.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Line one. You're on the airline one.
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We're giving advice to Toronto fans on how to deal
with their heartbreak Hotel Stay. They thought they'd won the
World Series and they lost it. Hello, you're on the
airline one.
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Boy, the World Series was on.
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Ah, I'm just kidding. Psych Line number two Hello, Line two.
Line two is not there. We'll go to line three.
Line three. Advice to Blue Jay fans.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Line three, oh Man, weaken Saxis by all declaring that
the best team.
Speaker 7 (47:28):
Did not win.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Okay, all right, stop with your nonsense. Get back to
your worship of Taylor Swift. Line number four, Hello, line four.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
They should have picked up Steve in Manhattan to run
the bases.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
That's right, Steve's a great that's a great point, supermarket Steve.
I will do one more, only one more. If it's good,
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For the Blue Jay fans. Line three, Line three. You're
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So our lead this hour start with not the Sunday
night game that was a bit of a dud, no contests,
so instead we'll talk about the game. We're gonna start anyway,
with the game of the day in the NFL in
(01:59):
New York. There's only one team that plays in New York.
It's not the Jets, it's not the Giants. That would
be the team in Buffalo, Sleepy Orchard Park, New York,
to be exact, and that was the venue for the
latest matchup in the quarterback rivalry of rivalries Josh Allen
and the Bills versus Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, and
(02:21):
then trying to recreate the Tom Brady versus Peyton Manning
rivalry of years gone by and trying to sell that,
and they're selling it that this is the same in
Mahomes wins in the playoffs like Brady. But then you
look at Manning and that's Josh Allen and Manning a
terrible big game quarterback. Every man, woman and child knows that.
(02:43):
And Josh Allen his number is not bad in big games,
but he always finds away his team to f it up.
So that was the setup. Yet, Jim Nance and Tony Romo,
they were there and you know, doing their thing and
all that. Right, that's right, jam Hello friends, Yes, so
if you were wat you know what happened. But possibly
not possibly not the raining MVP Josh Allen throwing a
(03:07):
touchdown pass and ran for not one, but two scores,
and he actually outplayed Patrick Mahomes, out played in there,
and the Buffalo Bills get to win. Chiefs had the
ball trund for that hill Mary throw of eight there.
They get to win though. Twenty eight twenty one, Buffalo
over Kansas City in a rematch of big playoff games,
(03:30):
including the AFC Championship game a year ago. James Cook
adding one hundred and fourteen yards rushing. The Buffalo defense
was all over Patrick Mahomes in this game. Sacked him
three times. They hit him fifteen more times as Mahomes
had trouble getting rid of the football. Bad job by him.
(03:50):
Got to make adjustments if your offensive lines dinged up.
Mahomes did not make those adjustments, and so, for the
first time in his NFL career, Patrick Mahomes completed less
than half of his passes. It never happened, Oh my god,
but it did now. And so he completed less than
half his passes. He went fifteen of thirty four passing,
Mahomes less than fifty percent throwing the ball. The argument, well,
(04:14):
some of those were late in the game, the desperation
trying to come back there, the hail Mary which didn't
even get to the end zone, and all that. So
we're gonna break this down now. The better story is
in the losing locker room. So here is the one
and only Patrick Mahomes pointing out that apparently the Chiefs
(04:34):
they've not done well in close games.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Let's start with that.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So here's Mahomes on the fact that Chiefs are winless
this year in close games.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
What's that about?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Kind of been in all these tight, close games and
our history, but they're not going our way now, So
how can we deal with that adversity? How can we
be better and learn from it? I mean, you only
learn for so many losses. I mean you gotta learn
from it fast. And sm and uphill battle when we
get back. But I think our guys are.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Up cut out early what's going on in the editing.
I don't understand what goes on back there. I'm sorry,
it's just in that very end of it. But anyway, Yeah,
here's more. Here is Patrick Mahomes. Let's see how the
editors f this up. Here's Mahomes on the urgency and
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the fact that apparently there's no cupcakes on the schedule.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
According to Mahomes, takeles.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Like I said, we got to learn from it, but
it's kind of like you got to do it now,
like there's there's no there's no easy game coming up,
and there's no more chances that we can really take losses.
So I mean, you got to learn from it fast,
and we've got to be better as a team.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Offensive.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
We gotta be better, especially on some of those big
drives we had in the second half. And I think
we'll just continue to to to push away and learn
on this by week and then come back and be
ready to play our best football coming off of it.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Still gonna be learning while they're in can Kun, They're
gonna be learning how to put suntan lotion on and
drink the.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Proper my tie.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
All right, So let us discuss the question where does
this loss to the Bills leave Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.
He was pretty much by the book with those answers
as well. You know, we got to learn, and that's
what they always say, we win or lose, you have
to learn from everything. Everything is a teachable moment, all right.
So my thoughts on this, I've got brain Freeze, Legend
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of Zelda, and foam Finger, and we will combine all
of these things together, and we're gonna make the Gobba goool.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
We're gonna make the gobbagool.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
So a, this was a game for the Chiefs with
Mahomes here and friends, to show that they were fully backed.
The Chiefs were playing well. They had won a few
games in a row, and so it's like they got
their mojo backed. They're sitting sitting there thinking, Okay, well
here we go. We're gonna show everyone going to Buffalo
and win that game. And that didn't happen. Obviously, that
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did not happen, and Kansas City rolled backwards. That was
a misstep by the Chiefs in this game, and they
reverted into some bad habits. They did you can't hide
behind turn it on when it counts. Well, they'll just
turn it on when it counts. That doesn't generally work here.
And Buffalo's defense, who has not exactly been world beaters.
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By the way, if you've been watching the NFL this year,
you know the Bills defense has been shaky. They've been
on the ropes at times. But Mahomes could not hit
water for a lot of this game. And he fell
out of a boat the way that he was playing here,
And don't give me the well he doesn't have weapons.
His guys are back. They were back, they played, they
had all the big weapons. Rashie Rice, the speed racer,
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he was out there, Xavier Worthy, Hollywood Browns. I guess
current Hollywood when they're not making good movies, not old
Hollywood when they.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Made good movies.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
He's poor Hollywood brown But anyway, those guys were out there.
They just didn't make enough plays in this game. Travis
Kelce continues to look like he's a podcaster pretending to
play football.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
It's not very good.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
And it's like a fair tour sponsored by the AARP,
watching out there and play. And this was supposed to
be a measuring stick game. It was a measuring stick
game for the Chiefs, and at this point they didn't say, hey,
we're still the Kings of the NFL, even though they
lost to Philadelphia in the Super Bowl where the Kings
of the AFC. They didn't do that. It was Buffalo.
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Here we go, Buffalo. It was Buffalo that did the
old pirouett. They did the dance. They shook their tush
right there on the dance floor. They were getting done.
The Chiefs had a brief lead in the second quarter
and then crumbled from that point forward. It was a
domination situation. They played like there was a pop quiz.
There was a pop quiz, and they didn't study for
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the pop quiz. Bad job by them. They got brain freeze.
Oh Mike, I got brain friese. Now, bigger headache. That
Chief's defense, to me, that's the sort they was talking about.
Mahomes and Momes didn't play great in this game. Yet
I look at that defense in Kansas City and what
was that. At least I didn't see any plays where
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they literally gave up like they did against Jacksonville. Remember,
they just allowed the Jacks to score that touchdown. One
of the most gutless moments in NFL history by a
good team. I didn't see that, but this wasn't a
masculating performance for Kansas City. Josh Allen carved them up
like you're gonna carve your turkey up later this month.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Absolutely carved them up.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Averaged ten and a half yards per throw, all right,
ten and a half yards per attempt for Josh Allen,
which is ridonculous. James Cook was running through mostly arm
tackles in this game, and how good was he? Buffalo
as a team had ninety nine more yards of offense
ninety nine. They stopped at the ninety nine seven more
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first downs in this game and converted at an almost
sixty percent clip on third down. I'm told that's all
good stuff. I'm told that's all good stuff. That was
a domination situation. Everyone knows, so you don't normal You
don't normally see the Chiefs getting shoved around like that.
That's not typical of how that team has played over
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the last couple of years. But they did look soft
at times by the Bill. Give the Bills credit, But
my god, Kansas City, what are you doing. It's a
bad job by you, and so to me, that's the headline,
I just played a soft brand of football in this game,
and at five and four, Mahomes mentioned there's not a
lot of wiggle room here. The Chiefs need to get
at least six more wins. They got eight games to go,
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they got to come up with six wins, so they
got a couple more losses to play with, but they
got to get six more wins.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
That'll get them to eleven wins.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Very rarely do you get to eleven wins and not
make the plays So if you can get to eleven wins,
you'll make the playoffs. Whether that's the division or whether
that's just being a wild card, you'll.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Get in the pluff.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Now, on the Bill's side of things, as we continue
our in depth team coverage here starting the week off
on The Ben Mather Show, the question for the Bills
does this count as a signature win for Josh Allen's
Buffalo Bills beating Kansas City here in Week nine of
the NFL season, So we mentioned a big measuring stick
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game for Kansas City, well also for Buffalo. However, however,
I'm going to say no in terms of the big picture.
For the moment, Yeah, the Bills feel pretty good right,
Bill Mafia is all fired off. They're excited. That's great.
They want congratulations. However, Buffalo, what do we know. They
always beat Kansas City in the regular season. They always do.
This is old news. This is old news, is what
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it is. We've seen this act before. Think of this
like the Legend of Zelda, the Hero of Time. The
hero of Time known as Link in the Legend of
Zelda used to play that years ago, and this was
like clockwork for the Bills. Legend of Zelda the Hero
of Time, it was clockwork. This is what they do.
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In November they beat Kansas City. That's what the Buffalo
Bills do. And then in January the Chiefs gut the
Bills like the aliens gutting a cow.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
When they united.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You find those aliens that come down there allegedly I'm
sure it's something else and just tear up the cow. Yeah,
it's like that. But it's a Buffalo and it's the
same every year, same movie every year. This year be different.
Buffalo was a slight favorite. They were at home in
this game and they won. So you get a nice
little dopamine hit, right, little dopamine hit the year not bad.
(12:30):
Enjoy the dopamine. Way to go, and the Bills mafia
will throw themselves on some tables that are lit on
fire and that'll be how that goes.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
So congratulations on that. However, you're not celebrating.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Because we know there's a lot of games to go,
a lot of games to go, and until Josh Allen
finally gets the monkey off his back, he and his
co workers there beat Mahomes when it matters in the postseason,
when it counts in the big playlayoff game down the line.
This is just background noise. It's just elevator noise, that's
all it is. And they're the kings of the regular
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season matchups. You get a nice little puffy sticker. Congratulations
on that. Way to go and five straight now for
the Bills, five straight over Kansas City when the weather's
still relatively good. When the weather's not good, they've played
four times and zero for four, including that ridiculous game
at Arrowhead Stadium a couple years back. But there you go.
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So the Bills in the regular season against the Chiefs,
the Bills are like a tesla. They're smooth, they don't
no gas, need it, right, they get plenty of gas,
play energy, right, and all that stuff. They're fast playoffs, playoffs.
The Buffalo Bills off in resort, not a tesla. They're
more like a rental Kia with lots of dents and
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lots of miles on it. And that's how that goes,
gonna collapse later. So itays a deja vu, deja vu situation.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Is what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And just I've a show to do every day, obviously,
so we worry about what we worry about that particular day.
But let me know, send me a text or something.
Let me know when the Bills win a game like
this against Kansas City in January, and when the pressure
cookers cranked up to ten, we can revisit this.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Now, last word, is it true?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
A quarterback called out the fans, called out the fens.
We go to Jersey where the forty nine ers, with
Christian McCaffrey accounting for over one hundred and seventy all
purpose yards and a pair of touchdowns, the Niners beat
up the Giants, a domination situation, which led to some
interesting commentary from Jackson Dart. Now Jackson Dart a one
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man band for the Giants. Is he had a good
stat sheet game and all that stuff. With the Giants
lose and Dart had a couple of touchdown passes and
a touchdown run. So that's a good you. I had
him on your fantasy football team and all that.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Fine.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
He was blown away though, post game by the amount
of fans wearing red. A lot of forty nine er
fans there. I know our guy or Nesto, he's a
big part of that. The forty nine er fan base.
They travel, They travel very well. The Niners, they're living
off what they were forty years ago when they had
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a dynasty in the nineteen eighties. But anyway, the stadium
was packed with forty nine er colors, much like when
the Niners played the Rams. Anyway, here is Jackson Dart
on what it was like in that environment in Jersey.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Tegolz, that was interesting.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I've never played out a home game where I felt
like it was kind of lopsided in that department.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
But you know, they have a good fan base and
the travel.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Blow Okay, So Jackson Dart, I have never played a
home game essentially with so many visiting fans, is what
he was saying there. So question does that count. Did
Jackson Dart take a subtle shit at the Giant fans.
So I'm gonna go one hundred percent. That is a
subtle shot because if you do the math on this,
I know this is there'd be no arithmetic on this.
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There's really no if sands or a bunch of beout it.
So how did the forty nine er fan procure the
ticket to the game at the stadium there in the
swamp lands of Jersey because all those tickets sold, Right,
there's only one logical path on how that large volume
of forty nine.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Er fans got in there.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Those tickets do not end up in the devices of
the forty nine or fan base by accident. They don't, right,
Giant season ticket holders sold them. They sold them for profit.
That's on the fans, and Jackson Dart by pointing that out,
is indirectly pointing out that the fans cashed in and
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sold the.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Tickets, and can you blame them?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
That's the other part is can you really blame it
if you're dumb enough to buy Giant season tickets?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
The team's been a punchline for a decade now. They've
been garbaged that the Giants used to be good when
I was a kid. They suck and you're sitting there,
you're paying premium PSL and all.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
The other crap you got to pay.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
To have tickets, and you go out there and watch
them pretty much on a weekly basis.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Drop a deuce right at the midfield logo.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
You might as well make a couple of bucks back
if somebody's dumb enough to pay you big money and travel,
whether it's from northern California and it's Niner fans everywhere
again because of Montana back in the eighties', just like
second generation forty nine or third generation forty nine er
fans now, so you can't point the foam finger. You
can't point the foam finger at the fans when the
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team's bad. And they're bad, and that loss wasn't about
crowd noise the Giants they were terrible, and it wasn't
even about the forty nine ers being being supported by
their fans or anything. It was just the Niners played
a dominant game. The Giants went through the motions and
all that. Even back up mac Jones. Mac Jones, who
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was starting to fall off the leg, she came back
there and he was okay. And by the way, if
the Giants want to get Jackson Dart. I assume they
want to get home field advantage and all that stuff
and maybe start putting a more competitive product on the
field now since Cam Skataboo he went out with the injury.
The Giants played terribly last week and now a no
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show performance here this week. So don't blame the resale market.
Do not blame the resale market here. The fans did
not miss tackles. I'm pretty sure that they did not
blow coverages in the secondary there. So to put a
ball on this, Jackson Dart again his comments, while they
seemed rather but nine you have to go down the
rabbit hole and then you see, well, they're not so innocent.
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They're not so innocent. He said, Hey, the fans. What
he's saying is I didn't like the environment. He indicated
that I've never done this before. It didn't seem to
enjoy it. And that was possible because the fans sold
the tickets. They sold out the tickets and another embarrassing
home loss. And so you look ahead and the Giant
fans will do the same thing. It's hard to argue.
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It's hard to argue the fans doing that.
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you know that normally on Sunday Night we focus in
on the island life, the island game, the Sunday Night game.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
That's the most important game on the weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
NBC's got the biggest game every weekend Sunday Night by
itself Primetime. However, we did not begin we did not
begin this show with that game. It was such a
horrific mismatch we decided to move it to the second
hour of the show, and so Sunday Night Football you
had Collinsworth and Tariko there, the Seahawks traveling Armada making
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its way to the Greater Washington, DC area, landover Maryland
where Rick and Maryland says morning time right there. So
I don't know if you saw it or not. Maybe
you didn't watch it. I'm telling you you didn't miss
anything we watched, so you would not have to. It
was a dead of a game, but not a dot
of a game for Sam Darnold, who completed the first
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seventeen passes he attempted. I'm told that's good. Had not one,
not two, not three, but four touchdown passes. All of
that in the first half. Seattle vaporized Washington thirty eight
to fourteen the final in a game that was not
even that close. The game was over at halftime. They
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were doing a bunch of filler stuff in the second half.
But the better story is on the losing side. There'
been a lot of losing there, a lot of losing
for the Washington Commanders this year. It was an absenteeism
performance by the team that represents Washington DC. You know
what they acted like. They acted like politicians is what
they acted like. You know how politicians take a bunch
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of time off. That's the Commanders. They took a bunch
of time off. My god, and now, the game itself
was upstaged by an injury, and we'll address that right now.
This is the snuffleufigus in the room, the injury, and
so Washington lost quarterback Jaden Daniels to snap crackle pop
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as he was injured. Daniels the commander's phenom. You all
told me how great this guy is. He was in
the final four last year with Washington, Jaden Daniels, second
year quarterback. There he left midway through the fourth quarter.
His non throwing arm bent back like it was at
a Halloween horror house, a house of horrors, hunted house there.
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Oh my god, that is disgusting. And there's I'm looking
a photo right here.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Not good.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
So Jaden Daniels is arm twisted back. I was tackled
near the Seattle goal line. And that is a good
jumping off point because this is the story and it's
going to be the hot debate topic in sports media today,
Jaden Daniels being injured. He suffered what we're being told
is a dislocated elbow. He is scheduled to have an
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MRI later to day and that will confirm the injury
and determine how long he is going to be out
of action. The good news is it's not his throwing arm.
The bad news is it is one of his arms.
Generally speaking, you need to have both. You need to
take the snap and when you're going back you gotta
you have your off arm to kind of push away
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defenders and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
So it's a bit of a problem.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Dan Quinn is getting absolutely just cooked for having his
player in the game in garbage time there late. Here
is dan Quinn, the head coach, probably not for long
the way this season's going there in Washington, but here's.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Dan Quinn commenting on why he was in there.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
He was you know who made that decision. Let's find
out here we go, here's the coach.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, not of his face.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
I mean obviously like the hindsight, you don't want to
think that way where you know an injury could take place,
you know, as you were more conservative that spot to
you know, run and hand off and not have reachs
to go. But just the end result mccaut's I'm bump.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
All right, So let us discuss the question. You heard
dan Quinn, coach of Washington. He's getting charbroiled like a
Western bacon cheeseberg. He's get absolutely scharbroiled for the Jaden
Daniels injury in garbage time? Is this criticism warranted? Is
the criticism Warrington? So on this one, I've got popsicle sticks,
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roller coaster, and finger foods, and we will combine all
of these things.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Together and we are going to make a.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Delicious Detroit style pizza which you can make at home. Yeah,
Detroit Detroit stear not bad. I didn't even know that
there was until like five years ago. I didn't even
know what Detroit style pizza was. I know Chicago style,
but Detroit style's kind of a rip off of Chicago Sty's.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
It's not quite as thick and.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
All right, So number on people are losing their minds,
losing their mind. Why was he still in the game,
Jada and Daniels, Why risk it you? Of course, the
argument is, no risk it, no biscuit. So let me
hit the pause button. Hit the pause button on the
remote control here. Now I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna
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say the quiet part out loud. I don't think this
is the worst coaching decision of all time.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I doubt. Oh my god, you're just trying to get attention.
That's why you're on.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Overnights that just don't even post it, no response. I
understand all the arguments against it. Let me make mallards
elevator pitch in support of why dan Quinn had Jade
and Daniels in the game late. It was mid fourth
quarter when the injury happened. Right, you cannot coach scared
number one, Right, you cannot coach scared all right. The
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guy is trying to get a young quarterback some positive reps.
He if you were not watching the game here, if
you're actually honest, Jaden Daniels was not exactly lighting the
world on fire against the Seattle Seahawks. And oh, by
the way, this season when he has played, has not
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looked anything like the guy last year for the Washington Commanders. Right,
so he needed the work. Oh my god, you shouldn't
say that he needed the work. I said that he
needed the work, right, And so dan Quinn was he
chasing points at that at that moment of the game.
He was trying to get some kind of confidence going
for the Commanders, right something, And for Jayden Daniels has.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Been the word for him, My word is nah.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
He's been a meh quarterback this year for Washington and
most of the season, and you want to see how
he's going to do and get some kind of positive
juice going for the Commanders, and you don't pull him
because it's a it's a blowout, you know, and you
need a little bit of scar tissue in the NFL,
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you need that. Unfortunately, the irony is, of course, it
looks like he's going to get actual literal scar tissue
from some kind of medical procedure his shoulder messed up there.
The other issue is that Jaden Daniels, and this was
the argument against him coming out of LSU, is that
he is not designed for professional football, meaning he's built
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like a flagpole.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
He just is.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
He's a stick he's stick like. He's like a stick figure,
skin and bones. And the for him as well, he'll
fill out his body and he'll get stronger as he
gets older and maybe he'll be stronger, maybe it'll be fatter.
Everyone gets bigger as they get older, right, whether you
get fat or whatever. And so so you go through
it and the big question is not so much the
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dan Quinn decision. Again to me, it's the can Jaden
Daniels last in the NFL? Is he built for fling
like a summer flame and not the long term relationship type.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
You know what I'm saying, like more for fun, not
the long term. That's the question question.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And you look at the guy and he's just built
like a couple of popsicle sticks put together there and
optimism and that's not going to last. It's just not
so Again those in the back of the room, if
you're not paying attention because you're doing something there at
the factory or whatever you're doing driving your truck. That's
the argument is this goes with the job. You have
to make these decisions as a coach. And you know,
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somebody's like dan Quinn, I don't think it was a
reckless call, right, And it sounds listening between the words
that Jayden Daniels went off the game plan and put
himself in harm's way there.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
But dan Quinn made a football call, is what he did.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
And he got absolutely burned, as it turns out, because
the guy got hurt. And so the magic carpet ride
for the Washington Commanders last year has turned into a
kamikaze mission this year for the Commanders, as they are
just terrible and like one of the great Fluke runs,
what they did last year getting to the final four
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of the NFL, the NFC Championship game in Philly, And
now you look at him now and they're closer to
getting a top ten pick in the draft the way
they've played this year than they are returning to the
playoffs at this point now, Page two.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
So on the other side.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
As we break down the Sunday Night game, a lot
of chatter about Sam Donald, who sliced up the Commander's
secondary on Sunday Night Football a domination situation. The game
was over at halftime. They were actually singing turnout the
last the parties over literally at halftime, thirty one to seven.
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What's the score at halftime? Donald had all four of
his touchdown passes in the first.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Half of the game. Who was sixteen for sixteen.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
And then got another completion to start the second half.
Seattle improved to six and two. Now, Chris Collinsworth, he
had the Seattle Seahawks onesie on on the broadcast. There
went in down, slobberd chops all over the quarterback. So
Collinsworth mentioned Sam Darnald and saying that Donald should be
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in the ENVP conversation, that Sam Donald should be an MVP,
Holy fire him an Ed and all you Jets fans?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
What are you talking about? All right?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
So the question is it time for us to reevaluate
our long standing position on Sam Donald? Should we reevaluate
the Seattle quarterback Sam Donald and his status as a
Most Valuable Player candidate in the NFL? So on this one,
I'm giving it not side eye. I'm giving it stink eye.
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There's a difference. I'm giving it stink guy here. So
that's all together. Now, pump the brakes now, let's pump
the brakes on that, shall we I'm not there.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I'm not there. I'm not there. I'm not there. I'm
not there.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Chris Collinsworth, I'm convinced that he's already built a statue, a.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Shrine to Sam Darnald. Nobody ballwashes quarterbacks better than Chris Collinsworth.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Can we all agree on that? For a guy that
didn't play quarterback, he was a wide receiver? My god,
maybe we all have someone love us as much as
Sam Donald loves every quarterback and he doesn't know what
to do.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
He can't criticize anyone. It's wild.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
So I'm sure there's a statue somewhere in the greater
Cincinnati area where Collsworth lives. Of him one of the
great ballwashers of our time when it comes to quarterbacks.
And so Collsworth was practically feigning himself in the booth
while talking about Sam Donald, and I would say, I'd
like to quote Aaron Rodgers from years ago.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Relax r E la X Relax.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yes Donald, listen, he was out there like he was
at Lowry's Steakhouse, carving some prime rib in this game,
no question about it.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
He carved up the Washington.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Defense and it looked like the Commander's defense had done
their pregame prep, their warm up at Buffalo Wild Wings.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
They had some beer and wings and went.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Out, let's play some football boys. We'll get some beer,
we'll get some wings. It was thirty one seven again
at halftime. My god, the game was over right before
Carrie Underwood finished singing. The game had already ended, but
for some reason they kept putting it on television. Listen,
Donald did play like a man possessed in this game.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
He did. Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
However, I have a body of work to base my
opinion on. All Right, We've seen this before, Sam Donald.
He did this with the Vikings last year. How my
friends in Minnesota, the nice Minnesota, nice people, they can
tell you all about Sam Donna. Right, Sam Don goes
out there and he was absolutely slicing everybody up last year,
like Patrick Mahomes during the regular season and then in
(33:50):
the late spot regular season last week against the Lions
and then the playoff game against the Rams in Arizona
neutral site because the fires in La.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Well, he went out there and played like.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Josh Rosen taking classes at a school in Pennsylvania business class.
It is the Sam Donald roller coaster experience. Sam Donald
is a roller coaster quarterback. It's all gas. There's a
few loop dy loops, round and round and round and round,
loopy loops and then face plant, face plant. That's the
(34:24):
Sam Donald roller coaster. The seat belts come on hinge
and you go flying off the roller coaster. Well, that's
a bummer. That is an absolute bummer. Cannot depend on them,
cannot do it, cannot depend on them.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Donald is not and.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Will never be in the bubble of trust. Will not
be in the bubble of trust. And this is what
he does. He fools you, Sam Donald fools you. He
does He plays a demonic level of football in a
game like this, threads the needle look like he was
playing against air, just dominating with Jackson Smith and Jigba,
(35:03):
and then the trap door opens up. The trap door
opens up, and then it's falling into Dante's inferno and
Picks seeing ghosts tossing checkdowns on third and fifteen where
you complete the pass for eight yards but you're still
seven yards short of the line to gain, and the
stat sheets shiny and the low information fan gets all horny.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Oh this is great.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
So as far as the MVP on my scorecard, which
is the only scorecard that matters because it's the Ben
Malor Show, Sam Donald isn't even honorable mention, is not
even honorable mention in the MVP race.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
That is a trip to fantasy Land, is what that is.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Call me when he does it against a big time
opponent late in the season of the playoffs, and then
we can revisit this until that happens. That is my position. Now,
final point, high drama in Sin sen Nady. That's where
we go.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Now we're running back.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Chase Bran ripped the Bengals defense. He said, what the
f Now we're not allow to say what he actually
said because I'll get in trouble. Mark says he'll punch
me if I say that. He said, what the f
finish the effing game. That's the running back Chase Brown.
Now Jamar Chase, Chase and Chase all he needs Chase Bank.
(36:22):
So Jamar Chase was heard as he was walking off
the field in the bowels of the stadium. And there's
a lot of thick bowels there in Cincinnati. So Jamar
Chase was heard yelling one effing stop again. We can't
say the actual word. We're not allowed to say the
actual word. So both those guys, Chase and Chase ripping him. Now,
Jamar Chase was pissed off heading the locker room. The
(36:43):
game goes to Chicago forty seven two. It was the
play of the day. We played it last hour, dramatic elite,
a few seconds to go on the clock. Caleb Williams
touchdown passed to win the game. So the question, Jamar
Chase and his partner in crime, running back Chase Brown,
both taking shots at the Cincinnati defense.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
How does that strike you? All right?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
So I'll go first. You can chime in if you want.
This was obviously that big fail.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
It was an.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Epic fail by the Cincinnati defense. Now, typically, having done
this job and sitting I get to come in here
and sit in the cap bird seat overnight quite a bit.
Typically this stuff is not for public consumption. This is
the kind of stuff that gets whispered behind closed doors
and it's like, don't put my name on it, but
here's my opinion. So you genuinely don't get this in
(37:38):
the public theater. The Bengals defense was so bad.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
How bad are they?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
They were so bad they should be brought up on
grand larceny charges. Okay for that. They were total frauds,
total frauds, and they got paid for that performance. Do
you know that the Chicago Bears offense, I think most
even the Bears fans, it's a middling offense. There's talent there,
but it's a middling The Cincinnati Bengals defense gave off
five hundred and seventy six yards to the Bears. The
(38:07):
Bears almost put up six hundred yards of offense on
the road.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
On the road, mind you, Now you know what that's like.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
When you see that kind of offics, you think you
think Kurt Warner greatest show on turf Back in the
dayf you all don't remember the Rams, the Saint Louis
Rams with Tory Holt and all those Marshall Falk and
all those games. Those are the teams that would put
up that kind of yards. The Bears, what are we doing?
Camb Williams looked like Josh Allen in a skills competition
(38:39):
for much of that game. There was no resistance by Cincinnati.
There was no pushback, nothing. Now, if you watched Benny
versus the Penning on YouTube last week, we did take
the Chicago Bears that we got that right. So whatever,
I didn't think it was going to be anything like that.
I did not imagine that this game would be as
high scoring and that it would be.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
It was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Ninety something points, just just absolute ridict in this game.
And so this is not some isolated thing. Though that's
the other issue. This is not some isolated thing. This
defense has been the worst in the NFL this season.
The Bengals were number thirty two, they would be thirty third,
but there's only thirty two teams, so the thirty second
(39:18):
team worst defense in the NFL, and so they were
bad coming into this game, and somehow they found a
lower level like we suck, How can we suck more? Okay,
let's give up five hundred and seventy six yards and
then will be a super sonic suck. And there they were,
and Zach Taylor has no answers the coach, and he's
(39:39):
not in danger of being fired because that would mean
the Bengals would have to pay him to not coach,
and that's a tight wad franchise. So I'd be shocked
if they fired Zach Taylor. If you look at Zach Taylor,
he's got no answers. No, it's finger food, is what
it is in Cincinnati, and he's the buffet. Everyone's pointing
the finger at pointing the finger here there tackling t
(40:00):
variable right, soft serve, soft serve defense guys were bouncing
off the Bears players like they were playing bumper cars.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
It was embarrassing. And you could have put a velvet
rope and.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
A couple of scarecrows out there and gotten the same
result if you're the Cincinnati Bengals on defense. There, Caleb
Williams carved them up, and Joe Flacco carved up the Bears.
He had old man Flacco Elite Joe Flacco jump ball
Joe had his first four hundred and seventy plus yard
passing game, as he put four hundred and seventy yards
passing him. Never did that with the Ravens or all
(40:33):
the other teams. He's played for four touchdowns and it
still wasn't enough. And to me, that's the story here.
You waste that kind of offensive output where Tie Higgins
gout in the end zone. I believe a couple of
times at both he and Jamar Chase went over one
hundred yards and your defense you waste that because your
defense has the backbone of a beach towel. Okay, Zach
(40:57):
Taylor's Bengals are stuck in the mud. They are stuck
in the mud, and the frustration is boiling over right.
The chases are chasing accountability. The problem is nobody on defense,
nobody on defense is catching that bug of accountability. There
is no accountability. And they are doing a lot of
(41:18):
good finger pointing, which is good for talk radio. So
I'm sure that story. We're gonna circle that one and
I'm gonna highlight it. And I have a feeling as
we go through the week, there'll be the follow up
to the follow up. There could be an apology by
one of the Bengal players who called out the defense.
They'll say it's a heat of the moment. Someone lower
level could lose their job, the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
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Speaker 3 (41:44):
Here we go, how about that? The third degree? This
is one gets crack.
Speaker 7 (41:54):
Then, after the Blue Jays World Series loss, Max Scherzer
said he is not going to retire. He can't imagine
that being his last pitch he's ever thrown. Yeah, he
didn't have a good regular season. Do you think there's
gonna be a lot of desire from Excherz?
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah, he'll sign with somebody like who thinks they can
squeeze out half a season. He'll take half the year
off like he did this year in Toronto and suck
and then somebody said, well he's got that playoff pedigree.
How'd that work out? In Game seven next.
Speaker 7 (42:18):
Cooper Flagg addressed his tough start in this league. He
said it's a tough league, and he said he doesn't
think it's anything.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
That anybody should be worried about.
Speaker 7 (42:27):
Ben, Do you think they should be worried about it
or is this more of like a bad situation type of.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Well, when you're the number one pick in the draft,
you're supposed to come out guns of blazing. He has
not come out guns of blazing here. So it's too
soon to completely say this guy is falling for Cooper
Flagg obviously him. He's only played a few games in
the NBA the season. No one's really paying attention to
the NBA that much, but the numbers are not good
and he just doesn't look like he's got a higher level,
(42:51):
which is problematic. I have not seen it, so I
haven't watched too many Maverick games. When I have, I've
not been over the impressed.
Speaker 7 (42:56):
Next Texas Longhorns have won four games in a row.
Archie Manning had his breakout game this past weekend. One
ESPN analyst even said he's played his way back into
the Heisman conversation.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
I was gonna ask if you think that's true, but uh,
I think I know the answer.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
No.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Listen, there's a lot of people that want it.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
They don't want to die on that Manning's a Heisman
can he's not a candidating Please? Cool?
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Come on? How did we do.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Come past all right, that's bad. Let the take go,
Come on, let the take go.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
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Speaker 3 (43:40):
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Speaker 7 (43:43):
Who here?
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Were you talking to?
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Songs?
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Here some intertent advice?
Speaker 5 (43:47):
Hold that thun, No one's paid attention to me for
ten whole seconds.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
And if you don't like it, anyway, we go.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
It's the instant advice line unscreened radio.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
The safety net.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Comes off, and who needs our advice in the world
of sports this well, I think it's rather obvious the
dramatic ending of.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
The World Series. We need to help out. You know,
we're not evil Americans. We need to help out.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Our brothers and sisters in Canada who are fans of
the national team, the Toronto Blue Jays. There as the
Blue Jays were a couple outs away and then they
checked into the Heartbreak Hotel. So advice to Blue Jay
fans on how to deal with blowing a lead in
the ninth inning. And they had multiple multi run leads
(44:26):
in the World Series. So advice to Blue Jay fans
on how to deal with blowing the lead and losing
the World Series. You're live on the air when you
hear my voice at eight seven seven ninety nine on
Fox eight seven seven nine nine six six three six nine.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
We'll start out with you online number one. Hello, line one, your.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Advice to Blue Jay fans. Line one, Line one is
not paying attention. We'll go to line too, Hello, line too.
You're on the airline too.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
You need invest in louder trash cans and better buzzers.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah, George Springer. Clearly he had something was working, but
they stopped working. They malfunctioned there at the end. Hello,
I call it. You're on their advice to Blue Jay
fans on how to deal with blowing the lead and
losing the World series.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Good morning time, look out series.
Speaker 6 (45:13):
Now.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
To maintain one strength, you must freeze a popsicles.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
That's a pretty bird though, all right.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Thank you, Frany.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
The monologue we did about Jade and Daniels who was
hurt in the Sunday night game and looks like he'll
be out for a while.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Line number four, Hello, line four.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Backed to Mack champions Baby, we did it then nobody
believed in us.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Oh, you're an angel fan for a dog. Line one,
you're on the air.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
We're giving advice to Blue Jay fans on how to
deal with blowing the lead and losing the World Series
in Game seven.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Hello, you're on the air. Okay, thank you for that
line too. Hello.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Line two, can you ask the guy from Dayton what
his activities are at his place? Yes, I'll ask Dick
and Dayton what his activities are. That's what everyone wants
to hear, Blind Scott.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Line three, you're on the air. Line three.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Hello, Line three is not paying attention. We're going to
line for you live on the air. Do not listen
on the radio. You'll f this up eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Line number four. All right, Line four is not there?
What is going online?
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Number one? Hello? Line one, Kendrick defeated Drake again.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Oh that's right, Drake with the Curse of Drake Shawn
the line number two.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Hello, line two.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
You must chew your food then you won't choke.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Okay, that's solid advice, Thank you, Rick and Maryland. Line three,
you're on the Airline three. We're giving advice to the
Toronto Blue Jay fans on how to deal with blowing
the lead and losing the World Series. Hello, you're on
the airline three. Hey, hols Okay, thank you, that's very nice.
I'm sure they love that.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Line four. Hello, Line four.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
With Otani and Yarmoto on that Dodger team, Woody Allen
or Woody Johnson could match.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
All right, well, thank you, what do you well? That's
true Woody Allen reference though.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Line one. You're on the airline one.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
We're giving advice to Toronto fans on how to deal
with their heartbreak Hotel Stay. They thought they'd won the
World Series and they lost it. Hello, you're on the
airline one.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Boy, the World Series was on.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Ah, I'm just kidding. Psych Line number two Hello, Line two.
Line two is not there. We'll go to line three.
Line three. Advice to Blue Jay fans.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Line three, oh Man, weaken Saxis by all declaring that
the best team.
Speaker 7 (47:28):
Did not win.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Okay, all right, stop with your nonsense. Get back to
your worship of Taylor Swift. Line number four, Hello, line four.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
They should have picked up Steve in Manhattan to run
the bases.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
That's right, Steve's a great that's a great point, supermarket Steve.
I will do one more, only one more. If it's good,
I'll take credit. If not, all bamakoop Final Call is
a device line.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
For the Blue Jay fans. Line three, Line three. You're
on the Airline three, go oh life off. You gotta
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