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November 13, 2025 42 mins

Big Ben talks about Eagles WR A.J. Brown turning whistleblower on the Eagles offense, Falcons QB Michael Penix Jr. saying that he has no one to help him, Maller to the Third Degree, #AskBen, and much more!

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Storylines, You're like, man, this is great.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
I have a daily talk show every night I have
to come into talk radio and how boring would it
be if there was nothing interesting to talk about. So
we're gonna start out in in Philly and here we
go again. The Eagles continue to be the most disfunctional
seven and two team in modern organized football.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Now you would think you would.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Think the Eagles based on the air around the building,
you would think they are two and seven.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
And the drama is just oozing out of the team
facility there. It's like a ruptured sewer. Line, and man,
is that great? Boy? I can't tell you how great
that is.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
So if you've not heard the latest on this, if
you're not keeping up on it because you actually have
a life, perhaps not here.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Disgruntled the wide receiver A J. Brown.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
He jumped on a Twitch stream this week. A lot
of our sports news. This is something that didn't exist
years ago. We had a lot of our sports news
on Twitch. Guy's gaming. That's where we got the famous
sound from that World Series stiff for the Dodgers, who
mister Blake Snell there, Vassay's buddy who went out there
and rode the vomit common in the World Series.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
But it was on Twitch.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
He said, I ain't playing this ag at mind brawl,
I'm risking my life brawl. That was from Twitch. What
happening at AJ Brown was on there is playing Madden.
You know, that's what all the cool guys do. And
then right after the Monday night game, Monday night football
game there the day after and he casually, casually made
a decree to those that play fantasy football, which is

(03:52):
probably you. And the decree was, if you got me
on fantasy, he said, get rid of me.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Now he was asked about that.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
He was asked about that, and surprisingly he did not
back down. I believe that's the third AJ Brown cut.
But here's AJ Brown. He was asked whether or not
he's gonna apologize for the comments he made on Twitch
and let's hear.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
What he had to say, or right, you know that
in that moment where I'm just talking to my friend,
having found with my friend, I'm not apologizing for that,
like I said, because if you have eyes, you can
see that, and so like, it's not that I was
throwing anybody on the bus.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
I'm literally trying to laugh through.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
Oh, but I'm trying to make fun of the situation
and to try to get through it.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
So you know, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yes, it's such a tragedy of humanity and thoughts and
prayers to AJ Brown to smile while you don't get
targeted enough with the football. It's one of the great
American tragedies that we have today. Man, all right, but wait,
there's more. That's every great late night infomercials, says, wait
there's more. So AJ then stands in front of the

(05:04):
locker and continues to wax poetic about the state of
the Eagles even though there's seven and two, the top
record in the National Football Conference. He's standing in front
of his locker. They're telling reporters that the offense is
not they're not doing their job. Do your job, they're
not doing their job. And here's Aj Brown, but it's

(05:25):
cut one on this take our listen.

Speaker 6 (05:27):
We're really focusing on winning and doing our job like that.
We can't just keep slapping the band aid over the
defense doing their job and getting us out of trouble.
At what point we're gonna pick up ox slack as
an offense that we're saying we're so great, you know?
And that's where I'm getting it. It's not about we're
not winning or I don't care about winning. All I
care about is step No, it's been a week out

(05:50):
the week. Sometimes we're not contributing.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
We're not doing our job on offense. So you can't
keep slapping a band aid over there.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
And if you strict the win later late in the
year and you think you're gonna go to it at
end of the year, it's not gonna all right.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
There you go, Hey, we've got three bleeps in.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
That's good, all right, So that's a good jumping off
points this the Eagles offense not doing their job, and
of course not about the stats, not about the stats. No, no, no, no, okay.
So we'll jump off on that point and let us
discuss the question.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
What is your read on A. J.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Brown and turned. I guess whistleblower would be the way
we'll describe this. A whistle blower on the Eagles offense,
the state of the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
The record would indicate very good.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
AJ Brown. The way he's sounding not so good. So
my thoughts on this, I've got dashboard, hula girl, smoke detector,
and camp counselor, and we will put all of these
things into a food processor and we're gonna make some
puree out of this. So he let me begin by saying,

(06:53):
God bless AJ Brown. He got paid and he is
providing content not for the Eagles, but for gas bags
from coast to coast, from sea to shining Sea. This
guy refuses to play nice, and I'm here for it.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
I got buttered popcorn.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
He is filling up the content machine on a weekly basis.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
You realis I went back, I looked through my notes.
I've gotten at.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Least one AJ Brown monologue in I believe it's eight
out of the eleven weeks of the NFL season. That
is unbelievable production by AJ Brown. I guess outstanding. Typically
headphones to AJ Brown here and so in the cartoon
bubble in my head, and you have a different cartoon
bubble in your head, because if you're in my head,

(07:36):
you're a stocker. But in the cartoon bubble in my head,
AJ Brown is driving around in a very expensive automobile
with Hannah. Now you know who Hannah is. Hannah is
the dashboard hula girl from Arco and he's bringing that
sutty personality where she is. He gets that venturous spirit
and pouring gasoline on the Eagles offense there because it's quality,

(07:58):
top tier gas for last and stir the pot.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Stir the pot.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
It's not like the locker room already smells like a
chemical spill despite the record.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Heck, they need green hazmat.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Suits to go in there, because that I mean, the
tell you there's a toxic plume of green coming out,
and shelter in place order.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Shelter in place. Do not breathe the fubes. Do not
breathe the fubs.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Now we love that AJ admitted that he just he's
just reading off the talking points.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
One of the sound bites he gave. He's as I said,
all the right things after after the.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
Game, and uh.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
And then it still became a story, which means that
he went to sportscliche dot com, a website that I
have been a contributor to a few times over the
years of my name is in the mentions of people
that have contributed content to that website. I love the cliche,
I live for the cliche. I love the mockla cliche.
So sports cche dot com and he just copy and

(08:58):
pasted some some click and we just got to execute,
you know, move, move on and all that stuff. And
so that backfired. So then he just went on Twitch
and said what he really felt.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Now Page two.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
And the whispers out of Philly there's another layer to this.
The whispers out of Philly say that that Bizarro deep
shot on fourth down and six. You remember Monday night, if
you saw the whole game, the Eagles had the ball,
they had a three point lead, There was about thirty
seconds to go in the game. It was fourth down
and six and at Lambeau and it turns out they

(09:35):
they passed and it was not a play. According to
the whispers from the Eagle locker room, it was not
a play that was called by coach Nick Sirianni or
the offensive coordinator. The boys decided to freelance it. They
ignored the headset, They annoyed, they were annoyed, but they
ignored the offensive coordinator, Kevin Patulo, and the head coach there,

(09:58):
and so Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown. I guess they
they went rogue, as the report goes, and that the
play was incomplete, giving the Packers another shot. Now, now
coach Kevin Sirianni, Oh, Kevin sirious a, Knick Seria. I
don't know Kevin, maybe his brother, Nick Sirianni. So he
got into a spirited back and forth with the with

(10:21):
the media over the.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Play and the lack of targets. We have some audio
on that. I think it's a cut too from Sirianni.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
But here's Nick Sirianni, and listen to how the temperature
gets raised.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Take a listen.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Apparably we don't have that, but he said, I knew
exactly what the play was and that we were calling,
and that that was run in the moment, he said,
And then the reporter questioned him, and he came back,
Sirianni in the blow bible, He said, wait a minute,
is that a Are we debating? Was the way he
answered it, and and so they went back and forth,

(10:59):
but it was it was interesting, Are we in a debate?
That was the money quote from Nick Sirianni as he
shot back. So the question, I wish we had it,
but we don't. So what's the temperature in the Eagle
coaches room? As Nick Sirianni gets into it with the
reporters there and they're questioning the targets for aj Brown

(11:19):
and all that, and he comes back and just says,
are we in a debate?

Speaker 5 (11:23):
With the reporter?

Speaker 1 (11:24):
So the temperature in the room here is it's smoky,
it's a little spicy. It's in fuego. It's making a
run to Taco bell at two in the morning, That's
what that is. He's an angry.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Bird flapping at the podium.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Sirianni there because he knows, right, he knows deep down
these guys they tune them out.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
A lot of.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Players tune out the coaches. But this has been going
on for a while now. Instead of just cleaning up
the mess, Sirianni gives you that koy I knew exactly
what the play was, what we called what happened, acting
like he's testifying in front of Congress. So instead of
just answering the question, now, did Jalen Hurtz and AJ

(12:11):
Brown conspire for an audible on that player or not?
It's a yes or no situation. Sirianni looked like a
guy who was caught trying to fuld a fitted sheet.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Uh, you know, it.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Just didn't really seem like he was happy. He was angry,
a little confused. There's the temperature getting raised, there, the
sweat blaming the sheet that he was trying to, you know,
to put on the bed, and.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
You could hear the fuse burning on him.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
And this whole AJ Brown thing that this guy's become
a walking smoke detector for Drama again every week, Beep beep,
beep be Time to change the battery. That changed another issue,
And now Nick Sirianni sniping at reports.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Are we in a debate?

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yes, Nick, because your offense looks like it's stuck in molasses.
This team is seven to two, and yet it feels
like they're hosting the La La palooza for dysfunction. Every
tent is chaos palooza. The headliner Hurts and Brown, which

(13:23):
sounds like a law firm the rogue sessions. So major,
major red flag.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
On this one.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
All right, last word, so let's go big picture on
this as we continue the theme of the hour. The
reigning Super Bowl champions at Pro Football the.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Birds.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
So question thumbs up or thumbs down thumbs up, thumbs
down on the internal angst between AJ Brown, Jalen Hurts,
and Nick Sirianni affecting the Eagles law long term. All right,
so you have to really stretch your imagination on this one.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Okay, we'll start with.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
This because they are, as we said, seven and two,
and they look like they're being held together by duct
tape and a Xanax prescription. So I'm gonna go in
terms of the question thumbs up thumbs down to this
being this internal issue affecting the Eagles long term.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
I'm gonna go thumbs up because you know who the
Eagles are.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
The Eagles are like the guy that wins a blackjack
tournament while his marriage has collapsed, his car is getting repolled,
and the hotel just kicked him out.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Because his credit card no longer works. The scoreboard looks fine,
all right.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Things are kind of in the dumpster though, Like Nick
Sirianni standing there like a camp counselor and he's got
it's in the middle of summer.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
He's a camp counselor.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
There's no bug spray, and they're getting swarmed by locusts,
overwhelmed and clearly not in control. Every win, every win
comes with drama, a new league here, a new fight
over there, a new cryptic quote. This week we had
a new twitch uh twitch ray on the video game Pig.
So it's the classic. Winning is masking the rot and

(15:16):
there's a lot of rot. It's masking the rod. And
it's a nice paint job. Yeah, your house is covered
in termites. You want to sell the house, so you
put some new dry wall up and you paint the
house and you're like, okay, we're gonna just cover up
the termitesat and we're good. Uh. And the crazy part,
I'm sure if you you said to them behind the scenes,

(15:36):
do you think this is gonna work? That they say, well, yeah,
it's sustainable. I don't think they're lying by that. They
believe it's sustainable.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
For them.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
They're winning through complete dysfunction, and it is impressive and
it's deeply stupid at the same time. Dumb d dumb,
dumb dumb. It's just fascinating. And the Eagles could have,
should have, probably would have traded AJ Brown if they
had known this was going to continue. But how could
they not know this was going to continue? It has

(16:03):
been an ongoing theme that has shadowed the Philadelphia Eagles
for the better part of two years now. AJ Brown
got there, he got paid, and it's like he's the
forgotten man in the offense. And it's pretty pretty wild,
all right, So they think they're going to be able
to get it done. I would bookmarket done this for

(16:26):
more than a couple of years now, and this stuff
almost always shows.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Up in January, and then when.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
You finally lose in the playoffs, it's where the poop
hits the fan and there's poop in the air everywhere,
and all the dirty laundry comes out. I didn't like
that guy, I didn't like that. I'm pointing fingers over here.
And the Eagles, they are a playoff team built on
what built on passive, aggressive comments, burner accounts.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
And rogue fourth down audibles, it would appear. What could
possibly go wrong? What could possibly go wrong with all
of that stuff?

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Speaker 1 (17:45):
And our lead this hour is from the atl Atlanta George.
The Falcons are a hot mess, yet again, yet again
here in twenty twenty five. Now they're the quarterback is
kicking the hornet's nest. And I'm gonna talk about the
Atlanta Falcons because we do broadcasting, not narrow casting. But

(18:09):
we have a mantra we go where the news of
the day takes to say, and I wake up, I
have no idea, what I'm going to talk about the
following night and just kind of let things work themselves out,
and they almost always.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Do, very rarely, very rarely.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Is there not that much going on, There's always something.
So if you didn't see this and maybe not. The
Falcons were expected to be pretty good this year, they're not.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
They're not.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
And their quarterback was supposed to take things to a
higher level.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
He's not. No, So when asked who who he has to.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Lean on during these trying times, Falcons quarterback Michael Pennex
Junior was honest and well, his honesty is the story.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
We have the audio tape. Let's go to the audio tape.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Here's Michael Pennex Junior again, asked about who he leans
on during these trying times.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Take a listen.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
Like mentally, I like my fiance.

Speaker 8 (19:05):
She's always there for me, So I know whenever I
get home, it doesn't matter how I played, she's always
gonna be there for me. She's gonna have a smile
on her face and give me a hug and make
me feel.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Feel good no matter what.

Speaker 8 (19:19):
But as far as you know, as far as like physically,
the on the field stuff, it's not nobody that I'll
talk to like as far as another quarterback or anything
like that.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
You know, I do have people reach out to me.

Speaker 8 (19:30):
I do have quarterback coaches though back at home that
that reach out to me as well. You know, tell me, hey,
like you need to clean this up, clean that up,
you know, and everything would be good. So those guys
help me as far as that too, so I can
shout out them.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
All right.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
So he didn't mention the head coach, She did not
mention the quarterback coach. He did not his quarterback coach
is offensive coordinator? Or did he mention the backup quarterback
Kirk Cousins. So that's pretty good jumping off point. Let
us discuss the question who is more to blame for
the Falcons mess with Michael Pennock Jr. Looking like a
total bust and not evenere close to a franchise quarterback,

(20:11):
just just a typical run of the mill quarterback who'll
be selling insurance in a couple of years. So who's
more to blame for the Falcons mess with Michael Pennock Jr.
Is it the quarterback, the coach or the backup quarterback?

Speaker 5 (20:25):
All right?

Speaker 1 (20:25):
So my observations on this one, all right, my observations
on this one. I've got chopped onions, We've got silver
tongued devil, and we also have if that was not enough,
we have the always a popular romania, and we will
combine all of these things together and we are going

(20:48):
to put the biscuit in the basket.

Speaker 9 (20:50):
So number stop, stop the things bro stop, all right,
So here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Okay, the Falcons. And you know, if you've heard this
show once a month or once every two years, what
do I always say? The better stories in the losing
locker room? And I can't get enough of bad. But
only when you're supposed to be good is it great?
And that is the Atlanta Falcons to a t. This

(21:27):
is a slow motion bus crash. And we're all rubberneckers,
all of us who pay attention. We believe that in
this case with Michael Pennix, h this is gonna shock you.
Nobody else has this take it's personal responsibility that Michael
Pennex SJU and your should blame the man in the
mirror and should take ownership on this.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
There's no passing the buck.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
No well, actually no, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
No no.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Michael pennexj Andr looks less like a first round quarterback
and more like an Amazon delivery driver trying to find
the right house and the GPS isn't working. There's less
than you look at the numbers, less than sixty percent completions.
I believe in today's bubble scream throw behind the line

(22:15):
of scrimmage, NFL offense malpractice.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Mal practice is what that is.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
And don't give me the whole Somebody will saying, well,
Kirk Cousins should be the veteran mentor.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
That's a bad job. You don't give me that. Rigamaroor.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Cousins, last I checked, is not a big brother, and
I don't get it. There have been some quarterbacks over
the years that have said, listened, I'm not a mentor,
and guys like Joe Flacco Roethlisberger said that years ago,
and that's the proper position. I've never understood. It's one
of the dumbest things that sports fans say, Well, we

(22:50):
need the quarterback to mentor the other quarterback. Cousins is
not paid to hold Michael Pennix's hand and read him
bedtime stories from the old Kyle Shanahan playbook back in
the day. He's paid to play football and not run
some kind of quarterback daycare for first round projects. That's

(23:11):
not why Cousins is there. And yeah, as Cousins sucked.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
On the field, sure right.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
And this whole idea that Cousins was supposed to shepherd
in his replacement, well that wasn't well thought out. Please right,
If anything, he should hand him a map and say
all right, here's the nearest exit. Good luck, and then
you've got Raheem Morris. Now, Atlanta could have hired Bill Belichick.
They didn't want Bill Belichick to hire Raheem Morris. Now

(23:40):
you can goof on Belichick all you want, say, snooping
the young girl, they're the floozy and he's washed up
and all that. That's fine, But you hired Raheem Morris
over Belichick.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
You could have had the same record.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
At least you would have add Belichick on your sidelines.
Raheem Morris is showing yet again, great assistant coach, terrible
head coach, can act same guy. By all accounts, people
in the NFL say, Rahie Morris is a likable person,
he's got some raw raw energy to him.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
He's a defensive coach, right, He's a defensive coach, and
Pennex made a point not to.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Mention him, not to.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Mention him or his handpicked by Raheem Morris offensive coordinator,
Zach Robinson. That's a tail, that is a tel, that
is in fact a diadi it is. That's like a
Yelp review without the restaurant's name. You're screaming through the omission.

(24:39):
There's an obvious omission there, and do not get fool.
This is something we've learned. We learned this with Belichick,
more famous than anything, the Belichick Tree. A lot of
people have gone out and hired the Sean McVay coaching tree.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
And when you hire.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
People from Sean mcvay's staff, they don't come with Sean McVay.
Zach Robinson was not mastermind in La La Land.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
In the hood in Inglewood. He was the soux chef.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
He was the one chopping onions while McVeigh cooked up
the entree. And so Atlanta hired the assistant to the
assistant manager.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
The Falcons did.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
And they're expecting a nice Michelin star cuisine or at
least a good solid steakhouse, and instead what have they got.
They've got a stagnant offense that tastes like a lot
of chemicals.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
It's very bland, very very bland, lukewarm, lukewarm. It's kind
of like the order soup and it comes out it's
kind of cool.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
Well, I don't want soup.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
That's cool. I don't want I want the warm soup.
Why want I get souped?

Speaker 5 (25:41):
That's cool?

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Nobody wants that, and it's it should have come with
a government warning.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
The way this is set up here may cause drowsiness.
Watching the Atlanta Falcons sixteenth in total offense, middle of
the pack passing team. They're just background noise. They're drywall
and two add humiliation on top of systemic incompetence in
the state of Georgia. The Atlanta Falcons decided this was

(26:10):
going to be their year. Now, how do I know?
The Falcons decided this was going to be their year.
The Falcons traded their twenty twenty six first round draft
pick to the Lrims. You can ram it all day,
you can ram it all night. And while the Rams,
many people believe, are the team to beat in the NFC,
the way Matthew Stafford's playing in that defense, the brilliant

(26:31):
coaching of Sean McVay. The Rams are obviously on a burner.
They're surging right now. The Falcons are three and six,
so that means if this continues, the La Rams will
be drafting in the.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Top ten of the NFL Draft and.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Potentially playing in a Super Bowl. So the Falcons are
three and six this year and they don't get to
use their pick because they don't have their pick.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
They traded the pick to.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Improve the defense because they assumed that Michael Pennox Junor
was going to take them next step. How did that
work out? And so you've got Raheem Morris barring, barring,
Michael Pennix Junior barring, barring. All right, meanwhile, Pattree, we
go to Motown where the Lions run hot and cold.

(27:17):
They're on a uptick right now. Big game this weekend
the Lions and the Philadelphia Eagles. Dan Campbell does he
want the tush push band or does he support the
tush push Well, it's a big storyline anytime the Eagles
are involved. Here's Dan Campbell waxing loquacious the Lions coach

(27:38):
about his position on the future of the Tushy Pushy.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Take a listen, I don't I don't.

Speaker 10 (27:44):
Well, here's why I'm the purest man. You take something
else out of the game, then we're taking the next
thing out of the game. Then you're taking another thing
out of the game. Then pretty soon we're not we
don't have pads anymore, and then pretty soon it's you're
only playing thirty minutes, and then pretty soon it's you know,
So that's why I don't want to take it out
of the game.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
There's a.

Speaker 10 (28:02):
You know, it's it's something a team's got a niche,
they found something, they're good at it, and it's for
everybody else to stop and uh and it's unique and
it's physical, and I just, more than anything, I just
don't want to take anything else out of the game.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
You know.

Speaker 10 (28:17):
I just want to leave the game alone.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
It's me, all right, There is Dan Campbell.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
So question, you just heard Lions coach Dan Campbell singing
the praises of the Eagles toush Push. Do you love
it or do you hate it?

Speaker 5 (28:31):
All right?

Speaker 4 (28:32):
So I love it.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Campbell's out there serenading the toush Push like it's the
star speckled banner. I pledge allegiance. No, he is right,
and that's a great point. I wish more people would
realize what he's talking about there when he talks about, well,
you start taking stuff out and then you take more
stuff out. It's kind of like taxation. You know, America
started with one of the reasons people came over to

(28:55):
America that kind of formed the country was, you know,
taxation without representation. They wanted taxes, and originally they started
just a little bit of taxes, and then they kept
adding and adding and adding and adding and adding and
adding and adding and adding and adding and adding and
adding and add and you get the point. Uh So
that's where we are where we are now. And you
say just a little bit, just I'm gonna take one
thing out and he's take another thing out. I'm gonna
put one thing in and put one thing.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Uh yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
So now he is right because banning the torch push
just because Jalen.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Hurts, you're too good at it.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
Uh yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
It's like when they famously banned the slam dunkin basketball
was embarrassing then, and it's embarrassing that if the NBA
today would get rid of the three point shot because
Steph Curry.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Has been too good, it'd be ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
But it would be like, in the NFL, you know
that my homes in the playoffs is usually too good,
So why don't we just ban in the playoffs, We'll get.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Rid of the forward pass.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
And because he's making the defenses usually look bad and
uh you know they make him look like mal cops
during the holiday shift and all that stuff. Uh yeah,
just too much success. Shut it down. Shut it down
out of an abundance of caution. And people crying about
tush push are the same people.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
To cry about everything.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
Now.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
The reason I'm employed is because of you people, So
I thank you for complaining about everything. I remember when
I'm so old, I remember they brought this wildcat play in.
The Dolphins ran it with great success in the first game,
and oh my god, they've got to put a rule
in to stop the wildcat Hell RPOs. People are like,
I don't know about those RPOs. I don't I don't
I don't like that motion. I don't like the motion

(30:25):
in the ocean. I don't like that. They hate everything
except their team being good. And Dan Campbell sees through
the whining. At least it sounds like that he knows
that the NFL has already bubble wrapped the sport and
there's too many hard hits.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Let's get rid of the hard hits. Okay, we'll get
rid of the hard hits.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
You know, kickoffs, gotta newter those, cut the balls off those,
We've done that. This is the same league that used
to sell and I remember this.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
This was in the early nineties.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
They last sold it the VHS tape called Thunder and Destructed.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Thunder look it up. I'm not making it up. Thunder
and Destruction.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
And now they slap fines on defensive players because they
breathe too aggressively or they look at a quarterback the
wrong way. They give them elevator eyes, and that's a penalty.
That's a punishment. From a viewer standpoint, I get that
people argue that tush push is boring.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
It is a battering ram of a play. It's a
rugby play. It's the problem is it's ninety five percent successful.
What's the point of watching something is ninety five percent successful.
It's not sexy, it's not really innovative.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
However, it is legal and it's within the rule book
of the NFL.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
And so rather than get upset about, I think you
should celebrate the fact that Philly found this niche, right,
they found their niche. And this is what sports is
all about, all right, when you get down to the
basic part of sports, it's problem solving, it's strategy. If
it's unstoppable, then you should run the play as well.

(32:03):
If Philadelphia can run it at ninety five percent success, right,
you should be able to run it at least at
eighty five percent.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
And if you can't run it, then come up with
a way to stop it. Just keeping it real.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Now, Also, Detroit, here's the other factor. Detroit does play
Philadelphia's we mentioned this week, and what do you want
Dan Campbell to say? Yeah, it's garbage. I hope the
league bans it before Sunday. Come on, he's buttering the bread.
He's a silver tongue devil when it comes to this,
and he knows Dan Campbell. If he trash talked it
and then Jalen Hurts converted three of them on his skull,

(32:40):
he'd looked.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Like a clown.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
And so not that he doesn't already look like a clown,
but Campbell's basically saying, hey, we're rehn. We don't complain.
You want it, stop beat it. And that's how it
should be, whether that's his actual position or not. And
the NFL is at are well, it's sometimes sloppy. You
don't tell Paca so to.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Say, you know you're using too much blue.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
You got to cut back on the blue. You don't
outlaw play because your your team can't run it. You shouldn't,
you know, not not go play the philosophy. So stop
the legislation against success. I just grow up and lift
some more weights. Figure something out. There's if they can
run it as good as they have, there's a way

(33:25):
to stop it. Just people haven't figured out how to
stop it.

Speaker 11 (33:27):
Now.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
The final point staying with the Lions quick right, So
we had a Lion Commander game that was a blowout.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
It was such a blowout that.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Commanders demoted their defensive coordinator because he was incompetent, and
so they made Dan Quinn do the walk of shame
and take over as the play caller. But in that game,
we had a bunch of touchdowns by Detroit and a
celebration for a president.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
However, people got offended by that, and so the.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Question is how do you classify Lions wide receiver aman
Ross Saint Brown apologizing for his Trump dance after he scored.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
One of the touchdowns there.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
We actually have some audio on this.

Speaker 12 (34:11):
Here.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Here is the apology. Here's I'm on Rossaint Brown Tiglas.

Speaker 11 (34:15):
First of all, if I offended anyone, I do apologize.
I did not mean to offend anyone. It was just
we're having fun. You know, if any president was at
that game, I would if they had a dance, I
would have done. It had nothing to do with who
the president was.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
All right, So it's a silly presidential jig that it's nothing.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
And I asked the question, who is really mad about
a dance? You feel me on that? You feel me
on that? Seriously? I I think.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
People have this warped sense. I think most people and
I've gone out and done these meet and greets, and
most people aren't very political.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
That's number one. They just trying to.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Live your life.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
You're trying to get through life, and you're not gonna
get all worked up.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
He did a little shit me for a sitting president
that was in the building. Whoopee, damn do Okay, I'm
on Rossain Brown. The only people who are truly upset
were the bought accounts firing off endless emojis from a
server farm located somewhere in Romania. Nobody with a job

(35:19):
or a mortgage, nobody working who has to use an
alarm clock to go to work.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Gives a damn about this. Real human saw it. Let
me tell you what happened. I must speak for the people.
Real humans saw it.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Few of them chuckle, few of them didn't chuckle. Then
they went back to eating their chicken wings and their nachos,
and their peanuts and their hot dogs.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
And that was that. This is what happens when.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
The nfl overlaps with social media, and the tiniest breeze,
just a little breeze, becomes a Cat five outrage hurricane.
And so Sam Brown wasn't lighting a fuse. This is
not some kind of culture war bombing run by I'm
on Ross. Saint Brown hand some fun so nothing burger
with a side of X.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Fries from Twitter. They used to be called Twitter Back
of the day.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller
Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
It's Mallard, how about that?

Speaker 2 (36:19):
To the third degree? This is one Big Ben gets
grilled Kulo.

Speaker 12 (36:27):
The Jaguars were well on their way to six and
three when they choked away a nineteen point lead to
the Texans. Liam Cohen basically said the team needs to
flush it and move on now. Ben if the season
ended today, the Jags would still be in the playoffs.
Will that be the case when the season actually ends.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
I'm gonna go know on that. It is a there's
a lot.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Of fragility with the Jacksonville football team. They look like
the same old Jags.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Maybe a little better than the same old Jags, but
they're not particularly good. Trevor Lawrence is just kind of blah.
He's not a transitional generational player.

Speaker 12 (37:04):
Now.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
The Jacks have a very easy schedule, so they should.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Win a bunch of these games, but the other team
looks at them and say we can beat them.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
So I'm gonna go know on Jacksonville making plus next.

Speaker 12 (37:13):
The governor of Missouri suggested this week that Aarrowhead Stadium
renovates with a retractable roof in order to keep the
Chiefs from moving to a new dome stadium across the
border in Kansas. Yeah, and where do you think the
Chiefs are headed? Well, I hear Kansas.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
That's where they across these you know, I obviously lived
with my friends at Kansas City. Say they're going to
build a giant palace, a whole shopping center thing just
across the Kansas City on the Kansas City side of
Kansas That's where they're gonna end up next.

Speaker 12 (37:39):
The NBA has attempted to take a page out of
the NHL's handbook by changing the All Star Game to
a USA versus the World format. Do you think this
will succeed in drawing more viewers?

Speaker 4 (37:48):
No, And the NBA knows this as I understand it.
They're going to play the All Star Games during the afternoon.
They've taken it out of prime time so they know
no one is that into this. You know it's not good, Coop.
How do we do you pass?

Speaker 5 (38:00):
That's away?

Speaker 11 (38:00):
All?

Speaker 4 (38:00):
That's away?

Speaker 5 (38:01):
Night one?

Speaker 4 (38:01):
H hi'm al.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
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Speaker 4 (38:16):
It's now time for It's time for Horry Horry Honey
Wait ask Bed Twitter, Send us your questions on Twitter
now and away we go. It's asked Ben.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Your questions are answers for the rest of the hour
Ben and Friends, and with the reading of the questions, we.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Go over to the coop.

Speaker 12 (38:38):
Holdover, all right, we have a question from Lady Sideburns.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
Here.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Hi, Ladysideburns, love your Sideburns.

Speaker 12 (38:45):
Says, don't hide from it. What voice do you use
when talking to babies? Yes, you will demonstrate.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
I did the baby Lorena.

Speaker 13 (38:57):
Oh my gosh, No, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Come on, what do you use your normal?

Speaker 12 (39:04):
Boys?

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Everyone talks different to little kids.

Speaker 13 (39:06):
Your little baby, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Oh yeah, that's that's that's that'll that'll work.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Yeah all right, Uh no, there's a joke there, but
I will not use it. I'll go ahead there.

Speaker 12 (39:16):
Cool, please, I don't talk to babies.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Oh come on, such a party pooper.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
I don't when does baby talk? Babies are great?

Speaker 12 (39:26):
It's probably similar to no, cat babies.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Are great as long as you're not your babies and
you don't have to clean up after them.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
But if there are other people's babies and you.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Get like they're they're you know, Harley, they haven't been
exposed to the evil things of the world.

Speaker 12 (39:38):
Yeah, sure, I'd probably talk to my cats and in
that same type of voice, though all right, what is next?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Just ask Ben your question? Good question, Lady Cyberns, what
is next?

Speaker 12 (39:48):
All right?

Speaker 11 (39:48):
Uh?

Speaker 12 (39:49):
Ferg Dog would like to know. Hi, Fergie, do you
want a driverless car?

Speaker 4 (39:55):
No? I do not want to drive.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
If I die driving a car, I want to be
the one hind the wheel making those decisions. I do
not want someone else making those decisions for me. I
don't because, knowing my luck, I'll be driving the car
and then somehow the global satellite system will die and
the car will stop working.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
And yeah, so Lorraina, I.

Speaker 13 (40:15):
Like the idea of having the options, so like on
long drives when it's a straight away and I can
just put my car and drive itself mode. But like,
for the most part, No, I do want to be
in control.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Yes, all right, koboloo.

Speaker 12 (40:27):
Uh, I would like it, but not where we're at now.
I feel like we it have to be further into
the future when it's been perfected. But you know, if
I could take a nap all of my drive somewhere,
that'd be great.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Yeah. I mean that part is obviously attractive. You know,
it'd saved me.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
I got a long trip in where I live pretty
far away from the studio, so it would help me
out in that department.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
What is next? What do we have here?

Speaker 5 (40:51):
Where are we at all?

Speaker 10 (40:51):
Right?

Speaker 12 (40:51):
Mike the leprechaun him Mike, you would like to know,
given that you have a difficult work schedule, when do
you typically eat dinner?

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, I try to eat normally around four o'clock is
when I that's four to five, sometimes five to six,
but usually that's the sweet spot because where I live
in LA, that's when the East Coast Games starts, so
I like to have the game on in the background
while I've eaten my supper, as they say, So that's
usually when I eat.

Speaker 12 (41:18):
What about you, Lorraina, I'm a very sporadic eater.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
I usually eat more. I'm more of a You're more
of a grazer.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
You eat a little bit here, you like a rabbit,
but you eat a little bit here, a little bit there.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (41:28):
But I'll eat like when I get off work in
the morning, before I go to bed, and then sometimes
I'll be got midday and then before work. I don't know, okay,
and they're all different.

Speaker 12 (41:37):
Yeah, it's different for me too, but it's usually in
the like eight thirty nine area late.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Yeah, I eat the same in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
I was told by this guy, Biff Elliott, don't eat
three hours before you go to bed.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
I've never I always try to take three hours up. Next,
what do we have?

Speaker 12 (41:53):
What do we have for donkey? Sausage? Wants to know.
Will you start collecting pennies? Now?

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Listen, the penny is I The penny will live on
and it'll become more famous now that the government has
stopped printing pennies. I'm fine, benny versus the penny will
continue and it'll have nostalgia. Now it's a nostalgic show,
which means it's more valuable to show.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Here it is. He's flipped right there.
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