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November 24, 2025 49 mins

Big Ben talks about Matthew Stafford and the Rams lighting up Baker Mayfield and the Buccaneers, Daniel Jones and the Colts falling to Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, Maller to the Third Degree, Insta-Advice Line, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, the Pirate Ship not exactly sailing smoothly for a
team that early on people were hyping up the Buccaneers.
Welcome in the beginning of another week of the Ben
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begin the week, we start with the Sunday Night NFL

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game at so Far in the Hood in Inglewood and
up to No Good. Yeah, there a final game of
the Sunday portion. There's only one lonely Monday night game left,
but the last game on Sunday. There as Baker Mayfield
in Theory leading the Tampa Bay Football team the Pirate

(02:31):
Ship into the harbors in Soco. There a four round
heavyweight matchup against Matthew Stafford and the La ri I Ams.
You can ram it all day, you can ram it
all night. An Island game on in b SE Island
game they had Mike Tariko and Chris Coylesworth calling the game.

(02:52):
More on that in a minute. But I don't know
if you watched it or not, if you were checking
this thing out, not much of a game. Game was
o v we are at halftime. We watched so you
would not have to. And what did we see. Well,
we saw Devonte Adams catch not one, but two of

(03:12):
Matthew Stafford's not one, not two, three touchdown passes for
Matthew Stafford and the La Rams jump out early and
never look back. That's called a boat race, kids. Thirty
one point first half and for Tampa was turned.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Out the last.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
The parties over as the Rams move into the Presidential Suite.
Thank you so much to the Dallas Cowboys for helping
out beating up the pathetically overrated Philadelphia Eagles thirty four
to seven the final. As the Rams get to win,
the Buccaneers go down extended garbage time. Game was over

(03:56):
at halftime. There and the better story in the losing
locker room of consternation on the Tampa Bay side of
things in this one, rubbing salt into the wound on
the final play of the first half, Tampa getting their
bell wrong, Baker Mayfield trying to make something happen, and
he got dinged up right before halftime there, as the

(04:20):
second half coming to an end, Baker Mayfield decided to
launch the Hail Mary and it did not did not work.
It did not have enough velocity to get it done. However,
what he did have was a shoulder that started barking
earth just like there was barking sound of it actually

(04:41):
barking there. And so Mayfield launching the hail Mary. His
shoulder did not appreciate the Hail Mary there, and Baker
Mayfield kneeling in agony, the agony of defeat as he
was holding his left shoulder. And then at halftime the
Buccaneers the game was over anyway, and they shut her down.

(05:03):
They shut her down now, and was freaking out, Oh
my god, I can't believe that. Now we don't know
all that much about how bad it is. It might
be fine. There's a chance it's perfectly fine. There's also
a dimension in the multiverse where it's a season ending
injury for Baker Mayfield. Todd Bowles did not seem too
concerned postgame, Todd Bowles telling the media that as of

(05:24):
right now, it's just a shoulder sprain for Baker Mayfield,
who at one point was the darling in the MVP
race in the NFC. Todd Bowles says they having MRII
MRI that'll be coming up later on on Monday. The
Buccaneers making their way back to Florida, a long journey.

(05:44):
They're not traveling though, by prop plane. They're actually going
to take a big jumpbo jet to get back to Florida.
So there is that now, Todd Bowles being bashed the
Buccaneer coach as why would you even bother? Why would
you put Baker Mayfield that situation? Oh my god, that's
that's coaching incompetence by Todd Bowles. Blaming Todd Bowles, what's

(06:07):
wrong with you? And all that? All right, so let
us discuss the question on this one, right, Does Todd
Bowles deserve to be ripped? Does he deserve to be ripped?
A part here for Baker Mayfield, the Hail Mary at
halftime which led to some kind of shoulder injury. How
bad it is, we don't know yet. So on this one,

(06:29):
I've got Knickerbocker's brand ambassador and Jane Austen and we
will combine all of these things together and we are
going to make many brisket sliders, which they may or
may not have had at Sofi Stadium those many brisket sliders.
So a to answer the question, does Todd Bowles deserve

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to be ripped? This whole train of thought is weak
with a capitol W. That's not w E E k
w e A k week is what it is here.
It's cheap heat is what it is, Todd Bowles. There's
things you can rip Todd Bowles about this particular play.
I would not put that high up there. You cannot

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coach scared, cannot do it, cannot do it, can't play scared,
can't play scared. And that's that's football. We're not doing
some kind of dance class or something along those lines.
So like when I see oh my god, gam no,
not listen. Baker plays one way. It's the beauty of
Baker Mayfee. He plays one way. He's like Rambo out
there playing quarterback for the Buccaneers. Good, bad, or indifferent.

(07:38):
That's how he plays, full tilt. That's it. And so
the idea is, no, no, we're just gonna take a
knee and go on at halftime. That's not That's not
who the Buccaneers are with Baker Mayfield. They shouldn't play
that way with US's just call it off, Nana. I
disagree with that mindset here and the reason Tampa's got

(07:58):
a pulse and they don't have much of one at
the point. They've hit the schneide as we like to say,
but you look at it, Tampa Bay. The reason that
they were thought of the way they were early in
the season was because they scratching claw. That's how they play.
And the bigger issue is at this moment they appear
to be circling the drain, they being the Buccaneers. At

(08:20):
this moment, they've lost four of their last five. Tampa
I didn't play in the NFL. I don't think that's good.
And getting currently in a position where if Carolina is
able to pull an upset on the Monday night game
and the Niners are certainly beatable. They have a no
name defense. It's not the invincible forty nine ers of
years ago. So it's not out of the realm of

(08:42):
possibility that Carolina wins that game. And if that happens,
then Carolina plays leap frog and the Buccaneers go free falling,
free falling. So there you go. Of all teams, Carolina
belught now bad at the Bucks. They're allowing Carolina to
climb up there, and Tampa might be left holding the

(09:02):
bag at this particular point wild And so the thing
about that the indictment is not because of the Hail Mary. Though.
It's not because of the Hail Mary. It's the trajectory
of the Bucks season right now got off to a
good start. And as the iconic the late great New
York Knickerbocker legend Michael Ray Richardson once said, the ship

(09:27):
be sinking, and for Tampa Bay, the ship be sinking
at this particular point. And Todd Bowles is the captain
of the SS Buccaneer, and the SS Buccaneer is going
down to the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. It's a
shipwreck site at this particular point, and there's water pouring
through every porthole. For the Buccaneers here, the offense has

(09:50):
been sporadic. The defense appears to be worn down and
don't have enough depth, so they're tired the urgency. While
there is still some urgency there, overall things are flatlining
for the Buccaneers. And the hell Mary issue that gets

(10:12):
brought up there, it's just the direction of things that's
the issue there. For the Buccaneers Tampa based problem is
not the risk or they won the Super Bowl. No
risk at no biscuit for the Tom Brady at that
particular point, and a different coaching staff for different head
coach in Bruce arians here. But the regression that's the problem.

(10:33):
Todd Bowles better plug the holes fast because the ship,
as we said, be sinking in Tampa. And that's a team.
There's only one team that's going to get into the
playoffs you would think out of that division. So if
Tampa continues to lose, Carolina's got a shot to get
in there. Now, turning the page on the Rams side,

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we'd like to circle back. Now, let's circle back to
a conversation we've had in previous episodes of the show.
As the Rams blow the doors off the Buccaneers in
this Sunday night game, came over at halftime, and the
question must be asked, what do your eyes tell you

(11:14):
about the Matthew Stafford ENVP campaign for the Rams after
this latest masterpiece by Matthew Stafford. So, Stafford, I've pointed
this out in previous editions of the show that I
was not completely on the Matthew Stafford MVP campaign that

(11:37):
was critical. I didn't want to be a prisoner of
the moment and all that stuff. But Stafford just walked
into the MVP arcade and he's got full control of
the joystick at this particular point. Matthew Stafford and that
Sunday night beat down of Tampa Bay that was an

(11:57):
info mercial, is what that was. For the Matthew Stafford
marching and Child of Society for the Most Valuable Player award.
That was it. It was an island game. You're playing
Tampa at the time you played him. They're a playoff
team themselves. You're at home, and what did you do? Well,
you went out there and slice them up, is what

(12:18):
you did. Here is a Sean McVeigh celebrating slap slater
slaughter all over his quarterback take.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
As I think it feels like the game's slowing down.
I feel like he's in total command. I think he's
got a lot of trust in the teammates that he's
playing with, and you know, there's a true ownership and
it's I think he's just totally and completely present and
he's really just enjoying the opportunity to compete week in
and week out. You know, even just when he does
the breakdown with the team. He loves being a part
of this team. You can feel that he instills a

(12:47):
belief every time that we go out on the field.
We feel like good things are going to happen because
he's leading the way, and so I think he's getting
more and more comfortable with just the skilled players. You
could really see. I thought that was on display tonight.
But I'm really happy for him. Is a cool stat
that artist gaming, you know, twenty seven touchdowns in a
row without an interception, tying Tom. But he's playing great
and we'll just continue to stay in the moment. But

(13:08):
I'm loving every second of this.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
All right, that was a lot of fluff, is what
that was by Sean McVay. How long was that? That
was pretty long? Forty three second? Forty three seconds? My god,
did he mention Stafford's name? I don't think he mentioned
his name at all. I think he just he's just
kind of ramble. He could have been talking about me.
I could have bet Ben Maler the Matthews Stafford. Forget
about him, let's go to Sean mean. But here's McVeigh

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on quarterback Ben Maller. Take a listen.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
I think it feels like the game's slowing down. I
feel like he's in total command. I think he's got
a lot of trust in the teammates that he's playing with,
and you know, there's a true ownership and it's I
think he's just totally and completely present, and he's really
just enjoying.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
The opportunity to compete week in and week out.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
You know, even just when he does the breakdown with
the team, he loves being a part of this team.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
You can feel that.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, he instills a belief every time that we go
out on the field. We feel like good things are
gonna happened because he's leading the way. And so I
think he's getting more and more comfortable with just the
skilled players. You could really see. I thought that was
on display tonight. But I'm really happy for him. As
a cool stat that artist gave me, you know, twenty
seven touchdowns in a row without an interception, tyme, Tom.
But he's playing great, and we'll just continue to stay

(14:16):
in the moment. But I'm loving every second of this.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
All right, there you go? All right, My god, that
was that was a lot. There's a lot of fluff there,
a lot a lot of fluff. From Sean McVay. Here's
Matthew Stafford, and here is Stafford who's was asked about
the way he's playing right now. Let's I'm sure he
said he sucks. Yes, No, I'm not trying to label it.
I just know him having fun.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
Okay, you know, my body feels pretty good, great at
the moment. Like I said earlier, the guys up front
are doing a hell of a job with keeping me clean.
Shawn's got great game plans weekend and week out for
us to you know, do what we need to do
to be successful on our side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
And it's it's been a lot of fun. Okay, congratulations.
You see brevity. He used brevity unlike Sean McVay. So
back to the point. So this was an infomercial for
the MVP campaign of Matthew Stafford. It just just was
the national spotlight, everyone watching and all that. So I

(15:12):
am now ready to go down to the train station
and I'd like to buy a ticket and I want
to be on the hype train because I'm there now
at that game. Now he's in the lead, he's in
the pole position. And Stafford, who used to throw interceptions
like he was a brand ambassador for turnovers r US
and now all of a sudden, that's a spinoff of

(15:34):
poison us. It was called turnovers r US. It didn't
really do that well, I don't know why. And now
he is a smooth operator, all of a sudden, in
the twenty seven consecutive touchdowns without an interception, three hundred
and eight straight passes for Stafford without an interception, just
the eighth time that has happened in this century that

(15:58):
a quarterback has done what Stafford is now done for
the Rams and Aaron Rodgers that's like Rogers back in
Green Bay back in the day, or as McVeigh mentioned,
Tom Brady level discipline for Matthew Stafford, a guy that
we thought would be hurt by week five. He didn't
even practice and play in the exhibition, in the preseason games,

(16:19):
he was dinged up and all that. And here we
are Stafford looking relatively spry, moving around as well as
you can expect someone with his age and his back
and all that stuff, seeing the field. And Devonte Adams,
who looked like he was done skis with the Raiders
and the Jets last year, all of a sudden, now
lighting it up on a weekly basis for the La

(16:40):
Rams and we'll see you with the rest of the
season provides for the Rams. At this point, we do
the show today. We have to worry about the show
right now. So at this point, everyone else stumbling. I
think there's no one. Who else? Who is number two?
Drake May? I forget about that Colts lost to Kansas City.

(17:00):
They blew a game. They had eleven point lead in
the fourth quarter, So that's that's no good. Who else
is there? I don't know. There's no one else at
this point, there's no one. It's Matthew Stafford. If he
plays a couple more games like this in a row.
We are talking about a Secretariat type breakaway in the
MVP race as we are coming up to Thanksgiving, and

(17:22):
he certainly it's not over yet, but he's in the
pole position at this moment. Here another month or more.
This was the Eureka game for Matthew Stafford, the moment
where everything firmly clicked in for everyone to see as
Stafford has mastered what McVeigh wants him to master. Considering

(17:46):
that this was not a guarantee, Stafford went out and
was whined and dined by Tom Brady they went to Montana.
Brady begged them, he said, please come save the Raiders
and Stafford said, ah, I'm good. And then the Pittsburgh
Steevels wanted Matthew Stafford and he chatted with him and
we want you to come to pittsbaham good, and he
goes back to LA And now I'll look at this
all right now, the last word to the press box

(18:08):
we go. If you're watching the Sunday Night game, you
noticed that NBC's Chris Collinsworth was feature there. He called
this five hundredth NFL game. Hey, we five hundred NFL games.
As the Rams took down the Buccaneers in the Sunday
Night Game, and Collinsworth brought back the iconic classic collins

(18:31):
Worst slide. He brought it back, the slide returned. Used
to do that with Al Michaels back in the day.
The slide was back. So the question here is the
five hundred We love round numbers. Nobody cares about four
ninety nine, nobody cares about five oh one, but five hundred.
Oh man, we got all horny for five hundred. So
the question, what does the five hundredth NFL TV broadcast

(18:54):
for Chris Collinsworth. What's that say about Collinsworth? So on
this one, it is a It is a reminder that
Collinsworth knows exactly how this game works. I'm not talking
about the game of football. I'm talking about the game
of television. Politics in television, and it's every media business

(19:19):
very political, but TV in particular. And nobody kisses tushy
quite like Chris collins Worth. Let's get it. Bravo to
the as kissing ability of Chris collins Worth. I'm jealous.
And he's not just calling football games. He's working. It's
like he's working at the cracker barrel and he's buttering biscuits.

(19:42):
Is what he's doing down at the cracker barrel, because
that's why he's he's what he does is as good
as anyone else in terms of the as kissing. Nobody
is able to get to that level that Collinsworth is
able to get to. He's built a career as a
paul politician in many ways in the broadcast booth. You

(20:02):
look at it, you take a couple steps back. Collinsworth
played one hundred and seven games for the Cincinnati Bungals,
one hundred and seven games. He's now suited up and
been the lead commentator on five hundred NFL broadcast. Not
to mention the time that when I met Collinsworth years ago,
he was doing the studio show with Bradshaw, Howie Long

(20:23):
and James Brown and those guys that they were doing
the studio show on Fox. Collinsworth was the last person
in there. And then he went back to calling games
on television. But when Collinsworth is out calling a game,
it's it's like he's watching. When you have him in
the booth, it's like he's watching. It's like he's watching

(20:44):
Michael Angelo paint Assistine Chapel while he's calling a game.
He doesn't break down the game per se. Collinsworth has
this ability. He's like he's like Jane Austen in the
fact that he romanticizes it. Right. It's persuasion, is what
it is. It's all The NFL clearly loves it, or
Collinsworth would have been long gone. The slide move that

(21:07):
slide on in that is a signal to the NFL say, hey,
fellas up, I'm still the good soldier. I know how
to play nice slapper slapper slabber. Yes, jeez. The NFL
protects the NFL protects the guys who protect the shield. Now,

(21:27):
there was a point there was a broadcaster long ago.
You don't know who this is, but there was a
guy named Howard coast Sell, real arrogant, sob Howard coat Sell,
and he didn't play nice. He would take shots at
the NFL and he would be very critical, hold them accountable.
And that's a different generation. That's when people expected the
media to attack. Now the fanboys want the media to

(21:51):
wear their knee pads, is what they want. And Collinsworth
is really good at that, right, So he's not someone
who's gonna challenge the coaches and the player and be
overly critical there. It's almost like he's hosting a nice
dinner party when he's doing the games. And so there
you go, Sunday and night. He'll be doing that till
he's what eighty five ninety years old, Just same old

(22:12):
rhetoric and all that he's in mans like he's the
Captain America of butt kissing. That's what he is. And
business is booming, absolutely booming.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
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Speaker 1 (23:01):
Or wherever you get your podcasts. So I lead this
hour big NFL matchup early on Sunday. We'll start in
the City of Fountains, Cansa City, the iconic Arrowhead Stadium,
not far from the landing in Liberty, Missouri, where a

(23:21):
little over a year ago the iconic Malard Meet and
greet took place the majestic home of the Ben Malar
Chicken figures. There in Cansa City, so is Daniel Jones
leading a caravan of colts, the traveling party making their
way there for a matchup in the home of Mahomes

(23:43):
Patrick Mahomes chiefs there at Arrowhead Stadium. So that was
the game out. If you saw it or not, maybe
you missed it. You were out. I don't know what
you're doing. What were you doing? Who knows? Anyway. Patrick
Mahomes threw for a season high three hundred and fifty
two yards, and I'm told that is good rallying the
Chiefs from an eleven point deficit in the fourth quarter.

(24:06):
As the defense making some plays, they're forcing Indianapolis to
go three and out on their final four possessions, final
four possessions, three and out. That's not good. Harrison Bucker
the game winning field goal as time ran out, twenty
seven yards to give Kansas City to win. Of course,

(24:27):
time running out because of the way the games are
decided here in the overtime, but Kansas City wins twenty
three to twenty in a game that could have done
a lot of damage to the Chiefs had they not
won it. But they come back and they win the game.
They're late. The better story, though, is in the losing
locker room, as quarterback Daniel Jones was zonked zongked late

(24:51):
in this game for Indianapolis the fourth quarter and overtime,
and that is a good jumping off point. So let
us discuss a question, how is that Daniel Jones reputation rehab,
the Daniel Jones reputation rehab tour going for the Colts.

(25:12):
That's the question, all right. So on this one, I've
got Feline, Delaware River and Geiger Counter and we will
combine all of these things together and we are going
to make some nice body spray is what we're gonna make,
all right. So the first thought I have, number one,

(25:36):
Number one is that was a belly whopper of a
performance for Daniel Jones late in this game. You have
to finish the game. You finished the game, and he
did a face plan, a biblical face plant in this
game late in it for Danny Dimes. Here is Daniel

(25:58):
Jones made the hour pointing out then much going on
there late in the game. Didn't execute in some key situations.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Yeah, I mean, got to do a better job I
think overall and our execution.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
And certainly are their job and handling all that stuff.
So tough, yeah, tough to have a stretch like that
towards the end of the game.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Are are mirror mirror on the wall? Who's the first
of them?

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Are are?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Are?

Speaker 3 (26:29):
All?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Right? Here is Shane Steichen, the head coach of the Colts.
The Colts as mentioned the final four, the final four possession,
three and out, three and out, three and out, three
and out. How'd that go? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (26:41):
I mean I thought the defense did a great job
getting the takeaways. You know, we get a backed up situation.
We got to get ourselves out of that situation. That's
a three and out there, and then we had another
three and out and then we had another three and out.
So anytime you have three and out so you're not
moving them efficiently, it's going to be hard for any
one to win football games.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
And we got to be better. I gotta be better. Okay,
went in doubt. I got to better. We got to
be better. Just throw that out at the end. There
you go. You're good. So back to the point at hand.
The question on the table for the esteem panel here,
how is the Daniel Jones reputation rehab toward going for
the Colts. Well, we mentioned this was a major setback here.
The Colts go reverse Uno card and Jones turns back

(27:20):
the clock and it's like he's back playing in Jersey
for the gi Hey and Ts suck, Suck, Suck. The
Giants three completions in crunch time three. Now Daniel Jones
based on malarmath. He closed the game out in the
fourth quarter and overtime, completing thirty three point three percent

(27:44):
of his passes. That's half the sign of the devil
in the fourth quarter and overtime there for Daniel Jones.
And he's the guy. Remember, he's the guy looking for
the big payday. The Colts have decided that they're going
for it. They traded some scratcher tickets away to the
Jets to get their hands on sauce Gardener, and by

(28:06):
doing that, they have committed themselves to Daniel Jones. They've said, hey,
we want you, We're gonna sign you to a contract,
We're going to keep you. And Jones is looking for
a massive payday. So he's got a lot of leverage
you would assume going into this. However, in these high
leverage moments for the Colts quarterback in this game, he

(28:27):
looked like a feline. Now what kind of feline did
he look like? Did he look like a rag doll?

Speaker 3 (28:32):
No?

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Did he look like a Persian No, he did not
look like a Persian cat. Did he look like a sphinx? No?
He played like a scaredy cat. He played like a
scaredy cat at the end of this game. Scaredy cat,
scaredy cat, DNA, That's what it was, all right. Behind
throwing behind receivers, generally they don't catch the passes when
you throw behind him. You're being so critical. Why would

(28:55):
you be so critical? That's just my experience. I know,
I'm a shock jock. Usually if you'll behind receivers, they
don't catch the passes. Why would you say that? Okay? Anyway,
late on throws also problematic. Oh why are you being
so mean? Yeah, nearly picked off multiple times in the
fourth quarter and overtime. Check that box. And as we mentioned,

(29:18):
the four straight three and outs to close the game.
That gets your that gets your resume updated. You might
want to go to one of the websites there and
see if you can find some work. My god, it
was not good, not good at all. So on the
Malard scale of panic, the top twol for determining how

(29:39):
bad a situation is the Malar scale of panic one
to ten, with ten being oh my god, oh my god.
This is an eight point oh eight point zero. On
the Daniel Jones Mallard scale of panic, for Indianapolis. And

(29:59):
here's why this is electric chair adjacent is what it's
electric chair adjacent. And so when you look at it,
Daniel Jones, this is his reputation, rehab tour and all that.
And it's off the road. Now, it's not fully in
the ditch, but it's halfway in the ditch, and you're

(30:20):
out of gas and you've got a lot of problems.
And so the Colts fans were hoping they'd get another
edition of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, and
they just got the Temple of Doom part is what.
They got a lot of doom there and also Danny
Dimes returning the return of Danny Dimes in this game.
The whole idea this season is to see if you

(30:45):
can commit long term. Are you just going to sign
this guy to a two year contract again him a
four year contract? What's it going to be? And this
was at best, if you're positive, this was just a setback,
a small setback, that's it. At worst, something much worse
than just a small setback for Daniel Jones. Here, if

(31:08):
you're a so called franchise guy, shrinks up in every
pressure situation, right, No bueno? That is a noe bueno situation.
Daniel Jones was hesitant and at the end of the game,
and also it just seemed like he was rattled by
the Chiefs defense, shrinking under pressure, which is generally what

(31:30):
you're not looking for here. That was Giants era Daniel Jones,
although to be fair, there were very many games where
he didn't even play well enough to get to pressure
situations where the games were over by the time you
would get to a fourth quarter where the game is
close situation. And so the Giants they got rid of
Daniel Jones. The Colts picked him up now after he

(31:50):
stopped in Minnesota, and at this moment, the Colts say,
is the a team more of a contender or a pretender? Well,
the way they finished the game, you'd have to put
them in the pretender category. It's the only fair thing
to do. If you disappear in crunch time and I've
got news you're not the guy. You can't beat the

(32:12):
guy if you're gonna play like that at the end
of the game. And that's exactly what happened on this day.
And so the Colts they're gonna have some decisions. There's
still obviously a couple of games to go here, a
few games left in the regular season. But that was
not not a great afternoon. And so reputation rehab, reputation relapse.

(32:32):
It's a spinoff show, Reputation Relapse. You can go with
that if you would like. All right now, page two
on the cansa City side of things. And it was
not a smooth game for the Chiefs, a game that
had a lot on the line for Kansas City considering
that they've dug themselves a massive hole. Head coach Andy

(32:55):
Reid and his team able to come back. Andy Reid
singing the p of his team postgame, he said, that's
the part quote I appreciate as a coach the most
is the attitude. Andy Reid said, Well, he put down
his cheeseburger to talk to the media. He said, it's
a compliment to the players, coaches, and the supporting people

(33:16):
from the building. No one has been hanging their head
and oh no, and blah blah blah blah blah. All right,
So the question, all right, Andy Reid celebrating the ability
of his Chiefs team not to give up. So should
Andy Reid's Chiefs be celebrated for resiliency or ripped for

(33:37):
being in the hole. All right, Now, you celebrate the
fact that they've come back and won a few of
these games, or do you goof on them because of
the situation they find themselves in. So I would say,
let's not crown anyone. If you want to crown him,
crown his ass. But I'm not going to crown anyone.
The Chiefs weren't down to eleven at Arrowhead to day

(34:00):
Daniel Jones in the fourth quarter, down by eleven to
Daniel Jones, Hello, if you need to rally to save
your tukas, is that great? I don't know about that.
It's certainly storm clouds. It's certainly storm clouds. And the
first three quarters of this particular game, if you break

(34:24):
it down, the first three quarters, the Chiefs looked like
they were running uphill, but they were not just running uphill.
They were running on a bank of mud, a mud
bank right on the Delaware River for some reason, and
that is where they rub the baseballs. The mud they
rub on the baseballs comes from the mud banks of
the Delaware River. But that's essentially what they were doing

(34:44):
in this particular game. A lot of penalties, sloppy football execution,
was bad. All that stuff, no rhyme, no reason, none
of that stuff. And it's the same problem that has
been bird dogging the Chiefs all a season long. We've
seen it all year. It has not been a silky

(35:06):
road for Kansas City. Instead, it has been a sandpaper
road at this particular point. A lot of finger biting,
hair pulling, the sweaty palms, all of those things. And
they have become the cardiac kids. They've become the cardiac
kids here and not in the fun way, not in
the fun way. No. And then you add Chris Jones.

(35:29):
But wait, there's more. You add Chris Jones, the man
that quit against Jacksonville, allowing the Jaguars to score the
game winning touchdown, a game that will likely hurt the
Chiefs down The line is Jacksonville won in Arizona, so
the Jaguars have a record that will put them in
playoff contention in Kansas City is also trying to get
one of those spots. So it's a mess in that regard. Anyway.

(35:52):
The point is Chris Jones postgame said, quote, I've got
to show up the rest of these games. You know
what that is? That is a dead give it dead
give it. He's admitting Chris Jones, defensive star of Kansas City,
that he was lolligagging. He's a lolligagger, that's what he is. Lolligagger. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Yeah.

(36:14):
So it's say I've been on cruise control. When you say, hey,
I've got to show up the rest of the games,
that would mean you haven't shown up in a few
of the games. Therefore you have to show up in
the rest of the games because you haven't shown up.
You see the point. So he's been cruising along, cruising
for a bruising there. Here's the problem though. Now here's

(36:34):
the problem the Chiefs. They generally haven't started playing this
season until someone slaps them around a little bit and
then they wake up. Is that really resiliency or a
lack of urgency at the beginning of these games? And
Mahomes he rescued him a bit here he's he's still

(36:58):
not where he had been. Mahomes, and it's like a
weekly rescue plan. Who you gonna call Mahomes, that's what
you're gonna call. And you talk about living on borrowed time.
And Kansas City there you escaped an escape room. Good
luck on that. As we move forward, now turning the page,
we go to Green Bay, Lommafield, the Frozen Tundra as

(37:24):
the Minnesota football team. They showed up kind of. They
got their bell rung by the team from Wisconsin. So
Minnesota has now lost not one, not two, not three,
not four, not five, not six? How about seven? Seven
games lost this season? Does that sound like a lot. Well,

(37:44):
that's more than twice as many, more than twice as
many as the Minnesota Vikings suffered last year. And on
Sunday Sunday Sunday against the Green Bay Packers, the Vikings
ended up getting mollywopped by a team that had their
own issues. The Green Bay Packers had some issues, they're

(38:05):
underwhelming all season with Jordan Love and JJ McCarthy, though,
said hey, you might be underwhelming, but you've got nothing
on me, nothing at all on me. McCarthy attempted nineteen passes,
twelve of them were completed, for eighty seven yards. A

(38:27):
professional quarterback that sat out a season, JJ McCarthy had
eighty seven yards passing two interceptions. He got sacked not once,
not twice, not three times, not four times, how about
five times? Five sacks for jj McCarthy. Remember, sacks are
mostly a quarterback stat, mostly a quarterback stat that tells me,

(38:48):
you don't know what you're doing now. As such, get
to the point please. So you had the Vikings unable
to move the ball consistently as you might imagine, get
the ball to their playmakers, because if you can't complete
passes for more than eighty seven yards, chances are none
of your receivers are going for one hundred yards because
you didn't have more than any seven Ye had any
seven yards passing Jajon McCarthy, So that includes the playmakers.

(39:12):
One of the all time greats of this generation, Justin
Jefferson of the Minnesota football team, who acknowledged postgame he
acknowledged the frustrations of the losing ways of the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Tale is it's frustrating. It's frustrating to lose, you know,
it's frustrating to you know, to be up here and
say the same things every single weekend expecting for something
to change the following the weekend. You know, we're still
in the same spot.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
So we just got.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
To figure it out and see the things that we
need to change and get better.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Okay, Jefferson had four catches for forty eight yards. That's it.
So the question here Vikings receiver Justin Jefferson just heard
the SoundBite there saying he's frustrated they lose the same
things they say every single week and they keep losing
expecting things to change. How do you interpret the meaning

(40:06):
of this? So this isn't just venting, this venting, this
is not just venting here, this is going to the hospital.
And it's code read. It sounded if you listen close
to like McCarthy is causing Justin Jefferson to think that
the Viking franchise is insane, because isn't that insanity the

(40:30):
textbook Einstein insanity. The line is that, well, you do
the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome,
kind of like the Minnesota Vikings with JJ McCarthy. They
keep sending him out there. It's like Justin Jefferson's like,
this is he's implying it's insane. What's going on here
that the guy's not getting any better? So how do
you interpret the meaning of what Justin Jefferson had to say? Well,

(40:53):
it's pretty clear, as we said, it's code read. It's like, hey, listen,
this is insane. We're doing the same thing every game
and nothing's changing here. And Jefferson is telegraphing the frustration
because it's rinse and repeat every week, rinse and repeat,
and that's how it goes. It's NFL cycle of failure,

(41:15):
the cycle of failure. And he said in himself, this
is every single week, every single expecting things to change.
And that tells you everything. It's not the effort for
the Minnesota Vikings. It's not the play calling. It's the quarterback, dummy,
it's the quarterback. McCarthy doesn't have to worry about being

(41:36):
the goat. He's the worn. Now what is the worn?
What does that mean? Wr And that is the worst
of right now? Worn, that's a spin off not to go,
not to go the worn, the worst of right now.
McCarthy has been about his intimidating as a wet sponge

(41:58):
when he's been playing quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings. He
averaged four point six yards per pass attempt in this
particular game against the Packers. That is check down, Charlie.
That's checkdown purgatory, is what that is for the Minnesota
Vikings in this particular game. And wait, there's more. Had
a couple of picks for those are at the end
of the game. For the Vikings, one fumble, although it

(42:21):
was recovered. Remember of fumbles a fifty to fifty raffle ball.
Every time you fumble, both teams have a fifty to
fifty chance of recovering said fumble. Very little pulse for
the Vikings offense, they're the offense was essentially in a
body bag. Body bag. Body bag is what they were
in in this game. And this is the worst case

(42:44):
scenario for the Purple People leaders. The red shirt a
player and that's what this was. He was hurt, but
he got all the mental reps. JJ McCarthy and all
you geniuses. Every NFL draft we have the same conversation,
do you play the do you not play the guy?
And everyone's oh, you got to rest the player, You
got to leave him on the sidelines, let him learn

(43:05):
by osmosis. Okay, well Macarthy did that. He didn't play.
He was hurt. He went through training camp and then
the rest of the year he just kind of soaked
everything in and how's that working out? How is that
working out? Red shirt rookie season? So he a red
shirt rookie, second year player, and he's not growing. It

(43:28):
is getting pretty bad, pretty bad. You drafted a guy
you thought he played a lot at Michigan, although he
didn't have that many reps throwing the football, But you
look at him, it's like you drafted him, you developed him.
He developed a player. He's got the you get the
Geiger counter out. The radiation is off the boards here.

(43:50):
He can't even get close to JJ McCarthy's been so bad,
and you're wasting a prime year of Justin Jefferson's career.
Congratulations on that. Jefferson got the bag. What's in the bag.
You got a lot of money, money, money, mighty good frames,
good player, and normally it doesn't matter who the quarterback is.
If you have a good playmaker, you're going to get stats. Somehow,

(44:14):
JJ McCarthy is so bad. How bad is he? He's
so bad that Jefferson's not even getting the stats. He
usually gets two touchdowns all year, if my math is correct,
for Justin Jefferson two and so you can lead the
league in some categories, but the touchdowns are just not there.
And this is a guy that has led the NFL

(44:36):
in so many categories as a receiver, and this year
it's just something side to us. I wonder what that
could be. I wonder what that could be. So it's
a quagmire, is what it is. The Vikings offense is
playing in quicksand at this particular point. And every week,
as Justin Jefferson pointed out, every week they promise change,

(44:57):
although they don't change the quarterback. They keep saying with
the quarterback out there. And so it's kind of like
the coaching staff is painting the windows while the burning
building is burn, burn, burn, burn burn. The building they're
painting is on fire. That's what's going on. Their losses
are piling up, and they're poisoning the locker room with

(45:20):
one incomplete JJ McCarthy pass at a time.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
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Speaker 1 (45:28):
All right, I'm excited to the third degree. This is
one big Ben gets great. All right, go ahead there, Koobo.

Speaker 9 (45:37):
So the New England Patriots have played one more game
than the Denver Broncos, and therefore they have one more wins.
So right now they have the number one seed in
the AFC. Looking ahead at the schedule game, who do
you like for that number one seed in first round, by.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Well, it should be the Patriots based on the fact
that they're playing nothing but Tomato Cans. Although the Broncos
are playing Tomato cans mostly other than the divisional games
they still have to play, so you look at the division.
The Bills aren't that great this year. If you look
at the rest of the schedule for the New England Patriots,
and there are some injuries. Now they lost a couple

(46:11):
offensive linemens, so that is a factor, but that's part
of football and all that. I I don't see more
than maybe one more loss for the for the Patriots
the rest of the year in the regular season next.

Speaker 9 (46:22):
So, Chris Paul announced that this will be his final season.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
In the NBA. Oh, I'm so sad. Yes, he's sure
to be.

Speaker 9 (46:28):
A first ballot Hall of Famer, but Ben, where do
you have him on Ben's big board of all time
point guards?

Speaker 1 (46:34):
He was a wonderful regular season player who often disappeared
in big moments and big big spots. And so they
are lob City Clippers. He did. He did have the
weight of having Doc Rivers as as coach, but he's
not the great like John Stockton's the greatest. Like I
watched Stockton Alove was amazing. So there it is malardly

(46:54):
third degree? How did we do coop to pass? That
is they win but one the game. I'm belave it
at the buzzer buzzer beating.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
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Speaker 1 (47:19):
Hey you sports figure, guy or girl?

Speaker 9 (47:22):
Who get here?

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Were you talking to songs?

Speaker 9 (47:24):
Here?

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Some instant advice? Hold that thought. No one's paid attention
to me for ten whole seconds, and if you don't
like it, school get away we go. It's the instant
Advice line on Screened Radio. Who are in sports needs
or advice could be a player, a prominent coach, or
media member, former athlete. Well this week is rather obvious.

(47:45):
Guy making thirty seven and a half million dollars a
year and he sucks at his job and he's now
giving the bird to fans that are criticizing him, even
though his coach doesn't have the balls to criticize him.
That would be Pete Carroll. We're talking about Geno Smith.
Any advice to Gino's Smith. If you're live on the
air when you hear my voice at eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox, Hello, line one. Your advice to

(48:05):
Gino Smith Line one, Good morning time.

Speaker 9 (48:08):
You want to sell sandwiches?

Speaker 1 (48:09):
His name sound like a sandwich, that is true? Or pizza.
Possibly there's a pizza place. Hello, You're next advice to
Gino Smith. Hello, you're on the air, over under on
Cowboy Callers. Tonight is ten and bet the Morgar's on
the over Okay, there you go. We miss cowboy Dan.
Though he didn't call anymore, hopefully he's still around. Hello.
Your next advice to Gino Smith call.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Her turn that buzz off with your blood.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
On it, Ben, I'll pay. Yes, I was making some
chicken shorm of the day and I almost cut my
thumb off. Hello, you're on the air. Yeah, didn't. I
got a buzzsaw thing chicken sharma buzzing a line six. Hello,
line six, you're on the air Air and Rogers known
as dig Breast. All right, Hey, Lucky Tony's back. Lucky

(48:53):
Tony's back line number one. Hello, line one, you need
to get some okay, all right, calm down, calm down,
Calm down, line your next line three?

Speaker 7 (49:05):
Hello, yeah, man, this problem can only be alleviated by
soaking up prebees and going to the Rams game and
then blathering about it for an hour instead of talking
about thrilling cowboy.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
All right, calm down, please, It was much more important
me going to that game. Hello, you're on the air.
Line five, go you know, like trash.

Speaker 7 (49:26):
It's like st as a plan.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Oh yeah, not good for you, sorry, Sean the hood guy.
Line six, you're on the air. Hello, yeah, he needs
to retake. Okay, thank you. One more hurry up. Pick
at last one, last one hind three line three year
elier goal. We missed it. We missed it because a
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