November 16, 2023 • 38 mins
Ben Maller talks about Deshaun Watson needing shoulder surgery and being ruled out for the rest of the season, if Watson could have played through the injury, the lesson from the Watson era in Cleveland, and more!
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It's our number one back in the audio dojo, slaving
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terrestrial radio. So here in hour one, the big story
from the NFL. What are your initial thoughts on the
Browns losing Deshaun Watson? Also, could Watson have played through
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the shoulder injury? He did play very well in the
second half of the game in Baltimore, Wall injured And
what is the lesson from the Deshaun Watson era at
this point in Cleveland. We'll talk about all that and
much much more right now here. It is our number one.
Now it turns out the forecast calling for a brown
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Oh they love that, love that.
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There was one guy in particular. You don't know who
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what happened to him, but he wanted to I want
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But football football's more important to us than regular season
pro bouncy ball. So we're gonna go with the football.
And we assume you've heard. By now, we assume you've heard,
but maybe not. Maybe you don't get out much, and
you don't pay attention, and you got stuff going on.
So Deshaun Watson has put the mute button on his season.
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He's pulled the plug on the rest of his twenty
twenty three season. The Browns announcing that Watson, I know
you're disappointed, the creepy quarterback. Yeah, guy is not going
to be playing, but Deshaun Watson. And now the Browns
announcing that Watson is going to undergo season ending surgery.
He's got a problem with his throwing shoulder. The report
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claimed there was an MRI performed and that revealed that
Watson has a displaced fracture of some part of his shoulder.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I'm not a doctor.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I don't know if that is anyway, Watson played the
majority of the game with this injury and played better
than he's ever played as a Cleveland Brown. Got hurt
in the first quarter and had a perfect second half
as quarterback for the Brons. So all you had to
do was break the guy's shoulder, and then all of
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a sudden, you're good to go, right or you're good
to go on that now, Watson told the media that
he was He said he was in quote disbelief over
the injury. That was the quote. The quote, He's in
disbelief over the injury. You tappened again in the first
quarter there of the game against the Ravens. So let
us discuss it. Before we discuss, why don't we play
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some audio. We have some audio. I don't know what
the audio is. I have no idea. Let's find out together.
Here's Deshaun Watson commenting on what a total failure he
is with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
It's very frustrating, but as part of life, what I've
been able to deal with. You know, my twenty eight
years of my life is just another stone that's that's
in the way. And you know I have faith in
myself and my Lord that you know I'm overcoming. So
you know I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be, I'm gonna
be straight, and I'm gonna get to it for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
By the way, Lord is the name of one of
the massage therapists that takes care of him.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I think that's the nickname he gave. The young lady
calls her Lord Lord of the Massage. We have more audio,
I'm told we have more odor.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
All right, let's go the editor who paid a lot
of money here people in edit Fox Sports Radio. They're
making the big bucks. Here's more audio. Yeah, here is
Deshaun Watson take of us.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
All the experts and doctors was the ones that told
me that it was there was no chance.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
So uh now.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I pushed as far as that possibly could to you know,
get back out there and just try to play and
try to push it towards after the season. But I
think the best situation for I guess longevity in my
career is is to be able to get a media surgery.
And that's what all the experts said, So you know,
I gotta I gotta follow their footsteps and go from there.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Follow the science. Uh, Deshaun following the science?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
All right, let us discuss the question what are your
initial thoughts on Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Down for the count done for the year with the
Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So I've got jet Stream, Supermarket, Sweep, and Swifties and
we will combine all of these things together and we
are going to make a full body massage in the
Happy Baby Yoga post because we know DeShawn likes that.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
That'll make him feel better, That'll make him feel really good.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
So a DeShawn said he was in disbelief.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That was the word that he used.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
We are not in disbelief when it comes to Deshaun
Watson on this side of the microphone missing the rest
of the season, because I'll tell you why we've paid attention, right,
we've paid attention. Deshaun Watson had already missed several games
and it was a questionable nature.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Like the famous story was, he was.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Medically cleared by the Cleveland Brown doctors and still went
a wall. Remember that right before the game, I can't
play psych after saying all week he was going to play.
And the jet stream, the jet stream has been heading
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towards the direction of DeShawn finding a way to shut
it down, and it is actually a blessing in disguise.
For clear, let me explain why Watson hasn't been good.
That's the first thing, right, people think Watson's good, He's not.
He's not even a top twenty, top twenty five quarterback
in most key statistical categories since he took over in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
He's just another guy.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
He's a just a Ham and egger at quarterback who's
making a lot of money, a lot more money than
Ham and Egger. So that's the first thing. Secondly, if
you care about likability, the Cleveland Browns instantaneously became much
more likable because they don't have him playing quarterback. So
now we don't have to just hate the Cleveland Browns
because they have the creepy quarterback. Now he's out of
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the picture. He's out getting the massages and here's my
little towel.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
You know. Oh look my twiggingberries popped out.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
He's got all that going on, right, he's got all
that going on, and he just brings us like negative
cloud to Sean Watson, and he will for the rest
of his career. It's impossible to pull for the Browns
with Watson playing quarterback. But he's not playing right now.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Next man up.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
They don't have anybody who's any good. But we'll get
to more of that in a minute. With Watson's sideline,
the Browns move up on the big board of likability.
So that's the point. And even with a bunch of
stiffs playing quarterback. Now, the second part of this, as
we continue to unpack the story out of Cleveland. As
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we unwrap this the story further, the question couldn't Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Have played through the injury.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Now this is where it gets awkward, and this is
where it gets uncomfortable for some people. Now, Watson played
the second half of the game in Baltimore and played
as well or better than he's ever played as a
Cleveland Brown quarterback. He played great in the second half,
and there is no consensus whether or not this has
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to happen where he had to shut it down. Now,
the Browns PR machine, along with Deshaun Watson, fed the
story and we played the audio there that the team
doctors determined that Watson needed immediate surgery to prevent long
term structural damage. Keep in mind, Watson didn't listen to
the Cleveland Brown team doctors when they said he was
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good to go earlier in the year. So why is
he listening now? Can anyone answer that? Because the Browns
doctors cleared him to play in a game and a
couple hours before the game said I'm playing. So then
he didn't trust the science, but now he trusts the science.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So why isn't that what change?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Is it possible that they told him what he wanted
to hear and he's like, all right, I don't play here.
I hate Cleveland, and I only went there because of
the money.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
But if Deshaun Watson was hell bent on play, he's
getting guaranteed money, so he didn't have to play. My
Spidey like senses tell me. If Watson was not getting
guaranteed money, he would have played Supermarket sweep the medical addition,
and gone out to find a doctor that would have said,
you know.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
What, you can play in the rest of the year.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Right, I'll go I'll find this guy in Chicago named Mike,
doc Mike. Or I'll go to Tijuana and find a
doctor there.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I'll go anywhere. I'll go to Columbia, I'll go to Ecuador.
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I'll find a doctor that will say, Okay, you can play,
because there's always one. Right, if you go to enough doctors,
you'll find what you want. Just have to keep going
getting getting different opinions. And if you found a doctor
he wanted to play and the doctor said, well, you
don't have you should play.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
You can play, it's fine, he would have played.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
All right, final thought here on all this and the
last words, So what is the lesson? What is the
lesson in the Deshaun Watson situation? In year two in
the land, so it is a cautionary tale. It is
a cautionary tale. There's a Latin phrase for this caveat emptor,
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which which essentially means buyer beware, buyer beware. Watson has
been at this point a total bust. We do the
show today, as we like to point out, we don't
do the show four years from now or five years
from now. And all we have is what's going on
in this moment. Deshaun Watson is rotting whale flesh with
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flies hovering around and maggots starting to eat the rotting flesh.
That is what Watson is meant. He's not worth the money,
and it's going to have long term ramifications. The Swifties
know what I'm about to say, right, The Swifties know
what I'm about to say. This is why we can't
have nice things. Watson is going to screw it up
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for everyone else who wants fully guaranteed money in the NFL,
because the next great player that says, hey, wait a minute,
I would like fully guaranteed money, they'll pull out the
sizzle reel. If Deshaun Watson getting massages and missing games
and not trying to play and they'll say, I think
we're good. I think we're all right. I think we're okay.
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Watson in this idea that the Browns are totally so
now this they're going to have a Dabbroni playing quarterback here.
But the idea that the Browns are totally up against it.
I reject that Deshaun Watson was the twenty first ranked
quarterback in the NFL. He was behind Gino Smith, who
I think sucks, and Derek Carr, who blows. And yet
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he was behind those guys. So there's that, and instead
the Browns go, what to the twenty eighth rank quarterback
in the NFL. Now, Dorian Thompson Robinson's gonna play, and
he's got to play better. He didn't play well the
first opportunity. Clearly the Cleveland brain trust think that he's
better at this point than PJ. Walker, and so they're
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giving Dorian Thompson Robinson the chance and we'll see what
he can do.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
The smartest bed, as I've been getting ready to last
couple of days for the TV show Benny Versus the Penny,
is actually the under It's not it's not on any
of the teams because they're devoid of good quarterback play.
But that is a conversation for another time. It is
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just how ridiculous buy the numbers.
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We'll get to that and we will do it.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
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Deshaun Watson down for the count. We started the night
with that Your fee me in Chicago, writes, and he says,
hey Ben, a plus and pumpkin pie on the Mallard monologue.
Here is a new Craigslist ad NFL quarterback with millions
looking for a massage therapist on the DL in the
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Ohio Land area. No, No, that's that's old school. You're
dating yourself to feed me. He just goes to Instagram.
He's on the gramm me TikTok. You might go over
to TikTok and knock it out of the park. Maximo
writes and says, Luckily for the Browns, he says their
quarterback is already a veteran due to his eight year
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college career, as Dorian Thompson Robinson dtr for now takes over.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But there'll be more than one that plays in that situation.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
On Late Night, drug Tester from Parts Unknown Rights Since
says all isn't lost for the Browns as long as
Dick and Dayton has faith, they make the playoffs. Looking
forward to Dick finding the Great Thanksgiving Day Meal special Yeah, Well,
we look forward to talking to Dick later. I wonder
if he knows that Deshaun Watson is going to be
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out for the year.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
He probably does. That news came out early in the day,
so it's more likely than not that he knows.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
And if we were to ask Dick and Dayton, who
only calls up the final hour of the show, and
we said, hey, Dick, who would you like to see
is the Browns quarterback? His antswer if you've heard the
show at all, you know his answer would be Bernie
Bernie Coozar, that the Browns need to bring in Bernie Coozar.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Put Bernie out there and see what they can do
with Bernie.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, Mike in Dodge writes and he says, I want
to see Browns versus Jets now back up Battle of
twenty three?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Who you got, eh?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I would in that matter, I'd take the Browns, Zach Wilson,
all these guys defending Zach Wilson and saying how wonderful
was Zach Wilson is?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I don't know, not so much. What do we have here?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
People stunned finding out I was getting a bunch of
messages you fee me. Also on the podcast when we
had Marcel in Brooklyn who said no to peace. He
turned down peace with Blair in May, a shocking turn
of events, and that did happen on the live airwaves
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Gordons of FSR. So there's a term in politics called
pork barrel spending. So when you just frivolously throw money
into something that you don't need to. There's there's been
stories over the years. I remember reading about this years
ago where they built bridges to nowhere in Alaska and
just ridiculous things because they have to spend the money.
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One thing about the government is that if they allocate
money to a certain jurisdiction, you have to spend the
money or in the future you don't get the same
amount of money. So even if you have an access,
you have to waste the money. The Cleveland Browns have
mastered pork barrel spending. So Deshaun Watson, if my malor
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math is correct, and I'm never wrong at malor math,
it's malor math can't be wrong at malomath. So Deshaun
Watson has per touchdown since joining the Cleveland Brown's been
paid five point six million dollars for every time he's
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led the Browns down into the end zone.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
So far, he's around ninety million, a little over ninety
million in two years, and he has played well.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I think if you do the math on this, the
last three years, Watson's played like eleven or twelve games.
The last three years he has been out of the loop,
out of the loop.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
In the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
So you look at the the the numbers there by
the number, I can give you all kinds of financial numbers.
Per pass attempt, Watson's making you over one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars or something like that, and per completion
it's close to three hundred and fifty thousand somewhere in
that ballpark. And we can we can break all that
stuff down. But it's more fun to say Deshaun Watson
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terrible as a quarterback when playing well, Watson. There's forty
two quarterbacks that have thrown two hundred and fifty passes
or more since the start of the twenty twenty two
season when Watson became the darling of the Brownies, and
in that time again, forty two. That's it. That's the
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bottom forty two and Watson, I think the numbers twelve
games he's played for the Browns twelve games, so two
hundred and thirty million, twelve games, forty two quarterbacks, two
hundred and fifty pass attempts. Watson, I've crunched the numbers here.
He is fortieth in completion percentage, so there's only two
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quarterbacks that are worse. Thirty first in interception percentage thirty
seventh and passer rating thirty eighth.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
In saccharate, you want, I'll keep going. You want, I'll go.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I'm gonna keep going. A yards per pass attempt thirty fifth.
More you want.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
More, I'll give you more.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
How about passing yards per game thirty sixth all right,
one more thirty eighth in passing six sasas rate thirty eighth.
That's Washington. Now that's enough. You doubt need more. You
gotta pay extra for that. You gotta pay extra for more.
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It's very impressive work, though by Watson. It turns out
it was not elementary. My dear Watson, playing quarterback for
the Clevelands, I also saw I saw this bouncing around.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I was debating whether or not to do.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
A Mallard monologue or part of a Mallard monologue on this,
and I'm like, God, I've pretty much flogged that that
horse enough. I don't know that we need to go
back down that road, and we'll do it another day.
I'm sure this will pop back up on our radar.
But there's a story that that I was reading earlier
that says that the Giants ownership has already decided that
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Daniel Jones will be back as the starting quarterback for
the Giants next season and the row Ton to Brian
Dable will continue as the head coach, and also Joe
Shane the GM. I would like to facilitate a rumor
and I want you to file this away.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
O God, I want you to file this away.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
And remember this that you first heard this on the
Ben Malers Show in the middle of the night when
no one's awake and everyone's sleeping and it's an overnight show.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
And what do we know?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Should the New York Giants continue on the path that
they're on, and should the Buffalo Bills continue on the
path that they're on?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Dare I say.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
That the New York Giants will attempt to pry away
Josh Allen from the Buffalo Bills. As of right now,
the Giants would have the number two pick in the draft.
There are two top quarterbacks in this draft, so the
Giants could just draft a quarterback and do that.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
But Brian Dable.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
All my people in Buffalo tell me that there's such
a bromance between Brian Dable and Josh Allen. So I
would like to be the first in mainstream media to
start the rumor.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Josh Allen, New York Giant next year. Bucket Dan tweet
that out.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Coope put that on the official Fox Sports Radio twitter feed.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
We're starting the rumor. We're starting the rumor right now.
Love it.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
For years, I ran a rumor website. I love that too.
That was a lot of fun aggregating rumors. Every once
in a while, people would throw me a nugget and
I'd get that nice, nice juicy nugget, and that'd be
very nice.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
There.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Just file that awaymer Giants two and eight, same record
as the Patriots and the Cardinals. Only one team in
the NFL's worst, the Carolina Panthers, with that pick goes
to the Bears. So should the Giants end up with
one of those top three picks, let's say trade that
to Buffalo. Buffalo gets out from underneath the albatross of
a contract. Josh Allen's not living up to and you
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can start fresh. Tradesta Fawn Diggs, He's going to be
traded more likely than that.
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Speaker 5 (24:12):
Back to the NBA where Philadelphia seventy six ers guard
Kelly Ubray Junior claimed he was hit by a car.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, how did that go?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Out riding a bike resulting in a broken rib and
some injuries to his hit and leg one problem. The
police say that they looked at the surveillance footage of
the intersection where he claims that he was hit by
the car, and there is no video showing a guy
being hit by a car.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
How is that possible?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
At he did he get medical attention and go to
the hospital for a hit and run incident?
Speaker 5 (24:43):
That is correct?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
How is it possible? Did he not realize I've been
to Philadelphia. There's cameras everywhere in Philadelphia. It's like a
police state there. They're in New York City.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Not just Philadelphia, a lot of places, but.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
But City Center in Philadelphia, which is where that happened. Right,
That's where the middle where all the action is, right,
the Liberty bells down there.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
They got some good bars, good restaurants in Philly.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
And so the question is how did he suffer the
broken rib and the injuries to his hipp and like
head coach Nick Nurse says that he stands by Aubray
has no reason to not believe him.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
So I'm going I'm gonna go coach the coach.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I'm gonna go George Norri here that Kelly Ubray was
abducted by the Grays, and they test, they did experience the.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Experiments on him, probed him. They probed him. That's right
it you know the terminology.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So they probed Kelly Oubray and they dropped him City Center.
But because they're aliens, they were able to freeze the camera,
so nothing showed up on the camera.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
It's a great hack. Well, this is very interesting.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
Yes, Otherwise it's a very intricate like cover up because
I also saw on TMZ they had like ring doorbell
camera footage of him going back into I don't I
don't know if it was his home or a friend's
home or whatever, with his bike all messed up, and
he walks to the front door and he says, I
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just got hit by a car and you could hear
the girl like in the background, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
God, he's gonna hit by a car.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
That So did he like play out this whole scene
for the ring camera footage to corroborate his story, you
know the kids, because that'd be next level.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
They love the cosplay. They loved that, and so maybe
it was all you know, it's like Halloween. I don't know,
of course, it is conceivable. This is just an Ockham's
razor situation where he's new to Philadelphia. He hasn't been
there that long. He didn't know where it happened. He
gave he gave a intersection, and he gave the wrong,
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wrong address, but all of Center Philadelphia, I mean the
Center City area, I mean his cameras everywhere, and didn't
did he go home? I thought there were paramedics that
he called him once he got home.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
All right, all right, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
You think Joe l Embid like ran into him or
something like that, and as a cover up, because he's
trying to cover for Embiid. Em Bid was upset he
didn't passing the ball.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
No, maybe Embiid ran him over in his car.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Well, that's what I'm saying yeah, he was upset and
it was like some kind of weird, weird payback.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
But good luck to Kelly Ubre.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
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Dot com.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Why is line one there? Line one's a banned from
the show. Why would line one be there? Why is
line one there? Because line one's not allowed on the
show anymore. We banned line one from the show.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
That's what I told him. He didn't believe his band and.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
You can't do it, said, I'm pretty sure it's real.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, no, no, it's not fake.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I mean we gave him what four opportunities to to genuflect.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Then he requested to talk to you off the air.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Oh, no, there's no talking off the air. You're You're
dead to me. That's it.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
You've crossed the line. You spat a loogie at my
life's work. I'm done with you and you can hang
out with your little internet friends. I don't know who
you're talking to. I blocked you on X when you're
dead to me. You're dead to me, and I've moved on.
The relationship has ended. There's nothing more that needs to
be said. It's all over.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
It's turn out the lights the party.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Now that being said, we have an unhappy co pilot
in New York, New York, New Last Act, New Jersey,
the Jets and c J Uzama, the tight End. Former
Cincinnati Bengal Uzama spotted on a social media no no
(29:19):
liking comments from Jet fans that were asking the team
to release him, to fire him. Uzama, who was pretty
good in Cincinnati, has not been pretty good with the Jets.
Chris hard to be good when you go from Joe
Burrow to numb Nuts and Zach Wilson. One person even
(29:40):
said that Usama should retire and so, so here we are.
It's probably bored effing around, futsing around with his phone.
He's like these people don't like me. Okay, I'm gonna
save everything.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Or it's possible.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Also, it's one of those things where you're like, hey,
I'm gonna I'm just gonna get us file these away.
Because I sports, all of sports. I determined this had
an epiphany several months back there. The entire industrial complex
of professional sports is fueled by you didn't think we
could do it. It's fueled by the haters. Without the haters,
(30:15):
there is no sports. If everyone said you're the greatest,
You're going to win, we love you, that, no one
would do any sports.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
It's only to.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Prove the doubters wrong that you were you were too slow,
or too small, or you just didn't have it. That's
the only reason these athletes even participate, that in the
ridiculous amounts of money they get paid. I score the phones.
Mike is in Dodge Shello, Mike.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Man, how are you doing.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, I'm talking to a microphone here joining the nice
feedback I'm getting when I speak to you.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
So, uh, Jets Brown's with the quarterback situation.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Well yeah, yeah, you said that, and I said I
would take the Browns.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Hey, look they play on December the twenty eighth.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Who you got, Well, I'll tell you on my TV
show Benny Versus the Penny.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
But at this point, right now, it's the Browns.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Okay, okay, So so.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
AFC entire, who do you have who's gonna play the Eagles?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
And also you already have the Eagles already advancing?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Well I do, look who's gonna who's gonna compete? Assuming
that listen, listen to me, listen to me, listen to
may take your breath.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
Yeah yeah, I'm must say I'm not playing back.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
All these idiots told me that the top teams are
in the a FC. But I'm looking at the NFC,
and assuming the Niners have everyone healthy, they have a
great system. Quarterback plays very well when everyone's healthy around you. Sure,
in Brock Party, the Detroit Lions could outscore everybody. They
have to play in good weather. They can't play on
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the road in Philadelphia. They will not win in cold
weather in Philadelphia. But if they playing the Dome, they
could outscore the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I could see that.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
The AFC, the Super Bowl, the National Championship is gonna
come out of the AFC.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Well, that's college football.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I do not think the national champion of college football
will come out of the AFC. That's a hot that's
a hot take. Nobody else has that take. That that's
an original take.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Benny Benny, Benny, Benny, and mccasey, guy like m that's right.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Mike, Kansas City Chiefs, it's gotta be Kansas City because
that's the home of the Ben Mallord chicken fingers in
Kansas City.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
Hey, look, and I wasn't going to go there.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
But you and I'm going to Kansas.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
City for the.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
You're going to Kansas City for Thanksgiving? All right?
Speaker 4 (33:06):
So hey, where where do I need?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
What's the establishment?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Where do I need to go? Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I feel like you're being put up to ask me that.
But it's at the landing in Liberty, Missouri, just down
the road from Arrowhead Stadium there in beautiful Liberty.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
I'm a park guy. I'm a little park guy.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I really all right, And tell him, tell him I
sent you, and we'll take care.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Of absolutely all.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I gotta goe all right, all right, hang up, go away, Yes,
all right, thank you?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
It is the show as we roll on. Now we've
retired the NHL Puckham should we bring the NHL puck
him back. I don't know that we need to do that.
I mean we could if you want. We'll see how
much time we have. But here's the who am I?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Game?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Forty nine ers star Christian McCaffrey. He's got sixty four
first downs. Those are the most through nine games since
me again. Forty nine er star Christian McCaffrey, sixty four
first downs the most through nine games since me? Who
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am I?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
That is the question the answer. We'll get to it
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Steve says, I would rather hear the NHL PUCKHM instead
of the Iowa minute Wow. Shot fired at Iowa Sam.
He says he's upset with IOA Sam for not mentioning
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Forty nine er star Christian McCaffrey's got sixty four first
downs and that's the most through nine games since me.
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Who am I? That is the question? This is the
entire NFL. Dante's going with Willis McGahee. Scott points out
it's Al Bundy's bear feet that that is the answer.
Kellen clements from Sean in the Valley of the Sun.
Barry Sanders from Callaghan Tim in Michigan. Who else you have?
Cowboy Killer, says Connor McGregor. Is the way to go
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Yaphimi says Russell Wilson. The Penny from Frogdog. No, No,
I'm on the comeback trail with the Penny. Alf the
Alien Opiner going with Barbie Now I don't remember that
Barbie didn't have that one. Jeff going with Roger Craig,
Jeff Burrows from Mister Nice Guy, Paige Down.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
See who else do we have?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Mississippi native Walter Payton from the Sawman who happens to
be from Mississippi? Let's see your page? Dan Les Grossman
from Milkman, Mike in Colorado, Kelly Ubres Bike from Plant based, Uh,
Paige Down, Mike Gilleskie, Gilleskie. He's for me to say,
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christ and de mooines a plant. I went with Lord
Charlie Brown from Don Juan a R. That's enough, Eddie.
Do you have an answer?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Eddie? Oh?
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Yes, it's former Dolphins star Jay Gie Ja Jai good name.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
But that was incorrect.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
It was actually it was a Gurley Todd Gurley number
thirty Todd Gurley for the Oil La Rams back in
twenty eighteen. That was the is do we want to try?
The NHL puckham or should we just avoid the coops
like I don't he didn't want.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
To do it, right, you don't want to do it, coop,
you don't. You don't want to do it.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Just say you don't want to do your anti hockey
coops taking an anti hockey position.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
Well, Eddie doesn't want to do the NBA pick him,
So I don't want to do the NHL puck up.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
All right, No, we're done. We just do football. That's
it until baseball. We'll just do football. We've retired the
NHL puck as an act approach trade off.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
So no, no NB, no NBA. We three days a week.
We only did the NBA once a week and the
NBA was the rest of the times.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Well, and for those that are new to the show,
we stopped doing the NBA Fantasy daily fantasy game because
the NBA player stopped trying during the regular season. So
we said, if they're not going to show up to work,
why should we bother picking them?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
And so we just stopped. Yeah, and I don't think
the show has been any worse, right, I mean definitely not.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
As anyone complained. Boy, I wish we had the NBA
pick them. No, one's done that, right, not a single person.
That's nobody even noticed. Nobody even noticed.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
So I noticed because I hated doing it.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, you know you you gave up after like a week,
you would give up. That's your that's your go to
move there.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
But uh yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
We're good.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
So ill no heart, I won't even bother look at
the hockey. We'll just we'll wait for Eddie's little segment there.
That's the hockey segment, and on today actually later on,
well that'll be the hockey. That's all we need to do.
We don't need to worry about any of this other nonsense.
We'll just forget about it.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I don't
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There was one guy in particular. You don't know who
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But football football's more important to us than regular season
pro bouncy ball. So we're gonna go with the football.
And we assume you've heard. By now, we assume you've heard,
but maybe not. Maybe you don't get out much, and
you don't pay attention, and you got stuff going on.
So Deshaun Watson has put the mute button on his season.
(02:55):
He's pulled the plug on the rest of his twenty
twenty three season. The Browns announcing that Watson, I know
you're disappointed, the creepy quarterback. Yeah, guy is not going
to be playing, but Deshaun Watson. And now the Browns
announcing that Watson is going to undergo season ending surgery.
He's got a problem with his throwing shoulder. The report
(03:18):
claimed there was an MRI performed and that revealed that
Watson has a displaced fracture of some part of his shoulder.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I'm not a doctor.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I don't know if that is anyway, Watson played the
majority of the game with this injury and played better
than he's ever played as a Cleveland Brown. Got hurt
in the first quarter and had a perfect second half
as quarterback for the Brons. So all you had to
do was break the guy's shoulder, and then all of
(03:48):
a sudden, you're good to go, right or you're good
to go on that now, Watson told the media that
he was He said he was in quote disbelief over
the injury. That was the quote. The quote, He's in
disbelief over the injury. You tappened again in the first
quarter there of the game against the Ravens. So let
us discuss it. Before we discuss, why don't we play
(04:09):
some audio. We have some audio. I don't know what
the audio is. I have no idea. Let's find out together.
Here's Deshaun Watson commenting on what a total failure he
is with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
It's very frustrating, but as part of life, what I've
been able to deal with. You know, my twenty eight
years of my life is just another stone that's that's
in the way. And you know I have faith in
myself and my Lord that you know I'm overcoming. So
you know I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be, I'm gonna
be straight, and I'm gonna get to it for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
By the way, Lord is the name of one of
the massage therapists that takes care of him.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I think that's the nickname he gave. The young lady
calls her Lord Lord of the Massage. We have more audio,
I'm told we have more odor.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
All right, let's go the editor who paid a lot
of money here people in edit Fox Sports Radio. They're
making the big bucks. Here's more audio. Yeah, here is
Deshaun Watson take of us.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
All the experts and doctors was the ones that told
me that it was there was no chance.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
So uh now.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I pushed as far as that possibly could to you know,
get back out there and just try to play and
try to push it towards after the season. But I
think the best situation for I guess longevity in my
career is is to be able to get a media surgery.
And that's what all the experts said, So you know,
I gotta I gotta follow their footsteps and go from there.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Follow the science. Uh, Deshaun following the science?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
All right, let us discuss the question what are your
initial thoughts on Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Down for the count done for the year with the
Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So I've got jet Stream, Supermarket, Sweep, and Swifties and
we will combine all of these things together and we
are going to make a full body massage in the
Happy Baby Yoga post because we know DeShawn likes that.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
That'll make him feel better, That'll make him feel really good.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
So a DeShawn said he was in disbelief.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That was the word that he used.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
We are not in disbelief when it comes to Deshaun
Watson on this side of the microphone missing the rest
of the season, because I'll tell you why we've paid attention, right,
we've paid attention. Deshaun Watson had already missed several games
and it was a questionable nature.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Like the famous story was, he was.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Medically cleared by the Cleveland Brown doctors and still went
a wall. Remember that right before the game, I can't
play psych after saying all week he was going to play.
And the jet stream, the jet stream has been heading
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towards the direction of DeShawn finding a way to shut
it down, and it is actually a blessing in disguise.
For clear, let me explain why Watson hasn't been good.
That's the first thing, right, people think Watson's good, He's not.
He's not even a top twenty, top twenty five quarterback
in most key statistical categories since he took over in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
He's just another guy.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
He's a just a Ham and egger at quarterback who's
making a lot of money, a lot more money than
Ham and Egger. So that's the first thing. Secondly, if
you care about likability, the Cleveland Browns instantaneously became much
more likable because they don't have him playing quarterback. So
now we don't have to just hate the Cleveland Browns
because they have the creepy quarterback. Now he's out of
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the picture. He's out getting the massages and here's my
little towel.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
You know. Oh look my twiggingberries popped out.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
He's got all that going on, right, he's got all
that going on, and he just brings us like negative
cloud to Sean Watson, and he will for the rest
of his career. It's impossible to pull for the Browns
with Watson playing quarterback. But he's not playing right now.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Next man up.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
They don't have anybody who's any good. But we'll get
to more of that in a minute. With Watson's sideline,
the Browns move up on the big board of likability.
So that's the point. And even with a bunch of
stiffs playing quarterback. Now, the second part of this, as
we continue to unpack the story out of Cleveland. As
(08:25):
we unwrap this the story further, the question couldn't Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Have played through the injury.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Now this is where it gets awkward, and this is
where it gets uncomfortable for some people. Now, Watson played
the second half of the game in Baltimore and played
as well or better than he's ever played as a
Cleveland Brown quarterback. He played great in the second half,
and there is no consensus whether or not this has
(08:51):
to happen where he had to shut it down. Now,
the Browns PR machine, along with Deshaun Watson, fed the
story and we played the audio there that the team
doctors determined that Watson needed immediate surgery to prevent long
term structural damage. Keep in mind, Watson didn't listen to
the Cleveland Brown team doctors when they said he was
(09:13):
good to go earlier in the year. So why is
he listening now? Can anyone answer that? Because the Browns
doctors cleared him to play in a game and a
couple hours before the game said I'm playing. So then
he didn't trust the science, but now he trusts the science.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So why isn't that what change?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Is it possible that they told him what he wanted
to hear and he's like, all right, I don't play here.
I hate Cleveland, and I only went there because of
the money.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
But if Deshaun Watson was hell bent on play, he's
getting guaranteed money, so he didn't have to play. My
Spidey like senses tell me. If Watson was not getting
guaranteed money, he would have played Supermarket sweep the medical addition,
and gone out to find a doctor that would have said,
you know.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
What, you can play in the rest of the year.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Right, I'll go I'll find this guy in Chicago named Mike,
doc Mike. Or I'll go to Tijuana and find a
doctor there.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I'll go anywhere. I'll go to Columbia, I'll go to Ecuador.
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I'll find a doctor that will say, Okay, you can play,
because there's always one. Right, if you go to enough doctors,
you'll find what you want. Just have to keep going
getting getting different opinions. And if you found a doctor
he wanted to play and the doctor said, well, you
don't have you should play.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
You can play, it's fine, he would have played.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
All right, final thought here on all this and the
last words, So what is the lesson? What is the
lesson in the Deshaun Watson situation? In year two in
the land, so it is a cautionary tale. It is
a cautionary tale. There's a Latin phrase for this caveat emptor,
(10:57):
which which essentially means buyer beware, buyer beware. Watson has
been at this point a total bust. We do the
show today, as we like to point out, we don't
do the show four years from now or five years
from now. And all we have is what's going on
in this moment. Deshaun Watson is rotting whale flesh with
(11:19):
flies hovering around and maggots starting to eat the rotting flesh.
That is what Watson is meant. He's not worth the money,
and it's going to have long term ramifications. The Swifties
know what I'm about to say, right, The Swifties know
what I'm about to say. This is why we can't
have nice things. Watson is going to screw it up
(11:41):
for everyone else who wants fully guaranteed money in the NFL,
because the next great player that says, hey, wait a minute,
I would like fully guaranteed money, they'll pull out the
sizzle reel. If Deshaun Watson getting massages and missing games
and not trying to play and they'll say, I think
we're good. I think we're all right. I think we're okay.
(12:02):
Watson in this idea that the Browns are totally so
now this they're going to have a Dabbroni playing quarterback here.
But the idea that the Browns are totally up against it.
I reject that Deshaun Watson was the twenty first ranked
quarterback in the NFL. He was behind Gino Smith, who
I think sucks, and Derek Carr, who blows. And yet
(12:25):
he was behind those guys. So there's that, and instead
the Browns go, what to the twenty eighth rank quarterback
in the NFL. Now, Dorian Thompson Robinson's gonna play, and
he's got to play better. He didn't play well the
first opportunity. Clearly the Cleveland brain trust think that he's
better at this point than PJ. Walker, and so they're
(12:46):
giving Dorian Thompson Robinson the chance and we'll see what
he can do.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
The smartest bed, as I've been getting ready to last
couple of days for the TV show Benny Versus the Penny,
is actually the under It's not it's not on any
of the teams because they're devoid of good quarterback play.
But that is a conversation for another time. It is
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Speaker 1 (13:42):
We'll get to that and we will do it.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
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Eddie Garcia, your humble sidekick, the voice of Reason, your
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Speaker 1 (15:23):
Eddie Stop Eddie.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
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Sports Radio Studios. It's Ben Maller.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Deshaun Watson down for the count. We started the night
with that Your fee me in Chicago, writes, and he says,
hey Ben, a plus and pumpkin pie on the Mallard monologue.
Here is a new Craigslist ad NFL quarterback with millions
looking for a massage therapist on the DL in the
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Ohio Land area. No, No, that's that's old school. You're
dating yourself to feed me. He just goes to Instagram.
He's on the gramm me TikTok. You might go over
to TikTok and knock it out of the park. Maximo
writes and says, Luckily for the Browns, he says their
quarterback is already a veteran due to his eight year
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college career, as Dorian Thompson Robinson dtr for now takes over.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But there'll be more than one that plays in that situation.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
On Late Night, drug Tester from Parts Unknown Rights Since
says all isn't lost for the Browns as long as
Dick and Dayton has faith, they make the playoffs. Looking
forward to Dick finding the Great Thanksgiving Day Meal special Yeah, Well,
we look forward to talking to Dick later. I wonder
if he knows that Deshaun Watson is going to be
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out for the year.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
He probably does. That news came out early in the day,
so it's more likely than not that he knows.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
And if we were to ask Dick and Dayton, who
only calls up the final hour of the show, and
we said, hey, Dick, who would you like to see
is the Browns quarterback? His antswer if you've heard the
show at all, you know his answer would be Bernie
Bernie Coozar, that the Browns need to bring in Bernie Coozar.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Put Bernie out there and see what they can do
with Bernie.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, Mike in Dodge writes and he says, I want
to see Browns versus Jets now back up Battle of
twenty three?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Who you got, eh?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I would in that matter, I'd take the Browns, Zach Wilson,
all these guys defending Zach Wilson and saying how wonderful
was Zach Wilson is?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I don't know, not so much. What do we have here?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
People stunned finding out I was getting a bunch of
messages you fee me. Also on the podcast when we
had Marcel in Brooklyn who said no to peace. He
turned down peace with Blair in May, a shocking turn
of events, and that did happen on the live airwaves
(18:00):
Gordons of FSR. So there's a term in politics called
pork barrel spending. So when you just frivolously throw money
into something that you don't need to. There's there's been
stories over the years. I remember reading about this years
ago where they built bridges to nowhere in Alaska and
just ridiculous things because they have to spend the money.
(18:23):
One thing about the government is that if they allocate
money to a certain jurisdiction, you have to spend the
money or in the future you don't get the same
amount of money. So even if you have an access,
you have to waste the money. The Cleveland Browns have
mastered pork barrel spending. So Deshaun Watson, if my malor
(18:44):
math is correct, and I'm never wrong at malor math,
it's malor math can't be wrong at malomath. So Deshaun
Watson has per touchdown since joining the Cleveland Brown's been
paid five point six million dollars for every time he's
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led the Browns down into the end zone.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
So far, he's around ninety million, a little over ninety
million in two years, and he has played well.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I think if you do the math on this, the
last three years, Watson's played like eleven or twelve games.
The last three years he has been out of the loop,
out of the loop.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
In the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
So you look at the the the numbers there by
the number, I can give you all kinds of financial numbers.
Per pass attempt, Watson's making you over one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars or something like that, and per completion
it's close to three hundred and fifty thousand somewhere in
that ballpark. And we can we can break all that
stuff down. But it's more fun to say Deshaun Watson
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terrible as a quarterback when playing well, Watson. There's forty
two quarterbacks that have thrown two hundred and fifty passes
or more since the start of the twenty twenty two
season when Watson became the darling of the Brownies, and
in that time again, forty two. That's it. That's the
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bottom forty two and Watson, I think the numbers twelve
games he's played for the Browns twelve games, so two
hundred and thirty million, twelve games, forty two quarterbacks, two
hundred and fifty pass attempts. Watson, I've crunched the numbers here.
He is fortieth in completion percentage, so there's only two
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quarterbacks that are worse. Thirty first in interception percentage thirty
seventh and passer rating thirty eighth.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
In saccharate, you want, I'll keep going. You want, I'll go.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I'm gonna keep going. A yards per pass attempt thirty fifth.
More you want.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
More, I'll give you more.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
How about passing yards per game thirty sixth all right,
one more thirty eighth in passing six sasas rate thirty eighth.
That's Washington. Now that's enough. You doubt need more. You
gotta pay extra for that. You gotta pay extra for more.
(21:11):
It's very impressive work, though by Watson. It turns out
it was not elementary. My dear Watson, playing quarterback for
the Clevelands, I also saw I saw this bouncing around.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I was debating whether or not to do.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
A Mallard monologue or part of a Mallard monologue on this,
and I'm like, God, I've pretty much flogged that that
horse enough. I don't know that we need to go
back down that road, and we'll do it another day.
I'm sure this will pop back up on our radar.
But there's a story that that I was reading earlier
that says that the Giants ownership has already decided that
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Daniel Jones will be back as the starting quarterback for
the Giants next season and the row Ton to Brian
Dable will continue as the head coach, and also Joe
Shane the GM. I would like to facilitate a rumor
and I want you to file this away.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
O God, I want you to file this away.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
And remember this that you first heard this on the
Ben Malers Show in the middle of the night when
no one's awake and everyone's sleeping and it's an overnight show.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
And what do we know?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Should the New York Giants continue on the path that
they're on, and should the Buffalo Bills continue on the
path that they're on?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Dare I say.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
That the New York Giants will attempt to pry away
Josh Allen from the Buffalo Bills. As of right now,
the Giants would have the number two pick in the draft.
There are two top quarterbacks in this draft, so the
Giants could just draft a quarterback and do that.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
But Brian Dable.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
All my people in Buffalo tell me that there's such
a bromance between Brian Dable and Josh Allen. So I
would like to be the first in mainstream media to
start the rumor.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Josh Allen, New York Giant next year. Bucket Dan tweet
that out.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Coope put that on the official Fox Sports Radio twitter feed.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
We're starting the rumor. We're starting the rumor right now.
Love it.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
For years, I ran a rumor website. I love that too.
That was a lot of fun aggregating rumors. Every once
in a while, people would throw me a nugget and
I'd get that nice, nice juicy nugget, and that'd be
very nice.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
There.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Just file that awaymer Giants two and eight, same record
as the Patriots and the Cardinals. Only one team in
the NFL's worst, the Carolina Panthers, with that pick goes
to the Bears. So should the Giants end up with
one of those top three picks, let's say trade that
to Buffalo. Buffalo gets out from underneath the albatross of
a contract. Josh Allen's not living up to and you
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can start fresh. Tradesta Fawn Diggs, He's going to be
traded more likely than that.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
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Speaker 5 (24:12):
Back to the NBA where Philadelphia seventy six ers guard
Kelly Ubray Junior claimed he was hit by a car.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, how did that go?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Out riding a bike resulting in a broken rib and
some injuries to his hit and leg one problem. The
police say that they looked at the surveillance footage of
the intersection where he claims that he was hit by
the car, and there is no video showing a guy
being hit by a car.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
How is that possible?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
At he did he get medical attention and go to
the hospital for a hit and run incident?
Speaker 5 (24:43):
That is correct?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
How is it possible? Did he not realize I've been
to Philadelphia. There's cameras everywhere in Philadelphia. It's like a
police state there. They're in New York City.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Not just Philadelphia, a lot of places, but.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
But City Center in Philadelphia, which is where that happened. Right,
That's where the middle where all the action is, right,
the Liberty bells down there.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
They got some good bars, good restaurants in Philly.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
And so the question is how did he suffer the
broken rib and the injuries to his hipp and like
head coach Nick Nurse says that he stands by Aubray
has no reason to not believe him.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
So I'm going I'm gonna go coach the coach.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I'm gonna go George Norri here that Kelly Ubray was
abducted by the Grays, and they test, they did experience the.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Experiments on him, probed him. They probed him. That's right
it you know the terminology.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So they probed Kelly Oubray and they dropped him City Center.
But because they're aliens, they were able to freeze the camera,
so nothing showed up on the camera.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
It's a great hack. Well, this is very interesting.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
Yes, Otherwise it's a very intricate like cover up because
I also saw on TMZ they had like ring doorbell
camera footage of him going back into I don't I
don't know if it was his home or a friend's
home or whatever, with his bike all messed up, and
he walks to the front door and he says, I
(26:06):
just got hit by a car and you could hear
the girl like in the background, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
God, he's gonna hit by a car.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
That So did he like play out this whole scene
for the ring camera footage to corroborate his story, you
know the kids, because that'd be next level.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
They love the cosplay. They loved that, and so maybe
it was all you know, it's like Halloween. I don't know,
of course, it is conceivable. This is just an Ockham's
razor situation where he's new to Philadelphia. He hasn't been
there that long. He didn't know where it happened. He
gave he gave a intersection, and he gave the wrong,
(26:46):
wrong address, but all of Center Philadelphia, I mean the
Center City area, I mean his cameras everywhere, and didn't
did he go home? I thought there were paramedics that
he called him once he got home.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
All right, all right, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
You think Joe l Embid like ran into him or
something like that, and as a cover up, because he's
trying to cover for Embiid. Em Bid was upset he
didn't passing the ball.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
No, maybe Embiid ran him over in his car.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Well, that's what I'm saying yeah, he was upset and
it was like some kind of weird, weird payback.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
But good luck to Kelly Ubre.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
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Speaker 1 (27:59):
Dot com.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Why is line one there? Line one's a banned from
the show. Why would line one be there? Why is
line one there? Because line one's not allowed on the
show anymore. We banned line one from the show.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
That's what I told him. He didn't believe his band and.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
You can't do it, said, I'm pretty sure it's real.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, no, no, it's not fake.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I mean we gave him what four opportunities to to genuflect.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Then he requested to talk to you off the air.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Oh, no, there's no talking off the air. You're You're
dead to me. That's it.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
You've crossed the line. You spat a loogie at my
life's work. I'm done with you and you can hang
out with your little internet friends. I don't know who
you're talking to. I blocked you on X when you're
dead to me. You're dead to me, and I've moved on.
The relationship has ended. There's nothing more that needs to
be said. It's all over.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
It's turn out the lights the party.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Now that being said, we have an unhappy co pilot
in New York, New York, New Last Act, New Jersey,
the Jets and c J Uzama, the tight End. Former
Cincinnati Bengal Uzama spotted on a social media no no
(29:19):
liking comments from Jet fans that were asking the team
to release him, to fire him. Uzama, who was pretty
good in Cincinnati, has not been pretty good with the Jets.
Chris hard to be good when you go from Joe
Burrow to numb Nuts and Zach Wilson. One person even
(29:40):
said that Usama should retire and so, so here we are.
It's probably bored effing around, futsing around with his phone.
He's like these people don't like me. Okay, I'm gonna
save everything.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Or it's possible.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Also, it's one of those things where you're like, hey,
I'm gonna I'm just gonna get us file these away.
Because I sports, all of sports. I determined this had
an epiphany several months back there. The entire industrial complex
of professional sports is fueled by you didn't think we
could do it. It's fueled by the haters. Without the haters,
(30:15):
there is no sports. If everyone said you're the greatest,
You're going to win, we love you, that, no one
would do any sports.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
It's only to.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Prove the doubters wrong that you were you were too slow,
or too small, or you just didn't have it. That's
the only reason these athletes even participate, that in the
ridiculous amounts of money they get paid. I score the phones.
Mike is in Dodge Shello, Mike.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Man, how are you doing.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, I'm talking to a microphone here joining the nice
feedback I'm getting when I speak to you.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
So, uh, Jets Brown's with the quarterback situation.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Well yeah, yeah, you said that, and I said I
would take the Browns.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Hey, look they play on December the twenty eighth.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Who you got, Well, I'll tell you on my TV
show Benny Versus the Penny.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
But at this point, right now, it's the Browns.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Okay, okay, So so.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
AFC entire, who do you have who's gonna play the Eagles?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
And also you already have the Eagles already advancing?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Well I do, look who's gonna who's gonna compete? Assuming
that listen, listen to me, listen to me, listen to
may take your breath.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
Yeah yeah, I'm must say I'm not playing back.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
All these idiots told me that the top teams are
in the a FC. But I'm looking at the NFC,
and assuming the Niners have everyone healthy, they have a
great system. Quarterback plays very well when everyone's healthy around you. Sure,
in Brock Party, the Detroit Lions could outscore everybody. They
have to play in good weather. They can't play on
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the road in Philadelphia. They will not win in cold
weather in Philadelphia. But if they playing the Dome, they
could outscore the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I could see that.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
The AFC, the Super Bowl, the National Championship is gonna
come out of the AFC.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Well, that's college football.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I do not think the national champion of college football
will come out of the AFC. That's a hot that's
a hot take. Nobody else has that take. That that's
an original take.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Benny Benny, Benny, Benny, and mccasey, guy like m that's right.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Mike, Kansas City Chiefs, it's gotta be Kansas City because
that's the home of the Ben Mallord chicken fingers in
Kansas City.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
Hey, look, and I wasn't going to go there.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
But you and I'm going to Kansas.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
City for the.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
You're going to Kansas City for Thanksgiving? All right?
Speaker 4 (33:06):
So hey, where where do I need?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
What's the establishment?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Where do I need to go? Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I feel like you're being put up to ask me that.
But it's at the landing in Liberty, Missouri, just down
the road from Arrowhead Stadium there in beautiful Liberty.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
I'm a park guy. I'm a little park guy.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I really all right, And tell him, tell him I
sent you, and we'll take care.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Of absolutely all.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I gotta goe all right, all right, hang up, go away, Yes,
all right, thank you?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
It is the show as we roll on. Now we've
retired the NHL Puckham should we bring the NHL puck
him back. I don't know that we need to do that.
I mean we could if you want. We'll see how
much time we have. But here's the who am I?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Game?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Forty nine ers star Christian McCaffrey. He's got sixty four
first downs. Those are the most through nine games since
me again. Forty nine er star Christian McCaffrey, sixty four
first downs the most through nine games since me? Who
(34:11):
am I?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
That is the question the answer. We'll get to it
and we will do it next.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
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Speaker 1 (34:54):
It's Ben Maller Suer Maricos.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Steve says, I would rather hear the NHL PUCKHM instead
of the Iowa minute Wow. Shot fired at Iowa Sam.
He says he's upset with IOA Sam for not mentioning
Caitlin Clark. Okay, here's the who am I?
Speaker 8 (35:09):
Game?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
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Forty nine er star Christian McCaffrey's got sixty four first
downs and that's the most through nine games since me.
(35:33):
Who am I? That is the question? This is the
entire NFL. Dante's going with Willis McGahee. Scott points out
it's Al Bundy's bear feet that that is the answer.
Kellen clements from Sean in the Valley of the Sun.
Barry Sanders from Callaghan Tim in Michigan. Who else you have?
Cowboy Killer, says Connor McGregor. Is the way to go
(35:55):
Yaphimi says Russell Wilson. The Penny from Frogdog. No, No,
I'm on the comeback trail with the Penny. Alf the
Alien Opiner going with Barbie Now I don't remember that
Barbie didn't have that one. Jeff going with Roger Craig,
Jeff Burrows from Mister Nice Guy, Paige Down.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
See who else do we have?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Mississippi native Walter Payton from the Sawman who happens to
be from Mississippi? Let's see your page? Dan Les Grossman
from Milkman, Mike in Colorado, Kelly Ubres Bike from Plant based, Uh,
Paige Down, Mike Gilleskie, Gilleskie. He's for me to say,
(36:39):
christ and de mooines a plant. I went with Lord
Charlie Brown from Don Juan a R. That's enough, Eddie.
Do you have an answer?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Eddie? Oh?
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Yes, it's former Dolphins star Jay Gie Ja Jai good name.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
But that was incorrect.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
It was actually it was a Gurley Todd Gurley number
thirty Todd Gurley for the Oil La Rams back in
twenty eighteen. That was the is do we want to try?
The NHL puckham or should we just avoid the coops
like I don't he didn't want.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
To do it, right, you don't want to do it, coop,
you don't. You don't want to do it.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Just say you don't want to do your anti hockey
coops taking an anti hockey position.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
Well, Eddie doesn't want to do the NBA pick him,
So I don't want to do the NHL puck up.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
All right, No, we're done. We just do football. That's
it until baseball. We'll just do football. We've retired the
NHL puck as an act approach trade off.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
So no, no NB, no NBA. We three days a week.
We only did the NBA once a week and the
NBA was the rest of the times.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Well, and for those that are new to the show,
we stopped doing the NBA Fantasy daily fantasy game because
the NBA player stopped trying during the regular season. So
we said, if they're not going to show up to work,
why should we bother picking them?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
And so we just stopped. Yeah, and I don't think
the show has been any worse, right, I mean definitely not.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
As anyone complained. Boy, I wish we had the NBA
pick them. No, one's done that, right, not a single person.
That's nobody even noticed. Nobody even noticed.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
So I noticed because I hated doing it.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, you know you you gave up after like a week,
you would give up. That's your that's your go to
move there.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
But uh yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
We're good.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
So ill no heart, I won't even bother look at
the hockey. We'll just we'll wait for Eddie's little segment there.
That's the hockey segment, and on today actually later on,
well that'll be the hockey. That's all we need to do.
We don't need to worry about any of this other nonsense.
We'll just forget about it.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I don't
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