August 12, 2025 • 40 mins
Ben Maller talks about Jon Gruden winning this round against the NFL in court, where the NFL goes now after being publicly pantsed by Gruden, what kind of package deal could get Gruden to take a settlement from the NFL, and much more!
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Welcome.
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It's our number one, our number one, and let the
fun begin. On this Tuesday, the twelfth day of August.
So here in our number one, John Gruden, John Gruden,
he has won a round against the NFL in court.
What are your thoughts on these latest developments. We'll get
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into the nitty gritty on that. Also, where does the
NFL go now to avoid being publicly panched by the
old Bucks and Raiders coach John Gruden in this legal case?
And what kind of package deal could get the old
NFL coach John Gruden to take a settlement from Roger Goodell.
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We'll cover all all of the downs right now here.
It is our number one.
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A case of child's play.
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We have to worry about the show right now. And
the show right now is this? We react to this?
What is this? If you did not hear, maybe not,
maybe you're not following the Nevada court system. But it
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turns out that a Nevada court has cleared the way
for a lawsuit that goes back not one, not two,
not three, but four years. Go back to the year
twenty twenty one. A lot of craziness, a lot of
people wearing masks and not going out and weird stuff
going on. But in twenty twenty one, there was a
lawsuit filed by John Gruden. Now you know that is
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that's an old NFL coach, John Gruden, he coached the Raiders. Yeah,
so John Gruden file lawsuit where a court Nevada has
announced that that lawsuit now can proceed against the National
Football League and Commissioner Roger the Dodger, Goodell Roger, the Dodger,
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who normally dodges these type of lawsuits. Now, that suit
alleged that a malicious and orchestrated campaign was used by
the NFL to destroy John Gruden's career. You might remember
the NFL famously strategically leaking all the emails that he
had sent, including the things that hit all the big ones, racism,
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misogynistic activity, homophobic comments, the big three right there by
John Gruden and all the emails that were strategically leaked
by the NFL.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
That's the claim.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So the Nevada Supreme Court, that's right, the Nevada Supreme Court,
did they cover area fifty one. Also, they ruled five
to two. What even close? Five to two was the ruling.
And they said that the arbitration clause in the NFL
constitution is let's just say non kosher, that's my term
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for it. But it does not apply to John Gruden.
They claimed as a former employee, that Gruden was not
an employee of the NFL at the time the emails
were sent. There for he is not under the bylaws
of the NFL. Now Gruden, his lawyers react to the NFL.
Their lawyers they declined comment on this particular rule, did
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not comment, did not comment. John Gruden's lawyer say that
this will help quote hold the na fell accountable. Okay,
so let us discuss the question for the esteem panel.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
John Gruden.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Certainly this is a win, whether he wins the final battle,
this is a win at this point for John Gruden.
He wins this round. John Gruden winning this round against
the NFL in court. What are your thoughts on these
latest developments the Supreme Court of Nevada siding against against
the NFL and in favor of John Gruden. So I've
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got the Jenga tower, Morgan Spurlock and cosplay and we
will combine all of these things together and put a
billboard up that says who hurt you?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Because every time I drive one by one of those,
I just want to laugh. I just laugh. I just chuckle.
I do uh.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Anyway, So my first thought on this and the latest
developments is the plot thickens.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Do do do do?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Do?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Do?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Do do do?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
It's finger byting time. It's finger byting time for the NFL.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Now.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I did send some correspondence out to people that work
in that world. They don't seem too concerned. They don't
seem too concerned. It's that hubris of the NFL. Wow,
we'll ultimately win this. It's just going to delay the inevitable.
So I would argue, though there is some finger biting
going on because you don't know what you don't know,
and for right now, with worry about right now, this
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is a seismic shift the NFL was not counting on
to the world order of the National Football League. John Gruten,
the guy who they tried to have disappear from the
face of the earth, is back. Yeah, and he's got
a for now, a wrecking ball, a wrecking ball in
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his hand. It's like a Hollywood special World's Collide, World's collide.
You got the little guy, the disgraced former hero John
Gruden who comes back from the dead, comes back from
the dead, and now now he's got the villain, a big,
big football, big NFL on the ropes. It's if you
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combine like Rocky and then you're throw in some sopranos
in there.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It's got a little bit of that, a little bit
of that.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Roger Goodell is in danger of getting the bitter taste
of his own medicine. Like the NFL tried to erase
John Gruden and now Goodell. You think there's anything in
his emails? You think Goodell sent any text messages that
might be considered I don't know, racist or misogynistic or homophobic.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Anywhere along the way.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I'm just asking, I don't know, maybe not. He's perfect,
He's the archangel. He would have never done anything like
that at all. The reason I bring that up is
because the discovery phase will be a hum dinger, a
hum Most knowledgeable people who have looked at the case
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will tell you that it is more likely than not,
based on the prepondence of the evidence, that the NFL
leaked to hand picked, handpicked friends of the NFL that
are in that New York bubble, the Wall Street Journal
and the New York Times, the emails. Now, now Gruden
gets to go into discovery at this point, this is
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where we are. He's gonna go in discovery and see
what skeletons ure he can find in the closets at
the NFL. And they have really big walk in closets,
I mean massive, And the whole wing of the house
is a closet and they man, is that a big closet.
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They can go in there and snoop around. And so
at this point, Gruden not just knocking on the door.
He's not knocking on the door. He's got the keys
and he's gonna he's gonna have all the lights on, turnable,
all on, go through everything. And it's not just about
John Gruden and some dirty emails. This is about the
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entire power structure of the NFL. And that's why this
is so fascinating. This f's everything up. They for years
have had a choke hold on anyone that dares fight them.
And this is a look behind the curtain. If it
goes the way it's going right now, where John Gruden
can reveal a lot of warts, a lot of interesting
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imperfections in the NFL world. And so the Nevada Supreme Court,
in so many words i'll sum it up, told the
NFL you cannot be both the judge and the jury.
That's essentially what they said. That's how I interpret it.
You can't have your sock puppet Commissioner Roger Goodell arbitrayed
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a case where he's one of the defendants in the case.
That's not how you do this here. And it's so simple,
yet it is so beautiful at the same time. I
don't know what your position is. My position is. It's simple,
it's logical, and it's beautiful. It's kind of like in
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some shady neighborhood boxing match and you find out that
you're watching the boxing match and it just turns out
that the referee in the boxing match happens to be
the uncle of the fighter who won the boxing match,
Like just a coincidence, you know, it's just a weird thing.
So the league's very bedrock, the very bedrock of the NFL,
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is built on this, and so they do whatever they
want whenever they want in NFL circles.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And if you don't like it, and you want to
go to.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Court and all that stuff, you can take it to
their little kangaroo court and they always win.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
They always win.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It's like going to Moscow and suing the government in Russia. Okay,
you can do that. You're not going to win. You're
not gonna win. And so now the whole wobbly Jenga tower,
the whole giant Jenga tower, is shaking.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
A little bit. It's shaking a little bit right now.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Gruden has for now, because of this Supreme Court in Nevada,
he has kicked one of the main legs of the
Jenga tower and he's he's kind of kicked it down
a little bit. So the NFL is essentially a mob family, right,
I mean, in so many words my understanding of what
the old mob was. And it's still mobs around and
all that, but essentially the mob, right, they do things,
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but they don't do things by the book, and they've
got their own book there. And the great Brent Musburger
Hall of Fame broadcaster Brent Musburg you're looking live, Brent
Musburger said of John Gruden. He was the Raider radio
play by play guy at the time all this went down.
And Musburger said of John Gruden's removal as the Raiders coach,
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he called it, this is Brent Musburger, a guy worked
in the NFL since.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Like the sixties.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
He said, professional hit job. That's Brent Musburger. Hall of
Famer Brent Musburger said the NFL took down John Gruden
on a professional hit job by a paid assassin. Is
how Musburger said it. They didn't use the usual media goombas. Now,
the usual media gumbas are state sponsored NFL media, the
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network the NFL gets sold to ESPN or anyone works
at ESPN who's in the tank for the NFL. So instead,
as we mentioned, they went to the Wall Street Journal,
They went to the New York Times, That's where they
went to. And so now the tables have turned. So
they've turned, and the NFL peeps, we would imagine we're
gonna start singing like canaries some of the people involved
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in this if it gets to the discovery phase, because
emails will get exposed and text messages and they're going
to try to do the old cya cover your ass,
and that's what everyone does now. Page two. So where
where does the NFL go now? To avoid publicly being
pansd publicly being pansd by John Gruden in the discovery
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phase of a court case. So what does the NFL
do here? So they have to get out the manny
and the petty. They have to give the many in
the petty discotus. That is where this is going. Next,
the NFL will file a formal appeal, which means lawyers
will get some more money. They're on retainer anyway. So
the NFL is gonna file a formal petition I guess,
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not really appeal, but petition for appeal, which is an appeal,
but it's a petition for a So they're going to
file a petition to the United States Supreme Court, the
highest court in the land. And if the Supreme Court
does not take the case, and they don't take most cases,
they don't take most cases a right, or if they
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do take the case and they rule in favor of
John Gruden, meaning the NFL loses loser capitalel, that means
it is on like don't get Kong. We're talking about
the discovery phase. So listen to the NFL. I mentioned
i'd put some feelers out and I just I got
the early vibe I got was Hubris. That's my word,
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that not their word. But there's an arrogance that they're
gonna win in the Supreme Court and all that stuff.
The NL is not stupid. They're not smart, but they're
not stupid, and they know that the discovery phase will
be a blood bath for them and if we get there,
and so they're gonna try to cut it off at
the pass if they have to. Now they assume they're
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gonna win because they'll just do what everyone does in
these cases and a massage from some politicians and.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
That's how it goes.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
And then at the other side of it, the other
option would be to work out of court settlement with
John Gruden a big bag of cash. I'm talking the
late Morgan Spurlock and supersize me. I'm talking John Gruden's
lawyers cooking up what do you want, John? You want
thirty forty fifty million dollars whatever you want. The NFL
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is gonna pay it. You know, it's a tax for
the NFL. They'll pay it. And Gruden, you know, he
had said the quote that it keeps coming up is
he wants to burn the house down. So he's going
to tell them to shove it. You would assume, right,
I don't need your money. I got enough. Gruden's rich.
You paid way too much money to do bad television
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and all that. So he's got a lot of money.
So if it's not about the money, it's about your reputation,
it's about the principle. And he was humiliated and all
that stuff, and he wants his pound a flash, And
then what's the NFL going to do? You know, he
can't settle. Gruden cannot settle, right, he can't do that.
The NFL made sure that he was radioactive. So what
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Gruden could do is make Roger Goodell radioactive. There is
a scenario where Gruden, this lawsuit goes forward, Goodell ends
up losing his job as the commissioner of the NFL.
That there's definitely some skeletons there somewhere if you dig
deep enough in those nice walking closets, and you.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Can get rid of Roger Goodell.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
And so at this point, John Gruden's got the league
by the balls. He's got him by the balls. And
just like the man said a famous quote, what do
you do when you've got him by the balls? You
squeeze and you keep squeezing until their hearts and minds
follow and there you go. You're on your way. Good
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luck on that, all right? Now, the last word on this.
We'll put the baby to bed on this, John Gruden.
So you will get your calls if you want to
react to it, and comments and all that. But what
kind last word here? What kind of a package de leioh,
What kind of a package deal could get John Gruden
who has said that he wants and again his quote was,
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he wants to burn the house down? So what kind
of package deal could get John Gruden to take a
settlement from the NFL As a distant relative of Nostre
Damis and friend of Nostradinas.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
He lives in Seattle. He doesn't really react to the
show very much anymore.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
But I've done the investigative work. I've done the investigative work.
So we're talking about Roger Goodell doing some cosplay in
this world that I believe in the multiverse. So in
this part of the multiverse, there's some cosplay, and Roger
Goodell he addresses up as the old Hollywood star Marlon
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Brando from back in the day in The Godfather and says,
I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse John Gruden,
and it's about Gruden getting back in the game. The
money's one thing. Gruden not needing the money.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
He's rich.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
He's made a lot of money for a long time,
so he's financially set in that regard. In the multiverse, though,
you get not only the cartoon sized check for say,
fifty million dollars, that's after taxes, after taxes, fifty million dollars.
You look around. You got Pete Carroll who's beginning his
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his first year with the team in Las Vegas, and
he's the oldest coach in the NFL. He clearly has
lost it. He brought Geno Smith in, who sucks as
the Raiders quarterback. So and we like Pete. Pet's you
a nice guy and all that, Pollyanna Pete. However, however,
John Gruden, what's the one thing he would love to
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have more than anything. The job that he had that
he thought he was gonna have for another seven or
eight years. He signed that ten year contract to be
the coach of the Raiders. So John Gruden, with that
big creasy smile on his face from ear to ear,
cheshire cat smile, heads back to Sin City coach of
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the Raiders, and Goodell can make it happen. Is Alison,
do us a solid here. We'll give you the money.
We'll get you the Raider coaching job. In fact, we'll
get you.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Whatever job you want in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
You want, what job do you want? It makes too
much sense. John Gruden returning his coach of the Raiders.
And you can see it now, the charismatic John Gruden said,
by Gunes be Bygones back on the sidelines there with
Mark Davis giving him a hug. They go out to
dinner at PF. Chang's and they get the orange chicken.
They have a great time. Remember Mark Davis said he
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never wanted to get rid of John Grudin In fact,
if I remember Correfty doing the show and being in
the Watchdower at that time. The first email dump happened
on like a Thursday or a Friday, the John Gruden
email dump. Gruden coached the Raiders against the Chicago Bears,
and then a second a second wave of emails were
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dumped because the first one didn't work. So whoever at
the NFL, in my opinion, can't sue me for my opinion.
Some of the NFL said, all right, this didn't work.
We got more email, send those out to the other
newspaper that we don't normally do business with, and you know,
we'll take down.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And that worked. The second one worked. That's it. He
was gone.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
But Mark Davis didn't want to get rid of John Gruden.
He was forced to, so he can. Goodell can unforce
it and bring him back and save his own ass
at the same time, because there's stuff in those emails
for Goodell that he'd be gone and Gruden can stick
it to the NFL's here.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I'm back. What are you gonna do now? I'm back?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
And of course I don't think it's a pipe tree.
I don't believe it's a piper. This is John Gruden's
ultimate revenge. So either you tear down the entire league,
get rid of Goodell and a bunch of other executives
because you release the emails, or you take NFL money
fifty million, let's say maybe it's more than that. They
have going low at fifty million, and you take the
money and then you get whatever NFL coaching gob you on.
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We go and begin with John Gruden, the John Gruden
mal Monologue, Scrooge says, as a Raider fan, the Gruden
story is irrelevant until he's back where he belongs as
a head coach of our Raiders. Although Gruden is the
same guy who thought Nathan Peterman was a good quarterback,
you'll probably think he can win a Super Bowl with
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Gino Smith. Well, if you remember Scrooge, when John Gruden
was doing Monday Night Football, he essentially gave well I
think I don't think I can say what he gave
to quarterbacks, but he was very giving. We called him
knee pat John Gruden because he really made the quarterbacks
feel good.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I have no idea, but yeah, anyway, Late Night Drug
Tester writes in from parts on non he says, with
the Gruden case moving forward, for now, is helmet Man
going to wait twenty years before breaking down the video
of the court proceedings. We can only hope that we
hear from Helmet Man with a full breakdown on that.
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And we can also have Bill from Korea Town give
some legal advice as well'd be great. Ferk Dog says,
admit it been the Dodgers running into the Angels in
the World Series is your worst nightmare. The Halos have
the boys in blues number scoring for this is my nightmare.
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Very concerned, very concerned about the Angels. The good thing
about the Angels beating you up is you never have
to face them in the playoffs, so it doesn't matter.
Marked A full name guy marked the full name guy right, sinces.
I've been saying for years the NFL has been covering
up some of their dirty deeds. Done dirt cheap. Oh,
I see you're quoting music network. A business model that
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Big Blank joined at the hip with the media can
certainly spin some yarn. Well, there's no question you get
in business with the media companies. You're in good shape
there for sure. Femi from Minnesota, the number one uber
eats delivery guy in Minnesota, says, delivering sandwiches around twin
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cities and listening to the show, he says, great monologue,
Ben justice for John Gruden, the Roger Goodell mob family
did coach bad Ben?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Any chance?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Goodell gets on the phone and begs John Gruden for mercy. Well,
we could make a movie, Fami, Why don't we make
a movie that could be one of the scenes in
the movie that'd be good. Mister Irrigation the legend, mister Irrigation,
the ring. We should call him ring Daddy instead of
mister Irrigation, call him ring Daddy. So mister Irrigation says,
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how deep can the arbitration issue go?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
In other words, could.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
The system be in jeopardy of being sued for the
past cases that have been illegally arbitrated in US null
and void Commissioner Gruden, So as I understand it, mister irrigation.
The mean point that Gruden has is he was not
employed by the NFL at the time those emails were sent.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
He was a Monday night.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Football broadcast, And while broadcasters are approved by the NFL,
you had to understand that they don't put people on
who aren't nice to the NFL and don't tickle the
belly of the NFL. However, not employees, not employees of
the actual NFL.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Therefore, that's a little bit of a.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Separation point, separation point, and a nature boy answering the
Call to the Wild says, what if it turns out
that Roger Goodell is the Donald Sterling in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Now that would be bad.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, Brock writes and says, Jerry Jones, the face of
the NFL is the biggest reason the Cowboys are more
popular than ever despite no Super Bowls in thirty years.
That's what we call a non sequitor from Brock. That's
a you're not on topic, Brock. I don't am I
gonna talk about the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I don't even know. I feel like every day I
talk about the Cowboys every single day. I think you
could talk about them a bit more.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Ben.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
You know, they are America's team and we are into broadcast.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh is that right? And who's the head coach of
the Cowboys right now? I'm not one guy, Jim.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Jim Jim Jim Bob Jim Bob as the coach of
the Cowboys. Supermarket Steve says, I don't see your rundown,
the Houston cheating asstro players returning to the scene of
the crime in Houston, or anything about my Yankees having
those twins come to town, which pretty much guarantees them
their first series win in over a month. And uh again,
(28:26):
Supermarket Steve is getting older, and I guess you know
he's got some issues there with his uh you know,
finding the rundown. I know it's it's big tech. It's hard,
Supermarket Steve. You know you're trying to put the command
the can of tomato soup on the on the aisle there.
It's hard to keep track everything. Let's go with the
phones and let's say hello to any meanie Mighty Mo.
(28:46):
Let's say hello to Big Mike, who is in Sin City. Hello,
Big Mike, welcome, welcome, real.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
Smatched it then nice to uh get on the line
with you.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
This is my topic and selective prosecution really gets me upset,
much like Aaron Brockovi and PG and E round one
when they offered nothing and PG and E attorneys go,
don't you know we're worth eighty six billion dollars and
(29:20):
ed MASKI said.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Really, we're going to go for so much more now.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
John Bruden is going to clean their clock financially. I'm
talking Northern of a half a billion dollars easily, because look.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
At all the people that had a dot NFL and
a dot ESPN email. They don't want to be exposed
in discovery and they can't be that.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
They don't want to be They don't want to be exposed. However,
you have to do. You have to factor in like
it seems like that's gonna be. Remember Colin Kaepernick took
a check and everyone said he had the goods on
the NFL too, and he took he took a hush hush,
he took a payout and he went away. So yeah,
he had no good Well, people said he had goods.
Don't you say he had no goods. There were people
said he had they had the goods, the whole thing.
(30:21):
There were text messages there too.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
A B l M basket of of of nonsense. But
this is real, real selective prosecution against For nine years,
all they went after was John Gruden and his relationship
and only his emails against the Washingtons soon to be
(30:44):
renamed back to the red Skins and the point.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Love your all right, thank you, Mike all it's good,
and you'll be. We're in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
You're gonna be there right August twenty third, you're gonna
stop by, all right, Well it's.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Good, be good to see. That's all right, Well you'll be.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I'll be holding court there, big micd in Vegas, checking in.
Let's go to one who's in Pennsylvania? And one is next?
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
One?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Welcome?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Hey, how's the gone?
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Guys?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, what's on your mind?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Well?
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I wanted to say that I'm not really worried or
concern about like the amount that brewing could potentially get
in the payoffs if that happens. I was really gonna
say that I'm more concerned about where the NFL is
heading as far as coaching wise, people don't realize that
(31:37):
Crudin is still a part of the old guard of coaches, Like,
you know, he won a throw bolts twenty four years ago,
twenty three years ago, And see a lot of these
young assistants being hard, a lot of these young coach
being hard, whether it's because of coaching pedigree or just
new styles and dealing with the type of players that
we have in today's league.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
So I don't.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Necessarily think that he'll have the kind of leverage that's
gonna be able to place it back in the league
unless it's with literally just the Raiders. I kind of
feel like he'll get that Phil Belichick treatment when it
comes to that. And you know, we're on the last
like of these old coaches. You know, he's gonna retire soon.
Tom is gonna be out his way on his way
(32:20):
out to throw with Pittsburgh. It's probably Peril's last stand.
So I just wanted to hear what you thought about
all that.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, No, I mean, just Gruden is older now and
so that is a factor. But he's buddies with a
lot of these these owners. They like him because he's
you know, they watched him on television so they're fans
of John Gruden and all that. Uh, the the young
guard though, it is odd, like you look at I
look at Mike McDaniel on the sidelines with the Dolphins.
I'm like, this is the antithesis of what a coach
(32:50):
should be. Like he's just got like the biggest nerd
in the world. They put him as a coach of
the Dolphins and they suck the Dolphins. So it is odd,
I mean for me, but I mean, I'm getting older,
twos are you look at some of these guys, I'm like,
what is I mean? I don't I don't mind the
the zingers that he throws out. McDaniel, it just looks
like everything a coach is not supposed to be on
(33:11):
the sidelines, Like he's a little guy, should be a
ball boy or something like that. He's the head coach
of the Miami Dolphins, Like, how did that happen? It's like,
and it's going about as well as you would expect.
He's lost the locker room. You've got Tyreek Hill. He
has no control over any of the players in the
locker room, and he's an offensive guru who seems to
have no concept of anything else. That's going on, and
(33:32):
it's like anything hit and miss like these the next
generation like Sean McVay is part of that generation and
he's done really well with the Rams and he knows
what he's doing. He's you know, he's a NEPO baby
football family and all that. And Kyle Shannins had some success,
although has him been able to win the big one
for the forty nine ers. It is the Ben Mahler Show.
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So former Cheating ass one one thousand and two with
that hole Alex Bregman homerd in his first first play apparance.
Here was also booed, which I always amusing you know
it's like that one of the central figures in the
cheating scandals. But he's wearing red Sox laundry, so they
boot him. So Alex Bregman Homer and his first plate
appearance as a visitor in the place where players love
(37:11):
to cheat, Houston or they won two dirty World Series.
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I'm the last player to Homer.
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Ivan the Terrible in Houston who sucks up to the
terrible local radio guys in Houston, says, keep booing and
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it is dirty. So I hope you appreciate that. Kelsey Mitchell,
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(37:58):
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No?
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Chris? What you got man? Welcome?
Speaker 8 (39:41):
Hey, thanks, I've got a little MLB kind of wanted
your opinion, and you know, it seems like you's like
teams in MLB, the top half are pretty competitive, the
bottom half just they're just kind of there. I'm kind
of curious about why that huge split seems to be
so strong, and then also may be connected to it.
(40:03):
In the NL, how can we be in just only
the second week of August and there's only three players
in the entire league hitting over three hundreds?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
All right, Well, I'll do the second point first.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
I thank you, Chris. So nobody cares about batting average.
All the teams are run by these same dogma, the nerds.
They don't care about batting average. They think you're a
boomer if you worry about batting average. And as far
as the teams that are good and the teams that
are bad, the haves and the have nots, teams like
the Rockies and the White Sox and the Nationals and
the Pirates, they're not even trying to win.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
That's the ugly secret about baseball. They don't even try.
That's the problem.
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It's our number one, our number one, and let the
fun begin. On this Tuesday, the twelfth day of August.
So here in our number one, John Gruden, John Gruden,
he has won a round against the NFL in court.
What are your thoughts on these latest developments. We'll get
(00:24):
into the nitty gritty on that. Also, where does the
NFL go now to avoid being publicly panched by the
old Bucks and Raiders coach John Gruden in this legal case?
And what kind of package deal could get the old
NFL coach John Gruden to take a settlement from Roger Goodell.
(00:45):
We'll cover all all of the downs right now here.
It is our number one.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
A case of child's play.
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We have to worry about the show right now. And
the show right now is this? We react to this?
What is this? If you did not hear, maybe not,
maybe you're not following the Nevada court system. But it
(02:47):
turns out that a Nevada court has cleared the way
for a lawsuit that goes back not one, not two,
not three, but four years. Go back to the year
twenty twenty one. A lot of craziness, a lot of
people wearing masks and not going out and weird stuff
going on. But in twenty twenty one, there was a
lawsuit filed by John Gruden. Now you know that is
(03:10):
that's an old NFL coach, John Gruden, he coached the Raiders. Yeah,
so John Gruden file lawsuit where a court Nevada has
announced that that lawsuit now can proceed against the National
Football League and Commissioner Roger the Dodger, Goodell Roger, the Dodger,
(03:31):
who normally dodges these type of lawsuits. Now, that suit
alleged that a malicious and orchestrated campaign was used by
the NFL to destroy John Gruden's career. You might remember
the NFL famously strategically leaking all the emails that he
had sent, including the things that hit all the big ones, racism,
(03:56):
misogynistic activity, homophobic comments, the big three right there by
John Gruden and all the emails that were strategically leaked
by the NFL.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
That's the claim.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So the Nevada Supreme Court, that's right, the Nevada Supreme Court,
did they cover area fifty one. Also, they ruled five
to two. What even close? Five to two was the ruling.
And they said that the arbitration clause in the NFL
constitution is let's just say non kosher, that's my term
(04:29):
for it. But it does not apply to John Gruden.
They claimed as a former employee, that Gruden was not
an employee of the NFL at the time the emails
were sent. There for he is not under the bylaws
of the NFL. Now Gruden, his lawyers react to the NFL.
Their lawyers they declined comment on this particular rule, did
(04:53):
not comment, did not comment. John Gruden's lawyer say that
this will help quote hold the na fell accountable. Okay,
so let us discuss the question for the esteem panel.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
John Gruden.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Certainly this is a win, whether he wins the final battle,
this is a win at this point for John Gruden.
He wins this round. John Gruden winning this round against
the NFL in court. What are your thoughts on these
latest developments the Supreme Court of Nevada siding against against
the NFL and in favor of John Gruden. So I've
(05:32):
got the Jenga tower, Morgan Spurlock and cosplay and we
will combine all of these things together and put a
billboard up that says who hurt you?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Because every time I drive one by one of those,
I just want to laugh. I just laugh. I just chuckle.
I do uh.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Anyway, So my first thought on this and the latest
developments is the plot thickens.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Do do do do?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Do?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Do?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Do do do?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
It's finger byting time. It's finger byting time for the NFL.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Now.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I did send some correspondence out to people that work
in that world. They don't seem too concerned. They don't
seem too concerned. It's that hubris of the NFL. Wow,
we'll ultimately win this. It's just going to delay the inevitable.
So I would argue, though there is some finger biting
going on because you don't know what you don't know,
and for right now, with worry about right now, this
(06:28):
is a seismic shift the NFL was not counting on
to the world order of the National Football League. John Gruten,
the guy who they tried to have disappear from the
face of the earth, is back. Yeah, and he's got
a for now, a wrecking ball, a wrecking ball in
(06:51):
his hand. It's like a Hollywood special World's Collide, World's collide.
You got the little guy, the disgraced former hero John
Gruden who comes back from the dead, comes back from
the dead, and now now he's got the villain, a big,
big football, big NFL on the ropes. It's if you
(07:14):
combine like Rocky and then you're throw in some sopranos
in there.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It's got a little bit of that, a little bit
of that.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Roger Goodell is in danger of getting the bitter taste
of his own medicine. Like the NFL tried to erase
John Gruden and now Goodell. You think there's anything in
his emails? You think Goodell sent any text messages that
might be considered I don't know, racist or misogynistic or homophobic.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Anywhere along the way.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I'm just asking, I don't know, maybe not. He's perfect,
He's the archangel. He would have never done anything like
that at all. The reason I bring that up is
because the discovery phase will be a hum dinger, a
hum Most knowledgeable people who have looked at the case
(08:05):
will tell you that it is more likely than not,
based on the prepondence of the evidence, that the NFL
leaked to hand picked, handpicked friends of the NFL that
are in that New York bubble, the Wall Street Journal
and the New York Times, the emails. Now, now Gruden
gets to go into discovery at this point, this is
(08:27):
where we are. He's gonna go in discovery and see
what skeletons ure he can find in the closets at
the NFL. And they have really big walk in closets,
I mean massive, And the whole wing of the house
is a closet and they man, is that a big closet.
(08:47):
They can go in there and snoop around. And so
at this point, Gruden not just knocking on the door.
He's not knocking on the door. He's got the keys
and he's gonna he's gonna have all the lights on, turnable,
all on, go through everything. And it's not just about
John Gruden and some dirty emails. This is about the
(09:10):
entire power structure of the NFL. And that's why this
is so fascinating. This f's everything up. They for years
have had a choke hold on anyone that dares fight them.
And this is a look behind the curtain. If it
goes the way it's going right now, where John Gruden
can reveal a lot of warts, a lot of interesting
(09:34):
imperfections in the NFL world. And so the Nevada Supreme Court,
in so many words i'll sum it up, told the
NFL you cannot be both the judge and the jury.
That's essentially what they said. That's how I interpret it.
You can't have your sock puppet Commissioner Roger Goodell arbitrayed
(09:56):
a case where he's one of the defendants in the case.
That's not how you do this here. And it's so simple,
yet it is so beautiful at the same time. I
don't know what your position is. My position is. It's simple,
it's logical, and it's beautiful. It's kind of like in
(10:16):
some shady neighborhood boxing match and you find out that
you're watching the boxing match and it just turns out
that the referee in the boxing match happens to be
the uncle of the fighter who won the boxing match,
Like just a coincidence, you know, it's just a weird thing.
So the league's very bedrock, the very bedrock of the NFL,
(10:37):
is built on this, and so they do whatever they
want whenever they want in NFL circles.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And if you don't like it, and you want to
go to.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Court and all that stuff, you can take it to
their little kangaroo court and they always win.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
They always win.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It's like going to Moscow and suing the government in Russia. Okay,
you can do that. You're not going to win. You're
not gonna win. And so now the whole wobbly Jenga tower,
the whole giant Jenga tower, is shaking.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
A little bit. It's shaking a little bit right now.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Gruden has for now, because of this Supreme Court in Nevada,
he has kicked one of the main legs of the
Jenga tower and he's he's kind of kicked it down
a little bit. So the NFL is essentially a mob family, right,
I mean, in so many words my understanding of what
the old mob was. And it's still mobs around and
all that, but essentially the mob, right, they do things,
(11:36):
but they don't do things by the book, and they've
got their own book there. And the great Brent Musburger
Hall of Fame broadcaster Brent Musburg you're looking live, Brent
Musburger said of John Gruden. He was the Raider radio
play by play guy at the time all this went down.
And Musburger said of John Gruden's removal as the Raiders coach,
(11:57):
he called it, this is Brent Musburger, a guy worked
in the NFL since.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Like the sixties.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
He said, professional hit job. That's Brent Musburger. Hall of
Famer Brent Musburger said the NFL took down John Gruden
on a professional hit job by a paid assassin. Is
how Musburger said it. They didn't use the usual media goombas. Now,
the usual media gumbas are state sponsored NFL media, the
(12:22):
network the NFL gets sold to ESPN or anyone works
at ESPN who's in the tank for the NFL. So instead,
as we mentioned, they went to the Wall Street Journal,
They went to the New York Times, That's where they
went to. And so now the tables have turned. So
they've turned, and the NFL peeps, we would imagine we're
gonna start singing like canaries some of the people involved
(12:43):
in this if it gets to the discovery phase, because
emails will get exposed and text messages and they're going
to try to do the old cya cover your ass,
and that's what everyone does now. Page two. So where
where does the NFL go now? To avoid publicly being
pansd publicly being pansd by John Gruden in the discovery
(13:08):
phase of a court case. So what does the NFL
do here? So they have to get out the manny
and the petty. They have to give the many in
the petty discotus. That is where this is going. Next,
the NFL will file a formal appeal, which means lawyers
will get some more money. They're on retainer anyway. So
the NFL is gonna file a formal petition I guess,
(13:28):
not really appeal, but petition for appeal, which is an appeal,
but it's a petition for a So they're going to
file a petition to the United States Supreme Court, the
highest court in the land. And if the Supreme Court
does not take the case, and they don't take most cases,
they don't take most cases a right, or if they
(13:51):
do take the case and they rule in favor of
John Gruden, meaning the NFL loses loser capitalel, that means
it is on like don't get Kong. We're talking about
the discovery phase. So listen to the NFL. I mentioned
i'd put some feelers out and I just I got
the early vibe I got was Hubris. That's my word,
(14:13):
that not their word. But there's an arrogance that they're
gonna win in the Supreme Court and all that stuff.
The NL is not stupid. They're not smart, but they're
not stupid, and they know that the discovery phase will
be a blood bath for them and if we get there,
and so they're gonna try to cut it off at
the pass if they have to. Now they assume they're
(14:34):
gonna win because they'll just do what everyone does in
these cases and a massage from some politicians and.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
That's how it goes.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
And then at the other side of it, the other
option would be to work out of court settlement with
John Gruden a big bag of cash. I'm talking the
late Morgan Spurlock and supersize me. I'm talking John Gruden's
lawyers cooking up what do you want, John? You want
thirty forty fifty million dollars whatever you want. The NFL
(15:03):
is gonna pay it. You know, it's a tax for
the NFL. They'll pay it. And Gruden, you know, he
had said the quote that it keeps coming up is
he wants to burn the house down. So he's going
to tell them to shove it. You would assume, right,
I don't need your money. I got enough. Gruden's rich.
You paid way too much money to do bad television
(15:24):
and all that. So he's got a lot of money.
So if it's not about the money, it's about your reputation,
it's about the principle. And he was humiliated and all
that stuff, and he wants his pound a flash, And
then what's the NFL going to do? You know, he
can't settle. Gruden cannot settle, right, he can't do that.
The NFL made sure that he was radioactive. So what
(15:48):
Gruden could do is make Roger Goodell radioactive. There is
a scenario where Gruden, this lawsuit goes forward, Goodell ends
up losing his job as the commissioner of the NFL.
That there's definitely some skeletons there somewhere if you dig
deep enough in those nice walking closets, and you.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Can get rid of Roger Goodell.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
And so at this point, John Gruden's got the league
by the balls. He's got him by the balls. And
just like the man said a famous quote, what do
you do when you've got him by the balls? You
squeeze and you keep squeezing until their hearts and minds
follow and there you go. You're on your way. Good
(16:28):
luck on that, all right? Now, the last word on this.
We'll put the baby to bed on this, John Gruden.
So you will get your calls if you want to
react to it, and comments and all that. But what
kind last word here? What kind of a package de leioh,
What kind of a package deal could get John Gruden
who has said that he wants and again his quote was,
(16:49):
he wants to burn the house down? So what kind
of package deal could get John Gruden to take a
settlement from the NFL As a distant relative of Nostre
Damis and friend of Nostradinas.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
He lives in Seattle. He doesn't really react to the
show very much anymore.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
But I've done the investigative work. I've done the investigative work.
So we're talking about Roger Goodell doing some cosplay in
this world that I believe in the multiverse. So in
this part of the multiverse, there's some cosplay, and Roger
Goodell he addresses up as the old Hollywood star Marlon
(17:25):
Brando from back in the day in The Godfather and says,
I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse John Gruden,
and it's about Gruden getting back in the game. The
money's one thing. Gruden not needing the money.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
He's rich.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
He's made a lot of money for a long time,
so he's financially set in that regard. In the multiverse, though,
you get not only the cartoon sized check for say,
fifty million dollars, that's after taxes, after taxes, fifty million dollars.
You look around. You got Pete Carroll who's beginning his
(18:00):
his first year with the team in Las Vegas, and
he's the oldest coach in the NFL. He clearly has
lost it. He brought Geno Smith in, who sucks as
the Raiders quarterback. So and we like Pete. Pet's you
a nice guy and all that, Pollyanna Pete. However, however,
John Gruden, what's the one thing he would love to
(18:21):
have more than anything. The job that he had that
he thought he was gonna have for another seven or
eight years. He signed that ten year contract to be
the coach of the Raiders. So John Gruden, with that
big creasy smile on his face from ear to ear,
cheshire cat smile, heads back to Sin City coach of
(18:44):
the Raiders, and Goodell can make it happen. Is Alison,
do us a solid here. We'll give you the money.
We'll get you the Raider coaching job. In fact, we'll
get you.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Whatever job you want in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
You want, what job do you want? It makes too
much sense. John Gruden returning his coach of the Raiders.
And you can see it now, the charismatic John Gruden said,
by Gunes be Bygones back on the sidelines there with
Mark Davis giving him a hug. They go out to
dinner at PF. Chang's and they get the orange chicken.
They have a great time. Remember Mark Davis said he
(19:17):
never wanted to get rid of John Grudin In fact,
if I remember Correfty doing the show and being in
the Watchdower at that time. The first email dump happened
on like a Thursday or a Friday, the John Gruden
email dump. Gruden coached the Raiders against the Chicago Bears,
and then a second a second wave of emails were
(19:41):
dumped because the first one didn't work. So whoever at
the NFL, in my opinion, can't sue me for my opinion.
Some of the NFL said, all right, this didn't work.
We got more email, send those out to the other
newspaper that we don't normally do business with, and you know,
we'll take down.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And that worked. The second one worked. That's it. He
was gone.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
But Mark Davis didn't want to get rid of John Gruden.
He was forced to, so he can. Goodell can unforce
it and bring him back and save his own ass
at the same time, because there's stuff in those emails
for Goodell that he'd be gone and Gruden can stick
it to the NFL's here.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I'm back. What are you gonna do now? I'm back?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
And of course I don't think it's a pipe tree.
I don't believe it's a piper. This is John Gruden's
ultimate revenge. So either you tear down the entire league,
get rid of Goodell and a bunch of other executives
because you release the emails, or you take NFL money
fifty million, let's say maybe it's more than that. They
have going low at fifty million, and you take the
money and then you get whatever NFL coaching gob you on.
(20:45):
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(21:06):
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overnight the Malard Meet and Greet Sins City. August twenty third,
we will be in Vegas. All of us will be
(22:59):
in Vegas, and that'll be in the afternoon on a Saturday.
So the way we do this is it our guy
Slug is the hostess with the mostes. He sets it
up and So the meet and greet will take place
at the Steakout Bar and Grill. That's forty eight hundred
south of Maryland Park, what's right near UNLV in Vegas there,
So we'll be there from three till five, so you
(23:21):
have a chance to stay out all night on Friday,
get completely hammered, just completely s faced.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Vegas, Baby Vegas.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
You can then recover by three o'clock. You can then
wear sunglasses and hang out till five o'clock and then
go back out and commit other acts of debauchery. So
that is why we do that from three to five.
We might be a little longer than that, but three
to five. So the malor meet and greet coming.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Up in Vegas August twenty third, That is a Saturday,
so we hopefully Vegas, hope you can make it back
to it.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
We go and begin with John Gruden, the John Gruden
mal Monologue, Scrooge says, as a Raider fan, the Gruden
story is irrelevant until he's back where he belongs as
a head coach of our Raiders. Although Gruden is the
same guy who thought Nathan Peterman was a good quarterback,
you'll probably think he can win a Super Bowl with
(24:19):
Gino Smith. Well, if you remember Scrooge, when John Gruden
was doing Monday Night Football, he essentially gave well I
think I don't think I can say what he gave
to quarterbacks, but he was very giving. We called him
knee pat John Gruden because he really made the quarterbacks
feel good.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I have no idea, but yeah, anyway, Late Night Drug
Tester writes in from parts on non he says, with
the Gruden case moving forward, for now, is helmet Man
going to wait twenty years before breaking down the video
of the court proceedings. We can only hope that we
hear from Helmet Man with a full breakdown on that.
(25:00):
And we can also have Bill from Korea Town give
some legal advice as well'd be great. Ferk Dog says,
admit it been the Dodgers running into the Angels in
the World Series is your worst nightmare. The Halos have
the boys in blues number scoring for this is my nightmare.
(25:20):
Very concerned, very concerned about the Angels. The good thing
about the Angels beating you up is you never have
to face them in the playoffs, so it doesn't matter.
Marked A full name guy marked the full name guy right, sinces.
I've been saying for years the NFL has been covering
up some of their dirty deeds. Done dirt cheap. Oh,
I see you're quoting music network. A business model that
(25:42):
Big Blank joined at the hip with the media can
certainly spin some yarn. Well, there's no question you get
in business with the media companies. You're in good shape
there for sure. Femi from Minnesota, the number one uber
eats delivery guy in Minnesota, says, delivering sandwiches around twin
(26:02):
cities and listening to the show, he says, great monologue,
Ben justice for John Gruden, the Roger Goodell mob family
did coach bad Ben?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Any chance?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Goodell gets on the phone and begs John Gruden for mercy. Well,
we could make a movie, Fami, Why don't we make
a movie that could be one of the scenes in
the movie that'd be good. Mister Irrigation the legend, mister Irrigation,
the ring. We should call him ring Daddy instead of
mister Irrigation, call him ring Daddy. So mister Irrigation says,
(26:32):
how deep can the arbitration issue go?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
In other words, could.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
The system be in jeopardy of being sued for the
past cases that have been illegally arbitrated in US null
and void Commissioner Gruden, So as I understand it, mister irrigation.
The mean point that Gruden has is he was not
employed by the NFL at the time those emails were sent.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
He was a Monday night.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Football broadcast, And while broadcasters are approved by the NFL,
you had to understand that they don't put people on
who aren't nice to the NFL and don't tickle the
belly of the NFL. However, not employees, not employees of
the actual NFL.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Therefore, that's a little bit of a.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Separation point, separation point, and a nature boy answering the
Call to the Wild says, what if it turns out
that Roger Goodell is the Donald Sterling in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Now that would be bad.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, Brock writes and says, Jerry Jones, the face of
the NFL is the biggest reason the Cowboys are more
popular than ever despite no Super Bowls in thirty years.
That's what we call a non sequitor from Brock. That's
a you're not on topic, Brock. I don't am I
gonna talk about the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I don't even know. I feel like every day I
talk about the Cowboys every single day. I think you
could talk about them a bit more.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Ben.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
You know, they are America's team and we are into broadcast.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh is that right? And who's the head coach of
the Cowboys right now? I'm not one guy, Jim.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Jim Jim Jim Bob Jim Bob as the coach of
the Cowboys. Supermarket Steve says, I don't see your rundown,
the Houston cheating asstro players returning to the scene of
the crime in Houston, or anything about my Yankees having
those twins come to town, which pretty much guarantees them
their first series win in over a month. And uh again,
(28:26):
Supermarket Steve is getting older, and I guess you know
he's got some issues there with his uh you know,
finding the rundown. I know it's it's big tech. It's hard,
Supermarket Steve. You know you're trying to put the command
the can of tomato soup on the on the aisle there.
It's hard to keep track everything. Let's go with the
phones and let's say hello to any meanie Mighty Mo.
(28:46):
Let's say hello to Big Mike, who is in Sin City. Hello,
Big Mike, welcome, welcome, real.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
Smatched it then nice to uh get on the line
with you.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
This is my topic and selective prosecution really gets me upset,
much like Aaron Brockovi and PG and E round one
when they offered nothing and PG and E attorneys go,
don't you know we're worth eighty six billion dollars and
(29:20):
ed MASKI said.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Really, we're going to go for so much more now.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
John Bruden is going to clean their clock financially. I'm
talking Northern of a half a billion dollars easily, because look.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
At all the people that had a dot NFL and
a dot ESPN email. They don't want to be exposed
in discovery and they can't be that.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
They don't want to be They don't want to be exposed. However,
you have to do. You have to factor in like
it seems like that's gonna be. Remember Colin Kaepernick took
a check and everyone said he had the goods on
the NFL too, and he took he took a hush hush,
he took a payout and he went away. So yeah,
he had no good Well, people said he had goods.
Don't you say he had no goods. There were people
said he had they had the goods, the whole thing.
(30:21):
There were text messages there too.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
A B l M basket of of of nonsense. But
this is real, real selective prosecution against For nine years,
all they went after was John Gruden and his relationship
and only his emails against the Washingtons soon to be
(30:44):
renamed back to the red Skins and the point.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Love your all right, thank you, Mike all it's good,
and you'll be. We're in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
You're gonna be there right August twenty third, you're gonna
stop by, all right, Well it's.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Good, be good to see. That's all right, Well you'll be.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I'll be holding court there, big micd in Vegas, checking in.
Let's go to one who's in Pennsylvania? And one is next?
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
One?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Welcome?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Hey, how's the gone?
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Guys?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, what's on your mind?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Well?
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I wanted to say that I'm not really worried or
concern about like the amount that brewing could potentially get
in the payoffs if that happens. I was really gonna
say that I'm more concerned about where the NFL is
heading as far as coaching wise, people don't realize that
(31:37):
Crudin is still a part of the old guard of coaches, Like,
you know, he won a throw bolts twenty four years ago,
twenty three years ago, And see a lot of these
young assistants being hard, a lot of these young coach
being hard, whether it's because of coaching pedigree or just
new styles and dealing with the type of players that
we have in today's league.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
So I don't.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Necessarily think that he'll have the kind of leverage that's
gonna be able to place it back in the league
unless it's with literally just the Raiders. I kind of
feel like he'll get that Phil Belichick treatment when it
comes to that. And you know, we're on the last
like of these old coaches. You know, he's gonna retire soon.
Tom is gonna be out his way on his way
(32:20):
out to throw with Pittsburgh. It's probably Peril's last stand.
So I just wanted to hear what you thought about
all that.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, No, I mean, just Gruden is older now and
so that is a factor. But he's buddies with a
lot of these these owners. They like him because he's
you know, they watched him on television so they're fans
of John Gruden and all that. Uh, the the young
guard though, it is odd, like you look at I
look at Mike McDaniel on the sidelines with the Dolphins.
I'm like, this is the antithesis of what a coach
(32:50):
should be. Like he's just got like the biggest nerd
in the world. They put him as a coach of
the Dolphins and they suck the Dolphins. So it is odd,
I mean for me, but I mean, I'm getting older,
twos are you look at some of these guys, I'm like,
what is I mean? I don't I don't mind the
the zingers that he throws out. McDaniel, it just looks
like everything a coach is not supposed to be on
(33:11):
the sidelines, Like he's a little guy, should be a
ball boy or something like that. He's the head coach
of the Miami Dolphins, Like, how did that happen? It's like,
and it's going about as well as you would expect.
He's lost the locker room. You've got Tyreek Hill. He
has no control over any of the players in the
locker room, and he's an offensive guru who seems to
have no concept of anything else. That's going on, and
(33:32):
it's like anything hit and miss like these the next
generation like Sean McVay is part of that generation and
he's done really well with the Rams and he knows
what he's doing. He's you know, he's a NEPO baby
football family and all that. And Kyle Shannins had some success,
although has him been able to win the big one
for the forty nine ers. It is the Ben Mahler Show.
(33:53):
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Speaker 2 (34:55):
Game?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
And here we go. Former cheating a astro Alex Bregman,
now home for the Red Sox, homered in his first
plate appearance as a visitor, playing in the den of
cheaters there in Houston where he won two Dirty World Series.
I'm the last player to homer in their first career
(35:18):
road played appearance against the team they previously won two
or more World Series with.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Who am I? That is the question? The answer. We'll
get to it. We will do it next.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
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Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
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(35:56):
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Speaker 2 (36:48):
That's right to who am I Game?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
So former Cheating ass one one thousand and two with
that hole Alex Bregman homerd in his first first play apparance.
Here was also booed, which I always amusing you know
it's like that one of the central figures in the
cheating scandals. But he's wearing red Sox laundry, so they
boot him. So Alex Bregman Homer and his first plate
appearance as a visitor in the place where players love
(37:11):
to cheat, Houston or they won two dirty World Series.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I'm the last player to Homer.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
In their first career road played appearance against the team
they previously won two or more World series with.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Who am I? That is the question? What is the answer?
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Let's see does anyone know anyone at all in the
mallad militia.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Let's see. We'll check the goofy.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Answers that you all send in every day. Let's see
Ivan the Terrible in Houston who sucks up to the
terrible local radio guys in Houston, says, keep booing and
we keep homering. Yes, and it doesn't matter whatever you do,
it is dirty. So I hope you appreciate that. Kelsey Mitchell,
I have no idea who that is. That's from Shane
in des Moines. He man from Alf the alien opiner?
(37:58):
What about skeletor dude? Come on Alf? Who else you have?
Jacoby Brissett guests by Shane. We've got Scottie Small's from
Scrooge in.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
The Bay Area.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
The Kingfish, Tim Salmon from ferg Dog Podres legend. Steve
Garvey from Mister Irrigation Day. He's wearing his Taco bell
outfit there. Brian Boitano from Robin, Minnesota. The Great Rob
met him at the Mala Meat greet we did in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
A while back.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Peppermint Patty from Just Josh and Cincinnati, Buck Rogers, the
Old Angels Manager TV Star from Milkman Mike in Colorado,
Jim Tomay from Andy and Lino Lakes, Minnesota. Jeff Blum
or Bloom from Mister Nice Guy, Herman Munster Legendary Dodger
Herman Munster from Eileen Chris Middleton, who is thirty four
(38:47):
today from the Late Night Drug Tester Gil Hodges guests
by I forty Ian. That's as Julio Franco from Andrew
in the Bay Area. The Great Mister t Guess by
nature Boy Jack Reruns from Bill Femi in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Going with the Roger Goodell.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Jacobe Ellsbury for My Yankees against the Red Sox from Supermarket.
Steve Mike from New Hampshire is going with the Great
Adam Oates as his answer.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Do you have an answer the Ray?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Now, yes, Ben, I'm gonna go with pee wee Reese.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Is it pee wee rees?
Speaker 1 (39:23):
No?
Speaker 3 (39:24):
The correct answer the Duke Duke Snyder with the New
York Metropolitans against the Dawyers on May twenty second, nineteen
sixty three, nineteen sixty three. I scored the phones. Chris
is in sokel what's going on?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Chris? What you got man? Welcome?
Speaker 8 (39:41):
Hey, thanks, I've got a little MLB kind of wanted
your opinion, and you know, it seems like you's like
teams in MLB, the top half are pretty competitive, the
bottom half just they're just kind of there. I'm kind
of curious about why that huge split seems to be
so strong, and then also may be connected to it.
(40:03):
In the NL, how can we be in just only
the second week of August and there's only three players
in the entire league hitting over three hundreds?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
All right, Well, I'll do the second point first.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
I thank you, Chris. So nobody cares about batting average.
All the teams are run by these same dogma, the nerds.
They don't care about batting average. They think you're a
boomer if you worry about batting average. And as far
as the teams that are good and the teams that
are bad, the haves and the have nots, teams like
the Rockies and the White Sox and the Nationals and
the Pirates, they're not even trying to win.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
That's the ugly secret about baseball. They don't even try.
That's the problem.
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