May 12, 2025 • 40 mins
Ben Maller talks about the Pacers steamrolling the Cleveland Cavaliers to take a 3-1 lead in the East Semifinals, if it was more about the Pacers dominance or the Cavs incompetence, Jayson Tatum getting called out for stealing Kawhi Leonard's celebration, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here we go. Welcome, It's our numb bur w our
number one of the original Recipe podcast. Happy Monday to you.
It is the twelfth day of May. We stayed up
all night to provide you with this fresh pod. Yeah,
we did this for you, not because we got paid
for it. We did it for you and I hope
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you had a great Mother's Day weekend. Here in our
number one was we'll start with basketball. Was this game
more about the Pacers dominance or the calves and competence?
Blowout City in the NBA playoffs? Also down three to
one in the Eastern Conference semi finals. How much trouble
are the Donovan Mitchell's calves in? I'll also take a
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look at Mitchell's injury status. Celtics star Jason Tatum is
now getting called out after fans have accused him of
stealing Kawhi Leonard's celebration. How do you evaluate this one?
We'll talk about that and much more right now as
you settle in. This is just our one. There's three
more hours ago after this, but here it is our
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hour is from the pro Bouncy Ball Playoffs playoffs. Uh yeah. Now,
normally the anticipation is what both teams are going to
show up and they're going to compete. We've had some
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real does. We had a stretch of amazing NBA playoff
games and the last couple of days some no shows,
some no shows, and that is our lead. Here will
start out in the Hoosier State. The late game on
Mother's Day, Game four of the Eastern Conference Semifinals. Donovan Mitchell,
Spider Mitchell, he's aw he's so guided. Uh you tell
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the stats are great, Spider Mitchell, but his teams never
do anything going back to days with the Utah jess.
So there is Spider Mitchell, the Cavaliers trying to even
things up against the Indiana Pacers. That was the nightcap,
the late game. And was it worth a watch? No,
I don't know if you were watching or not. It was.
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I mean I was, but I have no choice. Part
of the job. You're supposed to be part of the job.
Pascal Siakam got to make sure I say that name right.
Thanks to our friend Marcel and Brooklyn. Pascal Siakam twenty
one points. The Pacers never trailed. This is a Harvard
boat race situation. They led by over forty and halftime
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they tied the record for the biggest halftime lead in
playoff history. They were about forty one points, and they
added on to that. They were a by forty four
points at one point. They win one twenty nine to
one oh nine, a twenty point win, which was not
indicative how the game was actually played. So they get
it done. The Pacers are now up three games to
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one in the Eastern Conference semifinals. Upstart Indiana and the
Calves had their guys. They were there and they didn't
show up. My god, all right, So let us discuss
the question for the esteem panel here as you look
at that Pacers and Calves game. Was this game more
about the global domination of the Indiana Pacers who took
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a can of what pass to the Cleveland basketball team?
Or was it by the total systemic incompetence of the Cavaliers.
So my thoughts on this, I have Nike, good doctor,
and feline, and we'll combine all of these things together
and we are going to make delicious breadsticks. Is what
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we're gonna make. So a my default position, my default position,
which rarely changed out, does change everyone's one every once
in a while. I will go away from my default position.
By my default position is what that's right. My default
position is most games are lost, they're not one. The
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better story is in the losing locker room. That has
been my position, that will continue to be my position.
And on this game, I'm not changing my position. As
good as the Pacers played, and they were running and gunning,
and the Calves were stumbling and bumbling, but that's because
of the Cavs stumbling in public. The Cavs were not
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only an NBA team, they were terrible. As the lion
goes right, there's really no other way to say. And
that's an understatement. I will maintain till my last breath
in this mortal coil that it is impossible. There's not
that big a gap between teams. If both teams are
playing competent basketball, you're never going to have a game
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end up where one team has a forty point lead
over No, it's certainly not a playoff game. But Wausers,
it's an understatement to say they were terrible. They were
worse than terrible. It was a tortch level, uninspired performance.
And you know that means. That means, as John Tortorelli
so famously said the hockey coach, they sucked from head
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to toe. They sucked at a time you cannot suck,
which is when the game started. Cleveland playing like they
were play a regular season game, and it was the
end of a road trip and they wanted to get
back and they had a lot on their mind. They
played in second gear. Then you have Spider Mitchell out there.
You had in the first half, you had Spider Mitchell,
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he was out there. Darius Garland, Evan Mobley, those are
the three horsemen of the apocalypse for the Cavaliers. Here
the headliners in the land, and they played toothless. They
played gutless basketball in the first half. If you were
to describe it as a item, it would be a
dirty diaper performance, a dirty diaper performance. They were out
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hustled by the Pacers and as a result, Indiana made
some shots and then the snowball effects started taking place
where there was a here and a push there, and
the Calves did not respond and they were essentially the
Cleveland Cavaliers were play though, right, They were play though
for the Pacers there they were putty in the hands
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of the Indiana basketball team and Cleveland, I'm pretty sure
they had this new concept sneaker from Nike, the air
cement shoe. They looked like, did it look I don't
mean maybe you didn't see the game or didn't hear
the game, or you I mean, you're just taking my
my brilliant analysis. But I'm telling you we've seen this
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several times over the last week where one team looks
like they're playing a totally different game at a totally
different speed. Cleveland was in second gear and the Pacers
were not, and all the effort all that, like the
calves were weighted down, they were utterly ineffective, and like
all the effort plays went in favor of Indiana. And
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then by the time Cleveland woke up, the game was
already over, so it didn't really matter at that point.
But you look at the fifty to fifty balls, Oh
that's picked. Always love those fifty to fifty balls. But
points in the paint, second chance points, the fast break statistic,
all those different stats within stats all went in favor
of Indiana. Now, page two, So you're down three to
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one in the Eastern Conference semi finals. How much trouble
are the Donovan Mitchell caves in at this point? So
here's the issue, Right, they're not gonna win this series.
Indiana Pacers are gonna win this series. Their fighting history
is what they're doing the Cavaliers. Right, I'm declaring the
Pacers are going to win. That's a bold take. Up
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three to one. Now NBA teams leading three to one
in a best of seven series, It's happened two hundred
and ninety three times that have finished the series, and
of those two hundred ninety three times, two hundred and
eighty of the times it has gone the way of
the team up three to one, which my computer like
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tells me is a ninety six percent winning percentage. We
round up ninety five point six, we round up to
ninety six percent, so ninety six percent in favor of
the team up three to one winning. Now, that tells
you what has happened, not what's going to happen. Now,
even though Indiana's going to win this series, let's just
try to help out the Cavaliers. Why not, let's help
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out the cavaliers. So what does Cleveland need to turn
things around? The answer is a good doctor, and not
because of Spider Mitchell and his situation. We'll get to
that in a minute. Not because of that. No, No,
what they need is Rick Carlile to catch the neural virus. Okay,
this is the key. I thought this all out. Okay,
as I had a long drive, there's a lot of
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traffic for some I do an overnight sho Why is
there traffic? It should be traffic. It was like Mother's
Day traffic coming in. I do an over nation. Why
why would they be? I don't get it anyway, So
I had a lot of time to think as I
was making my way in. And if Rick Carlile can
get the neural virus and for some reason the Pace
don't elevate an assistant they bring in. They get the
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Bucks to fire Doc Rivers, which hasn't happened yet. Then
they bring Doc Rivers in as the interim coach. Then
then the Calves are in really good shape, right, doctor, doctor,
give me the news.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Doc Rivers by himself is responsible for almost twenty five
percent of the choke jobs up three to one where
a team blew it in NBA history. One man, one man,
stands atop all of the men when it comes to
blowing series up three to one. Doc Rivers the only
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NBA coach with multiple blown three to one leaves. He's
done three of those masterpieces in his career. That's twenty
three percent of all three to one series blown in
NBA history. Nobody else has done it more than once.
Doc Rivers, and he's still getting a checked. He's still
getting a check in the NBA. I digress. So Cleveland
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just do better, be better. You're gonna lose any way,
But who cares? All right now? Donovan Mitchell his injury
the cherry on top of the crap tastics on it.
But is it a real injury or is it? My god,
we're getting our ass kicked. I don't feel like playing.
I'm going to say I'm out. I haven't. He's gonna
have an MRI. So that means it's real. Okay, it's
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it's real, Sure it is. Why not? But here's the problem.
Even with the numbers Mitchells put up, he didn't do
anything in the first half, nobody did for the Calves,
and he's had some big playoff games. Here's some big
stat lines. It's it. I got the vibe. It's like
it's Dak Prescott, like like the numbers look good, but
you just don't not in the context of winning. I
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get that vibe from Donovan Mitchell. I had the same
vibe when he was in Utah. It's like he's a
good stat guy. But it doesn't really seem to matter
all that much. All right now? Last word, So over
the weekend. Honestly, maybe can rehash the the Celtics Knicks game,
but I like, eh, there's really nothing there. The Celtics
molly wopped the Knicks. It wasn't a total blowout and
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all that, but the Celtics in a make or miss league,
they made their three point shots that they'd missed all
of them. It seemed at back in Boston and then
Madison Square Garden, different garden, different garden, party, and they
were making So there's not a lot to dissect on that.
If they make them, the Knicks have no chance. It's
forget about it now. Jason Tatum, though, this is a
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good talk. So I don't know if he saw it
or not, but Jason Tatum is getting called out for
something that he did. I guess he's actually been doing it,
but it got more attention in the game against the Knickerbockers.
He's been accused by internet investigators of stealing stealing another
star players celebration. That's right, Jason Tatum has been put
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on blast. The astro blasters are out because Jason Tatum
taking the proprietary blend of Kawhi Leonard and his celebration.
So how do you avoweight the accusations, the charges against
Jason Tatum for stealing another star players celebratory act. All right,
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So I looked at this. I put this in the
Petri dish. I dusted off the Malard microscope to look
at it. And in honor of Jerry Jones, we decided
to circumcise the mosquito and take a deep dive on it.
So we determined, based on the evidence that was available
to us, that Jason Tatum. We asked the question, what
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type of feline is Jason Tatum? You think of the
big cat. There's so many different breeds of cats. You've
got the Persian cat, the Bengal, the Siamese, the main
coon cat. You've got a lot of different cats out there, right,
But Jason Tatum is the It turns out he's the copycat.
That's what he is. Right again. I mean, I feel
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like we're back, maybe the finals when the Celtics won
last summer, and it was all about Jason Tatum's lack
of originality. After the the Celtics won, and here we
are yet again, is on court antics with the Celtics.
Jason Tatum no ifs ands or butts about it. After
a thorough minutes long Mallor investigation, we have concluded beyond
a reasonable doubt that Jason Tatum absolutely mimicked the Clipper
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star Kawhi Leonard, his signature hand salute celebration that goes
all the way back to the San Antonio Spurs vintage
of Kawhi Leonard back in the day that twenty fourteen
spursed him. So it's over a decade old. Kawhi doesn't
do it as much anymore, but occasionally does it, and
he did it in Toronto. So there you go. Now
you can add this one to the list. You can
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add this one to the list. After remember then the
Celtics won the championship in O four. He Jason Tatum
being he recreated the Kevin Garnett anything Is Possible moment
like he had that he'd been watching that clip on
his phone before the game and he recreated that. He
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also po posed for the traditional finals photo after this championship,
and he very similar to the like he was ripping
off a Michael Jordan classic photo that goes way back
to early nineties, a long time ago. So it's fair
to say again Jason Tatum, the type of cat he
is he's a copycat and he likes to repurpose, recycle celebrations.
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And as the quote goes, imitation is the highest form
of flattery. Jason Tatum is a master at imitation. So
there's clearly some high flattery. Who will he copy next?
Stay tuned developing hot dot dot dot. All right, it
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So an NBA star was called out for been a
coward front runner coward player hid from the media like
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a coward would, but when the team wins, the players
right out in front with the smile on his face
and just the happiest guy in the world when team wins,
and when they lose, he of course hides, which really
feeds into my hypothesis that the better stories and losing
locker room because you never see anybody running hide when
they win a game. You see people running high when
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they lose a game. So we've got some audio. Will
play an NBA star hiding from the media and address
the media and addressed why he hid from the media.
He answered the question, why didn't you hide from the media.
We'll get to that. We'll do it. We'll take your calls,
the whole thing, and we will do it next.
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it talking about the NBA card, the Calves and no show,
and we'll get to the speaking of no show. Both
teams didn't show up in the first half of the Denver,
Indiana game or Denver an Oklahoma City game, and some
people email me literally got Jeff and Denver's gonna call up.
I bet he doesn't call up. They got smoked. He's
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not gonna go Okay, they ain't smoked. They didn't make
many shots and things are not looking particularly good for
the Nuggets, and he didn't call in. How about the Indiana?
Pacer crowd erupting with chance of we want we want Boston.
They want the cel They want that smoke from the
Celtics is what they want the Indiana. They're already done
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with Cleveland. They're ready to take on the Celtics and
take them up. Coming up in a couple of as
we had some audio. We're gonna play it for you
from a star player in the NBA who hid from
the media like a coward after a poor performance, and
then when they win, he's always out in front. That's
known as a show pony. That's known also as a
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front runner is what that's known as. Now, back in
the old days, we used to look down upon that.
But I know you were wokesters out. They love that
kind of thing. Apparently you're all into it, but I
still get annoyed by it. So let's go to the phones.
Let's say hello to Steve, who's in the OC and
he's up first. Hello, Steve, welcome.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Hey, how are you a short time?
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Long time?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Anyway?
Speaker 5 (20:16):
You know, I'm a big Catholic over here. We have
the greatest church, a little Hoaborough or Lady of Loupez.
But I know the new pope is from Chicago and
a big White Sox fan. You think before he goes
to bed and does his prayers or talks to the
other cardinals or is it the Vatican, he's gonna pray
for the White Sox to win a World Series.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Well, you would have to answer that better than me.
I would think, when you become the Pope, do you
have to give up your allegiance to the White Sox,
Like you're that's a high the highest position you can have, right,
Can you still be a White Sox fan?
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Is he going to be going out to the ballpark
eating nachos watching the White Sox as the Pope? I don't.
I don't think so, right, I think you got to
give that up.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I think they actually have footage of him going to a.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
White well yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. That was twenty
years ago. He was going. He was probably listening to
the show because we were on in Chicago twenty years ago.
After the White Sox won the World Series, so he
was probably a listener. But he's not, you know, he's
hanging out the Vatican. Maybe they'll build him a papal suite.
Is that what it's called? Papal sweet?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Is that the right word? I don't I'm not.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
I feel like it should be papel.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Do the White Sox have to Now, if you're a Catholic,
do you have to pull for the White Sox because
that's the Pope's team? Do we have to do we
need the White Sox to win if you're Catholic? That's
the question.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Well, I think they're going to show his face when
they you know, uh, you know, at the stretch, they're
going to show the Pope.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Well, has the Pope ever I don't know this, maybe
it's happened. Has the Pope ever thrown out the first
pitch at the baseball game?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Wow? They you know what?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Maybe you should text him or email him.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, I'm sure he'll answer Mike. Of course he'll answer
my and my message is right away, get right back
at the bottom of it.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah, as long as he took at Baba boo, I'm
sure he'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, Well, Baba booe. Well, Baba boys was off to
like the let But who was the other guy? Fifty cent? Right?
Didn't he throw one that was terrible too? He was
he throwing was pretty bad? He all right, well, thank you,
and I got I liked that you mentioned Baba boy.
That's good. That's a good that's a good. Thank you,
thank you? All right, go away, all right, that's just
what I want hot pope talk. That's right. Any other
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religious leaders we'd like to talk about anybody you know
one you want to bring up here.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Now, No, no, Ben, no.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
One knowing at all. You sure about that? You if
any pop in your head, just let me know. I
will break will break it down, break it down. There
you go about that.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
People are posting photos of like random people that before
this guy became the pope. I saw a bunch of
those over the weekend, Like you know, people were classmates
with this dude.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
And I think I'm sorry, I just think it's right.
I think pope seem to be European, right, Well, what
you're biased?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
You think what's wrong with the Chicago Pope? Great people
from Chicago.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Just like everyone.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
No, no, no, no, no, this is great. There's a whole
world out there. Come on. Yeah, but if you love
Europe so much, why don't you move there? While you
go there? Your anti American USA us myself in the fly,
we got an American pope. This is huge. Oh, this
is massive. Okay, you understand. I don't even know what
it means, but it's a big deal. I'm told Big.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Could be from America. I didn't even know because.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
There never been one big of all the little kids
that will grow up dream big, of the kids that
will grow up and be like, someday I could be
the pope, and they can literally be the pope. They
get little kids on playgrounds. You know, we used to
dream about being you know, the super Bowl heroes and
all that world series. But now the kids can dream
of being the pope.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
I used to want to catwoman. Yeah, maybe that is
still possible.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
It is.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
You know, if there's a subspecies out there of aliens
in the ocean that come up and give you cat
like powers, boom, you can become captain do it? Yeah? Absolutely? Uh.
Firk Dog says, I don't blame Jason Tatum for stealing
Kawhi Leander's hand salute celebration. Kawhi is a better player,
and he's a member of the premier franchise in the NBA.
The Clippers absolutely now, King Roy writes in from Wisconsin.
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He says he's not that far from Green Bay. Says
a good thing Coach of the Year award is a
regular season award, not including the playoffs playoffs because mister
Coach of the Year Kenny Atkinson is not living up
to the award's namesake. I believe the season award should
be announced between the conference finals and the finals. Well,
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you should send a letter to the Send a letter
over to the people in charge at the NBA. I'm
sure they'll conclude that. Supermarket Steve says, I can't believe
the Rockies fired their manager after a twenty one tohering loss,
a day after the GM claimed he had the respect
of the clubhouse. Was not on the rundown. We will
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address Bud Black. I don't know that's a lead story,
Supermarket Steve. If I know you want hot Rocky talk,
and who doesn't, that's also a sign you want me
to lose my job. Talking about the Colorado Rockies too
much is a sign that I'm probably gonna lose my job.
So screw you, but we will address that. We will
address that at some point down the line. What else
do we have to see? Page dan Uh. Slim Tim
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writes in says, I could use some positive vibes as
I am in the hospital. It is not good, but
I know I'll get some some with the Big Ben
and the Mallard militia. Well that's the proud cheese, said Slim.
And you know, slim Tim, I mean you probably think
I'm just gonna, you know, give you a love because
you're in the hospital. We don't do shout outs, so
I cannot wish you good luck. Now, if the malor
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militia choose to send positive vibrations and good cosmic energy,
as Andrea would say, no, we're not gonna. But I'm
saying the listeners, if they want to send that to
Slim Tim and have some kind of cosmic event that
we're all we're all connected, all right, you can read
minds and we can connect energy, positive energy. Yeah, we're
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gonna go deep here telling you so good.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Again, I can't wish you good luck, somethim. But but
if other people would like to wish Slim Tim good luck,
we would not be against that we would not be
opposed to looking out for Slim Tim, who's been a
loyal minion, not only a proud cheesehead, but a loyal
minion of this show and the podcast podcast There You Go. Hello,
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Yes now supermarket Steve also complaining. He said that you
need to start giving us more than a minute to
prepare for the show. Where's the where's the rundown? I
think the rundown was saying, I believe it's there. These guys,
they complain, there's such divas. These are such entitled schmucks.
You know what.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
They're so quick to blame.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
You exactly, there's a hoop.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Blame your internet service.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah you know what.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Maybe you have it refreshed in thirty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yes, that's right, that's your problem.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Why don't you check it?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
That's for you, wreck it, bro, That's a U problem,
not a ME problem. That's a U problem. That's right.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Our service is great.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah, we have great internet here, I think, don't you?
I might not. I mean it's not great, but it works,
somewhat works. Let's all well, get we smoked out that guy, Jeff.
If you were wondering if Jeff and Denver was going
to call up there he is. Defend your squad, Jeff,
go ahead, defend your guys. Go ahead.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
That was painful to watch. In the first half. No
one could throw the ball in the ocean.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Do you have a bunch of James Harden out there?
Looks like a lot of James Harden. We're out there
playing for the teams for the Nuggets. Man, Yeah, that
was a score. I know, this was what seven points?
Is that what you scored? Seven?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Well, then they.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Didn't score twenty.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I don't think, well, yeah, well you're doing what about him?
I mean, that's focused on the Nuggets. My god, holy crap.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Might have been that might have been the pivotal game team.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
So I was eight points. I stopped watching it seven
they scored eight. I screwed that. A bad job by me.
Eight points. I thought it was seven, but it was eight.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Yeah, but even Oklahoma City couldn't throw the ball in
the ocean either. That was painful to watch.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Are you calling it over right now? Are you saying
it's over? After the Nuggets shot nine point one two
of twenty two in the first quarter, Are you saying
this series is now over? Are you reporting, Jeff your
team is cooked? No, No, you've not given up. You
sure about that?
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
All right? Said that out coop. Jeff still buys the Nuggets.
He's buying into the Denver Nuggets. Okay, interesting, could you, Jeff,
you know how to shoot? By the way, if you
know how to shoot, maybe you'll play in the next game.
How about that?
Speaker 7 (28:28):
I know I was I was at game four. No,
I was at game three. Excuse me, I was at
the game Friday night. That was That was incredible. That
was the overtime win.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, they won because they won because they were inspired.
You gave him a pep talk after the fourth quarter, right,
you win the huddles say, hey, this is you know
who I am. I'm Jeff and effing Denver and I
call overnight talk radio. And you guys can't make me
look like a donkey and lose this game. That's what
you told them, right exactly.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
But I mean it's still how do you guys? How
did both teams play the overtime equally? And and then
there's an eleven to two overtime? Where did okayse go?
That was amazing?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
See now you're going back you want to full I
understand you want to focus on what happened Friday. You
don't want to focus on what happened on Sunday. I
get it. My favorite part of that, we'll get to
it next hour. I'm gonna talk about that game in depth.
And a Mallard monologue is the people claiming that it's
a scheduling issue that now we need to give the players,
even in the playoffs, they need more time off between
How stupid, I mean, how dumb seriously are people? I mean,
(29:28):
does anyone have an IQ above like ten? Like, well,
we got we gotta ever extra days? What are you stupid?
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Well, both teams were sluggish in the first half.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, they both had the same schedule. How about you
tough en up. My god, you're not out there paving
roads in the summer. You're playing basketball. Holy crap.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
Why did they put a game back thirty six hours
that wasn't even forty eight hours?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Oh my god, you have to walk, my guy, you
have to work like less than thirty six hours later.
You know, I have to do a radio show tomorrow,
and it's like less than twenty is like twenty hours
after I get done with this show. Oh my god,
I might lose my voice. Holy crap. How am I
gonna survive? And then on the weekends I have to
do a pun gage. I do the radio show Thursday
and Friday. Then I gotta go to a podcast studio
(30:16):
and I gotta a pudcast. And it's like less than
five hours after I do the radio show. Holy crap. Look,
oh my god, I am like an iron man. Give
me in a war, Give me an a war. I
need more time. I work at a sweatshop. This Fox
Sports Radio sweatshop. They make me do talk radio two shows,
two in less than twenty four hours.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
You got them all worked up. Look at that he's
sweating in there.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
I want you to I want you to go run
around the block twenty times.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Okay, you do the show. I'll leave. Okay, I'm gonna
go outside. I'll say hello to all the homeless people
that are around the building camping out right now. I'll
say hi to him.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
I'll put on some elevator music.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Crackhead bobs down the street. He's over there, he's enjoying himself.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Will you get some French fries while you're out?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I think they're close. Oh yeah, the no ice cream though,
the ice s cream machines closed? Is it oh yeah,
across the street in the in the mall down there
are they open though? It's late really even tonight? Are
you sure about that?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
All right?
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It's actually one am Lorena out here in l all Right,
I thank you, Jeff, all right, thanks for calling our
go away. There's Jeff. Thank you. That was a calm reaction,
you know.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Are you okay?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Ben? I'm fine. Yeah, it's just so stupid. I can
see things like this. I'm like really like, I don't know,
it's just the whole, the whole like mindset. They have
top trainers, they have personal chefs, they have five star travel.
It's never enough. And uh, I'm here hearing stories about
(31:47):
you know, the three They used to play three games
and three nights in the to save money and traveled
commercial and nobody really cared that much about the NBA.
The player has probably complained about it, but nobody cared.
Now players, anybody can the game's not good for half
a game or whatever. Oh my god, this is the
worst thing ever. Holy crap, man alive. All right? What
(32:10):
else do we have here? King Roy says The last Pope,
Pope Francis, was from Argentina, So mister nice guy says
Loraina is guilty of pious bias.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
So is that where I pick specific pies.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, something something like that. I think there you go,
Sumer Margus Steve that schmuck says my Internet is excellent
and I refresh Ben's X page every two minutes leading
up to the show. That rundown is like my Bible.
You might want to get a new Bible. It's just
a cheesy rundown with supid emojis that I throw in
(32:48):
there because I try to make it more interesting. And
it only tells you a little bit of what we
talk about. It doesn't even tell you most of what
we talk about. I promised a well known NBA player
who has been called a coward because he hid the
media after a recent loss, and then when his team wins,
he's out there in front. We'll have some audio on
that time. Now for the who am I?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Game?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
This is where I pretend to be somebody else and
you got to answer. So here's the who am I? Game?
Rick Carlyle who Rick Carlyle as a coach? Rick Carlile
passed me by for the most playoff wins by a
coach in PACER's franchise history. Again. Rick Carlile just passed
(33:28):
me by for the most playoff wins by a coach
in Pacers franchise history. Who am I? That is the question?
The answer. We'll get to it. We'll do it next.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
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Speaker 1 (33:43):
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Speaker 7 (34:23):
Thank you for the Internet.
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Who I know? Slim Tim's gonna get this right, even
in a hospital. He's gonna get this right. Other losers
will not.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
So.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Rick Carlisle passed me by for the most playoff wins
playoffs by a coach in Pacers franchise history. Who am I?
That is the question? What is the answer? And Robbie
the Mariner fan going with Justin in Cincinnati as his answer.
(35:21):
Scrooge says Frank Sinatra. Who else do we have? Page
down Shane and des Moines along with Kelly in des
Moines going with Yankee and Mariner Legendino Martinez as the answer.
Alf the Alien Opiner from Springfield, mass home of the
Pro Basketball Hall of Fame, going with Jason Tatum. Who
(35:42):
all right, that's next on his list? He'll do that
in the next game. Grandpa Simpson from King Rory, Bobby
Knight from me. That's that's his game uniform. That's how
he used to coach the pacers in that in that outfit,
Don delawise, there's a name we haven't heard in a
long time, mister nice guy dating himself? Who else to have?
Andy and Lino Lakes going with a J. Foyt. It's
(36:03):
his answer? Who else do we have? Ba City Tony says,
not Bud black but eighties fashion critic mister Blackwell Another
dated reference Bucky buck Walter from James Ice Spice from
Ostridge Aunt a big fan there. Who else do we have?
Page down? Mark I Voroni? Another name I have not
(36:25):
heard in a lot. This is some good classic names.
Eileen came up with that one old Utah jazz player.
Who else do you have? Page down? Frank Vogel guessed
by Colin not the other column. Let's see here. Do
you have an answer? Lora? Now do you have an answer? Yes?
I do?
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Ben, it's Prince Charming?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Is it Prince Charming? No? No, no, Lorena, I'm gonna
give you the clue here. Let's se if you get
it right. He was known as the hick from French Lick.
Who is it a hick from French Lick?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
M Hill?
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Billy Bill?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Okay? No, Larry Bird, Larry Light and Larry Bird, the
Hector Frenchlick Larry Bird. How soon we forget? So Rick
Carlisle and his second stint as Pacers coach is the
very top winning coach in playoff history for the Pacers,
ahead of Larry Bird and Frank Vogel, who is third
on the list. So, speaking of the Pacers, Tyrese Halliburton
(37:24):
a cowardly act. We have the audio on this, we're
gonna play for you. So Tyrese Halliburton did not talk
to the media when the Pacers lost. When they win,
He's always right out in front, very cordial. He loves
to talk to the media. So he was asked, like,
what's going on, dude, Why why didn't you hide from
the media? Take a list?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Child's game. So I love what I do. I love
my job. Yeah, I don't even really look at it
as a job. I have a lot of fun with
what I do. And you know, I think there's you know,
always commentary behind what I do, positive or negative. And
I mean it's hilarious because a lot of times it's
people who know nothing about me have so much to say.
(38:07):
It's usually the people who you know don't come around
or don't spend any time around me that I have
the most to say victim, you know, But that's that's
all part of it. I just I'm a basketball player.
I love what I do. Really, I love being here
in Indiana. I love playing for this organization. I feel like,
you know, criticism, sometimes it's warranted, sometimes it's not. But
it's all part of it. And that's question, you know,
(38:29):
as far as you know, last game, I feel like
our PR team does a great job of, you know,
putting me out there when it's time to talk. And
you know, I got to come out here and talk
when it is time, and you know, I think, you know,
Mike and the staff did you know, try to protect me.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
A little bit, protecting protect from what.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Maybe I should have overruled it and come out here,
but I wasn't really in the mood to.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Speak, so I left.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
And so that's a problem. You guys are more.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
What's a problem. I don't need to hear anybody stop listen. Yes,
it's a problem. So I only want to talk when
we win and I'm feeling good. This is exactly what
I talk about. A better story in the losing locker room.
I know from covering baseball back in the day. These
guys it's like a mort when they look. But you
gotta talk, you got I mean, that's your that's your
(39:20):
You're supposed to be with the leaders of the team.
You go out there and talk. And how difficult is it?
What are they pointing uh, you know, guns at you
and throwing hand grid They're lobbing hand grid aids at you,
Like seriously, Oh, I told me? And so he kind
of in that sound body Tyru Saliburt and O the pacers,
it sounded like he kind of tossed the pr staff
under the buck.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
They said you didn't have to talk, Well shouldn't you
be like, hey, no, I'm the leader of this team,
Like I'm gonna go out, I'm gonna talk, and and
all you have to do is is string together like
seven or eight cliche. We really we didn't bring our
a game. We gotta play better, you know, one game
at a time, you know, all that crap over, that's
all you have to do. Don't hide? Why are you hiding?
No hiding?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
And ya
Here we go. Welcome, It's our numb bur w our
number one of the original Recipe podcast. Happy Monday to you.
It is the twelfth day of May. We stayed up
all night to provide you with this fresh pod. Yeah,
we did this for you, not because we got paid
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you had a great Mother's Day weekend. Here in our
number one was we'll start with basketball. Was this game
more about the Pacers dominance or the calves and competence?
Blowout City in the NBA playoffs? Also down three to
one in the Eastern Conference semi finals. How much trouble
are the Donovan Mitchell's calves in? I'll also take a
(00:40):
look at Mitchell's injury status. Celtics star Jason Tatum is
now getting called out after fans have accused him of
stealing Kawhi Leonard's celebration. How do you evaluate this one?
We'll talk about that and much more right now as
you settle in. This is just our one. There's three
more hours ago after this, but here it is our
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way tire buying show would be. So our lead this
hour is from the pro Bouncy Ball Playoffs playoffs. Uh yeah. Now,
normally the anticipation is what both teams are going to
show up and they're going to compete. We've had some
(02:30):
real does. We had a stretch of amazing NBA playoff
games and the last couple of days some no shows,
some no shows, and that is our lead. Here will
start out in the Hoosier State. The late game on
Mother's Day, Game four of the Eastern Conference Semifinals. Donovan Mitchell,
Spider Mitchell, he's aw he's so guided. Uh you tell
(02:53):
the stats are great, Spider Mitchell, but his teams never
do anything going back to days with the Utah jess.
So there is Spider Mitchell, the Cavaliers trying to even
things up against the Indiana Pacers. That was the nightcap,
the late game. And was it worth a watch? No,
I don't know if you were watching or not. It was.
(03:15):
I mean I was, but I have no choice. Part
of the job. You're supposed to be part of the job.
Pascal Siakam got to make sure I say that name right.
Thanks to our friend Marcel and Brooklyn. Pascal Siakam twenty
one points. The Pacers never trailed. This is a Harvard
boat race situation. They led by over forty and halftime
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they tied the record for the biggest halftime lead in
playoff history. They were about forty one points, and they
added on to that. They were a by forty four
points at one point. They win one twenty nine to
one oh nine, a twenty point win, which was not
indicative how the game was actually played. So they get
it done. The Pacers are now up three games to
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one in the Eastern Conference semifinals. Upstart Indiana and the
Calves had their guys. They were there and they didn't
show up. My god, all right, So let us discuss
the question for the esteem panel here as you look
at that Pacers and Calves game. Was this game more
about the global domination of the Indiana Pacers who took
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a can of what pass to the Cleveland basketball team?
Or was it by the total systemic incompetence of the Cavaliers.
So my thoughts on this, I have Nike, good doctor,
and feline, and we'll combine all of these things together
and we are going to make delicious breadsticks. Is what
(04:46):
we're gonna make. So a my default position, my default position,
which rarely changed out, does change everyone's one every once
in a while. I will go away from my default position.
By my default position is what that's right. My default
position is most games are lost, they're not one. The
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better story is in the losing locker room. That has
been my position, that will continue to be my position.
And on this game, I'm not changing my position. As
good as the Pacers played, and they were running and gunning,
and the Calves were stumbling and bumbling, but that's because
of the Cavs stumbling in public. The Cavs were not
(05:27):
only an NBA team, they were terrible. As the lion
goes right, there's really no other way to say. And
that's an understatement. I will maintain till my last breath
in this mortal coil that it is impossible. There's not
that big a gap between teams. If both teams are
playing competent basketball, you're never going to have a game
(05:48):
end up where one team has a forty point lead
over No, it's certainly not a playoff game. But Wausers,
it's an understatement to say they were terrible. They were
worse than terrible. It was a tortch level, uninspired performance.
And you know that means. That means, as John Tortorelli
so famously said the hockey coach, they sucked from head
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to toe. They sucked at a time you cannot suck,
which is when the game started. Cleveland playing like they
were play a regular season game, and it was the
end of a road trip and they wanted to get
back and they had a lot on their mind. They
played in second gear. Then you have Spider Mitchell out there.
You had in the first half, you had Spider Mitchell,
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he was out there. Darius Garland, Evan Mobley, those are
the three horsemen of the apocalypse for the Cavaliers. Here
the headliners in the land, and they played toothless. They
played gutless basketball in the first half. If you were
to describe it as a item, it would be a
dirty diaper performance, a dirty diaper performance. They were out
(06:52):
hustled by the Pacers and as a result, Indiana made
some shots and then the snowball effects started taking place
where there was a here and a push there, and
the Calves did not respond and they were essentially the
Cleveland Cavaliers were play though, right, They were play though
for the Pacers there they were putty in the hands
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of the Indiana basketball team and Cleveland, I'm pretty sure
they had this new concept sneaker from Nike, the air
cement shoe. They looked like, did it look I don't
mean maybe you didn't see the game or didn't hear
the game, or you I mean, you're just taking my
my brilliant analysis. But I'm telling you we've seen this
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several times over the last week where one team looks
like they're playing a totally different game at a totally
different speed. Cleveland was in second gear and the Pacers
were not, and all the effort all that, like the
calves were weighted down, they were utterly ineffective, and like
all the effort plays went in favor of Indiana. And
(07:54):
then by the time Cleveland woke up, the game was
already over, so it didn't really matter at that point.
But you look at the fifty to fifty balls, Oh
that's picked. Always love those fifty to fifty balls. But
points in the paint, second chance points, the fast break statistic,
all those different stats within stats all went in favor
of Indiana. Now, page two, So you're down three to
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one in the Eastern Conference semi finals. How much trouble
are the Donovan Mitchell caves in at this point? So
here's the issue, Right, they're not gonna win this series.
Indiana Pacers are gonna win this series. Their fighting history
is what they're doing the Cavaliers. Right, I'm declaring the
Pacers are going to win. That's a bold take. Up
(08:39):
three to one. Now NBA teams leading three to one
in a best of seven series, It's happened two hundred
and ninety three times that have finished the series, and
of those two hundred ninety three times, two hundred and
eighty of the times it has gone the way of
the team up three to one, which my computer like
(09:00):
tells me is a ninety six percent winning percentage. We
round up ninety five point six, we round up to
ninety six percent, so ninety six percent in favor of
the team up three to one winning. Now, that tells
you what has happened, not what's going to happen. Now,
even though Indiana's going to win this series, let's just
try to help out the Cavaliers. Why not, let's help
(09:21):
out the cavaliers. So what does Cleveland need to turn
things around? The answer is a good doctor, and not
because of Spider Mitchell and his situation. We'll get to
that in a minute. Not because of that. No, No,
what they need is Rick Carlile to catch the neural virus. Okay,
this is the key. I thought this all out. Okay,
as I had a long drive, there's a lot of
(09:42):
traffic for some I do an overnight sho Why is
there traffic? It should be traffic. It was like Mother's
Day traffic coming in. I do an over nation. Why
why would they be? I don't get it anyway, So
I had a lot of time to think as I
was making my way in. And if Rick Carlile can
get the neural virus and for some reason the Pace
don't elevate an assistant they bring in. They get the
(10:02):
Bucks to fire Doc Rivers, which hasn't happened yet. Then
they bring Doc Rivers in as the interim coach. Then
then the Calves are in really good shape, right, doctor, doctor,
give me the news.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Doc Rivers by himself is responsible for almost twenty five
percent of the choke jobs up three to one where
a team blew it in NBA history. One man, one man,
stands atop all of the men when it comes to
blowing series up three to one. Doc Rivers the only
(10:35):
NBA coach with multiple blown three to one leaves. He's
done three of those masterpieces in his career. That's twenty
three percent of all three to one series blown in
NBA history. Nobody else has done it more than once.
Doc Rivers, and he's still getting a checked. He's still
getting a check in the NBA. I digress. So Cleveland
(10:56):
just do better, be better. You're gonna lose any way,
But who cares? All right now? Donovan Mitchell his injury
the cherry on top of the crap tastics on it.
But is it a real injury or is it? My god,
we're getting our ass kicked. I don't feel like playing.
I'm going to say I'm out. I haven't. He's gonna
have an MRI. So that means it's real. Okay, it's
(11:16):
it's real, Sure it is. Why not? But here's the problem.
Even with the numbers Mitchells put up, he didn't do
anything in the first half, nobody did for the Calves,
and he's had some big playoff games. Here's some big
stat lines. It's it. I got the vibe. It's like
it's Dak Prescott, like like the numbers look good, but
you just don't not in the context of winning. I
(11:37):
get that vibe from Donovan Mitchell. I had the same
vibe when he was in Utah. It's like he's a
good stat guy. But it doesn't really seem to matter
all that much. All right now? Last word, So over
the weekend. Honestly, maybe can rehash the the Celtics Knicks game,
but I like, eh, there's really nothing there. The Celtics
molly wopped the Knicks. It wasn't a total blowout and
(11:59):
all that, but the Celtics in a make or miss league,
they made their three point shots that they'd missed all
of them. It seemed at back in Boston and then
Madison Square Garden, different garden, different garden, party, and they
were making So there's not a lot to dissect on that.
If they make them, the Knicks have no chance. It's
forget about it now. Jason Tatum, though, this is a
(12:22):
good talk. So I don't know if he saw it
or not, but Jason Tatum is getting called out for
something that he did. I guess he's actually been doing it,
but it got more attention in the game against the Knickerbockers.
He's been accused by internet investigators of stealing stealing another
star players celebration. That's right, Jason Tatum has been put
(12:46):
on blast. The astro blasters are out because Jason Tatum
taking the proprietary blend of Kawhi Leonard and his celebration.
So how do you avoweight the accusations, the charges against
Jason Tatum for stealing another star players celebratory act. All right,
(13:10):
So I looked at this. I put this in the
Petri dish. I dusted off the Malard microscope to look
at it. And in honor of Jerry Jones, we decided
to circumcise the mosquito and take a deep dive on it.
So we determined, based on the evidence that was available
to us, that Jason Tatum. We asked the question, what
(13:30):
type of feline is Jason Tatum? You think of the
big cat. There's so many different breeds of cats. You've
got the Persian cat, the Bengal, the Siamese, the main
coon cat. You've got a lot of different cats out there, right,
But Jason Tatum is the It turns out he's the copycat.
That's what he is. Right again. I mean, I feel
(13:52):
like we're back, maybe the finals when the Celtics won
last summer, and it was all about Jason Tatum's lack
of originality. After the the Celtics won, and here we
are yet again, is on court antics with the Celtics.
Jason Tatum no ifs ands or butts about it. After
a thorough minutes long Mallor investigation, we have concluded beyond
a reasonable doubt that Jason Tatum absolutely mimicked the Clipper
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star Kawhi Leonard, his signature hand salute celebration that goes
all the way back to the San Antonio Spurs vintage
of Kawhi Leonard back in the day that twenty fourteen
spursed him. So it's over a decade old. Kawhi doesn't
do it as much anymore, but occasionally does it, and
he did it in Toronto. So there you go. Now
you can add this one to the list. You can
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add this one to the list. After remember then the
Celtics won the championship in O four. He Jason Tatum
being he recreated the Kevin Garnett anything Is Possible moment
like he had that he'd been watching that clip on
his phone before the game and he recreated that. He
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also po posed for the traditional finals photo after this championship,
and he very similar to the like he was ripping
off a Michael Jordan classic photo that goes way back
to early nineties, a long time ago. So it's fair
to say again Jason Tatum, the type of cat he
is he's a copycat and he likes to repurpose, recycle celebrations.
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And as the quote goes, imitation is the highest form
of flattery. Jason Tatum is a master at imitation. So
there's clearly some high flattery. Who will he copy next?
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So an NBA star was called out for been a
coward front runner coward player hid from the media like
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a coward would, but when the team wins, the players
right out in front with the smile on his face
and just the happiest guy in the world when team wins,
and when they lose, he of course hides, which really
feeds into my hypothesis that the better stories and losing
locker room because you never see anybody running hide when
they win a game. You see people running high when
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they lose a game. So we've got some audio. Will
play an NBA star hiding from the media and address
the media and addressed why he hid from the media.
He answered the question, why didn't you hide from the media.
We'll get to that. We'll do it. We'll take your calls,
the whole thing, and we will do it next.
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it talking about the NBA card, the Calves and no show,
and we'll get to the speaking of no show. Both
teams didn't show up in the first half of the Denver,
Indiana game or Denver an Oklahoma City game, and some
people email me literally got Jeff and Denver's gonna call up.
I bet he doesn't call up. They got smoked. He's
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not gonna go Okay, they ain't smoked. They didn't make
many shots and things are not looking particularly good for
the Nuggets, and he didn't call in. How about the Indiana?
Pacer crowd erupting with chance of we want we want Boston.
They want the cel They want that smoke from the
Celtics is what they want the Indiana. They're already done
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with Cleveland. They're ready to take on the Celtics and
take them up. Coming up in a couple of as
we had some audio. We're gonna play it for you
from a star player in the NBA who hid from
the media like a coward after a poor performance, and
then when they win, he's always out in front. That's
known as a show pony. That's known also as a
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front runner is what that's known as. Now, back in
the old days, we used to look down upon that.
But I know you were wokesters out. They love that
kind of thing. Apparently you're all into it, but I
still get annoyed by it. So let's go to the phones.
Let's say hello to Steve, who's in the OC and
he's up first. Hello, Steve, welcome.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Hey, how are you a short time?
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Long time?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Anyway?
Speaker 5 (20:16):
You know, I'm a big Catholic over here. We have
the greatest church, a little Hoaborough or Lady of Loupez.
But I know the new pope is from Chicago and
a big White Sox fan. You think before he goes
to bed and does his prayers or talks to the
other cardinals or is it the Vatican, he's gonna pray
for the White Sox to win a World Series.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Well, you would have to answer that better than me.
I would think, when you become the Pope, do you
have to give up your allegiance to the White Sox,
Like you're that's a high the highest position you can have, right,
Can you still be a White Sox fan?
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Is he going to be going out to the ballpark
eating nachos watching the White Sox as the Pope? I don't.
I don't think so, right, I think you got to
give that up.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I think they actually have footage of him going to a.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
White well yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. That was twenty
years ago. He was going. He was probably listening to
the show because we were on in Chicago twenty years ago.
After the White Sox won the World Series, so he
was probably a listener. But he's not, you know, he's
hanging out the Vatican. Maybe they'll build him a papal suite.
Is that what it's called? Papal sweet?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Is that the right word? I don't I'm not.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
I feel like it should be papel.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Do the White Sox have to Now, if you're a Catholic,
do you have to pull for the White Sox because
that's the Pope's team? Do we have to do we
need the White Sox to win if you're Catholic? That's
the question.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Well, I think they're going to show his face when
they you know, uh, you know, at the stretch, they're
going to show the Pope.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Well, has the Pope ever I don't know this, maybe
it's happened. Has the Pope ever thrown out the first
pitch at the baseball game?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Wow? They you know what?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Maybe you should text him or email him.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, I'm sure he'll answer Mike. Of course he'll answer
my and my message is right away, get right back
at the bottom of it.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah, as long as he took at Baba boo, I'm
sure he'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, Well, Baba booe. Well, Baba boys was off to
like the let But who was the other guy? Fifty cent? Right?
Didn't he throw one that was terrible too? He was
he throwing was pretty bad? He all right, well, thank you,
and I got I liked that you mentioned Baba boy.
That's good. That's a good that's a good. Thank you,
thank you? All right, go away, all right, that's just
what I want hot pope talk. That's right. Any other
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religious leaders we'd like to talk about anybody you know
one you want to bring up here.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Now, No, no, Ben, no.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
One knowing at all. You sure about that? You if
any pop in your head, just let me know. I
will break will break it down, break it down. There
you go about that.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
People are posting photos of like random people that before
this guy became the pope. I saw a bunch of
those over the weekend, Like you know, people were classmates
with this dude.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
And I think I'm sorry, I just think it's right.
I think pope seem to be European, right, Well, what
you're biased?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
You think what's wrong with the Chicago Pope? Great people
from Chicago.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Just like everyone.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
No, no, no, no, no, this is great. There's a whole
world out there. Come on. Yeah, but if you love
Europe so much, why don't you move there? While you
go there? Your anti American USA us myself in the fly,
we got an American pope. This is huge. Oh, this
is massive. Okay, you understand. I don't even know what
it means, but it's a big deal. I'm told Big.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Could be from America. I didn't even know because.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
There never been one big of all the little kids
that will grow up dream big, of the kids that
will grow up and be like, someday I could be
the pope, and they can literally be the pope. They
get little kids on playgrounds. You know, we used to
dream about being you know, the super Bowl heroes and
all that world series. But now the kids can dream
of being the pope.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
I used to want to catwoman. Yeah, maybe that is
still possible.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
It is.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
You know, if there's a subspecies out there of aliens
in the ocean that come up and give you cat
like powers, boom, you can become captain do it? Yeah? Absolutely? Uh.
Firk Dog says, I don't blame Jason Tatum for stealing
Kawhi Leander's hand salute celebration. Kawhi is a better player,
and he's a member of the premier franchise in the NBA.
The Clippers absolutely now, King Roy writes in from Wisconsin.
(24:07):
He says he's not that far from Green Bay. Says
a good thing Coach of the Year award is a
regular season award, not including the playoffs playoffs because mister
Coach of the Year Kenny Atkinson is not living up
to the award's namesake. I believe the season award should
be announced between the conference finals and the finals. Well,
(24:28):
you should send a letter to the Send a letter
over to the people in charge at the NBA. I'm
sure they'll conclude that. Supermarket Steve says, I can't believe
the Rockies fired their manager after a twenty one tohering loss,
a day after the GM claimed he had the respect
of the clubhouse. Was not on the rundown. We will
(24:49):
address Bud Black. I don't know that's a lead story,
Supermarket Steve. If I know you want hot Rocky talk,
and who doesn't, that's also a sign you want me
to lose my job. Talking about the Colorado Rockies too
much is a sign that I'm probably gonna lose my job.
So screw you, but we will address that. We will
address that at some point down the line. What else
do we have to see? Page dan Uh. Slim Tim
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writes in says, I could use some positive vibes as
I am in the hospital. It is not good, but
I know I'll get some some with the Big Ben
and the Mallard militia. Well that's the proud cheese, said Slim.
And you know, slim Tim, I mean you probably think
I'm just gonna, you know, give you a love because
you're in the hospital. We don't do shout outs, so
I cannot wish you good luck. Now, if the malor
(25:33):
militia choose to send positive vibrations and good cosmic energy,
as Andrea would say, no, we're not gonna. But I'm
saying the listeners, if they want to send that to
Slim Tim and have some kind of cosmic event that
we're all we're all connected, all right, you can read
minds and we can connect energy, positive energy. Yeah, we're
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gonna go deep here telling you so good.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Again, I can't wish you good luck, somethim. But but
if other people would like to wish Slim Tim good luck,
we would not be against that we would not be
opposed to looking out for Slim Tim, who's been a
loyal minion, not only a proud cheesehead, but a loyal
minion of this show and the podcast podcast There You Go. Hello,
(26:21):
Yes now supermarket Steve also complaining. He said that you
need to start giving us more than a minute to
prepare for the show. Where's the where's the rundown? I
think the rundown was saying, I believe it's there. These guys,
they complain, there's such divas. These are such entitled schmucks.
You know what.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
They're so quick to blame.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
You exactly, there's a hoop.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Blame your internet service.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah you know what.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Maybe you have it refreshed in thirty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yes, that's right, that's your problem.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Why don't you check it?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
That's for you, wreck it, bro, That's a U problem,
not a ME problem. That's a U problem. That's right.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Our service is great.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah, we have great internet here, I think, don't you?
I might not. I mean it's not great, but it works,
somewhat works. Let's all well, get we smoked out that guy, Jeff.
If you were wondering if Jeff and Denver was going
to call up there he is. Defend your squad, Jeff,
go ahead, defend your guys. Go ahead.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
That was painful to watch. In the first half. No
one could throw the ball in the ocean.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Do you have a bunch of James Harden out there?
Looks like a lot of James Harden. We're out there
playing for the teams for the Nuggets. Man, Yeah, that
was a score. I know, this was what seven points?
Is that what you scored? Seven?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Well, then they.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Didn't score twenty.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I don't think, well, yeah, well you're doing what about him?
I mean, that's focused on the Nuggets. My god, holy crap.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Might have been that might have been the pivotal game team.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
So I was eight points. I stopped watching it seven
they scored eight. I screwed that. A bad job by me.
Eight points. I thought it was seven, but it was eight.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Yeah, but even Oklahoma City couldn't throw the ball in
the ocean either. That was painful to watch.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Are you calling it over right now? Are you saying
it's over? After the Nuggets shot nine point one two
of twenty two in the first quarter, Are you saying
this series is now over? Are you reporting, Jeff your
team is cooked? No, No, you've not given up. You
sure about that?
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
All right? Said that out coop. Jeff still buys the Nuggets.
He's buying into the Denver Nuggets. Okay, interesting, could you, Jeff,
you know how to shoot? By the way, if you
know how to shoot, maybe you'll play in the next game.
How about that?
Speaker 7 (28:28):
I know I was I was at game four. No,
I was at game three. Excuse me, I was at
the game Friday night. That was That was incredible. That
was the overtime win.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, they won because they won because they were inspired.
You gave him a pep talk after the fourth quarter, right,
you win the huddles say, hey, this is you know
who I am. I'm Jeff and effing Denver and I
call overnight talk radio. And you guys can't make me
look like a donkey and lose this game. That's what
you told them, right exactly.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
But I mean it's still how do you guys? How
did both teams play the overtime equally? And and then
there's an eleven to two overtime? Where did okayse go?
That was amazing?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
See now you're going back you want to full I
understand you want to focus on what happened Friday. You
don't want to focus on what happened on Sunday. I
get it. My favorite part of that, we'll get to
it next hour. I'm gonna talk about that game in depth.
And a Mallard monologue is the people claiming that it's
a scheduling issue that now we need to give the players,
even in the playoffs, they need more time off between
How stupid, I mean, how dumb seriously are people? I mean,
(29:28):
does anyone have an IQ above like ten? Like, well,
we got we gotta ever extra days? What are you stupid?
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Well, both teams were sluggish in the first half.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, they both had the same schedule. How about you
tough en up. My god, you're not out there paving
roads in the summer. You're playing basketball. Holy crap.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
Why did they put a game back thirty six hours
that wasn't even forty eight hours?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Oh my god, you have to walk, my guy, you
have to work like less than thirty six hours later.
You know, I have to do a radio show tomorrow,
and it's like less than twenty is like twenty hours
after I get done with this show. Oh my god,
I might lose my voice. Holy crap. How am I
gonna survive? And then on the weekends I have to
do a pun gage. I do the radio show Thursday
and Friday. Then I gotta go to a podcast studio
(30:16):
and I gotta a pudcast. And it's like less than
five hours after I do the radio show. Holy crap. Look,
oh my god, I am like an iron man. Give
me in a war, Give me an a war. I
need more time. I work at a sweatshop. This Fox
Sports Radio sweatshop. They make me do talk radio two shows,
two in less than twenty four hours.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
You got them all worked up. Look at that he's
sweating in there.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
I want you to I want you to go run
around the block twenty times.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Okay, you do the show. I'll leave. Okay, I'm gonna
go outside. I'll say hello to all the homeless people
that are around the building camping out right now. I'll
say hi to him.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
I'll put on some elevator music.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Crackhead bobs down the street. He's over there, he's enjoying himself.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Will you get some French fries while you're out?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I think they're close. Oh yeah, the no ice cream though,
the ice s cream machines closed? Is it oh yeah,
across the street in the in the mall down there
are they open though? It's late really even tonight? Are
you sure about that?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
All right?
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It's actually one am Lorena out here in l all Right,
I thank you, Jeff, all right, thanks for calling our
go away. There's Jeff. Thank you. That was a calm reaction,
you know.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Are you okay?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Ben? I'm fine. Yeah, it's just so stupid. I can
see things like this. I'm like really like, I don't know,
it's just the whole, the whole like mindset. They have
top trainers, they have personal chefs, they have five star travel.
It's never enough. And uh, I'm here hearing stories about
(31:47):
you know, the three They used to play three games
and three nights in the to save money and traveled
commercial and nobody really cared that much about the NBA.
The player has probably complained about it, but nobody cared.
Now players, anybody can the game's not good for half
a game or whatever. Oh my god, this is the
worst thing ever. Holy crap, man alive. All right? What
(32:10):
else do we have here? King Roy says The last Pope,
Pope Francis, was from Argentina, So mister nice guy says
Loraina is guilty of pious bias.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
So is that where I pick specific pies.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, something something like that. I think there you go,
Sumer Margus Steve that schmuck says my Internet is excellent
and I refresh Ben's X page every two minutes leading
up to the show. That rundown is like my Bible.
You might want to get a new Bible. It's just
a cheesy rundown with supid emojis that I throw in
(32:48):
there because I try to make it more interesting. And
it only tells you a little bit of what we
talk about. It doesn't even tell you most of what
we talk about. I promised a well known NBA player
who has been called a coward because he hid the
media after a recent loss, and then when his team wins,
he's out there in front. We'll have some audio on
that time. Now for the who am I?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Game?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
This is where I pretend to be somebody else and
you got to answer. So here's the who am I? Game?
Rick Carlyle who Rick Carlyle as a coach? Rick Carlile
passed me by for the most playoff wins by a
coach in PACER's franchise history. Again. Rick Carlile just passed
(33:28):
me by for the most playoff wins by a coach
in Pacers franchise history. Who am I? That is the question?
The answer. We'll get to it. We'll do it next.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
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Speaker 7 (34:23):
Thank you for the Internet.
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Who I know? Slim Tim's gonna get this right, even
in a hospital. He's gonna get this right. Other losers
will not.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
So.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Rick Carlisle passed me by for the most playoff wins
playoffs by a coach in Pacers franchise history. Who am I?
That is the question? What is the answer? And Robbie
the Mariner fan going with Justin in Cincinnati as his answer.
(35:21):
Scrooge says Frank Sinatra. Who else do we have? Page
down Shane and des Moines along with Kelly in des
Moines going with Yankee and Mariner Legendino Martinez as the answer.
Alf the Alien Opiner from Springfield, mass home of the
Pro Basketball Hall of Fame, going with Jason Tatum. Who
(35:42):
all right, that's next on his list? He'll do that
in the next game. Grandpa Simpson from King Rory, Bobby
Knight from me. That's that's his game uniform. That's how
he used to coach the pacers in that in that outfit,
Don delawise, there's a name we haven't heard in a
long time, mister nice guy dating himself? Who else to have?
Andy and Lino Lakes going with a J. Foyt. It's
(36:03):
his answer? Who else do we have? Ba City Tony says,
not Bud black but eighties fashion critic mister Blackwell Another
dated reference Bucky buck Walter from James Ice Spice from
Ostridge Aunt a big fan there. Who else do we have?
Page down? Mark I Voroni? Another name I have not
(36:25):
heard in a lot. This is some good classic names.
Eileen came up with that one old Utah jazz player.
Who else do you have? Page down? Frank Vogel guessed
by Colin not the other column. Let's see here. Do
you have an answer? Lora? Now do you have an answer? Yes?
I do?
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Ben, it's Prince Charming?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Is it Prince Charming? No? No, no, Lorena, I'm gonna
give you the clue here. Let's se if you get
it right. He was known as the hick from French Lick.
Who is it a hick from French Lick?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
M Hill?
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Billy Bill?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Okay? No, Larry Bird, Larry Light and Larry Bird, the
Hector Frenchlick Larry Bird. How soon we forget? So Rick
Carlisle and his second stint as Pacers coach is the
very top winning coach in playoff history for the Pacers,
ahead of Larry Bird and Frank Vogel, who is third
on the list. So, speaking of the Pacers, Tyrese Halliburton
(37:24):
a cowardly act. We have the audio on this, we're
gonna play for you. So Tyrese Halliburton did not talk
to the media when the Pacers lost. When they win,
He's always right out in front, very cordial. He loves
to talk to the media. So he was asked, like,
what's going on, dude, Why why didn't you hide from
the media? Take a list?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Child's game. So I love what I do. I love
my job. Yeah, I don't even really look at it
as a job. I have a lot of fun with
what I do. And you know, I think there's you know,
always commentary behind what I do, positive or negative. And
I mean it's hilarious because a lot of times it's
people who know nothing about me have so much to say.
(38:07):
It's usually the people who you know don't come around
or don't spend any time around me that I have
the most to say victim, you know, But that's that's
all part of it. I just I'm a basketball player.
I love what I do. Really, I love being here
in Indiana. I love playing for this organization. I feel like,
you know, criticism, sometimes it's warranted, sometimes it's not. But
it's all part of it. And that's question, you know,
(38:29):
as far as you know, last game, I feel like
our PR team does a great job of, you know,
putting me out there when it's time to talk. And
you know, I got to come out here and talk
when it is time, and you know, I think, you know,
Mike and the staff did you know, try to protect me.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
A little bit, protecting protect from what.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Maybe I should have overruled it and come out here,
but I wasn't really in the mood to.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Speak, so I left.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
And so that's a problem. You guys are more.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
What's a problem. I don't need to hear anybody stop listen. Yes,
it's a problem. So I only want to talk when
we win and I'm feeling good. This is exactly what
I talk about. A better story in the losing locker room.
I know from covering baseball back in the day. These
guys it's like a mort when they look. But you
gotta talk, you got I mean, that's your that's your
(39:20):
You're supposed to be with the leaders of the team.
You go out there and talk. And how difficult is it?
What are they pointing uh, you know, guns at you
and throwing hand grid They're lobbing hand grid aids at you,
Like seriously, Oh, I told me? And so he kind
of in that sound body Tyru Saliburt and O the pacers,
it sounded like he kind of tossed the pr staff
under the buck.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
They said you didn't have to talk, Well shouldn't you
be like, hey, no, I'm the leader of this team,
Like I'm gonna go out, I'm gonna talk, and and
all you have to do is is string together like
seven or eight cliche. We really we didn't bring our
a game. We gotta play better, you know, one game
at a time, you know, all that crap over, that's
all you have to do. Don't hide? Why are you hiding?
No hiding?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
And ya
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