June 23, 2025 • 41 mins
Ben Maller talks about the OKC Thunder winning the NBA Finals as Tyrese Haliburton of the Pacers goes down with an Achilles injury in Game 7, if this championship is downgraded because of Haliburton's injury, morning-after QBs saying the Pacers shouldn't have played him, if the Thunder are the blueprint for other NBA teams to copy, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We go. Welcome. It's our number, bar what our number
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hour number one the NBA Finals Game seven, the star
of the show yay or nay on Oklahoma Cities Championship
for Shay jogis Alexander's Thunder downgraded because of the Tyres
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Halliburton achilles injury early in game number seven. Also, now
we're getting the morning After quarterbacks saying that Halliburton never
should have been allowed to play for the Pacers. Oh no,
he popped his achilles aware are you on this one?
The Thunder also just winning their first championship since since.
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Now we'll count the sonic days. Now there's whispers and
there's gonna be a dynasty. This, that and the other
thing how do you see it? We'll talk about that. Also,
have the thunder become the new blueprint, the model for
other NBA teams to copy. And what about the dopes
ripping the clippers for trading SGA, the trolls crawling out
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from behind the refrigerator. We'll talk about all that and more.
Right now, settle in for our number one. If you
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if you had the NBA Finals having a classic Game seven,
you are a loser.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Much of the chatter that people are excited about is
not Game seven. It's the Kevin Durant trade. Durant every
three years is traded. This time he goes to Houston.
More buzz on that we'll talk about as we go
through the overnight. But it was the end of the
road for pro bouncy ball. That's all she wrote. The
NBA regular season, I went back and I looked, began
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two hundred and forty four days prior to Sunday, two
hundred and forty four days. It began with the Knickerbockers
playing the then reigning champion Boston Celtics back in October
October twenty second before Halloween of last year, and it
ended exactly eight months later to the day. Eight months later,
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the thunder and Pacers brought the curtain down. They didn't
bring the house down. They brought the curtain down on
there in the NBA Finals, Game seven, Small market, Small
Market NBA Finals. Were you watching? Were you no? You
were not watching. I've seen the ratings. No one was watching.
There were seven people watching. That's it. But we watched.
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It's our good mits for the day. We checked it
out so you would not have to. And what happened
well in game seven. The thing everyone's talking about is
not the game itself, something that happened early in the game.
But in the end, Shade jogis Alexander. He was inefficient,
but he had twenty nine points and ends up winning
the Finals MVP award as OKC pulls away in the
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third quarter and cements the lead in the fourth quarter
and they zoom passed a short handed Pacer team one
to oh, three to ninety one turn out the last
the parties over for Indiana and for Oklahoma for that matter.
Game seven of the NBA Finals in the books now SGA.
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He needed twenty seven shots to get to twenty nine points.
In game seven. I'm told that is not particularly good,
but it didn't matter. He still won the MVP eight
of twenty seven. That's my computer like brain tells me.
Twenty nine point six percent from the floor, nineteen misshots
in game seven, and he still ends up winning the
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finals MVP, which is the full body of work. But
the story here is the injury and how it impacts
the outcome of this game. So let us discuss yay
or nay? The Oklahoma City Thunder Championship for Shay Jogas
Alexander downgraded, downgraded because of the Tyrese Haliburt and achilles
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injury in the first quarter of the close out final
game of this series. So I've got tears for fears, spreadsheet,
and prison camp and we will combine all of these
things together and we are going to make a nice
banana cream pie that you can throw in someone's face
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if you want. I don't care. So a to answer
the question, the Championship for Oklahoma City yay or nay?
The Shay Joggis Alexander Championship for the Thunder downgraded because
of the injury to Tyrese Haliburton, pop goes the Achilles
is it yay or nay. So the error on this
one's pointing the direction of yay as in yes as
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in absolutely sorry, not sorry. I know how these things work.
We understand how these things work. It is not invalid.
I am not saying that the championship of Oklahoma City
is invalid. That is not what I am saying. Do
not misquote me. What I am merely saying is that
it is diminished. That is my point, okay, And you
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can't fight me on that. That's the reality. Right. Every man,
woman and child knows that was paying any attention to
the NBA files that the moment tyrese Hali and went down,
that's it. It's like taking the engine out of a
car and expecting it to win the Indy five hundred
right now. Maybe once in a while it'll happen, but
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normally you need the engine to win the race. And
that was the moment, by the way, we went and looked.
That's the moment Steven A. Smith started playing Solitaire that
he knew the game was all. He picked up the
solitaire right there, he said, that's it. That's a solitaire moment.
Halliburton is the playmaker. We know that he's the head
of the snake and all those things, and so you
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take him out of the equation, the arithmetic is much
different as obviously much to You're not facing the real
Indiana Pacers at that particular moment, and so that's the reality.
That's not the same test. It's like the questions are
easier at that particular moment. And even with that, Indiana
still had a very slim lead midway through the game.
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So twenty four minutes to go, Indiana had a slight lead.
But don't tell me that this is the same battle
tested Blood Soak Championship Game seven, iron willed win without
Halliburton on the court. It's just not. It's simply not
true by any way you look at it. It's not
true right now. That being said, I know from doing
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this show over the years, and we've been here when
this similar situation has happened, maybe not an achilles injury,
but a major injury in the NBA Finals in my
watch here at Fox Sports Radio behind these microphones. So
we've been here a while. And the thing that I
know about this is it's like the old Tears for
Fear song memories fade, meaning like right now in this moment,
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we will bring this up, we will mention this, we
will say, hey, listen, that's downgraded. But over time it
gets talked about less and less and it just goes
to the back of history and he just kind of
fades away and you'd have to like type it into
chat GPT to kind of get the right answer to that.
But just like Kevin Durant injured his achilles and Klay
Thompson messed up his knee in twenty nineteen, Toronto won
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the championship. It's been six years since that happened. Do
people still bring that up? Now? They don't bring it up.
But the moment it happened, people brought it up. They're like, well,
that's not legit. You know, way back twenty some years ago,
the Pistons, the four Pistons with Rashid Wallace and those
Cats playing the Lakers, and Karl Malone was playing for
the Laker. He got hurt, he messed up his knee,
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if I remember he was injured. They at the time around, well,
there you go, that's why the Pistons were able to win.
But now twenty some years later, people forget about that.
They don't even know about it now. The other part
of this page two, which blows me away, like shiver
me timbers. Right, there are those out there morning after quarterbacks,
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if you will, the morning after this was moments after
the injury, who were going on and on and on
by well Tyree's Halliburton should have never been allowed to play.
Should have never been allowed to play for the Pacers.
It's malfeasance by the Indiana basketball team. They should never
have allowed him on the court. He had a pre
existing condition. Bad job by them. Oh no, right, oh no,
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he popped his achilles in the first quarter. So where
are you at on this one? Where are you at
on those that are screaming this is on the Pacers.
They should not have allowed him to play. Haliburton should
not have been out there. This is one of those
things that blows me away.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I think some of this is actually just people just
busting balls and just probably bought accounts on those social
media channels because it's the freaking finals, Like, what do
you even having that coming? It's a chance to win
a championship. No one, no one misses that game, and
if you missed that game, you might as well retire.
If Halliburton had said I'm not gonna play. I might
pop my achilles. You might as well go get a
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real job. You can't show your face in any gymnasium
anywhere from Maine to Maui. It's over. You have to
play in that game, game seven of the finals. You've
gotta do it. And Halliburton did he and he made
some shots, so he had nine points. He made three
three point shots early. He got hurt. That sucks, and
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that's part of the game. And all these morons, I can't.
I really hope this is not legit all. This is
just like people trolling things like that. I mean, come on,
if there's anyone that actually believes that you have the
greatest loser mentality of all time, science should study you.
You are such a loser that people should study how
big a giant loser you are and how you got
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to that particular point where you wear the giant l
on your forehead because you're a loser. Right again, no
ifs ads or but you got to play. If you're Haliburton,
you cannot not play. You can't. They they have to
amputate you. Let you gotta play, like there's no no,
you can't even in this soft modern world we live,
and you've got to play in Game seven. And for
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those that are, you know, grumbling, and again, I'd like
to think this is all nonsense. Uh play in the game.
Why he wasn't one hundred percent, I would argue, I
don't think I'm wrong on this. What do I know, though,
I do the overnight show that nobody is one hundred percent.
By the time you get the Game seven of the Finals,
you've been playing for eight months of basketball. Although many
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of the players take a lot of time off et cetera.
It's one of those things. You patch it up, you
rub some dirt on it, get some dirt, get some mud,
rub it on there, and you go. And that's what
you're supposed to do. That's you know, gut it out
Game seven NBA Finals. That's what you want Halliburton to do.
What he did it. Now, there is a dimension in
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the multiverse where Halliburton goes out there and he doesn't
pop his achilles, same scenario leading into the game. He
goes out there and plays and plays well, and the
Pacers end up winning Game seven, and rah rah, And
there's a parade in Indianapolis in a couple of days
and all that. So when you dig a little deeper, though,
I had an epiphany as I was cruising over here
to the hallowed hallways of Fox Sports Radio where legends
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like ritur Era and others James Washington used to work
back in the old days here and I was walking
in from the parking lot and I walked by the
trash which hasn't been picked up since Friday. It's a
nice smell, nice aroma. So I walked in there and
I you know what this is. This is the spreadsheet
warriors that have taken over yet again, another example, another example.
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It's been about fifteen years or so since this has
become prevalent in modern sports. That is, the spreadsheet warriors
have led to the brain rot among a segment of
sports fans, the analytical Nerd Society of North America that
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have said, hey, I've got a graph that shows injury assessment,
injury risk assessment, and this guy I cannot play out
of an abundance of caution, cannot do it right, and
they're all up in arms and it's not right. He
didn't follow the probability model. Tyrese Haliburton, I'll dare him
add to that, I say, five. Wait, right, is what
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I say again, Halliburton. If he hadn't played, he'd be
healthy right now, he wouldn't have a pop achilles, and
he would have been haunted by the Kulda would have
should have for the rest of the man's life. In
the end, he's not getting back here. It's not like
the Pacers. It'll be another generation before the Pacers get
back to the NBA files. And you're telling me he
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shouldn't have played, All right, tell me you're dumb. Without
telling me you're dumb right now. Last word, So let's
address the Komodo dragon in the room. Now, what is
the Komodo dragon in the room? Well, the Oklahoma City
Thunder have just won their first championship as the Oklahoma
City Funder. Now some will say, well, I'll go back
to the Sonics. I don't count the ghosts of Seattle
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because I believe it in the next couple of years,
the Sonics will be born again. They will have the
SuperSonics back in Seattle and all the championships and all
the glory. We'll go back to Seattle and all that.
So those ghosts I leave behind the team unceremoniously hijacked
out of the Pacific Northwest, and they abandoned Seattle because
of the oil tyrant that bought the team from the
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Starbucks dopes and then moved it to Oklahoma City. But
now we're hearing the whispers and we're seeing the comments
on social media and the gas bag gasps. Well, they've
already been labeled dynasty. It's they went one championship dynasty.
Here we go, dynasty in the making. Is that how
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you see it? So I'll go first here. I look
at this like a prison camp. Okay, team wins title
and everyone and their mother becomes hypnotized and mesmerized. Prisoners
of the moment, prison camp, prisoners of the moment. Slow down,
have your little champagne there, have you a little parade,
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knock yourself out. The confetti hit you and then let
it hit the ground. At least it can hit you
and then hit the ground and all that stuff, and
you can probably hold off on building a statue for
SGA at least not yet. It's a classic recency bias.
We heard the same things last year with the Boston
Celtics winning the championship. They're on their way now. The
Celtics are going to control the NBA for years to
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come because they have Tatum and Brown and oh my
god and all that stuff. Now, one ring does not
become the forecast for three or four or five and
one finals, MVP Award, you don't become the face of
the NBA. You're not catapulted up to that level. And
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Sam Presty my got he's got the cleanest ass in
the NBA. Every TV guy, every media guy in the
NBA has been kissing Sam Presty's ass, going on and
on the executive for Oklahoma City. But they suddenly the
new gold standard and all that stuff makes me want
to puke in my mouth. The dynasty stuff is rather ridiculous.
Those require something called repetition, which is the problem. Relevance
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over the period of time more than I don't know,
one year, and they are earned because of overcoming injury
like surgeries and players getting you know, getting unhappy. They're
in a small town. They want to go somewhere else.
You also have the salary cap. You've got to juggle
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because everyone's gonna get a lot more money and all that.
So I just don't see it. For the thunder, I
don't I don't see it. I maybe I'm wrong. I
don't see them as a dynasty. They can prove me
wrong if they want. You'll run it back, do it again.
But even that's not a dynasty. You gotta do it
at least a couple more times, and do it when
guys get hurt, go out and win again with injuries, right,
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and when contracts expire and players demand, hey, I want
more money. The disease of me. Pat Riley used to
talk about that egos getting away all that stuff, and
when you're being targeted and you're not the fresh faced underdog,
upstart team and you have nothing to lose and all that. Now,
as for the building of the roster, I would like
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to address that. Have the Thunder crack the code? Have
they given us the blueprint that all the other NBA
teams are gonna copy? That would be a no, no way.
The Thunder. I look at them like in baseball, the
Tampa Bay Race. These are two teams that can do
what they have done because of where they are. The
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Thunder are like the Tampa Bay Rays in baseball. It's
Frankenstein's Lab, is what it is. You've got no media pressure.
It's a podunk town Oklahoma City you've got that small
town fan base that's just happy they have pro sports there.
You've got zero pressure and you can trade away and
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just play the lottery game, lottery ball for years to come.
I can do that. That playbook will not work in
a big league city. Right in a big league city,
there will be pressure to have star players. There will
be pressured to have success, and you will become irrelevant
because the word apathy will apply. If you try to
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do that, people will come apoplectic, they will not watch
your product. You will become irrelevant. You can't do it,
you can't get away with it. But a time like
Oklahoma City, you can do it. Just like the Tampa
Bay Race. They don't nobody cares. They just they have
a good team every year. But they don't have stars.
And they get stars, they get rid of them and
that's it. That's that. Now, what about the dopes and
I'm getting some of this crap. They're like cockroaches. They
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come out here and they're like, oh, man, thiss, gotta
be a tough day for the Clippers, you know, ripping
like somehow I'm the spokesman for the Clippers, which I'm not.
I don't trust man, I don't go to those games
much anymore. I used to back in the day. I
hope the Clippers do well, but the idea and we'll
just address it like this, the dopes that are out there,
what do you make of this? Wow, the Clippers I
should have been their championship. Ain't traded away? SGA. This
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is embarrassing for the Clippers. My god, Now I understand
where this is coming from.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
This.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I love busting balls as much as the next person.
I know that's all you're doing. I get it. You
know who, Miller, you should feel so bad. You know
it's low information trolling at its finest, and that's really
what social media is all about. I get it. You
know you're just busting chop. You know you couldn't name
two guys on the Clippers or the Thunder. It's revisionist history.
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And to say that the Clippers shouldn't have made that trade,
I would have made that trade one hundred out of
one hundred times. Even after Oklahoma seid. He just won
the championship, right as em and m crooned no regrets? Right.
Kawhi Leonard was the player everyone won. Every single team
in the NBA won and Kawhi Leonard the price of admission.
It was a claw game. To get the claw. He said,
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I want Paul George, which is a dumb decision, but
that's his choice. That's his choice, says, I want Paul
Paul George Blouse. But that's who Kawhi Leonard wants. So
you trade Sga. That's it. That's the price of admission
fresh off a title in Toronto. That's what you had
to do. You do it every single time. You don't
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look back. That's it. And you make that trade, and
you know the Clippers they're still relevant and they'll be
a contender for the foreseeable future where they have a
legit owner and all that. But of course you'd make
that trade. And Sga hasn't become what he became with
the Clippers. He would never become that with the Clippers.
So it's ridiculous anyway. It is the Ben Mahlor Show.
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King Rory right since says the Pacers were never going
to win the NBA Finals even if Tyreese Halliburton wasn't injured.
The NBA was going to let the Thunder lose. Wasn't
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going to let the Thunder lose the NBA Cup and
the finals, Plus the NBA wanted the home team to win.
Black Magic doesn't work on Sundays. Well, you'd argue that
black magic didn't work, that somebody used a voodoo doll
and did in Tyreese Halliburton. That someone went out and
bought a voodoo doll and that did in Halliburton. Boom done.
See you later. Jeremy says, do you think the Rockheads
(24:40):
gave up too much for a slowing down Kevin Durant?
He says, we'll have more on that, Jeremy an ho
or two the full male monologue on the latest Kevin
Durant trade. We've become masters over the years on Kevin
Durant trade monologues because it happens every couple of years.
There you go. Brian says the Curse of the Lakers
benefits OKC. He points out that mister Alex Caruso, former Laker,
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helped them win their first ever championship. That's correct, Brian,
what a dumb decision by the Lakers to get let
Alex Caruso go back in the day. Nature Boy rights
and says the haters are just jealous about the Clippers,
especially if their team is just watching the playoffs like
the rest of us. A fer dog right since says
fully agree on Okse's title being diminished due to Haliban's injury,
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but it's not diminished nearly as much as the Lakers
Mickey Mouse Championship. No title will ever be worth less
than that one. Well, that is correct because that was
the easiest of all time to win. You had four
months off before the playoffs. Easy, no travel, right, no
late night flights, no hotels you got to check into.
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You were at a resort. You ad a Mickey Mouse resort.
The only thing that could have stopped the Lakers is
if Goofy had gotten out in the court and trip them.
That would have been a problem. Let's see who else
do we have a page? And Shane and de Moyes says,
now the NBA Finals are over, let's discuss the Liberty
versus Storm and I'll I'll let Jason Smith and harming.
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Those guys handle that. I'm good. They can take that.
I'll give that content to them. See super marg Steve says,
Lebron said he should have a statue in front of
Staples Center and he only has a half championship. Well
that's true, he does only have a half championship. Why
doesn't Lebron build his own statue. I just build his
own statue and that's it. And well it is appropriate
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Lebron would get a statue because the Lakers play on
skid row, So you build that statue right there on
skid row in La. Let's see. Uncle Mark says, should
the Clippers give James harden and the contract extension, He's
going to ask for one. I wouldn't, but they will.
He'll stick around. He's not going anywhere. Let' syllo to
a man who is beating and broken as he is
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a longtime Indiana Pacer fan, and he would have given
up his achilles, but they didn't ask for it. Our
friend Shawn the hood Guy. Hello, Sean the hood Guy.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Yeah, I know you want to dance on my gram.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
No, No, never do that. You know, I'm not like that.
What music would you like? Ben? How about some polka music.
Do you have any polk I'll do a nice polka
the song there a little Poka day.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Already, know, man, listen, I.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Wanted the Pacers to wait. I was hoping they wouldn't win.
You know, Hey, kick your legs in the air, right
on the grave of the Pacers. Shot in, Fred, shot
in Floyd, shot in Foyd. Go the Pacers.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Okay, I get it, man, I gets a good night
for you. But if he went to win down, man,
it'd be a different story. I guarantee that, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
But well, he had he had to play. He had
to play right. Well, you got hurt. He had to play. People,
you shouldn't play this dumbased the dumbest thing I've heard
in months. And I heard a lot of dumb stuff
every day. I hear dumb stuff that's so stupid.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Yeah, he had to play, like you said, would have
started been circling around him. So he had to do something, man.
But he went out, and we never know. Man, it
took us twenty five years to get back to the finals.
You know, I don't know if the Pacers got a
curse on them, because we could have won the finals
and O five. But the whole team got suspended. Then
when it first started, our Regi Miller couldn't get past Chicago.
(28:17):
Then we just had bad luck with the Lakers too much,
Shaq and Kobe. So it's hard, man, It's just not
easy to get back there. So we're not even guaranteed
to make it back there next year. Nobody's guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Well you're not. I mean, Halliburn's would be out pretty
much all next year, so you're not even make the
playoffs next year.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
He played a great game. They should keep that guy.
They should bring the team back, but add one more
piece to the team because it I only seen a
big two. Okay, okay, see had a big three. You
need a big three nowadays in this time of area
to win the games.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I don't know how about medium size three. I don't
know that I'd go big three.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
If something some guys with some hearts, you guys with
some dog in him or some kind of you know,
some kind of mama mental. That's what we need sometime, man.
So I don't know. I'm not gonna guarantee we're gonna
get back next year and win.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
It all, but I'll guarantee you won't get back how
about that. I'm garm right now. I guarutee, I guarutee.
The Pacers will not sniff the finals.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
I'm not guaranteeing either, but I'm gonna tell you like
this I can get. I'm gonna get my revenge from
football season.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
So you, oh yeah, well what kind of revenge a
you're gonna get? I gotta hear about this here.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
We don't get revenge because everybody downs us. They didn't think, oh, well,
you know he's gonna come He might come in and
get hurt, but we gotta pass.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
You're talking about Aaron Rodgers. For those that doesn't know
Sean the Hood guy, he likes the Pacers, but he's
also a big Steeler guy.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Thank you, sir. We're gonna be talking more heavenly all listen.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I'll be I'm here every night. You know where to
find me.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Many but tomorrow night I probably call back and get
you an exclusive Tails from the Hood tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
All right, good see that's something to look forward to.
Tails from the Hood. I love it. All right, thank you,
gud all right, I gotta go, but thank you. There's
get Sean the Hood Guy checking in.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Start out with it a pacer guy. Why not absolutely super?
Marcus Steve says, I hate to touch up your work man,
but the O four Pistons won because Kobe decided that
he was the star and he didn't want Shack to
win another MVP. Karl Malone played just fine. Now, Karl
Malone was hurt the entire series. He missed the final game.
And it's it's not just my opinion. Gary Payton, you asked,
(30:21):
Gary pay I remember Gary Payton, He said, listen. If
Malone didn't got hurt, they would have won. Gary Payton,
Hall of Famer, said that. Scrooge says that bet Fine
avenues Si because he was hurt. Coop Yeah, fad the
entire series. So if he had been able to be healthy, right,
if he had been healthy and played like car like
he was older at that point, the Lakers would have
(30:41):
would have won, that said Scrooge, says Ben after listening
to the Fifth Hour podcast every weekend, Uh, will you
be bringing your son Ferg Dog on? Uh? Bring your
kid to work day? I don't know. I've never met
Ferg Dog, so I don't know I've invited Ferg Dog.
He can come in here anytime he wants he's more
than welcome. Let's go back to the phones. Will say
hello to Eenie Meenie miney mo. Let's say hello to Brett,
(31:05):
who's in Nashville. Hello, Brett, Welcome, what's up Benny.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
It's good to have you back, Bud.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Thank you. I've been I've been here. The phones haven't
been working, but I've been here.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Oh I missed your actually you know photos closure, I
missed you, malamnologue. I just got back in the office
for like twenty five after and I heard what.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
You what are you getting to the office at this time?
For what kind of work do you?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
This is this is the this is the calls given
high time because it's like once a year. But I
work at the prison.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Okay, okay, I I remember you. I got you. I
like that. You call that an office. I like that.
That's quite the office you work out.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I actually have an office. Yeah, but it's it's it's
not I'm not on the unit. I just got around
and do some stuff, pick up paperwork, make sure everything's fun.
And then I came back here and I'm like, oh,
Ben's back. I got a call and say welcome back.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You go well, thank you?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah man, yeah, it was it's good. Good to hear
you work. Good to hear back on the air, very entertaining.
I do you know, I heard what you said, mister monologue,
but I heard the last caller as far as you know,
he did have to play. And you know, I just
obviously heard that on the radio, you know, I was
following along, actually listened to the same station FSR, and
they were just giving tidbits here and there, and they
said when he got hurt, he was three for four,
(32:15):
had nailed three threes in the first seven minutes. And
it's like, you can't help but think if he would
have played, they would have had a hell of a
chance to win, you know, And it's it's it's disappointing.
But when he did have to play, But those calf injuries,
it does seem like in every sport Jalen Phillips with
the Dolphins, that these calf injuries when they just juice
(32:36):
them up with anti anti inflammatories and tell them to
go play, a lot of them lead to Achilles ruptures,
you know. I mean, we see it and it's like, God,
it's Game seven, you gotta play. But it's like, how
many times are we going to see these calf injuries
turn into Achilles ruptures, you know, without well those.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Great experts of medicine who are on social media who
claimed that if there's certain exercise as you can do
and you will avoid the the calf injury. Of course
they're on social media, so who knows if they're actually
right or not, but they swear are there's certain exercises
these guys aren't doing. And if they just did those,
you wouldn't have it. Because I don't recall this being
a regular thing. Like we have had three players in
the NBA postseason now that's over, Snap, crackle pop. You
(33:19):
had Tatum Halliburton and Dame Lillard all suffered popped achilles.
Three three star brand players in one postseason. A problem.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Do you remember if if they had calf strange prior,
because yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Well Lillard, I know Lillard did, and then I don't
know for sure with Tatum, but he did before he
got hurt. He was kind of dinged up and then
he was kind of grabbing his leg a little bit
and then he and you.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Know, you remember Jalen Phillips ND for the Dolphins eat
same thing. Calf strain kept playing and then pomp did
and what happens when you do when you strain your cap.
It's a little tear.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Well, I want you to know, and I want this
to be clear, Brad. I've done talk and I've had
a calf, a sore calf, and I have not popped
my achilles. I've done four hours of talk radio with
a achilles with a calf injury, my calvel, little pain
in there.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
The level of agility that it takes is amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
It's mind blowing, he said, not mind blowing to sit
here and just be a gash bag all night. It's not.
This job is not that easy.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I enjoy it. I know.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Well, thank you all right, well appreciate I have a
safe night there, and thank you for enjoying your office.
At the prison there, there's a Brett checking in. He
used to have this guy called from Illinois, older guy,
years ago and he's retired. I don't know what he
still listens. He's still around. I don't know. I spent
a long time and he said. I remember asking him.
I said, what do you do as I work at
(34:42):
a prison? I said, well, okay, what are you doing?
I'm an adult, I'm an adult babysitters What he said that
was I babysit adults to keep getting in trouble. Yep,
that's what he was saying, keeping eye on the Do
you think you'd like that job, to be a prison guard? Yeah,
that's not high on my list. Uh, you know, I
would hit my baton on all the bars.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Ding ding.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I don't think it's like that though. I don't and
that's only the movies they did it. I don't think
that's I don't think it's like the real life. They
like doors, Yeah, I don't think they do the thing there. Yeah,
that's the way. Oh, I got to get to play
the night in there and then we'll do this Aspisco's
out especially a special late night dedication to Sean the
Hood Guy and all the other Pacer fans. Let's go
back tire rack Play of the night NBA Finals Oklahoma
(35:28):
City and how did it end?
Speaker 6 (35:31):
Thunder fans feel this moment the uncommon young team proves
to be unstoppable.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
It's over the pickoff center final in Game seven, the Thunder.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
One O three the Pacers ninety one, but dream realize
the Storybooks season is complete. The Finals, Otter Reids the
Oklahoma City Thunder Old there twenty twenty five NBA Champions.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
All Right, my buddy Matt Pintol former Clipper broadcast by
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Be.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
As we press on, we'll push back the story for
ratings purposes on a flash card fun We'll get to
that coming up in a little bit time. Now for
the who Am I?
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Game?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
And this is where we pretend to be somebody else?
So okay, sees Shade jogis Alexander with three thousand, one
hundred and sixty eight points and the regular season playoffs
combined the ninth most points ever, trailing only Michael Jordan,
who had four seasons with more points, Wilt Chamberlain who
had three, and me who again SGA of the thunder
(36:54):
three thousand, one hundred and sixty eight points and the
regular season playoffs combined night most ever in pro basketball,
trailing Michael Jordan who had four seasons, greater Wilt Chamberlain
who had three, and me, who am I? That is
the question? The answer will get to it. We will
do it next.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
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Thank God for the Internet.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
All right, back to it we go, and time now
for the payoff on the who Am I? Game? Oklahoma
City and former Clipper Shay jogas Alexander three hundred sixty
eight points not a household name, three one hundred sixty
eight points the Canadian lad in the regular season playoffs Comby.
That's the ninth most ever in pro bouncy ball history.
(38:30):
Trailing guy named Michael Jordan, who did it four times
where we had more than that, Wilt Chamberlain who had
three times with more than that, and me, who am I?
That is the question. What is the answer? Scrooge is
going with Captain Morgan as his answer. Josh the long
suffering Bears fan in Nebraska says, Lebron James. Who else?
(38:55):
Malaprop guy says, Mike the Leprechaun visiting the Fox Sports
radio studios in less than two weeks? Oh no, is
that right? I didn't get the exact date on that,
but I guess it is coming up in less than
two weeks. Femi, the number one uber each driver in
Minnesota's going with Tom Brady is his answer, Juan Berengere.
Great name from mister nice guy eighties and early nineties baseball.
(39:17):
Frank Lucas from mister Luciano. Not a bad name either.
Hot Rod Hunley, the longtime voice of the Utah Jazz
For me, how'd you get that video of hot Rod
Hunley looking good? Jerry Ceasing from alf the alien O Pioneer,
one of the past of the Celtics. Shane in Des Moines,
says Hayes in Minnesota who did call last week and
(39:40):
then didn't stay on hold and hung up. Bad job
by him. Eachi row Canoe Hernandez from Robbie the Mariner
fan also a fun, fun name. Who else do we have?
Page dan See can't read that on the air? Andy
in Lino Lakes, Minnesota going with Doris Burke, Oh my
go god, you love her. I think we're done watching
(40:04):
Doris in the finals. I think, I mean, I don't
know how we can go on without her. Fortunately, nobody
saw her in the finals, which is good for the NBA.
Nicholas Batoum from Robin, Minnesota. Not a bad name. Clipper legend.
Who else do we have? Dick Snyder of the SuperSonics
in nineteen seventy nine guests by Bay City Tony club set.
(40:24):
Former Fox Sports radio personality Cedric Sabalos guests by James.
That's his answer, Richie Rich from Slim Tim and we
have Shaq Prescott from Natron Who else, Kareem Abdul jabong
Rip from Manuelan Guardina, Curtis Mayfield whom Johnny Q teen
Wolfe guessed by Arturo that's his answer? Else? Do we
(40:49):
have their page? Dan Boso says, as horrible as your
calf injury sounds, I once did an eight hour shift
at a desk job with hemorrhoids. That does sound bad.
A flight one time I had a bladder infection. I
kept every over the bathroom. It was terrible. Do you
have an answer there, Lorena, I was gonna guess fible
Ben Okay, that's I don't know what that is. Back
(41:09):
to okay, I know the correct answer is Rick Barry.
Do you know who Rick Berry is? No chance? Well,
people used to goof on him. He shot his foul
shots underhand, grandma style, but he made it a play
for the Golden State Warriors back in the seventies. Man,
long time, who Rick Barry? Who? Rick Barry? I said,
(41:30):
the name rick Berry,
We go. Welcome. It's our number, bar what our number
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It is the twenty third day of June. We are
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hour number one the NBA Finals Game seven, the star
of the show yay or nay on Oklahoma Cities Championship
for Shay jogis Alexander's Thunder downgraded because of the Tyres
(00:44):
Halliburton achilles injury early in game number seven. Also, now
we're getting the morning After quarterbacks saying that Halliburton never
should have been allowed to play for the Pacers. Oh no,
he popped his achilles aware are you on this one?
The Thunder also just winning their first championship since since.
(01:06):
Now we'll count the sonic days. Now there's whispers and
there's gonna be a dynasty. This, that and the other
thing how do you see it? We'll talk about that. Also,
have the thunder become the new blueprint, the model for
other NBA teams to copy. And what about the dopes
ripping the clippers for trading SGA, the trolls crawling out
(01:27):
from behind the refrigerator. We'll talk about all that and more.
Right now, settle in for our number one. If you
liked the NBA Finals, you're bummed out. There's no more games.
It's all over. Stick a fork in and it's done.
Welcome in the beginning of a brand new week of
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the lead, mom, man. We'll go to the interstate. And
if you had the NBA Finals having a classic Game seven,
you are a loser.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Much of the chatter that people are excited about is
not Game seven. It's the Kevin Durant trade. Durant every
three years is traded. This time he goes to Houston.
More buzz on that we'll talk about as we go
through the overnight. But it was the end of the
road for pro bouncy ball. That's all she wrote. The
NBA regular season, I went back and I looked, began
(03:33):
two hundred and forty four days prior to Sunday, two
hundred and forty four days. It began with the Knickerbockers
playing the then reigning champion Boston Celtics back in October
October twenty second before Halloween of last year, and it
ended exactly eight months later to the day. Eight months later,
(03:55):
the thunder and Pacers brought the curtain down. They didn't
bring the house down. They brought the curtain down on
there in the NBA Finals, Game seven, Small market, Small
Market NBA Finals. Were you watching? Were you no? You
were not watching. I've seen the ratings. No one was watching.
There were seven people watching. That's it. But we watched.
(04:16):
It's our good mits for the day. We checked it
out so you would not have to. And what happened
well in game seven. The thing everyone's talking about is
not the game itself, something that happened early in the game.
But in the end, Shade jogis Alexander. He was inefficient,
but he had twenty nine points and ends up winning
the Finals MVP award as OKC pulls away in the
(04:41):
third quarter and cements the lead in the fourth quarter
and they zoom passed a short handed Pacer team one
to oh, three to ninety one turn out the last
the parties over for Indiana and for Oklahoma for that matter.
Game seven of the NBA Finals in the books now SGA.
(05:02):
He needed twenty seven shots to get to twenty nine points.
In game seven. I'm told that is not particularly good,
but it didn't matter. He still won the MVP eight
of twenty seven. That's my computer like brain tells me.
Twenty nine point six percent from the floor, nineteen misshots
in game seven, and he still ends up winning the
(05:22):
finals MVP, which is the full body of work. But
the story here is the injury and how it impacts
the outcome of this game. So let us discuss yay
or nay? The Oklahoma City Thunder Championship for Shay Jogas
Alexander downgraded, downgraded because of the Tyrese Haliburt and achilles
(05:44):
injury in the first quarter of the close out final
game of this series. So I've got tears for fears, spreadsheet,
and prison camp and we will combine all of these
things together and we are going to make a nice
banana cream pie that you can throw in someone's face
(06:05):
if you want. I don't care. So a to answer
the question, the Championship for Oklahoma City yay or nay?
The Shay Joggis Alexander Championship for the Thunder downgraded because
of the injury to Tyrese Haliburton, pop goes the Achilles
is it yay or nay. So the error on this
one's pointing the direction of yay as in yes as
(06:28):
in absolutely sorry, not sorry. I know how these things work.
We understand how these things work. It is not invalid.
I am not saying that the championship of Oklahoma City
is invalid. That is not what I am saying. Do
not misquote me. What I am merely saying is that
it is diminished. That is my point, okay, And you
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can't fight me on that. That's the reality. Right. Every man,
woman and child knows that was paying any attention to
the NBA files that the moment tyrese Hali and went down,
that's it. It's like taking the engine out of a
car and expecting it to win the Indy five hundred
right now. Maybe once in a while it'll happen, but
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normally you need the engine to win the race. And
that was the moment, by the way, we went and looked.
That's the moment Steven A. Smith started playing Solitaire that
he knew the game was all. He picked up the
solitaire right there, he said, that's it. That's a solitaire moment.
Halliburton is the playmaker. We know that he's the head
of the snake and all those things, and so you
(07:30):
take him out of the equation, the arithmetic is much
different as obviously much to You're not facing the real
Indiana Pacers at that particular moment, and so that's the reality.
That's not the same test. It's like the questions are
easier at that particular moment. And even with that, Indiana
still had a very slim lead midway through the game.
(07:52):
So twenty four minutes to go, Indiana had a slight lead.
But don't tell me that this is the same battle
tested Blood Soak Championship Game seven, iron willed win without
Halliburton on the court. It's just not. It's simply not
true by any way you look at it. It's not
true right now. That being said, I know from doing
(08:15):
this show over the years, and we've been here when
this similar situation has happened, maybe not an achilles injury,
but a major injury in the NBA Finals in my
watch here at Fox Sports Radio behind these microphones. So
we've been here a while. And the thing that I
know about this is it's like the old Tears for
Fear song memories fade, meaning like right now in this moment,
(08:37):
we will bring this up, we will mention this, we
will say, hey, listen, that's downgraded. But over time it
gets talked about less and less and it just goes
to the back of history and he just kind of
fades away and you'd have to like type it into
chat GPT to kind of get the right answer to that.
But just like Kevin Durant injured his achilles and Klay
Thompson messed up his knee in twenty nineteen, Toronto won
(09:00):
the championship. It's been six years since that happened. Do
people still bring that up? Now? They don't bring it up.
But the moment it happened, people brought it up. They're like, well,
that's not legit. You know, way back twenty some years ago,
the Pistons, the four Pistons with Rashid Wallace and those
Cats playing the Lakers, and Karl Malone was playing for
the Laker. He got hurt, he messed up his knee,
(09:22):
if I remember he was injured. They at the time around, well,
there you go, that's why the Pistons were able to win.
But now twenty some years later, people forget about that.
They don't even know about it now. The other part
of this page two, which blows me away, like shiver
me timbers. Right, there are those out there morning after quarterbacks,
(09:44):
if you will, the morning after this was moments after
the injury, who were going on and on and on
by well Tyree's Halliburton should have never been allowed to play.
Should have never been allowed to play for the Pacers.
It's malfeasance by the Indiana basketball team. They should never
have allowed him on the court. He had a pre
existing condition. Bad job by them. Oh no, right, oh no,
(10:10):
he popped his achilles in the first quarter. So where
are you at on this one? Where are you at
on those that are screaming this is on the Pacers.
They should not have allowed him to play. Haliburton should
not have been out there. This is one of those
things that blows me away.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I think some of this is actually just people just
busting balls and just probably bought accounts on those social
media channels because it's the freaking finals, Like, what do
you even having that coming? It's a chance to win
a championship. No one, no one misses that game, and
if you missed that game, you might as well retire.
If Halliburton had said I'm not gonna play. I might
pop my achilles. You might as well go get a
(10:49):
real job. You can't show your face in any gymnasium
anywhere from Maine to Maui. It's over. You have to
play in that game, game seven of the finals. You've
gotta do it. And Halliburton did he and he made
some shots, so he had nine points. He made three
three point shots early. He got hurt. That sucks, and
(11:11):
that's part of the game. And all these morons, I can't.
I really hope this is not legit all. This is
just like people trolling things like that. I mean, come on,
if there's anyone that actually believes that you have the
greatest loser mentality of all time, science should study you.
You are such a loser that people should study how
big a giant loser you are and how you got
(11:32):
to that particular point where you wear the giant l
on your forehead because you're a loser. Right again, no
ifs ads or but you got to play. If you're Haliburton,
you cannot not play. You can't. They they have to
amputate you. Let you gotta play, like there's no no,
you can't even in this soft modern world we live,
and you've got to play in Game seven. And for
(11:54):
those that are, you know, grumbling, and again, I'd like
to think this is all nonsense. Uh play in the game.
Why he wasn't one hundred percent, I would argue, I
don't think I'm wrong on this. What do I know, though,
I do the overnight show that nobody is one hundred percent.
By the time you get the Game seven of the Finals,
you've been playing for eight months of basketball. Although many
(12:17):
of the players take a lot of time off et cetera.
It's one of those things. You patch it up, you
rub some dirt on it, get some dirt, get some mud,
rub it on there, and you go. And that's what
you're supposed to do. That's you know, gut it out
Game seven NBA Finals. That's what you want Halliburton to do.
What he did it. Now, there is a dimension in
(12:37):
the multiverse where Halliburton goes out there and he doesn't
pop his achilles, same scenario leading into the game. He
goes out there and plays and plays well, and the
Pacers end up winning Game seven, and rah rah, And
there's a parade in Indianapolis in a couple of days
and all that. So when you dig a little deeper, though,
I had an epiphany as I was cruising over here
to the hallowed hallways of Fox Sports Radio where legends
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like ritur Era and others James Washington used to work
back in the old days here and I was walking
in from the parking lot and I walked by the
trash which hasn't been picked up since Friday. It's a
nice smell, nice aroma. So I walked in there and
I you know what this is. This is the spreadsheet
warriors that have taken over yet again, another example, another example.
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It's been about fifteen years or so since this has
become prevalent in modern sports. That is, the spreadsheet warriors
have led to the brain rot among a segment of
sports fans, the analytical Nerd Society of North America that
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have said, hey, I've got a graph that shows injury assessment,
injury risk assessment, and this guy I cannot play out
of an abundance of caution, cannot do it right, and
they're all up in arms and it's not right. He
didn't follow the probability model. Tyrese Haliburton, I'll dare him
add to that, I say, five. Wait, right, is what
(14:09):
I say again, Halliburton. If he hadn't played, he'd be
healthy right now, he wouldn't have a pop achilles, and
he would have been haunted by the Kulda would have
should have for the rest of the man's life. In
the end, he's not getting back here. It's not like
the Pacers. It'll be another generation before the Pacers get
back to the NBA files. And you're telling me he
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shouldn't have played, All right, tell me you're dumb. Without
telling me you're dumb right now. Last word, So let's
address the Komodo dragon in the room. Now, what is
the Komodo dragon in the room? Well, the Oklahoma City
Thunder have just won their first championship as the Oklahoma
City Funder. Now some will say, well, I'll go back
to the Sonics. I don't count the ghosts of Seattle
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because I believe it in the next couple of years,
the Sonics will be born again. They will have the
SuperSonics back in Seattle and all the championships and all
the glory. We'll go back to Seattle and all that.
So those ghosts I leave behind the team unceremoniously hijacked
out of the Pacific Northwest, and they abandoned Seattle because
of the oil tyrant that bought the team from the
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Starbucks dopes and then moved it to Oklahoma City. But
now we're hearing the whispers and we're seeing the comments
on social media and the gas bag gasps. Well, they've
already been labeled dynasty. It's they went one championship dynasty.
Here we go, dynasty in the making. Is that how
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you see it? So I'll go first here. I look
at this like a prison camp. Okay, team wins title
and everyone and their mother becomes hypnotized and mesmerized. Prisoners
of the moment, prison camp, prisoners of the moment. Slow down,
have your little champagne there, have you a little parade,
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knock yourself out. The confetti hit you and then let
it hit the ground. At least it can hit you
and then hit the ground and all that stuff, and
you can probably hold off on building a statue for
SGA at least not yet. It's a classic recency bias.
We heard the same things last year with the Boston
Celtics winning the championship. They're on their way now. The
Celtics are going to control the NBA for years to
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come because they have Tatum and Brown and oh my
god and all that stuff. Now, one ring does not
become the forecast for three or four or five and
one finals, MVP Award, you don't become the face of
the NBA. You're not catapulted up to that level. And
(16:44):
Sam Presty my got he's got the cleanest ass in
the NBA. Every TV guy, every media guy in the
NBA has been kissing Sam Presty's ass, going on and
on the executive for Oklahoma City. But they suddenly the
new gold standard and all that stuff makes me want
to puke in my mouth. The dynasty stuff is rather ridiculous.
Those require something called repetition, which is the problem. Relevance
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over the period of time more than I don't know,
one year, and they are earned because of overcoming injury
like surgeries and players getting you know, getting unhappy. They're
in a small town. They want to go somewhere else.
You also have the salary cap. You've got to juggle
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because everyone's gonna get a lot more money and all that.
So I just don't see it. For the thunder, I
don't I don't see it. I maybe I'm wrong. I
don't see them as a dynasty. They can prove me
wrong if they want. You'll run it back, do it again.
But even that's not a dynasty. You gotta do it
at least a couple more times, and do it when
guys get hurt, go out and win again with injuries, right,
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and when contracts expire and players demand, hey, I want
more money. The disease of me. Pat Riley used to
talk about that egos getting away all that stuff, and
when you're being targeted and you're not the fresh faced underdog,
upstart team and you have nothing to lose and all that. Now,
as for the building of the roster, I would like
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to address that. Have the Thunder crack the code? Have
they given us the blueprint that all the other NBA
teams are gonna copy? That would be a no, no way.
The Thunder. I look at them like in baseball, the
Tampa Bay Race. These are two teams that can do
what they have done because of where they are. The
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Thunder are like the Tampa Bay Rays in baseball. It's
Frankenstein's Lab, is what it is. You've got no media pressure.
It's a podunk town Oklahoma City you've got that small
town fan base that's just happy they have pro sports there.
You've got zero pressure and you can trade away and
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just play the lottery game, lottery ball for years to come.
I can do that. That playbook will not work in
a big league city. Right in a big league city,
there will be pressure to have star players. There will
be pressured to have success, and you will become irrelevant
because the word apathy will apply. If you try to
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do that, people will come apoplectic, they will not watch
your product. You will become irrelevant. You can't do it,
you can't get away with it. But a time like
Oklahoma City, you can do it. Just like the Tampa
Bay Race. They don't nobody cares. They just they have
a good team every year. But they don't have stars.
And they get stars, they get rid of them and
that's it. That's that. Now, what about the dopes and
I'm getting some of this crap. They're like cockroaches. They
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come out here and they're like, oh, man, thiss, gotta
be a tough day for the Clippers, you know, ripping
like somehow I'm the spokesman for the Clippers, which I'm not.
I don't trust man, I don't go to those games
much anymore. I used to back in the day. I
hope the Clippers do well, but the idea and we'll
just address it like this, the dopes that are out there,
what do you make of this? Wow, the Clippers I
should have been their championship. Ain't traded away? SGA. This
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is embarrassing for the Clippers. My god, Now I understand
where this is coming from.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
This.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I love busting balls as much as the next person.
I know that's all you're doing. I get it. You
know who, Miller, you should feel so bad. You know
it's low information trolling at its finest, and that's really
what social media is all about. I get it. You
know you're just busting chop. You know you couldn't name
two guys on the Clippers or the Thunder. It's revisionist history.
(20:31):
And to say that the Clippers shouldn't have made that trade,
I would have made that trade one hundred out of
one hundred times. Even after Oklahoma seid. He just won
the championship, right as em and m crooned no regrets? Right.
Kawhi Leonard was the player everyone won. Every single team
in the NBA won and Kawhi Leonard the price of admission.
It was a claw game. To get the claw. He said,
(20:54):
I want Paul George, which is a dumb decision, but
that's his choice. That's his choice, says, I want Paul
Paul George Blouse. But that's who Kawhi Leonard wants. So
you trade Sga. That's it. That's the price of admission
fresh off a title in Toronto. That's what you had
to do. You do it every single time. You don't
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look back. That's it. And you make that trade, and
you know the Clippers they're still relevant and they'll be
a contender for the foreseeable future where they have a
legit owner and all that. But of course you'd make
that trade. And Sga hasn't become what he became with
the Clippers. He would never become that with the Clippers.
So it's ridiculous anyway. It is the Ben Mahlor Show.
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King Rory right since says the Pacers were never going
to win the NBA Finals even if Tyreese Halliburton wasn't injured.
The NBA was going to let the Thunder lose. Wasn't
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going to let the Thunder lose the NBA Cup and
the finals, Plus the NBA wanted the home team to win.
Black Magic doesn't work on Sundays. Well, you'd argue that
black magic didn't work, that somebody used a voodoo doll
and did in Tyreese Halliburton. That someone went out and
bought a voodoo doll and that did in Halliburton. Boom done.
See you later. Jeremy says, do you think the Rockheads
(24:40):
gave up too much for a slowing down Kevin Durant?
He says, we'll have more on that, Jeremy an ho
or two the full male monologue on the latest Kevin
Durant trade. We've become masters over the years on Kevin
Durant trade monologues because it happens every couple of years.
There you go. Brian says the Curse of the Lakers
benefits OKC. He points out that mister Alex Caruso, former Laker,
(25:05):
helped them win their first ever championship. That's correct, Brian,
what a dumb decision by the Lakers to get let
Alex Caruso go back in the day. Nature Boy rights
and says the haters are just jealous about the Clippers,
especially if their team is just watching the playoffs like
the rest of us. A fer dog right since says
fully agree on Okse's title being diminished due to Haliban's injury,
(25:28):
but it's not diminished nearly as much as the Lakers
Mickey Mouse Championship. No title will ever be worth less
than that one. Well, that is correct because that was
the easiest of all time to win. You had four
months off before the playoffs. Easy, no travel, right, no
late night flights, no hotels you got to check into.
(25:48):
You were at a resort. You ad a Mickey Mouse resort.
The only thing that could have stopped the Lakers is
if Goofy had gotten out in the court and trip them.
That would have been a problem. Let's see who else
do we have a page? And Shane and de Moyes says,
now the NBA Finals are over, let's discuss the Liberty
versus Storm and I'll I'll let Jason Smith and harming.
(26:08):
Those guys handle that. I'm good. They can take that.
I'll give that content to them. See super marg Steve says,
Lebron said he should have a statue in front of
Staples Center and he only has a half championship. Well
that's true, he does only have a half championship. Why
doesn't Lebron build his own statue. I just build his
own statue and that's it. And well it is appropriate
(26:29):
Lebron would get a statue because the Lakers play on
skid row, So you build that statue right there on
skid row in La. Let's see. Uncle Mark says, should
the Clippers give James harden and the contract extension, He's
going to ask for one. I wouldn't, but they will.
He'll stick around. He's not going anywhere. Let' syllo to
a man who is beating and broken as he is
(26:50):
a longtime Indiana Pacer fan, and he would have given
up his achilles, but they didn't ask for it. Our
friend Shawn the hood Guy. Hello, Sean the hood Guy.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Yeah, I know you want to dance on my gram.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
No, No, never do that. You know, I'm not like that.
What music would you like? Ben? How about some polka music.
Do you have any polk I'll do a nice polka
the song there a little Poka day.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Already, know, man, listen, I.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Wanted the Pacers to wait. I was hoping they wouldn't win.
You know, Hey, kick your legs in the air, right
on the grave of the Pacers. Shot in, Fred, shot
in Floyd, shot in Foyd. Go the Pacers.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Okay, I get it, man, I gets a good night
for you. But if he went to win down, man,
it'd be a different story. I guarantee that, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
But well, he had he had to play. He had
to play right. Well, you got hurt. He had to play. People,
you shouldn't play this dumbased the dumbest thing I've heard
in months. And I heard a lot of dumb stuff
every day. I hear dumb stuff that's so stupid.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Yeah, he had to play, like you said, would have
started been circling around him. So he had to do something, man.
But he went out, and we never know. Man, it
took us twenty five years to get back to the finals.
You know, I don't know if the Pacers got a
curse on them, because we could have won the finals
and O five. But the whole team got suspended. Then
when it first started, our Regi Miller couldn't get past Chicago.
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Then we just had bad luck with the Lakers too much,
Shaq and Kobe. So it's hard, man, It's just not
easy to get back there. So we're not even guaranteed
to make it back there next year. Nobody's guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Well you're not. I mean, Halliburn's would be out pretty
much all next year, so you're not even make the
playoffs next year.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
He played a great game. They should keep that guy.
They should bring the team back, but add one more
piece to the team because it I only seen a
big two. Okay, okay, see had a big three. You
need a big three nowadays in this time of area
to win the games.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I don't know how about medium size three. I don't
know that I'd go big three.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
If something some guys with some hearts, you guys with
some dog in him or some kind of you know,
some kind of mama mental. That's what we need sometime, man.
So I don't know. I'm not gonna guarantee we're gonna
get back next year and win.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
It all, but I'll guarantee you won't get back how
about that. I'm garm right now. I guarutee, I guarutee.
The Pacers will not sniff the finals.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
I'm not guaranteeing either, but I'm gonna tell you like
this I can get. I'm gonna get my revenge from
football season.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
So you, oh yeah, well what kind of revenge a
you're gonna get? I gotta hear about this here.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
We don't get revenge because everybody downs us. They didn't think, oh, well,
you know he's gonna come He might come in and
get hurt, but we gotta pass.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
You're talking about Aaron Rodgers. For those that doesn't know
Sean the Hood guy, he likes the Pacers, but he's
also a big Steeler guy.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Thank you, sir. We're gonna be talking more heavenly all listen.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I'll be I'm here every night. You know where to
find me.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Many but tomorrow night I probably call back and get
you an exclusive Tails from the Hood tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
All right, good see that's something to look forward to.
Tails from the Hood. I love it. All right, thank you,
gud all right, I gotta go, but thank you. There's
get Sean the Hood Guy checking in.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Start out with it a pacer guy. Why not absolutely super?
Marcus Steve says, I hate to touch up your work man,
but the O four Pistons won because Kobe decided that
he was the star and he didn't want Shack to
win another MVP. Karl Malone played just fine. Now, Karl
Malone was hurt the entire series. He missed the final game.
And it's it's not just my opinion. Gary Payton, you asked,
(30:21):
Gary pay I remember Gary Payton, He said, listen. If
Malone didn't got hurt, they would have won. Gary Payton,
Hall of Famer, said that. Scrooge says that bet Fine
avenues Si because he was hurt. Coop Yeah, fad the
entire series. So if he had been able to be healthy, right,
if he had been healthy and played like car like
he was older at that point, the Lakers would have
(30:41):
would have won, that said Scrooge, says Ben after listening
to the Fifth Hour podcast every weekend, Uh, will you
be bringing your son Ferg Dog on? Uh? Bring your
kid to work day? I don't know. I've never met
Ferg Dog, so I don't know I've invited Ferg Dog.
He can come in here anytime he wants he's more
than welcome. Let's go back to the phones. Will say
hello to Eenie Meenie miney mo. Let's say hello to Brett,
(31:05):
who's in Nashville. Hello, Brett, Welcome, what's up Benny.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
It's good to have you back, Bud.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Thank you. I've been I've been here. The phones haven't
been working, but I've been here.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Oh I missed your actually you know photos closure, I
missed you, malamnologue. I just got back in the office
for like twenty five after and I heard what.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
You what are you getting to the office at this time?
For what kind of work do you?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
This is this is the this is the calls given
high time because it's like once a year. But I
work at the prison.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Okay, okay, I I remember you. I got you. I
like that. You call that an office. I like that.
That's quite the office you work out.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I actually have an office. Yeah, but it's it's it's
not I'm not on the unit. I just got around
and do some stuff, pick up paperwork, make sure everything's fun.
And then I came back here and I'm like, oh,
Ben's back. I got a call and say welcome back.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You go well, thank you?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah man, yeah, it was it's good. Good to hear
you work. Good to hear back on the air, very entertaining.
I do you know, I heard what you said, mister monologue,
but I heard the last caller as far as you know,
he did have to play. And you know, I just
obviously heard that on the radio, you know, I was
following along, actually listened to the same station FSR, and
they were just giving tidbits here and there, and they
said when he got hurt, he was three for four,
(32:15):
had nailed three threes in the first seven minutes. And
it's like, you can't help but think if he would
have played, they would have had a hell of a
chance to win, you know, And it's it's it's disappointing.
But when he did have to play, But those calf injuries,
it does seem like in every sport Jalen Phillips with
the Dolphins, that these calf injuries when they just juice
(32:36):
them up with anti anti inflammatories and tell them to
go play, a lot of them lead to Achilles ruptures,
you know. I mean, we see it and it's like, God,
it's Game seven, you gotta play. But it's like, how
many times are we going to see these calf injuries
turn into Achilles ruptures, you know, without well those.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Great experts of medicine who are on social media who
claimed that if there's certain exercise as you can do
and you will avoid the the calf injury. Of course
they're on social media, so who knows if they're actually
right or not, but they swear are there's certain exercises
these guys aren't doing. And if they just did those,
you wouldn't have it. Because I don't recall this being
a regular thing. Like we have had three players in
the NBA postseason now that's over, Snap, crackle pop. You
(33:19):
had Tatum Halliburton and Dame Lillard all suffered popped achilles.
Three three star brand players in one postseason. A problem.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Do you remember if if they had calf strange prior,
because yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Well Lillard, I know Lillard did, and then I don't
know for sure with Tatum, but he did before he
got hurt. He was kind of dinged up and then
he was kind of grabbing his leg a little bit
and then he and you.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Know, you remember Jalen Phillips ND for the Dolphins eat
same thing. Calf strain kept playing and then pomp did
and what happens when you do when you strain your cap.
It's a little tear.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Well, I want you to know, and I want this
to be clear, Brad. I've done talk and I've had
a calf, a sore calf, and I have not popped
my achilles. I've done four hours of talk radio with
a achilles with a calf injury, my calvel, little pain
in there.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
The level of agility that it takes is amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
It's mind blowing, he said, not mind blowing to sit
here and just be a gash bag all night. It's not.
This job is not that easy.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I enjoy it. I know.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Well, thank you all right, well appreciate I have a
safe night there, and thank you for enjoying your office.
At the prison there, there's a Brett checking in. He
used to have this guy called from Illinois, older guy,
years ago and he's retired. I don't know what he
still listens. He's still around. I don't know. I spent
a long time and he said. I remember asking him.
I said, what do you do as I work at
(34:42):
a prison? I said, well, okay, what are you doing?
I'm an adult, I'm an adult babysitters What he said that
was I babysit adults to keep getting in trouble. Yep,
that's what he was saying, keeping eye on the Do
you think you'd like that job, to be a prison guard? Yeah,
that's not high on my list. Uh, you know, I
would hit my baton on all the bars.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Ding ding.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I don't think it's like that though. I don't and
that's only the movies they did it. I don't think
that's I don't think it's like the real life. They
like doors, Yeah, I don't think they do the thing there. Yeah,
that's the way. Oh, I got to get to play
the night in there and then we'll do this Aspisco's
out especially a special late night dedication to Sean the
Hood Guy and all the other Pacer fans. Let's go
back tire rack Play of the night NBA Finals Oklahoma
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City and how did it end?
Speaker 6 (35:31):
Thunder fans feel this moment the uncommon young team proves
to be unstoppable.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
It's over the pickoff center final in Game seven, the Thunder.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
One O three the Pacers ninety one, but dream realize
the Storybooks season is complete. The Finals, Otter Reids the
Oklahoma City Thunder Old there twenty twenty five NBA Champions.
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As we press on, we'll push back the story for
ratings purposes on a flash card fun We'll get to
that coming up in a little bit time. Now for
the who Am I?
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Game?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
And this is where we pretend to be somebody else?
So okay, sees Shade jogis Alexander with three thousand, one
hundred and sixty eight points and the regular season playoffs
combined the ninth most points ever, trailing only Michael Jordan,
who had four seasons with more points, Wilt Chamberlain who
had three, and me who again SGA of the thunder
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three thousand, one hundred and sixty eight points and the
regular season playoffs combined night most ever in pro basketball,
trailing Michael Jordan who had four seasons, greater Wilt Chamberlain
who had three, and me, who am I? That is
the question? The answer will get to it. We will
do it next.
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us out. I mean, I know the company wants you
to watch every second. We don't care if you just
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(38:03):
clicking of him play and then we're good. Now back
to it.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Thank God for the Internet.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
All right, back to it we go, and time now
for the payoff on the who Am I? Game? Oklahoma
City and former Clipper Shay jogas Alexander three hundred sixty
eight points not a household name, three one hundred sixty
eight points the Canadian lad in the regular season playoffs Comby.
That's the ninth most ever in pro bouncy ball history.
(38:30):
Trailing guy named Michael Jordan, who did it four times
where we had more than that, Wilt Chamberlain who had
three times with more than that, and me, who am I?
That is the question. What is the answer? Scrooge is
going with Captain Morgan as his answer. Josh the long
suffering Bears fan in Nebraska says, Lebron James. Who else?
(38:55):
Malaprop guy says, Mike the Leprechaun visiting the Fox Sports
radio studios in less than two weeks? Oh no, is
that right? I didn't get the exact date on that,
but I guess it is coming up in less than
two weeks. Femi, the number one uber each driver in
Minnesota's going with Tom Brady is his answer, Juan Berengere.
Great name from mister nice guy eighties and early nineties baseball.
(39:17):
Frank Lucas from mister Luciano. Not a bad name either.
Hot Rod Hunley, the longtime voice of the Utah Jazz
For me, how'd you get that video of hot Rod
Hunley looking good? Jerry Ceasing from alf the alien O Pioneer,
one of the past of the Celtics. Shane in Des Moines,
says Hayes in Minnesota who did call last week and
(39:40):
then didn't stay on hold and hung up. Bad job
by him. Eachi row Canoe Hernandez from Robbie the Mariner
fan also a fun, fun name. Who else do we have?
Page dan See can't read that on the air? Andy
in Lino Lakes, Minnesota going with Doris Burke, Oh my
go god, you love her. I think we're done watching
(40:04):
Doris in the finals. I think, I mean, I don't
know how we can go on without her. Fortunately, nobody
saw her in the finals, which is good for the NBA.
Nicholas Batoum from Robin, Minnesota. Not a bad name. Clipper legend.
Who else do we have? Dick Snyder of the SuperSonics
in nineteen seventy nine guests by Bay City Tony club set.
(40:24):
Former Fox Sports radio personality Cedric Sabalos guests by James.
That's his answer, Richie Rich from Slim Tim and we
have Shaq Prescott from Natron Who else, Kareem Abdul jabong
Rip from Manuelan Guardina, Curtis Mayfield whom Johnny Q teen
Wolfe guessed by Arturo that's his answer? Else? Do we
(40:49):
have their page? Dan Boso says, as horrible as your
calf injury sounds, I once did an eight hour shift
at a desk job with hemorrhoids. That does sound bad.
A flight one time I had a bladder infection. I
kept every over the bathroom. It was terrible. Do you
have an answer there, Lorena, I was gonna guess fible
Ben Okay, that's I don't know what that is. Back
(41:09):
to okay, I know the correct answer is Rick Barry.
Do you know who Rick Berry is? No chance? Well,
people used to goof on him. He shot his foul
shots underhand, grandma style, but he made it a play
for the Golden State Warriors back in the seventies. Man,
long time, who Rick Barry? Who? Rick Barry? I said,
(41:30):
the name rick Berry,
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