November 5, 2025 • 40 mins
Ben Maller talks about who got the best of the Jets' Sauce Gardner trade to the Colts for two first-round draft picks, how many Jets fans think that they fleeced the Colts, the Colts being hyped as AFC Super Bowl favorites, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here we go. Welcome, it's our number one, our number one,
and ready for some fun. Happy Wednesday to you. It
is the fifth day of November and we start out
with some sauce, some hot sauce in our number one.
Who got the best of the Jets trade of sauce Gardener,
Bye bye sauce as he goes to the Colts for
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a couple of draft picks. We break that down, have
the Malord report card. Also, many Jets fans think that
they fleeced the Colts by getting those two first round
draft picks from Indie for sauce Gardener. Can you explain
the mindset? We don't agree with that, by the way. Also,
the Colts are being hyped as AFC Super Bowl favorites
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by social media after the sauce Gardener trade. Do they
measure up? We'll check that out as well. Right now here,
it is our number one. It's Katon Saucy in here.
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this hour from the trading block. We love trades now.
I ran for years, long time ago. You don't know
about this, but I ran a gossip website in addition
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to the radio stuff, sports, trade rumors and things like that,
and got pretty popular, a cult following, did pretty well.
We had success with it. We loved the rumor. We
didn't love the trade. The rumor was fun. The trade,
eh eh, So we have a lot to dissect. Tuesday afternoon,
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depending where you were, early afternoon on the West Coast,
late afternoon on the East coast, the music stopped the
game of musical cheers. Here the twenty twenty five NFL
Trade Deadline cup put did your team make a deal?
I don't know what your team is a lot to
pick apart, though, and we like that. That's fun to do,
to pick trades apart, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
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We're gonna focus in on the big names because it's
called broad casting, not narrow casting. We believe in broad
cast we have a broad audience, even though we're really
only talking to you. It's amazing. We have a large audience,
but we're really only talking to one person. Shocking. So
we're gonna start with the biggest name trading, the biggest
on the block. A name is so good he goes
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by a nickname, not his birth name. And if you
have not heard, I assume you have possibly not. The
New York Jets decided they were going out of business.
The one part of the team that was any good
was the defense, and they said, you know what, we
can't have a good defense. We don't need to do
good defense, we don't want a good defense, even though
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we hired a defensive minded head coach. Let's get rid
of the guys on the defense that a gun. And
so they said bye bye to Sauce Gardner, get your
ass out of Jersey, Sauce. They sent Sauce Gardner, the
All Pro defensive back, to the Indianapolis Colts for a
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first round draft pick in next year's draft, and then
another one another one in twenty twenty seven. So that's
back to back first round draft picks. Along with a
wide receiver who, if I remember, correctly fumbled the ball
before crossing the goal line in the game against the Rams,
and so he is also trained Donnie Mitchell going to
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the Jets as well in that particular transaction. So the
reporting of it said Sauce Gardner was stuck, stunned to
be traded to the Horseshoes from the Jets, and just
a lot to dissect. So let's stop there. We'll have
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that as the jumping off point as we discussed the
question for the esteem panel, who got the best of
the Jets sauce Gardener trade to the Colts for two
first round picks.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Two.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
All right, so I've got on this one. I've got
claw machine, remote control, and golden horseshoe, and we will
combine all of these things together and we're gonna make
some delicious kettle corn. Gonna be really not good for you.
It's popcorn covered in sugar, but man, does it taste good? Man?
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Is it delicious? So a this one does count as
a stunner from down under. I pay attention to this
crap because I have a daily talk show to do,
and so you look for names, and there's certain names
that are mentioned. Did not have sauce Gardener on my
big board. Not a list for Terry and England. Not
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a list big Bore did not see sauce Gardener being traded.
Sauce Gardener was supposed to be untouchable. He was supposed
to be the guy that you build your defense around,
the cornerstone, shut down defensive back in the prime of
his career, another five or six dominant years ahead, two
all pro knods locked up long term, big money contract,
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long term, big money contract. That's not the guy that
you typically trade. That's a guy that you build around.
You showcase that player that like, oh my god, we
finally got a draft pick.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
The Jets suck in the draft every year. They finally
did something smart. They drafted a player that knows what
he's doing, and they signed him and then they said
bye bye and they traded his ass. It's so great
that it's again, not a guy that you should trade,
that's a guy you build around, and instead they they
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got rid of him. So Malor report card, the Colts
get a B plus, not an A, not an AA
B plus. The Jets get a C minus. I should
have gone D but I went C minus. I was
being generous. I went C minus. I should have gone
lower than that. Bad job by me, But I went
C minus on the Malley report card. And the Colts
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get a B plus Indy on my scorecard. And if
you look at the compu box stats, they absolutely swindled
the Jets. They absolutely swindled the Jets. And I'm hearing
a lot, Oh my god, I can't believe the other way.
And we'll get to that in a minute, that the
Jets won. But don't I don't see it that way.
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If I'm sitting in Indiana right now, And I like
the Colts. I don't know there's many Colt fans out
of Indiana. I'm smiling. I got a cheshire cat smile
from ear to ear right now at this trade, I
do have a known commodity, Sauce Gardener. It's not like
you you're not sure can guy play? I don't know,
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you plug and play him? How good is he? That's
open to debate. He's been surrounded by crap with the Jets,
will be not a great upgrade in talent with the
with the Colts. But the Colts defense is the weak
part of the team has been. But the secondary. You
slide him in to that Indianapolis Colt secondary and immediately
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Sauce Gardener is the number one defensive player for Indianapolis
when he puts on that uniform for the first time.
And so you put the Jets in the food process
there and you hit pure a and there you go.
That's the Jets. They get two lottery tickets. We yeah,
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that's great. Uh. And it is such a such a
debacle with the Jets. I just you just have to laugh.
I mean, is there a dumber fan base and the
Jet fan base with what these guys, the Jets organization does,
and how the Jet fan base always like, oh well
this is so good. Oh my god, I got my
pants down. They got two first round draft picks of
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this trade, and they got another one from the Cowboys.
We'll get to that later. Oh my god. Yeah, okay,
of course, again, the vast majority never pan out. The
vast majority never pan out. Sauce is a legit, top
level defensive back. And say it, he's not playing well
this year and there's this that, and they'll come up
with a million stats whatnot. He's in his prime. He's
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made the All Pro team twice in a row. Not
the Pro Bowl where they play tic tac toe and
grab ass. This is like a legitimate thing, All Pro status,
which means you're top one percent of the NFL. And
so you cannot replace that with a couple of rookies.
And remember these draft picks, you're more likely to get
the next d Milner. If you're Jets fan, you know
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that name. Oh he was good at Alabama. D Milner.
Good luck on that the Jets are able to continue this.
This long term con, the long term con, which is
the Jets where they pull these kind of moves as
far as sauce Gardener use these contracts in the NFL
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unless you got a full note trade fauser in this situation.
But the Jets fooled everyone. They filed absolutely everyone with
that extension that sauce Gardner got, total headfake. It was
tricker ration by Aaron Glenn and the new regime with
the Jets. Aaron Glenn and those guys, they were the
ones pumping the tires on a sauce Gardener that he's
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a cornerstone guy Psich psych Yeah, he's a cornerstone of
the demolition, the demo of the Jets defense there. So
the Colts are the big beneficiary of this. Now they're
getting an absolute dog. I don't need any cats. I
want some dolls. Are They're getting a dog here in
the secondary. So it's a beat plus easy the Jets
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I mentioned a C minus here. They're the guy the
Jets who trade a Rolex watch because they're at the
carnival and they trade their Rolex watch because they get
a couple of tokens to the claw machine. And they're
really excited about the claw machine because there's a really
cute stuffed kangaroo in there and they want to get
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the stuff kangaroo, and they might not get it, and
it's only got two tokens, but it's worth the shot.
They give up the rolex, it's worth the shot to
take two chances of that nice stuffed kangaroo. And so
the Colts win this by a country mile a country mile. Now,
in another part of the trade, we can break this
down eight million ways, page two, page two. Inspite, in
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spite of the Mallor report card declaring Indy the winner here,
all right, we didn't give Indy the win. Many Jet fans,
or at least people masquerading those Jets fans, seem to
think that I'm wrong, that the Jets actually fleeced the
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Colts by getting those two first round draft picks. There's
an absolute fleece job, two first round draft picks from
Indy for a sauce guard. Can you explain the mindset,
the different mindset here that I think Indianapolis clearly won
this trade. But there's a lot of people like, oh, no,
you don't know what you're talking about. They got two
draft picks. Oh my god, two draft picks. Let me
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tell you something. There's a lot of dumb people out
there number one, number two. It's a suckers game. It
is an absolute suckers game. And these people have convinced themselves.
They've convinced themselves that the mystery box, what's in the box,
the mystery box of draft picks, whatever that might become,
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is better than an actual all pro. It's like rich
people that gamble. It makes no sense. Dummy, you're already rich.
What are you doing? Remember Mark Davis, the Raiders owner
who never earned a dollar. He just wrote off the
daddy's money, family money, and yeah he's gamma playing slot
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machines at the airport in Vegas. He won a jackpop Like, dude,
you're already rich, You're you inherited in an NFL team?
What are you doing? And I look at the same
way when you have an established good player and you're like,
I'd rather get something in the box. What's in the
mystery box? It just doesn't make any sense. And it's like,
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what are you doing? You have an actual all pro?
Do you know how hard it is to get that right?
And the math against you? And that's what people don't understand.
They don't It's like the lotteries, you know, dumb people
play the lottery. They played a lot I play a lottery,
so I guess I'm dumb too. But if you played
a lot it's really just a stupid tax. And Sauce
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is an elite player right now. But what if we
make the draft and we pick up two Sauce Gardners.
Oh my god, will get Oh man, come on. The
Jet fans are right now in the process yet again
of being hoodwinked, bamboozled, and hornswoggled. It happens every couple
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of years. Rinse, wash and repeat, Rinse, wash and repeat.
They're being led down the garden path yet again, every
couple of years, like clockwork. I've been doing this job
for a while. I can't tell you how many monologues
we've done about the Jets. The future is right for
the Jets. Oh my god. Just a couple of years ago,
they had pre first round draft picks and they suck
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right now, but they had pre first round trafficks. Oh
my god. Yeah, So every couple of years they get
a bunch of draft picks, they blow that up. They
sell the future, and remember they sell the future, and
people always buy the future being better. It's like some
sleazy politicians end up winning that way because he's just say, well,
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the future is it's unrealistic though, right, it's un realistic.
It's like promising everyone free food. Well, someone has to
pay for the food. Is no such thing as free food.
It's like, well, every draft pick's going to be great. Well,
actually the math on that is not that great, right,
But it's easy to say that stuff. It's easy to
say that stuff. You know, rebuild It is the easiest
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thing to sell in pro sports. It is the easiest
thing to sell. You just wait until next year. We
have a plan. We have a five year plan to
put a bad product out. It's like a restaurant to
serve food with cockroaches for five years, but in year six,
mane is that food gonna be good? Just eat the cockroaches,
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eat them, eat the cockroaches. It's the same green goblin circus.
And so here we are again. By the way, the
malor math I fell down a rabbit hole. He did
the malor math here. So the last twenty years, I
feel like that's a good sample size. That's a generation.
A generation's twenty years. By the time you're born, you
grow up, you get out of school, you have a job,
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you start to settle up. You're settling in your life.
Twenty years is a generation. So the last twenty years,
what percentage of first round draft picks have become all
pro players like Sauce Carden. You want to take your guess,
give me a percentage, all right? The answer is it
forty percent? No, how about thirty percent? You gotta be
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thirty percent, three out of three out of at least
twenty five percent? Right, No, how about sixteen percent? You
have a sixteen percent chance of getting what you just
traded away. That's it. That is a one sixty one
batting average, which by the way, is better than Mookie
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Betts hit in the World Series. I'm just saying, but
a one sixty one batting average. You'd get demoted if
you batted one sixty one unless you're making thirty million
dollars a year and then you be in the lineup
every day. My god? Uh, even top ten pick? You said, well,
not all first round picks are the same. So what
about the top ten? All right? So the top ten
picks hits about two ten, hit about two ten, uh twenty,
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and the Jets fans are drunk on the green kool
aid of the draft and some faceless, nameless player. He's
got a high upside. Okay, it's great. And most of
these guys who are draft in the first round you're
not supposed to say this part out loud. They'll become
backups in the NFL journeymen NFL players. Some of them
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will will sell you insurance. They'll be complete bus Some
of them will kill young women and dogs that burn
up in their cars and go to jail in Nevada.
That happens. Ask the Raiders about that. Yeah, And you'll draft. Occasionally,
you'll draft a great talented player who will turn out
to be great and wonderful, but you had that you draft,
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You've got it right once and a fan favorite with
a cool name and the whole thing and locked up
under contract. Then you said bye bye. And it really
is backwards thinking too, when you think you hired a
defensive coach in Aaron Glenn and if you have a
top defense, you don't have to be great on offense.
You just have to be middle of the road on offense.
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If you have a truly great defense, and that's a
formula to become a playoff team. Now the Jets are like, well, no,
we want to get really bad, bad, bad, bad bad.
We want bo. We want really nasty BO is what
we want. So the Jets are like, all right, let's
grab the remote control and we're gonna hit the pause
button and then we're gonna hit the mute button to
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block out all the noise and no results needed, just
kick the can down the road and go, oh, we
need more time, We need more time. Okay, good, wonderful,
all right, last word here. So on the indie side
of things, the question we go back to the Colts.
The Colts are being hyped up now as AFC Super
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Bowl favorites by many on social media after these Sauce
Gardner trade do you think they measure up? Do you
believe the Colts measure up to that lofty status? Is
now the team to beat, not Kansas City, not Buffalo,
but instead Indianapolis, not any of the other teams in THEFC.
So under the Malard microscope, which is always right, never wrong,
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the Malard microscope, under the Malven microscope. With apologies to
the blue and white horseshoe fan base, let's pump the
brakes now, or in I guess the better phrase would
be coolier Jets, cooler Jets would be the phrase here.
So the sauce is a baller, no question. We like
the player. That is an upgrade. He becomes the face
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of your defensive football team. They believe they got a
shutdown defensive back. Otherwise, you don't trade two first round
back draft picks. However, unfortunately, this is not Madden. You're
not playing Madden here, and you don't just plug in
one guy and all of a sudden become the favorites overnight. Here.
The the biggest problem for the Colts is not the defense.
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Defensen't great. That's not the biggest problem here. It's Daniel freakin' Jones.
That's the problem. That's why I can't say that Indianapolis
is the favorite in the AFC. I can't do it.
You can slap lipstick on that horse, of course, you
can do that there in Indy, and that's what they've
done so far. You had a dud of a game
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against Pittsburgh. Daniel Jones. You can do all that you want,
but you still got to ride. Ultimately, at some point
to get to the super Bowl, You're gonna have to
win a game on the back of Danny Dimes. Danny
Dimes at quarterback, and that dude is not a Thoroughbred.
He turns into a Clydesdale. He's a plotter in big
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moments there. And he's got the nickname now Indiana Jones.
Now that's cool nick. However, he's doing cosplay's an impersonator
of Indiana Jones. And the problem is in crunch time,
the Indiana Jones plays quarterback for the Colts. He doesn't
have the whip, it's not allowed. He doesn't have the
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brain power, doesn't have that, and he's fumbling the relics
all over the place, for better or worse, For better
or worse, though, the Colts have basically staple gunned themselves
to Daniel Jones going forward here for the next couple
of years. They are guaranteed to offer him a good
sized contract. They probably already have the outline of the
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deal done. I would imagine at this point here there
is no other option, There is no Plan B. It
is all about Daniel Jones. He just got the golden
horseshoe stuck right up his tuckis congratulations, right, And because
they have no others. And that's why I gave the
Colts less than the full top grade, because for this
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to work. Daniel Jones has to be good in order
for this all to work here, So regardless, I will
give Indie credit. We have made some jokes of Carly
Jordan or Carli Ersa Carlier Jordan, carl Ersa Gordon, the
daughter of Jim Irsay who passed away, died from the
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drugs and stuff a while back. And he's out there
on the sidelines doing her thing whatever. But this is
the cool move. I like it. This is I can
get on board with this. This is cool right, And
she's trying to make waves, honoring the family tradition, the
Ursay family tradition of doing ridiculous things, crazy things. Jim
Irsay's final act as Colts owner was to hire an
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ESPN broadcaster as coach, which I thought was great because
I'm a broadcaster. I could coach an NFL team. Why
not Jeff Saturday did? I could do it. So it's
a bold move. It's a hey, it's our time type move.
You don't make this move if you don't think you
can get to a Super Bowl's fun. I'm all about
the fun. It's great. We need more teams to act
like the Colts and make the big move who cares
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about the draft picks. Man losers care about draft picks.
And again, so the problem is they have an un
underlying condition. That's the only problem here, and that's why
I gave him a B plus and not an A plus.
Is Daniel Jones, and I know he wasn't part of
the transaction, but again I give him a B plus
because ultimately for this to work, you have to overcome
your underlying pre existing condition here, and it's indigestion. Every
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time Daniel Jones has the ball in his hands, close
and late, close and late, big spot, you know it's
not gonna work out for it. It is the Ben
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a lot of calls and we focused on the sauce
guard and traders, the biggest trade of the day. But
there's a bunch of other moves that have been made.
If you want to talk about any of those, are
the teams that didn't make any moves, like the Patriots
and the Broncos teams like that. Who are good teams
who didn't make any moves? That's fair game as well
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All right back to it we go. We will get
the show rundown out. We'll get to that coming up here.
Uh in a little bit. Elloy from Compton says, Ben,
did you see the blockbuster trade the chiefs made? Oh wait,
they didn't knowing damn well, we need a running back.
They couldn't give up a third round pick for Bryce Hall.
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Breas Hall he met, He said, Bryce, what the f
the Jets should have just traded him. He's a running
back the dime a dozen. It's not like this guy's
the second coming. All right, what do you do? Yeah,
Bob writes in from Parts Unknown, he says, just curious,
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what's the percentage of top five draft picks to become
all pro? I don't have that. I'd have to research that, Bob,
don't have that. I just know first round picks the
last twenty years, overall first round picks, it's sixteen percent.
And then if you want top ten picks, it's twenty
one percent. And it's mostly of the top ten picks
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in the draft. If you look at the numbers, it's
actually not quarterbacks. It's usually players at other positions that
turn out to be all pro all pro players. So
you're looking at what's the having in front of me
somewhere here. It's not typically quarterbacks though, So anyway, we'll
take your calls. Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox
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is the number. King Roy says, you know, who needs
a defensive back to Green Bay Packers. As usual, they
do nothing on trade day and are willing to ride
with the band of misfits in the secondary the rest
of the season. That just tells me that Matt LeFleur
will not be returning hiss head coach next year. Let's
what the Packers always do. That's what was outrageous. The
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Packers traded for Micah Parsons because that's not something they
normally do. It's out of character. Ryan rights and says,
don't forget being drafted and ending up being a drug dealer.
He says Ryan in San Diego. It also happens out Texas.
Brian or the Texas Brain writes in Big Daddy Brain
says cockroaches taste great. You just need some gardener saw
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so yea, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Can I play Devil's advocate on the on the Jets thing?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yes, go ahead. You want to defend the Jets and competence?
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Well, so you mentioned like the percentage that go on
to become all pros? Yes, yes, But couldn't you argue
that you wouldn't necessarily need them to become all pros
in order to make a bigger impact on the team.
They're already losing. They're not doing anything with Sauce Gardener.
They're not good with him, so why not potentially maybe
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they're not going.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
To become all pros.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
But you know all pro is you know there's a
ton of great players that aren't all pros.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yep sauce gardeners in all pro. Yeah. By the way,
the Jets had five first round draft picks from twenty
twenty one to twenty twenty two. People made the same
argument Coop just made, and the Jets currently have one win.
I mean, you're right, I mean, conceivably, and the multiverse,
there is a dimension where the Jets actually draft good
players and the good that's not the world. I mean
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maybe your world that's where the Jets are. But in
my world, I've been doing this job, I've been doing
talk radio way too long, and my entire life, I've
heard the same arguments, Well this time is gonna be
different this time, and it just never is. I just
I just just at the point now is like, isn't
this called insanity where you keep doing the same thing
over it. I just love the fact it's such a
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great hustle. I remember years ago a person that was
actually an executive for a baseball team explained to me
how fans will fall for this every single time. They
never ever question it. It's like in baseball they always
talk about well, we suck right now, but we've got
great players in like a ball.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
We're going to be really good in a couple of years.
I don't know what that's like. Angels never even have
good players. Well, they'll hype somebody up. This's, oh, he's
a couple of years away or whatever. It's always a
couple of years away. There was somebody years ago worked
for the Brewers. We DOINGTUF with the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
We were in Milwaukee, and he's like, every year the
Brewers minor league player the years in a ball and
they never they never advanced past a ball because they
once they get to double A, they can't either they
can't hit or they can't pitch. But again, the Jets
just within the It's not I'm not going back twenty years.
I'm not going back ten years. I'm going back within
the last five years. The Jets had five first round
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draft picks in two years from twenty twenty one to
twenty twenty two. And here we are having the same
conversation like it's groundhog Day, and I'm hearing the same
people say, well, what is that? Maybe the names are
different now the people are making argument, They're like, oh, no, no,
this is gonna be different now. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
we know what we're doing now. Oh man, we're so good,
We are so good. Let's go to Big Daddy who's
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in Memphis. Haven't heard from Big Daddy in a while. Hello,
Big Daddy, Well Cody.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Hello to all my fans and all my precisions. Hey,
did you hear about that?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Lady?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
They'd warn their money on as I wonder if I
can be this did one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
In Yeah, you hear about that. You always hear about
it after. You never hear about it before the fact.
You always hear about it after the fact. You know
what I'm saying, Cowboys, it's just ridiculous and we ain't
going on.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Well, hey, what did you feel about job? You think
he gonna get traded because he wanted to go somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, yeah, he'll he'll get traded eventually. I'm actually I'm
a yap about that later. But yeah, that's a that's
a mess. That's a mess.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
We go to l A or Lebron for the league
so he can go with them and be with his son.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, Hey, I wouldn't I wouldn't be shocked. If he
ends up with that I said yesterday, probably d up
with the Lakers. I mean, you'll go to one of
the big market teams will trade him and he'll if
he complains enough, he'll get traded. And it's like there
was a story that said that he's no one wants
him because of his contract and his attitude. Bull crap.
Everyone gets Kyrie Irving was anti Semitic, all right. Kyrie
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Irving was like flat earth guy. He got traded, like
I mean that he's moved, right, you think about it,
like all the all the baggage Kyrie Irving had and
he got traded. So everyone anything gets traded. John Moran
just likes to play with guns and strippers and that's it. Whatever.
Who doesn't like that. Everyone loves guns and strippers.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Come on, you got a new shoe. Out the shoe
come out?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
It's hilarious. Hey, I'm gonna get me a bagel thurd
And you said the best time to get one when
they opened it up, right, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, yeah. There are a few things in life better
than a freshly made bagel or a donut. But yeah,
the bagel. Go to the bagel shop. They make them overnight.
So yeah, go really, what's a what's a good time?
Because I mean, you know, I'm very picky, you're very picky. Well,
you're up all you're up all night. Right, we'll just
go after your shift when you're done going there in
the morning.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
And you should the count of bagel to get everything bage.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
We every everything. Yeah, you can go everything and go
egg bagel. I mean, it's bess what you want? What
are you What are you looking for from your bagel?
The the everything bagel is usually the way to go,
but you can go here if that's too much see
anything on there? You can go egg bagel. What other bagels?
There's a cinnamon raising cinnamon rais raisin bagel, and I
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like the halapeno cheddar bagels. You don't like spice in
your life? No, that's not a Memphis bagels are so good.
Let's stop talking about bagels. Let's go to the bagel shop.
All right. Well, thank you. I'm glad you're alive, Big Daddy.
I've heard from you in a while, so thank you.
All right, go away. There is our friend, big Daddy.
(33:33):
Blind Scott is on the North end of Boston. Hello
Blind Scott, Hey you know.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I'm spoiled here with the bagels. I had to stop
eating bagels because of glute. Dude, I hit it. I
hit a rat with my cane.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
How do you how do you know? How do you know?
You hit a rat?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
It made this loud, squeaking noise.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
It could have it could have been like a possum
or something like that. You know, it could have it
could have been.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I appreciate it was right there, replaced the man old
covered today, so I think he was displaced. So can
we do a preview with the Queen of Hearts? I
got a response from my partner that after the advice
Lareena gave me, do you want to put me back
on hold and pull me up before the Queen of Hearts?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Okay, all right, well I'll put you on hold. Fine,
go away, I'll put you right on hold. There, amazing,
you can stay on hold. That'll be an hour three
blind Scott, and you be on hold. I'm excited. No
you're not. Yeah, I'm excited to see what she said. No, no,
you're not excited. I love love, No you don't. So hoarders,
how about the hoarders here? The New York Jets by
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trading Sauce Gardner, and they also traded Quinn Williams the
defensive tag. We'll talk more about that next hour. To
the Cowboys. The Jets have become the first team since
at least nineteen ninety five. That's thirty years. To trade
multiple former first team All Pro players in the same
day that a generation and a half. This is ever happen.
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It's taboo. Wow, you would never do it. The Jets
just did it. They just did it. They did it right.
I will look dumb thing to do. It didn't seem
like a smart thing, but there you go. Straight ahead.
It's it's the who am I game? This is where
we pretend to be somebody else. So here we go.
Lots of trades, lots of trades at the deadline in
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the NFL. However, I am the youngest player in NFL
history ever to be traded mid season after making multiple
first team All Pro selections. Some would say this makes
this the worst trade of all time. Again, going back
to the history of the NFL, to the beginning of time. Here,
lots of trades today, but all time, I am the
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youngest player in NFL history to be traded mid season
after making multiple First Team All Pro selections. Who who
am I? That is the question. The answer. We'll get
to it and we will do it next.
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Now back to it, back to it. Time to pay
off the who am I? Game? A lot of trades,
a lot of big trades have happened over the years.
Big trades happened on the trade dead line there on Tuesday. However,
I am still the youngest player in NFL history to
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be traded mid season after making multiple first team All
Pro selections. Who am I?
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Who?
Speaker 1 (37:11):
That would be the question? What would the answer be?
And let's see does anyone know the answer? Hall of
Famer Drew p Weener from Random Ryan, Bobby Humphrey he
misspelled that from nurse Jockey, Alex Karras god Son Webster
from Rob the goat Man, Benny the Blocker from Fergdog,
Joseph Stalin guess by Femi the number one Uber, each
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driver there in Minnesota, Master Splinter from Alf the Alien
Opiner King Rory says the late vice president there, Dick Cheney,
Johnny Utah from Just Josh, Andre Agasy guests by Shane
in Des Moines, Wally Cleaver from my Leen Lean you're
dating yourself? Wally Cleaver there? Who else? We have Eloy
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from Compton going with Coop's favorite Bronco Jake Butt is
his answer, big fan of mister. But who else? We
have Jed? Who fled? What happened to Jed? He didn't
called in a while? That's from Robbie the maybe's in
jail from Robbie. The Mariner fan Andy and Lionel Lakes
in Lionel Lakes, Minnesota says Pikachuu is the answer. Areeke
says you are meat Sauce Gardner that that is the
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correct answer. Trucker Joe is going with clipboard Jesus Charlie Whitehurst,
kool Aid McKinstry guessed by Doug from a Korea, South
Korea obviously? Who else? Terry in England says, is it
Kyler Murray? He looks like a child? Yeah, Terry? Can
you let all those people know that send me the
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nasty emails and posted the nasty stuff on social media
and called the radio show and called me an a
hole and all that? When I ripped Kyler Murray? Can
you can you have them check in see? I want
to make sure they're doing okay. I want to make
sure they're doing okay. All right, enough of that. Look,
Lorena is not baby Yoda Guessed by spocksweed in Oregon
or Maxine Waters the Nature Boy. What's the answer. It's
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not yes, Leonardo DiCaprio, Is it Leo DiCaprio. No, It's
also not Curly Lambo gas by Donkey Sausits. The correct
answer would be none other than Sauce Gardner, who was
just traded on Tuesday. That is the single, single dumbest
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trade in NFL history. It never happened before. You don't
trade a two time All Pro at age twenty five
unless you're dumb the dumb, dumb, dumb the Jets. Then
you do it because you're dumbed to dum dumb dumb
the Jets, and then you do it. It had never
happened before at that age. This is the single dumbest
trade in NFL history. And there are people defending it
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because they're dumb people.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
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and ready for some fun. Happy Wednesday to you. It
is the fifth day of November and we start out
with some sauce, some hot sauce in our number one.
Who got the best of the Jets trade of sauce Gardener,
Bye bye sauce as he goes to the Colts for
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a couple of draft picks. We break that down, have
the Malord report card. Also, many Jets fans think that
they fleeced the Colts by getting those two first round
draft picks from Indie for sauce Gardener. Can you explain
the mindset? We don't agree with that, by the way. Also,
the Colts are being hyped as AFC Super Bowl favorites
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by social media after the sauce Gardener trade. Do they
measure up? We'll check that out as well. Right now here,
it is our number one. It's Katon Saucy in here.
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this hour from the trading block. We love trades now.
I ran for years, long time ago. You don't know
about this, but I ran a gossip website in addition
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to the radio stuff, sports, trade rumors and things like that,
and got pretty popular, a cult following, did pretty well.
We had success with it. We loved the rumor. We
didn't love the trade. The rumor was fun. The trade,
eh eh, So we have a lot to dissect. Tuesday afternoon,
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depending where you were, early afternoon on the West Coast,
late afternoon on the East coast, the music stopped the
game of musical cheers. Here the twenty twenty five NFL
Trade Deadline cup put did your team make a deal?
I don't know what your team is a lot to
pick apart, though, and we like that. That's fun to do,
to pick trades apart, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
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We're gonna focus in on the big names because it's
called broad casting, not narrow casting. We believe in broad
cast we have a broad audience, even though we're really
only talking to you. It's amazing. We have a large audience,
but we're really only talking to one person. Shocking. So
we're gonna start with the biggest name trading, the biggest
on the block. A name is so good he goes
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by a nickname, not his birth name. And if you
have not heard, I assume you have possibly not. The
New York Jets decided they were going out of business.
The one part of the team that was any good
was the defense, and they said, you know what, we
can't have a good defense. We don't need to do
good defense, we don't want a good defense, even though
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we hired a defensive minded head coach. Let's get rid
of the guys on the defense that a gun. And
so they said bye bye to Sauce Gardner, get your
ass out of Jersey, Sauce. They sent Sauce Gardner, the
All Pro defensive back, to the Indianapolis Colts for a
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first round draft pick in next year's draft, and then
another one another one in twenty twenty seven. So that's
back to back first round draft picks. Along with a
wide receiver who, if I remember, correctly fumbled the ball
before crossing the goal line in the game against the Rams,
and so he is also trained Donnie Mitchell going to
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the Jets as well in that particular transaction. So the
reporting of it said Sauce Gardner was stuck, stunned to
be traded to the Horseshoes from the Jets, and just
a lot to dissect. So let's stop there. We'll have
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that as the jumping off point as we discussed the
question for the esteem panel, who got the best of
the Jets sauce Gardener trade to the Colts for two
first round picks.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Two.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
All right, so I've got on this one. I've got
claw machine, remote control, and golden horseshoe, and we will
combine all of these things together and we're gonna make
some delicious kettle corn. Gonna be really not good for you.
It's popcorn covered in sugar, but man, does it taste good? Man?
(05:47):
Is it delicious? So a this one does count as
a stunner from down under. I pay attention to this
crap because I have a daily talk show to do,
and so you look for names, and there's certain names
that are mentioned. Did not have sauce Gardener on my
big board. Not a list for Terry and England. Not
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a list big Bore did not see sauce Gardener being traded.
Sauce Gardener was supposed to be untouchable. He was supposed
to be the guy that you build your defense around,
the cornerstone, shut down defensive back in the prime of
his career, another five or six dominant years ahead, two
all pro knods locked up long term, big money contract,
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long term, big money contract. That's not the guy that
you typically trade. That's a guy that you build around.
You showcase that player that like, oh my god, we
finally got a draft pick.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
The Jets suck in the draft every year. They finally
did something smart. They drafted a player that knows what
he's doing, and they signed him and then they said
bye bye and they traded his ass. It's so great
that it's again, not a guy that you should trade,
that's a guy you build around, and instead they they
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got rid of him. So Malor report card, the Colts
get a B plus, not an A, not an AA
B plus. The Jets get a C minus. I should
have gone D but I went C minus. I was
being generous. I went C minus. I should have gone
lower than that. Bad job by me, But I went
C minus on the Malley report card. And the Colts
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get a B plus Indy on my scorecard. And if
you look at the compu box stats, they absolutely swindled
the Jets. They absolutely swindled the Jets. And I'm hearing
a lot, Oh my god, I can't believe the other way.
And we'll get to that in a minute, that the
Jets won. But don't I don't see it that way.
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If I'm sitting in Indiana right now, And I like
the Colts. I don't know there's many Colt fans out
of Indiana. I'm smiling. I got a cheshire cat smile
from ear to ear right now at this trade, I
do have a known commodity, Sauce Gardener. It's not like
you you're not sure can guy play? I don't know,
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you plug and play him? How good is he? That's
open to debate. He's been surrounded by crap with the Jets,
will be not a great upgrade in talent with the
with the Colts. But the Colts defense is the weak
part of the team has been. But the secondary. You
slide him in to that Indianapolis Colt secondary and immediately
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Sauce Gardener is the number one defensive player for Indianapolis
when he puts on that uniform for the first time.
And so you put the Jets in the food process
there and you hit pure a and there you go.
That's the Jets. They get two lottery tickets. We yeah,
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that's great. Uh. And it is such a such a
debacle with the Jets. I just you just have to laugh.
I mean, is there a dumber fan base and the
Jet fan base with what these guys, the Jets organization does,
and how the Jet fan base always like, oh well
this is so good. Oh my god, I got my
pants down. They got two first round draft picks of
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this trade, and they got another one from the Cowboys.
We'll get to that later. Oh my god. Yeah, okay,
of course, again, the vast majority never pan out. The
vast majority never pan out. Sauce is a legit, top
level defensive back. And say it, he's not playing well
this year and there's this that, and they'll come up
with a million stats whatnot. He's in his prime. He's
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made the All Pro team twice in a row. Not
the Pro Bowl where they play tic tac toe and
grab ass. This is like a legitimate thing, All Pro status,
which means you're top one percent of the NFL. And
so you cannot replace that with a couple of rookies.
And remember these draft picks, you're more likely to get
the next d Milner. If you're Jets fan, you know
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that name. Oh he was good at Alabama. D Milner.
Good luck on that the Jets are able to continue this.
This long term con, the long term con, which is
the Jets where they pull these kind of moves as
far as sauce Gardener use these contracts in the NFL
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unless you got a full note trade fauser in this situation.
But the Jets fooled everyone. They filed absolutely everyone with
that extension that sauce Gardner got, total headfake. It was
tricker ration by Aaron Glenn and the new regime with
the Jets. Aaron Glenn and those guys, they were the
ones pumping the tires on a sauce Gardener that he's
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a cornerstone guy Psich psych Yeah, he's a cornerstone of
the demolition, the demo of the Jets defense there. So
the Colts are the big beneficiary of this. Now they're
getting an absolute dog. I don't need any cats. I
want some dolls. Are They're getting a dog here in
the secondary. So it's a beat plus easy the Jets
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I mentioned a C minus here. They're the guy the
Jets who trade a Rolex watch because they're at the
carnival and they trade their Rolex watch because they get
a couple of tokens to the claw machine. And they're
really excited about the claw machine because there's a really
cute stuffed kangaroo in there and they want to get
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the stuff kangaroo, and they might not get it, and
it's only got two tokens, but it's worth the shot.
They give up the rolex, it's worth the shot to
take two chances of that nice stuffed kangaroo. And so
the Colts win this by a country mile a country mile. Now,
in another part of the trade, we can break this
down eight million ways, page two, page two. Inspite, in
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spite of the Mallor report card declaring Indy the winner here,
all right, we didn't give Indy the win. Many Jet fans,
or at least people masquerading those Jets fans, seem to
think that I'm wrong, that the Jets actually fleeced the
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Colts by getting those two first round draft picks. There's
an absolute fleece job, two first round draft picks from
Indy for a sauce guard. Can you explain the mindset,
the different mindset here that I think Indianapolis clearly won
this trade. But there's a lot of people like, oh, no,
you don't know what you're talking about. They got two
draft picks. Oh my god, two draft picks. Let me
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tell you something. There's a lot of dumb people out
there number one, number two. It's a suckers game. It
is an absolute suckers game. And these people have convinced themselves.
They've convinced themselves that the mystery box, what's in the box,
the mystery box of draft picks, whatever that might become,
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is better than an actual all pro. It's like rich
people that gamble. It makes no sense. Dummy, you're already rich.
What are you doing? Remember Mark Davis, the Raiders owner
who never earned a dollar. He just wrote off the
daddy's money, family money, and yeah he's gamma playing slot
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machines at the airport in Vegas. He won a jackpop Like, dude,
you're already rich, You're you inherited in an NFL team?
What are you doing? And I look at the same
way when you have an established good player and you're like,
I'd rather get something in the box. What's in the
mystery box? It just doesn't make any sense. And it's like,
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what are you doing? You have an actual all pro?
Do you know how hard it is to get that right?
And the math against you? And that's what people don't understand.
They don't It's like the lotteries, you know, dumb people
play the lottery. They played a lot I play a lottery,
so I guess I'm dumb too. But if you played
a lot it's really just a stupid tax. And Sauce
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is an elite player right now. But what if we
make the draft and we pick up two Sauce Gardners.
Oh my god, will get Oh man, come on. The
Jet fans are right now in the process yet again
of being hoodwinked, bamboozled, and hornswoggled. It happens every couple
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of years. Rinse, wash and repeat, Rinse, wash and repeat.
They're being led down the garden path yet again, every
couple of years, like clockwork. I've been doing this job
for a while. I can't tell you how many monologues
we've done about the Jets. The future is right for
the Jets. Oh my god. Just a couple of years ago,
they had pre first round draft picks and they suck
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right now, but they had pre first round trafficks. Oh
my god. Yeah, So every couple of years they get
a bunch of draft picks, they blow that up. They
sell the future, and remember they sell the future, and
people always buy the future being better. It's like some
sleazy politicians end up winning that way because he's just say, well,
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the future is it's unrealistic though, right, it's un realistic.
It's like promising everyone free food. Well, someone has to
pay for the food. Is no such thing as free food.
It's like, well, every draft pick's going to be great. Well,
actually the math on that is not that great, right,
But it's easy to say that stuff. It's easy to
say that stuff. You know, rebuild It is the easiest
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thing to sell in pro sports. It is the easiest
thing to sell. You just wait until next year. We
have a plan. We have a five year plan to
put a bad product out. It's like a restaurant to
serve food with cockroaches for five years, but in year six,
mane is that food gonna be good? Just eat the cockroaches,
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eat them, eat the cockroaches. It's the same green goblin circus.
And so here we are again. By the way, the
malor math I fell down a rabbit hole. He did
the malor math here. So the last twenty years, I
feel like that's a good sample size. That's a generation.
A generation's twenty years. By the time you're born, you
grow up, you get out of school, you have a job,
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you start to settle up. You're settling in your life.
Twenty years is a generation. So the last twenty years,
what percentage of first round draft picks have become all
pro players like Sauce Carden. You want to take your guess,
give me a percentage, all right? The answer is it
forty percent? No, how about thirty percent? You gotta be
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thirty percent, three out of three out of at least
twenty five percent? Right, No, how about sixteen percent? You
have a sixteen percent chance of getting what you just
traded away. That's it. That is a one sixty one
batting average, which by the way, is better than Mookie
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Betts hit in the World Series. I'm just saying, but
a one sixty one batting average. You'd get demoted if
you batted one sixty one unless you're making thirty million
dollars a year and then you be in the lineup
every day. My god? Uh, even top ten pick? You said, well,
not all first round picks are the same. So what
about the top ten? All right? So the top ten
picks hits about two ten, hit about two ten, uh twenty,
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and the Jets fans are drunk on the green kool
aid of the draft and some faceless, nameless player. He's
got a high upside. Okay, it's great. And most of
these guys who are draft in the first round you're
not supposed to say this part out loud. They'll become
backups in the NFL journeymen NFL players. Some of them
(17:31):
will will sell you insurance. They'll be complete bus Some
of them will kill young women and dogs that burn
up in their cars and go to jail in Nevada.
That happens. Ask the Raiders about that. Yeah, And you'll draft. Occasionally,
you'll draft a great talented player who will turn out
to be great and wonderful, but you had that you draft,
(17:52):
You've got it right once and a fan favorite with
a cool name and the whole thing and locked up
under contract. Then you said bye bye. And it really
is backwards thinking too, when you think you hired a
defensive coach in Aaron Glenn and if you have a
top defense, you don't have to be great on offense.
You just have to be middle of the road on offense.
(18:14):
If you have a truly great defense, and that's a
formula to become a playoff team. Now the Jets are like, well, no,
we want to get really bad, bad, bad, bad bad.
We want bo. We want really nasty BO is what
we want. So the Jets are like, all right, let's
grab the remote control and we're gonna hit the pause
button and then we're gonna hit the mute button to
(18:34):
block out all the noise and no results needed, just
kick the can down the road and go, oh, we
need more time, We need more time. Okay, good, wonderful,
all right, last word here. So on the indie side
of things, the question we go back to the Colts.
The Colts are being hyped up now as AFC Super
(18:56):
Bowl favorites by many on social media after these Sauce
Gardner trade do you think they measure up? Do you
believe the Colts measure up to that lofty status? Is
now the team to beat, not Kansas City, not Buffalo,
but instead Indianapolis, not any of the other teams in THEFC.
So under the Malard microscope, which is always right, never wrong,
(19:20):
the Malard microscope, under the Malven microscope. With apologies to
the blue and white horseshoe fan base, let's pump the
brakes now, or in I guess the better phrase would
be coolier Jets, cooler Jets would be the phrase here.
So the sauce is a baller, no question. We like
the player. That is an upgrade. He becomes the face
(19:41):
of your defensive football team. They believe they got a
shutdown defensive back. Otherwise, you don't trade two first round
back draft picks. However, unfortunately, this is not Madden. You're
not playing Madden here, and you don't just plug in
one guy and all of a sudden become the favorites overnight. Here.
The the biggest problem for the Colts is not the defense.
(20:04):
Defensen't great. That's not the biggest problem here. It's Daniel freakin' Jones.
That's the problem. That's why I can't say that Indianapolis
is the favorite in the AFC. I can't do it.
You can slap lipstick on that horse, of course, you
can do that there in Indy, and that's what they've
done so far. You had a dud of a game
(20:24):
against Pittsburgh. Daniel Jones. You can do all that you want,
but you still got to ride. Ultimately, at some point
to get to the super Bowl, You're gonna have to
win a game on the back of Danny Dimes. Danny
Dimes at quarterback, and that dude is not a Thoroughbred.
He turns into a Clydesdale. He's a plotter in big
(20:45):
moments there. And he's got the nickname now Indiana Jones.
Now that's cool nick. However, he's doing cosplay's an impersonator
of Indiana Jones. And the problem is in crunch time,
the Indiana Jones plays quarterback for the Colts. He doesn't
have the whip, it's not allowed. He doesn't have the
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brain power, doesn't have that, and he's fumbling the relics
all over the place, for better or worse, For better
or worse, though, the Colts have basically staple gunned themselves
to Daniel Jones going forward here for the next couple
of years. They are guaranteed to offer him a good
sized contract. They probably already have the outline of the
(21:26):
deal done. I would imagine at this point here there
is no other option, There is no Plan B. It
is all about Daniel Jones. He just got the golden
horseshoe stuck right up his tuckis congratulations, right, And because
they have no others. And that's why I gave the
Colts less than the full top grade, because for this
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to work. Daniel Jones has to be good in order
for this all to work here, So regardless, I will
give Indie credit. We have made some jokes of Carly
Jordan or Carli Ersa Carlier Jordan, carl Ersa Gordon, the
daughter of Jim Irsay who passed away, died from the
(22:10):
drugs and stuff a while back. And he's out there
on the sidelines doing her thing whatever. But this is
the cool move. I like it. This is I can
get on board with this. This is cool right, And
she's trying to make waves, honoring the family tradition, the
Ursay family tradition of doing ridiculous things, crazy things. Jim
Irsay's final act as Colts owner was to hire an
(22:32):
ESPN broadcaster as coach, which I thought was great because
I'm a broadcaster. I could coach an NFL team. Why
not Jeff Saturday did? I could do it. So it's
a bold move. It's a hey, it's our time type move.
You don't make this move if you don't think you
can get to a Super Bowl's fun. I'm all about
the fun. It's great. We need more teams to act
like the Colts and make the big move who cares
(22:54):
about the draft picks. Man losers care about draft picks.
And again, so the problem is they have an un
underlying condition. That's the only problem here, and that's why
I gave him a B plus and not an A plus.
Is Daniel Jones, and I know he wasn't part of
the transaction, but again I give him a B plus
because ultimately for this to work, you have to overcome
your underlying pre existing condition here, and it's indigestion. Every
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time Daniel Jones has the ball in his hands, close
and late, close and late, big spot, you know it's
not gonna work out for it. It is the Ben
Mahlor Show if you'd like to be part of this
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(23:40):
a lot of calls and we focused on the sauce
guard and traders, the biggest trade of the day. But
there's a bunch of other moves that have been made.
If you want to talk about any of those, are
the teams that didn't make any moves, like the Patriots
and the Broncos teams like that. Who are good teams
who didn't make any moves? That's fair game as well
eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox also on x
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all about the hoarders. We'll get to that. We'll do
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Speaker 1 (25:48):
All right back to it we go. We will get
the show rundown out. We'll get to that coming up here.
Uh in a little bit. Elloy from Compton says, Ben,
did you see the blockbuster trade the chiefs made? Oh wait,
they didn't knowing damn well, we need a running back.
They couldn't give up a third round pick for Bryce Hall.
(26:09):
Breas Hall he met, He said, Bryce, what the f
the Jets should have just traded him. He's a running
back the dime a dozen. It's not like this guy's
the second coming. All right, what do you do? Yeah,
Bob writes in from Parts Unknown, he says, just curious,
(26:30):
what's the percentage of top five draft picks to become
all pro? I don't have that. I'd have to research that, Bob,
don't have that. I just know first round picks the
last twenty years, overall first round picks, it's sixteen percent.
And then if you want top ten picks, it's twenty
one percent. And it's mostly of the top ten picks
(26:53):
in the draft. If you look at the numbers, it's
actually not quarterbacks. It's usually players at other positions that
turn out to be all pro all pro players. So
you're looking at what's the having in front of me
somewhere here. It's not typically quarterbacks though, So anyway, we'll
take your calls. Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox
(27:17):
is the number. King Roy says, you know, who needs
a defensive back to Green Bay Packers. As usual, they
do nothing on trade day and are willing to ride
with the band of misfits in the secondary the rest
of the season. That just tells me that Matt LeFleur
will not be returning hiss head coach next year. Let's
what the Packers always do. That's what was outrageous. The
(27:37):
Packers traded for Micah Parsons because that's not something they
normally do. It's out of character. Ryan rights and says,
don't forget being drafted and ending up being a drug dealer.
He says Ryan in San Diego. It also happens out Texas.
Brian or the Texas Brain writes in Big Daddy Brain
says cockroaches taste great. You just need some gardener saw
(28:00):
so yea, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Can I play Devil's advocate on the on the Jets thing?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yes, go ahead. You want to defend the Jets and competence?
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Well, so you mentioned like the percentage that go on
to become all pros? Yes, yes, But couldn't you argue
that you wouldn't necessarily need them to become all pros
in order to make a bigger impact on the team.
They're already losing. They're not doing anything with Sauce Gardener.
They're not good with him, so why not potentially maybe
(28:34):
they're not going.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
To become all pros.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
But you know all pro is you know there's a
ton of great players that aren't all pros.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yep sauce gardeners in all pro. Yeah. By the way,
the Jets had five first round draft picks from twenty
twenty one to twenty twenty two. People made the same
argument Coop just made, and the Jets currently have one win.
I mean, you're right, I mean, conceivably, and the multiverse,
there is a dimension where the Jets actually draft good
players and the good that's not the world. I mean
(29:01):
maybe your world that's where the Jets are. But in
my world, I've been doing this job, I've been doing
talk radio way too long, and my entire life, I've
heard the same arguments, Well this time is gonna be
different this time, and it just never is. I just
I just just at the point now is like, isn't
this called insanity where you keep doing the same thing
over it. I just love the fact it's such a
(29:22):
great hustle. I remember years ago a person that was
actually an executive for a baseball team explained to me
how fans will fall for this every single time. They
never ever question it. It's like in baseball they always
talk about well, we suck right now, but we've got
great players in like a ball.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
We're going to be really good in a couple of years.
I don't know what that's like. Angels never even have
good players. Well, they'll hype somebody up. This's, oh, he's
a couple of years away or whatever. It's always a
couple of years away. There was somebody years ago worked
for the Brewers. We DOINGTUF with the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
We were in Milwaukee, and he's like, every year the
Brewers minor league player the years in a ball and
they never they never advanced past a ball because they
once they get to double A, they can't either they
can't hit or they can't pitch. But again, the Jets
just within the It's not I'm not going back twenty years.
I'm not going back ten years. I'm going back within
the last five years. The Jets had five first round
(30:18):
draft picks in two years from twenty twenty one to
twenty twenty two. And here we are having the same
conversation like it's groundhog Day, and I'm hearing the same
people say, well, what is that? Maybe the names are
different now the people are making argument, They're like, oh, no, no,
this is gonna be different now. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
we know what we're doing now. Oh man, we're so good,
We are so good. Let's go to Big Daddy who's
(30:41):
in Memphis. Haven't heard from Big Daddy in a while. Hello,
Big Daddy, Well Cody.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Hello to all my fans and all my precisions. Hey,
did you hear about that?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Lady?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
They'd warn their money on as I wonder if I
can be this did one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
In Yeah, you hear about that. You always hear about
it after. You never hear about it before the fact.
You always hear about it after the fact. You know
what I'm saying, Cowboys, it's just ridiculous and we ain't
going on.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Well, hey, what did you feel about job? You think
he gonna get traded because he wanted to go somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, yeah, he'll he'll get traded eventually. I'm actually I'm
a yap about that later. But yeah, that's a that's
a mess. That's a mess.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
We go to l A or Lebron for the league
so he can go with them and be with his son.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, Hey, I wouldn't I wouldn't be shocked. If he
ends up with that I said yesterday, probably d up
with the Lakers. I mean, you'll go to one of
the big market teams will trade him and he'll if
he complains enough, he'll get traded. And it's like there
was a story that said that he's no one wants
him because of his contract and his attitude. Bull crap.
Everyone gets Kyrie Irving was anti Semitic, all right. Kyrie
(31:54):
Irving was like flat earth guy. He got traded, like
I mean that he's moved, right, you think about it,
like all the all the baggage Kyrie Irving had and
he got traded. So everyone anything gets traded. John Moran
just likes to play with guns and strippers and that's it. Whatever.
Who doesn't like that. Everyone loves guns and strippers.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Come on, you got a new shoe. Out the shoe
come out?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
It's hilarious. Hey, I'm gonna get me a bagel thurd
And you said the best time to get one when
they opened it up, right, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, yeah. There are a few things in life better
than a freshly made bagel or a donut. But yeah,
the bagel. Go to the bagel shop. They make them overnight.
So yeah, go really, what's a what's a good time?
Because I mean, you know, I'm very picky, you're very picky. Well,
you're up all you're up all night. Right, we'll just
go after your shift when you're done going there in
the morning.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
And you should the count of bagel to get everything bage.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
We every everything. Yeah, you can go everything and go
egg bagel. I mean, it's bess what you want? What
are you What are you looking for from your bagel?
The the everything bagel is usually the way to go,
but you can go here if that's too much see
anything on there? You can go egg bagel. What other bagels?
There's a cinnamon raising cinnamon rais raisin bagel, and I
(33:10):
like the halapeno cheddar bagels. You don't like spice in
your life? No, that's not a Memphis bagels are so good.
Let's stop talking about bagels. Let's go to the bagel shop.
All right. Well, thank you. I'm glad you're alive, Big Daddy.
I've heard from you in a while, so thank you.
All right, go away. There is our friend, big Daddy.
(33:33):
Blind Scott is on the North end of Boston. Hello
Blind Scott, Hey you know.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I'm spoiled here with the bagels. I had to stop
eating bagels because of glute. Dude, I hit it. I
hit a rat with my cane.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
How do you how do you know? How do you know?
You hit a rat?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
It made this loud, squeaking noise.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
It could have it could have been like a possum
or something like that. You know, it could have it
could have been.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I appreciate it was right there, replaced the man old
covered today, so I think he was displaced. So can
we do a preview with the Queen of Hearts? I
got a response from my partner that after the advice
Lareena gave me, do you want to put me back
on hold and pull me up before the Queen of Hearts?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Okay, all right, well I'll put you on hold. Fine,
go away, I'll put you right on hold. There, amazing,
you can stay on hold. That'll be an hour three
blind Scott, and you be on hold. I'm excited. No
you're not. Yeah, I'm excited to see what she said. No, no,
you're not excited. I love love, No you don't. So hoarders,
how about the hoarders here? The New York Jets by
(34:35):
trading Sauce Gardner, and they also traded Quinn Williams the
defensive tag. We'll talk more about that next hour. To
the Cowboys. The Jets have become the first team since
at least nineteen ninety five. That's thirty years. To trade
multiple former first team All Pro players in the same
day that a generation and a half. This is ever happen.
(35:00):
It's taboo. Wow, you would never do it. The Jets
just did it. They just did it. They did it right.
I will look dumb thing to do. It didn't seem
like a smart thing, but there you go. Straight ahead.
It's it's the who am I game? This is where
we pretend to be somebody else. So here we go.
Lots of trades, lots of trades at the deadline in
(35:21):
the NFL. However, I am the youngest player in NFL
history ever to be traded mid season after making multiple
first team All Pro selections. Some would say this makes
this the worst trade of all time. Again, going back
to the history of the NFL, to the beginning of time. Here,
lots of trades today, but all time, I am the
(35:43):
youngest player in NFL history to be traded mid season
after making multiple First Team All Pro selections. Who who
am I? That is the question. The answer. We'll get
to it and we will do it next.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
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We have a YouTube channel. The company would like me
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(36:21):
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whether you agree or disagree, and all that good stuff.
Now back to it, back to it. Time to pay
off the who am I? Game? A lot of trades,
a lot of big trades have happened over the years.
Big trades happened on the trade dead line there on Tuesday. However,
I am still the youngest player in NFL history to
(37:05):
be traded mid season after making multiple first team All
Pro selections. Who am I?
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Who?
Speaker 1 (37:11):
That would be the question? What would the answer be?
And let's see does anyone know the answer? Hall of
Famer Drew p Weener from Random Ryan, Bobby Humphrey he
misspelled that from nurse Jockey, Alex Karras god Son Webster
from Rob the goat Man, Benny the Blocker from Fergdog,
Joseph Stalin guess by Femi the number one Uber, each
(37:34):
driver there in Minnesota, Master Splinter from Alf the Alien
Opiner King Rory says the late vice president there, Dick Cheney,
Johnny Utah from Just Josh, Andre Agasy guests by Shane
in Des Moines, Wally Cleaver from my Leen Lean you're
dating yourself? Wally Cleaver there? Who else? We have Eloy
(37:55):
from Compton going with Coop's favorite Bronco Jake Butt is
his answer, big fan of mister. But who else? We
have Jed? Who fled? What happened to Jed? He didn't
called in a while? That's from Robbie the maybe's in
jail from Robbie. The Mariner fan Andy and Lionel Lakes
in Lionel Lakes, Minnesota says Pikachuu is the answer. Areeke
says you are meat Sauce Gardner that that is the
(38:17):
correct answer. Trucker Joe is going with clipboard Jesus Charlie Whitehurst,
kool Aid McKinstry guessed by Doug from a Korea, South
Korea obviously? Who else? Terry in England says, is it
Kyler Murray? He looks like a child? Yeah, Terry? Can
you let all those people know that send me the
(38:39):
nasty emails and posted the nasty stuff on social media
and called the radio show and called me an a
hole and all that? When I ripped Kyler Murray? Can
you can you have them check in see? I want
to make sure they're doing okay. I want to make
sure they're doing okay. All right, enough of that. Look,
Lorena is not baby Yoda Guessed by spocksweed in Oregon
or Maxine Waters the Nature Boy. What's the answer. It's
(38:59):
not yes, Leonardo DiCaprio, Is it Leo DiCaprio. No, It's
also not Curly Lambo gas by Donkey Sausits. The correct
answer would be none other than Sauce Gardner, who was
just traded on Tuesday. That is the single, single dumbest
(39:20):
trade in NFL history. It never happened before. You don't
trade a two time All Pro at age twenty five
unless you're dumb the dumb, dumb, dumb the Jets. Then
you do it because you're dumbed to dum dumb dumb
the Jets, and then you do it. It had never
happened before at that age. This is the single dumbest
trade in NFL history. And there are people defending it
(39:41):
because they're dumb people.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
All right.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
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